Nintendo 64

[chilly ember]

https://vampier.net/N64/

[trim seal]

Ah, memories.

[mossy needle]

I put the right bios in the games folder, the thing from vampier, the rbf file and the games in the right place, when I load a game that is known to work it goes to black screen

I put the new unstable mister as well

[chilly ember]

Did you get the txt file?

[mossy needle]

Yes

Also in the n64 games file

[chilly ember]

Hmm not sure, i know some people have had issues but i don't want to claim to be the expert

Some games you have to set the cic

[mossy needle]

Wait I might be dumb. I definitely mixed and matched things between the sd card and ssd

[chilly ember]

http://micro-64.com/database/gamecic.shtml

[mossy needle]

Let me get them all on sd

[chilly ember]

Less points of failure

Good idea

[mossy needle]

I forget this is still on like pre pre pre alpha

[chilly ember]

Yea but you can still finish super mario 64 with glitches with the no face hack. There are patches now that have all the levels unlocked tho

In the pins if you want that

[mossy needle]

I saw that! It's absolutely amazing how fast this core has been moving

[chilly ember]

Its pretty impressive

[mossy needle]

Mister has kinda made it easier for me to start consolidating my collection

[random portal]

same, I invested in a Pioneer LaserActive with the Sega Genesis PAC which I later sold to get a MiSTer.

[wanton sun]

really, no. I was testing my usual suspects and other than Bomberman Hero didn't found anything that improved a lot. Of course the channel proves me otherwise. You find everything here within hours

[vapid hawk]

i wish i had an overnight test crew with this kind of enthusiasm at work

[mossy needle]

And I was under the impression retro gaming people didn't care much for the n64

[chilly ember]

Nintendo people tho

[random portal]

N64 was a seller. It's just that in hindsight, it kind of didn't have as many actual heavy hitters unless you ask Nintenbros.

[vapid hawk]

i never really thought that made sense, look how many hdmi mods, flash carts, controllers etc are still getting made for it

[trim seal]

Rampage 2 World Tour - now quite playable. Black frame on the sprites and sound sparkles but you can play it.

[vapid hawk]

someone is spending a lot of money on n64 still to this day

[random portal]

Rampage 2 ~~World ~~ Universal Tour

[trim seal]

Yeah, that one. In my defence I've had 4 hours sleep and not enough coffee.

[mossy needle]

Definitely one of my more expensive consoles with all the controllers and stuff I own next to gamecube

[chilly ember]

N64 was the party 4 player console that alot of people have fond memories for

[mossy needle]

I'm hoping for Snax support if it's not already there so I can use my hori pad

[chilly ember]

It's there, just not offically yet. they're still working out bugs ish

[random portal]

In my defence I've had 4 hours of soberness and not enough sleep.

[trim seal]

That's terrible. Someone get this person a drink, STAT!

[chilly ember]

I'm not sure if anyone that has been testing the core lately has been getting alot of sleep lately anyways

[lament escarp]

So how many render modes do we have now all in all?

[mossy needle]

I'm still getting a black screen when loading mario kart 64 and not sure why

[trim seal]

Latest core and latest unstable main?

[mossy needle]

Yup

[random portal]

super wierd

[trim seal]

Boot rom correct?

[mossy needle]

Yes

[orchid nimbus]

boot rom is 2kb

if it's bigger then LOL

[mossy needle]

Let me check

[chilly ember]

I hear the aleck 64 boot rom works too if there's any issue with that

[orchid nimbus]

I use that too

[chilly ember]

Not what i'm using so i can't say but thats what the word is

[mossy needle]

It's 2kb

[orchid nimbus]

it's even listed in the 4 BIOS sha1s

[random portal]

I didn't get this one

but I saw it referenced a bunch

[trim seal]

Actually forget what I said about sound in Rampage 2 - the sparkles were my power supply cable laying across some other cables it shouldn't have been. Sound is great

[chilly ember]

It's the easier one to find

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64

[mossy needle]

I got the database, the boot.rom, and the games in there

[orchid nimbus]

you're the 2nd one who claims they have done everything right

[random portal]

OH

did you get the unstable MiSTer main?

[chilly ember]

only the second?

[mossy needle]

Yeah I got it

I'm sure I messed something up

[orchid nimbus]

I wouldn't be surprised 😄 lol

[random portal]

delete all N64 related files

[mossy needle]

So just redo everything?

[trim seal]

Transferred the bios and text files as binary files?

And game folder with the bios is "N64"?

[orchid nimbus]

not the roms

[random portal]

• make a folder called N64 in the games folder
• in the N64 folder place the boot.rom and the N64-database.txt

[orchid nimbus]

N64-database.txt case sensitive)

as per my absolutely cool FAQ

some even say it's the best n64 FAQ out there

I made a perfect FAQ

😄

[chilly ember]

Some say it's the only FAQ out there

[random portal]

you can lay out the game ROMs in the same folder as the boot.rom and N64-database.txt

[random portal]

some weren't even aware there were any other FAQ out there

[orchid nimbus]

I read everything in a Trump voice 😄

[mossy needle]

Cue the finger wagging

[orchid nimbus]

sorry gifs are not allowed en mass - and I did a lot already today

so I post them and remove them

keeps the chat clean

[mossy needle]

Let's not turn this into the Tetris discord

[orchid nimbus]

let's not

[chilly ember]

That's the way, only the people who are around get to enjoy them for the moment

[mossy needle]

I can say I was there

[orchid nimbus]

@mossy needle see DM

[ripe prism]

God those are so cool

[orchid nimbus]

@random portal should have invested in an MSX LaserDisc

those things are worth quite a lot these days

[mossy needle]

I see what happened

The boot.rom file was a .bin file that I thought would change after accidentally naming it .bin. little did I know there are no takebacksies

[orchid nimbus]

@mossy needle you're fired

that's just unexcusable

happy gaming 😄

[mossy needle]

Thems the breaks I guess

Thank you!

[trim seal]

Huzzah!

[orchid nimbus]

good now you can patreon me

but first FGPAZumSpass

link is in the FAQ

😄

[mossy needle]

Sweet am I being billed per word?

I'm just kidding

[orchid nimbus]

per month

also: I can't do patreon as per my companies guidelines

very strict external income guidelines

and even if I could I would not

[mossy needle]

Will a shady Duffle bag of cash with blood on it work?

[orchid nimbus]

bags of blood .... are prefered

[mossy needle]

Don't worry about how

[orchid nimbus]

anyway falling asleep here - been a long day

laterz

[trim seal]

Flying Dragon isn't perfect but it's surprisingly playable

Toodles

[mossy needle]

Get out of here and sleep

Banjo Kazooie is kind of like a text adventure with no choices

Which is not uninteresting

[random portal]

The only collectathon I beat to climax was Conker's Bad Fur Day. Even when I was a kid, I could not understand the appeal of Mario 64, Bajo, and Donkey Kong. ||same goes for Spyro and Crash, but I like those games for other reasons.||

[chilly ember]

Collect all the things

Conkers bad fur day is kinda barely a collectathon

You can get all the money but you dont NEED all the money

[chilly ember]

Spyro and crash were never games I 100%. I never even finished banjo tooie before. The worst for too many collectibles is donkey kong 64

Banjo tooie over did it with the hub world

[random portal]

Conker's single player was just a hub world

[chilly ember]

Basically

[random portal]

the best parts were isolated levels 😆

[chilly ember]

But i still love it

Matrix scene i still never will get sick of even. Product of its time

https://youtu.be/Qa9NATrhmac?si=0OtxptjsMDsUd7jI

[random portal]

yeah the humor still hits me, but I understand it differently as I get older

[mossy needle]

I'm a sucker for the n64 Era collectathons

I've definitely spent time getting 101% many times on dk64

[chilly ember]

Yea of course, i got it as 7th birthday gift and it got better with age

[mossy needle]

The great mighty poo is one of the best arias or the era

[chilly ember]

The game script/story was inspired by south park of the era

It's all so crude

Hate the xbox remake mainly because conker only has one sub machine gun in the matrix scene

[mossy needle]

And it was censored more than the n64 version too

[random portal]

is this a deliberate fact? I thought it was just a product of the time because even Scream was a parody of horror movies and it came out around the same time.

