Sega Saturn

[grim snow]

I'm sorry, did discord compress the hell out of my images? I can't tell on my end lol

The compass at the bottom is getting cut off

compared to this beautiful gameplay over here

[tall radish]

it wasn’t a problem for me last time I played, but I should boot it up on the newest version of the core

[grim snow]

This was a problem for me on the update all core too

[burnt matrix]

Not having an issue

[burnt matrix]

Check your Ini settings or just replace it with the latest default one

[grim snow]

What ini setting should I change? Hydlide is the only game I'm having an issue with

[tall radish]

I’m running with just plain integer scaling at 1440, not sure if that’d impact the result

[burnt matrix]

That’s weird

[grim snow]

hmmm maybe I messed something up when I was trying to get my mister to output to my CRT monitor

let me check what my settings are real quick

brb

[burnt matrix]

You said it was a problem for you on the update core though

[grim snow]

hold on I'll double check

[burnt matrix]

Playing guardian heroes and lol what is this portrait art

It’s like some kid submitted their Howard and nester fan art to Nintendo power

[hearty carbon]

😄

[grim snow]

This is what I get on update all, same thing

[burnt matrix]

You mean the bottom lines are cut off in update all?

Rename your ini to like “mister_backup.ini” and copy a fresh new one from here and see if you have the same issue - https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/blob/master/MiSTer.ini

[grim snow]

Thanks, copied it over. brb

[inner token]

could try taking a screenshot in the core and not a pic. that would prove it's not your tv like some have theorized.

[grim snow]

How do I do that?

Oh I see I need my keyboard

One sec

[hallow fossil]

Oh nice that SNAC is starting to get supported, good effort blue. Mouse and light gun support on the cards? Is there USB mouse support yet?

[burnt matrix]

@winter phoenix

[winter phoenix]

You know what? …I’m not gonna argue with this 😆 I don’t like Treasure’s art style in this game or Radiant Silvergun

[native dagger]

I finally tried that Lupin game VGE shows the case of and its such a novel game

[burnt matrix]

Why does the lady on the right look like a toon town hobo

[inner token]

yeah someone wanted usb mouse support and Robby put in a request. it got added to the pad type selection in osd now so good chance it gets added.

[burnt matrix]

huehuehue

[grim snow]

Screenshot from saturn core

[burnt matrix]

@pearl harbor I thought you’d might like this one

[burnt matrix]

Did the Ini thing work

Did you check audio and video settings on the Saturn core?

[grim snow]

Nope, that’s with the fresh ini

[burnt matrix]

Might be your TV?

[grim snow]

Let me look again, I couldn’t find anything that changed it

[inner token]

dang it Robby his tv wouldn't make the screenshot be the wrong size.

[winter phoenix]

She’s a Costco witch

[grim snow]

These are my video settings

Wait my bad

I just fiddled with them all again, didn’t fix anything

[grim snow]

oh hold on I might be very stupid

[grim snow]

I think this might be the PAL version

do PAL games cause any issues like that normally?

I know the resolution is different but shouldn't it still scale?

[thorn pagoda]

is it the pal version but you're forcing the console region to US?

cos that would look exactly like that come to think of it

575 lines truncated down to 480

[burnt matrix]

oh LOL you’re right, I was still thinking about the previous photos.

PAL, not even once

[grim snow]

Yup, just changed the region to Europe. I didn’t think to do that because I’m running Hitachi Saturn

Problem solved

[pearl harbor]

I know the feeling Robby. I don't have any PALs either...

[burnt matrix]

Hooray it’s solved!

[naive whale]

Don’t you and taco hang out? Everyone in Wisconsin knows everyone else

[grim snow]

Lol well thank you all for being such PALs and helping me out 🙏

I really appreciate it

[inner token]

🙂 I thought you were messing with me, since I just said take a screenshot to see if it's tv settings

[pearl harbor]

That would require me leaving my house.

[burnt matrix]

lol sorry

Virtual Hydlide is the gift that keeps on giving

[grim snow]

Sega does what Nintendon’t

[pearl harbor]

Or rather, it's the gift that Awbacon keeps on giving me. I keep trying to send it back, but he keeps sending it back to me. Bothersome chap that bacon!

[burnt matrix]

@grim snow play that Formula Karts game

It’s a cool PAL exclusivo

[grim snow]

Looks sick, I’ll check it out 👍 thanks for the recommend

Are there any horror games on the system worth checking out?

[burnt matrix]

There was that one Saturn game made by a deranged criminal

[grim snow]

I just beat Galerians for PS1. I love weird 90s horror games but it seems the Saturn comes up short? So far Enemy Zero and Baroque stick out most (no spoilers pls)

[grim snow]

I’m sorry, what?

[burnt matrix]

Nights into Dreams

[grim snow]

OH YEAH XD

[burnt matrix]

[naive whale]

You won it fair and square

Then posted a photo of a minor holding my very mature review 🤣

[burnt matrix]

you guys missed my awesome joke, I am very proud of it

He asked about a horror game and I was like “wat about game made by deranged criminal”

Then I said nights because Yuji Naka is in jail

[grim snow]

Is he actually in jail now?

[burnt matrix]

probably lol

[grim snow]

Bad ending acquired

[winter phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-chuckle-laugh-funny-gif-4767136

[grim snow]

To get the good ending you have to develop a Sonic game for the Sega Saturn

[winter phoenix]

No he got probation

And a fine

[burnt matrix]

If he just made sonic for the Saturn all this could’ve been avoided

My dream is someone rom hacks sonic jam into a full 3d sonic game

Because that is super fun to run around in

[grim snow]

That would be fun

Are there people still making Sonic “xtreme” fangames?

Any of them come out

Are they any good?

[native dagger]

I just played that tonight! I was awful at it!

[burnt matrix]

Yeah it’s kind of hard lol

[grim snow]

So really no weird horror games worth checking out besides Baroque and Enemy Zero? Is Deep Fear as meh as I’ve been hearing?

[winter phoenix]

There’s a team slowly working on a Sonic Adventure type of game for Saturn. There are already several “recreations” of Sonic Xtreme that fans have made in recent years.

[native dagger]

There are some weird fmv-ish horror games I've checked out

There's the Frankenstein game starring Tim Curry

[grim snow]

Hold on it stars Tim Curry

Why was the game not just called Tim Curry?

