#Arcade - IREM
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Haha not really a genre I catch much content in if I am being perfectly honest. But you have my attention 😂
Keep it that way. If Something Awful forums hadn't existed, I'd be a happier person.
But then we wouldnt have Game Center CX subs
I'm not going to share it because it's not a good video. This is a good video. Great, even.
But if you're curious, searching 'pole bang dance' will show what Undercover Cops trained on.
No seagal virus!
🎶The throws land light in the dojo tonight, not a shoed foot to be seen. First I put on my hakama, then the the tami mat I clean. Aikido...AIKIDOOOOO.... 🎵
Mango Tango - Neon Jungle + lyrics on screen
Double Dragon Neon - Official Soundtrack.
Composed by Jake Kaufman.
Yeah. Yeah...
It's a concrete pillar, gosh darnit
Accidentally found the cause of this last night
Yaay
the best kind of accident....
do I have to do something special to get these to work? I dropped in the cores in _ARCADE but when I go to load them they just go right back to the main mister screen
There it is.
I was just typing that out.
perfect, thanks
hm having the same issue
I even tried getting fresh roms off the web
do I have to rename ALPHA-IremM92xxxxxxxx.rbf?
Yes
Remove ALPHA-
Also, how did you download the files? If you didn't use the zip link in this thread, you may have downloaded them as .htm instead of actual raw data. That happens a lot.
Woohoo!
I’m still pissed I never gave In The Hunt a try back in the day because Next Generation (I think) shit all over the PS1 version.
Weirdly enough PSX version is kinda the best
Oh,, okay
Weird way to describe a submarine
Oh, they they are AI scales. I was wondering about that.
Hm.
I've heard John Linneman also say the PS1 version is the worst port out there, even bested by the Saturn version.
I don’t know who that is sorry, but it has the least slowdown of the 3
Digital Foundry
Hadn't heard of them tbh
People are highly divided on them for some reason. I enjoy their videos, don't agree with all of their points, agree with their analysis (it's pretty thorough)....but they tend to split people on sunk cost bias when they say 'Console 1 is slightly more performant than console 2 in this specific scenario.' They basically get death threats. Internet is a messed up place.
Im having some trouble tracking down this person's In the Hunt review, I'd be interested to know their criteria
I dont think they have a review, but that may change with the m92 core out
I think he's mostly said it on Twitter.
The discussion was on twitter, and its search function is impossible so good luck there
And probably in a few of the DF 1-2 hour weekly recaps that are basically podcasts.
Hm. Well, I guess I'll just have to arbitrarily disagree then.
Here's one of the threads. https://twitter.com/retroactiveRuin/status/1566462191804596224?s=20
@dark1x my most prized pcb. Have the Saturn version as well but it becomes nigh unplayable. PS1 is a really amazing port with less slowdown than arcade from what I recall.
But he seems to be saying it's SATURN that slows down. https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1286760639441113092?s=20
I'll just post this bit from HCG101, which is pretty reliable most of the time.
"In the Hunt was ported to the PlayStation and Saturn in 1995, courtesy of THQ (under their Kokopeli brand) and Xing Entertainment respectively. In most cases with shooters the Saturn version would easily topple any other version, however with In the Hunt the PlayStation version is actually superior to the conversion on Sega’s 32-bit machine, featuring little to no slowdown and still keeping the gameplay that made the original so great intact. The Saturn version, meanwhile, has plenty of slowdown in places alongside the addition of an unimpressive, boring opening cutscene. Rumor has it that it will outright refuse to work on certain versions of the console as well. Xing also made a Windows 95 version in 1997 exclusively for Japan, which while still having slowdown (and some annoying sprite flicker) is a major improvement over the Saturn version, even including a rapid-fire option. All three of these ports contain a re-arranged soundtrack as well – the Saturn version excels at this and is pretty good, while the other two have generic music in place of the original compositions that is mucky and boring. Most recently, Hamster Corporation released In the Hunt for the Switch and PlayStation 4 as part of their Arcade Archives series – with plenty of bonus features and online leaderboards, it’s the best way to play the game."
Aha, okay
🤔
So his opinion changed it seems.
Im curious now. Gonna boot up the PSX port again and look for any tearing
Switch port looks ace btw, has a caravan mode too
I beat the PS1 port last year and had a great time, but I've never played the Saturn port. I was planning on doing the arcade soon for funsies.
Oooh!
Anyway, I like John. I think he seems like a pretty nice person with a decent, measured temperament that doesn't get a lot of YouTube play but goes a long way in establishing trust for this sort of thing. I never liked Sushi-X in the magazine review days for the opposite set of reasons.
That name sounds familiar.. EGM? Gamepro?
EGM
Ahh
Allright, well I think I see what he is talking about
I think this is going to boil down to personal preference. There are some frame drops, and a little bit of tearing but I think this has been greatly exaggerated and I don't think the Saturn version is in any way better. I would still prefer this version.
People saying PS1 is better or Saturn is better. I’m just sitting here playing the M92 core going “heh”
Slowdown is when I bend the game to my will. The hardware is in sheer awe of my majestic skills it just needs to catch a breath.
gradius 3 SA-1 hack is probably not for you then lol
They invented infinite coins for me, true story
Let me just switch this on here.. "free play" there you go
If you want to go full ham on being a pleb just turn on invincibility on the PSX version via cheats 😮
"Irem FastRom Wen" </s>
I mean.. if any arcade system needed a turbo function it's Irem M92. Not that I'm going to bitch if it doesnt happen
Seeing the slowdowns on ninja baseball bat man made me think that too 😅
I have one turbo option that I’ve been meaning to try out.
!
Yes please so I can lord that over @low geode
Your dad's Irem M92 pcb can't do THIS!
Yeah, not like Master Takahashi
FastIrom

I released a new rbf file which contains hi score saving support, matches the pcb audio levels and fixes sprite flicker in mystic riders.
I've increased the overall sound levels, I'm worried they might be clipping a little bit. So if you have an ear for those kinds of things let me know. And let me know how it compares to the general audio levels in other cores.
I also removed the ALPHA label from the rbf because I think this is pretty close to release.
Hell yeah will try it out in a bit
great job! 😄
@gusty kiln was a MASSIVE help with the audio part. Both PCM and FM audio have been verified.
As is customary for MiSTer community, as you're nearing the finish line, I am to ask you what you're going to work on next 😉
Your work is appreciated. I won't stop being annoying and asking for turbo though 😉
Super turbo
Things were overall quiet compared to other arcade cores before. In the bottom ~5% for volume in games I documented levels for. I'll try the new update soon to see where it lands now.
Snake sound is now fixed! One thing though, It feels like the sound effects in rtype leo are a bit louder than the music? Maybe that is according to the PCB? Also, the title screen is still missing the explosions
Toya, do you have the demo sounds dip turned on?
Oh I must’ve missed that…
Ok it works
Awesome thanks for the update and amazing work as usual!! So after Testing the new build today,
-In The Hunt is the only title I can get the Coin and Start buttons to be acknowledged by the game properly. Everything seems to map right in the core menu, but when in game neither coin nor start is acknowledged. The exception is when hooking up a keyboard, keys 5-8 will coin up. I went back to older builds and confirmed as working before todays update.
Some games can be set to freeplay and you can get game to start because "any key" starts (undercover cops is one)
-Sound levels much closer to hardware, although certain titles seem to be louder than others.
Sounds like you have old mras
Noobs bruhhh..
Yeah old mra
I thought I had replaced them with the newer ones but looks like you were right, working great now. 👍
I had the same issue except coin and start didn't work at all for me. It was old mras.
