Nintendo 64

[safe robin]

wave race works so well now!

[versed cairn]

the cache is way more stable. no problem here so far

[devout leaf]

For real, solid FPS too.

This is nuts lol

[safe robin]

For me too. I could not try the build Robert took back on Monday but what he released today is overwhelming. I did not have any crashes yet in games that normally work. Some crash instantly but if they run 5 minutes, they also ran a whole hour here

[versed cairn]

it's so nuts playing Banjo kazooie. it's at a solid 30fps most of the time now with cache

[devout leaf]

Waverace finally crashed on Duck Pond

The fog did it I think

[nova grotto]

For me Mischief makers freezes sometimes before and sometimes a little later (randomly) in the intro scene isn't it supposed to freeze at the same exact moment ? Is this something that can maybe give you a clue about something still being wrong ? @wanton sun

[hexed knot]

Space Station Silicon Valley makes it past the splash screen consistently now, and runs at a solid 30 FPS

Still graphical issues (invisible items/fences), but real good playin'.

[native mesa]

Screenshots with error codes that are reproducible

[worldly quartz]

ooh excited to try out the latest build....after 10 hours of work + commute lol

[safe robin]

WCW vs NWO World tour works! I'm in game! is this the first of the good wrestling games working?! mayhem and Revenge did not work for me. one thing though the controller pack message does not pop up to play you have to push down on the d-pad and then A button to get to the main menu 😁

[devout leaf]

Oh wow, that was what it was doing

[worldly quartz]

anyone try out fighter's destiny? Are the models loading better?
Characters had holes on the models, the fighting area was all black

[devout leaf]

I'll check now

[worldly quartz]

yay thanks

[devout leaf]

Models look better to me. 30fps.

[nova grotto]

Where Can I see that error codes ?

[native mesa]

You can enable them in the options

[worldly quartz]

wow it does look much better

i still suck at the game though

[safe robin]

games uns well here also. little glitches in the player models

[nova grotto]

Are you talking about the 'error overlay' option ?

[safe robin]

I also tried Snowboard Kids 1. It works well but the music slows down at some parts of the race.

[nova grotto]

ok so I've taken a photo of my errors

This is the most the core can show in the intro

But oddly enough the second error (the other freezing error that comes before) doesn't change the error numbers

But it still freezes

[orchid nimbus]

No need to show/record errors 🙂 too early in the process

[brisk drum]

Yeah this is just for fun !

[zenith orchid]

DS3 analog sticks are so much harder to control games with datacache on. they're way too sensitive. I hope there will be a setting to scale down the sensitivity to be closer to the N64 analog stick

[cerulean elk]

Man the comments on YT today. Never ending. I may need to rethink my “always respond to everyone cause they took the time to comment” policy

[viscid nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/sensitive-so-sensitive-stop-being-so-sensitive-gif-12594348

[cerulean elk]

What are you doing here! Get back to the Saturn channel

[zenith orchid]

I'm sure they will appreciate the engagement

[brisk drum]

My comments are always top notch

[zenith orchid]

feels like the more I play through the N64 library, the more I appreciate PSX's library

[viscid nebula]

BAN THIS MAN

[eternal island]

i asked my mom. she said you were my dad now. no fair.

[chilly ember]

I wish N64 had more rpg games

[cerulean elk]

GO CLEAN YOUR ROOM

[viscid nebula]

youtube comment sbe cray

[cerulean elk]

OR ELSE

[viscid nebula]

so clearly we're rushing release now

[zenith orchid]

no preview releases?

[viscid nebula]

rom para android? 🥺

[devout leaf]

Robert is about to wake up and see us going nuts with these roms.

[brisk drum]

I’m sure it will bring him much joy

[devout leaf]

I want to see how far Diddy Kong goes before crashing

[brisk drum]

Si

[eternal island]

this kinda reminds me of the time the psx core was kinda working

and then shortly after almost everything ran perfect....

[safe robin]

German Version of Turok works also. I grew up with this one and was confused about the Cyborgs in the Dinosaur land before I heard it was censored 😅

[chilly ember]

Turok the robot hunter

[spring steppe]

Anyone know how to map analog stick to work on n64 core. using an 8bitdo sn30 pro

[worldly quartz]

isn't it straight forward?

I don't recall having problems with mine

[viscid nebula]

you dont have to map it

[worldly quartz]

just set it up on the main menu of mister then reassign on n64 core

now the usb->GC->wiimote->n64 one was annoying to setup for the mister and this core

[spring steppe]

Got it! Thank you!

[cerulean elk]

AP News has declared a winner: N64 beats Saturn

[eternal island]

I think that may be due to the cache

Pretty big update

[cerulean elk]

No. I cached 600 views and released them all at once lol

[fair stump]

Rip 🌮

[eternal island]

I'm personally looking forward to saturn quite a bit, but the idea of N64 running on mister is an exciting thought too

Saturn because I have no nostalgia at all for it. So many games to play

[cerulean elk]

I love them both. I don’t care who wins the views total. But it’s a fun observation. Saturn and N64 keep changing leads

[night saddle]

dang wave race is one of the roughest I've seen yet without the texture filtering enabled. great it's running well though 🙂

[tidal zenith]

can someone TLDR texture filtering

I saw it on a youtube comment too

[night saddle]

now that's dedication! 👊

[night saddle]

IIRC it's bilinear filtering & what gives the N64 it's normal blurred look

[tidal zenith]

ah ok, that's what I thought

[night saddle]

also was used on voodoo cards around that time. I think trilinear filering wasn't really used until voodoo2 era

[brisk drum]

Next Saturn update is gonna be killer !

[cerulean elk]

I may run two next week because I’ve gotta get some other MiSTer vids out while still relevant

[restive cove]

with the latest version i can now play quest 64

[cerulean elk]

I’m so sorry for you

[restive cove]

all the games i've tested so far on this new core still works the same dk64 it progressed on the title kinda but you have to press start or it crashes

but when it lands donkey kong 64 and you him running around the screen it crashes

lol

[trim seal]

Taz Express still has interesting graphical glitches - but they're buttery smooth glitches now.

[devout leaf]

I can't get by the expansion pak screen

[trim seal]

There's a patch for the rom to skip that bit.

[restive cove]

the patch for dk64 does works on here too

getting past the expansion slot message

[vapid hawk]

the n64 bilinear filtering is only approximate too

a voodoo card at the time would've been better

[restive cove]

i wish i owned the voodoo cards and the 3dfx cards they were ahead of the time

[vapid hawk]

you still can! though they are somewhat less exciting in the present day 🙂

[pallid falcon]

@wanton sun I just this before logging off - you've made it in 'print': https://www.timeextension.com/news/2023/08/impossible-n64-mister-core-is-making-impressive-progress#comments

[restive cove]

super mario 64 still a no go for me

[pallid falcon]

Just saw... Time for bed. See you all tomorrow.

[restive cove]

good night

[native mesa]

Mario 64 crash

[restive cove]

for me it's just the title screen and then crash

[manic basin]

Are you using the no-intro patch?

[viscid nebula]

Yeah you have to skip the face manipulation intro part

[manic basin]

The face stretching demo crashes it.

Right.

[chilly ember]

Cool, road rash isn't crashing halfway through the first race now

[cerulean elk]

Mario’s face is forbidden in all forms

[restive cove]

lol

[last scarab]

a dinner fork or pitch fork? 😂

[viscid nebula]

I used to use my secondary card to get the primary out

now I use my car keys

[stone pilot]

I use the flat end of a chopstick

[elfin depot]

Keychain tweezers work great

[worldly quartz]

people take off their SD cards?

I either FTP or use terminal to copy stuff from usb

[trim seal]

I FTP for the most part without hassle, but occasionally I'll break something or network access breaks and I need to eject it and manually fix the problem - I just use my nails though.

[last scarab]

Same, I started using FTP mode updating the mister, menu and emulation cores

[cerulean elk]

Are people really having this much trouble getting the micro sd out?

[trim seal]

Apparently. It's finicky but not really that bad....

[onyx minnow]

it depends on the mister case, but the popular one is difficult

[trim seal]

Oh, Nightmare Creatures goes in game, noice.

[cerulean elk]

Ooh that’s why. I’m a raw dogger

[onyx minnow]

basically the sdcard itself doesn't protrude from the case at all, so you need to get into the tiny slot and push it in so it springs back, then it'll often fall inside the case

[worldly quartz]

Like not even stacked?

[marble cargo]

I have issues with getting the SD card out too. It's why I have a pair of tweezers nearby.

[cerulean elk]

It’s just the triple stack but not in a case

[worldly quartz]

Makes me glad I'm too cheap to get a proper case

[cerulean elk]

Just standoffs

[worldly quartz]

although I still wish I got an itx thingy but I have no space on my CRT area for a proper ITX case

the mister is lterally on top of my n64
Also getting the whole ITX is practically the price of a mister

[trim seal]

Just spring it so it flies out across the room and you can spent a few minutes searching for it on the carpet instead of in the case. Far more enjoyable.

