Still works.
#Nintendo 64
languid dune
worldly flint
Oh yeah, you're right it's boot.bin
remote hatch
I just load the bios from the folder 😋
worldly flint
I wonder if Saturn has the same kind of diagnostic tools that N64 does. I feel like it's a different problem since it seems N64 doesn't have the bandwidth issues that Saturn has.
remote hatch
It's more about making sure someone doesn't delete the bios , you don't need a file with the name boot.bin
hearty python
I am really so blind? Saw a newer version of the n64 core here. Now I have put the sdcard in my computer, I can’t find it anymore. Was it deleted?
blissful plaza
#1096015979055697940 message
hearty python
Thx, i was blind... 😂
topaz otter
Chopper attacks framerate is atrocious
steady basalt
I wonder if Saturn has the same kind of diagnostic tools that N64 does. I feel l...
My Saturn developed a strange RAM issue, I looked for diagnostic tools but didn't found any.
hearty python
Perhaps concentrate first on the ean database and simulate the ean was entered in the seach field. I have found a nice litte app for ios, thats add the scanning and some more functions on the keybard, act as a own keyboard. So no need to add this to the web. Think similar app is done for Android.
I will try it with the app and the function "Textscanner" meanwhile
hearty python
Simple Games like Daytona USA works with the textscanner, just testet. 👋
restive anchor
@wanton sun it’s always fun reading your patreon updates, and as an embedded guy it’s interesting to see how you handle the peculiarities of the chips. It would be interesting to see you handle something like hexagon but there’s no fun to be had there sadly
Debugging baseband code is beyond tedious
Tracing shared register shifts over out of order execution makes my head hurt
weary palm
void hemlock
same same. that is my go-to n64 game asap
back when I was a kid I traded like thousands of dollars worth of legos that I had in a huge tub for $50 just so I could buy Mystical Ninja after renting it
deft tree
i need to go delve into it more, i got through the intro segment
carmine kettle
brisk edge
cerulean elk
I don’t think Goemon could work that board with those polish sausages he calls fingers
devout leaf
I wanted to take a quick crack at it.
elfin depot
It's extra funny (to me) because the tag line is literally change the system
worn delta
I don’t think Goemon could work that board with those polish sausages he calls f...
Goemon: "More, more cowbell!"
ocean lily
needs moar brian tho
native mesa
Gotta wait for the OpenAI one
void hemlock
haha, I'm using my own custom realistic model, but using a reference image it really wants to keep it animated. and it doesn't have any ganbare goemon data to do it from scratch :/
native mesa
I've been screwing around way too much with trying to disable both AA and Dithering. I can't seem to turn off the horrible dithering. At this point I think I'm better off waiting for the core than original hardware
worn delta
Was there anything else Brian was in? Like comics or something? I have never thought to look at all. Maybe there is deep Brian lore out there.
native mesa
Yes
worn delta
Wow, they even called it "Brian's Quest "
native mesa
Also it's Jean-Jacques McCulloch to you
orchid nimbus
@zinc dew Q uest64 should be unbanned 😄
zinc dew
not my call, I’m just cursed with it
zinc dew
Quest64
orchid nimbus
I have 64 questions
zinc dew
shoot
worn delta
I like that Brian 64 is such a dead brand that someone can just claim to be the official Twitter for it and nobody cares enough to challenge this meme account
deft tree
The cover photo is immaculate
zinc dew
@cerulean elk - “I really don’t want to have to play Quest64 for a video”
🧐
languid dune
<@484201598218928128> - *“I really don’t want to have to play Quest64 for a vide...
I always assumed that it would be his 50K subscriber special. Gotta keep the tradition!
broken viper
<@484201598218928128> - *“I really don’t want to have to play Quest64 for a vide...
He knows he is going to have to demo it at some point. It is the mascot of the n64 core haha
lament escarp
I'd be happy to play brians game. Because it would mean the core is pretty complete and with that many people talking about it it must be good. Right?!?
inner bronze
I want this as a papercraft 🤔
cerulean elk
<@484201598218928128> - *“I really don’t want to have to play Quest64 for a vide...
But I’ll do it…at 50K
cerulean elk
At my sub rate expect that…spring 2025
topaz otter
is there a logical reason for brian's hair to look like a question mark
other than akira toriyama already did a little boy with a tail
so the artist ran all out of good ideas
I saw that lmao
orchid nimbus
😉 good - your eyes work perfectly
orchid nimbus
remote hatch
https://tenor.com/view/dragonball-vegetta-angry-gif-5179929
Hahahha good one 👌🏻
native mesa
ahoge (plural ahoges)
(fandom slang, usually in the context of Japanese-style art) An exaggerated cowlick (lock of hair). It adds cuteness to a character and is usually indicative of character traits like airheadedness.
sullen harbor
I wonder where that trope came from
There's probably an origin point in an anime or manga the rest derive from where the cowlick means idiot or often "near delusionally over confident"
But that in of itself must have come from somewhere
if the trope itself is purely old enough
you might be able to attribute it to media exports from the US during the immediate post war period up to the sixties (which impacted film and manga at the time as john ford films influenced kurosawa and disney was a primary influence for Tezuka) so for all we know that whole could be born from, lol, fuckin Alfalfa from little rascles and then adapted to their storytelling from there.
lol
zinc dew
I thought it was a “in tall grass” finder for when your character is in tall grass
native mesa
My money on on Alfalfa and his innocense / lack of wisdom
They really exaggerated the cowlick over the years.
"It's what Americans call a cowlick: that one section of hair that, when you comb it, always wants to go in a different direction.
Imagine a society where ideal boys have clean, pressed clothes and neatly combed hair. The most rambunctious in any group will be the first to wiggle around so much that his shirt gets untucked, his socks fall down, and his hair gets mussed up.
The exaggerated cowlick, then, was used as a sort of shorthand to indicate the stock-character cute-but-mischievous, wiggly, or cheeky kid.
His opposite is the stock-character hyper-polite little girl with perfect curls in a starched, ruffled dress and shiny shoes."
sullen harbor
It's also important to note that Little Rascals were also movie serials and alfalfa had the top pointed cowlick for a lot of them
weary palm
zealous hull
It still feels weird that Mario's facial hair/eyebrows don't match his hair.
But it feels weirder when they do.
zealous hull
oh cool i hate that, thanks
remote hatch
ocean lily
Quarmio
zinc dew
let’s try to minimize gifs if we can, sorry to be a downer
elfin relic
you can't minimize gifs in discord, they haven't implemented /collapse yet
ocean lily
let’s try to minimize gifs if we can, sorry to be a downer
Brian disapproves
cold pollen
let’s try to minimize gifs if we can, sorry to be a downer
I knew the power would go to your head
zinc dew
I knew the power would go to your head
sorry it’s not that, I’m just trying to follow-up on mod team requests
I love animated gifs myself
cold pollen
don't lie for them
zealous hull
You seem like a genuinely kind person, Robby.
cold pollen
but he loves GIFs
ocean lily
as long as we have Qυesτ64, it'll be ok
zinc dew
zinc dew
Lol don’t go buck wild on the gifs, keep it to general, off topic, or memes
brisk drum
Shoot forgot
zinc dew
now you must beat quest64 10 times!
brisk drum
Thus is my penitence ! Has decreed by the Robby
neat sierra
You should fashion a flail out of quuuuuest64 carts and n64 controller cables and whip your shoulders bloody
neat sierra
It’s the path to purity
zinc dew
This channel is going to get pretty crazy, in a good way, once games start working
zinc dew
the bouncing hat kills me
I think it’s a cool walk cycle but entirely too distracting for game use.
topaz otter
theres a few other ones that are even wackier than that
I've seen one at 120fps where every part of mario jiggles like a cartoon
zinc dew
haha that’s cool
tidal zenith
You seem like a genuinely kind person, Robby.
Albeit one that doesn’t like fun!
devout leaf
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/s4drt4/mario_3_frame_vs_24_frame_animat...
I feel like we can add some more frames and really make it unsettlingly smooth.
maiden wyvern
discord only gives you a certain number of gifs per month for the server and once you go over Robby pays for them out of pocket
so simmer down
zinc dew
LOL
languid dune
let’s try to minimize gifs if we can, sorry to be a downer
A day that will live in infamy. 
solemn maple
Got my kitsch-bent replacement parts today. Will be interesting to see how much of a difference they make.
whole zinc
Got my kitsch-bent replacement parts today. Will be interesting to see how much ...
