Handheld Cores

[thorny apex]

similar but different story

[elder harbor]

So were they changing it later or working designs just not using the original story to begin with?

[thorny apex]

that was all studio alex

well, not completely different of course, but noticeably different

[elder harbor]

Ill have to look that up I find the version differences in games interesting

Ive heard the gba version is crap

[thorny apex]

it is not the best

[toxic cargo]

I am not fighting. I am stating facts:

Palmer Luckey, the man behind the Chromatic, is a known weapons dealer.

That is a fact.

[lost glen]

Time out. No arguing against mods. This is not the place.

[rotund flume]

Just a heads-up so people are aware. Altera works with the US Department of Defense to produce weapons of war specializing in electronic warfare. I respect and understand not wanting to support people or companies who directly supply armies but anything FPGA related contributes to that too.

But like @lost glen said, this isn’t the place to argue about that stuff. That’s >>> #spicy-off-topic

[strong sierra]

Dr Strangelove reference as a moderation tool, I like this

[tardy turret]

That's exactly how I remember it; Slightly desaturated with warm tones.

Modern take on Tetris for GBC, but also has classic mode settings to disable things like ghost piece, holding pieces (cheating, in my eyes) and many other things.

[remote fossil]

So here's the collection of Gameboy palettes cleaned up for use on MiSTer

[wispy gate]

Oh badass! Can we get this pinned @rotund flume

[elder harbor]

Has anyone played a homebrew game called Glory Hunters on gameboy?

Its a Zelda type game

[rotund flume]

Not I

[elder harbor]

Its pretty cool if you like zelda and it has a huge map

[hard sinew]

I gave up on the normal traumatarium. Too buggy.

Maybe penitent will be better.

[elder harbor]

They look cool Im just not a fan of those kind of games. I do like the way they executed the interactions with the environment by labeling stuff with buttons instead of moving a cursor around.

[hard sinew]

Yeah that's definitely a draw. I played a bunch last night but there is a known bug that you can't buy the helmet if you bought the shield since you can't scroll right after that. If the creator fixes those known bugs I'll give it another chance in a year or so, but for now it's not in a state I can enjoy it.

[elder harbor]

I got a itch.io account that I use for that kinda stuff once you buy a game it stays in your library and you can just download updates when and if they come out.

[hard sinew]

I wanted to grab the physical version. But alas... at least there is the switch version for my conscience.

[north stone]

I can't seem to get the neo geo pocket core to run games. Any idea what I could be doing wrong?

[remote fossil]

I tried to fire it up the other day and it was just busted. It hasn't had any updates for quite some time.

Interestingly it works on my Pocket

Well at least the core starts and manages to somewhat load a game

[elder harbor]

I feel like someone else needs to take up that core..nothing against jotego he just doesn't seem interested in console cores

It does work better on the pocket but thats not saying much

[remote fossil]

Actually I managed to get it working. To launch it go to Arcade -> alternatives -> NeoGeo Pocket -> NeoGeo Pocket Color

You have to go through the initial settings each time you start.

Also when you switch ROMs you load the ROM through the usual OSD menu, then in the menu select Reset to "power off" the NGPC then Reset to power it back on and it'll start the new ROM

[bitter pasture]

When you configure the input, one of the buttons is the power off. When you want to load a new game, press that button then load the new game. The core will power the neogeo pocket again by itself.

[remote fossil]

Ah yeah its the Coin button that is actually Power

That's way more convenient

[rotund flume]

Someone save the NGPC from abandonment!

[frank pasture]

Our only hope is currently working on the GBA core 😔

[rocky sun]

Both the NGP and NGPC need some severe usability improvements, it's kinda awful in general, and extremelly confusing to use them unless someone explains it to you

[solar iron]

Sadly, I don't think he has any interest. Robert tends to only work on cores that interest him personally. Not that there's anything wrong that mind you!

[wraith magnet]

The code is seemingly all open, so a dev with the skills could fork it and finish it and add it to Main. It doesn't necessarily need someone to start from the beginning.

[wary fjord]

[Edited because I’m not interested in drama I just want to save my card fighters clash data]

My beloved

[wraith magnet]

That's interesting, where did you hear that?

[wary fjord]

I think it came up in the JT discord when we were lamenting about it. But I’ll be honest, I don’t remember (and I probably shouldn’t be spreading it other than I remember cataloging it in my brain as coming from someone who could know - I just didn’t catalog who that was…)

Edited now that I’ve thought better of it

[frank pasture]

[thorny apex]

Redacted drama is the worst kind of drama

[mild glen]

Any dev can pick up and develop NGPC core and make it into mister-devel.

[wary fjord]

Sure, but you and I both know that’s unlikely to happen unless JT officially abandons it, especially if he is going to release the occasional bug fix for it. https://github.com/jotego/jtcores/issues/994

[wraith magnet]

Will keep my fingers crossed Paul or Grey Rogue cast their eye to it, they are both great at digging into other people code and getting things working.

[wary fjord]

My beloved

[elder harbor]

Thats my worry that no one wants to do anything someone else is working on..even tho there is no rule you cant have more than 1 version of a core. Everyone is so careful not to step on someone else's feet even tho that might be necessary to get a core finished.

[torn jay]

I did it once with psx and was not killed for it

So I would assume it wouldn't happen to someone else as well

[wary fjord]

We have a circle of protection around you

[unique radish]

And you shouldn't. No dev should. If I was say making a Gamecom core and someone else released theirs. I'm still going to release mine.

I can't see why there would be an issue say if someone for example made another core that's already out. Aslong as there's some differences or changes. (Like the 2 Mega drive/Genesis cores)

[wary fjord]

There are a couple of factors with ngpc (from what I undersatnd). One, it's apparently not well documented? Also, it's a niche system that would be more of a curiosity for the folks who didn't own one. I imagine anyone wanting to take the mantle would either want a challenge, or have nostalgia for the system.

[unique radish]

I guess I have a one sided view. But I think if a core is being made, or announced it's going to be made. There shouldn't be any issues if another core dev gives it a go too.

Worst comes to worst. There's 2 amazing cores of the same system.

[rotund flume]

do u own a ngpc

[wary fjord]

I own 3, sir.

Somewhere in a box is a card fighters clash cart that has all the cards unlocked

I even got bamboozled into the DC link cable. I loved the NGPC

[rotund flume]

Damn that's so cool. I just own one, well I'm borrowing it from a friend.

I bought a bunch of games for it too

[wary fjord]

For a kid who coveted a neo geo, it was so cool to own something made by SNK. And the fighting games on it were surprisingly good

that click stick was v satisfying

like any other console of age I am terrified to dig it out and see if it still works

but if someone takes up the core, I will so that I can test 🙂

oh shit…there is a rom cart for it……………

[rotund flume]

👀

[wary fjord]

Put fresh batteries in but she doesn’t turn on. Need to check the others I guess

[rocky sun]

Aye, my poor gameboy color still works which was a relief after not touching it for like 20 years, but I learned it needs some repairs. The screen is so dim it's almost unusable, and the speakers are just snaps, crackles, and pops.

[wary fjord]

Nevermind! Just needed some love

[vast raven]

Neo Geo pockets are so sleek

[wary fjord]

Shit, I should really get back to work

Casual 134 hours.

Anyway, if someone wants to take up this core, I will buy a rom cart and test

[elder harbor]

I've now added this to my collection 😁

I got an analogue pocket but wanted one of these because it's built like a tank

[rotund flume]

Does it come with a cart of Tetris or is it built in?

[elder harbor]

It comes with a cart and it works on the pocket too

I found something really cool. I downloaded the updater tool for the chromatic. The modretro games can be updated too

Updated Tetris and Dragonyhm

Lost the save data but I wasn't that far into the game

[solar iron]

Yeah, the Chromatic version of Tetris is legit fantastic. I think it's the best official version of Tetris that can be played on MiSTer.

Apotris is of course also amazing. But that's an unofficial version.

[elder harbor]

To me chromatic Tetris doesn't look like a gameboy color game. It just doesn't have that look to it

[solar iron]

Probably because it was designed with more modern handheld displays in mind (the Chromatic itself in this case), so the color choices don't reflect how they would have done it on original hardware back in the day. That's my guess anyway.

[elder harbor]

It's the style too It doesn't feel cartoony like the og gbc version

None of the cartoon like sound effects

[hard sinew]

Which is the latest version of dragonyhm?

[elder harbor]

Is that the version number in the corner? if so its 1.2

[hard sinew]

Yeah I think it's also in the corner of dragonyhms title screen. But 1.2 is the same my very legit copy has, so all is well. 😎

I especially like the color correction of the chromatic (and the whole screen, really). I've requested it to be added to the mister game boy core since it's open source as well.

So all my mister friends can have a bit of it!

[elder harbor]

I was wondering the pocket has an option called "original colors" is that some type of color correction.

[hard sinew]

I don't know about the pocket, but the lcd in the original gbc shifted the colors around a bit, so when a modern screen shows them as is it's not quite the same.

#1046941428758102086 message

Here's some comparison.

[elder harbor]

Trying to find comparison of something Im familiar with

[little tulip]

My phone running gambette with color correction off vs my GBC

[hard sinew]

I talked to the dev of flashgbx and managed to dump my tetris. Now I can play it on mister as nature intended. 👍

[elder harbor]

You know anything about how well flash carts work with the chromatic? I know the pocket had issues with everdrive and even that been years ago and I cant find anything recent.

[hard sinew]

I have a gbx7 and it barely works with it. Sometimes it freezes and when it works some sprites are messed up. Appearently some cheaper flash cards work better but it's a shit show. The flash cartridges from inside gadgets work flawlessly for me, but those are more rewritable cartridges than something like an everdrive.

[elder harbor]

Ez flash junior seems to work well with the pocket from what Ive seen. It doesn't have some of the features everdrive has..but it may be the safe bet.

[hard sinew]

I have a bunch of other game boys. I'll wait for a year or so before I'll buy another flash card and see what some firmware updates do.

My tetris cartridge is apparently some weird new revision which is why I couldn't dump it. Lots of unknowns with the chromatic.

