Nintendo 64

[carmine kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/wwf-stone-cold-wrestle-mania-nintendo64-nintendo-gif-15883625

[deft tree]

I keep having cabs fall into my lap

[mild ether]

Hope you were wearing a cup.

[cerulean elk]

Need a pretty big cup

[brisk drum]

Is this the official song of MISTer

[carmine kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/bogus-smell-fraud-gif-20641050

[zinc dew]

The Nintendo 64 is pretty good, top 3 Nintendo consoles behind Switch and Wii

[lament escarp]

I think you meant to say wii u

[hearty oar]

Wii U is a top tier console

[inner garden]

but it is missing Iggy’s Wrecking Balls

https://i0.wp.com/throwbackentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/iggys-reckin-balls-06.png?fit=800%2C600&ssl=1

[hearty oar]

Somehow I thought I had missed some meme or something about the koopaling

But no, this is its own amazing thing apparently

[wanton sun]

i would be very surprised if it turned out that this would not work. We already see several games running ingame where mostly some RDP drawing modes are mssing. Timing is "ok" currently and it's still only 65% of the FPGA filled. Accuracy wise...it's unclear how close the accuracy will be. For RDP/RSP and CPU it should be very high, mostly limited by research, maybe slightly lower at some subfeatures(e.g. TLB) due to timing/max clock speed constraints. For Memory...well DDR3 has no safe latency, so it can never be really accurate, but we can make it behave about the same on average when measured e.g. over 1-10 microseconds, which should be fine for all games hopefully. But nothing is safe until we crossed the finished line of course.

[orchid nimbus]

I think we should look at this as several rounds and every round the driver (in this case the core) gets better - we're here to support you and to test the absolute @#&*!#@ out of it 😄

[graceful radish]

Just tested an early SNAC build from blue1 and it works well enough for me to get 1st place in Mario Kart 64 using SNAX. Thanks to all of the testers and contributors 🙂

Developers, let me know if you need hardware for testing

[worldly quartz]

will that snax work with a VRU?

[wanton sun]

wait, @desert crow already has some snac code implemented? with the current mess of my PIF implementation? That's amazing ❤️

[zenith orchid]

TLB is the main thing I have my fingers crossed for. But I find myself wondering how games without 32-bit mode will run. Such as Goldeneye/Perfect Dark, Diddy Kong Racing, Paper Mario, etc

[graceful radish]

Blue is great!

[carmine kettle]

When can we purchase?

[gritty current]

SNAX, SNAC ? ... is there a glossary?

[quaint rune]

Serial native accessory converter

[dreamy kayak]

https://x.com/quest64official/status/1692294963071950852?s=46

Quest 64 Official (@Quest64Official)

https://t.co/aOMuhn0f8z

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Twitter · Aug 17, 2023, 9:58 PM

[native mesa]

Did they use this core to make that ad?

[weary palm]

Can't be; Mario actually has a face.

[cold pollen]

What's the difference for SNAX

[quick arch]

https://misteraddons.com/products/serial-native-accessory-converter-snac
SNAX is an updated version of SNAC that adds support for PSX accessories (ONLY SUPPORTS MY PSX CONTROLLER ADAPTERS) as well as support for NES and SNES dual ports just like the original console. Sega consoles will likely forever be single controller port.

[zinc dew]

Hey my friend, not an issue at all but please try to minimize gif usage in channels focused on cores. Thanks for understanding! 🍻

[zinc dew]

SNAX is effectively the improvement over SNAC. It does everything SNAC does but allows for PSX support (which includes rumble). Basically if you’re getting into SNAC now you want to get the SNAX adapter.

[cold pollen]

Is that just a porkchop thing

[zinc dew]

Correct

[cold pollen]

(the man not the food)

(or both?)

[lament escarp]

Best way to remember: more snax are always better that just one snac.

[zinc dew]

I can’t speak for other vendors but I do know MisterAddons had do a new SNAC adapter for the PSX core due to the voltage and data requirements.

[native mesa]

I'd rather just Bluetooth mod everything

Though I guess multitaps and card readers and stuff that's not an iption

[zinc dew]

Yeah it's up to personal taste. It's really cool just how many controller options there are.

[native mesa]

I'm surprised a cartridge reading protocol isn't being worked on

For this weirdos that want to use original cartridges

Even if it just loads ROM to memory

[mild ether]

Are the snax adapters compatible with bliss box adapters?

I read the website sadly no.

[zinc dew]

I think there's been some interest but there hasn't been much of a development push there. I think a middle-ground solution that's gained some traction has been using NFC to function as a replacement cart reader; i.e. having NFC tokens launch games.

[desert crow]

most are, some are wired different and are incompatible. saturn,psx maybe n64 are different

[native mesa]

I never realized they ripped off the Snickers logo

[mild ether]

Oh so some are. I had no idea SNAC used HDMI adapters also.

[lament escarp]

Still hoping for dualshock1/2 mods from 8bitdo. The new ps1/2 bt reciever gives me hope.

[native mesa]

DS3 is sufficient for me

I prefer is actually

[lament escarp]

I don't like how sensible the analog shoulder buttons are. Same problem with the retrofighters defender.

[native mesa]

I wonder if the should buttons could be modded

[chilly ember]

I don't like the shoulder buttons on ds3 so I use ds4

[zinc dew]

I watched DS9 on TV

[chilly ember]

Less likely to put the controller down and accidently press the shoulder buttons on ds4

[lament escarp]

Still I'd like the option to fine tune them when they're counted as pressed when using them for ps1/2

Maybe an idea for the mister main itself?

[zinc dew]

You mean only consider a specific analog range?

[native mesa]

A sensitivity option?

[lament escarp]

Exactly, if it's a range from 0-100 so you can tell it only to count it from 0-75 and leave 76-100 as not pressed.

[desert crow]

oh and i cheated with n64 snax code, I just used some old code I had to make the controller work. none of the rumble or MC stuff is working with this. It will take some work to rewrite everything as small as possible and get everything working. I doubt many people have the n64 adapters for snax yet so I'm not sure I'll post a build yet.

[zinc dew]

I do if you want me to test! I got the N64 reflex adapter a week or so ago.

Your Saturn build was

[vapid hawk]

how did you already get a reflex adapter?

[cerulean elk]

https://youtu.be/vBJUx7kCEmg

now for the comments when they get the setup wrong lol

[polar raft]

I wish DS3 had lower wired and wireless latency because it's closer to the DS1 for PS1
But I'm using DS4 even though I don't like the form factor because latency is much better

Actually I end up using the PS1 Classic controller most of the time because it's a perfect replica of the digital controller, and the latency is the lowest

[zinc dew]

He very kindly asked if I wanted to help test so that's what I've been doing. Trying to find issues and other things before they go for sale.

[vapid hawk]

jealous

[zinc dew]

Ah I'm sorry. It should be for sale soon. Hopefully we did a good job to find all the issues so you get a wondeful experience.

[wanton sun]

wow preview #6...that's more videos than games being playable 🙂

[cerulean elk]

haha...its hard to keep the numbers straight. Saturn is near to 30

people love the tests. And I bet we have more than 6 games now

[wanton sun]

hopefully i will outpace you soon 😉

[daring meteor]

The true compotition hahahaha

[cerulean elk]

haha take your time...keeping up with you is a job in and of itself @wanton sun 😆

[zinc dew]

It's funny seeing @wanton sun talking to his alt account. I mean there's always a new video with an N64 core update. Who better to talk about it than the man himself?

Wait I can't make those jokes anymore with an orange name. IGNORE MY STUPIDITY

[cerulean elk]

I am both Srg320 and FPGAZumSpass at the same time

[raw oriole]

Amazing!

[zinc dew]

remember when I got a few people believing that? lmao

[raw oriole]

Two handed typing ftw

[wanton sun]

Haha, VGE has so many videos of arcades that i never even heard of a single time in my life, it cannot be me 🙂

[cerulean elk]

I gotta convince you to love arcade games

[vapid hawk]

practically every arcade core that comes out to me is a total surprise

(a nice one)

[zinc dew]

sorry it's a silly joke that started because @cerulean elk had the uncanny knack of making a Saturn video right before a Saturn core update.

he's the core update whisperer

[lament escarp]

Wow didn't know it's all one person. That's amazing!

[deft tree]

I just got a random new arcade cab and sent him a picture of it. He was like "oh yeah, the video for that comes out in december. look out for it"

[cerulean elk]

lol its a terrible skill. Means Ive gotta go redo my work like the day after its released

[cerulean elk]

lol for Weds series I am uploaded through July 2024

[deft tree]

i applaud the discipline

[cerulean elk]

I work as fast at video production as FPGA does at core updates lol

[mild ether]

Wow! Any chance of a crossover episode with Aleck 64 and N64 core in the future?

