Nintendo 64

[twin barn]

kinda reminds me of that lol

[manic basin]

Very much so. I hate telecom. So much. Not because of the tech. The tech is neat. But the companies are all ancient beasts who can't change.

[twin barn]

comcast spent millions lobbying and advertising against municipal fiber in my city of just over 100,000 people. it didn't work, couldn't be happier to be away from the for-profit ISPs now lol

[manic basin]

I did a Comcast project back in 2018...those asshats REQUIRED us to be on a 4 hour long meeting EVERY day at 5am our time where their PMs just said the same 3 things over and over. It was excruciating.

Made that for our team after we'd finished the project. If you know anything about Connectwise, there was integration with them and Comcast literally asked us if we needed their FAX LIBRARIES for ingestion.

N64 core is already more powerful than their servers, I swear.

[brisk drum]

Cumcast

I got fiber optic cables dawg

[manic basin]

I'm in the middle of nowhere. My max up is 20mbps. 😦 But some RICHY riches just moved in up the hill from me, so my hope is they pay for fiber runs up to their place and then we can all get it.

[chrome quest]

Where in the world is that? With Fibre in UK mine is 150Mbps down, 30Mbps up. 20 without fibre seems downright blisteringly fast to me 🤣

[eternal island]

uh...

[native mesa]

Yeah I get gigabit up and down

[chrome quest]

Oh well, I guess I can't miss what I don't get 😄

[native mesa]

80 a month

[eternal island]

its super cheap here for insanely fast internet

[bronze tree]

I'm not going to complain about 1 gigabit up/down for 38 euro then 🙂

[native mesa]

3 gigabit up and down seems overkill unless you're running a web server or somerhing

[eternal island]

it is, but you can often get a deal even cheaper than that

80-90 for it

may as well

fiber was a thing here i think years and years and years before it was in most places. eastern canada

so now its dirt cheap

we need the fast internet, because there is nothing else interesting that goes on around here

👍

[thick terrace]

hey all. anything happening?

[daring meteor]

Stable datacache soon™

[last scarab]

lmao MSN explorer. Did that come out before AOL? Remember Netzero and Netscape? My dad subscribed to netzero for a couple of years, then we moved to Cox commuications when they released a beta version of their cable service and modem. I think it was something around 1MB/s? We paid $100 a month for that speed.

[inner bronze]

We can run ao486 on 90MHz so gosh darn N64 shouldnt have weird timing glitches on a timing verified build.

[last scarab]

it was a mind blowing moment when mom picked up the phone and I still had internet connected. Usually whenver my mom answered the phone, I get kicked out of the dialup connection when watching flash videos 🙂

[atomic stratus]

Ah snap, I wonder if that could be what’s causing mine to just reset completely on occasion 🤔 …I cleaned out my expansion pack slot and pins too as well as the cart slot

[eternal island]

ao486 is a core i haven't tried but have wanted to try for a while. i havent gotten around to tossing in a bigger micro sd card in the mister yet

wanted to for uncompressed ps1 games

and ao486

[chilly ember]

I tried it ao486 core a few times, it's pretty great but I have a 486 pc with a intel dx2 that runs slightly better so that gets more use

[weary palm]

It's a bit of a pain to set up, just like a real DOS PC. 😅

[chilly ember]

It's little more convenient than a real dos pc but yea still bit of a pain

[manic basin]

AOL was first for sure. MSN was later, but was always chasing AOL. Which was a losing move.

Remember winks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqGJUKaaLU4

[weary palm]

You unlocked a core memory.

[last scarab]

holy smokes this is gold

[chilly ember]

nudge

Spamming the winks to someone with a slow pc back in day would get people so mad

[twin barn]

it's not that simple. ao486 does fail to meet timing requirements a lot of the time in compilation and there are quite a few bugs in it still

[hearty python]

Try the 300 games image. RTR all right installed 😁

[topaz otter]

486 is the only computer i dont have

But realistically you can slow down a pentium to 486 speed

And anything slower than that i have an ibm 5160

[twin barn]

anyways, 486 discussion can head here please --> https://discord.com/channels/647909397477195803/1047332497492553799

[topaz otter]

Will do

[native mesa]

member the 90s?

i member

[hearty python]

Not playable, Intro goes from 60 to 10 fps, game 2-3 fps… 😂

[twin barn]

soon

[native mesa]

he knows too ,much

[hearty python]

Body Harvest with cache

Interesting why is this so slow.

[chilly ember]

Nightmare creatures gets in game too with data cache but again single digit frame rates

[hearty python]

Crazy cause better looking games runs already faster.

[native mesa]

Pull up the error code and see what it's reporting

[hearty python]

E8c00

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/

there is a decoder at the bottom of the page

[hearty python]

Don’t work for me, tried 2 browsers.

[orchid nimbus]

which ones?

[vagrant ivy]

works in Firefox

[hearty python]

Edge and opera

[last scarab]

MSN explorer and Netscape 😂

[hearty python]

Retro too

[orchid nimbus]

sorry I don't do edge or that other outdated browser

only relevant ones

[hearty oar]

You’d think if it worked in one chromium it’d work in them all…

[orchid nimbus]

I don't do anything strange

[hollow orbit]

Mosaic and Lynx

[orchid nimbus]

the methods I'm using having been in the browsers since 1999

[hearty python]

Edge use chrome engine 😂

[weary palm]

Edge works fine for me.

[orchid nimbus]

yeah but it's done by microsuckt

[hearty python]

Either can’t download database, but script 😂

[orchid nimbus]

right click save as

and if that doesn't work get a less restrictive OS

[hearty python]

There is no real link

[orchid nimbus]

Debian 6.1.38-4 (2023-08-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux

it's a damned html <a href="url_here">text</a>

[weary palm]

Run Debian in WSL 😉

[orchid nimbus]

why the absolute @#$@#$ would I do that?

[weary palm]

Because Windows is the best, everyone knows that

[hearty python]

Update Skript is fine, perhaps check it

[orchid nimbus]

check what?

there is nothing to check

it's on the server

the link to it works

[hearty python]

Strange that update has a link I can save as, but database not.

[orchid nimbus]

not my problem that you use a restrictive OS

[hearty python]

Don’t worry I don’t need it really

[orchid nimbus]

when wget/curl can download it then why not browser

do they seriously think that all windows users are idiots?

[hearty python]

But with 90% market share is hard to ignore Windows users 😂

[orchid nimbus]

not for me - not my problem

[weary palm]

Probably something weird with the response header.

[hearty python]

Ok, senseless links then. 😂

[chilly ember]

The only browser I use is Netscape

Jokes

[hearty python]

Forget what I wrote and be happy.

[orchid nimbus]

if user agent like '%windows%' redirect to www.debian.org

"we at microsoft do not think anyone should be reading a TXT document - we cannot embed our watermarks or tracking into these documents and therefore have found them unwanted in this day and age"

I rather run a chinese backdoored system before I run M$ stuff

brb updating vscode

[native mesa]

edge chromium is pretty standard for enterprise

[hearty python]

For fun tried Firefox…

[raw oriole]

Lynx works fine

[little bane]

Try to clean the reset button by putting isopropyl alcohol and then keep pressing it, of course everything is off, let it dry and try, it could be the reset button

[orchid nimbus]

was curious - the n64 database was viewed/downloaded 2064 times

the last one by Lynx/2.8.9rel.1

😄

@raw oriole nice

[raw oriole]

It me!

I had to compile it and everything

[hearty python]

Is that including the downloads done by the script, or only manual downloads?

[orchid nimbus]

hey I'm looking at the apache log data and just did a grep

that's all

[nimble needle]

Hey @orchid nimbus I've had problems on a prod server related to allowed mimetypes preventing file downloads on a specific browser (cant remember which). Maybe some "secure" browser vendor configuration bullshit that needs an explicit setting in Apache. (Anyways just use Linux y'all)

[desert nest]

Yeah the database link doesn't work for me either, running the latest version of Chrome, Firefox, and Chromium Edge... don't think platform has anything to do with it. Viewing source the URL is highlighted and I'm able to initiate a download that way.

Actually I just realized what it is

It's the table, or at least where the table would be rendered

If I scroll enough to where the "here" link is above or below where the error code table is/would be, then I can interact with the text

Must be a "Windows problem" though 🙄 😂

[hearty python]

Work the green box for you with the error code to enter ?

[desert nest]

Link here, I can interact

Link behind here, I cannot interact

Y'all jumping to conclusions blaming an entire platform is just hilarious

[nimble needle]

Not blaming a platform, they were 2 serparate points

[zinc dew]

I understand some users have issues with the website but let’s keep the focus on the Nintendo 64 please.

