The morning sun has vanquished the horrible night.
#Nintendo 64
languid dune
lament escarp
I just tried to be funny like @orchid nimbus, its frozen, as in ice, when you get there again... haha...
quaint rune
Oh right. That flew past my head 😂
orchid nimbus
sent me a message on that number - you'll get one back from me
woeful grove
oh, I was just gonna use it as a placeholder whenever im signing up for an account from a site I suspect will spam me
languid dune
We got @orchid nimbus here doxxing himself!
woeful grove
too late, I wrote it down
orchid nimbus
good 🙂 only text messages and voice mail accepted
languid dune
The internet never forgets.
woeful grove
indeed
hearty python
Savestate is double the size of the ram?
languid dune
Anyway, as I was going to say earlier, it was great to wake up to more updates again this morning. Robert is a machine.
hearty python
What is new?
orchid nimbus
we got q-64 working with a save state
hearty python
And? Are you happy?
zinc dew
THE FORBIDDEN GAME
orchid nimbus
überglücklich
wanton sun
Savestate is double the size of the ram?
there exists sizes between 2^n?
just joking, could be 9 mybte or so, i was just lazy when i implemented in my emulator
hearty python
Does this save work with the core last here posted?
wanton sun
it doesn't matter
it just loads the ram and the VI shows the last framebuffer. The games crashes instantly. But well, i guess that is about the same time as most of you would spend with that game anyway 😛
compact depot
@zinc dew disagrees
vapid hawk
its like the worlds most elaborate screenshot ever i love it
wanton sun
yes, we really should not post a screenshot here, so everyone can have their joy trying it
hearty python
Ok, so we get no pause from posts of this game
twin barn
yeah it was fun
wanton sun
haha, sorry birdy 🙂
twin barn
haha no you are right
quick arch
the size of the save state is huge
vagrant ivy
the size of the save state is huge
Its got to be big to contain the awesomeness of Quest 6 4
twin barn
currently no test roms even load right?
twin barn
oh nvm, i realized i didn't ahve the bios in there, doing that now lol
i have multiple misters and didn't set this one up right
are you using peterlemon's tests again?
zinc dew
<@314946127487172609> disagrees
lol I would genuinely try to play it
hasty kayak
Wow this looks awesome! I can't wait to try the core later down the line 🙂
And yes, I have real hardware, all be it a PAL N64
hasty kayak
I have a Commodore 64, that any good to you?
vagrant ivy
I have a Commodore 64, that any good to you?
Then you are one of the Chosen
Квест 64
You will summon Kitrinx soon
She did write the Game after all
stoic parcel
raw oriole
That's a much longer play than I ever manage in Bangai-O
stoic parcel
Looks fun.
raw oriole
It's a great game, I'm just kinda bad at it
orchid nimbus
I wonder if there are any N64 covers like this one - one that makes you think the game is absolute balls
But it turns out to be great
Meanwhile in another dimension
raw oriole
What the heck is that NA cover doing? There's no hillbilly banjo in Phalanx
"Demographic targeting" I suppose
orchid nimbus
Meanwhile in an board room in the US: the ship looks like a dick - we can’t print dicks on the cover. I know a way around that - I know a guy named Richard let’s use him. Good idea have a promotion!!
raw oriole
TBF that one's fairly accurate so they can blame the sprite artist
woeful grove
Meanwhile in another dimension
woah, that ship design is suggestive
oblique remnant
I wonder if there are any N64 covers like this one - one that makes you think th...
woeful grove
Holy Magic Century?
woeful grove
it's nonsensicle but better than Quest 64
oblique remnant
Wait Konami put their name on that game?
seems so. wonder what they have been drinking 😄
ocean lily
hollow rune
Is there documentation on how to deploy the files @wanton sun posts?
woeful grove
dragon warrior is cool art
twin barn
sound in one of the bad apple demos works
ocean lily
It is, but also borderline atari levels of bs
twin barn
orchid nimbus
Wake up Green Dragon - have some beer
twin barn
yeah all the dragon warrior 1-4 art is pretty decent considering how weird some nes artwork was, way better than most games
oblique remnant
I have never found her 😦
lament escarp
That name tho...
woeful grove
yikes, I didn't see that, I just copied it off google images, sorry
twin barn
n64 has some really goofy covers
like what are the male/female symbols doing in here? lol
woeful grove
I gotta cut them a break there, i'd do anything to make a game about baseball seem even the tiniest bit interesting too
twin barn
lol
woeful grove
imagine the artist "here we have this game about baseball and we want you to make something that gets it to sell"
twin barn
this is so bad it'slike modern ironic comedy material
woeful grove
same deal as above but worse
twin barn
it certainly pops
woeful grove
ogre woman beating a princess warrior with a fish?
twin barn
that's chess for ya
woeful grove
that's how I play
woeful grove
slaps around birdbro with a large trout.
twin barn
the blockbuster exclusive just makes it all that much better
woeful grove
n64 hidden gems
oblique remnant
can't wait to play this hidden gem though
uff really, a gem that needs to be hidden 🙂
languid dune
The Bust a Move (Puzzle Bobble) games had such weird box art in North America.
I think one of them had a baby on the cover.
oblique remnant
And why name it bust a move...
languid dune
Ah, it was the PS1 and PS2 versions that had the super bizarre box art.
Like what the heck was this!?
Looks like something for a horror game.
topaz otter
can't wait to play this hidden gem though
there's a gif for this, I can't post it so I'll just describe it to you
its a skateboarding video taken with a vhs camera with a fisheye lense
two bros are grinding rails and high fiving while butt rock plays
they have 'tude and the whole thing is totally radical.gif
zinc dew
I’m gonna be honest, this is way funnier then posting a gif lmao
my reaction to this, imagine Stevan Seagal but he’s older and pretty paunchy. Has some weird black clothing on and he’s just eating a giant carrot. Looks a little bored but is interested.gif
topaz otter
steven segal sits on a park bench in a traditional japanese garden, he hooks fingers with an attractive japanese woman in a kimono. Slowly, she fades away and then he holds up his finger reminiscently.
zinc dew
LOLOL
hearty python
Think Steven has lost of sympathy from his fans last time.
topaz otter
well I mean he tells lies and makes bad movies to pay off his gambling debts
compact depot
Too many jpegs! I quit discord
You gotta see JTDiscord then 
cold pollen
I’m gonna be honest, this is way funnier then posting a gif lmao
Facebook messenger culled all their GIFs a while back, I guess to remove copyrighted content or something, but they're laughably bad and impossible to find even common GIFs now, so I just type placeholders lol
cold pollen
I’m gonna be honest, this is way funnier then posting a gif lmao
Also we've reached Darmok and Jalad levels at this point
orchid nimbus
at tanagra
raw oriole
steven segal sits on a park bench in a traditional japanese garden, he hooks fin...
zomg this is the best result, thank you for these 😄
woeful grove
so british
raw oriole
We do it every Tuesday at tiffin
orchid nimbus
imagine a big man wielding a hammer with 'BAN' written all over it - in a neon backdrop. He walks towards @mellow raft and slams on his head - banning him from existince
raw oriole
Yeah, you've got to describe your gifs/yt's in prose now @mellow raft get with the program
mellow raft
Don't worry I just need to go on a quest a certain number of days in a row. I think 64 days was it?
orchid nimbus
I already claimed the game entry in the test list
Robby is also in the main starring role on https://vampier.net/N64/
neon heron
Also we've reached Darmok and Jalad levels at this point
“May 11th, Robert and the PlayStation!”
lament escarp
Robby is also in the main starring role on https://vampier.net/N64/
This is actually good website.
lament escarp
Would it be possible to make the core in a way that it only plays brian64 and only on 100% completion does it unlock the ability to play all the other n64 games?
zinc dew
”prove your worth by completing this quest”
lament escarp
I would love to see the vge video on that scenario 
silent marten
Ohhh damn first save state loading!!!!!
Maybe games loading by the time I get home on Tuesday 🙂
silent marten
I know I saw that response but still it is progress 🙂
orchid nimbus
Also my ‘screenshot’ was fake
lone geyser
Ohhh damn first save state loading!!!!!
"Does MiSTer support savestates?"
"Sometimes. It depends on the core"
"Oh like only the simple cores have it?"