[burnt matrix]

Frankenstein’s - Through the eyes of the Monster

[grim snow]

I would not have been so quick to skim over it lmao

[burnt matrix]

There’s Mansion of Hidden Souls, sorta creepy?

Alone in the Dark came out for Saturn

[grim snow]

I already love the name

[burnt matrix]

Ohh ohh

Phantasmagoria

[winter phoenix]

R:MJ The Mystery Hospital, it’s got an in-progress English translation patch on SegaXtreme

[burnt matrix]

There’s a translation for it

[native dagger]

Mansion of hidden souls is kinda hilarious with how they depict characters

Everyone is a floating head?

[grim snow]

Where should I start in the Alone in the Dark series?

[burnt matrix]

Any, there’s a story but you can get caught up on it in two sentences

[grim snow]

Oh my god you’re not kidding

That’s hilarious

[inner token]

there's Phantasmagoria, it's about 10 discs

[burnt matrix]

yeah it’s uhhh something lol

[grim snow]

David Lynch definitely played Mansion of Hidden Souls

[burnt matrix]

I actually should check it out, I think it might be the only way to play it on MiSTer

[grim snow]

Is this kinda like D where the entire game is video?

[grim snow]

Lol that one’s point and click right?

I love me a good horror point and click

[inner token]

ha, i just scrolled up. I didn't do it on purpose

[grim snow]

The Cat Lady is one of my all time favorite games

[winter phoenix]

Yep, you navigate it like Myst basically

[burnt matrix]

Castlevania is kinda like horror

No transparencies

[grim snow]

I couldn’t get into Symphony of the Night. I love Rondo of Blood and Super Castlevania 4 though

[burnt matrix]

DeathMask is another FMV horror game

[grim snow]

Am I stupid?

[burnt matrix]

no, you don’t like it you don’t like it

[native dagger]

Dark Seed looks interesting but I'm not sure if there's an English version

[burnt matrix]

Oh yeah Dark Seed

[grim snow]

I tried playing Dark Seed on PC with a friend

I should restart it on my own

[burnt matrix]

I played that as a kid, that shit mentally scarred me LOL

[naive whale]

Tellytubbies scarred you

[burnt matrix]

and now I watch video game esoterica on YouTube

[naive whale]

Robby is just this

[grim snow]

Tellytubbies is HP Lovecraft for children, change my mind

[burnt matrix]

it’s true!

[native dagger]

What exactly is the custard

[naive whale]

Eldritch tubbies

On that pearl of wisdom I’m going to bed 🤣

[winter phoenix]

On PC, yes

[grim snow]

Was it just me or was the instruction manual not clear on how to play the game?

[winter phoenix]

The Saturn version’s text is super easy to edit (ask me how I know) but probably would require some hacking to give more room for the English script

[winter phoenix]

Never seen the manual

[grim snow]

Thanks for the horror game recommendations everyone!!! I'm going to check them all out 🙏

It's getting late for me too, I'm gonna go to bed

Goodnight y'all!

[pearl harbor]

I may or may not have done that. 👀

[drifting frigate]

While 3DO is still better, IMO, Road Rash is playing supahfine on the core. Minor graphical glitches in the hud, but I'm not even sure those aren't in the original.

[serene thunder]

Anywan played this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner_of_Ice

[drifting frigate]

Not on the current core, but it worked the last few.

The translated patch that is.

[serene thunder]

I just mean in general - Is it any good

[drifting frigate]

It's not bad. I prefer Beneath a Steel Sky for that feel, personally.

But it's pretty good.

[hearty carbon]

I have Beneath a Steel Sky on GoG but have never played it.

[serene thunder]

I'm drawn to all the awesome artwork in PC adventure games

[drifting frigate]

Yeah, they are pretty great. I'm a HUUUUUGE Lucasfilm Adventure fan, and the art is a big part of that.

[hearty carbon]

I always heard it was a good one.

Just one of those things I never got around to

[craggy horizon]

Yep. I just updated my SDRAM module from 2.5 to 3.0 hoping it might cure some of the audio issues (per other people's reports), but it made no difference.

[mortal mist]

No one has ever given a clear answer as to what affects such core performance with different sdram versions. As I see some with 3.0 have the same problem as with 2.5.

That's why I would be afraid to recommend buying the 3.0 just for Saturn.

[zealous karma]

Interesting. I thought the 3.0 version would fix my issues

[burnt matrix]

Core isn’t done yet

Just wait

[zealous karma]

we all know this Robby 🙂

[burnt matrix]

Then people need to stop throwing money at solutions and patiently wait

[zealous karma]

however ram is cheap, and if it fixes it now I wouldnt mind getting a 3.0. But If its a hit and miss, then yeah better wait

[zealous karma]

let people do what they wanna do

[mortal mist]

My 2.9 sdrams have a stable 143 to 145/146 and the Saturn runs ok, works well even with 2.4.

[burnt matrix]

I can’t stop people but I can also remind people to just wait patiently until the core is done

have patience

[zealous karma]

My MMS with stable 141 is not running well with the core

[burnt matrix]

Someone is going to get mad that they spent $70 on ram and it didn’t fix their issues

this is why it’s important to continually remind that the core isn’t done

there is no magic solution

[mortal mist]

My conscience does not allow me to recommend people 3.0 just for Saturn. "Buy because it will start working " unfortunately this is not certain.

[zealous karma]

It would be interesting to get statistical data of users with 2.5 rams that when switched to 3.0 didnt fix Saturn issues

[burnt matrix]

it’s like those goobers that said “this arcade core won’t work unless you have dual ram” and then like a few weeks later after everyone bought their dual ram went “this core won’t work at all”

People got rightfully mad at them

[zealous karma]

hehe the "MOaR RaaAAM" croud. Yeah I´m looking at you @twin canyon 😂

[burnt matrix]

it’s why I’m sensitive to recommending people upgrade ram

[zealous karma]

Just tried yesterdays core and it is worse on my system than the latest from Update_all. More crashes and sound issues. Oh well

[burnt matrix]

You said you have a MMS?

[zealous karma]

yes

[burnt matrix]

Have you tried running it with just a bare de10 and ram stick, not connected to the MMS?

[zealous karma]

I havent. You think I should try?

