ASCII - MSX

[fallen summit]

because no romdb remember?

[karmic rover]

it is just to label correctly the rom name to inform which mapper to use

it is not so hard

[fallen summit]

Wark it isn't?

with 2500 roms? 😄

[kind robin]

who wants to pollute rom names with random codes anyway

[karmic rover]

nobody plays 2500 roms 🙂
MSX have so many roms ? 😛

[fallen summit]

I got a collection of 7100+

[karmic rover]

so many

[fallen summit]

unique games

this isn't including all the roms attached to a gameid

also excluding disks

here is where I linked to hashes

[karmic rover]

i see

On my side i put for each rom (around 100) "NameGame|mapperifnoauto|fmpacifusable|year|dev/publisher|country|MSXtype"
./Roms-MSX2/Aleste (ASCII16)(MSX-Music)(1988)(Compile)(Japan)(MSX2).rom

[fallen summit]

I did that automatically - if you ever opened that file I sent you a link for 😄

but that was probably too easy

that was a stop gap to make testing easier

and the counts are already updated

😄

[marble barn]

That's a lot of ROMs to do! Have you mapped out what all the different data tags will be in the headers?

[kind robin]

wait a minute

colecovision isn't msx

false advertising!

[marble barn]

Oh joy, another system that can play ColecoVision games! 😉

[sly surge]

With Adam, MSX could even become a computer

[stone kindle]

Isn't the Colecovision compatibility because the Colecovision is very similar to MSX1? It's just a bonus

[marble barn]

Pretty much everything seems to be able to play ColecoVision, I am pretty sure if I stick a Coleco cart in my toaster it will play.

[fallen summit]

@stone kindle correct

the base for the romdb is openMSX - I;m the maintainer of that romdatabase

@kind robin the webMSX guy is interested even looking into the header and will give feedback

[kind robin]

cool

[spice mantle]

please image vhd 2021 brazil thanks

[fallen summit]

no rom requests / vhd or whatever

use google

[fallen summit]

https://github.com/ToughkidDev/mglOcm/tree/master/ArcadeEnhanced

fun

[low barn]

For science, of course 😄 Testing out CAS files lol

[fallen summit]

Well you better bring a weedwacker

That’s all I say about that one 😉

[low barn]

"lvl 3" lol

[fallen summit]

No compression back in the day 😉

[fallen summit]

300 roms added - entries 150 fixed in the last 2 weeks

going to take a break

don't want to end up with a burn out

[naive dagger]

Or terminal hemorrhoids

[fallen summit]

......

you drunk?

[naive dagger]

I wish

[fallen summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDKoDwaKfto

MSX Meeting in Barcelona - the whole day broadcast including the talk from Nishi himself

[karmic rover]

Thank you I will watch a bit to see new information regarding MSX0 and MSX3 🙂

[copper prawn]

that's a lot of bald and grey heads in the audience

i'd strut around holding a snes to show the true power of gaming

[fallen summit]

@copper prawn don't be sad that you missed out on the MSX when you were young - it's totally normal for those trolls there in Norway to not have had technology until the rest of Europe was already using electricity for at least 50 years 😉

https://tenor.com/view/troll-trolls-troll-train-travel-windy-gif-15460750

Here is a picture from a train in Oslo in 1986

(steam powered)

[copper prawn]

lul, feels familiar!

i'll game on the msx core one day! YOU'LL SEE!

[fallen summit]

"just you wait" 🙂

meanwhile in 'Holland' (not the be confused with the much cooler Netherlands)

@copper prawn looking forward to the day that you discover the real Metal Gear game

[bright rock]

Snake’s Revenge?

[fallen summit]

...........

[copper prawn]

pretty sure i played the msx original once. i think on the mgs3 disc

[fallen summit]

FPS hell

[gloomy sentinel]

Holland and their music modules

[fallen summit]

MODS!!!

that's how we call them

https://modarchive.org/

[coarse ravine]

https://www.stef.be/bassoontracker/

speaking of which, I came accross this today ^ MOD/XM tracker for the browser

it can even load files directly from modarchive

[fallen summit]

lotus 2 🙂 so many memories

[violet knoll]

https://youtu.be/Ez7unsave28

Posting here due to my fascination and weirdness

[naive dagger]

🤔

[fallen summit]

...... why

[spark jacinth]

Some hardware mods are done just for the memes

[tame aurora]

it reminds me of that youtuber that was basically an apple hardware reviewer, then he posted a video about how he broke his brand new mac studio doing something stupid, it was a big rant. i guess it got really popular because people were sorta hate-watching it. now all of his videos are about breaking new apple hardware doing dumb things

[fallen summit]

Linus broke something on his new Mac Pro once

And then Apple refused to fix it

[teal marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzdvCqGzu08

[fallen summit]

I came here to post this 🙂

Thanks

[fallen summit]

Hehehehe

[fallen summit]

@karmic rover here are the presentation notes

[karmic rover]

thank you !

[fallen summit]

np

[naive dagger]

@fallen summit
Splash Wave video is pretty good. Wish they discussed the sound in greater depth

[fallen summit]

They have several MSX videos

[naive dagger]

Production quality is always great

[fallen summit]

Yup - I spoke to the main producer ones about one of his firsts movies

He really knows his stuff - but putting 1989 on metal gear 1 … it’s from 1987! 😉

[kind robin]

metal gear is one of my favorite nes games

[fallen summit]

Well it’s a 2nd rate games compared to the original

[kind robin]

what do you mean? I think the MSX one is a pretty good port

[fallen summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-feed-the-troll-troll-wander-over-yonder-wander-dont-feed-gif-22194047

MSX super computer! 😉

[cedar jungle]

Konami made a lot of cool shit for a while there. Good video

[fallen summit]

No other video game company back that made me excited to see what lurked last the Konami logo

Maze of Galious - in the beginning I was wondering what the heck this was - the concept was new to me - exploring and revitalizing health by killing enemies - password save function

The only other game what sort of used that mechanic before were ‘the goonies’

But that game was different - around the same time penguin adventure was released and a friend of my brother left the cart at our house for us to play

I didn’t know about the warp zones until much much later

So a few months later metal gear and usas

2 different games - but metal gear really kept me coming back for more

I think I discovered all the secrets - items etc …

Usas was a lot of fun but towards the end you needed to use game mechanics that were not common explored

Then I finally got my hands on an SCC cart (salamander) and in the meantime rom hacks on disk were released

Parodius was one of them

I think the most wtf moment was when I played metal gear for the first time - my older brother kept on hiding the disks. So when he left them behind I made copies for myself - game was in Japanese so I was at level 40 on the 2nd town - but who cares it was fun killing enemies getting moment and buying guns

So much more time back in those days

[copper prawn]

metal gear is the sotn of msx

[fallen summit]

maze of galious is

[low barn]

yey, compiled and run successfully my first ever C program written on a MSX 😄 (based on the nice and easy how-to https://medium.com/relearning-msx )

and still 56 KB left of space on the floppy ("sacrificed" the .HLP files from \help :D)

[tame aurora]

nice!

[low barn]

lol, forgot about MODE 80 🥺 much better now

[limber kettle]

Way to go

[fallen summit]

even I never wrote a C program on the MSX

not even hello world

but I did some assembly

[karmic rover]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/tree/MSX2

[naive dagger]

What is this?

[marble barn]

So is that the MSX2 code merged into Main now?