"No. The opposite"
hearty python
Save states are more a help for the developer to fix or solve errors while the core is beeing in development
lone geyser
I'm aware
cold pollen
I think mainly stuff Robert makes lol
quaint rune
by next week I wouldn’t be surprised if there was 3D games running
topaz otter
https://tenor.com/view/dundundun-suspense-scary-shocker-gif-6070360
literally me when I hear that robert is making a new core
hearty python
Will be hard for Robert to find a new challenge if the core is done
quaint rune
There’s always marvel vs capcom 2 😂
🦭 I kid. I dunno what else major could be done. After He should go to the Bahamas and smoke Cubans and drink martinis
cold pollen
still some consoles left, they're just the stepchild ones nobody likes
CDi and 3DO specifically nobody's claimed that I know of
JT claims he's gonna work on Jaguar
topaz otter
🦭 I kid. I dunno what else major could be done. After He should go to the Baham...
retire to a giant spooky mansion and become the subject of a stephen king short story
the mansion of robert peip
hearty python
Cdi and 3DO sounds not as a challenge if you done psx and n64 cores 😂
broken creek
3DO would be cool. It has a certain look to it that the games ported from it don’t have. I’m told this is from the 3DO having a z buffer.
modern sleet
3do sounds good if you've never played 3do before, but all of this is a bit off topic
brisk drum
CP3DO
topaz otter
aside from the alien vs predator game, the 3DO should be called the 3DOn't
brisk drum
You guys are gonna make trip Hawkins cry
zinc dew
aside from the alien vs predator game, the 3DO should be called the 3DOn't
I’ll admit, while corny I laughed at this joke. 🤣
I like 3DO btw. Never had one as a kid but I always thought it was neat.
neon heron
Yeah, scraping the bottom of the console barrel now. There is always the pippen
worn delta
There are still interesting consoles we don't have, but they aren't the big glamorous ones the random man on the street would have played. I covered them all here:
https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=4902
brisk drum
The Scotty Pippen
cerulean elk
aside from the alien vs predator game, the 3DO should be called the 3DOn't
Lol if your gonna make fun of a console at least get the details right. AvP is Jaguar 🤣
neon heron
Puu-san working on the fm towns, but i think he is basing it on the ao486 core, so if someone wanted to implement a 386 could build a Marty
topaz otter
Lol if your gonna make fun of a console at least get the details right. AvP is J...
damn your right, I apologize to trip hawkins
didnt the 3DO have road rash
worn delta
Yep
cold pollen
3do sounds good if you've never played 3do before, but all of this is a bit off ...
going through the 3DO library is something
languid dune
didnt the 3DO have road rash
It also had the best home port of Super Street Fighter II Turbo for many years.
I even bought Capcom's official 6 button 3DO controller just for that game.
modern sleet
Lets take the 3DO love to general
languid dune
Or the actual 3DO thread. 😘
compact depot
CDi and 3DO specifically nobody's claimed that I know of
JT claims he's gonna w...
JT claims should be taken as a fart in the wind so it doesn’t prevent any developer to perform real work on any cores
cold pollen
JT claims should be taken as a fart in the wind so it doesn’t prevent any develo...
of course lol
We do have a partial core already
zinc dew
Hey y’all Rob here.
I’m having a hard time thinking of a console that’s better than the Nintendo Sixty Four. I don’t think it exists.
cold pollen
I member first time I played Mario 64
jumping down those stairs and bonking his head on the corner of the ceiling was the best comedy
compact depot
I member first time I played Mario 64
I hated it
cold pollen
you're just a dose of negativity today aren't you lol
hearty python
Think the most interesting thing as a view from a core developer seems for me the duo gpu. You found only small information of it. Seems that the 3DO gpu is on the paper 2-3 faster as the psx gpu.
languid dune
I member first time I played Mario 64
First time I played it was at a Toys R Us demo kiosk before the console launched. Good times.
compact depot
you're just a dose of negativity today aren't you lol
That doesn’t mean I’m not super hyped for the N64 core though 😌
cold pollen
Yeah I played at Wal Mart kiosk or something
zinc dew
That doesn’t mean I’m not super hyped for the N64 core though 😌
what other classic games do you hate on the N64
cold pollen
what other classic games do you hate on the N64
might be easier to list ones they don't
languid dune
Then I got the call from my local Software Etc., where I preordered my N64, on September 26th 1996. And was told that they got the green light to sell it early so I could pick up my N64 that day. Such an amazing moment.
compact depot
what other classic games do you hate on the N64
I can’t answer that for some reason? 🤔
zinc dew
I need a ying to my yang
compact depot
You liar 😂
zinc dew
HAW HAW
hearty python
Don’t work for me 😂
compact depot
I really wanna play OoT again on the MiSTer core
zinc dew
Yeah that should be awesome!
compact depot
Majoras Mask is ass btw
brisk drum
QUAST 62
zinc dew
I am biased, I am big-time N64 fan.
zinc dew
Majoras Mask is ass btw
Awwwww it’s not so bad
brisk drum
Yeah same here
One of these days im just gonna power through it with a guide on my gc
zinc dew
lmao the was used perfectly
languid dune
Majoras Mask is ass btw
Why you gotta be dat way?
weary palm
The N64 sold 33 million units, GCN only 22. N64 must be better.
zinc dew
it’ll be real funny if you hate it even more and yell at us for making you play it again lmao
elfin relic
I remember not being a big MM fan when it came out, but then replaying it later I really enjoyed it
zinc dew
The N64 sold 33 million units, GCN only 22. N64 must be better.
N64 > GameCube
compact depot
LttP is the best Zelda ever
languid dune
But GCN has F-Zero GX and Metroid Prime!
zinc dew
But GCN has F-Zero GX and Metroid Prime!
Arrrrghfhfhfjgjfjfj I love those games so much, why must you make me choose!
god they’re so good
quaint rune
☝️😮 I wanna try Mario kart 64
hearty python
The N64 sold 33 million units, GCN only 22. N64 must be better.
No, the competition was harder. I guess GC got more better games.
languid dune
Arrrrghfhfhfjgjfjfj I love those games so much, why must you make me choose!
Your suffering brings me strength!
Naturally I love both N64 and GCN.
zinc dew
yeah they’re so good
weary palm
A shame we didn't get a Metroid game, true
languid dune
At least it didn't take long for Metroid to hit the GCN, so the wait wasn't too bad.
hearty python
The jump from n64 to GC was huge.
zinc dew
The jump from n64 to GC was huge.
I liked that they launched with another Wave Race so it really drove that point home for me.
languid dune
Blue Storm was really good. Most people say that the N64 game is better, but I'm not so sure that's true honestly.
zinc dew
I should play Blue Storm again. I thought it was a better game but I got more nostalgia for Wave Race 64.
languid dune
I played it again recently after playing Wave Race 64, and it definitely takes some getting used to. But once you do, it's super good.
weary palm
The jump from SNES to N64 was also huge. We will never see leaps like that again.
mellow raft
A shame we didn't get a Metroid game, true
I've been waiting and disappointed every Nintendo Direct for what now... 6 years since they announced Metroid Prime 4? Like wtf... "We're sorry. We need a bit more time as we're having to start over with Retro Studios under the helm".... that was 4 years ago.
I'm just like... how does it take 4 years
I wouldn't have so much of a beef with them but we haven't heard ONE word since 4 years ago
No acknowledgement, no "sorry for the wait". While Tears of the Kingdom got regular updates multiple times a year
It's clear Nintendo just doesn't have near as much love for Metroid anymore
Sorry.. I'm just pretty pissed that they've basically given us the silent treatment on it
zinc dew
I don’t know any info but I have a good friend who’s at Retro. They’re working hard on something!
languid dune
I was upset for awhile as well. But then we got the surprise reveal and release of Dread, and then Prime Remastered (which looks more like a remake). So I'm more forgiving now for Prime 4's delay.
zinc dew
People here might appreciate this, here’s my signed copy from the dev team
Ton more signatures in the back, amazing remake
cold pollen
Wow that's awesome
teal citrus
# N64 > GameCube
I disagree. I love both.
zinc dew
I disagree. I love both.
yeah same, I was just trolling haha
orchid nimbus
<insert GIF with Boxxy saying 'you's trolling' >
weary palm
ocean lily
I've been waiting and disappointed every Nintendo Direct for what now... 6 years...
laughs in Star Citizen
lone geyser
Hey y’all Rob here.
I’m having a hard time thinking of a console that’s better ...
What about the wonderful PlayStation X?
Why can the MiSTer run the PlayStation 10 but not the PlayStation 5, hmm?
ocean lily
PSX was a PS2 tho
mild ether
Still kinda hazy about the timeframe when PS1 became known as PSX.
sullen harbor
Still kinda hazy about the timeframe when PS1 became known as PSX.
