Nintendo 64

[wanton sun]

you really have the file?

[languid dune]

Busted visuals though as expected.

[lament escarp]

Yeah I copied it to /games/N64, several other games like Starcraft and Pokemon Stadium booted somewhat without the message.

[wanton sun]

then i would say your copy is somehow modified/different and fails the hash check

[solemn maple]

Dang

[lament escarp]

I'm using the everdrive pack from some Archive as was recommended.

[wanton sun]

i just checked again...no message and Yoshi yells "jindendo"

[solemn maple]

Same for me

[solid crest]

@lament escarp to be clear you added this text file to the N64 games directory?:

https://vampier.net/N64/n64-database.txt

[lament escarp]

Yes, I did. I was also able to launch Majoras Mask etc.

So it's seeing something right?

[wanton sun]

if other games show no message, the file must be there...i guess this hash check will not only check for details of rom, but also help identify bad dumps 😅

[thick terrace]

haven't played Clay fighter since I tested it at Interplay a million years ago

[wanton sun]

i still remember when i developed the gba core and my mario kart copy to sdcard failed, so some graphic was trash. I only found it when everyone said they don't have that "bug"

[languid dune]

Extreme G showing a fair amount of visuals. Crashed right after I selected my machine.

[solemn maple]

RE2 shows some signs of life

[oblique remnant]

Pika Piii

[bronze tree]

The list is generated from what I had. Maybe you have a different revision or something. Fuzz also had "auto-detect failed" on one of his files.

[languid dune]

Getting some rough sounding music out of Harvest Moon 64

[silent marten]

I did find one yeah but that was an Alpha so maybe it was not in your list 🙂

[cerulean elk]

worked for them around 95-96 by chance?

Always trying to track down more info on ClayFighter for the 3DO M2

[lament escarp]

Could you give me the CRC32 of your Yoshis Story to verify which one should work

[vagrant ivy]

a06aef74f9ba457e982d2ffc0a4236c8 pal|cic7106|eeprom2k|rpak # Yoshi's Story
a4f3c4f1e5c37d3790d47bf4a1a54e29 ntsc|cic6106|eeprom2k|rpak # Yoshi's Story
dd730b17c062575e849d45ff50c83ee6 ntsc|cic6106|eeprom2k|rpak # Yoshi Story

is the CRC in that file for Yoshi

but the CRC is only for the CIC bit as far as I understand

[bronze tree]

these are md5 hashes of the first 4096 bytes, not CRC32

[vagrant ivy]

so calculate the Has of the first 4096 bytes and compare to those I listed

[languid dune]

I'm not getting anything out of OoT or Majora's Mask.

[bronze tree]

you can double check in the "system" menu that the settings are changed correctly

[languid dune]

What do they need to be set to?

[bronze tree]

it should match the tags in the database file

it's just a text file, should not be difficult to search through and compare the "tags"

[pure ocean]

I've started Mario64 , Lylat Wars (Starfox) but can't see any message. Or will I get a message when it's NOT setup correctly?

the games are running

[vagrant ivy]

you see the message if its not found in the database

[pure ocean]

okay, then it's all correct. Thanks.

[lament escarp]

Filezilla messed up the transfer it s seems. The textfile on the mister ended somewhere before the end. Switch to winSCP now it works.

[worn delta]

Wow, exciting stuff today!

[vagrant ivy]

Always use WinSCP on windows

Never Filezilla !

[languid dune]

By that, you mean the "cic" number right?

[worn delta]

I've chucked the new rbf and the text file into the WIP DB for the other two people using that

[languid dune]

I'm getting some stuff in Majora's Mask now, but not OoT.

[lament escarp]

Uninstalled!

[vagrant ivy]

signs of Intelligence appear !

[remote hatch]

good choice , winscp 🙂

[languid ore]

Built-in BVM-style scanlines. NIIIIICE

[wanton sun]

same here

[lament escarp]

I got a yellow line on the top left, so I win!

[graceful radish]

Filezilla works great as long as the transfer mode is "Binary" not "Auto" or "ASCII"

[vagrant ivy]

but sadly people dont realise. It doesnt default so Win SCP is a better option

[graceful radish]

Fair enough

[cerulean elk]

and this is why I still haven't put any of my MiSTers in a case and just go micro to USB lol

[vagrant ivy]

SSH is easy to set up

and saves wear on the delicate SD card slot

[languid dune]

Also just got this once I changed the cic number.

I assume that the auto dectect doesn't work yet since I seem to have to manually set the cic number for each game.

[worn delta]

I'm getting 6101 for the CIC for 1080p...

[vagrant ivy]

then you have a starnge Set

Get the No Intro set !

[worn delta]

No, I have the HTGDB everdrive set, the best one

[vagrant ivy]

no its a set, not the best, you jsut gave it that title

[cerulean elk]

do we have an agreed upon best "set" yet?

Ive been using the Champions set so far

[vagrant ivy]

there isnt one

No Intro is my chosen set

[worn delta]

I thought we had all agreed on the HTGDB set being the best and one to use

[vagrant ivy]

no you agreed on it

[worn delta]

now nothing loads for me

[vagrant ivy]

No intro is z64 and I have never had any issues with No Intro sets before

[oblique remnant]

Bangai-o shows some life in terms of sound 🙂

[vagrant ivy]

nothing will load unless you have the new Main unstable Mister

[worn delta]

I do have that

[vagrant ivy]

and the database ?

[wanton sun]

new mister main must be there and you must reboot your mister, otherwise it has no effect

[worn delta]

I ran update all after, hopefully that didn't overwrite the unstable main

I have the database

[languid dune]

It probably did.

Especially since a new main just released today.

[worn delta]

v230816 for mister main

yeah, on that I get 6101 for 1080 US version

[orchid nimbus]

how?

[bronze tree]

I can add a message if auto-detection succeeded for the time being if it's otherwise not clear enough if it's actually doing something

[orchid nimbus]

Moondandy did you download the one from unstable?

[bronze tree]

@wanton sun what do you think?

[orchid nimbus]

not the unstable that was release today on the official one

[wanton sun]

when you get wrong CIC and get no error message, your don't have the new mister main

[orchid nimbus]

FFS - I should write a script to prevent this stuff

😄

[vagrant ivy]

#test-builds message This is the one for N64 + the database

[wanton sun]

it's your choise, but i think it will settle in the next 1-3 days...hopefully

using unstable main is always a little bit more tricky

e.g. you can't delete the file at runtime, only rename, have to reboot, ...

[quick arch]

If sorg approved it we can proposed change on Main Mister

maybe less difficult

[worn delta]

Am pulling out my SD card to manually copy over unstable main again incase update script overwrote it

[pure ocean]

Or it can be added to the Settings WIP Page? CIC Database: enabled

[wanton sun]

i'm not sure it's time for that yet, as the core is not even in the normal mister repo structure

[pure ocean]

or something like that

"not found"

[orchid nimbus]

@whole tulip ^^ 🙂 can you please change that? (see @wanton sun message)

[vagrant ivy]

Tag the main with something the core can read and if you start the core with the wrong Main just load Quest 6 4 !

[languid dune]

Getting some nicely busted music and some floating black boxes in Worms!

🪱

[quick arch]

Saturn have some code in main mister

[wanton sun]

i could just create a repo in mister devel and push things there, but i usually wait with that until things get at least halfway stable

[bronze tree]

are you telling me my code is not stable 😛

[pure ocean]

all in all it's alpha so ...anyways^^

[wanton sun]

no, mine 🙂 you can try a pull request and see what sorg says 😛

[bronze tree]

well... I'm not that confident 😄

[pure ocean]

the sorg joke again! I'm fine with him.

[bronze tree]

sorry if it came across as being negative, I'm glad he's strict about what goes in

[wanton sun]

no, honestly, it's normal dev work. Current build is very early, it's not useful for everyone yet. let things get more stable and they will be available more comfortable

[cerulean elk]

didnt read as negative at all

this is why I rarely teach people how to go unstable in videos. Even when it works, its not easy and its always a pinch point at the start

[orchid nimbus]

if Sorg wasn't there there would be a lot of abandoned bloat in the MiSTer main by now

[languid dune]

Getting the N64 Sports logo on Excitebike 64.

[orchid nimbus]

Exciting.. bike

[vagrant ivy]

Sorg is underappreciated. He works in the background

[bronze tree]

great! It's one of the games with a non 6102 CIC

[lament escarp]

I managed to get into quiet some menus in pokemon stadium 2

[languid dune]

Yeah, I had to change it manually. I assume it's always a manual change right now, correct?

[pure ocean]

I have him in my personal contacts and my mister since 2016 or so, when just 50 users had one and almost nothing was running at all. He was always friendly, I did some Github PR back then, helped with some cores and we discussed many things together. Sometimes he was a bit stubborn, but in the end he found it good and implemented it anyways. I get on well with him.

[bronze tree]

I "played" "Beetle Adventure Racing!" today. There are hardly any visuals, but if you move the analog stick you can hear sounds when you hover items

then after some random clicking around the race started

you can't see anything, but you hear the engine

... and after a while the annoucer tell you you are falling behind 🙂

[languid dune]

Dang, nothing for F-Zero X still.

