Nintendo 64

[craggy kettle]

oh wait

what is the size of your bios?

I had saved mine wrong somehow the first go, but the NTSC should be 1,984 bytes

oh nvm, I see you have other stuff working, just not Zelda

[versed cairn]

GameCube version works

[spark skiff]

I was having the same problem and i loaded up the core again and "reset settings" and loaded gamecube version again and it worked

[craggy kettle]

How long have game saves been working? I thought we were still at the "Better keep the game running until your done" stage!

[quaint rune]

Since yesterday

[chilly ember]

SRAM just started working

[quaint rune]

Yeah for sram since yesterday.

[chilly ember]

Last two save types that need to be implented still are flash and controller Pak

[craggy kettle]

nice!

[quaint rune]

woo woooooo

[dusty tusk]

I assume controller pak will receive a similar interface to ps1 memory cards

Transfer pak is going to be wild to implement

[languid dune]

Nintendo sure liked their paks.

[hearty oar]

Keen to try SNAC with transfer pak, I’ve got a lot of carts…

[mortal apex]

Apparently that game disables controls when there's a controller in port 4 for some reason

[stone pilot]

I forgot to grab unstable Main

[rose elbow]

https://youtu.be/mznc8dhijTo

[iron trail]

Woah thanks for the ss

[rose elbow]

this vid talks about how Shadows speed is tied to performance and runs too fast on PC compared to 64 (among other things, fun vid to look at in context of how the test build is looking on mister atm)

[weary beacon]

You have to disable "data cache force WB" because it lowers performances (off by default)

[eternal ravine]

Wow, so Bad Fur Day is operational? Best game on the console

[deep ore]

mm nso test build link?

[rose elbow]

#test-builds message

this one i think ?

[verbal cedar]

I’m here to humbly announce I will play test paper Mario the moment the TLB is done. I know I know, such sacrifices are far too noble but I must do what I can for the greater good

[trim seal]

No, requires TLB.

[rose elbow]

thank you for your service Light

[ripe cargo]

anyone know what I64 files are and if they are needed for anything?

[iron dove]

they seem to be some tiny additional file for lodgenet ROMs
"The i64 roms include the last two bytes of the encryption checksum as well as a custom user-supplied name for the rom."

[ripe cargo]

are they needed?

[iron dove]

I dont beleive the core uses them at all no, not sure if anything else does

[ripe cargo]

ok thank you

[iron dove]

They're for versions of games dumped from the Lodgenet (hotel game pay-to-play system), most folks would just play the normal releases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Gateway_System

[manic basin]

Thanks! I'm terrible at it!

[orchid nimbus]

update_N64.sh script has been updated to pull in the newest N64-Database.txt

https://vampier.net/N64/update_N64.sh

[trim seal]

Love your work, as always.

[languid dune]

So you're saying you want a SNAC pak?

[deep ore]

mmm no access, what have i done

[orchid nimbus]

id:customize add yourself

[deep ore]

ahh i see, first page option needs “all” selected before all channels show up in “all channels” thanks dudes

[orchid nimbus]

np

[rose elbow]

https://youtu.be/Zy71eUeSxtQ

this is no stretch of the imagination a scientific thorough or even remotely synced up comparision, but i spent some time today playing Shadows of the empire on the current test build and then on original hardware just to compare how they feel

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/ for a FAQ in case no one told you @deep ore

[deep ore]

yep thats where the link was broken for me

[cobalt junco]

just a reminder shadows runs with an uncapped framerate so not a very good comparison. Something like Mario 64 would be better

[deep ore]

oh wow, it works perfectly too - thanks again all

[orchid nimbus]

@deep ore what link was broken?

[rose elbow]

yep! i looked into this later and discovered this also. video's unlisted so i'm not trying to put it out there in any public way or anything, just a bit of fun :-)

it's interesting tho, the mister version feels a lot smoother to play because of the uncapped performance thing

[cobalt junco]

we all know core is still in-progress but it would be interesting to see with it's current state how it holds up against OG hardware

[deep ore]

for me - the NSO N64 Discord link - its ok now though

[ebon oyster]

I can get some N64 games to boot using the latest N64 core test build, but not most. I see Vge's YouTube videos showing lots of games running that I can't get to boot at all -- I just get a black/blank screen after the ROM loads. Am I missing some critical setup step? What is this "n64-database" I see referenced by the "System Settings" submenu of the core's OSD? Do I need to download some database file from someplace in order for the right settings to be used for each game? On every game rom I try to load, I get a little status pop-up from the OSD that says "auto-detect failed"... is that expected?

[orchid nimbus]

weird

[iron trail]

Maybe it's because they didn't have a role yet 🙂

[deep ore]

channel access, i must have messed up when i joined the server way back when

again my fault, thanks all

[orchid nimbus]

oh well

sucks 😄

[iron dove]

Get the file from https://vampier.net/N64/

and you need unstable main (which added support for loading info from that file)

[ebon oyster]

I'm using my own private build of the cutting edge main

Thanks... had no idea I needed that file. Never would have figured that out! Thanks!

[iron dove]

as long as it has the commit from markun (https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/commit/aa768421943e69b156e6ea82c81ea27d8740b9e0)

[ebon oyster]

It has all the latest commits as of about 5 hours ago

[iron dove]

then enjoy Robert's amazing work 🙂

[lament escarp]

Are there any other changes to gc oot other than a and b buttons not having the correct colors and z targeting being called l targeting?

[orchid nimbus]

It runs lol

[zenith orchid]

DKR is so much more fun than I thought it would be

[mossy needle]

My somewhat unpopular opinion is DKR is the best racer on the console

[manic basin]

It really is great.

[chilly ember]

I'm at forest temple as adult link in non master quest gamecube version. I'm impressed how well the game runs, not a single crash

[old vortex]

It's a great game. I'm looking forward to playing through it all again.

[weary palm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JJcnYk4K84E

[latent galleon]

i'm still bummed the sequel got cancelled because it was definitely the best racer on the system

[zenith orchid]

it's my first time, I'm just doing time trial, taking it slow, making sure I can get as many bananas and speed boosts in each lap as I can, and then speed up from there. it's a lot of fun

[mossy needle]

Great music, varied tracks, adventure mode, decently difficult unlockables, and you can play as a Chicken

[zenith orchid]

a chicken??

[weary palm]

I love DKR.

Drumstick

[regal saffron]

hi, I can get the japanese version of sm64 patched with no face and it works but my us dies at the old spot past its a me even when patched no face, someone know why plz? its even my dump of my own us cart Sadge bad dump? bad endian-ness?

[weary palm]

You clip a frog to unlock him, lol

[zenith orchid]

yeah I love the tracks so far, they have so much character and in a way it feels like a tropical getaway

[old vortex]

I was actually just showing DKR to a friend last night. So weird that it’s the game where Conker was introduced.

[ebon oyster]

That did the trick, thanks again!

[weary palm]

@regal saffron which patch are you using? The us Lodgenet one?

[regal saffron]

i can get the jp patch from vampier.net to work but not the us version of the patch on my own us

i think i may have a bad dump that i made of my own cart

[dusty tusk]

If you got a spare controller.
JOINTVENTURE let's you play DKR coop

[zenith orchid]

didn't DKR also reintroduce a character from the star fox universe?

[weary palm]

Here's my patch for the US version of M64 (Non-Lodgenet)

[dusty tusk]

No... That's fzero

[zenith orchid]

oh yeah huh

[hearty oar]

oh right, James McCloud

[regal saffron]

why does sitting at jp-sm64 file select in mister with music ignite massive feels when my n64 is sitting right next to it lol

yeah, i think my retrode made a bad dump, no intro works

[dusty tusk]

Japanese composers really like their smooth jazz, so most of their tracks are just really comfy

[weary palm]

My patch is "superior" in that sense that it doesn't crash on game over/save & quit.

[versed cairn]

guys, I think I just found something huge

[shrewd peak]

explain

[versed cairn]

everdrive use to need cracks to get around Rare piracy protection. I thought that maybe trying them out on the core might get the games to boot, and BAM

couldn't get jet force gemini to boot but tooie seems for work. I was shocked

I think it need s 6102 cic instead of a 6105

[vagrant ivy]

Fully Playable:
These games have no major issues and can save progress, but random crashes may still occur. All games are US unless otherwise noted.

Banjo-Kazooie

Its been marked as fully playable already

without any "hacks"

[versed cairn]

read

[shrewd peak]

not tooie

though i guess tooie doesnt look very playable still even with it booting

[versed cairn]

I'll let you know once I get through the long intro but the game doesn't have those weird lines on the title screen

[shrewd peak]

oh dang

[versed cairn]

no crash yet

[shrewd peak]

cool, godspeed

[dusty tusk]

Ooh, nice

I wonder how many crashes are purely copy protection

[hearty oar]

at least a few are known to be thanks to TLB I think

[versed cairn]

theres also a patch for donkey kong 64

[quaint rune]

Witchcraft….

[versed cairn]

hm

[dusty tusk]

At some point the expansion patch worked, but I couldn't get it working anymore

[versed cairn]

is it ok to link to patches?

[dusty tusk]

Yeah

[versed cairn]

http://micro-64.com/database/patches.shtml

[shrewd peak]

dk64 cant save yet right?

