ASCII - MSX

[potent abyss]

etc

Games like this are why I love DECO

[fallen summit]

Play this @potent abyss https://www.generation-msx.nl/software/bit2/famicle-parodic/release/1196/

[potent abyss]

Looks fun, is this in the vhd?

1988, should be

[potent abyss]

Cute little Xevious clone

[rapid tide]

Trio the Punch is delightfully strange. It's on PS4 and Switch via Arcade Archives.

[fallen summit]

Hmmm - for some reason this disappeared from my list

[karmic rover]

It is because no new messages since some days

[fallen summit]

https://twitter.com/KotaiES/status/1663104686558158850

[potent abyss]

Damn

So this is what humility feels like

[fallen summit]

https://mastropiero.itch.io/spellbound-msx

[fallen summit]

Someone posted this on Facebook

[stuck egret]

hello , anyone knows why some games looks like that on the msx2 core (MSX1_20230203.rbf) thanks!

[stuck egret]

no idea if here is the place to ask this , on the sorgelic or the msx core we got long time ago we can see R800 and turbo options there

but really is not a turbo R simulation right?

if for example I run some Turbo R game , the system tell me "SORRY no TURBO R"

this is because not a Turbo R implementation there right?

or maybe Im wrong

this is what I get when run a Turbo R game

if someone can clarify me this , I would appreciated , thanks in advance

[cyan horizon]

There's no R800 support in any of the two MSX cores. So that option you mention (on the old OCM core) wasn't even supposed to work.

[stuck egret]

Thanks , is true that activating R800&turbo options the simulation goes faster

I like the new Core but seems to get some colour problems at this moments , not sure is are me or the core needs improved...

[fallen summit]

hey @stuck egret 🙂

VampierMSX here 😉

[stuck egret]

Hi @fallen summit ! 🙂

[fallen summit]

it seems you have an aspect ratio of 16:9

and not 4:3

switch to narrow v-integer

[stuck egret]

ah , that are the Digital signal ,I dont care about 😄 I use my old good 1084 on the analog signal 😋

[fallen summit]

switch your TV to 4:3

if you can

[stuck egret]

that is only for capture purposes

yes I use 4:3

[fallen summit]

oh - I don't know

[stuck egret]

allways

[fallen summit]

that screenshot looks like 16:9

[stuck egret]

yes , was a quick snapshoot

but was curious about that R800 option

and the end seems to be only a fake option , right? 😄

[fallen summit]

yeah turbo-r FGPA version is being worked on - but HRA hasn't released that yet

https://twitter.com/thara1129/

[stuck egret]

sound great!

oh look

thanks for the link mate

[fallen summit]

openMSX is still better 🙂

but that one has support to read carts

[stuck egret]

so , what about the new msx1/msx2 core ?¿

that uses some kind of vg8045/40 roms?¿

do you have same colour issues i show here ?

works nice , the way its works

but a little confuse what is the lasted one

are this one the last?

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/blob/MSX2/releases/MSX1_20230203.rbf

[fallen summit]

color issue?

you mean roadfighter?

not sure if your rom is corrupt

because the progress meter on the right doesn't look right

[stuck egret]

yes extrange , are the link above the lasted core?

or there are another core somewhere?

[fallen summit]

yes but only very limited release

it's a test test core

[gloomy sentinel]

Amiga version was created with love and professionality

[stuck egret]

Auto answer , yes that wrong colours was due the BIOS used , solved using Philips NMS-8250 Rom bios files \o/

[potent abyss]

Only the best

[stuck egret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm5GFDUsECk

[sudden kite]

?

[gloomy sentinel]

yo he visto vídeos tuyos, Amiten.

[fallen summit]

good stream 😄

[stuck egret]

thanks 😊

[coarse ravine]

Nice to hear MSX stuff in Spanish... brings me back to summers reading Micro Mania magazines in Spain 😄

[karmic rover]

https://t.co/T8ZfqHyyDK

[fallen summit]

What the heck is going on here? 🙂

[karmic rover]

you are famous 🙂

[fallen summit]

well I would hope that I have made some impact on the MSX scene

[dusky briar]

https://twitter.com/SnatcherAlpha/status/1667692733769605122

SD-Snatcher (@SnatcherAlpha)

The v3 of the patch for Valis II / MSX2 grew to a full enhancement patch and I have just published it.

You can now enjoy the game play at a much better frame rate/responsiveness.

Download: https://t.co/ouNb5y4IBr
A video of the v3 soundtrack will be published soon.
#MSX #VALIS

Twitter · Jun 11, 2023, 12:38 AM

[potent abyss]

Excellent

[fallen summit]

I wish I could tell you guys what I have here 🙂

[craggy iris]

You can say it. We won't tell anyone 😄

[craggy iris]

If you want to try the new TEST build of MSX, you can download it here https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/raw/MSX2test/releases/MSX1_20230611_test.rbf Everything is different from previous versions. No boot.rom, no loading of roms from MSX computers, but you have to prepare a package with the necessary files. Sample packages can be found here https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/tree/MSX2/tools/CreateMSXpack/MSX/C-BIOS and finally the necessary files for creating predefined MSX models https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/blob/MSX2test/releases/CreateMSXpack.zip

[karmic rover]

Thank you Molekula 🙂

[karmic rover]

Are Slot SCC/SCC+ and mapper type R-type need some fixes to work ?

[craggy iris]

R-type in the next version. SCC/SCC+ yes

[stray reef]

I salute you for your hard work. But I tried to test your new MSX core but I don‘t know how to use it, how does firm ware bios load and what are *.msx files?

[karmic rover]

on the OSD, you have
Load ROM PACK "*.MSX" -> It is rom pack of MSX model (MSX1, MSX2)
Load FW PACK "*.MSX" -> It is FW pack containing FMPAC, Game Master 2 and FDC rom used for floppy of MSX1

you need to use the package https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/blob/MSX2test/releases/CreateMSXpack.zip

it is python script to generate MSX Pack for FW and MSX Model you want (some are presents)

[fallen summit]

@craggy iris thanks for the new version

are there a lot of changes since I last tested it?

[stray reef]

I have unpacked and checked the MSX pack file but I don‘t know what to do with it.

[karmic rover]

It required to have python 3 installed on your computer
and on rom directory you need to put rom files

[fallen summit]

you praise the cowgods and sprinkle holy water on your desk - make 3 pirouettes and jump in the air while yelling 'ni ni ni ni ni'

and then it magically works

[karmic rover]

and execute the script
in MSX/C-BIOS directory you have C-BIOS files already produced if you want to try it

[fallen summit]

yeah cbios can be distributed freely

[karmic rover]

yeah 🙂

[fallen summit]

I can tell you this since I know it's open source and I'm part of that team too 😄

[karmic rover]

some examples of files present on my rom directory

[karmic rover]

great stuff

[fallen summit]

yeah it's been dead

there are still bugs - but we stopped caring 😄

[karmic rover]

with C-Bios is there a way to use floppy even if we need to use retail disk bios ?

[fallen summit]

dos/dos2

if you toss a disk rom in there it should work

but no basic

[stray reef]

What is the difference between “load rom pack” and “load fw pack” in the osd menu?

[karmic rover]

#1056033525922537542 message

If you load "MSX - C-BIOS.MSX" on load rom pack the core will start in MSX 1 mode with C-Bios of MSX1

and for "MSX2 - C-BIOS.MSX" it will be MSX2 mode

[fallen summit]

@karmic rover that only answers half the question 😄

[frigid niche]

So all created .msx should in msx1 folder?

[karmic rover]

I just add an example of my previous comment link above 🙂

@fallen summit we need a good FAQ 🙂

[fallen summit]

hmmmmm

https://vampier.net/MSX/

outdated

[karmic rover]

yes you need to transfert them to MSX1 folder on your MiSTer

[craggy iris]

The uploading of ROM and working with BRAM and SDRAM has been completely revamped. Nothing has remained in its place. In return, it is easy to add new MSX models and subsequently implement further extensions. Errors may appear where they were not before or were removed in the past.

[craggy iris]

It should be added that names are not used at all. The deciding factor is the MD5 hash.

[fallen summit]

"Zakladni funkcnost" 😄

basic functionality

[craggy iris]

Where'd you find that? 😄

[fallen summit]

commit comments

MFRDS ROM jako celek. Potrebuji kvuli flash

I guess you need a flasher

syntax infinity hangs now with the sony dmkii

[craggy iris]

Does anyone have a simple program for testing SCC and SCC+ ?

[fallen summit]

trilotracker would be a good thing to have

it's a 'mod' tracker

this works great 😄

[craggy iris]

Rather, I would need to control each channel in a controlled manner

[fallen summit]

oh - not that I know

[karmic rover]

a music player could be usefull ?

[craggy iris]

Anything that can selectively play channel by channel.

[fallen summit]

trilotracker

or I could write a basic program

SCC basically is writing a waveform - volume and frequency to a bunch of addresses

[craggy iris]

I guess that's the way it's gonna work out. I'm gonna write some test code.

[karmic rover]

Konami's Synthesizer (1986)(Konami)(Japan)(Program)(MSX1)(Konami SCC)

[fallen summit]

eh that has a special dac

https://romdb.vampier.net/index.php?show=565

[craggy iris]

Thanks, but it's a bit cumbersome 🙂 I'll probably stick with the utility I can protest the behavior after each change.

[karmic rover]

ok

[craggy iris]

Simulation looks better than reality

[fallen summit]

Eh 127 is the middle point -127 / +128

And then there is a small discrepancy in the frequency with psg vs scc

Can’t remember the details been a while

[cyan horizon]

Hi! I am trying the CreateMSXpack python program on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and it makes my computer unusable (it captures the mouse and keyboard input, and nothing appears on screen: I have to switch TTY to kill it but even then I have to restart X11 session to regain control).
Maybe I am doing something wrong?

I am simply executing createMSXpack.py

[karmic rover]

Hi, The normal command for Python is "python3 createMSXpack.py"

[cyan horizon]

Ah, that made it, thanks!

[cyan horizon]

Where should the MSX machine definitions go? In /media/fat/games/MSX1 or in /media/fat/games/MSX1/MSX?

[cyan horizon]

Also, where does the FM PACK BIOS go?

How is it loaded?

[karmic rover]

You just needs to put on MSX1 folder and you need to load them on the OSD
After loading it will use for next boots of the core until you change your MSX Pack or FW pack

[cyan horizon]

I was missing the FW-PACK. Now I have FM music too. Thanks!

[karmic rover]

Great !

[cyan horizon]

Gathering the Game Master 2 ROM was not easy.. seems to be missing from the file-hunter BIOS pack..

