Nintendo 64

[foggy stirrup]

What is the best way to hook up an OG controller to mister atm.(with snac not ready) i found this https://www.mayflash.com/product/n64_controller_adapter_mf103.html

[onyx minnow]

but yeah "playable" is in quotes, but it does mean you can get in game and play

[hearty python]

Is working @foggy stirrup

[stone estuary]

With the last update, is that what's shown on the latest VGE? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUMHrIkvcVA

[daring meteor]

Judging by the pic yes

[zealous obsidian]

Haven't tested it since it just came out but the Reflex Adapt by @graceful radish does support N64 OEM Controllers

I'm planning to get one and use Gamecube controllers instead

[thick terrace]

I just bought a usb n64 type controller on ebay for $14.

[sharp ermine]

@foggy stirrup has anyone lagtested that adapter?

[vapid moat]

What the heck, I thought @wanton sun was just joking

🌝

[vagrant ivy]

it rubs the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again

[trim seal]

Signs of life in Majora. Crazy.

[vapid moat]

OOT's still not booting

[trim seal]

Dat menu music. Joy

[safe robin]

Yesterday i thought i found a bug in Mario Kart 64 because the Music was gone out of a sudden. Turns out, in the Game the L Button can change the Music output, its intended 😄
"L Button While playing, use this to set the background music volume to On, Half or Off."

[vapid moat]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/044/506/standing_there_menacingly.jpg

[trim seal]

He can be more menacing

It is actually a tad unsettling.

[vapid moat]

Link judges you for trying to play Majora's Mask on non-Nintendo hardware

[trim seal]

The Phantom Zone

[oblique remnant]

it was intended 😄

[trim seal]

I forgot how good that Wave Race music is.

[safe robin]

Also interesting. In Mario Kart 64 it seems like 3 and 4 Player Mode will be without Music per limitations of the Game and Some Levels seem to have a Bug so that they play faster on 3 and 4 Player modes according to this Forum post?
Just leaving this here, not that we send Robert on a Bug-hunt later that works as original Hardware 🙂
http://forum.pj64-emu.com/showthread.php?t=5953

[foggy stirrup]

Not that i know

[trim seal]

Wow, Turok is kinda playable now?

Virtual Pool is pretty playable too.

[silent marten]

Turok, crashes when you get the first key stone

[trim seal]

Dang. No less impressive though, really.

[silent marten]

Yeah, when Robert is ready he will start looking into why certain games are crashing

[trim seal]

Of course. I'm not in any rush, I love the process.

[silent marten]

Yeah so do I

Worms Armageddon kinda works

[fallen sparrow]

Glad I'm not the only one 😂

[trim seal]

Taz Express is janky as heck but sort of playable. Ish.

[narrow ruin]

i can't run certain games like Banjo Kazooie or etc, are we still best using nointro.n64 big endian roms?

[silent marten]

Do you have the latest unstable main and the N64-database.txt file?

[narrow ruin]

the main yes but maybe the database got updated since the first version?

[silent marten]

No it didn't change

[narrow ruin]

then iguess i should be good, lotsa games do run but some that i see in screenshots here or videos just give me nothing upon loading , like banjo, or yoshi's story...

[trim seal]

Some of them require waiting longer than you'd think - also best to reset the core after you load each game.

Some you have to mash start to skip through invisible prompts.

[silent marten]

Do you ever get auto detect failed?

[narrow ruin]

yes most of the time actually

[silent marten]

Hmmm, check to make sure that your roms are not 0kb

And if they are not then change the N in the database txt from a capital to a lowercase or uppercase or vice versa

[narrow ruin]

well the thing is i get auto detect failed message for roms that do run 🤔

[vagrant ivy]

HAs to be a Cap N at the start of the database

[silent marten]

This depends on the filesystem

Mine is still lowercase and works fine

[vagrant ivy]

yep but the core is looking for Cap N

your filesystem is just not caring and giving the file

[narrow ruin]

ah i had saved the database file straight to the SD, and didn't see that it says vampier.net in the filename!

removed that 😄

[silent marten]

Haha there ya go

[vagrant ivy]

yes the download doesnt work from some browsers

Vampier now has an update script

Auto Update Script
As per tradition I have created an auto update script the script is provided as is and comes without warranty use at your own risk Download here

The file should be saved to /media/fat/Scripts on your MiSTer

WARNING!: The script updates to MiSTer unstable, if you don't know what this means then do not use this script!

The latest test versions are uploaded by me, since I have a life outside the internet it might take a while before updates are available

thats taken from the FAQ

it will set the system up minus the Bios Rom Which since the Big N is Lawyer happy you have to find yourself

[narrow ruin]

Banjo Kazooie currently running, yayy!

[silent marten]

Glad we could help you 🙂

[dawn pebble]

Tarzan is fully playable with almost constant 30 fps

[daring meteor]

We might end up starting to list several games into crash reason and everything haha

[solemn maple]

I wonder what Robert got brewing in his lair, he's been so quiet today 🤔

[compact depot]

CPU data cache for sure

[dusty tusk]

Getting an autodetect failed on pretty much every rom I try. For now just Mario 64

Mario kart 64*

I've verified that I have the correct ntsc boot rom as well

[silent marten]

Unstable main and N64-database.txt?

[dusty tusk]

Yes to both

[silent marten]

Database file is defo named correctly?

[hearty oar]

upper case N in N64-database.txt? That caught someone else out recently, it is case-sensitive

[dusty tusk]

Yeah, I even resorted to vampiers script just to make sure

[silent marten]

Are your roms from the no intro pack?

[hearty oar]

otherwise yeah the hash of the first 4kb of the ROM need to match the hash in the database

[dusty tusk]

Hm, they might not be. I'll try a no intro rom to check

[silent marten]

Also check that your roms are not 0kb that has caught a few people recently

[thick terrace]

caught me. Not a fan of CaSe SeNSiTiVIty

[hearty oar]

if you are feeling linux-y you can ssh into your MiSTer and check the hash yourself with head -c 4096 "<path to your rom>" | md5sum and compare that against what's in the database

[wanton sun]

reached enough for the weekend, also need to rest one day and do other things 🙂

[dusty tusk]

Fresh no intro Mario kart 64. Still failed autodetect

[wanton sun]

but yes, i will try to get the datacache in and then eeprom save to sdcard. After that i should be able to complete Mario Kart 🙂

[silent marten]

Hmmmm

Defo double check your N64-database.txt

[dusty tusk]

Is mister V230821 the correct version?

[wanton sun]

should be fine

if you get the print on the screen, mister main is not the problem

[fair stump]

@wanton sun has development pretty much gone to your expectations? Do you think there may nasty issues to work out in the future?

[wanton sun]

there will be plenty of difficult to debug things later on, i'm very sure 🙂

[weary palm]

I actually made a special 16:9 build of the core, to try this out. Another way is using an output resolution that's 4:3 (ie 1920×1440 or 1440×1080 instead of 1920×1080) and then utilize the stretch feature on your TV. I'm hoping Robert incorporate a widescreen switch into the core eventually.

[dusty tusk]

Hmm, I'm at a loss then. Boot rom is sha1 compatible, game is no intro, mister is correct

[limber willow]

Make sure you've got the .z64 format for the roms

[dusty tusk]

It is

[orchid nimbus]

Boot.rom or boot.rom?

[silent marten]

Does MK64 actually run regardless of auto detect failed?

[weary palm]

Perhaps the boot rom is the wrong file ame

[limber willow]

This is mine (working, US/NTSC)

/media/fat/N64# sha1sum boot.rom
b7a0070cbe4b9bcaa08ec0b76b8c4955b2ae535a boot.rom

/media/fat/N64# sha1sum Mario\ Kart\ 64.z64
579c48e211ae952530ffc8738709f078d5dd215e Mario Kart 64.z64

/media/fat/N64# sha1sum n64-database.txt
5ced3e0953d74a2456a25c9c8bad87b241c9f82c n64-database.txt
@dusty tusk

[weary palm]

Like boot.rom.bin or something

[limber willow]

just lowercase boot.rom

[orchid nimbus]

My script detects issues as well

Run it and try again

[lament escarp]

Cpu datacache you mean? Enjoy your day off. 🙂

[hollow rune]

What will the data cache do in terms of what we see on the screen?