[elder harbor]

You can find a archived dump that works tho 😁

[hard sinew]

Yeah, but science and stuff. And if I can help improve the software for future dumps I gladly will.

[elder harbor]

Those chromatic games must have some sort of flash memory on the cart to be updatable.

[hard sinew]

I reckon they're pretty close to the inside gadget cartridges.

Too bad Nintendo is so angry and violent, I'd really like to see a physical release of star beasts with manual and all.

[elder harbor]

I went and looked up inside gadget and just fell down a really deep rabbit hole 😱

[hard sinew]

I waited to long and now dragonyhm is sold out. Now I don't want to play it on mister in case it's too good which would make it even worse.

[elder harbor]

I found my copy at gamestop

[hard sinew]

Gamestop closed all shops in my country.

[fathom trail]

No more gamestop shop slop for you

[hard sinew]

Just when there were products I would've liked to pick up. Not that I'd actually drive there just for that, the closest one was still over 30 miles away.

[elder harbor]

The gamestop I found dragonyhm at is 76 miles away. Of course I didn't go there for gamestop but I happened to be in the area and decided to see what they had.

[hard sinew]

I miss just snooping around in stores and finding really cool shit.

[elder harbor]

I dont think the people that wanna make everything digital take into account that going into the store and actually buying a game is part of the experience too.

[hard sinew]

They take into account that they make more money if retail doesn't take a cut.

[solar iron]

I do miss buying physical copies of games in stores. I just had to stop out of necessity due to literally running out of space to store all my games. I spent 30 years collecting games and it caught up to me eventually!

[elder harbor]

Games are where they make money..look at sony and microsoft they both take loses on there consoles they just want you in their ecosystem to buy games.

Hell microsoft dont care about the console anymore they just want you get their games whatever you playing on .lol

[north stone]

Where I can download the NGPC core?

[solar iron]

That's locked behind the Jotego Patreon.

Only the standard NGP core is public. And it's in really rough shape unforunately.

[north stone]

Yeah I can't get it to boot any games

[solar iron]

You basically need to go through the entire settings process (setting the date and time, etc.) every single time you boot up the core. Then you need to reset it (forget which button does it) and then load the game. It's weird and clearly unfinished. We can only hope Jotego decides to finish the core some day or that someone else makes one.

[north stone]

Where do you set the time and date?

[solar iron]

It should just be the Neo Geo Pocket's bios menus.

Are you getting the bios to show up at all?

[north stone]

I see the pop up menu. Other than that it's just a blank 4:3 box

[solar iron]

Sounds like you don't have the bios installed then.

I forget if it's pulled from update_all or not for NGP.

Otherwise, you'll have to source it yourself.

[rocky sun]

NGP and NGPC should be run through the arcade folder, they're treated as arcade cores, and have MRAs to load them. NGPC is in the alternatives folder but requires you to be a patreon of jotego to actually use as it's still a beta core.

You have to bind the 'coin' button which in reality is the power button. When you start the core, you have to set your language + date/time every single time. Then you can load a game through the OSD, press the 'coin' button twice to reboot, and you should be in a game.

Once you're done with the game, you may have to do a cold reboot and go through that whole process again (not control binding though) to play another game, at least I do because the input stops responding completely in the core even upon reboot/core reload.

EDIT: NeoGeoPocket has a console core, make sure you have the NGP bios as boot.rom in the games folder for it. Still has the same usability issues as the arcade core version. NGPC still needs to be run as arcade.

It's a very hassle filled process

[remote fossil]

NGPC works through the arcade folder but I get a black screen with NGP, even though I can hear the music from the core

[wary fjord]

My beloveds

[remote fossil]

It looks like at some point jtngp.rbf at some point got deleted from the jtbin repo. I raised an issue https://github.com/jotego/jtcores/issues/1073

[wary fjord]

He almost got away with it!

[solar iron]

Did you check in the console folder? Because that's where it has resided for awhile now.

Hasn't been in the arcade folder for some time.

[remote fossil]

Ah yeah, NeoGeoPocket.rbf, but when I load it I just get a white screen

[solar iron]

Working on my end right now.

[remote fossil]

cool

[rocky sun]

huh, that neogeopocket core in the consoles folder just white screens on me too, haven't figured that one out Missing bios, fixed

[solar iron]

Missing bios is usually the culprit!

[remote fossil]

Great, thanks for the useful tip @rocky sun

[solar iron]

But I gave the same tip earlier today...

https://tenor.com/view/tough-crowd-comedian-fix-tie-rodney-dangerfield-gif-4052184564659461560

[remote fossil]

all I saw was "works for me", sorry

Weirdly I've got a bios that works with the MRA but not if I load the rbf directly 😠

I've had BIOS files this whole time

Where is the rbf supposed to be looking for the BIOS file?

[rocky sun]

In the NeoGeoPocket games folder, as boot.rom

[solar iron]

I just have it in the games folder for NeoGeoPocket

[remote fossil]

great, that was a missing piece of info too

[rotund flume]

I hope someone makes a Neo Geo Pocket color core

[remote fossil]

Someone besides JT? Because he's made one, it's just not publicly available yet

[wary fjord]

I think Robby meant a working one :p

[rotund flume]

I am supplanting your reality with my own

[wary fjord]

Internet.jpg

[remote fossil]

Actually now that I've got both cores booting I was going to see how many of the games boot on the two cores

[elder harbor]

It works pretty well on the pocket..mister not so much

[wary fjord]

Match of the millennium boots, but you can’t get into a game. Most of the fighting games are like that (aside from fatal fury which is playable)

The one thing that would make the core literally 100 times better is just the fucking ability to save

I can’t remember if turf masters is still fucked. It was oscillating between broken and fixed for a while

[remote fossil]

Oh god yeah the whole save thing

Someone over on the fpgaming discord mentioned that turf masters is working again

[wary fjord]

It’s the saving that kills it for me. Literally every game on the system has unlocks you get for playing (half of the characters in most (all?) of the fighting games are locked behind progression)

The core is basically like going into a toys r us and playing the demo kiosk for 20 minutes and then leaving

[remote fossil]

https://github.com/jotego/jtcores/issues/825

There are several users demanding this feature.

😀

Oh this issue lists game status
https://github.com/jotego/jtcores/issues/788

[remote fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

[hard sinew]

I learned this secret on the playground. 😎

[tender cosmos]

There is no Gameboy Camera support for the GB(C) core, right?

Or am I just dumb?

[solar iron]

It doesn't even boot up the cartridge? Naturally the camera won't function, but it surprises me the "game" wouldn't boot up. Haven't tried it myself though.

[tender cosmos]

I haven’t tried the Camera either yet (so it could boot or not), and I prolly still won’t, given that the thing is kinda useless without the ability to take photos.

[wraith magnet]

Hmm, if it doesn't boot then mapper must not be supported. I wonder if this is a simple mapper, or you need to have the whole camera logic in there for it to work

Can you do/see much in it without utilising the camera?

[tender cosmos]

There are things to do.

[wraith magnet]

Hmm, maybe worth raising a feature request to support the mapper without camera support. Any details on the Mapper out there?

[tender cosmos]

It already does, I do not own a Gameboy Camera, and this isn’t from software emulation.

[tender cosmos]

Also, is your ship supposed to stutter when moving it left and right in Space War Space Fever II, is that because I’m using the most compatible sync mode and Gameboy’s wacky, or is that the core’s fault?

[wraith magnet]

When you say "it already does" do you mean someone has already raised an issue in GitHub?

[tender cosmos]

No, I mean it already works on MiSTer, minus the camera itself.

It doesn’t crash or anything if you go to something that uses it, it just feeds the “camera” pure black.

[tender cosmos]

This is from my MiSTer, btw, that’s the Gameboy Camera rom.

[wraith magnet]

Oh sorry, I misread

[hard sinew]

What would be the point of making 160x144 pictures with mister?

[wraith magnet]

I thought you were saying it didn't work at all, that is great that the mapper is supported even without camera functionality

[tender cosmos]

Perfect replication of the Gameboy Camera!

[hard sinew]

But... why?

[tender cosmos]

Why not?

Well, there are prolly many reasons.

Would a USB webcam even function for MiSTer’s needs?

[hard sinew]

I mean you could probably get something to work that feeds the innermost pixels of a webcam to the gb core... but... why?

Would be a lot of work I guess.

[tender cosmos]

And that would be assuming USB is accurate and fast enough to properly simulate the Camera (yes I know the Camera is bad, but you never know how hardware works)

[tender cosmos]

Admittedly, the “best” reason I can think of, is that the Gameboy Camera was made by Nintendo, so for as long as it’s not working, an official part of the Gameboy experience isn’t either.
You could also say that about the printer tho.

[hard sinew]

The printer could actually work via snac.

[tender cosmos]

But I don’t want a piece of thermal paper, I want a PNG to print out later!

[hard sinew]

Take a screenshot.

[solar iron]

You are a screenshot.

[hard sinew]

I am a human being with feelings.

[tender cosmos]

Notice how the reasons given are not about utility, and more so about “it must be a complete mirror of the Gameboy, even if it’s almost completely pointless!”

Because, yeah the printer and camera are kinda pointless.

[hard sinew]

I think it'd be more reasonable to look how modretro got cartridges to work on the chromatic. That one is based on the gb core and may be backported to mister so you can run cartridges via a special snac adapter.

[thorn atlas]

allegedly

[elder harbor]

I found that everdrive does work pretty well with the chromatic with updated firmware after I already ordered a ez flash

🙃

[hard sinew]

Seems pretty hit&miss. Mine fucks up pretty badly. And I'm on the latest firmware for both.

[elder harbor]

Well maybe the ez flash does better and wont be as big of a loss if it doesn't.

[arctic solstice]

I just got Chromatic too. My Everdrive is an X3 seems to work fine with it.

[hard sinew]

I have an x7 and it has errors while turning on, while loading games and even Sprite errors when games are playing.

[solar iron]

That's because everyone knows X7 is the worst Mega Man X game. So it checks out.

[elder harbor]

I just play it safe and stick with the first 3 on snes.

Also megaman xtreme and xtreme 2 on gbc

[solar iron]

At least play X4! That one is a keeper.