[karmic rover]

Thank you Molekula!
I don't think main will change.
The readme explains some changes on bootroms

[fallen summit]

modular MSX

[marble barn]

So is it now at the state Rysha can work on MSX2 code?

[karmic rover]

the code is pushed.
Regarding information on Readme and changed boot roms I couldn't load the MSX2.
If I used load bios roms on OSD it works maybe the names are not ok or need main mister updated

[tame aurora]

that's the rc2014

it's a z80-based homebrew computer; at some point the creator realized it could be a msx with a few addon cards, and since it was modular already ... the rest is history

[naive dagger]

I kind of want one

[tame aurora]

if you wanted to, you could make something that's a msx but also ... has whatever weird stuff you want, like a lil oled screen or ... man i dunno...anything really

[naive dagger]

Does anything have to be harvested, or all the parts can be purchased?

[tame aurora]

that's a very good question...i THINK nothing needs to be harvested but you'd want to double check. i think his stuff is on tindie

[naive dagger]

Will investigate

[tame aurora]

https://www.tindie.com/search/?q=rc2014 i want to say the yellow 'series' cards are for msx functionality

[naive dagger]

Would love to have a series of cards to build as I need new soldering projects

[tame aurora]

i love the modularity ... gives me too many crazy ideas

yeah, same

like "ah, i want to add some new weird IO to my sorta-msx"

or "heck, let's add core memory for no reason"

honestly just having a wifi-enabled msx would be cool, heh

ah yeah when i got to page 3 of that link i started seeing the msx stuff

i have a 2+ but the idea of a brand new one, customized for what i wanna do, now that's cool

[sudden kite]

How can we get the Arab MSX's into mister 😮

[marble barn]

Is it just a case of loading the BIOS? You may be able to do that already

[karmic rover]

yes on the OSD we can load bioses so normally Arab's one will work if they already work on MSX1 core
MSX1 mode and MSX2 mode have different advanced settings regarding bioses

FM Pac on MSX1 mode and MSX2 mode

[fallen summit]

Dude I’ll sent you my English fm-pac bios

Oh wait I did

[fallen summit]

https://tenor.com/view/head-brick-human-head-bang-head-shake-brick-gif-16842707

[stray reef]

@craggy iris boot0.rom boot1.rom boot2.rom not working(black screen). In advance setting, booting is possible, but the game cannot be run.

[fallen summit]

Read the read me

[stray reef]

I read "read me". For others, does this core work well?

[stray reef]

I successfully booted by selecting bios in OSD. But the game doesn‘t run. Is it possible for you

[fallen summit]

@stray reef https://github.com/tdlabac/MSX1_MiSTer/blob/devel/releases/MiSTer

I was playing SD snatcher on it earlier - with SCC+ sound

I just love the core now

[stray reef]

@craggy iris @fallen summit I delete boot.rom so it‘s possible to boot early. I got to know it.

I put the rom in the A slot and the FMpac rom in the B slot. This way, the rom can be run. By the way, the MSX1 game has a strange screen color. MSX2 games are normal.

[fallen summit]

FM-pac is not needed for penguin adventure

[stray reef]

No. The color is weird even if I remove FM-pac.

And I can‘t hear the FM sound. Do I need to put FM-pac.rom separately?

[fallen summit]

check on generation-msx which games support fm-pac if you're not familiar with it

Aleste 1/2 and Gaiden support it

try those

[stray reef]

I tested it with xevious. I put and removed the FM-pac in the B slot, but I can‘t feel the difference between the two sounds.

[tame aurora]

xevious supports msx-audio, not msx-music

you need to use something that actually supports fm-pac/msx-music

[stray reef]

No. xevious supports msx-music. I have real msx2 machine and FM-pac.

[tame aurora]

ok

[karmic rover]

MSX music also works with R-type

[karmic rover]

https://twitter.com/lillyssaga/status/1621784406355546115

Lilly's Saga (@lillyssaga)

Prototypes and hardware compliance testing in the works💥👍 #msx #msx2 @CoteGamers

Twitter · Feb 4, 2023, 8:15 AM

[craggy iris]

For now, it's in a separate branch and waiting to be merged. This will be possible when I finish the groundwork needed in the Main project. Without this support it is user complex to load the BIOS, FM-PAC, Gamemaster2 FW needs to be loaded manually and SRAM save support also requires a modified MiSTer kernel.

[craggy iris]

Copy bios files to Games/MSX1 folder or load them manually from the menu

boot0.rom MSX2 BIOS
boot1.rom MSX2 EXT
boot2.rom MSX2 DSK

[stray reef]

OK. It boots well when I delete boot.rom. But why are only MSX1 games weird in color? And rom loading is only possible in slot A.

[slate echo]

i can't get floppy to work anymore ? must i change also MiSTer file ?

i have take real 8240 boot files

[gloomy sentinel]

the last release doesn't work for me

[craggy iris]

How much SDRAM are you using? MSX2 offers a RAM Size option in Advanced settings,128kB,64kB,512kB,256kB ?

[craggy iris]

You need to correctly place the ROM files in the MSX1 directory or upload manually via the Advaced settings menu. This is still a test core and not very user friendly

[stray reef]

Is the weird color of the MSX1 game related to SDRAM? I‘m setting it to 512kb and using it.

[craggy iris]

You don't have the MSX2 mode set, but the BIOS loaded for MSX1. It will work somehow, but the bios can't set the color palette in the VDP from MSX2

In that case, I can imagine the discordant colors.

[stray reef]

@craggy iris There is not a description of sram save functionin "read me". Is SRAM save possible?

[craggy iris]

In MSX1 or MSX2 mode ?

[craggy iris]

Yes, but changes are needed in the MiSTer kernel where support for this is needed. Then you can save the SRAM of each cartridge and also support SRAM from ROM (ascii8 SRAM XX, KOEI etc..)

[karmic rover]

The game Feedback on floppy boots loop after tecno soft screen with the last RBF. I works with the previous update.

[stray reef]

I don‘t understand well. In general, the color of the real MSX2 machine screen is not strange even if I play msx1 games.

[stray reef]

Very nice. You‘re amazing.

[craggy iris]

I am describing a situation where the menu is set to MSX2 mode, the BIOS is loaded for MSX1 and the game is running for MSX1. It will work, but the MSX2 mode uses a different VDP that the MSX1 BIOS cannot initialize correctly. As a result, the colors may be different. MSX1's VDP has colors fixed by HW, but MSX2's VDP has a software-adjustable color palette.

[karmic rover]

Also I'm confirmed if Slot A and Slot B are set to ROM.
The rom on slot B doesn't load.
But If I set FM PAC in slot A, I can load Aleste on slot B.

[craggy iris]

Are you using the original MiSTer kernel ?

[karmic rover]

Another case :
Start the core
If I set MSX1 mode - load the bios rom in advanced settings it works
If I switch to MSX2 - I have black screen
after I made a reset It is MSX1 bios shows with VDP of MSX2 (see the screenshot below)

[karmic rover]

yes original Mister Kernel on my tests

[stray reef]

There was no such issue in your previous test msx2 core, both msx1 and msx2 games were colored normally.

[craggy iris]

Yes, that's the problem. The bootx.rom only loads after a hard reset. The MSX1/MSX2 BIOS is shared in memory. After switching back there is still BIOS MSX1 but HW MSX2. This will be resolved with the MiSTer kernel update. After the mode switch, you need to reload the MSX2 BIOS via the menu.

