Nintendo 64

[zenith orchid]

is the mk64 intro crash tlb related?

[viscid gate]

Robotron64 also starts but hangs

[wanton sun]

mario kart no, mario64 yes

[zenith orchid]

ah ok

yeah it makes sense that texture modes are at the top of the list

by the sounds of it, starfox 64 may be playable with that much. who knows how far though

[viscid gate]

Wetrix also shows something if you button through

Tetrisphere starts but hangs

[quick arch]

with the save state of Quest 6 4 we can hear the music 🙃

[viscid gate]

It begins…

[zenith orchid]

alright, it's bed time for me. be back in a bit

[oblique remnant]

I think I manage to get in first place in MK64 first track but not sure it hangs afterwards 🙂

[zenith orchid]

@wanton sun congratulations on what you've accomplished so far! have fun!

[wanton sun]

good night 🙂

[fallen sparrow]

Good morning, and wow, what progress to wake up too.
@wanton sun, an absolute star

[trim seal]

I think I speak for all of me when I say...holy sh*t!
I did say that out loud quite loudly, and may have earned concerned enquiries from my daughter and partner, but...worth it.

[oblique remnant]

Wayne Gretzky also runs 🙂

[hearty python]

Do N64 30 or 60 fps for normal?

[oblique remnant]

30 but that's not even normal 😄

[hearty python]

Okay. thought for 4 player screens the output on a single screen would be higher.

Also Impressed by the clear sound on this early state

[daring meteor]

Let's goooooooooo

We're in

[quick arch]

😅

[polar raft]

Holey Moley!!

[fallen sparrow]

I can't get anything working.
Any ideas?
I'm in a single SD RAM

[little socket]

Many whished they'd even reach 30...

[trim seal]

I'm using single ram too. Getting the same results as others - Mario Kart 64 USA has the opening logo, if you spam start, you can get into the game, messy as it is.

Namco Museum working as before.

Mortal Kombat 4 has no graphics but some music.

[foggy stirrup]

wetrix (j) runs and can be played

[fallen sparrow]

Btw, are you guys on stable MiSTer or unstable?

[trim seal]

I'm on latest unstable

[foggy stirrup]

same

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks

Let me update

[quick arch]

the core will work the same with last stable

no unstable update for N64 core

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks

[trim seal]

Wetrix USA working - you have to press a button when the music starts, but the title screen comes up for a bit then crashes. Music keeps going.

Then turns to static. :p

[hearty python]

So if mister n64 reach constantly 30 FPS, it is better as real n64 ? Sounds possible for me

[fallen sparrow]

Btw, does it make a difference if it's .z64 or .n64?

[silent marten]

Donald duck no longer hangs after pressing start and plays the audio

[trim seal]

Oh hey, I got into game in Wetrix USA briefly, crashed after a few drops.

I can almost get to the title screen in Turok.

[old vortex]

I just "played" this for a few minutes. That was certainly an experience.

[silent marten]

Don't tell basketsnake but an Elmo game plays music but with a black screen

[fallen sparrow]

Anything I need to adjust in OSD?

[trim seal]

Rayman 2 (USA) has the splash screen and goes to title screen - you can start the game but it goes dark and the sound goes super-crunchy. Still, pretty freaking awesome to see signs of life on some of these.

[quick arch]

Z64 is big endian. For the moment the core support only big endian

[silent marten]

Hexen, title screen shows but black screen in game

[quick arch]

no ajustement is required

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks

Nothing is working for me lol

[quick arch]

With Super Mario 64 patched rom but it hangs when we try to reach the castle

[fallen sparrow]

I'll try and get some more z64 conversions

[old vortex]

Do you have the boot rom/bios in place?

[quick arch]

have you set the pif => boot.rom

[oblique remnant]

PAL Games have sped up music (Wave Race 64) 🙂

[fallen sparrow]

Oh no lol

Doh

[old vortex]

Haha. That should be all you need to do then.

[fallen sparrow]

Does it go in games folder?

[wanton sun]

i have it in the n64 folder, but games/n64 should also work i guess

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks Robert

[wanton sun]

yes, PAL timings don't exist yet, so you get PAL60 basically

[oblique remnant]

Each ROM Version gets different results actually the Lodgenet one runs the longest 🙂

[wanton sun]

it looks like... a horse?

[silent marten]

This is some insane progress, thank you Robert

[quick arch]

second test I managed to get on the castle but it hangs.

[daring meteor]

Speaking of PAL, you maybe wanna do the BIOS name change you mentioned a bit ago

[old vortex]

Ooh, Snowboard Kids gets some music playing after a few seconds.

[wanton sun]

yes, mario64 hangs random. I managed to get the first star from the dog once and go to the slide in first floor, but it's all black 😅

[silent marten]

Starcraft 64 goes further

Plays all splash screens a few seconds of music then hangs on a black screen (maybe FMV decoder??)

Tetrisphere plays the N64 animation and some music then hangs

[lament escarp]

Did anyone test oot yet? Any life signs?

[silent marten]

I tried it but no signs of life

[hasty kayak]

I get no signs of life with Mario Kart 64 USA 😦

So I must be missing something

[silent marten]

You got pif rom Dave?

[hasty kayak]

ahh of course

Without that, nothing runs. I have got to remember this is like having a Real N64 out 🙂

[silent marten]

But this is getting really far really fast

[hasty kayak]

hmm ok I am struggling to locate a PIF rom 😦

[silent marten]

2 days ago Robert says no games in August....

[oblique remnant]

another early JP Only N64 from '96 runs slightly (Eiko no Saint Andrews)

it's really those early released games that use the same modes I guess that works slighly (Chou Kuukan Nighter Pro Yakyuu King JPN Only)

[weary oyster]

I look forward to seeing videos of weird glitches.

Reminds me of the earlier days of the Saturn (or was it PSX core?).

[silent marten]

Tom and Jerry is errmmm playable? If you like playing cat and mouse with flat squares 🙂

[weary oyster]

I think there was a 3D fighter where Player 1 and 2 get KOed at the same time on round start.

[loud pebble]

@wanton sun This is incredible. Well done.

[silent marten]

OMG Robotron 64 plays music 🙂

[blissful plaza]

Turok - Dinosaur Hunter - tries to boot and goes to the Iguana logo (without 3D model).
Mystical Ninja - tries to boot and freeze after a second, we can see part of the Konami logo spinning on the screen.
Mystical Ninja 2 - boots and locks on a second white screen (which is the Konami Osaka logo without being correcly rendered).

Starfox 64 goes in-game.

Same as the others on Rayman 2, Donald, Namco Museum, Mario 64 (head patch).
Nothing on the two Banjo games, Killer Instinct and Perfect Dark (as least I've tried 😏).

Already a giant step for N64 on the MîSTer, impressive work so far!

[silent marten]

I can do a barrel roll in Starfox 64 🙂

Rugrats plays music

Unfortunately Buck Bumble still doesn't do anything

[chrome quest]

Crashed in Lylat Wars to see if anything Rumbled. Not yet. Could just about make out the ground 🤣

[silent marten]

Powerpuff girls boots

Goes in game

This is some crazy progress

[oblique remnant]

nice but crashes very soon in game

[silent marten]

Yup

We are not expecting anything different right now though 🙂

[marble cargo]

What about Mischief Makers?

[oblique remnant]

doesn't work yet unfortunatly

[cold pollen]

Hey guys

I found the perfect controller

https://m.aliexpress.us/item/3256805648948809.html?srcSns=sns_Copy&spreadType=socialShare&bizType=ProductDetail&social_params=21106787967&aff_fcid=6633c294a6494322acca67578513513a-1691924644246-05409-_mPlikua&tt=MG&fbclid=IwAR39yHBIoWHZQbPhmfUMeo4cE5WsSMQa0ZGZdEBxQHqm0HgIta9h5LIx9cM&aff_fsk=_mPlikua&aff_platform=default&sk=_mPlikua&aff_trace_key=6633c294a6494322acca67578513513a-1691924644246-05409-_mPlikua&shareId=21106787967&businessType=ProductDetail&platform=AE&terminal_id=e123994266ec489ea6c91e5a2e225589&afSmartRedirect=y&html=static&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

You're welcome

[fair stump]

Extreme G loads but there is a prompt with no text I can't pass

[oblique remnant]

if you press start fast in wave race you can actually start a race but then crashes

[fair stump]

Extreme G

[oblique remnant]

looks like its opening the controller pak menu ...

