Nintendo 64

[zinc dew]

I’m so excited for that to be playable.

[viscid nebula]

this is like the starfox ex of smash bros

[thick terrace]

Are any n64 golf games as good as Neo Turf Masters?

[zinc dew]

No but the simulation golf games are pretty cool

Mario Golf is the best

[thick terrace]

does it run yet?

[zinc dew]

Better multiplayer than Neo Turf at least

[thick terrace]

Neo Turf Masters is my favorite neogeo game

[mortal panther]

Actual golf isn't as good as Neo Turf Masters.

[eternal island]

Going to open up smash bros and let it sit at the title screen for 30mins, and then in game for 30mins if it survives that

just want to see if it crashes

[orchid nimbus]

Stare into my soul

[thick terrace]

EEK!

[manic basin]

Every time... every time it creeps me out.

[dreamy ridge]

hellooough!

[severe rock]

Hey guys

Hope you are doing great

[mellow path]

I've been waiting for someone to make a golden tee core for MiSTer, one of those games my friends have always tried to jury-rig a cabinet for.

[thick terrace]

I built a neogeo bartop

[manic basin]

Any chance of dropping the save state? No biggie if not.

[orchid nimbus]

what's going on

that's some nightmare fuel

[storm void]

OOT and MQ share a save, maybe because they share a gameid CZLE?

[hexed knot]

They're just enjoying some Kokiri kush

[eternal island]

i'm telling ya, thats the crash demon

[tropic sand]

Anyone have a noface patch to fix this 😄

[ripe sentinel]

hey quick question. its jsut about 3pm here, should I keep working for the next coupld hours or play hookie for rest of hte day and get the core up adn running?

[thick terrace]

hooky

[eternal island]

keep working

[mortal panther]

Undercover boss. It's a trap!

[orchid nimbus]

the only flaw I can see with OOT is when I pick up hearts/sticks

transparancy is missing of the icons

[manic basin]

Yep, it's really solid otherwise.

[orchid nimbus]

other than that this flawless (with occasional sound hickup)

[mortal panther]

Not blurry enough...

[eternal island]

if you keep playing, it will eventually go to a black screen and crash

its random though

similar to mario 64

i got to just before gohma

[orchid nimbus]

thanks Game 🙂

self critique is good

but seriously - this looks great

[eternal island]

i did wait around a bit as well doing work

now im on a quest to find out if the random crash is many games, or just a few

on the 64, is where my quest begins

you might even call it

the 64 Quest

[severe rock]

How is the core running at full speed already? I would have guessed Robert would have gotten the core complete before turning up the overcloking on the cpu?

[pallid falcon]

One of the best sumo games lets you play as a moderator from this server

[sudden pumice]

Hell yeah. I was able to hit the shortcut all 3 times (no boost), so at least on this level and time trial, it’s full speed.

Definitely slow down on other levels, like a GP race on Toad’s Turnpike.

[thick terrace]

Some Japanese games seem odd to me

[mellow path]

Is it just me or is the AI just insanely cooked on Flower Cup 150cc

[dusty tusk]

Yeah, saves from master quest and original oot are identical. Everything is there in the rom just in different places

Mister saves based on rom name though I believe

[mellow path]

It feels like first place is a good quarter of the track away from 2nd by the third lap

[sudden pumice]

how so?

[mellow path]

but it doesn't really happen on later cups

[sudden pumice]

Stupid question maybe, but is this thing safe to use with the analog I/O board via RGB to my CRT?

[iron trail]

Interesting, on the stub build from yesterday I made it to adulthood. It's still running though I haven't played again today.

[cerulean elk]

Only stupid question is the one you don’t ask 🙂

[sudden pumice]

Good question. I only play solo vs. AI when I'm giving myself a 1 beer handicap (as in, finish my beer before the end of 3rd lap, don't drink & drive).

[cerulean elk]

Yes. You need to do some config but you can’t hurt anything

[sudden pumice]

Rubber banding AI in general for this game is insane.

[dusty tusk]

Any major break throughs in today's core from the last sram core?

[eternal island]

i only had it happen once. i'll play a bit more later. did you change settings at all for the cache?

[iron trail]

No, just left it on and otherwise defaults

[mortal apex]

Was it with data cache on?

[solemn kayak]

Works amazing, really impressed

[eternal island]

no change to cache delay?

0?

[iron trail]

I'll probably restart today and see how far I can get. No change to cache delay, left at default which I assume is 0

[eternal island]

i see there is autoincrement for savestate. i can play with that

[thick terrace]

my blood sugar is too high

[eternal island]

wonder if i just stumbled on a very rare crash

[iron trail]

But hey, even with crashes, we have saves now so any downside is greatly mitigated. Every single milestone I hit I thought SURELY it'll crash, but it never did.

[tulip coral]

What is this epiphany?!

[brisk drum]

Someone try rakuga kids!

[eternal island]

do save states work well enough?

or not at all?

[iron trail]

You can only load savestates, and only Robert can create them.

[eternal island]

ah i see

[iron trail]

So effectively, not at all. You can save in game now though for SRAM games like OoT MQ

[solemn kayak]

https://a.co/d/16YP9Gw

[tulip coral]

Oh nice - does the stick feel ok?

[mortal apex]

I made a patch to apply both Kaze's multiplayer splitscreen hack and the no face patch to super mario 64, should I upload it here?

[tulip coral]

I am in the market for something like this as it happens

[solemn kayak]

Saw some recommendations here yesterday. Yes the stick feels really good, and it comes with a replacement.

[languid dune]

It already is!

[zenith orchid]

is it just me or is Toad's Turnpike more congested in time trial?

[pallid falcon]

The best Mario game now works

[vague sun]

Testing out the new core with a real N64 controller via Reflex Adapt. Man the N64 feels so much better on a real controller

[cerulean elk]

Hell yeah

[mortal apex]

Framerate is very choppy, but I was impressed to see it running at all tbh 😅
edit: removed it, it contained a bunch of the actual rom sorry everyone 😦

[zealous hull]

immediate download

[blissful plaza]

I've tested today's build with OoT NGC until arrival at the Gorons Lair, no crash at all.
Just some troubles with the skybox, and other problems with transparencies already known.
Seems to be solid on my side.

[eternal island]

im giving it a shot again. i'm afking at the tree to see if it crashes

i wonder if i did something to cause the crash

[lavish umbra]

Smash Bros plays now, love it! Fun to go back after so much Ultimate

[solemn maple]

Completed the first two cups of Mario Kart - Amped up.

Cool hack and it ran really well on the mister 👌

[modern sleet]

It's needed still for RGB/YPbPr out, this does not fix the hblank issues or video timing.

[pallid falcon]

Completed my first game on the core - Fighters Destiny

[zealous hull]

I hex edited the intro face out of B3313, and it gets past the file select, but Mario just lies motionless on the ground and eventually it crashes. Which--considering the romhack--is pretty appropriate.

[prime kernel]

Do you have a version of the N64 core yet with S-Video support?

[paper orchid]

That can't get any better lmao

[broken creek]

Yeah, the 8bitdo arcade stick. Most agree it’s a good stick with one caveat, not enough room on the left side. Many have to adjust their play style.
A 3D printed extendo base to increase the surface on the left side would be cool (if possible) I imagine you Obi Wan something up. You’re our only hope. 🐸

[vapid moat]

Still hoping it's Q E S T 64 before anything Else

[rocky spindle]

When it looks as good as this I don’t care if it’s safe or not.

[vapid moat]

I've been using mine fine for a while with it, it's gonna be alright

[lament escarp]

But normal oot has the correct b button color!

[vapid moat]

Can we get this possibly pinned @zinc dew

[carmine kettle]

nope

[eternal island]

yeah it seems i definitely did something to cause the crash. just sitting here doesn't crash it like mario 64

wonder if i can get it to repeat

[zinc dew]

lol unfortunately I can't pin it but I love the meme

sorry

[fiery grove]

it's the usb controllers from amazon? if it is, how does it performs on MiSTer?

[vapid moat]

Who does pins here

Maybe we could ping 'em up

[pallid falcon]

Don't mind me, just watching a cut scene where someone answers the door naked

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah Robby why did you add F Zero but not Super Smash bros

To the "Playable with no major issues" list

[zinc dew]

oops, thanks for catching that

[pallid falcon]

Where is this list - I cannot see an option for that on the spreadsheet

[daring meteor]

Its in pins here

[zinc dew]

#1096015979055697940 message

[pallid falcon]

You can add Fighters Destiny to that list, I just completed it

[zinc dew]

It's seperate from the spreadsheet since it's easier to access for the average person. Spreadsheet is "the source of truth" but that's a resource for testers mainly.

[zinc dew]

Can you save in the game?

[quasi basalt]

Smash Remix runs beautifully on the latest test core. Saves are working as well!