What things did you get
compact depot
let’s try to minimize gifs if we can, sorry to be a downer
Video killed the @zinc dew star
solemn maple
What things did you get
Two sets of sticks, bowls and gears.
whole zinc
Nice!
blissful plaza
zinc dew
The future passed us by 
I’m pretty excited to share cool recommendations with people once games are playable. I mean Quest64 is meme lol material but there’s some really awesome games that not a lot of people know about.
oblique remnant
zinc dew
That’s pretty cool! My Toys R Us was never stacked like that tho.
oblique remnant
Party like its 1999
cold pollen
I never got to see Toys R Us until I was an adult sadly
zinc dew
I never got to see Toys R Us until I was an adult sadly
What, did you grow up in a small town?
remote hatch
Toy R US - for me it was just some legend , someone wrote something no one saw haha
cold pollen
Did see the occasional toy store and some kind of Gamestop or variant at one point
cold pollen
Toy R US - for me it was just some legend , someone wrote something no one saw h...
Same lol
Kind of like 7/11 now lol
lament escarp
My family was always too poor to buy me gaming consoles, mister helps me redo the childhood I always wanted lol
zinc dew
My family was always too poor to buy me gaming consoles, mister helps me redo th...
Im sorry to hear but also welcome to the fold, brother. Glad you could be with us! 🍻
lament escarp
Im sorry to hear but also welcome to the fold, brother. Glad you could be with u...
Thanks a lot.:)
neat sierra
7/11 isn’t the worst thing to miss out on. It’s rare IMO to go to one that isn’t dirty with shady characters hanging out and the stank of desperation
remote hatch
I collected money with my brother for a Snes, then a PSX ,we have succeeded 🙂
zinc dew
7/11 isn’t the worst thing to miss out on. It’s rare IMO to go to one that isn’...
lolol, growing up that was the place I’d go to for a slushee and to play arcade games
neat sierra
Love the juxtaposition of US vs Japan 7/11
Yeah maybe it’s a New England thing that they are typically pretty shabby. Can’t say I’ve gone out of my way to visit them when traveling
thorn flax
I desperately want a fan translation of Animal Forest. that would be a cherry on top of the MiSTer gaming library
neat sierra
Other than Japan when I visited a couple convenience stores including them just to see how it was
neat sierra
You were spot on
Yeah I don’t think they own a mop, they just replace the cheap linoleum when the filth gets too high 😉
I kid, they never replace it
covert bough
In New England 7/11s most of the shady people are playing keno. That's the only game I've seen played in there
neat sierra
In New England 7/11s most of the shady people are playing keno. That's the only ...
Don’t forget spending their entire weekly income on scratch tickets
Hmm this is N64 chat? What are we even doing? God someone moderate this
golden ocean
My family was always too poor to buy me gaming consoles, mister helps me redo th...
Same 😁 visiting all these games that were impossible to find back then since we never had official support from publishers.
cerulean elk
Note to all N64 fans...dont bother playing GASP btw lolol
cerulean elk
isn’t everyone in New England shady?
thems fighting words
but we did have a lot of trees
zinc dew
lol
cerulean elk
and no keno in VT either
deft tree
Note to all N64 fans...dont bother playing GASP btw lolol
i had to play deadly arts in the mystery tourney at combo breaker last year, its so fucking bad
cerulean elk
i had to play deadly arts in the mystery tourney at combo breaker last year, its...
It’s terrible. Which is funny because Konami made good fighting games
Check share media as an example. I did a vid on Battle Tryst and GASP…basically half the same game
wanton sun
for some N64 news: systemtest works now despite 2 things. I completly removed the TLB from the test suite and some memory exception that would crash a game i didn't implement yet(the 4 failed cases in the screenshot)
hopefully i find time today to complete the rsp->rdp interface and can upload a new build. No idea if any game would be happy with that already and play some music
next days i will implement texture loading and texturing, Probably the first chance to see something more, as nearly all games use some kind of texturing(it's also used for sprites) and the RDp currently crashes if such a command is issued
zinc dew
if we can get buck bumble to play it’s menu music then it will all be worth it 
hearty python
Great Progress ! How full is the FPGA now ?
wanton sun
still 56%
hearty python
Good work
wanton sun
texturing will however be an ongoing process. While PSX only really had 3 different texturing modes, N64 has 20. So i will implement only the easy/most common ones first and add more later
(or better: i will implement the ones that MK64 needs)
have to start somewhere 😅
hearty python
Good to know. Lets see the fillrates, i am so exited
I bet we will see dirty tricks of the developers too.
solemn maple
Does your software emulator have all 20 texture modes?
zinc dew
texturing will however be an ongoing process. While PSX only really had 3 differ...
Oh my gosh are you kidding? why so many lol
I didn’t even know the PS1 had more than one!
wanton sun
it's 5: RGB, YUV, Palette, Alpha and Grey but also 4 different depth: 4,8,16,32bit
so each mode can in theory be used in all depth, but some are not allowed according to the documentation
that doesn't stop games from using them
my emulator is still missing 10 out of those 20, 8 of them are forbidden in theory, the other 2 i have not seen yet
most important for now are RGB in 16 and 32bit, that covers like 50% of the cases
hearty python
Think 8 and 16 bit depth is more common if with depth the count of the colors meant.
wanton sun
I didn’t even know the PS1 had more than one!
psx has 16bit RGB or 4/8bit palette
zinc dew
ohhh right, thanks for explaining it!
steady basalt
What texture modes MK64 needs?
wanton sun
4 bit grey, 8 bit grey, 8 bit color lookup, 16bit rgb and 32bit rgb (ingame)
only checked the first track
hearty python
When texturing is done, then only TLB is needed to complete the RDP ?
wanton sun
TLB is not need for RDP, it's CPU
texturing unfortunatly is only 10% of the RDP
it also need color blending, color combining, mip mapping, z buffering, alpha calculation, dither, noise, ...
hearty python
Sounds complicade. Can you reuse some Parts of the PSX core ?
wanton sun
no 😦
but at least i have a c++ implementation that seems good with a lot of games already, so i know where i have to start
and i can always compare rendering results against it and simulate the RDP alone with display lists
hearty python
So i guess thats the better looking games will run later?
wanton sun
well, my emulator can run Banjo, Majoras Mask and Perfect Dark, so i would say it's not that far off
the bigger problem are seldom used modes
e.g. conker and mario tennis use a forbidden 8 bit mode
hearty python
OK, thats sound not bad. Have not expected that perfect dark run on your emulator.
Why are they forbidden ?
wanton sun
haven't tried any of these for longer, but at least it runs until ingame
the documentation says you shouldn't use it and doesn't tell you what they do
but it's not impossible to find out. Angrylion does implement all forbidden modes, so the knowledge is there in theory
hearty python
Luckily there aren't as many games for the N64 as there are for the PS1, so should be a lot more manageable.
cerulean elk
the documentation says you shouldn't use it and doesn't tell you what they do
Sounds like the 3DO M2 SDK docs. It will just straight up say “don’t use this”…and never explains what will happen if you do. Just a black box warning
wanton sun
probably it makes it even more interesting for some developers...."Oh I should not use, let's try....looks good and is forbidden, so extra cool, let's keep it"
hearty python
Do you build in a trigger so that you recognize when a non-existent mode is addressed, or is it your long-term goal to build in all modes?
it's like little kids. The forbidden exerts a special charm.
I'm really curious how much FPS you will be able to get at the beginning. I still can't really believe that the FPGA here achieves more speed than your software emulator.
wanton sun
yes, my emulator already has a trigger for it and the core will trigger a error code
that reminds me that i need to add an option to turn it off, there are really many error flags now 😅
RDP will get like 8 more for all the submodules and their different modes
cerulean elk
Oh hey I had a question on a vid @wanton sun will there be a toggle to reduce down the ram to just base spec? Apparently there are a few edge cases where the ram expansion causes some odd issues. Space Station Silicon Valley being one? And I wanted to get an informed answer
(SSSV apparently freezes in the intro with the ram expansion inserted on real hardware)
wanton sun
yes i will add this at some point...i actually have to implement the 8mbyte expansion mode fully before and can add 4mbyte in the same step. Currently games can use more than 8mbyte....
the internal bus allows for more address bits and when you read behind the available ram you get zeros. It does not wrap around like other systems do it
cerulean elk
yes i will add this at some point...i actually have to implement the 8mbyte expa...