[fair stump]

Pressing A would make it go away and come back. Like it was checking again for something and failing

I'm just gonna run through the usa collection I have and post anything noteworthy

[vapid hawk]

congrats on the milestone @wanton sun ! very cool to see

[lament escarp]

NO!

[quick arch]

Some log of dev team of Clay Fighter

[fair stump]

Crazy to actually be hearing music now

[fallen sparrow]

Have you tried one. I'm not sure about the placement of the analogue stick

[cold pollen]

Hell no 🤣

[blissful plaza]

You can select down and validate with the A button to bypass the Memory Pak screen, the game goes to the main title and crashes.

But we can hear about 5 seconds of music.

[fair stump]

Bust A Move 2 shows a few splash screens then gives the controller pak message. I can choose to continue without saving but can't get past the following screen if anyone else wants to try

[blissful plaza]

Same, I've tested just 5 mins ago.

[fallen sparrow]

I'm half tempted, but I gotta say, the Dpad looks bad

[marble cargo]

We can go wider.

[zinc dew]

Our European and Asian friends are amazing ❤️ Thanks y’all for jumping headfirst into testing!

[fair stump]

Hexen loads a 3D spinning title screen

[stoic parcel]

Ooh, big progress this morning.

[sharp ermine]

Anyone tried f-zero 64?

At work atm

[fair stump]

Fzero X giving me a black screen

[vapid hawk]

anyone tried RE2?

[mild ether]

Vivid dolls work yet?

[fair stump]

Not working for me

[vapid hawk]

then it is not yet time for me to install the core 🙂 thanks for checking

[wanton sun]

just a hint when trying games... you can look for the savetype in this list. If an entry says SRAM or Flash, then it most likely will not work yet, as most games check the savefile right at bootup

https://github.com/ares-emulator/ares/blob/master/mia/medium/nintendo-64.cpp#L69

[mild ether]

Vivid Dolls isn't on the list. 😔

[silent marten]

I need to patch my Mario64 rom soon 🙂

[zinc dew]

Sorry, out of the loop, but what does patching achieve?

[vapid hawk]

its patching out the mario64 stretchyface screen

since it uses some obscure functionality the core can't do yet

[silent marten]

And then allows you to go ingame 🙂

[stoic parcel]

Lol.. silliness, Just wait for the core to run it later XD

[silent marten]

Never!!!!!

[stoic parcel]

hehe

[silent marten]

I will have both a patched and unpatched rom so I can keep an eye on the progress, then when the core can play the unpatched rom I will spend hours defacing Mario xD

[stoic parcel]

I wonder if any of my pleb 2D N64 games run yet

[silent marten]

Not really

I tried quite a few roms this morning with varying results

[fair stump]

MRC has a very abstract intro cutscene currently

[silent marten]

But give it another few weeks and the games that are currently booting will start to look better and play better

Starfox 64 currently doesn't crash but good luck hitting any enemies right now

[stoic parcel]

Robert sure is working hard on this. Thank you @wanton sun

You're a hell of a lot more useful than that other Robert, @zinc dew

[silent marten]

Ohh for sure, Robert is a legendary core developer

[stoic parcel]

;)

[silent marten]

Lol

[wanton sun]

unpatched mario64 will take much longer to be able to run, as i will not do the TLB any time soon

[placid quiver]

Anyone try Q 64?

[silent marten]

In your own time bro

[silent marten]

No change

I don't have the savestate though so idk if things are different with that

[wanton sun]

wark tested it. it will go to black screen and play the music

[silent marten]

@vapid hawk RE2 will be a lot longer before that will boot because of the FMV decoder that it uses

Maybe if Robert has that implemented in his emulator he could get you a savestate at the start of the game but I would expect it to still be very broken

[cloud peak]

Now I know why there was a crazy thunderstorm in NYC

[stoic parcel]

If it isnt Dracula Battle, its likely N64 FPGA development portent

[native mesa]

I want a Mario 64 with the features of Mario 64 DS

[hollow rune]

is there work on getting this into the PC port? I know it would be a massive effort

[native mesa]

I don't know. I mean the source code is out there so anything is possible I guess

[wanton sun]

i want a Mario 64 DS with the N64 controls

[native mesa]

You can

[hollow rune]

people always say playing it on 3ds gets the feeling right, but this is completely wrong since the analog is just being mapped to the digital controls of the software

[native mesa]

At least with analog controls

[hollow rune]

not really

There are 3 control options

one for the d pad

one for the thumbstick

and like a hybrid one

[native mesa]

It doesn't map to the dpad

It uses the touch screen 'analog' somehow

[hollow rune]

I tried it recently and this was not my experience

and it really doesn't sound like something Nintendo would do, because it would require a patch or for the 3DS to recognize what is going on

not sure if the wii u one is different

[native mesa]

Let me try to boot up my 3ds I can probably throw a quick vid in here

[wanton sun]

i tried a hack some time ago, but it wasn't great. I would want exact n64 controls. Otherwise it might be analog, but still different and muscle memory kicks in....

[hollow rune]

i would love to be wrong

like you will still have to hold a button to run and it will lock into one of 8 directions

HOonestly the thmubpad is the best way to play the game

you get used to it

[native mesa]

Only Dow side to these hacks are they take a million years to load the game

[brisk drum]

Woah! Big progress! Awesome

[hollow rune]

That's awesome

I did not realize that worked

My next question is how?

[native mesa]

The touch screen had full analog controls intended to be used with that thumb thing

[hollow rune]

That I know, but what tells the system to map the thumbstick to that

that is what surprises me

the little circle doesn't show up

[native mesa]

The circle shows up I think just out of bounds of the screen

[zinc dew]

hilarious

[hollow rune]

That is cool

This panda has been schooled

Thank you @native mesa

[zinc dew]

Who knew that Nintendo themselves had to prove to everyone that yes, Mario 64 was a better theme with analog controls

Because that game controlled like ass at launch

Playable ass tho

[wanton sun]

looks better than what i tried

it's on 3ds...does it work on citra?

[hollow rune]

https://tenor.com/view/stunned-speechless-golden-girls-blanche-devereaux-rue-mcclanahan-gif-22088067

[native mesa]

I honestly forget how I got it set up. I'll dig into it

[stoic parcel]

Im surprised someone hasnt backported at least some of the additions from the later Mario 64 ports back into the original ROM.

[hollow rune]

The 3D All Stars version is the japanese rumble version with localized text stuck back in I think

[stoic parcel]

So you can play as Luigi and all that other stuff on original N64?

[native mesa]

Here it is

https://github.com/shocoman/sm64ds_cpad_via_rtcom/

[hollow rune]

oh, so it wasn't in the original

that makes sense

but that's a great hack

[native mesa]

It's just an action replay code

So I assume it would work on citra

Maybe not "The patch uses RTCom, a custom protocol that utilizes two free 1-byte legacy RTC registers, to pass data between Arm7 and Arm11 in order to allow the game to use the Circle Pad for controls. It requires TWPatcher with RTCom enabled in order to work. At the time of writing, a detailed description of RTCom by Sono can be found in the comments of the gbatemp thread."

[lament escarp]

You just made my sunday again. After Robert already made it. What a great day.

[silent marten]

@cerulean elk bro you seen the progress today?

[trim seal]

Chameleon Twist does some interesting stuff.

[hollow rune]

The way he gets out videos so fast, I assume there is a Piep signal for him

[trim seal]

Corrupted title, goes "in game" per se but nothing recognisable.

[zinc dew]

That’s basically my review of the game:

”Chameleon Twist does some interesting stuff.” 6/10

I unironically like that game lol

[hollow rune]

how do we feel about the redesign of the characters between 1 and 2?

[zinc dew]

Is that the one where they Americanized them?

[hollow rune]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameleon_Twist#/media/File:Chameleon_Twist_Cover_Art.jpg

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51A0DW85CPL._SY300_SX300_QL70_ML2_.jpg

[stoic parcel]

I looked through all the SM64 hacks on RHDN and couldnt find anything that backported in the DS port's changes. Oh well.

[cerulean elk]

No just woke up

[trim seal]

Hot Wheels - Turbo Racing loads the first screen with a bunch of text that is so garbled I feel dyslexic, and as soon as you hit a button it freezes up - BUT it's the first game I've seen go into what looks like a high-resolution mode and actually do something.

[zinc dew]

@hollow rune Honestly I like the change. I’m probably in the minority but the original designs didn’t look like chameleons.

[cerulean elk]

whats up?

[zinc dew]

The sky

GOTTEM

[trim seal]

ZING

[silent marten]

Corrupt graphics, but more things booting

[cerulean elk]

ooh nice. Is there a new RBF linked I can grab?