For me it's not a problem but I hope normal users don't have to do all this when the core is released 😛

[karmic rover]

next step is to produce xml description of MSX 1 and MSX 2 missing 😅

[frigid niche]

Do i need to cooy all of this created file to msx1 folder on mister? Or just c-bios folder with its msx file on it, cart_fw.msx and cart_fw_en.msx to root of msx1 folder? Do i need to copy all other system machine folder to msx1 also?

[karmic rover]

It depends of MSX model you want to use

C-Bios lack of the support Disk support on basic mode for information

[craggy iris]

It's true. It's a signed signal. I've already detected the problem. You can see here that half the signal is clipped. The PSG within the core is an unsigned signal.

[fallen summit]

nice

I once wrote the SCC toys for openMSX

and also made the visualizer and editor

so it brought back memories

[fallen summit]

here is the SCC toy for openMSX

[craggy iris]

MSX2 test release
Fix broken channel2 SCC/SCC+
Add R-Type mapper

[fallen summit]

\o/

megaflashrom doesn't work yet right?

[karmic rover]

When I tried to set it, I have black screen with the last test release

R-Type working again and sound of roms SCC is great 🙂
Still issues to use slot SCC and SCC+ I'm not able to launch snatcher or sd snatcher

[karmic rover]

My black screen is maybe link that CART_FW.xml doesn't have megaflashrom roms

yes with CART_FW_EN.xml when Megaflashrom is set on slot A, Nextor is loaded

[fallen summit]

oh nice

[karmic rover]

This slot will permit or maybe it is already the case to boot on the vhd ?

can I update the CART_FW.xml to add the missing contains ?

[stray reef]

I hope the new core will also support vdp 9958, I hope the space manbow‘s sprite will be improved.

[stray reef]

Does the new msx core also support the koei game sram save?

[stray reef]

What is the difference between CART_FW.msx and CART_FW_EN.msx?

[fallen summit]

did you even look at the SRAM options? 😄

[rain viper]

Is there a particular MSX machine which has most of the features you'd want, and which a pack can be created for? Like the openmsx fantasy machine?

[fallen summit]

that's an MSX2+

this is MSX2

but I assume it won't take too much effort to make it into an MSX2+

maybe a next full release?

[karmic rover]

Cart fw.msx contains fmpac and gamemaster in Japanese the en one is in English.

[karmic rover]

maybe we can rename CART_FW.msx to CART_FW_JP.msx

[karmic rover]

@craggy iris in the game "The Lost World" (floppies games MSX2 FM-PAC Version) with older core (before MSX Packs) and 128KB VRAM set in Advanced Settings. The game stars.
But since the MSX Pack MSX core, I have this message when I tried to launch the game and I checked msxdiag, it shows VRAM 128KB on his side

[low barn]

@karmic rover Edit the Sony XML file and give yourself more RAM: block_count 4 is the default 64kb, 8 is 128kb and 16 is 256kb. Then just re-make the .msx

This also solves the Syntax Infinity, SD Snatcher, Uzix etc (apps/games/demos who need 128kb+).

[karmic rover]

Thanks 🙂 It is kind of hack 😅 normally those games work with 128KB !

[low barn]

Sony XML has default 64kb RAM 🙂

Speaking of Sony F1-XDmk2, the bios/sub/disk ROMs used are actually the same for F1-XD (same SHA). Differences on real HW I think are the floppy drive being belt driven on mk2 and having grey instead red cover part.

https://www.msx.org/wiki/Sony_HB-F1XDmk2

So it appears that also originally NMS 8250 came with 128kB while Sony F1-XD with 64kB RAM

[karmic rover]

Thanks !

I think it was VRAM but it is main RAM. the older core MAIN RAM was 128KB by default 😅
So many rams i'm lost 😭 so no issue

[low barn]

Think MSXDOS2 is kinda broken (or at least I had some issues on 11.06 version of the core). Loading MSXDOS22 rom in slot 1/2 (as I did before to use DOS 2 disks) will make the core going into reboot loop. Figured out it is supported/included with MegaFlashRom instead, will have to check more and also on the new version of the core 🙂

Oh, and if anyone wonders, the CreateMSX script works fine on MiSTer linux, that's how I create my .msx files/modified the .xml to my liking etc

[karmic rover]

Have you made a XML description of NMS 8250 ? If it is not I will try to do it on my side.

[low barn]

no, i just used the ones that come in the package

the only one I really modified (and split in two) was the F1XD. Made one with 128kB and one with 256kB, plus removed the "mk2" part of roms names.

if you want, I can share them lol

[karmic rover]

no need thanks !
but maybe it is better to have NMS 8250 in place F1XD on MSX Pack to support more MSX2 contents

[low barn]

I use both, usually if smth not working on F1XD, i switch to NMS to see if it is the same issue :). That's how I looked up in the RAM issue above

[stray reef]

I opened cart_fw_en.xml inside the cratemsxpack folder. It wasn't just a different language. cart_fw_en.msx has a lot of special system roms.

[karmic rover]

yes there is more elements used by the slot MegaFlashROM.

[stray reef]

If I use cart_fw.msx, I can‘t use megaflash function?

[karmic rover]

yes It is black screen

if you set the slot to megaflashrom

[low barn]

MSXDOS2 works with CART_FW_EN and MegaFlashROM in slot 1. It will boot in MM (MultiMente) GUI, Floppy images would be in drive B. So press, "L" to change the drive, then either use command2.com to go into DOS shell and do whatever you need to, or just directly run the .com files needed from the floppy.

There may be a simpler way, just didn't had the time to read more on MegaFlash/Nestor stuff yet :))

[low barn]

me gusta 😍

[karmic rover]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AcclaimedVictoriousKillifish-size_restricted.gif

[slate echo]

unknow reality work but with lot of scramble screen

[stray reef]

The current ram of the new msx core is 128kb. How much ram do we need?

[karmic rover]

It is enough for most of the MSX2 contents ! My gif is just to respond to TO last message with 768KB for main ram

[low barn]

256KB 😛 That is the maximum for now, unless the extra 512KB from MFR

@karmic rover interesting, SymbOS recognizes only the 512KB MFR ones. If no MFR used, it recognizes the "normal" 256KB I assigned it

[karmic rover]

Yes maybe it could be great to test on another emulator or on real msx to see if it is the correct behavior

[low barn]

I have a real MSX (exactly Sony HitBit F1 XD-mk2 lol), but not other expansions and such. Will see on OpenMSX at some point, though for this i kinda wanna wait for VHD support. It's bit fiddly to strip it down to 720 Kb floppy, and not much fun as it would lack most of stuff

[karmic rover]

ok let us know when you have time to do the test again

[stray reef]

I know that the Main ram needs 512kb or more in the illusion city english game.

[low barn]

Haaaa... Abadia Del Crimen (Abbey of Crime) didn't work before (even with 256 KB) but works now with MFR in slot 1 😄 just hit the autoexec.bas from MM

with 265KB or less it would crash with an error "memory whatever at line 100 smt"

[karmic rover]

Is it not a turbo R game ?

[stray reef]

The original game runs on turbo-R, but this game with language patch runs on 512kb msx2.

[karmic rover]

so it could be work with the patch version

🙂

[fallen summit]

so MFR works now?

[stray reef]

SRAM option does not work, if you select koei in the mapper option, koei game will not run. I think koei sram is not working.

[fallen summit]

that sounds likea bug doesn't it?

[karmic rover]

yes it doesn't seem to have a mapper for koei
wire [26:0] mapper_addr = mem_unmaped ? 27'hDEAD :
mapper == MAPPER_NONE ? 27'(mapper_none_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_RAM ? 27'(mapper_ram_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_LINEAR ? 27'(mapper_linear_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_OFFSET ? 27'(mapper_offset_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_KONAMI ? 27'(mapper_konami_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_KONAMI_SCC ? 27'(mapper_konami_scc_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_FMPAC ? 27'(fmpac_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_MFRSD1 ? 27'(mapper_mfrsd1_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_MFRSD2 ? 27'(mapper_mfrsd2_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_MFRSD3 ? 27'(mapper_mfrsd3_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_ASCII8 ? 27'(mapper_ascii8_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_ASCII16 ? 27'(mapper_ascii16_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_GM2 ? 27'(mapper_gm2_addr) :
mapper == MAPPER_RTYPE ? 27'(mapper_ascii16_addr) :
27'hDEAD ;
R-Type was readded on the last update

[fallen summit]

good - no one plays those games anyway

no good translations and I don't read Japanese

[gloomy sentinel]

I want to have time today for test this

It looks incredible good

[fallen summit]

https://tenor.com/view/goemaniaco-gif-25621166

[gloomy sentinel]

Does this support msx2+ or not yet?

[karmic rover]

nop

[craggy iris]

KOEI and other mappers containing SRAM are awaiting reimplementation. I have finished the preparation for SRAM storage.

[gloomy sentinel]

could you send me the MFR firmware ?

[cyan horizon]

Does Snatcher music sound right to you guys?

With latest version

[craggy iris]

https://www.msxcartridgeshop.com/ flash / openMSX link

[gloomy sentinel]

Me encanta el core este

Da sensación

[fallen summit]

@gloomy sentinel what is that in English?

https://www.msxcartridgeshop.com/bin/mfrsd.zip

[fallen summit]

https://twitter.com/x1junkojisan/status/1669236644015378437/photo/1

ジャンクおじさん（自称） (@x1junkojisan)

天然の出土品です🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

Twitter · Jun 15, 2023, 6:53 AM

......... RIP

[low barn]

murderers 😥

[gloomy sentinel]

IK PRAAT NIET ENGELS ANYMORE ---- what a mixture...

[south kiln]

Where did he dig it up from? Hiroshima?😱

[low barn]

Had to go and pet mine, to assure it is safe and sound and to forget what i saw 😄

[karmic rover]

Panasonic FS-A1

[low barn]

you missed the FDC (floppy disk rom). Counter-checking with OpenMSX, think it is this. Will try to generate an xml after i identify it

[karmic rover]

it doesn't seem to have fdc in the slot map
https://www.msx.org/wiki/Panasonic_FS-A1

[low barn]

right. it is very accurate your image, just reduces the usability on standard

[karmic rover]

the new core of yesterday you can add an FDC on a slot A like MSX1 for MSX2 that doesn't have FDC

I will try to make https://www.msx.org/wiki/Panasonic_FS-A1F (with disk rom and better UI)

[low barn]

LOL. I was still on 13th of June version, you're absolutely right :))) Now on last ver 😄

[fallen summit]

I will join the fun tonight - got a bunch of meetings right now

If you guys give me your packages I'll host them

I'll also update the documentation this weekend

[karmic rover]

it doesn't seem to work correctly ... the size of MSX pack is bigger than FS A1 maybe the core doesn't support it
I share the xml just in case if you see issue in it

[gloomy sentinel]

I love this core

[craggy iris]

Please elaborate. What's wrong?