[dusty tusk]

As long as there aren't roms included

[versed cairn]

the dk64 patch says "Makes the game save using SRAM with no issue."

[shrewd peak]

👀

[versed cairn]

are we able to combine the expansion patch and this patch?

[vagrant ivy]

Last nights build changed something about Sram

[weary palm]

About dk64. You should be able to apply the sram patch first and then the expansion pak check patch second.

[versed cairn]

wow this tooie intro is SO LONG

oh no bad news. this flickery grid is all over gamplay lol

[lament escarp]

Any other graphical issues except for the satan eyes of some kokiri and navi flashing out of existence?

[dusty tusk]

Look forward to trying the cut bottles revenge mode when cheats get implemented

[chilly ember]

The portals after bosses don't show but they're there

Thats the only thing i noticed

[lament escarp]

Dang. With how excited robert was for oot, I wouldn't be surprised if those would be the next fixes.

[chilly ember]

Sky box can sometimes be weird and black

[lament escarp]

I never had a n64 so the only version of oot I played are the gc and 3ds. So these miscolored buttons bother me more than they should lol.

[chilly ember]

The gamecube version is first version i played so it doesn't bother me too much

Not like I'm using a n64 controller anyways

[quaint rune]

Is cool to see tooie running

[fiery grove]

We lost faceless mario but gain Jail Banjo

[shrewd peak]

tried this but the second patch didn't work. the sram patch works, but still gets exp. pak screen

[weary palm]

Ok

[shrewd peak]

sad day

[versed cairn]

damn

[shrewd peak]

hows tooie going?

oh i just looked up

[versed cairn]

any cutscene it's fine, also menus. just white bars during gameplay.

no freezing so far

also I feel dumb. you can skip the intro with the B button...

saving works!

I looked up what it uses. set it to EEPROM16 and it worked like a charm

[shrewd peak]

Nice!

[zenith orchid]

anyone remember if xtreme-g is as good as f-zero?

i remember when I was a kid, some people were hyping it

but i never played it

[versed cairn]

it has it's charm but it's hard to beat f-zero X

[zenith orchid]

yeah I agree

I love that f-zero X truly feels like a successor to f-zero on the SNES, like an improvement on the original formula.

while I love SM64, it didn't build upon SMW in my opinion

[versed cairn]

60fps with that many racers is mindblowing

[zenith orchid]

oh yess

[versed cairn]

and the soundtrack slaps

[odd vector]

F-Zero X is way better than GX

[shrewd peak]

In soundtrack maybe

even then i think it's close, just that they're different

[versed cairn]

X is the GOAT of the franchise in my opinion, but GX is very close

[weary palm]

try this patch. no epak check and sram fix in one

[zenith orchid]

GX definitely didn't suck

[versed cairn]

you are a god

[weary palm]

haven't tried it myself. breakfast time.

[zenith orchid]

but it kinda went away from the original formula in some ways right?

[shrewd peak]

oh boy

im goin

[zenith orchid]

When Robert first released the GBA core, I was playing F-Zero on it.

maximum velocity

[versed cairn]

I'll save your eyes from the flicker but I got to jinjo palace no problem. I have to stop now. it's giving me a headache

[zenith orchid]

yikes

is that the most glaring issue? would we have a playable game if not for that?

[versed cairn]

I think so. other then some lighting weirdness it all looked and played perfect

and the constant jail bar flicker of course

[shrewd peak]

what kinda format is xpatch and how to apply? @weary palm

[iron trail]

Same here on Master Quest. No crashes. Good times.

[versed cairn]

heres more of the cutescenes. game looks amazing

[weary palm]

https://www.marcrobledo.com/RomPatcher.js/

[shrewd peak]

here goes

[weary palm]

The resulting rom won't be in the db so you'll need to set 8MB exp, cic6105 and sram32 manually or by reading plain ol dk64 first I guess

[shrewd peak]

still nothing unfortunately

black screen

[weary palm]

Ok

I'll try the patched rom in an emulator later and see if it's bust.

[shrewd peak]

alright, good luck

[mossy needle]

Wait how do you get Tooie to work?

[versed cairn]

@weary palm Maybe I applied it wrong but it dosn't seem to start at all here

[versed cairn]

I used the old everdrive crack patch and it worked

[shrewd peak]

crashes in retroarch

[chrome quest]

Was there ever any theory or understanding as to why some games still don't see the expansion with the 8MB setting?

[versed cairn]

no i don't think so. I'd love to know too

[shrewd peak]

i thought i read something about games using different methods to check for it

waiting on someone knowledgeable to chime in though

so games which don't currently recognize it probably uses some unsupported function to check

maybe

[mossy needle]

All the people I know on here that probably know are either asleep or at work

[slate sundial]

RE2 will not load for me (hangs on menu), but I just saw it running on VGEsoterica's latest video.

I'm using latest RBF and latest unstable nightly.

Tried cache on, and off, and in both cases the game simply crashes.

Any ideas?

[remote hatch]

Only JAP version works

Biohazard 2

[slate sundial]

AH

Ok thanks Kuba

[cedar otter]

I wonder if we'll have enough headroom to try OOT with a 30fps AR code enabled...

[silent marten]

I did get USA version in game yesterday and could run around for a bit then it crashed in the inventory

[lament escarp]

I don't know if it's the low resolution but the 20fps in oot feels surprisingly smooth.

[shrewd peak]

30fps oot is incredibly cursed if you're used to vanilla

[cedar otter]

Oh I'm not complaining about the fps, Nintendo did a reasobaly good job optimising the experience for their fps target, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to get a little headroom 😄

[remote hatch]

yeah , sometimes it works, but it hangs up pretty fast

Jak version works fine

[lament escarp]

That's totally fair, I just wanted to mention it's better than the 20fps number would indicate, incase someone is turned off by it.

[cedar otter]

Yep, there are a surprising number of games that were originally experience optimised for fairly low FPS

[final knoll]

I forgot about Mario Tennis…. gotta fire up to core to test 😊

[mossy needle]

mario tennis hangs after the camelot logo for me 😦

[final knoll]

😢 One day Mario… one day.

[mossy needle]

Everyday with the n64 core is a gift

[shrewd peak]

oot practice rom seems to work fine

savestates and all

deku stick as adult still crashes the game just like on a real n64

[slate sundial]

Temp not a desperate man
https://clip.cafe/romeo-juliet-1996/tempt-not-a-desperate-man/t/1/

[versed cairn]

oh man. Dead Deku tree looks crispy

I think this game might be very beatable. no crashes at all so far

[chilly ember]

I just finished the forest temple

No crashes from start to forest temple for me. So probably a game that can be completed without crashing

[versed cairn]

thats fantastic. I thought I might try to be the first to beat it but you're gonna beat me for sure

[chilly ember]

I gotta sleep so no more for me and busy tomorrow until later in the day so you have a chance

I haven't completed ocarina of time for a few years so i'm not exactly pro at it as memory is a little fuzzy

[versed cairn]

it will probably take me two days so will see. I'm no speedrunner either but I do beat it yearly

[chilly ember]

Yea you'll probably finish it before me then :p. I haven't spent alot of time collecting heart pieces so I'm a little behind on the extra stuff i might need. Just got hearts from the bosses lol

[versed cairn]

if you get some bottles you might be fine haha

[chilly ember]

Yea :p least i can go back and forth now

Between kid link and adult link

[versed cairn]

the songs help a lot. good to speed the young link so you can get around faster

[vapid hawk]

it all comes down to wether i take a wrong turn in the water temple or not for me 😄

[versed cairn]

Last time I beat it I was adement the water temple wasn’t that bad to my friend watching. I reseeded to get super lost and couldn’t find the last key.

[vapid hawk]

yeah its like, under that block in the central column that floats when the waters up

iirc

thats usually the one i've missed

[versed cairn]

Yeah, the one you have to push from the other side. That was the one

[cobalt junco]

Hi all, I have added some new hashes to my n64-database.txt file. These are the Big Endian .z64 files from the N64 no-intro 20230815-163131 set: https://datomatic.no-intro.org/index.php?page=download&s=24

This set has the most recent MD5 hashes from the no-intro DAT (these are unzipped and just the .z64 rom). I did this manually, so I only updated the hashes for the games that I plan to play on the core. You can get the txt file here and copy the changes to your own n64-database.txt file.

[bitter fjord]

odd, DK64 claims the expansion pak isn't installed

[chilly ember]

Need the patch

[bitter fjord]

ah! there is a patch for it? ok

[chilly ember]

https://vampier.net/N64/

Yea it's here

[bitter fjord]

thanks

btw I ordered the 8bitdo n64 controller kit. (grabbed 2 of them) so I can use a n64 controller on MiSTer

[chilly ember]

Same, I'm still waiting on mine tho

[bitter fjord]

https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-mod-kit-for-original-n64-controller

(if anyone wants to know what it is)

I made the purchase yesterday with the ps1/ps2 Bluetooth adapters

(for my retrogem setups)

[final knoll]

Come on 8Bit send me your innards..
I’m washed and ready to “let’s a go..”

[lament escarp]

It's also what I am using, but you need the range fix for this.

[bitter fjord]

range fix?