[chilly ember]

https://youtu.be/z0_M268fZj4?t=125

[mossy needle]

The Xbox version censored more of the language

[chilly ember]

Yes it did

[mossy needle]

Which was dumb since xbox was the cool kids console

With Halo and stuff

[chilly ember]

I wanna say it's a fact. Parody movies were just a product of the era too, i wouldn't consider scream was the sole inspiration

They were working on a conker 2 but microsoft had them remake the first instead

Shame

[random portal]

Coker's Bad Fur Day: Live & Reloaded was basically a frat boy reliving his frat years. I cannot.

[mossy needle]

And then Rare was sent to the gallows of Grabbed by the Goulies and Kinect games

[random portal]

remember, it wasn't the same Rare

[mossy needle]

I know alot of those guys went to other things

[chilly ember]

I finished live and reloaded once. Never went back

[mossy needle]

I think I beat it first in Xbox and then went back to play it on n64 years later

[random portal]

I'm very happy TimeSplitters happened after 007 GoldenEye and Perfect Dark (same devs)

[mossy needle]

Yes Timesplitters is an amazing game

[chilly ember]

I still have my copy on n64

(conkers bad fur day)

[trim seal]

Finished a race in first place in Mario Kart with the NSO controller and.....that end-race music is just transportative.

I sold my copy of Conker's for far too little a long time ago to pay for a valentine's gift that I regret, for my then gf.

[mossy needle]

Awww

[random portal]

my friend wanted this game so bad, he bought a repro just to shelf it and show it off.

[chilly ember]

Very ouch

[trim seal]

I have two cart copies now but can't bring myself to spend the cheddar needed for a box.

[mossy needle]

It happens

[trim seal]

/ manual

[mossy needle]

I did the same thing with Fire Emblem on gamecube

[trim seal]

Bugger

I feel your pain.

[mossy needle]

That game can put me though a PhD program now

[chilly ember]

I have the strategy guide still but i borrowed it to a friend at the time and the ripped the fromt cover

Still have the rest.

But still i understand the pain in a way

[mossy needle]

Lending stuff to friends is why I have trust issues

[random portal]

I casually gave my brother a copy of MGS Twin Snakes for GameCube and I told him he has my blessings to sell it if he's ever tight for money. He won't do it cause it means more that I gave it to him.

[trim seal]

It's a universal pain, I think. I reckon a lot of us have a story of loss around our gaming history.

[chilly ember]

That was an early lesson to never lend hahah

[trim seal]

That's lovely.

[mossy needle]

I still think one of my friends stole my copy of paper mario from back in the day

[chilly ember]

I lent my kirby 64 cartridge to someone in grade 5, i stole it back when i was at his house with his sister in grade 9

[trim seal]

Oh yeah, I lost a copy of Thousand Year Door in a house move. Still hoping one day I find it while cleaning, but that's just me kidding myself.

[mossy needle]

That's quite a loss for sure

[random portal]

I lost my Tony Hawk 64 games at a party when I was in 6th grade. People thought the host was loaded with money because there were all of these N64 games just sitting around, some people started pocketing a handful of games including mine.

[chilly ember]

Thats awful 😦

[trim seal]

JFC. That's terrible.

[random portal]

they had the characters and videos unlocked

[mossy needle]

One of those parties

[fast swan]

Fooling around with RE2 I make it to the title menu then crash looking forward to the future of this core!😁

[mossy needle]

Ooo

[random portal]

guess the game. I was busy chatting here I forgot to move onto the next game

[trim seal]

Earthworm Jim 3D is a graphical mess, but it's a charming one.

[mossy needle]

I got All star tennis 99 to work pretty well

[ripe prism]

Haven’t seen it mentioned yet but will this core cover the 64DD or is that a whole different project?

[mossy needle]

That's a good question

[chilly ember]

I heard simcity works

[random portal]

even though I have zero experience working on a core, the first thing I ask myself when I wonder about stuff like this is whether the hardware is well documented or if the core developer would need to trace the schematics to pull it off.

[ripe prism]

Would be cool to check out the Mario artist games and fzero

[hot spoke]

Most DD games work on a N64 with Expansion Pack and Everdrive 64 X7 so chances are they will work on the N64 core too

[mossy needle]

@random portal looks like a sonic game but obviously not

[ripe prism]

Oh shit never knew that

So did the Dd just make more storage space and nothing more?

[hot spoke]

They are modified ROMs though. Still working.

[ripe prism]

I’m happy as long as they’re playable and accurate

Fzero had the coolest expansion

[chilly ember]

Robert's used info from emulators and even talked to the project 64 dev recently

[ripe prism]

Isn’t doshin the giant a popular one?

[trim seal]

Holy Magic Century is going in game, even though that-which-shall-not-be-named isn't.

[ripe prism]

I’m looking at the 10 game list

[hot spoke]

That's the only game a played on my 64DD every now and then. Sold it a few years ago though since the games started working on the Everdrive X7

[ripe prism]

Crazy seeing all the almosts on the DD

Depressing seeing stuff that never made it to the public

[chilly ember]

I'm still rocking my Everdrive before the switched to x naming format

[random portal]

F-Zero is probably 99% the target demographic for modern N64 fans

[hot spoke]

I hade a V2 too for many years but I hated that I needed to reset to save

[chilly ember]

I hate it too but i got used to it

except the time i beat resident evil two in a sitting and forgot to hit the reset button

[trim seal]

Glover is untextured and a slideshow at times, but does technically go in game

[mossy needle]

I remember seeing a 64DD a while back for only $200 and am kinda kicking myself for not getting it

[random portal]

off topic: F-Zero on SNES has a homebrew/romhack that combines F-Zero and BS F-Zero into one game.

[ripe prism]

What’s bs?

[random portal]

BS refers to the Satellaview SNES

[ripe prism]

Satela view stuff?

Hell yeah guessed right

Was going through a bit of those games

[random portal]

I actually don't know what BS stands for

[ripe prism]

Anything missing in the BS history?

[chilly ember]

Bad quality photo. 2012

[mossy needle]

That's an og everdrive

[trim seal]

Broadcast Satellite

[ripe prism]

Wasn’t it they can only preserve off what’s still loaded in cartridges

[random portal]

if you load up a naked BS ROM, it heavily resembles Earthbound. Lot's of space for implications and imagination.

[trim seal]

Well, Broadcast Satellaview.

[ripe prism]

Reading about the BS and sad I’ll never experience that live

Radio broadcasts along with the games

[chilly ember]

Rip the lost voice lines for zelda satellaview

I wouldn't understand them but it still sucks

[random portal]

Sega Genesis also had something similar

[chilly ember]

Sega channel yea

[random portal]

||sorry for off-topic'ing again||

[ripe prism]

That one looked cool as hell

[random portal]

someone made a homebrew intended to replicate Sega Channel

[ripe prism]

Didn’t sega channel do online football or something? Or just downloading games

[trim seal]

You can play a little of Asteroids Hyper 64 before it hangs.

[chilly ember]

There's a zelda 64 hack that brings back alot of beta elements that will hopefully release in a completed state

https://youtu.be/Qu3NYQiCbAo?si=eq6MFZVz9HEZwXZu

[ripe prism]

Any highlights?