[burnt matrix]

I think so.

[zealous karma]

OK, will do it for science 🙂

[wise brook]

if I was a 2.5 owner planning to upgrade, I'd message a reputable seller and say I'm going to buy with intent to return, if the ram test doesn't hit the necessary benchmarks.

any seller worth their salt should be up for it

[zealous karma]

I´ll post back the results

[native dagger]

Check out how crazy this intro to a pinball game is https://youtu.be/kfyv5w6Ai9I?si=fJ_oEZeI6xdN4YwR

[burnt matrix]

Haha yeah I have that in my game list

Pinball Graffiti is also just as wild

[native dagger]

I gotta check that one out soon

[zealous karma]

So the experiment was a fail. I disconnected the DE10 from the MMS, broke off the SDRAM from the MMS board. And tried it on its own on the DE10. When launching Saturn Core I got to the SATURN splashscreen and navigated to the games in the OSD. But when I load a game the Saturn splashscreen with the spinning pieces comes on without sound and then black screen on all games. So I must have messed up the memory somehow. Anyway I built the DE10-nano in my old OG Mister case with my old 2.5 SDRAM and it works. So not mad about it.
I´m having separate conversations with Ultimatemister and see if they can produce a 3.0 SDRAM in horizontal orientation, now that they also sell the MMS. So if and when they produce it, I will try it agian with my MMS.

[stiff patrol]

you shouldnt have snapped the memory off the MMS

as far as I know you cannot ever rettach it now

[zealous karma]

you are supposed to be able to snap it off. Its on their documentation. If you did it properly you can reincert the DE10 into the MMS board with the broken off SDRAM attached to the DE10

[stiff patrol]

how does the ram have a connector on it ?

[zealous karma]

when you attach the DE10 to the MMS, you attach the pins on the DE10 to the RAM module. So if you snap off the ram module you can still attach it to the DE 10. It is pre-cut so that you can snap off the ram if you would need new ram in the future

[stiff patrol]

thats from the docs

so that connector is normally connected to the MMS ram on the board ?

This is why i dont like these non standard boards there seems no reason to force this on the customers

[zealous karma]

I dont understand what you mean. The ram module on the MMS is like any other module only its in horizontal layout. And its hold in place to the MMS by small tabs to the MMS board. You are able to snap off the ram board as there are no traces damaged on the MMS by doing so

[stiff patrol]

it would mean the ram would be sticking out from the edge of the DE10 when fitted

[zealous karma]

THink of the MMS like a big IO board, with a ram module thats hold in place by plastic so you attach the DE10 to the IO and ram at the same time

[stiff patrol]

thats really strange orientation

the MMS has wierd ram path lengths compared to a "normal" ram stcik so its no wonder it fails on the tight timimgs needed for the saturn core

[zealous karma]

the ram and IO board are in the same layer so instead of sticking up to the top it goes to the side in the same plane as the rest of the IO board

[zealous karma]

this is just speculation by you, even 3.0 rams fail

[stiff patrol]

no its been observed by many MMS ownerrs

3.0 and 2.9 conventional has always worked for me

[zealous karma]

something is up with the MMS ram maybe. Keep in mind every othe core works as it should

[stiff patrol]

saturn pushes ram harder than any other core

other cores are not a good comparison

[zealous karma]

not sure what its pushing, but 141Mhz is quite high and thats what my MMS ram was running stable at

[stiff patrol]

its the way it access the ram

its doing some clever stuff no other core does

and since its being developed on conventional ram its only tested against those

[zealous karma]

I looked at the ram board and the chips seems to be the Alliance chips, so nothing weird there

[stiff patrol]

all the non standard rams have been having issues both the 4 chip and the MMS ram

its not the ram itself its been speculated the MMS has longer traces to the chips so the timimgs change

[zealous karma]

conventional ram <2.9 fails too though

[stiff patrol]

yes < 2.9 doesnt have the same smoothing caps

so its more sensitive

thats why people are having issues with 2.5

[zealous karma]

anyway, I probably broke my ram. So when I get a new horizontal 3.0 I will test with MMS again

[stiff patrol]

what does memtest say ?

does the chip pass memtest ?

[zealous karma]

It ran stable at 141

[stiff patrol]

yes but now after you snapped it out

[zealous karma]

oh, never tested as games didnt even load and sound in the bios animation was missing

[stiff patrol]

well if you run it now

and memtest fails

you know you wrecked it

[zealous karma]

I think Im already positive i wrecked it. No big deal though as it ran as good/bad as my current old 2.5 sdram

[stiff patrol]

I think Robby was measning to take the DE10 out put a conventional stick in and use that, not remove your MMS ram

[inner token]

I think the main take away here is never ever listen to Robby

[stiff patrol]

well memtest will take you a few minutes to confirm

[zealous karma]

hey it doesnt matter what he meant. whats done is done. I knew something could go wrong so Im not blaming Robby. It was my decision. Like I said I had my backup old case IO, USB hub and ram so all good

[stiff patrol]

and what memory is in your old case ?

2.5 ?

[zealous karma]

yeah, so I get same issues I had with MMS

But now Im more flexible in getting a 3.0

[stiff patrol]

My 2.5 clocked at 144 and was still bad. My 2,9 clocked at 150

and has been fine

[mortal mist]

My 2.9 is 143 , 145 and 146 , Saturn works ok , with 2.4 works ok

[inner token]

yeah I'm just joking, I think the plan for another horizontal ram is good if you want to use mms again. but you may still have issue in that orientation

[stiff patrol]

I dont think there is enough market to justify a production run

[inner token]

might be able to reflow the snapped off one

[zealous karma]

Yeah, I might do that and test

[burnt matrix]

I’m sorry that happened. I didn’t know the ram needed to be or could be snapped off? Sounds dangerous.

But yeah you’re right it’s designed to be snapped off.

[zealous karma]

No worries Robby, I was getting annoyed by the MMS due to the fixed ram performance anyway so all good 🙂

[burnt matrix]

that’s kind of a cool design

that way you can upgrade

[zealous karma]

the benefit of MMS is basically the IO are in the right place and it has built in SNAC so its nice. If I get hold of a 3.0 horizontal ram I will for sure go back to the MMS

[umbral radish]

has anybody tried the new updated "X-Men Arcade v0.2.0" on the core yet? If so, has anybody managed to get it to work? For me, it seems to hang after the character select screen, just wondering if anyone has had more suucess than me.