[paper orchid]

oh yeah, it looks like when you type in a code and then click outside the box to make it disappear, something's covering it

[desert nest]

Yeah, that's probably for the best

[zinc dew]

I sincerely appreciate everyone understanding. Thank you very much!

[paper orchid]

@zinc dew just wants to keep us on topic, talking about Kwest 65

[hearty python]

Your are right, but he bets help and do links here in the thread, so it should be allowed that this helps is not working for everyone.

[nimble needle]

He's the light we all need!

[paper orchid]

If we're talking about Kwest 65 is it truly light, or is it secretly darkness

(i have a love for that game and all its flaws so i might be biased)

[zinc dew]

I think that’s a great point but reach out to him directly to see if he can help resolve the issue.

[cerulean elk]

its a turf war between N64 and Saturn. They keep swapping the top spot for views out of my last ten videos

[hearty python]

No more needed he has no interest do sort it out. But thanks

[cerulean elk]

editing N64 for tomorrow now. Battle for the ages

also I am soooo tired and my fingers are bleeding due to editing... @zinc dew keeps making me work. tell him to stop!

[zinc dew]

Back to the video editing mines! We need to hit 50K views or else it gets the hose again!

[cerulean elk]

to get 50K you gotta be Steam Deck

[zinc dew]

[cerulean elk]

trust me I wish MiSTer would do 50K

50K is reserved for dumps of rare games that didnt exist before hand and Steam Deck

or me cleaning a PCB lolol

[zinc dew]

Do a fake out video. Pretend you’re gonna cover Steam Deck and then switch to the N64 core on MiSTer

[hearty python]

Are there statistics, how many mister are out? Perhaps the download from the mister stable or some similar ?

[cerulean elk]

even that would just have duplications out the wazoo

[hearty python]

To get 50K views your need perhaps 500k Mister users

[zinc dew]

According to my data there is more than 1 user and less than 100 million

Somewhere in that range

[cerulean elk]

according to my data there is less than zero Robbys and More than .5

[hearty python]

Hard to say, i guess unter 100k worldwide

[zinc dew]

lol

[cerulean elk]

back on topic on scientific research...N64 core moves faster than a speeding Superman 64

[hearty python]

From my collection buddies, i am the only with an Mister. FPGAs are devils in colector eyes 😂

[native mesa]

Collectors are devil's in my eyes

[dreamy ridge]

anyone have an analogue pocket here and recommend it? thinking about trying to grab one

[cerulean elk]

lol I think my collector credentials cannot be disputed and I am all in on FPGA

they just dont want their collection devalued...where I do not give a FUCK

[zinc dew]

I’d also post that question in #fpga-platforms

[native mesa]

Basically worthless to me until they add openFPGA display modes. If you have a mister and don't feel the need to play things portably I'd skip it. Otherwise the hardware is very nice

[paper orchid]

@zinc dew If it helps regarding any questions about Vampier's FAQ, I sent Vampier a DM about the issue some people were having and how to fix it

[cerulean elk]

I just got my Pocket. Its fun, just a portable MiSTer minus the 3D goodness. Those shoulder buttons though...BLECH

[paper orchid]

(this is what i get for being a web dev lol)

[viscid nebula]

Yes

[native mesa]

Dpad isn't great either

[dreamy ridge]

thanks! i have a few long plane trips later this year and could also see myself lazily playing it in bed too

[cerulean elk]

honestly...Id get a Steam Deck

[native mesa]

I just want display modes! Why is it so much to ask

[viscid nebula]

Steam deck - 500-700$

Analog pocket: 230$

[native mesa]

There's a new glow in the dark pocket going on sale you could try that

[elfin relic]

yeah but you'll actually get a steam deck in a timely manner and it'll be better

[viscid nebula]

Analog pocket will entertain you for the rest of your life

Comfortably

[native mesa]

But it will never play N64

[chilly ember]

But I can play N64 on steam deck

[viscid nebula]

I’m playing games I could never play on mister

Just due to convenience

[cerulean elk]

$400 and shove an SD card in. Loading is fast

[hearty python]

Thought it is hacked already and open ?

[viscid nebula]

It is

[native mesa]

Take cover mods incoming !

[dreamy ridge]

hmm i didn't even think about steamdeck. i will look into it

[viscid nebula]

I wouldn’t do steamdeck if you’re a retro fan

[dreamy ridge]

didn't mean to derail the chat, you guys just have good opinions lol

[viscid nebula]

Analog pocket is perfection

[native mesa]

How dare you talk about the thing in the improper designated talking area

[viscid nebula]

Battery life is great too

[hearty oar]

I love the Pocket, but it's far from perfect

[cerulean elk]

I will bring it back...you can play the Nintendo 65's best game...BOMBERMAN HERO...on the Steam Deck and its great

[dreamy ridge]

maybe i'll get both lol

[elfin relic]

kando are you high

[viscid nebula]

I’m always high

[elfin relic]

that'd explain it

[viscid nebula]

🤣

[native mesa]

Youd have to be high to conjur up starfox ex

[viscid nebula]

What else do you want from the pocket

It’s no de10

[dreamy ridge]

can the steamdeck handle qwest sixty-four?

[elfin relic]

display modes on cores for one

[viscid nebula]

No absolutely not

[hearty oar]

screen filters for non-carts? A dpad that doesn't suck?

[hearty python]

I love there products and the design, but not the prices with taxes and waiting time. but raise is normal in these days unfortunaly

[elfin relic]

shoulders that don't suck worse than a gba sp's

[viscid nebula]

🤣

[elfin relic]

a cart slot that can actually hold GB/C carts firmly

[viscid nebula]

Wah wah wah

[dreamy ridge]

allegedly if you can get a glow in the dark pocket they're shipping two days later

[zinc dew]

Thank you very much!

[elfin relic]

if they're gonna make me use carts to get proper screen filters, it'd be nice if the cart slot wasn't garbage

[native mesa]

Triggers are nigh implayble with a cart inserted too

[hearty oar]

it's not really suitable for GBA, so the triggers aren't a huge deal for me

[paper orchid]

If people need a workaround for the time being: type in an error code to bring up the error display, then while the error is on display scroll the page until you can see the link you need to click (e.g. it's not covered by the error box). Close the error display, then the link will be in a space on the page that can be clicked

[native mesa]

Did Robert get some r&r today or is his head to the grindstone

[hearty python]

For most is easier to just load the script. The page is garbage.

[paper orchid]

I won't call the page garbage given that someone's volunteering their time and effort to maintain it, and that's all I'll say on the matter to keep things on-topic per @zinc dew

(off-topic, storm's hitting so i'm going to hunker down and play The Forbidden Game on the N64 since I'm in the mood for it now rofl)

[native mesa]

It's pretty unusable on mobile but yeah.

Play vanilla latte version or whatever it's cslled

Quest64.z64

[paper orchid]

I'm watching these letters pour in and I feel like a sniper dot is slowly migrating over my icon in the process lmao

[chilly ember]

French vanilla

[cerulean elk]

if he isnt asleep he should be. Its 12:45 in Germany. If I am awake past midnight I am out drinking

[cerulean elk]

Adventure 69?

[primal bolt]

Quest 128

[cerulean elk]

ahh so its twice as bad?

[primal bolt]

twice as good

[cerulean elk]

2x zero is still zero and 2x bad is twice as bad?

[primal bolt]

23 = 2/3 = .666

9/11/2001 = 9+11+2+0+0+1 = 23 = 2/3 = .666 = Quest 128

[native mesa]

Quest 32X

[primal bolt]

32X = 32+6 = 38 = 3+8 = 11

[cerulean elk]

69/2=34.5=one person does all the work while the other person kinda phones it in?

[primal bolt]

69 = 6/9 = .666

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew check my math!

[orchid nimbus]

Quest69

[primal bolt]

ya'll are Satanic

[dreamy ridge]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/XABTVorVODddu/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952xm9f1w1azdz93cjtswjva63xxo7ohohmh7ovkv6l&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[primal bolt]

Nintendo = 5

[native mesa]

ㄣ9ʇsǝnÒ

[primal bolt]

Nintendo 64 = 5+ 64 = 69 = 6/9 = .666

[ripe prism]

Take your 64, add 5 then subtract 5

[primal bolt]

Nintendo 64 = 666

[orchid nimbus]

111111111/9=?