When the PSX was released in Japan which was a combo PS1 and DVR
mild ether
When the PSX was released in Japan which was a combo PS1 and DVR
I thought that was a PS2
Pretty sure it was PS2.
sullen harbor
Huh
void hemlock
PSX was known as PSX before PS2. it was only started being coined as PS1 when the white console version came out
sullen harbor
your right
where I was it was just Playstation
when I was a kid
Then the PSone came out
PSX became a thing with my friend group well after the PS2 for me
which largely started with that DVR thing
I think because people just thought it was a ps1
void hemlock
huh, yeah PSX was a thing for me on the internet way before PS2 came out. was modding playstations as well and it was always called PSX on internet forums
mild ether
I just don't remember people referring to PS1 as PSX until 2010ish I think but I live under a rock.
sullen harbor
For me it was around 2003
void hemlock
of course to be taken with a grain of salt when talking with ChatGPT, but figured I'd see what it would say
for me that isn't quite right either. when it was officially released, it was still PSX for me. up until the white psone version
mild ether
It might be right I just never heard people say it but wasn't much into Internet forums about it back then. Xbox was more my thing.
sullen harbor
from actual research it seems the term PSX was birthed from its time as a Nintendo coproduction
void hemlock
ah that makes sense. the Nintendo/Sony Playstation
sullen harbor
A mixture of internal code name and trades referring to it as the "playstation experimental"
void hemlock
if only Nintendo weren't scumbags and trying to make a backroom deal with Panasonic at the same time
sullen harbor
Nintendo never really knows what its doing, it seems
when they strike gold its almost miraculous
because NES came out just as the great video game crash ended and was poised to take a cleared market
SNES was right time right place
N64 was great but expensive and the PS1 had a bigger install base
Gamecube was great but came out after PS2
Wii struck gold
ocean lily
I mean, Sony wanted 100% of the royalties and Nintendo effectively told them to fuck off
sullen harbor
Wii U was wrong time wrong place
Switch was gold
cold pollen
Don't count out the Wii. It was cheap and branded to parents as a way to get their kids to exercise
void hemlock
in another era Switch wouldn't have done well at all. the gamegear flopped due to its 3 hour battery life in comparison to the regular gameboy with its 8 hour battery life, and yet here we are with the switch
mild ether
It really does seem miraculous sometimes. The Gameboy was literally the worst handled technically on the market and it dominated. NES definitely wasn't technically superior to what Sega had to offer.
sullen harbor
Switch was going great but Covid really what pushed it over the edge
cold pollen
right
void hemlock
I rocked this as a kid, but I never used the joystick, it was so bad. but the rechargable battery kit that also plugs into the wall, the magnifying glass, and backlight were amazing. also the speakers weren't bad
ocean lily
waiting for playstation project q
cold pollen
I've mentioned it before, but I wanted a Gameboy right up until the day I played one lol
sullen harbor
Q from the leaks is just an android device with PS5 streaming capabilities
ocean lily
yeah, but with proper ps5 controls and force feedback
sullen harbor
I've mentioned it before, but I wanted a Gameboy right up until the day I played...
I started with the pocket so I never had to deal with ole bricky
cold pollen
Q from the leaks is just an android device with PS5 streaming capabilities
if by leaks you mean stuff Sony said lol
void hemlock
the first console maker to partner with Steam will do amazing I think. have access to your entire steam library on your console, and vice versa
sullen harbor
if by leaks you mean stuff Sony said lol
No I've seen actual video
cold pollen
No I've seen actual video
I mean Sony said this in their reveal
elfin relic
I sometimes stream my ps5 to my android phone, I don't think proper haptics would make it any better
sullen harbor
ah I didn't watch that. All I saw was some stuff before hand
ocean lily
yeah, the original Gameboy screen was terrible
elfin relic
it's not a great experience even on the same network
ocean lily
GBC had much reduced ghosting
void hemlock
yeah, the original Gameboy screen was *terrible*
in a car it would suck so bad when we'd go in a tunnel, or get stuck under a bridge
elfin relic
I've still got my OG DMG gameboy
cold pollen
I started with the pocket so I never had to deal with ole bricky
did that have a light?
elfin relic
we didn't get a built in light (outside of Japan) until the GBA SP
ocean lily
Japan had a Gameboy pocket with a built in frontlight, but it was never released elsewhere
cold pollen
yeah
sullen harbor
I've still got my OG DMG gameboy
I've got my pocked, color, advance, and sp
mild ether
I ended up owning a Game Boy eventually but I was surprised it dominated so much over Game Gear and Lynx. Those were really nice in comparison.
sullen harbor
did that have a light?
NOPE
cold pollen
the GBA came out with no backlight, and again, I wanted one until I played it
ocean lily
Lynx was garbage
cold pollen
Now that we can get those models with backlit screens I don't care about handheld lol
I own a DMG, GBC, and GBA though
with backlit screens
they're mainly for sitting on a shelf at this point
"yep, you would have been nice 25 years ago" lol
ocean lily
Lynx has like, 12 pixels
cold pollen
So I asked for a Game Gear and hated it
I only had a few games but they just didnt' seem great compared to their 16 bit counterparts
mild ether
Lynx was pretty sharp when it came out. Color handheld gaming was pretty next level at the time when everything else was those crappy Tiger games.
sullen harbor
I ended up owning a Game Boy eventually but I was surprised it dominated so much...
I think it was a price thing
cold pollen
Lynx was impressive because you could use it as a flotation device and partial habitat if you ever got lost at sea or a deserted island
IT WAS HUGE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING
mild ether
Yeah that was pricey. NES was only 80 I think at the time.
sullen harbor
yep
when nintendo wins it wins via price to performance
which then attracts more developers to its larger install base
elfin relic
gameboy had best tetris you could play for hours without needing to swap batteries
sullen harbor
killer app
mild ether
It's literally the only game I remember playing on it.
cold pollen
it was literally the killer app back then
kind of angers me that everybody knows the gameboy song though, cause I only had NES tetris lol
so Dance of the Sugar Plum fairy was "the Tetris song" for me
elfin relic
the gameboy song slaps
sullen harbor
I played pokemon Red, 007 (a zelda clone) and super mario land 2
elfin relic
sugar plum is meh
mild ether
Which NES Tetris though?
cold pollen
sugar plum is _meh_
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY
elfin relic
you know what I said
cold pollen
topaz otter
First time I played it was at a Toys R Us demo kiosk before the console launched...
The N64 was dawning of my realization that gigahertz and the number of bits of a console was a bunch of marketing crap
that what really mattered was the software and the company making that software
because the N64 had real textured 3d graphics that looked like a looney toons cartoon but it was in real life and you could actually play it
while the other guys whose names are redacted had supposedly superior machines and their 2D graphics looked great and their 3D looked like shit
having said that though, I was most impressed with the sega saturn. Having lived through the blast processing era the saturn felt like a real machine to me. And that game Nights into Dreams was really neat to me.
long ore
... but this one goes up to 64...
orchid nimbus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt3oAyK_IG8
@cold pollen nevermind - literally the first reply on his twitter from August 4th was from you 😄
cerulean elk
I thought that was a PS2
It’s a PS2. I’ve got one in my office
cold pollen
yessir lol
devout leaf
if only Nintendo weren't scumbags and trying to make a backroom deal with Panaso...
Gotta love that Sega also passed on Sony before destroying themselves.
hearty python
Iirc Sega passed also a deal with Microsoft
brisk drum
hearty python
having said that though, I was most impressed with the sega saturn. Having lived...
Games sells Hardware. But I remember that many Japan buyers get rid of the n64 very soon, cause there was a time without new games and only a few released.
If you look at the sales from Wii U, you can say that the hard fanboys is about 5-8 Mio. That’s not enough to exist for a company that size. So you need third party support for your hardware.
oblique remnant
'98 was the peak year of the N64 imo after that there were nice games but nothing jawbreaking stuff anymore at least for me. I did miss out a lot of games tbh 🙂
hearty python
Iirc N64 starts in Japan with only 2 games.
hearty oar
because there always has to be a shougi and/or mahjong game
oblique remnant
The system seller 😀
devout leaf
That coloring book art style fits it very well.
Saw a N64 fight stick yesterday. Obviously need to grab it so i can practice lol.
weary palm
Sharper sprites than Mischief Makers?
stoic parcel
Mischief is pre rendered I think
thorn flax
and the crowd went mild
hollow rune
Very nice video
cerulean elk
MVG just dropped this banger!
I mean they totally lied out their asses with the arcade stuff being “Nintendo 64” if that’s what he’s on about
I still get comments saying it’s the same hardware when it is just not
brisk drum
Yeah he mentions all that plus some neat technical stuff
cerulean elk
Nintendo couldn’t go to Lockheed because Sega had a partnership so they thought SGI was the go to move. Should have called Evans and Sutherland instead. They had the good shit hardware wise
raw oriole
Ten times the price probably though 🙂 E&S was all mil contracts
topaz otter
here's the deal, anyone that thought they were going to get a 25,000 dollar computer for $250 in 1995 was delusional
raw oriole
An E&S collab would have been fun to see!
topaz otter
SGI and Nintendo both got introduced to my two favorite friends, reality and scalability
raw oriole
Ugh reality. Overrated.
zinc dew
N64 had Mario 64, that was enough for me!
brisk edge
The system seller 😀
Surprisingly? Unsurprisingly? That launch shogi game, despite having a celebrity player endorsing it as well, sold incredibly poorly. Like Mario and Pilotwings sold wayyyy better
oblique remnant
Ironically i dont know about its sales. What you want more than mario 64. Nothing else ever felt like it for those who experienced it at the time
cerulean elk
Ten times the price probably though 🙂 E&S was all mil contracts
I’m sure something could be cut down to fit a pricing structure. Plus economy of scale
Bummer E&S never saw any home implementation
hearty python
Ironically i dont know about its sales. What you want more than mario 64. Nothin...