[cerulean elk]

if Aleck is running I will show it in the future

Aleck is showing signs of life yeah?

[mild ether]

Some of the roms already boot.

Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth shows the most life so far but definitely not playable.

[cerulean elk]

Ill probably do a special episode for Aleck when its ready

[mild ether]

I will be keeping an eye on them each update.

[cerulean elk]

yeah ping me if you find something fun

I need to do an Aleck video. I have one stashed away in my closet

with Tower & Shaft

[mild ether]

Nice!

[cerulean elk]

Ok coffee time...sorely needed

[zinc dew]

What Aleck game do you want to see?

[mild ether]

Super Real Mah-Jong VS for sure because what arcade would complete without a mahjong game or ten?

[zinc dew]

he trolled me

[deft tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ77YkXxV6o

[topaz otter]

witness protection mario kart

[frail jolt]

SNAC and SNAX is essentially the same thing....

But..I prefer the misteraddon snax

It looks cleaner, it has no exposed pcb and the fact everything is modular and you are forced to work with cables

A normal snac goes
User port -> usb jumper(usually) -> snac adapter -> controller

Which means you have a 2 inch usb sticking out of the user port with a cable or 2 attached(for the controllers)

SNAC is user port -> usb hard-drive B Type cable -> snax box -> hdmi style controller adapter -> controller

Snaxs default set up just adds less stress to the user port

I personally like kt way more

[cerulean elk]

Prisoner N64 Mario castle lol. Out breaking rocks with a pick axe

[zinc dew]

The MisterAddons SNAC port is like that too. Has a nice molded plastic case too. I never was a fan of the exposed usb drive style design other SNAC adapters, for those reasons you listed.

[zenith orchid]

even prisoners looked more classy back then

[cerulean elk]

Probably in jail for drinking beer on a Sunday or something similar

[hearty python]

The problem with actual implementations is that there is no right modularity. Cable adapters are cheap, but the handling is terrible. Why no one makes a external box with module slots for easy exchange and always the same space consuming?

[devout leaf]

We’ll time to line up for the N64 SNAX. Still sad I missed the Saturn one.

This development is going insanely fast.

[frail jolt]

I forgot he even sold a SNAC.... go snax or go home imo

Snax does what misteraddon snac doesn't

[zenith orchid]

It is, and at the same time, this is the phase in development where results are most visible. Since he's essentially working on the N64's GPU

[deft tree]

SNAX is basically just a brand name for misteraddon's modular SNAC adapter. I definitely recommend it though if you have interest in SNAC for more than 1 console

[devout leaf]

Also SNAX is you want to play PS1

[zenith orchid]

or 2 player SNES and NES

[deft tree]

if only want PS1 there's actually a few good standalone solutions

[devout leaf]

I’m just saying SNAC doesn’t support PS1

[deft tree]

yes it does

[frail jolt]

There are snac ps1 adapters...butttttttt and multi player adapters...butttttttt

They are just even bigger and chunkier..

The only issue with ps1 SNAX is....no option for memory cart (since the memory card used to the controller port as its io.. they sell psx snac with memory card adapters on the pcb)

[sharp ermine]

Doesnt regular snac support 2p nes and snes?

[devout leaf]

He may need to update his site then.

[sharp ermine]

I coukdve sworn blue1 said it would

[deft tree]

that's referring to his particular SNAC adapter

[frail jolt]

Yes..

[devout leaf]

Yes which is who we’re talking about

[deft tree]

https://ultimatemister.com/product/ultimate-snac-psx/

We are talking about snac in general and I was clarifying SNAX is his brand name

there are several other PS1 snac adapters, PS1 is supported by regular SNAC not just SNAX

[frail jolt]

That's the snes one

[zinc dew]

I imagine you can use a very short USB extension so that’s not hanging off your system, right?

[deft tree]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803697539804.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa i have one of the retrocastle 2P PSX adapters with memory card slots as well as a SNAX

[frail jolt]

Yes..highly reccomended

[zinc dew]

Ok cool, that’s good to know!

[devout leaf]

Cool

That SNES one looks neat

[deft tree]

The retrocastle one is in my cabinet for my lightguns and got it so I could have mem cards before PSX SNAC got support for virtual memcards

and SNAX with almost all the dongles for my regular mister setup

Looking forward to n64 SNAC support since i got my dongle already

gotta upload my pokemans onto the mister

[frail jolt]

Anywho...back to the n64 talk...sorry for the snac snax derailing

[deft tree]

Ya'll gotta start playing GBC Mario Tennis and Mario Golf so you can unlock all the transfer pak content

[zinc dew]

Yah, or cheat with a patch

Which to be clear is cheating and if you use it you should feel very very bad

[pearl tusk]

⭐

[zinc dew]

I knew @deft tree ain’t no cheater!

[deft tree]

still need to get mario golf

[worn delta]

Will Snax be stocked by Nat's UK store?

[frail jolt]

Of course...or maybe...or no

Lol tbh. This core is a toddler..it's barely walking, barely talking...and still needs it's diaper changed

Butttttt...it's moving at an incredible pace...

Saying that blue just developed a snac that should work with this core... time will tell on what the future holds once the core is further along

In short..no one knows..but probably yes if they have had every other snac adapter

[worn delta]

I was meaning Snax in general or if they will be Pork chop exclusives

[thorn flax]

snax is the pork fork

[frail jolt]

Lol

Pork fork is what is used to call.... nvm.. we can keep it kid friendly

[frail jolt]

Ooooo snax..I think pork only sells them exclusively

Misteraddons

[inner bronze]

Didnt Antonio do an extension to SNAC that had 2 port genesis

[frail jolt]

I was about to go to a meeting...and I see blue1 is trying...so I'm going to not attend lol

[thorn flax]

yep

[desert crow]

i think the plan is to have backward compatibility with snax (porkchops 2 port version of snac). then i'll make a 4 port thing for n64 only that people will be able to get.

[thorn flax]

it's interesting, you can use any 2 db15 controllers with it

so, neogeo, general arcade

and of course Mega Drive

[frail jolt]

Someone should pin this so we can hold blue accountable later lol

[desert crow]

n64 works on 3v (like psx) so no level translating.

[thorn flax]

can't wait to see how y'all gonna tackle the Saturn Bomberman 10 player mode

[frail jolt]

Tickler33 is making a snac adapter for this

Everythjngg I just said was completely fabricated

Even the name tickler33 lol

[zinc dew]

@thorn flax why do you have the perfect reaction

[thorn flax]

I hang out in the most dank servers

[inner bronze]

[dire wren]

I am using the latest Mister unstable, n64-cic core, and have the text file in my ssd in the same folder as the N64 games. I can't get anything to load passed maybe 3 seconds if at all. Am I still missing something?

[zinc dew]

Core is just barely loading games. Try Mario Kart 64 and enjoy a single race.

[dire wren]

Right, I know its early stages for sure. Mario Kart 64 for example stalls out at the opening sequence after the rotating Nintendo emblem. I know there is a patch for the game also, and I just use Lunar IPS to patch it but it doesnt load at all as a patched version.

[zinc dew]

Yeah, I’d just wait a while then.

[wanton sun]

mario kart needs no patch, only mario 64

with mario kart, just press A/Start fast when the spinning logo comes

but even then, it hangs random, mostly when a race starts or the next loads

[dire wren]

Oh! Nice, the A/Start got it passed the opening. Thats awesome. Thanks

[mild ether]

Lodgenet version of Mario Kart loads without button spamming.

[wanton sun]

new build later today will have the spinning logo fixed. I could leave it in attract loop for 30 minutes

[lament escarp]

Thats the sped up rsp update then, right? Glad you managed to fix the sound in that case.

[wanton sun]

yes, it was a bug in the rsp pipelining

[lament escarp]

So now a bunch of render modes or something else?

[wanton sun]

rsp is now up to 300% faster with vector instructions. Game still runs mostly at 20fps, CPU needs the datacache

renderer has no change, only a bugfix that removed the random crashes were also the audio hangs with short loops(because rsp is busy forever, waiting for rdp, it cannot do audio processing anymore)

the random crashes where audio is still running fine i could not find/fix yet

[lament escarp]

Sounds good! Don't forget to unwind during the weekend as well! 🙂

[blissful plaza]

This is already excellent news.
Thanks for the continued progress on the core.

[wanton sun]

finally at a state again where the renderer can get some work. Really want to see the game with perspective correction and z-buffer. Probably not both this weekend, but hopefully at least one

will do the texturing when these work, otherwise it's sometimes hard to judge if texture is not applied correct because of wrong texture implementation or because of wrong coordinates(perspective correction) or hidden by other object (z-buffer)

[silent marten]

looking forward to testing new build Robert 🙂

[lament escarp]

So z buffer/perspective correction, render modes, cpu cache, tlb, in that order, more or less. This is so exciting!