[onyx minnow]

i was thinking of 3d printing the one side panel to indent where the card is

[cold pollen]

basically, there's a filter on the textures

[thick terrace]

i just watched a horse race in Derby Stallion (japan)

anybody try viewpoint64?

[lilac scroll]

Lol

[worldly quartz]

So realisitically speaking, when the core is completed, would someone be able to create clone devices using the code of the core?

Like you know like those clone famicoms from the 90s

[last scarab]

maybe a mini n64 classic!

[worldly quartz]

yeah something like that although PS1 doesn't have that yet (FPGA->device clone)

so maybe no interest yet from cloner side

[last scarab]

PS1 mini exists

[worldly quartz]

I mean, hardware level emu

[last scarab]

ahhh i see what you mean

[orchid nimbus]

I got 2 in box here 😄

[worldly quartz]

I got one and boy was it disappointing even after modding

just glad Nintendo never made an n64 one

given how disappointing the n64 online's initial release was

[orchid nimbus]

N64 FOG edition

[last scarab]

lol totally agree. I bought one for 50% off and figured someday ill use the plastic shell. Maybe ill throw the mister in it

https://i.redd.it/pe8l7k5ts1pa1.jpg

[worldly quartz]

I bought the pi 4 psone case with an LCD. That one felt a bit better but they cheaped out by putting upside down usb ports

[last scarab]

lol

[worldly quartz]

Too bad that never happened

I think it kind of lost steam with the SNES

like the SNES ones never ran out like the NES classics

and JApan didn't seem to have special editions of it

[last scarab]

i would love to just have it as a collecters item

[worldly quartz]

I mean, I would love the box but not the device

Although I do like my lunch box cases

[viscid nebula]

it makes a good doorstopper

[last scarab]

they could sold individual color controllers!

[last scarab]

isnt it wierd theres no color NSO controllers yet

lol

[worldly quartz]

what do you mean by color?

[last scarab]

remember n64 had color controllers

[worldly quartz]

ah those

I mean, they already gated the controllers

They really should remove the NSO requirement and sell it publicly

since it's being hoarded either way

it would have at least been easily available for peeps like me in a 3rd world country

[last scarab]

yup, i tried ordering the other day and you need a switch console tied to your nintendo account + nintnedo switch online subscription +n64 subscriptiion

[viscid nebula]

ew what the fuck

nintendo has turned into the worst gatekeepers ever

[worldly quartz]

yeah, I would rather the customer be like well I guess I'll have to get these subscriptions

rather than the current way of hoping nintendo restocks

Oh well, at least 8 bit do is an option

[last scarab]

i called up nintendo to confirm and they said its to deter people from ordering too many

seems like that problem isnt solved yet imo

[worldly quartz]

Sounds like they don't want to make too much of it

like make it limited and only produce how much they feel

[native mesa]

Same

[worldly quartz]

like the NES and SNES ones aren't in demand compared to the N64 ones

since it's a must for n64

[last scarab]

yeah should be sold at your eletronics shop behind a locked gate and 1 controller per person

[worldly quartz]

well Nintendo being nintendo

surprised they didn't make a GBA controller on one side and GB on the other

but I guess SNES and NES can cover it now that I think about it

[native mesa]

Nintendo is making color NSO controllers?

[last scarab]

shouldnt be hard to make a N64 controller each side

[native mesa]

Lol

The switch docks on those really ruined them

[orchid nimbus]

European and Japanese had - But America had to build theirs as a damn tank

[trim seal]

MK Trilogy still has occasionally flickering tiles/sprites, but it's running much better. If you leave attract long enough, it still hangs up when it reaches the Kitana bio though.

[viscid nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/funkyflies-gif-24953215

[deft tree]

Looking forward to playing 64 trilogy on this bad boy

[dreamy ridge]

several levels into starfox 64...game is still fire

[trim seal]

Oooh, sexy.

[deft tree]

I did a full play through on my everdrive a couple weeks back and was really pleased with how well it holds up

[zinc dew]

Damn that’s really cool

And you got the Atari stick below

[viscid nebula]

this is taking forever

;_;

[zinc dew]

Pick and choose, you don’t have to play all 298(?) games!

[viscid nebula]

you mean all 1128 games and 1000+ romhacks

yes I do

and in every region

and every beta

[zinc dew]

Oh wow

[trim seal]

Megaman 64 is fairly "playable"

[viscid nebula]

stupid sexy nintendo

[last scarab]

heck, i would be happy with gamecube style joystick

[trim seal]

Gex 3 is very smooth and playable.

[cerulean elk]

Ooh nice

[trim seal]

Same with Gex 64

[last scarab]

Has anyone try Star Wars - Rogue Squadron?

[trim seal]

Still not loading yet. E0022

[modern sleet]

Does anyone know the exact pixel clock for the N64? and /or the video timing.. I cant find a good source for this data

[trim seal]

Earthworm Jim 3D working well too. Those cute 3d platformers really benefited from this update.

[last scarab]

thanks for testing

[trim seal]

Also sorry to report that Clayfighter 63 1/3 is also working quite well, on the face of it.

[deft tree]

I have 3 of the MK sticks, a cab, and this 2p panel wired to a keyboard encoder lol

[quasi storm]

Superman now runs WAY faster. I swear it was better when it was slow...

[trim seal]

Just think of it as....now you don't have time to think about how you're spending your time.

[zinc dew]

The little marble collectibles are hilariously invisible making that game super hard lol

[trim seal]

I mean, I didn't say perfectly.. :p

[modern sleet]

I'm trying to see how the timing would match a real n64

[storm parrot]

which button gets mapped to the z-button on N64 on Xbox 360 controllers?

[storm parrot]

how did you get that screen to show up?

[modern sleet]

It's using a tink5x and a real 64

Was trying to calculate what the pixel clock would need to be to match the vert and horizontal freqs

[zinc dew]

@modern sleet working his magic!

[compact lark]

Perhaps the folks at https://n64brew.dev/wiki/Main_Page know. They have a discord server

[trim seal]

California Speed, if you quickly mash past the midway logo so it doesn't freeze, playing a race is buttery smooth 30fps. Graphics are mostly fine, few outliers.

Batman of the Future (EUR) pulls up the "Incorrect region" screen :p

[fair stump]

So I'm trying it out again on the new core with data cache on and I can actually tell a difference in the jetpack thrust power and how fast it runs out of energy compared to the 9 fps version

[deft tree]

LB is probably the “closest”

[cerulean elk]

That’s too much power

[fair stump]

Yep, the part I was stuck at is doable now. I imagine the game is completable at this point

[tidal glade]

AI shot:
The pixel clock for the N64 is 12.170453 MHz. This means that the N64 can output a maximum of 12.170453 million pixels per second. The N64's native resolution is 320x240, so at this pixel clock, the N64 can output a maximum refresh rate of 59.845 Hz. However, the N64 can also output lower resolutions, which will result in a lower refresh rate. For example, at a resolution of 240x160, the N64's refresh rate will be 30.375 Hz.

The pixel clock is determined by the N64's main clock, which is 50 MHz. The pixel clock is four times the main clock, because each pixel is represented by four 7-bit values.

The N64's pixel clock is relatively low compared to modern video game consoles. This is because the N64 was designed to be a low-cost console, and a lower pixel clock means that less hardware is required. However, the N64's pixel clock is still sufficient to produce high-quality graphics for its time.

[limber willow]

That doesn't make any sense, 160p at 30.3hz
No screen would sync that low

also, even if it were possible imagine how painful a 30hz refresh rate on a crt would be lol.

Remember, those PAL/NTSC screens were 15khz

[ocean lily]

Plus that doesn't consider the high rez interlaced mode(s)

[zenith orchid]

I just noticed. the MK64 demos run without crashing. Even with multiple players racing simulatenously in the demos, it seems to maintain a good framerate.

[ocean lily]

pretty sure demos don't run the AI code tho

[zenith orchid]

who knows

But still you have multiple screens rendering different parts of the track simultaneously

[dreamy ridge]

never played the n64 version of rampage till now and it's pretty fun!

[trim seal]

Tonic Trouble is graphically all over the place but "playable" - gets almost to the end of a course before freezing.

But...super smooth. Seems to be the catch-cry of this build - everything runs better until it doesn't.

[dusty tusk]

Z button on both triggers is how banjo handled it

This would probably make a decent N64 controller. The 360 version was pretty good for n64 emulation

[viscid nebula]

but is there a Z button

[quasi storm]

It just HAS to duplicate buttons for the face buttons. I understand it's for street fighter, and it works, but I swear finding the perfect controller for N64 is a daunting task.

[viscid nebula]

oh

z on both triggers

[quasi storm]

There's always something...

[viscid nebula]

interesting

[deft tree]

It’s called an n64 controller

[trim seal]

Lego Racers - very playable.

[dreamy ridge]

very strange...using the exact rom from that everdrive pack i get black screen when i boot diddy kong racing up. tried cache off and on.

[deft tree]

I have two FC octas and they’re great controllers, but I wouldn’t pick one over a 64 controller for 64 games

[devout leaf]

You have the pif and database copied over?