[lament escarp]

It's a wip @lone geyser and @bronze tree are making, it scales the range of the stick down to n64 levels, as the modkit itself is communicating normal range

#controllers message that's the one

[final knoll]

this is great to know. 😎

[bitter fjord]

I hope it'll be streamlined into the main mister binary/repo at some point

[lament escarp]

It only changes the range for the n64 core, so if you're using the psx core you'll have no problems.

[bitter fjord]

does it break using regular controllers on the n64 core?

[lament escarp]

That's why I ping them each time I have to tell people about it so they finally commit their great work.

[bitter fjord]

btw I assume controller pak isn't implemented yet in the core, since no games detect it

[lament escarp]

It's for normal controllers. The modkit is so to say a normal controller. I think only the nso n64 is a special case.

[chilly ember]

No controller pak yet

[bitter fjord]

yeah, if the nso controller was readily available I may have gone for that instead

[weary palm]

I cannot make that DK64 sram patch to work

the .aps that is

[lament escarp]

Only thing the 8bitdo modkit still needs is proper driver support for rumble. But @hearty oar is also working hard on that. I'm not too bothered by having the modkit instead of the nso, as there are already fixes for most of it's issues.

Maybe @orchid nimbus could post the range fix main and the nso driver update on his tutorial page so more people know about it.

[vagrant ivy]

I have neither and havent noticed any issue with the NSO controller

[hearty oar]

You only need it for wired use, and rumble eventually

You also get calibration data

[hollow rune]

Can the 8bitdo mod do controller pak with the Bluetooth receiver on actual hardware? Does controller pak already work on MiSTer with SNAC?

[vagrant ivy]

the add on makes the original controller bluetooth only

it doesnt have a cable or a dongle and so cant be used for Snac

[final knoll]

PCN made a video explaining how to set this up. 😎.. top banana 🍌. Looks like this setup changes all controllers to act like N64 https://youtu.be/p5fBaB0T3U0?si=YSK-7VP2g3IPGFa4

[rose elbow]

ok i've only just put on the unstable mister build now .. Diddy Kong Racing is so nostalgic 🥹

game i dont really think about or revisited much tbh coz its so deeply rooted in my childhood lol

[junior pine]

How's that NSO N64 controller connected to the MiSTer? Does it use 2.4G or is it a bluetooth laggy thing?

[hearty oar]

the latter

or you can use a wired USB connection, which alarmingly is most likely even laggier (Switch controllers are funny like that)

[vapid hawk]

have we got the exact numbers ?

[hearty oar]

Porkchop is going to release some numbers and some accompanying analysis soon afaik

but I uh, wouldn't get my hopes up given how all the other Switch controllers perform

[rose elbow]

ive been using the nso controller bluetooth and personally find it totally fine, but yeah i do believe its on par with the other nso controllers if you notice the lag

[junior pine]

Thanks guys, really. It's only wired or 2.4G for me.

[chrome quest]

Even the NSO case has been altered somewhat as I understand. The ZImage fix to get it all working could have left the approx. 85 range as by default while fixing other issues in the default NSO behaviour. But instead it is modified to the modern approx. 125 range level. This way NSO works great on the N64 core (with the WIP MiSTer analog fix version), but also allows NSO to work with full range for PSX or whatever else

[brisk drum]

Crazy how no one has mentioned Star Wars pod racer even once …

[remote hatch]

I check every time to make sure it works, but this is not the time 🙂

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah I wanted to check if its a TLB game

No its not a TLB game

[brisk drum]

Same here

Castlevania 64 first and pod racer second

It doesn’t require extra ram to run? Does it ?

[worn delta]

No

Podracer can get a performance boost or graphics boost if you have the expansion pack

But we have expansion pack ram in the core already

[viral swift]

Expansion Pack is mostly used for Higher Resolutions

[loud tartan]

Has anyone gotten Robert's savestate from 1080 snowboarding to work? I'm just getting a black screen after hitting the restore state option.
#1096015979055697940 message

[viral swift]

But some Games May get a FPS boost

[hollow rune]

Mystical Ninja, then Goemon's Great Adventure, then Mario Golf

[wanton sun]

make sure you have the jp/us version of the game and the name of the rom exactly matches the savestate name (except the _1 and the ending)

[rose elbow]

i dont think ive managed to get any savestates working personally for the n64 (like even my own saving and loading)

[loud tartan]

Thank you so much @wanton sun

[hollow rune]

I had trouble with this in the beginning and haven't tried again

[rose elbow]

trying again now

ive not really brought it up coz WIP but since it got brought up :)

[zinc dew]

Can you rename the savestate to the name of the rom?

[wanton sun]

you cannot create savestates, so the only chance is if i provide a savestate from my emulator currently

[wanton sun]

yes, minus ".z64", plus "_1.ss"

[zinc dew]

Thank you!

[rose elbow]

ahhhh !!! thank you !!!!

renaming worked 🙏

[wanton sun]

loading savestates is relativly low cost as you can just reset the core when they are loaded, but creating them is much more difficult as the core has to pause properly

[viral swift]

Is the analog out already implemented?

[wanton sun]

no, but there are some hacks to get it working

[hollow rune]

@wanton sun Core work today or day off?

[viral swift]

The ini settings from Vampiers page look horrible in my BVM 😁

*on

[wanton sun]

If all goes well, you can test even more games .... PAL games 😅

[remote hatch]

This is the way

[odd vector]

Nice, I noticed that F-Zero X Pal runs odd 👍

[rose elbow]

Beetle Adventure Racing
In addition to its original release, the game was released in Australia as HSV Adventure Racing. This version replaced the Beetles with HSV VT models.

not sure how many PAL exclusives there are but i know australia got Holden variant of Beetle Racing game LOL

[zinc dew]

I love Beetle Adventure Racing. One of my favorite racing games for the N64.

Multiplayer was also fun.

[rose elbow]

yup! i loved it also (... the holden one)

[marble cargo]

Big day for the two fans of Taz Express.

[rose elbow]

i rented that one once..

[remote hatch]

We all know that PAL games are better 😋

[rose elbow]

i honestly dont think i even got passed first stage on Taz as a kid

[final knoll]

i did wonder why 8bitdo’s n64 mod didn’t have usbc connectivity.. i’m waiting for it to arrive anyhow .. but yeah.. why didn’t they include a wired connection for direct input?.

[cerulean elk]

Poor Taz

He deserves better

[zinc dew]

there’s an unreleased US version of Taz Express right?

[cerulean elk]

Yep

[wanton sun]

played mario party german version with the kids. Only some minor graphics issues. For the kids it's much better if games are in german. They have english in school but not at a level yet where everything is clear easily

[cerulean elk]

Now I am just sitting here wondering who does the German Mario voice in stuff

and hoping somehow its Udo Kier

[wanton sun]

when i was young and some games have only been available english, i just played them and didn't care so much. But today it's different. Hard enough to sell n64 games to the kids when they could play minecraft or animal crossing on the same TV at the same time 😅

[cerulean elk]

close second choice would be Werner Herzog

[wanton sun]

i think it's the english voice?

[neat sierra]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qp1Lbmutry0&si=2ptiM3Gm8IjzXl09

[uncut gyro]

I keep trying to find Chinese game ROMs, for my 8 year old who has been in Chinese immersion school for 5 years now, but her Chinese reading isn’t good enough yet to figure out the characters with so little detail

[cerulean elk]

RIP Captain Lou

[uncut gyro]

sooo many people in the scummvm dev community were Europeans who learned English from playing (pirated) Secret of Monkey Island, Fate of Atlantis, etc

[cerulean elk]

and here I sit struggling with english haha

my brain cannot fathom second languages. Only class in school I never got an A in. I got a D-

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun Prost! 🍻

[uncut gyro]

I am quite poor with spoken languages, it’s one of the reasons I was so enthusiastic when my husband wanted to do immersion school for our child. 🙂

[safe robin]

Wario was or is supposed to be German, that's why in some n64 games he says "so ein mist!" when he loses 😅

I think I heard the PAL games have the English voices but in Japan for Mario kart 64 they had different voices

[uncut gyro]

People are amazed when I am switch programming languages, going between JavaScript, C++, Lua editors and debuggers on my ultra-ultra wide monitor, but that skill hasn’t translated into reading or speaking non-English languages

[chrome quest]

Very excited to get PAL. I had thought it would be a late addition to fit, or is that not a HDMI issue but rather the correct stuff for analogue? Will definitely be testing some PAL games

[cerulean elk]

I just cannot correlate in my brain "X word in this language = X word in english"

the time period for that realization takes forever

[lucid pine]

Just tested Cruis'n USA , runs great on my Sony via VGA --> Scart; nice fullscreen picture, i am totally impressed

[quasi storm]

So, I just experienced Smash Remix. Just thought I'd patch it up and give it a look... Then, it was 6 hours later.

[zinc dew]

oh yeah it's extremely good

[dreamy ridge]

i was watching youtube videos of all the extra characters remix adds last night...looks incredible

[final knoll]

i’m currently imagining a parallel universe where they have swapped bodies.😂😂

[cerulean elk]

haha Id live there

ominous Mario

[quasi storm]

I believe it's now the largest fully functional game we can play right now. Never threw an error once!