[silent marten]

Games will run faster

[dusty tusk]

No more auto detect failed message. Now just black screen

[orchid nimbus]

@hollow rune it will up the FPS

In short

Games like Goemon are running too slow - the intro is timed to music for example

And Mario kart music is timed to end at the end of the music - it’s a few seconds off

[hearty oar]

pretty sure MK64 races themselves have slowdown also beyond what was originally there

[orchid nimbus]

When the PSX core got datatcache it was truly a big jump in speed

Like you got a PSX that should have been made

Dual core made it even faster

[orchid nimbus]

That’s what I just said - still fun to play at this speed though

[limber willow]

Very much so, yeah. But time trials is full speed on some levels

[silent marten]

This is very odd

Does any game at all run?

[dusty tusk]

Does it not work with games on usb0?

[silent marten]

It does

That is where my games are

[worn delta]

Did this change? The original file was lowercase, does the original one not work any more?

[orchid nimbus]

If you FTP to your mister make sure binary transfer is on

[orchid nimbus]

Stop it - we corrected to upper N

[cloud peak]

yeah I have same problem with n64 core.

Got everything

[orchid nimbus]

Took quite some coordinating to get that done before other people ran into it

[cloud peak]

bios is from the no intro set

got the txt file and the latest n64 from test build

[orchid nimbus]

Toya yours doesn’t work?

[cloud peak]

Nope

[daring meteor]

Robert really going for a MK64 speedrun hahaha

[worn delta]

You definitely using unstable Main?

[cloud peak]

Doesnt work

Oh is there an unstable main?

Let me check

I have the latest released Main

[orchid nimbus]

Toya can you run https://vampier.net/N64/update_N64.sh and try again?

[worn delta]

If you run update script it will wipe over the unstable one, if you have it installed, so don't do that

[cloud peak]

Ok then I need to add the unstable main

I thought It was released recently lol 😄

[orchid nimbus]

@worn delta my script always installs latest unstable

[worn delta]

Ah, cool

[orchid nimbus]

I even have a remark about that on my FAQ

‘WARNING!: The script updates to MiSTer unstable, if you don't know what this means then do not use this script!’

Don’t feel like answering Stuff like ‘why doesn’t X work’ or ‘you broke my mister I’ll sue you’ stuff

[terse canyon]

is there anything special with the xeno crisis rom apart from being 64MB ? just black screen

[hearty python]

Run update all again shout get the stable build again, if any should be unhappy 😁

[cloud peak]

Sin and punishment goes in game, plays for like 10 sec and then crashes with error message

[bronze tree]

not sure which CIC we should select for it (maybe it doesn't matter) and which save file format (sram and flash are not supported yet)

[orchid nimbus]

Oh cool so it works 🙂

Better than black screen

[cloud peak]

Yup

Its a good game

[orchid nimbus]

Mario kart 64 works as expected?

[cloud peak]

Yes

[orchid nimbus]

Sweet

What corrected it?

[cloud peak]

Unstable main

[orchid nimbus]

Yay

My update script?

[cloud peak]

Yes sir

[orchid nimbus]

🙂

[cloud peak]

Although if I can come with feedback regarding the script, it would be better if the core could be placed under a _Unstable folder

Not a big deal tbh

[orchid nimbus]

Yeah I was thinking about that after the fact

[worn delta]

That would be better, the builds will wind up there once Robert adds it to unstable nightlies for people using that database (which I assume it quite a lot of people)

[orchid nimbus]

It’s 4:25 here

I’ll do that later

[cloud peak]

There is a script that some people uses that downloads from the unstable nightlies and puts them into _Unstable folder

[worn delta]

Your script grabbing unstable Main is very handy Vampier, it's a faff moving over to an unstable Main, and annoying when you can't run update mister scripts without wiping it and having to manually do it all again, just running a script after to go back to the unstable one for N64 testing is great user experience

[trim seal]

Up until this I've been continuing to use the PSX updater script to get the unstable main :p

[orchid nimbus]

Hehehe 🙂 same

[compact lark]

Around the time you did the GBA core, did you ever think that you'd get Mario Kart 64 running on Mister as it is in its current state?

[lilac scroll]

Even machines need to recharge their batteries

[oblique remnant]

when playing OG N64 now I notice the Dithering a lot more than before 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

OG?

[brisk drum]

Original hardware im sure he means

[zinc dew]

OG = Original Gamer

[oblique remnant]

original gangsta 🙂

[hollow pebble]

Thanks for this, missed it existed!

[snow mulch]

what games work without patch? Going to see if i set it up right??

[hearty python]

Mk64 should run

[zinc dew]

Check the pins, there’s a link to a spreadsheet for the full list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8/htmlview

[silent marten]

The only game that requires a patch to get in game is Mario 64

But it is still a your milage may vary core, Mario Kart 64 works really well with some minor slowdown, Star Fox 64 looks amazing now too but also some slowdown there

[vagrant ivy]

My Eyes what have you done to my Eyes !

Mario patch removes the eyes for context

[silent marten]

And the mustache

[snow mulch]

i don't think i got the right files.
n64 bios renamed to boot.rom. maybe wrong one. (messuage me if it's that. )
Got database in n64 folder
Still some things to work out.
Hope it's better in the new year atleast.

[weary palm]

it removes the sideburns and his buttons also. also the penguin's eyes.

[silent marten]

The fact that Robert said no gameplay this month and Mario Kart 64 won't run until December, at this rate core will be very playable by November

Tetrisphere runs really well at half speed

[compact depot]

OoT on Xmas 🎄

[silent marten]

This will be very very nice if true

[silent marten]

I sent you a DM buddy

[vapid moat]

Funny thing, I just discovered a day ago that Sega CD-core doesn't now work with the bios boot freezing on unstable

[vagrant ivy]

works for me

[cerulean elk]

Wakes up…stretches…checks N64 channel 😂

[trim seal]

Glad I'm not the only one.

[cerulean elk]

Haha. My phone is a mess of notifications in the morning. Discord. YT comments, Twitter. It gets a bit much

[silent marten]

Hehe I do the same, sometimes I don't even stretch first xD

[cerulean elk]

Truth be told “walk and feed dog” was in there too

She waits for no FPGA core

[silent marten]

At least you get a day off from making a core update video 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Haha I’m not complaining

[vagrant ivy]

havent you told him about the new core just out

[cerulean elk]

Nice try. That’s the first thing I look for

[vagrant ivy]

Oh thats only for us Tier 99 Patreons

[cerulean elk]

My wife has today and tomorrow off so I wouldn’t make much of anything anyway. Tuesday is the earliest I’d go probably

[silent marten]

Was just about to say this

[vagrant ivy]

I forgot you were in peasant class

[silent marten]

I think this is when the next build will drop anyway

[vagrant ivy]

You been enjoying the Dreamcast build that dropped ?

[cerulean elk]

Yeah. Right when the PS3 core came out too. Wild stuff

[hasty kayak]

PS5 Core in development right now. I am calling it

[vagrant ivy]

well the 10000 euro a month has to give some benefit

[hasty kayak]

Got 1 Pixel of the Main Menu showing.. .groundbreaking stuff!

[trim seal]

Pretty sure Robert is halfway through the PS6 core that Sony hired him to make.

[hasty kayak]

hahaha no Robert is doing the Backwards Compatibility Layer for it as Sony are incapable.

[trim seal]

Of course, what was I thinking.

[vagrant ivy]

PS6 just boots to an Xbox Emualtor with a message saying sorry about the PS5

[cerulean elk]

PS5 and Series X are just decorative objects around my tv now. Dunno the last time I turned them on

[hasty kayak]

PS6 will show the Bleem! Gravestone picture with Sonic standing in front of it when it boots.

[hasty kayak]

Same as man.

MiSTer gets most used followed by my Pentium III 3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 AGP PC 🙂

[cerulean elk]

MiSTer is the most used followed by Steam Deck

[vagrant ivy]

Gaming PC followed by Mister

[trim seal]

I'm usually on my gaming PC and the Mister to my right at the same time, especially during a core development cycle by Robert.

Wait.

Mister is to my left.

I am tired.

[vagrant ivy]

There again the GCard in my PC cost 4 times a Mister setup

[dreamy ridge]

oh baby, i missed a build. what does 2-pass render mode do?

[vagrant ivy]

better graphics

[lament escarp]

Some places that were black are now actual graphics. But it's not perfect yet.

[trim seal]

It means you do a double-take when you see how far the core has come.

[silent marten]

It is still in its very basic form and you should reload the core after every game just to clear the memory or some games appear washed out, it happens to wave race and star fox so far

Data Cache will make star fox 64 play amazingly

[cerulean elk]

Spent a LOT of time in comments yesterday explaining what cache is. Which I explained in the video lol

[vagrant ivy]

what's a cache ? is it like a badly spelt cask ?