Otherwise it was working with memory in FPGA. Before, memory was allocated for each mode separately. Then I had no memory left for cartridges. Now it is shared for the BIOS and this leads to these transient problems until I get the necessary modifications into the kernel. I'm trying to make the core available for users who don't have additional SDRAM

[karmic rover]

Thanks for the explanation !

It's not easy with all these possible configuration cases 😅

[stray reef]

@craggy iris In the end, the MiSTer kernel modification solves all the problems. Thank you. Can Korean MSX2 Daewoo cpc-300 bios also be supported?

[stray reef]

I loaded the game (xevious) rom in slot A, put fm-pac in slot B, and loaded fm-pac.rom into FW B in Advanced settings, so I checked that the FM sound was heard well. Good ! 😀

[fallen summit]

@stray reef did you get my pm?

[fallen summit]

Development takes a lot of time and for the end user patience - please just report bugs. It keep frustration to yourself as it it’s hard enough to create a core

You are not entitled to get a core - so when someone is working on it you better show some gratitude and patience

[slate echo]

@craggy iris in msx2 mode

[fallen summit]

what floppy are you trying to load

@craggy iris currently you set the mapper to 'none' would it be possible to set the 'default' to auto?

@stray reef set your video mode to NTSC and see if that makes a difference for you - here is a screenshot from an MSX1 setup

@slate echo are you trying to load floppies in msx1 or msx2 mode?

[slate echo]

after reset config files and restore 8250f main (boot0.rom) + 8250f ext (boot1.rom) + 8240 disk (boot2.rom) all seem to work as before in msx2 mode

baltak rampage demo crash after some time

syntax infinity doesn't even start

noc noc have scramble video and sound

[fallen summit]

correct

interleave mode with overscan

[slate echo]

all work before if i remember right ...

[fallen summit]

no they didn't

with NOP you mean Unreal right?

NOC?

wait 😄

what is noc noc?

[slate echo]

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=66247

[fallen summit]

syntax infinity works fine

[karmic rover]

@craggy iris regarding bioses, I don't know if you are aware of this possibility proposed on MiSTer and not required normally changes on MiSter main.
The core TI99/4a (Texas Instrument 99/4A) used a lot of bios roms like MSX you can see it on the OSD.
After selecting bin files, the file is stored on the directory /media/fat/config along other config files.
When the core loads again it could used those files stored previously.
I could be a good way for the MSX's bioses.
The core C64 also used it for kernal etc ...

[slate echo]

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=52983

[fallen summit]

yes I know syntax infinity

[slate echo]

it doens't boot anymore

just blue screen

[slate echo]

when i type file i see disk content

[fallen summit]

try that one

see DM

[slate echo]

same crc as mine ... and crash just blue screen at boot

[fallen summit]

see DM

[slate echo]

sorry ... DM ?

[fallen summit]

direct message

pm

private message

[slate echo]

ah ok

[fallen summit]

hmmmm

yup dos1 is broken

or maybe not

weird stuff going on

yeah disk access needs to be looked at

I guess we just need to pick 1 drive we want to use (the MSX has a lot of different drives with different methods to get data from it)

and then use that bios

[karmic rover]

With 512 kB we have now enough memory to launch MGSP 🙂

[fallen summit]

😄

[karmic rover]

i need to put some music on my floppy

[slate echo]

does this player use scc or fm-pack ?

[tame aurora]

it can use both

it plays mgs files which are sorta like compiled mml(?)

[low barn]

VGMPlay also works now with added RAM 🙂 for VGM/VGZ files

[karmic rover]

yes I tried also VGMPlay and it works great

we need plenty of DSK files to store all musics 🙂

[low barn]

SymAmp works as well under SymbOS (.pt3, .st2, .skm and maybe some other)

[karmic rover]

Great !!!

[karmic rover]

Is someone tried to buy digital disks of Snatcher Act3 made by Delta Soft for MSX2 ?
I sent a mail to them 4 days ago but no response from them.

[cyan horizon]

New core version is awesome! I have been trying games that didn't work before:
-Sword of Ianna (ASCII16) loads now but hangs after intro 😐
-Los Amores de Brunilda works perfectly now (except for the boot picture) 🙂
-Lily's Saga still hangs after programme's logo 😦

[fallen summit]

One of the members form deltasoft passed away last year

Right after it was released

So not sure if they are still checking email

[gloomy sentinel]

hello !

which's the correct folder to put in the roms ?

MSX1 ?

[limber kettle]

You can put it there if you want. Cause the MSX folder is for the ocm core. I just made custom folders 🤓

[gloomy sentinel]

yes

i could

thanks

and FM PAC ?

do I need a bios for it ?

because it doesn't work

[fallen summit]

Yes

[gloomy sentinel]

do you people have it ?

[fallen summit]

Maaaaaaybeeeee

🙂 load the fmpac into FW in advanced

[fallen summit]

oh there is an MSX2 map now

that's new

😄

oh might be put there by me

december 3rd 2022

[fallen summit]

oh crap 😄 lol

[Follows you] 😄

pretty happy lol

I'm a big Compile fan

oh the retweet was from:

names you see a lot in compile games

[karmic rover]

I see thank you.

[fallen summit]

https://www.msx.org/news/msx-related/en/in-memory-of-remy-van-den-bor-thekid

@karmic rover there is the post about it

[fallen summit]

tonight's tune will be this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpKiactc93s

[craggy iris]

This solution would work if I decided that the kernel needs SDRAM to run. I've already put enough effort into getting the kernel to run without additional SDRAM to keep it running, albeit with limitations. I'm still toying with the idea of whether it would be possible to use slow DDR3 memory as auxiliary ROM storage.

[karmic rover]

Understood ! So this solution required SDRAM ...

[craggy iris]

Yes, there is not enough space in the FPGA for all the ROMs used (BIOS/FW). Therefore, when the MSX1/MSX2 mode is changed, the BIOS needs to be reloaded. FW FM-PAC and GM2 also share memory with ROM cartridges.

[sly surge]

The Genesis core has an option to run either with or without SDRAM is branching is also an option when there’s enough opportunity cost to warrant it

[craggy iris]

This MSX1 core can also work with SDRAM. It automatically detects the size of the SDRAM and internally sets the memory layout for each part accordingly. What is not possible without SDRAM, however, is to load all the necessary ROMs so that they can be used according to the settings in the Menu. FM-PAC 64kB, RAM 64kB, MSX2 BIOS 256kB, MSX2 VRAM 128kB, MSX1 BIOS 32kB This simply won't fit in the FPGA all at once. Therefore, these ROMs need to be loaded continuously according to the configuration.

[sly surge]

Yes I mean why could they not be loaded into SDRAM only for users who have it?

[craggy iris]

Maybe later, maybe otherwise. This is a test version and not the final version. How about uploading one file that contains the necessary ROM and configuration ? So that it represents a specific MSX computer.

[stray reef]

@craggy iris Do you have any plans to support multiple types of MSX2 bios and vdp9958?

[karmic rover]

SG1000 works but without sound, i don't know how to setup it correctly

[gloomy sentinel]

It needs the SG1000 psg

It is different to the MSX one

It can be converted, but it sounds strange

The msx2sms conversions sound weird too.