[viscid nebula]

Can you share a patch for this that skips the face?

I tried the USA (lodgenet) ips patch thats on vampier

no good

[desert crow]

you didn't fastrom the right base rom, you'd need to patch the lodgenet version with that patch

[viscid nebula]

there's no "usa" ips patch

only bps

;_;

[cerulean elk]

perfection

[rose elbow]

is this too cursed? LOL

[cerulean elk]

nah. Perfect amount

[viscid nebula]

I tried making my own ips based off of the usa one

now it wont even boot lmao

only Destry can save me now

or robert when he gets TCL working

xD

[lilac scroll]

What did you use to wash btw, I’ve got this coming up for me also.

[vagrant ivy]

Concentrated Sulphuric Acid, then a brief bath of Carbon Tet and a wash in some Petrol

or warm water, washing up liquid and an Isopropanol bath

[spare meadow]

What need to be implemented to KI Gold to work? Is it a TLB game?

[lilac scroll]

How to melt an n64 controller

[vagrant ivy]

well it would be clean

The cancer from the Carbon Tet would be a pain though

I washed mine in Hot water and fairy liquid. The dried it by washing in IPA and leaving in the sun. SInce you are replacing the main board you dont even need to bother removing it as its junk at this point

[worn delta]

Not sure if you noticed but there is this if you want to finally have the experience of playing Star Craft in German on the N64 that you were teased then robbed of 🙂 StarCraft 64 (Germany) (Proto).z64

[tropic sand]

I setup my n64, rad2x cable with Mario .. Just to play SM on real hardware vs the core.

It really makes you realize just how fabulous a job Robert has achieved already... 👏👏👏

[short trellis]

So the NSO N64 controller is not plug and play? I need an additional file? I searched but I still don't understand 😅

[lilac scroll]

Well actually, I wanted to deep clean them as they were bought used but I was thinking of only changing the analog at first so I can use misteraddon’s reflex

[cerulean elk]

Sunday’s video will be “games that just straight up work”. Because there are so many

[rose elbow]

#test-builds message

on sd, /linux @short trellis

[worn delta]

I added a column in the ROW (and Unlicensed) for whether the games should be PAL or NTSC, the only ones I am not sure of are the 4 Brazil games which I assume are NTSC. Not sure if there is a way to check. Probably worth double checking the one Asian game as well, but weird if that was PAL

May need to do something similar on some of the other tabs like revisions thinking about it. That's a job for another day though

[short trellis]

Thank you!

[mortal panther]

Good to have advance warning. boot1.rom ready and waiting. 😉

[cerulean elk]

I didn’t think anything could beat N64 excitement but a trailer for a new Godzilla series with Kurt Russell AND John Goodman won the week 🤣

[zinc dew]

Beat Normal in 1080 Snowboarding! Now onto Hard.

[dreamy ridge]

you're on your way to getting the golden snowboarder 🤣

[worn delta]

You racing on a penguin or a panda?

[final knoll]

i just used a mild detergent. worked fine… I used my brothers toothbrush to get in all the bits 🪥

[mortal panther]

Very important to properly scrub all your dirty bits.

[final knoll]

i was sure to get right up in there….

[cerulean elk]

lol staring at more N64 footage. Its never ending fun

can I just say "Elmo works" and end the vid that way? haha

[worn delta]

OK, gone and added NTSC/PAL column on prototypes and revisions as well. There are a few in there I am not sure about from the name, so if anyone knows an easy way to tell if a rom is NTSC or PAL that would be really useful info to have

[vapid moat]

50hrz-support?

[worn delta]

Time for people to go track down that PAL .pif 🙂

[vapid moat]

I have one lying around still

[mortal panther]

50 Hurts...

[vapid moat]

NTSC-versions are nice but 50hrz is true nostalgia for me with select of games

[compact depot]

Wait, no random freezes in OoT like in Mario 64? 😱

[worn delta]

... hint: google no intro pack archive, the .pif files are there now

[vagrant ivy]

or maybe read a FAQ

[mortal panther]

The only situation where I begrudgingly prefer PAL over NTSC is with Commodore 64... almost out of necessity.

[zealous hull]

And this is how I learned the lead singer of Smash Mouth died. I read somebody named Steve Harwell had died. Didn't connect it though.

[worn delta]

Don't recall the FAQ saying where to find them

[mortal panther]

It's there...

[vagrant ivy]

suggest you read the FAQ

[mortal panther]

There's a link to Ares Github.

[worn delta]

Ah, well there you go

[vagrant ivy]

The God Of War provides

[mortal panther]

That reminds me... I need to finish Ragnarok. 😄

[mellow path]

Any idea why the non-gc OOT isn't running? Just curious as the 1.0 rom is the basis for some things.

[zealous hull]

A (minor) issue with the Ares repo imo is that GitHub isn't always super obvious about how to download individual files--if you aren't super famliar with it.
A handful of people on here seem to have ran into issues with it from what I've observed.

Not to mention they really probably shouldn't be hosting the pif to begin with. That doesn't seem wise to me.

[hollow rune]

Is the pif reverse engineerable? Could someone with no knowledge of it make a replica?

[zealous hull]

I mean, people have written homebrew bios files before.

imo, doesn't really mean there is a need

[hollow rune]

there is a gba one right?

[viscid nebula]

anyone know how to hex edit a mario 64 romhack to skip the face intro?

[zealous hull]

We have...ways...of getting pifs, but a emulation repo shouldn't have it. lol

[zealous hull]

yes, actually

[viscid nebula]

😮

[zealous hull]

thanks to a user on here

[viscid nebula]

can you share the sacred knowledge 😄

[zealous hull]

Don't want to tag them and bug them, but it was justz00t. They told me that you can pretty much just search for the value:
14 00 00 78

and replace it with:

14 00 02 0C

[sudden pumice]

You mean, Linux? Any PC can do that

[viscid nebula]

amazing, thank you!!

[zealous hull]

It's worked consistently for me. No problem!

Wait, you're the Starfox EX lead dev?

Holy shit. lol

[viscid nebula]

🤣 yeah thats me

😄

[zealous hull]

very happy to help. lol

Thanks for your work!

[viscid nebula]

Sounds like you've enjoyed Starfox EX, thats awesome!!

😊

[wanton sun]

yes, much easier than a GBA bios as the pif bios is never accessed in the game. Many emulators skip it entirely

[zealous hull]

oh that's interesting.

[wanton sun]

auto select will be there today

boot.rom = ntsc, boot1.rom = pal -> selected automatically with n64-database when you load a game

[zealous hull]

amazing. I recall you saying that it was on the roadmap, but I didn't think it'd be less than 48 hours.

You astound me, Robert.

[zinc dew]

Dumb question but how did PAL games even work without the pal pif?

[wanton sun]

some games might not care, i didn't check in detail. But e.g. majoras mask will tell you it's not going to work on this system, while with pal pif it works

[zinc dew]

I got Aeroboarder 64, Centre Court Tennis, and Rakugakids booting. Just not Taz Express 😢

[zealous hull]

Taz Express?! The best, but also mid, but also worst game on the console?!

[mild ether]

From my testing some games check if it's 50hz or 60hz and the ones that do work with a NTSC PIF had skipping music.

[paper orchid]

Taz Express? Is that the game with Brian and the 4 elements

[pallid falcon]

Premier Manager 64 will be able to get past the "lol, wrong console" message (and Taz)

[mild ether]

Have not found a game yet that wants a NTSC console that doesn't work with the 60hz Brazilian PAL PIF.

[zealous hull]

That seems consistent with what some others have said.

[mild ether]

Is there a Brazil exclusive game?

[pallid falcon]

Yes, unlicensed game Ronaldo

[zealous hull]

Ooh. Datacache on by default. I like this change. 🙂

[vapid moat]

PAL BUILD IS OUT

[pallid falcon]

It already works if you want to play it

[mild ether]

Interesting. I will have to try it but probably doesn't care about the region being unlicensed

[vapid moat]

[vapid hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/die-hard-john-mc-clane-welcome-to-the-party-pal-glass-break-gif-15466663

[pallid falcon]

Yesterday; today:

[south summit]

Maybe the Aleck 64 pif might be needed for some of those games? I have not really checked. I know some boot

[zinc dew]

Look what I found in the trash @cerulean elk

[cerulean elk]

lol I will see how that goes

[mild ether]

It's the same as the NTSC PIF.

[south summit]

Ok, nice😊

[cerulean elk]

just underneath the carts is your dignity. You should try and dig it out

[zealous hull]

holy shit

[south summit]

@zinc dew shitposting is going hard I see😂

[mild ether]

Really only should ever need the 50hz PAL and any of the 60hz PIF files.

[pallid falcon]

PAL exclusives:
F-1 World Grand Prix II
F1 Racing Championship
Premier Manager 64
Taz Express

PAl and Japanese only games:
AirBoarder 64
Centre Court Tennis
Rakuga Kids

[woeful grove]

those look pretty skippable

[vapid hawk]

the F1 games are ok

if you like F1 games anyway

[cerulean elk]

What? Premier Manager 64 is a must play 😆

[pallid falcon]

Rakuga Kids isn't too bad

[worn delta]

I need to double check the splash for this one as although it is called Ronaldo it looked like a picture of Ronaldinho, which if that is the case is really funny

[mild ether]

Air boarder was the only one that caught my eye.