X5 is fine. X6 is nearly as bad as X7. X8 is also fine.

Honestly, I would say that X4 is second only to X1.

[hot sparrow]

Sorry for spam but I thought it important to remember what we are fighting for

[tardy turret]

I have the EDGB clone from AliExpress, and it works great on my Chromatic.

[misty escarp]

Heh first time I ever had to use the block function. Sorry don't need to see that

[elder harbor]

Does it seem to yall like gameboy is getting a bit of a resurgence with stuff like the analogue pocket and the chromatic being out there now?

[deep yarrow]

yeah a bit

[misty escarp]

Mine got that from the MiSTer

[deep yarrow]

i wonder if people miss like, real portable consoles with their own unique games

[misty escarp]

I played thru like 8 Gameboy games last week. I haven't played a gameboy since I was a kid

I forgot how truly amazing that little thing was

[deep yarrow]

its a huge library too

[misty escarp]

I loved my game gear as a kid too

[deep yarrow]

and there are still new games coming out for it all the time

[misty escarp]

I need to try n finally beat Dragon Crystal

I do miss there being true original handheld machines

Like switch is cool n all but it's just a portable home console. I get the appeal for most n all that

I guess I'm just an old sack of shit who misses the good old days

[deep yarrow]

3ds and vita maybe suprised me the most for like, wow i never even heard of this and its great games

[elder harbor]

Yeah modretro is planning on releasing more which is cool I like that their cartridges are updatable

[elder harbor]

Sorta like you prefer your handheld to be a bit janky compared to what you play on the home console. If it feels exactly like a home console then its not as interesting.

[misty escarp]

Exactly!!

[elder harbor]

And the gameboy was just janky enough that we didnt get ports of the super mario bros games we got super mario land.

It was different enough it got alot of its own ip.

[misty escarp]

Yeah. Same with the Castlevania games on it

[elder harbor]

Ropevania 🤣🤣

Gameboy couldn't handle stairs

Im sure it could I think was more just not wanting to take up the level space with stairs

[elder harbor]

People that never played gameboy castlevania will never know the struggle with the ropes

[rotund flume]

GBC has a surprisingly massive library of amazing games that I think a lot of people missed out on.

[elder harbor]

Speaking of that and castlevania a lot of people dont realize colorized versions of the first 2 gameboy castlevania games. In the konami gb collections also a colorized operation c but it called probotector since its european.

A lot of the slowdown issues are fixed in those versions too

Probably other cool stuff too

You can also get hacks for most of them. where you can turn them into stand alone games instead of going through the menus of the collections

[arctic solstice]

One of the EU Konami GB collections has a colorized and translated version of the first GB Goemon game.

There is a JP version of the GB collections. They are numbered differently, but have the same games. However, they lack color support and have SGB support instead.

and Probotector in the Konami GB collection keeps the sprites unaltered, despite the name change

Castlevania II is based on the JP version and has the cross instead of the axe.

[elder harbor]

Cool borders for the ones with sgb support

Still think I prefer the gbc versions

[hot sparrow]

Wow they actually did block me 😆

[hard sinew]

That Mario pic made me question alot about my preferences.

[wary fjord]

Some people aren’t ready for Mario truths

[misty escarp]

Doubt there's any truth to be had there

I use my 75 inch TV as my monitor and my kids are always walking by. They don't need to see that. Period. Don't like that? Quite frankly I don't really give a shit

I'm here to chat video games. Not politics and other crap. There's a million other places to engage in that discussion

[wary fjord]

The politics of Mario’s tramp stamp are the only politics worth discussing

[hot sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[misty escarp]

I'm a phone sex operator, I manage only fans pages for women. I work in the adult industry. And I don't discuss details of my work because A. Not related. B. Not appropriate

Said my peace on it n moving on

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/bkTce.gif

[rotund flume]

You just dropped like a metric ton of lore and peaced out.

Mad respect.

[hard sinew]

I still love the fact that Mario's Tramp Stamp is political. And hazardous to children.

[elder harbor]

Ive seen worse things tatooed on actual mothers raising kids..

[hot sparrow]

I actually thought it was a legit Nintendo ad

They had much worse back then

[hard sinew]

Maybe it's a European vs. American thing? I can't imagine a tramp stamp being any kind of controversy in Europe. It's a tattoo like any other.

Same with rimjobs fyi.

[rotund flume]

The tattoo Mario ad is real

[hot sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-boy-that-escalated-quickly-escalated-quickly-got-out-of-hand-really-got-out-of-hand-gif-21698844

[primal lichen]

Do you think Mario still has that tattoo?

[hard sinew]

He doesn't. Would've seen it at that Mario Odyssey nipplegate thing.

[wary fjord]

tattoo shaming is real weird imo

and if a tattoo makes you think about fucking mario… that’s perhaps is a different discussion

(but I don’t kink shame)

[rotund flume]

I don’t have a tattoo and never want one but I do compliment people on cool tattoos

[hot sparrow]

I’m gonna get the mister logo tattood above my butt

[wary fjord]

yup, basically. although I think we both agree that tribal tattoos were never cool

[elder harbor]

Americans like to politicize everything. They can make a big shit storm out of nothing.

[wary fjord]

I dunno if there are any countries out there that don’t have a weird kink for fucking up culture in some way. As the pope says, “to fuck up other people’s shit is human”

[tacit mural]

I just wanted to share cool tattoos I've found

Okay I'm done lol

[tacit mural]

I'm fine with owning the last sold gold case thanks

[hot sparrow]

Sorry I got you confused with pork chop express

[hard sinew]

Wife material right there.

[hot sparrow]

Changed my mind I’m getting this

[hard sinew]

Meh. Analouge Pocket is also powered by fpga. And so is the chromatic. Still not as good as a mister.

[wary fjord]

No Emulation Period.

[rocky sun]

(Just ignore all the bits that are totally emulation)

[hot sparrow]

No, emulation!

[tacit mural]

Wouldn't that make it look like the mascot is... Taking a dump?

[tacit mural]

You're good. We're the two porksters of the server.

[elder harbor]

I think they both serve very different purposes. Its apples and oranges

[hard sinew]

Sir, you this is a mister discord!

[wary fjord]

@thorn atlas I know how exciting the thought of going back to gamate core is but I am not sure it’s compatible with direct video.

U L T R A W I D E

[thorn atlas]

looks fine to me

[wary fjord]

working as intended

[thorn atlas]

it has no real video timings, so im not sure exactly what you are hoping for

it has some bizzare lcd refresh rate

[wraith magnet]

I think it just needs a sys update

It looks fine on my set up without a scaler, is regular 4:3 (or there abouts)

[wary fjord]

yeah, if I disable dv, it's fine on my screen

[wraith magnet]

I assume this is through a Tink4k or a Morph?

[wary fjord]

both

[wraith magnet]

Yeah, hasn't had sys updated since before the big roll out last year with the meta data for scalers

[wary fjord]

the fucking gamate is wild because games semt to veer towards trademark infringement. So you load up enchanted bricks and it's like "ahh, it's breakout, ok."

and then you load up something like dinosaur park and think "oh I bet this is a jurassic park....homage" but nope, it's a goddamed fighting game where you play as a child and fight....beavers?

keeps you on your toes

[wraith magnet]

Yeah, digging into the dodgy Asian handhelds is wild, it is a fun trip into the world of 90s Chinese bootleggers and pirates

That Breakout knock-off is good fun

Mega Duck and Supervision have similarly weird libraries

[vast raven]

Gameboy was a pretty good system if you like RPGs. GBA was a bit weak there, but DS and 3DS picked things up again

[hard sinew]

GBA had great RPGs! Even if most were ports.

[misty escarp]

Can't go wrong withh Golden Sun. There's a really awesome tactical RPG from the creatoes of X-Com on it as well

[elder harbor]

I really hate the packaging some micro sd cards come in. I broke the one I got for my ez flash trying to get it out of the package

[elder harbor]

They both use cores ported from mister thats close enough for me.

[misty escarp]

The PSP also had a lot of neat RPGs on it. Tons of good strategy RPGs too

[vast raven]

I don't know every time I go back to the GBA I find it lacking compared to what came before and after

The good games are great, but most of the games I'm interested in are better elsewhere

[elder harbor]

I think the gba has the best version of smb2

Doesn't smw2 Yoshis Island have some extra levels on gba?

[solar iron]

It does. That game is a bit rough though on GBA.

The screen crunch hurts it more than most SNES ports since it's a very exploratory game with collectibles.

Missing effects too.

SMB2 is absolutely better on GBA though.

[elder harbor]

Yoshi's Island isn't one of my favorite mario games anyway...that whining baby mario just grinds my gears

[solar iron]

I love Yoshi's Island! Better than SM World in my opinion.

[primal lichen]

Also they changed the red coins that are disguised as the regular gold coins.

In the SNES original, those coins had a slight orange tint to subtly hint that they're red coins. The GBA version just makes them look like regular gold coins.

[elder harbor]

Besides the screen size wasn't the gba technically more powerful than the snes? Seems like they cut alot of corners on ports

[misty escarp]

Wow really? I always viewed it as if Nintendo made a 32 Bit SNES instead of going all on with 3D on the N64

[vast raven]

Problem is I have an SNES. I think I'm more mad because there are no good blobbers on the system

[misty escarp]

Blobbers?

[hot sparrow]

blobbers

😌

[solar iron]

Depends. Some things the SNES does better. Some the GBA does better.

[north stone]

Anyone have the cycle accurate GBA core?

[reef marlin]

It's pinned in the gameboy advance thread

[elder harbor]

It's so annoying when transferring files to a sd card. It says it's finished but then you gotta wait 10-15 more minutes when safely removing the sd card because it's not actually finished.

[frank pasture]

What operating system do you use? On Linux/Mac you can just type sync into the command line to flush the cache

If you’re on Windows… well, I’m sorry

[elder harbor]

Fedora 😁

[frank pasture]

Then sync should be your friend 🙂

[elder harbor]

Thats a first for me..usually im being told Im outta luck coz I dont have windows..lol

Although I do have a windows vm if I need it for stuff I need windows for

Also I just like the idea of basically having windows in a cage on my computer

[frank pasture]

As it should be

[wraith magnet]

Anyone tried out Pocket Challenge V2 games via the Wonderswan core? The games I have are in .pcw format, which the core doesn't recognise. Do they need renamed?