[wanton sun]

can't say anything else. My comment was more about trying to push things for a core not even able to play a game. So it would be natural to get a answer like "do your homework first". And i would totally agree

[lament escarp]

Hexen gives you a nice flying logo

[bronze tree]

no, this should have been auto detected

[languid dune]

The auto detect hasn't been working at all on my end.

[bronze tree]

do you have access to the serial console or ssh to check the messages when you load a game?

[native mesa]

I thought mister main was open source

[pure ocean]

exactly!

[wanton sun]

it is, everyone can do changes, like markun did now. But pushing it in the central repository has your guard before, named sorg, deciding what shall be part of it. And thankfully he does that job, otherwise.... 😅

[vagrant ivy]

Sorg is Cerberus guarding the Gates

[fringe sigil]

Sumcheck values in the n64-database.txt are SHA-1, right?

[wanton sun]

md5 of the first 4096 bytes

[native mesa]

Yeah I remember how long it took the dynamic scaler modes to get in

[languid dune]

@bronze tree Wait, I rebooted my MiSTer again, and now the auto detect is working.

[bronze tree]

ah, the double-reboot trick 😛

[vagrant ivy]

if you swapped Main mister then you would have to reboot

[native mesa]

Did N64 have any light gun games?

[wanton sun]

but it's a child console 😦

[bronze tree]

btw, if we find roms that have the same header, but need different settings, it's also possible to do the md5 of the complete rom, the code also checks if we have a match for that.

[vagrant ivy]

Quest 6 4 was the best lightgun game, also driving game, Platform Game, Fighting game

[bronze tree]

Although I don't think I actually tested it

[native mesa]

House of the Brian

[quick arch]

Thank you Markun, Vampier, Fuzz and FPGAZumspass to prepare all of this 🙂

[oblique remnant]

qu est around!

[wanton sun]

with psx we got this large amount of different controllers, but thankfully the n64 controller is just perfect, so no controller switch in OSD required anymore 😛

[worn delta]

Got set up working my end now, not sure what was going on, but because you can't seem to swap to a MiSTer unstable build via firezilla on my Mac I have to manually remove the SD card, and it's an unfun experience that goes wrong way too often for comfort

[vagrant ivy]

my controller from Ebay is sitting in IPA cleaning. The time to fit the 8 Bit do Hall effect and new main board to it

[worn delta]

With this new database file, do we need to check for things missing and group source adding them?

[vagrant ivy]

you can. you filezilla in rename the mister present , upload the new and reboot

[worn delta]

homebrews, hacks, translations, demos etc?

[blissful plaza]

Banjo-Kazooie boots.
Extreme-G XG2 boots too.

[worn delta]

Doesn't work, bricks my MiSTer

[native mesa]

Doesn't ipa disolve abs over time

Maybe that's acetone

[vagrant ivy]

shouldnt do and bricks is a bit of an overstatement

[vagrant ivy]

IPA wont alter the plastic, Acetone will melt it

[bronze tree]

I left out betas, protos etc

[wanton sun]

this should cover all my controller needs for the core

[nova grotto]

@wanton sun Is it possible to implement a composite/ S-Video/component toogle in the ps1 core ? Just like Sega Genesis with the composite/composite blend mode ? So the end user don't need to change cables manually or also for comparison purposes

[vagrant ivy]

I would get the nso Controller if Nintendo didnt put it behind a silly firewall of needing a switch account

[languid dune]

Of everything new I tested today, I think the biggest new working game for me was Clayfighter Sculptor's Cut. A fair amount of stuff going on in that one.

[vagrant ivy]

Ebay also charges way over the odds

[pure ocean]

I've got an original N64 controller and the Mayaflash USB Adapter.

[vagrant ivy]

I have the 8BItDo replacement board and Hall effect coming

so I dont have to use the crap stick in it

[thick terrace]

all my ports are routed to the back

[pure ocean]

Playtendo?

[wanton sun]

i have no idea what would be needed for that, but at the current point, analog out has no priority, sorry

[lament escarp]

Works well for me.

[languid dune]

Think I'm done testing for now. This was fun again!

[pure ocean]

same.

[viscid gate]

@wanton sun Is it the case that your build of MiSTer main doesn’t have today’s CDDA changes? It seems that way…

Not a problem, just checking.

[chrome quest]

No success yet. Attempting to debug, anyone mind noting the MD5 of the full "Yoshi's Story (US)" version. Tried to truncate to the first 4096 bytes to compare if that is the issue.
Should have sound? I just get a garbled screen at the moment

[wanton sun]

not sure what markun has it based on, but if it happened today, it's likely that it's still missing

[bronze tree]

I rebased this afternoon

I'll check if there were any new changes

[nova grotto]

Does someone here already have the new 8 bit do NeoGeo CD controllers ? How close are compared to the original ones ? Is it worth it ?

[oblique remnant]

so do any previous CIC Settings maybe prevent to start those or wouldn't that be a problem? if its "auto-detect failed" it will then load in default settings?

[viscid gate]

MIne is "Yoshi's Story (USA) (En,Ja).z64" 586A092E22604840973B82DFACEAC77A

[chrome quest]

Thanks. Same here. System Settings are altering CIC to 6106... I think that means the .txt file and MiSTer unstable ought to be working. Obviously something missing. Can't get any results others are reporting yet

[remote hatch]

https://discord.com/channels/647909397477195803/806024374368075776 I think this is a better place to ask

[vagrant ivy]

or #1075091985007902812

[hearty python]

What does the modified main mister exactly? Some calculations that the core can’t do ?

[orchid nimbus]

access a romdatabase

take the 1st 4kb of a rom and generate the md5 hash

auto configure the core

[bronze tree]

yeah, we thought about it, if auto detect fails you need to probably set it manually, although we could reset the CIC to 6102 for example

[chrome quest]

Got it working. I tried Hello World and noticed it was also no longer working.
Hard Reset MiSTer. Back into core, Hello World still would not work.
Hard Reset again, loaded SMS core, Hello World worked, then Yoshi worked.
Perhaps something about data not fully reseting in the core?

[carmine kettle]

where does the txt goes to what folder

[orchid nimbus]

@carmine kettle https://vampier.net/N64

read the instructios

[fringe sigil]

Hm. Booting roms does change stuff inside "System setings" (sets Rumble on for Starfox 64 and changes CIC for Super Mario 64). But I'm only getting a black screen.
I re-downloaded the MiSTer (main) and hex compared it just to make sure nothing is off.
Removed SD instead of FTPing it over so the system has a fresh boot with the new MiSTer main. The core isn't dual SD ram dependent is it?😅

[orchid nimbus]

they are all over the place @carmine kettle

[carmine kettle]

im getting 6101

[fringe sigil]

Same as your rom folder (media\fat\games\N64)

[worn delta]

Ah, so the new MiSTer Main with CDDA for 486 will overwrite this unstable Main as it is newer - so nobody run update script, that is what will have got me

[orchid nimbus]

I wish people would know about this secret option that discord has - scroll up and see the same answer about 25 times already 😄

where do i put the txt file

https://vampier.net/N64/

[vagrant ivy]

so where do I put the database ?

I am unsure

[bronze tree]

if the settings are being set correctly, it's not the MiSTer main that is the problem

[carmine kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[orchid nimbus]

@vagrant ivy up your........

[cerulean elk]

lol this is what you get for helping!

[vagrant ivy]

That doesnt seem to have worked 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

but I bet it felt good 😄

rofl.... you troll

[vagrant ivy]

So when is Quest 6 4 working ?

[orchid nimbus]

it works fine on an emulator running on a pi3

[vagrant ivy]

whats a Pi 3 ? is that a type of bicycle ?

[worn delta]

Cool, good to know. Assuming will be added down the line. Which rom pack did you go off of for the database?

[quick arch]

The PI3 is more powerfull than an N64 😉

[orchid nimbus]

@vagrant ivy it's the successor to the MiSTer it runs PS2 too!!

[vagrant ivy]

oh I must get one.

I heard it can run a 4090 emulator too

[bronze tree]

no-intro

[vagrant ivy]

A good choice !

[viscid gate]

Try manually setting EEPROM to 4 or 16k & reset?

[worn delta]

I will have to look again and see what is all in and not in no intro. I don't like it as it is just a mess of a folder with everything in it. htgdb is nicely split into folders, you can see what is in it on the sheet I made. Is ideal for testing

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8/edit#gid=0

[orchid nimbus]

@worn delta GET WITH THE PROGRAM! 😄

[chrome quest]

Working on/off now, without any EEPROM edit. Seems after loading a few ROMs I can sometimes end up with N64NICCC failing. Fine as long as I load after a full fresh reset

From my experience, even all setup correctly, there is some fine detail in what happens after I experiment with a few games

[fringe sigil]

@worn delta Just edit the htgdb py scripts checksums to match no-intro. You'll probably be done in time for non-unstable release🤪 Jokes aside I see your point why you'd prefer the htgdb set to match. But hey. It's a hard knock life for us and so on 😛

[worn delta]

I really don't like the no intro pack, it's just everything in one folder jumbled together and everything is a .7z file

[chrome quest]

Micro Machines 64 getting well into the menus before crashing

[kind nimbus]

So what are you all planning on doing for controller to play these games 4real

[orchid nimbus]

I don't like goodMSX - I still use it as a base

feel free to provide the md5 over the frist 4096 byte values and corresponding mappings

I'm sure they can be put into the database

[worn delta]

Is it the same dumps in no intro as HTGDB?