[ripe prism]

7

[orchid nimbus]

Try again

[viral wadi]

2️⃣➗♾️🟰🧮

[primal bolt]

lets see who can figure out why/how Nintendo = 5

[deft tree]

Konami = 573

[primal bolt]

Konami is 9

Nintendo is 5

Sega is 5

[native mesa]

h9ʇsǝnῸ

[deft tree]

5 is pronounced as ko, 7 as na, and 3 as mi. 573 = KoNaMi.

[native mesa]

Is that real?

NeinAteNein

[primal bolt]

the formula is A= 1, B=2, etc.

So, Konami comes to 27 and 2+7 = 9

[paper orchid]

Are you a bemani nerd 👀

[deft tree]

I’ve done my time for sure

[primal bolt]

Nintendo comes to 41 and 4+1 = 5.... then you add 5 to 64 and get 69. Then you divid 6 by 9 and get .666

[deft tree]

Yeah, 573 is a long running ‘joke’ in Bemani games, konamis music stuff

[nimble needle]

Man I remember being impressed by a preview article of Quest √4096 in Computer & Video Games magazine back in 97/98. Can't wait to see if the game lives up to the hype!

[native mesa]

Konami squared is 328329 so if you keep wkrh that pattern the it's 32103211321232133214321532163217321832193220

[deft tree]

The hardware the OG DDRs ran on is system 573, there’s meme songs with 573 bpm, etc

[paper orchid]

Hence my pavlovian response to that number rofl

[native mesa]

You can't talk about system 573 in this channel . Only aleck64

[vague sun]

I’ll get things back on topic. Vivid dolls.

[deft tree]

Lol

[thick terrace]

I'm bored. Are there any shmups that work on the core?

[deft tree]

Lol

BangaiO is about the only shmup on the console

And that’s stretching the genre

[vague sun]

Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth works now

Viewpoint 2064 boots I think

[brisk drum]

#1046941029296779344 message

SEGA RULES!

[primal bolt]

this kid

[ocean lily]

eyy maybe my nso n64 controller will be delivered today

[primal bolt]

how much was it

[ocean lily]

too much, but not entirely stupid

[primal bolt]

100?

[ocean lily]

$80 plus free shipping

[primal bolt]

cool

[hearty oar]

huh, did they increase the price? Pretty sure I paid less than that in AUD, even including shipping

[primal bolt]

nintendo isnt making any more of those right?

[chilly ember]

Probably didn't buy from Nintendo

As far as I know they are still making them. I'd hope they are, they're still releasing N64 games for their service

[ocean lily]

yeah, they're still made, they just sell out to scalpers in 0.035 seconds every time there's more inventory

[primal bolt]

ah ok

[hearty oar]

they are still selling them new, at least on the Australian store, you can buy one right now

[primal bolt]

nice

[hearty oar]

and yeah it's only $70 AUD, I didn't totally misremember lol

[primal bolt]

i need to get something soon

[brisk drum]

For what you don’t even like 64

Why you posing bro ?

[primal bolt]

I was playing N64 before you were even born

[brisk drum]

Bro im older than you

[ocean lily]

lol, got the delivered message literally the same minute as that post

controller is smaller than I remember

[stone pilot]

Related: an unlucky hand in a card game - "eight - nine - three" - became "ya - ku - sa" - became "yakuza"

[deft tree]

Nice

[stone pilot]

partly a reminder they like gambling, partly an insult to the yakuza themselves saying they're as "good for nothing" as the unlucky hand itself!

[brisk drum]

Deep ..

[atomic stratus]

Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll definitely try that next chance I get!

[zinc dew]

I hope the storm isn’t bad!

[paper orchid]

Power blipped for a bit, rain was pretty heavy but it's subsiding for now thankfully

[sudden harness]

mind telling me what sort of splitter is this?

[paper orchid]

It's going to be on and off like this for a bit while hurricane weather comes through

[zinc dew]

It’s the SNAX adapter from MisterAddons - https://misteraddons.com/collections/parts/products/serial-native-accessory-converter-snac

Plugs into the special SNAC port of your IO board.

[sudden harness]

why does it have 2 hdmi ports?

[zinc dew]

The HDMI connection was repurposed as it featured enough pins for connecting original controllers.

[carmine kettle]

@zinc dew is snac codes are added the core?

mine n64 coming in this week

[zinc dew]

It is not public yet, no. But it’s working great.

[orchid nimbus]

Yes it has tentacles with suction cups

[sudden harness]

if only of this was a cheap way to get hdmi out in 2 devices

[zinc dew]

Once Robert is ready into integrate SNAC code to the N64 core it will be ready for him. SNAC isn’t the priority now however.

[deft tree]

I mean, HDMI splitters are a thing

[vapid hawk]

not sure what i just read, was half-life3 just confirmed in here?

[sudden harness]

btw am I the only one thinking or is the n64 basically on par with the saturn core in terms of progress

[devout leaf]

My jealously is at 9 lol

[sudden harness]

I mean like the first few days were looking like oh wow theres a long way to go, and now im like holy crap which one is going to come out first

[vapid hawk]

saturn is probably a harder console to make a core for overall, the documentations a lot worse

like afaik there isn't a really fantastic opensource saturn emulator

[zinc dew]

I apologize, I didn’t mean to do that.

[hearty oar]

I think mednafen is the best saturn emulator currently at least

[sudden harness]

also when we do end up getting n64 what are the chances of this impacting the software side of emulation

[vapid hawk]

also the saturn architecture is just a lot weirder all around, multiple memory buses and all sorts

[zinc dew]

We are awash with riches on the MiSTer. It is such an exciting time to be part of the Saturn and N64 development journey. We also have many new friends on this server to share that excitement with.

[native mesa]

Why would it?

[vapid hawk]

n64 having unified memory is really convenient

[sudden harness]

I mean like not to discredit project 64, but plugins are kinda outdated

[ocean lily]

Is there a core menu button/combo with this? I usually use the home button for that, but it seems to do nothing

[zinc dew]

It’s possible. MiSTer development has benefited greatly from MAME and FPGA core implementation has also surfaced hardware quirks that MAME has integrated as well.

[hearty oar]

I think ultra fp64 documentation was made available, which is most likely being taken advantage of by emulators like ares already

[sudden harness]

I mean it only makes sense, not everyone is going to realistically invest on a mister, and this Mars FPGA project I hear some things about seems like its gonna be stupid expensive for a lot of people.

[hearty oar]

I know there is a bit of a tendency to be a little bit dismissive of the efforts of software n64 emulation here, but they are actually in quite a good place place right now

[zinc dew]

I believe Robert was able to bring some lessons he learned implementing PS1 over to the DuckStation team?

[native mesa]

The question is would it impact software emulation

[zinc dew]

MiSTer is standing on the backs of giants, none of this would be possible without software emulation

[carmine kettle]

well atleast ill get the snax adapter this week and leave it there

[sudden harness]

I mean I would hope the mister n64 core would impact software cause at least the saturn has cycle accurate emulators on PC

well there is cen64 but that one seems to cost an arm and a leg

[hearty oar]

like I said before, software emulators already have access to all the research done for ultra fp64, which you can find here https://n64brew.dev/wiki/Main_Page

they are becoming very accurate now

[sudden harness]

what sort of PC specs would someone need for this sort of stuff

[hearty oar]

a vulkan capable GPU at the very least to run parallel RDP

not sure what sort of CPU requirements, ie how something like ares or mupen64-plus might run on a pi

that is of course part of the excitement of MiSTer cores, you can get very accurate emulation on relatively inexpensive and low power hardware by comparison

[primal bolt]

nWo is 4 Life but MiSTer is 4ever, meng

[devout leaf]

I was joking. Sorry about that.

[zinc dew]

Damnit I’ve been out nice’d! What are you Canadian??

[devout leaf]

And I clean up my gifs

[cerulean elk]

I lived in Canada. I am not nice (to you)

just finishing up N64 for tomorrow...after doing Saturn earlier today then Thursday news. My eyes bleed MiSTer

[primal bolt]

Ohhhh Canada.... for spacious skies.... for amber waves of grain. For purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain

[plush summit]

Come for the wild fires 😎

[cerulean elk]

stay for the poutine

[primal bolt]

no

[carmine kettle]

i know its early for the core, does @wanton sun going to implement anti-aliasing, when this core is rdy to be release?