[unique radish]

Yu gi oh tag force

I spent so many hours on that.

It's still the only reason why I have a modded PSP 2000 still.

[novel kindle]

"WonderSwan;SS3E000000:100000;",
"FS1,WSCWS PC2,Load ROM;",
"-;",
"O[40:39],System,Auto,WonderSwan,SwanColor,PocketChallengeV2;",

the extension is PC2 but I didn't tried it

[wraith magnet]

I wonder if they can just be renamed then

[novel kindle]

sure you can renamed it

[wraith magnet]

Hmm, changing them .pc2 and they are recognised but load to a white screen

[novel kindle]

and if you set PocketChallengeV2 on system option on the OSD ?

maybe the auto mode have issue in this case

I don't know if a bios is also required

[wraith magnet]

I'm loading up from the Pocket Challenge V2 .mra in the OSD. I've got another pack already in .pc2 format copied over as well now and those also boot to white

[novel kindle]

the option System in the OSD is set to auto or PocketChallengeV2 ?

[wraith magnet]

It was on Auto, but have changed to PocketChallengeV2 and still boots to white

Have you ever got these to work in the past?

[novel kindle]

I never tried it just reading the configuration on the code
https://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/25092-benesse-pocket-challenge-v2/
Hyperspin doesn't have bios and the extension file is pc2

Have you tried those files on other emulator ?
I could test tomorrow or this weekend let you know

[wraith magnet]

I haven't tried on any emulator, I just assumed (maybe wrongly) since the core seems to support it that it would all work fine. Not sure if the system has it's own BIOS, but maybe that is an issue

I don't think we did a full testing sheet for WonderSwan and Pocket Challenge V2 back when the core was made, maybe things slipped through the cracks

Before we go down any rabbit holes, @torn jay do you remember if anything special needs done to load Pocket Challenge V2 roms on the WonderSwan core?

[novel kindle]

I wonder if you not triyng https://www.video-games-museum.com/en/sys/171-pocket-challenge-w/5/all

pocket challenge w

not supported currently

https://www.video-games-museum.com/en/sys/149-pocket-challenge-v2/5/all

here the list of Pockert Challenge V2 supported on the core

[wraith magnet]

Ah... I suspect I may be, so Benesse Pocket Challenge is different to Pocklet Challenge V2?

[novel kindle]

yes

[wraith magnet]

That would explain it

is the original it's own unique handheld then, while the V2 is basically a WonderSwan clone?

[torn jay]

yes, only the benesse stuff does work

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/WonderSwan_MiSTer/pull/6

[wraith magnet]

So, in summary:
Benesse Pocket Challenge - does not work
Benesse Pocket Challenge V2 - should work

[torn jay]

please take a look in the pull request. I didn't do the change

[novel kindle]

Benesse Pocket Challenge does not work => Benesse Pocket Challenge W - does not work

Benesse Pocket Challenge is too short for the name

[wraith magnet]

Hmm, I am looking at the V2 roms it seems and those aren't loading

Yeah, I'm not convinced the core actually supports V2 either, or if it does there must be some weird trick to it

[novel kindle]

I have just 5 min before to go out
I have tested this rom Chuu 3 English (New Crown, Total English Taiou Ban) (Japan) (4BB313).pc2 part of Benesse Pocket Challenge V2 set
and it works with auto mode
@wraith magnet

[gleaming heath]

It's been a while, but yes V2 was modified Wonderswan hardware and I've gotten the roms to load before, but didn't do thorough testing.

Pocket Challenge (original, not V2) was different hardware with no relation to WonderSwan

IIRC, you can take a Pocket Challenge V2 game pcb and put it in a WonderSwan and it just works (the plastic case is different, but no modification to the actual PCB is needed).

But you can't go the otherway round, Pocket Challenge V2 hardware won't load WonderSwan games.

Been a while since I went down this rabbit hole.

[novel kindle]

it seems all educationals contents

[gleaming heath]

Yeah, it was an educational handheld for Japanese students.

[gleaming heath]

Are you using an .mgl, or launching the actual core rbf. For whatever reason, I seem to have a .mgl for 'WonderSwan Color' on my system that loads to a white screen, and never gets further. But if you load the actual core, and use the No-Intro romset, the V2 roms load.

Button mapping is wonky, but I can do things. But I don't know Japanese so haven't gotten much further.

[wraith magnet]

Ah, maybe the .mgl files are broken...

I was trying via .mgl not loading Wonderswan rbf

[gleaming heath]

It looks like in /media/fat/games, there is both a WonderSwan and WonderSwanColor folder. There are no bios files in WonderSwanColor. That is likely what the WonderSwan Color .mgl is pointing to and why it's not loading.

Honestly, all three of my MiSTer's are in a jank state (sd card rebuilds). So not sure how much of a 'clean' install this is. But I suspect it's an mgl option, or bios getter not populating. Sadly can't dig into it right now due to work.

[wraith magnet]

@rotund flume did you make these .mgl files?

[gleaming heath]

Just a final confirmation, I just ran through about 1/3rd of all the No-Intro roms, they all work. Remapped buttons and was able to get 'in-game' and navigate around complete with sound. You might get a warning message about save data being un-initialized or corrupted in some games on start up, but you can just acknowledge and got past it.

Buttons work, but aren't mapped exactly the same as standard WonderSwan. If I have time this weekend, I'll try to use Google Translate and workout the proper mapping.

[wraith magnet]

I think the mgl not having BIOS might also explain some weirdness I saw playing Mega Duck as well thinking about it

[elder harbor]

There is a htgbd wonderswan pack that works good too.I use it on mister and just put it on my pocket. Figure since the pocket core is a port of the mister core it will work there too.

Why such an interest in japanese language educational stuff?

[wraith magnet]

I was trying out some of the obscure stuff we have mgls for, and that was one of them and I had never tried that system before so wanted to see what it all was about

Need to check next time on MiSTer going via the WonderSwan core, but I now suspect the mgl files not having a BIOS associated with the folder is likely causing issues. So hopefully can get to the bottom of that as it it may be a wider issue and need a fix in some form

[elder harbor]

I like having as many systems as I can working so if someone asks about it. I have something to show

A lot i probably will never touch otherwise but luckily most of the obscure stuff doesn't take up much space.

[wraith magnet]

I will need to double check next time I on MiSTer, but when you boot up the Gameboy core do you get the Gameboy logo when the core boots if you have BIOS DB enabled (i.e. you have the official BIOS)

If you boot via the Mega Duck mgl you get a boot screen without Gameboy logo, I am assuming this is because it is defaulting to a built in open source BIOS?

[elder harbor]

Will probably show the black box where the nintendo logo would be like real hardware

Without a game

That was a security feature of the gameboy if that logo wasn't present in the game it wouldnt load

[radiant eagle]

Like when Windows yells at you that the device is still “in use”? I usually just retry 1-3 times and it eventually lets me eject it

Edit: nevermind, I saw you said you don’t have Windows

[elder harbor]

Some things don't change linux yells at you about still being in use too .lol

[elder harbor]

My ps5 chastises me all the time about not shutting it down correctly even when I shut it down how it tells me to.

[elder harbor]

The ez flash jr works great with my analogue pocket and the chromatic. The thing is you gonna need the unstable update for it to work and a console that the current version works on to update it.

I had a gameboy color I could update it on

[hard sinew]

Sounds good. Does it have an rtc?

[elder harbor]

Yup

I dont play pokemon or anything I know of that uses it tho

I looked up a list and the is nothing other than pokemon that I would be remotely interrested in. Pokemon might be cool if I knew someone else around that still played it and could get the full experience trading and all that

[elder harbor]

Learning the in and outs of the ez flash jr. I couldn't get saves to work at first. You gotta create the "SAVER" folder on the sd card or saving wont work.

[whole topaz]

been playing Wario Land 3

[elder harbor]

Cool

[elder harbor]

I think the wario games are better games than the sml games there were spun off from.

[whole topaz]

I agree

[elder harbor]

I been playing around with the nes classics on gba. They look horrible playing on a big tv screen with mister because they squish them down by removing lines. But on a tiny handheld screen it really doesn't look bad.

[radiant eagle]

yeah, I always thought those games looked good on an actual GBA

[remote fossil]

Yeah, you lose res. GBA is 240 x 160 vs NES 256x240

[ebon night]

Yeah, it was better to play the games on Animal Crossing back in the day

[vast raven]

The day they took NES games out of animal crossing was the day I lost interest in the series. That was the single piece of furniture you could interact with in a meaningful way. They never replaced it with anything similar like functional pool or foosball tables.

[elder harbor]

They need you to pay for nintendo online to play old games.

This is what happens to nintendo when they put a former EA employee in charge

[elder harbor]

Kinda ironic that his last name is bowser

[ebon night]

The current Nintendo of JP president is a businessman first, too. No more promoting game developers to those positions...

[elder harbor]

To me thats not really a good thing

[ebon night]

I wasn't implying it was

Charging for Switch 2 Welcome Tour is the embodiment of modern Nintendo. sighs

[wary fjord]

Yeah but that’s not new

Nintendo land cost money too

[modest loom]

diskpart

[ebon night]

That's a bit more than a digital instruction manual

[wary fjord]

Is it?

[little tulip]

@gleaming heath EZ flash JRs have outra whack quality control, at least compared to the Omega DE. The EZ Flash JR I bought was broken out of the box

[elder harbor]

It wouldnt be my first choice but its the only thing that seemingly worked decently for what I needed it for.

[little tulip]

It's also what I use. Had to have the chips be resoldered first though for my unit to be useable.

[elder harbor]

I got it for the chromatic but I still mostly play on the pocket for the bigger screen and it doesnt need a flash cart .

[hard sinew]

My cartridge for Pokemon Patched Crystal arrived. Just the sticker missing now. Bothers me more than it should. 😅

[elder harbor]

Cool chromatic..that's the color I would have liked to have got. I like my handhelds to be black or dark colored. Mine is the gamestop exclusive one so its a lighter grey.