[trim seal]

It's now in the test-builds thread.

[hollow rune]

I saw the older design first so I am a little attached to them

[cerulean elk]

thanks. Will grab later and do some captures

what boots? if there is some list It will help me speed things up...still sick as fuck lol

[hollow rune]

The video of the opening to Mario 64 that FPGAzumSpass got was amazing

[zinc dew]

Yeah it definitely has more appeal,

[hollow rune]

just scroll up

[silent marten]

Yeah we been discussing it all morning

[cerulean elk]

lol fine fine...I will sick scroll the thread

[hollow rune]

it is worth it

no face Mario is a beautiful nightmare

[silent marten]

But there is a lot of things that have changed in this one update

So far if you want something for your go ahead and listen for 45 seconds section of the video... Robotron 64 main menu 🙂

[cerulean elk]

noted!

[trim seal]

The Starfox intro is also impressively non-euclidean. Audio is impressive though.

[silent marten]

Yeah but that Robotron music is a banger

[trim seal]

True true

Snowboard kids, after a short while, kicks out some graphics and music too.

[topaz otter]

this looks like mario creepypasta

[cerulean elk]

will capture after my coffee

[marble cargo]

One thing I like about the Nintendo 64 is that it did have a good selection of gimmicky platform games.

Like Glover, Rocket on Wheels, Chameleon Twist, etc.

[silent marten]

Cool cool, I thought you might be interested in this update, this is defo the closest to a PoC we have had so far

[mild ether]

Don't forget to put GoldenEye dam in the preview pic for maximum clicks!

[topaz otter]

platformers translated well from 2d to 3d

[silent marten]

Lol, no don't click bait this video xD

[trim seal]

Powerpuff Girls - Chemical Extraction actually gets the rotating N64 logo going, music is clear. - even goes in game and is playable for a bit. Well "Playable" as most geometry looks like it's wearing a cloaking device, but the environment is rendering interestingly well.

[topaz otter]

do it and put a picture of that sssniperwolf chick in the thumbnail with a stupid look on her face

and some random image in the background

[cerulean elk]

lol its not easy making thumbs when you dont have anything to theoretically "show"

[silent marten]

Also @cerulean elk you will need to patch a SM64 rom with the patch in the pins to get it in game

[topaz otter]

and then put X reacts to X, click here!

[fair stump]

Waialae Country Club has a nicely corrupted intro

[topaz otter]

so what news is there about the core?

[cerulean elk]

the no face ips?

[silent marten]

Yeah

[cerulean elk]

got it

[silent marten]

🙂

At this rate we might even have something "playable" in time for August news 🙂

[cerulean elk]

but I thought six months? lolol

[silent marten]

Hahaha

[mild ether]

Yesterday it was no in game footage in August.

[wanton sun]

thumb is already here 😛 #1096015979055697940 message

[trim seal]

"Playable" is a spectrum.......

[wanton sun]

i only wanted the spinning logo to work, i never planned that the game shall go further 😅

[silent marten]

That is why I put it in quotations

[cerulean elk]

lolol horror thumbs

[silent marten]

I said it before and I will say it again bro, you are a godlike developer

[wanton sun]

i just had luck...mk64 really is very forgiving

[silent marten]

Now all I really want is Buck Bumble to reach its main menu 😛

But again in your own time Robert 🙂

[wanton sun]

you will have to wait i fear. mario64 and mk64 rendering correct is top priority for now

[silent marten]

That is completely fine with me

Maybe even by that time I will be lucky 🙂

[fair stump]

@cerulean elk Shadows of the Empire has a messed up crawl but you get to listen to the star wars fan fare. I recommend highlighting that

[zinc dew]

Quest64 should be part of that wheel house, it uses a lot of common rendering techniques that would be good to benchmark against for accurate baseline functionality

[thick terrace]

music and broken title screen in powerpuff girls

[mild ether]

I will wait patiently as possible for Vivid Dolls.

[zinc dew]

I may or may not have made that up

[silent marten]

Yeah it actually goes in game too but will crash after some seconds

[silent marten]

There more times you say the word quest followed by the number 64 adds 64 days of it not working hahaha

[cerulean elk]

cant. will throw copyright flag sadly

anything Star Wars music is a no go

[fair stump]

Oh I know 😄

[cerulean elk]

but first...time for coffee

[silent marten]

Yeah man have your coffee, I just had to let you know about this progress update 🙂

[fair stump]

Im pretty sure elmos letter journey gets a second into the real game before crashing

[silent marten]

Shhhh you will summon the basketsnake xD

[stoic parcel]

You need a crt for that

[fair stump]

Is he bad at spelling?

[daring meteor]

First we had "RSP done by the end of August", now we had "No in game footage in August", what's next?

[fair stump]

Yeah, looks like it can go a few seconds before crashing

[cerulean elk]

I’ll get a vid up for tomorrow. With my cold voice lol

[silent marten]

Sounds good to me and get well soon bro

[cerulean elk]

I’ve had this “not Covid” cold for nine days and it will not fucking let up. Ruthless

[stoic parcel]

Quit licking the ice cream at the supermarket

[cerulean elk]

Lasting longer because I dragged my ass out Friday night for this

Not missing Bruce Springsteen at Wrigley

[silent marten]

Very nice

[cerulean elk]

Especially not at the price of the damn tickets we bought 🤣

[silent marten]

I bet they were expensive

[cerulean elk]

They weren’t cheap or horrible…$150 a piece

Which for Springsteen at Wrigley Field feels fair

[hollow rune]

@zinc dew Thanks to you I am playing Chameleon Twist on N64. My mom wanted to see the Ice cream sandwich on the cover of the first one. It is very fun though

[fair stump]

Rayman 2 is unpleasant not sure if it's getting fully into the game before crashing

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun pinging you to see how the community can best serve and support you.

@vapid hawk + @remote hatch are community champions when it comes to testing for cores. Do y’all think we’re at a point where we can start rolling out one of your excellent spreadsheets?

Now that we’re seeing results in games. It’s a lot more accessible to compare contrast in builds to see what’s changed or improved.

[wanton sun]

i would probably wait a bit longer, but i cannot stop you. For now, i don'T need much help, i find issues i can work on quite fast and still have a list of 20 things or so that need to be implemented

[vapid hawk]

i think we waited for psx to be roughly feature complete before tracking bugs

its only useful once rob like, doesn't know what to work on

and i'm sure he has plenty roadmapped out still

[carmine kettle]

where do i get ips

[zinc dew]

Those are wonderful points. Thanks for your insight!

[silent marten]

The Mario one is in the pins

[zinc dew]

I’m here for y’all if you need to me do anything. I love keeping the excitement rolling! ❤️

[wanton sun]

there will be a point where knowing all games that never show anything but black is helpful, because they can be simulated easy, but this will still take some time

[carmine kettle]

thank you sir

[vapid hawk]

say the word and we'll spin up the test team 🙂

[silent marten]

You know full well I am ready for some mass testing 🙂

[thick terrace]

madden 64 has killer music

[fair stump]

Is that the one with all the incredible cheat codes?

[zinc dew]

Ok cleaned up pins. Should have what this channel needs. Hit me up if we need to put anything else. 🥳

[remote hatch]

I'm just a padawan , I didn't deserve such words

everyone here is a champion 🙂

[silent marten]

Robby not sure that needed a pin because the build is in test cores

[native mesa]

Classic Robby

[fair stump]

I'm just having a great time trying each game to see what happens 😄 it's interesting how some games don't work but others have graphically corrupt but still functioning menus

[cold pollen]

Kind of how I feel about this and the Saturn core lol

[stoic parcel]

I enjoy the little updates and testing things, I guess if people want to hack ROMs for the pre-release core thats fine just not my thing

[silent marten]

I love cores in this state and just seeing what changes per release

[cold pollen]

I really like following the progress but I'm not gonna jump through hoops personally. I'll experience vicariously lol

It's fun seeing you guys post updates and screenshots

[hearty python]

Seems that mk64 is one of the first games to be fully playable 😁

[native mesa]

That was his focus

[stoic parcel]

I keep interpreting MK as Mortal Kombat and not Mario Kart, sign of age I guess

[silent marten]

Lol

[wanton sun]

but n64 is a child console?

[stoic parcel]

Batty no know. Batty only pawn, in game of life.

[hearty python]

Most Nintendo consoles are for children

[stoic parcel]

thinks of time twist on the famicom disk system

Mm.