[karmic rover]

msxdiag shows the correct info but when it tried to launch the cockpit
Normally I would have this

but in the core I have that so it seems stuck

the size of the MSX pack is 131,8KB

[craggy iris]

And what model would that be?

[karmic rover]

It is this one https://www.msx.org/wiki/Panasonic_FS-A1F

but maybe my xml description is not correct

[fallen summit]

oh fun .... removing the disk rom image from the MFR is not possible

😄

you're stuck with having it autoboot to multi-mente

[craggy iris]

F3 Erase ROM disk rom not work ?

[fallen summit]

Nope

Most likely because it is in a pack?

[fallen summit]

@craggy iris we are treading into an area where the inter compatibility problems with MSX models is becoming a thing. For the final release we should settle on a MSX machine they people should use (in documentation only for obvious reasons) and just pick the most compatible MSX model with the implementation

Be it a real or a fantasy machine is not really relevant since the OCM is a fantasy concoction too

I am really enjoying the core like it is now 🙂

[karmic rover]

Sony HB-F1

[naive dagger]

I like this chonker

With (mild) turbo possible

[gloomy sentinel]

those are very beautiful

I had this model

cyberpunk computer

it has a 6 mhz mode, but it breaks everything

[rain viper]

If you settle on a single machine, are there machines that do both PALand NTSC?

[naive dagger]

This one has better build quality irl

MSX has so many weird arrow key designs

[stuck valve]

Panasonic FS-A1F use Toshiba's FDC. It seems not working in this core. Many Philips and Sony machines use WD FDC. It works fine.

[stuck valve]

This stuck is caused by Toshiba's FDC. I have the same symptom.

[karmic rover]

Ok thank you !
Have you made others MSX model ?

[stuck valve]

Not much. It's Daewoo CPC-400S, Panasonic FS-A1F, FS-A1, some Sony MSX2s.

I will make some Korean MSX1 this weekend.

[karmic rover]

Great do not hesitate to share or post your XML files on GitHub

[stuck valve]

Okay, i'll do

[karmic rover]

I have post some on my side 🙂

I tried the awx53ii (msx2 Arabic one) but it hangs before to show the MSX logo

[stuck valve]

I'm familiar with Arabic MSX but that symptom is interesting.

[karmic rover]

I can share the XML file in one or two hours if you want to check

[karmic rover]

I used Mame bios roms I couldn't find all bios roms for openmsx

[stuck valve]

When I comment out FDC on AX350II XML, it seems booting well without disk drive.

[karmic rover]

great finding

confirmed also on my side

[stuck valve]

Is there any reference guide to make keyboard layout in XML?

[fallen summit]

@craggy iris ^^ I've suspected the FDC to be a point of failure - I think different MSX models expect different FDC controllers/hardware

see my post earlier about " inter compatibility problems "

so I think we should stick to just an MSX like machine - like OCM

or expand the FDC controllers ... which I don't think will be sustainable

not saying to duplicate the OCM 😄

[karmic rover]

for the moment there is no documentation of how make the xml

[craggy iris]

I think the core is too young to draw such conclusions. Having more options may not be such a problem.

[fallen summit]

oh

[craggy iris]

keyboard layout is a conversion table between ps2 keyboard and PPI port of MSX computer. The ScanCode received from the keyboard is converted to rows and columns connected to the PPI using this 512 byte table. So to define the layout, you need to know the HW connection of the keyboard. A higher nibble is a row and a lower nibble is a column.

[fallen summit]

well FDC behaves differently on different models

[fallen summit]

that's why I brought it up

the good old keyboard matrix 🙂

[craggy iris]

As Vampier writes here, some MSX models use a different floppy drive controller. At this time, Western digital WDxxxx controllers are supported. Support for other controllers needs to be worked out, and it won't be for a while in this case. You can find out what type of controller is used for a particular model from the OpemMSX definition. If the <WD2793 id="Memory Mapped FDC"> element is in the XML definition, success can be expected. If it is as in this case it is not worth even trying. It will lead to a deadlock. <TC8566AF id="Memory Mapped FDC">

[karmic rover]

Thank you for the information to identify it on OpenMSX and your time on this project 🙂

[rain viper]

Something I've wondered for a bit:

When this core was starting, the question came up of what ROM to use. The machine is a Philips, but I found the ROM as a Goldstar, and as a ROM for other seemingly unrelated machines. Is this ROM actually from some sort of reference design that a bunch of companies used as is?

[fallen summit]

Well the ROMs you are referring to are BIOS files

And with all different manufacturers doing their MSX lines things got a bit weird

[stray reef]

Can you make multi-slot available instead of 2 slots in the new msx core? I want to use megflash rom and fmpac rom at the same time while running the game rom.

[craggy iris]

That doesn’t make sense to me. That’s what the megaflash ROM is for. It might be possible to load the ROM content from OSD and “flash” it into the megaflash rom. At the same time, loading the ROM directly from OSD could cause problems associated with selecting the mapper. Therefore, I think this cartridge should be used as the author suggests. Adding another slot is HW limited and the core design is for a maximum of two external slots. However, there are MSX models that have FM internally. The core is ready for it, I just haven’t gotten around to preparing the XML definition.

[stray reef]

Zanac ex ehnaced rom needs megaflashrom SD to play double psg sound and use fm pac music.

[craggy iris]

Then you need to place the Zanac ROM on a floppy disk or SD card and "flash" it to MegaFlash. After rebooting MSX, the ROM will boot from MegaFlash. I haven't added PSG to MegaFlash yet, but I don't see a problem in adding it in the next version.

[stray reef]

Thank you. I want to use Daewoo cpc-300 bios, but I will move on to the tutor screen as shown in the screen below. Is there any way to skip this screen permanently?

[craggy iris]

Not yet, in my opinion. You need to store the CMOS RAM from the RTC where the skipping information is stored. I haven't dealt with this yet. I have a low priority plan to do this.

[sour turret]

MSX noob here. How do I start troubleshooting when a game doesn't work? Wanted to try Aleste 2. I got the Nosferatu vhd from 2023-02-25 and Aleste 2 plays music but only shows me a black screen. Other games I tried so far are working. I'm using hdmi vsync_adjust 0 can this be a problem with some games?

[karmic rover]

You use rom game or disk game ?

[sour turret]

Im loading a vhd

[karmic rover]

I understand you using the OCM MSX Core and loading the VHD
But in the VHD, you load a game on Sofarun I presume Is it a Rom or a DSK ?

[fallen summit]

Oh those damn MSX vampires ….

[sour turret]

Must be a distant or close relative of you 😎

I'll check what Im loading.

It's a .rom file it says Aleste 2 Theme - WYZ (mirrored) rom

[karmic rover]

if it is named Theme maybe it is just the music 😅
originally it is a floppy game and a hack version existed the size rom is 2MB to store the 3 floppies of the game

[sour turret]

Okay no I feel silly 😅

[violet knoll]

Last time i try, aleste 2 Works And it was in the msx2 files

[karmic rover]

in this VHD normally the game will be named "A/Aleste 2 - Compile (1989) [ROM Version] [v8 by Ricbit] "

[violet knoll]

@sour turret Do you have the latest vhd version?

[sour turret]

Ah thanks! Now I understand, I somehow went into the MSX folder in the vhd and then forgot that a msx2 folder even exists

It should be hopefully be the newest. It's from 25. February this year. It's the newest I found

[violet knoll]

That's right

[karmic rover]

it took me times to understand how to save on metal gear with the new core 😅

[fallen summit]

Oh boy - it was a mistake adding that one

[fallen summit]

yes that VHD is the latest - it will also be the last one

[fallen summit]

New MSX game by @HRA https://twitter.com/thara1129/status/1670056569680322561?t=M5hvFon7tLd3ggJQIkmh5A&s=19

HRA! (@thara1129)

https://t.co/SCWkG9vDlU

RabbitAdventure体験版リリース！！
是非、遊んでみて下さい。

ROMイメージが欲しい人はこちら。
https://t.co/hnPLoE9iax

#MSX

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Twitter · Jun 17, 2023, 1:11 PM

[craggy iris]

New version on GitHub

MSX2 test release
Update of createMSXpack
Added new MSX modles
Added ASCII16 SRAM2 mapper
Added ASCII16 SRAM8 mapper
Added Second PSG to MFRSD

[karmic rover]

thank you Molekula 🙂

Maybe an interesting tool for VRAM
https://twitter.com/aoineko_fr/status/1670409707213803521

Gui Blanc (@aoineko_fr)

1/2

Hello #MSX fans!
I need your help to my research on the minimum VRAM access times of our MSXs.
Just run a program (#VATT) on your real MSX and send me a screenshot of the result.
The program is available:

• ROM: https://t.co/dIIbp66m9s
• DOS: https://t.co/UZBrWngRte

...

Twitter · Jun 18, 2023, 12:34 PM

[fallen summit]

you're on a roll 😄

[karmic rover]

I have tested ASCII16 SRAM2 mapper for Hydlide II.
I manage to generate the SRAM save file.
For the SRAM to be reconiszed and load in game. we need to create a new character on start screen and load the SRAM and load last save game to retreive previous saved character.
The SRAM is may not loaded automatically I presume and also if I tried to load the SRAM on start screen the saved character is not proposed.

[craggy iris]

I'll check. I am working on autoload after uploading ROM/FW/MSX. In the final version, SRAM should store extra for ROM and for expansion cartridges (fmpac, Gm2 etc..) and also according to slot position.

[cyan horizon]

Thanks for the continued work on this, @craggy iris
It's becoming my favorite 8bit computer core, no doubt 😄

Today's release doesn't have a new .RBF, right?

I mean, it's a firmware pack only release, right?

[craggy iris]

Oh, commit error. Of course a new rbf is needed.

moment. I'll correct

[cyan horizon]

Ah! Great! 😄

[craggy iris]

Done

[cyan horizon]

@craggy iris Maybe I am looking at the wrong repo, but I can't see a new RBF in https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/tree/MSX2test/releases

[craggy iris]

@cyan horizon What now ?

[cyan horizon]

Yes, now it's there! Thanks a lot!
BTW, what's with fc80han.rom? It's not on file-hunter and even google doesn't return a single result for that file

[slate echo]

It’s ok now

Hey does not found this one too

[craggy iris]

I don't know. I'm not the author of these models.

[cyan horizon]

Hmm... @fallen summit Do you know what's goin on with fc80han.rom?

Also @craggy iris SCC+ sound in Snatcher doesn't seem to work. Maybe that's known?

[craggy iris]

@cyan horizon SD snatcher or snatcher ?

[cyan horizon]

Snatcher

[karmic rover]

on my side I have music sound on Snatcher (jp version) mode SCC+
What is the version of Snatcher are you using ?