[dusty tusk]

I found that you basically get everything with these fight pads with sticks. Back button usually works for L. The C buttons Y, B, LB, RB. LT is Z, RT is R. For games that focus on analog at least

[quasi storm]

Ha, you don't say?! I'm talking about alternatives.

[dreamy ridge]

yup! definitely have the latest build too. many games work, mario kart, star fox, rampage

[devout leaf]

I wonder why mine works and others don’t

[dreamy ridge]

just trying to think what other variables there could be. did you adjust any of the other menu settings?

[dusty tusk]

This was my go to, shame the failure rate was so high

[quasi storm]

Just bought a retro fighters brawler64 Bluetooth controller. It's almost perfect... The restrictor gare is not 1:1

[deft tree]

There’s enough good USB and soon SNAC adapters, or if you want wireless the NSO controllers

[devout leaf]

Nope just that

[trim seal]

https://tenor.com/view/some-men-just-want-to-watch-the-world-burn-batman-alfred-quotes-gif-14054558

[quasi storm]

I challenge anyone here to show an alternative controller that has no caveats... Bet ya cant.

[dreamy ridge]

nintendo nearly pulled all copies of OoT off the shelves in shame after q_w_e_s_t_6_4 dropped

wow you really have a lot of bases covered with that unnamed game filter

[devout leaf]

Literally 1984

[dreamy ridge]

lmao i tried literally 5 increasinly absurd variations until the bonkers one above got through

[ember linden]

ǫᴜᴇsᴛ 64

hehe

[quasi storm]

You know, this question is much easier to answer with it's library as opposed to the PS1's.

Poor 64...

[ember linden]

The ʙᴇsᴛ 64 game is Mario Artist: Polygon Studio

[quasi storm]

Now I have to try it...

[ember linden]

come to think of it i dont think ive seen anyone try any of the 64DD cart ports

[frail jolt]

quête soixante-quatre

búsqueda sesenta y cuatro

quaerendum sexaginta quattuor

[severe rock]

Does this core require dual ram?

[trim seal]

Narp

[severe rock]

🤷

Guess I'll wait until next year to try it again

[manic basin]

Narp as in 'nope,' biggun. You can use it with any single ram expansion as well I believe. So even the smaller ones. But I'm not 100% sure on that.

[trim seal]

Oh yeah, sorry if that was ambiguous. Saw Hot Fuzz again recently, so Yarp and Narp are back in my lexicon.

[manic basin]

"Brain freeze?" "Brain WAVE!"

A reaction image for later....

[drowsy junco]

Resetting the Tribute64 controller fixed the syncing issue

[orchid nimbus]

yup

had to do that the 1st time

hey @desert crow

[desert crow]

you can use the map select on the debug version of Majora's mask to run around some rooms, it will crash though.

[orchid nimbus]

oh nice

1st ingame Zelda screenshot

[desert crow]

L+R+Z brings up map select

[devout leaf]

I still think I’m the only person getting DKR to play and I’m not sure why.

[orchid nimbus]

yeah I can't

does Goemon work for you?

[devout leaf]

Nope maroon screen

[orchid nimbus]

ok that used to work

[devout leaf]

Was hoping it’d work

[orchid nimbus]

intro demo

[devout leaf]

Hmmm, part of the fun of testing stuff out

[orchid nimbus]

that is a lot of fun indeed

were you here for the PSX testing?

[devout leaf]

Some of it yeah.

[void hemlock]

ℚᴜest64

[orchid nimbus]

new release - 10 testers knocking out the trouble game and testing games that worked and didn't work

Quest-64 is overrated

[devout leaf]

I’d like Brian in Smash Remix but that’s it lol

[orchid nimbus]

our first game we all set out sights upon was crash bandicoot racing and SotN

[deft tree]

ooh i hope they do add him SHINY

he'd be perfect

its nuts how many chars they've cranked out

[devout leaf]

Like how much more can they add lol

[devout leaf]

I remember some of that. It was the opposite for me then. I was having troubles but people were getting things to boot lol

[trim seal]

Chameleon Twist - running very well with minimal problems

[worldly quartz]

Does the banned game work well enough yet?

[manic basin]

I played through a bit of it. It's ... fine. Silicon lottery winner on one of my MiSTers, the other 3 are like 'nah.'

[worldly quartz]

I wanna feel the frustration of missing attacks constantly

[sullen harbor]

If people want a good controller to mess around with and also have a crapload of money
Thrustmaster Eswap X pro
Get the fighting pack
Replace the right thumbstick with extra buttons
use the program to change the buttons to L3 and R3
Six buttons, 2 bumpers, 2 analog triggers, one dpad and one analog stick
Works well with Saturn Emulation too

[worldly quartz]

who knows maybe you have a reverse of that hacked PSP thing that happened @devout leaf, where the dev targeted a specific user and deleted his files from the card if he loads up the cfw the dev made

[compact lark]

Wow, the ground texture is ultra low res

[orchid nimbus]

normally it's all blended by the overly agressive N64 smoothing stuff

[trim seal]

Just punch yourself in the eyes a few times then squint. Almost as good.

[orchid nimbus]

looks like fractal diffusion

https://www.mdpi.com/2504-3110/7/1/64

but what do I know 😄

[wanton sun]

no sound, but seems to work here fine. If it doesn't boot at all, maybe the pif is wrong?

[trim seal]

DKR? Diddy Kong Racing?

[devout leaf]

Yeah booted fine just graphical issues and no sound. 30 fps and I played four races till I stopped.

[trim seal]

DKR is working fine for me without sound, and races working well.

[wanton sun]

so vampier is doing something wrong 😅

[devout leaf]

My N64 snac shows up tomorrow so I’ll be ready for the day lol

Amazing how well some games run with chunks of the N64 missing.

[orchid nimbus]

I got 3 misters here - I'll try another one soon

[hallow sedge]

Wow, was that device? It looks amazing 😍

[orchid nimbus]

but seriously - I have VGA out active might that cause a difference?

[rose elbow]

when i first got the NSO N64 controller synced up and working, seemed good but A / B was swapped

i then went in to try and remap things and lost access to the joystick and wasn't able to map it manually. so i've put that on hold a bit, wondering if other people have played around and had luck with this

[tidal zenith]

It’s actually in progress right now, @hearty oar wrote a patch to the Linux kernel with updated drivers. It had a problem with the range so they’re fixing it now and it should be available eventually. There’s also this you can use in the meantime.

#1096015979055697940 message

[languid dune]

After an eventful day, I finally had a chance to test out the latest core build from today. Some really cool improvements! And surpringly some new games working.

[hearty oar]

well I merged someone else's patch, now I'm pretty much writing it lol, seeing as yeah the original patch just assumes n64 stick range == joycon/procon

but that original patch still gives us a real driver for the controller to work with that works with USB and has rumble, so props to them

[languid dune]

Was surprised to see stuff like Body Harvest working.

Also Brian 64 actually works! I couldn't believe it!

[manic basin]

Yeah, I got to the starter town and putzed around a bit for a capture. Seemed fine apart from some edge graphic issues.

[lament escarp]

I will complete this game as soon as there is save support

[boreal bobcat]

Trying to get the core to run. I'm getting Mario 64 logo to appear but then it just crashes and I get garbage on the screen. Also have E0006. What am I doing wrong?

[manic basin]

Check the pinned messages for a link to Vampire's page. It will get you to an ips patch that removes the face animation (which currently crashes the core).

[boreal bobcat]

thank you

[manic basin]

NP!

*Vampier.

I'm shame.

[oblique remnant]

it's a dirty job, but someone has to do it 🙂

[lament escarp]

Aidyn chronicles is what I'm truly afraid of.

[fair stump]

Just finished Star Wars Shadows of the Empire shout out to The Raccoon King, Tim Shafer

Game played wonderfully with some very minor slowdowns and one level that I wonder if it was going way too fast

[nova grotto]

You mispelled Megaman Legends

How can I activate the expansion pak in the core ?

[summer sleet]

First Game I tried lol Brian was Zoomin!

[manic basin]

Learn Verilog? Hehe. I don't think it's implemented yet.

[trim seal]

No, they misappropriated the game into this mess.

[quaint rune]

Mega mang

[versed cairn]

The ram is there but it’s not implemented like a ram expansion yet. Depending on how the game detects it it Might see the ram or not right now. If that makes sense.

[manic basin]

Yeah, none of the 'pak' flags seem to trigger for games yet in my experience.

[versed cairn]

#1096015979055697940 message I remember this one but that’s it

[chilly ember]

40 winks prototype says expansion Pak found but that's the only time I ever seen that message

[ripe prism]

If the controllers are back in stock I’d happily use my account to help a few dudes get an n64 controller

Nintendo fucked me with auto renew on the dumbass expansion+ thing

[lilac scroll]

Does anyone with the 8bitdo mod know if it’ll work wired when connected? Or is the wire just to charge?

[manic basin]

They work wired.

[sonic kiln]

I just tried this core for the first time. Wow MK64 is near perfect lol

[lament escarp]

My mister doesn't get a video out when I turn it on with the n64 modkit plugged in... was the same issue before. Wouldn't recommend using it wired in switchmode.