Anyway XD

[hearty python]

But that’s not mean that parents can’t get fun

[neat sierra]

That’s just because you haven’t found Brian’s secret sex dungeon yet

Keep looking

[silent marten]

@zinc dew found this and moved in lol

[hearty python]

Darkroom 😂

[vapid hawk]

its not like there's 0 adult games on n64

turok is pretty gory

[silent marten]

Like Conker's Bad Fur Day

[vapid hawk]

doom64

[hearty python]

Don’t remember but rating system was introduced in the 2000?

[stoic parcel]

ESRB was 90s in the US

[hearty python]

Ohh, usk was founded in 1994, thought it was much later

[worn delta]

Wow, incredible work!

[fair stump]

Olympic Hockey 98 pretty much gets to the puck drop then stops

[worn delta]

If people are wanting to log what boots now, here is the testing sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8/edit?usp=drivesdk

[stoic parcel]

It would be nice if people checked pins.

But do people really check pins?

[zinc dew]

Maybe? I just cleaned up Saturn PSX and this one

[hearty python]

Sounds to early for me to write things down

[silent marten]

@worn delta I will check the list when I get home and add my findings if they haven't yet been added

[worn delta]

Nice one 🙂

[cerulean elk]

hmm...not getting anything on the core

pif renamed to boot.rom in the N64 folder yeah?

[wanton sun]

yes

[cerulean elk]

it tried loading a rom, black screen, now no rom tries to load

[fair stump]

It appears rampage world tour is playing but is totally illegible 😄

[remote hatch]

Nightmare Creatures

[wanton sun]

check that your boot.rom is exactly 1984 bytes

games also need to be in big endian, e.g. z64

[cerulean elk]

they are z64. Let me check the boot.rom again

[wanton sun]

i'm sure we will find the issue 🙂

[cerulean elk]

yep. 1,984 bytes

I set up a new MiSTer for N64

used NTSC pif

[silent marten]

Hmmm, try a homebrew or Namco Museum to make sure it is working

[cerulean elk]

in Z64

[wanton sun]

hmm, the games are very efficiently compressed

[silent marten]

Why does it say your roms 0kb???

[cerulean elk]

oh fuck yeah thats weird

[vapid hawk]

lol

[blissful plaza]

Copy error.

[cerulean elk]

Dunno wtf happened there

cold brain didnt even notice that lol

that's a...weird error lol

[silent marten]

Lol

[cerulean elk]

gotta find a new source. They all keep downloading as oKB

[silent marten]

A certain archive is your friend

[hearty python]

Archive org, iirc

[silent marten]

Shhhh...

[cerulean elk]

twas archive giving me the business this morning...wonder if a server is down. They all save as Zero KB. Odd stuff

[silent marten]

Hmmm that is interesting

[hearty python]

Perhaps try one single rom for a first test

[stoic parcel]

Bad news, everyone.

Xeno Crisis does not load.

End of testing, no further point. Pack it up, head home.

[cerulean elk]

ok take 2 lol

[silent marten]

Good luck

[cerulean elk]

I have seen the spinning Nintendo logo on Mario Kart lol

[silent marten]

Woooooo

[cerulean elk]

froze from there lol

got it...beat start like it owes you money

lol my sinuses are so clogged I cant tell if the sound is muffled cause core or because my brain is filled with fluid

[languid ore]

Middle out compression, obviously

[trim seal]

Shadows of the Empire, after a long wait, plays the theme music and shows a starfield.

[cerulean elk]

Cant seem to steer though lol

[wanton sun]

analog only

[cerulean elk]

must not like my Switch Pro controller then

[wanton sun]

did you ever use analog with it?

e.g. in psx core?

[cerulean elk]

Feel like I did yes

[wanton sun]

then it should work 😦

[cerulean elk]

Let me reset it in main OS

[wanton sun]

the core uses the same analog signal coming from main as the psx core

[cerulean elk]

reset in main...testing again

[trim seal]

Bomberman Hero - goes into the introduction with music - hangs after a while but you can spam start and get to invisible menus, and make it through a bunch of menuing and game-start before it hangs.

[cerulean elk]

got it

[velvet nexus]

Sounds odd, but I'm mainly looking forward to Gauntlet Legends working correctly on a system I own

[trim seal]

Bust-a-move 99, you can hear the "Taito" logo sound but that's about it.

[cerulean elk]

just needed to rebind in main OS

[blissful plaza]

I've done my tests with the Switch Controller Pro, so it should work @cerulean elk

Okay, ninja'ed.

[cerulean elk]

dunno why it wasn't picking up analog but easy fix

Mario 64 feels like I am actually ON mushrooms...and not the get bigger kind

lolol...wild to see this work

[trim seal]

Bust-a-move 2 - Arcade Edition, you can get the two splash screens and the taito logo sound, you can get the "Controller pak not present" screen but choosing to continue without saving just loops back to it no matter which you choose.

[cerulean elk]

RIP compression lol

[fair stump]

The tetrisphere n64 logo intro is kind of a nightmare 😄

[cerulean elk]

ive never had so much fun playing such a "broken" N64! Great job @wanton sun

[hearty python]

The missing render functions for mk64 are the easier ones?

[wanton sun]

not sure

i never researched the mario64 render stuff. at the point i had the tlb working in my emulator, the game already rendered fine

[fair stump]

Tom and Jerry in Fists of Furry works almost as well as mario 👀

Just missing the actual in game characters

[ocean lily]

Qυεsτ64 plays music now ❤️

[cerulean elk]

trying SF Rush now

got some music

and some WILD graphics

[ocean lily]

Tetrisphere has music and tries to run the intro, but then slows down and freezes similar to old emulators

[trim seal]

Earthworm Jim 3D has the opening logo, music, demo runs with 3D environs - you can spam A and get into the game, but it hangs after a short while.

[cerulean elk]

Ok I think I have enough to cut a video for tomorrow...time to drink a gallon of honey tea to get my throat in order

sounds on SF sounds perfect

[trim seal]

Ok, nearly 1am. That's enough fun on a work night. Enjoy, other hemisphere. 🙂

[hearty python]

Results are much better than thought. Remember, Robert wanted only the rotated Nintendo logo 😁

[silent marten]

You got the Robotron64 music right?

[ocean lily]

Top Gear Rally gets to track selection before freezing

[cerulean elk]

I did. Got a few diff good music samples

I may use the Starfox intro for the example though

[silent marten]

Looking forward to the video tomorrow

[cerulean elk]

all I was gonna do today was sleep lol...now I am in Resolve

everyone please stop accomplishing things for a few days 😆

[silent marten]

No, Robert is probably going to go mad on rendering fixes for the games that are booting now

[cerulean elk]

dear @wanton sun slow down for 48 hours and I will buy you a case of Krombacher and a dozen landjagers

[fair stump]

Just finished testing the vast majority of usa games and these are the closest to being playable that I saw:
Olympic hockey 98,
elmos letter journey
Rampage world tour
San Francisco rush
Tom and Jerry in Fists of Furry

Everyone should check them out. Some really impressive stuff, especially tom and jerry

[wanton sun]

i will take a week off for your health 🙂

[silent marten]

Noooooo lol

[cerulean elk]

if my wife knew I was in my studio working and not laying down right now she'd kill me

[vapid hawk]

...taking bets Rob barely sleeps until MK64 is fully playable 😛

[cerulean elk]

her words this morning were "and seriously...dont do any work"

[silent marten]

Feel free to blame me hahaha

[cerulean elk]

I mean she wasn't wrong...I didnt even notice the glaring ZERO KB roms I was sending to my MiSTer lolol

[wanton sun]

honestly, do that. The world might be turning fast these days, but some days to cure must always be possible. In the end we are all humans and not machines

[neat sierra]

The algo eliminates all the bad parts of the games leaving you with what’s worth playing

[ocean lily]

hearing tetrisphere's music brings much great nostalgia

[cerulean elk]

Working honestly feels better. Gets my mind moving

[vapid hawk]

you heal like 5x faster asleep than awake

[velvet nexus]

As fast as you churned out that psx core I'm thinking that's exactly what a machine would say...

[wanton sun]

i'm honest with that. when i'm really sick, i stay in bed for some days. Afterwards it's usually better and i can't watch any more movies for 1 month

[lilac scroll]

The speed of this progress is absolute godliness, my word

[cerulean elk]

Ive watched every Indiana Jones, every John Wick and the entirety of The Lord of the Rings...my brain cant handle any more tv

[velvet nexus]

Not his first rodeo

[neat sierra]

So now he’s a god robot? I don’t know what to worship. Guess I’ll go back to placing strawberries in front of my basketsnake shrine

[cerulean elk]

Its hilarious how exciting it is to see Super Mario 64 corrupted AF...when Ive played the game a dozen times on a dozen platforms

still exciting as always

[cold pollen]

We should pin this

[ocean lily]

F-Zero X iQue version plays the opening guitar riff before freezing

[languid dune]

I wake up this morning to this insanity. Thank you so much for this amazing progress update @wanton sun !