[wanton sun]

exclusives are not great, it's mostly if you prefer the PAl version for e.g. language reasons

[woeful grove]

these comments all sounds like people defending McDonalds coffee

[vapid hawk]

yeah the language support is the main thing really

[cerulean elk]

Yes people getting THEIR language will be awesome

[daring meteor]

Ronaldo worked on the normal NTSC PIF by the way

[zinc dew]

AirBoarder is kinda cool. Like I’d be mad if that was my Christmas present but on the core? It’s neat.

[mild ether]

What is wrong with McDonald's coffee?

[daring meteor]

So no need to change it

[cerulean elk]

but like normal PAL region didnt get much in the way of must play exclusive games

[vapid hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hffgNRfL1XY

[pallid falcon]

PS had many more PAL exclusives - cheaper to burn a CD than have a cart produced

[zinc dew]

Test build pin updated

[daring meteor]

Did someone idle in Bowser 2 in SM64 already

[viscid nebula]

Will the CIC ever not need n64-database.txt?

[cerulean elk]

and before I do my voice over...chefs kiss

I can mention PAL

@zinc dew you are my true PAL

[zinc dew]

we are secret PALs don’t tell chat

I mean I can’t wait to dislike your next video

[cerulean elk]

no I meant you are slower than everyone else here

[wanton sun]

what is that? pal/ntsc?

[cerulean elk]

walked into that one @zinc dew 😆

[worn delta]

Nice, just see the test build :-). For people testing PAL remember to check the ROW and prototypes tabs for more PAL games 🙂

[devout leaf]

Surprisingly deep

[wanton sun]

you probably need a custom setting like the one that exists for ntsc?

[lament escarp]

How about japanese pif? Neon genesis only has a japanese version. But doesn't care about pif afaik.

[daring meteor]

There is no Japanese PIF

Just NTSC, PAL and PAL-M

[wanton sun]

is there anything that needs PAL-M?

if not i would be very happy to skip that

[pallid falcon]

Someone needs to make a video with the headline "Biggest update yet - 100+ new games work"

[daring meteor]

Supposedly the only Brazilian game is the meme game and it works alright

[tidal glade]

I always have this waves on crt with n64, using ntsc. I assumed it was normal.

[daring meteor]

It is normal

[cerulean elk]

"N64 Big Update! Core Sprechen Sie Deutsch"

[daring meteor]

As in its a bug that happens to everyone

[zinc dew]

Skip it!!

🧑‍⚖️

[devout leaf]

I’m gonna have the toy theme stuck in my head all day now.

[pallid falcon]

Premier Manager 64 update - IT (probably) WORKS!

[scarlet prawn]

Curious why so many games require the no intro versions or patches to work? I am sure eventually that will be worked out, but just curious why they the other ones work for now. Is it specific features not implemented yet?

[wanton sun]

with unstable mister main all game formats should work and patches...well mario64 needs one but i'm not aware of any other useful patch to realy make a game playable

[scarlet prawn]

Yeah, I have little waves, almost jaggies on my NTSC games/crts as well fyi

[zinc dew]

It’s just Mario 64 that requires a patch.

Whatever programming features they’re using with the interactive Mario face is currently not supported on the core.

[scarlet prawn]

Ah ok, so need unstable mister main

[wanton sun]

markun implemented automatic endian detection, switch and byte swapping from all the different format in mister main, so the core can save that logic 🙂

[old iris]

Is the core still not working on a composite signal in color?

[zinc dew]

Yay @bronze tree, you’re awesome!

[pallid falcon]

If someone could patch 80% of the code of Paperboy, it could be turned into a semi-decent game?

[devout leaf]

Why would you turn a masterpiece into a semi decent game?

[wild pulsar]

@daring meteor me too, with PAL games and matching BIOS on CRT via RGBs

[weary palm]

Is SRAM broken in the regular (expansion pak fixed) version of DK64?

[daring meteor]

Ahhhhh yeah that's a different issue

[uncut gyro]

Rakuga Kids is supposed to be pretty special. I never played it personally, though.

[zinc dew]

omg

[buoyant plume]

PAL games wont look correct on a CRT with the 240p settings, PAL has more lines and nearer to 280p

[weary palm]

Played for 9 minutes without crash, but the sound went away halfway

where is the N64 fork of MiSTer main

[wild pulsar]

On the video i've posted, it's not 240p forced (i have no vga_scaler directive in mister.ini, it's the "raw" output). I know CRT is not fully implemented, it's just to let you know.

[wanton sun]

dk64 is known for depending on original timing to work properly and the core is currently off in video clock, audio clock and RDRAM speed, so i wouldn't have much hope

[solid crest]

@wanton sun do Aleck 64 games need the Aleck 64 pif?

[mild ether]

I have been using the Brazil PIF and so far it works identically to the NTSC PIF.

[cerulean elk]

Brazil is hot on N64. Lots of comments from Brazilians

[mild ether]

Nothing seems to need it

[devout leaf]

The Sega Genesis scene is unreal. Was just discontinued June 2023.

[pallid falcon]

Most of the Aleck 64 games boot now, and some are playable

[mild ether]

How are my Dolls doing?

[pallid falcon]

Boots into a test suite

[cerulean elk]

Brazil is in the top 10 of my “views by country”

They love their retro

[weary palm]

Any Swedes?

[cerulean elk]

Let me check

I do love Sweden. Spent a lot of time there up in the mountains. Are. But I dunno how to make my keyboard type that right

[orchid nimbus]

update_n64 can now be ran

[mild ether]

That is kinda strange. I know they love their Sega Master System.

[cerulean elk]

Nope. Sweden doesn’t make the ten

[orchid nimbus]

make sure to update the updater as it now can update the n64-database file

[daring meteor]

There is no Aleck64 PIF

[cerulean elk]

Netherlands does thoufh

[daring meteor]

The one from mame is a padded NTSC pif

[orchid nimbus]

brownnosing doesn't get you anywere with me 😄

[pallid falcon]

Here's a spooky swede https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/abf4b52a904457cf297cacbc335190ecf7419c5b/0_206_5140_3084/master/5140.jpg?width=700&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=092618667ee7f3fe45260a720db6fef4

[devout leaf]

Time to turn an ikea cutting board into an arcade stick.

[cerulean elk]

Anyone here Swedish?

[orchid nimbus]

nej

[pallid falcon]

Just checked my analytics. 100.5% people who watch my videos are not subscribers. Now that's some reach.

[fallen sparrow]

I can play all my N64 games at the superior 50hz now 😁

[uncut gyro]

What other games are known in the emulator community to be extremely timing/latency-sensitive?

[orchid nimbus]

The update_n64 has been adjusted to download a n64 database if those get updated
the script does not auto update and will have to be downloaded manually

Hardest N64 game for emulation
Pokemon Stadium 2.
Banjo-Tooie.
Resident Evil 2.
Conker Bad Fur Day.

and the big screen in Mario Kart 64 in the 1st race

[pallid falcon]

Arguably Mario no Photopi and Morita Shogi 64 as well, if we include full functionality

and Tetris 64

[mild ether]

Shame we can't play Shōgi with our friends over a phone line.

[vapid moat]

Nope, but I'm from Finland tho

[daring meteor]

We have it

[zinc dew]

You’re from Finland? Do you know Joe?

[vapid moat]

Joe... Mama?

[zinc dew]

[vagrant ivy]

excuse Robby. hes an American so thinks everybody knows everybody in europe !

[vapid moat]

I didn't wanna take any chances

[orchid nimbus]

Suomi

[zinc dew]

I mean, all of Europe basically fits into Texas right?

[vapid moat]

Yep, the country where manga and anime cannot thrive because DUCKS

[zinc dew]

for our European friends:

[cerulean elk]

Been there too. Shot rails in Helsinki. City has some killer hand rails

[orchid nimbus]

@vapid moat to be fair Finland has a fair amount of Ducks because of lakes .... but there are more perkele there per square meter than in the US

[vapid moat]

Huh, prolly should take a gander to them when I go to the central now and then

[orchid nimbus]

@vapid moat also I love how your country brought us this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5UkA2Gg-Cc

[vapid moat]

Yeah, but by Ducks, we have Duckverse, and whatever Alfred J.Kwak is

[mortal apex]

Got in with cic 6102 just like Philippe found out earlier today. I'm guessing it's the same patch?

[viscid gate]

It was the dextrose one I tried - had the same name as yours - and that worked

[cerulean elk]

Plus the cops are chill AF. That whole “every man’s right” you have there is awesome

[hollow pebble]

how can that be accurate if Jupiter isn't there? god, why even bother...

[orchid nimbus]

That's a Cartoon that was dreamt up by some Dutch dude and then told Japanese to make it

[zinc dew]

moomin?

[vapid moat]

I have never seen that vid, but I recognize meme from this:

https://youtu.be/vcfcr95AuSw?t=148

[vapid moat]

Huh, that explains everything

Reminds me how I must had ended watching all the 80s or 70s anime geared at kids thanks to these collabs

[orchid nimbus]

well I guess this ex-Dutch guy brightened your horizon today 😄

[vapid moat]

Yeah - there's a reason I rather stay here than try say, travel to US...