I have never bought a console only for one single game 😂
mild ether
Video claims that N64 was the first time that a mips processor was used in a home console and that's definitely not true.
hearty python
No, PSX is also mips
mild ether
Yes.
mellow raft
I have never bought a console only for one single game 😂
I bought a Wii U for only Xenoblade X 😛
hearty python
I ask me the hole time why they print SGI on the cpu? Has SGI a deal with MIPS?
mild ether
Licensed
hearty python
Or was customization done by SGI?
mellow raft
Did you watch MVG's latest video?
hearty python
No
grizzled stratus
SGI owned MIPS during the 90s
mellow raft
topaz otter
the cpu is a cut down SGI indy right
i think the tv's of the time had a lot to do with their graphics expectations also
if you saw the tv I played this thing on in the 90s, it was not fit for vhs let alone high definition graphics
mild ether
SGI owned MIPS during the 90s
Is that true? I thought MIPS was always it's own company that licensed their technology to other companies.
topaz otter
The company was purchased by SGI in 1992, by that time its only major customer, and won several new designs in the game console space. In 1998, SGI announced they would be transitioning off MIPS and spun off the company.
mild ether
Interesting.
Well that worked out pretty good for MIPS since they're still in business.
mellow raft
The N64 aimed to be the first time MIPS RISC processing would enter the video entertainment industry. Unfortunately due to delays, Nintendo not only lost being the first but had to drop its launch price to match the PlayStation
I'm sad the GCW-Zero lost its main dev. The device became a paperweight at that point
ocean lily
I bought a Wii U for only Xenoblade X 😛
maybe one day we'll get a port ...and maybe it'll be finished
mellow raft
It was a cool little handheld. What set it apart from the Dingoo competitor was it had a MIPS processor instead, and it was VERY responsive with all its emulators
mellow raft
maybe one day we'll get a port ...and maybe it'll be finished
I do hope so
I just got the 20CD soundtrack box set in on Friday :3
I'm a big fan of the franchise
ocean lily
same here, tho I missed the soundtrack box set, so I'll have to find a scalper to get it from
got my xenogears, xenosaga 1/2/3 (and guides/artbooks), xenoblade 1(wii, 3ds, switch)/X/2/torna/3 (and special editions of all 4)
deft tree
https://youtu.be/M20LsSYUEAw
stoic parcel
Neat.
deft tree
I need to to put the JP rom on my everdrive
since the PAL one only plays nice on my PVM and im set up on my D-series rn
stoic parcel
Good candidate for AA removal patch
stoic parcel
I only play fighting games casually.
devout leaf
https://twitter.com/GriffyBones/status/1612673970318221312
Cowboy has way more mixups than I'd expect.
final walrus
That's a *much* longer play than I ever manage in Bangai-O
I think it's my favorite game on the system. I have yet to beat the final stage but yeah, it's tough
hearty python
Well that worked out pretty good for MIPS since they're still in business.
Seems today more like a accommodation adress. Last cpu revision is 10 years ago, if the wiki is right.
mild ether
Seems today more like a accommodation adress. Last cpu revision is 10 years ago,...
They are mostly used in embedded products these days so nothing like they once were. They got a special place for me because I learned the instruction set trying to make patches for PS2 games.
ocean lily
MIPS CPUs are still pretty common in consumer level wifi routers
languid dune
I think it's my favorite game on the system. I have yet to beat the final stage ...
I own the Dreamcast version and have beaten it there. Never played the N64 version, so I'm looking forward to checking it out once the core is ready!
final walrus
I own the Dreamcast version and have beaten it there. Never played the N64 versi...
It’s mostly the same level design I think, but the mechanics & scoring are different. You can charge your missile blast and level up your shot, so it’s a bit more complicated
languid dune
Interesting. The only difference I knew about was that the Dreamcast version has way more missiles/lazers that you can shoot out at once.
steady basalt
I played more the NDS version. Didn't know it existed for N64, thanks.
thorn flax
I bought a Wii U for only Xenoblade X 😛
and 40million people bought the ps5 despite still having no games.
lean spruce
and 40million people bought the ps5 despite still having no games.
It only needed one for me to pick it up; Demons Souls Remastered 😎
inner bronze
MIPS CPUs are still pretty common in consumer level wifi routers
MIPS still big in networking in geneeal
Also as a teaching platform in many universities
native mesa
Does MVG get his content from here?
silent marten
It only needed one for me to pick it up; Demons Souls Remastered 😎
I am waiting for Spiderman 2 and FF7 Rebirth
Had my PS5 since launch lol
hearty python
I only hear ever that the ps5 game sales are bad from the retailers.
worn delta
Are there any active N64 translation projects on the go?
mellow raft
and 40million people bought the ps5 despite still having no games.
I didn't.... I still haven't.... yeah I don't get that lol
Everyone rushing to buy one and I'm just like WAIT people.... you'll have like nothing to play but Ratchet and Clank lol
and that's not that long of a game (really good though)
hollow rune
Are there any active N64 translation projects on the go?
Wonder Project J2 got one, no?
devout leaf
I didn't.... I still haven't.... yeah I don't get that lol
Demon’s Souls made it easy for me.
languid dune
I played more the NDS version. Didn't know it existed for N64, thanks.
The DS version always felt more puzzle focused. Whereas the original feels more like a shooter with a few puzzle like stages.
brisk edge
There's a handful of games I can think of that still need patches, the remaining RPGs like Super Robot Wars and Zool are likely the most text heavy games left on the system. Someone was working on the only VN on the N64, Yakochu 2, a while ago but not sure if that project stalled. Custom Robo V2 would be nice since we have a patch for the first game.
steady basalt
The DS version always felt more puzzle focused. Whereas the original feels more ...
It was possible to share stages using audio, got several stages from internet this way.
hollow rune
It was possible to share stages using audio, got several stages from internet th...
Wait, what?
steady basalt
NDS version had a stage editor, create a stage and encode into a sound that could be "listened" using the NDS microfone. People posted their stages online on MP3 or WAV.
weak hill
guys, whats the best emulator for ultra 64 arcade games, like killer instinct for instance?
i have tried mame a long time ago, but i hate that for example, the sounds is very low in the intro video, and stuff like that, i dont know if there has been any new emulator for that arcade, thanks.
hearty python
Thought that game runs not on n64 based hardware. It’s a different system
weak hill
yes i know, im just wondering if anyone of you knows, sorry if its not exactly on a n64 system
topaz otter
NDS version had a stage editor, create a stage and encode into a sound that coul...
dude this is how we transferred computer programs with a cassette tape in the 1980s lol
brisk edge
i have tried mame a long time ago, but i hate that for example, the sounds is ve...
There might have been a separate volume control switch you missed. I'm not particularly aware of a specific emulator for them, I would think mame is still your best option these days.
The only way to play them officially is locked to the Xbox one I believe as well
weak hill
Thanks for your reply
worldly quartz
Wow didn't know Bangai-o was originally an N64 game. At least that explains why it's a 240p only game on the DC
With the VGA patch, it looks worse imo
cerulean elk
Wow didn't know Bangai-o was originally an N64 game. At least that explains why ...
It’s not a game you’d expect at all on the 64
oblique remnant
You didnt expect 2D on the N64 either but in retrospect those games deliver even today
fallen sparrow
Bangai-o is banging. I played it on the DS though. A very neat way of sharing levels
stoic parcel
The anti AA patches for Yoshi's Story appear to not work for any appropriate dumps, except the Japanese version
stoic parcel
Not really sure why Im bothering, since the core will be able to turn it all off anyway
devout leaf
The anti AA patches for Yoshi's Story appear to not work for any appropriate dum...
Just being thorough. Who knows maybe it’ll give someone some insight on other issues knowing about that.
oblique remnant
Do those patches only work with an everdrive or any flashcard can boot them? I think there are also seperate AR Codes for enabling non AA
stable moon
Is this Reddit nonsense or is that true?
quaint rune
It’s his opinion but he’s not working on the core. 
plush summit
Those are just numbers, doesn't really mean much
quaint rune
A lot of people thought/think it’s still not doable
stable moon
It’s his opinion but he’s not working on the core. <:blobshrug:80626682828855709...
Oh I meant the estimate from Robert.
quaint rune
Well I’ll put it this way. Even if it was true. He’s at the last big step, the rdp. It can’t be that huuuuge. He’s also a dad. Dads have a really good superpower on being able to pack things in a little bitty space. If you’ve ever had a road trip with your family and seen your dad pack all the crap in the back of the car and made it fit perfectly like Tetris, that’s the power in action.
compact lark
The anti AA patches for Yoshi's Story appear to not work for any appropriate dum...
I'm here for the N64 accurate AA and blurriness. Tired of the emulator look of N64 lol
stoic parcel
To each their own
devout leaf
Is this Reddit nonsense or is that true?
Not 100% issue free? No software is 100% issue free. Just people on Reddit being “experts” in their own mind.
As a guy in the medical field I’ve seen top comments with 1k upvotes talking about medical topics. Sometimes giving dangerous advice. Can’t take anything there to seriously.
stable moon
Yeah, Reddit is full of garbage. I was just asking if Robert had actually given the 90k LE estimate.
devout leaf
No worries I was more taking a shot at Reddit. Didn’t mean for you to feel called out dude.
stable moon
No worries I was more taking a shot at Reddit. Didn’t mean for you to feel calle...