[cerulean elk]

way too early to know anything

[orchid nimbus]

@carmine kettle why don’t you chill for a bit

[versed cairn]

here in canada all the fast food resteraunts have horrible poutines. it's something

[orchid nimbus]

I feel your anxiety here lol

[plush summit]

It's already implemented, Video Processing > Blur 50%

[carmine kettle]

i I'm chill is just a question

there no anxiety if it come it come if not oh well

[ripe prism]

I’m happy as long as the core permanently removes Mario’s face

Smug fuck deserves it

[native mesa]

Oh, code can you C, by the RAM’s early byte,
What so proudly we hailed at the website’s fast streaming?
Whose broad bits and Wi-Fi through the perilous byte,
O’er the hard drives we cached were so cryptically gleaming?
And the socket’s red glare, the algorithms in the air,
Gave apps through the night that our data was still there,
Oh, say does your smartphone yet scan the QR code?

[cerulean elk]

and rendering...thats a full eight hour MiSTer day

[nimble needle]

Did anyone know that the map of Quest 8^2 is actually based off of county Clare and a small slice of Galway in Ireland? I can't unsee it now.

[cerulean elk]

Poor country being defamed that way

[nimble needle]

We had 800 years if it. Nah a bother

[native mesa]

Looks like every other fantasy map I've ever seen

[nimble needle]

Couldve picked a more accurate map 🤭

Wikipedia says its based off of Ireland too

[cerulean elk]

Based off the map of Ireland, plays like Nutley, New Jersey

[native mesa]

Isn't middle earth also that

And also Westeros

[dreamy ridge]

Furio Giunta from the Sopranos lived in Nutley

[primal bolt]

middle earth is inner earth/hollow earth

[maiden wyvern]

in 2021, 30% of people had a digital board and 77% had an analog board

[viscid nebula]

there you go

107% of people have a board

[velvet nexus]

alt boards?

[maiden wyvern]

i have both, i am the 107%

[viscid nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetic-creepy-sad-gif-18170286

[native mesa]

Oh alt boards

[viscid nebula]

just use both boards at the same time

[native mesa]

What about my ironclad ad jammix

[thorny marten]

I use the ironclad

[orchid nimbus]

I should quit before I get addicted

[deft tree]

https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/card-nightmare.jpg?fit=1000%2C563&ssl=1

You won!

[orchid nimbus]

lol

noclip in doom

[hearty oar]

I love to just stop clearing render targets to see what happens - you can get some pretty cool and exciting results in modern games where you have a pile off offscreen targets responsible for various lighting effects

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxNGH5yapP8

[torpid hornet]

got the core running and booted starfox out of curiosity and was pretty amazed that it just worked, the speed at which this core is being fleshed out is insane

[viscid nebula]

right?!

I wasn't expecting anything to be working this fast

[frail jolt]

Any word on snac and the n64...or....

Like I'm ok going subzero accessory or whatever the new misteraddon is..
But...
Just wondering

[cerulean elk]

That might be better than the real thing

[chilly ember]

All i know is that it's going well but not released to public yet. An original n64 controller in perfect condition with a perfect joystick is such a unicorn these days and repairing them isn't a simple process. I have three oem controllers that don't have any drift but that joystick is so fragile. So i haven't paid alot of attention to it as i'd rather get a nso n64 controller and be done with it or live with the 8bitdo conversion kit when i get it

All it takes is a couple games of mario party 1 on an original oem n64 controller and that stick is fucked

[orchid nimbus]

damn - people have a core that is WIP and they all want a snac

https://tenor.com/view/snack-attack-cheese-snack-omg-snack-outbreak-chris-timmons-gif-13866116

[cerulean elk]

Nice

[orchid nimbus]

veruca salt

[deft tree]

Veruca Salty they don’t have n64 SNAC yet

Smash doesn’t work yet anyways

[maiden wyvern]

4p mario kart looked good on porkchop's setup

[chilly ember]

Everyone wants that golden turd of a joystick

It's a great joystick don't get me wrong

[deft tree]

I’m gonna be doing the 2 and 2 route most likely, 2x SNAX 2x reflex

[chilly ember]

4x joystick wear ftw

[teal citrus]

Does it come in barbecue flavor?

[chilly ember]

Just need to tell your friends to take it easy during the super smash and mario party sessions

Does anyone even have a steel stick and steel bowl?

https://steelsticks64.com/

[vapid hawk]

they've made very very few of them overall, most go to the smash/speedrunner scene

[chilly ember]

That's gross

[orchid nimbus]

flaming hot / bbq and cheese onion

[vapid hawk]

just clean and grease your existing sticks, replace parts from kitch-bent if they're super worn out

[chilly ember]

I don't wanna replace my parts in the stick after every mario party game :p

Bad enough we need to use the glove to prevent blisters

[vapid hawk]

just dont play that one mario party game with the stick spinning minigame

i think they took it out after #1

[teal citrus]

I'm surprised there are no Mario Party games on the NSO service.

[chilly ember]

They don't want a barrage of warranty claims on controllers they can't keep in stock

They got it hard enough with the joycons

[teal citrus]

Understandable.

[chilly ember]

They know

[zinc dew]

Mario Party is on NSO

[vapid hawk]

jesus imagine what it must do to those shitty joycon sticks

[chilly ember]

That's a rich man's game

[languid dune]

Frame it!

[chilly ember]

It belongs in a museum

[hexed knot]

Not as crazy as beating banjo, but pokemon puzzle league is beatable.

[elfin relic]

did you try "normal" mode !

[hexed knot]

Also not sure why "normal" is in quotations

Probably because of how "normal" it is.

[elfin relic]

just havin' a "normal" one

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_iDxvODmLU

full race

[frail jolt]

I'm using every video made to convince a friend to get a mister

Everytime I said to get a mister....

"But can it do n64"

Now it can..and he's still a non beliver

[chilly ember]

Very impressive but you need to work on your drift skills

[frail jolt]

Mister is honestly something you have to try....

I had 3 friends asking me to build one for them...2 dropped out when I told them the price of entry tho lol

[chilly ember]

Excuses

But it's honestly a tough sell

[elfin relic]

not everyone can be saved

[frail jolt]

"Oh... errr.. im careful with my momey"... losers

[chilly ember]

"but i can do this on my computer!!"

[frail jolt]

"But I have a raspberry pi"

[chilly ember]

You can't save these people

[wanton sun]

not really, then i would also need things like output resolution, vsync adjust settings and other things, which likely even have more effects. In the end it should work with all configurations, no matter what tiny difference it has on the ddr3 usage/delay

[wanton sun]

should be, yes

[chilly ember]

My nephews love goldeneye on a n64 stretched to widescreen over coaxial. and when that runs, I'm bringing the mister

[frail jolt]

Unky insane...buy us a mister

Lol if someone said thst to me...I'd jump to my friends excuaes...."uou already have a raspberry pi"

[chilly ember]

My siblings are not smart with tech lol

[frail jolt]

I hibestly feel the mister is easier to use than an emulator or raspberry pi

Been there..done them all....the mister is like apple... "it just works"

I mean..especially with everything automated

[wanton sun]

i have no idea why AA off should boost framerates. The AA information is stored in the extra bits. E.g. in 5/5/5 color mode one pixel write is 18bit, 15bit color and 3 bit for coverage information used for AA. Texture filtering is the same: the texture mem can output 4 texels per clock without extra cost. So for the core i don't see any reason why any of these would cost performance. Maybe you have more insights what exactly this turns off

[manic basin]

I forgot to reply, but it doesn't matter anyway. All of mine are C1 rev so that's definitely nothing to do with the differences between them. Thanks for responding!

[chilly ember]

It might not have any benefits on mister but real hardware under the right circumstances but real hardware it has a slight difference, it's only a frame or two but when the game maxes out at 20 fps, you can see it if you have a keen eye

[wanton sun]

the core just isn't stable yet. There are bugs...random bugs actually due to the nature of us using the ddr3 with unreliable latency and not having 100% reproducible situations

for some reason the cache triggers more of them, but i already made a testcore that can slow down the DDR3 and that also hits new bugs even with cache off....so we have to live with it being unstable until the bugs are fixed

[chilly ember]

We can live with that

[orchid nimbus]

same

I've been playing a full race of MK64 and SF64 1st stage

other than weird popping sounds it was pretty stable - had 1 crash (with MikeS' build)

[wanton sun]

it was too good to be true that so many games already run relativly well in the last 2 weeks, we maybe got very optimistic

[chilly ember]

Testing is more fun than playing games correctly accurate for some people , its all part of the process

Lots of progression in such a short time and it's hard to see things possibly get worse but this is part of the process

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun you can't always have sunshine 🙂

[hexed knot]

Progress for stuff like this is never linear or exponential (though the last week would disagree), it's spikes and plateaus.