[chilly ember]

The whole trailer

I have no idea. There's a demo out there for it but i haven't tried it yet

[ripe prism]

Is it new levels? Just watched it

Never got into Zelda so I’m missing out, hopefully the mister core pushes me

[chilly ember]

Beta element inspired hack so very much different

I finished ocarina of time a few times, one of those games you have to finish to be a true n64 fan

[ripe prism]

Nah you just need some fun multiplayer

Mario kart and goldeneye, never got Mario party

[chilly ember]

Yea maybe but i still highly recommend it if you want a good story on n64

one of the best even compared to today's standards

[ripe prism]

I played it a little but never got hooked

I’m way more casual

[fast swan]

Looking forward to playing more Legend of Zelda I have Majora's Mask but never played it

[chilly ember]

One of those games that get better, the more you know about it

[ripe prism]

I tried Kirby 64 on my switch and it seems kinda meh

[chilly ember]

running around not knowing what to do isn't fun

[ripe prism]

Not as kinetic as snes

[mossy needle]

Kirby 64 was fun as a kid

But kinda boring now

[ripe prism]

Impressive graphics but empty

[fast swan]

I enjoy Kirby games never played 64

[mossy needle]

I remember playing the mini games more than the main game

[chilly ember]

Kirby n64 is cool for its combined power ups tho

I miss that in every kirby game

[mossy needle]

Very true! The double bladed laser sword was always my favorite

[chilly ember]

Some of it is so game breaking

Or useless

Like the fridge

[mossy needle]

They were definitely trying things

[chilly ember]

I 100% completed it when i was six and that took alot of trial and error. Its not hard to get through but actually collecting every crystal shard can be frustrating

Without a guide telling you what power up opens what

Which i didn't have. I had gamewinners.com

[languid dune]

Robert was aiming for Mario Kart 64 and ended up Cruis'n instead. 😎

[mossy needle]

Now there is a name I haven't heard in a long time

[chilly ember]

http://www.gamewinners.com/index.html

Yea that's the classic

Wayback machine is the only way now

[languid dune]

Me and that machine go way back. Good times.

[mossy needle]

Online text walkthroughs saved so much frustration

[chilly ember]

Sometimes

Or there was weird rumors there that didn't exist :p

[mossy needle]

And created new frustration when the person creating the walkthrough was wrong or couldn't correctly explain what to do

[chilly ember]

Very painful :p. Kids have it so easy nowadays

[mossy needle]

I spent top long in pokemon trying to get Mew behind that truck in Vermillion

Too long*

[chilly ember]

That damn truck. There are rom hacks now that let you get mew from that truck

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6319/

Still kinda on topic, Pokemon stadium has the transfer pack to play pokemon red

[mossy needle]

Oh thats right

I got stadium 2 to run for a sec until it froze

Hopefully soon we'll be able to play these games without so many graphical glitches

[chilly ember]

I'm not worried about how long it takes, as long as i get my conker's bad fur day matrix scene

[weary palm]

Collecting stuff in DK64 is fun.

Pokemon is quite the collectathon too.

[chilly ember]

I've never finished a pokedex

[chilly ember]

You aren't irritated by the constant character switching on dk64?

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4961/

[weary palm]

Nah.

I hated the last boss though.

Last thing I finished.

[chilly ember]

Doesn't it have an overly long boss phase thing happening? I never finished it so never felt that pain

[final walrus]

that's puyo puyo sun

[bronze tree]

I made a mistake: I played some Tetris 64 and can't get the music out of my head

[random portal]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sweet-hell-yes-pump-it-gif-22136641

I don't even know what I'm testing at the moment 😆

[chilly ember]

Megaman 64 start menu text is showing, in game is silhouette tho except some of the HUD elements

[random portal]

the game starts like this, not surprised haha

[chilly ember]

I've finished Megaman legends on ps1 which is the superior version anyways 🙃

The framerate is so bad in some levels in comparison to ps1, like why Capcom. This is one of the games that could use an overclock feature

[vapid moat]

Banjo-Kazooie showing some text now it seems~

[hollow rune]

Did Robert say what the updates for today's build was? I had heard he already had one finished for release

[remote hatch]

Robert must first release Jaguar core, and 3DO

then some update for the N64 in 2027 😛

[lean spruce]

I had a lot of fun with with Star Wars shadows of the empire this morning, did the first 3 missions

[hollow rune]

Oh I wasn;t trying to put pressure on him. He can take as much time as he wants. I was just recalling something AwBacon said.

[azure thunder]

crusin' usa plays nicely

[remote hatch]

I'm just kidding 😄

it's joke that I write here from time to time , sorry 🙂

I also look forward to each new udpate !

[sly wasp]

I think that was the one he released yesterday evening (6.42pm UK time) ..you can search