To say that the last week has been exciting for MiSTer updates would be a massive understatement.

[cerulean elk]

and rendering...will be up tomorrow

[silent marten]

Wouldn't surprise me

Unless we somehow get a 2nd build today with it fixed 😛 (obvious joke)

[cerulean elk]

dear god no lolol

[silent marten]

Hahaha

[languid dune]

You just jinxed it. Congrats!

[cerulean elk]

I already kicked The Simpsons video edit to tomorrow

[silent marten]

Although it wouldn't surprise me if Robert is researching the rendering as we speak

[cerulean elk]

well either way this is what people are watching...theres a note with "at the speed Robert works...this may all be fixed"

[silent marten]

Hahaha 🙂

[cerulean elk]

its a setup guide for people who want to start testing too so of use either way

[languid dune]

I need to get on testing some stuff and let the visual corruption burn its way into my retinas. 👁️

[silent marten]

It is madness how much stuff actually boots, displays something or even has just music/game audio right now

[brisk drum]

What will come out first , the Saturn or n64 core ?

The race is on!!

[zenith orchid]

it not be worth noting which games won't boot due to absence of tlb, maybe they can be hacked, or testing in them could be skipped

Saturn is already feature complete, except for light gun support

[silent marten]

You mean to update all?

[brisk drum]

Yep

[zenith orchid]

I guess whenever he decides to upload it to the main repo

[silent marten]

Is a good question, more than likely Saturn as it is more or less bug fix mode now, but Robert speed could surprise everyone

[ocean lily]

I'd lean towards saturn, since at this point it looks to be mostly bugfixing and handling edge cases

[zenith orchid]

even psx wasn't without issues when it was added to update all, so it's really a matter of when he decides to add it

[silent marten]

Saturn does have some pretty huge bugs considering certain games work for certain people and not for others, N64 library is small and doesn't have CD related issues to deal with... it really is hard to tell

[cerulean elk]

3DO

[velvet nexus]

CDi

[hasty kayak]

Can we not just enjoy the ride and NOT put pressure on the FPGA Devs?

[zenith orchid]

considering how much RSP is left, and there's still the TLB. we'd have to assume that Saturn won't solve the bulk of its issues within half a year, if N64 were to beat out the Saturn

[velvet nexus]

I doubt he feels pressured

[hasty kayak]

You would be suprised with some of what is writen here..

[velvet nexus]

oh?

[silent marten]

We are Dave, I don't think it is meant to be presuring just harmless curiosity

[hasty kayak]

I am also counting on past experiences with the PSX core. I remember a lot of "Oh man this doesn't work, when will this work?"

[velvet nexus]

well I'd never intentionally put pressure on these guys, they are all extremely tallented

[hasty kayak]

The fact we have anything at all is a blessing

Especially with the N64 with how complex this thing is and the Saturn core when its Developer is in the Ukraine. Some people forget that.

[velvet nexus]

Glad I chose this thing over the PS5

[quaint rune]

You made the right choice

[silent marten]

I will never forget this... I am always happy to see a new release of the Saturn core as it tells me that srg320 is doing well

[velvet nexus]

no doubt

[hasty kayak]

Its why I am relatively quiet these days. I am just happy for a release.

[velvet nexus]

espescially since I was an early adopter, prices hiked a lot

[silent marten]

I like the chance at a conversation

[hasty kayak]

During the PSX Core days, I was fairly active (mainly to test and debunk bug reports using real hardware ;))

[velvet nexus]

I totally forgot about that 😦

[silent marten]

😦

When that developer is not in this discord to keep us updated a new core release is really all we have ya know

[velvet nexus]

How priveledged am I that I could forget about a whole war

[zenith orchid]

for most of history few people in other countries were even aware if wars going on in different parts of the world,

[velvet nexus]

I suppose, still makes me feel icky that I didn't consider one of our own is in a warzone

[zenith orchid]

yep, its good to be reminded. personally I couldn't imagine forgetting

[velvet nexus]

Thanks LS.

[zenith orchid]

anyway, he makes pretty incredible progress, he just doesn't go into detail about it

I would say he is quite productive, considering he also churned out a 32x core during the development of the Saturn

[velvet nexus]

Just like sega

[silver galleon]

If you get rid of the thin straight line at the top that could be art!!! 🤣

[zenith orchid]

Man, I'm so excited that Robert is focused on sm64 and mk64. I bet by the time those games are rendering properly, most likely sf64 will as well by the way its looking right now

[silent marten]

I got into the first level on Mario 64 and placed first in MK64's first race 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Bom Omb battlefield is a trip

[silent marten]

Yes it is 🙂

[zenith orchid]

it's basically black square battlefield right?

[silent marten]

And MK64 is Black Box Kart Racing 64 right now 😛

But all joking aside the fact we have anything at all right now is crazy

[velvet nexus]

glad that's spelled with a K, would be an unfortunate acronym otherwise.

[silent marten]

F??

[cerulean elk]

Lol not quite

@velvet nexus has a dirty mind

[silent marten]

Lol

[zenith orchid]

I think Robert discovered a while back that the N64 would have to be flexible and forgiving with its own hardware to really work. So I had a feeling that a little bit of DSP would go such a long way

[silent marten]

What is EC00 error code?

[cerulean elk]

Ok well back to my original plan of lying on the couch all day in a giant heatable sinus mask 🤣

[zenith orchid]

oof, feel better soon man

[cerulean elk]

Someone @ me if something cool happens and I have to drag my ass back into my studio

[zenith orchid]

lol

sure thing

[silent marten]

Will do bro

[zenith orchid]

I have a feeling that the first texture mode he implements should make the games dramatically more playable. though the next build will probably include exactly the texture modes that those two games use. Hell I will still enjoy playing mk64 without zbuffer or perspective correction 😂

[hearty python]

Think both cores have there own challenges. Saturn the massive chip count and N64 the clockspeed of the cpu.

But i guess that N64 core will run more games faster than Saturn core, cause there are much less chips involeved

[velvet nexus]

do you know if he's using some weird tricks to get around the issues, like is it a hybrid core?

[hearty python]

Not that i know.

[velvet nexus]

there are concerns it will be feature incomplete?

[hearty python]

we have to see and wait. To early real to say. TLB could be a thing, that need tricks.

[velvet nexus]

TLB?

[hearty python]

Its a kind of cpu cache, if i have understand it right.

[velvet nexus]

translation lookaside buffer

sounds right to me,

Shoulda googled before asking, sorry, guys

[hearty python]

The challange there is, that it needs mostly one cycle to do it all.

[languid dune]

Ha ha, I was actually able to get into the gameplay portion of Rampage World Tour. Mostly via audio since the visuals are almost non existant.

[velvet nexus]

What is the theoretic top speed of the Cyclone 5?

ao486 is at 90 mhz, correct?

[brisk drum]

That wasn’t my intention

[ocean lily]

ao486 can run up to 100MHz

[brisk drum]

Just wanted to start a fun convo

[hearty python]

100Mhz seems the limit for newer systems.

[velvet nexus]

thanks kitteh,

well, N64 is right at that cusp

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-care-idc-gif-10337378

[ocean lily]

top speed depends on how far the cells are apart to maintain timing closure

[velvet nexus]

I think we well established motive, AT,

[foggy stirrup]

If you keep pushing buttons in wetrix you can play the game

[ocean lily]

FPGAs built on smaller processes can run faster, and the cyclone v is 28nm

[velvet nexus]

neatest concept in gaming I've seen, for sure. This rabbit hole started with me looking at a flashcart for the SNES

28? I thought it was on a smaller process for some reason

[brisk drum]

I started when I bought a super nt and mega sg but wanted so much more ..

[final walrus]

Tetris 64 playable with minor slowdowns 😄
Make sure to select 4kb SRAM

[brisk drum]

Ran into many posts about MISTer .. and how it ruled!