👍 thanks for letting me know. I didn’t want to answer the comment til I checked even though I highly assumed there would be
hearty python
It would be interesting to see if there are games that simply take all the memory that is additionally available.
broken creek
I think this might’ve been asked but I can’t seem to find it in the search. Is there a good possibility that there will be a turbo or performance option in the N64 core to improve the slideshow frame rates that many games experience on real hardware?
hearty python
I will be happy to get original Speed. Any other is luxus that have to be later checked. There should be some possibilities, but dont expect higher clockrates 😂
silent marten
Nice work Robert
Guess I will drop this here now 🙂
It is very very basic, but it is a start non the less
solid crest
That spreadsheet is not public, needs access permissions
worn delta
We have a testing matrix made up if you are wanting to join in when we have a new build
lament escarp
Hoo boy this is getting really exciting!
molten silo
Yup! It's feeling realer than ever 😄
zenith orchid
I bet a lot of homebrew uses CPU instead of RDP. perhaps the implementation of RSP might already do a lot for such software
lament escarp
Does a single 128mb ram stick still suffice? I read something about the saturn core running better with 2 sticks.
lament escarp
Does a single 128mb ram stick still suffice? I read something about the saturn c...
Suffice for the n64 core I mean
zenith orchid
sorry, my brain is on overdrive lol
lament escarp
No worries, we're all excited about the n64 core right now 🙂
zenith orchid
I only just gulped down a shot of espresso 🤣
broken creek
@cerulean elk stated in a recent video that 128MB would be enough and cited Paper Mario as a reference (64MB) but isn’t Resident Evil 2 256MB?
zenith orchid
personally I think dual ram is a joke. only a certain jaguar core actually requires it.
any core that really makes use of it is either in development or still in very early stages of development
Unless of course you want to reduce a few nano seconds of audio latency in the PSX core 😄👍
lament escarp
Then I'll wait with a potential upgrade until the n64 and saturn core are finished and see if the saturn core still recommends it. 🙂
blissful plaza
Paper Mario is 40MB (I've not commented the small typo on the video, as it was explaining the idea of having only a single RAM that should do the trick normally) and RE2 is 64MB (as long as Conker).
zenith orchid
Then I'll wait with a potential upgrade until the n64 and saturn core are finish...
Yeah I'm waiting until I see a real benefit for the upgrade. If I were really eager to play Tempest on an experimental Jaguar core, maybe I would go for it
cerulean elk
Paper Mario is 40MB (I've not commented the small typo on the video, as it was e...
SOME paper Mario’s are 40. Some are 64. Region diff
I didn’t have a RE 2 cart to showcase
Apparently the PAL Paper Mario is 64MB. Now I haven’t taken apart a cart to confirm because…I don’t have one lol
mellow path
You need a second 8MB stick if you want to play expansion games 
blissful plaza
PAL Paper Mario is a strange case as I've written a note some years ago about the dump being incorrect and overdumped.
Confirmed by another preservationist and the dump was corrected.
The header is incorrect and physically the chip is only 48MB.
Older dumps mirrored and added some data at the end of the ROM file.
Even Nintendo used a 48MB file on their Virtual Console back then.
cerulean elk
I may buy an RE 2 cart if I need another illustrative example but also I don’t really need another copy of RE 2. I’ve got like five
lament escarp
I may buy an RE 2 cart if I need another illustrative example but also I don’t r...
There's never enough RE2. 😋
cerulean elk
Lol we shall see
cerulean elk
<@484201598218928128> stated in a recent video that 128MB would be enough and ci...
RE 2 is 64MB OR 512Mbit
Difference in bit vs byte. MiSTer has 128MB or BYTE RAM sticks. Biggest N64 game is 512Mb or “megabit”. Largest Neo Geo Game is 7xx megabit. If that makes sense 🙂
blissful plaza
Let's scrap everything and count with Mio/MiB now. 😂
cerulean elk
Let's scrap everything and count with Mio/MiB now. 😂
The biggest N64 game is 42069 megakajiggers
blissful plaza
So much kaijuu.
lament escarp
N64 games can't be that big. There was a NES game that could hold godzilla AND mothra, that must be huge!
marble cargo
Oh hey I had a question on a vid <@640641777610522675> will there be a toggle to...
It's worth noting that Space Station Silicon Valley does have a patch that fixes the RAM expansion pak bug.
languid dune
There's never enough RE2. 😋
Truer words were never spoken.
marble cargo
It also fixes the bug where one of the collectibles lacks any hitbox.
cerulean elk
It also fixes the bug where one of the collectibles lacks any hitbox.
Oh did they finally fix that?
I remember that back in the day
silent marten
That spreadsheet is not public, needs access permissions
Needs access permissions to view it or just edit it?
languid dune
I honestly love the N64 version of RE2, because it has the option for non tank controls. It breaks the game, but it feels so much better to play.
cerulean elk
I honestly love the N64 version of RE2, because it has the option for non tank c...
All I want is RE 0 N64 Vers to leak one day
That and the alt versions of RE 4
lament escarp
I don't mind tank controls in resident evil games. The tank controls in tomb raider though... I always run into walls.
languid dune
That would be awesome. Same with the N64 version of Eternal Darkness.
silent marten
Things will leak eventually, they always do
cerulean elk
Things will leak eventually, they always do
Like old peoples bladders
languid dune
I feel like I'm already old people...
silent marten
I feel like I'm already old people...
Same as that buddy
languid dune
👴
cerulean elk
I feel like I'm already old people...
Haha I feel old this week. Fucking sinus infection
languid dune
Hope you feel better soon!
cerulean elk
Feeling a bit better today. Yesterday was that “head in a Vice grip” vibe all day. I watched three John Wick movies in a row
lament escarp
I always watch showa era godzilla movies when I'm sick. Highly recommended.
languid dune
I binge watched Secret Invasion this week.
cerulean elk
That and some Ducktales lol. Random zag
solid crest
Needs access permissions to view it or just edit it?
To view it
silent marten
Ducktales woo hoo
silent marten
To view it
Damn, I am not at home this week let me see if I can change that on my phone
@solid crest can you try again?
Should be anyone with the link can now view it
solid crest
It works now
silent marten
I might make editing it public later but for now you will need to request access to edit
silent marten
It works now
Thank you
worn delta
Thank you
If you check the sheet I posted earlier, it covers everything in the HTGDB that a group of us decided was the best to work from, so everyone is on the same page. Be great if you are wanting to test when we have a new build you work on that one with the rest of us 🙂
silent marten
If you check the sheet I posted earlier, it covers everything in the HTGDB that ...
Ohhhh OK, I can do that then 🙂
worn delta
Ace! Just request access to edit and I will give you rights
silent marten
Although it will be next week when I get home
silent marten
Ace! Just request access to edit and I will give you rights
Requested access
worn delta
Done
worn delta
I am trying to remember, were there any N64 ROMs in the various gigaleaks?
blissful plaza
Some tech demos at least.
brisk edge
some source code, some resources for the most part
worn delta
Ah yeah, there were some things that looked like animations, I remember now
Are those all in the HTGDB Everdrive pack?
brisk edge
we got some unreleased stuff for gb/gbc because the lotcheck collection leaked, so any rom that was submitted and done was held on to
worn delta
I will make a mental note to check what was all in the leaks for N64 when I get some time next week, am sure I have them all somewhere
wanton sun
ram discussion: we will need 1 mbyte of SDRAM for the 9th bit of the RDRAM and another mbyte(less in reality) for flash/sram/eeprom. the rest can be used for the game rom, so 16 mbyte roms for 32mbyte RAM modules and all games fit on 128Mbyte module. Second sdram would be nice, so ROM and 9th RDRAM bit could be used in parallel (eg. rendering while ROM data is fetched), but given how slow the ROM access is (<10mbyte/s) it's not really an issue to share it and i have no motivation in maintaining 2 designs
native mesa
Many would see that as wonderful news
wanton sun
i thought about dropping 32mbyte module support altogether, as it would be nicer to handle, but well, invest 1 hour more and have those old devices still working with some games is worth it
native mesa
As an analog IO board man I am excited. I think more than one ram module is also not possible for jammix and ironclad folks
wanton sun
new build with RSP->RDP interface running. RDP will likely crash fast in most cases (error code 0x400 / error bit 10), so don't expect too much. 70% of the RDP commands are still missing. I don't test any games at this state
cerulean elk
new build with RSP->RDP interface running. RDP will likely crash fast in most ca...
Fancy!
orchid nimbus
I tried Mario64 - Peach still baked him a cake and he's eating it right now and he doesn't have time to play
cerulean elk
I tried Mario64 - Peach still baked him a cake and he's eating it right now and ...