[bronze tree]

as long as the images are the same it shouldn't matter. But if they are different it would be very interesting to find out why.

you can get md5 hashes of the first 4 kb for a file with (for example) dd if=file.z64 bs=1024 count=4 | md5sum

[worn delta]

Probably makes sense to carry on testing with the htgdb pack, and if something doesn't work then can check the hash

[carmine kettle]

as of right the core support z64

[worn delta]

both no intro and htgdb are .z64 big endian (for the most part anyway) although no intro is all individually .7z files

[carmine kettle]

is there a converter

[worn delta]

To convert what to what?

[carmine kettle]

v64 to z64

[worn delta]

I would seriously just download a different pack, it will make your life a lot easier

[cerulean elk]

what @worn delta said. You will spend exponentially more time converting then re-acquiring

[worn delta]

I can't imagine there is anything that is .v64 that isn't also in htgdb or no intro pack as z64

[brisk edge]

it's like 12.5 GBs for the full set. But to answer your question, yes, you can convert v64 to z64, there are many converters out there

[carmine kettle]

thanks

[cerulean elk]

12.5 GigaBrians. For the quest of it!

[chrome quest]

Kirby 64 starting signs. Can see Adeleine before crashing

[bronze tree]

actually, I added code that converts n64 and v64 files to the correct (z64) format

The core needs to be changed to allow these file extensions, but you can try it by renaming your file to .z64

I take the md5 checksum after converting the data, so that should be no problem (I tried with a v64 file)

renaming the file is just a hack, but I don't look at the file extension to determine if the data needs to be changed (code copied from ares)

@wanton sun reminder to add n64 and v64 extensions 🙂

interestingly the loading doesn't feel any slower with all this converting and hashing going on in the background

I always create a hash of the whole file in the end, but that could be optimized if the header hash was already found in the n64-database.txt file

@carmine kettle can you test if it works for you if you rename one of your .v64 files to .z64?

[hearty python]

I will wait, stable mister got so nice updates today 😁

[lament escarp]

When I want to return to the stable mister, do I just need to execute update all or is it better to manually restore mister.old and reboot?

[worn delta]

If a ROM isn't in the database is there a standard thing that will happen, or a specific error code?

[viscid gate]

I renamed a .v64 to .n64 and it worked for me

[carmine kettle]

do i need to replace anything?

[fringe sigil]

No error afaik. But it won't change the System settings for you, so that's a way to tell if it's recognized or not

[bronze tree]

great 🙂 (assuming you mean .z64)

[worn delta]

I would still strongly suggest just downloading an up to date pack we know works i.e. htgdb or no intro

[carmine kettle]

np

it works

[bronze tree]

you will get an on screen message "auto-detection failed"

[carmine kettle]

batman i change it, it boot up black screen audio works

then freeze

[worn delta]

Nice, that makes things easy, will see if any comes running through htgdb

[cerulean elk]

Six to one, half dozen the other. Both achieve the same goal

[lament escarp]

English isn't my first language, but I'll take that as a "yes"

[cerulean elk]

Sorry yes…just a little “slang” for “either way accomplishes the same goal”

[lament escarp]

Thanks a lot. I actually enjoy some slang, but sometimes I need to be sure 😄

[cerulean elk]

Generally I just run update_all personally when I want to get back on Main but I keep multiple MiSTers around for multiple purposes and one is usually on unstable

[orchid nimbus]

ok cool - everything cooled down

[chrome quest]

@lament escarp You weren't exaggerating about Pokémon Stadium 2. Gets amazingly far through all the menus. "Who's that Pokémon?"

[lament escarp]

It became a whole different game 😄

[orchid nimbus]

government redacted game

nice

[chilly ember]

Is that pidgey?

[lament escarp]

A quick question about winSCP, it has nothing to do with the SCP foundation right? Would you even be allowed to tell me?

[cerulean elk]

Batboy

[native mesa]

Slendeman

[chrome quest]

I cannot emote letters! Need to make this a hangman version. Pidgey is warm..........

The very "neutral" 😐 (CD?) Whatever that is? Got this Pokémon BANNED!

[hearty oar]

That’s Gd for “ground” I’m pretty sure

That’s the type chart

[chrome quest]

Yeah, that'll be it. Pichu's one true weakness.

[hearty oar]

Although that doesn’t make a lot of sense looking at the other columns…

Oh right it’s resistances, doh

Electric, flying, steel

Checks out

[orchid nimbus]

I just access my mister by typing ssh://[email protected]/media/fat/

no binary stuff - no filezilla

[barren rain]

This was fun and it worked perfectly with the N64 Controller for the Switch (the bluetooth one). But I couldn't connect all the buttons (had to choose between stick or d-pad).

[hearty oar]

I never though to use mdns with my MiSTer, that’s a good idea

Here I am mucking about with static IPs…

[thorny marten]

Thats what i did with mine gave it a static ip

[chilly ember]

I just stick to FileZilla, never had any issues with it transferring to mister

[hearty oar]

It works fine as long as yeah, you make sure to tick that binary file transfer setting

[orchid nimbus]

@hearty oar I run opnsense - I am in control 😄

[fringe sigil]

MAC adress reserved IP adresses is the way I go ❤️

[orchid nimbus]

too bad that MiSTers all have the standard MAC address out of the box

[thorny marten]

I run linux so. im not afraid of the terminal but I still like using a gui for transferring files

[orchid nimbus]

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[velvet nexus]

pretty damn neat. I wonder if you'll run into a snag mr. spass... this is the impossible core after all

[orchid nimbus]

I got too many things here

[velvet nexus]

I don't envy you vampier

but you do a fantastic job

[orchid nimbus]

at making an fool out of myself 😄

lol

[velvet nexus]

nah, I remember when you did the PSX documentation, was a great boon

[orchid nimbus]

sometimes you just have to document the stuff so that people stop asking the same question over and over again

[velvet nexus]

and you decided to be the guy.

so, that's commendable

even if you make a fool of yourself 😄

[fallen sparrow]

Hi all,,
I've been out for the day, I see there's a new core in test builds. Do more games boot into game now?

Thanks in advance

[orchid nimbus]

@fallen sparrow going forward check #test-builds

[velvet nexus]

I think so, PCN the channel kind of blew up in the last couple hours or so

[orchid nimbus]

@fallen sparrow also https://vampier.net/N64/

see auto configure

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks

[fallen sparrow]

Yeah, a lot to catch up on

[velvet nexus]

still kind of blown away to see this in progress

N64 is the one system that I'd like to see on the mister, since software emulation never quite seemed to fully nail the system

I'm hoping if concessions have to be made to fit it on to the mister it isn't similar to the same concessions made in software emulation.

[cerulean elk]

You blowing up today? Lol

[lament escarp]

So far it all looks very good. Robert managed to optimize the rsp down to 6k alm, which was his target before starting and the fpu down to 3k alm, which was also estimated at 6k.

[velvet nexus]

oh, damn, that's fantastic

[fallen sparrow]

Doner Kebab gas was too much 💨

[cerulean elk]

Oh wait the N64 channel. Nvm. I thought maybe you had a video hit

[fallen sparrow]

lol

Not yet

[velvet nexus]

AW you run the esoteric channel, right?

[orchid nimbus]

Astrogastic

[lament escarp]

My secret wish is for a n64/gameboy core crossover for pokemon stadium. If enough alm stay unused you could make a transfer pack out of it and load the savefile from the gameboy core.

[velvet nexus]

I'd play that

[fringe sigil]

That would actually be amazing. One can dream😄

[fallen sparrow]

That's him, the one and only

[velvet nexus]

you keep filling up my phone notifications! My girlfriend is convinced another woman would want to talk to me because my phone blows up so much!

and I like your little pointer you use to point at random items in your videos

"the sega saturn" points at the only item in frame...

[vague sun]

This new N64 core build looks nice!

I wish I would of waited a day for my stream

I'll just do another one once another update comes out

I kinda miss the glitching and stray pixels 😆

If anyone ends out coming up with a list of games that are playable with the new CIC build, please let me know and I'll do another stream.

[snow mulch]

Is the new build running anything. last video i saw just a mess.

[fringe sigil]

Idiot me just realized what was wrong. My PIF bin was named boot.bin instead of boot.rom😂 For anyone else who might see this and are experiencing a similar problem; If you're not getting error E004 in your top left with Error Overlay enabled, and everything else is working like I explained in my previous comment; Check your games\n64\boot.rom 😛

[cerulean elk]

Yep that’s me

The fool behind the foolishness

[velvet nexus]

pleasure to meet you! I've been keeping up with your stuff for awhile

[cerulean elk]

Appreciate that!