[fallen sparrow]

Nice

Btw, a video showing some games
https://youtu.be/HAG9W00q2lo

[velvet nexus]

28 nm sure enough

[zenith orchid]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/fpga/nios-processor/ii.html
it would probably have to be something like this

there's a table that includes cyclone v

[velvet nexus]

such a rabbit hole

[zenith orchid]

haha yeah, the FPGA universe is very technical

[languid dune]

@cerulean elk Bomberman Hero actually boots up with some corrupted visuals for the intro! I was even able to get a bit of the game started with the space ship flying away from the screen visible for a moment.

[cerulean elk]

Nice. I actually didn’t test it lol

I ran out of steam and had enough content to cut from

[languid dune]

It's your favorite N64 game! How could you not test it!?

[cerulean elk]

The room was starting to spin 🤣

[languid dune]

Sorry, I'm just teasing. I know you're super busy.

And not feeling well.

[ocean lily]

I suspect the kria k26 could run 75%+ faster than the cyclone v

[cerulean elk]

I had garbage sinuses. So when they get clogged my inner ear starts telling me the room is spinning. I need to have surgery to get them widened but the surgery sounds terrifying so I haven’t done it 🤣

They literally drill your head out. Recovery is like 2+ weeks. My sister in law had it done and was in bed for like three weeks. No thanks!

[velvet nexus]

would it take much to convert current cores to that new architecture, hypothetically

[chilly ember]

Hexen shows the logo and plays audio.

[velvet nexus]

cost aside

[languid dune]

Able to get to the controller pack screen in Bust-a-Move 2.

[ocean lily]

no idea on that front; different architectures and tools, and no existing framework, plus memory interfaces would have to be redesigned, plus memory modules would have to be made

[velvet nexus]

sounds like it would take quite a bit, then

[fierce shuttle]

https://pastebin.com/HmtU6q0Z
hi, just updated my list I did earlier, hope this can be of some use.

[zenith orchid]

are you guys reloading the core before trying different games?

[fierce shuttle]

I tried the whole US Romset earlier.
I saw that PCN managed to get Mario 64 working.. I couldn't even get it to the main menu.

[orchid nimbus]

hehehe

a lot more demos now work

sweet

[cerulean elk]

Gotta mod it with the patch on pins

I got it running zero issues after patching

[orchid nimbus]

glorious texture mapping

lol j/k

[cerulean elk]

@fierce shuttle use this

https://hack64.net/tools/patcher.php

[fierce shuttle]

Thanks I'll give it a try.

[cerulean elk]

Add rom, add patch, hit patch…working version should be in your downloads folder

[orchid nimbus]

here you see the power of z-buffer

[fierce shuttle]

Thanks , I'll try it now..

[cerulean elk]

👍

[orchid nimbus]

weird mario kart 64 only shows the nintendo logo rotating and the fades to white

crash

[languid dune]

Try mashing through the Nintendo logo. That worked for me.

[fierce shuttle]

I've had to mash a few times to get past the loading screen.. one good example is Disney's Donald duck. You can actually get in game and it's totally playable... with missing graphics of course.

[languid dune]

Yeah, I was able to do the same with Rampage World Tour.

[cerulean elk]

Beat start like it owes you money

[orchid nimbus]

ha - almost got 1st place with Kart64

then got hit by a shell

recorded it - will post it soon

Looks like we might have our test game set 😄

[zenith orchid]

mk64 is still enjoyable even in its current state isn't it? 😂

[orchid nimbus]

at the end of the test cycle we're all Mario Kart 64 experts

yes it actually is

[silent marten]

I actually did get first in MK64 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRmEb_kik-E

for some reason my elgato60s+ doesn't like the sound

but the sound is perfect

[languid dune]

OMG, I'm able to get some music in the greatest quest on the console!!

[zenith orchid]

if any of you could test dr mario 64, I would be quite grateful

[cerulean elk]

I love that every WIP core needs the “beat start like Mike Tyson” directions to get in game. The one true MiSTer consistent

[zenith orchid]

oh no.. I thought it would still be playable like the tetris game 😦

hey thanks for looking into that

[orchid nimbus]

let me do a clean boot

[zenith orchid]

4player dr mario is so much fun

everyone should try it at least once in their lives

[orchid nimbus]

clean start same results

[languid dune]

Aw yeah, getting that "Rush!" voice when booting up San Francisco Rush makes this all worth it.

[orchid nimbus]

Rayman2 gets in game

and sounds like aliens are eating your brain

[fair stump]

Try the tom and Jerry game, works surprisingly well

[zinc dew]

Ah, just like I remember.

[languid dune]

Wow, Star Fox 64 showing a much better result than I expected.

I'm even checking my G-diffuser system!

I even saved Slippy!

[vapid hawk]

n64 is one of those consoles that has an off-48khz audio output iirc

plays havoc with some receivers too

actually though mister usually resamples eveything so... huh

[languid dune]

lol, I even got to the "Do a barrel roll!" section.

Aw, finally died. Got shockingly far considering you can barely see anything.

[cerulean elk]

Mario was still the most playable for me. Did some triple jumps. Stomped a goomba. Good times

[brisk drum]

But did you do a barrel roll?

Shit nvm

[languid dune]

You know it!

Got into brief gameplay in Star Soldier.

Can get to the title screen and music now in StarCraft 64.

[muted schooner]

Anyone try smash? just curious that is my fav game on the platform.

[silent marten]

actual title screen?

[languid dune]

Umm...I think so?

[silent marten]

I got 3 or 4 splash screens and a bit of music then after it tried to go further it hung

[languid dune]

Might have been a splash screen then.

[silent marten]

🙂

[languid dune]

Shows the game's title and music. But yeah, seems like a splash screen.

[silent marten]

yeah ok same place as me then

[daring meteor]

Isn't Smash a TLB game?

[silent marten]

Smash doesn't work

I tried it as well

[muted schooner]

noooooooooooooo how will I ever survive without deep fried smash bros polygons

[languid dune]

You can't survive. It's the end!

[silent marten]

And if Kasher is right then Smash should just work when TLB is implemented

[daring meteor]

I mean, if I'm right that's a bad thing (If you're looking to play Smash)

[silent marten]

You can have a look around the Internet to see if there is a patch for it like the no face patch for Mario 64

[languid dune]

Nice, getting that great comedy for the Iguana logo in Turok.

Damn, actually got into the very start of a game in Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey.

With some visuals too.

[storm void]

RIP Jay works pretty well

[languid dune]

Finally tested Mario 64 with the patch. I actually freed the chain chomp in Bob-Bomb Battlefield to get a star, but the game locked up as soon as the star appeared.

[lament escarp]

Extracting the pif file seems quite tricky. Been trying google but not getting an answer.

[blissful plaza]

https://github.com/hcs64/pif_rom_dumper

[lament escarp]

I don't mean that kind of extraction

[cerulean elk]

How in the fuck did you manage that? 🤣

I kept hitting a wall and never found the ramp

[languid dune]

With hard work and guts!

Actually, I also couldn't get up the ramp, so I took the elevators instead. Much easier to see.

[cerulean elk]

If the game didn’t freeze I want someone to beat Mario 64 as it currently looks

Speedrun. FPGAZumSpass %

[languid dune]

Madness!

It was also quite difficult to line up with the chain chomp's post, because of how the perspective is all weird. I had to run towards it until Mario stopped moving, then estimate the jump on top of it. 😅

[weary palm]

is it ok to post a PIF checksum here?

[languid dune]

You mean the actual PIF file?

[weary palm]

no just a hash

[cerulean elk]

Hash should be fine 🤷🏻‍♂️

[languid dune]

I'm not well versed enough to know what that means...👀

[cerulean elk]

It’s the checksum of a file. Basically the signature that you can check a file against to confirm it’s a 1:1 set of information

[fierce girder]

It’s really cool that this is showing such amazing progress, we’ll be able to play 3D games without using a TB for ISOs

[cerulean elk]

Checksums aren’t copywritten material really

Yeah I don’t make the rules round here

[weary palm]

NTSC PIF
Size: 1984 bytes (1 KiB) CRC32: 0AA20B09 CRC64: A17CE7B877360925 SHA256: fa7b09795ef1e54461e59f6f2d902368133e3f1cd980e34383e6a780d74beffd SHA1: b7a0070cbe4b9bcaa08ec0b76b8c4955b2ae535a

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew wanna weigh in?

[brisk drum]

Here come the reaper

[cerulean elk]

I hit the flag for misspelling quest too lol

[languid dune]

Saaame.

[zinc dew]

Checksums aren’t copyrighted materials.

[languid dune]

Robular cluster is always happy to help.

[cerulean elk]

That’s what I said. But I don’t make the rules lol

I didn’t want to be telling people it’s ok

[zinc dew]

I serve the community.

