Nintendo 64

[odd vector]

You have to use the iQue version, since it doesn't use SRAM

[languid dune]

MK8D is one of the few Nintendo games that is fun online since it doesn't need perfect sync.

[shell cloak]

Thanks!

[hearty oar]

Splatoon would be so amazing with dedicated servers...

[languid dune]

Use either the iQue version, or use the second core build from earlier today for the US version.

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[shell cloak]

Omg can’t keep up with these builds 🫣

[odd vector]

I didn't know about this build ^^

[languid dune]

Somehow Splatoon 3's online is more unstable than Splatoon 2's online. Way more disconnects during matches.

[rose elbow]

o.O

[languid dune]

It's not particularly stable, and he is planning on releasing a better version of it this weekend. That said, a lot more games boot with it.

[shell cloak]

Oh the secret build

[rose elbow]

weird. ive been meaning to grab Splatoon 3 but the initial server test wasn't promising in that regard and i just forgot about it .. i don't really play Splatoon 2 too seriously so it's a tough sell to upgrade

[quaint rune]

Animal crossing can’t save yet right ?

[odd vector]

sounds great, thanks for letting me know

[hearty oar]

yeah for sure, it's also super cool when the game blames you for it...

[rose elbow]

Splatoon...

[languid dune]

Smash loves to do that as well.

[hearty oar]

yeah it's a bit tragic that you can get better netplay in melee now

[zenith orchid]

the unlisted test build should be in the pins. you don't need the iQue version for it

[chilly ember]

Not yet, have to wait for flash save support

[zenith orchid]

either that or save states

[quaint rune]

Oh okay. Thanks. Cause I wasn’t sure what save type it used, just only noticed that the screen froze on me when I tried to.

[weary palm]

Upon inspection, iQue F-zero in the Everdrive collection is SRAM enabled. I haven't added this flag to N64-database.txt yet, though.

[native mesa]

that's some arcade coin op bs

[rich delta]

Whilst I agree with you with shaders on software emulation the filters on Mister Im not so sure on. Although Ive never seen anyone post close up shots of the simulated phosphors on Mister so Im prepared to be corrected. I only use my Misters with my PVMs and so haven't had the chance to test them on LCD/OLEDs with filters.

[native mesa]

The mister filters aren't quite there. Retrotink 5x has them

With the amazing HDR modes

[chilly ember]

Neat, the Zelda 64 temple demo rom hack is getting in game now with this build. Still randomly crashes like ocarina of time tho

[dusty tusk]

I'm using regular F-Zero X and it's working, make sure you're using the sram build in the pinned. Smash Bros should also work if you want something else to double check with

[chilly ember]

Smash remix works too

[quaint rune]

Never seen this old footage of Zelda. Neat to see Navi red and the original nes dungeon theme remixed

[oblique remnant]

I wonder what the FPS count for the PAL F-Zero would be. The speed difference should be very notable?!

[vapid moat]

Gotta get up finally to try this build, just woke up

F-Zero + Smash 64 Remix being playable makes this core already complete in my eyes

[vapid moat]

Iirc F-Zero X is PAL-optimized, should be relatively same 60fps speed

[weary palm]

It's not old, it's a fan recreation ROM hack 🙂

[quaint rune]

Oh wow

[oblique remnant]

Nice i grew up with that version. Would be fun to compare in general. Mk64 gotta be one of the worst optimised examples

[vapid moat]

MK64's unoptimized, the whole 25fps shebang

[dusty tusk]

The reflections in fzero X weirdly blow me away. I remember those being broken for years on emulators

[weary beacon]

Where can i find the spreadsheet?

[remote hatch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8/edit?usp=drivesdk

[iron trail]

Made it to adulthood in OoT MQ on the secret build. No crashes. It's been running since yesterday morning. I wouldn't be surprised if you could complete the game. Incredible progress, @wanton sun thank you!

[rich delta]

Even those Id like to see close up - all the shots Ive seen have been quite blurry so its been hard to see whether they are very good or just good.

[quasi storm]

Woot, StarCraft 64 now works! Just needs some work on colors in only a few spots.

[native mesa]

I can later. It's 4am here

[quasi storm]

Are going to update the spreadsheet with results from the sram stub build, or just wait?

[native mesa]

Do not

[quasi storm]

But... So many more games work, now ☹️

Fine, I'll wait...

[native mesa]

Robert said not to. It's a hack at the moment

[rich delta]

Oh my god get to bed! 🤣 Yes Id love to see some close up shots of the pixels. Comparisons like this dont fill me with confidence but it hasnt got the detail to really be sure what Im looking at.

[remote hatch]

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you won't have to wait long 🙂

[quasi storm]

Oh, my bad.

But still, it amazes me how many games just wanted the sram to be "Present"

[native mesa]

I don't think it's that crazy. I wonder if they work the same if there's no battery on original hardware

@rich delta

[quasi storm]

That would be awful if true. Imagine how many perfectly good games would be binned.

[odd vector]

N64 Core looks currently a little odd on my TV.. But there is no official support for noow

[native mesa]

Try the modeline

The above screenshots are slot mask which is my preferred CRT mode

[odd vector]

Sry, talking about analog -> crt tv

[native mesa]

Yes try this modeline in your mister.ini

[N64]
vscale_mode=1
vga_scaler=1
video_mode=320,8,32,24,240,4,3,16,6048

[odd vector]

will try it when I'm at home. Thx! 🙂

[native mesa]

Well a dead battery is very different than an incomplete circuit

[hearty oar]

Nah it would still save the game while playing, it would just mean as soon as the cart loses power your save is gone

The battery does nothing except keep the save ram powered while the console is off

[rocky spindle]

I made it to S during the first four weeks and then didn’t re-sub my annual. I’m not paying for nothing other than poor emulation and profile pictures.

[amber saffron]

Mario does indeed have a face, but its very crashy 😦 -- I've got cache enabled though, so maybe related to that.

It worked fine with cache + no face tho.

[remote hatch]

cache dealy may help

[amber saffron]

ahh, I'll try delay

[remote hatch]

5-10

[rich delta]

These are great photos thanks for doing this. Hmm Im really not impressed with this though. Here's what a CRT (Sony PVM 2730QM) and what a HDR CRT shader can achieve. You can see the phosphors and wires are modelled whereas the Retrotink 5x does none of that.

[native mesa]

Yeah I think the 4k will have better filters. 1080p isn't high enough res. I can show the PVM filter too though.

[amber saffron]

6 didn't work, but I'll try more later on 😄

[remote hatch]

will crash at some point , is just a little better

[native mesa]

But yeah no individual r g b phosphors

[rich delta]

Ah right yeah 4K is the min for a 600TVL aperture grille. 1080p can do 300TVL though.

[native mesa]

Supposedly this is what the new one will be capable of

[hearty oar]

Imagine if we had refresh rates high enough to simulate N virtual TV lines lighting up at a time, and then fading, instead of full frame at a time BFI

That would be the biggest possible improvement to current CRT simulation imho

[rich delta]

Better but kind of the same as above - pure green shouldnt cover the same amount of pixels as white. The luminance balance will be off compared to a CRT - not to mention the look. Thanks for the pics - really appreciated especially at your time of the day!

[native mesa]

People will have the ability to make their own too so I'm sure it will get there

[daring meteor]

There is no SRAM on iQue F Zero as that's not even a cart game

[craggy ginkgo]

Heaps of N64 controllers at Cash Converters! Pretty good prices too.

[viral swift]

Is this Retrotink?

[weary palm]

You know the version running on MiSTer is a hack, right?

[daring meteor]

Is iQue SM64 also marked for SRAM?

Or you mean like

Its hacked so it would be an SRAM game?

[weary palm]

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6927/

Hacked iQue version of SM64 uses EEPROM, same as the N64 version.

[amber saffron]

What are these awesome crt filters from? are they coming to mister?

[daring meteor]

2022?

No

I'm using the Original ROM and it works fine

My rom has 3c7fa54be9c0124c502f1c8df53765f82d401508

[weary palm]

What are you talking about

[daring meteor]

The version running on my Mister is the original one

Not a hack

[weary palm]

No it's not

[daring meteor]

I checked my checksums

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/n64/patches/6927readme.txt

My checksum is the one for the original file

[weary palm]

Even the original is a hack.

[daring meteor]

Doubt its with SRAM

[weary palm]

No, it's not

[daring meteor]

The unQue version should be added, I think Hacks were being added already

[amber saffron]

Whats the source on this? its amazing

[daring meteor]

But the Mister runs the original (Or whatever people call the dump) version

[daring meteor]

Holy

That's a good filter

It looks like my CRT

Finer tho

[marble cargo]

Pixel density plays a key role in getting better filters, as it can make it easier to see the more subtle details found on a CRT. That's part of the reason why the Retrotink 4K can produce high quality filters.