[cyan horizon]

I have the HDD install by Caetano (it's translated to english too)

[karmic rover]

it is the version with 4 floppies and it could be used with floppy or installed on hdd ?

with this version on floppy mode I have sound also on SCC+

[karmic rover]

However the SCC mode (Caetano version) is kind of weird less percusion than PSG version available in this title.
The JP version on SCC mode is way better.

also on floppy mode with Caetano version you need to choose the slot (0 to 3) for SCC/SCC+ module have you set it correctly ?

[stuck valve]

fc80 has goldstar hangul bios 1.0. and fc80u has goldstar hangul bios 2.0. except hangul bios version, these two models are same machine.

Here is fc8-han.rom

[karmic rover]

@craggy iris I tried to build Hitachi MB-H3
It is MSX2 with 64KB VRAM but the XML file doesn't permit to set the amount of VRAM if it is different of 128KB VRAM.
https://www.msx.org/wiki/Hitachi_MB-H3

[craggy iris]

That is a correct observation. There is no support for it.

[karmic rover]

Checking the last commit with SRAM updated and it is working now.
I have my character previously created on the list on title screen of Hydlide II
Thank you 👍

[craggy iris]

MSX2 test release
SRAM upload fix
Added automatic loading of SRAM after filling ROM
Added ASCII8 SRAM, KOEI, Wizardi mappers

[craggy iris]

I have reached a state where I have implemented everything I wanted. Now, I would like to focus on bug fixing and addressing incompatibilities. Therefore, I kindly request those who are interested in testing to report any errors on GitHub, along with a description of what exactly is not working. This includes specifying the MSX model and the specific software version, preferably with the SHA1 of the corresponding file. Reports containing only the software name are entirely insufficient. This would greatly simplify the process of identifying the bug. For verification and functionality comparison, I use openMSX. If an error is found in openMSX, I no longer search for it in the core. The reason being that I do not have any real hardware available to verify whether it is an emulation or software error. Regarding new extensions, I welcome suggestions that are within my capabilities and have a higher demand from interested users. Feel free to vote on it 🙂

[stuck valve]

Regarding the new extensions, Support of MSX Music (FM) as bios will be appreciated. 😊

[craggy iris]

Please link to the wiki for exactly what this is about.

[stuck valve]

I'll find out the wiki for that. But it takes time. In the meanwhile, Let me explain more.
Many MSX2 users mod their hardware to pseudo-MSX2+.
It's changing VDP9938 to VDP9958 and put FM-PAC inside their MSX2 computer.
In theory, if we add panasonic fs-a1fx's msx music bios and FM-PAC HW to MSX2 computer, then it's working like FM-PAC inside.

Current MSX1 FPGA core has FM-PAC HW. If createMSXPack support FMPAC as bios like FDC did, then core can detect if their is FMPAC inside bios and enables FM PAC HW.

Then we can use SLOT A and SLOT B freely.
This is just my idea.

[fallen summit]

MSX2+ feature only (not all msx2+ models though)

And turbo-r

[stuck valve]

I agree your opinion. I just thought it's easily doable in this core. But nevermind!

[fallen summit]

The Panasonic fs-A1fx didn’t have MSX music 😉 I got one

Yes it a nice thing to have I agree

[stuck valve]

Sorry, it's fs-a1wx

[fallen summit]

Yup that one has it

Also a nice machine

@craggy iris MSX Audio/music is a nice thing to have. But if you plan the implement msx2+ then it will be included anyway

@stuck valve the sram part isn’t included with MSX audio right?

[stuck valve]

Correct

Just FM

[karmic rover]

@craggy iris will you accept to move this old ticket on MiSTer-Devel issues list ?
https://github.com/tdlabac/MSX1_MiSTer/issues/25

[fallen summit]

thanks @stuck valve i was too lazy to look it up myself - and my memory is getting a bit hazy now that I haven't looked into it for a few years

[craggy iris]

yes

[craggy iris]

Okay. I was counting on the internal OPLL. It will be a minor modification to the MSX package creation plus a bit of logic inside the core.

[frigid niche]

Has anyone tried manbow 2?

[karmic rover]

yes it works

[frigid niche]

Thanks, gonna try it while get home

[craggy iris]

I intend to roll out https://www.msx.org/wiki/Sony_HB-F1XV
Is that a good option ?

[fallen summit]

that's an MSX2+

that would requre a new VDP and probably a switch for 3.58/7mhz

oh nevermind this one only could be 7mhz with a hardware mod

the panasonic fs-a1wsx would be nice too (has 7mhz boost)

@craggy iris just a heads up - computer models mostly had a switch to disable the internal software

the nms8220 didn't and you had to hold ESC to bypass it (or just remove the ROM)

[craggy iris]

This should be solved via the OSD menu. As soon as I come across it somewhere I will add it as an option to the XML definition. This will solve the HW switch and the state remembering.

[craggy iris]

I have a feeling this model has a Toshiba FDC controller. I don't have it available at the moment.

[fallen summit]

Don't you just love the MSX 'standard' 😉

[fallen summit]

standards are great - we have so many to chose from 😄

[honest fractal]

If you want star msx2+ implementation and don´t have Toshiba FDC controller the Sony HB-F1XV or Sony HB-F1XDJ are a good for start!lack 7mhz z80 but is a good model of msx2+

testing the new cores, all seens work very well!excelente work!very thanks!

[fallen summit]

Yup / I am also very happy with the implementation as well

[karmic rover]

if someone have the time to test the intro of Dragon Slayer the Legend of Heroes ? The text of the intro is really slow to be displayed and the music finished before the end of the intro. I have the same behavior on PSG mode or FM PAC mode.

[light panther]

I have the same behaviour here. Strangely the text speeds up once the music is finished.

[stray reef]

@craggy iris Hydlide 3 - The Space Memories

sram save is not working.

[rain viper]

What is the maximally useful for most gamers' purposes MSX model that is supported?

[stuck valve]

That is the Sony's final MSX2+ computer and I believe it's good choice.

[fallen summit]

true MSX2+ have 7mhz functionality

[karmic rover]

Thank you for your test I will opened an issue.

[karmic rover]

which version of Hydlide 3 are you using I will try it also on my side ?

[fallen summit]

Version and mapper

[karmic rover]

yes also the mapper is important

Xanadu (MSX2 floppy version) asked for a drive B.

I need to check the manual if it is normal 🙂

[fallen summit]

Use CTRL when booting?

[karmic rover]

I will check after work 🙂

[stray reef]

https://eagleforce.tistory.com/m/5376

[karmic rover]

Thank you !
Is it a fan translation or a retail version ? What is the issue you have ? The save file is not created or the sram is not loaded ?

[stray reef]

It's fan translation version. The save file is not created.

[karmic rover]

On retail version, is the save created ?

[stray reef]

The same is true. Maybe it‘s because I don’t know how to save, but I know that after sleeping in an inn in the game, it‘s automatically saved in sram.

[stray reef]

Who knows how to save SRAM in the new MSX core? I look forward to hearing from those who have successfully saved in HYDLIDE 3.

[karmic rover]

in the OSD you have Save SRAM option if you choose a mapper who permit to save on SRAM

also it is important to set the amount of SRAM in some cases it is better to set the amount like War of the dead game

I will check after work for Hydlide 3 if I managed something

[karmic rover]

https://romdb.vampier.net/index.php?show=463 (the mapper is the same as the goodmsx version)

When you choose mappe ASCII8 you need to set SRAM Size to something different to auto to have SRAM Save on the OSD

i choose 8Kb for the size I go to the inn and save sram on the osd
the save was created but after restart the core and the game the character is not on this list
I will check the manual to see if it is really on the Inn to make the save and check if I can find 8kB is the good amount of SRAM

[karmic rover]

I checked the manual it can save with FMPAC but I don't understand how to do it on the core sorry

[frigid niche]

Anyway to save sd snatcher

?

[karmic rover]

SD Snatcher you need to use a user disk to save

You could create disk and format it on MS DOS of the MSX

I can share mine if needed

[frigid niche]

Thanks found how to save ingame press f3 and insert user disk, thanks for the hint.. Msx noob here..

[karmic rover]

it is a computer the manual game is important

[karmic rover]

WIth CTRL hold during the boot, it set only drive A !

[fallen summit]

Yup

[craggy iris]

Hey. Hey. New version. Need to create new MSX packages using createMSXpack. Who can properly test Sony_HB-F1XV ? There are new parts that have not been in the core yet.

[karmic rover]

MSX Diag show this 🙂

Burai and Twinkle Star start to show kanji before it was blank rectangle

and MSX MUSIC works without FM Pac 🙂

F1 Spirit 3D Special (i presume because it is still the VDP of MSX2)

[cyan horizon]

Do you guys know where to find '800han.rom', v20gbios.rom, v20sbios.rom, v20fbios.rom and cps-400s_hangul1.rom?
They seem to be missing from file-hunter and from any results in google, as if the files didn't exist anywhere, have these been dumped?

[karmic rover]

v20xbios.rom could be found on Mame

[craggy iris]

FMPAC has the ability to store SRAM only on a modified main MiSTer. The only thing that can be saved now is SRAM bound to a loaded ROM and a mapper that supports SRAM. The automatic SRAM size selection does not work. Again there is no way to detect it without external support. On FMPAC the SRAM content can be saved to disk

[karmic rover]

Thank you I will try it.
So after go to inn on Hydlide 3 with FMPAC set in slotA I can reset & detach rom cartrige It keeps information on SRAM of the FM PAC and I just need to save PAC to disk ?

[craggy iris]

That's a good question. Actually, off the top of my head, I don't know. Rebooting itself leaves all the memory in place, but releasing the ROM maybe causes a reload of everything.

[karmic rover]

we need to detach rom cartrige to access FM PAC menu I will test it and give you the result

it works 🙂

Thank you Molekula for the hint
@stray reef so to save in Hydlide 3
You need to set FM PAC on slot A
Mount A blank disk
Load the rom Hydle 3 go to the inn
Reset & detach rom cartridge
in basic type "Call fmpac"
go to copy
PAC -> DISK
Set a name for the file

reboot your mister

to load the save
You need to set FM PAC on slot A
Mount A disk with the save done previously
call fm pac
go to copy
DISK -> PAC
Select the file name you used to save

load the rom hydlide 3 and normally you will have your character name on game start

[stray reef]

Thank you But it‘s too complicated. I want to find a convenient way.

[stray reef]

Do you have plans to support sram saves on FM pac in other slots while running game rom?

[craggy iris]

As I wrote above. The main MiSTer must be modified. I have a version that handles two FM-PACs in two slots and can store SRAM for each slot separately. The current version only stores the SRAM associated with a specific ROM.

