Nintendo 64

[torpid hamlet]

This was actually the first time I ever did a clear on Easy, so Idk if that also happens in OG hardware

But it caused the helicopter sounds to keep playing while I was fighting the three big mechs that jump around when you hit them, and the third one flies up in the air

[dusty tusk]

Looks like the core can't handle these 60mb DD roms

[daring meteor]

Maybe will be able to but later

[solemn kayak]

Playing some Star Fox 64, and it's a dream so far with the latest version today

[paper orchid]

though, shit, do i still have my hdmi splitter

I'll find it rofl

[solemn kayak]

I'm about to got buy an N64 controller on Amazon, heh

[paper orchid]

I'm buying that one that Todd brought up, curious how well it'll feel

[orchid nimbus]

which one was that @paper orchid

[paper orchid]

#1096015979055697940 message This one?

[solemn kayak]

There are slowdowns still, but graphically it's looking really nice

[pallid falcon]

The NSO ones are in stock on the UK site

[thick terrace]

any new games working?

[pallid falcon]

F-Zero, Zelda, Smash

[solemn kayak]

Do you need a rom hack for Smash? Mine is freezing on load

[orchid nimbus]

ique version

[carmine kettle]

you try sram build, look at the pin

[manic basin]

I was able to use the Smash Remix (as mentioned earlier in the thread by someone) and it's working very well.

[solemn kayak]

ahh, thanks

[paper orchid]

Alright, think I got this in a position to record. My setup was done in a way to push to Youtube for streaming rhythm games so I'll just record straight to Youtube

[solemn kayak]

now we're in business

[torpid hamlet]

Sweet

God this 2-1 sucks

Uh oh

[paper orchid]

I'm going to be really bad I'm sure

I am rusty

[fiery grove]

anyone tried those N64 replica usb cheap controllers from amazon?

[zinc dew]

Ok I’ve been out of it

The sram stub is like an interim build?

[fiery grove]

i can't decide if wait for SNAC, or buy the 8bitdo DIY for N64 or look for another option 😂 , i'm exploring looking for a middlespot

[stone pilot]

#1096015979055697940 message

[compact depot]

AIDS is better than those. Stay away!

[native mesa]

I think the original controller is dope

What could have been

[hexed knot]

Just a fun build to fun around with, just for us in the discord. Full SRAM build ETA this weekend.

[zinc dew]

I pulled it down and was blown away that F-Zero was full speed and looked perfect

But I had to head out so I didn’t play it much

How wild is that

[solemn kayak]

F-Zero full speed!

[fiery grove]

thanks, they're dead to me then

[hexed knot]

I kinda want to download it, but part of me just wants to wait.

[quaint rune]

dont mind my crappy platforming, its been awhile since i touched mario 64 controls

[serene vessel]

Has anyone tried using a Hori Octa fighting commander with the n64 core? It has everything you'd need to replicate an n64 controller

[paper orchid]

At the Kachua fight now

[torpid hamlet]

In 3-1 now

[paper orchid]

I hate Xbox style triggers for Z button in this game lmao

I'm letting every cutscene play in full as a safety

[native mesa]

The music is poorly mixed with SE in that mod

[hexed knot]

Okay I immediately went against what I said and tried it for FZero. I didn't realize full speed meant locked 60 FPS.

that is cool

[solemn kayak]

I went with that $33 wireless N64, coming tomorrow

[mortal panther]

I was curious about that as well. Specifically, can the D-pad be used separately from the analog stick.

Not knowing that was the main reason I went with the NSO N64 pad.

I'll probably end up getting one anyway.

[paper orchid]

Pretty awful 1-3 but whatever

[mortal panther]

I've liked all of the HORI Fighting Commander pads I've gotten so far, especially the 4. The 3 had an odd shape, but I learned to like it. They're all pretty comfortable to use for extended periods, and the D-pads are excellent.

[serene vessel]

I have one. I can test it out if no one has.

[mortal panther]

That would be very much appreciated.

[paper orchid]

2-1 here we gooo

[quaint rune]

yeah a little popcorn coming through

[solemn kayak]

Is there a trick to the save state / restore state? I always end up with a black screen on restore

[dusty tusk]

F-Zero X is criminally underrated. It's a very snappy racer

[solemn kayak]

Yeah, very tight controls

[neat sierra]

What is the penalty for under rating n64 games? Death?

Having to play n64 games?

[serene vessel]

Turok64

[mortal panther]

Play Saturn.

[neat sierra]

Noooooooooooooooo

[solemn kayak]

Hey, there's a good dozen or so timeless ones in there

[neat sierra]

TACO GET HIM

[paper orchid]

First death lmaooo

I'm so rusty

[zinc dew]

What are you playing

[vapid hawk]

turok64 is ok , just don't make me play castlevania64

[zinc dew]

Ok play Legacy of Darkness

[mortal panther]

I would suggest forcing them to develop a CD-i core... but then that's punishment for everyone else, too.

[solemn kayak]

castlevania 64 goty every year

[vapid hawk]

castlevania64 is actually the first castlevania i ever played lol

i was like... er, why does everyone like this series its terrible

[zinc dew]

Castlevania for the 64 is better than Symphony of the Night

[hexed knot]

I would assume the trick is to not use it, I believe it's just a stub to get past the checks the games require to boot, and doesn't include the functionality to actually save.

[cold pollen]

I'm almost crazy enough to agree with this

[vapid hawk]

thankfully i played a gba one not long after and then i got it

[torpid hamlet]

Oof that was an awful 3-3

[zinc dew]

Castlevania for the 64 is better than the entire GBA library combined

[torpid hamlet]

Still, just finished @paper orchid

[hexed knot]

Smash also pegged at 60, how cool.

[vapid hawk]

it is on real hardware too right?

[zinc dew]

yeah

GEWD GAEM

[solemn kayak]

Sorry, I'm trying to take in all the information about the core still. I thought I saw that it supports save states now, and assumed it was fully implemented

[paper orchid]

👍

[manic basin]

No, it supports EEPROM saves in-game

[paper orchid]

I keep taking hits because 360 style triggers are not good for this game

[manic basin]

Save States are still emulator only.

[vapid hawk]

yeah savestates isn't in

[mortal panther]

Oddly enough, even though I had a NES ever since it was released, my first Castlevania game was Bloodlines on the Genesis.

[paper orchid]

I'm gonna be a bit I'm sure rofl

[torpid hamlet]

Despite being a 1cc, I majorly messed up levels 2 and 3

[manic basin]

LOADING save states works, though.

[torpid hamlet]

2-1 and 3-1 were rough

[manic basin]

But only Robert can make them, currently.

[paper orchid]

Brad has been defenestrated

And yeah I'm definitely nowhere near 1CC here lmao

[zinc dew]

If you’re a MiSTer Platinum subscriber you can make save states

[paper orchid]

I miss my N64 controller 😭

[torpid hamlet]

1cc Hard mode was REALLY rough

[serene vessel]

Is there a preferred rom type? I gave it sm64 as a z64 file and it's a black screen

[torpid hamlet]

Very happy to have gotten that once upon a time

[zinc dew]

Which game?

[paper orchid]

I should try grinding this game out again, I've forgotten so many of the strats

[serene vessel]

Mario 64

Just trying something I figure is somewhat tested

[vapid hawk]

you need an ips patch to run mario64 still, it's in the pins

[serene vessel]

Ah noted

[torpid hamlet]

Is there a way to load saves for the core?

I need to see how Frame Skip and Turbo work lmao

[celest timber]

wow did they remove the anti alising and the games look so good on this core ?

[cold pollen]

okay you lost me

[cerulean elk]

haha so few people figure it out

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew must be on a mission to be hated lol

I love CV64 and Legacy of Darkness. There are not as good as the GBA titles

[zinc dew]

Castlevania for the N64 is better than Bomberman Hero

[thick terrace]

I'm using a noname usb n64 style controller I got on ebay for $14. Seems to work ok

[hexed knot]

I can make crazy assertions too. Superstar Saga is better than every Castlevania.