[rich delta]

Sorry missed this one - looks a lot better - the phosphors are being simulated and its a 100% mask. 👍 Does look like some blur is being added before the mask though but cant be sure - Id have to compare against a NES on a CRT - mind you that might be a NTSC signal simulation. Weird the aperture grille doesnt seem to be as good.

[chilly ember]

Zelda The Sealed Palace rom hack gets in game but has in game crash. Cool to see rom hacks of ocarina of time doing something tho

[daring meteor]

Adress error on load?
Inb4 TLB

[weary palm]

Awesome

[wanton sun]

i doubt anyone would add tlb in a romhack

[weary palm]

I was wrong about the iQue ROMs, turns out the iQue games are heavily encrypted several times, but deep in there is a regular N64 big endian rom.

[wanton sun]

very nice. I will wait until sram is working and some graphical glitches are fixed before i start a playthrough 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Nice to come in and see the sky hasn’t fallen again with new features 🤣 morning everyone

[wanton sun]

nothing new to show. In best case we can load and save sram games tomorrow or so

not good youtube content 😉

[daring meteor]

Only OOT is now playable, Oh no

[bronze tree]

yes, very mediocre improvement 😛

[wanton sun]

master quest...not sure how hard this game gets later on but i died in the deku tree and that is something that should normally never happen

[mild ether]

MiSTer will be my first time playing any of those Zelda games.

[bronze tree]

The most notable feature of Master Quest is that every dungeon in the game has been modified to increase the difficulty of the game (from https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_Master_Quest)

[cerulean elk]

I can sell a black screen baby

[worn delta]

Some dungeons in the Master Quest I remeber thinking were easier than OOT, I don't think it's much more difficult on the whole - but the Deku Tree is definitely a step up from OOT when you only have 3 hearts

[inner isle]

Is the no face patch still required for sm64 eyes, using the latest test build?

[bronze tree]

Command & Conquer runs (according to the FPS counter, but black screen 😉 )

[cerulean elk]

No I have a “more games working SRAM coming soon” vid today but no voice overs for me today. My throat and voice are cashed for a minute

[mild ether]

You still need the patch.

[inner isle]

Ok, ta.

[cerulean elk]

Did a bunch of Halloween episodes and MiSTer stuff this week and went over my “allowed” voice overs in a week number

[mild ether]

You will need the patch until TLB is in the core.

[cerulean elk]

After X minutes of talking for VO I start to feel like a 70 year old woman who has a two packs of Virginia Slims a day habit

[mild ether]

Nightmare in the dark video?

[cerulean elk]

I did that for a previous Halloween I think

[wanton sun]

"So go ahead and listen for like 30 to 40 minutes until i come back to close the video"

[cerulean elk]

Haha seriously. That’s what I’d need

This Halloween is a mix of traditional horror and alt horror. Should be fun

“Biblically accurate Pikachu” 😂

[worn delta]

Is the list that Robert posted yesterday of all the games that use S-ram for saving? i.e. on the next build those games will be saveable?

[wanton sun]

i'm not aware of posting a list

[worn delta]

Oh I thought you did, let me see who did

[wanton sun]

but you can open the database file and search for sram i guess

[cerulean elk]

Twas someone else

[worn delta]

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Is that a definitive list?

Looks a bit patchy

[wanton sun]

mostly, maybe 2 more japanese titles that could be translations of their US name

[worn delta]

Some good titles in there

[bronze tree]

some games that use Flash storage also run

[wanton sun]

some flash titles also boot now, e.g. starcraft, but i'm not sure when i will add save/load for them

[daring meteor]

I posted a list that was from Ares emulator

This one seems identical

Flash titles are less common than SRAM, its mainly Majora's mask that will matter to people, but there's some other nicities there

[worn delta]

If after you are looking for a game that runs with obvious to see graphical issues Harvest Moon is a good contender, it is playable (but I did quickly get a crash) but the graphics are wildly out

Bad Acid Farming

[daring meteor]

Command & Conquer
Derby Stallion 64
Doubutsu no Mori
Jet Force Gemini [Star Twins (J)]
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask [Zelda no Densetsu - Mujura no Kamen (J)]
Mega Man 64
NBA Courtside 2 featuring Kobe Bryant
Paper Mario
Pokemon Puzzle League
Pokemon Snap [Pocket Monsters Snap (J)]
Pokemon Stadium
Pocket Monsters Stadium 2 (J)
Pokemon Stadium 2 [Pocket Monsters Stadium - Kin Gin (J)]
Rockman Dash - Hagane no Boukenshin (J)
StarCraft 64
Tigger's Honey Hunt
WWF No Mercy
Dinosaur Planet (Unlicensed)

Here's the Flash games

[tropic sand]

Another view
http://micro-64.com/database/gamesave.shtml

[worn delta]

Nice one, thanks for the list

Ah so OOT os S-ram and MM is flash, interesting

[daring meteor]

Yeah

[worn delta]

Doubutsu no Mori = Animal Forest

[weary palm]

As I said before, this version of "vanilla" OoT works. https://datomatic.no-intro.org/index.php?page=show_record&s=24&n=0926

[worn delta]

Animal Forest is playable already (even translation patch version) and looks really nice, just some pixel issues. But obviously can't save and no RTC

[mild ether]

Wow, I am surprised it's ok without the RTC.

[little socket]

Xtreme g is nicer, runs without freezing but is missing 95% of everything and ends up just being a grey foggy abys

[cerulean elk]

Nintendo basically went for every option available for N64

[worn delta]

Yeah, you have to set the time at the start, but as I know from first hand experience trying to play the GC version on a console where the battery had died, you come back each day and find nothing has changed so you can't progress so are trapped in this weird limbo world

[daring meteor]

N64 vs GBA, who wins in the Save-Type department

[quick arch]

On the list N64-Database, we don't have some homebrew like Xeno Crisis

[compact depot]

Nor mimi pad test 😔

[weary palm]

Most homebrew uses cic6102

[zinc dew]

I love this core ❤️

[cerulean elk]

3DO, PC Engine CD and Saturn win. Had the common courtesy so have in console saving. Vs memory cards for some games / all games

And all the other consoles that had internal saves

[daring meteor]

Xbox 360, Wii, and PS3 are truly the consoles of all time

[quick arch]

yes but somes could you use some type of Save or have rumblepak etc ..

[cerulean elk]

They were probably all so upset when they realized the days of selling overpriced memory cards were over

[daring meteor]

They weren't when PS vita

[cerulean elk]

Sony was the worst offender for sure with their handhelds

[daring meteor]

And Xbox Series

[zinc dew]

They got replaced with overpriced online services with cloud storage for saved games

[daring meteor]

Unless it's Xbox

[cerulean elk]

This is why Valve is GOAT

[daring meteor]

Xbox still has them

[cerulean elk]

Valve: “you want cloud saves? Here you go! You want massive deals multiple times a year? You got it! You want a refund in the first two hours? Sure why not”

[devout leaf]

A detailed look at every game that doesn’t boot 😆

[cerulean elk]

Haha I usually only put one game in per vid that doesn’t work; the game people ask to see tested the most

Otherwise they think I forget to check

[devout leaf]

Test the Dreamcast core for April Fools.

“Ok let’s boot Crazy Taxi, and another black screen”. Just VO on 15 mins of a flat black screen lol

[mild ether]

Linux rom doesn't boot but I have no idea what the CIC should be and etc.

[mild ether]

Refund part is seriously amazing. Makes buying old titles a lot less of a gamble on knowing if they will even run on your system.

[cerulean elk]

Same for VR. Some of its just straight up broken. So knowing after 10-15 minutes I can get my money back…amazing

[mild ether]

Found there is some compatibility issues with Ryzen and some old 32bit games.

[native mesa]

I met Gaben once. Probably the only billionaire I'll ever touch

[storm void]

You could just play the regular OOT gamecube version

[mild ether]

It's pretty great Jerry Garcia gave up his music gig to make a software company that invented Steam.

[wanton sun]

oh, it also works?

[storm void]

Yes, I didn't play it as long, but it got through the intro and running around.

[wanton sun]

given how long the intro is, that's probably enough 🙂

[worn delta]

Yeah there are still thinks in certainly the HTGDB pack not in the .txt file yet. It would be good to get everything on the non retail tabs checked (again now there is an updated list) and see what is still missing.

[storm void]

Also testing GameCube Majora, but that seems to work about the same as regular majora.

[quick arch]

GameCube Majora JP version works !! but the non version GameCube hangs on Nintendo logo

[worn delta]

I wonder what the difference is under the hood

I thought the GC versions were 480 rather than 240 resolution as well

[mortal panther]

Bah... saving in video games. I tell ya, kids got it easy these days!

[cerulean elk]

back in my day you just left the console on overnight and hoped for the best!

[cerulean elk]

the worst was when someone picked up the phone when you were on the internet though

RIP connection

[storm void]

NO CARRIER

[drowsy lantern]

Oh I remember lashing out rather violently at my parents whenever they did this without asking first. I was terrible.

[cerulean elk]

"damn it mom I was only 6 minutes away from seeing a boob"

or whatever parts fluff your stuff!