[languid dune]

Awbacon: The man. The myth. The legend.

Pixel Cherry Ninja: The pixel. The cherry. The ninja.

[whole tulip]

What exactly? Deleting the firmware file at runtime?

The updater will only override the firmware when there is a new firmware release btw

A way to prevent installing the new firmware when it is updated is to filter it out in downloader.ini

[cerulean elk]

I’m not a myth. I’m a real boy

[whole tulip]

After filtering it out and running the updater (you'll see it's deleting that file). You'd have to install and manage the firmware manually

[cerulean elk]

I exist!

[carmine kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-fake-liar-fraud-alert-gif-14431169

[cerulean elk]

The rumors aren’t true. I am not advanced retro gaming AI

[whole tulip]

And btw, the filter for matching exclusively the firmware is "misterfirmware", so what you'd have to add to downloader.ini is:

[mister]
filter = !misterfirmware

[orchid nimbus]

Autobuilt the core 🙂 once the code is in mister git

[whole tulip]

Ah sure, I'll be happy to do that

[thorn flax]

oh no he's hot

.gif

[old vortex]

I also back No-Intro as the ROM pack of choice. Among other reasons, all the PIFs are included. I never understood the confusion people had trying to find them. Haha.

[cerulean elk]

People are used to finding bios files solo as downloads. Weirdly N64 doesn’t seem to do that file wise

[old vortex]

Ah, fair enough.

[cerulean elk]

You find them bundled in stuff which isn’t the normal

[brisk edge]

the pif files are also available in the ares repo still

[fringe sigil]

I'm on team htgdb. The sorting system is just so nice. And I'll bet most if not a lot of people are already using that set for flash carts. But what exactly are the differences between the two? Are they byteswapped vs. non-byteswapped or something? Or is it just the config stuff that the database file handles that's preventing the roms from running?

[old vortex]

Sorry, I didn't mean to start a debate again. People should use whatever they want to. 🙂

The difference is No-Intro is every original cart, HTGDB includes rom-hacks and fan translations and such and sorts them into folders like game series, etc.

[brisk edge]

if they're both .z64 then the roms should be the same, at least like you said, the original releases

[worn delta]

Look at the date they were added, it was only a few days ago...

Which is good though, as before that they were not easy to find

Personally I hate that everything is individually zipped as .7z (does MiSTer even unzip those now?) So you can't see what the file format is, and is all just dumped together in one folder: US, Japanese, PAL, arcade conversions, 64DD, bios files, tech demos... All dumped in one folder

[old vortex]

I can see changes made to that DAT in May for those PIFs, so they were definitely in there earlier than a few days ago.

[worn delta]

If we do need a separate BIOS for PAL then dropping it in the PAL folder isn't an option when everything is in the one folder

[old vortex]

Actually the earliest one was added in 2016.

But I guess replaced at some point with a better dump, if I'm reading this right.

[worn delta]

It's the same dumps in no Intro and htgdb pack, so regardless of which you go for they will all wind up in the database at some point. So it is down to preference if you want them all .7z in one folder, or unzipped in a sensible folder structure

[brisk drum]

Crap what I miss ?

[topaz otter]

the ftp program?

I think it predates the SCP thing by about twenty years

WinSCP (Windows Secure Copy) is a free and open-source SSH File Transfer Protocol (SFTP), File Transfer Protocol (FTP), WebDAV, Amazon S3, and secure copy protocol (SCP) client for Microsoft Windows. Its main function is secure file transfer between a local computer and a remote server.[4] Beyond this, WinSCP offers basic file manager and file synchronization functionality. For secure transfers, it uses the Secure Shell protocol (SSH) and supports the SCP protocol in addition to SFTP.[5]

Development of WinSCP started around March 2000 and continues. Originally it was hosted by the University of Economics in Prague, where its author worked at the time. Since July 16, 2003, it is licensed under the GNU GPL. It is hosted on SourceForge and GitHub.[6]

[elfin relic]

the protocol itself has been around for even longer

and actually these days it's probably using sftp and not the scp protocol, but the utilities themselves like winscp and just plain ol scp keep the name around

[topaz otter]

personally I use it to ftp games to the hacked xbox

since the ftp server is built into the dashboard

[languid dune]

Everything. You missed everything.
New core build! New main test build! New new new!

[weary palm]

I use WinSCP as my main way of transfering files to my MiSTer

[brisk drum]

Anything showing actual graphics yet ?

https://youtu.be/HlYk8Mzj2lo

HOW DARE HE !

[weary palm]

Booo! RTG's a phony!

[languid dune]

A lot of new games booting because of the cic matching for games that didn't use Mario Kart's code.

Not a ton with new visuals, but definitely some.

[languid dune]

Heathen!

[weary palm]

Obviously not a man of taste

[brisk drum]

Rise up against RGT!

[brisk drum]

If I wasn’t up to my neck in generals and troops on dragon force I’d be testing

[languid dune]

For Dragon Force, it's a worthy sacrifice.

[marble cargo]

So I'm trying to use the Nintendo 64 WIP core for the first time, and I need a PIF ROM file according to the GitHub page.

But for some reason I can't find the files anywhere. Am I missing something?

[brisk edge]

if you check a certain archive, they were added recently. They're also just floating around with ares' source code on github

[marble cargo]

Found it.

[vague sun]

With any large rom pack with collections and hacks I'll usually unzip, remove all the stuff I don't want, then zip up. Not a big deal.

[marble cargo]

Suseme! Taisen Puzzle Dama tries to boot, but it immediately locks up on a pixel diarrhea screen.

Puyo Puyo~n Party does the same thing.

[thorn flax]

daily reminder

[zenith orchid]

perhaps with complete RDP and TLB?

Seems like it would be premature to see what sorg says if it's not at least feature complete 😄

The Saturn core is practically there

[topaz otter]

laughed pretty hard at this

I pretty much avoided this title in the 90s because I could tell from the ign review that it was pretty low effort

[brisk drum]

If I ever see RGT in my barrio he will definitely be confronted about his opinions

[topaz otter]

memes aside its a pretty mediocre game

[brisk drum]

In all seriousness I actually bought it from a Walmart bargain bin .. same place I found glover

[topaz otter]

most unrented games I saw at blockbuster were glover and rocket robot on wheels

[brisk drum]

I’m looking forward to playing rocket robot on wheels on the core , missed it as a kid

[topaz otter]

there are unfortunately a lot of games on the n64 that weren't system sellers but were decent games

but due to camera issues or framerate issues, which they were stilll figuring out at the time, a lot of them got overlooked

there were also a lot of bad games for that system and IGN wasn't kind to them either

it became a game of opening up the review and guessing which ign staffer drew the short straw to review this weeks bland drab n64 fighting game

if it was matt cassamasina you knew you were in for a wild ride

[cerulean elk]

Castlevania suffers this fate

I stand by them being good, inventive and ambitious games that are better than the PS2 era stuff

[topaz otter]

the first castlevania game suffered from looking and playing like those beta screenshots of ocarina of time

there might be some good gameplay in there but damn if that game doesn't look primitive as hell. The difference between it and ocarina is only a few years but it might as well be the difference between caveman art and the mona lisa

i remember firing up that game and then picking up a bag of 300 gold and then immediately picking up some roast beef

[marble cargo]

I still stand by that the overall Nintendo 64 library is mediocre.

It has several strong titles, but once you dig through a lot of the third party stuff, that's when the cracks start to show.

[topaz otter]

I agree

games like chopper attack are fun for the first few minutes

then you notice that framerate, the blurry visuals

[orchid nimbus]

the n64 focussed too much on 3D which fankly was not feasible with the carts

[topaz otter]

then you notice just how hard it is with the clunky unresponsive controls

[orchid nimbus]

yeah 3D was all the hype

Silicon Graphics was all the hype

in the end the N64 failed to deliver

1st party games were good

but my god.... the 3rd party junk

[topaz otter]

the challenge in beating third party n64 games is the endurance test of how long you can play them, not the game

[mild ether]

Reporting in that Vivid Dolls sadly still doesn't load.

[topaz otter]

whats the goal of this game

[elfin relic]

to vividly see a doll I imagine

[mild ether]

It's a clone of Qix. Line drawing puzzle game.

[topaz otter]

wait I'm reading about it now, if you win you get to see b bs

[mild ether]

Like Gals Panic series or Miss World 96. It's actually a fairly fun concept.

After the first level is complete you do.

[twin barn]

Where's @bronze tree at? 😏

[topaz otter]

oh

I just remembered I have the interact wheel and pedals

but not the N64 version, I have the PC one

used to play interstate 76 with it

[hearty oar]

N64 didn’t have a light gun did it?