[lilac scroll]

Yikes

[lament escarp]

In dinput mode it works fine but no vibrations

Also, since the driver update I have to re pair the controller each time it or the mister get turned off. Can someone confirm this is the same with the nso controller?

[inner garden]

beat the rainbow cup in mario kart 64 but it froze on win screen transition

[hot spoke]

Can you take a photo of your BT adapter? Or tell me if it's a BT+WiFi adapter.

[hearty oar]

so I've been playing around with the driver a lot trying to fix it, rebooting my MiSTer constantly and haven't actually had this problem, I just press a button and it connects again

[lament escarp]

It's a cheap bt adapter from a local store, just bt no wifi.

[lament escarp]

It connects but no button is read whatsoever, can't even map the buttons again in the utility

[hot spoke]

Okay then. I had the same behavior as you described until I exchanged my BT+WiFi adapter with two separate ones

[hot spoke]

For me it didn't even connect

With another BT dongle everything works now

[lament escarp]

Are you using the nso controller or 8bitdo modkit?

[hot spoke]

NSO. Since you talked about the driver update I assumed you are too 😅

[lament escarp]

The 8bitdo mimics a nso, the switch sees it as such. Thats probably why the update got my rumble working as well. So the re-pairing issue is a modkit thing. Damnit. 😄

[hot spoke]

Like I said, I also had to repair everytime with a different BT adapter

[lament escarp]

Which bt connector are you using that works?

[lament escarp]

What also annoys me is that the 8bitdo kit is not compatible with the 8bitdo usb adapter. That would solve all compatibility.

[manic basin]

Maybe it's just bad luck, but the usb adapter compatibility is all over the place. A lot is my fault (I have multiple adapters that are the same color but I've mixed them up so I have to play the swapping game), but I was really hopeful that one would service all my devices. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but they seem to have affinity for specific classes. Firmware is the same on all of them (except the Xbox one which has its own whole ass toolchain separate from the others), but they seem to be picky about what connects. Again, probably my fault, but I normally use them wired anyway. I agree it would be super nice if it was totally universal.

[lament escarp]

I wrote 8bitdo an email with the suggestion to make it compatible. Usually I'm not a fan of their adapters, as they mask the id of the controller so I can't use 1 adapter for several controllers on mister and they all of the same id themselves, so I can't use several adapters. BUT if they were able to connect the the n64 controller, with rumble and all, it would all just work fine for that specific case since they're recognized as xbox 360 controllers.

[trim seal]

Automobili Lamborghini is running. Graphical glitches here and there (the lens flare textures are hilarious) but you can race and it's smooth locked 30 so far.

[remote hatch]

I'm very happy with Mario Kart 64 right now

My son finished 12 races yesterday and didn't want to go to bed

[quaint rune]

Has anyone recorded any footage of Zelda ? I wanna see something before shleep

[chilly ember]

Majora's Mask you can get into some levels with debug rom or demo but they tend to crash immediately or very shortly after

Also sound doesn't work in game

[quaint rune]

Oh wow, that’s so cool though. I dunno what the original frame rate of the game is but even now it looks smooth.

[chilly ember]

I agree it does look pretty smooth, will be cool to see how well it runs when it's stable enough to play without crashes

[lament escarp]

Iirc 20fps for oot and mm. Though I gotta admit the game feels smoother than that, maybe because of the low resolution.

[bronze tree]

hm, the demo and debug files are not in the N64-database.txt file, maybe we should add them

[timid torrent]

I think it is 60fps in the main menu at the start of the game, 20fps during gameplay and 30fps during the start menu

For oot

[unkempt elm]

I've been following the progress during a trip and finalyl got to try the N64 core today. It's been such a thrill seeing it move along at such a breakneck pace. Mario 64 plays great once I got out of Bob-Omb Battlefield with it's crazy map. Was showing it off to my friend and we both agree Mario is nightmare fuel.

Just scanning above and seeing Shadows of the Empire can be played. So exciting. Booted up Turok Dinosaur Hunter before seeing it was on the latest update videogame esoterica.

[chilly ember]

Road rash playing pretty smoothly for the most part with data cache on

[unkempt elm]

Booted up Starfox64 ad wasn't prepared for how dang smooth it was. So cool.

I know someone posted a ips for the switch N64 controller but I can't seem to get it to work with the Mister at all. Is it an issue where it can noly be used via bluetooth? I haven't bought a dongle for it, everything's been plugged in but if that's the only way. 👀

[old vortex]

From what I understand, it’s a Bluetooth only controller. It only charges via USB; no data.

[unkempt elm]

K, good to know. Guess it’s time to grab a dongle.

[trim seal]

Love a good out-of-context entendre.

[compact lark]

The NSO N64 controller works via usb?

[trim seal]

Yup. Works best via a patch that Shig posted earlier in the channel, replacing a file in the linux folder. You can use all the top buttons then as well.

[old vortex]

Well that’s the opposite of what I just said so 🤷‍♂️ Haha. Was just going off what I’d heard from others though, hadn’t tested wired myself.

[compact lark]

It apparently works via usb

[chilly ember]

Fighting Force running great with data cache but crashes after level 1.1

[twin torrent]

I'm using mine with a USB-C cable to the Mister. I'm using the zImage_dtb posted in the test-builds channel though. Everything works fine for me except rumble, but otherwise I'm quite happy

[twin torrent]

Try adding the zImage_dtb available in the test-builds channel, put it in your linux folder in the Mister SD card

[vapid hawk]

it'll work as a bluetooth controller without that but that special build is needed to use it via USB

[old vortex]

Cool, I’d seen that but still thought it was just for Bluetooth. I was sure I’d seen people saying earlier that the controller simply couldn’t work over USB, but glad to see people confirming it does (with those drivers). Thanks for the correction!

[ornate obsidian]

Tribute64 works well or nah?

Delivery for 8bitdo is a month away and finding a NSO controller here I'd have to pay double

The tribute has 2.4ghz so I was hoping it was working pretty good, so tired of bluetooth

[unkempt elm]

Oh cool. I’ll try and make it happen tomorrow when I tinker around with it. I knew someone was gonna catch that dongle line, haha.

StarFox64 definitely hits the hardest because the opening for it is so good with the Starfox in Nintendo 64 when you boot it up.

[fallen sparrow]

At work, without my MiSTer, but I had to bring my 3DS with Star Fox 🦊

Btw, no street pass yet

😔

[lilac scroll]

Wait it’s not??

[lament escarp]

Nah uh! Read the fine print on the usb adapter what it's compatible with.

[tropic sand]

Same crash after first level. Fighting force

[hearty oar]

new kernel image with updated NSO N64 test drivers: #controllers message

[viral swift]

So the NSO Controller supports the Rumble Pack now? Anybody tested starfox yet? 😁

[hearty oar]

Sadly you can’t until support is added to the n64 core itself - you can use it in the PSX core if you like though lol

[native mesa]

I need my coffee I read that as Brody Quest. https://youtu.be/ygI-2F8ApUM

[fair stump]

Just completed Elmo's Letter Journey 🎉 only a few hud issues but everything else appears to work no problem

[remote hatch]

this is a 20 minute game ? 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS_QbGMmv20

I did not know that such a game even existed

I see that there is also a version for the PSX

[fair stump]

Yep 😆 just a couple levels to play and that's it

[remote hatch]

nice 😄

[fair stump]

There are some funny glitch videos out there of it

[neat sierra]

Probably no need to go further with the core then

[fair stump]

I'm not sure if this specific gif is a user made corruption but there are videos of other characters freaking out as well

[native mesa]

Do the letters you need to find each time change at least for replayability?

What was with that era of games and everything being a collectathon though

[marble cargo]

https://youtu.be/EzQiQ1pVlN8?si=qiEVWPvOSjfe4udO

Terminal 7 Street

[compact depot]

This was suggested by Google today: https://www.timeextension.com/news/2023/08/impossible-n64-mister-core-is-making-impressive-progress 😃

[hollow rune]

I saw this but got distracted before I posted

The first comment was unfortunately a bit of a bummer

Apparently because of FPGA, cores are supposed to be 100% accurate on the first iteration

[compact depot]

I usually ignore the comments section in those sites haha

[unkempt elm]

This worked! Thanks.

[native mesa]

Well they clearly don't understand the piecemeal methodology of this development

It is interesting what does and doesn't work with an incomplete implementation

I don't like how the blogger says the 'core is making progress' like it's developing itself.

[compact depot]

The Peip core

[remote hatch]

SPASS CORE 😛

[safe robin]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-cute-smile-fun-spass-gif-17365668

[hollow rune]

He is the Haribo of MiSTer

[safe robin]

its so hard to get a german gif with discords gif function. they just translate every word to english it seems 😄

[neat sierra]

Hey if European countries had invented the internet I’m sure they could have chosen the language 😜

USA USA USA

[mystic galleon]

internet invented by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, a British computer scientist born in London

[hollow rune]

not really europe 😛

[native mesa]

Spaß64

[neat sierra]

Did you not read my conclusive USA chant? Case closed

[native zephyr]

@mystic galleon best inventions from the British 🇬🇧

[viscid nebula]

Timeextension are good peeps

They’ve blasted me out a few times

[hollow rune]

I would make a British food joke but I am in Bavaria

[neat sierra]

#1 best British invention: American colonies (unless you were indigenous 😬)

[native mesa]

I like Roberts name. For anyone wondering it's FPGAforFUN in english

[mystic galleon]

the British invented time, which means @hollow rune does not get to sit down for his Bratwurst until we tell him its time to

[hollow rune]

lol

also it is her Bratwurst

[neat sierra]

Ah no kidding? Never gave the name any thought

[native mesa]

When is Oktoberfest?