This is why I'll just delete my whole arcade folder once everything is being downloaded by update all to make no old mras are lurking about
Wow, matched so fast 🙂
I'm really glad you chose to use it, and that you ported the test.
Thank you very much
I did it from bed last night! 🙂
Without even listening to it, just used mdfourier to dial it in.
That's the idea: "Golden ears through your eyes"
I wonder if we can help match levels in mame and send a patch
Lmk. I might turn it down because there is a little bit of clipping in some really loud areas. Not sure though. Audio levels on the hardware itself are really inconsistent between games.
WUNDERBAR
One thing that could be compared is the sfx between the core and pcb for r type Leo
I'll do a recording at some point soon
Right now I am embarking on the single most difficult task in any core development.
Writing a readme
that nobody will read
we should at least be able to get AI to do that much
it wrote almost the same thing for me:)
I think the current readme is perfect and you shouldn't write a new one
The Irem M92 core includes numerous games that have not been ported elsewhere, providing a unique and authentic arcade experience. Some of the popular games available in this core are:
In the Hunt
Gunforce
R-Type Leo
Hook
Blade Master
Mystic Riders
Undercover Cops
Ninja Baseball Batman
Installation
To install the Irem M92 core on your MiSTer FPGA, follow these steps:
Download the iremm92.rbf file from the official MiSTer repository or the Wickerwaka's Patreon page.
Place the iremm92.rbf file in the /_Arcade/ folder on your SD card.
Create a mame folder in the root of your SD card, if it does not already exist.
Place the Irem M92 ROMs in the /mame/ folder. The ROM files should have the extension .zip.
Restart your MiSTer FPGA and launch the Irem M92 core from the main menu.
Note: It is important to only use ROMs that you have legally obtained and are allowed to use.
Controls
The Irem M92 core supports the use of various controllers, including arcade sticks, gamepads, and keyboards. The default controls for this core are:
Coin 1: 5
Start 1: 1
Up/Down/Left/Right: Arrow keys
A/B/C buttons: Z/X/C keys
D button: S key
You can configure the controls for each game individually by pressing the "TAB" key during gameplay.
Support Wickerwaka on Patreon
If you enjoy using the Irem M92 core on your MiSTer FPGA and appreciate Wickerwaka's work, consider supporting him on his Patreon page:
https://www.patreon.com/wickerwaka
Your support will help him continue creating new and exciting arcade cores for the MiSTer platform.```
I don't know how to make code drops, hang on, lol
The Square Hole Girl Part 1 Link :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfCiW4UhqLo
Dick in my ass Link :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZgkaQ5p6E
Girl gets emotional
Make it Viral
#Viral
I got a bit of a novice question, where can I see if this has made it to the update all script yet ? I have seen how to install it by hand just wondering
Soon
Yeah but I was wondering if there's like a changelog somewhere I could see what's added to the main repository sorry for the dumb question I'm learning
You will see it once it is added to main
You can keep an eye on the #news channel
Really appreciate you for this core @stuck hatch Taking a break for a while after you finish this up?
Maybe this is sorta what you looking for?
Usually posted in #news too
Part of main now but hasn’t been picked up by the Distribution repo yet so the update scripts won’t download it yet
Woooooooooo
No turbo no download 
Now it is fully live; the update scripts will download it
just want to thanks @stuck hatch for this core
Send him some flowers!
Oh wow, this going live today? What an insane week for MiSTer!
nice wabba 😉
Thank you everyone for all your help and support over the last few weeks. You have all been important to getting this core ready for it’s official release.
thanks for all your hard work !
Incredible accomplishment Martin, thank you again.
I'm not going to lie. I literally didn't know anything about any of these games until you started working on them
And they've brought me a lot of joy already just messing around during testing. Now it's time to sit down and play through them!
I'm only seeing 3 of the games in the Irem M92 arcade organizer collection even though update all did grab everything. Anyone else have the same?
Thank you .this is 1 of the arcade board I been most looking forward to. Hoping someone would pick it up ever since you started going down the Irem chain of systems.
yeah me too...only 3 of the M92 games downloaded:
I was about to mention that too. Haunted castle isn't a great game but it represents getting the ball rolling with all the great Konami stuff
They all were downloaded, you can find them in the top level arcade folder. Just not listed in the organized one
I looked in the top level for R-type Leo..it's not there..
what's the submarine game called?
In The Hunt
yeah thought so.. that's not there either.
strange..yes I have those
I checked mine and do have In the Hunt and RType
Maybe try running update all one more time, I've had new releases be a little funny like this
do you have r-type 1, 2 AND leo?
NVM it's all showing now. I think maybe skill issue: I forgot to
umount so it was probably only showing the games on my NAS
I made a pull request to the mra Alternative repo, and it will be updated . @misty yarrow please merge it
Wow the music (and drumbeats) in R-Type Leo! 🥰 Thanks so much @stuck hatch
I doubt if it's possible but any chance at getting some user control over sfx volume..the awesome music is being drowned out by the laser fire and explosions sounds on mine
Not a great game is being very kind to Haunted Castle
That is looking SHARP. Thanks!
Iyes but like I said it's the first step towards a lot better things so I'm happy about it
Yep. Means to an end!
@broken lantern check this out
I wasn't aware of this arcade game until now, thanks to you 😄
With haunted castle now released, it shouldn't be too long before the other konami games from '87-'89 (like Black Panther) are on MiSTer! Exciting times..
Black Panther is on the Gradius/Salamander hardware so I am hopeful
Im guessing HC is patreons only
Thank you for all your work! Hope to see turbo function in the future!
I can never get Arcade Organizer to work properly. The configuration menu does not actually seem to work? Even if I tell it yes/no on sorting options it just does whatever it wants.
And srg320 just come out of nowhere with battletoads
"I got a Saturn update! Oh and here is Battletoads"
I had two M92 pcbs so this is a delight to have.
I sold all my pcbs years ago, my cab, supergun, everything. I just have a couple left like Air Raid/Cross Shooter.
So getting cores for stuff I had is like getting reacquainted with an old friend.
same except mine are non-irem: Shinobi, Double Dragon and Streetfighter 2 (crappy rainbow edition bootleg)
My Double Dragon pcb came to me with water damage, it was a lost cause ><
oh man...my attic had a few leaks so I'm hoping mine's not water damaged now
Gunforce II/Metal Slug beta is tons 'o fun
I played some of it with alpha version, tons 'o fun indeed.
I love the pre-team nazca stuff
In the hunt is one of the beautifull 2d games imho. Shame they never made an r-type looking like it.
Played by: SCHLAUCHI
Known as Cosmic Cop in the West! -
Disclaimer: Most videos by World of Longplays use SaveStates!
Technically a part of the R-Type series
I will probably add something. The current levels are accurate, but it doesn’t always make for a great listening experience.
Jotego and pramod cores has OSD option for volume adjust. Maybe you can get inspiration from there
Hey thanks so much for all your work!! And for answering..I'm SO grateful for having access to all this so I didn't mean to make requests..was just an idea that might help...Thanks Again!
Oh, not a problem. I wanted to get to a point where I was confident that the audio was accurate before adding quality of life tweaks.
Want an arcade pcb of an unemulated game? 🙂
…maybe?
Gameplay from actual board of a very rare Seibu shoot em up from 1987
Currently the game is not completely emulated in Mame due to the custom graphic roms covered under a ceramic coating
Nothing too special.
But MiSTer having a game before Mame... quite a milestone
Thst glorious curved CRT beauty..Can't express how lovely it is!!!!