[cerulean elk]

It’s where pirates buried their treasures

[vagrant ivy]

can you define it in units of a Football Field ?

[vapid hawk]

cache is what you send Rob on patreon so he can buy enough DDR dancemats to finish the core

[silent marten]

People don't listen lol

[vagrant ivy]

Its also a word Australians cant pronounce

[odd vector]

tried the n64 for the first time. Wow that's great progress. Robotron 64 works very good 🙂

[silent marten]

They see the video and are like ooooo pretty graphics...

[vapid hawk]

are there really no ddr games on n64? thats odd

[silent marten]

Until it hangs

[odd vector]

got to around level 11 till it crashed 😄

starshot does also work, but slow 🙂

[marble cargo]

It's a French tart with meats and cheeses I believe.

[safe robin]

I always alter vampires script so it downloads the unstable to a _Unstable folder. Als have my Saturn cores there. I like to have it separate from the stable releases that may follow

You can check it's basically just one path variable that has to be changed

[lament escarp]

It's not cache, it's cash! If you want better performance better pay up!

[oblique remnant]

we need more cache for quest

[vagrant ivy]

is cache like Quiche ?

does it make the N64 faster as the processor now has some food

[zinc dew]

No, cache is a hardware or software component that stores data so that future requests for that data can be served faster.

You can go here for more info: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cache_(computing)

[vagrant ivy]

lol My humour has flown over your head !

[zinc dew]

humor can’t fly, it’s made of audio waves

or written as text

This is very serious channel

well that joke didn’t land, moving on!

[modest helm]

There’s a Japan only one I think. DDR Disney’s Dancing Museum

[zinc dew]

MiSTer Fast Facts:

The “64” in Nintendo 64 refers to the amount of daily videos that @cerulean elk puts out for N64 core updates.

[cerulean elk]

Fun fact; 64 is the measurement of Robby in millimeters for..well…Nevermind

[modest helm]

Millimeters or nanometers? Lol jk 😅

[cerulean elk]

Sorry yes I got it wrong. @zinc dew is made in the same scale as CPUs. Intel had to measure him

[raw oriole]

The leg count is the most important stat for both

[daring meteor]

We need the core to be Cache-er

[zinc dew]

MiSTer Fast Facts:

The MiSTer Discord runs a clown college scholarship where we allow up and coming clowns practice their craft to get evaluated for admittance. We congratulate our most recent recipient, @cerulean elk!

[cerulean elk]

I humbly accept. Especially since you are the Dean

[zinc dew]

< 🤡 Dean for life

[karmic locust]

What? Did somebody say something?

[static solar]

`0

[topaz otter]

do you know how much a voodoo card costs now

the price is astronomical

[vagrant ivy]

4090 is astronomical

Voodoo 3 is cheap !

[dreamy ridge]

how much is a voodoo card these days

i just dl'd quake 2 (remastered) which used to run on voodoo 2, i think

[solemn maple]

Is this a z-buffer bug? @wanton sun

[mild ether]

Depends what voodoo card you want. Some are cheap some are pretty desirable.

[solemn maple]

Sorry for the poor video quality

[daring meteor]

How much Banshee costs

That was like the best one cause it combined 3d and 2d

[silent marten]

I am not sure, it could be

Tag Robert for that video and when he is free he could answer that question

[solemn maple]

Stars also visible through walls

[solemn maple]

Done

[silent marten]

Don't expect a response today as he is having a day off

[graceful summit]

Is there any script that automatically downloads new release of n64 to test? Like the Saturn one

[silent marten]

Vampiers

[cerulean elk]

Deserved

[silent marten]

Very much so

[cerulean elk]

@fallen sparrow we get the day off too 🤣

[fallen sparrow]

I visited my kids, turns out they've grown 😂

[solemn maple]

As a paying patreon member I demand immediate response

/s

[sudden harness]

How many people does it take to build an n64 from scratch

[vagrant ivy]

6

5 to watch Robert Work and a Robert

[sudden harness]

I be finding this stuff impressive

One of gamings biggest emulation problems being solved right before my eyes

[odd vector]

i wonder if even someone else as Robert would be able to fullfill that, I hardly doubt that

[brisk drum]

Yep I think either vampier made one or was working on one , check his website

[vagrant ivy]

Its on Vampier's site

it does it all minus the boot.rom due to legal issues

[daring meteor]

Anyone wanna start a list of TLB games?

[graceful summit]

thank you guys! I don't know vampier, do you know the url? I've tried to search it on google but with no result

[vagrant ivy]

its in the pins

of this channel

[graceful summit]

uh, sorry!

[native mesa]

Paper Mario?

[daring meteor]

Paper Mario, Goldeneye, SM64 unpatched

[viscid gate]

Robert mentioned some that failed early due to it
#1096015979055697940 message

[nova grotto]

I guess the most requested over and over data are the perfect candidate for being 'cached data' right ?

[ocean lily]

for some reason I thought Qυεsτ64 used the TLB too

[daring meteor]

No, զuе́st works fine without

[rare flint]

what .ini settings you use?

[nova grotto]

Road Rash 64 now is playable not perfect fps obviously but playable somewhat playable

[zinc dew]

I don’t think anyone really knows outside of a scant few of what’s needed other than Robert.

I certainly don’t know, haha,

Robert has an extremely smart development process where he focused on what’s needed for a particular favorite game of his. For this core that’s Mario Kart 64.

It’s why that game sees such drastic improvements between builds because he’s specifically targeting functionality for that game.

It’s smart because he has a tangible goal with clear results. Because it’s a game he likes he’s also more inclined to work harder at it because he has personal attachment.

[lament escarp]

Imagine he'd focused on brian64 as the first game. He'd be the biggest troll in the mister history.

[zinc dew]

I mean, I wouldn’t complain tbh. Lol

[daring meteor]

Brian64 is one of the games that crashes rn for no reason

[zinc dew]

Lot of games do. A lot isn’t replicated in the core yet. Comically once it’s implemented, it would likely work pretty well.

[lament escarp]

I never cared for brian64, but after hearing so much about it I really want to experience it. Aydin chronicles also looks very interesting.

[daring meteor]

Most of what isn't replicated is in the RDP (Which shouldn't affect crashes afaik) or in TLB (Which is verifiable)

There's just some RSP bugs there and there

[silent marten]

For all we know it could literally just be CPU Data Cache being needed as well as all 3 saving modes being implemented

[cerulean elk]

It’s the most “vanilla flavored” rpg imaginable. The white bread of the RPG kingdom lol

[zinc dew]

Quest 64 is literally like an NES RPG in terms of story and navigation complexity mixed with a forward thinking (for the time) battle system that they didn’t really do a great job design balancing.

[lament escarp]

I also heard aydin chronicles crashes a lot on emulators, especially and reliably when being hit by certain spells. I really need to verify that it works on mister.

[languid dune]

Blasphemy! Get the pitch forks everyone!

[cerulean elk]

I said what I said 😂

[zinc dew]

Like if you go in without any expectations, it’s alright. Kind of novel in a way as a lot of RPGs of that era didn’t have fully 3D polygonal environments with an over the shoulder camera.

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah save

Might try testing that too

[zinc dew]

Aidyn Chronicles is just not good.

[daring meteor]

Good catch

[lament escarp]

[zinc dew]

I mean it’s great to enjoy it!

[languid dune]

As great as Brian64 is, it can't stand up to the might of Mischief Makers.

Shake shake

[zinc dew]

I was never a fan of Mischief Makers

I think it’s good

Just not a fan

[languid dune]

Not cool my dude.

You must be a fan of every game I like!

[zinc dew]

lol

[weary palm]

I haven't given it an honest chances. I've just played a few levels.

[zinc dew]

Maybe I’ll love it now?

[languid dune]

No maybes about it!

[zinc dew]

I haven’t played it since it was contemporary

[languid dune]

It's honestly my personal favorite Treasure game.

[zinc dew]

Want a hot take

[languid dune]

I'm scared.

[weary palm]

Gonna watch a TAS now and ruin it.

[zinc dew]

I think Treasure’s art sucks. In particular their character designs are offensively bad.

[oblique remnant]

Is Tetris 64 the first fully working game? Apart from the Bio Sensor 🙂

[languid dune]

https://tenor.com/view/face-melting-indiana-jones-fire-transforming-gif-12010697

[zinc dew]

I mean their games are incredible though so who cares.

[languid dune]

My fear was justified!

[zinc dew]

Art is subjective

[languid dune]

Next thing you're going to say is that you don't like Metroid and F-Zero!