[mortal panther]

"Get off the Internet! I need to use the phone!"
Used to hate hearing that...

[cerulean elk]

lolol

"I spent six minutes downloading this and its not doing it for me"

[deft tree]

this is reminding me of finding my gameboy camera a year or two ago

and going through the pictures on it to find titty pics i had taken with it when i was like 12

[cerulean elk]

lol not gonan ask for details here

[deft tree]

i printed a couple stickers of them and gave to friends lol

[dense wagon]

saw a little CRT by the road the other day that someone was throwing out... if it hadn't been rained on id have totally scooped it up

[deft tree]

good chance it was fine, I rescued a 27" component phillips from the rain a couple years ago and its great

[dense wagon]

aye still kinda kicking myself

[cerulean elk]

Always grab em. The water will evaporate. Just open the case and let them chill out for a few weeks

[tropic sand]

N64 dialup...

[cerulean elk]

Give ‘em a nice IPA bath. The alcohol combines with the water and helps the evaporation process

[drowsy lantern]

Imagine the anticipation of downloading a new test core by Robert if we still all had dialup.

[cerulean elk]

It would take an hour just to find out what was new

Now it takes me longer to click the file than it does for it to be downloaded

[dense wagon]

When half life 2 dropped, they did the whole, here is a CD with a pre-install, and you have to download the rest off of steam.

It still took me 5 hours to download

[cerulean elk]

So PlayStation 5 update style then?

[dense wagon]

cant remember if i was still on a 56k modem, or was on ADSL at about 128 or 256k

haha yeah pretty much

[cerulean elk]

“Enjoy your new game. Ooh btw it’s a 30 minute install followed by a 90GB day one patch. Maybe try playing tomorrow”

I swear Sonys servers blow. Series X updates are as big but I get 2x persistent download bitrates vs Sony and the consoles live in the same spot so it’s not wifi

Series X will do 500-750 Mbps down. I’m lucky if I see 250 Mbps on PS5

[drowsy lantern]

I forgot whichever game it was this gen, but I had to contend for the absolute worst amount of updates I'd ever seen. First the PS5 itself needed an update, then the controllers needed an update, then install the game, then it needs to download a 90GB update. UGH.

[cerulean elk]

Nothing was worse than PSVR 2 launch

OS update, game download, controller updates…then it was bugged and the right controller refused to be recognized. Spent four hours to NOT play a game followed by two weeks till Sony fixed it

[mild ether]

Microsoft kinda has Sony beat in the server department probably forever. Really going to be an uphill battle against a company that has all those data centers for Azure.

Unless they pay Amazon or Microsoft.

They really got quite the advantage for doing cloud based gaming.

[elder glade]

good morning everyone

Is N64_20230902.zip the latest core?

[worn delta]

No, have been several since this. If you are manually grabbing them then check the test-build channel
#test-builds message

[zenith orchid]

also check the pins

[worn delta]

But easiest way to stay up to date is grab the update-N64 script from Vampier's site (in the pins) and run that

[elder glade]

aha, thank you!

[fallen sparrow]

I had to do some training at work today, regarding prioritising tasks, it's BS to be honest. Look what shows up in the video

[modern sleet]

@wanton sun Interesting Lode Runner works through analog but its scrambled on HDMI. Its probably a combination of the X_SCALE, VI_WIDTH being a bit of an odd ball. Ill continue to check for anything weird like this

E.g. X_SCALE of 200h, and the pixel width of 640

[paper orchid]

Of course it's a training video, they're holding it wrong (for 99% of games)

[orchid nimbus]

but it has drop shadow

[zenith orchid]

considering the native resolution for the N64, I'm kinda surprised VGA output wasn't a thing

but then again, the 640x480 was interlaced right?

[daring meteor]

Fifa 98?

Try Fifa 98

[oblique remnant]

Highres is 480i yes. RE2 switches from 240p to 480i when opening the inventory. Anoying for capture cards without a buffer

[modern sleet]

Road to the world cup?

[stoic parcel]

Good morning, N64 folk. I have a Saturn analog 3D controller, would that be a decent solution for N64? Or are the sticks just too different?

[zenith orchid]

I was wondering about that too

[modern sleet]

for Fifa 98 (Jap) Yeah, its just the timing, but HDMI is fine on that one. The core is fixed right now to anything thats 640 or 320

[daring meteor]

Huh, alright, curious

[zenith orchid]

my only issue would be the layout of the 6 buttons, but it would probably just take some getting used to

[daring meteor]

I remember one which had broke vsync on CRT

[zenith orchid]

other than that it kinda looks like a better version of the hori/tribute design

[paper orchid]

It'd be interesting but the Saturn controller could work. The stick might be a bit...interesting if you're going from an N64 to that controller, just on feel alone

[stoic parcel]

I could deal with the buttons. Im just curious if the dead zones and other variables are too different. Apparently N64 analog sticks are a tad complicated

[lament escarp]

Except for the gate any modern stick should be good with lemonicis main, which is pinned in controllers.

[paper orchid]

The one thing I'll note with the Saturn, it uses analog triggers IIRC?

[stoic parcel]

Oh okie. Ill look for a USB adapter that supports analog then

[zenith orchid]

I've been using a DS3 analog stick and it's way to sensitive, but I'm slowly getting used to it

[vapid moat]

F-Zero's not working for me, are there specific roms to use?

[stoic parcel]

Thanks folks

[daring meteor]

3 options for F zero

[zenith orchid]

are you using the unlisted build?

[paper orchid]

Having just played S&P with analog triggers: it'll work but quick taps of those triggers for e.g. Z and R are going to be interesting

For most other games though, probably fine

[vapid moat]

I'm guessing no

[daring meteor]

1 - Test build linked
2 - Chinese version
3 - Wait for standard build in a couple of days

[vapid moat]

What's unlisted build?

[zenith orchid]

the most recent pin

[paper orchid]

There's an SRAM build that is a quick hack while Robert works on a proper implementation

[lament escarp]

#controllers message try that

[zenith orchid]

Ah, will do, thanks!

[modern sleet]

Its basically just a timing limitation that Robert has set on Analog out right now. The system clock generates only 2 pixel clocks, 1 for 640 and 320. Anything outside of that range is going to look wonky on a CRT. But its only temporary

[daring meteor]

To be fair 640 and 320 also look wonky

[lament escarp]

You're welcome. This only changes the range in the n64 core, so you're still good to go when using ps1 core.

[modern sleet]

Yeah, its not using the correct clock for Analog, for simplicity right now for testing its synchronized to the cpu and not asychronous like a real N64

[daring meteor]

Are the offset lines really because of the synchronization?

[modern sleet]

That, and the Hblank is getting shifted every other line.

[daring meteor]

So there is hblank shifting, that's the thing I looked around

[vapid moat]

One thing I can't help ignoring, launching any of the games takes quite a while (bizarre as they're smaller size than say, PS1-titles)

[daring meteor]

This is normal

PS1 titles are CD games

N64 are cart games

You will have the same thing on Everdrive 64 compared to PSX ODEs

[vapid moat]

[daring meteor]

Wait did they make everdrives faster

[drowsy lantern]

N64 have to be loaded in RAM in their entirety from the very start, while PSX games only need to load the boot exec, and then everything else is "streamed" from your SD card (or drive) as needed by the game.

[vagrant ivy]

PS1 loads as it goes. The N64 loads it all up front

[modern sleet]

Does anyone know 1 N64 game thats an off resolution of 256x224?

[drowsy lantern]

That said I wonder if anything could be done to speed up loading of N64 roms? If I recall some Neo-Geo games are much larger, yet load much faster.

[wanton sun]

yes, i implemented faster load also for GBA. It would be around 2-3 times faster

[vapid moat]

Huh. Dope.

[wanton sun]

maybe i add it later when things are more stable and it's clear that the space is available

[rose elbow]

late reply to this. i tried playing master quest and got up to fire temple where one of the fun new twists was poorly communicated fire walls appearing in new locations .. i think kinda lost interest about this point. will need to revisit but i didn't find it particurlarly "fun" personally

[paper orchid]

Oh yeah, Master Quest is like

"do you want to have a bad time :)"

(it's challenging, but I personally just did not enjoy it)

[rose elbow]

yeah^ i'd like to see it thru just to know for sure but not terribly interested anymore. OOT is already pretty perfect was the takeaway i got from playing it

[vapid moat]

I have to get back on Master Quest-run - I wanted to do a double-run on RetroAchievements where I play regular OOT but swap to Master Quest during dungeons

Bit worrisome to hear it doesn't live up to much

[mild ether]

If you were to play OOT for the first time would you play master quest?

[rose elbow]

heeeell NOO

the original game is just way better designed. master quest is good if you wanna replay but wanting something different or fresh.

[worldly quartz]

I wonder if it will be possible to dump gb data via transfer pack to like export gb camera pics lol

[vapid moat]

Pokemon Stadium would be dead weight if we can't have that support

[regal prism]

Oh, gameboy transfer pak support would be interesting!