[naive whale]

Yes i have a vid on it I’ll probably run today at 4

[umbral radish]

Thanks, I'll keep an eye open for it later,

[severe whale]

When can we expect cheats to be added to the core?

[mortal mist]

Probably when the core is completed or close to completion

[supple vine]

Does the built-in SNAC in MMS even work with PSX correctly (SNAX compatible)?

I feel like the MMS is losing its appeal now that new memory is out, a new IO board is out with 24bit VGA support, and SNAC requires level shifters to be compatible with PSX.

[stiff patrol]

probbaly never. The core occupies almost all of the FPGA as is

[inner token]

psx, and n64 are both 3.3v same as the fpga. They do NOT require level shifting. MMS had some jumpers or switches you'll have to check the manual for what they do.

[supple vine]

Oh ok. Does this mean there's no real need for a special SNAC for psx? I bought the SNAX adapter from MiSTerAddons specifically because I thought the regular SNAC adapter was incompatible with psx. But maybe that was just a MiSTerAddons specific thing.

[severe whale]

Ok :/

[supple vine]

Anyways I doubt the MMS can be updated to support the new 24bit VGA.

The reduced color resolution and corresponding banding of the old IO boards really destroys VGA out IMO.

[inner token]

yeah psx should work with snax, and not with his older snac board iirc. I think you may need to change the switch on mms when you're using 3v3 stuff to be correct. but it might technically work either way. You have it and never tried it?

[supple vine]

No I don't have it, but I was thinking of getting one when it came out. At least one of my friends has it.

I just went the cheapo route: De10 from Mouser, I/O board from MisterAddons, 3d printed MiSter Case Universal v5.2 from Thingiverse, external Amazon 10 port USB2 hub, and I recently upgraded my memory to v3.0.

[burnt matrix]

I wanted to buy an MMS as I liked the consoles aesthetic but it was sold out

[twin canyon]

how'd you find me? GOOGLE?

[drifting frigate]

Are you sponsored content? Because that's all I can find on Google anymore.

[twin canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/this-has-been-a-sponsored-message-jared-dines-sponsored-ad-paid-segment-gif-19971032

[misty raven]

https://tenor.com/view/waynes-world-reebok-ufc-sell-out-sold-out-gif-21320780

[ripe valley]

Astal sounds will be fixed.

https://github.com/srg320/Main_MiSTer/commit/4e375cec49afeb6b093c386196f8a53e5fbbd49c

At the moment, it's just on srg320's repository since yesterday.

[burnt matrix]

I can’t believe @twin canyon is a mod on MisterAddon’s discord lmao

[drifting frigate]

I can't believe it's not Blisster!

</s>

[craggy horizon]

I wanted to get into v3.0 SDRAM anyway, so it wasn't wasted money.

[burnt matrix]

Yeah sorry, not sure if my later post came across but my chief concern is people investing money in a solution that may or may not resolve it for them. Thats it.

[craggy horizon]

Understandable.

[burnt matrix]

I do want it to, I really do. I also hope once the core is in fantastic shape that some time can be spent on ram timing optimization.

Everyone should be loving Saturn!

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/segata-sanshiro-nod-yes-gif-5612081

[craggy horizon]

Did anyone else catch in the Sonic movies where one of the planets on the map is the Saturn logo?

Sadly, it is marked as an unsafe world...

[naive whale]

whoever asked if X-Men works on the core go see #share-media

[burnt matrix]

lol these Dark Hunter games

It’s like one of @lusty rapids’s anime’s with full English voice acting

[sudden tusk]

Is the latest unstable in update_all

[misty raven]

no

[sudden tusk]

Fuck

[burnt matrix]

haw haw git gud

[misty raven]

theres a script for the unstable cores in the pins

[sudden tusk]

Word

[burnt matrix]

Interesting, Virtua Fighter Kids says it’s not compatible with the console even though I have auto region set

maybe it’s for the best?

[native dagger]

Did you reset after switching discs?

[burnt matrix]

Yeah, didn’t work or when launching directly from an MGL

[prisma wraith]

auto region has never worked for me. i always have to switch it manually

[naive whale]

Odd. That’s been pretty foolproof for me usually

[prisma wraith]

Sometimes when resetting games it doesn't restart them properly also. Just goes to the CD player instead, and then when I reset again the game properly reboots

[mortal mist]

With unstable mister main ?

[prisma wraith]

Ah no I just have the latest MiSTer main from the updater when the core released there on the 23rd

[mortal mist]

This is required for the automatic region

[drifting frigate]

Just to taunt @burnt matrix

[burnt matrix]

You know what? I’m playing Sonic!!

Look, it’s a fat baby Sonic

[drifting frigate]

Mr. Potato Headge

[naive whale]

This game is only for pro players @burnt matrix not gaming babies

[native dagger]

That's a good looking game

[drifting frigate]

It's SO good looking.

And fun to play

[native dagger]

The kid that looks like an old man stumbling around drunk is an interesting choice

[burnt matrix]

DAMNIT LMAO

[naive whale]

Kids get drunk too you know. High school me would have a 12 pack of high life on the weekends in the field parties

(And yes I grew up in VT. It’s that classic field party you see on tv and in movies)

[sudden tusk]

Better field parties in Wisconsin

[grim snow]

Probably why Sonic never went there to give us a real Sonic game. That's a cool detail actually.

[naive whale]

Looser women at least. Cause your mom was there

[left hollow]

His mom was the field and everyone was on it

[naive whale]

@sudden tusk mom is like a field. Everyone is welcome and most don’t go home til the sun comes up

Also @pearl harbor stop posting photos of your house online

[drifting frigate]

AI AI AI, Papi no....

[grim snow]

Hay all! Quick question, I noticed in Saturn video settings there is a 320x224 aspect setting. What is the difference between "Original" and "Corrected"?

[prisma wraith]

thanks! I didnt realize that main hasnt been updated in that long.. lots of stuff in the pipeline since then

its like genesis option, though not really useful on saturn as far as i can tell, as its all made for 4:3 presentation

[grim snow]

Thanks! Wasn't really sure as I never owned a Saturn before.

[prisma wraith]

If anyone has an example where it's useful I'm all eyes, but I have not seen it yet.