[wanton sun]

so i will add the cache today as optional feature and add more debug stuff, then leave that topic for a while and continue on the rdp work. Then later down the road fix more bugs and i wouldn't be surprised if making things more stable will also make it more stable with cache. And if not, i can still debug the cache but with a much more stable core where it makes more sense

[orchid nimbus]

more debug stuff 🙂 sweet

[wanton sun]

you will have to extend the error list 😅

[orchid nimbus]

yeah not a problem

easy done

[wanton sun]

e.g. i have FIFOs in the system where i currently don't check if they overflow. They SHOULD not, but i want to be sure

so more cryptic error texts 🙂

[chilly ember]

Yay!

[orchid nimbus]

how many bytes are you adding? for the error stuff

[wanton sun]

4 or 8 bits i guess, need to see, will go through to code and look for potential issues

[chilly ember]

Rain or shine, we'll always be here testing

[orchid nimbus]

Yup - I got so many requests for the core that was pulled

Even then people want to see what’s new

To me that’s insane

Said the guy who tested it too lol

[chilly ember]

I missed downloading the uploaded built so i just built it myself

Insane

[low tiger]

What’s your balance?

[orchid nimbus]

$0 studied in Europe 😉

[chilly ember]

No one wants to talk about their debt lol

[hearty oar]

Australia sits right in the middle, where it's not free, but the loans aren't that bad - or at least they weren't when I studied, it looks like we are trying our hardest to copy the American system though...

[chilly ember]

https://youtu.be/LasrD6SZkZk?si=oFoIu-FJ9aY7m926

Fyi I'm canadian and its not much better

But how bout those 64 bits

Saturn is only 32

Sad the planet saturn only got 32 bits but earth got 64

[orchid nimbus]

SMW got 16

[chilly ember]

I'd hate to live there

[orchid nimbus]

i don't mind the US - it's a funny place

the weather is nicer at least

[chilly ember]

It's also 64 bit

Automatic win

[orchid nimbus]

California is 66.7bit

it's 60hz

[chilly ember]

60 hurts

[orchid nimbus]

people act a bit weird due to my accent

[elfin relic]

60 hurts, but 50 hurts more ;_;

[orchid nimbus]

50hz is 220v and 60hz is 110v

[hearty oar]

listen here pal...

[elfin relic]

I have the worst of both worlds

50hz 100v

[chilly ember]

It's all dependent on if you're grounded or not

[orchid nimbus]

we are the resistance

[elfin relic]

I'm trying to remain neutral here

[compact lark]

we got 60hz 220v

[orchid nimbus]

you guys are weird

[elfin relic]

sounds pretty wired to me

[orchid nimbus]

oooohm

[quaint rune]

Watts going on here

[orchid nimbus]

someone is AMP-ed up

[vapid ember]

Funny how this gets released, Not even to the Patron supporters. The latest is 4 days old

[chilly ember]

That's a sign of integrity

i'll always be offering the ways of building your own build from source, it's not hard but that's besides the point. The code is out there for free whether you're a supporter or not, supporter or not. This is the way

I support

[quaint rune]

I shall call you, good friend!

[chilly ember]

I don't expect a long winded article explaining the intricacies when the build is only 3 days apart

Besides, Robert deleted the build after he determined it was too unstable. releasing such a build to paid subscribers would be a nightmare

I still love the build but too many people who don't follow the discord would be very confused that their games are crashing when they didn't before

[chilly ember]

soo I wouldn't be too upset about it

[weary palm]

Oh no... Four whole days old?

[chilly ember]

That's 96 hours

Insects breed and die within that time frame

[vapid ember]

Thanks for all the support as always, full of trolls, Dev make 2 a day and I was just looking to see the progress, sorry for being excited.

[chilly ember]

Don't expect consistent progress

Robert is just one human, he can take a week off and no one should care

[lilac scroll]

We got spoiled

[chilly ember]

Robert has done alot of excellent work in the last 8 months, I can only wish i had one eighth the level of dedication he has

[lilac scroll]

It’s crazy to think the tweet that started this sub channel is only from April

[chilly ember]

Too much too fast, they expect consistent progress.

People

Don't do that

[vapid ember]

I wasn''t expecting consistent progress just making a comment about how they get

released.

[chilly ember]

It was reasonable tho. Don't expect to wait long for the next release

[weak sierra]

Tried Paperboy 64 (USA Version) out and that works quite well, weird game but playable.

[dense chasm]

Final core will only be compatible with Superman 64

[chilly ember]

The Super 64 core

[odd vector]

ultra!

[inner bronze]

The last build got pulled for being weirdly bugged within an hour or so, so not sure what youre upset about

[chilly ember]

chat GPT poem about the N64

[inner bronze]

Also I was wondering. How is refresh time for the DDR3 handled by the FPGA design and its impact on latency?

[weary palm]

No, you're being impatient.

Good things takes time. He will have a release on Wednesday.

[vapid ember]

I wasn't asking for a new version, just mentioning, he's releases different than other code devs, I get he's different. Why drama.

[weary palm]

No drama. Just telling you to be patient.

[inner bronze]

Yes very "funny"

[weary palm]

I'm a Patreon myself, I don't expect any special treatment. That's not why I'm donating. 🙂

[silver galleon]

Just curious, what kind of accent do you have?

[weary palm]

Probably Transylvanian

[odd vector]

i suppose flemish

[chilly ember]

"i'm going to suck your bloooooood"

[worldly quartz]

Aww, awbacon could have made 3 videos with that build

[inner bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/okily-dokily-ned-flanders-simpsons-okay-gif-13073246

Flemish sound like Flanders obviously

[weary palm]

Perhaps people in 100 years will be able to experience the Nintendo 64 thanks to this work. Just a thought. 🙂

[chilly ember]

Retro hardware

retro de10 nano 2023 first fpga n64 emulator core emulator board VERY RARE!!!

[inner bronze]

But in a 100 years my float TV needs at least a Laser7 input. Where am I gonna find something as ancient as HDMI.

[weary palm]

Is that a South Park reference?

[inner bronze]

Maybe

[thick terrace]

same reto stores we get ancient crap now

[worldly quartz]

imagine, people will be like HDMI 2.0, that's ancient lol

[chilly ember]

wtf is hdmi snac adatper

what's hdmi

[carmine kettle]

Idk

[wanton sun]

Some people on patreon are less into testing unstable builds than people here in the channel are. You can't imagine how many messages i get on patreon like "game xy doesn't run but i have seen it in a video". That's why decided to only place "kind of" stable builds with a solid progress on Patreon. I just hope people don't mind and are fine with a new build every 1-2 weeks. At least i don't feel like i only published few things early in the development 🙂

[weary palm]

@inner bronze I knew I'd heard that line before. 😂

[orchid nimbus]

Evil

[weary palm]

Are you Dutch?

[chilly ember]

He's from holland, isn't that wierd?

[plucky nymph]

Just ignore those comments:) we should rename this channel to “Robert’s Testing Brigade”. I can make T-shirts.

[weary palm]

Netherlands, what a crazy place.

[hollow rune]

Will there be tiny Panda sizes?

[quasi storm]

I'll buy one. XL

(Edit)

Actually, make it 2XL. Might shrink in the wash...

[weary palm]

I'll take one too. XL is fine.

[native mesa]

I don't have any more insight other than it's true for real hardware https://youtu.be/-Nef6A2C3kI?feature=shared I just assumed it cut back on extra processing like on PC graphics.

[quasi storm]

I still remember the early days of the PSX core. Even there, we were constantly blown away by the progress! If the naysayers had only been there, I'm willing to bet they would be a lot less vocal. It isn't the destination, but the journey.

[hollow rune]

I know for me this is the case. I didn't expect when getting a MiSTer that there would be this much of a kind of community around the development of cores. It is unique and fun.

[lament escarp]

It really is. Also there is talking bacon, sentient pandas, html savvy vampires and a brian64 crazed mod named robby. How could this get better?

[quasi storm]

Heh. We actually have our very own Rob64!

[bronze tree]

When I got the MiSTer I was dreaming there would a an SNES core one day and look where we are now 🙂

[quasi storm]

You must have gotten one right at the transition from Mist? That was well before my time with the device. Story time?

[bronze tree]

Well, I was interested in FPGAs in general and thought "it would be cool if you can emulate complete game console with an FPGA, probably doesn't exist, but maybe someone is working on it". Then I found MiST and while I was going through their forums I saw people talking about this new MiSTer project so I got that instead. Lucky timing.

and now just 2 developers gave us SNES, GBA, PSX, N64 and Saturn 🙂

[manic basin]

He lahvs GHOOOOOLD.