Not mine, but yeah its nice looking
It kinda is VERY special..that game is like a prequel to the Raiden Trad series.
You can see it plays just like those games.
Could even lead to a core for those later..but the Graphics rom is soldered and has black epoxy covering it on the board that was used for the mame dump so the graphics are corrupt on that one.
Yeah, I probably wouldnt be doing @stuck hatch any favors by sending that kind of unhappy job 🤔
or a big favour..in any case it would be fun to play
It's nothing incredible, just notable for being one of Seibu Kaihatsu's first shmups and a cute em up at that
yeah would make for great MiSTer history imho..like you said: mister having a game before mame Is quite a milestone..well mame does have it but the graphics are screwed so it still counts.
That looks fun, what are the technical specs for it? Does it have weird custom chips? Anything else run on the board? Feels like there must be something to it if Mame hasn't got it working.
very colorful and the same company as Raiden... I liked it
Globtops/epoxy apparently
Last week I finished the Raiden DX , Raiden 1 and 2 on psx core..amazing music and game hard as hell
I had a Raiden pcb, loved tate-ing the XM29+ for that one
Ah, so you need to get all the gloop off the board before you can tell what is on there?
Easier said than done, but yeah
This just makes me soon able to set up an arcade to play mister inside and be even happier
Which JAMMA solution were you thinking of going with?
Here in Brazil, a ready-made arcade is expensive, I'm thinking of mounting it with one of my Dell 2007fpb 4:3 monitors, a simple and easy solution to configure, and it serves to mount the monitor with rotation so I can use it Both vertically and horizontally.
Never hurts to roll your own.
Did you ever see the news article about the Brazilian man holding people up with an SMS Phaser? lol
I saw this but it's been a few years
He just needed a Famicom light gun, everyone would have taken him more seriously
Brazil Not for the weak....only with Sega Power are allowed
"Bright orange NES zapper".... me being so old mine was grey, dying inside.
Here the mega drive and the master system reigned, here the NES was successful with clones, the Phantom System, Dynacom...
Why not both?
I had a NES Zapper taken out of my hand luggage at London City Airport a few years ago. You know, incase I used it to hijack a plane to Edinburgh... Still annoyed about that as it will have almost certainly wound up being thrown in the bin.
I borrowed my father's suitcase about 10 years ago to visit my future wife across the country.. he had left a magazine full of steel jacketed makarov 9mm rounds in it on accident. I had a great time at airport security
-i was brining up here to put in storage at my parents as it was a pain to store, I case anyone wondered why I had a zapper in my hand luggage
Ouch!
I was kind of annoyed so I sarcastically told them to go blow it up out on the air strip or something so I could not miss my flight
Ah yes, fun fact, in the VS version you can indeed shoot the dog
Damn y’all gonna get us on a watchlist posting pics like that
It was 2006, and there was time to hang Bandai Hypershot MP5s on the apartment wall.
Just Tencent's watchlist, and the CCP's
It do look bad ass do
It's just so beautiful 🙌
You are a person of good taste
You're not wrong! It's my favorite release this year, for sure.
Original PCB /Supergun Sigma AV5000 Scart Packapunch 240p To the OSSC 4x(960p) and upscaled by the Framemeister in 1080P60 for capture to the Elgato HD60S and recorded by OBS
Just gonna leave this here, my favorite deep cut top tier beat em up
Well that explains why I never seen one in an arcade. Great game though.
I can't see the artifacting there, but you can try setting integer scaling
my mistake, but there is a small horizontal band in the left corner in the middle of the screen it only happens in the first stage
it already has full scaling, it is 5x in this screen according to the mister
UC Cops Japanese and Alpha Renewal versions have some extra stuff like super moves. Rosa/Flame's is up-qcf attack while in the air.
Good to know, I'll look after I finish this one.
@snow heart https://github.com/wickerwaka/Arcade-IremM92_MiSTer/issues/8
Issue known.
Either the HINT timing is wrong or the latching of tile scroll offsets timing is wrong. Need to confirm on hardware.
Thanks
The attract loop on undercover cops is pretty awesome.
Yeah. Then the bio for each character followed by a section of their fighting.
I really hate the moles in Undercover Cops their only saving grace is they die with 1 hit
That's not a mole..I know it's called a mole but really looks nothing like a mole
As someone with a garden full of them, I agree.
At least they arent throwing wrenches at you
Wouldn't that be fun if the moles in your garden threw wrenches at you?
It would certainly cut down my hardware costs, but not substantially enough to offset the medical bills.
Lmao
Saw via tweet M92 is in update all. Congrats @stuck hatch bang up job!
Ooh, I had World. Maybe that input wont work on the others then
Want to take on another challenge?
This beautiful Frank Frazetta ripoff art is begging for your touch
is that an arcade game of castlevania?
Thats the flyer for Akumajo Dracula, or Haunted Castle as its known internationally
Hey, whenever you feel like it. I do appreciate it of course.
heh good night!
The _organized list seems to have platforms/Irem_M92 already, but misses important games like In the Hunt 🙂
Have you run update all again recently? I had the same issue but they sorted it out a few hours ago
Ah ok.
Stilll happening. When I browse to _organized/3 Collections/1 By Platform/Irem M92/ , In the Hunt is missing for example.
same here, just ran the updater
I got it, it is called Kaitei Daisensou in the list, not In the Hunt.
It is because my db is categorizing the Japanese versions
I will change it so that it will be in the hunt (jp) instead
Since people are familiar with that name
apart from ther problem with organizer that still cannot get a list of the m92 games even after launching again update_all, i have a problem with Super Soldiers. when a fight starts it crushes
Anyone can verify?
I have now updated arcade organizer so that the japanese names are english names
This is a temporary change
This is what I get
You have to re run arcade organizer
i deleted irem m92 mra's and still got this though
also Super Soldiers works for you?
in order to force organizer to rerun
still, i run update_all and getting the above
Let me check
im forcing a full build of organizer by running the organizer script only
Got them this way and not by just using update_all
Super Soldiers (US) is not working, when the timer is around 95-96 it crashes when pressing a button.
also Ninja Baseball (JP) is not booting from the organizer folder but (world) from main menu works fine
Seem to be working ok for me, but why is there no hqx2 scan doubler fx? I use this feature alot and only seems to be missing for irem games.
Also arcade organiser has missing region roms for new m92 games. Jap seems to be ok.
Coin and start not work on me, so i set to freeplay and start with any for temp fix
scan doubler fx is inside video settings of the core
i think than that the mra's currently being listed with organizer are not correct
for example in the hunt (JP), pause is insert coin and start P2 is Start P1...
even after configuring buttons through core options
Hq2x isnt there only crt effects
indeed, you are right, it is something i don't use
I prefer it for blending and round pixels on lcd and use filters. It's alot crisper.
Super Soldier works for you? ingame after pressing a button?
Thank you for the confirmation, it is not only me then
Hopefully the missing scan doubler fx will be added at some point 🤞
Arcade organizer is not missing anything. We are organizing the preferred versions
It works for me
Works for me
You are doing it wrong. Nuke all your mras in the _Arcade folder and re run update_all. You have old mra files in your folder
The “mras” in the organizer folder are symlinks and deleting those won’t fix your problem
This ☝️
I had the same issue it was old MRA lurking that I thought I had erased
if those are just symlinks, is there a way to hide games we don't want to see from our lists without update_all putting them back every time?
I don’t get your question
Are you saying that you don’t want games to show?
it's. silly question I guess..the answer is probably to create my own folder of symlinks with just the games I want to see.