[wanton sun]

there are like 15 steps in between cache and tlb, but yes 🙂

[silent marten]

sounds about right Quirrin unless he got some other things he needs to do before TLB

[lament escarp]

Just approximately, I don't understand half of it anyway:)

[cerulean elk]

lol take your time. Maybe like next tuesday is a good day. You know...for video timings 😆

[wanton sun]

just a few other important things(non RDP): flash, sram, PAL mode, rumble, controller pak, rdram masking(4mb/8mb)

[silent marten]

Robert was I mistaken thinking you had added expansion pak?

[wanton sun]

well, the core currently doesn't really limit RDRAM properly. RDP gets up to 32 mbyte, PI gets up to 16, CPU gets up to 8...i have to make this clean

[silent marten]

DK64 doesn't detect expansion pak so was more curious

[lament escarp]

Imagine a n64 with a dozen expansion paks jammed into it.^^

[wanton sun]

it's rather difficult to implement. On most consoles, the ram just wraps...if you write/read behind, you start at the beginning. With N64, you can write behind and it will just vanish and if you read behind, you read zeros

[bronze tree]

what is PI?

[wanton sun]

this would be relativly easy if it was all single accesses, but with burst s it gets more complicated

ROM interface (PI = parallel interface)

it can copy from ROM to RDRAM (also to flash/sram...)

[silent marten]

that makes sense

[lament escarp]

Do you know whats actually up with the rumble on the nso/8bitdo n64 controller? On switch it only rumbles in nso n64 games, on pc I could only get it to rumble in n64 and with better joy as a wrapper. Also doesn't work with the psx cores rumble.

[silent marten]

not sure if rumble pak is implemented yet, we are not at that point at all

also controller definition might need to be added to main for it to work fully

[lament escarp]

I have a feeling it's somehow a different instruction than normal controllers.

[wanton sun]

the NSO switch controller probably needs to be added in the driver...not sure it can even rumble when connected to a PC

could be it's still unknown how it works

[lament escarp]

I only have the 8bitso which mimics the nso. So better joy would know the answer I guess.

[sharp beacon]

I made a custom usb dongle using blueretro Playstation build for BT and an STM32F041 for the USB/Playstation bridge emulating the XBOX360 gamepad, the rumble works, so the protocol is known

[topaz otter]

the ps1 classic controller works on mister pretty well without any configuration

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/PlayStation_Classic_Controller.jpg

its made for hobbit hands but its decent

[visual forge]

Hey guys
Is it supposed to output something over direct video yet?

I get a black screen when I load a rom using the build from aug 16

E047

No sound either, though, maybe it is just crashed

In my games\n64 folder I have boot.rom and n64-database.txt and Mario Kart 64 (U) [!].z64

I also have the updated mister file from the test builds page

[languid dune]

I tip my hat to you.

[languid dune]

Don't jinx it! And don't temp us to troll you in the video's comments!

[cerulean elk]

haha nobody listens to directions

half the time someone asks a question I just say "watch from timecode X to Y...answer is there"

[languid dune]

Every time I see a comment like that, I just think "The prophecy has been fulfilled."

[visual forge]

Anybodyu else got it to work?

[vagrant ivy]

As far as I know the core Is HDMI only

its being developed and so seeing anything is a privilege

[cerulean elk]

man Virtual On 2 is NOT easy

[vagrant ivy]

you know you should only play Quest 6 4 . The core is only for that game

[visual forge]

Test

[vagrant ivy]

Rest

Quest

Best

[visual forge]

Why can't I say Q 64?

[vagrant ivy]

Its banned

hence its my favourite thing to do !

[languid dune]

Because its greatness is too much for this world.

[visual forge]

I unironically like that game quite a bit

[vagrant ivy]

Q U E S T 64 is best !

[visual forge]

One of the few good games for N64

Too bad no other RPGs were made for it

[languid dune]

I does work over HDMI.

[languid dune]

Poor Paper Mario. 😅

[vagrant ivy]

Anything called Mario is sad !!!

[languid dune]

I do love me some Ogre Battle 64. Though it's not really an RPG.

[visual forge]

Holy Magic Century is better than Paper Mario

It's even better than Majora's mask!

It doesn't quite stack up to Ocarina of time, thouygh

[graceful radish]

I think this was already stated but SNAX is an improved version of SNAC with support for PSX. There are 7 pins used for 5V logic (NES, Genesis, etc.) and 7 pins for 3.3V consoles (PSX, N64, etc.). So it will support N64 2P out of the box with the purchase of an N64 adapter which I have in hand for the release of Reflex Adapt (which also supports 2P N64 as a USB device). The idea is to use the HDMI style dongles in as many ways as possible. I’m glad blue1 and Robert have done so much in such a short period of time. 🙂

[zinc dew]

Are you sure? Quest64, no issues here.

[storm void]

If anyone is interested in Demoscene, this demo runs all the way through (and loops) https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=86907, though some scenes are veeery slow

[frail jolt]

Sorry foe the dumb question... the reflex adapt is a low latency usb solution, correct?

[languid dune]

I see that Dark Robby has come out to play today!

[pallid falcon]

I'm waiting for Scooby SNAX so I can play Scooby-Doo on the Speccy the way it should be played.

[whole zinc]

Yes.

[oblique remnant]

Holy Magic Century or Eltale Monsters works for me

[zenith orchid]

With that RSP pipeline fix, SM64: Black Square Edition might be beatable 👍

The lack of z-buffer only adds to the challenge 😄

[cold pollen]

I agree I prefer impractical ones

[graceful radish]

N64 OEM controller is hard to beat. The aftermarket ones somewhat miss the mark, imho. One of the most unique controller experiences, alongside Jaguar, Colecovision, etc.

[zinc dew]

I always thought the controller as a dinosaur foot because of the Mario 64 advertising. It’s not related but it put it in my head the system has strong dinosaur connections lol

[cerulean elk]

This just seems wrong. I’ve always thought of them all as in the turtle family

[zinc dew]

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[wanton sun]

wow that was fast

[cerulean elk]

Anything fun? Not like I’m making another video. Two is enough for one week 🤣

[zenith orchid]

Oh my...

Well, games shouldn't crash as much.. hopefully

Some games might proceed further than before

[wanton sun]

nothing for you to show, mainly fps can be higher and one of (at least) 2 random crashes in mario kart and mario 64 is fixed

[vagrant ivy]

I heard there was a new build where is it ?

[zenith orchid]

Oh! Maybe more stages are available in MK64!

[cerulean elk]

👍 yeah I’m waiting on a “show not tell” update

[zinc dew]

In #test-builds

[wanton sun]

i was able to play until course 4 in mk64 and until ice world in mario64 on my first try, but it might have just been luck

[cerulean elk]

No it’s in Best Tuilds

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun thank you for sharing the latest build here, it’s always wonderful seeing your latest work

[vagrant ivy]

I downloaded it and now My Mister has become self aware and is trying to launch a Nuclear missile What should I do ?

[viral swift]

Nice!

[zinc dew]

ride the missile and don’t drink the water!

[cerulean elk]

And here I have been playing Model 3 games all morning lol. Now I have to do real life stuff

[wanton sun]

when you see the error overlay, this means your video output is working

[wanton sun]

i'm surprised i see so many error overlays in screenshots and videos. It's off by default, so you must be really curious to see those cryptic numbers 😉

[native mesa]

Are the numbers arbitrary or do you just have them increment by one ever new catch you make?

[cerulean elk]

I mean you have an E420. In it for the laughs

[manic basin]

I like how Buck Bumble gives you the first note of the rocking intro.

Just a taste.

[wanton sun]

it's in hex, each of the bits making that number stands for 1 error condition

[zinc dew]

Bless you for immediately checking that game. I don’t even need it to work, just the main menu + theme song is all I need!

[wanton sun]

currently, it just pops up way too often to be helpful for most cases

[native mesa]

https://youtu.be/dxTDdxwzWy0

[wanton sun]

also thanks again to @bronze tree : with the build today and his mister main changes (it's now also officially in the unstable-nightly build from today) you should be able to load all rom formats: v64, n64, N64 and z64.

[orchid nimbus]

Lario

for some reason when I push forward on the C stick the camera control kicks in

and I can only adjust the cam until I move it again

probably patched the wrong version

[pale mural]

Look at that cake.

[orchid nimbus]

this core takes the cake 🙂

[vagrant ivy]

The cake is a lie

[orchid nimbus]

there is no spoon

[languid dune]

September 26th will always be the release date for me! Bless Software Etc. for breaking the date back then!