[cerulean elk]

Robby clearly had a stroke. Someone call in a welfare check

[cold pollen]

I just don't like SOTN so it's easy to convince me other games are better

DM me if you want more hot takes and want to hate me

[serene vessel]

i tried waverace64 just now and still get a blank screen

[paper orchid]

OK yeah, I need a different control setup for this game lmao

[serene vessel]

if i'm not using a bog standard video_mode setup is that going to affect things?

i'm using a Dell 4:3 LCD so i have some esoteric settings to get it working

[paper orchid]

@torpid hamlet Let me work on getting controls sorted and I'll resume Normal in a bit, stopping at 2-2

I am doing terribly

[torpid hamlet]

Sounds good, go for it

[languid dune]

Go home Robby. You're drunk!

I think Robby is setting us up for another turnabout. #general-banter message

[cerulean elk]

Robby for Village Idiot 2023

Robby in 24 hours "Super Mario 64 is overrated. Bubsy 3D is the best"

[modern sleet]

[languid dune]

Jumping Flash for life!

[cerulean elk]

I mean Jumping Flash IS a banger

[paper orchid]

i forgot about button layout 3

[zinc dew]

Super Mario 64 is overrated. Bubsy 3D is the best

[manic basin]

I never could unlock Whoopie Goldberg in it thought. Despite being a gas, gas, gas.

[dreamy ridge]

dew you LIKE...my rabbit?

[serene vessel]

do the games need to be zipped?

[cerulean elk]

I prefer unlocking Ted Dansen in Smash Bros

[manic basin]

Three Men Beat a Baby

[dreamy ridge]

patrick duffey, a secret character in 007 goldeneye

[cerulean elk]

is the cardboard cutout ghost one of their assists? (deep cut references here)

[manic basin]

Yeah, but when you play him it was always a dream at the end.

[manic basin]

Haunted by cardboard! One of my favorite 'actually very easily explained' hollywood myths.

[cerulean elk]

that was all the news talked about for a week I swear. Back when I was a kid

[manic basin]

It was the new 'a munchkin can be seen hanging' legend.

[fiery grove]

Thanks for the feedback, do you have the Ebay link?

[paper orchid]

Alright, Brad's dead

Moving fire off of a trigger and onto a button makes this so much easier on a modern controller

[cerulean elk]

Now I just want a Cheers fighting game

[paper orchid]

Though I really need Jump on a different button, I'm having to claw grip a bit

[manic basin]

Do we get Fraiser DLC?

[paper orchid]

oh hey it's that thing from ikaruga radiant silvergun

[cerulean elk]

Lillith is the boss of the game

[manic basin]

I'm really finding the N64 controller is uniquely suited to N64 games as well. I'm remapping per game to get it to feel 'right.' I really hope my stick replacements come soon.

[serene vessel]

If I'm getting a black screen with any game I try and I've installed the boot.rom in the games folder, what else can I try?

[paper orchid]

Damnit, died at the end of that

And yeah, the issue I have is that on a modern controller I need a good place for jump, but also strafe, but also shoot

And the N64 controller is great for that, but not this pad

I missed the bonus too 😭

[manic basin]

My issue is the massive sensitivity difference between the sticks. And I don't have a way to choke it down on the wired Ultimate I'm using. My red line is mostly outside of the bounds of the screen, even overrunning on the left and appearing on the right hand side. And I definitely feel it in racing games. Nothing, nothing, nothing, SLAM RIGHT/LEFT!

[zinc dew]

@cerulean elk I gave myself the shitposter role ahahahahaah

[paper orchid]

It's so hard to slash when I need to claw grip

[mortal panther]

No one deserves it more. Congratulations!

[paper orchid]

I should've put jump on a trigger

[cerulean elk]

should have gone "smooth brain" roll instead

[paper orchid]

lmao

[zinc dew]

My crowning achievement will be when a ton of people inadvertently play the game because they got duped into thinking it was “good”

[mortal panther]

You're not that good of a shitposter. 😉

I mean, you're good... but getting that many people to believe that will be ascension-level.

[zinc dew]

true lol

[solemn kayak]

Did you use the guide on https://vampier.net/N64/ ?

[serene vessel]

yeah

i ran the updater but since i'd just grabbed the newest build it didn't do anything

i downloaded the ntsc pif file and renamed it to boot.rom

[mortal panther]

But when that day does happen...
"Hey, I just realized I haven't seen Robby in a while. Where did he go?"

[cerulean elk]

Andy from Shawshank made the thumbnail in the end

[serene vessel]

i'm feeding the core .z64 files and it seems to load them but just shows a black screen

[solemn kayak]

hmm,. no-intro roms ?

[serene vessel]

it's from a SmokeMonster everdrive pack

[zinc dew]

Don’t mean to interject but I wanted to say thank you for helping them out

[manic basin]

DB file?

[serene vessel]

it's in there yes

i'll load an explicitly no-intro rom to make sure i'm not making my own problem here

[solemn kayak]

Not sure how much help I can be, but happy to try, lol

[celest timber]

how did yall conifgure the controller for this ?

[solemn kayak]

I just got it all working that way yesterdya, so trying to think of what the difference is

[manic basin]

OK, good. And you're not getting the lookup failed error at the beginning, right?
If you turn errors on, do you get any display at all in the error text?

[mortal panther]

One of the latest unstable MiSTer main files installed as well that has support for loading the various different types of N64 ROMs.

[serene vessel]

would that error show when loading a rom?

[manic basin]

No, just once it's loaded if it halts.

[serene vessel]

because it shows the "loading rom" menu and once it gets to the end it goes away and there's a black screen

[iron trail]

I have A and B mapped to A and B, the c-buttons mapped to the c-buttons, L, R, & Z mapped to L, R, & Z, analog stick assigned to the analog stick, and the dpad mapped to the dpad 🙂

[serene vessel]

with the little boxes filling up

[paper orchid]

Alright, finally making my way to chapter 3

[manic basin]

Yeah, sounds like they're at least reading into memory correctly. So maybe you'd see a halt code.

[paper orchid]

OBS also dropped out for a bit which is a little annoying

[mortal panther]

Even after the ROM has loaded, are you still able to bring up the N64 OSD?

[paper orchid]

We'll manage, this is the worst I've played in a while but as long as we can compare lmao

[cold pollen]

Big if true

[celest timber]

u mean in the n64 core or on the general controller , cuz i have a n64 wireless from NSO i will be able to map it

[sudden harness]

I cant load mario 64

[serene vessel]

it needs a patch

[sudden harness]

But mario can have his eyes now right?

[serene vessel]

i can always bring up the MiSTer OSD, yeah

it's not like it freezes. it just loads a black screen.

[sudden harness]

Im confuse is the patch for the title screen or is it for his eyes?

[paper orchid]

Title screen

[sudden harness]

Ohhhh

[paper orchid]

Mario gets his eyes but he can't have his face

[solemn kayak]

You mentioned boot.rom, but also N64-database.txt is in there, right?

[iron trail]

I'm using the NSO controller. There's an updated driver for MiSTer you can find here that works great with the core. I'm assuming it'll make it into Main eventually.

[dusty tusk]

The patch skips the face at the beginning

[celest timber]

how we get that patch ?

[mortal panther]

https://vampier.net/N64/

[celest timber]

ah im doing the update all now and then the n64 script

[iron trail]

#unstable-nightlies message

You replace this file under /media/fat/linux, then reboot.

[cerulean elk]

ok its time to call it an editing day. Been sitting here since noon

Halloween videos have me busy outside of N64

[dusty tusk]

Was there a possible regression in the database? DK64 patched and Mario 64 with the all doors unlocked patch stopped working for me.

Are those working for anyone else?

[celest timber]

do i need to havet the unstable msiter too ?

last time i did it for saturn i recall replacing another file

[cold pollen]

He has no face but he must scream

[dusty tusk]

Make sure the boot rom and database txt are in the same location as your actual games in case you're using usb

[carmine kettle]

ahh 🇬 uest 6 4 overrated.

[iron trail]

Unless something has changed, the N64 core requires unstable and I believe the n64_update script grabs it automatically. @orchid nimbus could confirm 👀 (sorry I'm not using the script atm)

[paper orchid]

3-2 coming up

[manic basin]

Ooh, classic refs are best refs.
"You're depressed. The famous plumber Mario is in town. Go see him tonight."
"Butta doc....It's me...."