There is a filter that you can use in downloader to filter out cores that you don’t want to download
The organizer organizes mras and based on the best version of each arcade games
- Prefer latest release version
--Prefer English language
-
Prefer most widespread release
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Prefer most complete version
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Prefer versions that are uncensored, and have story/cutscenes intact
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Prefer versions that keep the original gameplay balance
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Prefer releases from original developers/publishers rather than licensees
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Prefer releases without region-specific notices or warnings
but I won't know which arcade cores until I try them, so it's probably better to create my own "favourite games" folder of symlinks
Yeah that’s fine
What about the hq2x? Was this deliberately not added for some reason?
Wickerwaka mentioned yesterday he was waiting until he released the public build yesterday before adding “QoL tweaks” involving options for sfx audio levels and other things. Perhaps it is something he intends to do in the future , but I do not know.
Ok thanks for providing that info. Does that potentially mean other irem cores will have the same done to them. I am pretty sure its just some bits wickerwaka was working with, but I am not pointing fingers 😁
I'm a big fan of any beatem up that allows you to curb stomp the enemies while they are down 😁
Just for context a lot of the more popular ones don't.
Yeah I can’t think of many. Love that touch in NBB. It always made me laugh in Undercover cops when the flying enemy with the blades on his arms knocks you down , then comes up and pokes you with the blade till you get up 😆
Thanks now mine are fixed
Awesome! 😎
Finished Hook
I don’t know if anyone posted this here before, but I think this will be the first time a lot of people play Undercover Cops and it’s worth noting these key differences in the versions from World vs Japan/Alpha renewal. This page breaks it down. I think there are some that are missed here but covers most.
Anyone else having trouble with composite and s-video using the Antonio Villena adapter and the M92 games? The colors are messed up.
I noticed some slowdown in the game in the hunt, is that normal ? Sorry I'm pretty new in the scene
Support has to be added .. you should consider purchasing the MikeS Y/C adapter from misteraddons
Yes it is normal behavior
It is superior to villenas adapter
Thank you
They work fine for me on the MisterAddons board
Yeah I’ve been thinking about buying it. Do I just buy any vga cable along with it to plug into my analog io?
Yes but make sure it has pin9 connected if you want to power it via the Mister itself. First cable I grabbed from Amazon didn’t
Do you have a link or brand name cable I should buy?
Support has to be added to the core for Antonio’s adaptor?
I went with this one that had pin 9 connected https://a.co/d/3mXdgMS
Features: 1.Connector A:VGA 15 Pin Male 2.Connector B: VGA 15 Pin Male 3.VGA/SVGA HD15 male to male cable allows you to connect your projectors, Displays, TVs, monitors with VGA interface to your Laoptop or PC for high quality videos or photos 4.Supports resolutions at UXGA (1600x1200), WXGA (168...
Possibly? There’s a couple other cores like 32x that don’t work with the adapter. Jotegos cores do work if you needed an example.
Thanks.
I use the misteraddons version, I thought they were fundamentally the same thing.
I think they’re different. Pork chop or someone explained it a while back but I can’t remember. I think the Antonio adapter just converts rgb to s-video and composite.
I think so
All I know is that villenas adapter does S video very well but composite has mad artifacting and rainbowing effects
I found a problem with the core
Not present with MikeS adapter because of the active Luma trap
Correct. Composite looks awful.
The core is way too good, I can’t stop playing, this is a problem
Oh you!
That is a problem !
Wickerwaka what have you done!
Sounds like a personal problem
Think about the children!
Now Robby is gonna lose his job cause he just can’t stop ..
Just updated the mister after months.
Can’t believe this core is so good, insanity. You’re amazing wickerwaka. Props to you — I can play Undercover Cops how it was meant to look like but especially r-type Leo 👁️ 👁️ oh boi
👁️👄👁️
People have reported freeze in surperior soldier when starting a fight. Seems like the core freezes and restarts
#1089922738682089554 message
I can create a GitHub issue about this
Please, in the mister repo though. Not my personal one.
Yes sir!
Turned out good! Probably only so much it can do with the tiny details like the trademarks yeah
You look great 👀
Anyone with more experience at the game, are there known game bugs with In the Hunt?
https://youtu.be/IfMwPOVMzQc
After continuing from a death, respawned off the screen (you can see my missile fire on the left side before I suddenly appear) It was like this for ~20 seconds before I started recording and I'm not sure if a wait period for the ice freed me or spamming the fire buttons.
Had this happen on the first stage when trying it for the first time on the official release version
I was stuck there for like 20 seconds before I started recording, but you can see in the video it eventually freed me, either from the ice blob where I was supposed to be "timing out", or from mashing fire buttons- not sure
I played through a few updates ago and did have any issues but that doesn't mean something couldn't have cropped up in a later update I guess.
PSX one works fine 😉
Security!! Someone escort @low geode to the door
😄
I'd say bug it. I have never seen that, but I've only played the arcade cab maybe 5 times or so. I've played the PS1 version a bunch and it's never happened. Maybe a timer opp is missing?
thing is- how to reproduce? "suck as bad as I do at the game and try to die here in the same condition" is a tough one to report
I mean, he's free to close it 'no repro' but having it documented seems good.
could be a quirk with the original hardware, i'd like to play it for a while and see if it occurs again
I'll give it a go, too. Great reason to play. Hehe.
Were you just playing the default World version?
whatever version is in the main arcade folder
Weird. How are those ice things supposed to be destroyed?
Can you link the video in a github issue?
usually you just blast your way through the ice when frozen, but i died there and had to continue and thats when this occurred
Oh yeah, I should post this in here also-
We're doing a single credit score challenge for R-Type Leo down in the #game-challenge channel for anyone who wants to join in! Score submissions open until the 28th.
yeah i'll post it.
Should the high score table during attract look like this?
Uninitialized data maybe?
looks like your high score saving may have corrupted the scoreboard
ive seen similar in other games that had high score saving implemented
You can delete the .nvm file for the core
when i had this occur in other arcade cores, it was a combination of "Pause on OSD open" that really made it more likely. Especially in cores that have a longer boot sequence like M92
lets say you boot the core and open the OSD, and it pauses during the initialization phase, you then choose all your desired settings in the OSD and save them before continuing with the game. In the other cases where I noticed it, this save during initialization could reliably reproduce the corruption
@tribal cargo was able to clear up that issue before and might have some insight there, in case it is indeed something similar causing it
Ah, that's a great diagnosis!
Save Settings forces the nvram to save, so if it isn't in a good state yet you'll probably end up saving garbage.
Normal difficulty, 4 lives, just hit start and let it idle until the player died and the credits countdown finished.
They sound very similar to me and I don't hear a significant difference between sfx and music levels.
if you look at the waveforms you can probably guess which is the pcb
Superior Soldiers has locked up twice on me. Did a full power cycle between them. Happened almost immediately into the first round of the first fight, throwing a fireball as default starsaber dude
Yeah, it’s got a problem it seems.
Yeah - throwing a fireball as him seems to just plan crash things.
Wonder if it’s sound related. Attract mode works fine. I’ll try toggling sound there.
Locks up in attract mode as well if i enable sound
It seems like it. I know someone finished it, so it wasn’t always like this. Fixing the rtype sound issue might has caused this somehow.
A worthy sacrifice.
Anyone got an issue were the roms were not download by the update all? I have the core installed, but not a single rom were downloaded
By some reason the Arcade Database was disabled on Update All (It was enabled before)
Thanks Hakeshu I think I’ve had the same issue
Fix for Superior Soldiers : Load up Street Fighter II and enjoy 😛 you're welcome!