I may have just revealed my biggest weakness.

[weary palm]

What about radiant silvergun

My favorite is OoT woopdidoo

[languid dune]

Get outta here with that mainstream stuff!

[weary palm]

...right. Can't help it!

[mild ether]

I had no idea that was a thing. Cool.

[zinc dew]

I mean I hate that I have that opinion. I love everything else so it’s real annoying I wince at the art.

Metroid Prime one of my all time favorites.

[weary palm]

I really liked Paper Mario too. And Diddy Kong Racing.

[languid dune]

You had my interest. Now you have my attention!

[oblique remnant]

only saw it in a magazine back then. never played it with the pulse sensor.

[mild ether]

Wow, it's not cheap.

Looks like 120ish to own one.

[weary palm]

I just want to speak with Pikachu

[languid dune]

Pika pika?

[cerulean elk]

I just stopped in to say Bomberman Hero is the best N64. That is all

[paper orchid]

I am a huge fan of Treasure, but they are not great at "people"

Bangai-O and Gunstar (MD and GBA) were fine to me, but Guardian Heroes reminds me of a "learn to draw manga" book I had

Mischief Makers has some of that going on with it too (in general I like MM as a game but I hate the aesthetic of it)

[zinc dew]

Yes, exactly this.

[paper orchid]

Now if I compare that to, say, Sin & Punishment

A game who's art style I adore and obsess over rofl

[fair stump]

I've played about five minutes of the wii sin & punishment so I'm looking forward to playing the n64 one and then the wii one again.

[languid dune]

The Wii game is amazing. Pointer controls make it one of the best rail shooters ever made.

[marble cargo]

That is a specific issue with character designer Tetsuhiko Kikuchi, but even then it's obvious that he has improved with later games. For example he worked on Glory of Hercules and Half-minute Hero later on, and both games lack that same jank with the human characters.

[zenith orchid]

ah, Robert is finally taking a break, that's wonderful

I might filter the spreadsheet by build, and see if I can get everything up to date

the mario kart entry still mentions black boxes

[daring meteor]

Be ready to update in in a week to remove any mention of slowdown

[zenith orchid]

oh that would be great if datacache handles every case of slowdown

[cerulean elk]

I’m just glad it’s been a peaceful Sunday lol

[mellow path]

Why not give it a fair "shake-shake"?

[cerulean elk]

At the farmers market waiting for my wife to finish shopping. It does beat FPGA lol

[paper orchid]

Right, it's just that the work he did with Treasure back during "this era". Glory of Heracles (assuming the DS one since I know he did work there) looks fine!

[worn delta]

Please feel free to check any that haven't been done for awhile, a lot I did near the top of the sheet. Just update and mark yourself the tester. Great that everything in the USA section has been tested on a build now, even if some are on an older one 🙂

[vagrant ivy]

So you are a Canine. Rumour Confirmed, How do you do the voiceovers ?

[lament escarp]

You're actually handsome. Didn't expact that.

[pallid falcon]

I've been testing some of the Japanese exclusive games. Finished for the day, but there are still several that remain unchecked.

We have our first playable Aleck 64 game: Star Soldier Vanishing Earth

[fair stump]

@worn delta I requested access to the sheet yesterday if you don't mind adding me

[worn delta]

Oh, I thought I added everyone who requested

[pallid falcon]

Text isn't quite right on the title screen and there is some slowdown at times, but it is playable.

[weary palm]

I will, now that I'm no longer stuck with a PAL N64 thanks to MiSTer, sorg and Robert and everyone else. 🙂

[mild ether]

The most important Aleck 64 game still doesnt work. 😢

[weary palm]

The one about dolls?

[mild ether]

Its a masterpiece.

[worn delta]

Added now

[fair stump]

Thanks!

[pallid falcon]

I vividly remember someone mention something about dolls.

[zinc dew]

@mild ether do you know who that is?

[mild ether]

Doesn't ring a bell.

[lament escarp]

HOLY SHIT I GOOGLED VIVID DOLLS IS IT PLAYABLE

[orchid nimbus]

No

[cold pollen]

Probably oughta be priority #1 honestly

[lament escarp]

Why not? What could a game like that possibly require?

[vagrant ivy]

A deranged mind

[pallid falcon]

Sin (and punishment).

[zinc dew]

lol y’all on top of your jokes today, well done

[cold pollen]

a lust....

for progress

[zinc dew]

@cerulean elk should be taking notes

[worn delta]

I've cleaned up some of the conditional formatting that had gone awry and brought the non retail tabs to the right in line with the other ones. I also added a Column on the Japanese section for the English name if anyone is very knowledgeable of these things, I couldn't find Animal Forest and Sin and Punishment, so figured it would be helpful to have this populated (assuming someone wants to!)

[fair stump]

I believe that's Doubutsu no Mori

Animal Forest, that is

[worn delta]

One small note, someone added Banjo Kazooie with a different file extension (so from a different pack). The sheet is based on the htgdb pack (exack name in the sheet title), which appears to be the same files as no intro for the retail games. If you are using a different set, please don't add extra rows with your file extension version in, that is a route to things getting very messy. Although it is good to know someone seems to have been able to complete Banjo Kazooie

[marble cargo]

Sin & Punishment is called Tsumi to Batsu: Hoshi no Keishōsha in Japanese

[unkempt vortex]

what does that mean?

[pallid falcon]

Someone just beat me to adding the name

[cold pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-you-what-huh-gif-19676334

[worn delta]

I popped those two on, but if you know other onscure ones please feel free to add!

[marble cargo]

"Sin and Punishment: Earth Successor"

[worn delta]

I suspect I may have accidentally marked one or two exclusives that aren't - because I got confused with the names and the list I was going off of

[unkempt vortex]

Hoshi no Kābī

So Hoshi means multiple things

[marble cargo]

Also remember that there are two different games called Bomberman 64. One is called "Baku Bomberman" in Japan and Bomberman 64 everywhere else, while Japan eventually got a separate Bomberman 64 released in 2001.

[pallid falcon]

One of the EUR exclusives was incorrect - I amended it the other day to the correct game

[worn delta]

Yeah that is confusing, did I mark the right one on the sheet as exclusive? Would be good to get the English names next to those to avoid confusion

Are people using the sheet finding it user friendly? Is there anything that could be added to improve upon it?

If anyone is looking for the symtests listed on that tab, Robert posted a download for them awhile back:
#1096015979055697940 message

and the gigaleak files you can find googleing for gigaleak n64 archive, it's part of a pack of around 300mb with NES/SNES/GB etc. files in there (quite a fun set)

One that may be worth keeping an eye on is 40 Winks in the unlicensed folder (one of only 2) which I added to the bottom of the ROW tab. I'm not sure what this game actually is, and it's not in the text file yet.

[weary palm]

A tiny patch for Mario Kart 64 (USA).z64 (SHA1: 579c48e211ae952530ffc8738709f078d5dd215e)

Hope we get a 4:3 / 16:9 toggle in the core eventually

[worn delta]

That's a good point, I wonder how Goldeneye and the other games that could do 16:9 will work

[weary palm]

They will need that toggle

[warm pollen]

hi guys - is there a setup guide or just simply run the core and load rom from /games/n64? I am just getting black screens loading any .z64 roms. no error codes just 00

oh wait nvm my boot.rom is wrong

[marble cargo]

I know some games supported anamorphic widescreen in the options. Several of the Rare titles like Donkey Kong 64 had that.

[cerulean elk]

It’s ruff but I get it done

[zinc dew]

Check the pins for what you need but here’s a link to the FAQ - https://vampier.net/N64/

[old garden]

is the unstable version of MiSTer core required for this core to work correctly? I was getting E0047 for a while but it turned out my bios.rom was not correct so I got a dump that matches the SHA1 in the guide and now I get E0005 before loading games and E0025 after

only mention I see of that error is porkchop last night, but his later posts indicate that was a result of trying it on a different box that wasn't properly set up

[silent marten]

Unstable MiSTer main is required along with the database txt file

[lament escarp]

Does anybody know when the next stable main update will be?

[silent marten]

Only Sorg

[vagrant ivy]

use the update script in this link - https://vampier.net/N64/

[desert nest]

It might not be a bad idea to include CRC32 checksums since not everyone will have the same set, but the dumps may in fact be identical.

I'm using No-Intro BigEndian for instance.

[worn delta]

That's not a bad idea, not sure how to do that practically though to get the list of them and then I sent them cleanly into the sheet

[weary palm]

But the endianness is reversed before hashing, right?