[pallid falcon]

You can save game data

[zealous hull]

Thanks so much for mentioning this. Never heard of it before. I've been playing it for the past 10 minutes. It kicks ass.

[pallid falcon]

uses the pak, which isn't supported yet

[viscid nebula]

with Limonici's fixed unstable mister core it works great!

[zinc dew]

Ok, once it's supported I'll add it. Thanks for the heads-up!

[viscid nebula]

a little sensitive but all in all not bad

[zinc dew]

And once that list grows too large I'll remove it as a pin.

[fiery grove]

thanks, i'll get the 2 pack then, it's the saffun brand?

[ripe sentinel]

if i am getting a black screen on load.. thats when i need to adjust the cache offset?

[zealous hull]

Are you using the N64 database.txt file?

[ripe sentinel]

yea

i mean i dont know if im using it properly. but i have it in my games directory

[zealous hull]

What are you trying to play?

[pallid falcon]

I last played Hybrid Heaven over twenty years ago and it has matured to be the fine jank that it is

[ripe sentinel]

Mario Kart 64 (USA)

[zealous hull]

I'll dm you, see if we can't sort it out.

[stuck summit]

Great photos

[gritty current]

Do you need to re-pair every time you power on your MiSTer? A review mentions that issue for the PC

[solemn kayak]

Uhh, I dunno. I just turned it down after using it, so let's see

[fiery grove]

when i was a kid and played it blown my mind, the battle system it was a thing that i never experienced before, the level up of each part of the body, the wrestling moves

[solemn kayak]

Nope, paired right away

[gritty current]

Were you able to set the Home button to bring up the MiSTer menu ?

[solemn kayak]

Yeah, that worked out of the box

[gritty current]

nice... my only other question would be added lag

[dense wagon]

some supid quick questions... sooooo yeah slapped a test build on the mister

do i need anything else other than a game rom? like a system rom?

[daring meteor]

pif

[mortal apex]

It's kind of mind blowing how many quality romhacks have been / are being made for the n64 recently. I can't wait for this one to come out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJemoPKrEEg

[solemn kayak]

I was only sitting a few feet away from the receiver, and it was not perceivable very response analog on tiny movements

[gritty current]

Thanks. Hopefully we can get official measurements here: https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency

[dreamy ridge]

woah what is that thing

[ripe sentinel]

Thanks for getting me sorted out! gonna be fun weekend 😄

[solemn kayak]

Check the link a little bit below, it's awesome 😎

[dense wagon]

ah yeah k gotta find me the pifdata.bin etc

goes for a deep beaver on google

[supple musk]

I followed the quick start guide, and I can't get any games to boot. any tips?

[solemn kayak]

Make sure your boot.rom is correct, what's the size?

[supple musk]

renamed to boot.rom

it is in /games/N64

[weary palm]

You see that schampoo bottle?

[stark geyser]

Many games boot to black screen for me - which game(s) are you trying?

[solemn kayak]

Looks right

[supple musk]

i tried kirby 64 and pokemon snap

black screen on both

[zealous hull]

Did you compare hashes?

[supple musk]

on...the roms?

[zealous hull]

No, sorry. On the pif.

[mellow raft]

now more relevant

[supple musk]

SHA-1:
b7a0070cbe4b9bcaa08ec0b76b8c4955b2ae535a

[stark geyser]

Neither of those games work for me so likely they aren't bootable

[supple musk]

ok just wanted to make sure i wasn't doing anything wrong

[zealous hull]

I can boot both of them.

So I don't think that's it.

[stark geyser]

Try Mario Kart 64

[supple musk]

ok 1 sec

[stark geyser]

I'm on N64 23.09.07

[supple musk]

i'm on the one that released today

[mellow raft]

@supple musk Did you get the n64-database.txt?

[zealous hull]

Also make sure you're on the unstable MiSTer build.

[supple musk]

mario kart 64 boots!

[drowsy lantern]

Tetrisphere looks dull and simple at first, but it has so much depth once you start toying combos and chains. If you can’t reliably build up your multiplier counter to x20, then you’re not Tetrisphering 😅

[supple musk]

yes

[supple musk]

oh ok, I didn't upgrade to unstable. I'll do that

[zealous hull]

That should do it. @stark geyser I believe that could potentially help you as well.

Don't expect to play Kirby 64 yet. lol But you can at least see the title screen.

[severe rock]

But we still don't know for sure.... Right ? How fast is it running right now?

[supple musk]

how do I map the joystick?

it seems I can only map the d-pad.

[paper orchid]

Joystick auto-maps to the left stick for now IIRC

[daring meteor]

93MHz

[supple musk]

ah, I don't have a left stick. gotcha

[cerulean elk]

I’m sure it does. It’s a spatial awareness situation

I love me some Grand Master. I have II or III on Type X. Can’t remember now

[dense wagon]

yeah im also getting a blackscreen when trying to boot pretty much anything - i did find ... a bios... no idea if its the correct one tho so might be likely that

[paper orchid]

TGM3/TI is TTX

TGM2/TAP is the Psikyo SH2, TGM1 on the ZN-2

[dense wagon]

in my case its likely the mister version

as iv not updated for AAAAGERs

[paper orchid]

Also whee, my wireless N64 controller came today too

[stark geyser]

@supple musk I replaced the PIF from Vampier's site with the one on Vimm's and Kirby boots on 23.09.08 - but as @zealous hull said - its not playable. Black screen after creating a save file.

[little bane]

On everdrive this game need a special config to save

[severe rock]

No hacks to get there?

[daring meteor]

Its "overclocked" from like 85MHz

[dense wagon]

oh thats new - message - autodetect failed

[daring meteor]

What's your bios?

And do you have database?

[weary palm]

I thought of something. It must be the spinning N in OoT that crashes the core. The Gamecube versions of lacks that one thing.

[severe rock]

Interesting. So he did it so early in development without breaking a sweat or any major sacrifices. 100% sure now core will fit

Robert is a god. Nobody else could pull this off

[manic basin]

Well, I crossed the streams. I dug out my old Saturn 3D controller and tried it with this core over Reflex. It's one button short, sadly. But the stick is MILES better than a modern PS/XB style stick. It really helped a ton. Even if it was blasphemous.

[daring meteor]

Still TLB left but even without it its an accomplishment haha

[zealous hull]

I think there are still some concerns about all of it fitting (TLB). 😅 But what has been achieved is pure mastery.

[stuck summit]

Tribute 64 wireless. Better results on MiSTer (thanks to lemonici and markun's build) than on my actual N64, it'd be 100/-100 at every direction in that.

[weary palm]

Nice

[supple musk]

is that benchmark a homebrew app?

[stuck summit]

it looks a bit wonky due to the camera, but it's a perfect octagon

[severe rock]

That looks nice but wasn't the main concern on these modern sticks the deadzone?

[daring meteor]

If this isn't the Mister's magnum opus, I don't know what is

[zealous hull]

cdi

[stuck summit]

It's the sensitivity on diagonals actually. They'd overshoot the original N64 range and make games much harder to play

[paper orchid]

@torpid hamlet one tiny pixel

[stuck summit]

This can be corrected on MiSTer, it's awesome.

[daring meteor]

CDi

[severe rock]

But the hardest part is over, right ? At first he wasn't even sure the cpu speed was possible

[desert crow]

thought you may know something about oot, do they have decompilations of all the versions?

[zealous hull]

I shouldn't speak for Robert. But I believe there is some trepidation regarding TLB.

[stuck summit]

Yeah, controller test

[daring meteor]

Probably but we will see

[severe rock]

I have faith in Robert's mastery

[chrome quest]

Is that anaolg range fix incorporated into the main unstable branch?

[weary palm]

No, only one version is fully decompiled

[daring meteor]

I too, and I believe thus that the initial part would end up staying the hardest, but guess we will know whenever he finishes it

[supple musk]

turns out these two files are identical

[daring meteor]

Even if it was the 2048 byte pif it should still be the same

[sudden pumice]

No. That’s disabled by default right?

[stuck summit]

Don't think so. I had to get the build pinned at #controllers

once I replaced my unstable build with that the analog was perfect

[chrome quest]

Hopefully if testing goes well it will be added. I've found it fantastic too

[desert crow]

darn we could have compared things, maybe you can patch some of the earliest running code to jump to the main menu or something.

[lone geyser]

I'm actually just a little surprised it works that well for a controller that already scales back, unless it doesn't over USB

[eternal island]

imagine trying to get people to test the cdi...