[topaz otter]

I don't think so, there was too much moral panic about gun shaped toys in the 90s

[hearty oar]

Quick google says no

[twin barn]

Nintendo had gun shaped toys during the panic, just needed an orange tip

[topaz otter]

its why the scan your face feature was taken out of perfect dark, they were afraid of kids scanning peoples faces into the game and using it to practice for a school shooting or whatever

[hearty oar]

Yeah, just touched on this earlier in #1046940919607345272, the official Dreamcast light gun was never sold in NA because of school shooting hysteria

And the games won’t even boot if you have it plugged in

Have to use a third party gun

[topaz otter]

weird

[mild ether]

The US military used a SNES for gun training back in the 90s with a light gun sensor in an actual dummy rifle. I just barely got outbid on a auction for one like 20 years ago.

[orchid nimbus]

hey were can I find the faceless mario 64 patch?

[mild ether]

Pinned comment

[topaz otter]

in a steven king novel

which is where it belongs

[orchid nimbus]

someone asked for it 😉

[thorn flax]

dreamcast really couldn't catch a break. after the light gun debacle they then had to lock away the aerial dogfighting game; cause 9/11 happened just 2 weeks prior to launch

[topaz otter]

i cant look at it, I have whatever that phobia is

[hearty oar]

Propeller arena right? The leaked version is really fun

Shame it didn’t go ahead

[thorn flax]

yes, played it online too

[topaz otter]

this is crazy because terrorists didn't fly prop planes into the wtc

[hearty oar]

There’s a tasteless joke about jet fuel here somewhere

[mild ether]

And melting steel beams?

[topaz otter]

whey didn't they delete randy quaid from independence day also

it was just silly the things that got banned\removed in the wake of 9/11

remember the first trailer for the tobey mcquire spiderman movie has his web a helicopter between the world trade center towers

[orchid nimbus]

faceless mario has a face!

[topaz otter]

thank god

[orchid nimbus]

just not the creepy full screen one

[cerulean elk]

Lol people are gonna start thinking that’s current core in like 60 seconds

[mild ether]

They didn't stop selling MS Flight Simulator which I do believe they actually used to train for the attack.

[topaz otter]

I gotta take pills to forget faceless mario's haunted visage

[topaz otter]

your right, but they did remove the world trade center from it

[mild ether]

They did? I didn't know that.

[topaz otter]

yep

and the first thing we did when buying the game

is to mod it back in

[topaz otter]

so we could fly a 747 into it for the lols

[orchid nimbus]

this is totally REAL! trust me bro

[topaz otter]

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/flight-simulator-will-lose-twin-towers-1065867.php

[orchid nimbus]

they just wanted to keep it accurate

same as here

[mild ether]

Lol, was my first thought too.

[orchid nimbus]

they removed the indian and kept the land (as remarked by my native friend)

[mild ether]

That's a good one.

[topaz otter]

they should have put a mountain in the background of the original

and then in the second one turned it into mount rushmore

[orchid nimbus]

nah an oil refinery

[mild ether]

Land o lakes is a real place in Wisconsin.

[topaz otter]

when you go to see it is there a giant indian in the way so you can't see the lake

because thats whats depicted on that box lol

[mild ether]

Can confirm.

[orchid nimbus]

in San Francisco homeless people are now blocking the road so that people can't pass

one way street

they won't move until you pay them

[topaz otter]

sounds like capitalism

[orchid nimbus]

🙂 yup

[mild ether]

Real life trolls

[worldly flint]

See a need, fill a need.

[mellow terrace]

Is that the latest build???

[orchid nimbus]

yes

it's amazing

[mellow terrace]

Sweet!!!

Downloading now

[orchid nimbus]

you're joking right?

[mellow terrace]

Lol

Guess you got me

If there’s someone who frequently accomplishes the impossible, its fpgaazumspass, lol so I never know

[quaint rune]

Yeah I was fooled for a second too

[mellow terrace]

I would have settled for a rick roll 😂

[languid ore]

Ya know, when people were talking about UFOs and then talking about how aliens were here, we have their tech, etc. I didn't believe them. Then I've seen what FPGAzumSpass has done and I am a true believer. 👽

[mellow terrace]

Word

[vapid hawk]

yeah but the aliens are just here to learn from him

[wanton sun]

thank you, totally forgot that yesterday, will do it with the next build

[wanton sun]

when at least 1 of the more popular games is well playable, so it has some value for the users that don't want to dig into textureless worlds crashing every few minutes 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

I think it would be cool to see Mario 64 without textures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUKZ0u2K9I0&t=38s

oh god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF9Iodt3Irw

without perspective correction

[latent dagger]

I know I'm super late to the party on this, but the PSP also has a MIPS processor

PSP core when?

I actually am curious as to how much more complicated the PSP would be to FPGA

[lament escarp]

Don't think psp will run on the de-10. But I'd be happy have a clever fpga programmer proof me wrong.

[hearty python]

PSP cpu clocked at 333 MHz, another 100 MHz more than N64

[hearty oar]

PSP is in that class of system where it is already really well served by software emulation, and you would arguably much prefer that, with HLE graphics that can easily be upscaled, filtered, anti-aliased, texture-replaced, etc

as cool as an FPGA recreation would be just for its own sake

[lament escarp]

Just play it at 67% of it's original speed and call it a pal version 🤡

[slate sundial]

Latest N64 CIC build with the appropriate MiSTer main, and the N64 database in the games/N64 folder:

• Bangaioh (JPN) - nothing
• Bust a Move 2 - menu crash
• Castlevania Legacy of Darkness - nothing
• Doubutsu no Mori JP - menu crash
• Doubutsu no Mori ENG patch - nothing
• FZero X - nothing
• Goldeneye - nothing
• LOZ Majora - corrupt menu no crash
• LOZ Ocarina - nothing
• Mario Golf - nothing
• Mario Kart 64 - boots and cleaner looking in-game
• Mario Tennis - nothing
• Mickey's Speedway - nothing
• Mischief Makers - nothing
• NBA Hangtime - nothing
• Ogre Battle 64 - nothing
• Paper Mario - menu then crashes
• Perfect Dark - nothing
• Resident Evil 2 - attract mode video runs, then crashes - if you spam start you can begin a game but it crashes after "Residennnnnt Eviiiiiil"
• Star Fox 64 - attract mode runs, in loop, with no crashes - and the game is playable (with a lot of audio munching and crunching)
• StarCraft 64 - Menu loads, but crashes upon player start, and crashes upon going into attract mode
• Super Mario 64 (unpatched)- "it's a meee Marioooo" and then crashes
• Super Smash Bros - nothing
• Tsumi to Batsu (Sin and Punsihment) - menu audio screeching, no video, then crashes
• Turok 1 - some polygons flicker then crashes
• Turok 2 - nothing
• Turok 3 - nothing

(all ROMs USA version, I won't say where I acquired them as not sure about the rules on that - in an unrelated anecdote I heard some old ladies saying the beer tastes good at a bar called "vimms lair", I might try it this evening)

[orchid nimbus]

Did you upgrade mister main and the n64 database?

[viral swift]

what's the current core version? the pinned version seems outdated 🙂

[slate sundial]

N64_cic shows v230816 in the scroller when core loaded

[viral swift]

can someone pin the post with the download link?

[languid dune]

#test-builds message

Make sure to read the instructions.

[viral swift]

ah, thanks!

[oblique remnant]

Since when Bangai-o got an US Release ? I got at least sound and the game was running in the background

[slate sundial]

my mistake, it's a JPN ROM

[oblique remnant]

np , it felt great maybe it was just randomly working. A lot of games behave now like that. it's a great start 🙂

[slate sundial]

Yes it's flakey, but I'm happy to be on the ground floor and watch it develop. The PS1 core development process was fascinating, I learned so much.

[weary palm]

You find that one creepy?

[chilly ember]

The most stars I've been able to get so far before a crash in super mario 64 is 4. I almost had 5 but it crashed just as I got the penguin to the mom in cool cool mountain. Tried out Jolly Roger Bay but it crashed as soon I got in the level

[inner bronze]

That is damn impressive already

[lament escarp]

Im curios how much the rsp speed will affect the crashes when that gets fixed.

[quasi storm]

Got an error while loading Ogre Battle 64. Nice...

[fallen sparrow]

@chilly ember I've got an N64 video releasing in under 3 hours. I've used some of your footage in the video. Thanks for the permission.

[chilly ember]

No problem, apologies it had to be crappy phone footage 😅

[fallen sparrow]

Nah, I added it to a section of the screen, and trimmed above and below, it looks good.

[chilly ember]

Can't wait to watch the video

The day when we can get to the first bowser will be glorious

[native mesa]

Honestly anything after console Gen 5 seems unnecessary

[lament escarp]

Nah if gen 6 would also be nice. But after that yeah.

[fallen sparrow]

@native mesa morning

[native mesa]

Good morning..

[native mesa]

I guess Naiomi then too

[hearty oar]

I think the future of emulation for early 3D systems with whacky graphics pipleines that don't quite match those we have today is essentially software rasterization by way of compute shaders

we've already seen that approach used to great effect with parallel RDP for N64 emulation

[vapid hawk]

ps2 is really the only obviously outstanding one

dreamcast/gamecube/xbox emulation is all pretty good

[fallen sparrow]

Dreamcast emulation has too much input lag

[vapid hawk]

even on a high end pc?