[rose elbow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetle_Adventure_Racing

In addition to its original release, the game was released in Australia as HSV Adventure Racing. This version replaced the Beetles with HSV VT models.

important !!! lol

[cerulean elk]

I need to get my EU passport. I can because of my grandfathers immigration from Italy back in the day but I need to hire an immigration lawyer to do all the paperwork in Italian

[zinc dew]

Were there any other changes? Like with handling or anything?

[cerulean elk]

The Video Game Esoterica American roots only started in 1935

[rose elbow]

tbh ive never played the beetle ver

[vapid moat]

Here's hoping you get it~ Finland's pretty chill place

[cerulean elk]

And considering my wife and I have no kids…might not last forever 🤣

[cerulean elk]

Yeah the US blows if you aren’t some corporate worker. Being an artist just means “what months am I gonna have healthcare and what months do I need to bubble wrap myself”

[zinc dew]

Oh no, we’re more similar then I thought. This sucks. I’m born in the US but first generation born outside of Spain.

[cerulean elk]

I’m just a prettier you 🤣

[mortal apex]

Same here, other than that it seems to run fairly well

[rose elbow]

id be inclined to say its just a "model swap" kinda thing for licensing reasons or something and probably controls exaclty the same

[cerulean elk]

My wife has comprehensive, “really good” and expensive healthcare. They still find 100 reasons to try and deny any fucking thing she needs 😩

[zinc dew]

Yeah that makes sense!

[vapid hawk]

biohazard2 seems to reliably freeze when you enter the stars office

[bitter fjord]

the only way I can think of us by using a usb64 https://github.com/Ryzee119/usb64

[vapid hawk]

blueretro can do that too

[modern sleet]

I can almost count the shift in hblank per line with this image. Pretty neat how much the lines shift if timing is off so little across one variable

[oblique remnant]

maybe due R.P.D eerh RDP 😄

[rose elbow]

i been playing on crt all weekend .. obvs noticing the misaligned lines but also p easy to ingore and get used to after a min or so of playing

[mellow terrace]

Can confirm. Robby are you also from Texas???

[cerulean elk]

I’m going to refresh the N64 setup guide; other than the obvious (core in folder, make N64 folder in games. Pif added and renamed, txt database, @orchid nimbus page with patches) what am I missing?

I’ve noticed in comments on videos people seem to be struggling again

[vagrant ivy]

The Patch for SM64 since no one actually reads the FAQ

[slate sundial]

2nd PAL PIF as boot1.rom

[cerulean elk]

Yes that’s why I want to refresh as well

[slate sundial]

and the version of RE2 thay works is the JPN ROM

[cerulean elk]

I’ve mentioned it a dozen times. After that I get into “hand holding” and that’s too time consuming

[desert crow]

With Biohazard 2 in game the resolution says 328x214. It looks like 4 pixels from right side of screen are showing on the left.

[vagrant ivy]

And yet I can almost bet that tonight we will get SM64 crashes why ?

[cerulean elk]

I told them that in video. Those are problems I can answer with a “use Japanese rom” three word response

[slate sundial]

another useful thing for me has been to reset MiSTer between game testing to get some games to work that previously didn't.

[cerulean elk]

This fall I’m going to add a patreon tier that is just direct access to me to “solve your problems”

For people who need extra help

[cerulean elk]

Ahh yes. I’ll add that

[tropic sand]

I'd mention saves... as in current status. Link to 1080 save that Robert provided. How to use? Not sure if a video or FAQ

[slate sundial]

I tested my entire ROM list, posted results here, but they were useless as I hadn't reset MiSTer Inbetween 🫣

[bronze tree]

you're welcome 🙂

[slate sundial]

also, for HDTV users, the MiSTer needs to be set to integer scaling in INI, for clean scaling / scanlines & shadowmasks to work properly - as there's no integer scaling toggle in the core menu yet

[cerulean elk]

I’ll bring up saves and how to make sure it saves. The rest is up to them 🙂

[rose elbow]

also need the unstable miser ebuild alongside the txt databsae

[cerulean elk]

Yep that’s just a rehash of what I’ve already told people

75% hasn’t changed. 25% has changed / been added

Biggest issue is listening. Most people say “oh I must have skipped over that part”…which drives me insane 😩

[zinc dew]

Ah I’m sorry to hear. Must be annoying.

[viscid gate]

One of the things I’ve really enjoyed with this core so far is discovering all the variety of N64 ROM hacks that are around and still being developed.

[viscid nebula]

kaze never stops

if only he would dig into the SNES, we have a great engine for him

😦

[zinc dew]

he’s like the kandowontu of Mario 64 hacks

[viscid nebula]

pretty much

[rose elbow]

i’ve never managed to get hacks working nicely on everdrive (probably something to do with australia pal not 100% sure) but agreed! already having more luck here

[cerulean elk]

I just never get it. It’s two minutes. It’s not like I spent 45 seconds singing a song for fun 🤣 there’s important info in there

[wanton sapphire]

Stange problem only with PAL game, boot1.rom and vsync_adjust=2 -> black screen (Mister needs a reboot), with vsync_adjust=1 instead all OK

[rose elbow]

the biggest advice sometimes is ‘just join the discord’ but some people have their ways i guess

[cerulean elk]

I try not to send people here “for help” if I can help them

Before this is a wall or “help me”

[rose elbow]

hmm

[wicked granite]

@wanton sun Pal games break vsync_adjust 2 here. NTSC works fine, as do all other 50hz cores. Also strange that it outputs only 237 active lines in PAL, this should be higher - maybe that confuses the scaler.

[slate sundial]

just an idea, maybe a N64 core basic troubleshooting video, and if anyone gets stuck "here's a video of common user errors that can help"

[zinc dew]

I think that’s a good idea but fundamentally the core is WIP and if someone can’t manage now then it’s best they wait until the core is released. There’s a lot of progress happening that quickly changes the info and walkthrough process.

[slate sundial]

you're probably right here

[zinc dew]

I don’t know if I am, haha. I just hope that doesn’t appear unkind.

Loads of new people here and we are more than happy to help but setting up a WIP core for someone who’s new to MiSTer is a bit undertaking.

[orchid nimbus]

boot1.rom as off today - instructions haven't been updating - have been arguing with someone in #help

[slate sundial]

Not really, and it's kinda like writing a guide on water, as the WIP nature of the thing means the goalposts are moving

[zinc dew]

But to your point, once most major features are in and it’s just bug fixing. A guide would be excellent because core usage won’t dramatically change from that point on.

[cerulean elk]

Yes. These are for the “if you want to try, here’s how. Expect this to change” crowd

[slate sundial]

yea, I've sent setups to people, and had people send setups to me (Amiga core I'm looking at you lol)

[mortal panther]

Regardless of how many times someone posts a link to the FAQ explaining in detail exactly what needs to be done.
"I read that. It's still not working."
"Read it again... slowly."
"I did!"
"Did you put the database text file in the correct folder?"
"What's that?"
"...it's in the FAQ..."
"Oh... must have missed a step."

[cerulean elk]

Once the core is released I do the “ultimate blah blah setup blah blah video”

[weary palm]

Jag är svensk 🇸🇪

[zinc dew]

Also to be completely fair and transparent. I myself am in the “wait until new MSX core is done” crowd. I have no idea what I’m doing there lol.

[rose elbow]

omg new msx core ???

[wanton sapphire]

Same for me...

[slate sundial]

me either 🤣 and Metal Gear 2 remains unplayed for YEARS now

[ocean ivy]

Do we meed an unstable MiSTer build in order to play the N64 core or will the latest stable one do?

[cerulean elk]

MSX/X68000/ao486 are def the "upper tiers" of "you need to know what you are doing

But at least X68000 hasnt changed so my old setup guide gets great retention views and helps people

[zinc dew]

Yes need latest unstable

I’ll append that to the pins

[slate sundial]

been itching to try this core for a long time

[cerulean elk]

I 100% stopped the "hey can you fix my rare arcade board" help on the side unless people pay me top dollar. I hate fixing people's physical stuff and now its on a "you wont want to pay this but its X"

[ocean ivy]

Thanks for the heads-up guys!

[cerulean elk]

now its "what do you mean you want $300 just to burn a few chips and solder in a socket" and my response is "I dont want to do this. You are buying my time. Ive got other shit I should be doing" lol

[zinc dew]

Compatibility Tracker

Spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8

(thanks to @worn delta for this invaluable community resource; reach out to him if you’d like to contribute)

[slate sundial]

good man, important to value your time! I periodically get asked to provide free animations (for commercial projects) 🤦‍♂️

[spare meadow]

Trying to run DK64 but it’s keeping asking for the expansion pak to work. Do I still need the pached dk64 version?

[zealous hull]

Yes

[hollow rune]

I am ready to play the new build!

[brisk drum]

Im at work dang it!

[quaint rune]

On a Saturday? Ouchy

[cerulean elk]

lolol I love those contacts

[zinc dew]

#1096015979055697940 message

[cerulean elk]

"hey would you be interested in shooting a commercial / promo for our company' "yeah sure. What's your budget / here's my rate"..."oh we were thinking this would be for experience"..."MOTHERF****R Ive been behind a camera for 20 years. Experience can eat my a**"

[brisk drum]

They better pay the fuck up

You want to go down there and break their thumbs?