[paper orchid]

Oh my god this controller feels so much better for S&P

[daring meteor]

Guys guys the Flowers of Robert Maplethrope is finally working with the new update

[weary palm]

I'll try to figure something out 😉

[eternal island]

gonna have to pay me i'm afraid. suffering and all that. it'll get worse the more it works

[stuck summit]

Yeah, it might not. I ran the controller test without the custom build and the ranges were at 120, so really high

over USB

[cerulean elk]

🤣

[dense wagon]

Oh

k mario kart working 😄

[lone geyser]

Ah, okay. 120 is near max

[dense wagon]

yay k im setup

[vapid hawk]

yeah i think the tribute64 wireless already scales its input when its connected to a real n64

it uses a whole other receiver thing on there, its the receivers that have all the brains with these things

[stuck summit]

Yeah. It was still a bit more sensitive even on N64 though as I mentioned, so it actually works better on MiSTer now lol

[dense wagon]

i have a crappy USB n64 controller haha hopefully functions

[compact depot]

I never imagined I would see OoT running on the MiSTer! Robert is truly a flip-flop wizard! 🧙‍♂️

[lone geyser]

Looks like we don't have numbers for the wireless Retrobit, but all their wireless controllers sit around 1 frame

Well...all but one

[compact depot]

How do I run this?

[lone geyser]

You need Robert's savestate

[manic basin]

You need to add a save state (search the thread for savestate and youll find it).

Yeah

[cerulean elk]

Seven minutes till I release a N64 video with a thumbnail that ties The Shawshank Redemption to Zelda 🤣

[stuck summit]

That reminds me I need to test it. Let's see

[lone geyser]

Performing latency tests is my love language

Sometimes I wonder if my mom ever cared about me, given how infrequently she tests new controllers

[mortal panther]

"Okay, this game works. That means they all do. Good job everyone! Moving on..."

[ripe sentinel]

is it still required to patch mario rom now that his face is back

[nova grotto]

Where can I get this homebrew ?

[nova grotto]

OoT for my is freezing did you use a patched game or something ?

[mortal panther]

Yes. The stretchy face was unrelated to the no face in-game.

[cerulean elk]

https://youtu.be/oSInthxpqMs

[manic basin]

If you search AO, you can find it in an Everdrive set.

[cerulean elk]

The SHAWSHANK of TIME baby

[stuck summit]

Same! It's not gonna be scientific since it's just a high speed camera test but it should give a good ballpark at least

[paper orchid]

Ok there we go

[ripe sentinel]

oh i thought thats what no-intro was.. i see now thanks!

[compact depot]

I’m used an unpatched GameCube edition from No-Intro

[latent galleon]

just don't ever test the N64 Switch controller, it will break too many hearts

[paper orchid]

Onto 2-2 without a death yet

[compact depot]

I didn’t play much yet

It might freeze at some point as well

[lone geyser]

I respect it, but if anyone with a Tribute64 and an Arduino wants to do some MF science, hmu

[nova grotto]

debug version ? or master quest ?

[mortal panther]

No-Intro is the name of those particular various ROM sets. It doesn't mean the games have been patched to not have intros. 😉

[paper orchid]

@visual wadi thank you for suggesting that controller

The analog stick is a minor gripe (it doesn't make contact with the gate so no detents) but this is so much nicer to play with

[compact depot]

No. Clean retail GameCube version

[visual wadi]

Yeah it’s pretty awesome. Been playing f-zero with it

[zinc dew]

thanks, disliked it

[north lagoon]

Is mario 64 booting without patch with last updates?

[cerulean elk]

I would expect nothing less

[paper orchid]

F-Zero will probably be on my list next

[zealous hull]

no

[stiff storm]

Where I can buy that Reflex Adapter?

[chrome quest]

Controller test program: #1096015979055697940 message
Save state: #1096015979055697940 message
Just load the savestate after opening the ".v64"

[cerulean elk]

you sleep with @zinc dew s mom a DOZEN times and somehow he gets mad

I guess 11 is the max everyone!

[lone geyser]

Has anyone tested the modernized version with the latest core?

This guy
https://github.com/wermipls/mimi

[ripe sentinel]

is there a recommended mario patch that does have all doors unlocked?

[manic basin]

https://www.misteraddons.com

It's out of stock currently though.

[devout leaf]

The flickering bottom lol

[elfin depot]

If it's JUST for N64 there is a SNAX 64 in the works as well

[supple musk]

https://vampier.net/N64/patches/sm64.us.noface.unlocked.bps patch to a US rom

[weary palm]

all doors and then some 🙂

[manic basin]

So most games filter properly. But Dezaemon 3D and Taz don't. So it just shoots my controls to the other side if I go over the 70% press line.

[devout leaf]

Sounds like a built in feature to me. Someone should call marketing.

[chrome quest]

Just tried. No auto-detect. Nothing with CIC 6101 or 6102. Not sure if there is a general one to use for Homebrew or not?

[zinc dew]

thanks @chrome quest , good post that covers what you need to do.

Ok going to re-arrange pins, don't mind me

[worn delta]

Wow, is that in the translated version?

[polar spoke]

Hey guys I’m having a hard time getting the core to boot. Nothing shows up after the toms load. I downloaded the ntsc pif from vampires website and changed it to boot.rom and everything. Can I get a little help?

[manic basin]

Yes, but I did the text. He normally just says 'they can't buy a house.'

[sudden pumice]

Did you run update_all followed by update_n64?

[polar spoke]

I did

[sudden pumice]

Also: damn, it just works with my CRT

[sudden pumice]

I’m using a Sony PVM via RGB

[cerulean elk]

ooh what PVM?

[sudden pumice]

Enabled data cache and Mario Kart 64 is seemingly flawless except for some pops and crackles

[sudden pumice]

OEV203

[zinc dew]

updated latest build pin

[polar spoke]

Is it maybe not updating to the unstable mister main?

[cerulean elk]

V similar to my setup

[sudden pumice]

Did you run update_all again later?

What about using a different INI? Is it possible it’s booting the game but not displaying?

Or maybe it’s your ROM

I play MK64 on real hardware for hours every week. Having it on MiSTer is amazing.

[polar spoke]

Ooooo do I need to switch to mister alt in the main menu?

[sudden pumice]

Not necessarily.

[lone geyser]

No, that changes your .ini

[sudden pumice]

I’m just saying that maybe the N64 core doesn’t like whatever custom stuff you might have in your INI

Just like how Jotego cores won’t play nice with certain vscale modes.

[polar spoke]

It’s pretty standard. I’m not running rgb or anything. Just hdmi

[sudden pumice]

Most likely the issue is your ROM, assuming you did everything else right.

What game?

[polar spoke]

Any game

I’m also just using No into Roms. But you HAVE to use the patched game roms for it to work at all?

[sudden pumice]

---------       ----                                                                   ----
SHA256          D6B8538DD63F0132ECB2856E7D32816ED3C30E3E479AECD23CF83FB6BA17A5DA       M:\N64\Mario Kart 64 (USA).z64

No Intro Big Endian

Check the SHA256 hash on yours, and if it's different... then you might have a bad ROM.

[daring meteor]

Check pif

[sudden pumice]

Well they said they got their PIF from the Vampier link... which is where I got mine.

assuming you grabbed the same pif.ntsc.rom as I did, and renamed it to boot.rom and put it in the right folder along with the N64-database.txt file

[daring meteor]

Some got it wrong because they right clicked and saved html

[sudden pumice]

you should be able to play the same ROM as I

Ah yeah

[daring meteor]

The PIF should be 1984 bytes

[cerulean elk]

lol tempting fate here

[sudden pumice]

yeah they list the checksum right on the page

[ripe sentinel]

thats exactly what i did :🤦:

[daring meteor]

Exactly

[sudden pumice]

---------       ----                                                                   ----
SHA256          FA7B09795EF1E54461E59F6F2D902368133E3F1CD980E34383E6A780D74BEFFD       M:\N64\boot.rom```

[lone geyser]

It's like how George Lucas gave us both the original trilogy and the prequels

[cerulean elk]

the pendulum can swing hard in both directions lol

[sudden pumice]

The Last Jedi is the second or third-best Star Wars film, and it would have been the 2nd best if not for the weird pacing on the casino planet.

[stuck summit]

Sooo consistently, at 240fps, I get a response within 6 frames on a CRT. Divide that by 4 and it's 1.5 frames, or ~24ms.That's what you'd expect, 16ms for the console + 8ms for response on the middle of the screen.

My daemonbite adapters respond in 7 frames on my OLED TV. About 1.75 frames, or 28ms. 16ms from MiSTer, between 3-5ms from the TV in Boost mode, and 1ms from the adapter. Again, it's what you'd expect

Using that as a reference, the Tribute responds in 10 frames, so that's quite a bit laggier. That's gonna range in the 40ms. Subtracting from the daemonbite results It's gonna be about 12ms. Hard to pin down without a more accurate test, but it seems to add a bit shy of a full frame of lag. So pretty close to the other Retrobit wireless controllers I guess

[sudden pumice]

I dare say it might have been the best if they just let Rian Johnson cook for Episode 9 as well

@stuck summit you're using a Tribute64 as well? That's what I'm playing with now

[stuck summit]

Yeah

[sudden pumice]

Pretty much the only N64 controller I've been using for the last couple of years.