[cerulean elk]

Mario has always been packing ass heat

Pasta didn’t miss him

[oblique remnant]

Destruction Derby 64 is "playable" 🙂 not sure if thats related to the newest core update

[wanton sun]

more black cars 🙂

[vapid hawk]

i think this is a 20% off coupon for kitsch-bent parts:
https://kitsch-bent.refr.cc/theps1addict

[carmine kettle]

do we need a new unstable mister build for this core?

[languid dune]

Not if you have the one for the previous core.

[opal quiver]

The intro of RE2 is running also now

[blissful plaza]

Mytical Ninja is loading its intro right now.

That's "beautiful".

[languid dune]

Whoa, KI Gold showing the start up animation now. Froze once the K and I come together.

[quick arch]

The second track of MK64 is only black not easy to know where to go 😅

[wanton sun]

3 and 4 have textures again 🙂

[opal quiver]

The song is ok but it’s freezing

[languid dune]

Actually able to get into a match in Mortal Kombat 4 now! All menus are completely black, but once in a match some visuals are present. Audio sounds great.

[manic basin]

If you can play blind, Clayfighter 63 1/3 seems to be pretty stable. Just....sans most graphics. Plenty of lens flair though.

[wanton sun]

oh, so konami games don't all freeze anymore?

[oblique remnant]

nope they pass the logo 🙂 ISS 64 gets into the menu aswell

[orchid nimbus]

good time to get some Castlevania64 going 😄

[graceful radish]

Watching this channel is almost as exciting as getting the N64 promo VHS tape back in the day

[wanton sun]

banjo gets into the new game cutscene, but no graphics, no idea if that is new 🙂

sound is fine

[languid dune]

Kirby is showing signs of life now too!

[quick arch]

yes it is

[blissful plaza]

I can go in-game when passing the intro.

Wave Race goes in-game, but freezes when selecting your watercraft.

Turok, goes in-game too but freezes after 5 seconds.

[silent marten]

Woooo Buck Bumble theme plays!!!!!

[oblique remnant]

I bought those Mags incl. VHS tapes too back then 🙂

[quick arch]

For Majora Mask we see a bit of Nintendo 64 logo

[silent marten]

Core is complete 🙂

[languid dune]

Getting music now in Magical Tetris Challenge.

[wanton sun]

majoras mask you should be able to enter the name and start the new game cutscene, but it's very slow and 2 color mode

[blissful plaza]

No changes on Mischief Makers, nor Ocarina of Time.

[quick arch]

Ok 🙂

[wanton sun]

that was already in last build, however

[silent marten]

@wanton sun didn't have to wait as long as you thought for buck bumble music 🙂

[languid dune]

Wow, Pokemon Puzzle League is looking way better now! Full intro cutscene works.

[silent marten]

Just hit A as soon as the intro starts to play and you will get to the menu 🙂

[viral swift]

Lego Racers

[silent marten]

Tetrisphere goes in game 😮

[pallid falcon]

Looks suitably blocky enough.

[lament escarp]

Never knew you actually play as ash in pussle league. Only had the gbc version as a kid.

[viral swift]

Analogue Output Looks Strange btw

[silent marten]

The 3 best soundtracks now play
Tetrisphere
Buck Bumble
Robotron 64

[thorn flax]

excellent shelf choices.

you can actually fit a SMS model 1 on yours lol

[real void]

Hi all, how can I get access to where the core has been posted to? Cheers

[carmine kettle]

pokemon stadiun its up

[hearty python]

If RSP gets 3 times faster, I ask me what will be with RDP if the cpu cache is there 😁

[lament escarp]

Quake also plays some nice music

[silent marten]

Yeah true

[languid dune]

Able to get audio in Shadowgate 64 now.

[thick terrace]

do I need mister unstable for today's core?

[vagrant ivy]

yes

[languid dune]

Yes, but it's the same one from the last build.

[hasty kayak]

This is just amazing to see 🙂 Robert is an absolute legend.

[wanton sun]

but DK rap 🐒

[vagrant ivy]

Quest 6 4 !

[silent marten]

Make the game detect the expansion pak

Then we will probably have that too

[wanton sun]

given how many troubles this made in emulators, i rather wait a while

[languid dune]

Ha ha, he'll get to it.

[weary palm]

Or patch the rom

To skip the check

[silent marten]

He knows I am joking

[languid dune]

Dang, Wave Race crashes just as I get a race started.

[zinc dew]

Yeah, expect that to not work for the time being.

[wanton sun]

i'm still listing to the buck bumble music, hopefully it hangs up soon

[orchid nimbus]

be happy you got some analogue at all

[silent marten]

Do you not like it or are you testing for crashes?

[languid dune]

Getting music out of Wonder Project J2 now.

[zinc dew]

I love this test.

[wanton sun]

it was funny for 2 minutes, but after 10 minutes....

[zinc dew]

LMAO

[lament escarp]

Bomberman hero intro sequence!

[hearty python]

Sure? Today’s build seems n64 stuff also included

[orchid nimbus]

was already running up to a point

[languid dune]

That was under test builds before. Now it's in unstable nightlies. But it's the same.

[wanton sun]

yes, there should be no change affecting anyone here

[spring niche]

Ah, ilove those LG Oled´s

[thick terrace]

what is "auto detect?"

[manic basin]

40 Winks has a MASSIVE preload time but actually gets into rendering creepy shadow people!

[languid dune]

It's the cic database changing it to the correct number for the game.

[silent marten]

It auto detects information the rom needs, for example which CIC chip the game uses and then yeah what MARl0 said

[lament escarp]

That forsaken 64 music tho

[thick terrace]

"auto detect failed"

[silent marten]

Do you have unstable main?

[languid dune]

Bomberman Hero able to get into gameplay now. Before it showed the intro and you could get through the menus to start things, but it would freeze after that. Just black screen in gameplay though. Audio is nice!

[carmine kettle]

you need unstable build

[silent marten]

And also txt file

[thick terrace]

yeah just put it on

[languid dune]

Did you put the txt file in the games folder?

[silent marten]

Get the n64-database.txt and then ^

[thick terrace]

did they chane name for the file?

[silent marten]

Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 does things now

[quick arch]

Mario Paper have some sound 🙂

[zinc dew]

an improvement over creepy puppet people!

[thick terrace]

n64-database.txt

[manic basin]

Truth. I can get into game and can see some background rendering and shadow rendering.

It's neat.

[silent marten]

Got in a game in Tony Hawk 2 then crash

[orchid nimbus]

Mortal Combat 4 runs without graphics 🙂 nice

[thick terrace]

its in my N64 folder with the games

[silent marten]

This is what it should be yeah

[silent marten]

It has for a couple of builds now

[silent marten]

Did you put games in a sub folder?

Or are they all in games/N64?

[quick arch]

test_cart_runtime_v2

[lament escarp]

Do you guys also get that horrible crunching sound when loading a rom while anothet is already putting out audio?

[languid dune]

Yes

[silent marten]

Yes

[thick terrace]

my games are on a hard drive in a folder called N64

[zinc dew]

❗REMINDER ❗

Make sure to check the pins in this channel for resources on getting this core running on your end.

@orchid nimbus put together this great site, so please read it to know what to do - https://vampier.net/N64/

[orchid nimbus]

☢️ ☣️ OMG THIS!! ☣️ ☢️

[silent marten]

What game(s) are not detected

[thick terrace]

/media/usb0/N64

[languid dune]

Able to get into a race now in Cruis'n World! Only audio though.

[silent marten]

Should be media/usb0/games/N64

[thick terrace]

no it shouldn't.

[silent marten]

Toy Story 2 goes in game with no graphics

[silent marten]

Yes... it should

[thick terrace]

folders off the root, like all other cores

[orchid nimbus]

comes for help knows it better

doesn't need help

next 🙂

[silent marten]

All mine are in that folder and the txt file works fine for me and everyone else

[thick terrace]

it's always been folders off the root for hard drive. All cores have worked like this

[carmine kettle]

i have it on my external hdd

[languid dune]

As long as it's in your games > N64 folder, you should be good.

[manic basin]

Gex 64 is playable if you can do it all in silhouette....

[orchid nimbus]

@thick terrace just do it

[languid dune]

lol, I have that game booted up right now.

[orchid nimbus]

and if it doesn't work come back

[thick terrace]

there is no games folder. my hard drive has never had a games folder. so this core expects me to move all of the folder for all my cores to a new structure? None of the other cores expects that. They all work

[orchid nimbus]

@thick terrace do you need help or not?

[thick terrace]

Well, the ones I have been using anyway

[opal quiver]

Tom and Jerry’s in fists of hurry is playable… hum hum…

[languid dune]

Able to get Harvest Moon 64 in game now. All black screen, but I seem to be into gameplay.

[cerulean elk]

Haha that’s what I had in my vid this morning. I think I said “playable if you can do it invisible”

[thick terrace]

I appreciate the help, I just don't understand why this core is forcing something none of the other cores do.