[dim tulip]

Are there any discernible differences between the 2.9/2.4?

I know the core is very much still in development, but following the performance quirks different folks experience is fascinating. On my end, with both of my setups having 3.0 ram, I haven’t run into any unique quirks. Performance seems good overall.

It just seems strange that there’s that much variance. Some people with 2.5/2.4 ram report good performance on par with 2.9/3.0, and sometimes the opposite occurs. I’ve wondered if there’s another hardware element that could impact performance.

[prisma wraith]

wow, the single bug I noticed in Darius Gaiden from my 1cc video last week is fixed with the latest core. the speed of progress lately is crazy

[rotund steeple]

New Mister unstable

[Sergiy Dvodnenko 2024-03-31 a227b0b] Saturn: finish reading one sector when a PLAY command is immediately interrupted by a SEEK command (Astal sound stutters)

[prisma wraith]

i should try to boot alpha 3 again..

damn sf zero/alpha 3 actually has a regression for me. wont even play the intro anymore, just black screen after the capcom logo. using latest core build and unstable

[rotund steeple]

SF Zero 3 works fine for me. Using the lastest Mister unstable and Saturn core.

[sacred goblet]

I notice that the core does not memorize the region setting. When i set it on Auto when i restart my mister the setting is lost.

[rotund steeple]

Mmh, stays at "Auto" for me, after reloading the core/restart the Mister. Have you saved the core settings with "Auto"?

[sacred goblet]

I did not see the option to save settings. Thanks !

[wise brook]

ha, I hadn't expected that to be a MiSTer main fix

[prime grove]

What Saturn game is best to test if my SDRAM is "good" ?

[drifting frigate]

Sega Rally

Astal does sound better! It's missing his Ikkusho at the beginning still.

Or it was for me, anyway.

[prime grove]

Does it need to be running for a while or does it crash (or whatever it does) fast if the SDRAM isn't good enough?

[drifting frigate]

It will white screen if the RAM is too slow and won't play some sounds if the latency is too high.

So you should know pretty quickly

[prime grove]

I think i'm OK then

[drifting frigate]

The ram test in utilities in the main menu is a great check, too.

Sweet!

[prime grove]

I soldered them myself. Think it was the first 128MB revision

[drifting frigate]

146MHz is sort of the event horizon. Below that, people start seeing odd things. Then below 143 it gets dicier.

[prime grove]

Only get 140mhz out of mine :/

[drifting frigate]

But the proof is in the pudding! If stuff is playing, you're in good shape!

[prime grove]

Yeah... I haven't noticed anything strange

[drifting frigate]

Try Afterburner on Sega Ages, too. But sounds like you're sorted

[drifting frigate]

I've only bought prebuilt RAM. I did a few I/O boards when I first started, but it's worth the time savings. I have so much broken stuff to fix I try to spend my soldering time on that.

[drifting frigate]

Yeah, my playthrough just had the score and this power up sound. I bet if I reset it'll be there, though. That's how my sound errors tend to go. They are intermittent...I'm being gaslit by Scene Kid Danzig.

See.

Because he's short.

[drifting frigate]

Anyone else noticing XMvsSF is failing in a predictable way lately? It used to hang randomly. Sometimes at the title screen. Sometimes at character select. Often at the stage loading grid. Then randomly if you could get further. Now it seems consistently happeningō when your opponent swaps characters the first time. If it's not just confirmation bias since it's happened like 5 times to me in as many attempts, that is.

repro steps:

Enable 4mb
launch the XMvsSF disc image
Let the intro play full through. Because you're working hard and deserve a moment of joy watching Cammie attempt murder while a Japanese vagrant and a cat pointer on angel dust try to stop the Russian robodevil.
Once instructed to push start, do so.
Pick Ryu and Wolverine and Turbo.
Start the fight. Normally Rogue will come out first.

Result: When the first opponent switches with their secondary, the system will freeze

Anyone want to try those exact steps and see if the tag out is tripping it up for you?

I can get varying amounts of time into a round, but it always freezes on the change.

[mortal mist]

I can hear Ikkusho at the beginning 🙂

[drifting frigate]

I just watched it back. Definitely missed it. But like I said...another playthrough is just as likely to have it.

https://we.tl/t-QASilUe57U About 4 minutes in.

[mortal mist]

I had a problem with missing sounds earlier , I reset the settings for core and everything started working ok

[wise brook]

I hope Astal gets a game of the month nomination, it's about as beautiful as sprite art gets and most gamers haven't even heard of it

[serene thunder]

Lomax for PSX also has kookoo artwork

[ripe valley]

It freezes randomly on my systems even with the last core version.
Yesterday was on the main title screen, the other day was on the first battle loading, another day when the FIGHT word was displayed.

[craggy horizon]

Are the latest two unstable builds of MiSTer main refusing to boot for anyone else?

Was hoping to try out the fix for the Astal audio, but the 20240331 unstable main won't boot. (Nor will 20240329. 20240324 still boots fine though.)

[mortal mist]

Everything works correctly as far as I'm concerned , tested on two Misters

[wise brook]

same

[craggy horizon]

Neither of those binaries will boot on either of my identical MiSTers.

Can someone run md5sum against the 20240331 main unstable so I can sanity-check that the file transferred over correctly?

Here's what mine shows.

[burnt matrix]

Can you go back to the latest stable MiSTer?

[craggy horizon]

Yes, and I can also boot the 20240324 unstable (and all earlier unstables going back to Jan 1) just fine.

It's only the last two unstable MiSTer builds that refuse to boot.

I just downloaded a fresh copy using a different PC and ran md5 against it, and it yields the same hash, so it looks like the binary should be fine.

#dev-talk message

[zealous karma]

Just updated Mister Main unstable and Virtua Fighter 2 which consistently had audio/black screen issues is now running perfect on my 2.5 RAM

Also Sega Rally with music and all. Its great

[craggy horizon]

Got it working. Apparently /media/fat/MiSTer can no longer be a symlink to the actual binary residing elsewhere, or it refuses to boot. Always worked up through the 20240324 unstable.

[mortal mist]

Nice to hear!

[zealous karma]

Yeah something good came out of me breaking my MMS 😂

[craggy horizon]

The music in Astal doesn't break up as badly as it did before, but it still sounds a bit choppy, like it's being played through fan blades. Definitely better, but not entirely fixed.