With the bright red corner colors

[hard sinew]

We have no gamestops anymore... appreciate them as long as you do.

[elder harbor]

Gamestop is ok but I wish there was a real retro game shop near me. Gamestop has very little of it now

[hard sinew]

Yeah ours had more funkopops than games by the end... still better than just having no gamestop whatsoever.

[elder harbor]

Funkopops and pokemon cards

[tacit mural]

I have a local retro shop that survived COVID. They have such strong throughput that their business does fine.

Absolutely filled with gems all the time.

[elder harbor]

I got a pocket and a chromatic and have been having a hard time finding gameboy and gameboy color games locally. The funny thing is I have seen a lot of them before.

[tacit mural]

They have a whole shelf full and a case with all the high dollar stuff

[elder harbor]

There are a couple nearby. I haven't tried yet. 1 in tallahassee florida that looks legit.

[tacit mural]

The place here gets some real obscure stuff even.

Oh look plumbers who don't wear ties xD

[elder harbor]

Nice

[elder harbor]

I see astyanax in the pictures..that game always amazed me when I was younger. Such big sprites on the nes.

[tacit mural]

Oh? I hadn't heard of it. Interesting

[elder harbor]

Its losely based on an arcade game which is on mister. But has more of a story to it than the arcade game and has cutscenes reminiscent of Ninja Gaiden. Its worth a playthrough.

[elder harbor]

I been looking for a cart reader for some time I order 1 of these.

https://savethehero.builders/

I've seen reviews and videos on how it works. Its stand alone doesn't need a computer or anything just dumps everything to an sd card

[violet quail]

Made a SGB border for Pokemon Crystal.
Modified from one I found on Reddit
Havent tested it yet, will do that tonight

[hard sinew]

Looks great!

[violet quail]

I might redo the characters on the side, they are setting off my ocd… gaps between them are not even
ill test it first though and see if it even works

[hard sinew]

Some day I'll make a dx violet custom border.

[hushed raft]

Ive got that OSCR device, wonder if that is based off the same firmware

(it might since it's open source - only other difference is that the OSCR has more cart ports)

https://github.com/sanni/cartreader

didnt use it much yet, but it does work standalone with an SD card

[violet quail]

Centered the text, symbol and characters on the side.
Tested it in game and looked decent IMO

[tawdry walrus]

In Apple ][ colors.

Well, almost, since the purple has shades.

[violet quail]

Looks like its losing the top few pixels… probably have to adjust that

[gray grail]

HW3 version, so perfectly compatible (with adapters, as sanni worked on HW4 and 5 since then but FW remained compatible fully).

[elder harbor]

Its all pretty much based on the same technology

[elder harbor]

I dont think there will be many breakthroughs in the tech to dump 20 - 30+ year old game carts either 🤣🤣🤣

[elder harbor]

I finished a game🤣🤣

[hard sinew]

I'm about to start a game. 😅

[elder harbor]

That is the The End screen for Dragon Warrior 1 on Dragon Warrior 1 + 2 on GBC

And I bought a few games today

[gentle ridge]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Gameboy_MiSTer/pull/268

Paulb-nl is a legend, pretty cool feature

[novel kindle]

it fixes also for OAM

[hard sinew]

What exactly do the extra sprites do? No aware of any sprite limit like on nes.

[vast raven]

Apparently Ninja Gaiden Shadow has it pretty bad

[novel kindle]

it could helps TMNT games

[torn jay]

there are several games with sprite flicker, very nice to have this option

[wispy gate]

Any games where it causes an issue?

[elder harbor]

I've never known the sprite limit option to cause negative effects ive never had any atleast.

[primal lichen]

Like with any performance enhancing option, you'll run into problems with games that were designed around the lag.

[toxic cargo]

Are there any builds for the new accuracy-focused GBA core?

[wary fjord]

yep. dedicated thread here: #1347219390130688024 message

[toxic cargo]

Ahh! Thanks!! 🙂

[elder harbor]

I understand just saying I havent had any from it. Turbo options cause plenty of issues tho

[elder harbor]

The ghostbusters game on gameboy is pretty cool..its definitely a lot better than the nes games Ive played

[arctic solstice]

Real Ghostbusters? The other one, Ghostbusters II is similar to the Japan and Europe only New Ghostbusters II for NES.

I like both games, though the former is a ripoff of a game name PP Hammer and an odd use of the license.

[elder harbor]

Ghostbusters II the the one you pick 2 characters 1 zaps the other traps. Never played the new ghostbuster II if its anything like the gameboy game

I played the US nes game that loosely follows the movie story

I hear The Real Ghostbusters is just a reskin of another game.

[arctic solstice]

yeah. A mickey mouse game. There's also a Garfield version.

New Ghostbusters II is from HAL and plays similar to the GB game.

[elder harbor]

The gameboy game has both activision and hal listed. Maybe made by hal and published by activision?

That would explain why its so similiar to the nes game

[elder harbor]

I bought the ghostbusters II gb cartridge last weekend because I heard it was pretty good. It was 4th on a ranking of all ghostbusters games I was watching

[arctic solstice]

I don't remember if Activision published it, but I think they probably had to license it from Activision since they had the console rights (and some computer rights) to Ghostbusters.

Real Ghostbusters was made by Kemco and published by Activision.

[misty escarp]

I'm gonna ask a dumb question

So I download the latest unstable GBA core. How do I try out those borders?

[torn jay]

Unstable is not the new core, so no borders. Please visit this channel and the pins: https://discord.com/channels/647909397477195803/1347219390130688024

[wispy gate]

So is the GBA core that's updated in the news, the old core?

[novel kindle]

Yes it is the old core.

[misty escarp]

Thank you

[gray grail]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Gameboy_MiSTer/pull/271

[wispy gate]

Badass

[wary fjord]

Folks who have had static audio issues (or folks who remember reports of those issues): what games do I need to test in the old GBA core?

[kindred cosmos]

I know Jotego is busy with a lot of arcade cores, but why the NGP isn't getting some love?

[wary fjord]

My beloved

https://tenor.com/YqCL.gif

[strong sierra]

citizen material

[ebon night]

I heard a rumor that it was a whale who supported Jotego who requested the NGP core, and they suddenly stopped paying, and Jotego prefers to work on arcade cores.

[kindred cosmos]

That would explain it... Nobody willing to take over it? Even the WonderSwan which is more obscure is fully developed...

[wary fjord]

robert cared about wonderswan. jt does not care about ngpc

[kindred cosmos]

Then we need someone who does, and knows how to develop for it...

[wary fjord]

yeah, that’s the issue :(. Also I dunno if they could use the work JT’s team did because it’s all on his framework

[kindred cosmos]

Ok, I understand. So no quick and dirty port?

[wary fjord]

I don’t think so. But I know nothing. I just consume 🙂

[elder harbor]

I havent heard anything but it makes sense. I just wish if that was the case jotego would just make it public. You know just be honest "hey someone was paying me to make the ngp core they quit paying Im really not interested in it if someone wants to take it up feel free" that way anyone that is worried about stepping on toes wont feel that way. I know anyone can make another core if they want. Some wont touch if someone is already working on it tho

[kindred cosmos]

The NGP has one of the most varied handheld libraries out of anything Nintendo. Specially when it comes to competent fighting games.

[wary fjord]

and the problem is that the core.....kinda works. Like you can play some games. but it doesn't save, and most of the fighting games don't work.

so it's annoying like spotty internet

[elder harbor]

I feel like it works better on the pocket than mister

[kindred cosmos]

It's the tease man...

Doesn't the Pocket support the NGP natively via adapter?

[wary fjord]

yes

[elder harbor]

Yeah..but jotego's core is the only one available for openfpga

[wraith magnet]

Oh, I forgot that Analogue have an official NGPC core

Is that core available from Kevtris/Spiritualised/Spacemen3?

[ebon night]

Can you run ROMs off of the Pocket?

[wary fjord]

it is not :/

[wraith magnet]

That's weird

Isn't everything else?

[elder harbor]

Yes with the jailbreak

[wary fjord]

I think most of them. Maybe not PCE?

[wary fjord]

is there a pocket jailbreak? I was under the impression that openfpga was the jailbreak

[ebon night]

That's what they're talking about I think

[elder harbor]

It is

[wary fjord]

ahh right, so the NGPC "jailbreak" is jotego's core

[elder harbor]

Yeah..some systems do have multiple cores tho

[wary fjord]

ya, because kev only did one or two releases for some cores

[elder harbor]

I like the way the pocket handles multiple cores for a system. Instead of selecting a core for the system. You just select the system and it has a default core set which you can change.

That kinda streamlines the menu

[remote fossil]

It's not really a jailbreak though right

[wary fjord]

nah

that's why I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something

[remote fossil]

The spiritualized PCE core never got released since agg23's PC engine core ported from the MiSTer was released before the other one even got close to being released

[wary fjord]

ahhhhh

WHERE IS THE NGPC CORE, KEV

[remote fossil]

😔

Every so often I think about just buying the cart adapter and ngp flash cart

[wary fjord]

yeah, I have looked at the flash cart more than once...

[elder harbor]

I think its probably done by someone involved with the pocket. Calling it a jail break is more just to separate analogue and the pocket from the thing that allows it to play roms

[wary fjord]

yeah, the problem is that the "jail break" nomenclature means something different for another analogue products. in those situations, it's a fully "custom" firmware definitely not written by kevtris that allows roms to load off the SD card using the system's built in cores

In the pocket, it's the normal firmware, and you're just loading cores written by 3rd parties.

It's also what is causing a lot of confusion when it comes to the 3D because analogue has stated that it WONT have openFPGA (but it will likely be jailbroken to play N64 roms)

[remote fossil]

They don't get called jailbreak in the Pocket community. We just call them spiritualized cores

[elder harbor]

Yeah well I found what I needed to install those cores by searching Analogue Pocket jailbreak. Not gonna get hung up on terminology it got me what I needed.

[remote fossil]

Huh color me surprised that you'd find those cores looking for the word jailbreak

[arctic solstice]

The first thing I would expect to come up with searching for jailbreak and core is a certain Konami game.