[celest timber]

ah okay then i will run the script i already hgave it in

[paper orchid]

@torpid hamlet Do you want me to send you these recording links once I'm done? If you can upload yours I can go through it too

[dusty tusk]

Sometimes the unstable mister is just sitting in scripts, so you might have to rename it and copy it where it belongs

With the update N64 script

[iron trail]

@celest timber reading the script it appears it does grab unstable. For NSO controller you'll still want to download the zImage_dtb linked above

[celest timber]

oke do i need to rename ?

[iron trail]

Interesting, good to know

[torpid hamlet]

Sure, I'll upload mine later

[paper orchid]

That works because maybe I shouldn't show anyone this hot mess lmao

[iron trail]

Yes, download it, rename it "zImage_dtb" and replace zImage_dtb under /media/fat/linux

Then reboot

[zinc dew]

lol true true

[rocky spindle]

My mum bought me NES Castlevania after she found it for £15 in the bargain bin at W.H. Smith’s (UK retailer). Best proxy impulse purchase she’s ever made.

[rocky spindle]

Which replacements did you get?

[manic basin]

The hall effect preorder from 8bitdo shipping on the 20th.

[rocky spindle]

I’m waiting for a steel bowl and bronze gears to arrive.

[manic basin]

Nice! Do those include new optical wheels or do you have to transfer them from existing?

[serene vessel]

i fixed it. my boot.rom was the wrong file

like i downloaded a link from github, not the raw file

[paper orchid]

Final boss, finally

[rocky spindle]

You lift out the encoder board and the wheels from existing OEM, then drop them into the new bowl housing, then you pop that back into the module with the gears and stick. It’s honestly very easy to do.

[manic basin]

Github is trolling with that, I swear. It's so common. We're all trained for 'right-click, save as.'

[celest timber]

the boot rom on the link we had to get the US one right ?

[manic basin]

Yeah, I've replaced a few...it's not too bad. I just did one today, but the actual encoder sensor is broken for Y axis. 😦

[serene vessel]

i feel like a dunce

that's okay

problem solved

[iron trail]

If you're referring to the PIF boot.rom, I'm using a US one, and I assume most others are as well

[solemn kayak]

I almost asked how big the boot.rom was

[iron trail]

It's protected IP like game roms are, so we can't link it or anything, sorry

[celest timber]

ooof it wont let me map the controlller

[paper orchid]

Alright, letting the credits roll an then I'll be done with a normal playthrough

[iron trail]

You rebooted after replacing the zImage_dtb? Like either a "cold" reboot or a hard reboot (physically turn it off and on again)

[celest timber]

i had it turned off since i had to put it on micro sd

[iron trail]

Are you trying it wired or wireless? Try wired to start if you're currently using wireless

[dusty tusk]

To make sure you've got the right file you can always check the md5 https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/md5_checksum.html
Against the ones on the vampier faq

[celest timber]

wireless

mario kart boots normally

[iron trail]

I have it working wireless as well, but try wired real quick just to see if the same issue persists

[celest timber]

ah SM64 after the title screen bugs out

[iron trail]

There's a config around here somewhere for the controller too, but I'm not using it so I can't really help there

[iron trail]

You patched it? SM64 requires a patch to skip the stretchy Mario face thing at the beginning

[celest timber]

ah no i havent i thought it was a patch on the files not the game

[paper orchid]

Alright, and that's done. Should have footage of pretty much all of S&P

[celest timber]

wired it wont read the dpad too

[iron trail]

The patch is in the FAQ, along with a link to an online patch tool. https://vampier.net/N64/#

[paper orchid]

@torpid hamlet Whenever you get your video uploaded just shoot me a DM, I'll put them both side by side this weekend and see what I can find.

[torpid hamlet]

Sweet

Keep in mind I skip all cutscenes

[iron trail]

I have to step away for a bit, but people here are nice and helpful. I hope you have some fun playing @celest timber please read over the FAQ again, it's full of good info 🙂

[celest timber]

thanks i hope to work it out

[paper orchid]

That explains why you were done so quickly lmao

I can compare cutscenes later if needed

[torpid hamlet]

Yup

If you skip all cutscenes, the game is like 44 minutes

[paper orchid]

I can pipe the N64 to the RT5x and then do a recording of the cutscenes there

[torpid hamlet]

Otherwise 1cc runs take 1.5 hours

[paper orchid]

Right

[cerulean elk]

CANCEL THE N64 CORE! MiSTer isn’t viable folks 🤣

[ripe prism]

Saw demon pikachu on Reddit

[ripe prism]

This mister is making me wanna sell so much shit

[cerulean elk]

I’ve coined him “Three Mile Island” Pikachu in videos now

[zinc dew]

I honestly understand that perspective though.

[ripe prism]

Does that fish from the Simpsons have a name?

[cerulean elk]

Blinky

[ripe prism]

Pikachunoble

[cerulean elk]

I make that joke when I show fixed Pikachu in the next vid 🤣

[ripe prism]

The mister is making me wanna sell so much stuff off and jailbreak

attempting my Wii but it’s so annoying and think a ps2 is next. Just hate selling game’s physically

But never selling the n64

[zinc dew]

Why would you sell the greatest video game console of all time???

[elfin relic]

he says n64 not cdi

[shell cloak]

In case anyone has the same issue, my C-buttons work now, had to change to “Switch” input instead of direct input

Oh, forgot to quote myself. Anyway c-buttons work on 8bitdo kit now

[zinc dew]

Oh right, thank you. My eyes have been vaselined thanks to the n64 core.

[stone pilot]

Pikachernobyl

[ripe prism]

I couldn’t remember how to spell it

[languid dune]

Oh nice! dezaemon 3D is playable with today's sramstub build!

[cerulean elk]

That’s such a unique one

[ripe prism]

Mr. Snrub!

[languid dune]

Yeah, I've been waiting for it to work.

[celest timber]

aight we gaming !

it works now

[carmine kettle]

8bitdo got to send me my replacement rumble pack

[celest timber]

im so glad i got those NSO controllers

[carmine kettle]

the one i got is defective it doesnt rumble smh

i do got nso i just dont want to open it lol

[celest timber]

😮 why

[carmine kettle]

idk

[celest timber]

tbf i have one of the 2 still on the box sealed too

[iron trail]

Nice! I just got back. What was it?

[celest timber]

i needed to get the nightly mister

after that everything worked

[zinc dew]

Dezaemon sounds like an off brand Pokémon clone

[celest timber]

we live

[dusty tusk]

For most people mister isn't worth it. For those that understand what it actually is, it absolutely is.

[rose elbow]

it would be nice if Nintendo issued out replacement sticks for sale for the NSO controller, seeing as we're at a point now where we all kinda understand that the joystick design is prone to wearing down over usage lol

[rose elbow]

funny one that. i feel like mister is probably for more people than people realize but it's a tough one to explain kinda

if you know you know i guess

[zinc dew]

The problem with the MiSTer is that you’re competing against “free”

[cerulean elk]

Your mother sounds like an off brand Pokémon. Chorglax

[broken creek]

Interesting how they fixed one bad joystick design by replacing it with another bad joystick design.

[rose elbow]

whats this referring to ?

[zinc dew]

that’s it, I’m leaving another dislike!!

[celest timber]

its the same mechanism so it they will grind with useage and time

[broken creek]

NSO uses a stick with carbon wipes and it replaced the OG stick design that ground iteself into dust.

[celest timber]

i saw some comapanis make the gamecube style for replacement

[broken creek]

Hall or Hell, I say.

[rose elbow]

i'm interested in those gamecube style replacements for my old n64 controllers

it seems a bit sacriligious but also those joysticks are kinda busted so

[broken creek]

They 8bitdo ones are Hall

They actually feel pretty nice for being a GC style

[rose elbow]

what is Hall

im so confused at all this terminology loool

[celest timber]

hall effect

[broken creek]

It uses magnets in proximity to a sensor.

[celest timber]

using magnets instead of the grind mechanism

[rose elbow]

no kidding!!!