[native mesa]

Big Endian roms don't require unstable main in my experience

[weary palm]

I think you're right

[silent marten]

Certain ones will because of the CIC auto detection

[frail jolt]

Question... do cores handle shit by game...like if there is one effect used in one game.to.make a waterfall.work well... does Robert code for that one game...or is it just a general rule implemented in the core....

Like.does some cores alter their build on a game by game scenario?

Not a serious question... just wondering

[worn delta]

It seems he is adding in functionality (like handling smoke effects) and games that utilise that functionality show it

So he is doing things primailly right now to get Mario Kart working, and then other games are working also because they use the same elements

[frail jolt]

But is that a rule he implements with like a "when game = mario64"

Or is it just "the core knows how to handle this call now"

[worn delta]

No game specific stuff

I don't think he hacks in anything like that

[old garden]

Thanks, that got me working

[frail jolt]

I was guessing nothing is game specific.. at least right now

[old garden]

yea I saw the script and saw it note that it installed unstable which is why i asked

[silent marten]

No problem 🙂

[old garden]

it is certainly possible to do game by game tweaks, this is very common in the software emulation world, but it's generally considered a "hack" which is not ideal if accuracy is the goal

[worn delta]

Hmm, I thought name.text was updated to change "N64" to "Nintendo 64" but I am not seeing it in Consoles folder (I assumed it wasn't changing before as I had my N64.rbf in Unstable)

[frail jolt]

Exactly..im just wondering how common it is in fpga dev for the mister project

[old garden]

I would imagine not very common, because in general the sort of things hacks exist for in the software emulation world tend to be for performance in simulating exactly the sort of things that FPGAs are really good at, those precisely timed interactions between hardware elements

also any game specific hacks have to be implemented "in hardware" so to speak and have a permanent cost of logic space which would be a negative

[wanton sun]

well, saying that i planned on doing psx or n64 would be to much and i probably didn't see at that time i can ever reach this goal, but well...history is preserved

[brisk drum]

For posterity bro

[cerulean elk]

Well we’ve made it to the top of Bob-omb battlefield already so I think you achieved the goal 🙂

Never been as much fun to play the first level of SM64 outside of when it was brand new

[worn delta]

Am I right in thinking with error code, if you see several of them then the final one displayed will include the errors seen previously? i.e. only the final one needs logged?

[lament escarp]

I really loved diablo on psx too. Good taste @wanton sun !

[wanton sun]

the mountain on bob-omb battle will be my most impressive moment in gaming forever. Little me standing in front of the n64 in the local eletronics market, cannot believe to climb a mountain in a full 3D world 🥹

[weary palm]

I remember my older brother being annoyed at me for just running around outside of the castle in Super Mario 64 and taking a long time before entering. Nintendo 64 was my first console bought for my own money.

[wanton sun]

all error bits stay active until you reset the core/game

[cerulean elk]

That sounds like the first time I played Hard Drivin’ and found out games could be in a third dimension. You don’t forget those moments

[weary palm]

I was just memorized by the level of freedom you had.

And the graphics seemed so far ahead of what PCs could do at the time.

[worn delta]

So what I am wondering is if someone sees both E8800 | E8805 while playing a game, and E8805 is the final code they see, does the info in E8805 include the E8000 error, so if someone is logging Error code for a game they just need to log the final one?

[daring meteor]

And you have not resisted, hahahaha

[weary palm]

Yes, E8805 includes all the bits that E8800 does, and then some.

[native mesa]

Have you done footrace with koopa the quick I your core yet?

[cerulean elk]

He doesn’t deserve his name. Dude is SLOW

[wanton sun]

no, it's not looking good enough or playing at full fps to give me the right feeling

[hollow rune]

His real advantage is later when he is unaffected by strong winds

[night saddle]

I also marinated like an hour around the castle before going in, just getting a feel for what was possible in the 3d environment

[daring meteor]

Next thing Robert works on confirmed?

[native mesa]

With the transparency sprites what makes the wireframe appearance there?

Just an interesting artifact

[cerulean elk]

For me it’s hearing the Bomberman Hero opening track

[weary palm]

I actually beat the Princess's secret slide, despite it being almost completely black. The coins helped me. Has anyone else accomplished this feat? 😂

[hearty python]

Finish 2pass and datacache iirc

[night saddle]

never heard it but bomberman music is always 🔥 🔥 🔥

[daring meteor]

Oh he did mention 2 pass beforehand?

[zenith orchid]

I'm hoping he does a 486DX4 or a P5

P5 might be a stretch, or leave little room for much else besides the CPU

[cerulean elk]

It’s the best of Bomberman IMO. Got a vinyl release recently too

[zinc dew]

What’s the best Bomberman game on the n64, again?

[zenith orchid]

bomberman64

😂 idk

[hollow rune]

I played Hero a long time ago, but I really like 64. I remember Second Attack being okay

[cerulean elk]

Oh fuck that noise 🤣

[hollow rune]

The music in 64 to me is top notch

[daring meteor]

Holy Magic Century

[zinc dew]

HAW HAW

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew is running a banana republic around here

[weary palm]

Bomberman 64 was one of the first N64 games I emulated, thanks to its small size. 😉

Dial-up was a bitch

[cerulean elk]

That’s a @zinc dew sized rom

[zinc dew]

That was a trick question, all Bomberman games on the 64 suck

|| I’m kidding lol ||

[worn delta]

Happy to confirm that all the USA roms from the htgdb are in the names.txt, so are the same as the no intro files. We can try cover off the Japan, UK and ROW during the week

[cerulean elk]

Trilogy of glory right there

[weary palm]

I wanna play this, for the meme. https://youtu.be/K8NKNKub2HI

[oblique remnant]

not all of them 🙂

[cerulean elk]

The odd man out but so good

All four are hits

I checked my tracking app. I have 38 Bomberman games 😂

[zinc dew]

Help, I tried following @orchid nimbus’s FAQ but got lost

[daring meteor]

It mostly works

Soccer field is a little dark

The famous jingle and everything works well

[weary palm]

Hahaha... Ronaldinho socser!

[zinc dew]

Is this where I’m supposed to go to get a pif rom?

[drowsy junco]

Well, that would be easier

[mild ether]

Follow to the end and take a right on Aleck

[oblique remnant]

pffff

[hasty kayak]

You haven't been PIF'd yet?

[zinc dew]

Oh my gosh it’s Robert blessing us with a new build!

[mild ether]

At the intersection of mame and Aleck.

[hasty kayak]

No way? not this late in the day?

[cerulean elk]

Now we know where you hide the bodies

[weary palm]

If an infinite number of monkies used a hex keyboard, one of them would eventually produce a valid PIF.

[zinc dew]

Oh a gross, dank dark path away from the light. That must be where all the Saturn fans are.

[hasty kayak]

SEEEGAAAAAA

[weary palm]

Nice SpeedLink Competition Pro joystick

[dense chasm]

What wireless controllers ya'll using? Looks like the switch one is like $70-90 now, yeesh

[oblique remnant]

I use this keyboard

[dense chasm]

That is canon.

[weary palm]

I use one of these. No joke.

[zenith orchid]

It seems we may have grown addicted to the rate of new N64 builds, we really need this break.

[zinc dew]

Alright I’ll stop, it’s not that funny lol

[dense chasm]

Dare i want to know why that game is a blocked word on the server?

Too many memes?

[fair stump]

Don't doxx @brisk drum like that

[dense chasm]

Kids nowadays dont understand the stockholm syndrome we developed due to it being the ONLY rpg available at the time.

[zinc dew]

I found the PlayStation path. It’s well constructed and elevates us all.

[mild ether]

You sure? That looks like 3DO road.

[weary palm]

Too many polygons for a 3DO

[dense chasm]

But yeah, been busy with personal stuff the past few months, really excited to give this core a try later! The DS5 will probably work fine for now

[zinc dew]

I found the N64 data cache!

[mild ether]

This whole place reminds me of Medieval Dynasty.

[orchid nimbus]

Then follow directions

[zenith orchid]

I wonder if he still plans to wait on datacache. bringing both 2 pass and copy mode closer to completion would make more games playable

[drowsy junco]

I'm trying to find the Simpsons gif of the original Malibu Stacy to respond to this, but no luck

[zenith orchid]

and SM64 is one of his targets

[agile flicker]

I like N64 without the filter

[zenith orchid]

I would probably keep the filter, just without the AA

[zinc dew]

I’ve been on this Quest 64 days!

[zenith orchid]

I'm not sure if the blur is part of the filter

like if blur affects the whole image, on top of the filter that affects textures

[agile flicker]

where can be found the N64 bioses ?