[elder harbor]

I find it kinda cool that you can run a physical cart in the super gb core

[remote fossil]

Love me some AI results

[wary fjord]

We are cooked, chat

[elder harbor]

Yall really make a big deal outta calling it a jailbreak. If I knew it was such a sore spot I wouldnt have said anything .

[rotund flume]

It’s all word salad. Most people know what jailbreak means.

[thorn atlas]

speaking of sore spots, how about you never call a core "agg23's" cause the guy literally just yoinked mister cores. Nothing about it makes his name worth mentioning.

the tg16 core probably wasn't ported by kevtris because he didn't write that core

he's got some childish grudge against the system

[wary fjord]

that (and likely poor sales) probably explains why the duo has been all but abandoned by analogue

[elder harbor]

I only refer to cores like that if there is more than 1 core for the system and I need to be specific about which one I'm using. Otherwise I just call it by the system.

[elder harbor]

I finally got this today

[elder harbor]

I realy like that it doesnt require a pc. It just dump roms and save files to a sd card.

[vast raven]

That's nice. I have a HDD cloner that acts similarly. Removing the software element makes these devices more fool proof.

[elder harbor]

I have 1 of those too it can connect to a pc if you wanna access the drives directly

I dont think its even a option to the cart reader. You can connect to a pc for power but it offers no access to the device that I know of.

[vast raven]

Makes sense. Drivers already exist for mounting standard hard drives and USB drives. With cartridges you'd have to run a ton of custom drivers unless it just acts as an SD card reader post dump.

[elder harbor]

The sd card that comes with it has a lot of txt files a database of game names and file checksums so it knows what to name the file without internet access or anything

[vast raven]

That's smart

[whole topaz]

hey... I don't know if this is a hardware problem (of my DE10-Nano) or what, but I seem to have gotten into a weird state in Wario Land 3 for Game Boy Color.

I may want to buy another MiSTer

the East area is always night for some reason

and it never unlocked the E3 level

okay this is apparently normal for Wario Land 3

false alarm, no hardware damage here

[hard sinew]

If anything mister is too accurate.

[whole topaz]

huh

I'm glad to hear that actually

[wary fjord]

Jotego has Said The Words

[rotund flume]

omg omg omg it’s not abandoned! I was wrong! Hooray!

[solar iron]

I need you to tell me that the 3DO core will never release this year.

[thorny apex]

Release won't happen

[solar iron]

I mean the first build!

[thorny apex]

I bathed in the soundless psx days, those first builds are essentially a release

[wary fjord]

1 core by christmas

[solar iron]

I survived the summer of Saturn core boot.bin!

[rotund flume]

I’ve actually been beta testing before a wider release

[solar iron]

Don't make me bring Awbacon in here!

[wary fjord]

robby what's more real the 3do core or the m2

[thorny apex]

1

[rotund flume]

haha trick question!

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/x5YW.gif

[rotund flume]

I don’t have access to any 3DO core lol.

just in case anyone lurking believed me

[solar iron]

Getting a lot of use out of that sticker lately! Glad it's official!

[wraith magnet]

Ugh. I wish he would publicly just give up NGP and someone else could get it over the line and he could focus on what he wants to do.

[hard sinew]

As per usual.

[elder harbor]

Ill believe it when I see it apparently talk is cheap

[frank pasture]

I still don’t know what it’s supposed to be labelled as. All I know is what I have works 😅

[solar iron]

boot.rom!

[rotund flume]

rom.bin?

[hard sinew]

I've .bin there!

[rotund flume]

Here’s a link to get downloads for the latest update to the “original” and “new” GBA cores - #1347219390130688024 message

[frank pasture]

I’ll never remember!

[solar iron]

You will once I've brainwashed you enough!

[frank pasture]

More bullies!

[hard sinew]

When everyone bullies you maybe you're just too bulliable?

[thorny apex]

Indeed. Poor bullyable robby

[hard sinew]

Is it bullyable or bulliable?

[thorny apex]

Not a native speaker, musst not know

[hard sinew]

Neither am I.

@frank pasture do you know???

[frank pasture]

Dumb here. Do not know

I’d go for bullyable but I’m not an expert

[hard sinew]

You were educated in his king's finest English and this is all you can say?

[frank pasture]

Not really sure I was formally educated in it. I learned most of my English on the streets, yo

😎

[solar iron]

It's bullyable!

[frank pasture]

I was right

Da streetz win again!

[elder harbor]

Does anyone have any idea why I'm getting this bad screen tearing or whatever it is on the gba core? It hasn't always done that.

[elder harbor]

I deleted all the settings for the core to see if that was somehow messed up but its still doing it.

[rotund flume]

I am unfazed by everything

[strong sierra]

Which GBA core (old or the new accuracy one) and build date?

[elder harbor]

Old 20250621

[strong sierra]

DKC seems OK under that for me
maybe try the build from jesus here: #1347219390130688024 message

[elder harbor]

Ok that game is just what I used to show it does that everywhere even on the gameboy screen before you even load a rom.

That one fixes it

[strong sierra]

nice, i think setting the 2x resolution option works around it also, at least it did when I had something similar a while back

[elder harbor]

I tried that..it seemed to reduce it a bit but not get rid of it

[strong sierra]

something not working quite right with interaction between core/scaler

way over my head 🙂

[elder harbor]

Whatever is wrong the 2p version does the same thing

No telling when it actually started I been playing handheld cores mostly on my analogue pocket until today

[strong sierra]

it seems to be a per-build thing, ie can build the same code again and its not present

[wary fjord]

It's Metastability May June July

[strong sierra]

folks have been building them again with different 'seed' values to get quartus to create a slightly different FPGA output for same code

something a bit odd is going on

[elder harbor]

So basically no changes except the way its being compiled?

[wary fjord]

yeah (bear with me - this is still fucking witchcraft to me) the way an FPGA core is "assembled" is like a map. The destination is the build process completing, and the seed is the starting location. so depending on where you start, the map looks a little different. some build processes drive through bad neighborhoods.

feels like we are seeing more bad neighborhoods recently

[elder harbor]

I know with a real pcb you have to be careful with routing to not run close to something else that might create interference. Does that kinda thing happen with fpga too?

[wary fjord]

probably? I honestly don't know enough. the fact that I can produce any build, let alone one that helps, is a miracle in its own right

[strong sierra]

appreciate your work with the builds and analog audio issue investigation 👍

[elder harbor]

I couldn't do what some of these guys do but I have been around emulation development for a long time. I tested and helped with batocera before I got a mister. So you can't help but pick up a few things.

Fpga permanently changed the way I play retro games I havent looked back

[torn jay]

The real problem of this random routing disaster is that either we didn't describe the constraints well, build something weird where no constraints apply (e.g. asynchronous clock domain crossing) or it's a bug in quartus. None of that can easily be seen when looking at the code...

[novel kindle]

NGP updates
https://github.com/jotego/jtcores/pull/1108

[wary fjord]

ORLY

[rotund flume]

YESSSSS

[vast raven]

One step closer to perfection

[rotund flume]

I want to buy that version lol

[vast raven]

I've almost pulled the trigger on the plug n play half a dozen times

[rotund flume]

ohhhhh

[vast raven]

That's a lot of £unny money

[gray grail]

Neo Turf Masters works.
The core is complete.

[strong sierra]

the GnW cores need some kinda audio filter that makes the sounds significantly more shrill/annoying

'piezoelectrify'

[rotund flume]

The official GnW core needs a lot of work and a framework update. The unofficial GnW core supports more but the author abandoned it, uses proprietary methods to convert the roms and borders, and needs a lot of fixing to port over to be official. They’re not in a good state unfortunately.

[solar iron]

But we're playing G&W for the game-challenge right now! Now get in there and post your top score for Oil Panic!

[primal lichen]

On the bright side, at least you can play most of the Game & Watch games with the Game & Watch Gallery titles.

[wispy gate]

Is rom loading still weird on that core?

[strong sierra]

Pretty normal, there's sets around for both the pierco and agg23 GnW cores

[wary fjord]

I did a sys update for Pierco’s core but I’m waiting to hear back from them on something before I push it

[molten kindle]

Is anyone working on a Tiger Rzone core?

🤣🤣

[round pumice]

Psst Virtual Boy has the best Wario game imo 🙂

[round pumice]

The R Zoooooone!

[round pumice]

Anytime I think of Rzone or game.com I just remember that vague moan of pleasure/pain (??) that Batman lets out in his Tiger outings whenever he gets hit.

[raven arrow]

Does it help Mega Man 2?

[hard sinew]

I ordered a few new game boy games and it's honestly the most excited I've been for new games this year.

[elder harbor]

What games? You know you can't just say I bought games and not name names

[rotund flume]

Probably some goofy ass game like “Sloppy Jalopy Simulator” or “Merkin Mankini Boyz”

[hard sinew]

Dragonyhm and wicked plague. I also ordered the chromatic battery pack just so the kit is complete lol.

[rotund flume]

Oh hey you finally were able to get Dragonnutz

That’s p kewl

[hard sinew]

Yeah they're getting a new modretro shipment in September so I was able to preorder.

[elder harbor]

I got that a few months ago so actually found it in gamestop

[hard sinew]

Gamestop is dead in my country.

Literally.

[elder harbor]

They barely hanging on here

[hard sinew]

I started playing deadeus in the meantime. It's a neat horror adventure game on game boy and you can get it online for free (it's a pay how much you want thing so it's not stealing if you don't wanna pay). It's really cool so far. But I can't find a decently priced physical version of it. I guess that's one thing modretro does right with the games they publish: they're actually being kept in stock and are available.

[rotund flume]

https://evercade.co.uk/cartridges/indie-heroes-collection-1-cartridge/

[hard sinew]

Does this evercade cartridge work on a real gameboy?

[rotund flume]

Uhhhh who knows

[solar iron]

They aren't even shaped like GB carts!

[elder harbor]

They look like cartridges for a fisher price toy 🤣

[solar iron]

Robby trying to force the cart into the console when it doesn't fit.

[tender cosmos]

But why does it need to be stabilized?