In the dozens and dozens of times I’ve played the game…never seen that
any plans to add a y/c toggle to the core or should I just get a breakout board
I don't know what the y/c toggle would do, is there other cores that do this?
Old cores make you choose between RGB/YC, you now change that globally in mister.ini
Anyone have any opinions on the r-type WAVs I posted yesterday?
X has sound effects louder than Y imo
oh there's a setting to enable y/c? what's it called
You have to edit the ini, vga_mode=svideo
I finished it
It’s jank fighter heaven ..
Haven’t updated my mister since I’m using an unstable main to test the Saturn core
I believe mikeS is on the case ..
Yes
I forget which one is which. I'll wait for some more opinions and then diff them against the original files
what's the next wicketwaka project?
who's working on killer instinct arcade? who? WHO?
pete townshend maybe
I’ll send @stuck hatch my Apple IIe with duodisk if it means we’ll get a fully fleshed out Apple II core with disk writes and stuff.
What?
Apple IIGS core?
Bruuuuuh
IIgs was used a lot for SNES dev wasn’t it?
snes was (65816) assembly and c afaik so you could use most computers for snes dev: https://www.villehelin.com/wla.html if anyones interested in console dev
M90 is what I'm working on next
yay..arcade bomberman! https://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=746
And.. thats about it
could lead to m97, m107 and others at some point, irem boards have lots of similarities, so we could end up getting lots more cool games 🙏🏽: https://www.system16.com/museum.php?id=4
M90 has a lot in common with the m72 and the m92. It’s kind of a hybrid that has been optimized for cost effectiveness.
my little bro came round to watch the finale of Uncle from Another World today, I had a job to finish, so left him with Ninja Baseball Batman, when I came back he was grinning ear to ear.
thank you for you hard work that made that happen @stuck hatch
Hasamu looks like a decent enough Shanghai type puzzle game
Guardian Heroes should have won
what a show. left me positively howling at points
hehe
Would be great to get the remaining M8X titles like Major Title, Ken-Go and erm, that boxing game if you ever felt like adding those. Thanks for the great work on 'modern' Irem cores. So many great games and memories.
worth reading btw
@stuck hatch sorry if this has been mentioned but pause and coin seem to be reversed in the recent m92 build. I didnt seem to have this issue with the alpha. Also doesn't seem to accurately map p2 start. Using with a miSTercade. Did try ri access service mode but that just freezes the game. This is with update all just run.
Which game?
You probably have old mra and old rbf
It works fine here
I run update all 10 minutes ago.
Did you have the alpha core before it was released?
Yup. Deleted the alpha core.
What about mras?
Aha...oops, no...figured it would override them
Just realised that. That's the issue perhaps?
Well, it works here so delete rbf and mras
Delete rbf, mra and also delete config file for the core in the config folder
Then run update_all
Cheers 🙂
svideo mode works like a charm! Although my ini never updated to have the setting, had to grab it from github
bangarang
@tepid sail so I deleted everything and now it won't download any of the m92 stuff via update all. That includes none of the alternative folders.
@misty yarrow did an update to downloader recently
I’m not in front of the computer and mister, else I would check now
Yup. Everything else is fine and it installed that updater. Weird. It won't install the alternate folders for Irem 92. I did this manually for the alpha (but have now removed them). Are these updated too? I'm after the JP versions.
Should not matter the downloader update, since it didnt bring a new version
Are you also using insert coin?
Yup. I have arcade cabs.
He means the script
Yes, the one from @cosmic warren
OK so it's now downloading, but won't download the alternates, so the JP versions. Is there any reason for this? I have all other alternates for other all other cores.
I dont believe I've needed this for anything else.
It should download the alternatives
Nope. Won't do it. Tried 3 times. Deleted everything, downloads everything but.
And the alternates folder on the github says it's 3 days old.
Yeah and that is fine
Don't understand why it won't download alternatives. Is there anything extra I should be doing in scripts or the update all menu? Alternates for everything else work and download fine.
Yup. Everything else works and downloads as it should. Alternatives for m92 refuse to download via update all.
You have holy water nearby?
haha
Could you please name the games that you see missing?
All of the M92 alternative cores: Hook, R-Type Leo, UCC etc. Etc. Etc. Even as I watch update all download it just downloads the main files, the world version of NBBM for example.
Not for nothing. I’m missing the Alternative versions too. They used to be there before the release
At least I'm not alone!
Were they ever installed for you guys?
I am using Insert Coin tho
I installed them manually wheb the alpha dropped. Removed them since and update all hasn't installed. So only ever qorked manually
That story is more familiar then
Do you know about this issue @cosmic warren ?
So just ran update_all again and looks like it grabbed them. Ran it on Friday last time
@spiral night something you could do is:
- Remove _Arcade folder
- run update_all
- share your log file at Scripts/.config/downloader/downloader.log so that I can take a look to see what is getting
I just deleted the alternatives folder and it downloaded it made the downloader grab the zip file for alternatives and that got everything
Did exactly this, installed all the alternatives except the M92 ones.
Sharing my log now.
You are filtering out alternatives
From distribution_mister, see that !alternatives in your filter
The only alternatives you have are from jtcores, because you didn't put the filter there neither under [mister]
So edit your downloader.ini to remove that
I've just realised I've been a moron and left my filter on for alternatives.
Ah yes as you've said above. Completely forget I filtered it . Idiot I am! Sorry. Thanks dude.
No worries, glad you can fix it
It was because I was originally running on a specific cab and have since changed and not altered my downloader file 🫣
Thanks mate. Sorry. Very embarrassed now!
It's all good!
@fast lantern I'm sorry I think you replied elsewhere, but do you have one place where all these scans exist?
Beautiful, thank you.
I wonder what the AI scale could do for this one, seems kind of rough
Ahh gotcha
Ah, I see what you mean
@stuck hatch - Going back to the X/Y sound sample, Y seems more bass-heavy and tuned for preference, X seems more like how I remember my PCB actually playing. Balanced, pre-equalized, like. I prefer X.
the background art has been cleaned up already, at least- posted down in #share-media
Looks like an old mra
I've let update all download all mra on _arcade folder and the issue remained. Am I missing something? I'm still on stable main.
try deleting the mra for it off your SD card and running the updater again.
hey back to our discussion about In The Hunt PS1, I was watching a MLiG stream tonight with John as a guest and he brought it up:
https://www.youtube.com/live/D7FivfCWBpg?feature=share&t=1978
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They discuss the M92 core being a public release in general just before this
update_all wont remove mras that were manually installed if they had a different name
Forgot to mention I deleted every single mra from _arcade folder on that last message, sorry. Everything .mra there was downloaded by update_all, on Saturday.
I actually loaded Street Fighter after trying Superior Soldiers 
It's not the end of the World this game having issues.
I'm happy with Ninja Baseball Bat Man, Hook and Undercover Cops working great. Amazing Core!
I've deleted MRAs, RBFs, .zips, Superior Soldiers still does red-screen crash
Does it get to the title screen before that?
yep, it's when fight starts
sometimes characters can move for a few seconds
if they make contact it will happen instantly
The X wav was from the original PCB, Y was from mister.
I’m surprised how good the core sounds vs pcb
Same for me
I can make it crash here also.
Can I set the 'Prefer English Language' setting inside the configuration wizard for Update_All?
Yes
But I will change things up in the arcade organizer for m92
Stay tuned
it's probably important (well not really, but) for people to remember early 90s japanese arcades were peak 'the US version is randomly harder/different/why did they do <X>'
I did not realizes this
Also, a strong anti-drug stance
It's weird that the organization is more prominent than the message it is trying to promote
Another war the US lost
So besides that R type leo uses 2 buttons in the overseas version, it is also easier
One button in Japan?