Translation: not working? Lol
orchid nimbus
?
you making fun of my grammar click eager boy?
😛
it's time to rejoyce and have good time
languid dune
Bomberman Hero still doesn't work. Sorry @cerulean elk
wanton sun
sorry, really don't expect anything from that version
unless you like to run testroms 🙂
orchid nimbus
some demos now play music more 🙂
wanton sun
really? which?
orchid nimbus
Hard pom
Heavy 64
can't remember if I heard these tunes before
but they don't sound familiar
cerulean elk
Bomberman Hero still doesn't work. Sorry <@484201598218928128>
Heart broken. Gonna go cry now
orchid nimbus
cry good hard - feel happier after
whole zinc
personally I think dual ram is a joke. only a certain jaguar core actually requi...
The new narc arcade core may need dual ram to work according to the dev.
oblique remnant
the "2 Blokes and an Armchair by Tesko" Demo has stuttering sound
oblique remnant
time for trumpton 🙂
cerulean elk
I’m waiting for Superman 64. The preeminent game on the system
orchid nimbus
ha - the core plays the music fine - I made a recording and it sounds horrible
native mesa
Who deleted Aubrey Plaza
languid dune
Careful, the West Sixty Four legion will come for you!
wanton sun
did not test any of the demos in the last weeks, but it seems RSP did help with some of them. Several have at least audio
orchid nimbus
I admit - I didn't test a lot with the previous core
wanton sun
is this from kroms repo?
quick arch
yes
wanton sun
wow, the size...116mbyte?
orchid nimbus
blissful plaza
We have sound on the Dragon's Lair demos, DEVO video and the Bad Apple demos since days too.
quick arch
#1096015979055697940 message
quick arch
wow, the size...116mbyte?
yes
wanton sun
ok, thanks
blissful plaza
I8LZRLEVideo
I4LZRLEVideo
YUV16LZDIFFRLEVideo
YUV8LZDIFFRLEVideo
ResidentEvil2
Pixar-Geri'sGame
MenWithoutHats-SafetyDance
Devo-TimeOutForFun
All have sound since about one week.
vagrant ivy
Quest 6 4 works perfectly !
blissful plaza
No changes booting games for the moment.
Namco Museum doing the same as always, same for Rayman 2 and Donald.
I've tried just moments ago : Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, all 3 main Turok, Goldeneye, Wave Race, Yoshi's Story, WWC No Mercy, "Brian 64", StarFox 64, Mystical Ninja, Killer Instinct Gold, Mischief Makers, Wonder Project J2...
And i've tried the "Styx" demo too, and we now have just a black screen with the E400 code instead of scrambled graphics (EDIT : on that last demo).
languid dune
That's dedication! 
ocean lily
I half thought tetrisphere would play some music since it starts up before displaying anything, but no :c
manic basin
the video BigBuckBunny.N64 plays sound also
My friend Nate was the rigger and animator on that.
I love seeing it still being used.
quick arch
Big Buck Bunny is used a lot for VLC for example
manic basin
Yeah, for sure.
It's used to bench video playback on a lot of stuff. So cool that he got to work on it.
I miss him. He went back to Japan for a bit and then is going to Amsterdam again for a while. He'll eventually drift back to Seattle though. He always does.
quick arch
Quest 6 4 works perfectly !
Confirmed 🙂
vagrant ivy
Custom Error message for the greatest game
Robert disabled the game because its too awesome for mortals
ocean lily
should be Q064
quick arch
The Krom demo RDPModelInput.N64 starts to show things and when we move register it raise E400.
wanton sun
yes, this one does allow to test various blend modes and other things. It will not work without texturing unfortunatly
modern sleet
And i've tried the "Styx" demo too, and we now have just a black screen with the...
E002 on most of those retail games i've tested
worn delta
So the ones that loaded a bit last time progress any further?
modern sleet
Rayman 2 is the same, Dr Mario as well, but I dont think its going to progress more until Robert has a bit more time
vagrant ivy
So the ones that loaded a bit last time progress any further?
#1096015979055697940 message
daring meteor
Wait, games raise E002, not E400? Any particular reason for that?
wanton sun
that bit triggers on unimplemented CPu instructions. It seems to happen on way too many games to be TLB instructions, which should be the only ones missing, so maybe something else is going on. I will check after some RDP work
daring meteor
Ah, alright
ocean lily
wasn't there a list of error codes somewhere?
seen E040 a couple times; not sure what it is
hearty python
I would go for a single ram core like Neo Geo. There can be make a list wich games are running with 32 Meg. Believe that 70-90% of mister user has 128MB meantime. 😁
wanton sun
the numbers are in hex, so you can use your windows calculator
40 hex = bit 6 set = CPU exception
i'm sorry the new error system is more cryptic than the one in PSX, but it has the advantage of being able to show multiple errors and not just hold the first
this way i can even show simple warnings and it will not make the core blind for real issues
modern sleet
oh hex 🙂
hearty python
The error system should assist and help you, so it is not needed to understand it all. 😂
modern sleet
This is better:
wanton sun
yes 🙂
i always forget to update the readme when new bits are added...will do it tomorrow
native mesa
Do Nintendo Ninjas hang out here? Should we be concerned for Robert?
worn delta
Nintendo has nothing on Robert, no law against developing your own N64 emulator as long as you aren't using any stolen/leaked documents, which he is clear to show he is not through documenting his development process. 🙂
native mesa
I didn't know Ninjas cared about the law
covert bough
And it's all open source
native mesa
They killed this kid.
devout leaf
They killed this kid.
And it’s The Sun and Daily Mail so you know they did extensive research and verification.
hearty python
Yes, Bild spoke first with the dead 😂
broken creek
RE 2 is 64MB OR 512Mbit
Damn they fit that game in 64MB? I remember seeing, I think, an MVG video talking about how it’s a technical marvel but I thought he said it was 256MB. My mistake! Thanks for checking 👍
cerulean elk
Damn they fit that game in 64MB? I remember seeing, I think, an MVG video talkin...
No worries. And yes it has some impressive compression to get the fmvs in
brisk edge
it also features a partial randomizer which is pretty neat
chilly ember
It even has an analog mode if you hate tank controls
devout leaf
Damn they fit that game in 64MB? I remember seeing, I think, an MVG video talkin...
RE2 could actually be on one PS1 disc. There was an audio issue that they miscalculated and just said whatever two discs. Fun fact.
zinc dew
Yeah the audio went over disc space budget
languid dune
Angel Studios were wizards.
zinc dew
Yeah the compression was insanely impressive. Here’s a presentation on how it was done: https://ultra64.ca/files/other/Game-Developer-Magazine/GDM_September_2000_Achieving_Full-Motion_Video_on_the_Nintnedo_64.pdf
ocean lily
Damn they fit that game in 64MB? I remember seeing, I think, an MVG video talkin...
MVG always has something so blatantly wrong in all his videos that at this point I'm not sure if he's an idiot or if he does it intentionally to keep other people from stealing his work
cold pollen
really?
orchid nimbus
MVG always has something so blatantly wrong in all his videos that at this point...
Name a few items please
Or 1
orchid nimbus
Talk is easy - I have seen quite a few of his videos and his videos are mostly factual correct - not enough divergence to come to the conclusion that he’s an idiot
Sometimes he’s too focused on the field he grew up with and his current field of expertise - he tends to ignore things outside this field of interest
Which certainly is normal given that you can’t be an expert on everything
elfin depot
I like most his stuff. He was pushing limited run hard when he was doing work for them but guys gotta get paid. He was big in the Xbox modding scene back in the day.
silver galleon
Got hours of enjoyment out of all his emulator ports on the original xbox
And the other stuff he ported
lilac scroll
It blows my mind how fast you work, Robert. I remember being in college dorms when UltraHLE hit and people going crazy, but it felt like for many years after that and compared to most other consoles of its or preceding generations, N64 emulation was so much harder to figure out. The pace of progress is crazy.
neon heron
He also might have said megabit too (although 256Mb would be even more impressive)
orchid nimbus
It blows my mind how fast you work, Robert. I remember being in college dorms wh...
make sure to have a config file for every rom 😄
mellow raft
Don't worry everyone. I'm spreading the Qwestsixtyfourness with my Cemu moderation powers
pearl tusk
final walrus
That’s on Tink5xPro right
cerulean elk
I like most his stuff. He was pushing limited run hard when he was doing work fo...