 from: fpgazumspass 
``` in the discord to see just his posts.

[silent marten]

My guess if we get a new build today, he will do the transparencies so we will wave goodbye to the black boxes then on the weekend he will do the 2 pass renderer so we get ground textures in sm64 and potentially all the tracks that are black on MK64

[sly wasp]

if one of those (black boxes or 2 pass) is "copy mode" then maybe not: #1096015979055697940 message

on a completely different note, @orchid nimbus it might be worth adding this to question 2 (I can't get VGA or composite out to work) of the faq on your site.
(not sure who to credit for that but I saved it a couple of days ago)

[silent marten]

I wouldn't know if it is but Robert did say he wants MK64 perfect by the end of the year, at this rate it will be end of the week lol

[vapid moat]

Odd, the N64-core displays fine on Trinitron via analog output - unless I'm missing something

[sly wasp]

maybe you have ```
vga_scaler=1

[vapid moat]

Nope, it's not on

[sly wasp]

hmm possibly some other setting then..do you have the analog board or are you doing analogue via hdmi adapter on the digital out board?

[vapid moat]

Analog board

[lament escarp]

I wouldn't be suprised if copy mode was running at the end of the weekend. He always under promises and over delivers

[silent marten]

Yeah because you know we wasn't getting yesterday's build till the weekend...

[sly wasp]

well then your information could help other testers get involved..This is why this community is so awesome: we all pass on good info so we all benefit

[lament escarp]

I think he is having too much fun building and sharing it with us tbh.

[vapid moat]

Hmm - should I share my Mister.ini settings then?

[silent marten]

He does love the community input

[vapid moat]

Give this a try

[silent marten]

He only has so many hours to test what he has implemented so with all the people here that will happily test other things it is really good for him

[sly wasp]

maybe again when someone asks so if there's something confirmed Vampier can add it to his faq.

[sly wasp]

and absolutely wonderful for us as we get to test new (pld) games on N64 on MiSTer ❤️

[silent marten]

This is true

[vapid moat]

I hope to see Banjo-Kazooie come to full form over time and Pokemon Stadium launch

[vapid moat]

Okkay - ping me incase you'll need me with this again-

[inner bronze]

At this rate I will wake up to a fully functioning N64 Core on my birthday in October

Like the Nintendo 64 Kid

[silent marten]

Maybe not fully functioning by this point but maybe mostly functioning but without TLB

[lament escarp]

Hoping for oot&mm fully playable for my vacation in September

[chilly ember]

September is a little early

[silent marten]

Majora's Mask will defo need data cache, you seen it frame drop to like 1 frame every 5 seconds

[chilly ember]

I'm happy with a possible February stable release at best

[hearty python]

I am wondering that the core size just not only growing with features added. Seems that there is also optimization is beeing done already 😁

[silent marten]

And Data Cache will not be implemented till all texture modes are done

[chilly ember]

December is busy for everyone, don't expect work over christmas

Let's be realistic, let's try and not burnout too quick

[silent marten]

Realistically core will be in update_all next summer

[chilly ember]

That's most reasonable

[hearty python]

It’s better to not expect anything. Let’s better Robert to surprise us. 😁

[lament escarp]

That would be for my birthday than ❤️

[chilly ember]

Expect nothing, let rob do what he wants to do.

[lament escarp]

I'm not expecting, just hoping.

[chilly ember]

Hope is strong here, I am strong in this department

[daring meteor]

Texture modes are almost done; We have Render modes now

Texture errors are E4000-7999 and EB000-EFFFF which you don't see that much; E8000 is more common

[oblique remnant]

Guh-huh!

[lament escarp]

There are like 20 in total right? How many modes we got done so far?

[daring meteor]

8

Most of the others are illegal or otherwise rarely used

[silent marten]

What do you mean by "illegal"

[daring meteor]

Undocumented

[silent marten]

Ahhh ok

[daring meteor]

Just IA16 is left of the common modes and it shouldn't affect much

(And Pallete Alpha which will actually affect more but Its not a seperate mode I don't think)

[silent marten]

I also noticed in yesterday's build there are a couple of games that detects the expansion pak but DK64 still doesnt

[silent marten]

This one for transparencies?

[daring meteor]

Yes

[silent marten]

I hope that will happen sooner rather than later

[hearty python]

What’s missing that the carts in mk64 not looking correctly?

[daring meteor]

I think Robert will work on that next

The black box is Pallete Alpha

[silent marten]

Then he will do 2 pass renderer right?

[daring meteor]

I don't think he mentioned it but my haunch is yes

[lament escarp]

Afaik right now ram is pretty much unrestricted, so depending on how the game verifies the expansion pak I guess it could go one way or the other.

[silent marten]

Yeah I know, I think once he has gotten to a point he will do per game research he will look at what DK64 is looking for

[lament escarp]

Dk64 could also start working by itself when proper ram restrictions for 4mb/8mb are implemented.

I need that donkey Kong rap.

[hearty python]

Isn’t there a fixed adress space, where the additional ram is be expected?

I Thought the bios of the n64 handle the expansions

[hot spoke]

is there any visual difference (or improvement) that might be possible with the n64 core on the mister vs the actual real hardware? may nothing can save the N64 completely 😄

[lament escarp]

It's already superior as there is no aa and blur in the core right now 😄

[hot spoke]

i'm really curious about how this core will look when put through something like a retrotink 4k with crt masks

[hearty python]

I am happy with the internal scaler. In my opinion 1080p is enough for the older systems.

[pure ocean]

I like your Mister case. What is it?

[compact depot]

Any clues why OoT doesn't boot?

I get no error codes here

[viral swift]

It's a lab case ... got it from somebody at the university

cant buy it

[safe robin]

that case looks dope!

[viral swift]

There it is

before and after a lot of work

[raw oriole]

Tidy!

[viral swift]

i posted more pics a few days ago

[raw oriole]

That’s after and before, I assume 😄

[viral swift]

yeah 😉

[azure thunder]

I need to get a Bluetooth dongle and use my stadia controller with it

[raw oriole]

How is the Stadia? I’ve got one in a box but haven’t really given it a go for anything more than getting the chrome stick initialised

[azure thunder]

That’s really slick, @viral swift

[raw oriole]

And setting it up for bt

[azure thunder]

@raw oriole you can’t exactly give it a go now, the service shut earlier this year

[raw oriole]

I mean the controller as a controller

[azure thunder]

Oh lol

[raw oriole]

Clumsy use of the noun on my part 🙂

[azure thunder]

You have to download a special firmware to enable Bluetooth

[raw oriole]

Done

[oblique remnant]

Hybrid Heaven certainly has a problem with it too 🙂

[inner bronze]

Oooh. This is nice. Like a mini ITX case but more DIY

[inner bronze]

My preorder controller is clicky as hell. Wouldnt use it just for the noise

[hearty python]

Nice and clean built

[viral swift]

One tiny bt dongle to rule them all 😁

Stadia Controller, N64 nso Controller, etc. Up to 4 sim.

[safe robin]

i had no luck with such a small BT dongle, i switched to one wit an Antenna and since then everything works perfect

maybe the shielding of this case makes it work better than my brick case

[raw oriole]

I use a tiny crappy clone CSR4.0 nub and as long as it’s on the side that faces me and the controllers it manages fine. Doesn’t work round the back, doesn’t work if the wifi nub is next to it 🙂

[inner bronze]

Still prefer the rgeek g60. About the same size.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Hb21ab14763ca434197989f563bd43cf2B/Rgeek-G60-Chassis-Alle-Aluminium-Mini-Case-Htpc-Itx-Power-USB2-0-Desktop-Computer-Met-Voeding.jpg

6cm high, 20-21cm wide?

[cerulean elk]

If you never hear from me again everyone the heat stroke took me 🤣

81 at 6:40 am wtf

[lament escarp]

My mister looks like a rainbow in the dark. in came in an acrylic case.

[safe robin]

Here we also have a Heatwave this Week. Hope its over soon 😅

[vagrant ivy]

81 C is hot. Oh wait you are using a scale based on how many pigs can sit on the head of a pin.

[cerulean elk]

It measures how many eagles you need to combust in a 250 square foot room. 81 currently

[cerulean elk]

It’s the worst. Over tomorrow thankfully

[safe robin]

Here it started on Monday and will end on Sunday, at 01:00am today we still had 82° Fahrenheit 😅 im sleeping while the Fan blows at me since 3 Days

thankfully its not as hot in Germany right now so FPGAZumSpaß doesnt struggle with high heat

[vagrant ivy]

27 C in England where I am. 80 F for you yanks !

[remote hatch]

same in Poland , 27*C 🙂

[hearty python]

28 degree is now in Germany with rain 😂

[lament escarp]

Where I'm in Germany we also reach 33-35 celcius right now, which is around 90 Fahrenheit. Still to hot!

[viral swift]

oh well, if you got a pool its quite nice 🙂

[hearty oar]

Wow, we haven’t seen a day above 20C here for some time…

[lament escarp]

Which part of Germany?

[viral swift]

probably NRW, like the most of us 🤣

[hearty python]

Near border to the NL

[lament escarp]