I gotcha! And totally agree. When you see comments on a topic you have more than a passing knowledge about half the time they just make you scratch your head. It just turns into a weird contest of people trying to sound smart.
It’s nice to be here where you get to see the ideas and inputs from the folks doing the hard work.
wanton sun
Is this Reddit nonsense or is that true?
the bare core will probably fit in like that. Keep in mind that 100k (better 90k) is the max usage if you want any reasonable timing closure and development schedule. I just fear that this is not what users will expect. Some examples of things not included there: savestates, SNAC, optional extras like transfer pak. Advanced turbo options like extra caches. exact (asynchronous) region dependend video timing for PAl/NTSC, mostly required for CRTs, adaptive scanlines, shadowmasks, ....
it could be that such stuff will also fit in nicely, but i don't plan with it. Anything above the bare core = all main N64 features output via HDMI is a plus for me
devout leaf
The games are the most important part. Everything else is truly just bonus.
stable moon
the bare core will probably fit in like that. Keep in mind that 100k (better 90k...
Thanks for chiming in and keeping up the good work!
inner bronze
If we can get bare N64 at original FPS and surpassing most software emulators its good enough for me.
Cant believe we still cant run Mario Kart 64 perfectly smh
devout leaf
the bare core will probably fit in like that. Keep in mind that 100k (better 90k...
How many resources would something like SNAC/SNAX use like it particularly resource heavy? Also when you look at optional content is there something you personally want to add over everything else?
wanton sun
savestates for debugging...i will have a hard time debug anything deeper than some minutes into the game without them
carmine kettle
snac will be a bonus if it fits
mild ether
Is RGB analog output included in the bare core?
wanton sun
snac is probably not that large, but even small things add up
rgb out is currently included, but i'm not sure how good the quality (e.g. original centering interlaced timing) will be when it runs synchronous with the system clock
configurable PLL for original PAL/NTSC video clock costs about 1000 of 40000 ALM, so it's really huge
mild ether
Ah, I see.
carmine kettle
well im not picky when you do complete the core ill use n64 usb wire
wanton sun
time will show what can be done. Maybe we have a core with savestates with some other stuff is missing or so, but i want to have a main build everyone can start and use. Any special builds that might be required if it doesn't fit otherwise, will be optional
carmine kettle
probably going to be two core with different features
inner bronze
Its a pity Everdrives cant work from a transfer pak
wanton sun
i already bought my cart of Pokemon Rot 🙂
mild ether
A bare core with HDMI output and RGB would be amazing and a big improvement over my original console with just an everdrive. It's amazing period if it works at all. I pretty much thought it was the pinnacle of the DE10 when Neo Geo, Turbo Duo and CPS2 cores came so this is all amazing.
inner bronze
What was the color depth of the N64 output anyway and what can the HDMI Direct Video or Analog output?
mild ether
To me anyway.
wanton sun
n64 can do 16 or 24 bit like ps1
carmine kettle
what the pointof having rgb if you got hdmi?
inner bronze
Ask everyone with a CRT
wanton sun
unlike ps1, the n64 can even render polygons in 32bits, but most games don't use it ingame as it costs like 50% performance
mild ether
what the pointof having rgb if you got hdmi?
Analog video.
carmine kettle
oh crt folk duh
mild ether
I have an unhealthy amount of CRTs in my house.
Old games just don't feel right on digital displays to me.
inner bronze
I wish I had space for a CRT right now but my apt is now only 60m2
carmine kettle
yea most ppl feel the same
inner bronze
Im banking on an RT4K
stable moon
Both are nice. PVM into the Retrotink into capture!
carmine kettle
does the retrothink work with the mister
stable moon
Yeah, mister works with the tink.
quaint rune
now you’re playing with Nintendo power
tidal zenith
im not ready for nintendo power
carmine kettle
any option i got to change when i connect no image
native mesa
The release post from like a week ago?
native mesa
I'm excited for the features not the price
I might do another mister build with it though
On my 4k LED tv
native mesa
Same
tidal zenith
embrace the blur
languid dune
I'm really only interested in the bare bones core, so any extras are just that, extras. Looking forward to how it all turns out!
quaint rune
yes praying to just be able to play games and have rtc function for animal crossing
tidal zenith
strap me in for some WAVE RACE SIXTY FOUR
inner bronze
46TSEUQ
tidal zenith
nice password?
inner bronze
oops
word password to memory.
inner bronze
Joke's on you. If that were my password itd show up as asterisks /s
vagrant ivy
password is rated as weak by the checkers
languid dune
Why would you dox @zinc dew 's passwords like that!
vagrant ivy
Estimated 4 minutes to crack
compact lark
Anyone excited with Ocarina of Time?
https://twitter.com/JonComms/status/1688737230221660160
Twitter
quaint rune
How will it be older…..?
lament escarp
i already bought my cart of Pokemon Rot 🙂
I still have my pokemon blau from childhood. Lets trade some mons when we find a link cable thats long enough 😉
native mesa
CRT support is basically mandatory for me. I'd happily sacrifice SNAC and save states etc. for it.
vagrant ivy
CRT support is available over HDMI
just get the adaptor
Also high colour depth over HDMI
native mesa
Yeah if you want to cobble together some out of spec dongle
plush summit
Anyone excited with Ocarina of Time?
https://twitter.com/JonComms/status/1688737...
Yes, its second place to Majora's Mask
devout leaf
OoT and MM just so good. Love the atmosphere of MM.
plush summit
OoT is obviously legendary, but I can't really commit to a playthrough because I know what to expect
I boot up MM and I'm pretty excited to tackle the game how I want
feels fresh
brisk edge
Definitely hasn't clicked for me how old the 3ds is now
The PSP and DS still feel recent 🙃 lol
plush summit
The PSP and DS still feel recent 🙃 lol
The DS is still the best handheld, it has staying power
brisk edge
the DS had an incredible lineage of games. Definitely up there with my favorite handhelds. Got so much enjoyment out of that and my PSP back in the day
hearty python
savestates for debugging...i will have a hard time debug anything deeper than so...
Savestates got you only, if people have the opportunity to save the game progress. So this should be also be included with the minimum core.
brisk drum
Things are stirring in the Saturn front!
vapid hawk
configurable PLL for original PAL/NTSC video clock costs about 1000 of 40000 ALM...
i've always wondered if it would ever make sense to have a seperate build of the core, one for pal one for ntsc - would that help here?
vagrant ivy
yes we could abandon the NSTC core as Pal is clearly superior
lament escarp
I just love the poorly optimized pal convertions that haunted my childhood!
languid dune
Pal was never my pal. NTSC bros for life.
lament escarp
I honestly hated it. I was a really dumb kid but even I noticed something being off with ffx and other games.
hollow rune
I saw Mario 64 on a German N64 once and it looked real gross.
chrome quest
I still have my pokemon blau from childhood. Lets trade some mons when we find a...
If you do still have a working old Pokémon copy, best transfer those mons onto a N64 cart (if they are still around). Old GameBoy batteries are well past borrowed time!
lament escarp
If you do still have a working old Pokémon copy, best transfer those mons onto a...
I replaced all my gameboy batteries a year ago. But I'll get a flasher this week anyway which can copy the save files directly to the pc.
Can also flash some empty cartridges, to make a physical release of my romhack 😉
pure ocean
configurable PLL for original PAL/NTSC video clock costs about 1000 of 40000 ALM...
You could make a PAL and seperate NTSC core? I mean the original hardware is also seperated and we don't need "all in one" just because we can nowadays. It's easy to load cores on MISTer.
devout leaf
But then you have two separate cores with different compatibility, bugs, and updates. I can see that turning into a headache.
inner bronze
Not necessarily harder to manage? Same codebase, different build flags.
hearty python
I believe as long there are no space reasons, It make no sense. Iirc the core is now about 60k LEs so over 30k left.
hasty kayak
Stick to NTSC. Why hamper ourselves with PAL when we don't need to anymore?
Are there any PAL N64 exclusives we will miss out on?
languid dune
Are there any PAL N64 exclusives we will miss out on?
I googled it, and this is what I found on reddit:
zinc dew
There’s an NTSC Taz version
hasty kayak
So those 2 F1 Games are no major loss. They aren't great (I am an F1 Fan from back then). Premier Manager 64... nah who is going to be worried about that? 🙂
zinc dew
Those all have NTSC patches
hearty python
Was there a Region lock, or is it more like 50 to 60 Hz?
languid dune
I only know that japanese games had the physical tabs on the carts for region locking. Remove them (or the tabs in the console), and the games run perfectly fine on North American hardware. Not sure about PAL though.
zinc dew
I’m sure it’ll be fine. Those exclusives are no real loss. If someone really wants to play Taz there’s the unreleased US version which works.
hearty python
Not sure if it’s depends for n64 too, but often the Japan fonts are missing in Pal or Us roms (Bios) of the console
languid dune
I played several import games from Japan on my N64 without any font issues, so I think it should be fine.