[karmic rover]

Thank you @gloomy sentinel

so need to search too much

[gloomy sentinel]

Gulkave has MSX version I Think

[karmic rover]

Ok so maybe sound differently 🙂

[fallen summit]

yes Gulkave is on the MSX nativly

blame compile 😄

SELECT * FROM msxdb_rominfo t1
join GenerationMSXTitles t2
on t1.GameName=t2.Title and t1.year=t2.year
WHERE 1=1
and t1.GenMSXId=0
and t1.Platform like '%MSX%';```

back to working on the romdb today

just got a new dump from generation MSX

headers will be a step closer soon

[gloomy sentinel]

i found that Firehawk has a heavy problem

speed and graphic issues

[copper prawn]

the issue is it's not hudson hawk

[fallen summit]

firehawk ran fine for me a version ago

didn't try it yet on the new core

[gloomy sentinel]

test it

it runs like slug

and has a graphical issue

[copper prawn]

this new core is still in development and isn't grabbed by update all?

[fallen summit]

@gloomy sentinel maybe give better descriptions instead of using negative language

😛

@copper prawn I wish update_all picked an update for you

SELECT t1.GameID, t2.id, t1.GameID, t1.gamename, t2.Title, t1.Year, t2.year, t3.ShortName, t2.developer, t2.publisher FROM `msxdb_rominfo` t1 JOIN GenerationMSXTitles t2 on REGEXP_REPLACE(upper(left(t1.GameName,12)), '[^\\x30-\\x7E]', '')=REGEXP_REPLACE(upper(left(t2.Title,12)), '[^\\x30-\\x7E]', '') AND REGEXP_REPLACE(upper(right(t1.GameName,2)), '[^\\x30-\\x7E]', '')=REGEXP_REPLACE(upper(right(t2.Title,2)), '[^\\x30-\\x7E]', '') JOIN msxdb_company t3 ON t1.CompanyID1 = t3.CompanyID WHERE 1 = 1 AND ABS(t1.Year - t2.year) < 3 AND t1.Platform = t2.system AND( t2.developer = t3.ShortName OR t2.publisher = t3.ShortName ) AND t1.GenMSXId = 0;```

[copper prawn]

i'm reading through your msx info on your site

TOSS vhd?

[gloomy sentinel]

English is not my better point. Sorry if I sound negative 😝

How to explain

Well

Firehawk letters have a graphic problem. They dont show correctly. When the game starts, the main character is an square of messy graphics, then all goes to normal, but the game runs veeeeeery slow.

It's like slow motion... realistic if no gravity is in the asteroid in fact 😂

[fallen summit]

I can see that

@craggy iris it seems that the disk part has some regressions

ROMs still work fine - but some games aren't working as they did before

Syntax Infinity is another example of a demo that used to load and doesn't load anymore

SD Snatcher seems to work fine - so it might be related to a bios call or something

[karmic rover]

it is alien language 🙂

[copper prawn]

i loaded the NEW core

and a game

i suppose you unzip all the roms here

they're not big anyways

i grabbed them from no-intro and they're all zipped

[karmic rover]

You will discover Nyampi Cats Puzzle !

[copper prawn]

loaded a cassette file... now what.. it ain't playin

maybe it doesn't autoboot? probably need to start it with some weird F1 button

[karmic rover]

1. Load the CAS file on the OSD (F12)
2. BLOAD"CAS:",R (binary format)
   CLOAD (Basic Format)
   RUN"CAS:" (ASCII Format)
3. RUN

[copper prawn]

loaded up a random rom. it doesn't boot. others do. in development etc etc etc i assume

"adventure kid - open"

[karmic rover]

for some games you need to setup the mapper

[copper prawn]

i see

[karmic rover]

here you have a DB of rom games and the mapper
https://romdb.vampier.net/

[copper prawn]

i think there's so many games in pretty much all the systems' libraries you need to find some best of lists or recommendations

(it's sotn. it's always sotn.)

[fallen summit]

load"cas:" / load"cas:",r (also run is tokenized basic)

save"cas:",a == ascii

save"cas:" = tokenized

[fallen summit]

slightly outdated for now 🙂

once I'm ready to push it live I will

until then it is what it is

[karmic rover]

ok !

[fallen summit]

well look at this 😉 https://fregarni.itch.io/bomb-jack-msx1

[karmic rover]

21 round 🙂

[copper prawn]

looks like a game boy game with a vga palette

or cga or whatever it's called

[karmic rover]

it is a game present on a MSX magazine

[fallen summit]

Xak / Ys / DragonSlayer 4 and 6

Feedback

Herzog

Zanac/Zanac-ex/Aleste/Aleste2/Aleste Gaiden/Guardic

@sly surge I can go on for a few hours

[karmic rover]

1st puyo puyo

[limber kettle]

I was just about to play that too

[fallen summit]

BPS or Mirrorsoft Tetris

[sly surge]

You’re only naming Compile games cos I prompted you tho 😉

[fallen summit]

eh Xak = Microcabin

Ys / DragonSlayer 4 and 6 = falcom

Feedback\Herzog = Technosoft

Didn't even mention Fray or Illusion City for Microcabin

[sly surge]

Did technosoft start there too?

[karmic rover]

technosoft is also very present on PC88

[fallen summit]

don't know - but the games they released where pretty much pretty advanced for the MSX2 platform

First time I saw Feedback I thought it was an Amiga game

I was young - didn't know better 😄

and konami made some crappy games on the MSX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL_kfUUkAuE

eh... stupid zemina hack used for longplay?

welcome to Konami UK - the one and only Konami game for the MSX made outside Japan

[tame aurora]

brutal

[fallen summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6qRonD5Jq4

Welcome to 2023 where someone took a few weeks to make a nice MSX2 version

[tame aurora]

that's pretty cool. i understand it can't have original assets in it but it'd be cool if it had this rendition of the music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KnESBiAY4

[fallen summit]

yeah

https://futuredisk.nl/fd47.php

you can download it here

it's free

[karmic rover]

tiny magic is very promising on FD47

[fallen summit]

Tiny Yarou makes good stuff

but he doesn't like Nishi a lot

[tame aurora]

his slot checker helped me a lot when testing my sfg adaptor thing

[fallen summit]

ok just downloaded all MSX roms from an 'Archive' - let's see if I can find new roms I don't have yet 😄

ok some a-hole renamed dsk.file to rom files

[fallen summit]

I guess that was worth it 😄

[gloomy sentinel]

All those companies made things in PC-8801, the MSX nemesis...

There are better ones in 88, there are better in msx

[fallen summit]

https://tenor.com/view/there-was-an-attempt-you-tried-sticker-the-more-you-know-you-tried-gif-7871343

agreed - some version on the pc8801 or x68k are extended versions of the MSX ones

https://www.timeextension.com/games/x68000/nemesis_90_kai

some are just much better because of more cpu power behind them

[gloomy sentinel]

some are original from 88, there are good and bad conversions

I think first Xak is better in MSX

nicest graphics

In the counterpart I feel Ys III or Valis 2 better in 88

Firehawk... draw

music is better in 88 but graphics feel more colorful in MSX

so draw

[fallen summit]

I like Xak on the snes too - much different graphics and same story

[karmic rover]

New version of MGSP
https://github.com/hra1129/mgsp2/releases/tag/2.1.6

[fallen summit]

yup saw this in the morning

[gloomy sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp9Ay1jPb4s

[fallen summit]

opl4 could do that - the explosions on Thexder could have been sprites but the left them out

glorious MIDI sounds

[gloomy sentinel]

opl4 ?