Aright, I'm all the way down south, so you're luckier

[safe robin]

alright, im from Austria, just did not hear any news about a heatwave in Germany right now here 😄 Friends of mine from Germany told me they dont have high temperatures

[lament escarp]

Let's meet at the border 😄

[safe robin]

Auf ein Bier 🍻

[viral swift]

27°C here in paderborn

cloudy but still very nice

my pool awaits me

[lament escarp]

Bin ich voll dabei 👍

It's supposed to rain here on the weekend, so it'll get cooler.

[viral swift]

darf ich auch? trinke ein alkoholfreies erdinger weissbier 🤣

[lament escarp]

Maybe we should make a n64 festival when the core is finished and invite robert.

[viral swift]

yeah why not

quite interested in his dev background

[hearty python]

So much germans here 😁

[lament escarp]

Or we could just all get plastered. We'll see 😄

[silent marten]

You seen any of his YouTube videos?

[viral swift]

yeah

i am a developer too (c/cpp software only) so i would like to talk to him as a developer

not particularly interested in fgpa dev but he does software too

[hearty python]

Traveled to cologne to visit the gamescom yesterday, was over 28 and feel like 35 degrees.

[lament escarp]

We'll have to import @zinc dew and @cerulean elk for sure though.

[cerulean elk]

They got that nice nationalized healthcare?

[topaz otter]

Robotron 64 is a great port

If you like arcade style games

[silent marten]

Robotron is great

[topaz otter]

Its also nearly impossible to get to the higher stages

I think the midway devs couldnt even do it

[brazen obsidian]

couldn't imagine playing this with C buttons in era, being able to play it now with twin sticks is great

[topaz otter]

Thats the way the arcade original is played i believe, two sticks

[brazen obsidian]

yep yep

[weary palm]

Why have I never heard of this? https://youtu.be/QZrWUTgYRrQ?si=0_qhulY8WzcuZSKE

[silent marten]

I wonder if we will get another build today or if it is just gonna be weekend now

[remote hatch]

weekend is pretty close

I think we can handle it somehow

[cerulean elk]

he better wait till at least 4 😆

[remote hatch]

haha

[cerulean elk]

before he drops the next core and just says "ok its done. I got it finished overnight" and we all look around thinking "this ISNT December"

[lament escarp]

Sure do!

[native mesa]

This is the case I got. I have yet to put it together though.

I also dont have a jammix

[frail jolt]

Does it do user port stuff for SNAC-y-poos

it looks super industrial

[native mesa]

Jammix? I believe so

https://www.jammix.io/

[hot spoke]

Und noch einer mehr

[frail jolt]

OHHHH JAMMIX

[frail jolt]

OOOO its analog

[zinc dew]

I’d be a waste of money unless you want to party lol

[frail jolt]

its all about dual ram now adays

the you ain't cool less you have them dualies

[native mesa]

Meh

I think it's a crutch for bad core devs

[zinc dew]

HAW HAW HAW

[native mesa]

Robert built an N64 in a cave with one RAM

[zinc dew]

I am trolling because there’s no genuine benefit to dual ram at the moment

I guess a half working Jaguar core lol

[frail jolt]

MK gon need that dualies

[vagrant ivy]

Narc needs dual

[native mesa]

Jotego needs to reassess

[zinc dew]

yeah, I guess I should refrain from making dual ram jokes now that it actually has a need

[native mesa]

Or Ill just play MKT on PSX core

[frail jolt]

and if/when moonwalker arcade comes out.. dat gon need dem dare dualies

[vagrant ivy]

Moonwalker is utter shite

Play it in Mame and you will see

[frail jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/shamona-shamone-michael-jackson-cmon-gif-19098334

[vagrant ivy]

its a Meme Game

[silent marten]

😮 it is a great arcade game

[vagrant ivy]

it really isnt

its dreadful

[native mesa]

My basement flooded

Just a bit

But my rug is all wet

[frail jolt]

this sounds like a sad Blink 182 song or something

[silent marten]

Name a better arcade game

[frail jolt]

"the basement is a metaphor for my soul"

[vagrant ivy]

Star wars the original Vector

[silent marten]

OK I will give you that one

[native mesa]

Oh no I'm getting Vitamin B12 flush

[vagrant ivy]

Bubble Bobble

Rainbow ISlands

Track and Field

oh Asteroids, Defender

I could go on !

[frail jolt]

Is there an indie game yet, that is all follow missions followed by missions where you have a crap NPC that follows you that you have to keep safe

sorry not n64 chatter, just a thought

but i feel some indie person can make the worst missions into the best game

[cerulean elk]

aww fuck

sorry to hear

[kind nimbus]

@native mesa sump fail?

Excited for another new build of N64 to take Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey to an even higher level of excellence

[lament escarp]

Thats the plan 😄

[cerulean elk]

please...this is the "lets make Bomberman Hero better" core

[polar raft]

Wizard needs food,
badly

[cerulean elk]

only problem is I cant make Bomberman Hero the meme game for N64 because its just too good

[lament escarp]

Brian 64 is better

[silent marten]

Brian 64 is almost working

[zinc dew]

Yah Quest64 is perfect meme material because there’s shades of a good game in there.

It works because if you had no prior knowledge and play it you can understand someone liking it but also be very confused because it’s not a good game.

[placid quiver]

Hydlide is the meme for Saturn and I don't think there is a good game in there

[cerulean elk]

Brain 64

[zinc dew]

I meme that one and Bug for the Saturn lol. I think the idea for Virtual Hydlide is good. I think that’s the crux of it, you can understand what they were trying to achieve but also understand they failed at it.

And the failure has to be fascinating

For Virtual Hydlide the fascinating aspect is that it looks and runs terribly but still very unique. No other game looks like it.

For Quest 64 the fascination is that it’s a traditional looking RPG for a console that practically has none and it features a compelling battle system.

Another important aspect of meme games, they have to be interesting.

It’s why we meme Quest 64 and not Aidyn Chronicles. That game is just bad, not fun to look at, and just dreadfully boring.

With Quest 64 an innocent bystander can be momentarily fooled into thinking it’s a hidden gem.

Also you need to pepper in ridiculousness too. Perpetuate over the top fanaticism through consistent praise.

The banning of the game’s name cemented it’s meme status here ironically.

[daring meteor]

Pebble Beach Golf Links

[zinc dew]

That’s my MiSTer btw lol

Also my hand and CRT in the sticker above lol

I am genuinely looking forward to playing it again though

[paper orchid]

Personally I liked the questing fantasy RPG that we shall not name 64 when I played it as a kid. It does have an interesting battle system but I agree that it's not a very compelling game to revisit today

That being said, nostalgia is a hell of a drug, so guess who's very happy right now

[cerulean elk]

Virtual Hydlide can’t be bad because it’s ambitious. The developers clearly tried

Which makes it a “flawed game”. Not a bad one

[zinc dew]

you’re a flawed game

[cerulean elk]

IMO “bad games” are games that phoned it in. Zero inspiration, zero ambition, zero overall “attempt”

[cerulean elk]

Your sister/mother/insert person here loves my game

[plush summit]

Modern Zelda walks in

[zinc dew]

yah I can see and agree with that

[marble cargo]

Holy Magic Century and Virtual Hydlide are similar in the sense that they actually have interesting concepts that help make them stand out, but are bogged down by the lackluster execution.

[zinc dew]

I am genuinely fascinated by Virtual Hydlide, I need to make an honest attempt to play it

[orchid nimbus]

talk to Zophar about VH

[cerulean elk]

Like something like Balan Wonderworld…there’s a bad game

Zero inspiration, cut and paste job of stale concepts with no thought on how to progress a genre we’ve had forever

[marble cargo]

I feel bad for Naoto Oshima in particular. He's a great character designer, but his talents were wasted on such a flaccid game.

[cerulean elk]

But Bubsy 3D? It’s a terribly flawed game and it’s not fun…but it’s so early in 3D Platformer history…you can tell they tried

[zinc dew]

I love that game

It offends me on every single level, there is nothing that game does that I enjoy

Which is remarkable to me, so I love it

[paper orchid]

I want to love Balan. It has so much going for it but gameplay is just...not really there

[orchid nimbus]

#1096015979055697940 message that would be this post from @native mesa

[cerulean elk]

It’s like Sonic Frontiers. Holy shit did I get bored with that game after hour three

But I gotta give them credit for doing something new and trying a diff formula

[paper orchid]

What I will give Sonic Frontiers is when it goes, it goes hard

There's some lackluster parts to it but the parts that are enjoyable make me feel like a kid again

[cerulean elk]

The first three hours were fun, exciting, unique and really made it feel like “finally Sega is doing something fresh”…but it just didn’t 100% deliver on that concept for the whole game

[zinc dew]

I enjoyed how they separated the landmass from the gameplay architecture in terms of data streaming. Pretty smart. Also they crafted a silly story to explain away having incongruous gameplay elements and structures around the world, I appreciated that too.

[cerulean elk]

Sonic Lost World is another great example. Not a perfect game but when I played it I was just having straight up fun

[paper orchid]