[compact depot]

If it’s not inside a gif you should be fine 🙃

[mellow terrace]

Anyone have luck with pif_rom_dumper on an ED64 Plus?

I cant seem to get it to save the sram file

[cerulean elk]

It’s funny how NOT easy it is to locate a PIF. Compared to a file set for any other console

[languid dune]

No kidding. I had a heck of a time finding it.

[weary palm]

yeah, I had to remove some padded zero bytes from the one I found the the hash to check out

[cerulean elk]

Which will be beyond most people I’d guess. My audience at least I know (and not talking down…who tf knows how to hex edit) would need help with a hex editor and I rarely show it on the channel because of that

[weary palm]

I know how to hex edit 😉

but who tf am I?

[cerulean elk]

Lol I mean like “outside of us weirdos”

I do it mostly for reverse engineering Konami arcade encryption

[languid dune]

The only time I've ever used a hex editor was when I fixed the horrible stuttering scrolling in the Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters on my Steam Deck.

Need a 120hz display using the dock for the fix to actually work though.

Which I thankfully have.

Nice, Did You Know Gaming just put up a new N64 facts video. Will have to check it out later.

[cerulean elk]

That reminds me I’ve got a pile of shit to give away for Deck. And mail your Hydlide. Been so fucking sick it’s all just sitting in a pile

[languid dune]

No worries. I know you'll get to it.

[cerulean elk]

Like literally Hydlide is ON the steam deck pile 😂

Tomorrow! I’ve gotta mail my father in laws birthday gift. Hydlide is going out!

[languid dune]

I can feel the punishment already!

[lament escarp]

My ntsc pif has a crc32 of 68dc7bf8. Is that correct?

[cerulean elk]

I haven’t done the video on the case mods because I really don’t want to disassemble that on camera. Messy

I so often regret saying yes to those kinds of videos the moment I need to actually shoot them

[worn delta]

There may be an NTSC pif in my WIP database...

Although I still never found a PAL one

[brisk drum]

Tell him it’s considered a hidden gem

[cerulean elk]

His garage is a hidden gem. Computers from the 70s on up. Some one of a kind items

[brisk drum]

That’s awesome

[cerulean elk]

He’s been an engineer since the 70s and kept basically every computer he’s ever had plus more

[mild ether]

Vivid Dolls work yet?

[cerulean elk]

Worked on Apollo (camera stuff)

[lament escarp]

They're crazy hidden. I hate it!

[worn delta]

If anyone has a PAL one would love one to slide into my DMs...

[cerulean elk]

you gonna get in TROUBLE lol

[worn delta]

People struggling to find an NTSC boot.rom might want to have a read here and will set you in the right direction

#1096872957030174750 message

These BIOS files are so elusive, the sooner we can have them set up boot0 for NTSC and boot1 for PAL and have the menu toggle the BIOS, and get them into a database the better

Assuming that is how Robert wants to implement it

[chrome quest]

After spending a long time myself, can at least give all the hash values:
NTSC: B7A0070CBE4B9BCAA08EC0B76B8C4955B2AE535A
PAL: 15C23C3B671A8828302603F30C81D464B24A7FB1
BRAZIL: A749C815E858A2487F4105022D23E7001EE6F0EC

The biggest issue sourcing is file size. If greater than 1,984 bytes, it could be correct but be sure to truncate in Hex first.

[daring meteor]

20230708-120122 totally doesn't mean anything

[chrome quest]

Those are the SHA1 Hash values. For people as easily confused by this as I was, an easy way to test in Windows:
PowerShell App (built into windows), then use command
Get-FileHash -a SHA1 C:\games\N64\boot.rom

[cerulean elk]

and for those of you that don't know what that means, you open it up in a hex editor (I recommend HxD) and remove the padding at the end of the file. Usually will be 00/.. in hex / decoded text

some files will be padded at the end which means they will be BIGGER than the proper file size expected...but that data is literally just 00

[blissful plaza]

Older PIF ROMs dumps available were in fact PIF ROM+RAM dumps, that's why it was bigger and you need to truncate/remove some values.
Since last March, newer ROMs dumps were done and with correct hash/size values.

[cerulean elk]

Which will probably be a metric pain in the ass for almost everyone lol

[worn delta]

But again, anyone who hasn't got a working NTSC BIOS, follow the link I posted above and you will be able to find it to download. I can't make it anymore straight forward without breaking rules

[zinc dew]

I appreciate you abiding by that.

[daring meteor]

If anyone hasen't gotten a working BIOS (Any), 20230708-120122 doesn't mean anything

[orchid nimbus]

Update_all is your friend

[cerulean elk]

True. True

[weary palm]

If you have 7zip installed it has a built-in file hasher.

[worn delta]

Thanks to some very helpful people who sent me some file... people still looking should definitely go have a look at the WIP databse on github, some interesting stuff there...

[cerulean elk]

Nudes of Margaret Thatcher I bet

[worn delta]

Those are there for when people get too excited about the N64 core starting to work already

[oblique remnant]

thanks for that. do you know if selecting the Ram Option before the game is enough or need the core to be resetet complety?

Chopper Attack runs with that ram option but with no graphics 😄

[orchid nimbus]

nothing sexier than a conservative woman

[final walrus]

my testing methodology didn't involve rebooting the core at all. loaded up the game, if it didn't work I changed the save type, hit reset, and then it sometimes did something else than before or not, repeat

[oblique remnant]

ok I wonder if the boot rate is higher when selecting the appropriate save type in general. according to robert SRAM or Flash type games won't really work yet

[languid dune]

Because I'm a masochist, I almost got up to King Bob-Bomb in Mario 64. Then the game crashed.

[daring meteor]

Lmao

[cerulean elk]

I’m impressed

[languid dune]

I booted the game up on my Switch to map out the shortest path, and just went with it in the MiSTer core. Came so close to him!

[versed cairn]

Not everyone’s fav but earthworm Jim 3D plays the whole intro and some of the demo play before freezing

[oblique remnant]

ok next is starfox 64 first boss beaten? 😄

[languid dune]

I actually got pretty close to it before dying. 👀

[final walrus]

I was up to beating Mario Kart 64 in chaos mode, but it froze after the race

[orchid nimbus]

do a barell rolle!!

[marble cargo]

Oh yeah, it would be interesting to try out those "chaos" mods on the core once things settle down.

[orchid nimbus]

@marble cargo you really think we can't figure out how to use 🌶 and make a +1 appear? 😄

[inner garden]

I am one of the few humans who knows what happens if you launch a blue shell in battle mode.

[quaint rune]

waiting

[pallid falcon]

Bangai-O has audio, mostly black screen but some colourful blocky shapes. I'm not good enough to play it without visuals. 😅

[old vortex]

I'll second that, Tom and Jerry was a real shock. Definitely one of the least broken I've tried so far.

[worn delta]

I can reverse but can't seem to drive forward

This is on "Town in MK64" in gigaleak

[broken viper]

omg!!! I can't believe we are already getting glitchy gameplay working on decently resource heavy games! (As in proper games that use most system resources and not just atari ports)

I thought it would take months to get to this point! Completely insane!

[worn delta]

So the actual US release for Mario Kart doesn't get into play, but the version in the gigaleak does 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

@worn delta see my youtube video

it works fine if you spam start at the nintendo logo enough

[worn delta]

Got that working now, yep and I can drive my black box forward!

Black screen on OOT still

and Majoras

Worth a shot though

[orchid nimbus]

I finished the race 2nd got hit last minute lol

[rapid prairie]

I can’t wait to mess around with this tonight. Like always a new core update from Robert is so amazing. This core is moving along so fast. Exciting times!

[quaint rune]

reminds me of psx development when games were starting to show. exciting times indeed!

[hearty python]

Robotron 64 runs the Intro, but not the game

[worn delta]

Have put a request in to get N64 named: "Nintendo 64" added to names.txt 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

Super Nintendo 64

[fallen sparrow]

I'm gonna test some stuff in a Live Stream. Pop by and say hello
https://www.youtube.com/live/td3uSUOx2ps?feature=share

I just converted the USA set from .n64 to .z64

So hopefully some fun

[mild ether]

Test Vivid Dolls 🙏

[fallen sparrow]

If I have it sure

I don't have it, but I'll see if I can grab it before stream

[mild ether]

Aleck 64 set.

[fallen sparrow]

I've got an old USA one that I was using with RetroArch

[mild ether]

At Galloping ghost today so no testing for me until at least tomorrow.