He’s pretty good. I watch his stuff now and then
wanton sun
It blows my mind how fast you work, Robert. I remember being in college dorms wh...
i can only do all that because research was already done for many parts by endless developers before me. If that was not the case, it would takes so much longer
hearty python
Yes, it’s allways a help when knowledge is shared and archived in any form
wanton sun
commited the first change for texture loading. It works in simulation, but as the data is not used yet, quartus just optimized it away. Also there are some bugs introduced i have seen in NICCC. Don't bother trying it even. I just wanted the status to be saved after so many changes, that 's why i uploaded it
bronze tree
Great news either way 🙂
dreamy kayak
topaz otter
It blows my mind how fast you work, Robert. I remember being in college dorms wh...
I remember the glide plugins to get it to work, the hacky nature of it, and being able to play ocarina of time which was still being commercially sold on a piece of software on my pc. Now it didn't run great, but the fact that it ran at all is mind blowing.
lilac scroll
I remember the glide plugins to get it to work, the hacky nature of it, and bein...
IIRC it was years until PJ64, which was the next step forward, but even then nothing ever wowed like ultraHLE 1.0. And yeah, dealing with plugins… rice, glide… such a headache
topaz otter
And Nintendo was absolutely livid, so much so that epsilon and realityman got chased off the internet.
sullen harbor
I still hate plugin shit. But at least they're starting to get vulkan now
Its weird I remember trying ultrahle back as a kid and no n64 emulator ever really worked on any hardware I had up until now
cold pollen
I don't know if any modern N64 emulator is plugin based any more?
blissful plaza
RMG
cold pollen
I keep hearing RMG what is RMG lol
weird
I wonder why they're going with plugins
blissful plaza
Having multiple RSP (HLE & interpreter) and video plugins (angrylion, parallel & GlideN64).
raw oriole
The plugins already exist, so for a launcher to take them under its wing is only sensible
languid dune
commited the first change for texture loading. It works in simulation, but as th...
Any progress is good progress!
topaz otter
I wonder why they're going with plugins
because they work
devout leaf
And it’s easier
wanton sun
diffrent people could work on different parts
cold pollen
What? Plug-ins are not easier lol
I thought that was the point of that one plug in they all use now, what was it called
It was supposed to unify them
raw oriole
Heh. Obligatory XKCD.
native mesa
Man's a machine
lilac scroll
then there was also this bad boy
I have such fond memories of those very early days of emulation, visiting sites like zophars and retrogaming(?), specifically those few years where nes and snes emulation seemed to take major leaps forward every so often. Nesticle, pasofami, snes96/97, esnes, nlksnes, Zsnes, etc. Obviously it’s so much more enjoyable to just load and play with an FPGA core on mister or pocket and not have to tinker with settings or hacks, but I loved the scene back in those days.
zinc dew
Just wanted to say I appreciate y’all for keeping the gifs light on the on-topic channels. You’re awesome! 🍻
thorn flax
I am, and modest too
zinc dew
lol it backfired on me 
native mesa
Gifs are always on topic
orchid nimbus
look what I got to work on the 'core' 😄
already installed in prep to test the core to be honest
I hope mupen64plus is a good choice
pure ocean
Gifs are always on topic
languid dune
lol it backfired on me <:cringe:1118667004996493385>
I've got a whole batch of animated PNGs ready to get around the GIF rule. Loop hole hype! 
||Don't worry, I'm kidding. ......or AM I!?||
orchid nimbus
weary palm
My favorite chihuahua
cerulean elk
I've got a whole batch of animated PNGs ready to get around the GIF rule. Loop h...
Gifs not allowed now or something? Lol
Or on Saturn? I must have missed something lol 🤷🏻♂️
stoic parcel
sticks head in
wall of gifs
😮
languid dune
Gifs not allowed now or something? Lol
At least not in the main on-topic threads. They can be used in General, Memes, and Off Topic.
cerulean elk
At least not in the main on-topic threads. They can be used in General, Memes, a...
Lol nothing makes sense any more
languid dune
It was a dark day indeed.
pearl tusk
That’s on Tink5xPro right
Yes
weary palm
stoic parcel
And no one learned anything!
YAY! :D
hearty python
Some people enjoyed the freedom so much, that there is no space anymore for the freedom. It’s not really funny to view 50 time the same gif or picture. It’s like a kindergarten in some threats. It’s a shame… just my 2 cents as a personal meaning as a normal user.
quaint rune
lo siento
hearty python
Accepted
cerulean elk
Some people enjoyed the freedom so much, that there is no space anymore for the ...
So…how bout that N64 core? Lol
hearty python
I am exited to test the next version with some rendering build in. I personally had never an n64.
raw oriole
There are some great games. Not many, it's true, but still - can't miss a whole Nintendo console, so much history in it.
Being in the transition to 3D a lot of games have aged terribly badly, from being early design experiments. And they're very hard to play with hands used to dual-stick controllers.
devout leaf
What? Plug-ins are not easier lol
How is making an emulator that uses plug ins made by other people not easier?
devout leaf
Oh who cares about the end user? lol
cold pollen
Every game a different plug in, forget that lol
cold pollen
Oh who cares about the end user? lol
Well he's me, so I do
raw oriole
If your front end comes with profiles for them then no-one needs to know.
I just use the real thing, tbf. I've not used an N64 emulator since UltraHLE. Well, outside another Nintendo console anyway. I replayed Ocarina and MM on 3DS.
hearty python
For me, however, it is amazing how quickly progress is made, especially because an n64 core was considered impossible for a long time.
raw oriole
And I so love watching Robert work 🙂 Always been a huge fan of dev diaries.
not in a creepy way
cold pollen
If your front end comes with profiles for them then no-one needs to know.
Still such a clunky method lol
raw oriole
Meh. The alternative is either a perfect emulator which is a biiiiiig job, or just compile all the plugins into a monolithic exe and call it a day 😄
raw oriole
Penguins do love melons
hearty python
Yes, I enjoy also roberts explanations of things.
I Wonder how many games was released for so low console sales
quaint rune
you know whats crazy? Croc for ps1 had made more money than banjo kazooie, but its a worse platformer. at least banjo kazooie is fun and funny ☝️ 😮 #themoreyouknow
raw oriole
I've never undestood the juggernaut that the PS1 was, but it definitely was!
For the N64 - 388 games over six years. Not many at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_64_games
maiden wyvern
banjo kazooie doesn't even have any gobbos
hearty python
That many games for such low sale basis. Don’t forget that the competition’s was on cd drives. That make conversations hard and expensive. Wii U have only 170 games although it was cd based and stronger as ps3 and x360.
hearty oar
I remember PS1 games being quite a bit cheaper, so I imagine that helped
hearty python
That time I bought my ps1, Nintendo was a child thing in my eyes.
quaint rune
is it safe to say that the n64 was the one time during the console wars where they had a grip on sony in terms of raw processing power
hearty python
My first Nintendo was the Wii, as my daughter was 5 or 6 years old.
languid dune
Eh the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2 as well.
quaint rune
but where was that really shown in terms of games, besides resident evil 4.
ocean lily
GameCube was arguably on par with the xbox
languid dune
A lot of GCN games looked miles better than PS2 stuff.
Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, RE4, etc.
Plus a ton of GCN games supported 480p. But only a handful of PS2 games did.
hearty python
Iirc Xbox was fastest.
languid dune
Xbox was definitely the strongest, but not by much compared to GCN.
ocean lily
in terms of clock speed, but the ppc cpu of the gcn was much more efficient
hearty oar
Xbox had fully programmable shaders, it was easily the most forward looking console of that generation
The fact that Doom 3 could run on it was super impressive, even if the performance was not quite there
cerulean elk
Now there are 2 playable demos : Pong (oman) Melon Demo (PD)
@manic basin If you feel so inclined lol
ocean lily
there's a reason ps3 and xbone went with ppc cpus
quaint rune
doom 3, thats a impressive looking game even now
hearty python
Xbox was a Monster also in space consuming
quaint rune
that reminds me, the ps3 cell! but its heading too off topic for this channel specificly so im gonna pose what im gonna say in off topic in relation to that
ocean lily
ah, back when sony thought the cell was so powerful they wouldn't even need a gpu
hearty python
What I love now on Nintendo consoles is the small power consumption. No real head and no loud noises
brisk drum
I am unsettled by all the gifs
orchid nimbus
quaint rune
that game is alot longer than it seems. or maybe its because i died so much trying to 100% it
orchid nimbus
I am unsettled by all the gifs
There I gave you something to be unsettled about
brisk drum
Please people stawwwwp!