[mild ether]

Google.

[cerulean elk]

I found the path to 3DO @zinc dew directly to gaming heaven

[mild ether]

Aleck 64 PIF mame is a good thing to Google sometimes.

Interesting results.

[dusty tusk]

Now I'm thinking my mister is just buggered up. Update all keeps redownloading everything. Happened since moving to New Zealand. I'll keep plugging away. I will play this core doggonit

[cerulean elk]

Like overwriting and redownloading everything? Vs just confirming what exists and bypassing it?

[dusty tusk]

Deleting and redownloading

[cerulean elk]

Weird

[dusty tusk]

Almost like it thinks every core is out of date

[cerulean elk]

System clock pulling a time? I mean I dunno how it wouldn’t…it’s got internet connection…but

[agile flicker]

I think I found

[zenith orchid]

One thing that I've always heard about the 3DO is that it had like 50 something porn games. Aside from that and the DOOM port, why do so many people want a 3DO core?

[dusty tusk]

The internet is ridiculously spotty here, so lord knows what's going on. I'll try again when we move to Airbnb with Fibre

[mild ether]

For those 50 games.

[cerulean elk]

It had like…four. Saturn had porn and NOBODY gives it shit

Sorry. It had 9

[mild ether]

Hell n64 hardware had one even.

[dusty tusk]

Despite the DD the n64 unfortunately has none

[cerulean elk]

The GOAT

[zenith orchid]

that's the one?

oh that's not n64 lol

[agile flicker]

3DO has a lot of North American flavour.

[zenith orchid]

licensed by Nintendo, what a surprise

I think the NES had some as well

[cerulean elk]

Disk Kun shaped

[mild ether]

Yep, licensed by Nintendo. They approved it.

[cerulean elk]

I always thought Aleck64 was just an inverted Disk Kun. Tucked his arms in

[zenith orchid]

3DO apparently had actual hardcore shit didn't it?

[agile flicker]

3DO's Super Street Fighter is very good

[zenith orchid]

they didn't have a filter to the extent that sega and Nintendo did

[agile flicker]

I think it's the best version of its time

better than the ugly Saturn and PSX conversions.

[mild ether]

It was the best way to play street fighter at home for many years.

[agile flicker]

the playability is the key

[thorny marten]

Yup I had Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo for 3do

[agile flicker]

3DO version conserves the playability good.

but other games

rare north american stuff

I cannot understand

way of the warrior... what's that ?

[zenith orchid]

I bet 3DO will land on Jotego's list, if it hasn't already

[agile flicker]

but I like the Road Rash for the 3DO

the most

[thorny marten]

3do had Super Wing Commander a version of the game you couldnt play anywhere else

[vagrant ivy]

3DO also has its own channel which isnt the N64 channel

[modest helm]

My theory is that srg320 will work on either 3DO or Jaguar after Saturn. Maybe VB

[agile flicker]

hehehe

yes

the Jaguar has a core in progress, right ?

[vagrant ivy]

https://discord.com/channels/647909397477195803/1052057593654284329

[cerulean elk]

I hope VB. It gets us halfway to PC-FX

[agile flicker]

PC-FX... I hope

[modest helm]

I think the CD-I will be left as the last console worked on

[agile flicker]

Zenki deserves to be played

short game, but very nice

[zenith orchid]

So yeah, about the N64

[modest helm]

But…Killing Time!

[zenith orchid]

killing time for N64 might be neat

[daring meteor]

Casio Loopy

[cerulean elk]

I have seven copies and multiple 3DOs. I can hang for a bit

[compact depot]

“In progress”

[zenith orchid]

how many n64s you got?

[agile flicker]

I want N64 core for play Puzzle Dama and Wave Race

[modest helm]

7! What do you do with the other 6?

[zenith orchid]

what's puzzle dama?

[mild ether]

I have one that will soon be for sale I think.

[agile flicker]

Tokkae Dama

sorry

[dusty tusk]

Anyone tried fzero yet?

[agile flicker]

Taisen Tokkae Dama

[zenith orchid]

@dusty tusk doesn't boot unfortunately

[dusty tusk]

Sad face

[zenith orchid]

ikr

[cerulean elk]

Two

[mild ether]

And a everdrive.

[modest helm]

I want Jaguar CD for posterity bc that thing is super rare and supremely unreliable

[zenith orchid]

I love the fzero franchise

[marble cargo]

Taisen Puzzle Dama is series of puzzle games by Konami in the vein of Puyo Puyo.

[agile flicker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfw9X4DKLQ

this one

I had this cartridge when I had japanese n64

I don't have it anymore

[zenith orchid]

@modest helm they should've made a N64 CD, square might have stuck around

[mild ether]

Yep, it really needs a core. Vid Grid was great.

[zinc dew]

This is the 3DO path!

[cerulean elk]

OG, black mail in bug fix version, Japanese Tozetareta Yakata version, PAL version, PC, Mac, alpha CD-r from 3DO offices and beta CD-R from 3DO offices. So 8 actually

[zenith orchid]

@zinc dew it leads to the 3DO channel right? 😂

[agile flicker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg4_uwKkE6Q

this one has sound

[cerulean elk]

AvP. It’s the reason to own a Jaguar. Worth it for that alone

[agile flicker]

the game is fun

[cerulean elk]

Only consoles that have no games worth buying the hardware for IMO are Loopy and Playdia

[agile flicker]

Tempest is a good point for the Jaguar

[cerulean elk]

Everything else has one game at least that makes it worth the investment

[daring meteor]

Anyone tried Puzzle Dama by the way?

[cerulean elk]

Also Taito X—55. Not worth it

[daring meteor]

If not I'll try it

[mild ether]

Pipin?

[daring meteor]

Wave Race Works

[agile flicker]

Pippin not worth

[cerulean elk]

Jungle Island. A banger. Gundam Tactics is also fun once you get the hang of it

[dusty tusk]

Wonder if densha de go works

[zenith orchid]

it does look like a lot of fun. is it basically a puyo puyo clone?

[cerulean elk]

I might not have powered my Pippin on in years but I’d never sell it

[zenith orchid]

oh I haven't seen anyone test that in a while

[cerulean elk]

I just got a Densha De Go board in

[zenith orchid]

Maybe 2 pass is all it needed

[daring meteor]

Its its own game

[vagrant ivy]

someone made Densha de go for the N64 ?

[dusty tusk]

There's a patch for n64 densha de go that makes everything English including microphone commands

[vagrant ivy]

wonder if they ever made a controller for it

[cerulean elk]

I need to make a damn controller for this board. I’m not looking forward to it

[vagrant ivy]

I have the PS1 Controller via SNac

[dusty tusk]

Finally some culture

[vagrant ivy]

apparently there is a N64 controller

[daring meteor]

@agile flicker Taisen Puzzle Dama works, sprite errors but the orbs look fine, runs full-speed which is a rarity in this core

[cerulean elk]

Would you be willing to open it up and send me some board photos?

[vagrant ivy]

The PS1 controller ?

[zinc dew]

did some say Densha de go

[cerulean elk]

Yeah. I was thinking of buying one and modding into this arcade board

[daring meteor]

For anyone looking to play puzzle games on this core, it's a great choice

[cerulean elk]

I’ve got a Type JC Densha de go but nothing to plug into it. I need to find out what controllers are analog

[vagrant ivy]

I can see how its put together. It rattles a bit when I hold it so something is loose

[cerulean elk]

I need analog values on brake and accel for the board, not digital signals

[vagrant ivy]

and I dont want to break it as it cost a lot to import from Japan

[cerulean elk]

Zero rush. It’s another board on my list of boards that need mods. Probably won’t deal with it till at least October

[vagrant ivy]

seems the N64 controller goes for 86 - 150 Uk pounds

now can I justify that for Densha

[cerulean elk]

I’ve got a Densha board to mod out, a Dangerous Curves too…but I have no wiring diagram for that so I’m…how do you say….fucked on that one

[vagrant ivy]

https://gist.github.com/QuintusHegie/487348d07e3e24f0c644a9ec23bdce26

[native mesa]

Yeah I just did earlier as well

[cerulean elk]

Nice. Never saw that. Answers that..:digital. Damn it

[zinc dew]

I have Densha de go for the 64

[lone geyser]

Worth mentioning that this is exactly what you'd expect from a stick that can reach the end of its range on both axes. Anything not made for N64 emulation should look like that way until some kind of gating/adjusting is implemented

[hearty python]

Jaguar isn’t important anymore since the pc port was done. Same guy who has done the console port collection. Works so well, that FPGA isn’t really needed 😁

[vagrant ivy]

Densha De Go is a great fun game

its very zen

and the controller has a space for a Pocket watch so you can keep time

[zinc dew]

Yeah that’s what @desert crow informed me. Either way appreciate the education friend!