[fallen sparrow]

Check your DM bud

[velvet nexus]

do they have pinball there?

[fallen sparrow]

I just checked, a bit too adult for my channel lol

[velvet nexus]

no medieval madness 😦

[mild ether]

No nudity in the first round as I recall.

[velvet nexus]

justz00t I'm coming to IL on my Bday to play at that arcade!

[vague sun]

LIVE NOW checking out the new N64 & Saturn betas on #MiSTerFPGA! - https://twitch.tv/owlnonymous

[cerulean elk]

Right near me

[cerulean elk]

Lies. You took your junk out last stream I heard

For the subs

[mild ether]

Yep, I came down for their 13th anniversary.

[fallen sparrow]

Gotta grind the junk

[cerulean elk]

I haven’t been for some years. You in IL or?

[mild ether]

I live in Appleton WI but I come down to go to Galloping Ghost one or two times a year. Depending if I come down for Riot Fest or not.

[cerulean elk]

Nice. I don’t know any MiSTer people in Chicago or really even IL

[mild ether]

Anyone who lives within 500 miles that likes arcade should go to Galloping Ghost at least once.

[cerulean elk]

I went right before the pandemic but haven’t made it back out since

I tend to recreate a rare arcade in my studio closet lol

[mild ether]

I tend to come down here to see which cabinets I wish I had.

[uncut gyro]

I’m from Springfield originally, but have been living in San Francisco area since 1997 🙂

[worn delta]

See a few peeps have been adding to the test sheet which is great to see 🙂

[deft tree]

I know at least half a dozen others lol

[zinc dew]

Everyone is being very considerate of the rules but just a reminder to new people - No asking for roms or PMs for roms.

Some wonderful members of the community have provided hints to point you in the right direction.

No one is doing that, everyone is being wonderful. Just wanted to reiterate is all. Thank you very much.

[worn delta]

I need to shut MiSTer down for the night, but it is looking like some of the tech demos in the gigaleak pack are now booting, which were not on the previous build. If anyone is looking to do some testing that could be a good one to look at, there is a tab on the far right of the sheet 🙂

[cerulean elk]

And nobody has come over for a drink? Wow. I see how it is

[cerulean elk]

Pls dm me romz. K thx

[deft tree]

I tried to tell you when FGC night at ignite is lol. That’s when some of the Vsav guys get together

[cerulean elk]

You did. It’s true lol

Do they do arcade shit there at all? Maybe I can drag down a rare arcade fighter some time for shits and giggles @deft tree

[deft tree]

The Vsav gang plays a handful of other retro games and brings PVMs sometimes. I think they mostly just play on LCD there for convenience though

I know MightyMar and Typhas both have personal pvms at home

[cerulean elk]

I can always drag the whole setup out. PVM/supergun/boards and sticks

[deft tree]

If you coordinated it on a night where that gang was there people would definitely put it to use

Handful of that gang plays shmups and stuff too

[cerulean elk]

Do a Hyper Neo Geo night or a 3DO M2 nigjt

[languid dune]

Nice! I'm in Racine.

[round heart]

Hello, need some particular file like bios in addition to core to test it?

[zinc dew]

Correct. You’ll need a bios. Unfortunately that’s copyrighted material and we cannot share it but if you look through chat today there should be enough info for you to figure out where to find it.

[round heart]

Google help me 🙂 So next must rename it?Right?

[zinc dew]

Thank you for understanding. It’s appreciated. 🍻

[cerulean elk]

Yes. Rename to boot.rom

[languid dune]

👢 .rom

[cerulean elk]

I’ll have a setup tutorial tomorrow to help more people start playing but that’s the gist of it

Or is it root.bom? I can’t remember 😂

[languid dune]

It's king.bob-omb

But yes, it is indeed actually boot.rom

[worn delta]

For the two other people using my WIP database I am trying to keep it up to date with the latest test builds, and has the other files you need to get up and running

Hopefully not too long now until Robert adds the core into unstable nightlies

🙂

[zinc dew]

@worn delta your database is awesome. Thanks for keeping it up to date! 🍻

[worn delta]

No worries 🙂

[cerulean elk]

An even better joke

[zinc dew]

I used names.txt to rename the core to "Nintendo N64"

Or should it be "Nintendo 64"

[elfin relic]

Super Nintendo Ultra N64 Sixty-Four

[weary palm]

Dendy 64

[worn delta]

Is there a collection anywhere of the various N64 test roms that are out there?

Or does anyone have links to ones out there?

[languid dune]

The only two I have are the oxygen demo and the christmas demo.

[storm parrot]

Ah they have to be Z64?

I compiled my own build

finding a PIF was damn near impossible

[fallen sparrow]

Sweet

Thanks, everyone that stopped by the Stream. Who ever thought streaming black screens and weird graphics would be so much fun 😀

[cerulean elk]

Thanks for putting up with me mostly making jokes 😂

[fallen sparrow]

It was fun lol, you made the stream great.

[mild ether]

Have you been down to Galloping Ghost?

[velvet nexus]

I'm going for my birthday

[devout leaf]

Galloping Ghost is great

Love Chicagoland

[thick terrace]

are there any homebrew / demos that work? I downloaded a bunch of n64 stuff from somewhere, but I can't get any of it to load

[devout leaf]

Make sure to play Primal Rage 2

[velvet nexus]

I mean... Okay...

mainly I want to play pinball 😐

[mild ether]

Going to have a blast.

[velvet nexus]

was that toward me?

wish they had medieval madness 😐 its a hard table to find in the wild

[mild ether]

Yes.

Aleck 64 game here.

[chilly ember]

Managed to get the first star and beat king whomp in super mario 64

Crappy phone video lol

[cerulean elk]

I am impressed with people’s dedication to this

We need a speedrun! King Whomp Current Build %

[chilly ember]

Hahaha I'm curious how far I can go. Got whomp's fortress second star. Cool cool mountain next

Awww. Crash as soon as I came out of the room hahah oh well

[orchid nimbus]

Insane 😄

[devout leaf]

Still worth to play since it’s the only copy in existence. Just a fun thing to experience. Enjoy the pinball though

[weary palm]

I have only played that one on Pinball FX 3. Great table indeed.

[velvet nexus]

Which table is the only in existence?

[zinc dew]

Galloping Ghost overrated, I prefer Trotting Spirits

[stoic parcel]

Avenging Spirit for me

[cerulean elk]

That just sounds like a ghost with the shits

[cerulean elk]

Damn. I really wanted to watch someone actually beat it on the current core

[chilly ember]

I would if I could, I suffered through at least 10 crashes before I got that far, tried a few more times to get farther but it crashes before that. I guess i got a lucky run

[devout leaf]

Oh sorry not pinball, I was just saying why I recommended just playing a game of Primal Rage 2. My bad.

[zinc dew]

Oh damn, the core is further along than I thought!

[stoic parcel]

Robby can you boot up Bangaioh in your core? Mine wont :(

[zinc dew]

Sorry I only play good games

[cerulean elk]

Big shit talked tonight I see

[latent dagger]

lol

[zinc dew]

oh look it’s Mr bubble bobble symphony, don’t you have a Neo Geo 64 to make love to

[latent dagger]

I'm on the fence about whether or not to bother with getting the NSO N64 controller

As kind of nostalgic/retro as it would feel, it would also be a pita compared to just using a proper newer controller with better sticks

[stoic parcel]

Oh my

[latent dagger]

I could get a Brawler64 controller if I wanted a sort of half way middle ground on button layout with a better stick

[chilly ember]

I'd like to buy one but they're never in stock

[cerulean elk]

Too sharp and the ports are too small

[zinc dew]

lmao

I only talk shit about stuff I like

Also that was 40 winks on the ps1 core

Bangalore doesn’t load

Bangalore

[velvet nexus]

Bubble symphony is one of my all time faves

[zinc dew]

Bubble bobble rocks

[velvet nexus]

Adore that game

Taito f3 right?

[zinc dew]

I dunno, I just played it on the Saturn

[velvet nexus]

Taito f3.

[latent dagger]

Bubble Bobble is cool and all, but Puzzle Bobble is better (aka Bust-A-Move)

[velvet nexus]

Just googled to make sure

That's like saying puzzle fighter is better than street fighter

[latent dagger]

yo, Super Street Puzzle Fighter II Turbo is banger

[velvet nexus]

It is

But apples...

[zinc dew]

Both are great imo

Bust a Move ‘99 is on the N64

[cerulean elk]

Symphony and Memories are both F3 yeah

[deft tree]

My taito half cab has a bunch of these goodies

Look at how cute