Yup
Shooting and psy bits is done by the same button
I just did a playthrough of NBBM while walking on a treadmill for a stream. It made the time fly by. Too bad the treadmill's controls were really cumbersome with a joystick on the book mount. I kept changing speeds whenever I'd try to run or had to waggle the stick.
R-type Leo is definitely the most non-R-type of the series
Gosh, when you play that stage in Superior Soldiers with the destroyed Whitehouse in the background, it really makes you think.
Unless you count R-Type Tactics I guess.
No political commentary!
The Canadians struck again?
Hey ! Just ran update all . Do I need to install the roms manually ?
The option for roms in update all is disabled by default. You need to enable it.
Thank you so much !
At the end of the first stage of Ninja Baseball Bat Man as 2 player the video cut to black but the audio still played
And it didn’t recover?
Played all the way through that in two played and didnt have any freezing issues or weird black screens. will have to try again on the official release version. another excuse to play ninja baseball bat man again is okay with me! 😁
I only gave it a minute to be fair I can test it out again on the same ini in a bit
Upon replaying the game froze twice, on the character select screen and right after the first door. I am using default settings
Do you know if your high scores are corrupt?
Man, I have been banging my head against this superior soldiers issue all week now.
I know the change that broke it, I have no idea why it broke it and I'm adding more and more elaborate tracing to the core to try to determine where it is going wrong.
The suffering I have caused, I leave a wake of destruction
Sometimes Superior Soldiers just freezes, sometimes after freezing it starts repeating nonstop the pattern it does when it is doing tests, before the ram ok and rom ok screen.
I already beat it once so don’t even worry about it
The worst part is after you put all that effort in to fix it, all you get in return is Superior Soldiers.
uhh, he needs to fix it so I can start up a local
I hope to get enough interest to get a bathroom slot at evo
I’m there for sure !
Money matches
What is a bathroom slot?
You have to win a fight to be granted acceas
when i go into arcade organizer and look for m92 i only seem to be getting 3 games
i thought there was way more than that - am i arcade organizing wrong or something?
Have you enabled so that you are also sorting alternative mras in the arcade organizer?
I’m going to push a new update today
er, i'm on 100% default arcade organizing
i wiped the whole folder and deleted its ini
i think i might have alternative mras disabled on the downloader side though actually
You need to have that enabled
doesn't it only get like, romhacks and stuff?
No
oh
i think i was trying to minify the amount of just like, not exactly duplicates but basically duplicates for my purposes
You will miss out on the “preferred” versions
The organizer will curate it for you
No need to dive into the _alternative folder
cool, yeah i think i turned it off long long ago before organizer was good
so i had to enable the alternate MRA sorting and i had to change another option related to what it does with other-region files, had to change it to "put them everywhere"
I don’t know about other region files. But what is enough is default settings in update all
Okay, Superior Soldiers now works. Everyone has to play it and say "Oh this game is cool"
Also added an FX volume setting
All kusoge deserves some love.
nice! it might not be authentic but I would like to boost the music in R-Type Leo for an upcoming video
One thing to keep in mind is that some music tracks, especially in r-type, use a mix of fm synth and samples, so lowering the FX volume will lower the volume of those samples also.
But, it does sound better with a little drop
Excited to try the fixes
will probably keep the original volumes for that one then, thanks!
the recent volume change after MD Fourier made the balancing for R-Type Leo go from 75% in windows to 43% in order to maintain roughly the same peak levels (-9db reported in OBS, only hits that during boss explosions)
much louder, but arcade games are generally like that due to the smaller speakers and their desire to attract newcomers, and it's more in line with general arcade core loudness now
Oh this game is cool
Imagine if he used the time spent fixing Superior Soldiers and made a Virtual Boy core instead. I hope y’all are pleased with yourselves being able to play the weird wiggly lady fighting game
Poverty fighting games are a wonderful privilege
I had never heard or seen that game until this core. It’s pretty amazing seeing so much cool stuff being unearthed thanks to MiSTer. Not all of it are winners but it’s all just so awesome.
Indeed
If I wanted the English versions ( when available) should I turn that option on, blow away all the arcade mras, and then run update_all again with your update?
What was the issue? Can you explain it to me in lamest terms .. for my smooth brain to try and grasp ?
I never should have told @stuck hatch SS was broken but I guess somebody else would have eventually done it…
Played In The Hunt yesterday and started getting graphical popins. Then it started slowing down from there. Reset and it happened again. Different area though.
No need to delete the organized folder. Just toggle a setting in the arcade organizer to sort based on region
But I’m going to push a new update today that will update the item m92 sorting
Is Starsaber just Space Ryu?
I introduced a bug when I was making some other changes. I knew the exact change that had caused it but it took a long time to realize that I had changed some behavior.
Finally got around to doing a full play through of Ninja Baseball Bat Man. It's honestly shocking just how good it is. One of the best beat'em ups ever made.
I've played through it 4 times (I'm not in any delusion that I can 1cc any arcade game. I'm a brute force quarter pumper). And every time it's been with a smile ear to ear.
OH YEAH!
Posts that you can hear.
I have no idea if the slowdowns are board-accurate since I've never played it in the arcade, but they do seem really severe in a few spots. I just assumed, as that's Nazca's MO, they were doing what they were supposed to. But maybe there's an issue.
Any time a gunship goes over head it gets very slow for me.
I had a pcb, the slowdown is pretty normal
That tracks.
Yeah, In The Hunt has a lot of slowdown in the arcade.
This was a bug for sure since it slowed down just a bit then got slower as the game went on.
It's one of the reasons some people say the PS1 port isn't as good as the Saturn port. Because the PS1 port removed a lot of the slowdown.
Apart from the core, I've only ever played PS1 and it was much easier, for sure. Maybe just because of that simple fact.
Not a temp slowdown because of the sprite count
Ah
Honestly I think that's a good thing, I've been saying the PSX port is arguably the best. It does a pinch of frameskipping to accomplish the extra speed but I find it preferable.
Happened to me 2x and always preceded by graphical glitching where a sprite would pop-up where it shouldnt be.
Any specific place? Probably worth filing on GitHub.
Have you tried the latest version of the core?
The one from today? Not yet
Wow. That is extreme. Which region are you running? Have you run the sdram test recently?
that looks 100% like the framerate bug i encountered yesterday in metroid prime remastered on yuzu - it TANKED
hm. a lot of OTHER things happening in this case. lol.
World
No errors at 150
Btw, this was taken after I updated to the latest build.
In the hunt is brutal
I'd have to pump like $30 onto that game to finish it in. An arcade 😂
Imagine playing Metroid Prime Remastered in a jank emulator instead of playing on an actual Switch
Couldn’t be me
it runs flawlessly at 4k in yuzu 99% of the time but i encountered some audio memory glitch that destrrrroyyyed my life
you do you. i do yu zu. 
that’s pretty cool about Yuzu
well since the emulator doesn't have save states yet and prime is a game from 1843 with save points spread apart, no 8k 120fps is gonna make me take a chance on emulating it i think
not if i'm gonna have to DREAD encountering a bug like that which basically made the game unplayable
the fps counter said 17 locked but it wasn't correct as it played at like 3
I’m sure it is the exact same problem we are experiencing here, so let me know if they fix it.