You are compromising the legitimacy of our discord with your visual pollution
zinc dew
hahaha, the goal is just to minimize gifs not disallow them. We’re just trying to be friendly to new users
brisk drum
What will the people say!!
topaz otter
woop woop its the sound of the fun police
hearty python
there's a reason ps3 and xbone went with ppc cpus
Dito Nintendo. GC, Wii, Wii U is also only a evolution on the chips. Change came with Switch. Interesting what’s happening if Wii U was a success
stoic parcel
......
brisk drum
Woop woop thats the sound of the beast
zinc dew
woop woop its the sound of the fun police
lol I know, I’m sorry but thanks for listening
zinc dew
lol
orchid nimbus
Who did that!
brisk drum
There will be consequences!
orchid nimbus
Hahaha
topaz otter
I have such fond memories of those very early days of emulation, visiting sites ...
nesticle was the first time I actually beat megaman 2, thanks to save states
then I got good enough I could beat it on the real machine
brisk drum
Why!!!
quaint rune
you had to use save states to beat mega man 2.......bro...do you even metal blade?
topaz otter
deft tree
yeah metal man + the droprate in that game
hard not to wind up getting 3 1ups every spawn
topaz otter
I mean I beat all the robot masters on the real console, but the wily castle stages are really hard
I did eventually beat all the megaman games all the way through on the gamecube collection though
despite the stupid A and B button being switched
zinc dew
I was going to ask about that
quaint rune
shame there was no mega man 64.....and NO not counting legends
brisk drum
Well that’s about to change
zinc dew
But it says “Mega Man 64”
quaint rune
thats how they get you
topaz otter
after fifteen years of playing megaman with a being jump and b being fire
brisk drum
I’m so excited for this core i might need adult diapers
topaz otter
then these jokers switch it
zinc dew
@orchid nimbus please
topaz otter
with no option to switch it back
raw oriole
@orchid nimbus Timeout for you.
quaint rune
there was no control option to switch in the collection?
topaz otter
this discords first ban
topaz otter
there was no control option to switch in the collection?
no, there wasn't
makes me mad because otherwise it was a great collection
but after beating megaman 1-6 I can play it either way
my brain has been rewired
brisk drum
this discords first ban<:banned:1028401753990901780>
And it wasn’t me
brisk drum
awww muhhh gawwwd stawwwp
raw oriole
That's two.
The point is that we'd like you all to not repeatedly disrupt actual conversation with stupid gifs.
I say "all", but you know who you are.
brisk drum
It’s me isn’t it
zinc dew
https://tenor.com/view/were-not-there-yet-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-not-there...
gifs are hilarious and they’re fun, but for on-topic channels we just want to minimize them. Lots of new users and lots of discussions happening. That’s all. Thank you for understanding.
languid dune
despite the stupid A and B button being switched
This was the ultimate sin. I actually returned the game and exchanged it for the PS2 version at the time. I was surprised they let me do that.
hearty python
The good behavior lasted a really long time
zinc dew
Im kidding Jamie
If Jaime banned me that means I deserved it. He’s a good person.
hearty oar
I just want you all to know that I’ve been reading gif with a soft g this entire time, the way it was intended
quaint rune
jif
brisk drum
Like the peanut butter ?
quaint rune
thats how i say it too
zinc dew
I ain’t trying to get banned
You won’t! Just minimize gifs on the on-topic channel. Always feel free to reach out to me or anyone other mod if you have questions. Anyways we should move on, thank you again.
languid dune
If Jaime banned me that means I deserved it. He’s a good person.
Preemptively admitting to your future 
!
quaint rune
😼 when the mister documentary is made, the psx and n64 are gonna be huge highlights
stoic parcel
I have AA disable patched a set of 2D games for N64, most of them look OK that way, sometimes with a bit of weirdness on certain graphical assets. I still need to find the patches to make the 2D games using the analog stick use the dpad instead that someone mentioned before.
quaint rune
you dont like a little bit of blur ?
stoic parcel
Not especially.
hearty python
😼 when the mister documentary is made, the psx and n64 are gonna be huge highli...
Don’t forget the Saturn
quaint rune
oh yeah
languid dune
The Saturn core has been super fun to follow over the last year.
languid dune
That is true.
latent dagger
wow. what have you guys done?
languid dune
The games that took really good advantage of the hardware looked awesome at the time.
brisk drum
😼 when the mister documentary is made, the psx and n64 are gonna be huge highli...
Can’t wait to be interviewed for the doc
latent dagger
You abused meming so hard that I literally cannot spell the name of that game without spaces because it's blocked
brisk drum
Worth
quaint rune
Can’t wait to be interviewed for the doc
you made a core or did something on mister?
languid dune
you made a core or did something on mister?
He made a taco at least.
raw oriole
latent dagger
I was just gonna say (before I just now discorvered this block) is that the Q game, and the ninja game I remember the first time I tried playing them without a memory expansion pak. it was a nightmare
quaint rune
goemon?
brisk drum
you made a core or did something on mister?
No I been present on the scene since the inception of psx Saturn and n64 cores
Helped test the psx core before it even had sound
raw oriole
Taco has been around
brisk drum
I will talk about the meme wars of 2023
raw oriole
#spicy-off-topic 👇
raw oriole
I was just gonna say (before I just now discorvered this block) is that the Q ga...
I think I might have to set up an XP machine to use my N64-usb adapter cable that doesn't have a driver for later OSes, to get my old game saves off those dinky memory cards. Not looking forward to that.
hearty python
Does exits standalone adapters for the expansion?
For ps3 there was a external reader for ps1 and ps2 memory cards
topaz otter
I think I might have to set up an XP machine to use my N64-usb adapter cable tha...
I've got the datel dexdrive, only works on 98/xp and it has to have a serial port
but its the easiest way to dump turok 2's saves since it takes up an entire memory card
raw oriole
I was hoping not to spend money, but I'll spend money to avoid installing an XP
Damn thing doesn't work in VM, I've tried it
The N64-USB lead I mean
topaz otter
how does this thing connect to the pc
it it usb?
oh
the problem I have had with those old drivers is that xp doesn't care if a driver is signed
but windows 7 and up does
and a lot of these cheap peripherals, especially ones made in china ship with unsigned drivers and in modern windows you have to sign into test mode or download DSEO and sign the drivers yourself
its a pain in the ass
the xbox to usb adapter I have is like that
hearty python
You can say windows to use unsigned drivers. There is a boot option for that
topaz otter
it doesn't work
in order for the drivers for this gizmo i have to work at all, you have to be in unsigned test mode AND sign the drivers with a certficate yourself
and the boot option only stays for one reboot
so you have to enable unsigned test mode at the command line
all because microsoft wants 10 grand to sign a driver
it sucks
hearty python
Ok, thats mad
zinc dew
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon is an awesome game @latent dagger
hearty python
Wondering that exists not a easy box for reading the packs.
zinc dew
That’s for loading cheats, right?
topaz otter
nah its for reading n64 memory cards to the pc
hearty python
How will the core manage that? Rumble or mencard, both was not offered simultaneously from Nintendo
topaz otter
I can also do it with the gameshark with the parallel port cable and dump the saves to the pc with gameshark software
but thats even more work
for a datel product it works surprisingly well
the problem is that once you get the saves on pc you can't just dump them into an emulator
cerulean elk
there's a reason ps3 and xbone went with ppc cpus
That’s because the Xbox 360 is really the 3DO 4
I’ll tell that story in a vid one day
topaz otter
I believe it saved them as .n64
ocean lily
funny way to spell Dreamcast 2
deft tree
How will the core manage that? Rumble or mencard, both was not offered simultane...
Presumably just a toggle in menu similar to mounting memory cards in Psx core
topaz otter
so the .n64 has to be converted to a .srm
cerulean elk
The team at 3DO that developed the chipset architecture went to Samsung, which then sold to MS. 3DO team pitched a design for OG Xbox but lost to the Direct X team. The 3DO team then finally realized their dreams of releasing a PowerPC based console with a unified memory architecture…with the 360
topaz otter
and all the old memory card saves on gamefaqs were done with the dexdrive and are in .N64 format
latent dagger
I think I might have to set up an XP machine to use my N64-usb adapter cable tha...
Just do an XP VM with USB device passthrough. Might be easier
topaz otter
does that thing work?
what format does it save in
oh it says sony on it lol
sony reads nintendo 64 save files now
ocean lily
lol
raw oriole
Just do an XP VM with USB device passthrough. Might be easier
I did try that maybe a decade ago and it didn't work then. VMs are better now though, you're right I should do it again
Ughhhh I'll have to find the thing now too...
latent dagger
I did try that maybe a decade ago and it didn't work then. VMs are better now th...