[fallen summit]

moonsound

[gloomy sentinel]

but it was never used ofiially

oficialy

[fallen summit]

officially no

a lot of games are retro-active being patched 😉

[gloomy sentinel]

it was used by dutch demos

music module and moonsound

I had a music module from philips

[fallen summit]

with midi out 😄

and in

[gloomy sentinel]

I enjoyed Muzax3

stereo moonblaster

I never could connect midi modules on it and sound

it never worked for me

I have to say that I bought second hand and it didn't have the ROM connected on the socked.

I don't know if it was needed for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P20dxQPQa54

[fallen summit]

oh those crazy dutchies

[copper prawn]

is the msx your fav system?

it must be

[fallen summit]

no - it's not

it's actually the SNES and GBA

(and PSX for the next gen)

[copper prawn]

snes and ps1 for me

[gloomy sentinel]

I can't tell a favorite system

I can tell what I don't like

[fallen summit]

favorite game (series) ?

[gloomy sentinel]

I can't too

[fallen summit]

most hated game (series)

?

[gloomy sentinel]

mortal kombat or primal rage could be games I hate

[fallen summit]

Jet Set Willy and all the 10000000 clones that are based on this POS!

[gloomy sentinel]

ah yes

these things you say, too

the gold age of western computers... incluiding the amiga... I save not so many games

[fallen summit]

the UK back in the day: hey look a cool game was released - quick grab a c64/zx spectrum and try to make a clone of the game.... there is money to be made!

[gloomy sentinel]

I'm spanish... I don't like the Golden Age of Spanish Software. Opera Soft, Topo Soft... Nah I don't like...

[fallen summit]

how can you not like this game?

[gloomy sentinel]

urgh

[fallen summit]

blow up with the cosmic cheat is epic!

[gloomy sentinel]

It remembers me mutant monty character

[fallen summit]

oh yeah - another jet set willy clone

[gloomy sentinel]

I had an Amstrad CPC

I got traumatized

[fallen summit]

Dynamite Dan

[gloomy sentinel]

I can only play the extreme light beings from japan made...

Jet Set Willy is ... ughhhh

[fallen summit]

look at this piece of sh--

[gloomy sentinel]

jajaja

yes

where are you from, Vampier ?

you are from Europe, right ?

[fallen summit]

this is what happens when you let UK people make a game for the MSX

lack of imagination and sticking to what they know

I'm from California

[gloomy sentinel]

ahhh

I thought you were European

MSX in USA was not popular... and you are an Extreme MSX lover.

[fallen summit]

I was born in the Netherlands 😄

moved away when I was 26

[gloomy sentinel]

ahhh ok ok

then I understand EVERYTHING

you are have the NMS marked in your soul

Philips

[fallen summit]

nms8220/8255

[gloomy sentinel]

but yes yes... so sad times with computers in Europe

[fallen summit]

I got an nms8220 here

[gloomy sentinel]

amstrad, spectrum

I can't with Spectrum ... really

I can't

[fallen summit]

to be honest - those spectrum guys sometimes made a masterpiece with their games

[gloomy sentinel]

I saw the Castlevania one

have to say it's well done

but the games at those times... ohhhh

[fallen summit]

I mean look at this

2 color bitmapped

[gloomy sentinel]

ahh you say Chase HQ ?

[fallen summit]

this looks good

[gloomy sentinel]

and

I remember

Robocop too

but well

If I have to say a machine I like a lot

Megadrive

[fallen summit]

this might surprise you - some of the genesis/megadrive music is horrendous with those sharp FM tones

[gloomy sentinel]

FM SOUND with BLAST PROCESSING

🤣

well

depends on the game

when a good sound driver was used...

extreme sounds went out of megadrive

like in games like Verytex

Midnight Resistanc

e

[fallen summit]

https://youtu.be/HtRO-9IyCgk?t=269

[gloomy sentinel]

the western games... usually sound bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqxUe27KFyk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrAGPVeVaSQ&list=PLVMVbsTFPOy_PLEBhNWAA4hiwYNNNgWaA

there are a lot of good examples of music in Sega Megadrive

the console that came from the creation in the bigbang...

🤣

[fallen summit]

some instruments just sound bad

the ones they used for electric guitar

[gloomy sentinel]

the chip was a cut version of OPNA

they should be used the full OPNA...

like the PC-88

only the PSG and FM parts are in the megadrive

they eliminated the ADPCM and the 6 built-in PCM rythms

[fallen summit]

probably was more expensive

@gloomy sentinel did you know that space manbow could look the same on the MSX1?

except for the color palette

[gloomy sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psSamm93uCE

the same ? same speed ?

[fallen summit]

no the tile graphics

[gloomy sentinel]

with that technique of shifting - adjusting the scroll ?

[fallen summit]

space manbow is mainly in screen 4 to take advantage of the multi color sprites

[gloomy sentinel]

you say the graphics

but not the movement

[fallen summit]

yes

the graphics

[gloomy sentinel]

it's interesting to know

[fallen summit]

I wrote a tile viewer in openMSX

a long time ago

[gloomy sentinel]

the ship of Space Manbow is an Sprite or a Copy ?

[fallen summit]

sprite

but screen2 could not use mutli colored sprites

[gloomy sentinel]

what do you think about Mark III/ Master System inside the MSX world ?

It's very close to

[fallen summit]

look at Golvellius on the SMS

then look at the msx2 version

[gloomy sentinel]

there are strange SIMILAR things between the two systems

japanese Master System with a Rensha button

and Pause

same FM unit

[fallen summit]

z80 inside

[gloomy sentinel]

yes

and texas instruments VDP

the Master System graphic mode is different

but yes

[fallen summit]

more like the msx2+

[gloomy sentinel]

Master System seems a cousin of MSX

[fallen summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-hdYGrzIU0&t=74s

[gloomy sentinel]

I like Golvellius for the SMS

[fallen summit]

vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6xolSHYVg0

[gloomy sentinel]

But the Golvellius 2 for MSX2 plus has more feeling

[fallen summit]

oh btw ... xain/sein games on the MSX

T&E soft games

[gloomy sentinel]

a game very simmilar in both systems is Bubble Bobble

[fallen summit]

THEY SHOULD ALL BURN AND DIE!!

[gloomy sentinel]

Lol

Hydlide

Zain Soft is only for Experimented people in Pain.

I like Undead Line

T&E Sof

t

it can be saved from the flames of hell

so you love Super Tritorn

ahhh... I could play a terrible game from Zain Soft in the X68000. Baruusa no Fukushu... what a SHIT.

but I have feelings for DIOS... in PC-88

in MSX is a torture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auEyd7vBffw&t=627s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4K9vBv6WrY&t=6s This game is ULTRA BAD.

DIOS for X68000 ... bad version.

[fallen summit]

well they called it GOD

[gloomy sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5O6v79kTrc&t=1550s

Dios in spanish = God

[fallen summit]

"ay dios mio"

@gloomy sentinel I know 🙂

[gloomy sentinel]

Oh Dios ! Qué habéis hecho ??