[cerulean elk]

Ooh the plug and play Densha controller is analog. Nice

[vagrant ivy]

MArio Kart on a Densha controller ?

[zinc dew]

Probably works better now

[elfin relic]

the only proper way to play kart de mario

[daring meteor]

Kart De Mario

[zinc dew]

Yeah lol, I don’t think it works properly though. I’ll need to test with latest.

[dusty tusk]

I came so close to getting that plug n play

[cerulean elk]

And it’s $150-200 on eBay. Damn it

[elfin relic]

the plug n play is pretty fun

[lone geyser]

Whoops! That's what I get for not keeping up with this channel.
JT Friday? More like zumSpass *day

[cerulean elk]

I dunno if I want to drop $200 for a Densha setup for one board

[zinc dew]

Oh no, it was mentioned in this channel. So it’s great you mentioned it!

[daring meteor]

Except Robert strikes at any day he wants

Usually saturday

But any day

[zinc dew]

I have four Densha controllers. N64, PS1, Plug-n-play, and Switch.

[daring meteor]

Train

[zinc dew]

[vagrant ivy]

I just ahve the PS1

but do you have the Pocket watch

[deft tree]

i should get a PS1 one

[zinc dew]

That’s then best option, really. Considering the games available.

[cerulean elk]

Send me that plug and play. I need it. And you owe me

I keep you honest around here 🤣

[mild ether]

Die Hard prototype gets in game now and seems "playable"

[cerulean elk]

I’ll put a portion in the video. “This video sponsored by @zinc dew “ 🤷🏻‍♂️

[carmine kettle]

you got all the goods

[elfin relic]

can't wait till december when zuiki will bless us with a ... 720p p&p for densha de go shinkansen ex

https://www.zuiki.co.jp/denshadegoPP2/

look at dat bewt

[zinc dew]

AKA impulse buying problems

[vagrant ivy]

Seiko made the Densha de Go watch for the 20th anniversary but I cant find a pic

[cerulean elk]

You really need to control yourself. I am a man of steel will who never collects things that he doesn’t need…

[zinc dew]

Honestly it’s the MiSTer + SMAC that ruined me. I stopped buying retro games but now thanks to SNAC I buy controllers.

[zinc dew]

Yah I’m very excited. Never played or used a Shinkansen Densha.

[elfin relic]

SMAC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/871525533597442068.webp?size=64

[cerulean elk]

MiSTer has not curved my habits. Mostly because my habit is wholly arcade lately

[devout leaf]

Same. Playing NES or Genesis with a modern controller feels weird.

[lone geyser]

Super Mario All Ctars

[vagrant ivy]

Only the postage costs from the USA stop me spending a fortune at MrAddons

I want his new toy

[cerulean elk]

I need to sit down and figure out my controller adapter idea. Select chips and start doing a PCB

[lone geyser]

I pass by most of residential Idaho on a fairly regular basis. Have often thought it would be nice to visit the MiSTerAddons pop-up shop that doesn't exist

[cerulean elk]

I want a USB controller to analog breakout board. With digital. So I can pull signals off a standard analog controller (triggers and buttons) then steal the signals bare wire for arcade racing boards

So many usb to breakout adapters out there for DIGITAL, not a one dedicated to analog

[robust trout]

Anybody else just listen to Mario sleep all day in the test core?

[lone geyser]

Oh no. It's like mt32-pi Monkey Island all over again

[mild ether]

Completely new error for Vivid Dolls and just a black screen e0040 instead of e0004. Progress is happening!!

[vagrant ivy]

You do know if that you really want badly digitised porn there is a whole internet out there

[cerulean elk]

Speaking of not making stupid purchases

I have all the games as US region complete in box. So I thought I should have the Japanese region ones

[mild ether]

You aren't referring to the excellent Qix clone Vivid Dolls are you?

[vagrant ivy]

yes

[mild ether]

Best game on the hardware.

[vagrant ivy]

so your deep obcesssion says

[mild ether]

Name a better Qix clone on N64 hardware.

[vagrant ivy]

well since there are none

but then again Aleck isnt baseline N64

[worn delta]

Do you have the Denshe De Go controller Robby? Does your SNAC board have enough controller ports to try it out if so?

I sadly can't find the image I took of mates round mine having a boozy night playing Denshe To Go! On my N64, it was really good fun. The controller really makes that game

[vagrant ivy]

he is using the Reflex adaptor from MrAddons

[hearty oar]

In the video he posted above that’s definitely the SNAX, reflex has a little screen on it

[mild ether]

Famista 64 is pretty playable. This is great.

[zinc dew]

It works on SNAX. Well in my limited Mario Kart 64 testing lol. It performed the same and had the same issues on real hardware with actual game cart versus SNAX.

[pallid falcon]

I'm catching up with the chat. It works well, I had no problems when I played it earlier today.

[dusty tusk]

Nice

[worn delta]

I am curious how the prototypes are looking, I haven't tested any of those yet (not sure anyone has) I think there are only about 23 in the folder if I remember. Will have a look at those this week if nobody beats me to it

[mild ether]

Tried Die Hard and it loaded up and got into level but froze after a bit of play. looked decent.

No Dinosaur Planet.

[uncut gyro]

There’s only 6 or 7 boxed software products I’ve kept over the years. Bleem is one of them 🙂

[random portal]

you YC'd the N64 core?

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-25866484

[weary palm]

Come on, commit already. https://github.com/MikeS11/Mister64

[bitter fjord]

hum... I dumped the PIF ROM from my Japanese NUS-02 N64 but I can't get the latest build of the n64 core to run

MD-5: 943B9DCCFD7A9BCFDA89EBED7DF7C051

renamed it as boot.rom

not sure what I am doing wrong

ok, I have too much data in my dump, I left the whole 32KiB in there

[snow mulch]

got mario kart running.
Set up controls. Joystick works. To pick the character. When in game can't control the kart. Just regular buttons work. left c stick buttons layout works.
Using ps2 controller on blister

[bitter fjord]

keeping the first 0x800 works but then mario64 crashes :/

[mild ether]

Gotta patch sm64 to skip the face that uses TLB.

[bitter fjord]

32,768 bytes

how much am I supposed to keep off of it?

[weary palm]

it's supposed to be 1984 bytes long

and the md5sum of an jp/us PIF should be 5c124e7948ada85da603a522782940d0

[bitter fjord]

not 2048 bytes? ok

ok

so 0x7C0 then

[mild ether]

Probably should just use the Aleck 64 PIF that is easily found.

[weary palm]

correct

[bitter fjord]

ok, I truncated it and it matches your md5 now

[weary palm]

if you can dump your own PIF it's even better. 😉

[bitter fjord]

that's what I did

I couldn't find it online so I just dumped mine

[weary palm]

yeah, i'm answering @mild ether

[bitter fjord]

cause I am lazy and I have a n64

oh! ok

[weary palm]

congrats on not being a filthy pirate 😉

[bitter fjord]

lol

[mild ether]

That definitely isn't the lazy way!

[bitter fjord]

didn't find it there for some reason

[weary palm]

now go download the complete No-Intro set or something... ;P

[daring meteor]

which includes the pif guys

[worldly quartz]

That's using a corio, so digital only

[bitter fjord]

Welp, Mario64 still crashes

[daring meteor]

Oh that's normal

[bitter fjord]

after the logo

[daring meteor]

Test Mario Kart

[bitter fjord]

ah! ok

[weary palm]

you need to patch SM64

[mild ether]

Gotta patch it.

[weary palm]

because it uses an unimplemented feature.

[amber saffron]

Playing with faceless mario is better anyway

[native mesa]

What is this

[mild ether]

I imagine a lot of people are starting with the everdrive set like I did. I just pulled the SD card from my everdrive and copied it over.

So no PIFs to start with.

[weary palm]

The only console I own a flashcart to is the GBA. 😉

[native mesa]

Wait the in game Mario face uses TLB too?

I thought it was just stretchy Mario face

[mild ether]

It's not a super quick find for the PIF files except the Aleck 64.

[weary palm]

No

It's just the stretchy face

[thick terrace]

I turned scanlines on and some games look better, lol

[native mesa]

If you have a CRT they are there automatically

[weary palm]

Don't forget to smear Vaseline on your screen for that N64 authenticity.