I recommend VMWare Workstation Player
raw oriole
Yep, that's what I tend to
I'll try Parallels first since I'm 98% Mac hosted these days 😄 Then break out the winbox
ocean lily
It's crazy to me that there's memory card managers for ps1 memory cards using that adapter, but the tools only let you dump, completely rewrite, or make a free mcboot memory card on ps2 cards
topaz otter
I have a real xp machine with the gameshark crap already installed on it
latent dagger
oh. you have MacOS
topaz otter
I was dumping some carts for the preservation discord with the gameshark
latent dagger
you might be better of dual booting then lol
raw oriole
I have a games winbox too, just doesn't have any VMware on it (yet)
hearty python
VMware Fusion is same for mac
topaz otter
does hyperv allow you to pass through a usb port?
hearty python
No usb
raw oriole
oh. you have MacOS
I have at least one of each domestic OS 😄
hearty python
No, try pro download and you get both
raw oriole
They threatened to discontinue Player but they didn't
topaz otter
interesting
because too many community colleges like mine are still teaching with it
raw oriole
Can always hop over to one of the free VM hosts
raw oriole
Adaptoid! That's the thing I have.
latent dagger
hearty python
Player is only one vm
raw oriole
Oh, Quest 64 you say? Or rather... you don't
latent dagger
raw oriole
Muahahhahah! /kitrinx laugh
latent dagger
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
raw oriole
I've never even played it. I should do.
topaz otter
i don't really play with VMs anymore, i have so much real vintage hardware that its easier to just build something
hearty python
Can always hop over to one of the free VM hosts
Fusion for mac is cheap now cause of apple silicon
topaz otter
i got a super socket seven board with an actual AGP port
raw oriole
I'm very sorry
topaz otter
which is rare and expensive
it runs a pentium 1 so it takes care of all my windows 95 needs
hearty python
I do more VMware since years. No worries about hardware anymore.
raw oriole
Oh lord.``` To install this driver:
a) Insert a blank formatted floppy in the A: drive. ```
i had a bunch of 486 boards and I threw them all away
latent dagger
It's like, they came out with 95, it was pretty bad, then they came out with 98 and it was waaay worse, then 98 SE which was actually decent, then ME which was like, 50 steps backwards, then 2000 which was basically 98 SE with some new fonts, then FINALLY.... XP
topaz otter
the thing that makes xp king is the usb support
latent dagger
98 SE had USB support
topaz otter
being able to plug standard HID devices in and it just works
yeah but 98 SE usb support sucks
latent dagger
lol
topaz otter
even with the unnoficial usb patch
it still forgets my keyboard and mouse dongle half the time
and I have to plug in a PS\2 one to fix it
latent dagger
The NT kernal was a godsend
I'm glad they ditched DOS completely sooner than later
topaz otter
DOS couldn't multitask
hearty python
With w95 came the real success
topaz otter
microsoft realized they had to make a multitasking OS or else someone else was going to do it first
latent dagger
well.... actaully...
topaz otter
mainly OS\2
latent dagger
such operating systems were already kind of out there. Mac had some bit of multitasking I think
hearty python
Amiga was in 84 a multitasking System 😂
elfin relic
I mean you had UNIX out there, being a multitasking, multi-user OS
latent dagger
it's kind of crazy to think that we've been on the NT kernal now since basically 2001
topaz otter
Amiga was in 84 a multitasking System 😂
Your right, it could work as a doorstop and also act as a stand for the IBM PC
latent dagger
I wonder if they're gonna change that with Windows 12
raw oriole
They'll right-justify the dock taskbar and call it good, I reckon
topaz otter
I'm not even on windoze 11, not looking forward to 12 either
topaz otter
I have enough problems running xp era software on windows 10
used to work fine on windows 7
hearty python
But most early multitasking systems has no real memory protection. The MMU came later as a chip.
topaz otter
But most early multitasking systems has no real memory protection. The MMU came ...
true, also windows 2000 fixed that by running each application in its own protected memory space
latent dagger
if you are adamant about running XP software without any issues, then I recommend just building an XP machine
raw oriole
Without any more issues than any random XP machine, you mean 🙂
latent dagger
Get yourself a Core 2 Duo, and 3GB of RAM (or a bit more if you intend to run 64bit XP)
raw oriole
Ooh I can use my old 2007 MacBook! Ideal for the cognitive dissonance
Core 2, 8gig
And importantly USB-A
latent dagger
ah well, I don't know if you can use all 8GB even with 64bit XP
raw oriole
No, probably not 🙂 I can drop it to a single 4gig SODIMM if needed
Might even have the original 2gigs around somewhere
latent dagger
oh wow, it apparently could go all the way up to 128GB???
supposedly 32bit is limited to 4GB but I remember it being 3
raw oriole
XP/64 could barely boot safely, let alone use 128gig ram
Poor little stub end of technology that it was
zinc dew
N64 + Windows is the greatest combination, what is this anti-windows heresy
Look a that beauty
hearty python
I do all Systems as vm‘s. As Long as you no need fast 3d all is fine.
raw oriole
AWEsome
latent dagger
I mean, bruh, a core 2 duo, 4GB of RAM, and an old Nvidia card. sick little machine for all your old game and software needs
raw oriole
Gosh, I hope I can actually find the Adaptoid cable after triggering all this ancient-Windows chat...
It's probably in the N64 bits box. But that's under the bed where mrs is sleeping just now.
latent dagger
is that XP with the less shiny Windows theme?
hearty python
supposedly 32bit is limited to 4GB but I remember it being 3
Depends on the gpu. 4GB can be used. Pae do more than 4GB on 32Bit 😁
zinc dew
is that XP with the less shiny Windows theme?
Not sure, doesn’t look like 95, too high res
latent dagger
Not sure, doesn’t look like 95, too high res
yeh, it's either 2000, or XP with the classic theme
I'm thinking XP though cuz the folder icons are bit more rounded
topaz otter
mario if he real
yeah seriously don't even bother putting more than 3GB in XP
and the issue with XP64 is that it has problems running 32 bit apps
raw oriole
Only confuses the poor thing. It can't count that high.
topaz otter
which what xp program is going to need more than that anyway
raw oriole
Certainly not this 158kB of Adaptoid driver 🙂
topaz otter
a decent dual core xp machine with 3gb of ram running an ssd and with a geforce 7 series
topaz otter
i believe so
raw oriole
Or 3gig with that registry tweak
Ugh I don't believe I still carry all this stupid knowledge around with me
What a waste of brain cells
latent dagger
I don't think you want to use XP without all the extra community patches that have been made to improve it
topaz otter
if you have a program that needs that much horsepower just move to win7
only reason I keep xp around is because they removed gameport support in 7
and my force feedback pro doesn't work
raw oriole
Ouch. Yeah.
topaz otter
this made me mad when I moved to 7, and microsoft does not know the depths of my rage
raw oriole
Only gameport thing I have is a gravis pad, and they're awful so no loss
hearty python
Gameport was bad. USB Versions work much better.
topaz otter
usb was better but the original force feedback joystick is gameport only, it won't work on usb
hearty oar
Still love my Sidewinder joystick, want to make an adaptor for it at some point
topaz otter
also I had the microsoft game voice
it let you talk to your stupid computer and it would initiate commands in games
it makes you look like a dork, and it uses so much cpu that it causes games to lag
hearty python
Still love my Sidewinder joystick, want to make an adaptor for it at some point
Don’t know if there is a damonbite like adapter exists (based on microcontroller).
topaz otter
if its the regular sidwinder you can just use the gameport to usb thing
but if its the force feedback then that won't work,
raw oriole
Not enough power I bet
topaz otter
because of the bi-direcitonal communication on the gameport
hearty oar
There’s this one by necroware: https://github.com/necroware/gameport-adapter
raw oriole
And the 12V 🙂
hearty oar
Also yeah mine never worked with the USB adaptor on modern systems
raw oriole
Oh hey, they only did 5V. Who knew?
topaz otter
the force feedback pro is special, it needs a bi-direcitonal usb adapter
I think that there may be a project out there for it though
its just easier to use the force feedback 2 on modern systems anyway, its usb
it just doesn't kick as hard
hearty oar
This one works with it, supposedly
hearty python
My sidewinder pro is lost since 20 years. To many moves 😂
raw oriole
They're super simple. Four axes signalling at 0-5V, four buttons at 2.5V, surely there are a bunch of adapters.