I wonder if the GB tower would work

that never works on emulators

[weary palm]

Master Quest water temple is less cryptic than vanilla ... my two cents. 🙂

[regal prism]

Woudln't be much reason for it, but it would be interesting

[vapid moat]

I remember Robert saying the support might not reach there a long time ago?

Actually scratch that, I was wrong, there's possibility for it (low priority rn though)

[weary palm]

I don't think that's prioritized at all

[rapid condor]

Good morning, I tried playing Diddy Kong racing but it wouldn't boot up. I didn't have any problems with the other games on the pinned post. Am I missing something?

[drowsy lantern]

Maybe you just got lucky and loaded games with the correct CIC, but it sounds like you might not have the latest unstable main along with the N64 Database txt file.

[rapid condor]

What is the N64 data file?

[vagrant ivy]

https://vampier.net/N64/

[rapid condor]

Gotcha, I will look over this. Appreciate you both

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun Was steht heute auf der Speisekarte? 😄

ᴵ ᵒⁿˡʸ ᵘˢᵉᵈ ᵍᵒᵒᵍˡᵉ ᵗᵒ ᶜʰᵉᶜᵏ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵖᵉˡˡᶦⁿᵍ

[woeful grove]

so I was playing with the core a bit last night, and I have to say the Retro Fighters n64 controller is really awesome for this

it has all the buttons, the octagonal gate around the thumb stick, and extra buttons for menu and save state and a couple more to spare after that

and it doesn't have that insane 3 prong design

[remote hatch]

i feel the same 😄

[woeful grove]

I know some people swear by it, but the original n64 controller has to be one of my least favorite ever made

[modern sleet]

Id like to see that argument.. that has to be some small set of people who actually enjoy the n64 controller

[vagrant ivy]

your just being rude to people with 3 arms !

[remote hatch]

Surely the pad designers at Nintendo had three hands each

[woeful grove]

unfortunately now I have 3 controllers for mister I have to have hovering around

ps5 for like everything, m30 for genesis and saturn, and this n64 one

[drowsy lantern]

The goal was to allow for maximum creative freedom when creating a game and they envisioned that some games might be played with the middle configuration. However in the end I'm not sure if even one game ever used it?

[modern sleet]

I assume you are using the wireless variant of the controller? The latency probably isnt too bad, especially with the design of the n64 games? I might pick one of them up, they look pretty good

[cold pollen]

technically N64 could be used for Genesis 😬

[woeful grove]

I didnt test the latency or anything of it, but it wasn't obviously slow like some of the NSO ones are, but yes it's the wireless type and I was using it wired with usb

[neat sierra]

#2 is just silly

[woeful grove]

I was impressed that I didnt have to map it when I plugged it in, made me glow a little bit that it just worked

[woeful grove]

and saturn, it could, but it's not great

[cold pollen]

True true lol

[woeful grove]

I might use it for the few analog stick saturn games

controllers that have 6 buttons and an analog stick are not that common

[daring meteor]

I use an Xbox S controller on mister now

Well

Xbox S layout controller

Not an Xbox S

It has 6 buttons but wrong layout

[ripe sentinel]

my cheapo wireless n64 controller arrives today. excited to finally jump into the core

[quick arch]

@woeful grove Retro Fighters n64 controller is USB controller or N64 Controller ?

[woeful grove]

the version I have is USB

and bluetooth

https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/brawler64-bluetooth-wireless-nintendo-switch-switch-online-pc-video-game-controller/

[quick arch]

Thank you 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Its good until the cramps set in

then its a killer

[woeful grove]

for buttons, it has the standard n64 once as you can see, a home and menu button for switch on the front, , shoulders for L, R, and Z on each side, and two tiny extra shoulder buttons I guess for switch compatibility

[cerulean elk]

first 30 minutes are fine. After that my left hand hurts like the dickens

[woeful grove]

the player selection lights work, I haven't tested if it rumbles or not yet, but i'd hope that it does

oh the page says it rumbles

[cerulean elk]

I may give that a try @woeful grove since the NSO N64 controller is always out of stock and just scalped on eBay for a huge mark up

[woeful grove]

I have one of those, but im guessing they are as laggy as the other NSO things

and also awful

[rose elbow]

luckily i dont really notice the lag at all. ive been using the nso controller pretty happily

[woeful grove]

NSO controllers have around 2-3 frames of lag just from the input

[stuck summit]

I have the Tribute64 wireless by Retrobit. Pretty decent.

[woeful grove]

it makes me sad because the snes ones are awesomely made otherwise

[rose elbow]

i had a brawler 64 controller that's for original hardware but sold it coz i personally didn't like it

[stuck summit]

Goddamn. The Switch Pro Controller is marked as having 13ms of lag over bluetooth, I assumed the NSO controllers would be similar

[cerulean elk]

so its all good via USB? awesome. I never use wireless unless I am playing my living room MiSTer for fun

[woeful grove]

yes it's fine via usb. mapped automatically and all buttons worked perfectly

"screenshot" maps to select, start to start, and home to menu by default

[cerulean elk]

Thanks for the info. WIll order today

[woeful grove]

In the core I set select/screenshot to savestate, and if there's any more functions I guess ill use the spare shoulders

[paper orchid]

I have the original version of this that just works on the N64

Can confirm: real nice controller, I just wish I could use it on the MiSTer 😭

[woeful grove]

you could get snac eventually, but imho if you care a lot for this core, just get the good one

[paper orchid]

Button feel is a little different but it doesn't take long to get used to it

SNAC is a "maybe, eventually" thing for me

I have the one Todd suggested coming today

[woeful grove]

you can use an n64 to usb adapter as well

no idea how good those are

[paper orchid]

IIRC he said it felt pretty alright? I'm not incredibly picky on N64 controllers

[woeful grove]

anything is better than the original really

[paper orchid]

It does have both an N64 receiver and a USB receiver so if it works well, would be nice to have a second wireless one

[woeful grove]

I found a wavebird in a box on the street as I walking to the store a couple of months ago

those were better than n64

[rose elbow]

i'm little confused what 2-3 frames of lag means, when misteraddons doc says 15-20ms?

[lament escarp]

Turok in left handed mode, which I actually prefer being right handed.

[woeful grove]

the NSO snes ones? they are more like 35ms

a frame is around 16.6ms

[rose elbow]

i think i might just be dumb or something coz the NSO controllers feel fine to me

[paper orchid]

When will we get a USB version of this

[woeful grove]

I dunno about that. Maybe they improved the firmware or something, but they definitely had >30ms on pc

[rose elbow]

pc is different to mister but?

[paper orchid]

(i tried to get a higher quality photo but man, my iPad refuses to save this photo lmaooo)

[woeful grove]

it's one of the few controllers I can actually feel the latency of

[rose elbow]

weird

[mortal panther]

My N64 NSO controller via USB on MiSTer feels fine so far. No complaints on that front.

[chrome quest]

Hilariously better lag with SNES mini on a Wii controller than the NSO SNES then

[mortal panther]

I still picked up the Brawler64 NSO version though, because I've been wanting one for a long time, and now finally seemed like a good time.

[stuck summit]

I use NES/SNES mini pads with Ardwiino adapters, they have 1ms of lag

[mortal panther]

Thank you @woeful grove for your feedback on the Brawler64. It's what finally made me pull the trigger.

[mellow path]

I'm kind of surprised by how few people seem to be using a gamecube controller with the core. I guess there are a few games that aren't ideal with the c-stick but it's rarely that big of an issue. Maybe not a lot of smash players here?

[mortal panther]

Mainly because I don't have a USB adapter, otherwise I would.

I find the GC controller quite comfortable. Always have.

[mellow path]

Well Mayflash makes a 4 port one that works with pc/wiiu/switch, works without issue

[mortal panther]

Yeah, I'm aware. I've just had no need to use the controller on anything other than the first-gen Wii consoles I bought them for in the first place.

[orchid nimbus]

L or R one?

[mortal panther]

Z

[orchid nimbus]

nice 😄

[broken creek]

Retrobit Tribute is a great non-trident N64 controller too. It’s my go-to. I have a Brawler as well but I like the Tribute more.

[mortal panther]

Wow, that's a jacked up location for the D-pad.

[visual wadi]

Yep. I think the Tribute is awesome for folks that don't like the trident

i disliked the Brawler

[lone geyser]

I've heard only bad things about the Brawler's analog stick and wonderful things about the rest of it

[mortal panther]

Ah, looks like there is more than one version of the Tribute. This is the one I saw initially.

[wanton sun]

Möhren mit Fisch, but i doubt that's what you want to hear 🙂

[mortal panther]

I don't think I liked the sound of that...

[mellow path]

I'm just surprised more people don't have one hanging around than anything

[vagrant ivy]

My insta translation is Murder with Fish. But thats not based on any known translation !

[orchid nimbus]

good nutrition is important 😉

[vagrant ivy]

German !