Oops! Not using the latest unstable Saturn core. Retrying...

It's the same with the latest Saturn unstable.

[wise brook]

I just played thru to sea of clouds and it hardware accurate

[quick sorrel]

Yellow upper right is the Mhz and below it is green in time, yeah? About how much time should we allow for it to run to get a valid stable Mhz evaluation? (Mine started at 160 but quickly shot down to 150.)

[vocal timber]

Can someone test Taito’s Chase HQ and confirm if the mission sample loops during gameplay? It shouldn’t play during the driving part.

[acoustic ice]

Happy chocolate egg day everybody

Now lets get down to business. I’ve just soldered up in typical horrendous fashion a saturn female controller cable i had amd connected it to a leonardo with sonik’s zord saturn sketch. And the 3d controller does the same in Christmas nights as the mayflash. It doesn’t do up or down. The mister controller config does recognise left stick down in the setup but actually have no idea down is down. Who has got Christmas nights working with the 3d pad? I know one person has something working but i can’t read or write hiragana to at them haha

[naive whale]

Happy Easter to whoever gets into it. Happy liquor and ham party day to whoever is like us and just had a big dinner with friends

[sudden tusk]

Happy Easter!

[sudden tusk]

We ain’t friends no moh!

[sudden tusk]

Et tu Andy ?

[safe trail]

Weeble Sonic with sharp edges for taking out babies' eyeballs

[burnt matrix]

lol weeble sonic

[tawny pendant]

Using the latest unstable main and core, performance is significantly worse on the MMS. Sega Rally freezes on the game select now... freezes with other "problem" games. Everything is working great on my 2.9 RAM system though.

[kind quarry]

this is disappointing to read over and over as i have an MMS and i’ve been waiting for a bit before i jump into games. i really like their set up.

[prisma wraith]

my ram is from the first batch of 128mb sticks that went out from MiSTerAddons. I remember placing the order immediately when they released on the site. Unfortunately this might be the reason I have so many issues with Saturn..

[pearl harbor]

That's not my house! You can clearly see that there are some things in that picture that aren't made out of cheese. Only the cheesiest for me.

[dawn ice]

got my later on its runs at 140 stable.

[wise brook]

are their counterfeit chips on the market?

specifically these ram chips

[stiff patrol]

yes on Aliexpress mostly

[naive whale]

Must be @sudden tusk

[sudden tusk]

Yo mama!

So Astal sounds perfect now , and I’m noticing sound improvements all around the board

I found fighters megamix consistently crashes if you let the intro cutscene play

[mortal mist]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Saturn_MiSTer/issues/136

[sudden tusk]

Known

[drifting frigate]

That's how it was for me before, but I did four or five cycles last night and it was always on swap. I love the mysteries of this core.

[drifting frigate]

Et mi, buddy.

[sudden tusk]

Still no music in thunderforce V

[mortal mist]

Shitty sdram 🤪

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-in-the-hall-crushing-your-head-small-gif-14231473

I gots the good ram!

[loud hare]

I found the compatibility chart but is there a preferred or recommended BIOS? I'm trying to figure out which one I should legally dump from my large collection of Saturn consoles

[drifting frigate]

Booo. Tenor doesn't have the I'm Blocking You Out response from Kevin.

[sudden tusk]

Therefore I win !

Contest over

[mortal mist]

I use three bios for each region separately + auto region

[drifting frigate]

Are you typing? My thumb is in the way.

If we do this for a month, we don't pay rent!

[sudden tusk]

Sweet!

[drifting frigate]

I really love that show.

[prisma wraith]

the clicking before audio tracks start in Darius Gaiden is fixed in the latest core. that was the only issue I noticed with the game with playing through it last week

[drifting frigate]

I checked TFV and I'm getting full audio. I'm also learning I'm REALLY BAD at TFV. That ape midboss hands me my ass like he's the valet at a Bethlehem stable.

[mortal mist]

Yeah , TFV works great

[tidal marsh]

is the music missing/messed up in sonic 3d blast or did i mess something up? it used to work

[stiff patrol]

what ram ?

[strong zephyr]

When i exit out of the demo (where i have sound) the sound is gone when the menu appears, and i get the WSOD when i try to enter arcade mode.....yeah so my 2.5 mem is indeed double fudged then (oh god this is the setup for one of them AwBacon jokes.... 😳 )

[drifting frigate]

https://www.ky3.com/2024/03/30/popular-missouri-fudge-factory-names-winner-inaugural-competitive-eating-championship/

[strong zephyr]

( i just tried again cuz i read earlier someone had sega rally working with 2.5 ram....right?)

[drifting frigate]

Sounds like, yeah.

[stiff patrol]

2.5 is not the best to use with the core

[strong zephyr]

yeah trust me i am aware

[stiff patrol]

but dont go specially buying just yet

[strong zephyr]

and no i am not, a friend of mine did though and his issues indeed melted like snow in the sun.....i can be patient as i have a fenrired saturn to hold me over

[tidal marsh]

3.0. happens on dual and single ram

[stiff patrol]

wierd my 2.9 which clocks at 150 in memtest seems to be working fine

[tidal marsh]

also using latest core, latest mister main

[stiff patrol]

may just be a regression

the core is being actively developed

so shit happens

[tidal marsh]

yeah the sound fx got fixed but the music broke

[strong zephyr]

i ran (or tried to run 😄 ) porkchops update script for both latest unstable saturn, and mister main. but maybe it failed as my mister version is listed as 240313

[mortal mist]

Music works fine for me

2.9 + latest unstable mister main

[tidal marsh]

i'm using a hisaturn bios and it's set to USA i wonder if that matters

[acoustic ice]

I’ve finally 3d pad working for xmax NiGHTS but only in live core not nightly, broke broke in nightly. Otherwise released core is working beautifully for xmas NiGHTS other than the tricks with L and R don’t work though they do function to turn nights around. Any other NiGHTS players here?

[tidal marsh]

This is what I get on the title screen (weird clicking)

[strong zephyr]

ran the script again and i did get both a higher version of mister and saturn unstable core, but no difference....gonna back to lurking. Enjoy all!

[tidal marsh]

weird

[mortal mist]

No issues here

[tidal marsh]

could i be doing something different?