Wired, I should say.

[chrome quest]

Playing this OOT version. Only played 3DS before. What is this "L targeting". Lies videogame! Lies!

[sudden pumice]

I have one of the wireless models but it's very laggy feeling.

[lone geyser]

That's what the biz calls Barely Good Enough™

[sudden pumice]

@polar spoke btw if you're not sure how to check the hash on your files, I'm just using PowerShell

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsoft.powershell.utility/get-filehash?view=powershell-7.3

[polar spoke]

Thanks @sudden pumice & @daring meteor !!! It was that pif rom I wasn’t getting the whole 1984 bytes!!!

[stuck summit]

Yeah, I was gonna say. It's definitely laggier. Kind of want a wired one now

[daring meteor]

The whole? Usually its the opposite way around haha

[sudden pumice]

Dude you need all 1984 of them!!!!

[stuck summit]

Yeah, N64 games are laggier by default (at least all the ones that run at less than 30fps) so I guess it's fine. Sadly the wireless version doesn't have a wired mode

[polar spoke]

It was only getting like 124 of them

[sudden pumice]

Anyways I'm off to finish the Mushroom Cup. I am inviting friends over and I have a fridge full of Natty Light, so we're gonig to put Robert's Mario Kart 64 core to the test tonight 😉

I actually bought 2 separate S-Video cables for my N64 so I could easily switch between RT5X and my PVM, but now I don't need to

[lone geyser]

Lag doesn't overlap, it's additive, so one source being high is usually a good reason to want the rest to be low

[stuck summit]

yeah, I'm just coping at this point but it is what it is lol

[ripe sentinel]

just started playing m64, are there some common bugs to avoid? (i assume there are many still) but like i just hardlocked after getting chased by an bombobom - others like that to avoid?

[dense wagon]

Any tips for controller setup I do have a cheap USB n64 controller that works quite well for emulators, tried tonget things setup but the Mister interface seems to not want to accept inputs when trying to define it

[lone geyser]

Doesn't accept inputs in main menu or in N64 menu?

[sudden pumice]

MisterAddons Reflex Adapt + N64 dongle + N64 controller of choice (I like Retro-bit Tribute64, widely available in the US).

Dunno what the lag is on the Tribute64 USB models, but unfortunately those USB models are mostly sold out.

[stuck summit]

By the way I bought some Pi Pico boards to make these adapters https://github.com/DavidPagels/retro-pico-switch
Never heard of them before. Hopefully they're as good as daemonbite or ardwiino

[chrome quest]

Manually set Cache Delay to 10 in the settings, reduces but doesn't eliminate the crashes

[sudden pumice]

I know this is going to be down to aesthetics but I think I prefer texture filtering ON for MK64. The text starts to look really chunky and illegible without it.

Not that I have to do a ton of reading in MK64, but

[ripe sentinel]

ahhhhh awesome. thanks

[native mesa]

Well yeah it was designed with it in mind. I don't like how it affects portraits though

[polar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/working-anakin-starwars-gif-4653092

Community is soooo wizard!!

[vague sun]

Someone have the list of N64 games requiring TLB handy?

I'm updating the spreadsheet

[chrome quest]

I would like to sadly report "Star Wars Episode 1 - Racer" is in fact not working..... Yet.
(Well done getting the core running though! Hope you enjoy it. Great times)

[ripe sentinel]

what TLB?

[orchid nimbus]

this jpg is getting worse and worse to read 😄

[polar spoke]

@chrome quest I know….I tried…

[daring meteor]

Good to check that one for TLB

[hexed knot]

http://en64.shoutwiki.com/wiki/N64_TLB

[chrome quest]

Is there doubt it may be TLB? I do also test every odd core. Perhaps wasting my time then

[daring meteor]

There is doubt

Thats why I say, good to check

Project 64 can toggle TLB

[cerulean elk]

Take that @zinc dew

[thorn flax]

neat

[vague sun]

Updated N64 sheet. About to go live in 10-20 and update the list

[orchid nimbus]

Armorines - TLB Conker's Bad Furday - TLB FIFI soccer 64 (USA) (en,fr,de) - TLB Gauntlet legends (USA) - TLB Goldeneye 007 (USA) - TLB Indiana jones and the ingernal machine (USA) - TLB Jeremy mcgrath supercross 2000 (usa) - TLB Monaco grand prix (USA) - TLB NBA jam 2000 (USA) - TLB NFL Quarterback club 99 (usa) - TLB Paper Mario (USA) - TLB Perfect dark (USA) - TLB Shadow man (USA) - TLB Suth park (USA) - TLB Star Wars Episode I - battle for naboo (USA)- TLB Turok - Rage Wars (USA) - TLB Turok 2 - Seeds of Evil (USA) - TLB

Anything else? I'll add this to the FAQ

[hollow rune]

fighting the good fight @fair stump

[thorn flax]

it's the only zelda file I can make boot. but it was the very first zelda game I ever played.

majoras mask (pal) on the gamecube compilation disk

went thru all the master quest files but all were a non-starter

[solemn kayak]

Realized I had to enable data cache, and now Mario 64 is running at perfect speed.. Except I'm getting a freeze while racing the turtle up the mountain :/

[chrome quest]

The NTSC GameCube version will also boot, perhaps others

[covert bough]

wait, widescreen?

[solemn kayak]

Did a search and seeing data cache delay to 10 , is that something I can leave on with other games , or disable it when not needed ?

[fair stump]

no u

[chilly ember]

True :p

[orchid nimbus]

whoops

need to move S-RAM

😄

and done

[compact depot]

Mini TLB wen

[fair stump]

@hollow rune still no mystical ninja for you

[thorn flax]

no, worse. pal

[chrome quest]

Hell yeah PAL! One to add to features not (yet) supported maybe. PAL timing

[orchid nimbus]

@chrome quest good call

there final list - all cleaned up

[hollow rune]

🎵 So I drive home alone, as I turn out the light
I'll put his picture down and maybe get some sleep tonight🎵

[orchid nimbus]

🎵 here i am home, drinking alone, empty bottle in my hand 🎵

[solemn kayak]

nevermind, it doesn't save the data cache settings anyway

[orchid nimbus]

🎵Don't even try to sort out the ROMs
It's worse to try to understand 🎵

[hollow rune]

All these musicians feeling feels not being able to play some Goemon

[orchid nimbus]

it's actually from a song called "Unsuccessfully Coping with the Natural Beauty of Infidelity" by Type O Negative

[hollow rune]

i had looked it up. Never heard of them

[split lynx]

RIP Peter Steele

[orchid nimbus]

that's ok - I'm on the outside of society with my music taste

Yup - every time I had the chance to see them I was like... nah next time

[inner garden]

Is there a good reason my Mario 64 rom doesn’t get passed It’s a me, Mario?

[hollow rune]

TLB

it wont until that part is implemented

[marble cargo]

The core can't render the face, so you'll need a patch to bypass it.

[solemn kayak]

I used the no face patch, and the online ips patcher link from the vampier FAQ to get into Mario 64

[hollow rune]

that's why there is a patch that let's you skip it

[inner garden]

got it

thanks

[vague sun]

LIVE NOW checking out the N64 beta core update 20230908 on the #MiSTerFPGA! Mario has eyes! Way more Zelda! Testing MisterAddOns Reflex Adapt! - https://twitch.tv/owlnonymous

[mild finch]

What's the original purpose of the TLB?

[hollow rune]

It is virtual memory

[compact depot]

As per Robert it’s just a phone book

[hollow rune]

like a way to store short cuts to certain addresses

[mild finch]

Thanks, virtual memory is clear to me.

[hollow rune]

if you search FPGAzumSpass has a rockin explanation

[fair stump]

Think of Jim Croce's song Operator. Basically that

[hollow rune]

But's that not the way it feels.

[mild finch]

You mean here on discord?

[hollow rune]

yes

[mild finch]

I'll try to find it, thanks

[hollow rune]

someone needs to oil the doors in Brian's world

[sudden pumice]

Lord how did this core come together so quickly?

[zinc dew]

An extremely talented individual plus a loving community that's been cheering him on from the beginning.

[sudden pumice]

I swear I was watching videos of a faceless Mario and black squares racing each other just last week

[hollow rune]

it was the one instance of good German customer service

[sudden pumice]

I just subbed to Robert’s Patreon.

I’m blown away

[zinc dew]

https://www.patreon.com/FPGAzumSpass/posts

[sudden pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

[hollow rune]

In Brian 64 what is like the best thing to start with upgrading?

[mortal apex]

water gives you access to a healing spell, i think at level 7 or something. Its very useful 🙂

[hollow rune]

Right now I am seeing if I crash within 20 or so minutes. but in the future that will be very helpful

[quaint rune]

The tomato lettuce and bacon

[mortal apex]

I got about half an hour into the game before it crashed, on a core from last week iirc:

[hollow rune]

yeah, I saw your note

Do you think it was the time or something about where you were?