[orchid nimbus]

ja dit is Nederlands - und kein Deutsch

[stuck summit]

The wireless version is outstanding.

[vagrant ivy]

Ah Google says Carrots with Fish

[devout leaf]

But not just the German. The Gerwomen and Gerchildren too.

[vagrant ivy]

Which means some Bugs Bunny Game is about to boot !

[wanton sun]

are there any on N64 i don't know off?

[vagrant ivy]

No Idea

[orchid nimbus]

LOL

thank god no

[wanton sun]

the psx ones have mostly been great, cannot complain

[vagrant ivy]

Based off you teaser of Carrots and fish !

[brisk drum]

Duck dodgers is the only looney tunes game that comes to mind on n64

[devout leaf]

The PAL exclusive Taz game

[brisk drum]

Is that on 64?

[mortal panther]

He will release the new test build... but first, we must bring him... a shrubbery!

[brisk drum]

Thought that was psx exclusive

[devout leaf]

Nope it’s N64 too

[vagrant ivy]

Hes clearly asking we all wave a carrot in the air

[devout leaf]

Actually only N64 I think

[lone geyser]

Could be working on Harvest Moon

[brisk drum]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Bunny_%26_Taz:_Time_Busters

[mortal panther]

I really hope there was no Carrot Top game...

[lone geyser]

Or OoT, honestly

[brisk drum]

Where is this so called teaser .. let me gaze upon it and divine it’s meaning

[vagrant ivy]

Hes not the Messiah hes a very naughty boy

[devout leaf]

Is that the same as Taz Express?

[wanton sun]

the reception is clear: Taz express is a very bad game. And great. And horrible. And wonderful

[brisk drum]

Nope

[devout leaf]

Gotcha

[brisk drum]

I trust super juegos

[devout leaf]

That’s quite a spread haha

[wanton sun]

i should try it. based on the ratings it's a mix of superman and zelda

[brisk drum]

Could be cool

[wanton sun]

oh wait, no PAL yet, ok i don't try it

[brisk drum]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Dodgers_Starring_Daffy_Duck

This is the only n64 looney tunes based game I can think of

[cerulean elk]

I kinda like Duck Dodgers

janky but charming

[brisk drum]

Same here , it’s one of those that still doesn’t boot at all

[broken creek]

Brawler’s D pad doesn’t have a center pivot. So you can mash multiple directions. Poor design for a “Fighting” controller

[worn delta]

You could get into play when I tried it about a week or so ago, but was pretty broken and graphics a mess

The set up is bizarre, Taz's wife bullies him into become a delivery man in the opening cut scenes. That is the set up...

[native mesa]

When you make it

[desert crow]

think I booted Taz, there might be a ntsc prototype

[wanton sun]

i should implement the PAL switch. It will also allow everyone to have fun with dumping their PAL pif as we will need both as boot.rom(ntsc) and boot1.rom(PAL)

[languid dune]

PAL is nobody's pal. 😤

[lone geyser]

I wonder if the RetroFighters Saturn pad is any good. It's not like you need L for anything, right?

Just map the left bumper to Z and you're off to the races

...NVM, the analogue stick is digitized

[brisk drum]

My 8bitdo fight stick works like gangbusters for fighting games

[daring meteor]

Don't forget PAL-M

[brisk drum]

Mace the dark age is so dope , it’s quickly becoming one of my favorites, kinda sad I didn’t own it as a kid

[cerulean elk]

You looking over my shoulder?

Was just looking at a capture

For a Sunday or Monday “games that just work right now” video

[brisk drum]

Use the phrase “works like gangbusters “ on the next vid please .. work it in there somewhere lol

Also I am tapped into your mainframe bro ..

https://tenor.com/view/no-names-hackers-gif-6059552

[broken creek]

Exactly. I really dislike the controllers from this company. There’s always some kind of compromise.

[languid dune]

🌮 creep'n like a creeper.

[lone geyser]

I want an OEM Saturn 3D pad anyways. I'll probably go that route

[brisk drum]

Secures yo shit Mario .. you next ..

[broken creek]

It’s a great arcade stick. I just wish the deck was larger on the left side where the joystick is.

[brisk drum]

Same .. I had to adjust how I grip my joystick

[languid dune]

You'll never hack into a Mac! They're hack proof! ||...is what I'd like to say.||

[vagrant ivy]

The Pal v NTSC wars have begun

[brisk drum]

Someone should 3d print some sort of extendobase for the 8bitdo

Just a little more palm room please

[languid dune]

I preferred the Yoda version.

[brisk drum]

NTSC WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL!

[broken creek]

That’s been a thought I’ve had. Wish I had @visual wadi skills with 3D printing design. 😉

[remote hatch]

I won't fight this time 😛

[brisk drum]

Europe stuck to pal because of their electric grid system .. which makes sense since that saved em during the Battle of Britain

[brisk drum]

Hope he calls it “the super extendobase”

[vagrant ivy]

Well at least we turned up at the start and not 3 years late !

[brisk drum]

Not sure I follow ..

[vagrant ivy]

its offtopic anyway

[brisk drum]

Yeah we don’t want to incur the wrath of the Robby .. the lion of MISTer discord

[lone geyser]

wdym? The war started with Pearl Harbor

[brisk drum]

Oh gawwwd no here we go …

[cerulean elk]

Works like a gangbang. Got it

[brisk drum]

Some say us involvement in the war started when congress enacted the lend lease act

[brisk drum]

Close enough

[languid dune]

Awbacon looking to get his channel flagged for adults only. Good bye ad revenue!

[brisk drum]

He don’t need it , he’s ballin with over 500 gold pieces

[lone geyser]

Can't imagine he does it for the cash

[languid dune]

Though if you want it flagged even faster, just say the words "Mortal Kombat". 😬

[brisk drum]

Yeah that game is terrible

[vagrant ivy]

turn the gifs down they dont add to a very active channel

[brisk drum]

Yeah Roger that

[languid dune]

I do genuinely feel bad for the Mortal Kombat content creators out there. There's no way they earn any money on Youtube.

[brisk drum]

Play a better game ..

[visual wadi]

Say what now? Is this the 8bitdo stick?

[brisk drum]

kinda bogus NR doesn’t add a “gore less” mode

When they totally could ..

[languid dune]

Get over here 🌮 ! 💀

[brisk drum]

But it would be insane to redo each animation and remove the organ removal and decapitations etc etc

And make it all Pg

It just isn’t gonna happen

[languid dune]

But they did add friendships!

[worn delta]

Is PAL-M the Brazil one?

[quiet nexus]

Yes

525-line (like NTSC) but with PAL chroma encoding

[worn delta]

Has it been confirmed to do anything different from the other two? I guess if there is no cost could be added to a switch

[languid dune]

Speaking of fighting games. I can't wait for N64's best fighting game to work on the MiSTer core. War Gods! It's the non MK MK game!

[cerulean elk]

Just ordered that Brawler 64 NSO controller. It’ll do Vs waiting for the damn real thing to come back in stock

[languid dune]

I remember renting it back in the day, and I was like...this is still just Mortal Kombat.

[cerulean elk]

Switch Pro is an exercise in confusion lol

[paper orchid]

I mean, I could... I have too many other projects lmao

[languid ore]

Can we start a petition to rename this core to the Ultra64 core?

[languid ore]

Nintendo should have stuck with the Ultra 64. Even the logo looked cool

[remote hatch]

I liked that name too

something ULTRA awesome hehe

[languid ore]

It must have changed super late given all the early marketing mentioning Ultra 64

[native mesa]

Yeah it was the logical next step after Super

[languid dune]

Ultra Mario Bros.

[tropic sand]

Just came across this.. Eveything about n64 blur ... https://www.retrorgb.com/n64blur.html

[languid ore]

Super Nintendo, Ultra 64.....MegaCube?

[cerulean elk]

Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Ultra 64, Epic Cube, Awesome Wii, Amazing Wii U, All Powerful Switch

Just keep upgrading the descriptors

[languid dune]

God-like Switch Pro

[thorny marten]

then they have to start combining them

the super ultra mega switch 2

[modern sleet]

Which is basically NTSC with the pal switching 90 degrees every other line

So it really only affects composite encoding

[worn delta]

Will running that pif have any impact on the core or games?

[languid dune]

Let our powers combine! Super! Ultra! Epic! Omega! With our powers combined, we are Captain Falcon!

[barren fiber]

This core is progressing very quickly, could someone update me, any game playlable?