[zinc dew]

How do magnets work

[elfin relic]

no one knows

[iron trail]

Damn you, beat me to it

[rose elbow]

only one posse was brave enough to ask

[iron trail]

Insane

[broken creek]

As you move the stick the magnet arays get closer or further from the sensor to approximate X and Y coordinates

[celest timber]

https://tenor.com/view/magnet-gif-14739062

[rose elbow]

is there a good vid or article talking about the NSO stick? lol

im keen to read up

[celest timber]

i dont think anyone really grinded on it tbh, most reviews were just unboxing

[iron trail]

Has anyone else continued playing OoT? I'm headed to Goron Village now, no crash yet 👀

[celest timber]

oot works ?

[broken creek]

Most articles praise the NSO stick, but I'm not a fan

[iron trail]

The MQ version, yes

With today's secret build

It's in the pins

[celest timber]

ah mq

i will wait for the normal one

[iron trail]

Yeah no saving either, best to wait

[celest timber]

its already moving too fast this project its nuts

i expected maybe on december a playable game

[iron trail]

Robert is amazing

[iron trail]

He thought so too 😅

[celest timber]

and without the vaseline layer this is fantastic

[zinc dew]

embrace the Vaseline

[rose elbow]

maybe a vectrex style overlay

except instead of a sheet it's just applying vaseline to the tv screen 🤔

[iron trail]

Yeah I hate to say it but it's kinda necessary or else it doesn't quite look right imo

Options are great though

[rose elbow]

yeah i'm still happy to sit back and wait a bit. there's quite a few bugs still atm like geometry and lines around edges and loose pixels and things, skyboxes not looking right, Mario didn't have a face for example.. sitting back and waiting for things to get ironed out seems to make sense before demanding OSD options for things that aren't even implemented yet .. IMHO !!!

[woven cloud]

Anyone know if the 8bitDo SN30 Pro works with this core?

Seems to recognize inputs when mapping buttons but they don't work in-game (Mario 64)

[broken creek]

Any controller should work. How well it works is up to the user.

[woven cloud]

I tried mapping all the buttons for movement, etc but only the camera controls, jump and pounce seem to work?

[broken creek]

You can use an NES controller with a Daemonbite on this core if you wanted to, but you won't get very far with two buttons and a D pad

[woven cloud]

This is the controller:

[rose elbow]

(who else reading this compiling lists in their mind of n64 games playable with NES controller? 😂 )

[broken creek]

Was just thinking about it lol

Probably just Namco Museum

[rose elbow]

can u map the d-pad to joystick?

[woven cloud]

Tried that as well - no dice

[rose elbow]

or d-pad just for d-pad

makes sense

im taking back what i said earlier, i demand an option to map a d-pad to the joystick inputs :D

surely Dr Mario 64 would be playable i imagine

[zinc dew]

[rose elbow]

lol

[topaz otter]

but she don't use butter
and she don't use cheese
she don't use jelly
or any of these

she uses vaseline

[zenith orchid]

thinking about how much would HDMI modded PSX, Saturn, and N64 cost combined makes me glad I got the MiSTer. not to mention ever drives and ODEs

[elfin depot]

Used to rebuild transmissions, and Vaseline is used as an assembly lubricant, we used to buy it by the five gallon pail. We ran out one time and had to send the young kid apprentice all over town to buy up all the jars he could find. He was super embarrassed trying to explain why he was buying 10 jars of Vaseline at the local drug store to the cashier.

[languid dune]

Worth it!

[topaz otter]

shoulld have sent him to buy headlight fluid and elbow grease

[zenith orchid]

Personally I couldn't be bothered with the hassle of setting up software emulators to run on my TV

[native mesa]

Yeah idk what that looks like these days. Rgbpi?

[covert bough]

You can run retroarch on Xbox series

[topaz otter]

well considering that a modern tv can't do 640x480 and thats the native resolution of the n64

but emulators upscale that anyway

[zinc dew]

LOL that’s way better thank you lolol

[topaz otter]

we got a real photoshop artist here

[zenith orchid]

I used to run emulators on my Wii, but the input lag was noticeable and it just felt off. MiSTer makes me feel like I'm good at SMW again

[covert bough]

It is weird plugging in a real n64 via composite on a 4K TV that's old enough that it has component and hdmi inputs

The TV scaling is not great. Maximum vaseline

Better to go through ossc or something

[zinc dew]

[topaz otter]

I can say this, playing the mario 64 mod that gives you two player split screen on a 65" tv, and running it on real hardware through composite

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-amazed-i-am-amazing-amazed-star-wars-gif-26053868

[native mesa]

Lol I don't think you need to tell anyone here this

[zenith orchid]

I kinda want a RT4K to plug composite into it 😂

[covert bough]

Better still to plug it into a crt via s video

[arctic fractal]

for some reason with my 8bit sn30 pro+, I can't configure the left stick to be the one that is used to control and the right stick for C buttons ?

[zinc dew]

CRTs over rated, my 4K tv has composite

just use that, looks proper good

[zenith orchid]

it's really strange how subtle the difference is between s-video and composite is on N64, but definitely s-video has an edge in color clarity

[native mesa]

You can get pretty damn close to a CRT with an LED TV and HDR and proper filtering

[topaz otter]

a lot of times depending on the tv it makes a blurry mess

[zinc dew]

Then I make it widescreen

[covert bough]

I didn't believe the hype with CRTs until I got one

[cerulean elk]

I’m putting this in my top 3 burns about Robby

[covert bough]

Now I have 2 and an OLED and the iPad screen thanks in part to this discord lol

I appreciate having options

[native mesa]

We're you born after they were a thing or something?

[zinc dew]

I threw out my CRTs when I got a MiSTer

[covert bough]

No I'm a 90s baby

[topaz otter]

welcome to the family son

[zinc dew]

no need when I can hook it up via composite to my 8K tv

[covert bough]

Grew up with tubes but had forgotten over the years

[native mesa]

RF is the only way to play

[zenith orchid]

I think once we have 32" 4K OLEDs, that kind of pixel density will make CRT modes in RT4K look so much more like the real thing

[topaz otter]

by then robert will be one with the matrix and we'll all have roms run directly in our brains

[zinc dew]

I have a CRT and a PVM that I should probably hook my MiSTer up to at some point lol

CRTs are awesome

[rose elbow]

my understanding is; you can't map the joystick in the n64 core settings. you have to back out to the main MiSTer menu and navigate to "Define Joystick buttons" and make sure the left and right sticks are defined on this screen first. The N64 core automatically maps the controllers Left Joystick to the N64 joystick controls

[covert bough]

Some people use the 42" LG oleds as computer monitors

[elfin relic]

somehow people will still be trying to hook their brains up to a CRT for reasons

[viscid nebula]

That requires playing a game

[hearty oar]

this was the only cable I used for the longest time

[zenith orchid]

quit putting it off then. I would do it in a heartbeat if I had that 😂

[topaz otter]

i got a mitsubishi diamond pro CRT monitor and mister looks great on it

problem is that it weighs fifty pounds

[languid dune]

Not as good as the classic two forked versions I used with my Atari 2600!

[native mesa]

True, better get the screwdriver

[zinc dew]

update_all is my favorite game!

[topaz otter]

bonus points for the rf adapter that you can hook both the nes and the SNES up at the same time

[zenith orchid]

what about update_N64?

[topaz otter]

and I think the one I had also had a N64 hookup

playing dk64 on a hotel tv was possibly the ugliest thing I have ever seen

[languid dune]

My favorite part of the game is watching all the text scroll on screen!

[covert bough]

Didn't the nes ship with rf only for video out?

[viscid nebula]

The game ends fast though

[topaz otter]

the NES has yellow video and RF

[languid dune]

Not if you haven't played it in awhile!

But I mean, realistically, who doesn't play it at least once a day?

[topaz otter]

I actually am thinking about removing the stupid rf shield from the NES

[elfin relic]

toaster has composite out and rf. Toploader had rf only

[viscid nebula]

Who needs a mister when analog pocket needs no cables

[native mesa]

Remember when you had to gut a playchoice 10 to get RGB modded into an NES?

[topaz otter]

I already removed the rf shield on the TI-99/4A I have because, what is it going to interfere with?

[cerulean elk]

I mean my MiSTer is less useful on the toilet. Wife won’t let me put a CRT in there

[zinc dew]

lol you know I’m kidding, CRTs are the best!