[fallen summit]

no 😛

Olí los pedos de un hámster y ahora me encanta el c64

[gloomy sentinel]

LOL

Me parece un sistema interesante el C64, pero no lo viví. El sistema de sonido es altamente venerado por los usuarios experimentados y los altos entendidos, pero prefiero los sonidos FM del páis de los seres de luz del sol naciente.🤣

[fallen summit]

yeah me too

but the SID chip is cool too

[gloomy sentinel]

yes

it sounds nice

[fallen summit]

the c64 was capable of doing amazing things

[gloomy sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CKEhf0r_wBc

it's me LOL

yes. Commando for C64 is very good

and side scrollers, shot'em ups

very smooth scroll

correct in colors

diferent resolution modes

the demos are very impressive

I like the Amiga demos too

very impressive

[violet epoch]

Alto Pep

[fallen summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn16hCYNdF4

1. Load main bios / sub or ext rom / disk rom / load FMPAC bios
2. For SD Snatcher select the SCC+ (preferred for this game) or SCC and reset to load the disk
3. Select FM-PAC and Load Aleste to hear the FM-PAC - select the ascii16 mapper for this game to work.

[cyan horizon]

@fallen summit Where does the fm-pack BIOS go? as boot3.rom, maybe?

Ah, no, I have to load it manually.. Is there no way to have the core load it automatically?

[karmic rover]

no

you need to load it each time you want to use

[fallen summit]

@cyan horizon see the "(for now)" part

[gloomy sentinel]

MSX

never was EASY

hehe

[karmic rover]

@cyan horizon how did you manage to launch Los Amores de brunilda. Have you a specific version ? Which bioses do you use ?

[cyan horizon]

I use the bioses available here: https://download.file-hunter.com/System ROMs/machines/philips/

And then I set the ASCII16 mapper type for Los Amores

[karmic rover]

I think It was KonamiSCC thanks for the information I will test it !

[fallen summit]

@craggy iris what FDD is the MSX floppy based on?

different disk bios files have different outcomes when using the FDD

[wicked dawn]

Different memory addresses? Brazilian FDD interfaces were port based. I think all EUR and JP disk bioses memory mapped. I had the only BR MSX with a memory mapped FDD interface. 😢couple of BR games and BR disk conversions were not compatible

[fallen summit]

yeah what model

vg8240?

FDD support is currently broken

[limber kettle]

Holy moly wasn’t expecting the long load times with snatcher ? It’s supposed to be like that ?,

[fallen summit]

playing from the VHD on the other core goes faster

it's included with the VHD I released

@limber kettle back in the day we had more patience 😄

[tame aurora]

"load times? what is this - the era in which this software was created and meant to be used??"

[karmic rover]

Also the VHD used on the core is slower than a HDD on real hardware because of the exchange between the HPS and the FPGA.

We can see it clearly when we used zipped content on Sofarun.
It is slower than using the same image on real hardware

[naive dagger]

Whooo now that is hot

[fallen summit]

aaaand we got bad apple on cart

[fallen summit]

https://mdpc.dousetsu.com/other/junk/sample/sample.htm

btw something fun is happening with openMSX - it's still experimental btw the end of a separate control program might be over

yes those screens can be dragged outside the openMSX window

[kind robin]

someone threw imgui into it?

[fallen summit]

yeah - just an experiment for now

[rapid tide]

Ascii Stick X looks similar to the NES Advantage, right down to the non-microswitched stick.

[bright rock]

I ❤️ imgui

[gentle spoke]

The NES Advantage was manufactured by Asciiware, it basically is just a Nintendo branded Ascii Stick. They made the Ascii Stick for several systems (NES, MSX, PC-Engine, etc)

[keen jungle]

What are the best packs for MSX/MSX2, I'm searching for something like MegaAGS for the Amiga. The only pack that I have found is the htgdb game pack from may last year...

Obviously, I don't want any link, just what to search for.

[sudden kite]

File hunter

[cyan horizon]

This.

[naive dagger]

Check a certain organized archive

[hoary robin]

so is the MSX1 core just for MSX1 games? dumb question just wanna know

I got Parodius on it working at least

[karmic rover]

The one getting with update all is for MSX1 games.
Some works on test core based on MSX1 core is on going and msx2 games work for most of them. The RBF is on a test branch if you want to get it

[fallen summit]

@sudden kite @keen jungle did you ever notice those numbers at the end of a filename from filehunter.com ?

ever wondered what they are?

I'll give you a hint

[fallen summit]

the HTGDB file is the VHD from NosferatuMSX

seriously - don't people have any shame anymore

[keen jungle]

@fallen summit Apparently not... What pack do you think is the best?

[sudden kite]

DB table row index?

[sudden kite]

what is HTGDB and what is NosferatuMSX

[fallen summit]

No clue - but NosferetuMSX is an MSX user

Who has a mister

And access to a lot of ROMs in a huge collection

[fallen summit]

HashID corresponds to the number those ROMs have

https://romdb.vampier.net/

Here you can see them still

In the new interface they are more hidden

[keen jungle]

https://github.com/frederic-mahe/Hardware-Target-Game-Database

Former SmokeMonster Game Database

[fallen summit]

that leaves the mystery of who NosferatuMSX is

He created this screenshot this morning #general-banter message

if I was one of the pack creators I wouldn't post a picture with my face right on the github

[sudden kite]

does your DB reference all of MSX software titles ever existing?

[fallen summit]

ROMs and rom conversions

If you want to share your collection I can scan for ones I don’t have yet

[sudden kite]

how do I share them? 🙂

[stray reef]

I‘m hoping and waiting for new msx1/msx2 core to merge into MiSTer main soon but I think sorgelig is too busy these days. 😢

[fallen summit]

@sudden kite upload them somewhere and pm me the link

Only include rooms

Roms

I doubt you have ones I don’t have

[karmic rover]

the work of this core is still in progress ! for the moment nothing is proposed to the main.

[sudden kite]

Most likely 🙂

[stray reef]

I know it well too. However, I remember that Molekula asked sorgelig to merge MiSTer Main a long time ago.

[fallen summit]

Asking and happening is a different thing

If sorg says no then another solution needs to be found

[stray reef]

We all don't know the details. I think sorgelig can't do it because he is busy.

[fallen summit]

I always assume he has been abducted by space aliens to upgrade his firmware

[karmic rover]

poor aliens 😅

[copper prawn]

"extra terestrial is hi tech. no need to evolve more." - sorg

[wicked dawn]

Temptations works on the new MSX1 core 🙂

[fallen summit]

wait - was there a new release?

did I miss something?

[wicked dawn]

I mean, compared to the ocm core

[wicked dawn]

do i need msx 1 and 2 bioses for unreleased core to boot? not getting a video signal here

[karmic rover]

yes bioses are required for the new MSX1 core and also for the MSX2/MSX1 test core

you have information on the readme regarding bioses

[wicked dawn]

thx

still no luck . do i need an unreleased main?

downloaded an html file insted of core. stupid me

[fallen summit]

@wicked dawn https://youtu.be/Fn16hCYNdF4

[wicked dawn]

thx, but i managed to boot it

just played aleste and knightmare

my first time playing aleste

really hoping the idea to add an header goes through

ohh.. aleste supports fmpac? let me try it!

[tame aurora]

aleste has a cool soundtrack

[wicked dawn]

oh god. i still sux at Knightmare

[pastel grotto]

anyone know how to switch disks in the 1chipmsx core? i managed to get final fantasy to load and get to title screen, but it wants disk 2 now

snatcher asked for disk 2 and then to press space, i just pressed space and it seems to be continuing

[fallen summit]

@pastel grotto what you use?