[thorny marten]

speaking of captain falcon its awsome to be playing f-zero x on mister

[vagrant ivy]

check the pins for the compatibility chart

[versed cairn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8/edit#gid=786296019

[barren fiber]

oh, thank you , will check it out

[vagrant ivy]

dont mind the panda prints on the docs

[daring meteor]

Did someone check if there's a French PIF

[desert crow]

any game playable, you must be joking. Robert already beat Mario Kart 12 times

[brisk drum]

Le french pif

[cerulean elk]

Street Fighter but for Nintendo: Super Ultra Switch Pro Alpha Championship Edition Turbo

[versed cairn]

Banjo-kazooie is the most high profile beatable game. no random freezes. snowboard kids is a good hidden gem thats working really well too

[barren fiber]

poor robert, the worst mario kart must be a punishment

[vagrant ivy]

French Pif randomly goes on strike and burns down your N64

[cerulean elk]

He still gets Bomberman Hero at least

[zinc dew]

Checking this thread has become my daily routine lol

I love this core and the community here!

❤️

[daring meteor]

Do you love the French PIF

[vagrant ivy]

lies you post the same thing to Saturn !

[viscid nebula]

Professor oak is not amused

[zinc dew]

I just tell them that to keep the barbarians at bay. If we anger them they’ll be sure to destroy us all.

[viscid nebula]

Lol game froze after that

[zenith orchid]

oh this definitely helps a lot. my only issue now is that I have to move the stick a little bit before it even registers anything. but that may be a DS3 issue

[orchid nimbus]

what will this weekend bring us in terms of core stuff?

[cloud peak]

You’re back

[viscid nebula]

🤫

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-shh-quiet-hush-shut-up-gif-21648270

@viscid nebula tha'ts more like you ^^

[viscid nebula]

🤣🤣🤣

[mortal panther]

Hopefully proper SRAM support implemented.

[viscid nebula]

Idk I kinda like making professor oak sweat

This is… awful!

[stoic parcel]

[mild ether]

HACKS FOREVER

[lament escarp]

Please give feedback to @lone geyser and @bronze tree, they're working on it and can tweak it.

[mild ether]

I kinda enjoy finding them at least.

[worn delta]

PAL support would be neat if easy to implement, be good to start testing those versions even if the exclusives aren't much to write home about

[viscid nebula]

lemonici's mister build worked great for my usb n64 sticks

so much better

[orchid nimbus]

mine has such a short travel time before it registers as 'FULLY PUSHED!!!!'

[viscid nebula]

🤣

1...2....10

[worn delta]

Really hoping we get Rumble support soon now games are becoming full playable, definitely want that for an OOT playthrough or the Stone of Agony won't work

[viscid nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone-temper-ten-percent-acey-said-bargaining-gif-16273405

[languid dune]

But how often do you check the Saturn thread!?

[viscid nebula]

No rumble for me

Why even have the clip lol

[orchid nimbus]

this almost looks like a dity picture

[viscid nebula]

xD

look in my controller's holes

spread open for you

[languid dune]

If you're not rumbling, are you really living kando?

[viscid nebula]

no, I'm not

[mild ether]

I really owned a Saturn and haven't tried the core yet. I am a horrible fan.

[mellow path]

https://www.romhacking.net/reviews/5570/ <--- if rumble takes a while, this includes a Stone of Agony Patch

[unkempt yarrow]

going back and forth from this core via component and an original through S-video and the difference in clarity is insane

[fiery grove]

i don't know if someone answered yet, but you need to use the N64_sramstub.rbf (it's on pinned messages) if you want to use the USA version of F-Zero X, doesn't save yet but it loads the game and it plays so well

[native mesa]

Is that Bankoo Kablooie?

[little bane]

Has anyone noticed that there is a white flashing effect on the screen when playing banjo Kazooie?

[orchid nimbus]

FAQ updated:
Currently FPGAZumSpass is working on the chips that run N64 Software - compatibility is medium and growing.

[daring meteor]

Yes

[little bane]

Yes

[opaque grotto]

Do you need the latest unstable nightly for the new N64 core pinned here to work properly? Mario 64 and F-Zero are crashing after the initial boot screen for me.

[mortal panther]

...and growing, at a medium pace.

[daring meteor]

Mario 64 needs a patch

F Zero needs the pin. You can also use Chinese F Zero instead and it will work

[lone geyser]

Interesting. There's a baked in deadzone in the MiSTer binary but we didn't mess with it

[little bane]

Forget it is the shadow mask, I think the core is disabled the adaptive scanlines

[zenith orchid]

Actually, I don't see that issue with F-Zero, only on Mariokart

[fair stump]

That's correct, adaptive scanlines are currently disabled/removed to free up space

[fiery grove]

i find f-zero with my ps5 controller too sensitive, i don't know if i lost the experience with the game or need to adjust the deadzone

maybe i need to play a little more to get used to the sensitive

[zenith orchid]

Yeah most of the time you only need to nudge the analog stick

In that way it feels a lot like you're operating an extremely fast vehicle

[lone geyser]

Are you using the analog scaling binary?

[fiery grove]

f-zero on expert and master demands a surgeon precision with the stick as far i remember

[vapid moat]

Was directed to that build already but thank you anyway~

[mellow path]

Does the iQue FZero save?

[fiery grove]

don't know about that, i just configured my controller on MiSTer's joystick configuration and the core

[balmy dagger]

#1046941029296779344 is @zinc dew 's secret second family out west. 🤐

[eternal island]

i can't say this is a medium pace lol

fast af

[lone geyser]

Markun has made more changes but this is the one I can link you to right now. Should fix sensitivity
#controllers message

[fiery grove]

thanks! i'll check it out

[mortal panther]

Was in response to his compatibility is medium statement. It's an old Adam Sandler reference. A shampoo bottle was involved, if memory serves... 😏

[eternal island]

man pops in every day with "added another function, new games probably work. maybe not. who knows. new core!"

[zenith orchid]

I have to say I love it for F-Zero. With MK64 it might take me some more getting used to

[lone geyser]

It might be a situation where MiSTer's deadzone and the software deadzone are overlapping and causing problems that you didn't notice when the stick was more sensitive

Double Jeopardy

[orchid nimbus]

how feasible is it to have a mister calibration for analogue sticks that will translate into the cores - or the cores themselves have a calibration tool

1 16 32 64 65535 is a bit too extreme for me 😄

[chrome quest]

I wonder if that text was ever seen before now. I don't think that cart uses a battery save?

[viscid nebula]

Good question

Could be unseen stuff!

[mortal apex]

Thank you for leaving this bit of info. I wanted to see how Kaze's splitscreen hack for mario 64 would run on the core, it kinda works:

[viscid nebula]

Holy crap

My kids are gonna flip

[mortal apex]

Its not very fun to play atm cause it crashes often, but I was able to pick up a star and save my progress

[viscid nebula]

Nice!

Have you tried setting cache delay to 10?

Eases up the crashes

[mortal apex]

No, I'll try that it might help a bit. Sadly the framerate is choppy but its still playable.
Edit: Can confirm, setting cache delay to 10 really helps with the crashes but the game gets even choppier ofc.

[viscid nebula]

[wanton sun]

Now i can start 🙂

[zenith orchid]

Whoever did the voice of peach in this hack, hope they also add her voice to MK64. MK64 peach sounds like they couldn't find a female voice actor in time for the release

[orchid nimbus]

nice s-ram!!

[supple musk]

@paper orchid lol i notice that you are here too 😉

hype for n64 fpga

[mortal panther]

Well, that's the last we'll hear from him for a few days... 😏

[supple musk]

he can take as long as he wants. he's doin god's work

considering the timeline he can take as long of a break between updates as he wants, he's earned it as far as i'm concerned

[zenith orchid]

Sounds like he's made some pretty big fixes

[wanton sun]

only sram 🙂

both functionality and save/load to sdcard

[daring meteor]

Robert rocking that Middle Eastern weekend I see

[desert crow]

productivity is about to drop 😀

[paper orchid]

oh hey clue!!!

[supple musk]

hiii!

[paper orchid]

small world but also i forgot you had a mister setup at your place lmao

I remember commenting on it too

[supple musk]

i'm definitely a diehard member of the fpga cult ngl

[fiery grove]

nice!

[brisk drum]

ROBERT HAS DONE DID IT AGAIN YALL!

[orchid nimbus]

yeah and one day to soon too

[fiery grove]

Robert when starts to code

[orchid nimbus]

did you know that he hates GIFs?

[fiery grove]

oh damn

[orchid nimbus]

especially the repeating ones 😄

which is all of them 😄

that's why I post them an remove them 30 seconds later

[fiery grove]

i'll deleted it then, he makes me so happy with the n64 core so i don't want to disturb 😅 😂

[tidal glade]

Robert does what nintendon't

[wanton sun]

i found out that clicking outside the browser window will stop them, life saver

[brisk drum]

Ha haven’t posted a gif in ages !

The rest of you oughta be ashamed

[orchid nimbus]

there is something about repeating stuff that really annoys me as well - I mean you have 'annoyed' and 'ANNOYED!!!!!!' I tend to be more towards 'ANNOYED!!'