One of my local video rental stores back in the day had a bunch of imports where they removed the tabs from the carts. I remember playing Mystical Ninja way before its western release back in the day.
chrome quest
Just on the "no loss". Some of us (minority apparently which always surprises me given the size of Europe), have nostalgia for the old PAL speed specifically. Would be nice to see, of course Robert will do what is needed.
But... I at least need to say it is a loss. It's a loss for me! Perhaps others haven't played in years and mass NTSC consumption has made them forget the difference
Though, for N64 I've only played PAL. It's at least past the music difference of older generations. I think.....? Never played NTSC to know
hearty python
I am personally spoiled by Dreamcast. Most games asked for 50 or 60 hz
But there was a time that not all TVs in Europe can handle the 60 hz
bright nacelle
Call me weird but this game looks pretty fun
It is! But not with a n64 pad! Stick or (my pref) a saturn pad makes it playable.
carmine kettle
pal doesnt i believe
steady basalt
Was there a Region lock, or is it more like 50 to 60 Hz?
Rule of thumb with N64 afaik is don't run pal games on NTSC consoles, don't run NTSC games on pal consoles. With exception of Brazil's PAL-M consoles, those ran NTSC games fine. Pal and Ntsc CIC chips mismatch anyway on cartridges, for everdrives that rule remains.
carmine kettle
aint core base on pal boot or ntsc
vapid hawk
a lot of people play pal because pal versions tend to have more languages too
like rob plays pal partially to play in german
hearty oar
N64 I mostly play 60hz, with an everdrive you can load up NTSC games and play them at 60hz even on a PAL console (with mostly correct timings)
zinc dew
Just on the "no loss". Some of us (minority apparently which always surprises me...
You will be forced to embrace the 60hz
chrome quest
NEVER! (If I go RGB Scart my CRT at least can do it, which is incredibly useful)
tidal glade
NEVER! (If I go RGB Scart my CRT at least can do it, which is incredibly useful)
"I feel the need, the need for speed"
bitter fjord
time will show what can be done. Maybe we have a core with savestates with some ...
will there be a deblur option at least?
chrome quest
"I feel the need, the need for speed"
"I've said it before and I'll say it again. Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it"
zinc dew
Alright time to ask THE REAL QUESTIONS!
Will the core support Stop ‘n’ Swop?
https://www.gamesradar.com/after-25-years-a-modder-has-finally-unlocked-the-n64-secret-nintendo-would-never-allow/
bitter fjord
Stop'n'Swop is just setting some flags in memory
you can set memory to be in a specific state rather than randomized or 00ed
and you'll unlock it
though you might as well just patch the rom, either the file or in memory
zinc dew
Way to ruin the mystique….
😱
😱
bitter fjord
Sorry...
zinc dew
No no it’s ok. I am an educated man now, even if all the magic is gone.
bitter fjord
sadly all it goes is open a hidden area where you can get an egg as some ingame item
but it's not actually used anywhere
zinc dew
That’s pretty cool, it was always a kind of a silly idea but it’s neat people dug into it.
bitter fjord
sadly most N64 games run at a slideshow framerate of 15 to 25 fps
languid ore
I got a bunch of those back in the day with the help of GameShark codes. L for levitate, for example.
bitter fjord
so much so that I consider very few games worth playing
in fact I think the only 60fps game is Fzero X
vapid hawk
there are some n64 games with reasonably solid framerates
hearty oar
It’s a tired meme at this point, but it’s funny how whenever my PC drops frames below 144 fps in modern games it’s a frantic search to figure out the root cause and get things back to fluidity, meanwhile I was totally fine with OoT framerates in the teens as a kid…
zinc dew
You get used to it
vapid hawk
its pretty easy to get used to if its consistent, which i think oot mostly is
i messed around with this when i first got a gsync monitor and found i could get used to framerates as low as like, 20, as long as it was solid
chrome quest
Alright time to ask ***THE REAL QUESTIONS!***
Will the core support **Stop ‘n’ ...
Seemingly a Rare dev commenting on that YouTube video. Mentions some stop n swap code is in DK64 as that would have been the first game in a chain to implement the feature. Would have been very cool
hearty oar
Yeah, it’s like playing games on Switch I guess, you eventually get used to the 30 fps, and yeah it even starts to look fluid if it’s at least consistent, ie TotK
quaint rune
The n64 games with their lower frame rate have this cinematic quality.
zinc dew
I think 10fps is more than enough to simulate motion. Anything else and you’re just wasting on excess.
eternal island
i'm still fine with those crappy framerates. its a slight bit of input delay and a bit more of a blurry effect when playing. i don't care that much unless you go under 15 fps
vapid hawk
the controller latency becomes a problem before fluidity breaks down imo
around 23fps
eternal island
i do prefer higher fps, but it doesn't make or break a game for me
zinc dew
around 23fps
Skill issue
vapid hawk
i was using GTA5 to test and i couldn't drive below 23
zinc dew
I am pro counter strike player, 8fps max, all I need to win
quaint rune
I feel like so many people cheat In that game.
eternal island
i was using GTA5 to test and i couldn't drive below 23
i believe a game has to be made keeping that in mind. sub 20 fps play i mean. oot i believe did
gta5 definitely didn't
vapid hawk
yeah true, n64 probably just has less inherant controller lag in general so it can get away with it
plus its probably polling perfectly on frame
eternal island
ye. wired controller on a crt
zealous hull
it could be that such stuff will also fit in nicely, but i don't plan with it. A...
For what it's worth, I would be more than satisfied with the bare minimum. There is only so much that can be done, and I'm very grateful that you're doing this.
weary palm
n64 can do 16 or 24 bit like ps1
That's a bit strange and overkill considering the colors are sent as 21-bit (7bits × 3) RGB to the DAC. 🙂
vapid hawk
for counterstrike you can't get enough frames
i was running 1280x960 @150hz or something in like 1999
quaint rune
We’re you a employee for Pixar
hearty oar
A coworker of mine used the term “academic real-time” to describe a bug that caused sub-10 fps periods of play
Like yeah, it’s running in real time I guess lol
weary palm
I ran my CRT monitor at 110Hz I think. 1200×900
worldly quartz
I wonder how long it will take for 8bitdo's n64 kit to actually ship. Allegedly it ships tomorrow aug 10
languid dune
"I feel the need, the need for speed"
If we get a 3DO core, your needs shall be fulfilled!
languid dune
in fact I think the only 60fps game is Fzero X
There are others, but they are few and far between.
Mischief Makers being an example.
And a lot of the 2D stuff in general.
Plus the fighting games like Smash, Mortal Kombat 4 and Trilogy, KI Gold, etc.
latent dagger
lol. Killer Instinct "Gold" because the actual hardware wasn't good enough for the original version they said they were gonna release
stoic parcel
zinc dew
<:cringe:1118667004996493385>
Don’t you cringe me, you’re gonna play it with me
stoic parcel
Sure. Clear Super Monkey Daibouken first and that might happen
zinc dew
damn ok, I can’t do that lol
zinc dew
power rangers lightspeed rescue is probably the real worst game on that system
Maybe Batman beyond is worse
orchid nimbus
according to a list I'm looking at Superman 64 is the worst
Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero
then Power Rangers
followed by Batman Beyond : Return of the Joker
I guess the n64 was too hard to develop for - too now
followed by ClayFighters 63 1/3
we're in for some fun with this core 😄
I think Banjo Kazooie/Mario64 and Mario Kart 64/zeldas will be the most played games
languid dune
Way of the Warrior baby!
elfin relic
3do is only kusoge
languid dune
Naughty Dog's masterpiece.
zinc dew
according to a list I'm looking at Superman 64 is the worst
Alright hear me out
Superman 64 is terrible
that was it
Carmageddon 64 is worse though
I would know, I am cursed with both games
atomic stratus
Don’t hate me, but I didn’t hate the ring levels in Supes 64 
wanton sun
i've always wondered if it would ever make sense to have a seperate build of the...
yes it would save those 1000 ALMs. But if i can avoid it, i will
orchid nimbus
Don’t hate me, but I didn’t hate the ring levels in Supes 64 <:nintendo:80787417...
you absolute madman finished that game 🙂
gutten morgen @wanton sun
I should have said mad-grandma @atomic stratus 😄
lament escarp
Ist doch viel zu früh @wanton sun
wanton sun
it's my usual time 😦
lament escarp
I'm training myself to work 8 hours again since right now I'm only working 7. The pain is real, but starting next year it'll spare me the friday.
zinc dew
Damn, imagine playing the N64 core on this inflatable chair:
elfin relic
inflatable furniture is something I think we should all be glad stayed in the 90s and didn't leave
the look on that kid's face
mother why
quaint rune
Of all the controllers to use as a chair. The 64 is the least comfiest looking 😂 bruhaha
worldly quartz
looks like the 8bitdo kit got delayed, this morning it didn't have an aug 20 date, now it has "(Ships on Aug. 20th, 2023)" on the product and shipping date or could just be for orders made from today
mellow raft
If we get a 3DO core, your needs shall be fulfilled!