[rocky spindle]

Can’t wait to get this installed into one of my N64 pads. Then I just need the SNAC adapter for mission complete.

[shrewd peak]

is that the metal stick?

[thorny marten]

Just figuring out the gamecube conversions of OOT work

[rocky spindle]

Not yet, more importantly it’s the bowl that the bottom of the stick grinds against usually.

The bowl is usually the first thing to fail on N64 control stick modules.

[mortal apex]

I think it was random a bit like in mario 64 but I don't know, only made one attempt. I didn't feel like trying again until saving is possible haha

[hollow rune]

totally get that

[shrewd peak]

oh cool, didnt know those existed

whered you get it?

[stoic parcel]

\o/

[rocky spindle]

I’ve got bronze gears in production. I need to snag a couple of steel sticks next.

[chilly ember]

Good luck lol

[rocky spindle]

TaoStyx64.com

[quaint rune]

I need to try me that

[weary palm]

Can someone try this patch on NTSC OoT 1.0? 🙂

[hollow rune]

I can do it. What does it do?

[marble cargo]

Earth for damage, Water for healing. If you can get the magic shield ability, you basically become invincible since every enemy only uses magic.

[weary palm]

It skips the spinning N. Doesn't seem to help, though.

sad

[hollow rune]

it was a good theory, given that was a difference between the two

[thorny marten]

The gamecube conversion of oot work

[chilly ember]

I've been playing Zelda the sealed palace for like 10 mins without a crash on today's build

[orchid nimbus]

That’s ancient around here

[hollow rune]

but I get wanting to wait for controller pak to really test it

[devout leaf]

I can’t get on my mister for over a week and I’m curious how many builds I’ll miss lol

[quaint rune]

What makes the GameCube version of oot special that it will work with the current build instead of the regular

[hollow rune]

@weary palm thought it might be the spinning n64 logo, but apparently not

[weary palm]

It was fun wasting some time, though 😉

[hollow rune]

A game of lordly calibur just booted

[mortal apex]

Yep, FPGAzumSpass time is something else. Didn't post it at the time cuz I forgot, then it quickly became irrelevant 😅

[weary palm]

Wtf. Lodgenet version of OoT works too

[hollow rune]

it crashed on title screen though

[weary palm]

WITH the spinning N

[zenith orchid]

You're still calling it a beta? c'mon man, it was funny the first couple times 🤣

[topaz otter]

We're past beta now and headed to gamma

[quaint rune]

RAWWWWWR

[topaz otter]

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face by pharoah man

[weary palm]

Craaaash 😉

[quaint rune]

Nice to see the title screen though.

[manic basin]

Do you still hear the voice of the devil when it does?

[warped cobalt]

Are you all playing with Data Cache ON? Default is turned OFF, but ON seems to run way better.

[quaint rune]

Always on now

[weary palm]

Craaaash 😉

[chilly ember]

Oh cool to see that getting in game

[weary palm]

Super cool. I really like that game.

[cerulean elk]

They aren’t wrong 🤣

[weary palm]

Even own a cartridge

What version of the deku tree? The one in Wind Waker looks weird.

[manic basin]

Dekutreedus

[delicate hearth]

Does anyone else have the issue where all games load to a black screen, even known working games?

I'm loading my games from a network share, is that not supported yet?

[manic basin]

I'm using network.

[delicate hearth]

Weird, is no one else seeing this issue?

I've tried about 2 dozen games and none of them load

[weary palm]

Do you have a good boot.rom?

[delicate hearth]

wait, you need a bios for the N64 core?

[weary palm]

Yes

[delicate hearth]

Whoops lol, sorry, I've never needed a BIOS for an N64 emulator, so the possibility totally slipped my mind ;;^^

Does it just need to be in the roms directory?

[weary palm]

Correctomundo

[delicate hearth]

Is there a way to dump it myself using an everdrive? I can't find a bios download through a cursory search on Google

[topaz otter]

Shrek?

[weary palm]

Donkey?

[topaz otter]

Remember when they put all of shrek on a gba cart

Pepperidge farm remembers

[weary palm]

It's the best copy.

[delicate hearth]

okay yeah I can't find a BIOS for the N64 anywhere >.>

[chilly ember]

I heard the aleck 64 pif works

[delicate hearth]

wait... you mean i can just use a random game and rename it as boot.rom?

Is there a guide for this?

[languid dune]

I've heard that there is an archive out there that needs no introduction.

nudge nudge wink wink

[weary palm]

Speaking of Shrek, rip Steve Harwell 😢

@delicate hearth PM

[manic basin]

https://vampier.net/N64/

It covers pif with a link and rename instrucstions.

It's pinned at the top of the channel as well.

[topaz otter]

Hard liquor sales will never recover

[quaint rune]

If link isn’t a kokiri where come from he did ? How did he end up in koko 🤔 ?

[orchid nimbus]

Deka deez nutts

[topaz otter]

I distictly remember him being left in the forest as a baby

[delicate hearth]

Thank you! I put the file in my N64 roms directory, but I still get a black screen

[manic basin]

And renamed it? And updated to unstable MiSTer and downloaded the DB file?

[delicate hearth]

yep, renamed it, copied it in, and got the latest mister file just now, too

[manic basin]

When you saved the PIF did you right-click, save as? Because on Github that will get you an HTML file.

You need to go to raw and download.

[orchid nimbus]

Read instructions/ there is even an TLDR version

[fiery grove]

looks like a wooden shrek

[orchid nimbus]

Shriek

[chilly ember]

He just wants link out of his swamp

[orchid nimbus]

None of this tough

[delicate hearth]

Link after robbing an orchestra

[orchid nimbus]

Or a salesman

[fiery grove]

masks are overrated, ocarinas are the real deal

[languid dune]

Or a creepy hoarder of ocarinas.

[orchid nimbus]

Zelda Ocarina of Crime

[fiery grove]

that happens because....?

it's an anti piracy check?

of the system

[marble cargo]

Now make Link play all the ocarinas at the same time.

[chilly ember]

It can't detect the flash save

[fiery grove]

related to the CIC or something?

oh

[chilly ember]

You can get same glitch on console if you tilt cartridge

http://www.jaytheham.com/zcw/Majora's_Mask_Crooked_Cartridge_-_48_Ocarinas

[marble cargo]

Yeah we need a cartridge tilt feature so Mario looks like a pile of flesh and the game screeches in agony.

[deep ore]

mm my patched mario still won’t load, weird

[fiery grove]

oh that explains the death at the beginning

[chilly ember]

I agree haha :p and i mentioned having cartridge tilt would be cool a few days ago. I know some emulators have the feature

[rose elbow]

playing around with the new build on my lil sony CRT (haven't turned it on in a while + i understand n64 isn't totally set up yet for that yet?) .. but still , holy cow ! :-) the responsiveness and speed of it all is making me utter explicits out loud no joke LOL this stuff is incredible :-)

[zealous hull]

Wait, you can get past the title screen?

[topaz otter]

You guys are going to make me get the mister out of the box arent you

[rose elbow]

the mister's in a box?? you moving?

not too sure what your circumstance is but yes get the mister out of the box :D

[chilly ember]

I keep my consoles in a box but not my mister

[rose elbow]

i had to dig around to find my VGA>SCART cable but otherwise yeah the mister was all out

[topaz otter]

Just didnt have time to play with it, the crt weighs too much to keep on the table

[rose elbow]

oh yes i understand!!

[topaz otter]

I got yelled at by my brother for making a mess of cables everywhere🫣

[weary palm]

It's the Lodgenet version.

[rose elbow]

i could take a picture of what's going on behind my tv cabinet in terms of cables but i'm prety sure i'll get permabanned off the internet or something

i'm trying to think back when/how i last played Shadows of the Empire.. it wasn't on Wii VC.. maybe Wii Homebrew? PC emulator?

i think the speed and responsiveness of this game is sending me for a spin coz i dont remember it being this good at all

it's like getting a mister for the first again lool

[topaz otter]

Mister has to be as close to real hardware as it gets, its hard to describe to someone the responsiveness of something like mario64 when its that close to the metal

[fair stump]

Just wait till you get to the speederbike level 🤣

I'm wondering if that's actually running too fast

[rose elbow]

i tried getting past hoth a few builds back and... couldn't. so i'm playing on Easy atm LOL

maybe!

it's sooo smooth LOL

[topaz otter]

I wonder if someday someone will use the mario source code project to natively port it to mister

[fair stump]

The speederbike level is like super uncontrollable to the point it must be. Kinda like one of the wwe games

[rose elbow]

did u cheat to get there?

[fair stump]

I played through the whole game on a build that ran at 9 fps 🤣

[rose elbow]

hahahaha

[fair stump]

On easy

[quick arch]

You mean working on ARM side ?