[covert bough]

Every time a crt gets destroyed a mister user dies

[cerulean elk]

I run a rescue. Video Game Esoterica’s Home For Lost and Wayward Televisions

[elfin depot]

I think you mean:

[topaz otter]

every time a bell rings, a crt gets its wings

[compact depot]

MiSTer is not out of stock! 😌

[cerulean elk]

For just two dollars a day you too can save a classic CRT TV

[rose elbow]

LOL getting a MiSTer made me go out of my way and hunt down some CRTs.

[viscid nebula]

Damn wife

[topaz otter]

what is that hideous thing

[cerulean elk]

I could fit a nice 14” PVM right on the heater. It’s made for it!

[cerulean elk]

I’ve been trying to find one for a good price for a video

Run modern shit and MiSTer on a watchman

[ocean lily]

get off my lawn

[cerulean elk]

Good old channel 3

[languid dune]

It was the best channel when I was growing up.

[topaz otter]

lol I have about four of these in a box somewhere, full of radio shack crap

[viscid nebula]

Lmao yup channel 3

[covert bough]

The look on my gf's face when I told her the 20" inch trinitron was my dream tv

[arctic fractal]

It work now ! thank you very much, I might have switch both stick 1 and 2 hehe

[elfin depot]

Factory RF adapter

[native mesa]

Turok eh?

[topaz otter]

an adapter from the ugly factory maybe

[native mesa]

Channel 4 gang

[topaz otter]

the one I have looks nothing like that

[arctic fractal]

Mario 64 lol

[elfin depot]

Works tho

[topaz otter]

what a delightful shade of brown

[raw oriole]

As was the fashion at the time

[arctic fractal]

is Turok working ? o_O

[covert bough]

That thing looks like a microwave lol

[topaz otter]

i like that its sitting on top of a pirate chest

[native mesa]

Thats goldeneye in Mexico

[rose elbow]

Goldeneye if it was made during the PS3 era when everything had a realistic and gritty brown hue

[native mesa]

Oh the UE3 days

[viscid nebula]

Goldeneye if it was a starfox game

[topaz otter]

there were times when I wondered if the unreal engine could only generate brown textures, or if the developers of gears of war were actually blind

[native mesa]

It was to emphasize the beef jerky characters

[rose elbow]

i'm pretty sure MGS4 was in house engine and that was also a really bad example. i think it was just the trend at the time thanks to the Matrix and then moreso Swordfish and movies like that .. the over the top brown hues was everything

[topaz otter]

cliffy b said gears of war was his dream game, a game with bald sweaty muscular men grunting and leaping over waist high walls

if thats what this dude dreams about

then he needs to start asking himself some serious questions

[hearty oar]

pretty sure the brown hue also helped disguise the issues that were starting to become apparent with traditional ADS lighting and pre-PBR material pipelines

[marble cargo]

Been toying with Smash Remix.

[hearty oar]

ie very dark shadows, too much or too little contrast, poorly grounded objects

[rose elbow]

it was objectively wrong imo LOL

[topaz otter]

thats a very colorful pallete

[native mesa]

True I do prefer this

[topaz otter]

I don't remember this scene from mortal kombat

[rose elbow]

ya what is that !

[rose elbow]

omg it actually is mortal kombat

i dont think ive seen it since VHS tbh

[stuck summit]

Enemy stand!

[topaz otter]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-tsang-tsung-soul-is-mine-gif-5567102

you know the only game I've ever hated so much I took it back

was mortal kombat mythologies sub zero

[rose elbow]

rental or purchase?

taking a rental back is a big move

[topaz otter]

actually now that I think about it, I think I borrowed it

also the guy I borrowed it from I let him borrow my copy of link to the past, he hated it

he had only played links awakening

[rose elbow]

he probably just said that coz he knew it was a dirty deal LOL

[topaz otter]

and he said that link to the past was the worst game he ever played

[rose elbow]

thats effectively trading one of the best games of all time with one of the worst games of all time no joke

[topaz otter]

well I said borrowed

[rose elbow]

ahaha ya

still funny

[native mesa]

There I got RGB

[topaz otter]

GETOVERHEREE

[dreamy ridge]

it freaked me out when i was a kid how the rope spear came out of his palm 🤣

[native mesa]

I found yellow

[zinc dew]

My favorite Gears of War is when I took a photo with Cliffy B at E3 when they were showing off Gears of War and he was adamant we do the shocker in the photo. Me and my friend laughed thinking he was joking but no, he said he was serious and we just went along with him lmao.

[topaz otter]

didn't she play the school teacher in billy madison

[native mesa]

Veronica Vaughn

[zinc dew]

My second favorite Gears of War story was when I attended a GDC narrative talk and the writing team basically spent their entire hour trying to convince the attendees they had this gigantic narrative epic planned and that the game was purposefully not showing any story. The audience erupted in laughter when they said they and they awkwardly were like “we’re not joking”. LMAO

[topaz otter]

cliffy b's success made him a video game developing rock star

[topaz otter]

but like all rock stars he had a great team of people helping him

[zinc dew]

No one wants to work with him.

[native mesa]

Who is cliffy b

[topaz otter]

well he's also famously an asshole

nothing he's made after leaving epic has been of note

[zinc dew]

Yup, and he was arrogant as fuck when approaching studios after he left Epic lmao

[topaz otter]

dude from epic games

made gears of war

also I think he made jazz jackrabbit back in the day

[zinc dew]

I worked with people who were at his studio. He is horrible person.

[covert bough]

Different era of gamedev

[topaz otter]

he used to call himself "Dude Huge" lol

[dreamy ridge]

pics or it didn't happen 😆

[topaz otter]

also don't forget that Epic is one of the crookedest companies on earth

in North Carolina they have hundreds of thousands of complaints from people with the better business bureau

[native mesa]

So he worked on the shitty epic games

Got it

[topaz otter]

he was also instrumental in making unreal tournament

and made some pretty good maps

[native mesa]

Yeah but UT wasn't good until 2004

Which apparetly he had no part in

[rose elbow]

OG UT ruled

[topaz otter]

yeah he designed jazz jackrabbit

I have to give him credit where credit is due, that game is amazing

he was just the technical guy behind epics most creative years, sure they are making more money now with fortnite

[rose elbow]

im not doubting any of the bro culture horror stories tho, you hear a lot of that of 90s game studios that started with mates and found success

[topaz otter]

but man the years from like 1994 to 2005

[dusty tusk]

Rumors are they're going to rename unreal since to distance themselves from the games

[topaz otter]

Epic games made literal gold

I played so many hours of UT99

[hearty oar]

I definitely idolised him as a young mapper and modder, but uh yeah, a little bit like Yuji Naka, don’t learn too much about your heroes

[topaz otter]

downloading mods, playing multiplayer, I gotta thank this guy for that

[native mesa]

Now they got the china backing

[dreamy ridge]

wow they don't even sell unreal tournament on steam anymore, i guess i really missed the boat

[rose elbow]

Quake 3 had Bender from Futurama in it, clearly the better game

[topaz otter]

I think you can get it from good old games

[dreamy ridge]

quake live is still lit

[dusty tusk]

Weirdly enough unreal is still being patched

[dreamy ridge]

nice, i'll grab it there

[topaz otter]

nevermind it got delisted from there too

[rose elbow]

i loooved quake live when it was browser based and kinda bounced off after that

[dreamy ridge]

lmao dammit what a rollercoaster

[viscid nebula]

Didn’t @zinc dew make all the doom games

[topaz otter]

you might have to just p**ate the goty edition

[hollow orbit]

Every single one.

[viscid nebula]

I thought so

Robby romero

[hollow orbit]

Including Chex Quest

[rose elbow]

Bobby Prince

[dreamy ridge]

there was a time early 2010s when around christmas they did instagib freeze tag, SO damn fun

[hollow orbit]

And Barneystein 3D

[viscid nebula]

🤣🤣

[dusty tusk]

https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTournamentPatches/releases

[topaz otter]

simpsons doom

[dreamy ridge]

oh BABY

[viscid nebula]

Lately he made myhouse.wad

[dreamy ridge]

dude...myhouse was the best game i've played this year

wait it was revealed who created it?

[viscid nebula]

I wanna try it one day but it’s been spoiled

No some mystery man

Probably Robby

[dreamy ridge]

lmao

[topaz otter]

I was making a build engine map today, for some reason

and my brother looks at it and goes

why don't you just make a map that looks like work or school

[dusty tusk]

Making doom maps in doom builder is very relaxing

[zinc dew]

LMAO

[topaz otter]

and I told him, because thats what everyone does for their first map

[dreamy ridge]

it happened!!!!