[zinc dew]

lol true

[mild ether]

Or 480i.

[amber saffron]

I had a slot shadow mask CRT, no visible scanlines 😮

[bitter fjord]

that's why I love my n64digital, at least you can use deblur on it. It still looks like crap, but it's as good as it's ever gonna get on real hardware

[native mesa]

You can remove dedither with hex edits on roms

And antialiasing

[bitter fjord]

that's not the same feature

there are 2 different filters

[worldly quartz]

That's partial only

Blur is hw and sw

[bitter fjord]

the IPS patches only remove the first phase filter

[mild ether]

"features"

[native mesa]

I know, removing just blur isn't 'the best it will look' is all I'm saying

[worldly quartz]

I'm just glad on mister, i can always use 240p on crt

[native mesa]

It will be nice to disable dithering on this core

[bitter fjord]

in fact games look worse when patched because first phase is what masks the dithering, while second phase masks the pixels

[weary palm]

I have nothing against the antialiasing the N64 does.

But the last stage blurring. Yuck.

[bitter fjord]

not happening, you'd need to render at 24 bits and there isn't enough bandwidth for that

[native mesa]

There already is sans dither on the core

[weary palm]

I don't get why they added that. To lessen composite flickering perhaps.

[bitter fjord]

no, it doesn't render the filter

it doesn't remove the dithering

[native mesa]

There is no dithering currently

Also no dedither

And no AA

[bitter fjord]

you can't remove the dithering without rendering at a higher bitrate

[native mesa]

Lol

[weary palm]

Textures can be dithered, though

[mild ether]

It doesn't look that horrible on a CRT but it's absolute dog**** on a digital display.

[native mesa]

Dithering is not color banding

[bitter fjord]

you are confusing the filter that masks the dithering and dithering itself

[native mesa]

No I'm not

[bitter fjord]

if you remove dithering all you'll get is color banding

because the bitrate is too low

[native mesa]

Yes

These are the words I'm saying

[bitter fjord]

well then there is no point because it'll look worse

[native mesa]

The core currently doesn't have any dithering. Theres no apparent color banding

[weary palm]

dithering ups the colors at the cost of detail.

[snow mulch]

can't get the kart to move in mario kart. Menu's can pick the character.
Still a issue?

[amber saffron]

it works for me

first track plays perfectly too

[bitter fjord]

worked when I tried it

[languid dune]

Works for me as well.

[weary palm]

Works fine for me.

[cerulean elk]

Rebind your analog in main mister OS

[bitter fjord]

arguably for 5 minutes because I didn't have a N64 controller connected and didn't wanna remap buttons

[cerulean elk]

I had this issue. I went back to the main menu, rebound the controller, then went back in and rebound the controller in the 64 core

Solved that issue

[snow mulch]

still.
Using blister with ps2 adapter.

[amber saffron]

2nd track I couldnt see the ground, so that was tough, but 1st was great

[languid dune]

Will do! Even though it already works for me.

[bitter fjord]

I think I will end up purchasing one of those 8bitdo n64 controller mod kits

[weary palm]

Those seems cool

[amber saffron]

will it still work with the n64 if I use the mod? or does that remove n64 compatability?

[bitter fjord]

you'll need a Bluetooth adapter

[amber saffron]

yeah sweet, that works

[cerulean elk]

Lol. Nailed it

[bitter fjord]

like blueretro

[amber saffron]

I just looked it up, comes with a replacement analog (hall effect) too, which is great.

All the analogs on my n64 pads are various degrees of broken, which I think all original N64 analog sticks are.

[mild ether]

I don't know if I just got lucky but I bought one of those cheap Chinese n64 controllers and it's perfectly fine.

[amber saffron]

yeah mine are first run controllers and they'd all been used heavily by teenage me + friends 😛

so .. yeah they're trashed

[mild ether]

That'll do it

[amber saffron]

now 20 years or so on, I'll repair them hooray

I think one of my dirtbag friends must have swapped a controller out on me though, when I unboxed everything recently my gold controller was gone, replaced by a transparent purple one.

[native mesa]

@bitter fjord you can see here all the dither modes with and without dedither. https://mattpierce.info/n64-dither

This one is what no dithering and no dedithering looks like albeit it still has AA and texture filtering.

[orchid nimbus]

Someone needs to read a certain FAQ where months of knowledge have been condensed into a easy to read 5 minute distraction - it even included patches and other info! OMG

[bitter fjord]

well, sorry I just tried the core for a few minutes, I didn't even know a FAQ was made available

[orchid nimbus]

I know - it’s part of the 5 month knowledge lol

And my marketing budget is limited

[compact depot]

Hey @bitter fjord 👋

[bitter fjord]

Hi @compact depot , how have you been?

[weary palm]

nobody reads the internet anymore

[compact depot]

Can’t complain! Yourself?

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/

Now with updater

[bitter fjord]

the usual, work and voltage glitching.... ok, the later may not have been the usual xD

[orchid nimbus]

Thank god it’s not taboo anymore to talk about out voltage glitches

[bitter fjord]

been messing with the vita lately

I dumped the bootrom so I guess I am doing fine 🤡

[orchid nimbus]

Does your have an USB C port yet?

[bitter fjord]

that's on PSTV, but same principle

I didn't want to mod it with usb-C because I built myself a pch1k JIG and if I remove the UDC connector I won't have the right pinouts for service mode on my devices xD

[drowsy junco]

Quite the setup you got there. Reminds me of my senior capstone in college

[bitter fjord]

setup looks like this on pch1k

[orchid nimbus]

I missed out when the ps tv was $50

[bitter fjord]

I repurposed the official cradle into a JIG xD

🤡

[mild ether]

Was your script supposed to download the unstable nightly?

[orchid nimbus]

Yes

[mild ether]

For whatever reason it just renamed MiSTer .MiSTer.old and didn't download anything.

[orchid nimbus]

Eh ….. that’s impossible how I scripted that

It needs to download something

[mild ether]

🤷‍♂️ don't know what happened then. I just clicked on the script and it didn't appear to do anything and next thing I know I try to load a core and no video.

[orchid nimbus]

So the mister rebooted

And you got a black screen?

[mild ether]

Just no video over HDMI so I just went in over the network and just had that renamed MiSTer file.

Just fixed it by putting the nightly in by hand.

[weary palm]

that's strane

[mild ether]

I thought so too.

[orchid nimbus]

If it downloads nightly it sets a reboot flag and auto reboots

[weary palm]

so it shouldn't reboot without a download. strange indeed.

[mild ether]

It didn't reboot after I tried to run the script it just acted like it didn't run so I just went to load the core and HDMI was gone when it loaded.

[weary palm]

ah

so it failed some time after renaming but before downloading

[orchid nimbus]

It doesn’t do anything when an internet connection is not detected

I think it pings google dns

[mild ether]

I dunno, no big deal but thought I would say something just in case someone else has the same thing happen.

[orchid nimbus]

Use at own risk

[mild ether]

Not much of a risk if you know how to do it without a script. Just wanted to test it out.

[orchid nimbus]

Try again - remove the download from /tmp

[weary palm]

why is the current MiSTer executable renamed to unstable_MiSTer.old though? 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

Sorry typing on my phone while driving (I am not behind the wheel)

[weary palm]

yikes

[orchid nimbus]

What script are you looking at?

[weary palm]

yours?
echo "[Action] Backing Up Current MiSter Core to MiSTer.old" mv $rootDir/MiSTer $rootDir/unstable_MiSTer.old

[orchid nimbus]

Hmm

[snow mulch]

I think it's the blister set up.
Needs to be more implemented. maybe llpa, snak implementation would help. when in game sticks wouldn't work.
Switch controller worked fine after setting it up.

[orchid nimbus]

Will check later when I am home

Which can take a while

[weary palm]

And i'm not sure it's a good idea to overwrite unstable_MiSTer.old every time tbh

[orchid nimbus]

Why not? 🙂

[weary palm]

dunno. just not my style. xD

[orchid nimbus]

What would you do - keep a nice collection of old obsolete files on your SD card?

[snow mulch]

they should allow for option 2 mister file. For testers.
Update all always over rights the main one.
Like how there is option 2 for configureation settings. Even option 3.

[orchid nimbus]

Ok that’s it - the unstable is going behind the exit again

[weary palm]

nah, I think I would only make a backup of old if there isn't one.

[amber saffron]

is unstable required for the n64 core?

[weary palm]

but it doesn't matter

[drowsy junco]

Yes

[amber saffron]

imo leave it in then