[sudden jasper]

I think it's a mix of its off spec refresh rate and the fact many games just turn the screen off during certain transitions

[hard sinew]

Yeah Pokemon is a good example for this. It does it every time you go through a door.

[tender cosmos]

I’m gonna guess that unless I have a CRT or whatever that’s as fast as it, I need to keep settings like this enabled so either the Morph-4K or my monitor, or both, don’t have a bad day?

[hard sinew]

Yeah my rt4k loses synch when it's enabled.

[deep yarrow]

iirc it'll even make a crt roll the image a bit with that off

[raven arrow]

okay, I have a dumb question to ask

playing Link's Awakening DX in GBC core and it kept fricking my CRT monitor up, when there's a screen transition image blanks out

until I set Stabilize video(buffer): ON

what was happening?

now it's peachy and works fine

[hard sinew]

The original game boy screen could turn off for transitions without shitting itself.

Same in Pokemon when you walk through a door.

This setting makes it so the video signal doesn't drop.

[raven arrow]

there's something new I learn every day, thanks!

also having a bit of a hard time deciding whether to go with raw colors or not

-# I like raw better

yeah I'll pretend this is Chromatic

[rotund flume]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2zgB93KANE

[hard sinew]

So did I for the longest time, but corrected colors got a lot better in a recent update to the core. Pikachu in the pokemon yellow title screen was almost brown.

[raven arrow]

okay, in hindsight the sky is like, dark blue like it's sea

okay, fine, Corrected it is

[wary fjord]

Goddamnit I thought the same thing when I read that

[vast raven]

I find the accurate colors look less washed out

[rotund flume]

But washed out is how GBA games look

[vast raven]

Yeah I believe I put the 30% gamma increase for GBA. Harvest Moon is eye melting if you don't subdue the colors

Even then those text boxes kind of hurt to look at. I wouldn't mind a hack that just makes them solid

[little crystal]

The graphics in Harvest Moon unfortunately put me off that game after like 30 minutes

[vast raven]

I'd probably just play the remake that combines the boy and girl variants into a single game

[rotund flume]

Damn that right photo is

[tardy turret]

I like playing Link's Awakening DX with a slightly muted color pallet. The colors are too intense by default. It looks so much more natural once the colors are muted. I think I use one of the color presets in the core to tone things down, and it looks great.

[rotund flume]

Here is a secret. A lot of games were made purposefully garish so they look “correct” on the actual hardware’s display.

Not all of course but definitely quite a bit.

[tardy turret]

Yeah, and the GBA was the opposite for some games like SMB2 and Mario Kart. They went extra bright to compensate for the unlit screen.

Playing these ROMs with the color restoration patches is a real treat

[rotund flume]

Yeah that’s what I mean, the raw color from a handheld isn’t actually what the devs intended at all

I mean if people enjoy that then awesome, I know I do

[tardy turret]

Sono over on GBAtemp made me a python script where I could "crush" the colors up or down and adjust the gamma intensity for LADX, and I finally got the ROM looking muted by default.

It's my definitive way to play it now, with the Redux mod added for QoL improvements.

I accidentally broke my SD card slot on my MiSTer Pi, so I have to go solder a new one on real fast.

Pro-tip: Do NOT insert an SD card extender into the slot. It has rough edges that catch on the pins and crush them. 😭

[rotund flume]

Damn I’m sorry to hear but also awesome you got the skills to fix

[tardy turret]

Admittedly I need to buy new soldering tips for my iron, but it should be a fast fix today.

[lost glen]

Extenders are bad ideas anyway, let alone badly made ones with the wrong thickness 'plug'. The SD bus isn't architected to deal with skew at that point, so data loss is common.

[rotund flume]

Ohhh really. Like bad because of hardware issues? I’ve got an extender for my flippydrive and it works well. I assume I’m good?

[tardy turret]

Yeah, I'd love a high-quality one with proper shielding, even if it's short. It's so convenient for Testing stuff on MiSTer.

(and saving the SD slot from damage, just not in my case)

[hard sinew]

For mister specifically or in general? Only one I use is in my gc loader.

[lost glen]

In general. Likesay, the spec doesn't allow for it so All Bets Are Off for data integrity

I still use them 😄 But I'm aware that if there are any issues, the very first thing to do for any troubleshooting is to ditch the extender and put the SD directly in the slot.

And I use UHS-III super hi speed rated shielded ones.

Not those £2 white ribbons, £15 chunky wrapped cables.

@rotund flume @tardy turret @hard sinew 👆 belated reply

[rotund flume]

Thank you!

Yeah I just use mine on my GameCube

Because I cannot be ARSED to disassemble my GameCube whenever I want to add a game to my sd card

ARSED

[hard sinew]

But as long as it works, it works! The gc loader is a bit of a hassle without it, since it's much smaller than the disc drive it replaces and I have a really nice 3d printed plug that has an sd extender inside that makes it all nice and flush and accessible.

[tardy turret]

Got a link to one for microSD?

[little tulip]

Yep

[rotund flume]

I like the garish colors myself lol

[hard sinew]

I feel like a lot of color corrections overdo it and make the picture very bland. The gbc now has pretty good color correction but for gba I'm not yet happy with the options we got.

[rotund flume]

@torn jay + @cinder peak is there a tool that an end user can use to generate a color palette for the GBA core?

[hard sinew]

Afaik this has already been asked and there are too many colors for a palette, as in several thousand. All you can do is math.

[rotund flume]

Ah, makes sense. Thank you.

[hard sinew]

I just regurgitate information I overheard and half understood, so take it with caution. 😅

[lost glen]

I've got two from these guys in use, both for raspberry pi things https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005671622003.html

[rotund flume]

Some said Pi, I’m here

[tardy turret]

Damn, the seller put up the fake 404 page because I'm American.

I know the 404 page is fake because I can see it using a VPN set to Canada.

[lost glen]

Oh, the ol' "No shipping to you!" page

Ah well. Look for UHS-III and a vendor who will. Or look locally (kinda!) on amazon etc

[cinder peak]

afaik nope, but you should develop one then, good idea!

[tardy turret]

This one looks to be the same:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809326697199.html?

[tardy turret]

Funny you mention Pi... I used to be ALL about Raspberry Pis running RetroPi, and now that I have 3 MiSTer setups, I have about 4 Raspberry Pis doing nothing. Even a brand new 8GB Pi 5, with no project.

FPGA has turned me into a retro gaming snob, lol.

[lost glen]

Yup, worth a try

[tardy turret]

I like it more-so for the low-latency controls. The Pi is abysmal, even over USB.

[lost glen]

Yup. It's like going to OLED, ruins you for other tech

[tardy turret]

I like OLED on my phone, but not for my games... Just because my favorite games would cause burn-in with their HUDs. Or if I leave the menu running without the screen dimmer feature on.

[lost glen]

You're about, umm, 7 years behind on oled tech really. They're no easier to burn in than IPS or other lcd tech

[rotund flume]

I did the opposite, got a MiSTer first then got into Pi’s lol

It really helped me appreciate how far things have come and how great we have it on the MiSTer

I love emulation in all forms; I buy console ports, I enjoy the Switch virtual console service, I use software emulators on my PC, I’m a huge fan of the mini consoles, and I love my Pi 5 & 500. But the MiSTer is my favorite.

There’s definitely no wrong or bad way to enjoy retro gaming, we are so spoked with amazing options.

[fervent spire]

Is there a way to scale GB/GBC games bigger on a CRT with the MiSTer? I can only seem to get it pixel perfect, so it's tiny

[hard sinew]

I don't think there is a good way. The GB is 166×140p so it won't properly fit a 240p window.

[fervent spire]

That's a shame bc the Game Boy Player on the Gamecube scales them much better on my CRT. Wish they had a 4x pixel size option on the GB core

[vast raven]

A 2X zoom cropped option (like the 5x option for some systems) would cut off 12 pixels at the top and 12 and bottom. As well as 3 pixels on both the left and right side. Gameboy games weren't designed with overscan, so it wouldn't be that great

[deep yarrow]

is gameboy player using 480i to do that?

[vast raven]

It's 480i/p depending on cable used

[deep yarrow]

shame the scaler cant generate interlaced output

[open shuttle]

Use a sgb border like shigeru intended

[tacit mural]

If you don't need one I'll take one. Lol. Sigh sucks when you realize you don't even have a pi around to run home assistant

But I have a 512gb ram 40 thread 96TB Proxmox server!

I don't even own a working laptop xD

[gray grail]

Beginner. 😂

[tacit mural]

I don't want to run a full desktop just for that lol

[tacit mural]

I know. I won't even argue.

It's been more of a fun project

[tacit mural]

I have my gaming desktop but I don't want to server that up lol

[lost glen]

Surely there's a home assistant docker you can toss on the proxmox, or vm

[remote fossil]

Yeah, HA can absolutely be run in docker or a VM

Running it on a Pi is probably the worst way to run it

[little tulip]

The color correction from here seems to be good
https://pokefan531.tumblr.com/

[hard sinew]

Oh no, it's brown pikachu all over again!

[rotund flume]

I have a GBC and Pikachu is not brown lol

That color choice is off

[hard sinew]

Maybe it's surfing Pikachu and spent too much time on the beach? Anyway, I think there is a difference between what is authentic and what looks good.

[rotund flume]

I don’t even think that’s authentic lol

Also the screen’s color vibrancy changes depending on the type of lighting and how much of it there is

[hard sinew]

I think the color correction on the chromatic is pretty spot on. The gb core used to have brown pikachu style color correction so I had to play with raw colors but that got fixed one or two updates ago, it's now also really good.

[deep yarrow]

oh the chromatic inherited that change? awesome

[hard sinew]

It had it before

Dunno if it's quite the same

[fervent spire]

https://tenor.com/view/killer-klownsfrom-outer-space-halloween-pie-face-clowns-scary-clowns-gif-5397737

Umm, could I have a Pi?

[fervent spire]

I don't use the offical Game Boy Player disc. I use Game Boy Interface instead, which is way better. It allows you to scale & align the screen freely.

[rotund flume]

I use the official GBPlayer disc because it costs a lot of money and I can flex on people who don't have it.

[tardy turret]

It also can be forced into 240p mode in Swiss.