[wanton sun]

i mean, it's not my channel, not my rules. Still i'm not angry to see less repeating gif honestly

[fiery grove]

wait, i didn't know it, but, why discord is blocking my messages when i try to put Ques....64

[orchid nimbus]

YUP

[wanton sun]

because Robby wants to laugh

[fiery grove]

lol

[orchid nimbus]

Qvest64 is blocked

actually Kitrinx did that

[carmine kettle]

overrated game lol

[daring meteor]

Behold, a repeating gif

[woeful grove]

IDKWYM

[daring meteor]

I can type Holy Magic Century perfectally fine what do you mean

[orchid nimbus]

I didn't even put a @ in front of your name

[woeful grove]

I'm like the eye of sauron

[fiery grove]

@orchid nimbus the updateN64 script updates the core only or download the latest n64 database too?

[orchid nimbus]

you need to manually do that for now

[zinc dew]

To be transparent I only do my shtick to keep conversation and excitement going.

[fiery grove]

thanks

[orchid nimbus]

I'll update the script when I have time and give it a version number like the cores do

[fiery grove]

i always do it after i run the script

[daring meteor]

WHAT

[orchid nimbus]

it does it automatically

[eternal island]

see what i mean

every day

lol

i can't wait to play oot through mister. very excited about that

[native mesa]

No it has to be in German

[cold pollen]

There are daemonbite and reflex available I believe

[eternal island]

But does this fix oot getting into game i wonder

Or just saves

Only one way to find out...

[pallid falcon]

New test build is out

[wanton sun]

does not fix oot, but gamecube version and masterquest works

[eternal island]

ah man why'd ya have to tell me

i just fired up the mister

lol

[wanton sun]

sorry 😦

[languid dune]

Insert GTA "Aw &$#^, here we go again!" GIF.

Let the testing begin!

[eternal island]

gotta find me the gc version though

[daring meteor]

Robert does it again haha

[wanton sun]

probably no new games will work compared to yesterdays second build, but you can save now

[daring meteor]

Now to see what SRAM is

[cerulean elk]

I win this round with presumptive voice overs lol

[desert crow]

where's regular oot hangup now?

[wanton sun]

instant

[cerulean elk]

And now if you’ll excuse me I’m gonna go waste too much time on Ocarina Lolol

[daring meteor]

Was Dezaemon 3D tested?

[quick arch]

Thank you 🙂

[pallid falcon]

Are all save types are now supported (SRAM, flash, EEPROM)?

[wanton sun]

flash not yet

controller pak also not

but missing flash might not crash the games anymore

[pallid falcon]

I haven't had time to test the last few updates, but it's the weekend and the time is now

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew maybe it’s time to pin this “what games save how piece” http://micro-64.com/database/gamesave.shtml

That link should be helpful when people want to know what game utilizes what type of save tech

[desert crow]

someone will post a list of flash games to be tested. see

[compact depot]

Is this the OOT Friday build?

[gritty current]

I have this version : https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/brawler64-nextgen-n64-controller-colors-v2/
with a N64 to USB adapter and it seems pretty good, though I can't get any of the extra buttons to work as a MiSTer menu button

[eternal island]

there we go. trying the gc version

[languid dune]

Yesss! F-Zero X both boots and saves now! 🎉

Robert, you are my hero!

[daring meteor]

Time and time again hahaha

[hollow rune]

Mario Golf booted for the first time

then crashed at the intro

[languid dune]

Smash Bros. both boots and saves as well!

[cerulean elk]

Lol excited for the same game multiple times. You really are a fan

[pallid falcon]

Don't worry, Vivid Dolls will be the first game I test*

*lol no

[prime kernel]

I apologize if this is answered somewhere, but is there a fix to Mario 64 crashing at boot screen?

[pallid falcon]

Although some of the other A;eck 64 titles were booting, but not playable

[fiery grove]

thanks! Robert, one question, the SRAM saves and load automatically or have to do it manually?

[cerulean elk]

Check pins. You need no face ips patch

[worn delta]

Vivid Dolls booted into something the other day when I tested the Aleck64 games

Can't believe we can already play and save a Zelda game. Next level stuff.

[pallid falcon]

I'm sure it did 👀

[wanton sun]

like all cores do: autosave in osd set to on and open OSD before turning mister off

[fiery grove]

got it, thanks!

[worn delta]

I was joking when I said months back we would have a playable N64 from Robert before we can play anything on NGP, it wasn't a challenge. 🙂

[pallid falcon]

The US games seems pretty well tested, I'll revist the Japanese exclusives (and the PAL ones again, why not)

[cerulean elk]

I talk about that today in the video at 4 CST; feels like back in the day when I got the game new again. That level of excitement

[pallid falcon]

Ooh it works now. I tested it 500 core updates ago (two weeks)

[opaque grotto]

Standard F-Zero X rom now boots for me. Just played a race. chef's kiss

[thick terrace]

US Prototype TAZ

[languid dune]

I now think of Robert when I listen to this song. And yes, I am listening to it while testing F-Zero X.
https://youtu.be/-L0pW3Eol6k?si=X7fY1_l6uPcepCpZ

[cerulean elk]

Oh no lol

[worn delta]

The prototypes on the sheet would be well worth a test at this point

[languid dune]

Forever he will be my herooo! 🎶

[pallid falcon]

I tested 40 Winks and Ronaldo a week or so ago

[worn delta]

Might be worth trying revisions of games as well, things are moving so quickly

[thick terrace]

I played a little. I watched the demo for a few minutes. I thing after a couple cycles through the scenes it hung.

[fiery grove]

the OST for F-Zero X it's incredibly, why listen other themes?

[languid dune]

It's still F-Zero!

[fiery grove]

yeah, that's for sure

[thick terrace]

The europe version of taz says it not for my system. Why do we have region lock?

[pallid falcon]

I wonder if MAME 64 and Super Bomberman 2 will now let me choose menu items

[wanton sun]

wrong pif, you could try with pal

[eternal island]

this feels so bizarre playing oot on mister

i never thought id see it

[worn delta]

That's odd am sure Taz worked with my NTSC pif

[thick terrace]

I had a hard time finding a us pif, now I have to find a euro version?

[languid dune]

Got to the character select in Mario Golf. Crashed as soon as I picked a character.

[worn delta]

Just look for no intro pack on archive, they were all added there

[thick terrace]

I'll look

[desert crow]

Nice job FPGAzumSpass with getting saves working. I think people will be able to get into those games now since you can save progress. and it great progress overall

[orchid nimbus]

update_n64 is ready to be ran

[vapid hawk]

does update_n64 get you a main mister with the analog range clamping?

[cerulean elk]

Anyone give 1080 the old whirl yet? I’m not in my studio to check currently

[languid dune]

Didn't boot still.

[cerulean elk]

Well…I have a plumber here. So I can’t just be like “yo gonna go test a game in the other room” 🤣

[cerulean elk]

Noted! Thx

Shower is less of a shower and more like a swimming pool 😬

[desert crow]

is his name Mario Mario?

[fair stump]

I've had that issue, feels so much better when it's fixed

[languid dune]

Ogre Battle 64 does boot now by the way. It doesn't get far, but it does boot.

[eternal island]

man this feels so much better than when i played on a soft emu, and is on par with playing ship of harkinian in n64 mode

[cerulean elk]

I’ve gotten it to boot then it freezes pretty quick

[cerulean elk]

I dunno. But he did offer me shrooms (he did not…but half our shower has been dismantled and it’s sitting on the floor next to him. This might take a minute)

[eternal island]

just ask em if he likes n64

and pray he says yes

bring em with ya

👍

[pallid falcon]

Tell him that Robert has released another update - he'll probably drop his tools and ask to play Mario Kart

[languid dune]

Awbacon asking the plumber. D...do you like N64? I like N64. Wanna see something neat?

[cerulean elk]

Whips out his MiSTer

[quick arch]

what is this game ?

[cerulean elk]

What is this erotic FPGA fiction?

[pallid falcon]

Whips out something analogue from his pocket

[orchid nimbus]

Vivid Dolls?

[cerulean elk]

I’m just worried he’s gonna have to open up the wall 😩

Or the floor

[languid dune]

Still no Rush 2049 either.

[cerulean elk]

Water has been chilling for 24 hours and going NOWHERE

[languid dune]

That's one moist tub.

[pallid falcon]

That's some dank water

[cerulean elk]

So that’s how my day is going 🤣

[languid dune]

Tell your wife to shave her head.

It's the only logical solution.

[pallid falcon]

Ask the plumber if he wants a buck bumble

[desert crow]

you might have to jump in a warp pipe

[cerulean elk]

That’s after I used some chemical that smelled like egg farts. @manic basin heard that saga in DMs. It was BAD!

[nova grotto]

Does anyone else have RE2 freezing ? It wasn't freezing for me before I mean before getting to the main menu

[fiery grove]

i have that problem too

hate when happens

[languid dune]

Whoa, Shiren the Wanderer 2 boots now!

[worn delta]

A top tip is to look for the .pif files on the no intro pack on archive

[cerulean elk]

Playable?

[pallid falcon]

"would you like a bangai?" "oh."

[languid dune]

So far yeah.

[sudden pumice]

Gosh, why do I always forget about archive?