topaz otter
Sidewinder FFB Pro 9 4 1 1110 Digital, FFB not yet implemented
hearty oar
Ah, I cannot read
hearty python
Most with more power needed external power
hearty python
Sounds good
hearty oar
Nice
hearty python
They used a more capacity micro controller
orchid nimbus
I am going to play n64 games with my ps4 controller
twin barn
I am going to play n64 games with my ps4 controller
as our lord and savior intended
quaint rune
I gotta go with the ps controller too. Feels moar comfy
hearty oar
Obviously you are all going to use a GameCube controller, after years of becoming accustomed to playing n64 games that way on the Wii virtual console
…no, I guess that’s just me huh
quaint rune
I missed out on Wii virtual console 😂
twin barn
Obviously you are all going to use a GameCube controller, after years of becomin...
i still need to get a bluetooth 5 gamecube controller, do they make one yet? 😏
hearty oar
I wish
twin barn
latent dagger
much wow
latent dagger
i still need to get a bluetooth 5 gamecube controller, do they make one yet? 😏
for use with an actual GC or to use with other devices like a computer?
zinc dew
low tiger
😼 when the mister documentary is made, the psx and n64 are gonna be huge highli...
Hope NoClip makes one!!
floral snow
The team at 3DO that developed the chipset architecture went to Samsung, which t...
They don't deserve the truth
cerulean elk
They don't deserve the truth
The forbidden knowledge of how 3DO shaped gaming for generations to come
It’s like the arc of the covenant for gaming
zinc dew
The forbidden knowledge of how 3DO shaped gaming for generations to come
Yeah, I was fortunate to meet RJ Mical once and got to chat for a long while. Really brilliant dude.
He made the Lynx before the 3DO
And before that the Amiga lol
modern sleet
Opportunity for Rick Astley..
cerulean elk
Yeah, I was fortunate to meet RJ Mical once and got to chat for a long while. Re...
Oh nice. I’ve chatted with a lot of the team that did a lot of the hardware engineering side on 3DO and worked with one ex dev on that M2 demo disc I released. All fun people
I’ve still got some stuff from the old 3DO offices hanging out in my collection
hearty python
3DO was almost to expensive for the few games that exits on the launch.
wanton sun
worked on the Fill Mode today: the RDP can fill triangles and rectangles faster in a special mode. Full 64bit per cycle are available there, so for example a 16bit per color framebuffer can be cleared 4 times as fast as with drawing only 1 pixel per clock cycle. You can see this in the image: the yellow background (320x240) is now filled in 0.3 ms, before it was 1.2 ms. This may not sound much, but as most games need to clear 2 framebuffers (one for color, one for z-buffer) every frame, 2.4ms would have been quite a hit for just preparing every new frame. In a 60fps game this would be about 15% of the total time and this is with the RDRAM being always available (haha)
vapid hawk
this has never occured to me before
framebuffers have to get cleared before they're rewritten?
i always assumed they just write over
wanton sun
typically games do clear it before, yes. PSX even has a special mode for the VRAM that can clear 256 bytes in a single access
vapid hawk
whats the advantage of clearing it?
actually what do they clear it with? all 0s or something?
wanton sun
you can draw on it without taking care what was on it, e.g. when you have transparent objects
vapid hawk
ah, yeah if you didn't clear it you might see some junk from previous frames sometimes?
wanton sun
some games clear with black, but it's also very common to clear with a very visible color like purple, so you see while developing if there is a bug that lets the "backdrop" shine through
vapid hawk
fascinating thanks
hearty oar
framebuffers have to get cleared before they're rewritten?
Even today the answer is “it depends”. Depth textures are important to clear to the far value, because obviously you need to make sure you don’t get false rejection during depth testing. Otherwise on some platforms there is a measurable cost to clearing a texture, and so if we can avoid it we do, for eg. other gbuffer textures we can just write over the existing contents without worrying about it
On tile based hardware (mobile phones, essentially) clearing pretty much is for free, and in fact you’d much rather do that instead of loading at the start of your render pass, as these platforms are usually very memory bandwidth constrained
void hemlock
https://tenor.com/view/raquita-gif-21337304
you stumbled upon a mandela effect with that meme :P
she actually says "you like me. right now, you like me" and never said "you like me, you really like me"
oops, was really scrolled up, but thought it was interesting
grizzled stratus
actually what do they clear it with? all 0s or something?
If you have a skybox it’s common to skip clearing and just draw that as the first operation (and if there’s a z-buffer it would also get set with the largest distance value)
vapid hawk
oh, Kaze talked about this for mario64 actually
drawing the skybox was incredibly slow, he found it faster to actually change it from a basic 2d fill to using polygons
pure ocean
Is it worth to synthesize the new commit or does Quartus still optimize it out?
ocean lily
If you have a skybox it’s common to skip clearing and just draw that as the firs...
this is why so many games get super graphics glitchy if you break out of bounds of the skybox
topaz otter
you stumbled upon a mandela effect with that meme :P
she actually says "you lik...
I think most people remember them making fun of her on SNL
marble cargo
I like it when I go out of bounds and there is that trippy trailing effect.
topaz otter
on SNL I think they went you like me you really like me
also jim carrey did it in the mask
wanton sun
drawing the skybox was incredibly slow, he found it faster to actually change it...
that sounds strange. which video is that?
quick arch
Thank you ! Some RDP test roms (raising E400 error) show black rectangle and Vector Demo also.
weary palm
Can you draw polygons without accessing the Z buffer?
hearty python
Think we have to wait till the core gets the modi that the software emulator have built in.
weary palm
vapid hawk
that sounds strange. which video is that?
timestamped for the skybox bit
saves 1.5ms per-frame 😮
marble cargo
I'm sorry, but I can't take that specific render of Mario seriously anymore.
pure ocean
Is it worth to synthesize the new commit or does Quartus still optimize it out?
I compiled it, but no wireframe graphics, triangles or other changes seen in official games. The known games have the same results.
wanton sun
sorry, no change for that. polygon can still only show solid color like in the NICCC demo
wanton sun
Can you draw polygons without accessing the Z buffer?
yes, you can decide when issueing a polygon draw call to the RDP if it shall have gouraud shading, texturing and/or z-buffering. For starting i will render all stuff without z-buffering. It's not THAT bad
i mean, sure i don't want to play like this, but if the core can render this without crashing i'm more than happy
zinc dew
I mean, that’ll still be impressive as hell once you get there 🤩
mellow raft
vagrant ivy
The Greatest Game runs !
wanton sun
https://youtu.be/qWiA6WDMpdQ?t=185
thanks. it seems he compares the normal skybox (2d image, not fill mode) vs a 3d model that is rendered last instead of first. This can be faster. However, drawing pixels is not the only thing slowing down: when drawing the 3D skybox, you still need to fetch the whole image for doing the z-check to see if the new pixels has to be drawn at all
vapid hawk
ah
he's also leaving like, no backstop at all so if there's ever a gap in world geometry you're going to see garbage through it
still it seemed worth it for the performance improvement he got
orchid nimbus
Eh guys? Did you see this yet?
vagrant ivy
GroundHog day
lament escarp
Eh guys? Did you see this yet?
Now all of this was worth it.
vapid hawk
i saw it but i can't tell if anyones being serious so
vagrant ivy
if it runs or even just shows a Title screen Robert can stop work N64 done
vapid hawk
would that be the first real game booting even a sliver?
vapid hawk
oh right
orchid nimbus
Donald Duck
pliant pollen
vapid hawk
rayman is on n64?
orchid nimbus
I was hoping that someone saw the bad crop on the mister menu 😄
vapid hawk
oh, rayman2 right?
orchid nimbus
rm2
now once Q-64 works people will not believe it that is actually works
my job here is done
lament escarp
You're playing with my heart.
orchid nimbus
I'm sure this will be a reality in the not so far future
I did some clickbait in #general-banter 😉
wanton sun
ok, now i have to deliver: place in your savestates/n64 folder, load the rom and press F1 for happyness
lament escarp
I just hope ocarina of time doesn't freeze when you enter zoras domain aa an adult...
orchid nimbus
😄 @wanton sun 😄
remote hatch
now you will be banned 😛
quaint rune
I just hope ocarina of time doesn't freeze when you enter zoras domain aa an adu...
Is that a thing ?
woeful grove
Tell me, Mr. Vampier, what good is a phone call when you are unable to speak?