[fallen sparrow]

It's very noticeable in 2D fighters

[fallen sparrow]

Yeah

[hearty oar]

I don't have too much experience with DC emulation just because the original hardware is so accessible

[solemn maple]

Dreamcast is so easy to mod with an ODE and it is not too expensive either

[native mesa]

Yeah and the atomiswave ports are dope

[fallen sparrow]

Even with lack of DC experience, the lag is apparent

[fallen sparrow]

I think it's everything I want along with it that'll pile the cost

[chilly ember]

I've hardly ever bothered with dreamcast emulation, I ended up just buying a Japanese dreamcast and stuck a GDEMU in it

I'm happy with it

Noctua fan mod and it's beauty

[weary palm]

I compiled a version of SM64 that skips the face and goes straight to a level select screen if You want to try it out. IPS here:

[hearty oar]

yeah it's so easy to get and install an ODE, and super crisp video output is super easy to get seeing as it supports VGA and RGB out of the box, no modding required

[vapid hawk]

don't we already have that pinned?

[chilly ember]

Level select?! 😮

[weary palm]

@vapid hawk does that have level select though?

[vapid hawk]

oh level select? nice

sorry missed that detail, very neat

[weary palm]

no problem 🙂

[vapid hawk]

@zinc dew pin plz

[chilly ember]

I'll check it out soon

[fallen sparrow]

Nice

[weary palm]

you can't really tell what level you select though, because of glitchy textures. use pc emulator for reference so you know what buttons to press (up/down).

[chilly ember]

I can always use the ever drive and N64 :p

[weary palm]

press "up" five times and press start for final bowser stage 😉

Glorious

[vapid hawk]

exactly as miyamato originally intended it 😄

[weary palm]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-simpsons-sick-agony-frog-gif-19977859

[cerulean elk]

That’s how I remember it? 😂

[dire wren]

does the n64-database.txt file go in the same folder as the n64 roms? I added the new mister file and put the n64-cic in the unstable folder. When i boot the core and load a rom, black screen. this is on every game now. I'm assuming i put something in the incorrect location? Can anyone help with this?

[fallen sparrow]

I was high when I played it

[fallen sparrow]

Put in N64 folder, not a sub folder within it make sure it's named as shown in Roberts post in Test builds channel

[worn delta]

It sounds like you aren't on the minster main unstable, I had similar issue yesterday and it had been overwritten by the lastest main by running update afterwards

[brisk drum]

“Don’t mind me just trying to exist “

Omg this is bonkers!

[weary palm]

Nice. First time making a .ips patch I think.

[dire wren]

.txt file is saved as "vampier.net_N64_n64-database.txt" in the n64 roms folder. New mister was moved over. New n64-cic being booted. now get "auto-detect failed" and a brief boot from Super Mario 64, but then crashes after 2 seconds. Is the auto-detect failed error correct?

[remote hatch]

n64-database.txt is correct name

vampier.net/n64 is site from you can download file

[brisk drum]

So we got textures now ?

Ok I’m tired on being out of the loop .. I go to bed and wake up to a ton of excitement

[dire wren]

Gotcha. i originally tried it with that name and only got black screen after loading rom. i changed it to the full address, which i am assuming is why i get the error message. I'll change it back to as you show it. And that does go in the usb0/games/n64 folder (which where i have my roms) correct?

[remote hatch]

yes ,corect

[dire wren]

Ok, cool. Thanks. Its now booting much like it did on the prevoius release a few days ago. games only load about 3 seconds and fail. Is this a mileage may vary type of situation with the core currently? I know others have said they can boot more games than before, but mine doesnt seem to be the case.

[chilly ember]

Sometimes you have to reboot entirely after a game and things will start to work

[dire wren]

Alright, i'll keep messing with it. Thanks for the help @remote hatch and @chilly ember

[orchid nimbus]

@dire wren https://vampier.net/N64/

this website is being kept up to date at all times

so if things change you can find them here

[weary palm]

Is there a fallback if the rom you're loading isn't in the database?

[twin barn]

Manually setting the options

[weary palm]

ok

[cerulean elk]

gonna do some capturing here in a min

see whats good

[odd vector]

the progress until now looks really amazing, very impressed

[worldly quartz]

finally my 8bitdo 64 kit is shipped. Now to buy a hopefully defective n64 controller

[nova grotto]

Thanks I didn't know about that channel

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296

[worldly quartz]

anyone know if the 8bitdo kit works well with the n64 blue retro lol

like no remapping

[cerulean elk]

you know you arent awake yet when you think you messed up the swap on MiSTer files and then realize two minutes later you didnt put the SD card back into your MiSTer lolol

[ornate obsidian]

Happened to me aswell, so I feel ya

Freaked me out

[cerulean elk]

too early to start working lol

up and running now

cause ya know...I put the fucking card in 😆

against my better judgement I am going to teach people the new core install methodology

@orchid nimbus i will mention renaming the file that saves as Windows does want to save it with more text than it needs

[chilly ember]

Make sure to remind people to put their sd card in the mister

[remote hatch]

and power on

[cerulean elk]

lol the hardest part

lol Tom and Jerry is a trip

but a more clear trip now!

[orchid nimbus]

what? 😄

[chilly ember]

More text than it needs

[orchid nimbus]

make sense

I don't get it

save what file and more text?

[cerulean elk]

when you save the file the file NAME windows assigns to it is not what the core wants

right click and hit "save as"...its pulling your website NAME down with the file

[orchid nimbus]

seriously - the fuck is wrong with Edge

[chilly ember]

What browser?

[bronze tree]

maybe it's an Edge thing

[chilly ember]

I used edge

[chilly ember]

Not edge thing

[bronze tree]

curious

[orchid nimbus]

not a chrome thing either

[chilly ember]

Opera

Gx

[bronze tree]

aha

[chilly ember]

Thing

[orchid nimbus]

I run Linux because of telemetry

[cerulean elk]

thats Opera. Discord auto opens Opera for Discord

I just never reassigned the default browser to chrome

but I know some people will come across this 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

there is your problem

[chilly ember]

Of course

It's the gamer browser

[bronze tree]

just use curl 😛

[orchid nimbus]

you run windows and opera

[cerulean elk]

lol...no accounting for specs

[orchid nimbus]

I am about to write a damn script that does just that

[chilly ember]

Hahaha

[cerulean elk]

I use Chrome primarily

[bronze tree]

btw, I can fix the MiSTer binary to include the latest changes from master, but how often will we have to do that and where should I put it...

[orchid nimbus]

webpage updated to add that tidbit about the filename

You can download the file here (right-click save as n64-database.txt)

[bronze tree]

@orchid nimbus I should have named it .bin 😛

[orchid nimbus]

you should have kept it consistent and named it N64-database.txt

[cerulean elk]

ill be sure to be specific about it. Before 15% of everyone loads it into their folders with the long form name

[bronze tree]

there is even the risk of windows changing the line-endings from UNIX to DOS format

[orchid nimbus]

the dir name is N64 and not n64

not when right clicking

@bronze tree my OCD is triggered

[bronze tree]

well, I wanted to say "it's not too late to change it", but since there are now even online tutorials on how to use it...

@orchid nimbus if MiSTer is case insensitive when opening the file you can rename it to N64-database.txt and put a symlink to the old name..

I will test it

yes, works 🙂

@orchid nimbus quick, fix it before there is any more damage 😄

[mild ether]

@orchid nimbus what do you use to get the values for this list?

[orchid nimbus]

I used @bronze tree

[bronze tree]

and I used python (can share the script after cleaning up a bit)

[mild ether]

Okay thanks.

Want to add iQUE and Aleck 64 roms.

[orchid nimbus]

@bronze tree you picked the first 4096 bytes for the md5 hash

[bronze tree]

I'm not sure if the script will help with that, although it will default to "something"

[orchid nimbus]

does it also suppor the full md5 hash value?

[bronze tree]

yes

I added support for it, but didn't test it to be honest

[nova grotto]

Mainly for CRT use , the reason is that instead of changing real analog cables it would be useful to have an option that enables the end user to change between different qualities (composite/s video/component) , some people used to play in their real hardware using composite so some people using component would like to play Mister in composite quality as well to feel in more authentic like their childhood , I know that there's already adapters for getting the exact composite quality (or S-video) you'd like to play with but being able to change between those resolutions on the fly from Mister's Menu (like in the genesis core with the composite/composite blend thing) instead of changing real cables or buying some specific\extra adapters would be a nice option to have imho , unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to help with that , if it's not a priority now hopefully someone else in the future could implement that idea in your core or the other cores as well 🍻🙂👍

[chilly ember]

I'd be happy with just having analog component support

[bronze tree]

@orchid nimbus there seems to be a bug

(the full hash that I calculate doesn't match the actual hash of the file)

fixed

[devout leaf]

He didn’t say he didn’t know what it would take to implement in the core not why. Right now priorities are getting the core working.