Ninja Baseball Batman is the sirloin steak of this meal, Rtype Leo is the fully loaded baked potato, Hook is the sauteed vegtables, and In the Hunt/Mystic Riders the fine wine. Superior Soldiers is the weird green sprig of something they lay on top of the steak. You are not supposed to eat it, but it's there to make the meal look complete.
I really like NBB.. but I feel that it is getting a bit overhyped 🤨
Never played it until this core, and I think it's getting just the right amount of hype.
I liked it enough before to get a pcb of it. I just think it's a 7/10 beat em up, not a 9 or 10
What is your 10/10?
10/10, tough to say. A good contender would probably be Denjin Makai 2: Guardians
First of all NBB is the only beat em up I have ever found that does not “feature” an elevator level
I love it when Taco acts like he knows what Im talking about
These games become button mashing coin munchers for me, so I think I appreciate style over gameplay.
NBB oozes style
I say Guardians because it has a combo system, and special move inputs like a fighting game. Also 8 selectable characters.
Isn’t that a boot leg of Gaia crusaders ?
I mean I like the game but in terms of style it can’t hold a candle to NBB
All games are button mashers it just comes down to which ones make it the most fun to sit and mash buttons
Oye vey
Personally I don’t mash.. each button press is deliberate
Lol I kid
??
You're unga bunga to the core
Gaia Crusaders is.. fine
Agreed ..
Guardians bootleg pcbs on aliexpress for $60, originals for $120, just saying. A real bargain either route.
I would rather invest that into a second DE 10
Bunch of random games on that hardware.
Now you're talking sense
Yeah.. I dunno if it's really worth a core 😦
I love this analogy.
My favorite analogies are oxymorons, like Robby has good taste
Oh this game is cool
Oh this game is "cool" cool (fixed)
No no no. No quotes. You gotta say it like you mean it!
Dont rag on kusoge, it has a b movie quality that is like fine wine
I was skimming the stuff I had missed here and for a second thought you meant Guardians of the Hood being a 10/10 beat-'em-up. I played that in the arcade - imagine Pit Fighter but as a beat-'em-up and an even worse game. Only redeeming feature is that one of the enemies is named Nigel. I hope we get a core for it one day.
Oh lawd, I am familiar. You are not wrong Elder Saisyu
I did play some Superior Soldiers last night. Was happy it worked, was surprised how similar it actually is to Street Fighter.
With different character themes
Yep every archetype move set from street fighter is well imitated in superior soldiers .. but SS does do some cool arial special moves that we’re not common in fighters at the time ..
I had fun playing it, the most important thing
Same!
Now that it’s fixed I can get on with beating it with every character .. I’m sure most of those endings are bonkers!!
Appreciate the dedication
seriously wickerwaka thanks for the core, i never heard of M92 before you made it and i've enjoyed several games already!
wickerwaka is our savior
Me neither!
Now I need to find something else I haven't heard of
Trio the Punch: Never Forget Me?
Crude buster is a cool game
i'd love to see an arcade core for an old lightgun game
i don't think anyones made one so far
Chiller?
i was thinking of some terminator game
but any would be neat
Best viewed in 60 fps. I'm player 1 and Mark is player 2. Note that the number of bombs per continue was set at 99. I edited out one death each at the two parts in the game where you restart if you fail.
Taito z space gun
Chase HQ is fun
Taito F series 👀
F1, F2, F3
Someone is working on F3, but F1 and F2 maybe
F1 got Pu Li Ru La
well why'd you tell him about them? now he's heard of it
Pu Li Ru La has so many ports I get paralysis of choice
Whose working on f3 don't think I heard about that one
...their website literally makes you wait through the entire bubble system warmup routine.
I approve of this.
Oh this game is 🆒
I appreciate your hard work .. can’t wait to see what you cook up next .. when and if you decide to proceed with a new project
Thought he was working on a Zeebo core ?
I have it on Towns. Mid tier port
Weird though. Which ups it’s score IMO
Ninja Clowns is a typical beat-em-up developed by Strata, the same company that developed Time Killers and shorta Sequel Bloodstorm. The basis of the games came from BloodStorm and Time Killer.
That’s just too weird lol
How about JJ Squawkers?
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Gotta love the random MGM screams in there
Lol, its so goddamn WEIRD though
That too
A Ball & Paddle Game where you control Jaxson to catch and bounce a ball and eat food while ball is in the air.
Note: Used keep ball on play cheat after down to last life. The game is endless so I quit afterwards.
And this?
Oops, too weird. Lost him.
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Ah! I've played this one, I think I was looking up trackball games or something in mame? Was weird I remember that much.
Anymore lightgun games that havent been developed yet? Like Point blank for example or something similar.
Eh?
I don’t believe we have any lightgun arcade cores
finally got a chance to try the new build with FX volume settings. it was great to be able to hear the music in In The Hunt
I thought there was some
@lapis fable for what it’s worth I also thought it was a light gun compatible core at first, haha
Same with Turkey Shoot
@stuck hatch Have you considered turbo option for this core? Good lord, Gun Force 2 is a masterclass in arcade slow-down.
Also this game rules
I found a bug in Gun Force 2, I don't know if this is an original game thing, or a MiSTer core thing.
On the second to last level (I can't recall if that's 3 or 4) when you're fighting mech-mantis
You can just jump off the screen and shoot up, you don't die, it can't hit you
look at that 16-bit beast. it's destined to explode when killed.
thats surprising
I could be wrong but unfortunately I don’t think I am. Considering how solid the light gun stuff is now, it’s s great opportunity for a light gun arcade game core to be made!
I've been asking for this too
Would also be great to have the scan doubler effect hq2x added to the core.
This boss fight on the first level of Gun Force II is incredible looking
The burning forest in the background, this big dumb mech
Yes indeed, soon to be team nazca were basically making the Metal Slug beta with that game 🙂
Did they do in the hunt as well?
They totally had watched Alien/Alien while making that game 😂
It's all very Alien inspired
Yes. Undercover Cops, In the Hunt, Gun Force II, and Armed Police Unit Gallop on the other Irem core. There might be more, Im not sure
Gallop is technically in the R-Type timeline too IIRC
Is it normal for Gun Force 2 to not actually end?
When you beat the final boss it takes you back to Level 1
But you're at a higher score multiplier
And score continues
Seems odd.
Ran update_all today; only Gun Force II and Superior Soldiers are in the MiSTer Core > IremM92 folder. If I go to Collections > Irem I only see Gun Force II, Hammerin' Harry, Superior Soldiers, and Traverse USA. I also noticed when I looked at Organized > L-Q I don't see Ninja Baseball Bat Man. When I ran the script I decided to turn on 'USA" as the main region b/c I thought that would get me the (mostly) English titles and also added the Super Attract Mode. I did not have the M92 cores before now (previous MiSTer update was a month ago or so). Do I have to turn off the 'USA' region to get all the games in the Collections > Irem or MiSTer Core > IremM92 folder?
Martin, did someone already stream a 4 player ninja batman sesh? If i recall correctly you’d mentioned wanting to see this?
I haven’t seen one, I can only imagine how crazy it would get.
Im weird. I don’t like ninja baseball bat man. But I like blade master
People think Im weird for saying NBB is 7/10 and not 10/10 lol
Ok will try and set something up. And report back here. May take a while.
(As in a few days or longer)
Don’t fight! You are both weird.
It is something I would like to add, but I need to do some work. I might have to move the cpu memory to ddram
If there was ever an arcade platform that needed it, it is M92
The devs just did not give AF about slowdown. Not at Irem and not at Nazca
Sometimes that happens. See Parodius and Contra Force NES
awbacon what do you think about this #1089922738682089554 message
have og hardware? Would be interesting if that actually happened on the PCB, lol
It makes me feel like I assume smart people feel when they're playing chess. I can see my loss coming 10 seconds before it hits because I'm caught in a time dilation and all I can do is wait for it to play out. Maybe determinism is the philosophy for me after all.