[mystic galleon]

ahh sorry panda ❤️

panda is Oktoberfest actually a thing there?

[hollow rune]

of course. It is coming up soon

[native mesa]

Lol

[hollow rune]

This place will be swarming with people

[native mesa]

We have Oktoberfest in Cleveland this weekend but I'd love to go to real Germany Oktoberfest

[mystic galleon]

ahh, my German friends tell me its not a thing, but I guess its more a Bavarian thing /Shrug

[native mesa]

Get some Wienerschnitzel

Didn't realize it was veal though.

I may need to rethink my life

[deft tree]

might have to get a schnitzel sandwich from the german bakery for lunch...

[remote hatch]

schnitzel mmmmm

[neat sierra]

Yeah I stopped eating that one 😢 At least it’s possible to raise a pig humanely even if it rarely happens 😅

Anyway that’s too far off topic

[native mesa]

So since male dairy calfs are basically useless to the milk industry they slaughter them for veal real young

Anything tangentially German is on topic here lol

[limber willow]

Anything tangentially German is on topic here lol
lol

[hot spoke]

It is. I'm from Berlin and I don't know a single person that enjoyed the visit at Oktoberfest. Most people I know never even went there in the first place.

[primal bolt]

any German women here

[mystic galleon]

now I'm hungry for Wienerschnitzel and a new core

[lament escarp]

Damnit me too. 😄

[limber willow]

Now I get excited when the #test-builds channel looks bold lol

[hearty oar]

sorry I tricked you with boring linux stuff instead

[neat sierra]

Test-builds: dick smith wizzard more accurate colors

[native mesa]

My SO is. Maybe more Russian though

[primal bolt]

I like Russian and German

[mystic galleon]

so whats with the ram? I have one stick of 128 and apparently there are different stats for that ram which is important for the N64 right now? how do i check if I have the good ram? my games seem to run worse than the youtube videos of the core

[hot spoke]

Did you try turning on the Cache in the core menu?

[mystic galleon]

ahhh, Marry me bedsector xD

*badsector lol

any other settings i need to change?

[hot spoke]

Just turn it off again if the games crash or don't boot at all. Please note that far from all games are running yet. The other options might be fun to play around with, but they just made the performance worse for me and I just barely understand what exactly they do

I mean the two or three other options below the cache option

[mystic galleon]

kool thanks for the help

[hot spoke]

You're welcome!

[hollow rune]

Very glad FPGAzumSpass isn't French because then anything tangentially French would be on topic. And I find that language really difficult to read. One might call it the Gary Oak to my Ash Ketchum.

[native mesa]

Freedom fries

[hollow rune]

My parents told me about this and how this name came about is the worst

[native mesa]

It's weird encountering people that weren't sentient during 911

[safe robin]

what is this? an error message you see? i never saw this message so i dont know how to help

[native mesa]

Especially in a retro gaming community

[remote hatch]

N64-database.txt ?

[safe robin]

i was 14 back then and i missed the Freedom fries thing 😅 maybe it was not that big of a topic in every part of the world

[remote hatch]

https://vampier.net/N64/

[carmine kettle]

case sensitive upper-case N

[remote hatch]

yes

/games/N64

[viral swift]

Guys, /games/N64 is not the right path

[remote hatch]

game folder /N64

[limber willow]

hehe that's exactly what happened.
That said, if I didn't have the 8bitdo pcb for my N64 controller, I'd be excited for what you made

[remote hatch]

and what is the right path ? 🙂

[viral swift]

/media/{fat,usb0}/games/N64 to be precise

[limber willow]

same place you put your N64 games

[remote hatch]

yes so its correct

[viral swift]

where {fat,usb0,...} is your defined games location

[remote hatch]

games/n64/ my games

[cunning fable]

@remote hatch he meant the / that points to the root filesystem

[cunning fable]

like in here

[viral swift]

as a linux guy for my whole life this gets me crazy 🤣

[limber willow]

If you're having issues, it took me a while to get the right boot.rom file.
This is the md5sum of mine (US/NTSC)
/media/fat/N64# md5sum boot.rom
5c124e7948ada85da603a522782940d0 boot.rom

[remote hatch]

great 🙂

[remote hatch]

i dont' have any issues 🙂

[limber willow]

my bad, was only skimming the channel in between halo games lol

[cerulean elk]

August News vid in 2 minutes. It was hard not to just make it the "N64 is amazing, heres other things but that 64 tho" news episode lol

https://youtu.be/QT5kb3qCtqU

more man without a face lol

[bronze tree]

thanks, keep 'em coming 🙂

[hollow rune]

My mom is super angry she saw the picture of Mario without a face. I am not alowed to have it on a screen when she is in a room

[viscid nebula]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://tenor.com/view/its-just-not-right-mistake-fault-confusion-kevin-james-gif-15798235

[native mesa]

Just tell her it was never really a face to begin with

Just pixels

Aren't we all just pixels in the end

[trim seal]

Speak for yourself. I'm 100% nurbs.

[native mesa]

Scutoids even

[cerulean elk]

tell your mom I said it was ok and I'll be over tonight with wine and candles

[drowsy lantern]

I can’t get Diddy Kong Racing to work either. Is it because I’m using the Rev 1 rom?

[silent marten]

Are you using unstable main and the database txt file?

[drowsy lantern]

Ah no I have the stable main.

[hollow rune]

My mom won't be home tonight, but my dad would love a margarita pitcher. Only if you bring the pointer.

[bronze tree]

@drowsy lantern here's some info https://vampier.net/N64/

[cerulean elk]

Ill drink with your dad

probably a good dude

[drowsy lantern]

Most other games run fine (Mario Kart, StarFox, etc.), but DKR doesn’t boot.

[silent marten]

OK this will be why, unstable main + database txt auto detects CIC file that the games use 🙂

[drowsy lantern]

I do have the database file in the folder.

[native mesa]

You can manually set CIC if you really don't want instable

[silent marten]

You can thank @bronze tree for these changes 🙂

[drowsy lantern]

Okay manually setting the CIC did it! Thanks! 🙂

[hearty oar]

I would definitely recommend grabbing the unstable main and the database file, makes loading games a lot less painful

...assuming they are in the database and your roms have the right first 4kb hash

[limber willow]

is there anything I can do to make it load 240p test suite and padtest?

[hearty oar]

oh, there was a savestate you could use posted here somewhere...

here it is #1096015979055697940 message

just pop that file in /savestates/N64 on your SD card, load the rom, ignore the message and hit load state

that's for controller test sorry, not sure about 240p test suite, haven't tried it

[limber willow]

thanks

[hollow rune]

Speaking of savestates, does the core make them yet? I tried it and then tried to reload and it failed

[stuck sinew]

Anyone tried direct video with the new core? Does it still have the alternating pixel offsets?

[cerulean elk]

they purge after reload. They exist but dont PERSIST

[marble cargo]

Tried out that new kernel for the NSO controller, and I already noticed improvements. Performing the mini-turbo in Mario Kart 64 feels more consistent than before.

[native mesa]

DK Racing without audio is strange

[limber willow]

nope. I tried with gex64, didn't make one

[limber willow]

still has the alternating pixel offsets

[hollow rune]

Is all the controller stuff in the Vampier faq?

[native mesa]

What is PI?

Program increment?

[hearty oar]

3.14

[vague sun]

So are games that aren’t in the database txt file not loading? I had trouble loading unlicensed and patched games.

[devout leaf]

Truly a society

[cunning fable]

hey, i have the same switcher... which is becoming more and more useless with all these MiSTer cores haha

[marble cargo]

Compatibility is pretty spotty, so for now just assume it's just the core failing to boot the edge cases.

Also double check to make sure the patches are compatible with original hardware.

[severe rock]

I couldn't get a single game to boot on the latest nightly, is there a trick to it?

[sly wasp]

did you check the pinned messages and also the guide from vampier? https://vampier.net/N64/

[severe rock]

Like push the start button really fast

[severe rock]

I did not good sir, thank you

As always, vampier to the rescue

[sly wasp]

there's a few hoops to jump through before things will work for you properly

[cerulean elk]

I need an RGB BNC switcher

Tired of reaching around my PVM and feeling shit blind

[sly wasp]

what res is your pvm @cerulean elk ?

[cerulean elk]

Just 240p. I’ve got three. Two 14” and a 20”

[sly wasp]

I get squished image on my BVM that;s supposed to be able to do 240p and 480i..only in the n64 core...I tried the vampier recommended settings..using rgb via hdmi adapter

[hearty oar]

It does that on my PVM, but it goes away after you load a game

[cerulean elk]

All of them will do 480i. Just a trick in the 240p signal

I haven’t tested 64 yet on my PVM

I need a multi sync for my 24khz boards.