[chrome quest]

Also if PSX, best put in that channel.
N64 analog can wait a while yet for sure

[mild ether]

I am sure he will add analog video once he is done with the RDP.

[chilly ember]

Agreed as much as I'd like analog for the JVC D Series tv's

[mild ether]

I mean I hope it fits or I won't be able to have Vivid Dolls in my arcade cabinet. 😱

[plush summit]

I see analog video as a nice to have feature rather than mandatory, I believe the MiSTer's focus was always HDMI/Digital

[chilly ember]

HDMI is more important in this case because HDMI mods on original N64 hardware are so expensive, even trying to a acquire the mod is difficult

[mild ether]

I never would have bought one if it didn't do analog video tbh.

[chilly ember]

Gotta get use out of the old crt's. I'm in the same boat

[cerulean elk]

VO done, noted about the n64 text file name weirdness depending on browser

[chilly ember]

I'm not giving up my analog for dual ram

[mild ether]

I grew up playing this stuff on CRTs so it just doesn't give the same nostalgia with digital.

[chilly ember]

I like old hardware for analog support and that's the main reason I kept It around it the past but mister has changed that

[plush summit]

@mild ether @chilly ember Fair, but you should keep in mind that if a core doesn't support analog, its 100% on you for taking the risk rather than the community

[chilly ember]

Oh yes I'm not going to be upset if N64 doesn't get analog support

I still have an N64 and ever drive and I can run s video all day

Component is the dream, if it can't happen, I'm happy with HDMI

[mild ether]

Nobody owes me analog video just stating the facts.

[plush summit]

Yeah, I gotcha, analog video is awesome to see, there's obviously a demand for it

Ideally, if this core does support it, everybody wins

[fallen sparrow]

I added your website to my latest video description

[fallen sparrow]

Same in chrome

[cerulean elk]

I am more waiting for betalog video. Maybe even Gammalog. Or Epsilonlog

[topaz otter]

The psp is also already portable

And can run 90% of the things the de10 can run already

The de10 hardware in the psp form factor would be

[orchid nimbus]

thanks

[fallen sparrow]

Amazing 😍

[quaint rune]

There’s textures now ?

[cerulean elk]

I got into the bowser fight with level select. Some freezing. But the castle area looks so much better. Got into some other games that would just fail off the top too

Got to hear “Resident Evil…2” before that crashed

[languid dune]

I hate how all the remakes removed the classic title screen voice.

It's just not Resident Evil without hearing "Resident Evil!".

[oblique remnant]

Its called Biohazard anyways 😀

[vapid hawk]

i think re:make still had it

but yeah

[languid dune]

Yeah, the modern remakes don't do it. Even the new original games like RE7 and 8 don't do it.

A crime against humanity it is!

[vapid hawk]

its kinda crazy how different all the RE games are

and yet i pretty much like them all

[languid dune]

All the new ones have been great honestly. With RE3 remake being the weakest one, but even that was still fun.

[vapid hawk]

i think there's maybe only like, some of the gameboy/gba type ones

that are kinda just too crappy for me

[cerulean elk]

It’ll be interesting to see how teaching people the new core setup format tomorrow goes. Def unique in the MiSTer process outside of maybe the xml for Neo Geo

[languid dune]

It'll be chaos, and you'll have people complaining that your directions didn't work, even though they didn't follow them correctly.

It's destiny.

[chilly ember]

That txt file is gonna be awful

[pallid falcon]

"So I added some random letters and stuff like the other entries have and [homebrew game] won't load. This sucks."

[orchid nimbus]

A: Good! you deserve it

@pallid falcon

added to the FAQ

[orchid nimbus]

oh yeah 🙂 let the butchering begin! 😄

[zenith orchid]

I still don't know who said there would never be a PSX core. I thought it was always considered to be feasible.

[wanton sun]

sorry, had some 10 hour work days recently...will continue working on rsp stuff this weekend. The RSP fulfills the system test again and mario kart is already working and rendering much faster, but i somehow broke audio, so i have to fix it before i can upload. Hopefully this weekend

[zenith orchid]

Glad to hear RSP fulfills the system test again. Can't wait to see what this weekend will bring us. 🙂

Considering how busy you are, do make sure you still have your me-time and family time

unless of course this is your me-time 😄

[topaz otter]

this is like if AI was asked to draw mario 64

[zenith orchid]

so I'm guessing the n64-database will be a thing for all future builds?

[mild ether]

When I got my MiSTer I remember people saying Neo Geo was a stretch. I really never expected anything beyond it and was pretty thrilled that Turbo Duo and Neo Geo were added.

[lament escarp]

Wait, again? Something I missed?

[cerulean elk]

Lol take your time. We can’t even keep up with the current stuff 🤣

I for one don’t do anything on weekends. Or else I’d do stuff way too often

[zenith orchid]

@lament escarp

[zenith orchid]

It definitely appeared to be a stretch, the sdram modules made it possible

[lament escarp]

Thanks. Didn't catch that ons. 2-3 times speed sound good!

[zenith orchid]

Oh for sure!

[zenith orchid]

On that note I think it had to do with how Neo Geos would load the entire game at once, and they were pretty hefty.

[unkempt vortex]

Playin some StarFox64 on thr core. Love it.

[orchid nimbus]

Graphics 1/10

Gameplay 8/10

Too much water

[zenith orchid]

I'm guessing after RSP optimizations, texture loading will be next

[cerulean elk]

I made a comment for tomorrows video that the current core makes it feel like the N64 was released in 1993 with 1993 tech

it has that pixelated early 3D vibe going on and I kinda love it

[orchid nimbus]

@zenith orchid you really want to play Mario kart 64 lol

[lament escarp]

I kinda hope robert doesn't add too many render modes too fast when the rsp learned to behave, so we can savor all the different stages of jank.

[cerulean elk]

I enjoy the jank more than the finished core

[daring meteor]

lmao

[zenith orchid]

tbh, I never owned and never really played it except for a few times when one of my college buddies invited me over. I'll definitely play it to catch up on all the lost time, but I'm moreso interested in SF64

[orchid nimbus]

It’s a fun game

[zenith orchid]

I see that, considering how much fun people are having with it even in its current state

[daring meteor]

brb gonna add when the core is done an option to disable random texture modes so games appear janky

[zenith orchid]

really says a lot about the game

[languid dune]

Jank N64 is best N64. It's also just....regular N64.

[lament escarp]

That sounds like a fun idea, but I wouldn't want to steal alm from features like analoge video and transfer pak.

[daring meteor]

I mean, not as something to be merged, but as an alternative version (I don't really think many people will want a mod which breaks stuff)

[zenith orchid]

you might be able to use something like gameshark to make the game tell the RSP it's using a different texture mode

that should really jankify any game

[daring meteor]

Gameshark is enough?
Huh, alright

[fallen sparrow]

I didn't know I'd like Jank so much either, until I tried it. What is wrong with us lol

[cerulean elk]

jank is the way

its the path

[fallen sparrow]

This is the way!

[pallid falcon]

Alex Kidd loves jank(en)

[fallen sparrow]

Alex Kidd is Jank and I love him

[pallid falcon]

I only like one AK game and that is Shinobi World

The recent remake is okay though, from what I've played of it

[fallen sparrow]

That's good.
Miracle world is my favourite, as it was built into my master system, so I played it a lot

[pallid falcon]

That's some intense janken

[fallen sparrow]

This is the way

[chrome quest]

As a fellow lover of built in Alex Kidd I agree (... but please, do not give me a 60Hz remake. My brain. It cannot take it)

[pallid falcon]

Shame we never had a 3D AK game

[fallen sparrow]

Yep, I played the PAL version too

[nova grotto]

Which is the game you all are most waiting for to see it working ?

[fair stump]

probably Shadows of the Empire

[remote hatch]

wave racer

[deft tree]

i replayed it recently and it was a good time

i forgot how varied the levels are from one to another

[languid dune]

I'm not a fan of the remake. It has that awful Unity Engine stuttering problem. Same issue that the ActRaiser and Wonder Boy: Returns Remix remakes have. They do not have smooth scrolling. It's a common problem with Unity games where the developer ties the camera to the character. It can fixed, but the developer has to do that during development. And when they don't, those are the results.

[languid dune]

For me, it's Mischief Makers. One of my absolute favorites on the console.

[nova grotto]

Not gonna lie wasn't part of my childhood (N64 in general except Mario Kart and Banjo when visiting my friend's home) but looking forward to see the cutscene intro of that game and play it 🙂

[languid ore]

I never did get all of the gems in that game for the full ending. I remember on one of the bosses I threw a rock at him and killed him in 1 hit and got the special (green?) gem for the level. To this day I have no idea how I did it. I am sure there are guides online now on how ot get all of them but as a kid I had zero access to that. Just stumbled my way through the game. One of my favorite N64 games for sure.