[mortal mist]

Tried hi saturn bios 1.1 and 1.2 ( original , no region free) works ok

[tidal marsh]

vsync is set to 0 also so it shouldn't be that

[mortal mist]

Are you using unstable mister main ?

[drifting frigate]

I'm also getting pristine music and sound in 3D Blast.

Flickies be damned.

[tidal marsh]

yes but i've been testing this for a while each time a new saturn core comes out lol

[mortal mist]

Ok , sorry , can't help

[drifting frigate]

How are you storing your games? Are you in a position where you can try CIFS?

Wired, of course. Wifi will have roughly the same speed as SD

[burnt matrix]

I'm going to try Virtua Fighter Kids again, wish me luck

[tidal marsh]

what is cifs. they are on sdcard

[drifting frigate]

It's the implementation of SMB on MiSTer. So wired network. The throughput of the ethernet is based on bus speed so it can get up to 60mbps of throughput. Whereas the USB bus (which the SD card lives on as well) is 2.0 and is stuck around 25mbps max.

[wise brook]

she can beat me any day

[drifting frigate]

Here's a good breakdown. https://misteraddons.com/blogs/news/mister-data-io-speed-shootout?_pos=2&_sid=0ca37761a&_ss=r

[tidal marsh]

thanks

[drifting frigate]

NP

[tidal marsh]

i appear to have fixed it by using a different download of the game

[drifting frigate]

And sorry, It was MBps, not Mbps. Bytes not bits.

Awesome!

Yay for unpredictable dumps!

[tidal marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/snicker-muttley-laughing-dog-cartoons-gif-5737113

yeah this is working great now

sounds fine

[drifting frigate]

Noice!

[burnt matrix]

VF Kids is dissapointing!

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-james-franco-looking-gif-15728181

[burnt matrix]

It’s not cartoony at all it’s like regular ass Virtua Fighter except everyone looks like a fat baby.

I was hoping for wacky hi-jinx.

They didn’t even make the old guy a kid. He’s just a short old man.

He should’ve been like a teenager while everyone else was a kid. Just whooping their asses.

Game won’t work for me if I have my region set to Auto and the bios being a US bios.

Need to manually set my region to USA for it to load.

[wise brook]

what you got against a free game that encouraged 日本の子供 to eat more fruit?

ohh

it was Java brand tea

[drifting frigate]

Robby - "I tried beating children but it didn't satisfy me."

[sudden tusk]

Sound got effed up for Baku Baku animal

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/id-buy-that-for-a-dollar-robocop-eyeglasses-gif-15365730

[burnt matrix]

LMAO

[ancient surge]

Yeah Virtua Fighter Kids is basically a worse version of Virtua Fighter 2.

Should of went in a direction similar to Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix and just go full on wacky.

[burnt matrix]

See, I'm not crazy!

[pearl harbor]

But that's right up your alley!

[drifting frigate]

Oh, Robby, sweety...

[ancient surge]

🤜 💥

[sudden tusk]

Fuck shinning force just locked up on me !

[pearl harbor]

Yeah, it unfortunately has crashing problems again. It was good for awhile there, but one of the recent core updates re-introduced the random crashes.

[next bronze]

Is that the version where Homer Simpson chases after you with an axe becuase he was deprived of TV and beer?

[drifting frigate]

All work and no beer make Homer something something?

[lone mural]

Which version of Nights is working on the core ? I can't make it work.

[drifting frigate]

I'm using the Champion Collection version.

[lone mural]

I will try later

thanks

[sacred goblet]

I m using us version (redump). Works very good for me.

[mortal mist]

Same here , works great

[old pasture]

I'll be streaming Saturn later #share-media message

It's always nice seeing you guys there.

[gusty quest]

From what ive seen Heber have not been that helpful either, just saying its based on the 2.9 rev design. I wonder if UltimateMiSTer has anymore info or testing seeing as they produce the boards now ?

[kind quarry]

i’ve not stared at it, but could you just resolder the L bracket joint to a 2.9 board?

[native dagger]

Sega Saturn the best console of the generation

||APRIL FOOLS||

[gusty quest]

No that was the Atari Jaguar ! with 3DO running a close second.....

[gusty quest]

Yeah i am suprised nobody has come up with a solution so far

[wise brook]

i love Battle Arena Toshinden, textured polygons with puddle deep gameplay > flat shaded quads with chess tier gameplay any day

also 299!!!! xdxdxd

(memory card and game not included)

[neon fern]

I remember the Saturn costing like $400 in 95

think it came with Virtua Fighter at least

[sacred goblet]

For saturn fan my New saturn pal model 1 in box ☺️😉😍

[neon fern]

very nice

I only recently got a Saturn, playing the core made me fall in love with the library so I picked up a Model 1 Japan console

I couldn't afford it back in the 90s, I bought a Playstation with my first paycheck

er, first couple of paychecks lol

[wise brook]

yep game and the ability to save said game in the box

[bleak escarp]

I've been own a Saturn but the core pushed me to finally buckling on buying a multitap+twin stick.

They're closer than they've ever been, scanned into the States today

[hearty carbon]

kind of. It was a bad version of it and they ended up mailing out a fixed version

Still, I loved VF and it was expensive in arcades

[hearty carbon]

how much did a NiB run you, if you don't mind sharing?

[drifting frigate]

It's in Chicago? Careful. @naive whale might scoop it up due to his deep ties to big Post.

[bleak escarp]

Ain't he on vacation yet? Should stay away

[drifting frigate]

Hehe.

[sacred goblet]

I bought it 20 years ago. 80 euros

[naive whale]

If you are lucky it’ll only sit there for two days

Average is five

[astral moat]

For those who have a BliSTer, Saturn core got LLAPI implemented. This enables 2 players mode with original Saturn digital controllers https://github.com/MiSTer-LLAPI/Saturn_MiSTer

[stone sky]

On red light districts, In the store at the beginning, if you enter and go to the bathroom or in the cabins, it crashes in Duke Nukem 3D using the latest version of the core and in the unstable mister

The music continues to play

[burnt matrix]

Is it consistent? If so good find. Can you post that to the GitHub as an issue?

[stone sky]

It's happened to me in the same place twice, I can open it, just not at the moment. I'll try again if it happens again and I'll report the error on Github as soon as I can.