Snatcher should be the hdd version

SD snatcher should be a concatenation of disk 1/2/3 and the save disk

If you use sofa run push disk number on keyboard and then space

[pastel grotto]

This is the one I have

i'm honestly a little surprised i managed to find and run it in the first place lol

there's a lot of different MSX stuff and i have absolutely no historical knowledge of the MSX

i think this is a curated bootable image someone made

[fallen summit]

yeah NosferatuMSX made that one

it's the image with the nice MiSTer logo at the start

on the boot menu which no one reads instructions for

😄

@pastel grotto the HDD version you have there is great - also try SD Snatcher which is in the disk section

SD snatcher is an Ys style RPG made by Konami

[pastel grotto]

ooh that's very interesting, I will definitely try it, though I'm in the middle of setting up windows 95 at the moment lol

[fallen summit]

good luck 🙂

[cyan plinth]

@fallen summit https://youtu.be/zkpUEMRdsc8

[fallen summit]

@cyan plinth these nerds are still going at it 🙂

[honest fractal]

interesting. was there ever a recreation of the nabu network made online since it was switched off?

should search before questions. found one possibility: https://github.com/GryBsh/NabuNetworkEmulator

not sure how content would be hosted though, sort of the blocking point in making a nabu core for mister

[fallen summit]

Not sure either - I never had heard of the NABU until recently - and I wasn’t jumping at the bit to get one 🙂 I got enough ways to play MSX games already

[fallen summit]

made an uploaded for roms to check what you have

limited to 20 files at a time however

Internal queue upload test

[copper prawn]

@sly surge gonna need some ..... NABU memes

if you see what'm saaayin'

[fallen summit]

https://tenor.com/view/naboo-naboothe-gif-13805332

[fallen summit]

@sudden kite DM me

I can't DM you

[wicked dawn]

is there a way to activate turbo on msx1 core?

by turbo i mean joy button turbo. not turbo-r 🙂

[fallen summit]

No

Ha yes

Normal procedure

[wicked dawn]

menu + button?

[fallen summit]

button you want auto fire for and then within 2 seconds the menu button

right and then menu button = make time interval longer

left and menu mutton = make time interval shorter

[wicked dawn]

i was holding menu first... shame...

thx!

[fallen summit]

when I was working on the logo I wrote a converter that would take pictures and put them into black and white - readable by the MSX

[tame aurora]

excellent!

[potent abyss]

What is the benefit of using MSX1 core vs the regular MSX core?

[fallen summit]

@potent abyss no clue - please tell me what you mean with regular msx core

also make sure to read this https://vampier.net/MSX/

[potent abyss]

There are two MSX cores on MiSter, right?

Ok great, that is what I was looking for, thanks.

Oh, didn't even know there was another MSX2 core as well.

[naive dagger]

Direct loading of ROMs is big one

[stray reef]

I went back to the msx2(20221231) test core. Sorgelig is still busy so he is not working on the MiSTer main update. There is no FM music in this core, but I can run msx1 and msx2 games normally and conveniently.

[grim terrace]

Is sorgelig busy with non-MiSTer related stuff?

[stray reef]

I know he‘s always busy with his livelihood. But I think He is even busier this time.😔

[kind robin]

if he has a job i'm fully unaware of it

[fallen summit]

This MSX1 core is being developed into an MSX2 core

[ionic brook]

I look forward to one day taking in the Aleste msx games on a core

[fallen summit]

it's already possible 🙂

all 3 of them

including the zanacs and pre-zanac games

[ionic brook]

Oh on the working build? Thought FM synth wasn’t working

[cyan horizon]

FM works. You have to load the FM ROM manually, and then games detect it and works fine.

[ionic brook]

Ahh

[fallen summit]

@ionic brook #1056033525922537542 message

check that post

it shows both SCC(+) and FM-PAC

[stray reef]

The problem is that the color of the MSX1 game is weird. And it‘s inconvenient to use..

[fallen summit]

The colors are fine

@stray reef do you use HDMI or the VGA out?

[potent abyss]

Great, thanks for the info and the link.

[stray reef]

The previous core(20221231) has normal color regardless of hdmi or vga output. Molekula previously mentioned that the color of recent core can be abnormal when playing msx1 game without a MiSTer main. The recent core has a normal color in the msx2 game. Hdmi out and vga out are completely unrelated causes.

[fallen summit]

Thanks for letting me know - good luck with your adventures

[karmic rover]

Impressive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkvbqvx1CDc

[fallen summit]

it almost turns the msx into a snes

well a Megadrive to be more exact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q-u7pKaao8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeDhTa_Bso&t=1s

[fallen summit]

https://twitter.com/physicaldreams1/status/1628014853133676544

Physical Dreams Games (@physicaldreams1)

Quería agradeceros tantas muestras de apoyo y cariño, que no sabéis lo que os lo agradezco! Me gustaría agradecéroslo con uno de mis juegos mas queridos. Gelatino 2 en Ingles, Castellano, Italiano y Frances.
¡Muchas gracias por vuestra fuerza, gente!
#MSX
https://t.co/syTsFRra31

Twitter · Feb 21, 2023, 12:52 PM

'new' MSX game released

[naive dagger]

Herateino

[fallen summit]

I don't know how - but someone had this early version of a game I abandoned in their collection

[sudden kite]

why the new MSX core wasn't included in the new Mister updates?

[karmic rover]

the changes for MSX are not pushed on mister devel for the moment

[sudden kite]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[karmic rover]

it maybe not ready 🙂

[stray reef]

@craggy iris This time, the new msx2 core is missing from the MiSTer main update. I’ve been waiting for this very much. What‘s the problem? When can it be integrated into the main?

[violet knoll]

when it's ready, it's still in development, take it easy buddy.

[stray reef]

I am well aware that this core is under development. However, I thought it would be completed to some extent if the test core was integrated into the MiSTer main, but I am a bit disappointing that it couldn‘t. I thought this core was not integrated into the MiSTer main because solgelig was busy. Anyway, we have to wait longer.

[violet knoll]

For me waiting is fine, the slower and more peaceful the development the better the core will come out, I think Molekula is doing a great job.

and since I follow open-source development and have seen several projects abandoned due to pressure or haste on the part of users, I take it for granted that we must respect time and work from the developer and patiently wait and help in whatever way you can. I'm not saying you're not doing it. Just leave it for as long as he needs it, good for us with that

[stray reef]

I agree with your opinion But I have no intention at all to pressure the developer. I am well aware that the new MSX2 core is a great core. I am willing to wait for the core to be well developed. However, I thought it would be integrated during this MiSTer main update, but it didn‘t come out, so I was curious about the reason why.

[craggy iris]

Hello, I'm still not happy with the state I'd like to have this project in by the time it gets to the Mian branch. The latest test version needs a lot of intervention in the main MiSTer. But this latest version gave me a new idea on how to better support the variability of the MSX ecosystem in terms of configuration without having to interfere with the main MiSTer. Now I have less time to work on MSX, but I am gradually implementing my ideas.

[lofty crow]

Thank you for all your hard work on this, loving how your core is looking already

[karmic rover]

Thank you for your time on this core !

[violet knoll]

Thank you for all your hard work and time dedicated to this core...Take your time...

[stray reef]

I am always grateful for your hard work. I‘ve solved a lot of questions now. I hope the wonderful core will be completed well.