[cyan horizon]

@karmic rover Can you please tell me how do you succesfully load Snatcher HDD-installed with correct sound? So far, I set SLOT A to "MegaFlasROM SCC+ SD", SLOT B "empty", then I load my VHD with Snatcher on it, then on MultiMente I navigate to unit B, then load the game.
The game loads but sound is broken: only a high-pitched audio can be heard 😦

[craggy iris]

I don't think it can work. When the ROM is released, the SRAM is initialized. Surely a dump of SRAM containing some user data will be stored on disk ?

[karmic rover]

I can share my disk to see the content ?

[stray reef]

Do you mean you‘ll be modifying it on Mister main when the public version of the new core comes out later?

[craggy iris]

if (rom_eject) begin
ioctl_size[2] <= 0;
ioctl_size[3] <= 0;
load <= 1; <<<<<<< This moment reload all RAM content
end

My idea is that if the existing MSX project can be replaced, I will send a Merge request to modify main. This is because modifications in main are tied to the computer name.

[karmic rover]

I didn't tried HDD installed of Snatcher with Megaflashrom SCC+.
But the english version also existed on floppy and can be launch without installed it on HDD
In this case I used Slot SCC+ with those floppies and run the game and I have SCC+ sound.
To be able to have 0- Run Game in the screenshot below the Main Ram needs to be above 128KB (256KB)

[craggy iris]

Do you have a link somewhere to a vhd containing everything needed to run OCM MSX ? I just need the minimalist version without added games and commercial SW. Thanks

[karmic rover]

ok

[cyan horizon]

Ah, ok. How can Main Ram be set to 256KB?

I don't see any RAM options. What MSX model did you use?

[craggy iris]

I'll try to work around it. Do a reset, but don't allow the ROM to boot.

[karmic rover]

We have this tool on MSX Core.
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX_MiSTer/blob/master/README.md#notes-about-sd-card
you can create a VHD and juste launch the script to populate the vhd mounted

[karmic rover]

sent a PM

[fallen summit]

the OCM vhd contains the bios files etc.

I had a clean vhd that I tried to upload to an 'org' achive but it was rejected

not sure why

[karmic rover]

thank you !

[stray reef]

main ram 512kb possible?

[karmic rover]

I don't know with the current core

[stray reef]

turbo-R gt is 512kb. I hope it‘s possible in the new msx core.

[karmic rover]

With the new model Sony_HB-F1XV and the last release, we are stuck at this screen with MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD.
It works for other models with last release

[frigid niche]

and also SD snatcher dsk wont boot on new core, play fine on old core

[karmic rover]

what is the behavior you have ? Is it black screen ?

The model Sony_HB-F1XV have only 64KB of main ram so it is not enough to play SD Snatcher

[frigid niche]

yes black screen

[karmic rover]

if you try with Philips_NMS_8250.MSX normally it will work with the last core

[frigid niche]

yes i use that model on older core.. so ill stick to that model..

[stray reef]

I desperately hope that Panasonic WSX will also be added to the machine xml of the new core.

[stuck valve]

For SPC-800, you can find it on http://bluemsx.msxblue.com/resource.html

CPC-400S rom is also there.

[cyan horizon]

The 800han.rom file there is not the one needed by CreateMSXpack:

Not found ROM 0 SHA1:1', '800han.rom', '1e7616261a203580c1044205ad8766d104f1d874'

[stuck valve]

You mean sha1sum is incorrect?

[cyan horizon]

That's what python3 createMSXpack.py says, yes

The same problem is present for the Canon V20 BIOS:

Not found ROM 0 SHA1:1', 'v20gbios.rom', 'd67be6d7d56
Not found ROM 0 SHA1:1', 'v20sbios.rom', '9fb289ea5c1
Not found ROM 0 SHA1:1', 'v20fbios.rom', 'd99eebded5d

[karmic rover]

They are present in mame
/* MSX - Canon V-20F */

ROM_START(canonv20f)
ROM_REGION(0x8000, "mainrom", 0)
ROM_LOAD("v20fbios.rom", 0x0000, 0x8000, BAD_DUMP CRC(e0e894b7) SHA1(d99eebded5db5fce1e072d08e642c0909bc7efdd)) // need verification
ROM_END

/* MSX - Canon V-20G */

ROM_START(canonv20g)
ROM_REGION(0x8000, "mainrom", 0)
ROM_LOAD("v20gbios.rom", 0x0000, 0x8000, BAD_DUMP CRC(d6e704ad) SHA1(d67be6d7d56d7229418f4e122f2ec27990db7d19)) // need verification
ROM_END

/* MSX - Canon V-20S */

ROM_START(canonv20s)
ROM_REGION(0x8000, "mainrom", 0)
ROM_LOAD("v20sbios.rom", 0x0000, 0x8000, BAD_DUMP CRC(c72b186e) SHA1(9fb289ea5c11d497ee00703f64e82575d1c59923)) // need verification
ROM_END

[stuck valve]

Okay, actually I created XML using physically dumped SPC-800 rom. I'll check what is difference between two roms.

[frigid niche]

scroll up, someone share it.. my bad, its fc800han.rom

[craggy iris]

Corrected. Will be in the next build. It's already in Git.

I also modified the behavior for unload ROM

[karmic rover]

Thanks for those quick fixes. I will test it tomorrow!

[stuck valve]

@craggy iris I confimed internal OPLL working. For my test, I made the machine like fs-a1f+opll+wd fdc. 😊

[stuck valve]

I found the difference between my 800han.rom and bluemsx's 800han.rom. My 800han.rom has 8kb padding. I'll update SPC-800.XML to use bluemsx's 800han.rom.

[fallen summit]

I would use the openMSX roms as a base

we've put a massive amount of time and effort into them that they are a 1:1 true dump

including all variations

[stuck valve]

@fallen summit I see. When I create machine's XML, first I'll use openMSX's rom dump.

[fallen summit]

let me message you the link with the official system roms

[stuck valve]

Please... Thank you

[karmic rover]

I need to update one for canon !

[craggy iris]

If the XML definition says that the ROM should be 2 blocks (16kB) in size and a smaller ROM is found, it is automatically aligned to the desired size. It is filled with the value 0xFF

[stuck valve]

Yes, you alrealdy told me. But I forgot to change that one, SPC-800.

FC-80 adn 80U was changed to original 8kb rom.

[craggy iris]

HI.

New release 20230621
Enhancements: Unload ROM without reload RAM
Enhancements: Update Video proccesor from OCM v3.9.2 [ALPHA9]
Compatibility: Modify SPC-800 machine config
BUG: Repair of halnote mapper. Combine SONY HB-HB-F1xv + MegaflashROM remained stuck during startup.
BUG: Incorrect sending of ROM size for the device.
BUG: Enable CAS playback only after CAS is loaded. Isue #18

[cyan horizon]

Issue #18 should be reopen, Snatcher is missing most of the instruments in the soundtrack, this is how the intro should sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNdTjeG0Hcw

In fact, it sounds like that when the game is run from floppies.

[stray reef]

Thank you. However, there was an error in cpc-400s bios. I looked for cps-400s_kanji.rom but all the files I got get the same error. Don‘t you have a solution?

[frigid niche]

@stray reef pm me ill send it

[stray reef]

Thank you. 👍

[fallen summit]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/tree/MSX2test/releases

[fallen summit]

yeah pin request sent

question: has anyone been able to boot with a vhd yet?

[fallen summit]

Thanks @kind robin 🙂

the only way I can see a VHD (when I use my existing ones) is to 'call fdisk' in basic - delete partition - make partition

then when I try to copy over the disk image from the MFR to b: the screenshot above happens

[craggy iris]

If I compare the behavior on MiSTer and OpenMSX the sound is the same. Same extension and same computer model. Whereas your comparison is against a different combination of HW. Is the problem in the emulation or in the game ? I don't know.

[craggy iris]

How big an image are you using ? I'm testing on a relatively small disk (8M)

[light panther]

I've only tried the one I have for the other MSX core and I get the same error as you. I've tried making a new VHD but I don't know much about MSX so got a bit stuck...

[craggy iris]

I'm not sure about the compatibility between VHD for MSX (ocm) and VHD for MegaFlashROM. My findings are that VHD for MSX(ocm) can be mounted in Windows as a virtual disk, but I have a problem in Linux. With VHD for MegaFlashROM I have it exactly the opposite. That's why I've asked here for an already created minimalist VHD for MSX(ocm). I failed to create a VHD for MSX(OCM) according to the documentation and put it off for sometime.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

[light panther]

Thank you for explaining

[fallen summit]

8mb as well

[craggy iris]

My workflow
dd if=/dev/zero ibs=1M count=8 | tr "\000" "\377" > 8m.vhd
Mount VHD via OSD (8m.vhd)
set extension MFRSD
reset
exit mm
run basic
call fdisk
Key: 1, 2, 1, F, y
wait format and reset
select all files (space)
Copy b:
alternative:
reboot and hold key UP
F3 and Y (erase)
reboot.
Now disk A is my 8m.vhd

Taken from your video 😄

Or run openMSX with MFRSD extension. Do these steps and then take the disk image from the disk and rename it to VHD (c:\Users\tomas\OneDrive\Documents\openMSX\persistent\MegaFlashROM_SCC+_SD\untitled1\SDcard1.sdc)

[fallen summit]

does it now auto defaults to one drive

christ ... glad I moved away from Microsucks

[stuck valve]

@craggy iris will you implement MSX-JE in the Sony HB-F1V? If this is not focus this time, I'll not test Kanji input.

[karmic rover]

I didn't test the last release but the wordprocessor dsk packaged with Hb f1v said msx-je is not present on the previous release. It could be a good test.

[stray reef]

Is it possible to use the right keypad? I feel very uncomfortable when I play koei simulation game. Is it possible to map the right keypad?

[stuck valve]

Same symptom here.

[craggy iris]

Please what specific software can I test with. MSX-JE should work, but I added it in blindly just based on "how it should behave".

[stuck valve]

On bluemsx resource page, there is hb-f1v utility disk (it's 4 disks set). You need to boot hb-f1v with disk#3. It should run wordprocessor with MSX-JE but stucks when reading disk.

http://bluemsx.msxblue.com/resource.html

HB-F1XV

[craggy iris]

Thank you. Thank you. I'll test it when I get home.

[stuck valve]

This tool "MegaReport" is quite useful. When I run HB-F1XV on openMSX, it shows "MSX-KANJI : FOUND" and "MSX-JIS : FOUND"

But on MSX FPGA core, it shows like below.