[opal quiver]

Hahahah that’s it 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

@thick terrace so it worked?

[lament escarp]

Turok dinosaur hunter playable.

[zenith orchid]

pics or it didn't happen

[languid dune]

Got into a bit of audio in Hybrid Heaven before it crashed.

[silent marten]

The MiSTer folder structure has always been games/<core>

[raw oriole]

I have a picture of fog I could show you, but it wouldn't make it any more playable than it was when it was released

Why did Turok get so lauded? It was a terrible game

[raw oriole]

Nice!

100% perfect

[zenith orchid]

Honestly I liked the 3d platforming and exploration. I was really into it back in the day

[raw oriole]

It didn't hold up, unfortunately

[zenith orchid]

the levels looked pretty expanse

[languid dune]

I also enjoyed Turok at the time. It wasn't bad, but yeah it doesn't hold up well today.

[zenith orchid]

yeah, that's why I keep old games in their context

[lament escarp]

It's all black unless you look into the sky. And the controls are a misery... erm mystery!

[vapid hawk]

turok 1 is actually one of the better n64 shooters just because the framerate is surprisingly solid

[zenith orchid]

yeah that was another thing

it did feel quite smooth

[vapid hawk]

not true for turok2/3

[orchid nimbus]

@silent marten

[zenith orchid]

the fluid controls made navigating and platform quite fun

[silent marten]

Nice @orchid nimbus

[languid dune]

I feel like Powerslave did first person shooter platforming best at the time. It was like an early Metroid Prime.

[carmine kettle]

awesome work

[zenith orchid]

I look forward to the potential of turbo mode on the core, to hopefully get better FPS out of the remaining FPS games

[lament escarp]

Huh? What is that third folder from the left in the top row?

[vapid hawk]

thats where you put all the 240pTestsuite roms

[orchid nimbus]

102,233 items, totalling 701.4 GB

[thick terrace]

no, it hasn't. On hard drives it was root/core. That was the original instructions and it has always worked.

[orchid nimbus]

I got too much crap on my NAS 😄

[silent marten]

Where did you read this??

[zenith orchid]

crapNAS 💩

[silent marten]

Or who told you this??

[orchid nimbus]

@thick terrace I don't want to be a dick - but are you here to argue or to get things working?

we do support a lot and we even go the extra mile if the person is willing to do what we tell them to do

if they just keep arguing it just pisses everyone off

[zenith orchid]

I guess the newbie knows better than all our combined knowledge.

[thick terrace]

you are asking me to take apart my case, remove my hard drive, plug it into my computer and move all of my files to a new directory structure that no other core enforces

[languid dune]

You can use FTP.

No need to take it apart.

[orchid nimbus]

@thick terrace if your knowledge on how the MiSTer works limits you to that... then yes

[zenith orchid]

or SMB

[thick terrace]

The games already load from the structure I have,

[orchid nimbus]

or make a /games/N64 dir and see what happens

no need to move everything there

make sure it's N64 and not n64

or Nintendo64

[thick terrace]

that is just weird when no other core forces that. Why does this one?

[modern sleet]

This core is not even beta yet,

[zenith orchid]

not even alpha

[modern sleet]

If this is too much to ask, maybe wait for the final core.

[orchid nimbus]

it's for us to jump on and eye progress and give feedback

we are essential the testing team so to speak

we did this with the PSX core and we'll do it again with this one

[lament escarp]

I'm part of a team 😍

[thick terrace]

I playtested the psx core a;; the way through development and it works with the folder off the root.

[silent marten]

Yeah you are 🙂

[languid dune]

Snowboard Kids seems to be doing better on my end this time around. Used to freeze right away after showing some visuals. Now gets into the menus.

[zenith orchid]

@lament escarp hey you've been playing the part

[thick terrace]

and the saturn core works off the root

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-excited-ecstatic-grooving-superman-gif-13480357

everything is awesome when you're part of a team

[viral wadi]

Seal of Approval Team 6

[thick terrace]

just weird.

[languid dune]

Am I part of the team...

[zenith orchid]

@thick terrace Saturn is practically feature complete apart from lightgun support. anyway, go argue elsewhere

[orchid nimbus]

you're part of the team - he's part of the team - everyone is part of the tream... except @thick terrace they can wait 😛

[silent marten]

So do your games work but not the auto detect

[silent marten]

You are very much a part of the team

[thick terrace]

yes

[orchid nimbus]

@bronze tree hey fix USB support dude

[real void]

Can anyone advise re this, sorry to be a pain

[orchid nimbus]

😛 there done it for you

[zenith orchid]

I can't claim to be part of the team, I don't like using unstable mister mains. I'll wait until the next stable mister 😅

[languid dune]

I do think we need to back off a bit on him. He's just explaining how it is from his perspective.

[orchid nimbus]

@thick terrace now we're getting somewhere - put the file in /media/fat/games/N64

[silent marten]

Can you click inside your N64 folder and show me inside it?

[orchid nimbus]

see if that works

@bronze tree who implemented it can confirm if USB[#] is taken into consideration or not

[thick terrace]

why didn't you say that before? I'll try it.

[orchid nimbus]

if not then you might have found a bug

[lament escarp]

It's the first time I'm on unstable... can't wait when this runs on stable and I can punch update all.

[orchid nimbus]

@thick terrace because I didn't read back far enough 🙂 😛

I'm the laziest person on this server

[silent marten]

I have the file in usb0/games/N64 and it works fine for me

[chrome quest]

You need to activate the "Cycle Accurate" role. Not sure what channel that is in. One of the initial landing pages of the discord I suspect

[hearty oar]

Actually, looking at the source code for MiSTer Main, it’s actually odd that it doesn’t work, findPrefixDir does actually check /media/usbN before it checks /media/usbN/games

[orchid nimbus]

so it checks /games/

[hearty oar]

Unless the n64 core hits a different code path that should work

[lament escarp]

I just activated everything in channels&roles. Worked for me.

[silent marten]

Hmmmm that is very odd @thick terrace

[graceful radish]

I’ve never seen someone put their game folders in the root of usb. Always games folder

[languid dune]

That must be the cause.

[hearty python]

But he used no games folder, look at the tree 😂

[hearty oar]

It’s odd, but yeah it should in theory work looking at how the file path precedence works in code

[silent marten]

Can you just make a games folder and copy the N64 folder into it @thick terrace

[orchid nimbus]

@real void go to id:customize

select this

[zenith orchid]

yeah, I figure by the time there's a new mister stable, z-buffer and perspective correction will be in. and maybe even the essential texture modes

[silent marten]

I know 🙂

[graceful radish]

As far as the case you have, hard drive access, etc, that’s not anything anyone but you chose to do 🙂

[raw oriole]

You need the Cycle Accurate role, hang on I need to get an admin to work out why you don't have it already...

[remote hatch]

Nuclear strike , playable

[orchid nimbus]

what th heck is this Caaaaarllll role?

[silent marten]

@thick terrace just humour me on this one please

[lament escarp]

How much does a games folder cost anyway? I dunno because I bought my mister preconfigured.

[zenith orchid]

tbh, when I got my first mister I also had issues with the directory structure. I had to reflash the card and put a games directory in manually

[thick terrace]

ok I added a N64 folder to fat/games and put the file in it. Still gives me the error message.

[hearty python]

I have searched ones my console cores. Cause was the folder wasn’t present anymore 😂

[thick terrace]

I appreciate the help

[silent marten]

I really want to get your auto detect up and running

[thick terrace]

the auto detect sets parameters for the games?

[orchid nimbus]

/usb0/games/N64/ file there?

@thick terrace yes

sets CIC and other settings soon

currently only CIC

[desert crow]

did he have the new mister file?

[silent marten]

Yeah he did blue

[remote hatch]

Destruction Derby 👍🏻

[silent marten]

Robotron 64 is playable

[graceful radish]

Make sure you don’t have a games/N64 folder on your SD card

[silent marten]

Everything except text is rendering

Ohhh level 5 and it crashed 😦

[thick terrace]

you just told me to put a games/N64 folder on my SD card and put the file there. and I just showed a picture of the folder.

[zinc dew]

Ohh which game?

[silent marten]

Robotron 64

[zinc dew]

Test dual controller mode!

[silent marten]

No text dude

Won't be able to easily find that option lol

[zinc dew]

That doesn’t stop me, I can’t read! As you can tell!

[languid dune]

I think I'm good on testing for the day. A lot of fun new discoveries again!

[modern sleet]

You have a usb hard drive connected no? then it's probably looking at /usb0/games/N64/ as Vamp suggested

[silent marten]

This is what we have been trying to tell him

[vagrant ivy]

usbo/games/N64 will hide the /mdeia/fat/games/N64

thats the way that USB works

[languid dune]

I think Pokemon Puzzle League was my favorite new discovery with today's builld. Definitely check it out if you haven't yet!