[bronze tree]

@orchid nimbus is even from the craziest province: Brabant (watch "New Kids Turbo" if you want to know what it's all about)

[foggy stirrup]

Den Bosch !!!!

KUT!

[quaint rune]

The look of it, the shmell of it, THE TEXTHURE

[bronze tree]

@foggy stirrup bende gij d'r ook zo ene?

[quasi storm]

As someone who grew up with the N64, can I just say what a strange time it was during the formative years of 3D?

There really was no such thing as SMOOTH 3D, for the most part. It was just, like, "Hey, it's just DOING it. That's cool."

[bronze tree]

(TILBURUUUG!)

[foggy stirrup]

Kun jij ook niks aan doen 😉

[bronze tree]

😉

[weary palm]

Quake (1996) was pretty smooth.

[quasi storm]

Everything is relative.

[weary palm]

If you had a Pentium with at least 16 MB RAM.

[quasi storm]

I was about to say, on my Pentium pro 166, it ran.

It wasn't perfect, but it RAN.

Then a long comes the 3D consoles in earnest (The big three, not all those other attempts 😆)

Particularly with the 64... Big, detailed Mario heads, whooshy camera sweeps, etc. It's like, "Hey, look how IMPRESSIVE this is.", And it was, dude...

But at the same time, there were also a lot of growing pains. Single digit framerate were common haha

[native mesa]

Well it wasn't a hardware issue as much as a software and dev tool one

The 60fps Mario 64 on real hardware is testament to that

[quasi storm]

I remember seeing the commercials for super smash bros. (You know the one...) And seeing the gameplay, and thinking it looked pretty cool. Then I rented it and was BLOWN AWAY that it ran at 60 FPS.

[quasi storm]

Right... At the risk of sounding unfair, I'll call that "Crappy software running on even crappier hardware"

[weary palm]

It wasn't that crap. 🙂

[quasi storm]

I haven't seen the 60 fps Mario 64, but I have seen that new Mario game someone is working on, doing things the original could only dream of.

[quasi storm]

Oh, c'mon now... You never ONCE sat and used windows 95 and thought to yourself, "Wow, this is CRAP."?

[weary palm]

Windows 95 was totally crap

Crashed all the time.

[quasi storm]

Plugging PS2 into a Pentium machine would make it freeze... Every time...

[weary palm]

I would rather lose a finger than go back to Windows 95 lol

[quasi storm]

And that's what the devs had to work with. In general I mean... I'm not implying devs only used win 95 software...

[hearty oar]

damn, I can't believe how well Turbochop is typing all that with only 9 fingers

[quasi storm]

Just to be clear, I'm not a dev...

Back in the days of windows 95, I was 6 🤣

But, getting back on topic... I remember playing games on the 64 and... I dunno... Even THEN I was scrutinizing...

"Why do their heads look like squares?"

"Why don't they have fingers?"

"How come you never hear them say anything?"

[hearty python]

Windows 95 was the beginning from plug and play on PCs. Was a wonderful time. It changed a lot.

[maiden wyvern]

i ran the n64 update script, and it seemed ok, then i ran update_all like it said, and i immediately lost video output completely

has that happened to anyone else?

[quasi storm]

Did you wipe out your MiSTer main, somehow?

I did that last night, accidentally. Luckily I was able to ftp into it and put it back.

[maiden wyvern]

i just ran the 2 scripts in a row didn't touch anything else

but i'll check if it's still there

[hearty python]

Do update all first.

[maiden wyvern]

the leds are happily pulsing away. i think main does this

[quasi storm]

...um... Is it.... You know... Plugged in?

[maiden wyvern]

it's definitely plugged in

i didn't touch it

i'll take a look at it a bit later

[quasi storm]

Also, do you by chance have any known-goods?

[maiden wyvern]

but just to report i followed exactly that the faq and script said, and this happened

[chilly ember]

does it have sd card?

[quasi storm]

Can you still ftp into it?

[maiden wyvern]

it still has an sd card. it everything worked perfectly until the second i tried to run update_all

[chilly ember]

update all? more like update fail

[maiden wyvern]

yes

[cloud peak]

Replace Main and menu.rbf

[maiden wyvern]

still not working

lmao

i'm suddenly worried

great

[wanton sun]

maybe to many tests killed the sdcard 🙈

[maiden wyvern]

hahaha

you might be right

i'll fish out another one

damn i just wanted to play mario kart

[inner bronze]

Die gekke brabanders toch...oh shit ik ben er ook een

houdoe

But yeah, South Park reference

[quasi storm]

Geez, don't say that... The idea of my SD card crapping out is too much to bear.

[maiden wyvern]

don't worry. i write to mine like crazy

[inner bronze]

Gah, I should add an SD extender to my ironclad. I can barely fit a finger there.

[trim seal]

I has a curiosity - for anyone who has built the current code - what sort of build times is everyone getting?

[native mesa]

I've been offloading games to NAS

[bronze tree]

I use a bank card to press it (regular MiSTer case though)

[inner bronze]

Ive had too many NFS and Samba issues to ever trust a network filesystem with my saves

[wanton sun]

i use a fork to get the sdcard out...

[inner bronze]

i have to insert mine around a corner and upside down where I cant see the slot

😄

[quasi storm]

I use another SD card...

[chilly ember]

I don't even use a case so i can use my finger

old school

[native zephyr]

do I have to install the n64 update script to get the latest build now?

[quasi storm]

No, but it helps.

Alternatively, you can grab the latest core from test builds.

[native zephyr]

right

because I thought there was a newer one than N64_20230826_2.rbf

but I didn't see it

[trim seal]

There was, but it got removed because it had inconsistent results across Misters.

[quasi storm]

It was pulled, due to it being a little buggier than Robert would have liked...

[native zephyr]

ok that explains it, thank you

[quasi storm]

That, too...

[mild ether]

Word of caution if you ever use your teeth to grab a micro SD card. Very easy to bite them in half.

[trim seal]

At least dip it in salt first....

[onyx minnow]

i just pop it out and it falls inside the case everytime, so i shake the case around untill it falls out

its like a minigame, i'm pretty good at it now

[deft tree]

Flip the mister upside down before you pop it out, problem solved

[maiden wyvern]

i can't flip it cause it's anchored down by 30 cables

[onyx minnow]

i'll give that a try, it's usually got wires coming out from all sides though 😛

[deft tree]

The other answer is just FTP/samba so you never have to take it out anyways lol

[onyx minnow]

true, i mostly would take it out to update mister main to unstable because that never seems to work when mister is running

i grabbed vampirs script though so wont have to take it out much anymore

[vapid moat]

Anythin' new

[weary palm]

I don't get why so many people take out their SD card to add files.

[trim seal]

I mean...I compiled the current code and have had flying dragon running on demo mode stable for about an hour now, but that's probably not useful information. Just doing it for fun.

[old vortex]

I just figured this out the other day. You can’t overwrite with FTP while it’s running, but you can delete/rename, so you just do that and then put the new Mister main in its place.

[remote hatch]

not everyone prefers easy ways 😛

[inner bronze]

My problem was more with what when the SD card wears and I have to get in there, lol

Its not in a friendly place with Ironclad. Should add an extender when I make my own ITX case

Thats still a project I wanted to work on

[limber willow]

Why ftp when you can scp?
Can also ssh in and change permissions, etc
scp and ssh come with windows 10

[inner bronze]

Yeah SCP/SSH >>>>>> FTP/Samba

Just fuck Samba with a barbed pole.

[limber willow]

Hate FTP/Samba, have to use them when dealing with OGXbox and PS2

[inner bronze]

Never mix Unix and Windows permission models

[hollow rune]

I use FileZilla, but dor the script do I just add it to a certain folder and it will update to the newest N64 build automatically

?

[inner bronze]

You need to run scripts, obviously

[limber willow]

can run the scripts via ssh

[fallen sparrow]

I use this, it works really well

LANMU Micro SD to SD Card Extension Cable,Micro SD Card Adapter Extender Male to Female Converter for Ender 3 Pro/Ender 3/Ender 3 V2/Ender 5/Monoprice Mini/Anet A8 3D Printer/Raspberry Pi (15cm) https://amzn.eu/d/hWwmsaz

[thick terrace]

I use windows 7

[deep ore]

which patch did ya use man? also which bios was that?