[fallen summit]

https://www.tiny-yarou.com/slotchecker.html

[stuck valve]

With slotchecker tool, it shows the same slot map

Same result on both openMSX and MSX1 core

[fallen summit]

looking how to automate making a disk image on debian without using openMSX to create a partition and format to fat16

you would think it's easy

well apperently it's not

[violet knoll]

I have to thank the good soul that created the Pack, Mister MSX BIOS in the blessed archive, and the core keeps getting better thanks for the great work @craggy iris

[fallen summit]

I'll probably will included it in my webpage

I just need someone to sent me the latest and greatest

[violet knoll]

It will help a lot, but I think it's better to put it when you already have all the msx versions that will be supported

[slate echo]

@stuck valve it is for msx2 and up

[cyan horizon]

Does somebody know what configuration would allow Snatcher to work with correct sound on this core using the english HDD install?
I have already tried many MSX2 models, all with MegaFlashROM SCC+ in SLOT A, and sound seems to be broken in all of them.
I even opened an issue for this:
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/issues/18
But it seems Snatcher HDD also has wrong sound with MegaFlashROM SCC+ in OpenMSX, which could be caused by the emulator, or the game, etc.
Any ideas?

Ah, could be this!
https://www.msx.org/wiki/MegaFlashROM_SCC%2B_SD_compatibility_settings

[craggy iris]

New release 20230623
Improvements: Add SRAM halnote mapper
Bug: halnote mapper
Bug: Kanji driver fix
Need to recreate MSX PACK. Specially SONY-HB-F1XV

The MSX-JE is now operational. But after uploading the wordprocessor, there is a problem with VDP. Probably a problem with image synchronization.

[marble barn]

Great progress! Would it be worth adding your MSX core to unstable nightlies now so new version are automatically built and can be grabbed?

[stuck valve]

Thank you for the quick implementation!!
I tested the kanji input shortly.
It works well

[stuck valve]

Also Sony HB-F1XV's word processor works. I think the problem is not on vdp side. There is an issue on intelaced output thru HDMI. intelaced output thru CRT is fine.

[stray reef]

Does not move from the Daewoo X-II cpc-400s Bios to the Basic screen. Please check.

[stuck valve]

It's the known issue because of non-supported FDC controller. It will not fix soon.

[craggy iris]

Perhaps poorly worded. It's a problem between VDP and the framework in charge of HDMI

[stuck valve]

@craggy iris you can easily swith to interlaced mode using basic command on MSX2
screen 0,0,1,1,0,1

Last(6th digit) 1 means interlaced.

[slate echo]

does megareport exist in a rom file ? or can someone make a bootable floppy from it please thanks in advance

[stuck valve]

You can find the disk version on file-hunter.com.

[fallen summit]

It’s even easier with the vdp(10) registers

[fallen summit]

https://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/general-discussion/syntax-infinity-on-the-ocm-and-vdp10255-on-the-ocm#comment-425369

[fallen summit]

@stuck valve unknown reality runs on the core but some screens are just really messed up - due to the interleave screen mode

[karmic rover]

The title screen of this game have also the same behaviour
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/issues/15

[fallen summit]

@karmic rover can you PM me the pack you have?

[stray reef]

I want the game rom load menu and game disk mount menu to be at the top of the OSD in the new msx core and that would save a lot of time. In fact, the BIOS and FW load don‘t use very well. What do you guys think?

[fallen summit]

I actually agree with that

most used at the top

lesser user below that

[stray reef]

The Bluemsx(or Openmsx) emulator automatically recognizes the rom mapper. Ocm or new msx core needs to be specified individually, so what principle does Bluemsx(or Openmsx) automatically recognize the mapper? Wouldn‘t it be possible to apply this in the new msx core if we know the principle?

[fallen summit]

@stray reef https://romdb.vampier.net/index.php?show=643

this is what is in essence the base or openMSX and the blueMSX rom database

there are plans for rom headers

but i haven't gotten around making those

[stray reef]

The rom header operation was included in bluemsx(openmsx). Then it was a problem that would be solved if this work was put into the new msx core. Does it take a lot of time?

[fallen summit]

Not really - just a lot of planning

[karmic rover]

I will send you tomorrow I think !

[fallen summit]

thanks

[cyan horizon]

How should I name the VHD file so it's loaded automatically when I have "MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD" on SLOT A?
I thought it should be called /media/fat/games/MSX1/boot.vhd but that doesn't work at all.

[stray reef]

Do you know how to use the MSX koei num keypad? It was available on bluemsx, but the new msx core doesn't recognize the keypad.

[karmic rover]

the video issues on Wordcompressor, unknown reality on HDMI do you think they could be link to video settings not working like Video Mode NTSC/PAL

[karmic rover]

How unload rom is working on the core ?

I'm not able to use save on floppy read by the FMPAC for the game Hydlide 3.

With the MSX2+ (MSXPack) the double PSG and OPLL are usable with the ROM Zanac EX enhanced version loaded on the OSD 😁

[fallen summit]

wait - MSX2+ ??

since when?

[fallen summit]

if it's based on an MSX without numeric keys then I don't know - I don't know how to map to the core

[karmic rover]

With the Sony HB-F1XV (still using VDP of MSX2) having OPLL builtin so no need FMPAC just Megaflash Rom on slot A and load the rom on slot B

[fallen summit]

ok

[stray reef]

As far as I remember, the OCM msx core also works with the right numeric keypad. I hope this issue will be done in the new msx core.

[fallen summit]

@stray reef I don't know 🙂

but keypad is handy for SD Snatcher

[craggy iris]

It's not a rarity, but the interleaved mode used. I already have an edit that at least on HDMI will display the image and not break the sync. But there is noticeable flickering of the image. (There are two frames alternating). But I don't know what it will do on a CRT where it works properly. I have no way to test this. I am now working on optimizing the VDP connection to the framework.

[craggy iris]

If everything works as it should, then after reset and detach ROM only reset and remove access to RAM for slots A and B. So the ROM should no longer boot

[karmic rover]

Yes the rom doesn't boot but I'm not able to load SRAM contents stored in dsk on fmpac for the game hydlide 3. I will try again.

[craggy iris]

Don't even try. It won't work. The SRAM contents will be erased when the ROM is loaded. I'll have to redo that.

[karmic rover]

ok !

[cyan horizon]

How should I name the VHD so it's auto-loaded by the core, please?

[craggy iris]

No such thing is implemented. In the next build I will enable saving the last selected VHD. Then it will be loaded automatically until the VHD is removed.

[karmic rover]

https://under4mhz.itch.io/prince

[fallen summit]

buggy but nice

[grim terrace]

Tech demo

[fallen summit]

https://romdb.vampier.net/index.php?show=2668

[fallen summit]

new dump found 😄

https://www.generation-msx.nl/software/saeron/tetris/release/3572/

[craggy iris]

Hi, I have posted a version for video testing. https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/raw/MSX2test/releases/MSX1_videoTest.rbf Please someone who has the ability to test the behavior on a CRT. Especially the behavior with and without border. Available in the video settings menu. Separately for MSX1 and MSX2 (they are different VDPs). Also https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/issues/15 should solve the problem, but I don't know if the HDMI modification broke the output on the CRT. Thanks in advance for the feedback.

[karmic rover]

I will test the hdmi tonight !

[slate echo]

it's better but not all screen are correct on hdmi

Los Amores de Brunilda first screen is good now

[karmic rover]

The demo maybe good the long one

With the same issue

[light panther]

text looks a bit strange on the new video test core (same on CRT)

[fallen summit]

256 instead of 512

we're going to work on the release of the new openMSX soon

so I'll be busy with that

[karmic rover]

confirme same issue on HDMI

PAL/NTSC and the border work again
Unknown Reality is better

[karmic rover]

The wordprocessor with video test version (border set to yes)

[stuck valve]

Broken also in CRT

[fallen summit]

looks cooul though

[karmic rover]

https://vxtwitter.com/aoineko_fr/status/1675252488247574533

[craggy iris]

That's not good news. Thanks

[craggy iris]

The reason for this bad display is already known and the fix is simple.

[light panther]

Good to know, thanks 🙂

[craggy iris]

New test release 20230702
Add OSD option border y/n
Use framework component - video_mixer

Please test on CRT. Including interlaced video

[karmic rover]

On HDMI 🙂

[karmic rover]

Is someone managed to run Rune Master II by Compile on floppy ?
I have just black screen. I have tested different dsk files

[light panther]

This text looks correct on CRT now too. In black and white for me because I use S-video, though

[craggy iris]

If DSK runs on openMSX and not on MiSTer I can run a simulation in Verilator and find where the behavior differs. However, I need to know the SHA1 for DSK and the chosen MSX model in openMSX where it works.

[karmic rover]

Model Sony HB-F1XV
sha1sum Rune\ Master\ II\ (1990)(Compile)(ja).dsk
ca1c181d5a004adacf008c738f97cd38778f42a6 Rune Master II (1990)(Compile)(ja).dsk

It is running on OpenMSX 17.0 see the screenshot
I tried also on different other models in the core. It is black screen
I can opened an issue also on github if needed

[karmic rover]

On OpenMSX at this screen we need to strike space key to go to the next screen to choose the name player
I tried on the core to strike the space key on black screen and time to time I can go in game

[stuck valve]

On CRT, it look fine.

On HDMI, upper part of screen seems clear. But lower part of screen is blurry.

[karmic rover]

The bottom of the hdmi is visible on crt ?

[stuck valve]

Not the bottom, i mean the lower part of screen

Looks fine on CRT

You can see "vcv" string is not clear. But "sdds" and "ssas" string looks clear.

[karmic rover]

Ok I see thanks 👍

[craggy iris]

What is the HDMI resolution ? I don't notice anything like that on my LCD panel. Do you have the native resolution of the LCD panel set in MiSTer.ini ? Interlaced mode on CRT doubles the lines, but on HDMI it alternates even and odd pages. No line doubling

[stuck valve]

It's 1920x1080

I'm not sure but it can be LCD problem. I'll test with other LCDs tomorrow. Which resolution was on your test?

[craggy iris]

1024 x 600/60 and 1366 x 768/60

[stuck valve]

@craggy iris this issue is visible only with border on. Without border, there is no visual artifact.
I tested 3 monitors with same symptoms. Two 1920x1080/60 monitors and 1280x1024/60 monitor.
When I switch the output resolution to 1024x600, I could also see the issue with border on.

[fallen summit]

syntax infinity is seriously broken

anyone else have this?

eh

@karmic rover did the pack change?

[karmic rover]

I don't that this behaviour for the second video
Normally no changes in pack since some updates

I have to tried the first one to see

Molekula changes the OSD

maybe you could remove your cfg file to see if it is better

[stuck valve]

@craggy iris I attached the video for easy understanding.

CRT is fine with or without border.