Right, I do wish the overworld was a lot more...interesting? It's just a lot of dash pads and grinding for the most part, and springs

The cyber stages are great and while the boss battles aren't fantastic, that first one, hoo boy

That's a good fucking track

[zinc dew]

The Wii U one right? I should play it.

[cerulean elk]

So that’s why I really do think Hydlide is not a bad game. The devs tried to do a true open world, procedurally generated RPG ala Dark Souls or Bloodborne in 1995 on notoriously difficult to work with hardware when their main experience was golf games

[zinc dew]

we can separate intent and effort from end result, but I think it’s also great to combine the two, that’s very kind to do so

[cerulean elk]

I’d rather play a failure that tried Vs a game that never tried and is technically better

Like I hate to say it but…God of War: Ragnarok. That just felt phoned in to me. Like the devs were like “fuck we’ve gotta make another one of these”

[zinc dew]

oh trust me, shipping a game is never phoned in

[paper orchid]

I'll agree with this, but more in the sense of "I can respect a game that's trying to do something"

I respect Virtual Hydlide for it's ambition. I hate really don't enjoy playing it and will never revisit it, but I respect it for what it's trying to do

[zinc dew]

I’ve worked on bad games and I’ve worked on games that won GOTY, still had to crunch on both

[cerulean elk]

I feel bad for crunch. Because film set days are 12 hours so it’s basically always crunch

Nothing beats a 10 day shoot, 12 hours a day, plus commute time

[zinc dew]

Geeeeeeez

[cerulean elk]

Then you get a few days with extra hours and suddenly you did 128 hours of work in ten days with no day off

[zinc dew]

I assume making a bad movie also takes a ton of effort too, right?

[cerulean elk]

As much if not more than a good one

My job is the same either way. Usually either DP or AC

Sometimes direct but that’s just short form doc stuff / commercials. I never get to do the big shit on narrative

But speaking of ambitious games…that’s why Killing Time is hands down my fav game of the early 3D generation

Super inspired story, superb use of FMV within a game, personality for days, a fully custom soundtrack that fits the vibe, super interesting character design and ambition to spare

It’s not perfect but damn it I love it

Same reason I can admit Deadly Premonition 1 and 2 are technically janky games that are still some of the best stuff IMO

[frail jolt]

Wait.... you work at a production company

[cerulean elk]

Freelance

[frail jolt]

ahhhh

side hustle?

[cerulean elk]

My last gig was an in house “director of content” where I was doing all the in house film shit. Director of live streaming events / commercials for tv, etc etc

That went tits up when they laid the entire creative dept off and offshored the work…because that’s the life of a creative 🤣

[frail jolt]

i do production as a side job

lol

[cerulean elk]

Nah. I’ve been working in film for 20 years. Started with ski documentaries. Went to commercial work. Then did short form docs for brands. Then more commercials, then taught college, then did director of content shit. Plus YT

[frail jolt]

cheese and rice

nice dude

[cerulean elk]

You may have seen SOMETHING I’ve done on tv. Some KFC commercials awhile back

Or if you have old parents commercials I directed for under desk elliptical machines 😂

[frail jolt]

Ski docs?

[cerulean elk]

Yes. Like skateboard films but for skiing

[frail jolt]

like those DVDs id buy at a ski store

only ski.. never any snowboard ones?

[cerulean elk]

I worked in sports for a long time. Filmmaker then team and brand manager for Burton Snowboards and coached athletes at X Games / Olympics

[frail jolt]

i used to buy snowboard dvds by the boat load when i worked at a skate/snow shop

[cerulean elk]

Only ski

[frail jolt]

ahhhh

never watched ski

[cerulean elk]

I know a lot of those people though

Worked adjacent to them at Burton. I ran two divisions of the company that sponsored skiers. On the creative / manufacturing side. Not the business numbers side

[frail jolt]

nice

[cerulean elk]

Was fun. 2008 financial crisis ruined it lol

[frail jolt]

well.. lets see what the 2026 financial crisis does

[cerulean elk]

No spare money for leisure sports. Entire production companies got wiped out because the money ran dry. Mine included

[frail jolt]

oh that sucks

my dream was to engineer for burton when i was in school as an ME

[cerulean elk]

A half dozen of us (companies that did ski films) went bust. I couldn’t get up enough $$ for another film. My last one cost 500K. Financial crisis hit and I couldn’t get any sponsorships / distribution deals. Wallets shut quick AF

The entire YT thing is just a result of me doing film work that bored the shit out of me so I figured I’d make something I was entertained by

[hollow rune]

I can't imagine trying to fund a smaller movie anymore today. It's not really shareholder friendly

I imagine. I am not like an expert

[cerulean elk]

Finding money as an artist is a constant struggle. That’s why I have a sugar momma

And by that I mean a wife that makes a good salary and works in an industry that is basically recession / offshoring / AI proof

[zinc dew]

Oh nice, I didn’t know Kenji Inafune opened a film studio

[cerulean elk]

Every filmmaker is with someone who DOESNT work in the arts. Two artists should never be allowed to get together

@manic basin will tell you that too lol

[frail jolt]

Its an internal joke.. i only do work for one company - so i made a shirt to look more official when i show up on set

[zinc dew]

I remember Ben Judd, who literally translated Kenji Inafune’s words incorrectly go on Facebook rants cursing journalists for misinterpreting his translation. What an absolute tool.

(he mistranslated Kenji Inafune)

[cerulean elk]

I can’t complain. Sure it’s never easy to be an artist but I’ve been to every continent on the planet that has snow and 30 diff countries on someone else’s money. I’ve seen Olympic opening ceremonies and been at the start house and seen athletes I’ve worked with win medals

Other times I sit at home with two thumbs planted in my ass 🤣

Feast and famine!

[frail jolt]

do you always use on set cams, or do you bring your own stuff -- if so..... what is your camera of choice?

[zinc dew]

I mean can’t you go on trips with two thumbs planted in your ass? Combine the best of both worlds!

[cerulean elk]

Hard to operate a camera

[cerulean elk]

50/50. I can operate basically anything but if I am bringing my camera it’s either an FX6 or FX3

I shoot YT on the FX3 just because it’s quicker to build vs the FX6 and the image quality is par

Most shoots I work on where I don’t bring a camera it’s gonna be RED

Sometimes an Arri

[frail jolt]

<<<rocking a7s3 --- so like the FX3 consumer brother

[cerulean elk]

Nice. Next time you upgrade pop into the FX3 line

Near to price parity but once you get to the Sony professional line you get a diff cust support group that will solve ANYTHING if you have issues

Better and more frequent firmware updates too

[frail jolt]

AHHH yes, there have been many complaints that Sony refuses to udate the aa7s3 fw

it has what i need

i mean, as of this year.. the company i work with wants basically GIFs on their website

so i have to come up with a concept, find location actors, film and edit.. and tell the whole story in less than 10 seconds with no sound

i used to do full on 60s+ commercials

MUCH EASIER

the 10s silent film is hard to tell a story

[cerulean elk]

Always is

[frail jolt]

and i spend HOURS.... just speeding up video, cutting FRAMES off, all to fit in this tiny box

[cerulean elk]

But yeah I did YT because I was bored with my regular work. And I decided I’d make it fun…no scripts, just talk about what entertains me

[frail jolt]

YT is how i got my start

I was a DJ at their brothers bar.... I got my buddy a job at the distro.... he showed them my video(only 1 at the time).. and they liked me

[hollow rune]

How did video games come into your life? That goes to everyone.

[frail jolt]

i did start to do more YT, but.... time

[cerulean elk]

Grew up with them. My dad played arcade games in the 80s

[frail jolt]

I was 3 or 4.. and we had an Atari 2600

[cerulean elk]

He could 1CC dragons lair from memory

[frail jolt]

im 37 almost 38 for reference

[cerulean elk]

38 too

[frail jolt]

my mom flipped the score on pacman when she was pregnant with my sister.. who is 4 years older than me... so we just HAD n atari

[cerulean elk]

I got into collecting shit because as a kid I always wanted every console but obv couldn’t get them. So when I became an “adult” I said “fuck it. Now I can get them all” lol

[frail jolt]

then in 1990... they got me an NES...

the rest.. is history

[frail jolt]

LOL SAME!!!!

[cerulean elk]

Then later I was like “ir sucks some arcade games never got released on consoles. Maybe I should get some”

[frail jolt]

i had a small museum below my tv until i got the MiSTer

[cerulean elk]

And now I’ve got too much arcade shit

[frail jolt]

now.. if i didnt own it as a kid.. and its on the mister... i sell it

but i keep the controllers

[cerulean elk]

I’ll never sell my hardware. I may use MiSTer vs the hardware but I still keep all my shit. I like them as objects

[frail jolt]

cuz.. imo... controllers are the biggest part of any console

[hollow rune]

We are keeping hardware. The software is conly kept if sentimental

[frail jolt]

i just dont have the room.. and was sick of the bowl of speghetti was keeping around either behind my tv or in various boxes

[orchid nimbus]