[topaz otter]

and its lame

[viscid nebula]

Robby is the photographer

[zinc dew]

no I’m the fat one on the left LOL

And away it goes!

[topaz otter]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-alesha-dixon-britains-got-talent-oh-wow-whoa-gif-25611600

[viscid nebula]

Throwin up gang signs

[native mesa]

My first map was a Total Recall mars map for Wolf:ET

[zinc dew]

He made us do the shocker for the photo

[dreamy ridge]

i would bet money that cliffy B has never administered an actual shocker in his life

[viscid nebula]

[cold pollen]

The story in Gears of War is annoying

[topaz otter]

I've watched so many duke3d map playthroughs on youtube

and they all consist of square ugly buildings and waves of aliens

[viscid nebula]

Y’all just need geometry dash

Real skill needed

[hollow orbit]

Gears of War was made solely for the purpose of waiting for a man shaped like Dave Bautista to go into acting.

[dusty tusk]

I prefer Doom or Quake to Duke Nukem

[native mesa]

Did I miss the photo?!

[viscid nebula]

You did

[topaz otter]

yep its gone now

[dreamy ridge]

yuuuuup

[topaz otter]

once in a lifetime event

[native mesa]

😦

[viscid nebula]

It was Robby and some skinny guys

[dreamy ridge]

it was worth the wait

[cold pollen]

Gears of War is badly in need of back story and context but it's taken them 5 games to even come close to it lol

[topaz otter]

like seeing taylor swift on the way back to the RV, you missed it

[cold pollen]

like, who needs story, blow shit up

[hollow orbit]

Imagine a young chubby @zinc dew standing next to a coked out CliffyB with regret writ large on his innocent face.

[topaz otter]

I bet cliffy b doesn't even remember being there that day

or anything that happened in 2006

[cold pollen]

Is Gears of War 6 ever coming out

And can it be the last one

[hollow orbit]

For him, it was Tuesday.

[zinc dew]

He gave me a nice 360 gears of war faceplate

[rose elbow]

the waist high duck and cover mechanics of GOW pretty much became the new doom clones after that, mass effect/uncharted/metal gear solid etc.etc.

[topaz otter]

lol

[native mesa]

Reminds me of the time I met Gaben. He made me do the Zoltan

[cold pollen]

True

I like me some cover based shooter

[dreamy ridge]

from like...dude where's my car?

[zinc dew]

And it’s gone!

[dreamy ridge]

no WAY...what a cool guy

[cold pollen]

No Zoltan was the guy with the masks in GI Joe

[topaz otter]

its value goes up every time its posted

[cold pollen]

he couldn't be exposed to sunlight

everybody knows

[topaz otter]

like mcdonalds monopoly

[hollow orbit]

needs more jpeg

[topaz otter]

but now I'm looking at maps from half life

and trying to get a feel for realistic architecture

[cold pollen]

Oh Half Life

that's on my Hot Take list

[topaz otter]

its way harder but it doesn't look like crap

[native mesa]

Hammer editor

[covert bough]

Fps history is cool, I recently played the doom remasters and quake for the first time

[native mesa]

I made a lot of Gmod maps back I the day

[covert bough]

And then halo ce campaign

[topaz otter]

you know why they call it that

[zinc dew]

bad photo

[cold pollen]

I want a true sequel to Quake bad

[topaz otter]

they might make it

[cold pollen]

I hope so

[covert bough]

I'm playing quake ii and it's way more scifi

[topaz otter]

certain elements at id software really want to remake it

[cold pollen]

hopefully they can make it different enough from Doom

[covert bough]

What happened to the medieval stuff

[topaz otter]

the question is what form will it take

because the original quake doesn't have one style

[cold pollen]

I believe QII was a different game

[covert bough]

Just feels more like rescinded doom

[cold pollen]

they just shoehorned it into Quake

[zinc dew]

Yup, for marketing reasons

[cold pollen]

Then that became Quake

[dusty tusk]

At least the extra episodes in the remaster were pretty good

[zinc dew]

I forgot what the original name was though

[cold pollen]

like fucking Castlevania SOTN

[covert bough]

Oooh

[cold pollen]

mortal of the story, stop changing shit

[covert bough]

And no Trent Reznor soundtrack

Still fun tho

[cold pollen]

Okay Hot Take again

that soudntrack is overrated AF

[dusty tusk]

It was going to be called Wor

[cold pollen]

it's like, clanging and silence

[topaz otter]

The Fight for Justice

[cold pollen]

the menu music goes hard then the rest is like, what music?

[dusty tusk]

I think the mission soundtrack is better

[zinc dew]

Was it seriously that?

[covert bough]

It's ambient

[topaz otter]

yes

[covert bough]

Like the metroid ii music on gb

[dreamy ridge]

like the social network ost lol

[dusty tusk]

Honestly I think I prefer quake 64 music, I think it's more environmental

[topaz otter]

also it was going to be a rpg with fantasy elements

[zinc dew]

Kevin Cloud told me years ago back when I first started at id but I forgot lol

[topaz otter]

but carmack told john romero he was insane

and they weren't doing that

[zinc dew]

ohhh no I mean Quake II

[dreamy ridge]

lol you work at id? im listening to the masters of doom audiobook right now

[zinc dew]

I did

[topaz otter]

quake II was originally going to be called brown and tan boxes and elevators and ramps: the video game

[cold pollen]

what, that's real music lol

[zinc dew]

yeah it’s my least favorite but the MP is still awesome

[covert bough]

The shift in difficulty from quake 1 to quake 2 seems big

[cold pollen]

Then Quake 3 had no campaign/story

I had fun with all 3 but I miss the first

[rose elbow]

Quake 2 has 3D rendered explosions, any other criticisms are kinda moot

[dusty tusk]

Is it true that sandy was really nice

[covert bough]

Also quake ii on n64 has a nuts button layout on that controller

[hearty oar]

I watched a string of youtube videos that started coming out in light of the recent remaster that are like "don't be so harsh on Quake 2, it's actually not that bad". Anyway, I tried it again and yep, I still don't like it as much as the first one

[cold pollen]

my daughter and have been having a blast

[dreamy ridge]

i was just playing quake ii the other day, a grenade explosion looks like an orange water baloon popping

[covert bough]

It's like using the c buttons to go forward and stick to aim

[dusty tusk]

I think the compass was a mandatory addition

[topaz otter]

I have nearly beaten quake 2, both the original and the n64 version and it just feels

[cold pollen]

I'm surprised she's into it

[topaz otter]

uninspired

[covert bough]

Backwards from modern twin stick layout

[cold pollen]

the compass is soooooooooooooooooo nice

[topaz otter]

I missed the gothic castles

[rose elbow]

i was reading Masters of Doom book a while back but fell off after Quake. even the lore is uninspired

[dusty tusk]

The level design is not good enough to forego the compass

[covert bough]

The compass is a built in walkthrough

[topaz otter]

plus quake II spawned a million space marine games

[cold pollen]

That last stage in Quake was nuts, that ridiculous gauntlet up the side

[dreamy ridge]

yeah carmack just started firing everyone, the magic was slipping away

[topaz otter]

with brown walls and brain dead npcs

[dusty tusk]

Quake 2 music is baller tho

[cold pollen]

Quake 2 has the best BFG though

[topaz otter]

did you ever hear about the cat at id software

[zinc dew]

WHAT ABOUT ETERNAL

[cold pollen]

haven't played yet 😦

I still haven't beaten 2016

[dreamy ridge]

lol yup, mitzy. poor mitzy

[hearty oar]

I like the Sword better in Eternal

[cold pollen]

and I'm scared to go back and forget the buttons and shit

[dreamy ridge]

carmack is ice cold

[zinc dew]

I made the BFG in Eternal lol

[cold pollen]

it fucking sucks

[zinc dew]

GODDAMNIT

[topaz otter]

he's a pure logical machine

[dusty tusk]

I'm pretty sure Carmack is ND

[topaz otter]

like the terminator

[covert bough]

Need to play the new ones still

And doom 64 of course

[cold pollen]

like what part did you make? Did you design it and model it and come up with the mecanics?