[fallen sparrow]

Rogue Squadron

[vagrant ivy]

Quest 6 4

[topaz otter]

when I think about rogue squadron I think about all the ways you can play that game, most of them bad

low res N64 og hardware

an ancient PC 3d accelerated port

a bad steam pc port

and it probably works on an emulator now but for the first ten years of project64's existence, it did not

and battle for naboo is even worse because it wasn't ported at all

[fallen sparrow]

Whenever I've tried it via emulation, I've been disappointed

[mellow path]

@wanton sun as you develop more and more of the core, do you feel more confident or less confident about eventually being able to run games accurately and at full speed? (Even if it's just non-TLB games)

[orchid nimbus]

TLB - Translation Lookaside Buffer

I guess no goldeneye

[thick terrace]

we're not getting Goldeneye?

[native mesa]

I thought worse case scenario some things could be offloaded to Linux side

Like the 486 core

[thick terrace]

anything new today?

[unique coral]

not until weekend, robert is bussy with work.

[weary palm]

Isn't it much to early to say what will work and not?

[orchid nimbus]

TLB is a pain in the ass to debug - but let’s see what happens first - most of the games I want to play already boot

So @weary palm you’re right - a bit early

[mellow path]

Yeah I was just curious on Azum's vibe more than anything

[fringe sigil]

I just want to throw in a big thank you to everyone contributing to this core and all the stuff around it. @bronze tree, @orchid nimbus and everyone else. And of course to @wanton sun. Thank you for all your amazing work. I love the MiSTer project so much and N64 is my favorite console, so having this amazing DE10 board that I've owned for so many years already actually running this console is mind-blowing to me. Keep up the good work everyone ❤️

[orchid nimbus]

I don't do much - I just am a parasite documenting stuff and shoehorning myself in there

[pallid falcon]

That ActRaiser remake was horrible. The stuttering as you say, and they added tower defence sections. I cannot recall juddering in AK, but I literally only loaded it up once and played it for a few minutes.

[fallen sparrow]

Documentation is important, and you make it easily accessible

[cerulean elk]

A beneficial parasite. Like the birds that eat the bugs off the rinos

And I’m one of those bugs that takes the place of a tongue in a fish 😂

@fallen sparrow I’ll assign you the role of tape worm. Because I ran out of parasites I know. But it’s a positive

[fallen sparrow]

I'll take the role 🫡

[orchid nimbus]

my youtube channel for MSX used to have 1250 subs

then I quit

the channel is still there posting mister stuff without comment

[snow mulch]

crosses fingers for some playable games for the newyear atleast.
Maybe will take longer. seen Pixel Cherry Ninja video. Still a mess.
I own a n64 with a everdrive. So i can wait a bit.
WOuld be neat.

[orchid nimbus]

@snow mulch I'm optimistic that in a month we might be playing Mario Kart 64

for real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRmEb_kik-E

ignore the sound - capture card doesn't like the core audio

[languid dune]

My black boxes version will always be real to me...in my heart. 🥹

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-aww-aww-shucks-gif-19287617

[thick terrace]

I feel like this all the time, what can I do?

[brisk drum]

NowI I feel like I missed out ..

[cerulean elk]

More black boxes tomorrow am. And I’ll teach people how to assemble the core (and help in comments when they get it wrong!)

[languid dune]

You did miss out. Now feel bad and sit in the corner.

[brisk drum]

That’s it ! You wanna street fight me bro?

[languid dune]

Bring. It. On!

||You'll kick my butt...||

[cerulean elk]

I got $10 on @languid dune

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/death-battle-geese-howard-geese-howard-heihachi-gif-21222759

I would wreck both of you

[languid dune]

I'm Geese right?

[brisk drum]

Nah dawg

[cerulean elk]

I’ve only been in one fight in my life and I wasn’t planning on it. But I won so…undefeated baby!

(Broke someone’s nose too 😂)

[brisk drum]

Lol woah Dude! Im not trying to physically fight you

Just a street fight

Or a garou

[languid dune]

I've never actually been in a real fight.

[brisk drum]

Last blade 2 …perhaps?

[cerulean elk]

I should say dude was drunk, I was not, he telegraphed a punch and I just head butted him so. Easy victory

[brisk drum]

K.o

[cerulean elk]

Lol oh we weren’t talking about actual fighting? 🤣

[brisk drum]

I know you guys have to have a ps4 or 5

Fite me

[cerulean elk]

Someone thought a group of people I was with laughed at someone. They did not. So some drunk guy decided he had to fight about it. Stupidity

[languid dune]

But at the cost of a few brain cells. The ones that would have told you not to spend so much money on collecting esoteric arcade boards.

[cerulean elk]

Knocked the financial sense right right out of me!

I’ll go ice my brain with a rare board from the freezer

[brisk drum]

3DO sucks!

[cerulean elk]

Here comes real fight number 2

[languid dune]

Whoa whoa whoa. That's taking things too far.

[brisk drum]

Grab that m2 and throw it out the window

Punt it !

[cerulean elk]

Lol I’ve got 13 now. Better bring extra feet

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/bringiton-woman-bigdaddy-gif-25299900

[languid dune]

This spiraled out of control quickly.

And just after we made up in the Saturn thread.

[brisk drum]

Where’s Robby! He needs to make sense of all this!

I do apologize for saying 3DO sucks .. it has road rash ..

[cerulean elk]

We give each other shit because we love

[languid dune]

I'm sure there's an ointment for that rash.

[cerulean elk]

Also when channels get slow

[cerulean elk]

Killing Time…the goat

[brisk drum]

I honestly wish we had a 3DO core and a cd-I core

Both those libraries are a big blind side for me when it comes to retro gaming

[elfin relic]

it's better to stay blind to the cdi

[languid dune]

I genuinely really want a 3DO core. I actually got a 3DO on launch day. $700 baby!

[cerulean elk]

3DO has some must owned IMO

[delicate condor]

the games I like on 3DO have better psx versions

[languid dune]

Then I stupidly sold it for $500 a few years later.

[brisk drum]

Omg ..im sorry

Did you like your 3DO?

[languid dune]

I did. I wish I hadn't sold it.

[cerulean elk]

Killing Time, Gex, Blade Force, Doctor Hauzer, Escape from Monster Manor, Road Rash, Need for Speed, Cannon Fodder, Captain Quasar, Space Hulk,
Lucinnes Quest, D

[brisk drum]

Cannon fodder !

[delicate condor]

Return Fire

[languid dune]

It had the best home port of Super Turbo for a long time. Plus some hella good EA games.

[cerulean elk]

Killing Time is still personally my favorite retro console game of all time

[brisk drum]

Isn’t return fire on the Saturn as well?

I need to play that

[languid dune]

The Horde was also quite good.

[delicate condor]

don't think so

[mellow raft]

Is it wrong if you are a Patron of Robert to ask for the latest N64 build without compiling it. I had the compiler installed and compiled one a few versions ago.... but I uninstalled it since... it took ... so much space lmao

like jeez why do development environments have to be so large

[languid dune]

Isn't that just on Github?

[mellow raft]

Um... pretty sure he doesn't publicize builds yet

Just the source code

[languid dune]

You just want the rbf?

[mellow raft]

if you wouldn't mind...

probably best to DM though

[elfin relic]

I'm not sure if there's really been any changes published since yesterday #test-builds message

[mellow raft]

I don't want people reporting things back to him

[languid dune]

#test-builds message

[mellow raft]

That's fine. This is more just for fun haha

Oh... I didn't know that was a thing

[vapid hawk]

rob doesn't do patreon exclusive builds afaik

[languid dune]

Just make sure to read the directions. This installation is different than the usual.

[brisk drum]

The Saturn core is enough for me rn

[mild ether]

3DO was the best way to play SFII at home at the time.

[brisk drum]

I have beaten 12 teams in nba jam tournament edition ..

The jazz will reign supreme

[brisk drum]

If it wasn’t for the cps2 core I would have never bought a mister

[mild ether]

It's pretty amazing, I got a second MiSTer just for an arcade cabinet because of that.

[worldly quartz]

Wish I had space for an arcade cab

[quaint rune]

dont say that, your free space loves you

[mild ether]

They do have a habit of becoming multiple cabinets after you get one.

[worldly quartz]

yeah, that's what I said about controllers now I have shit ton of saturn, ps1, dreamcast controllers

is memory pak/cart saving supported yet?

[cerulean elk]

Don’t feel bad. I don’t have a cab. Just a pile of boards

[worldly quartz]

Oh whenever I feel bad, I dislike your videos jk lol

[native mesa]

What is the reversed audio at the beginning of them. I'm lazy

Is it phil Collins?

[orchid nimbus]

Mister mister https://youtu.be/nKhN1t_7PEY

[mellow raft]

I recommend everyone try Star Fox 64 Rev A

Surprisingly.... actually plays somewhat ... xD

Somehow saved Slippy xD

The audio plays mostly fine surprisingly

[native mesa]

I think starfox 64 was a bit of a disappointment compared to the original

Starfox EX is like the pinnacle of fan hacks

[native mesa]

Something's wrong with the G diffuser