[sly wasp]

Wow thanks so much, let me try to load a game..hard to see when it seems to be throwing away half the pixels and squishing the rest to only the bottom half of the screen

[zinc dew]

hey everyone, new MiSTer owner here. Why do games run slowly and the pixels are so blocky? Is my system broken?

Also nice to meet everyone, thanks for accepting me into this Discord

[narrow ruin]

@zinc dew because the N64 core is 20% complete yet

[native mesa]

I guess so. I still ahve Dreamcast, PS2 and Wii going through it. Also I have a loopback into a retrotink 5x for 240p downscaling

[daring meteor]

Play Holy Magic Century it fixes bug

[little socket]

Becauae someone loosened up his shackles

[marble cargo]

Dipping the MiSTer in boiling grease should fix the problem.

[sly wasp]

welcome @zinc dew

[zinc dew]

Yeah right. I can load the core right now. It’s 100% complete!

[zinc dew]

Thank you for welcoming me. I heard the MiSTer is a good software emulator.

[little socket]

Alternatively you can sand up your oleds display

Should smooth thinga out

[sly wasp]

Indeed..but you might want to google FPGA before the mods kick you out of this server..I hear they can be very harsh

[zinc dew]

What that’s not true

[zinc dew]

I not afraid of no mods

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4taIPiHFdhU

[hollow rune]

I will say that My Life in Gaming video from 2022 wasa really good primer for me when I knw nothing

[narrow ruin]

nothing is ever 100% complete, especially our life 🤔

[hollow rune]

If new people would watch that they would be pretty ready to roll

[remote hatch]

your software emulator is broken

[orchid nimbus]

it sure is

[hollow rune]

Was it like this when PSX was starting to come together, new people interested in MiSTer would flood the Discord?

[brisk drum]

Not really

It was usually the same crew

Me , fuzz, vamp, vge, I believe kuba was there as well

And many other power users

N64 just has wider appeal I think

[remote hatch]

yes I was there, I fought

I lost my health , almost divorced , but tested to the end

[orchid nimbus]

so geniuses - DD Kong No Boot - clean n64 config files - verified bios - tried no intro and everdrive versions - why doesn't it boot?

[brisk drum]

Deep in the trenches!

Vampier has never been the same since ..

[orchid nimbus]

I mean FPGAZumspass was even teasing me with it

https://tenor.com/view/mad-amargo-gizmo-crazy-flor-gif-19569017

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-gizmo-si-yes-gif-19011895

after and before pic

[brisk drum]

When all that mattered was MSX

[remote hatch]

I have not yet tried to run this game 😄

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-baby-yoda-yoda-cute-the-mandalorian-gif-17870401

Current

[remote hatch]

I'm only playing MK64

[brisk drum]

Is that running perfect ?

[hollow rune]

on the new one, it is real close

[remote hatch]

for me yes 🙂

[brisk drum]

Is crt support still bunk ?

[remote hatch]

my son finished 12 races yesterday

[orchid nimbus]

not a problem here

[remote hatch]

Mario Kart 64 ;P

[brisk drum]

Do we need latest unstable ?

[hollow rune]

I am curious on Luigi Raceway, when going down into the tunnel, the road has these seams in it where you can see what I guess is the skybox through it. I am super wondering if that was in the original, cause I nver saw it before

Or maybe with later RDP revisions that will go away

[raw oriole]

MiSTer doesn’t do CRT, everyone knows that.

[orchid nimbus]

even this works

[paper orchid]

Oh right I was gonna play that last night

[fallen sparrow]

Not the Mama

[hollow rune]

That is one of the games I will wait until the core is closer to perfect to play

[zinc dew]

I demand perfection, I have high standards!!

[hollow rune]

I corrected my statement lol

[orchid nimbus]

I feel like this too

[sly wasp]

Thanks so much..I used the MiSTer remote app on my phone to load mariokart 64 and it shows full screen now on my BVM CRT! Thanks again! 🙏🏾

[dreamy ridge]

thanks guys, when i get home from work i will try a new pif. in the meantime i had an absolute BLAST last night with starfox 64 which is wildly playable

[orchid nimbus]

good - it crashes

[primal bolt]

alright who is buying all the n64 controllers

[cerulean elk]

Great product but the mods here SUCK. Well one of them does

[sly wasp]

yeah seems to be but you can get in game using the MiSTer remote app by wizzo (if you have the same unreadable menu/text issue)

[paper orchid]

John Romero made your MiSTer his bitch

[primal bolt]

2

thank G-d console5 has n64 rubber pads

anyone try Pilotwings 64?

[oblique remnant]

Still no boot of this techdemo

[brisk drum]

Noooooo!

[hot spoke]

You could put 1 single (small) ROM into your N64 folder so you can start that blindly everytime. Just press A, up and A when the Core ist started and you get a normal menu after that.

[pallid falcon]

Yes, one of them of is a complete Brian 64. Think his nick is Bobby or something like that. Bans anyone who disagrees with him.

[sly wasp]

thanks for this. I used the remote app to get ingame

[pallid falcon]

Someone else is testing Japanese exclusives, thank you thoseposers (and Smartball). 😅

[mild ether]

Adds level select to pause menu under Features.

figured it out finally.

[zinc dew]

https://x.com/quest64official/status/1697010777180209327

[desert nest]

OoOooOoO Reflex Adapt gets delivered today, excited to try it out with the core

[wanton sun]

this happens if the savetype is not set to eeprom 4k, can happen if you don't have unstable mister+database

[lean spruce]

I thought saving wasnt implemented yet?

[desert nest]

Saving to SD card isn't implemented IIRC

[mortal apex]

I received mine yesterday, its amazing. Didn't have a lot of time to try it with the core, but I played a bit of star fox and mario kart and it felt just like the real thing.

[mild ether]

CRC check looks to be in the same spot on pert near every rom so Nintendo just wanted to be annoying.

[safe robin]

seeing x.com makes me want to play x-com 😄

[orchid nimbus]

running update_all after update_N64 can overwrite the mister main unstable

no clue why it happens as unstable is always the latest but so be it

if this happens auto detect of games will fail

and DD Kong will not auto boot untill the CIC is set to 6103

[graceful radish]

@wanton sun sorry if this has already been asked but what are the prospects for getting homebrew to run on the core? I tried adding a database entry for it. I can provide error codes later. It boots to a black screen 🙂 It's this one to be exact. https://github.com/wermipls/mimi

[orchid nimbus]

@graceful radish @bronze tree is the administrator of the romdb

[graceful radish]

Thanks, though I'm not sure it's a database issue. It could be that I just have the wrong cic or something.

[languid dune]

This feels like a direct attack on muh boi @brisk drum

[brisk drum]

Stand down , it’s all good G . I’m sure Robert will prioritize Daikatana for next build

[primal bolt]

poser

[eternal island]

lol... i got a buddy who wants to run through a certain n64 rpg that won't be named when the core is done

i refuse to do such a thing

[primal bolt]

the RPG that Adventure Taco got banned?

[eternal island]

this man will add a completed save to my mister for it, so that i won't suffer

[atomic stratus]

I tried this a couple spreadsheet streams ago and…yeah…let’s just say I didn’t have as much fun with it as I did the GBC version

[orchid nimbus]

glorious

[primal bolt]

Vampier its a new day... can you try WCW/nWo World Tour

[manic basin]

@wanton sun Error E0065
448f962442ab49f5e242443c68aa7699
CIC 6102

[graceful radish]

Thanks, Andy!

[manic basin]

NP!

[orchid nimbus]

448f962442ab49f5e242443c68aa7699 ntsc|cic6102 # Mimi Controller Tester

this is the entry for the database

[pallid falcon]

Zool - Majuu Tsukai Densetsu was working just fine when I was playing it yesterday. I say go for it. 😉

[manic basin]

Mitt and Matt's theme is awesome.

[primal bolt]

is there a translation

[manic basin]

No

[pallid falcon]

When save (states) are working, I'm looking forward to not having to sit through the intro again.

[manic basin]

Not that I know of anyway

[primal bolt]

major bummer, dude

[orchid nimbus]

Dracula: "WHAT IS A MAN?!"

[primal bolt]

dont ask, its 2023

[orchid nimbus]

OH CRAP

please don't ban me

[languid dune]

So how does this work exactly? I'm not familiar with this type of install(?) on MiSTer. #test-builds message

[primal bolt]

you put the core file in the core folder

manually

[desert crow]

Think he said it was a problem with something the homebrew library did. libdragon maybe, but maybe a savestate could get around that like the other controller test rom.

[languid dune]

So in the folder with all the console core rbf files?

[primal bolt]

yea

[languid dune]

Huh, well that sounds easy enough.

[lament escarp]

It renames the file in sd/linux, drips the new file via ftp and does a hard reboot. Then it puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose!

[languid dune]

And then it just works? Nothing else needed to set it up?