[thick terrace]

One of those sd card extenders came with my case, but it didn't work for me, so now I just filezilla stuff.

[inner bronze]

At least make sure you have Filezilla set to binary mode

FTP be crazy like that

[hearty oar]

cross-posting here in case anyone wants to try, linux kernel for MiSTer with improved NSO N64 controller support: #controllers message

[maiden wyvern]

great work mate

[hearty oar]

all I did was merge a patch lol

[maiden wyvern]

yep. hate doing that

[verbal pendant]

@maiden wyvern I had a similar problem a while ago, also after running update all IIRC. Black screen, lights were pulsing. I made a new install using MiSTer Fusion on a different SD card and then copied the files on it to my original card (left my original mister.ini files and other ini files that I edited). That fixed it.

[maiden wyvern]

you know what i did. i turned it off for 5 minutes

and now it works

my resolution is different but it works

[verbal pendant]

That is a bit scary

[maiden wyvern]

i don't know what happened

[verbal pendant]

Hope it will behave from now on then

[maiden wyvern]

it's been running fine all afternoon but i just hit the reset button again and it's broken again lmao

[verbal pendant]

That is really odd

I guess it couldn't hurt to copy over some newly installed files, but I don't know if that will help in this case. Is your power supply okay?

[limber willow]

I had an issue like that last year ^
Turned out my SD card was shredded

[maiden wyvern]

ahh

[verbal pendant]

Good point @limber willow

[maiden wyvern]

i'll try that first. that's 2 votes sd

and you know, it happened when i ran update_all, i bet it was doing a lot of file io at that point

[verbal pendant]

True

[wanton sun]

great, it works wonderful! (via USB now)

[hollow orbit]

About $20k but I’m most of the way through PSLF.

[silent marten]

Robert, what's on the testing menu for tonight?

[unique coral]

Well, it's free to study but you probably still need to take a student loan for all your living expenses like rent and food..

[lament escarp]

How do I install this? 😄

[hearty oar]

you just need to replace that zImage_dtb file in the linux directory on your SD card. If you are doing it via FTP or whatever then just rename the old one first, copy the new one and then cold reboot

[marble cargo]

I have an NSO N64 controller, and I can confirm it does recognize the controller without bluetooth.

[wanton sun]

yes, that's how i did it (via SMB), worked instantly

[marble cargo]

Looks like the file scrambled my inputs a bit, so I'll need to remap the buttons.

[remote hatch]

I bought this 😛

[onyx minnow]

Hmm i actually would FTP the new mister main to a new folder, login via ssh, delete the old one and the move "mv MiSTer" where the old one was. never seemed to work, mister wouldn't boot. I had to take the card out and copy over manually.

[old vortex]

Oh weird, not sure then.

[native mesa]

Is there a better way to network access files than cifs?

Seems like a pretty jank protocol

[lament escarp]

Can confirm this kernel update also works for the 8bitdo modkit, rumble is working in the psx core now. 👍👍

[hearty oar]

nice, thanks for trying it out

[cerulean elk]

I may get one until the NSO controller comes back in stock

[remote hatch]

I prefer this analog spacing, I play badly on the original controller

[lament escarp]

Can you test the range of the analog stick when you get it?

[remote hatch]

sure!

[hearty oar]

ooh, I like the blue one, matches, my original controller

[worn delta]

If there is a goal with error testing to make sure everything that is failing has an error code, let us know and after more error reporting in we could recheck the ones that didn't show an error code before and flag any that still don't show anything

[wanton sun]

for now the errors codes are not that helpful, as nearly every game shows up at least something

they will get more useful when things get more stable in some months

mostly some codes help me, e.g. some of the rdp errors indicate i could check in a specific situation

but it's not hard to trigger error flags currently, so i find them easy myself 🙂

[worn delta]

Makes sense. If there is any specific testing (especially drier non game playing stuff) then just let us know, there's people here keen to test and help out any way that's useful 🙂

[zinc dew]

I'm only here for Quest 64

[wanton sun]

there will be a point where every game that never gets more than a black screen will be interesting...but in the next weeks i will focus on the rdp again

not useful to check for games staying at black screen when the rendering doesn't work properly, haha

[wanton sun]

so did you already complete it? 😛

[zinc dew]

I'm waiting for the core to be completed, that game deserves the best and absolute best!

[wanton sun]

very true

[worn delta]

You would deserve some sort of award if you managed to complete Quest 64 in one sitting (without being able to save) on a WIP build. Maybe not a good award, but an award none the less

[hearty oar]

playing a quest-based game is its own reward

[cerulean elk]

We talking Bomberman Hero? 😂

[wanton sun]

the purple text background gives it the special touch

[cerulean elk]

I’d like to report a problem; Superman 64 is becoming more playable. That’s not a positive thing

[zinc dew]

help mods

[carmine kettle]

@hearty oar doesnt work

[maiden wyvern]

can i please report vampier who has broken my mister with his n64 updater in retaliation for a harmless castlevania meme

[wanton sun]

there is only one good game where you need to fly though rings on n64 and that is....not superman 🙂

[maiden wyvern]

something that had nothing to do whatsoever with me copying spyro to the sd card 900 times

[remote hatch]

starfox ? 😛

[zinc dew]

@maiden wyvern is your mister actually busted?

[wanton sun]

ok, two games

[maiden wyvern]

it is right now but probably not once i find an sd card in a draw

[zinc dew]

that means you have time to look at the notch!

[maiden wyvern]

oh i found one

bummer

[hearty oar]

the kernel image, or your controller?

[carmine kettle]

my controller using your kernal

[worn delta]

Any idea what might be causing Goldeneye not to boot yet? That one is black screen and no error code right now. TLB?

[lament escarp]

I had to re do the pairing, mapping in main and mapping in core.

[wanton sun]

goldeneye needs tlb, yes

[carmine kettle]

he said it only work for nso my is from 8bitdo

[worn delta]

Ocarina in the same boat in needing TLB?

Actually no, it has error code 8822

[carmine kettle]

usb or bluetooth?

[lament escarp]

Bluetooth, was 8bitdo modkit in switch mode.

[carmine kettle]

i tried over usb

[lament escarp]

Havent tried it like that, but iirc 8bitdo only advertises usb connection in dinput mode.

I think the rumble in the modkit working is a happy accident, as the modkit imitates an nso controller

[hearty oar]

it probably gives itself a different vendor ID in that mode, sadly I don't have one to try

[placid quiver]

Do I go modkit or brawler64; I've been waiting to see feedback on modkit and now they don't ship until 9/20

[carmine kettle]

what game u tried for rumble

[cerulean elk]

that mod kit is intriguing

[lament escarp]

I like the modkit, even more since it got rumble today. It feels oam, though some people complain about latency, which I'm not prone to notice @placid quiver

[lament escarp]

Medal of honor on psx core, just load the first level and fire a few rounds

[placid quiver]

I have an original with a good stick that I'm willing to donate to the cause

[lament escarp]

You don't need the stick necessarily, the hall effect stick you get for 10 bucks in top is nice. Though the range issue is still open, but I'd be surprised if that wouldn't be solved soon.

Dunno bout the brawler

[placid quiver]

I'm saying I have a good stick so I'm only getting the modkit with rumble not the hall stick

[hearty oar]

I think as long as the gate is the right shape any other issues should be surmountable

[trim seal]

I presume rumble isn't working yet for this core?

[hollow rune]

@worn delta should we all just focus on games that boot then for the next round and then just be very descriptive since the codes aren't super important?

[trim seal]

Nice to be able to use the additional buttons on the NSO controller, ta.

[hollow rune]

Also @cerulean elk and @fallen sparrow if I stream my testing it wouldn't step on you toes would it? I would just be trying to fill out the chart more.

[cerulean elk]

stomp away lol

the more the merrier

just make sure you show cleavage on stream...that helps @zinc dew on his channel

[worn delta]

Depends what Robert adds, no harm in rechecking ones that didn't boot before if something added may cause them to boot or more error codes are added (doesn't take long if the game doesn't boot). Good practice to jot down the final error code when testing for when they are more useful, or to see progress since last build and code

[fallen sparrow]

Go for it,
I look forward to watching, what's your channel?

[carmine kettle]

rumble doesnt work

[cerulean elk]

I heard next stream King Charles is going to guest star?

[fallen sparrow]

Nice, gotta love the sausage fingers

[cerulean elk]

I dont think he could hit one button at a time

its like he has bangers on his hands

or brats for us Chicago folks

[fallen sparrow]

Found you

[cerulean elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqrtoFWglMY

Chicago in a nutshell

[fallen sparrow]

😂

[cerulean elk]

nobody skip the Dennehy link. Its iconic. Must watch. I expect reactions!