[zinc dew]

Ohhh it’s playable?

[vagrant ivy]

if you have a USB plugged in then all the files need to be in the /games/N64 folder. Everything because the Mister wont even look at the SD card. Mister has a priority system USB > SD card

[languid dune]

I was able to get in game, but the play field is all black. But the entire intro animation plays!

[thick terrace]

is this the right one?

[vagrant ivy]

right one ?

[daring meteor]

Yes

[thick terrace]

right version of MiSTer?

[daring meteor]

Its the right one

[vagrant ivy]

its todays date

[lament escarp]

Mine was turok. Can't see much but I already feel like a dinosaur hunter.

[daring meteor]

My romset was already the right format so I don't need to do anything haha

[vagrant ivy]

I hand edited my romset so every hex address went up by 1. Now it wont work ! What did I do wrong 🙂

[graceful radish]

I searched for discussion on Aleck64 before asking this question. Since Aleck64 hardware is the same and a Nintendo 64 game adapter exists for Alex 64 maybe there’s a chance Alex 64 games will work on the N64 core. Thoughts?

[daring meteor]

Lmao

[vagrant ivy]

It will take a Smart Aleck to fix it !

[graceful radish]

🥁

[desert crow]

think those were patched to work with everdrive

[graceful radish]

Yeah

[silent marten]

@thick terrace did you try to make a games folder on your USB drive?

[real void]

Looks like it's already selected?

[graceful radish]

Maybe it’s a CIC thing

[raw oriole]

Added the Cycle Accurate role to you, you should have access now. Still not sure why you didn't have it.

[hearty python]

Seem you use an usb sdcard reader

[real void]

Super, that seems to have done it. Appreciate it 👍

[lament escarp]

Had the same issue. Selecting everything worked for me.

[cerulean elk]

It’s about as 1:1 as you can possibly get arcade to console hardware wise

You can change pin wiring and rip it

[quick arch]

more demos also work

[graceful radish]

Right the only discrepancy I see is 36Mb of RDram on Aleck vs 32Mb on N64

[cerulean elk]

Some games run in a diff control scheme but that’s just hardware to transpose to JAMMA standards

[graceful radish]

I won’t rest until I can play Mickey Tetris

[cerulean elk]

Tower & Shaft is a good time too

[graceful radish]

Haha, I’m grateful for all of the developers

[hearty oar]

@silent marten, I actually thought it wouldn't work without the /games dir, but looking at this code it seems like @thick terrace has stumbled on to a real bug here, this should be how all cores are looking for files:

// Usb<0..5>
    for (int x = 0; x < 6; x++) {
        snprintf(temp_dir, 1024, "%s%d/%s", "../usb", x, dir);
        if (isPathDirectory(temp_dir)) {
            printf("Found USB dir: %s\n", temp_dir);
            strncpy(dir, temp_dir, dir_len);
            return 1;
        }

        snprintf(temp_dir, 1024, "%s%d/%s/%s", "../usb", x, GAMES_DIR, dir);
        if (isPathDirectory(temp_dir)) {
            printf("Found USB dir: %s\n", temp_dir);
            strncpy(dir, temp_dir, dir_len);
            return 1;
        }
    }

you should definitely try and make that folder anyway to see if it works @thick terrace , but yeah surprisingly what you are doing should be in theory fine...

[vagrant ivy]

direct in the root is old style. The new style is /games/core

[silent marten]

Yeah @hearty oar that is why I asked him to humour me and just make the folder and move it to games

[wanton sun]

i'm still using root/n64 .... i'm old 😦

so far didn't ran into any issues without the games subfolder

[vagrant ivy]

yes you must go to the Forest and cut down the Mightiest tree with a Herring

[silent marten]

Do you get the not detected message though??

[wanton sun]

no, it works fine

[orchid nimbus]

N64 or n64?

[vagrant ivy]

To be or Not to Be

[wanton sun]

N64, sorry

big N

[hearty python]

Linux is case sensitive

[silent marten]

wtf????? So why is it not working for @thick terrace

[thick terrace]

I keep getting autodetext failed

[vagrant ivy]

Case wont matter on a fat32 formatted USB device

[hearty oar]

n64.cpp doesn't look to be doing anything odd to find the files it needs either, it should fall into the above snippet

[vagrant ivy]

oh now I have Roberts IP. Incoming DDOS !

[brisk drum]

Woah! You unlocked the stealth chopper!

[hearty oar]

I'm very confused, this is starting to remind me of work lol

[thick terrace]

I made a games/N64 folder on the hard drive and put the file there and I still get failed. I put an N64 folder on games on my sd card and put the file in and failed. I put the file in my root/N64 folder and failed.

[brisk drum]

Put the file in the file !

[wanton sun]

probably your file is corrupt or wrong named

[silent marten]

For every rom though??

[silent marten]

Did you put boot.rom and a game in that folder?

[thick terrace]

I looked at the .txt file

[hearty python]

FRITZ!Box class c net

[wanton sun]

the color of your name is intimidating enough, please no!

[thick terrace]

when I go to load a game it shows the root/N64 directory all my regular files are in.

[silent marten]

Also @thick terrace what rom set are you using?

[hearty oar]

that file is sitting next to those roms, yeah?

[wanton sun]

what is the name of the file in that folder?

[thick terrace]

I dunno. I've had them forever. They are all loading and running

[vagrant ivy]

wasnt theres some issue with the filename being wrong when you did save as from Vampier's site with certain browsers

[thick terrace]

The filename is n64-database.txt

[silent marten]

OK final stupid question did you name it on your PC/Laptop before transferring it over and have show file extensions for known files on?

[thick terrace]

it's a txt file.

[silent marten]

Just curious to know if it is being called n64-database.txt.txt lol

[hearty oar]

n64-database.txt.lol

[thick terrace]

I always show extensions

[carmine kettle]

you have the bios?

[thick terrace]

All the games run

[silent marten]

Cool cool 🙂 just checking

Then yeah it is your romset

[thick terrace]

surely it's a simple solution

[vagrant ivy]

N64 romset used was the NoIntro Set

so get that set and you should be fine

[silent marten]

They are not matching the sha-1 hash in the txt file

[hearty oar]

it certainly feels like we are missing something obvious here...

[thick terrace]

maybe I'll load it into a text editor and save as to make a new text file

[cerulean elk]

Yes. Found that Opera browser adds domain text to the file

And at least in my system discord defaults to Opera. No clue why

As I use nothing but chrome

[silent marten]

It has been named correctly, it is in the right place, mister main is up to date, core us up to date and still auto detect failed for him @cerulean elk

[cerulean elk]

Weird

[vagrant ivy]

autodteect takes the md5 of the first 4096 bytes

it wasa generated from the No -Intro set

[cerulean elk]

Transfer files in a weird manner? That seems to break things for some people

[vagrant ivy]

get the No Intro Set and try again

[hearty oar]

that does seems to just leave the rom hashes, as Tim is suggesting

[vagrant ivy]

well transfer has to be Binary for Filezilla or better yet just use WinSCP

[cerulean elk]

MiSTer be weird sometimes. That’s my answer when it just doesn’t work lol

[carmine kettle]

always reboot, a couples of times it eventually works

[vagrant ivy]

always use protection

[thick terrace]

MK64 Amped up runs

[cerulean elk]

This is why I have one dedicated MiSTer for “leave it alone and play games”

[silent marten]

you really shgould try a new romset @thick terrace

[cerulean elk]

And a MiSTer for “what version of unstable am I on again”

[thick terrace]

These are all z64 files, I think I have them in n64 as well.

[vagrant ivy]

just get the No Intro set

its the exact set used to generate the Md5

[cerulean elk]

No intro has worked fine for me. As has champions set and the ever drive roll up pack

[thick terrace]

on Archive?

[vagrant ivy]

I cant say where to get it server rules

[lean spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

Just jumped in and set it up for the first time! Congrats Robert on the amazing progress.

[vagrant ivy]

only thing is No Intro was in 7zip so it needs rezipping as Mister doesnt support 7zip

[cerulean elk]

This is why I show all my installation guides as “bare files”. I know nobody will get screwed up with a .z64 / unzipped file for whatever system they are using. But compressed…never know what people are doing

[thick terrace]

I downloaded a sample rom mk64 europe from the no intro set and it still says failed

The game loaded and plays

transferred with filezilla in binary mode

[vagrant ivy]

I would delete every N64 directory you have

and start again with a usb0/games/N64

[viscid gate]

iQue FZeroX seems to occasionally work

[vagrant ivy]

or better still dont use the USB and put it on the SD card

[thick terrace]

At least the n64 files are smallish.