Yeah then you can play plumbers don't wear ties
pliant valve
Play a Mario game, he already doesn't wear ties.
worldly quartz
I mean, that game is coming out soon on modern platforms, any other games that would make 3do core worthwhile?
I just hope it's not censored. I know the console ones were
Are there plans for SNAC support on the n64 core? Any info on how many controllers can be connected?
pliant valve
There's that one rare RPG which is the only one on 3DO.
wanton sun
first hacky version of the RDP pixel pipeline is implemented. So far it only supports solid color and gradient shaded colors, but as the command decoder now supports all kind of polygon commands, at least it doesn't crash anymore on most things thrown at it
e.g. textured triangles test:
shaded of course looks nicer
next task is to fetch single texels (no filtering) and apply it as color
again, don't expect games to run, but some of Kroms simple RDP demos show stuff now
remote hatch
thank You! 🙂
quick arch
vector demo could show more things also
wanton sun
does it for you? i only get black screen
quick arch
Previous commit It raise E400
With rectangle black and rectangles blue dark
wanton sun
it doesn't show anything anymore, but E800 = color combine mode not implemented. Possible that the previous hack to allow NICCC to run was showing something that doesn't work anymore as the hack is removed
wanton sun
before, every polygon was using the fixed blend color. Now it only uses it when the game configures the blender to use that color, otherwise it will use e.g. texture color or fog or one of the other 8 options, whatever the game wants to use. Possible that some things don't work anymore as only 2 of the 8 modes are implemented
quick arch
thank you for the explanation !
lament escarp
I can't wait for the day we can boot horrible mangled games.
latent dagger
I can't wait to play Casltevania64 with missing glitchy textures and 10fps
I need this core to support the higher quality Dolby output audio that some games used (like Castlevania64)
It legit only had one high quality audio file that benefitted from Dolby and that's the violin song at the intro/main screen of the game
it had no business being that high quality and that well composed
hollow rune
again, don't expect games to run, but some of Kroms simple RDP demos show stuff ...
How do I use this?
silent marten
How do I use this?
Transfer the rbf over to your SDcard, find or dump a pif rom and name it boot.rom, make a folder in games called N64 and place your games/homebrew and the boot.rom in that folder, load the core
Almost every game will not boot except Namco museum 64
hollow rune
Almost every game will not boot except Namco museum 64
I know. I just want to be part of the journey
vapid hawk
awesome progress!
quick arch
Great 🙂
daring meteor
Didn't we install the Expansion Pak?
oblique remnant
The Pak is even blinking on the screen 🙂
quick arch
@oblique remnant which version are you using for both games (US, EU, JP) ?
oblique remnant
Apparently the "lodge" versions thats in the everdrive pack. Not sure what region they are.
US versions jus black screen
fair stump
Does the Namco museum still work with that new rbf? I can navigate the menus but it's a black screen after selecting a game
quick arch
US versions jus black screen
Yes I tried that one. I will check lodge one 🙂
old vortex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kekitaCO6Wk
Damn, this is great. Also from your description I'm imagining it transitioning to NES-style beeps and boops afterwards. Haha.
worn delta
Hmm, that's odd about the expansion pak screen as I thought that was on by default. Although maybe the ram is there but there is another check that needs done that isn't implemented
oblique remnant
Well not sure whats exaclty different in the lodgenet version. Official versions just black screen
latent dagger
Damn, this is great. Also from your description I'm imagining it transitioning t...
nah, it's not terrible audio quality, but the overall complexity of the music drops significantly and is more atmospheric sounding than something more complexly composed due to storage constraints of the cartridge format.
dude in this video mentions it and you can hear it
quick arch
Does the Namco museum still work with that new rbf? I can navigate the menus but...
it works for me but sometimes it could hangs
worn delta
For anyone interested, I downloaded the gigaleak pack on archive to see what was in there. It contains these 5 files and a folder of 74 tech demos:
Beta Luigi in SM64.z64
SM64 Test Stages.z64
Super Mario 64 (Chinese) (Rumble).z64
Super Mario 64 (US Shindou) (Fixed Rumble + Saving).z64
Town in MK64.z64
Unfortunately all the tech demos are .n64 format, so won't be playable on the core for now
zinc dew
Thanks for researching!
worn delta
Awhile back I tested all the other gigaleak roms on the various cores and logged them in a sheet, so made a tab for the N64 ones now, so if anyone wants to see what is in the pack it is logged here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17tfM5DbyrqL2qjr5RFmmNhUmqZTK_kTIqNGqwDa42vk/edit#gid=1839790154
storm void
Unfortunately all the tech demos are .n64 format, so won't be playable on the co...
In spite of the file ending, they all seem to be in BigEndian (.z64) format. The voice.n64 demo even has a nice error show up on screen (mostly in japanese)
worn delta
Oh, that's interesting, did you rename them to run?
worn delta
Nice!
I guess I could just add them to the main testing sheet if people are up for testing these as well as the builds come in, probably more likely to see things running in some of these than games for awhile yet
storm void
tile_rect2d.n64 shows garbage, but half the screen is ... oddly organized garbage 😄
worn delta
Have added that to the main N64 test sheet as a tab at the far right so can keep a tab on these ones too
storm void
In spite of the file ending, they all seem to be in BigEndian (.z64) format. The...
There's also a one-frame pikachu before the error
pearl tusk
silent marten
<:chefkiss:930198302752915567>
Is this from the core?
pearl tusk
Is this from the core?
Retrotink 5X
silent marten
Got my hopes up for a second xD
mellow raft
Well not sure whats exaclty different in the lodgenet version. Official versions...
Find it odd those even boot before official games do tbh
broken viper
Is this from the core?
Graphics work has barely started. At best we might see a starting image from a simple game that took like an hour to render in. For a normal person getting the code to the point where you could get images from the middle of a game would be like a year or more of development time. Even seeing an image like that from an unplayable game in 3 months from now would be completely ridiculous.
silent marten
Graphics work has barely started. At best we might see a starting image from a s...
I know right
daring meteor
Graphics work has barely started. At best we might see a starting image from a s...
Knowing Robert, you'll be surprised hahahaha
steady basalt
Is it possible to issue a warn to anyone that uses "pack" instead of "pak"?
broken viper
Knowing Robert, you'll be surprised hahahaha
I definitely wouldn't bet against him, but I also don't want him to feel any kind of pressure to always deliver unbelievable results.
Like delivering a semi-functional super smash bros a week after he starts working on graphics lol
silent marten
We don't expect anything, it just happens with Robert
broken viper
Things "just happening" are probably a result of him not taking his Christmas tree out of his house until months after Christmas has passed and also being incredibly talented while pumping every free second he has into the project. Just saying I don't want him to feel like that is the expectation and feel pressure to deliver impossible results.
compact depot
Is it possible to issue a warn to anyone that uses "pack" instead of "pak"?
Unless it’s inside a gif, no
topaz otter
I saw Mario 64 on a German N64 once and it looked real gross.
its because peach made mario bratwurst instead of a cake right
oblique remnant
https://youtu.be/HK_EPiRkFew
interesting, this specific N64 hardware seems to have more ram. I wonder how good or bad the Input lag was one those things as it's streamed 😄
worn delta
Are these Lodgenet games in the Everdrive pack?
oblique remnant
Are these Lodgenet games in the Everdrive pack?
yes under betas / prototypes
worn delta
Ace, thanks
silent marten
Things "just happening" are probably a result of him not taking his Christmas tr...
Ohh for sure, all I meant by that is when he was working on the PSX core, we would let him know a bug with the expectation of it being fixed in like a week or 2 weeks then an hour or less later, FPGAzumSpass is typing....
sullen harbor
The benefit here hopefully is that since there is a significantly smaller games list compared to the ps1 the bug reporting wont be so big
silent marten
Hopefully and hopefully not 🙂 us testers want to find bugs but also want the core to just work as well 🙂
sullen harbor
Yeah but what 388 games not including multi region releases is a fair sight shorter than like 4000 games for ps1
I just want nintendo rare 1st party games and like rocket robot on wheels to work
oblique remnant
I E002 'm Turak
wanton sun
what is that, some extra intro screen in the lodgenet games that already work?
is that really new with the rdp changes?
oblique remnant
it's the Turok E3 Kiosk Demo from '97. just those 2 intro screens work 🙂
wanton sun
honestly, i would expect more games to have something(e.g. audio) working with the current RDP state, so i guess there is something else preventing them from starting up. But i will not investigate until RDP is somewhat stable to e.g. load a savestate in a game and render some images
have to focus on one part, it's more efficient than switching context all the time 🙂
devout leaf
I still can’t believe how far everything has progressed. Hopefully you’re able to rest and relax between this and work.
wanton sun
yes, i learned my lesson and don't start new mini tasks in the evening anymore, so mostly i can complete them and rest well without working into the night
there is no point in such a long project to be 1 week or even 1 month faster when it will easily take more than 1 year anyway
lament escarp
You're already way ahead of schedule anyway.
daring meteor
A question - Is your software emulator able to create those save states, or is it something else that makes them?
zinc dew
it's the Turok E3 Kiosk Demo from '97. just those 2 intro screens work 🙂
That’s pretty cool, thanks for sharing those!
silent marten
Btw just to confirm I had the same black screen on Namco Museum 64
wanton sun
A question - Is your software emulator able to create those save states, or is i...
yes, i try to keep emulator and core as compatible as possible, so like 95% of the savestates work in both direction. That's typically good enough, if some savestate doesn't work, i rather create a second one instead of filling core/emu with endless extra logic
well, that is for previous systems, e.g. psx. For n64 the core cannot create savestates yet and loading them doesn't help much yet
daring meteor
Got it, makes sense
silent marten
Ohhh Ms Pacman worked that time 😮
wanton sun
Btw just to confirm I had the same black screen on Namco Museum 64
it's not stable. i think you have a good chance that starting one of the 6 games works, but maybe 25% of the time it hangs. also F1 always hangs after some seconds
once you are in any of the 5 other games i didn't had a hang yet
silent marten
it's not stable. i think you have a good chance that starting one of the 6 games...