[fallen summit]

works fine for me

vdp(10)=255 works fine too

[karmic rover]

https://twitter.com/mdpc___/status/1677293009841577985?s=20

MSX研鑚推進委員会 (@mdpc___)

ハイドライド３(MSX2用)ＦＭ音源化＋音声合成パッチ（英語）
※FM音源とSCC音源が必要です
※音声別に２種類用意しました

デバッグ不足なのでバグが出るかも知れません。
※曲はDSA氏による作成です

スペルミス11ヶ所を修正しました。

https://t.co/XmlpEarGhW

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jul 7, 2023, 12:26 PM

[fallen summit]

metal gear with SCC addition was released

[potent abyss]

😮

[karmic rover]

I think it was already exist but great new stuff

[potent abyss]

Japanese or English as well?

[karmic rover]

There is some video some years ago of SCC version by fony. Is it the same version ?

[fallen summit]

oh yeah it was from 2022

just PSG>SCC translation

nothing really special

but it sounds a bit nicer

[potent abyss]

Sounds pretty cool

[fallen summit]

the orginal artwork

download the full version

[potent abyss]

done

[sudden kite]

Original artwork of what?

[fallen summit]

Seriously …. Metal gear 2

[naive dagger]

Metal Gear 2 "demo" has awesome music

[copper prawn]

mecha assault 3

instead of remaking snake eater they should use the opportunity to remake 1 and 2

the OLD ones

[rain viper]

Isn't MGS1 already a remake of 2?

[copper prawn]

not if you know your LORE

and the truth is that hideo kojima is a brilliant genius

and legendary

[cyan plinth]

We need a multiverse gear solid where Snake from prime universe teams up with Snake from Snake’s revenge to take down the snakes from Snake Rattle ‘n Roll

[kindred ermine]

Only to be DDTd by Jake ‘The Snake’ Roberts?

[fallen summit]

https://youtu.be/3-dThNSm4PM

[bright rock]

@fallen summit if I’m understanding correctly, Bill Gates likes the MSX. Therefor we can conclude that people who bought MSX were indirectly responsible for fueling Microsoft’s rise. So then I can also conclude that because you’re such a big MSX fan, you’re likely the person to blame for Internet Explorer.

[cyan plinth]

Could be worse. Could be clippy.

[fallen summit]

Billy Gates later denied all knowledge about it

as Nishi pissed him off

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rH-D3dd_f1k

[karmic rover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2wZaBPbj4M

[fallen summit]

@river raft here is where the action is 😉

[ionic brook]

has the MSX1 core on main been updated since last year?

[spark jacinth]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/tree/main/releases

No

[karmic rover]

yeah but a beta version is present on msx2test branch

[spark jacinth]

The other branches have.

Yup

[fallen summit]

openMSX 19 will be released shortly

I just finished building the final release

[fallen summit]

https://msx.pics/images/2023/07/25/SCC_complete.md.jpeg

https://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/general-discussion/making-a-die-shot-based-scc-core?page=0

@craggy iris looks like someone finally decapped an SCC chip

[paper kindle]

Raki... that's a familiar name. Hopefully, this will bring a hardware model of the SCC which produces the same inconsistent output as the actual chip.

[fallen summit]

@paper kindle there is also an SCC+ but I assume it’s mostly the same

[paper kindle]

Think that one no longer shares the same waveform between channels 4 and 5.

[fallen summit]

That’s the only thing indeed

32bytes

[rain viper]

So will there ever be a Nabu core?

[fallen summit]

Out of scope for MSX

Keyboard handeling is much different to start with

And needs network capabilities

[karmic rover]

One person saying he is working on nabu core some months ago.

[low barn]

needs mouse support, it won't work with the controller as SymbOS does. Otherwise, for what it is seems to work fine 🙂

[karmic rover]

Yes the mouse will permits to play some adventure games also !

[fallen summit]

@paper kindle https://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/general-discussion/the-meaning-of-the-scc-test-bits

[fallen summit]

working on a proposal for a 'beginner' interface for openMSX

Basic Functionality for openMSX

The following should be there at all times:

Menu 1 - Loan Media

• Slot 1 - Cartridge
• Slot 2 - Cartridge

The following items depends on the MSX system:

• Disk A
• Disk B
• Casette
• HDD
• LaserDisc

Menu 2 - Configuration

• Video Configuration (Mirror Catapult)
• Audio Configuration (Mirror Catapult)
• Advanced (allows you to Switch to advanced mode - what we currently have)

Menu 3 - About

• openMSX version and misc information about the version
• openMSX homepage link
• GitHub

[cyan horizon]

@fallen summit You should really port OpenMSX to libretro. Smooth video and shaders are a must for MSX and libretro provides both.

[fallen summit]

The open part in openMSX really is a thing 😉

[fallen summit]

also I'm only doing support for openMSX these days (discord server/romdb/youtube)

next to keeping everyone happy with a new stream of roms ever year, I'm pretty busy

https://twitter.com/RCAVictorCo/status/1684840623805980672

イカビク (@RCAVictorCo)

YM3812 = SMOL

Twitter · Jul 28, 2023, 8:18 AM

[coarse ravine]

kenny's videos are great

[random citrus]

Hello everybody, i've tried some times to do something with https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/blob/MSX2test/releases/CreateMSXpack.zip
for having a MSX1 VG8020 with FDD and a MSX2 8250 with no success, because i didn't understood how it works. (i am using Python via CMD).
So i pray for some angel that could help me with an already working configuration for lastest beta MSX1/2 core 😦
Thank you very much in advance for your help

[fallen summit]

@random citrus https://vampier.net/MSX/

[random citrus]

Biospack.zip not found, i am sorry 😦

[karmic rover]

At this sentence in the website
You can also look up the mapper types for the ROM you try to start here

[fallen summit]

those are mapper types

oops bios packs are gone

@random citrus try again

[karmic rover]

yes but it is linked to MSXPack when I tried it

[fallen summit]

oh

[random citrus]

Guys please a little help, i've received MSX.ZIP file and unzipped it into \games\msx1 folder
No msx1 folder present in root of microsd card but when launch core (2 july 2023) get always black screen
F12 doesn't works (don't open OSD menù)
What should i do now?

[fallen summit]

I had to remove the settings file for the MSX1 core to get it to work

[fallen summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2NJbUq1-Eo

new MSX demo 😄

[random citrus]

Will try to do it asap

Thanks

[fallen summit]

https://youtu.be/DQrzpqiUM8c?t=1240

this guy always was chilling for Philips and the MSX

very cool dude always showing cutting edge electronics

[bright rock]

What does MSX stand for?

Musk’s Social X?

[fallen summit]

My Sexy Xenomorph

[bright rock]

lol

[long veldt]

In our region the MSX was called the equivalent of "Stone" 😆

[potent abyss]

What kind if state is the new msx core in? Is it a viable alternative to the 1chip core yet?

[spark jacinth]

it's better for some games than the 1chip core in terms of speed/accuracy from what i could tell, overall the compatibility isn't as broad across a lot of different models though.

i'm not an expert on msx, but some games obviously had bugs on the 1chip that weren't going to go away

[fallen summit]

Yes it’s viable - @craggy iris seems to be busy so progress happens when progress happens

[potent abyss]

Which games?

[fallen summit]

Newly found undumped game - just finised it

It's called "Transportation Near Miss"

[random citrus]

Hello, finally i removed all MSX config files from "config" folder into root of MicroSD but this core still freeze and don't permit to do anything, OSD included

[fallen summit]

who made your DDR3 memory module?

[fallen summit]

@craggy iris https://twitter.com/RCAVictorCo/status/1691069117808476160 😄

イカビク on Twitter

SCCをFPGAに実装しています。

非同期回路が沢山あり、ネガティブエッジを使うDFFまであるので、タイミングを分析してすべて3.58MHzに同期しなければなりません。特に非同期リセットは悩みますね。

X社のおすすめは同期リセット。

Twitter · Aug 14, 2023, 12:47 PM

[random citrus]

I've took my Mister FPGA some years ago from ManuFehri, i don't know about DDR3 module details

[fallen summit]

I don't know why it doesn't work

[karmic rover]

If you rename config directory just for the test ?

to be sure to use a stock configuration

[fallen summit]

post to keep this active 😄

[potent abyss]

the best running japanese(yes, I know) computer core on the platform

[fallen summit]

https://youtu.be/BbIVU42xv4g?t=3971

[wicked dawn]

need to play Castle Excellent. @fallen summit do you recommend any version to play in the new core? saves are welcome..

[fallen summit]

Any of the 2

Check the romdb

[wicked dawn]

i mean, does molekula's core support saves on tape?

i thought i saw some rom hacks to save on disks

[fallen summit]

Dunno - never liked the game

The only thing I loved was pushing graph and code at the same time 🙂

[wicked dawn]

Really?

Took me a while to discover I could use graph to speed up the game even more

Good times 😇

guess i will play it on OpenMSX

this version supports save on disk: Special version by Ramones 2015

924EFAF45F7ADF25D1D7D89847A3EBE648FA7FC2

[fallen summit]

I tried playing the game - but it was too frustrating

[wicked dawn]

i have good memories of playing The Castle Excellent for hours

it was frustrating to play the same part over and over

i didn't have a tape recorder

not sure it would even work. in Brazil we got those "disk" versions

hacked to display the name of a local pirate store

[fallen summit]

we got the MARCOS hacks

his hacks were solid

a lot of other hacks were 'meh'

[brazen viper]

@fallen summit you got an idiots guide to using the core?

All I get is artwork when trying to run stuff

Thanks for anything or nothing..just knowing you thought of me for half a second is worth it

[low barn]

Check the second pinned message

[brazen viper]

Thanks

Looking and testing..im about to give up and use an emulstor......lol

My guess right now is the default bios boot rom is the issue....

Ah well..I shall keep testing later

[fallen summit]

@craggy iris are you ok?

it's been quiet

[random citrus]

Hello everybody, just wish to tell you that finally i've solved question of not working core MSX1/2 dated 02 july 2023..
Simply i need to load previous core dated 23 June 2023 that is working, load a MSX1 or MSX2 systems, saving configuration and after this, finally lastest core will works!
I've did it on both 2 Misters that i own and it has worked in that way on both ones!

[brazen viper]

Do ...ummmm... do You make yt videos? Lol

[brazen viper]

@muted sorrel

I'm going to run through your og video to see if I can get rhe msx core working

But there is the new msx1 core now .....which supposedly you don't have to build or find a VHD, but I have not gotten anything to work...I hear music and that's it

But I'll still try the old school vhd method to test your old vid

[fallen summit]

@brazen viper the MSX1 is now MSX2

but @craggy iris is missing 😦

[brazen viper]

Wait..... wait....... im so damn confused now...lol

The msx1 core only plays msx2 games.... or there is a new core called msx2 I need to find thst isn't part of the update all?