[topaz otter]

anyway for anyone that doesn't know, they had this cat in the office that everyone loved

and it peed on carmacks couch

so he had it sent to the pound

and they all had a fit, wheres the dam cat?

and john romero famously goes, "The cat has gone downtown to china town."

or something like that

[dreamy ridge]

he said "she was having a net negative impact on my life"

[covert bough]

Og doom soundtrack was and is amazing

[cold pollen]

She did not spark joy

[zinc dew]

Designer, came up mechanics/behavior, balance tuned it, worked on projectile behavior, and also implemented AI reactions and loot pop

[dreamy ridge]

lois!!

[dusty tusk]

Not to excuse it, but people that can't handle their cats often have their house go to shit and piss in the process

[cold pollen]

well now I want to see it, so I guess I have to beat an entire game and a half now thanks

[rose elbow]

i havent played Eternal but i agree with Robby's N64 takes so im going to say the BFG in that game is great

[cold pollen]

also, that's badass brother 🙂

[topaz otter]

this is the funniest thing I have ever read in this chat lol

[hollow orbit]

@zinc dew who worked on the archvile? I never let one live long enough to know what they did. ABC. Always Be Crucibling.

[cold pollen]

damn I'm honored 😆

[zinc dew]

I was one of the main designers on Eternal. Worked on all aspects of the game design-wise. Guns, AI, level mechanics, player mechanics, upgrades, runes, even did a section of a level.

[dusty tusk]

Now that Mick Gordon is free... KI Season 4 when?

[cold pollen]

that's so awesome 🙂

[zinc dew]

No but I worked on the crucible to get my aggression out on him lol

[rose elbow]

FPGA Doom Eternal core when

[topaz otter]

you should have made it more like doom 2016, don't hit me

[cold pollen]

If I decide I don't like Starfield, I'll go back and play Doom, and pester you with questions about how to play because it's been like 8 years

[covert bough]

Did you know any of the certain affinity guys? One of my coworkers worked on doom 2016 through them

[zinc dew]

Please do!

[cold pollen]

I'm serious

[zinc dew]

I know Jason and I’m still good friends with him. He left CA and joined us to work on Eternal.

[hearty oar]

it would be so cool to be able to point to stuff like that and say "I made that", as an engineer on the tools and tech team it's like, the game can render on a phone now? It doesn't crash...as often? Frametimes are a few hundred micros lower?

[cold pollen]

I'll get you on voice chat and you can walk me through it

[hollow orbit]

Well whoever put a fucking grappling hook on the super shotgun and made it set enemies on fire, I owe a beer.

[zinc dew]

I have funny dev stories

[rose elbow]

one thing i found interesting about Wolfenstein 2016 was like.. the game (imo, to me) felt a bit wrong on kb+m compared to controller. like damn, different times

[topaz otter]

I use to have regular conversations with one of the guys that designed Cannon Fodder

[zinc dew]

Didn’t do grapple hook, did the fire thing

[topaz otter]

he was a funny guy, had a weird sense of humor

[cerulean elk]

Who made the mistake (a charming one) in OG Doom 2016 that let you use the weapon wheel to maximize damage on BFG?

[cold pollen]

those games were awesome

[zinc dew]

Wasn’t on purpose, we didn’t do a frame time check on BFG damage so when you slowed down the BFG damage output didn’t lol

[topaz otter]

also I know the guy who was in charge of QA on Tribes II during the waning days of Sierra

[zinc dew]

BFG is a DoT

[dusty tusk]

Feel like I'm going insane, can't seem to get dk64 working again

[cerulean elk]

It was a great cheese technique

[hollow orbit]

I’m glad you guys left that bug in. Fun bugs add character.

[topaz otter]

he said that they had a Deer Hunter game, completed and ready to ship

brass cancelled it

so they put they in a big wheely bin and went around the office giving them out as free copies

[cerulean elk]

I won’t lie. Never finished Eternal @zinc dew I just petered out mid way. Too stressful during the pandemic

[topaz otter]

was sad

[zinc dew]

We had it fixed but it produced other issues and was too much of a risk.

[zinc dew]

Man that sucks

[cerulean elk]

I had to spend the first months of the pandemic just playing happy shit while the world burned around us. Lotta animal crossing. Grim Fandango. Old adventure games

[topaz otter]

yep he's an old guy, tells a lot of great stories about the industry, I think he got burned out on it

the end of sierra is one of the saddest things to ever happen

[cold pollen]

That's me and 2016

game was murdering me lol

[dusty tusk]

I'm gonna be real I can play any Id game for a few afternoon, but I immediately go back to og doom

[cerulean elk]

For real. I just went on a chill game bender. Sonic Adventure, Bomberman Hero, Kings Quest, Beneath a Steel Sky, Crash Bandicoot…all relaxing stuff

[topaz otter]

robby why when I'm trying to hit the spider demons tail with the sticky grenade from the shotgun

[zinc dew]

Those are all good games and Bomberman Hero

[cold pollen]

I still haven't beaten OG Doom because every time I go through it from the first episode and damn it's long

[topaz otter]

why does his tail move around so much

or do I just suck

[cold pollen]

Robby can you hack the game for us

can I just tell you stuff and you do it

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew can you confirm or deny a Doom rumor I heard?

[zinc dew]

His turret? The hitbox is very big, I adjusted it post launch lol.

[topaz otter]

demons are always moving around why cant they just stand still

[cold pollen]

whoah language

[topaz otter]

its not that big lol

[cold pollen]

that's someone's mother

[cold pollen]

wow

[dusty tusk]

At least Doom 1 has episodes. DOOM 2 should have had them too 32 maps bakc to back suuuucks

[cold pollen]

how did I never realize 2 doesn't have episodes

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew I heard that the Mancubus was inspired by your mom? True?

[zinc dew]

stop posting photos of me

[topaz otter]

hey how did you get a picture of the 45th president of the united states

[zinc dew]

that’s during my Duran Duran phase

[cerulean elk]

I’d vote for a mancubus next year. At least you know what you are getting

[topaz otter]

hey

if your not a manc, your a wanc

[zinc dew]

We had a mancubus glory kill where he had these sad puppy dog eyes before you jammed the doom blade into his skull and I had it changed. Like it was hilarious but like you felt sad lmao

[cerulean elk]

It’s a choice between a Cheeto and a man who probably forgot where he is. Mancubus 2024!

[zinc dew]

Ok sorry this is off topic

I’m so sorry

[topaz otter]

to be honest the monster redesigns in doom eternal are very loony toons

[zinc dew]

DOOM 64 is a cool game to play on the core

[cold pollen]

just make a "Pester Robby about Doom" channel

[cerulean elk]

Doom is on N64. It’s on topic

[topaz otter]

I mean when you pull out the eyeball of the cacodemon it makes a SPLORP

like something out of a cartoon

I mean the first time I did it I was rolling on the floor

[covert bough]

It is interesting to see how the spirit of doom was maintained given how old the original dos version was

[cold pollen]

Fun Fact: Robby made that sound

[cerulean elk]

Now Wolfenstein: The New Order and New Colossus. Those games 😘

[cold pollen]

Doom 2016 basically made the cover art for the OG into a reality

[cold pollen]

Soo good

[hybrid spade]

Has anyone tried Star Wars: Rogue Squadron?

[cold pollen]

also Old Blood or whatever it was

[cerulean elk]

Story heavy single player FPS in an alt history universe?

[topaz otter]

robby is it true that the glory kills only came about because of brutal doom

[hybrid spade]

afaik it had tons of hacks/undocumented features on the N64 etc

[cerulean elk]

Chefs kiss

[topaz otter]

and the huge influence it had

because there's a lot of similarities between doom 2016 and brutal doom

[covert bough]

What's the pre wolfenstein boomer shooter? That weird tank game that they did?