[vagrant ivy]

no one gets rich behind a Camera !

[cerulean elk]

well a few people do

the rest of us dont. @manic basin you rich yet?

[mild ether]

Yeah, I can think of a few.

[manic basin]

I'm easily still 30% underwater on gear. 😦

I might break even in 2031.

[languid dune]

You're going to give us that 3DO core, and you're going to do it right now!! 😆

[cerulean elk]

boot1.rom for PAL yes?

[hollow rune]

yes

worked for me

[oblique remnant]

can't get it to sync in 50hz neither with capture card or monitor ... only with the buffer on

[hollow rune]

50 fps is gross

[inner garden]

does anyone have a rom hack with every Kaze optimization and near 60 fps?

for Mario 64

[cerulean elk]

ok VO time. See you all in a bit. Then ive gotta go shoot more Analogue Pocket stuff on cam

[chrome quest]

I don't suppose Vampiers script pulls the analog fix unstable build? Maybe not worth adding to a video, might complicate things.

[safe robin]

My flat TV can handle everything but 50hz he cannot 😅

[oblique remnant]

with the psx core I have a sync in 50hz...

[hollow rune]

Should we expect some games that didn't boot or run to boot?

[safe robin]

In the psx core no problem because it's not straight 50hz it seems. Was the n64 really straight 50hz in pal or will it get fine tuned later?

[vagrant ivy]

Pal games may now

[languid dune]

I love how I always manage to pick on Robby, and when I do so, I often wonder if I'm taking it too far. Then I see Awbacon go like "Naw Robby is the devil incarnate, I gonna eviscerate him"

[hollow rune]

No I get that

[hollow rune]

I mean should we expect dramatically different behavior from PAL games as opposed to NTSC games

[zinc dew]

lol @brisk drum didn’t even see my todo list

[vagrant ivy]

I dont know thats where the Panda Stream comes in

[oblique remnant]

not sure what the exact PAL output would be. EDIT -> PAL = 49,65653Mhz

[hollow rune]

No stream today, but am testing. will share pictures

[languid dune]

I shall ensure he sees your treachery!

[safe robin]

Maybe Robert set it to 50hz straight like he set ntsc to 60hz straight because it's better for testing and debugging?

[languid dune]

Robert should go full and set 50hz as the default setting for the core.

[wicked granite]

PAL is exactly 50hz while NTSC is 60 * 1000/1001 hz...... I think currently vsync_adjust = 2 does not work because of some oversight in the n64 core - maybe its outputting to few lines for pal - that might confuse the scaler or the monitor/tv. I am sure this will be fixed, as all other cores work fine at 50hz with vsync_adjust=2 on my display, and probably most others.

[inner garden]

do you know how to get this?

[vagrant ivy]

The core is beta and not built for CRT at all yet

Robert does all tests on HDMI

[hollow rune]

Servus, alle Deutscher/in/+. Around what time was it a guarantee that a game would be available in German? Just noticing these PAL games have at best 3 languages and sometimes not even that.

[vagrant ivy]

if it works at all on CRT you should take it as a bonus

[languid dune]

You could also try it on an HD CRT TV that has an HDMI port!

[slate sundial]

Yea, they always try and sell the "experience" BS !

[chrome quest]

CRT proper will be fun to test when Robert adds the clocks and such required. Saying the PAL Hz for example. At least from other cores, wouldn't be surprised if it changes for near or at 50.00Hz to something else when resolution changes. Very common on Megadrive

[oblique remnant]

you're talking about the exactly Hz output would be straight 50hz? I've read something that the PAL Video DAC gets 49,65653Mhz. but I can't test it as I don't have a PAL console near me

[cerulean elk]

every time

or "do one free, next is paid"....uhhuh

[chrome quest]

Is there 240p suite for N64? Might have some details there

[viral swift]

Use the 240p Suite in a NES Emulator 😁

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/update_N64.sh

[cerulean elk]

ok I went over where to get the core, vampiers website and scripts, N64 database text and case sensitivity, where to put core files / game files / creating N64 folder / boot.rom and boot1.rom, etc etc. Only thing I did NOT show is the checksum of the PIF. YT gets mad at the weirdest things

[orchid nimbus]

oh I just had a nice discussion in #help

I feel your pain

the FAQ is updated to relfect that the PAL PIF now needs to be named boot1.rom

let me make a note to make it extra clear

[cerulean elk]

I left out analog video / controllers with a note "its very hit or miss, people are working on it, I havent decided what controller I love yet, stay tuned"

I was ultra clear that PAL needs boot1.rom and I put a title on screen

[orchid nimbus]

As of 2023-09-09 the PAL PIF should be named boot1.rom as the core supports PAL timing.

[wicked granite]

The PAL standard ist exact 50hz, so Robert choosing 50hz should not lead to a loss of sync on any display. The real N64 might have a slightly different frequency as most CRTs of that era were rather tolerant. But I was refering to a post who theorized that the exact 50hz might lead to loss of sync via vsync_adjust = 2. And that is highly improbable because that ist the PAL standard. So the problem lies somewhere else. I am 99.9% sure that this will be fixed...

[oblique remnant]

PAL Resident Evil 2 didn't crash like US

[lament escarp]

That 25fps tho...

What fps does pal oot have? 17?

[desert crow]

looks like it has the stray pixels on the left too, but only 2

[lament escarp]

There also were different pal versions, some even without english language to choose.

Also your german is adorable.

[daring meteor]

Random game versions crashing is a curiosity

[oblique remnant]

I think its the same as biohazard 2 my screenshot is cropped a bit

[ebon oyster]

Doom 64 has some really odd things happening with alpha-blending of sprites.

[oblique remnant]

F-Zero X 50 fps 😄

[desert crow]

oh ok, i just thought it was weird. has anyone saw that in other games?

[ebon oyster]

and Hexen is totally unplayable because everything other than HUD and the player's hands is just solid black. Hexen blindfolded speedruns?

[zinc dew]

** 𝐂𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐃𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐨𝐩𝐞𝐫 **

Core By - @wanton sun
-# ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎↳ With support from @lone geyser, @bronze tree, @hearty oar, & @weary palm

Patreon - [[LINK](https://www.patreon.com/FPGAzumSpass>)]

(please consider joining the MiSTer FPGA's Patreon to help support development)

re-arranging pins don't mind me

[zenith orchid]

yay, now I can play PAL exclusives! now to figure out what they are 😄

[hollow rune]

it isn't a long list

[zenith orchid]

I typically do prefer 50fps over unstable 60fps

so I might even play non exclusive PAL games

[lament escarp]

Pal isn't only 50fps. When using half fps, which would be 30 its 25fps. Also check out the pal ffx pancake faces. I grew up with that shit. Now I'm kinda allergic to it.

[mild ether]

https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time

If anything here is wanted to be edited in that has a GameShark code let me know. I will take a look when I get up.

[ebon oyster]

It's a bird... it's a... plain?

[zinc dew]

I know this is going to sound dumb but I am proud of my pins 😤

[ebon oyster]

Like a big grassy field?

[zenith orchid]

Yeah I probably wouldn't use PAL in case of half FPS.

[mild ether]

They are pretty nifty and to the point. Be proud.

[lament escarp]

You should be. I didn't want to mention it in case some other mod reads it, but you make the best pins. ❤️

[zinc dew]

sorry I didn't mean to fish for compliments lol

[mild ether]

I wanted to add in the save game for the intro to the rom.

No, they are pretty nice and makes the pins more organized.

There should be a archive somewhere of the perfect N64 folder for testing this core. No idea where that could be but someone smarter than me surely could do that.

[inner garden]

ran this and looks like it didn’t work

[orchid nimbus]

run agian

[inner garden]

ran it a second time and it worked better

[orchid nimbus]

yeah 🙂 sorry about that

it's hard to test vanilla runs

[inner garden]

nice work

[orchid nimbus]

thanks 🙂 hope it works too

[inner garden]

there’s no data cache option on this build? or it moved? or became default

[orchid nimbus]

on by default

[remote hatch]

debug section

[inner garden]

now if I could just get that 60 fps mario patch

[orchid nimbus]

Lylat Wars

seriously - who names it lylat wars

[daring meteor]

Lylat

[mild ether]

Show me a patch for the original rom and I will take look at it tomorrow.

Or GameShark codes whatever.

[autumn rampart]

Lylat? the german ver of Star Fox 😅

[inner garden]

mario 64 running great no freezes

[native mesa]

I wish. Someone posted it here at some point

[orchid nimbus]

Head of Marketing "Sterne Fux does not sound goed... let's call it something else"

[mild ether]

I have serious doubts about the n64 core drawing 60 frames a second.

[inner garden]

play fzero x

[autumn rampart]

😂

[remote hatch]

StarFox from SNES was called StarWing in europe 🙂

[autumn rampart]

👍

[mild ether]

In sm64. Results depends on what is drawing.

[weary palm]

https://starvox.de/

[odd vector]

my pal roms aren't booting anymore with the new build 💔

ah boot1 -.-

[remote hatch]

do you have boot1.rom = pal pif

?