[topaz otter]

Isnt there already an arm port

[quick arch]

I don't know if it existed. I'm just trying to understand your think regarding to port on mister

[robust trout]

Is there a 60fps hack for SM64 on OG HW?

[dense wagon]

intesrestingly - i have my n64 style USB controller working... but oddly the analog stick is only registering left and right lol

[rose elbow]

have you mapped the sticks in the main MiSTer menu, define joystick option?

is that what you're referring to?

i also just remembered.. i owned Shadows of the Emipre PC version which is probably contributing to my muddled up memories on how this game originally ran

[dense wagon]

oh haha ok so

something a bit weird in that in the tester... x is showing as left analogue... y is right analog haha that is the strangest thing

let me faff see if i can fix it lol

funny part is that i always run through the define buttons for every new controller i do not recall purposly messing it up like that haha

[rose elbow]

i just know analogue stick in particular is a little different to the other buttons. you can't map the joystick in the n64 core settings. you have to back out to the main MiSTer menu and navigate to "Define Joystick buttons" and make sure the left and right sticks are defined on this screen first. The N64 core automatically maps the controllers Left Joystick to the N64 joystick.

[celest timber]

was smash playable before ? cuz seems like it iis now

[chilly ember]

It is

Also smash remix

[zinc dew]

Smash Remix won’t load for me : (

[quaint rune]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[rose elbow]

i dunno if that's specific rom thing? i havent managed to get diddy kong racing for example

[chilly ember]

Are you on 6103 cic?

[rose elbow]

this is soooo good lol

[chilly ember]

Database probably not detecting game so doesn't choose it.

[zinc dew]

Ohhhh

[chilly ember]

I think yxkalle has updated database but i don't know if smash remix was added

[inner garden]

What is the reason you can only play F-Zero X iQue version?

[quaint rune]

its working fine for me, what are you doing wrong

GIMME YO LUNCH MONEY

[marble cargo]

Load Super Smash Bros. first, then load Smash Remix separately.

[dense wagon]

yeah lol this controller is still doing the left stick right stick thing for a single stick

even when i say the 2nd pad is undefined

[rich delta]

More broadly for virtual memory I like to think of it that I have an ordinary book that has numbered pages of text in it. You on the other hand have a magic book whose pages are empty but can be mapped to any page in my book. When you want to read a page you send me the page number. I look up what page that page maps to in my ordinary book in a big (slow) table and then once I find it I make that page appear in your book at the page number you gave. (TLB is just the last 32 page numbers that I mapped and is stored in fast memory for faster look up.)

[dense wagon]

OK got it - but tahts super weird i went through the menu - said left pad was undefined... then mapped the buttons, and pressed undefined for everything, and it asked me about the left analogue stick again, so i did the usual tilt define and... in the input tester... it works properly

yep working... thats soso weird

[hexed knot]

Tried the MM randomizer. It "randomized" all Ocarinas, and had a lovely penchant for killing Link when he exited door open or talking cinema scenes. Got in a great loop where the Great Fairy would pop up, heal Link, and he'd keel over and die a couple seconds later.

[zinc dew]

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!

[zinc dew]

That did it, thank you!

@stoic parcel they finally improved Mischief Makers by making it 3D

[woven olive]

Who is in charge of the N64-Database?

[orchid nimbus]

State your concern

[zinc dew]

Wow, Conker’s Bad Fur Day is working!

[woven olive]

Just wanted to see how the hash is calculated and possibly add some entries.

nm

[quick arch]

the version 1.4.1 is existed for information

[woven olive]

I see it in the faq now

[zinc dew]

Ohhhh, thanks for the info!

It’s hilarious to go from Smash to Remix LMAO

[rose elbow]

did Shadows of the empire always control this wildly omg

lol

[stoic parcel]

[rose elbow]

ohh that reminds me theres the bangai game on n64

[deft tree]

guess i might have to actually set up the core now

[cerulean elk]

That’s what you get for all the shit talking!

[deft tree]

i remember when it first came out it gatekept the hell out of like half of my classmates because they couldn't trip the AT-ATs with the snowspeeder since no one understood how to move in 3d

[rose elbow]

i'll need to boot up the n64 and just double check, its mostly just the controller sensitivity on the joystick seems really high

(but also it might just be the game being a bit wild)

[cerulean elk]

The sense of loss is real

[rose elbow]

i was half wondering if robert knew what was holding back the face from displaying and keeping it aside for the final big update LOL

obviously woulda been silly but funny if the last update was "mario now has a face"

not that i know anything about anything but i found it really odd that mario had no face while peach and lakitu both had blinking sprites on their faces. seemed so specific

[cerulean elk]

Hey it’s the Kacho!

Love that show. Well the translated ones that exist. A lot seemed to have been purged from YT sadly

[rose elbow]

oh yeah

[stoic parcel]

The high seas await

[rose elbow]

high seas referring to the most obvious site>

[stone pilot]

The one where he plays Tokimeki Memorial

[rose elbow]

finding a good resource for rips with subtitles seems so scattershot

[stone pilot]

||and wins Shiori's heart on the first try because he's a married man||

[deft tree]

something awful has a sub group for almost every ep of it

[rose elbow]

oooh will look

[deft tree]

and there was a 24/7 twitch channel for a while

[rose elbow]

i used to hang out in that twitch chat a bit when i worked shift work shitty hours

was a godsend lol

[stone pilot]

Does F-Zero X (USA) still not work - just iQue?

[zinc dew]

@cerulean elk tell me a joke

[cerulean elk]

Just go look in the mirror

[rose elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/burned-food-wtf-gif-22978287

[zinc dew]

lol I tried to play Pokémon snap and got that screen

[rose elbow]

weird bug !

[cerulean elk]

Lol I give a point for effort

[zinc dew]

[ruby falcon]

Love GamecenterCX

[rose elbow]

Kacho............. ON!!!!

[zinc dew]

GameCenter CX isn’t good

[rose elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/game-center-cx-gccx-give-up-arino-no-mas-gif-20375027

[zinc dew]

it’s freaking amazing

[stoic parcel]

Abunai

[dreamy ridge]

when we see slowdown in mario 64 when a lot is going on on-screen, is that because some graphical operation isn't implemented yet and is bogging down the speed?

[zinc dew]

Maybe, need to compare to real hardware to be sure

[dreamy ridge]

i'm shocked that with how much left there still is to do how spectacularly it's working already

[runic flax]

Man, I still can't believe this core. I just played smash for like an hour. Im alot worse at it than I used to be, but this is such a blast.

[stone pilot]

yeah Mario 64 is definitely not immune to slowing down on the console

[stone pilot]

Smash still won't load for me. Not sure what's up

[latent galleon]

i don't think there's any indication that the core will end up anything but full speed when it's done...and yeah it's wild to see an N64 on mister

[dense wagon]

which version of smash?/core as yeah no luck here haha

[brisk drum]

Lego racers 64 is kinda dope

[rose elbow]

lego racers is really dope!!! awesome soundtrack, fun kart racer

had the pc version as a kid

[runic flax]

I have an old smokemonster rompack for the everdrive that Ive been using

[zinc dew]

Yeah I’m convinced this will be just about perfect

[dreamy ridge]

yeah i wasn't complaining...just interested in the inner workings as a (non-fpga) software engineer 😄

[cerulean elk]

Is there a good site to watch them? I can never find them

[zinc dew]

Definitely not getting a N64 2X core though lol

[cerulean elk]

Oh now you’ve pissed me off

[ruby falcon]

I mostly just watched them on Youtube

[brisk drum]

Working perfect rn as far as I could tell

[dreamy ridge]

i bet it'll happen in our lifetime lol

[cerulean elk]

Me too but seems like a lot of the unofficial translations have been removed

[ruby falcon]

not sure if they were deleted

ah yeah, it was years ago

[topaz otter]

Im saying the same way people are putting arcade boards on mister, are they emulated or are they native ports

[latent galleon]

@dreamy ridge things are just still kinda weird right now despite some stuff running great...like i had an endlessly looping menu in beetle adventure racing today which was strange...just kept cycling to select a car or whatever

[rose elbow]

yeah there has to be a nerd dwelling somewhere with a good up to date catalogue of the fan subs

if anyone knows, i would love to know !!!

[dreamy ridge]

lmao i hit that same bug last week. i never played that game back in the late 90s, can't wait

[rose elbow]

always gotta love when companise hold an iron fist over copyright rights over .. something thats not even available in english or marketed or distributed outside of japan 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

[brisk drum]

Uhhh .. controls do not respond at all in jeopardy .. game seems to be running fine

[cerulean elk]

Ok o like you again

[rose elbow]

lovely !!! @zinc dew

[quick arch]

The MiSTer project proposed cores of the console, computer or Arcade PCB and the game running on it. It is FPGA Emulation.