[low barn]

Molekula's MSX1 core is also now MSX2 capable. This is not part of update_all script, as the core is not finished. So, if you want to test it, use Vampier's FAQ pinned. Basically, get the latest RBF, put it in some location (I put them in Unstable for example). Then get the MSX bios files and put them in /games/MSX1 folder. ROMs/DSKs/CAS/VHD games/files also go in the same folder.

[random citrus]

No, i don't do YT videos 😄

[random citrus]

Lastest MSX cores permit at user to select which system to use, there are many MSX1 and many MSX2 models avaiable

[brazen viper]

Aaaaaa

Ok now I understand and am smarter

[rapid tide]

Strangly reminds me of Adventure Construction Set.

[stray reef]

Although the new msx1 core has not been completed yet, I hope that the new msx1 core will be developed in analogue pocket open fpga. Since amiga pc core has also been developed for open fpga, I think msx core is also possible.

[brazen viper]

We get it..... you own a pocket

.....so do i... lol and I'd love to play metal gear in bed since second kid is on the way and the luxury of playing my mister is even further away

Sorry for the comment to make me seem like an ass...it gets attention tho lol

[craggy iris]

I'm on vacation, and I've got more responsibilities piling up. I'll get to the core again soon.

[fallen summit]

Hi @craggy iris - ok 🙂 enjoy your vacation

was just getting worried about you as a person

the core can wait

priorty is real life that pays the bills

[random citrus]

About lastest MSX1/2 cores, i think that 2 july 2023 core has an issue because IMHO it's not correct that it's necessary to run and save configuration on 23 June 2023 core before run lastest 2 July 2023 release with success
@craggy iris @fallen summit
It's not urgent, just a thought that i am sharing with you all

[cosmic veldt]

Bit confused on how to set the current core up - I keep getting a black screen and need to reboot MiSTer upon launching the core

I added boot.rom as instructed, IDK what's with the bios-pack thing though

[low barn]

See Vampier's FAQ in the pinned messages. Also do scroll up, plenty info in a lot from other users as well

[cosmic veldt]

I followed the FAQ but it's bit unclear with what to do with the biospack (like, is it same as making a VHD?)

Can't find this thing from the FAQ page for example

#1056033525922537542 message

[low barn]

that was from older versions and tests 🙂

now.. you have that biospack zip from Vampier. Extract it on media\fat\games\MSX1 folder

then the usual F12, load ROM Pack *.MSX to whatever system you wanna play with

#1056033525922537542 message

maybe Reset settings from the next OSD page would help, if you used before the core/official one

[spark hamlet]

Try 20230623 version, with last version i have black screen as well

[cosmic veldt]

Yeah, now it works

I'm guessing something's off with latest build?

On that end, can't seem to make other BIOS-files than C-Bios work

[spark hamlet]

Here a sony HB-F1 is working

[cosmic veldt]

Tried that but just gives me black screen - can't launch games with it

Using Vampier's biospack - did I miss any steps

Wait, you have load BIOS-file as "rom pack"? Kinda confusing

[spark hamlet]

You need load .MSX from OSD menu

[cosmic veldt]

I assumed you have to load BIOS-file as through the "FW Pack"-option

[spark hamlet]

Nops..i don't use this option for the moment

[karmic rover]

https://twitter.com/furrtek/status/1700731090527260804?t=mzOiQICYkyN9LaRFip9KQA&s=19

Furrtek (@furrtek)

#MSX #R800 imaged at x5 only because I f-ed up my Z stage.
https://t.co/u0KwhVuGTb

Twitter · Sep 10, 2023, 4:41 AM

[potent abyss]

https://youtu.be/m3k2gNsfmiw?si=PBDgrqETgt9_us9m

[gloomy sentinel]

Woh, furrtek is decapping R800!

[low barn]

2nd Unix-like OS working 🙂 Fuzix (https://github.com/EtchedPixels/FUZIX)

[low barn]

with several text-based games as well :D)))

[sudden kite]

Can I run my docker containers on it though?

[potent abyss]

https://3d.jlcpcb.com/3d-models/detail/MX1901-MSX-Cartridge-shell-(KOMAMI-Type)

[low barn]

Speaking of MSX and Operating systems, this is my list of findings (mind you that the OS definition might vary, some are just GUIs on top of MSX-DOS, but better than a file manager like MM and such. And yes, Basic is oh well... BASIC :)):

---

Short list of MSX supported OSes:

1. MSX Basic - default programming language etc
2. MSX-DOS (multiple versions)
3. SymbOS - SYmbiosis Multitasking Based Operating System
4. CP/M
5. Uzix - a branch of what back in the 1980s Doug Braun wrote (a Unix-like OS for the Z80 called UZI)
6. FuzixOS - an even newer branch of UZI, still active as it seems
   Untested yet or much on any of the cores (TO DO list):
7. Win2k
8. MNBIOS for Philips NMS-82xx computers
9. Multi-Z
10. HAL Halnote

tested those at least against one of the MSX cores (OCM and Molekula's) with a preference for MSX2

if anyone knows/tested some other, lemme know 🙂 again, my criteria is to be smth more than file managers running on top of MSX-DOS

[fallen summit]

Keep an eye on this years MSXDev 🙂

Oh and a pretty big announcement’soon’ish 🙂

[potent abyss]

that FS-A1 is embarassed to be associated with it

[naive dagger]

@fallen summit
I don't think I've seen that add-on
MSX has so many odds and ends

Reminds me of this SGX add-on that never happened

[gentle spoke]

Do we have SNAC support on any of the MSX cores?

[fallen summit]

fs-a1 is a compact nice MSX2

I have an FS-A1FX here

[potent abyss]

A1 was my first MSX

I played Akumajo Dracula on it quite a bit on that tiny jellybean gamepad

[naive dagger]

I still have one super clean A1WX

Sadly I may sell it soon with some nice additional items
MFR SCC+
Snatcher Sound cart
Egg mouse
modded Genesis controller

[potent abyss]

Thats a nice looking MSX

[naive dagger]

Not my personal one, but it's also super clean with the sticker near the spacebar

[potent abyss]

I had this model, as my second MSX

[naive dagger]

Yeah that one is hot, I sold one in like-new condition in the box

[potent abyss]

Ren-Sha ~

[naive dagger]

I kept the Panny for the turbo CPU feature

The Sony has better build quality

[potent abyss]

Here is my actual one

Good times on the XM29+

[naive dagger]

This was mine before I sold it
Then the buyer contacted me like "Uhh how do I use this"
Alas
It was so clean

[potent abyss]

Who buys an MSX without at least some knowledge of what it is and how to use it

[naive dagger]

Monied people on Ebay

[potent abyss]

You plug it into the wall. You plug in the cartridge or disk. You turn on the power switch

[naive dagger]

But Japanese makes things so ALIEN to noobs

[potent abyss]

My MSX modded NES controller went to Vampier recently

[naive dagger]

Shit, I wish I still had the Turbo R
But I just don't like sitting on a pile of VG stuff that is slowly degrading as I don't use it

I did get to briefly play some games that support MT-32 using the real unit

Had to mix everything together with a little audio mixer

Illusion City sounded hot

[potent abyss]

Thats cool.. I wonder if either of the MSX cores on MiSTer support that

[naive dagger]

It's a small assortment of titles that support it
Very small

[potent abyss]

Thats fair. I mainly setup my MT32pi for X68000 core, but Id like to have it work with MSX cores as well

[naive dagger]

Plus I had been reading about how people mod the audio in the Turbo Rs to "correct" it
And I wasn't about to do that

So I figured the A1WX would be a good reference MSX to keep

[potent abyss]

I miss some of my real hardware sometimes. I think in the case of MSX Im mostly satisfied with the 1 Chip core, but the new one being able to load files in will be a better thing whenever its done being developed

[naive dagger]

MT-32

[potent abyss]

Oh cool, Famicle Parodic II. Vampier told me about the original, its cool

[naive dagger]

IIRC the Turbo R lets you use the MFR cart to the full potential
And some hacks take advantage of the R800 CPU?

But I'm no MSX dev and would not use it

If I had a big house with space to display everything, I'd still stress over all the dust that accumulates on consoles
And all the cables needed to attach it all

[potent abyss]

My house is 1500 square feet, I had a nice little game room but I dont miss the repairs on arcade pcbs, worrying about chips dying in hard to open famicom shells, peeling labels, etc

I sold it all in 2018 for the most part

[naive dagger]

Yeah I'm still in the process of selling
Getting closer to having my core collection in place

Never got into arcade PCBs or pinball, thank fuck

Though repairing PCBs does seem intriguing now that I have tools

[potent abyss]

I really hated replacing that Konami sound module for Xexex

[naive dagger]

Oh was that an ordeal

I hope that HW makes it to MiSTer

[potent abyss]

It just sucked, it was before the replacement modules were available from the cottage industry

Its better, now

I was also kind of pissed off, Xexex cost $500 and the module failed within a month of it arriving

yeah just fuck that shit lol

[naive dagger]

Seems typical for Konami's wacky arcade HW

I'm hoping we get GI Joe and whatnot
That game is so over the top

[potent abyss]

GI Joe is great! The awesome spiritual sequel to Devastators

[naive dagger]

ALIENS is better than I remembered
Been playing the JP version and comparing
They added lots of Cabal-style levels for the USA

[potent abyss]

Yeah its allright!

[naive dagger]

The Simpsons is kind of uhhhh OK
Better than the first TMNT arcade, at least

That's so repetitive it makes me die inside

[potent abyss]

Haha yeah.. I had pcbs of those, so I had played them more recently before the cores came out. I kinda knew what I was getting into. I think a lot of people had rose colored glasses on from childhood cab sessions

They're fine but Konami beat em ups arent the most complex in the gameplay department for the most part

[naive dagger]

Well a big factor was having four players on the cabs back then
It seemed like a jamboree

[potent abyss]

I played through Asterix with someone on Fightcade recently and that game is an absolute slog, I didnt like it much

[naive dagger]

But when you play alone... well

That's too bad about Asterix
Used to love those comics

I'll still play that and Bucky when they happen

[potent abyss]

You might like it, I dunno. It just got super repetitive like you mentioned

[naive dagger]

I've tried them all via emulation, at least a little

[potent abyss]

You know me though, I never shut up about Denjin Makai 2 lol

[naive dagger]

Yeah lots of people like that one

But anyway, I wish I had a full set of Konami on MSX

I gotta get back to speedrunning Cabbage Patch Kids

That gets nail-biting

[potent abyss]

I had a pretty good amount of Konami for MSX, a few duds but not bad at all overall Id say.

[naive dagger]

I mean, as far as MSX devs go, close to the top
I basically started buying MSX for them and COMPILE

Fan of COMPILE since SMS days