[mild ether]

Prolly need to add the pal PIF.

[zenith orchid]

PAL games are higher res right?

[mild ether]

With caveats.

[odd vector]

noticed that starfox does not have these slowdowns on corneria anymore 😮

[zenith orchid]

Hmm, were there other improvements that he didn't mention?

[orchid nimbus]

the top line of the 1st line of text looks weird

[odd vector]

I'm really unable to find those pif's -.-

[wicked granite]

@odd vector look at the pinned messages ....

[worn delta]

Check the FAQ, is pinned

[mild ether]

You can easily find the Aleck 64 PIF and the rest are in the no intro set.

[worn delta]

Every time I go to CEX and see the prices of things now I die a little more inside...

Yes, that is £390 for the Pikachu N64

[odd vector]

got it 🙂 Vampier ist der Lebensretter

[wicked granite]

@odd vector then click on vampires faq and then on "rename the pif files"

[zinc dew]

good lord look at that pokemon XD

[mild ether]

Reminds me of the development hardware I could have bought before YouTubers.

[worn delta]

Yeah, I am sure my sister's old copy of XD is sitting in a cupboard at my parents house

[remote hatch]

Wave Race PAL looks weird

[native mesa]

You probably want your vertical resolution integer scaled

[zenith orchid]

that first logo looks so crisp

[remote hatch]

good point 🙂

[zinc dew]

Time to retire!

[stuck summit]

Imagine paying that much then looking up the disc on a lightbulb and it has disc rot lololol

[odd vector]

ok got the boot1.rom in games, but my PAL games do still not run. :/

at least no smash bros or f-zero

[zenith orchid]

and your database text is up to date?

[stray sphinx]

can you let me know where this setup guide is? I have everything, but do not know what the txt database is

[cerulean elk]

it will be out tomorrow

[zinc dew]

Sure thing! https://vampier.net/N64

oh you mean his video

[odd vector]

it recognises that it is pal

[cerulean elk]

right click on the text file, make sure the N in N64 is uppsercase

drop that in your N64 folder

[stray sphinx]

what text file? I have normpnt.rom, normslp.rom and boot.rom in there

[cerulean elk]

click the above link

[mortal apex]

I tried a 60 fps patch I found by Marcelo_20xx using Kaze's optimizations, didn't really work on mister. Here's the result I got:

[cerulean elk]

bout a third of the way down the page. Right click the yellow link, save as...make sure its N64-database.txt and NOT n64-database.txt

Capitalization matters

[stray sphinx]

oh crap it works

@cerulean elk thanks dude. You're a life saver

[zenith orchid]

it never hurts to check pinned messages

[cerulean elk]

lolol kidding

[zenith orchid]

more often than not, there's helpful stuff there

[daring meteor]

How do I enable PAL?

[remote hatch]

auto detect

you need boot1.rom

boot1.rom = pal

or in debug mode

[zenith orchid]

So which games are actually better to play in PAL?

[remote hatch]

you can switch

[daring meteor]

It's in NTSC for me

[inner garden]

Making some videos since I have a sick setup

Yoshi's Story

[daring meteor]

Can anyone give a 100% PAL game to test?

Like one that doesn't work on NTSC

[orchid nimbus]

yep

[viscid nebula]

alright so when's the psp core gonna be ready

[thick terrace]

havent found the pal pif yet. Is it hidden somewhere in the nointro set?

[daring meteor]

Yes

It's in no intro

[viscid nebula]

hidden? no. in the set? yes

[thick terrace]

where?

[viscid nebula]

the only .bin files in the set

one sec

[BIOS] Nintendo 64 - PIF (whatever)

there's 3 of em

[odd vector]

fixed it, i had the wrong pif file -.-

[daring meteor]

I forgot to update the core

Works now

[zenith orchid]

I got all mine from vimm's vault

[inner garden]

Beetle Adventure Racing

[mild ether]

Can't think of a non freedom units game to test.

[tropic sand]

I finally got 1080 working with the save state.

It has to match the rom name...

and be placed in save states folder...

[daring meteor]

I might fix the wavy lines

[safe robin]

The USA and JP pifs are the same right? So technically 99% should run with the 2 pifs we have now

[zenith orchid]

is 1080 snowboarding worth the trouble?

[mild ether]

Yes, and not just that the Brazil PIF works the same.

[cerulean elk]

mehhhhhh...gonna get some yes's and no's on that

[safe robin]

Just run Mario kart 64 and see how I played it as a kid and then feel bad for me 😆

[stray sphinx]

the core looks great with scanlines btw. Almost prefer this than the blurry look

[inner garden]

Beetle Adventure Racing

[tropic sand]

It plays really well

[cerulean elk]

plays great, but its not my fav game

[latent galleon]

what's up with the aleck bios? any downside? i couldn't get the github NTSC to work last time i tried

[zenith orchid]

does it beat snowboard kids?

[mild ether]

@safe robin slow motion? You got a handicap.

[stray sphinx]

robert is so fast, it feels like the core will be done by end of year. Wishful thinking, but this guy is a monster. Best patreon I have so far.

[orchid nimbus]

thanks @cerulean elk for taking credit for my work - you typical Youtuber reaction video youtuber you 😄

[daring meteor]

It should act the same as NTSC, you can hexedit it to NTSC if you want

[lilac scroll]

I’m so excited for when pilotwings finally works, for some reason that was the n64 game I wanted to try most

[mild ether]

We probably will have a fully working game by Christmas.

[zinc dew]

Please keep your expectations realistic

[inner garden]

Bomberman Hero

[latent galleon]

thanks @daring meteor , as long as it won't cause unexpected bugs

[desert crow]

you right clicked + saved the html on github. it would have worked if you did it on raw file. Someone had that problem the other day

[daring meteor]

If you want and are familier with Hex editing, if you edit the Aleck bios to 1984 bytes, you get NTSC bios

[latent galleon]

i was really happy to see robert with a lot of patreon supporters, since he never begs or plays games or tiers

[orchid nimbus]

2 days later we played Mario Kart 64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRmEb_kik-E (ignore the sound that was my bad)

[worn delta]

Oh, never knew there was a bonus disc, anything exclusive on there? They want £80 for Colosseum I saw as well

[stray sphinx]

I wish Robert could help out on the Saturn core after.

[mild ether]

He is a underestimation machine

[zinc dew]

only way you can legitimately get Jirachi

[mild ether]

Best way to be.

[inner garden]

Cruis N USA

[odd vector]

does someone else see an performance improvement in games?

[orchid nimbus]

things run what feels like full speed for me

[zinc dew]

lol that's another good one

[mild ether]

I hate the way original hardware looks so much It might as well be full speed.

[lilac scroll]

How fast we went from “n64 will never run on de10” to “can we get 60fps on slower games”

[desert crow]

probably the data cache which is now on by default.

[hollow rune]

I am running through PAL version right now trying to spot differences. So far nothing is of note

[lilac scroll]

I hope everyone is satisfied with performance exactly like real hardware because that’s all I want

[oblique remnant]

Yes destruction derby up to 30fps but still no car textures

[inner garden]

Diddy Kong Racing

[stray sphinx]

fzero looks and feels done

[daring meteor]

Try 1 of fixing the wavy lines, let's see

[odd vector]

i just noticed that corneria runs a lot smoother and faster now

[stray sphinx]

Not sure what other cores we could want after this. this era of consoles ps1, n64, saturn are my favorite. Ps2 and on feels too modern for fpga. I feel like I won't touch my retro consoles after this.

[chrome quest]

PAL Pokémon SNAP. As of the core a few days ago, loading with NTSC PIF gave a region error. So that should be a good test the PAL PIF is being used

[latent galleon]

i definitely did not, i even checked the hash

[inner garden]

F-Zero X 60 fps

[latent galleon]

but i'm sure it was some other user error

[cunning mantle]

For me it works in 50Hz with the vsync_adjust=1 setting, 2 goes out of sync and the default 0 (or you don't use vsync adjust at all) will always gives you 60Hz.

[daring meteor]

The HTotal value in the core is completly wrong

[hollow rune]

on ntsc?

[daring meteor]

At least I don't think its right

[orchid nimbus]

Mario Kart Amped up is just DD kong Racing with Nintendo cast?

[odd vector]

yes

[hollow rune]

trying it now

[languid dune]

No, it just has some tracks from Diddy Kong Racing. But the core is still Mario Kart 64.

It is shockingly good though.

[inner garden]

Kirby64 intro but game is black

[zealous hull]

Yeah, it's been like that for awhile.

[languid dune]

Dark Matter won.

[inner garden]

went back and added text to all the video posts because often you can't tell what they are without playing

[nova grotto]

How can I play RE2 without freezing ?

[safe robin]

Not really just one race track is from Diddy Kong

[orchid nimbus]

try patience 🙂

[vagrant ivy]

Turn the Heating up

[inner garden]

Majora's Mask

[chilly ember]

I heard Japanese version works aka biohazard but someone was saying it freezes consistently at police station

[inner garden]

Mischief Makers froze when I hit start

[viscid nebula]

This is a tool that will allow you to apply gameshark codes right to the rom (makes a duplicate named ROMNAME GG.z64) - this version cannot be found on rhdn

it was found via wayback machine