[tardy turret]

Ever since I found GBi, I never went back.

[rotund flume]

lol I know, I'm kidding

I am too lazy for GBi, maybe if I swap the GBPlayer shell out I'll use it?

[tardy turret]

I need to find a cheap composite to HDMI scaler for my GameCube, because the native composite on my 4K TV adds about 500ms of lag, and playing games on it is impossible.

[rotund flume]

well it isn't cheap but the prism does a great job taking the digital video signal out and converting to hdmi

[tardy turret]

I just reshelled my cube, and added in a CubeODE.

Got a matching SC64 to flex

[rotund flume]

ohhhhhhhh that is very nice!

[tardy turret]

I need to buy the matching GB Player shell for it next, it's another $24.

[rotund flume]

yeah man do it, that's awesome!

[tardy turret]

Made my own I got this battle damaged CRT from my job for just $2.

[reef marlin]

I have the japanese one

[tardy turret]

Spice orange GB Player?

[reef marlin]

Platinum 🙁

[tardy turret]

Awe

Mine is black

[rotund flume]

is that rarer or cooler? Genuine question lol

[reef marlin]

I got the platinum just to match my platinum gamecube then put it on my purple one anyways and used gbib

[reef marlin]

It was cheaper lol

[rotund flume]

oh ok, I mean it sounds cooler

[tardy turret]

Are there button test pads on the GB Player PCB? I would think so right? 🤔

[rotund flume]

Japan gets nicer stuff

[reef marlin]

I bought a japanese gamecube with it like 8 years ago just to use it gbplayer

[cinder peak]

Robby you ever see my prototype super Gameboy?

[rotund flume]

no, I'd love to see it

[reef marlin]

I'm looking forward to getting a flippy drive within the next month. Ordered it like at least two months ago

Then i don't have to use twilight princess to boot gbi

[tardy turret]

The fact that I can watch anime on my GameCube blows my mind.

[rotund flume]

I worked for a toy company in Ft. Lauderdale for a year and the VP had a wooden Game & Watch given to him as a present from Gunpei Yokoi. What the hell is that doing in Florida? He worked at Rare and was relocated to their Miami offices which was a licensing business but he was a Rare old timer and when they shut that office down he stayed in FL because him and his family liked it.

[cinder peak]

Bought it from salvation army like 30 years ago

Thq employee must have left it there

[rotund flume]

hell yeah Toy Headquarters

[reef marlin]

I'm telling thq

[rotund flume]

I sometimes wish I was unscrupulous because I'd have a bunch of badass Nintendo DS, Wii, and Wii U devkits lol

[cinder peak]

I didn't realize it was anything special till I unboxed it and looked at it a few years ago again lmao

[tardy turret]

I'm tempted to turn my Super Game Boy into a dedicated Pokemon Yellow cart with link port.

I have a Super Game Boy 2 I use more, so.

[cinder peak]

Sys-sgb X2, prototype sgb bios

[tardy turret]

Does it do anything different?

[cinder peak]

Not that I could tell

[tardy turret]

Has it been dumped?

[rotund flume]

what it does differently is it lets him flex on us with impunity and we can't do shit about it

just gotta take the L

[cinder peak]

I sent it to modern vintage gamer in a message to see if he could find anything but he ghosted me because he probably hates MiSTer people or something

[cinder peak]

Yes

It got randomly uploaded to some other site after I dumped it and sent it to mvg mysteriously

I sent it to another person who does dev stuff for Gameboy too

In the emu scene

So probably was them

I was just curious if it did anything different.

[tardy turret]

He either shared it, or that was just unscrupulous timing that someone else dumped theirs

Would a hex comparison be of any use?

[cinder peak]

I did that and I remember it being very minimal in differences

[tardy turret]

I use the SGB 2 BIOS on my FX PAK, Analogue Pocket, and MiSTer in place of the standard one.

I also prefer the PSOne BIOS over the PSX BIOS options. The white is just a cleaner look. Especially in the CD player.

[rotund flume]

you are 100% right and my brain completely agrees with you

but my heart, it wants the shitty bios

I cannot control it

[reef marlin]

I want the shitty bios reminds me of the days of flipping the playstation upside down to play game

[tardy turret]

I love love LOVE that MiSTer plays PS1 (and audio CDs!) so damn well!

I stuffed a whole-ass MiSTer setup into a PS1 shell with working SNAC ports wired to the front.

I even have Zaparoo under the lid now.

[rotund flume]

Holy shit did that’s so cool

[tardy turret]

It's setup to auto boot directly into the PSX core BIOS as well, so it appears as stock as possible to a real PS1.

[rotund flume]

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-he-is-the-one-gif-14744864

[tardy turret]

I beat Taki to the punch. 😂

[hard sinew]

Did anybody play the game boy game "where is my body?" ? Looks interesting.

[tender cosmos]

Is anyone selling User Port to GB link cable adapters?

[unique radish]

I got mine from Misterfpga co uk

Requires one of them adapter things though.

The level shifter thing.

[tacit mural]

@thorn atlas thanks for the Zero Mission recommend over Fusion. I've been playing it for the first time using the Project Zero Mission hack. The routing is really good. Not had to look up much at all. (I got stuck once because I somehow got to the ice beam room without ever grabbing morph ball bombs lol.... Also the shinespark puzzles are really annoying... Ugh

But I'm making progress.

[thorn atlas]

oh, what's the hack do?

I hadn't heard of it

[tacit mural]

It's a very vanilla+ hack that does minimal improvements

Sec ill grab the main change list

[thorn atlas]

ill take the list, you can keep the sex

[tacit mural]

oops xD

[tacit mural]

But yeah it's a very loyal hack and I've really been enjoying it as a first time playthrough

I'm usually very careful about hack choices for games I haven't played but this looked like a solid option. I don't like radical changes when playing something new

[tacit mural]

I am curious what you think tbh. Haha

[thorn atlas]

With guys or girls.. why are you asking?

[tacit mural]

..... I swear @thorn atlas 🤣 I mean what did you think of the hack.

[thorn atlas]

I think they are mostly just smoothing out edges and making it more speedrunner friendly

and a few bugfixes/qol things

overall seems positive and inoffensive

[tacit mural]

Cool. I liked your opinions of the franchise we spoke of so I was curious if anything felt off.

[hard sinew]

I ordered a gbx3 from kirikzz and I did not appreciate how close to the russian border those ship from.

[slow cradle]

I just saw "Made in Ukraine" when I opened up my SD2SNES. That was purchased before the war got bigger. I felt sad in that moment. I hope Krikzz is doing ok

I remember back in... 2017 or so... I purchased some items directly from him and my bank instantly called me up less than a minute after I clicked to pay.

Security dept. I told them it was all good. heh

[hard sinew]

Iirc krikzz disappeared for a few days when the invasion started and later posted "this is hell" from his basement or something. Got us really worried there.

[raven arrow]

Oh yeah, it kind of was/is

Had rockets show up in my place

[hard sinew]

Man I really hope you guys get all the support you need.

[hard sinew]

I'm a machine.

[fallen harbor]

Damn you and your Chromatic

I’m going to cave one of these days

[hard sinew]

Rulseset made his own firmware for it that supports bluetooth audio. I'd like to see what you can cook up since it's open source.

[hard sinew]

Speaking of my chromatic, I had the membrane of the A button torn after about 3 months. I contacted customer service after opening the device to see why the button felt all wrong and they sent me a replacement via Express to Europe, no questions asked.

Just installed it.

[rotund flume]

yeah I wouldn’t ask about you tearing your “a” either

[hard sinew]

Robby, you wouldn't need to ask. That's what rimjobs are for.

[torn jay]

Crystal or gold/silver?

[hard sinew]

A romhack of crystal, patched crystal. It's very close to the original but all pokemon are available.

[torn jay]

very nice. Never played 2nd gen so deep, but i guess it's easier with the hack to get things like trade-evolutions

[hard sinew]

Yeah and they left a bunch of gen1 pokemon like the starters and legendaries completely out. You basically need 5 games to complete crystal.

[torn jay]

Maybe I should take a look. So far it always felt like cheating to use these, especially if they make it too easy

[hard sinew]

I tried a few pokemon romhacks and they all seem to throw out the baby with the bathwater. To my mind the only fix Pokemon needs is to remove the predatory practices to get you to buy 2 games. For gen1 I didn't find one that's to my taste so I made one myself, for gen2 patched crystal certainly fits the bill.

[rotund flume]

It’s just an accessibility feature. There’s no skill involved in having two copies of the game and endless time to find and trade them all.

[rotund flume]

It can be viewed as predatory and I think these days it would definitely be considered that but the design for them is to encourage trading between kids, not at all for a kid to buy two copies of the game.

[hard sinew]

Even if it's trading between kids it still heavily encourages the kids to talk their friends into buying the game as well.

[rotund flume]

I don’t think it does, there’s no game direction to do that.

At least I don’t remember lol.

[hard sinew]

Let me say it like that: it traumatized me so hard I came back 25 years later to literally break the game so I can finally "catch them all", as was the indoctrination at the time.

[rotund flume]

Hahah yeah that was quite literally the tag line of the marketing.

Hmmm, fair point there.

can’t collect em all with one game

[hard sinew]

Acting like a game exists in a vacuum is really myopic imo.

[rotund flume]

I don’t understand

[hard sinew]

Referring to this. Even if the game doesn't explicitly says ingame to tell your friends to buy the other version it still tells you to catch them all and the marketing at the time did the rest.

[rotund flume]

man, even when I’m having a nice debate and being open to understand your side and happily accepting it I get insulted lol

can’t win today

[unique radish]

You can win if you finally release that Gamecom core

It's been years

[hard sinew]

Sorry I didn't mean to insult you. My grasp of the English language isn't perfect, I meant no harm.

[rotund flume]

Oh no problem. Thank you though.

[hard sinew]

What was the insult so I can avoid it next time?

[rotund flume]

It is subtle. Myopic is basically saying you’re being short sighted about something or at the minimum implying someone is being short sighted.

While it can be true, it’s a more aggressive way of informing someone that there are other aspects of the topic to consider instead of one specific example.