[brisk drum]

Dammmmm Robby there he goes flexxin on the discord again

[zinc dew]

I bought those when they came out too. Love GCCX

[brisk drum]

Who doesn’t …

[neat sierra]

what is a 'skill issue'?

[rose elbow]

lool

im just so happy to be spending a saturday morning .. playing Shadows of the empire on the mister, on crt.. with wireless NSO N64 controller ahaha

[brisk drum]

Doyle why are you such a bully !?

[rose elbow]

like what the heck

[cerulean elk]

@brisk drum it just doesn’t respond because your smooth brain doesn’t understand the questions

[brisk drum]

Typical edgy sega nerd

[cerulean elk]

Brain as smooth as a dolphins back

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/sheit-well-damn-shoot-gif-14886314

[rose elbow]

wheel of fortune on sega cd is better anyway just play that duh

[brisk drum]

My iq is high af

[latent galleon]

i've played more than one full game of sega cd wheel of fortune, because that game is hilarious

[torpid hamlet]

This is neither here nor there, but is there a specific S-video N64 cable that's best to use?

[brisk drum]

The jeopardy game for sega cd is actually pretty dope too , it has a very neat presentation

[orchid nimbus]

People who brag about their IQ are lol

[torpid hamlet]

I'm still using composite and I'd like to upgrade to S-video

[brisk drum]

Et Tu vampier

[rose elbow]

IQ should scrapped in favour of "do you have a mister? y/n"

[cerulean elk]

It’s still weird to think our mod @zinc dew is an actor

[brisk drum]

My brains got more wrinkles than yo mommas ass @cerulean elk

[cerulean elk]

And he’s quoting about looking in mirrors too 🤣

[topaz otter]

Maybe im just not understanding the way it works

[neat sierra]

its how I express my affection, you're welcome

[dreamy ridge]

lmao is that real bitroast

[topaz otter]

With the n64 core the fpga is emulating the actual hardware

[rose elbow]

yuh i had to look it up coz i couldnt believe it but it's real :D

[hollow orbit]

Discussion of NDT had to be banned from from r/IAmVerySmart to keep it from drowning everything else out

[dreamy ridge]

lmafo

[topaz otter]

But since the mario64 code has been decompiled and optimized

[quick arch]

yes it is

[topaz otter]

In theory if someone wanted to make a native port to the fpga they could do that

[latent galleon]

like flappy bird?

[shell cloak]

It’s amazing how great Animal Crossing aka. Doubutsu no Mori looked on N64. It’s gorgeous! It’s stretching my Genki 1 Japanese though. So much colloquial phrasing.

[dreamy ridge]

i think i have a fan translation for that, didn't know it was working yet!

[rose elbow]

could be a good opportunity to play it honestly. the casual nature of mister being able to bounce around games so quickly

[shell cloak]

The fan translation doesn’t boot for me, but JP does. No real time clock though so pointless to play besides checking it out

[quick arch]

You need to create the fpga core hardware able to run the mario 64 optimized if it is not running on n64 core (real hardware)

[rose elbow]

Animal Crossing 🙏

N64 has a real time clock?

[topaz otter]

Ok this makes sense

[rose elbow]

or the cartridge?

[cerulean elk]

The cart does

[rose elbow]

ahh

[topaz otter]

The rom has an issue with the everdrive because the everdrive lacks a rtc

[rose elbow]

that makes sense

[topaz otter]

At least until recently

Theres a hacked version though

But the gamecube one is the same game so just play that

And bypass all those issues

[rose elbow]

ya

there is something very nice about mister and consilidating things to the 1 system

but i do love the gamecube :-)

would be funny if n64 animal crossing worked with the MiSTer RTC add-on part and people started rushing to buy them

[brisk drum]

First game I always check with a new build is castlevania 64

[rose elbow]

hows it working?

[brisk drum]

It is not

[deft tree]

masochist

[brisk drum]

😦 but the day that cheese intro boots up I’m gonna cheer loudly

[brisk drum]

You mean kusoge enthusiast

[manic basin]

"You got Nitro."

[cerulean elk]

That’s because you are smart

[quick arch]

if your mister is connected to intenet you don't need this module

[rose elbow]

OH! i didnt know that

[quick arch]

when it is connected it gets time and used on core for RTC

[dense wagon]

yeah its kinda funny i forget my Mister has the RTC module... though it does spook me when i boot into the Amiga workbench and the time is correct... its like... AH... oh yeah

[brisk drum]

Ooofff amiga gaming .. that is spooky

[quaint rune]

Rtc add on will be useful after Armageddon kills the internet

[brisk drum]

No one is gonna care what time it of the day it is after Armageddon

[mellow raft]

I mean... rtc works with MiSTer without the addon. If the MiSTer gets an Internet connection it pulls the time that way. Rtc addon just makes it possible offline

Oof someone beat me to it haha

[rose elbow]

now it’s double confirmed 🤣

[quaint rune]

Animal crossing will

[brisk drum]

Bruhhh … stop .. if the homies in the post apocalyptic barrio find out you play animal crossing you are bound to drizzown

[inner garden]

I was told this info:
You can remove the face from any of the Super Mario 64 by searching for 14 00 00 78 in hex and replacing it with 14 00 02 0C
It shows up twice in the rom. I guess just change the first one?

well I did

it worked

[zinc dew]

Ohhh make a patch so we can relive the core’s early days

[iron dove]

I have fond memories of playing mario 64 without a face way back when I was current age -2 days

[hearty oar]

once TLB is implemented we'll need a patch that just hangs the game after the logo so we can really relive the glory days of this core

[inner garden]

trying to use a PS4 controller but I can’t make mario move

even tried to remap the controller and re-set it up in OSD after booting mister

buttons work

cstick fine

[quaint rune]

Kind of crazy but also convenient that only 17 games in the n64 library uses TLB. OF COURSE CONKER WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THERE MRAAAAAA

[inner garden]

Switch pro controller works

[weary beacon]

Complete the setting for buttons, you must go to the end for the analog stick to work.

[zinc dew]

Conker works? #1096015979055697940 message

[quaint rune]

I ain’t falling for that 💩

[zinc dew]

Lol

[stuck summit]

finally, Conker on MiSTer

[mortal panther]

I made a patch that removes Conker's fur, so it's playable now. 😉

[quaint rune]

I always did like the n64 look over the 360 game. The models there looked hideous and even lacked some facial expressions.

[tepid gorge]

I wouldn’t lose any sleep if Conker never worked, it’s the worst Rare N64 game in my opinion

The first half is fine but when it becomes a shooter the controls are just so unfun

[chilly ember]

Conkers bad fur is amazing

[tepid gorge]

When I just said worst, I forgot about all the ones besides BK and DK

It’s my least favorite 3D platformer they did

[quaint rune]

Check it out, you are simba

https://tenor.com/view/lionking-simba-baby-simba-throw-off-throw-from-cliff-gif-4938582

😹 I’m kidding but zamn, no love for conker and banjo kazooie, those are one of my favorite rare games.

[tepid gorge]

I like the idea of it, and again the first half that’s mostly just platforming but when you have to shoot stuff later in the game I dislike the controls so much

I like Banjo-Kazooie and DK64

[chilly ember]

I don't mind the shooting controls so much but i grew up with the awkward controls

[inner garden]

I was playing no face Mario with data cache On with latest. It often freezes near the beginning of the first level when you enter the painting. Known? is it mucking with the ram timing to fix it?

[quaint rune]

I have heard dk64 is one of the worst collectathon games. Never tried it but I’ve heard cases on both sides. I’m gonna give it a go though whenever things are more stable.

[rose elbow]

yeah i never really tried DK64 tbh. i owned Banjo Kazooie and loved it. then rented Banjo Tooie (admittedly only rented and never owned it).. but it just seemed like the same game but the world map was like 4x bigger and more time was spent just holding up on the joystick running around aimlessly

i think i probably have a higher opinion of Conker over Banjo2 or DK64 but i kinda lump them all into the same category of games not really doing anything new that Banjo Kazooie already did better

[mossy needle]

Dk64 is a very flawed game and gets frustrating especially at the end of the game if you're trying to 101% it. I enjoy playing the game but I have a ton of nostalgia for it

[rose elbow]

that is very fair. i am curious if there's actually anything about Banjo one that is better than the other games or if it's just a matter of; i played it first lol

[weary beacon]

Adaptoid USB adapter with original N64 controller 🙁

[iron trail]

Were you referring to the face at the start of the game, or his face in-game?