[cerulean elk]

Gun Buster

Beat Wolfenstein to market by a month. The real innovative FPS

[topaz otter]

that game where you are in the maze and that giant triangle chases you

[covert bough]

Oh interesting

[topaz otter]

I forgot what its called

it was in windows 3.11

[dusty tusk]

It technically does: Space Station, City, and Hell

[covert bough]

Will eventually make my way to ps2 fps. I have half life 2 ready to go

[cerulean elk]

I still have to finish Alyx

Finally getting back into “VR weather”

[covert bough]

Tried that at a friend's place. Very trippy and cool

Weird to do vr with glasses on though

[cerulean elk]

I can’t deal with VR from like June-September. Hot and fogs up since we don’t have central AC

[covert bough]

I would try taking them off and then I was holding objects up to my face to see what they were lol

Appreciate all your videos btw. I watch them while I work

[cerulean elk]

Shirking your duties at work. Love it

[covert bough]

Between you guys and Spawnwave and retro rgb and Lou's retro source and Scott the woz I feel almost too informed about video games

[cerulean elk]

Should watch Mr Sujano too

Legit nice dude. Does a lot of software emu news. Very informative on what’s new on the other side of the fence (software emu)

[orchid nimbus]

went live on twitch

n64 core stuff

[balmy dagger]

Sujano is great. Soothing. Especially when he's camping and recording.

[cerulean elk]

His camping stuff is fun. I chat with him on Twitter now and again. Always super upbeat and chill. 10/10 recommend

He covered the Castlevania dump stuff I did over the early summer

[covert bough]

Never heard of the guy will check out his vids

[cerulean elk]

He talked about the N64 core progress last week. So he touches on FPGA now and again too

[covert bough]

Oh cool

[fiery grove]

maybe a dumb question but...

how do you configure dpad on n64 core? i'm using the ps5 controller

and button configuration on core only asks for directions but no dpad directions

[rose elbow]

the directions is the dpad directions

you can't map the joystick in the n64 core settings. you have to back out to the main MiSTer menu and navigate to "Define Joystick buttons" and make sure the left and right sticks are defined on this screen first. The N64 core automatically maps the controllers Left Joystick to the N64 joystick.

[fiery grove]

ohh i see

then in the core directions map them on the dpad

the analog will work by default by MiSTer's joystick config

[rose elbow]

yep, the joystick should be mapped automatically after that, and you can use Define Buttons in the n64 core to map all the other buttons (such as dpad)

[fiery grove]

thanks for clarify that, since i installed the core i first went to configure the controller and maped the directions to analog stick

i didn't know that

[hexed knot]

ohhhhh that's why I was getting double inputs sometimes....

[fiery grove]

yeah happened to me on f-zero x menu lol

[rose elbow]

its a universal sort of rule for the mister, PS1 core will be similar for analog joystick mapping

[fiery grove]

now i'm having trouble to enter the cheat code with the c inputs, maybe it's because i maped c-buttons to the right joystick that is configured as a second stick on MiSTer, maybe that's making double input and the cheat doesn't work

[hearty oar]

going to get a lot of mileage out of per-game input mapping on this core...

[rose elbow]

that doesn't save right? or has that been updated/being updated?

[fiery grove]

forget this, i'm just dumb, i was trying to put the code on start screen and it should be on the internal menu of the game

[hearty oar]

no idea, I've never actually tried it until now

[rose elbow]

all good. takes a bit of banging head against it to figure out the controller mappings

[rose elbow]

ah. FYI it doesn't save :D

[hearty oar]

boo

[fair stump]

I think joystick mapping catches everyone off guard at least once

happened to me with the ps1 core while it was in dev

[rose elbow]

its caught me off guard more than once

[fiery grove]

Time to unrust the muscle memory

[fiery grove]

i wasn't aware of that too, i have not used the ps1 core yet with analog games

[rose elbow]

the N64 core got me looking at it again tbh funnily enough. i love poking around on n64 a bit and then hopping over to PS1 and continuing on with a spyro save ive got atm :D

[fiery grove]

Veredict of the test: i don't need more my N64 to play F-Zero X

it runs amazing

it's a shame that i didn't ran that well trough the cup 😂 , but it's on Master so i don't feel that bad, i need to practice more to recover my experience that i had when i was a kiddo

[rose elbow]

oh nice i didn't realize F-zero ran!

[fiery grove]

yes! and it does so well, at least the first cup, i'm gonna try the others

it doesn't save sram yet, right?

[wanton sun]

not yet

[hybrid fulcrum]

Forgive me if this has been answered recently but I can’t seem to find it: how can I get past the crash at the beginning of Super Mario 64? It doesn’t seem to matter what rom I use or patch I apply, I always wind up here:

[wanton sun]

the only chance is the patch that fits to your version of the game

vampier has them all on the help page

[regal prism]

Every rom of Mario 64 is personalized.

[hybrid fulcrum]

Those are the ones I have been trying to apply

[wanton sun]

(or you wait until the game boots properly, it currently will crash random every 5-10 minutes)

[hybrid fulcrum]

I prefer this answer, actually. Thank you for all your hard work!

[hearty oar]

see, I knew there was a good reason I hadn't bothered trying the patches yet

[dense wagon]

been popping in every so often, was a bit fan of perfect dark and obviously the Zelda games on N64... whole reason i bought a Wii when the prices came down was because i wanted to play the virtual console ports haha.
Super dumb question but, where are the cores posted? not quite managed to lay my hands on it 😄 Also thanks so much @wanton sun the PSX core is amazing 😄 and the N64 looks like an absolute miracle

[wanton sun]

yes, the cores are available, e.g. in the test-builds channel

[dense wagon]

ah awesome 🙂 many thanks

ah yeah, apparently no access yet

[hearty oar]

I think you just need to go to id:customize and tick the Feeds and Test Builds box

[dense wagon]

ah yes you are right, haha yeah it was mega late and i was in a bit of a rush when i hopped onto the MiSTer discord

thanks for the pointer 😄

[fair stump]

Wayne Gretskys 3D Hockey is the NHL equivalent of nba jam. It plays so fast and is so much fun

[oblique remnant]

available for your home in 1995 only on nintendo ultra 64

[hearty oar]

I like the RJ45 connector

[rose elbow]

mine plays a little too fast

the rounds last 0 seconds LOL it's really funny

https://youtu.be/aVFItC3qXkA

[chilly ember]

That's weird haha

[oblique remnant]

Could be even a RJ11?!

[viral swift]

New Tetris is working now

[languid dune]

How can we not have a new core build yet!? Does he seriously expect us to wait more than 12 hours between updates!? The nerve!

[shell cloak]

Does Mario Kart 64 suck, or do I suck? The AI and rubber banding is insane lol

I know that’s the game but it’s worse than I remember

[languid dune]

It's the worst game in the series regarding rubber banding.

[hearty oar]

yeah, doesn't matter how well you race, they will always be just a few tenths behind you

[shell cloak]

AI karts literally defy the laws of physics to move faster than you even when you have gold mushroom?!

[languid dune]

The CPU will fly at unreal speeds to catch up.

[hearty oar]

I also learned they cheat in other ways, ie the hitsun only applies while you can see them on screen

[surreal summit]

You don't suck, the rubberbanding is really bad. Everyone has fond memories of the game because they all played four player multi-player, which eliminates the AI.

[languid dune]

Yep, I remember noticing that back in the day. If they're close enough ahead, you can actually see it happen.

[hearty oar]

amazing

I feel like there is a middle ground somewhere, the AI in MK8 is waaay too easy, you can get far enough ahead to cross the line backwards sometimes

they probably need a little bit of more subtle cheating in that game

[rose elbow]

just they wait til n64 core has Cheats option in OSD

[languid dune]

There was one time when I was racing against the AI on Choco Mountain. I had a star and was flying over the hills on the last stretch of the last lap, and the CPU just passed me anyway right before the finish line.

[surreal summit]

Pretty common on 150cc

[rose elbow]

would be cool if someone could make a hack where u get to play with the same rubber banding speed boosts as the CPU

[languid dune]

Mario Kart 8's (and most later Mario Kart games) rely entirely on the item balancing for rubber banding. MK64 takes drastic measures.

[hearty oar]

they give you an out in that game though, in 200cc especially it's possible to avoid blue shells with the right timing full mini turbo

and you can get the horn

it's just a little too easy, I'm fine with a little bit of cheating AI as long as its not noticeable

[rose elbow]

i love MK8d online (and MKwii too)

it's unfair with all the items but it's at least equal playing field unfairness

[shell cloak]

F-Zero X doesn’t get past N64 logo for me. Everdrive set. Anyone else?