[lament escarp]

Sorry to hear, worked for me.

[trim seal]

Yeah, I'm having trouble getting it working as well.

[cerulean elk]

when you schedule a stream lmk and I will tweet it

so long as you aren't also gonna talk about frogs being turned gay or stolen elections lolol

[remote hatch]

[cerulean elk]

the funniest thing is there was like a tiny kernel of truth in that apparently. Some scientific study verified some chemical was altering their genes 😆

[trim seal]

I'm with you so far...but how did the frogs steal the election?

[cerulean elk]

20 frogs in a large trenchcoat...they voted...and they did it like 30k times

[frail jolt]

Mail in votes

[cerulean elk]

its Bojack Horseman with Vincent Adultman except more frogs

[hearty oar]

But what about birds!?

[cerulean elk]

they arent real apparently

[lament escarp]

Birds aren't real!

[hollow rune]

No, my parents instead taught me to fight against white supremacy and the patriarchy, among other things.

[cerulean elk]

its a bird...its a plane....shit its Superman 64...everyone run and hide!

[lament escarp]

So... superman64 stole the election. Shoulda known!

[viscid nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/should-we-fight-the-power-toni-shalifoe-the-wilds-fight-the-man-resist-gif-19536541

[cerulean elk]

his uniform is blue and red...makes him a moderate?

[viscid nebula]

🤔

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-the-power-public-enemy-flavor-flav-bet-awards2020-song-gif-17829925

[viscid nebula]

[worn delta]

Is Superman64 really that bad? I've never played it

[carmine kettle]

we tried

[remote hatch]

it's good game

[cerulean elk]

please we all know the Mushroom Kingdom is a monarchy with one person controlling everything. Its a dictatorship with cake

[brisk drum]

Yeah Superman 64 is just misunderstood

[hollow rune]

The only thing I know about frogs is what I learned from the official Team Door Door movie, Jurassic Park

[brisk drum]

Life … will find a way?

[viscid nebula]

YOU WILL NOT SPEAK ILL OF THE PRINCESS

OFF WITH YOUR HEAD

[cerulean elk]

ask her about the Goomba wars

[hollow rune]

They change sex on a single sex environment

[cerulean elk]

napalm, mustard gas...the works

[brisk drum]

Which one ?

[remote hatch]

ehh haters gonna hate, superman is ok

[viscid nebula]

you better not sleep tonight, they are always watching social media

[hollow rune]

Or like they get different innards

[brisk drum]

GWII was the worst

[hollow rune]

It is super cool

[cerulean elk]

Goomba did nothing wrong. Poor dude...just trying to support a family on a meager soldiers salary

We all know Bowser pays minimum wage

[lament escarp]

So like 8bitdo modkits...

[hollow rune]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/frogs-reverse-sex-more-often-than-thought

[lament escarp]

Thats the boss of nintendo of America

[hollow rune]

It is not a conspiracy though. They're just frogs being frogs

[cerulean elk]

that's what they want you to think...next thing you know there's money missing off the dresser and your daughters knocked up

[lament escarp]

It wasn't me it was the frogs!

[viscid nebula]

[zinc dew]

my favorite frogs on the N64 are in Majora’s Mask

[orchid nimbus]

Ja

[cerulean elk]

Coffee time. Then I’ve gotta do tomorrows news voice over

Then I can take a break from MiSTer for a min and do all the non-MiSTer shit I have on my list 🤣

[viscid nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/believe-weatherman-gif-25738999

[zinc dew]

gif_police.gif

[remote hatch]

I thought the police are on vacation

[cerulean elk]

I’ve gotta do VO on Games to Play on Nintendo DS for Steam Deck, five videos left to edit on next years Wednesday retrospective, start more Steam Deck tutorials (vita and Wii U), come up with new ideas for Pocket videos, come up with new “evergreen” MiSTer vids…and get my hair cut

[remote hatch]

I wanted to upload 100 gifs in the shortest possible time 😛

[zinc dew]

I accidentally spammed #general-banter last night with some bot command lol

It wasn’t gifs though

[cerulean elk]

D**k pics again? We talked about that!

[frail jolt]

Yes.... people say ET was a bad game....they lie and have never played it.... I played it, I actually like it

I play superman64 as a kid...and I still wake up screaming "refund..get a refund.... Billy why did you buy this, get a refund!!!"

I was able to play and beat ET when I was 4 years old

[zinc dew]

The rings level isn’t even that bad

The next level is horrendous

[orchid nimbus]

when I was around the government gave me money for that

[frail jolt]

It's not bad cuz you can quickly play and replay....and kind of get it and can get through it...

But then you have another bs task....and then you have to learn that

Superman64 is like a really bad game of memorization with no payoff

[thorny marten]

To be fair superman64 didnt almost destroy the gaming market.

[frail jolt]

Et had little to nothing to do with that

[orchid nimbus]

hair-kut..... we even have a kut-club here

[frail jolt]

Atari has a stock pile of poorly developed games due to its low barrier to entry for games

So anyone who could make a 2600 bleep or boop put a game out

There was little to no way to review games

Or I should say no one was reviewing ga es

[weary palm]

Don't kut ma club kthxbai.

[frail jolt]

So it was game after game of garbage that lead to the downfall of gaming in the US

Not JUST ET.... ET just came put when consumers were already fed up

I still die on the hill that ET wasn't a bad game by any means...it was an adventure game before adventure games were really a thing...

Most atari games were really bad arcade ports...or original IP thar was too bad to really be an arcade game

[orchid nimbus]

does this mean the frequency of test versions will be reduced here?

[cerulean elk]

Lol wtf @zinc dew

[lament escarp]

St 64

[lament escarp]

So it's not just quest

[remote hatch]

use Wild West 6 4

🙂

[orchid nimbus]

@zinc dew sledgehammer approach?

[remote hatch]

Quest 6 4

[lament escarp]

It's est that triggers it

[elfin relic]

ernst64

[marble cargo]

Huh.

[cerulean elk]

Robby has gone wild with power

[elfin relic]

Qwest (the ol' telco) 64

[vagrant ivy]

quest 6 4

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE!!!

@zinc dew

[cerulean elk]

Robby killed gifs and memes. He really has become evil

[zinc dew]

bruh I’m getting brisket tacos hoo yah

[hot spoke]

Did anyone try the new NSO drivers yet?

[remote hatch]

unfortunately , but we have experienced a great injustice , @zinc dew as a mod now uses when he wants Quest 6 4 , we can only look and cry

[orchid nimbus]

quest-64

there

DONE

[frail jolt]

Let's take a vote....only if uou played and tried BOTH can you vote

Which was worse

SUPERMAN64
or
E.T.(ATARI)

I need to make sure im not crazy

[cerulean elk]

Superman

[frail jolt]

Lol

[viscid nebula]

whod you pay off to keep mod after that fiasco

[marble cargo]

Death Crimson

[frail jolt]

Most light gun games are hard to stomach...lol

That's why typing of the dead was so popular... cuz it got rid of the light gun

[cerulean elk]

It’s too funny to be bad

[zinc dew]

Quest 64, see it’s not blocked

[maiden wyvern]

what a blunder

[orchid nimbus]

rules for me but not for thee

[cerulean elk]

I just imagine you at a dinner party where everyone is talking about what’s going on in their lives and you say “I can say Q**** 64 on discord. So my year is shaping up nicely”

[zinc dew]

LMAO

[viscid nebula]

robby is such a power abuser

flaunts his power

[zinc dew]

quest 64 got banned cause I meme’d it too hard, then I got made a mod, and then cursed to be able to say the forbidden word

[frail jolt]

Thoughts on bad fur day?

[carmine kettle]

no meme pls\

[zinc dew]

lol

[frail jolt]

I tried to play it on my multicart a long time ago.... but it just kept freezing..so I gave up

[zinc dew]

I love Conker

it’s got flaws, yadda yadda, game is hilarious

[remote hatch]

if we don't get anything new to test soon this channel will turn into ONE BIG SPAM 😛

[frail jolt]

Alright cool.... what's a better game.. ET or Conker?

Lol

[remote hatch]

ET ofc

[marble cargo]

Conker's Bad Fur Day is fine. I think it mainly suffers from relying too much on shock humor, so on repeated playthroughs the flaws with the gameplay become more apparent.

[devout leaf]

I feel like it’s to late lol