speghetti .... wtf

[hollow rune]

When we moved to Germany from the US we took it all with and I think it kind of killed a bit of my Dad. I don't think all that stuff would survive being sold if we moved like that again

The MiSTer definitely moved the needle on that

[orchid nimbus]

I moved to the US - left everything behind except my CD collection and some clothes

[cerulean elk]

I’ve got like 25 consoles, probably 75 arcade boards and a couple thousand games chilling out 😂

[hollow rune]

Hello Kitty Dreamcast will always be with us though

and the Wii U

things you can't easily replicate

[little socket]

Cheap and huge housing enables such hording

[orchid nimbus]

in Chicago

[hollow rune]

Yeah Germany doesn't have that

[cerulean elk]

But you’d never know I have that. It’s all behind doors / in cabinets. It’s a very “not visual” collection. I don’t have a game room, etc

[lilac scroll]

I’m close to pulling the trigger on raphnets dual usb n64 adapter but in reading sorg’s notes for other dual adapters of his it might need a custom fix to not be detected as two player 1s. Is anyone else planning to use that adapter or maybe it’s better to get two separate ones?

[orchid nimbus]

@hollow rune depends where you live in Germany

[plush summit]

Post-mortem, the Wii U is the pound for pound champ of consoles

[lilac scroll]

Shipping is a mofo so I want to get the one order right

[orchid nimbus]

they have some really nice freestanding homes 😄

[little socket]

The civilzed parts

[mild ether]

I have six arcade games and my friends told me they will never help me move again so I am stuck here.

[frail jolt]

https://youtu.be/IWcl5cq0oWw?si=aPx-zlWe9mm9uOOu
/
be rough... could i have made it as a YTer if i kept at it (you can get the gist in like 60 seconds)

[little socket]

Where you dont live in the middle of nothing

[frail jolt]

this was my.... 3rd video?

[hollow rune]

If anyone wants a giant CRT and is near Missouri, my dad left one at my grandpa's house

all you have to do is pick it up

[mild ether]

It was a much bigger pain in the ass than I expected.

[hollow rune]

it was really pretty too

or is rather

Composite and RF only

but 2600 looks really pretty on it

[orchid nimbus]

that pattern shows up in a lot of game - probably another RDP mode

best game ever

[mild ether]

Are the letters blank because it doesn't work yet or not turned

[orchid nimbus]

the letters at the bottom are the ones to be picked

they don't show up yet

[kind nimbus]

Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey is playable, but WG3DH 98 freezes as soon as a game starts

[quasi storm]

Guys... It can play the movies in RE2!

Not well, but they play.

[vapid hawk]

is there a new build today already?

[quasi storm]

There have been several, I think.

Oh, today? Not yet.

[kind nimbus]

Fire working 😅

[orchid nimbus]

what the heck is going on here

I went to a fighting match and hockey broke out?

[kind nimbus]

I've been trying to make a fight happen but don't remember how to trigger

[polar raft]

Just received one of these yesterday, but still need to pick up a second controller
I've also been using his dual Wii adapter with MiSTer for NES/SNES classic controllers
1p and 2p work perfectly with that, so I see no reason why the n64 wouldn't either

[kind nimbus]

Q

Can confirm, the best game on N64 is working on the 8/23 test core.

[little socket]

Anyone ran mk trilogy yet?

[lilac scroll]

I think that one is discontinued right, the Wii one? I was any to add two classic controller adapter too but didn’t see a dual one

[mild ether]

Works!

[little socket]

Nice, maybe I will make the journey to the mister side of the room today

[polar raft]

Yes, discontinued for some reason, but does work perfectly if you can find one

[mild ether]

It's totally playable.

[lilac scroll]

I think it needed a custom fix though… https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/issues/74

[little socket]

nice

[orchid nimbus]

OMG!!!! all data!!!

[little socket]

with the non 100% speed it might almost reach umk3 arcade equivalent speed

[orchid nimbus]

Ridge Racer!!! (64)

[mild ether]

Mortal Kombat felt alright to me.

[polar raft]

Didn't realize that work was done behind the scenes back then, but since the fix is VID the issue should be automatically resolved for all Raphnet adapters

[pallid falcon]

Impressive core feature - corruping non-existent save data.

[lone geyser]

So egregious that GF dropped the tagline by the third gen of mainline games

[orchid nimbus]

I can't wait to play the Pickachu game!

[little socket]

Everyone has reptile invisibility now

[orchid nimbus]

has anyone tossed the baby penguin over the edge at Mario64 yet?

[native mesa]

Do memories stored in the brain count as data?

[native mesa]

I made that joke yesterday 😛

[little socket]

well... happens

[frail jolt]

Yes

[little socket]

not enough time for discord and even less so for a console I don't have feelings for

[frail jolt]

its funny how as time progresses.. the theoretical space in our brain grows too

like i remmeber in like 1996 when a 3gb pc was a TON of HDD space.... they were like "the human brain can hold 200gb of data!!!!"

not its like in the petabytes

[mild ether]

I forgot they made Carmageddon game for n64. That was a great franchise they should have kept going with.

[native mesa]

If app data was lost that means DNA too

[frail jolt]

" 2.5 petabytes" is current speculation

what do you get is you have 1 million giga files?

a peta file

[mild ether]

Feels like mine can only store a few gigs and clicks on occasion these days.

[frail jolt]

so when is the moonwalker arcade core coming out again?

(see what i did there)

[cerulean elk]

its wild how things change. My average YT export is 8BG per 10 minute video now

[frail jolt]

i nrought it all the way back around to my original conversation from this morning

[cerulean elk]

I remember getting a 20GB HDD and thinking "this is infinity space"

[neon heron]

Then you started dumping video to it 😆

[frail jolt]

yup.... its crazy.... i remember downloading movies and being fine with like a 700mb file for a 2 hour movie

now im mad if the 1080p render isn't 8+Gb

[little socket]

Looking at the ISSS64 intro I never thought about the ball just being a sprite, though it was an obvious choice back in the polygon starved days

[mild ether]

2.5 pb even seems low for the brain. The amount of things I can remember perfectly from 25 years ago just seems insane if you try to put that in to computer data storage.

It almost seems like a paradox it's possible.

[little socket]

lossy compression helps

[frail jolt]

that is some ballsy export settings.... do you just set your upper limit to infinity? lol -- i think for a 5 minute i was at like 2gb?

i cant find any of my older long videos right meow

i think they are on a backup drive in my basement

[cerulean elk]

I dial the bitrate up to a fixed value depending on genre

[frail jolt]

ill fix you

[cerulean elk]

and I double what is necessary IMO

[frail jolt]

ahhh

[cerulean elk]

to combat YT and their harsh compression

[frail jolt]

so wait.. no variable

thats why

i think i set mine like 23 to 45 or something?

[cerulean elk]

yes. I fix the bitrate

[frail jolt]

i dunno i forgot its been awhile since i did a long form video

the videos i do now.. since they wind up as GIFs... they have to be under 2mb for 15 seconds

[cerulean elk]

bullet hell shmups being the genre with the biggest export sizes due to any codecs inability to compress that much via predictive encoding

[frail jolt]

and then they get crushed again by the website

[cerulean elk]

slow platforms being the smallest of the genres

[frail jolt]

my bitrate has to be at liek 1.2

for the files to work with what im doing right now

[cerulean elk]

I also when shooting in camera for YT do intra so there is no inter frame compression / GOP

[frail jolt]

it SUCKS

a lot of hard work, coloring, yada yada just gets blown away after all the compression

but.. they pay well

so

take my art and sh!t on it if you want after you hand me the check

[quasi storm]

I may need to rethink my vsync options, The ol 64 switches resolutions like it's cool or something.

[cerulean elk]

haha give them what they want

[silent marten]

@worn delta congratulations on becoming a mod 🙂

[manic basin]

My wife used to be a fashion designer. She's a total artist. But she prefers keeping it as a hobby. So she's also smarter than me in that respect.

[cerulean elk]

great. wasn't @zinc dew bad enough? lolol (kidding)

[silent marten]

@cerulean elk trying to start a mod war hahahah

[cerulean elk]

MOD FIGHT

[silent marten]

Lol

[cerulean elk]

my wife has an Art History degree and left art. Also smarter

I continue to bang my head against the wall hoping for new results

[manic basin]

Something something FarCry 3.

[mild ether]

Rayman actually seems to detect if you are using the proper PIF file for NTSC or PAL.

[silent marten]

Now we need a mortal kombat image with Robby and moondandy's profile pics on the pit stage with Round 1 Fight!!!

[mild ether]

Nice warning message.

[cerulean elk]

rendering videos when its 95 out in my office makes me feel like I am forcing my computer to run a mile in the desert

[languid dune]

I will miss my beloved black boxes.

[silent marten]

So keep the current build forever and ever so you will always have black boxes 🙂

But I do get what you mean buddy

[marble cargo]

I think we're getting a little spoiled honestly.

Just let Robert cook.

[languid dune]