[fallen summit]

@craggy iris I'm pretty much done with the headers

just need to implement them into the rom file

I have mapper/publisher/name/year/genre/audio support/video support

as with the header one can pick and choose what to use

take your time

[craggy iris]

@fallen summit That's good news. I could ask for a specific header and list of values for each attribute.
After loading ROM, the following must be known: mapper type, ROM location offset, and length. These are the basic prerequisites for this to work.

[fallen summit]

sure

you can get length of the file right?

I will implement length of the header including header indicator bytes (first few)

so after the header what is left is the rom

[karmic rover]

At the end the ROM heardless will still continue to work ?

[fallen summit]

I would say yes

if header found use header

if not found use settings

[karmic rover]

thank you

[fallen summit]

well that's what I hope for

it would make the most sense

[karmic rover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSRcR3ghFl4

[copper prawn]

it IS scrolling at least

those are some great blips and blops

[karmic rover]

with MSX2+ or TurboR the scrolling is way better

[copper prawn]

the new core that isn't done?

[karmic rover]

the new core is MSX2 with the last update

old one is MSX2+ and some parts of TurboR

[copper prawn]

i use update all only. i've got msx and msx1

Z80. turbo +F11

[karmic rover]

yes for MSX1/MSX2 test you need to get this rbf https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/blob/MSX2/releases/MSX1_20230203.rbf

it is not getting by the update for the moment

[copper prawn]

i've got sofarun set up with all proper settings

[karmic rover]

the great VHD ?

[copper prawn]

i believe so.

i have two msx setups. one's a vhd and one collection straight from dracula himself

[copper prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-ancient-explaining-history-channel-gif-11993623

i'm not saying it's vampier but it's vampier

[fallen summit]

No it’s not

[copper prawn]

[naive dagger]

Nosferatu, totally different

[fallen summit]

Nosferatu sent me this screenshot

and a filename: Release 2023-02-25.zip

[copper prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-daylight-gif-12230312

[fallen summit]

did anyone try the new MSX VHD yet?

[violet knoll]

I used and even played Aleste 2, I even liked what I saw

something you want us to see?

[grim terrace]

Where can I get it from?

[compact mountain]

Seconded

[naive dagger]

The organized archive

[fallen summit]

Nah just curious 🙂

[compact mountain]

Hmmm, I can only find old ones. I'll keep up the search

[violet knoll]

DM

[karmic rover]

it is from Nosferatu himself ?

[fallen summit]

that's the comment with the vhd

[fallen summit]

anyone still alive?

[cyan horizon]

Yep! I come here everyday to read news on this fantastic core 😄

So count me alive even if I don't talk very much

[spark jacinth]

No, I'm ded

[fallen summit]

Ok good

[sudden kite]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[karmic rover]

👋

[remote jay]

[fallen summit]

not good

[sudden kite]

yes kitty has to go on diet

[craggy iris]

I'm here, but I have nothing new to post.

[gloomy sentinel]

Hola Molekula

a tu ritmo y sin presiones. estás haciendo un excelente trabajo.

[ionic brook]

I'm just waiting for MSX2 to get added to main myself

[fallen summit]

@gloomy sentinel wow I didn't need to use google translate to read that - I guess living close to Mexico does that do me 😄

and yup - what we have now is already better than the OCM

Disk support could use some work

[gloomy sentinel]

Vampier, si vives cerca de México, seguro que el español está muy presente en tu entorno.

hehe

[fallen summit]

California - loads of Mexican food places

supermarkets

[gloomy sentinel]

California was mexican territory

still, south california it is.

[fallen summit]

yeah and The Netherlands was Spanish territory once

[gloomy sentinel]

yes

[fallen summit]

after they occupied us

[gloomy sentinel]

exactly

[fallen summit]

and killed a massive amount of Dutch people

😄

but that's in the past - the Dutch should have been stronger

and not just sit on their boats being king of the sea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years'_War

[gloomy sentinel]

It was the Hasburg

Charles V

Charles I of Spain.

he was german

[fallen summit]

heck the Dutch national anthem has this line "De koning van Hispanje heb ik altijd geëerd."

"I have always honored the king of Hispania."

[gloomy sentinel]

I don't believe in the Dark Legend of Spanish Conquests.

[fallen summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hiszpańska-inkwizycja-funny-pose-gif-13185102

[gloomy sentinel]

lol

were other times, of course

[fallen summit]

indeed - so people who say I live on Stolen Land

can blow me

I bought this house and the land 😛

[gloomy sentinel]

but if the Anglosaxons were conquered south america... today no natives there.

like they did in North America

[fallen summit]

my best friend is Spanish/Native

she's a weird one 😄

[gloomy sentinel]

but sure, they were ancient times... but the King gave citizenship to all native in south america... when they were converted to christianism, of course. Our Legend is not that dark. hehe

[ionic brook]

slavery vs christianity not exactly a great choice

[gloomy sentinel]

better than genocide

[ionic brook]

(also there are still natives in north america)

[gloomy sentinel]

yes there are

[ionic brook]

I think Indigenous folks would argue that cultural genocide is still bad

that's what the US really pushed for after all

[gloomy sentinel]

of course

but some talk about spanish conquests as a savage genocide

[copper prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-george-washington-shocked-face-gif-13524226

[gloomy sentinel]

and that's not true

[ionic brook]

they were still pretty savage

[gloomy sentinel]

there were other times

old times

[ionic brook]

still recent history out here

[gloomy sentinel]

but, some from anglosaxons countries argue against us in this way

and they were the worst

i'm sorry

[ionic brook]

now you've got modern latin america states still trying to stamp out Indigenous folks

it's not the same as what the US has done but it's still not good

[gloomy sentinel]

is for that

we receive criticism from USA, and they were worst in the conquests... well, the british

anyway

were old tims

old manners

I feel the south american nations as my equals. I'm Spanish. I feel them like our brothers.

but are complicated topics... Let's enjoy the MSX

[cyan horizon]

Oh! un español que no se cree la leyenda negra! Muy mal! No te enseñaron las monjas y los posmodernos que los españoles eran (somos) muy malos de siempre? 😄

Y que los anglos guay, aunque no dejaran piedra sobre piedra

[gloomy sentinel]

exacto

[cyan horizon]

De todos modos, se pasaron el siglo XX, que es ayer mismo, haciendo cosas parecidas. Y lo que llevamos de XXI. Yo no sé cómo sigue colando...

Los USA-anos, digo

[gloomy sentinel]

ellos son los que crean la leyenda.

[cyan horizon]

Y el cine y las series, supongo 😄

[gloomy sentinel]

toda esa postmodernidad viene de allí

o sea que...

cuando sabes algo de historia te das cuenta de que te engañan, y como la gente cada vez sabe menos de todo, pues es más fácil manipularla.

no hay más

[cyan horizon]

Sí. Estuve en movimientos sociales y viví en primera persona cómo luchas verdaderamente importantes se vieron reemplazadas por las mierdas posmos poco a poco, y todo venía en inglés casualmente

[gloomy sentinel]

exacto

pq toda esa ideología nos la traen importada de USA

de USA y de Reino Unido.

de ahí viene toda la postmodernidad que sufrimos a día de hoy.

[cyan horizon]

Un día era un fanzine, luego otro día llegaba una pava y empezaba a hablar de nosotres... y así hasta que todo se fue a tomar por el saco porque todos éramos machirulos sin reconstruir

[gloomy sentinel]

he sufrido esa mierda, amigo.