[lament escarp]

You mean the nso driver stuff right? 😄

[primal bolt]

might need bios? sometimes need mister unstable file

[graceful radish]

How did you pick CIC6102? I think I already tested that line the other day but I'll confirm when I get home. Could be another bug and I'm not trying to distract from development.

[languid dune]

I'm referring to this:

[manic basin]

I use a lookup table for the first 4032 bytes of boot code

[primal bolt]

oh... not sure about that

[lament escarp]

Yeah, see the silence of the lambs style instructions I gave ya. 😄

[orchid nimbus]

@manic basin picked it - I assume it to be true 😄

[manic basin]

I made a tool, but haven't shared it because I haven't worked out the little endian hash yet and I went on vacation.

[primal bolt]

vampier can you try WCW/nWo Revenge

[orchid nimbus]

I can try anything after work

[languid dune]

Can...can I get it in English?

[manic basin]

But it works for v and z just fine.

[primal bolt]

wait for the next update

[primal bolt]

dang

[lament escarp]

There is a file with the same name on your sd/linux folder. You rename that to name_old or something, than drop the file from test builds in the same folder. To replace the renamed one.

[devout leaf]

I think only World Tour works now. On the title someone said press down and a

You don’t see the menu but it’s there I guess

[primal bolt]

thats the first one so we should test that one first

[languid dune]

Thanks! Maybe Vampier should add that to his faqs.

[lament escarp]

Don't forget to cold reboot after!

[primal bolt]

The 4 THQ wrestling games are amazing

and the 2 Japanese ones

Nitro sucks

[orchid nimbus]

the script takes care of it

[tropic sand]

http://micro-64.com/database/gamecic.shtml

[graceful radish]

Thanks, I mostly meant for homebrew 🙂

[manic basin]

But also in general very few homebrews don't use 6102 in my testing.

[zenith orchid]

So are we testing issues with and without data cache?

[cerulean elk]

Miserable little pile of logic gates

[zealous hull]

Are humans turing complete?

[past mango]

I can't wait to crank out some Zelda 64 randos on my PVM

[cerulean elk]

I’m gonna hook up some 64 to my PVM today too

I want to see chunky pixels on analog

[orchid nimbus]

Grand Turing-isimo

[last scarab]

where did you order? I only see a n64 reflex adapter

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-turing-gif-27416957

[carmine kettle]

https://misteraddons.com/collections/parts/products/hdmi-controller-adapters?variant=40250232832133

[orchid nimbus]

skip the MiSTer plug straight into your TV

review: doesn't work 0/5 stars

[last scarab]

Did it show as a drop down option N64 SNAX Adapter?

[orchid nimbus]

😄 lol - wait for it

[cerulean elk]

What do you mean? I plugged my PS1 SNAC adapter into my TV, plugged the controller in and was playing games

Hidden feature

[drowsy junco]

Spoilers: There's a micro-MiSTer in the adapter

[sly wasp]

wondering what TV stands for in this context 🫢 🌈

[hasty kayak]

Total Visionary

[cerulean elk]

Telephonic Videosystem

[native mesa]

Translucent vag

[wanton sun]

homebrew usually has no copy protection check and therefore will not need cic set up. Maybe savetype, but i doubt a controllertest uses that. In this case, mimi uses a memory area that is not yet implemented. I currently don't know which that is and i'm not sure yet when i have time for searching...

maybe i add seperate error flags in the next builds for the different memory areas that are still missing, so it's easier to identify

[hasty kayak]

Call one of the Error Flags "EDAVE"

[wanton sun]

sorry, no V in hex

[orchid nimbus]

EBEEF EDEAD ECAFE

ECACA

[manic basin]

There's no V in hex, but there IS eye of newt.

[native mesa]

Up your game to base64

The first woman I was with was named V

You could say she took my V card

[safe robin]

EB00B 😆

[hasty kayak]

EBROKEN!!

[orchid nimbus]

707+707=1414 (lol+lol=hihi)

[compact depot]

Please update the database file from your site! Thanks! 😌

[native mesa]

Is this database just a short term solution to CIC check?

Basically any ROM patch would break it right?

[manic basin]

Hex is like my high school English teacher. "I'd have given you a worse grade, but it only goes to F."

[manic basin]

You'd have to md5 the first 4096 bytes after the patch and add it, yes.

[cerulean elk]

I heard after she tried to give it back

[hasty kayak]

Hahah a bit of Ultra Sixty Porn?

[cerulean elk]

But I shouldn’t talk: Video Game Esoterica…disappointing women since 2000

🤣

[fair stump]

I did read your channel name as Video Game Erotica the other day 🤣

[weary palm]

@manic basin please share your code, I love C#

[lament escarp]

It's not?!

[fair stump]

Not until the Vivid Dolls video at least

[cerulean elk]

If I do more vids on weird Japanese VNs maybe I’ll say welcome back to…erotica

[eternal island]

dont worry, i'm sure some day more pc engine games will get translated

i think thats the console with a very interesting japanese game list isn't it

[lament escarp]

Y'all making fun about this game, but I'm really looking forward to it for it's great gameplay and interesting puzzles.

[fair stump]

Great personality I hear

[cerulean elk]

I just play the game for the articles

[mild ether]

Best Qix clone on N64 hardware guaranteed!

[mortal apex]

Yeah. We're not there yet, but the mister mosquito video from a few days ago was a start 🤣

[mild ether]

Would say best on MiSTer but Gals Panic SS is on Saturn and is more polished.

[carmine kettle]

yes

[brisk drum]

Diddy Kong works for me but no sound

[mild ether]

https://youtu.be/LZBwo2Z22zQ?si=hTpwKDczOUtCmjLn

[manic basin]

Sure, I'll DM you a zip.

[mild ether]

Fun games.

[native mesa]

They really like their cartoon women in japan

[mild ether]

Yes.. it's a bit strange but it's still a good game. Music and sound effects are great.

[native mesa]

It's probably more for the developers than it is the consumer. Putting in 80 hour work weeks probably got lonely

[manic basin]

It's more McCarthy and reconstruction.

If you study Japanese history and the post WWII influences it makes sense.

[mild ether]

They sure put a lot of love into DOA Beach Volleyball and you gotta love them for it.

[fair stump]

McCarthy loved his waifus

[manic basin]

Zack's mirror Teletubby costume is still maybe my favorite costume in all of gaming. It's in DOA proper as well, but it's much funnier when you're having a serious conversation about the future of your relationship.

[cerulean elk]

Well this isn’t what I expect to read here lol

[oblique remnant]

Mouser has like 800+ De10-Nanos in stock

[viscid nebula]

only at 1.5x the price

[oblique remnant]

depends when you bought it 😄 never saw that many available. last year was a complete drought

[zinc dew]

You good here or do you need any additional help? I'm here for ya, brother.

[sonic kiln]

DDR3 overclock affects N64 core performance definitely. Anyone know if any game which struggles with memory bandwidth or latency where I can benchmark performance?

[viscid nebula]

I got one earlier this year, less than 48 hours later it arrived

guess I was just lucky

[oblique remnant]

I had to order mine from the opposite side of the globe for around the same price as on mouser now

[wanton sun]

what test is that?

[sonic kiln]

Some first google result for N64 memory bandwidth 😅😅 https://segaxtreme.net/threads/n64-memory-benchmark.25197/

If anyone wants to try overclocking their DDR3: https://github.com/coolbho3k/MiSTer-Overclock-Scripts/blob/master/mister_mem_oc.sh

The script defaults to setting it from 800 MHz to 900 MHz but you can change it to whatever you want.

Mine goes up to 1050 MHz (1050000 in the file) and crashes at 1100.

[orchid nimbus]

@sonic kiln that's a nice debug script you have there

[waxen lodge]

Tested Irritating Stick and seems to play perfect (tho I may not), added to the sheet https://streamable.com/au3tkg

[manic basin]

It's shockingly fun.

Pun unintended, for real. But ...there it is.

[wanton sun]

i already tried it with the ddr3 testcore, my de10-nano crashes absolutly randomly 50% of the time i do any change to clock speed

[frail jolt]

Lies... all add-ons stuff is garbage

Just as an FYI......... my entire set up is brought to you by........ misteraddons....

[final walrus]

Oh hey, Berliner here too

[sonic kiln]

Damn. Mine ran the DDR3 testcore perfectly for hours at 1050 😭

[manic basin]

Silicon lottery is the worst lottery after Shirley Jackson's.

[wanton sun]

the problem is not running at different clock, the problem was switching

[sonic kiln]

Did you try my new script? It slowly ramps the speed by 25MHZ at a time. I find that the large frequency jumps are what causes crashes for me

[frail jolt]

@cerulean elk ..you order some addon reflexeseseses?

[wanton sun]

no, only tried the old method

[cerulean elk]

No. Didnt really need them between my controller collection and SNAC/SNAX

[frail jolt]

N64 just walked into the room .. helicopter dicking all aroind

[manic basin]

I grabbed one and it'll be here today. But mostly it was just an excuse to force myself to go find my original N64 controllers. They're buried somewhere. In storage, not like on a beach.