Who do you think we are? Monsters!? ......yes I did it.

[silent marten]

We are letting him cook

He is just a high pressure oven rather than a slow cooker xD

[cerulean elk]

let him relax till at least after 4 pm lolol

[languid dune]

Let him relax until Hydlide ships!

[silent marten]

It is 4:47PM in my timezone so technically....

[languid dune]

We all know that American central time zone is the most important time zone though.

[silent marten]

🙂

[cerulean elk]

easy killer

[mild ether]

The whole universe should revolve around central time.

[lament escarp]

It's chicaco time

[mild ether]

It's why it's called central.

[silent marten]

It is still in the past to Britain and Europe

[mild ether]

That's metric time so it doesn't count.

[silent marten]

Lol xD

[languid dune]

Us Americans and our silly old measurment systems.

[little socket]

"Systems"

[celest sierra]

it might be central but is it universal

[mild ether]

That is a strange way to refer to our beloved freedom units.

[vagrant ivy]

England is where Time was Invented

we just let you lot use it too

[native mesa]

If Hawkeye has taught me anything it's that time is a construct

[vagrant ivy]

Time is an Illusion. Lunchtime doubly so

[native mesa]

Should I upgrade my library to h.264

[orchid nimbus]

12" freedom bananas sideways = 1 smelly foot

1 yard is 36 freedom bananas sideways

[vagrant ivy]

You can use a banana as a radiation unit

[orchid nimbus]

yes and potatsium for that matter

Potassium-40 (40K) is a radioactive isotope of potassium which has a long half-life of 1.25 billion years

[vagrant ivy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose

[orchid nimbus]

I knew you were going to use Potasium 😄

[vagrant ivy]

I am reactive !

[orchid nimbus]

oh wait - I'm dumb and I don't know anything about that

[languid dune]

Bananium?

And now I'm craving a banana, but I don't have any. womp womp

[topaz otter]

shame, that rug really tied the room together man

[orchid nimbus]

COME ON MAN!!

[topaz otter]

don't ever smoke banana peels though

[orchid nimbus]

never tried it

[storm void]

Must save a lot of time when shoe shopping though. Easy when every shoe is 1 ft

[celest sierra]

hmmm banana

[paper orchid]

mmmm, banana

[fast swan]

Very awesome controller!

[pure ocean]

Maybe you can remove the banned word then?

[zinc dew]

I am cursed with its use

[topaz otter]

pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis?

[tropic sand]

@orchid nimbus the n64 FAQ is fabulous.. however there are some missing questions...

Q: is the n64 banana controller the best?
Q: is Robert powered by bananas?
😁

[lament escarp]

I just read turok 3 is getting a remaster like 1+2 did. Is there a way to fix the controls in the n64 version or better to get the port?

[weary palm]

I'm not even close to 2.5PB, more like 1.44MB

[orchid nimbus]

A: Yes probably

@tropic sand I added one to the FAQ

[native mesa]

Did anyone find Robert's flashing pixel?

I didn't notice any

[fair stump]

I did notice some text that was flashing a little funny inconsistently but I don't know if that's what he was talking about. And the error code might have been different than he was looking for as well

[tropic sand]

Thanks, Legend...

[wanton sun]

it seems the flickering pixels in mario kart text are something else. If the palette texture mode was really broken, it would have shown up more

and sorry, no build today. I just came home and it's nearly 8 pm here. No further work today, just sleep 🙂

maybe tomorrow the missing texture modes (except YUV and undocumented) , then one of the bigger tasks this weekend

[lean spruce]

Hopefully something cool to test this weekend 🙂

[hasty kayak]

ISS 64 is starting to look promising 🙂

[nova grotto]

Take a good rest man you deserve it

[hasty kayak]

Rest. Its important to recharge ones batteries.

I was about to write RIP Terry Diebold.

[zenith orchid]

It's a good idea to rest now if you can, so you'll be fully rested earlier in the morning. And the momentum of any work you do in your early hours will carry forward to your work day 🙂👍

[daring meteor]

By missing texture modes I guess you mean Alpha Pallete and IA16? Or is there something else I'm missing?

[frail jolt]

Typical @wanton sun - always being lazy, never updating us on anything, keeping us in the dark, "resting"...... this guy

[zinc dew]

Yeah, meant to post it here - #1096636309679919136 message

[frail jolt]

(i was kidding, if no one picked up on that)

[worn delta]

Just incredible how the core has come alive in the past few days

[placid quiver]

What qualifies as a bigger task? All of this seems so monumental

[worn delta]

What are YUV and undocumented textures used for/in?

[zenith orchid]

Oh let the good man sleep 😄

[frail jolt]

yeah.. a hello world FPGA core would be monumental to me... i have 0 idea how to do anything with an FPGA

[wanton sun]

yes these two. need to see which krom testroms exist for them, can be more combinations when looking in detail, e.g. for 16 or 32bit framebuffer

[placid quiver]

Not trying to hound him just a curious question and don't need technical details

[wanton sun]

either copy mode or 2 pass mode or transparency fixes...need to decide what brings the most fun 🙂

[daring meteor]

Alright, fair enough

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun I wish it was as simple as 'don't draw this color' for the black boxes on Mario Kart 🙂 I guess this is an OR operation - then again I don't know anything about the RDP - just wondering why the boxes are black

[placid quiver]

It's all fun!

[daring meteor]

Copy, 2 Pass, Transparency already, hahahaha, and it was me who thought you'll just finish the texture modes this weekend

[frail jolt]

Robert is seriously blowing my mind with the progress and state of this thing..... like id be ok with a spinning N at this point, but wow

[zenith orchid]

Oh I thought datacache would be on the list 😄

[wanton sun]

RDP has plenty of ways to do transparency and semi-transparent stuff,. Some of them work, others don't(bugs) and others are not implemented yet

want to delay datacache until after most RDP work, so we can instantly see in games that something regressed, which could be a bug from the new data cache

[zenith orchid]

could datacache be toggle-able?

[wanton sun]

probably not so easy

[zenith orchid]

got it

Yeah I would rather have texture modes at this point anyway, since dr mario probably won't benefit from datacache 😂

[cerulean elk]

I’m not gonna make it to the video at 4 lol. Heat stroke coming

[zenith orchid]

Blast your AC

[daring meteor]

After do that RDP work, most things that don't require TLB or externeal hardware which include saves should work, right?

[zenith orchid]

by most things do you mean most games? because there are still features that are unimplemented besides RDP

[wanton sun]

plenty of games currently cannot work due do flash, sram or tlb missing

so these are the big topics after rdp

data cache...well it depends. If Some games look great with the RDP then and would be playable with faster CPU, i might do it first

but rdp is still missing A LOT, you would not think that maybe, but i doubt more then 25% of the work is done

(fortunatly most of the required size for the RDP is already in the FPGA)

[daring meteor]

Games crash without Flash/SRAM? Huh, fair

What do you estimate the bulk majority of the leftover 75% of the work is?
Filtering? 2 Pass? Something else?

[wanton sun]

filtering and copy mode need a weird access scheme for the VRAM which i don't fully understand yet. No emulator has to use it, so i need to figure it out myself

LOD function is fully missing, same for fog, dithering

blender more modes, color combiner also

gouraud shading needs subpixel accuracy

the whole YUV stuff

[zenith orchid]

I never noticed dithering in any N64 game because of the blur, and probably the fact that I was using a small CRT that only had a composite and RF input

[daring meteor]

Mostly the second

I'd guess

Haha

Even on my RGB CRT I barely notice it on MD

[marble cargo]

Nintendo 64 games do have dithering, it's just that the anti-aliasing inherent to the hardware masks a lot of it.

[wanton sun]

the video output has a dedither option. So the data is dithered in vram, but deddithered on output, so you don't see the dithering scheme

[zenith orchid]

then it's a brilliant use of dithering

[daring meteor]

Ah, got it

[zenith orchid]

dithering is meant to provide greater color depth, which is certainly more effective if there is a technology to blend it

it's a little strange to me that dither and dedither are in different places

it seems redundant

[wanton sun]

there is a interview with Phil Gossett, one of the main RDP developers, where he talks about some stuff. Mostly short stories, but sometimes he really goes into deep details

[vapid hawk]

the VI does the de-dither all as part of scanout i think? so it never has to actually store the higher color-depth result

[native mesa]

Is he still around? Maybe we can get you in touch

[zenith orchid]

apparently he works in Google now

[wanton sun]

https://youtu.be/enfPVQO8yEI?t=3254

at this time stamp he talks about AA and Dithering (and dedithering) . Warning, very technical

[native mesa]

It's fine Robert you can skip implementing those features

[zenith orchid]

😂

[native mesa]

🙂

[wanton sun]

no way, it's a N64 core, not a PSX core

[native mesa]

Lol

[wanton sun]

really, some texture in Mario64 are just horrible without any filtering

[native mesa]

Yeah I agree

It's apparent in the desert level