The gunforce2 slowdown doesn't feel right to me, because it seems very jumpy. in the hunt or mslug slows down just some big moment and then it goes back to normal speed
gf2 seems to almost stutter at times between half speed and full speed.
I suspect there is some additional slowdown in the core due to sdram contention. Something I'm going to try to measure after I fix flip screen and dream soccer
That’s in the game I believe
So much so I think I referenced it in my GunForce 2 video in 2021
You're a saint
Just noticed john lindeman praised this core in the df direct from 3 weeks ago. I guess everyone already saw it but i found it pretty cool.
I was wondering if there was a way to add hq2x to certain games without being a mister guru? Is it like adding a filter file to a folder or much more involved?
I think I need new eyes or aren't using an applicable display, bc every time I've ever turned on hq2x I've had to ask myself whether the screen changed
Or maybe I just need new eyes
”No rom found” prompt when I tried to load In the hunt. Did I update wrong?
Are you using update_all? Check the options, there’s an arcade rom database option you need to turn on.
Open a github issue and I will add it
Or alternatively source your own rom. You can find the zip file you need in the mra, once you locate it make sure to place the zip file in “games/mame”
Not home at the moment. Will update on the solution
Hi all, good morning, I've just created a github issue in M72 (https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Arcade-IremM72_MiSTer/issues/20) for button assigments in Ninja Spirit
All other games work?
yeah!
Have you tried any other controllers?
mmm no. tha'ts a good idea. I also have a 360 wireless controller. I'll try that and add my findings
Confirmed that it also happens with a 360 controller
Added to the main mister issue list. Is that the right one?
No, you should add it to the m92 issue list
All done thank you.
It's also missing from the other irem cores, so do I mention it in the m92 or other issue lists?
M72 is the other core I own. Adding it there might be more complex.
Sorry to be a pain. I use it for all cores as it seems to give me the best picture for my setup, and because I use it a lot for everything else I imagined it was easily transferable.
You are an absolute legend. I only wish I could do what you do 👍
The button assignement works for me in Ninja Batman. Is it maybe an old MRA ? I remember when the alpha testing, I had this issue with an old MRA I was using.
Alternatively someone may have two rbf files for the same core? I noticed that’s a thing when a core is added to the main MiSTer distro and I have a manually added core from before.
The bug is for Ninja Spirit on the M72 core
I just do NOT understand soccer / football games lol
What’s so hard you pass the ball you shoot the ball you goal !
why I suck at them lol
doing one final M92 video and no joke its "Bin 92" in my Bin list on Resolve. Thats wild
I wonder if M92 will be in the other collections...
Only 3 games in the first volume? I'm all about supporting this kinda stuff, but that seems a little anemic. Maybe it's only 3 announced....but it sure looksl ike it's just 3. Looks like it's as much for pushing the swag in the CE as it is the games.
Still, awesome to see them keeping it alive.
collector cash grab
Grumble. Undercover Cops “listen to the audio quality of the core” section is a copyright issue. 😩 back to Resolve
(And the scheduled date is just a placeholder before anyone asks lol)
I wish there was a farlight plugin to do a YT copyright check. Hehe. It would save so many uploads.
Now I’ve gotta either recut the video or talk over the soundtrack and tell about gaming soundtrack copyrighrs 😂
I was videoing a Stoat that was running around in my backyard (first I'd ever seen in my area) and had slipknot playing casually in the background. Got flagged despite me having it listed private and I'm not monetized. I understand YouTube is just covering their a$$ but sheesh.
All just SkyNet flagging shit
"collection vol 1". clever girls.
What does the service mode do in ninja baseball bat man? I wanted to see if there was a sound test or anything
I watched a person play through superior soldiers on the core so... thanks? 😄
You are very welcome.
Service modes usually have a sound test where you can play music or fix sounds.
Turn the service dip on and reset. The startup will stop at the rom test screen. There you either press p1 and p2 start at the same time or press the games two buttons at the same time, depending on the game.
Ah i was missing pressing p1 and p2, I'll try that out
It’s the main reason I set up P2 Start as a mappable button.
you're a mappable button
We are all mappable buttons in our hearts. 🫂
Impressive retort. It’s like watching a fencing duel where one of the competitors installs low cost galvanized iron fences for a living.
luul
Basket got owned!!
That sounds like something a mappable button would say
Map this button 
lol
How am I just realizing that we have both wicker and basket here. Truly the wicker basket era of MiSTer.
🧺
What early 3D trashfire is that avatar from?
I have a feeling this dream soccer bug is going to be a pain in the butt to track down
Ouch!
some kind of process of elimination? Let us know if there's anything we can do to help..limited skillsets but for testing, etc. -Dual sdram (v2.9, 256MB total) setup here on crt 240p.
It doesn't look like it is a bug with the background layer implementation, which means it is probably an issue with a cpu instruction not behaving correctly in some edge case.
Fun!
When you need us to focus test something let us know
Unless it's a role playing game, then I have to go wash my cat or something
AKIO, one of the artists behind R-Type, In The Hunt & Metal Slug created a Twitter account two weeks ago and is now regularly posting art and musings on his video game career
Ah how fantastic, thanks for the link!
Ninja baseball bat man seems to have that graphical line issue appearing
Happened after beating the final boss
Which one?
It is simillar to that one which Undercover cops had first level
It is a thin horizontal line
I can replay the game to check again but if someone is willing to try the game and take a picture. That would be good
you mean on the "All stage cleared" screen with the green borders at the top and bottom? I have a video of the beta when playing through 2-player where there is a glitchy bit on the left side on both the top and bottom green bars. no idea if it happens in the official releases though
Can you please share the video?
its not uploaded
Do you have a screendump?
1 sec i'll take a dump on the screen real quick
you can see it especially well in this shot, the brown line at the top-left of the bottom green bar
the bottom of the top green bar above that has a flickering bit also, but harder to see in this shot because of the green turf in the center scene
again, this is from the beta release though, back on april 8th
Here's a clip from the ending, i'm pretty sure this was from not the latest release but the one before it. I see what @crimson wraith is saying. I'm not sure where the red line would be from your description. https://clips.twitch.tv/ShakingSwissOstrichCclamChamp-Hp3QXT6nghzpGRTI
Aaaaand my buddy with the streaming set up is pretty busy and has some tech issues so his estimate became june…. So will check back in then. Guess i can at least try to learn the chars/movesets in the meantime 😳
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT ! If you want an easy way to cheese the cpu in superior soldiers . Pick Arabian moon and as soon as you gain life advantage mash kicks until timer runs out
The cpu will literally just sit there frozen .. not knowing what to do
And the kick animation is … shall we say .. amusing
Hey @stuck hatch - Lethal Thunder screen flip doesn't work. Is this a known thing?
What kinda cheese? Chihuahua?
That peccorino with fly larvae in it.
Just do the thing ..
It is fixed, but I haven’t made a new release yet. I will make one this week now that I am back from vacation.
you sure take a lot of vacations!
I’m European.
Which country?
Ireland
Spain here
Oh so you mean you don’t get 10 total days a year? 😂
I actually have unlimited PTO. But like a lot of people who work in tech I am terrible at using it.
amen lol
Spain is one of the countries with most holidays in the earth.
I thought it was India
My company now has a mandatory summer holiday week