[daring meteor]

Koppa Troppa

[cerulean elk]

Awesome. Game deserves more recognition that it gets

[worn delta]

What game is that?

[wanton sun]

unfortunatly hangs at boot for some reason, but works if i give it a savestate from main menu

[cerulean elk]

Welp the toilets gotta come out now too. Pray for me everyone 🤣

[orchid nimbus]

you're going to need a new wax ring

[pallid falcon]

Beware the toilet kids (wrong 'cistern' I know)

[languid dune]

Wow yeah, Shiren is totally playable.

[cerulean elk]

I’m gonna need to walk to Whole Foods 🤣 we have but one toilet Lolol

[languid dune]

I'm beating them monsters with a club right now.

[pallid falcon]

You don't have a Jaguar CD to hand?

[latent galleon]

was shiren 2 even release outside of japan?

[languid dune]

It wasn't, but the fan translation is working great.

Saves too.

[latent galleon]

yeah i've played through it, couldn't remember if it was translated or not

silly that it stayed at home

[zenith orchid]

didn't you say it crashes before it accesses sram? 😮

[languid dune]

Actually it seems that Shiren doesn't save. The OSD says that it saved, but the game says that the journal has disappeared and I had to start over.

[worn delta]

Do you get any error codes with master quest or OOT GameCube now?

[tidal zenith]

classic video

[pallid falcon]

Nice FMV for a N64

[desert crow]

did anyone try any of the flashrom games from this list to see if they did anything new? <#1096015979055697940 message>

[orchid nimbus]

Tinkerbell in OOT is as annoying as ever

[worn delta]

I am out for the night, at the pub for Scotland playing Cypress in the Euro qualifiers so no N64 fun for me. Just no doubt 90 minutes of stress.

[orchid nimbus]

hello - hey - hey listen

[worn delta]

Wait until the owl turns up...

[pallid falcon]

I read that as you are playing Gyruss for Scotland

[wanton sun]

normal oot still doesn't work

[languid dune]

Love that The New Tetris is playable now as well. Such a great version of Tetris.

[worn delta]

Hah, that would be less stressful than watching Scotland play football

[daring meteor]

Did you try loading a savestate for normal OOT?

[zenith orchid]

oh yeah the gamecube oot I forgot about that one

[dreamy ridge]

Have you tried the lasagne? it's my favorite. GIMME THAT

[manic basin]

His youtube channel is a trip. Made a whole personality out of being in that video.

[wanton sun]

i think it's pointless anyway to boot normal oot currently as it has the same random hangs as mario64

while gamecube version doesn't have them

[hexed knot]

How'd you get Mario Golf to boot? Savestate?

[viscid nebula]

poor top 2 games

[daring meteor]

Considering the games are similar it might be worthwhile to check

[cerulean elk]

Ooh nice! Tetrisphere is fun but I don’t think in 3D lol

[sudden pumice]

If I don't want to run the update_N64.sh (because I'm too scared to run unstable), can I just grab the latest RBF from #test-builds and follow the other instructions from Vampier to get the core running?

[manic basin]

Ooh, the text line artifacts in Animal Forest are cleaned up!

[stuck summit]

I did that.

[worn delta]

You can easily switch back to stable again but running regular update script or update all

[cerulean elk]

Unstable sound scary. It’s not. Rename your MiSTer file to mister.old and just drop unstable in as MiSTer. It’s foolproof (I’ve had zero YT viewers screw it up. So it’s genuinely safe)

[stuck summit]

I backed up my stable MiSTer and pasted the unstable in the main folder. All good

[languid dune]

Damn, I'd forgotten just how modern The New Tetris is in its mechanics. It has the ghost pieces at the bottom of the well, and the hard drop.

[native mesa]

Has anyone tried CRT? Is the modeline not needed anymore?

[zinc dew]

Please read:

I know we’re all excited for this core but we should keep expectations in-check. @wanton sun mentioned that we might have a playable N64 game by December so please be patient until then.

[languid dune]

Is it the first Tetris game with the hard drop?

[sudden pumice]

You ran the latest n64 test build without unstable MiSTer, or you ran unstable MiSTer?

[stuck summit]

had to use unstable

I backed up stable though so if I ran into any issue in other cores you can always revert

[eternal island]

darn. almost beat the deku tree

locked up just as i was about to fight gohma

[cerulean elk]

We’ve learned that Robert is not trustworthy. He lied to us all. I don’t see no Christmas trees!

[daring meteor]

Very important

[languid dune]

Hmm...if you don't see no Christmas trees. Does that mean you do see them!?

[pallid falcon]

This time next year Robert may have released working CD-i, 3DO and Jag cores

[cerulean elk]

I didn’t hear no Christmas Bell!

[zinc dew]

lol thank you for finding the post

[orchid nimbus]

what's going on with her eyes?

[languid dune]

Get the plumber to knock you upside your head Bacon!

[eternal island]

she is the living embodiment of the crash stalking you throughout the game

only a matter of time before it gets ya

[sudden pumice]

Okay, I'll give it a whirl. Presumably this changes nothing on the Linux side, right? I guess my big fear is that all of the symlinks I set up ages ago for my CIFS folders will somehow get broken.

[viscid nebula]

remember when pacman all of a sudden worked on the core?

[cerulean elk]

Ugh I hope he’s done soon

[viscid nebula]

just like oh

a game works

[daring meteor]

Will not change anything

[zinc dew]

So Zelda works but only the Master Quest and GameCube versions?

[daring meteor]

Trust me, as someone who has cifs

[eternal island]

seems to work with random crashing

[mortal apex]

On my end the osd is back to it's normal size, but the picture still has offset lines. Will keep using your modeline 🙂

[eternal island]

similar to mario 64

[orchid nimbus]

updated the FAQ withn that quote

[zinc dew]

LMAO

[daring meteor]

lmao

[pallid falcon]

Is there an option to change the region (without perhaps renaming boot.rom)? Permier Manager 64 complains it isn't a PAL system

[daring meteor]

Renaming boot.rom (Or asking Robert to add the toggle he's been talking about for a while)

[fiery grove]

lol it's real, i tought it was an edit

[pallid falcon]

Maybe the database could tell the core to run a PAL model

[viscid nebula]

super smash bros works now o.o

someone should update the excel sheet

[daring meteor]

It could tell once he or someone else adds the toggle

[pallid falcon]

Some of us are

[zenith orchid]

can't get enough of the mute city music

[brisk drum]

Someone started slanging mad trees in the Koriri forest

[languid dune]

Smash Remix also works!

[viscid nebula]

😮

[brisk drum]

That’s been true since yesterday

[cerulean elk]

that worked yesterday too. I have a touch of footage of it coming in at 4 today

with a lot more for a future vid

[brisk drum]

But now you can save !

[eternal island]

i was playing around in smash remix yesterday. seemed to work fine. i'm wondering though.. is the random crashing in every game or just a few

i'm going to open a few and just let it sit there

[languid dune]

The big wrestling games also work now. WCW-nWo Revenge and WWF No Mercy.

[dreamy ridge]

oh BABY

[languid dune]

My friend was obsessed with those games back in the day.

[daring meteor]

WWF No Mercy is a flash game

[cerulean elk]

Ric Flair will be in the vid at 4

[paper orchid]

I never understood the N64 wrestling games but yeah, I know someone big into them

[cerulean elk]

and I dont really talk about the games so much as I do how great Ric Flair is lolol

[paper orchid]

Growing up it almost kinda felt like...core to the N64's identity to me

[pallid falcon]

Half of the European exclusives now boot (and require a PAL model to run)

[languid dune]

You could say he has a flair for the theatrics!

[dreamy ridge]

WOOO!

[wanton sun]

yes, thankfully markun already implemented all options to be written automatically, but i didn't have the logic behind already. Maybe soon, let's see

[pallid falcon]

There's no great rush, we can always change the boot file

[wanton sun]

but then you got 60hz and wrong audio speed and all

[cerulean elk]

they dont call him Nature Boy for nothing

[pallid falcon]

Good point.

[plush summit]

Poor Flair, financially not spiritually.

[languid dune]

Sorry, missed this. It's Shiren the Wanderer 2.

[thick terrace]

why does Penny Racers (and Choro Q) flip the car when you change directions left/right?

[zinc dew]

Because you don’t have a better car and they thought that was a “fun design element”

[thick terrace]

They were mistaken

[zinc dew]

lmao yup

[pallid falcon]

64 Hanafuda - Tenshi no Yakusoku now boots

[zinc dew]

Choro Q is an investment. You slog through using shitty cars and gameplay until you finally get to the good cars to have a okay time.

[thick terrace]

oooooo. what does 64 Hanafuda - Tenshi no Yakusoku mean

[zinc dew]

It’s a Japanese card game

[viscid nebula]

how have I never heard of smash remix

[thick terrace]

DO any of the golf games work yet?

[viscid nebula]

this is insane

[pallid falcon]

Yes, hanafuda card game