[mossy needle]

Banjo Tooie is a much bigger game and adds so much to an already near perfect game. It suffers from the "let's add too much in the 2nd game and make the player overwhelmed with back tracking" issue

Banjo Kazooie is pretty straight forward, you can beat most levels in one go and not a ton of backtracking is involved

If you know where to go and what to do

[orchid nimbus]

LOL

[quaint rune]

Banjo was my first 3D rare game. I do feel the first is better than the second. Second was a little long in the tooth. Especially sucked when you got a ability that you can use in a older world but then have to endlessly wander a giant map trying to remember where the spot you’re supposed to use said ability. I still enjoyed it though. Conker was fun in its own way for making you go do one distinct task to the to the next and rewarding you with funny dialogue, not to mention kick ass multiplayer.

[mossy needle]

I always viewed Conker as a completely different type of game than Banjo

[quaint rune]

Oh yeah, I just mean out of the rare catalogue

[mossy needle]

It is a collectathon but the set pieces seem more integrated in the world

Absolutely

I love Banjo Tooie but it's a beast of a game if you want to finish it compared to Kazooie

[quaint rune]

Have you played the gba game ?

[primal bolt]

funny as hell

[spice shuttle]

Apologies if I missed this but where can I get the .pif files?

I can't seem to find them anywhere

[quaint rune]

I gotchu

You got to look deeeeeeeeep on the interweb

[mossy needle]

They were not easy to find I'll tell you that

Some are archived somewhere hidden

[spice shuttle]

Thanks all 🙂

[quaint rune]

Gyu huh 🐻🪕🎶

[zinc dew]

Have you tried Joe’s patch for Banjo

[quaint rune]

No, never heard of it

[zinc dew]

Joe momma

[quaint rune]

Are you serious 😂 NOOOOOO

[inner garden]

I have the rom where it skips the intro stretchy face

can go in and play at the castle but I jump in the painting, move a bit then it freezes

[iron trail]

Gotcha, that's normal for now. I thought that hex was to remove his face in game as well (for the memes, that's how it was running a few days ago), but I tried it and it didn't work lol

[fair sequoia]

silly question .. im getting E00028 .. doea nyone know what that means ?

[iron trail]

Oh actually, random crashes in-game are normal, with or without data cache. If you want a clean patch for skipping the intro face, check the FAQ https://vampier.net/N64

[zinc dew]

Not silly at all! Those are errors that relate to specific implementations in the core. For us mortals they don’t mean much but for Robert (the core dev) it hints towards what’s causing the issue.

Also welcome, happy to have you here!

[fair sequoia]

I get that no matter what I try with the core,, feel like im missing somethign really silly

[mossy needle]

You can always turn it off if you don't want to see it to

[fair sequoia]

all roms result in that error and a black screen, 0 fps, nothing

[zinc dew]

You might be missing the bios?

[fair sequoia]

i have the correct pif, renamed, correct sha1 .. in /games/N64

[mossy needle]

Did you add the database?

[fair sequoia]

what database

[mossy needle]

vampier.net/N64

[covert bough]

The text file from vampeir

[mossy needle]

Go there and you will find a text file that makes a bunch of the settings work and you save it in your N64 games folder

[zinc dew]

https://vampier.net/N64/

[mossy needle]

There's a lot of stuff there but you'll find it

[zinc dew]

@mossy needle thanks for helping btw, it’s awesome to see!

[fair sequoia]

ok , added the data base file .. no change

[mossy needle]

Do you have the latest Mister unstable?

[fair sequoia]

let me grab that

[mossy needle]

No problem! I was helped by you all and want to pass it forward

[quaint rune]

Blanka has a heart

[mossy needle]

Blankas heart grew 3 sizes that day

[fair sequoia]

unstable mister it was!! and ther database too .. YAY .. thnk you ❤️

[orchid nimbus]

If people only would give me a $ for ever visit to the FAQ I would donate it to Robert lol

Tomorrow I’ll work on an auto updater for the database

[craggy kettle]

what FPS are people seeing on Link OoT (Master Quest U)? I loaded it today and was getting 10-12 fps post intro cut scene

[quaint rune]

Do you have data cache on ? I’d have to check again and see

[mild ether]

You're welcome.

[warped patrol]

Not sure if anyone used this for analogue out. Had some weird visual color banding with like 70% of all games. Switching the 240 to 237 to match the 320x237 resolution of a lot of games seems to have fixed a lot of the weird issues I was having (other games I've tested that don't have that resolution seems to have scaled fine.

[mossy needle]

Absolutely! I remember trying the laundry list of things to get this to work

Someone give Vampier a cookie

[quaint rune]

🍪🥛

[rose elbow]

um.. is Shadows of the Empire SRAM? should that be saving now ?

http://micro-64.com/database/gamesave.shtml
this list says 4Kbit EEPROM? is that different?

so its the smaller list with Ocarina that has saving? i see i see :-)

[quaint rune]

yeah its gotta be your cache im thinking, getting a smoth 20 fps

[chilly ember]

I've been playing the non master quest gamecube version and fps has been good. Just got second spirtual stone

[craggy kettle]

Cache on or off?

[quaint rune]

On, might as well save that setting too that way it stays on.

[chilly ember]

Cache on for me

Not a single crash yet with it on

[trim seal]

Dat Fzero soundtrack

[dusty tusk]

Fzero X DD version had higher quality stereo soundtrack, can't wait for that to start working

[shell cloak]

So the regular Ocarina doesn't boot right? Only the gamecube one?

[quaint rune]

Correct

For now…

[latent galleon]

check again tomorrow

[mild ether]

And you can save right?

[quaint rune]

Yes you can

[chilly ember]

Saving is working

[mild ether]

Nice, I might play that this weekend. Never played Zelda on N64.

[shell cloak]

Good fun if you can put yourself in the mindset of a 12 year old experiencing a 3D world for the first time in 1998

To be honest still pretty good regardless of that. I think they hold up (possibly biased)

[chilly ember]

I think it still holds up pretty well

[shell cloak]

Might help if you order Pizza Hut and drink a pepsi in a friend's living room, the full experience

[quaint rune]

Pepsi and not Coca Cola ? 😤

[shell cloak]

Not sure about USA but Pizza Hut in Australia only serves Pepsi 😮

[mild ether]

How about Papa John's and diet coke in my living room?

[shell cloak]

Also Pepsi gives more of a "friend's place" vibe to me for some reason

[chilly ember]

Yea was gonna say pepsi co owns pizza hut

So they push pepsi

[quaint rune]

and Zelda 64 def holds up as being a great awesome game worth playing. I’m definitely not biased because I wasn’t able to play it until last year when I was 31. So I had no childhood connection to Zelda 64
😹 and yeah it was great. Water temple and all

[craggy kettle]

testing my cache settings, waiting for this longest cutscene from my childhood too wrap it up

I've got Data cache on, data force WB on, cache delay 0, DDR 3 Delay o, and everything down to Read Z On

[quaint rune]

Yeah that should be fine

[craggy kettle]

I want to say it's running smoother in the cut scene, I think it was dropping low during the Gannon bridge part

[mild ether]

That's good to hear. I am already a fan of some of the other games so probably will like it.

[dense wagon]

Cant get Zelda to boot here 😦 any specific rom vs bios vs core?

[craggy kettle]

Master Quest GC

[chilly ember]

Normal Gamecube oot version works too

[craggy kettle]

I'm using the NTSC bios

[dense wagon]

yeah, tried one of the roms from the huge collection archive and yeah NTSC bios from the same place i think its the hash that starts B7A00 so its the USA NTSC

[quaint rune]

Ntsc bios, latest core build and running on mister unstable. Rom from the no intro pack is what I used.

[languid dune]

I see you woke up again this morning and chose violence.

[dense wagon]

ah yeah seems like i have all the same stuff... hmmmm has to be something a little missing - i guess ill wait a bit and try again at some point

[quaint rune]

You have the n64 database txt in your list of games ?

It should work

[dense wagon]

yep

[quaint rune]

And you’ve ran other stuff just fine ?

[dense wagon]

so Starfox works seemingly perfectly, Mario Kart also

[quaint rune]

🤔 mystery of the worst sort here. The only thing I can think of is possibly rebooting your mister and seeing

[regal saffron]

was able to get mine going, thx @quaint rune and @craggy kettle

[dense wagon]

yeah i bet i am just kinda missing something in the mix, might help to clear the settings too

all good ill fight with it later 🙂 but have to say, just what i do have working... its pretty dang cool

[regal saffron]

I nuked everything and got all fresh, core, database.txt, bios etc, and got it going, i had been trying everything for oot

[craggy kettle]

So my FPS is sticking to about 15, but it feels as fast as it ever was on the N64 so turning on Data Cache and Data FORCE WB seemed to have done the trick

[quaint rune]

Okay home skillet, I’m sorry I couldn’t help more but I’m sure you do have everything right. Just need a reboot.

[languid dune]

Sounds like you're missing the database txt file.

[quaint rune]

They said they had it

[dense wagon]

aye that actually was a big part of getting the other two titles working

not to worry at all - thanks for the pointers 🙂 I can always try to start over - or hang out for the next update and refresh everthing 😄