[cerulean elk]

sounds like a silicon lottery situation. RAM is so touchy with timings when OC'd. XMP on my DDR5 was giving me hard crashes. I switched brands...fine. But the brand I switched too others report issues with. Never an easy answer

[orchid nimbus]

back in my day we were happy with 3.58mhz and 64kb

[sonic kiln]

Btw with the test core I also found improvement. Though max delay is similar.

At stock 800 MHz, burst=1:
Bandwidth: 562 MB/s, avg delay: 15

Overclocked to 1050 MHz, burst=1:
Bandwidth: 648 MB/s, avg delay: 13

At stock 800 MHz, burst=128:
Bandwidth: 873 MB/s, avg delay: 16

Overclocked to 1050 MHz, burst=128:
Bandwidth: 901 MB/s, avg delay: 12

[marble cargo]

So how does the overclocking affect the other cores?

[cerulean elk]

I remember when overclocking meant switching jumpers and crystal packages

[sonic kiln]

It’s a dance between memory controller and the RAM itself. I don’t think it would affect other cores noticeably and maybe in the final version of N64 wouldn’t matter either

Even in this version of N64 maybe it only affects that one synthetic benchmark. I’m not sure lol

[unique coral]

Been running the de10 cpu overclocked since your patch was accepted, not a single issue..

[sonic kiln]

The RAM part in DE10 Nano is rated for 1066 btw.

It’s the memory controller that’s only 800 MHz

[orchid nimbus]

I remember it as using vdp(10)=0 and swithing to 60hz PAL from 50hz PAL 😄

[cerulean elk]

I haven't even bothered overclocking my i912900K. The extra 200ish Mhz I could get isn't worth the heat / hassle of stability. Fucking thing runs hot stock

Intel's entire MO right now seems "just let it run right near the point of fucking melting"

[manic basin]

That was AMD for decades. They decided to swap playbooks.

[orchid nimbus]

yup - not unhappy with a recent AMD purchase - the first one in 18 years

[cerulean elk]

last week when it was 106 outside even with AC and a 3 fan rad on the CPU I had to put off rendering because I'd throttle in 30 seconds

[plush summit]

Yeah, I only buy and run bone stock, I chase down the best price/performance components

[cerulean elk]

I timed the OC I could get stable in a test render timeline...all that extra heat and voltage for like a 12 second diff. No thanks

[compact depot]

@zinc dew please stop posting stuff to the #test-builds channel since every time you do that I run to NOT find a new N64 core build. Thanks for your understanding! 😌

[manic basin]

@zinc dew Please post only Q**st 64 gifs to the test-builds channel. Because if irony isn't dead, you should at least make it feel pain.

[cerulean elk]

Dont you say @zinc dew s name to me. HES DEAD TO ME

[manic basin]

A Tribe Called 64

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3pyCGnZzYA these guys hated the game so much they wanted to kick it

but they asked for permission first

[hollow rune]

I wanted to do it via YouTube but I have to wait 24 hours. I will be streaming testing on Twitch. Come hang out with me if you want to see how games run.
https://www.twitch.tv/rgw_panda

[final walrus]

🥵

[cerulean elk]

its been so hard not to make any edging jokes in voice overs

took all the restraint I had

[final walrus]

Would you say you were really close to it, several times

[cerulean elk]

right up to the edge but pulled back

some might say

[mortal apex]

For the current test core it seems the 4 controllers are plugged in by default. I'm guessing there's no way to change that currently?
Not that most people will care about that game, but it looks like Jeopardy disables controls when the fourth port is used.

[brisk drum]

Finally got to listen to the buckbumble theme on the core

[visual forge]

I played Quest бЧ today for the first time in maybe 20 years. Very awesome day!!

[wanton sun]

would be some easy option, but so far i didn't care

[mortal apex]

Ok I figured as much, just wanted to make sure. I dont really care about it either tbh 😅

[visual forge]

It said there was no memory card, I assume that hasn't been implemented yet?

[cerulean elk]

Jeopardy only matters if its Norm McDonald playing Burt Reynolds

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/turd-ferguson-norm-macdonald-burt-reynolds-ape-tit-funny-af-gif-12466131

[cerulean elk]

I dunno who I loved and miss more...Norm or Burt Reynolds

[oblique remnant]

for the record this are the results from a real N64 🙂

[sonic kiln]

Fascinating

[wanton sun]

if you want to compare, make sure the datacache on the core is on 😉

[sonic kiln]

Oh oops. I don’t remember if it’s on or not when I took those pics. Lol

[wanton sun]

it was not on your pictures above

i think the core outperforms on all but the first entry

[sonic kiln]

Let me try when I get home later.

Data cache stays in the FPGA right?

[sonic kiln]

Very cool

[wanton sun]

that the first number is lower is most likely because the core currently forces a CPU waitstate after every read

usually it should only add a waitstate when the next command is using the value fetched from the read, but i didn't implement this logic yet

[lilac scroll]

We’re flush with cache

[wanton sun]

in real life application this will often be the case, because, well you don'T read values if you will not use them. But in a benchmark you read stuff without using it

[visual forge]

Ǫᵫ₷† Ծҷ is the main reason for all of this

[devout leaf]

I want to test more Waverace out

Everything ran great but Duck Pond would freeze

[wanton sun]

waverace crashes for me if i don't go with cache delay > 10

[sonic kiln]

The shell script? Admittedly it was 98% written by ChatGPT 4

[remote hatch]

Does it hang up in any particular place or after a certain amount of time?

[orchid nimbus]

doesn't matter 🙂

[sonic kiln]

(I just hate writing bash lol)

[cerulean elk]

not that it matters because oh well but I will say while Cubivore refuses to start because of a pak not present issue in the N64 leaked version....the Cubivore theme sounds 10/10 perfect and I will fight anyone who doesn't think thats the best music on the Nintendo 64

[wanton sun]

random. first the music goes bad, then it crashes. Behaves the same as mario64 in the bob omb level. I bet it's the same rsp microcode 🙂

[native mesa]

Better than Bomberman 64?

[cerulean elk]

maybe one of the best pieces of video game music ever written IMO

[remote hatch]

Ok, I tested Wave Race with cache but without delay and it works ok

[wanton sun]

well it's random. One time it crashes right on the title screen, one time i got 6 races finished with cache

[cerulean elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR3BsEonQM8&list=PL07ECDDB70142A0F7&index=9

[orchid nimbus]

Quantum computer 😛

[remote hatch]

Ok understood 🙂

[wanton sun]

in bob omb it's kind of reproducible: if you go in bob omb and don't move, the game will hang a short time after mario goes sleeping, both with and without cache

there are some games that hang instantly on a rsp crash, e.g. majoras mask. I hope when fixing these, the random crashes will also be gone, but we have to see

first is more rdp work

[orchid nimbus]

what does it mean when you select 'delay 10' is that nano seconds or CPU cycles?

[wanton sun]

cpu cycles

with delay 10, a read value fetched from datacache will be delivered 10 cycles later instead of instantly

the idea is to test if the datacache is the issue for a crash or the increased cpu speed, so you can bring it down to original speed with cache on

[modern sleet]

Out of curiousity, i'm gong to play around with the video clock timing and swap out the pll2 values with that for the n64's VI and re-adjust the timing to match.

[wanton sun]

this will cause serious issues

the logic is not made to work with async clocks

like with the psx core, i will go with synchronous (to system/cpu clock) video clock first, to be able to debug better, then later on add async video out with the real clock

you can test, but if you don't add clock domain crossing, you will get random issues

sorry that it's not ready for that yet 😦

[modern sleet]

no need to be sorry!, its more for a bit of learning on my side

[brisk drum]

Awww man can’t wait for some sweet sweet crt support

[desert crow]

the debug version of Majora gives a register print out and stack trace after it crashes. not sure if that will help any

[sly wasp]

That is some awesome music but cough dire dire docks: https://youtu.be/Zqa2mgjbOIM

[cerulean elk]

the Cubivore soundtrack is just 100% a banger no matter the track

and yes I might actually say better than Bomberman Hero

[chrome quest]

Reading up on old posts, I guess the timing for PAL (with or without CRT use?) is quiet a big requirement for the core?
Hopefully will all fit in the end

[cerulean elk]

BUT...since Cubivore technically never release for the 64...the Bomberman Hero soundtrack is the best soundtrack out of Nintendo 64 GAMES

lol

[daring meteor]

Worst case, there's PAL N64 core

[mortal apex]

I'm saddened to report that I got a bit further than that. It crashes when starting a new game, but I was able to navigate in the main menu. Sometimes the ancient art of mashing gives, sometimes it takes 😄

[sly wasp]

gamecube core wen?

[cerulean elk]

I sold my US Cubivore a few years ago during the pandemic, cashed in and purchased a complete japanese version for $10. No regrets

game is better with no text...you can make it up in your head

[sly wasp]

yeah with such a good soundtrack and playability I can see how that would work

[cerulean elk]

occasionally I do dump off a rare expensive US version of something that doesn't really need language and Ill take that money and buy like 50 japanese games...expand with a zero dollar investment