[zinc dew]

Guess where I keep my N64 directory

[vagrant ivy]

is it your Ar** ?

[zinc dew]

On my shelves

no, my shelves!

[orchid nimbus]

Ow my shelves!!

[bronze tree]

@thick terrace I will have a look later why it doesn't work with your folder structure

[orchid nimbus]

thanks @bronze tree

[thick terrace]

it's weird FPGAzumSpass said his directory structure is the same as mine

[vagrant ivy]

but if you have a dir on the USB it will hide the SD card

Mister has a heirachy of places to look

USB >> SD Card

[thick terrace]

yes

I didn't have a N64 folder on my sd card untill fuzz suggested I try putting one.

I'll pull all the extra n64 folders and try again.

The games load where they are, but for some reason I'm getting the failed message

[vagrant ivy]

just a simple game/N64 on the SD card

sorry games/N64

[orchid nimbus]

@thick terrace see PM from me

[vagrant ivy]

thats the way Mr Fusion would set it up if you did a new install

[bronze tree]

@thick terrace which filesystem are you using? I think after @orchid nimbus complained we are now actually looking for N64-database.txt, so if you use something that is case sensitive...

I don't know if exfat is for example

[silent marten]

@thick terrace check DM

[vagrant ivy]

exfat is case insensitive

NTFS is case senstive

[chrome quest]

Was that change made? Checkign https://vampier.net/N64/, it still seems to be lowercase "n" on my browser

[vagrant ivy]

Vampier is providing a service so we should be happy he has it up for download. I guess alot of people would be using a case insenstive FS so it would never matter

[thick terrace]

I changed the n to an N and now I'm not getting the error message. Thanks. ____ case sensitivity.

Thankls all

[silent marten]

wooooo!!!!!

[vagrant ivy]

time to go EXfat and never have to worry !

[hearty oar]

Wow, all is sane in the world again

[thick terrace]

lol

[bronze tree]

@orchid nimbus will you fix the file to uppercase N or what shall we do?

[chrome quest]

Totally agree. But, I guess after that discussion, thought it wouldn't hurt just to let Vampier know.

[vagrant ivy]

yes. But its a test core and so people should be prepared for pain if they want to play along. The steps are simple but its easy to bugger it up

[hearty python]

I would do that.

[hearty oar]

I was going to suggest falling back to either upper or lower, but that could be just as confusing if a user on a case-sensitive FS ends up somehow having both in their directory

[vagrant ivy]

Its almost certain someone would manage that

[hearty oar]

Although yeah my original vote, had I made one and it counted would have gone to lower case

[vagrant ivy]

It clearly shouled be called quest6 4 is the best game on the N64.txt

[hearty python]

With N is enough, cause we need only fix one possibility 😁

[hearty oar]

I hate case-insensitive filesystems. Fun story, the code I work on has a folder named TnT, windows perforce clients are obviously totally case insensitive, but the Unix p4 server is - long story short I tried to check out the code on a Linux machine one day and ended up with TnT, tnT, tnt, tNt, etc

This might be more of a rant against perforce than anything else, but still, the unholy union was not ideal

[bronze tree]

please don't mention perforce...

[hearty oar]

Sorry if I gave you Vietnam war flashbacks

[vagrant ivy]

In Vietnam the Average age of the combat solider was 19. Had to do the Paul Hardcastle ref

[bronze tree]

Files you can't edit because they are used by someone else, commits you can't do because you "forgot to tell the system you were going to make changes to that file"

[vagrant ivy]

I love that windows will tell me its in use but refuse to tell me who has it in use

[bronze tree]

Banjo-Kazooie just keeps playing (the audio, the screen is black)

[native mesa]

Any people who stream stream the new build yet?

[bronze tree]

All Star Tennis 99 is also interesting: black players on a black field, but you can see the net and the lines

[fallen sparrow]

Hi guys,
I've been out for most of the day.
Does the new core update require the specific MiSTer main that was posted a couple of days ago.
Also does @orchid nimbus 's text file still load core options?

[bronze tree]

you can use the nightly build now

[vagrant ivy]

only if you name it correctly

[orchid nimbus]

@bronze tree it's n64-database.txt right?

and not N64-database.txt

[vagrant ivy]

Capital N at the start now

[orchid nimbus]

that was a joke

[bronze tree]

@orchid nimbus actually not, N64-database.txt

[orchid nimbus]

FFS!!!

[bronze tree]

didn't I ask you to change it?

[orchid nimbus]

so it's n64-database.txt or N64-database.txt

that was a joke

[vagrant ivy]

Cap N

[orchid nimbus]

FFS

[bronze tree]

#1096015979055697940 message

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks guys, I've definitely named it correctly.

I'll try and get a live stream going testing the new core

[hearty oar]

is it not too late to go back to lowercase, lmao

[languid dune]

You had my curiosity. Now you have my attention.

[native mesa]

Quest64-database.txt

[raw oriole]

ņ64-ďäțãbåșę.txt

[vagrant ivy]

QUEST64-ISAWESOME.txt

[native mesa]

We broke the code

[vagrant ivy]

733t.txt

[fallen sparrow]

My family was invited to dinner at a restaurant by a subscriber of the channel.
A top Asian restaurant in London. It's called Tayyabs and is located in White Chapel.

The owner is a real nice guy, we've become buddies

[native mesa]

That's nice but also dubious

[languid dune]

The Game Master!

[fallen sparrow]

I'm living the YouTube highlife

[orchid nimbus]

@bronze tree webpage updated with the new name

note added on case sensitive

[vagrant ivy]

Now you must pay me for the Cat you must milk everyday for the antidote

[native mesa]

Is there any British food in London?

[fallen sparrow]

I was dudius at first a few months back when I first spoke to him.
But the guy is cool, some 4 months later.

[fallen sparrow]

There is, but it's not the best of cuisines

I prefer, Turkish, Thai Chinese, Pakistani

[native mesa]

Fish n Chips all the way down

[vagrant ivy]

Most "Indian" in the UK is actually Bangladesh

[hearty oar]

Curry is the go

[native mesa]

Y'all basically conquered the world for their spices and do t have good food?

[bronze tree]

The core really doesn't like it when you load a ROM while another one is still playing 🙂 Reminds me of 2001 where they pull out all the memory banks one by one

[vagrant ivy]

WE conquered the World to have someone to play at Cricket

[fallen sparrow]

Mix grill, chicken curry, and mango lassi was banging

[remote hatch]

looks good

[languid dune]

But no cherries!?

[fallen sparrow]

I ate the on the way

[hearty oar]

and then accuse them of cheating lol

[vagrant ivy]

well clearly if you beat England you must ahve cheated

[hearty oar]

Sorry, “not playing in the spirit of the game”

(Disclaimer: I am Australian and couldn’t care any less about cricket)

[native mesa]

I do like a good butter chicken or goat momo

[plush summit]

Cricket is Asian/Australian NASCAR

[hearty oar]

Yeah, it is about as exciting as watching cars go around in a circle all day

[fallen sparrow]

I never quite got NASCAR

But I know it's loved

By many

[hearty oar]

I don’t begrudge anyone their entertainment, but it’s not for me I guess

Cricket or NASCAR

[fallen sparrow]

Love it

[fallen sparrow]

Same

I like plenty of stuff others will never understand

[vagrant ivy]

Your Steps addiction will remain Secret

Its a Tragedy

[fallen sparrow]

Well it was....

[hearty oar]

It’s a secret to everybody

[native mesa]

It's dangerous to go alone

[orchid nimbus]

take the piss

[chrome quest]

For future reference, the homebrew mind present rumble test now loads, so ready for some fast custom strength checks when needed

[orchid nimbus]

Dr Mario64 music

this game will work once texture stuff has been implemented I bet

[hasty kayak]

ISS 64 actually gets to the menu (allbeit you can't see it yet :)). Music plays etc.

[chrome quest]

Holy Magic Whatsitcalled no longer freezes! Get a whole tune now (and a black screen)

[orchid nimbus]

a lot more demos work

[daring meteor]

brb testing Ronaldiniho

[nova grotto]

RE is booting it's intro

[orchid nimbus]

the beard made him do it

[fallen sparrow]

Come join me in 30 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/live/p7-XH3YdXcE?si=GrGi41q-lPgF-Hv-

[cerulean elk]

Will there be snacks?

[uneven dagger]

Still can't unsee that wide-mouth Brosnan thing on the Goldeneye art...

[cerulean elk]

Donkey Bond

[fallen sparrow]

Most definitely

[cerulean elk]

Fail. You were supposed to reply “I’m the snack” 😂

[zinc dew]

@vagrant ivy I was told to ping you for help. I tried loading up this Mario 64 hack and it doesn’t boot. I was told the core was playing mario perfectly, what gives?