Ahhh makes sense 🙂 it is still a bootable and mostly playable game on the core 🙂
wanton sun
well, i didn't invest any time into research something from the game yet, other than the color bug
(and i'm not very motivated, rather want to spend time getting a "real" game working)
blissful plaza
That's really understandable.
silent marten
Yeah
I agree with you, I mostly wanted to test I had controls set up OK for when the time comes to test the "real" games
languid dune
Great progress here as well! Between N64 and Saturn, it is such a fun time to have a MiSTer.
fair stump
I just learned there was a Japanese Evangelion game for the system and it looks shockingly good. I look forward to trying it out in the near future 😉
worn delta
Has that one been translated?
fair stump
Romhacking only lists one that's korean
marble cargo
The Neon Genesis Evangelion game on Nintendo 64 has an unintentionally hilarious OST because of how the rearranged music sounds like it came from Super Mario 64.
dreamy kayak
It amazes me how far this core has come is such a short time
inner bronze
Shut up, old man.
orchid nimbus
SATURN RULES!
wong channel dorkface
brisk drum
wong channel dorkface
Fully aware! Sega does what nintendont !
topaz otter
dont' tell taco that sega lost that war, he might not be able to handle it
thorn flax
sega may have lost the war.
but something far worse happened to its winners.
blissful plaza
#1046941029296779344 message
hearty oar
Risking incurring the wrath of Robby with all this gif posting, but I can’t help myself
stoic parcel
Guardian Heroes should have been #1
worn delta
Nice, what mods you doing?
brisk edge
bios mod? replacing the battery or the fuse near the controller port? trying to think of what mods on dreamcast require soldering
hearty oar
Could be a HDMI mod I guess
stoic parcel
Dreamcast with 1080p HDMI out, quiet fan, and no horrible GDROM drive beeping... mm. yes that would be pretty nice.
hearty oar
HDMI mod is probably the only major thing I haven’t done to my dreamcast
Well I still use the original PSU also I guess
stoic parcel
Oh, pico psu mod too yeah
DC and PS2 are systems I would be willing to make room for.. if sufficiently modded
worn delta
Swap out that nasty orange LED for a nice cool blue or purple
stoic parcel
PS2 would need to be a slim model, internal HDD restoration mod with frontside SD card input, and HDMI output @ 1080p
hearty oar
I of course bought the worst possible PS2 slim model back in the day that now can’t be modded with free McBoot and lacks the vestigial IDE stuff
Best it can do is boot from DVD and play games from USB or network share
stoic parcel
Network drive probably works fine, Id guess? never used that. Just SD card on the phat model in a network adapter
hearty oar
Yeah, it’s just the lack of free mcboot that’s the real annoyance, might just go ahead and install a mod chip at some point, assuming those are still a thing…
elfin relic
I think you can still get modbo [knockoffs]
I installed one in a slim, it's kind of hell but it works when it wants to
latent dagger
or... (hear me out here) .... you snatch up an old PS2 second hand for dirt cheap in the local market either older slim or fat model.
they exist
covert bough
Ps2 fat with network drive is clunky but works. You can upload games to hdd via ethernet
latent dagger
There's a dude in LA selling a fat for $20. says it powers on but don't know what's wrong with it saying it's for parts
ocean lily
problem is some games like xenosaga 2 don't like running off a network drive
hearty oar
I was going to say, actually looking at pricing and the effort involved I think if I seriously want to revisit ps2 then yeah, I’ll just buy a new easily softmodded one
covert bough
Ps2 games are dirt cheap too if you wants discs
hearty oar
Yeah I’ve got loads, problem is they are all PAL
ocean lily
music tempo gets all messed up because the softsynth runs on the IOP that's also handling all the network stuff
latent dagger
someone else in my part of the world selling a clean looking fat with two see through blue controllers and a copy of Zone of the Enders for $50
ocean lily
Ps2 games are dirt cheap too if you wants discs
laughs in xenosaga 3
latent dagger
those controllers look nice actually. I'm not interested in their PS2 cuz I have one, but I want those controllers
covert bough
Only 425 bucks for factory sealed
ocean lily
I've got a pretty see-through blue PS2
ocean lily
latent dagger
did they actually release a blue seethrough PS2 like that or is that a custom shell?
ocean lily
I keep hearing .hack is great - I've just never played it
ocean lily
It's an official PS2; Japanese "ocean blue"
ocean lily
it do be that way
devout leaf
Nice, what mods you doing?
Changing the controller fuse, rechargeable battery, and removing the 12v regulator.
latent dagger
definitely modded though to play english titles lol
ocean lily
saw it on ebay and said "that'll make a nice first PS2"
ocean lily
definitely modded though to play english titles lol
freemcboot ftw
devout leaf
saw it on ebay and said "that'll make a nice first PS2"
It's a beautiful PS2
ocean lily
games off the HDD or network don't care that it's a Japanese PS2
latent dagger
bruh, I'm seeing one right now that just has shitty stickers but looks to be undamaged and in working order for $30
actually, it's missing two feets in the middle but the corner feets are there
ocean lily
I need to try to find a matching ocean blue vertical stand for it tho
not that the phat really needs one, but looks better with, I think
latent dagger
there's a midnight blue seethrough for $43 OBO https://www.ebay.com/itm/354766221414
hearty oar
damn, I feel like I'm being goaded into irresponsible purchasing decisions here, there are some nice systems available for dangerously cheap, even just on eBay...
elfin relic
ps2s are great, buy some
latent dagger
I so want to grab an ocean blue console now along with two controllers... but I don't have money to waste
My grandma is watching Top Gun
I can hear Danger Zone playing on the TV right now
question is... is it the first one, or Maverick?
ocean lily
the first ps2 I bought was a regular one but only lasted long enough to leave positive feedback before it started glitching out
deft tree
I've been playing Mario Tennis GBC thanks to 64
ocean lily
PS2 is just an overclocked N64
maiden wyvern
i am cleaning my ps2 atm and i found 4 moths so far
latent dagger
they just want sooo much money for it
like bro... sell it to me for $50
not $100 plus import and shipping fees
criesinpoverty
ok not really poverty, but like, I'm currently out of work so I can't be wasting money lol.
ocean lily
looks like I paid about $100 usd for my ocean blue ps2
latent dagger
why do some ocean blue controllers have black cable but some have a classic PS1 style grey/white cable with a purple connector?
oh wait, is it a different color of blue?
the black cable one's look darker while the light cable looks lighter with more powdery pastel looking colored symbols on buttons
this is interesting
perhaps a Japanese vs rest of the world difference
wait... is the lighter colored one with the grey cable actually a PS1 dualshock? 😲
oh it is.
lol it says PSOne right on the controller
ocean lily
there's different blues
thorn flax
yep the site I mentioned shows them all
ocean lily
ocean blue, "clear blue", and I think ice blue, among others
dreamy kayak
Looking forward to playing the best N64 game ever. Daikatana 64.
frail jolt
Was this a special edition or a new custom case?
I want
latent dagger
it's apparently a Japanese variant called Ocean Blue
so if you want to play anything other than Japanese games you gotta mod it/use freemcboot
elfin relic
Just playing Japanese games doesn't seem like a problem to me
latent dagger
they are going for a minimum of about $100 before taxes, shipping, and import fees on eBay
so like, $150 for just the console with no controllers
frail jolt
so if you want to play anything other than Japanese games you gotta mod it/use f...
You can use a ps2 without free mcboot?
latent dagger
uh.. what?
frail jolt
It was a joke...
latent dagger
oh lol
frail jolt
Meaning I only use free mcboot
Having a kid I had to either get rid of all my video game stuff or put it all in storage or.....
I chose the third option, get rid of all physical media and mod everything
elfin relic
always be modding
latent dagger
looking at all the stuff available on eBay it would cost me about $230-$250 for a complete ocean blue setup with a vertical stand, memory card and controllers
frail jolt
I got ask my games on a 2tb
stoic parcel
I cant imagine actually wanting 16tb worth of games for the PS2. I never went over 128GB on my phat with SD card