[thorn flax]

that's a good flavor

[old vortex]

I load my games from a NAS (/cifs) and I still can't get the auto-detect working. Was hoping the capital N64-database.txt change was going to be the trick to fix it, but it's still not working. I can change the CIC manually and games will start up. Running latest MiSTer main. Using No-Intro rom pack. I have N64-database.txt sitting inside my /cifs/N64/ directory. Any ideas?

[silent marten]

Latest unstable mister main?

[old vortex]

Ah, I'm running stable. Do I need to be on unstable?

I see the N64 commits on the unstable nightly repo now. Must have missed this being a requirement. Thanks!

[remote hatch]

#unstable-nightlies message

[modern sleet]

Core looks pretty much done to me once Riker is in full form!

[orchid nimbus]

correct

just make sure it's not Riker's double

[old vortex]

I was not prepared for how nostalgic hearing this music was going to be. Didn't expect to remember it at all. Hype for this core intensifying.

[weary palm]

Sorry for the low audio. It's DK64 but with a patched expansion pak check.

E0102

[mild ether]

Yes there already is signs of life with the Zoinkity rom set for Aleck 64 made for N64 flash carts. The Aleck 64 PIF rom appears to work just fine with the core as well.

I am watching for progress in loading the roms on each release.

[zinc dew]

What would be your most anticipated aleck64 game?

[mild ether]

Definitely Mahjong but Vivid Dolls is a solid number 2!

Holy grail N64 content.

[graceful radish]

Star soldier or Variant Schwanzer for me http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=816

[mild ether]

That one loads the best so far.

You get the menu, music and loads to game without graphics.

[cerulean elk]

Everyone discounting Tower & shaft. That’s the real banger

Mindlessly stupid iOS game before cell phone games really existed

[mild ether]

I like Tower & Shaft but how can you beat Vivid Dolls?

[cerulean elk]

With any site that ends in hub? 😂

[languid dune]

Hush! There are children present!

Well not really...but still!

[weary palm]

github?

Self explanatory. Crashes right before the DK rap, sadly.

[cerulean elk]

Oh like they don’t know about it

[weary palm]

I hope z buffer gets implemented first. 😉

[thorn flax]

nah, leave that till last. it's so tripy

like every haunted n64 meme come to life

[weary palm]

but i cant beat bowser 3 because of it xD

[hearty oar]

IIRC some n64 games don’t even use the hardware z-buffer, I think Factor 5 decided they could do better in software with RSP microcode

Save some texture memory bandwidth I guess

[orchid nimbus]

For some reason whenI move my c-stick mapper stick on my ps4 and sn30 pro2 another button is triggered with it

In Mario it’s to adjust the camera

And in the Mario kart is to adjust the HUD

[chilly ember]

Is it just a random button everytime?

I just tried on super mario 64 with my ps4 controller and I don't seem to have that issue

[orchid nimbus]

I probably have a mapping error where I accidentally hit the left stick by mistake with the main mapping screen

Not home now - will try later

[cerulean elk]

Switch Pro is a nice choice too. That’s what I’ve been using till I source an NSO N64 controller

[primal bolt]

I think I might go with OG controller and replace parts with the Klipsch-Bent or whatever

SteelSticks64 would be the best but its impossible to get

[hearty oar]

I'm going with Gamecube, but yeah I think Switch Pro would also be good

both are weak for the few games that need a dpad I guess

[cerulean elk]

Yeah switch D pad is just fine but the rest of the controller is great

I don’t use it for Digital input games, but for analog it’s my go to

Honestly my new go to for MiSTer and D pad games that use the SNES layout is gonna be the 8BitDo Neo Geo CD pad. Been loving it

[primal bolt]

I want that controller for NeoGeo/CD and Pocket

[chilly ember]

I got one of those 8bitdo hall effect kits ordered so I'm hoping that will be alright until I can get a nso controller

[cerulean elk]

Useless for six button CPS stuff / Genesis because of how the buttons are laid out but anything that needs a D pad and two / four buttons on the face…gold

[languid dune]

I have 4 Switch Pro controllers, and only one of them has a good d-pad. Getting one is like winning the lottery.

[primal bolt]

dont the switch pro have a lot of lag?

[cerulean elk]

Neo Geo / SNES / PC Engine / all four button arcade games and I’ve been loving it. Got through the first two stages of ESP Ra De on MiSTer on the NGCD pad the same way I would on my custom arcade sticks

[hearty oar]

that is unfortunate, yeah, Switch controllers are pretty bad on that front

[cerulean elk]

🤷🏻‍♂️ I only run it hard wired

I basically never do wireless with MiSTer

[zinc dew]

I'm too good for lag to affect me

[primal bolt]

i thought it still has lag

[zinc dew]

sorry y'all have skill issues

[languid dune]

On an actual Switch, the Switch Pro has more lag when it's wired. Weird but true.

[hearty oar]

ooh, you should run it via BT, it actually paradoxically has less lag when wireless

Switch controllers are really jank like that

[primal bolt]

yea

its weird

whats the lag on NSO controller or we dont know yet?

[cerulean elk]

I’ve heard that. I have issues with all wireless shit. Our house has plaster walls with chicken wire. It eats signals. Bluetooth, wifi…the works

Built in 1892

[zinc dew]

did you think about like maybe not building a house with chicken wire

[hearty oar]

the other NSO controllers are about the same as the pro controller, so unless the N64 NSO is an outlier I wouldn't get your hopes too high

[languid dune]

I can't wait for my Neo Geo CD controller to arrive. Dang Amazon!

[cerulean elk]

Tell that to the 1800s people. Chicken wire was probably a new invention 😂

[languid dune]

Most N64 games run at such low frame rates, that I doubt the lag on the NSO controller will be very noticeable.

[zinc dew]

time travel back in time and slap them with a mister

[hearty oar]

I mean if you're happy playing and you don't notice anything than all good, best to use the controller you like

[cerulean elk]

N64 feels like the controller has lag on OG hardware and a crt haha

[cerulean elk]

Yeah. I won’t use it for fighters / shmups. I go straight to my sticks for those

[zinc dew]

I like asking everyone which controller is their least favorite then proceeding to use that and tell them they're wrong

this is why I exclusively use the Jaguar controller

[languid dune]

Same. I always use my SF4 TE arcade stick for shmups and fighters on my MiSTer.

[primal bolt]

I want a couple jaguar controllers for jaguar core

[chilly ember]

Intellivision controller

[hearty oar]

ah, this is why those Atari junkies were asking about terrible joysticks in #controllers ...

[cerulean elk]

Honestly the Jaguar controller isn’t good…but I never hated it

[languid dune]

Well I use the Atari 5200 controller!

[primal bolt]

I like using the original controllers for each system

[zinc dew]

damn you beat me lol

[zinc dew]

I really want one but they're expensive

[languid dune]

I actually do this also most of the time.

[cerulean elk]

@robby is over there using this

[zinc dew]

I bought that for my kid lol

I think I may still have it around, not sure

[cerulean elk]

Your “kid”…you mean you?

😂

[zinc dew]

maybe...

👀

[languid dune]

Do you need any ointment for that burn?

[zinc dew]

maybe....

Random but wanted to post before I forget. Here's an example file to get MGL files working to launch games directly:

    <rbf>_Console/N64</rbf>
    <file delay="1" type="s" index="1" path="../../../../media/fat/games/N64/USA/Awbacon_sucks.z64"/>
</mistergamedescription>```

[fallen sparrow]

Seems legit

[chilly ember]

Best game

[cerulean elk]

You can’t even spell

[zinc dew]

lol

[cerulean elk]

USA/awbacons_magnum-unit.z69

[zinc dew]

lmao

[cerulean elk]

There. Fixed it

[languid dune]

Awbacon is locked and loaded tonight!

[cerulean elk]

Cocked, rocked and ready to shit talk 😂

[languid dune]

Aaaaaand, I just got Robby's joke.

[cerulean elk]

That’s why I love it around here. Bunch of like minded idiots who like cracking stupid jokes and talking about video games

[languid dune]

womp womp

[fallen sparrow]

It's the sound of the police

[cerulean elk]

Don’t your police sirens sound different?

[fallen sparrow]

Out one go "Nee Noo"

[languid dune]

Who shot who in the what now?

[cerulean elk]

“Nee noo it’s the sound of the Bobbies…nee noo hide your fish and chips please…”

[zenith orchid]

fascinating that hacks are being made to help test the core. this one will probably among the last to supported on the core. it runs in 64-bits and probably is heavily dependent on tlb

[fallen sparrow]

I shot the Sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy

[languid dune]

I like your honesty.

[covert bough]

Caught the tail end of your stream, thanks for the testing

[cerulean elk]

Haha ok back on track. I do wish the NSO controller wasn’t being scalped on eBay. Annoys the hell out of me