[burnt matrix]

No rush, it’s sincerely appreciated if you get the chance. Thank you very much, friend.

[stone sky]

It happened for the third time, It's consistent, I just loaded it, Kill the monsters first entering the cabins on the left side and then the bathroom and when leaving it crashes, only music continues

[cursive turtle]

What do people use to convert saturn saves to something mister friendly? I dumped my Grandia save a few days ago using a MODE on a real Saturn and wanted to test it on the core. Tried the one from segaextreme but the core wont read the file it spits out

[drifting frigate]

Can you share your save file? I'll see if I can parse it

[cursive turtle]

here is what the Savegame Copier gave me. wonder if I need to dump it again

[drifting frigate]

I'll see what I can do with it as soon as I'm done capturing some Monkey Island.

[analog totem]

it got me this morning, but then I remembered it happens every year

[craggy horizon]

What got you?

[serene thunder]

🤦‍♂️

[analog totem]

see the comment I was responding to

[craggy horizon]

That comment also just says "it" without saying what "it" was.

What did I miss?

[analog totem]

just take a look at the discord’s icon and then think about it i’d say

[craggy horizon]

?

There's nothing different about the icon.

[analog totem]

lol sorry i thought it might click

maybe you’re in a different time zone

[lusty rapids]

maybe syrinx is pulling the ol double troll

[craggy horizon]

PDT

[lusty rapids]

robby special

[craggy horizon]

8:58pm here

[analog totem]

lol

[craggy horizon]

Still April 1

Nothing different about the icon here.

[analog totem]

are you sureee it’s the same old icon

[craggy horizon]

Looks the same to me

[analog totem]

not the discord icon

the mister discord icon

[craggy horizon]

Also the same.

[lusty rapids]

lol those sneaky mods

[analog totem]

and you’re sure you noticed it being the same earlier in the day?

[craggy horizon]

Yes, why?

[analog totem]

ok well for most of us, there has been a red “1” there all day…as there always is on April 1 here every year

[lusty rapids]

the 1 stands for april firth

[craggy horizon]

Ah. I mean, those normally appear, and I normally totally ignore them, so no wonder.

[left hollow]

Those damn mister ninja mods changing things when enough of the earth has span

[craggy horizon]

Do people actually use or pay any attention to those notifications? I mean, who has the time to?

[lusty rapids]

the red dots on the servers mean someone has pung specifically you (or an at-everyone)

[analog totem]

i mean, if i’m visiting the discord and see it, i’m gonna see why someone pinged me. Or like if I asked a question and see i’m pinged, i’ll go check and see if someone responded 🤷‍♂️

[lusty rapids]

so yeah, it's polite to at least look at who pung you

and then ignore them

red dot on the server icon is different than the red dot on the application icon

[craggy horizon]

In my experience they just mean someone posted some message I don't care about.

[lusty rapids]

well that reply right there lit up a red dot on the server icon

[craggy horizon]

🤷🏻‍♂️

They light up all the time for other reasons. Thus, I ignore them.

[drifting frigate]

Normally I use https://segaxtreme.net/resources/saturn-save-converter.74/

The raw internal it outputs is what I drop in. However, this isn't working. I'm going to try to grab a save from my real saturn, too, and see if my old method works still for that.

[pearl harbor]

Spoilers!

[drifting frigate]

Hah! I'll send it on, but this is for myself not VGE.

[drifting frigate]

Oof, I was hoping MODE would do an incremental backup drop, but it's the whole shebang every time. </williamhung>

OK, @cursive turtle - I tried it again with my own Saturn Mode backup and it worked. So I think I may know what's up. I'm using the English patch...are you using OG Japanese?

The steps I used are:
Export Backup RAM to SD
Drop SATBACKUP.BUP onto the SaturnSaveConverter.exe from the link above
Navigate to Saves\SATBACKUP\Saturn\Internal and copy the .raw file to /media/fat/saves/Saturn on MiSTer
Rename the .raw file to <whatever your ISO name is>.sav

So long as the game image on MiSTer matches the one on Mode, it has worked for me. But I can't get your file to load with the ENG translation of Grandia. I will see if I have an older JP-only copy to try.

[brisk tiger]

Hey gang, just trying out the Saturn core for the first time. I fired up Nights into Dreams and am having a lot of issues with it: audio channels getting stuck, video just halting mid-playback and so on. I have an older MiSTer unit with the 2.5 SDRAM module and I did see a mention that there are more compatibility problems if you aren't using the 2.9/3.0 modules. Are the things I'm running into probably related to that? Just figured it was worth asking before ordering a new RAM module.

[mortal mist]

If you want to buy a new sdram just for Saturn then I recommend waiting. Core is not finished.

[brisk tiger]

Got it. So it's still generally in an unstable state?

[pearl harbor]

Yes, it's especially unstable for older ram modules. The odds are very likely that is the cause of your problems. That said, as already stated, it's also a good idea to wait and see if those issues get resolved with further core updates. But if you just want to get in on it now, then by all means upgrade and see if that solves the problem.

[brisk tiger]

Good to know, thanks. I'd been thinking about ordering the Ironclad ITX board just to clean up the system and put it in a nicer-looking case, so whenever that comes back into stock I guess I'll just order a new RAM module alongside it.

[wise brook]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

the ram they sell with the ITX kit is the infamous 4chip ram

aka A-RAM

aka doesn’t work with saturn because it’s too out-of-spec

[brisk tiger]

Oh, thanks for the warning. Do you have a recommended supplier to go with instead?

[shadow merlin]

They sell the 4chip ram but it is compatible with 2 chip. I have an ironclad with 2chip ram I bought from another seller and it works fine.

[brisk tiger]

Okay. So just any vendor that sells two-chip SDRAM boards is equivalent?

Or are there some that use higher-quality chips than others?

[shadow merlin]

I don't know for sure but I have bought 2 chip from misterfpga.co.uk and misteraddons and both work well, others may be able to chime in with their experiences. Definitely avoid 4 chip ram though!

[brisk tiger]

Understood. Very much appreciate the heads-up; I don't really keep up with the developments on the MiSTer project so I miss things like this.

[shadow merlin]

No worries, one last thing to consider: You'll want the RAM version to be 2.9/3.0 as older RAM versions can also exhibit issues. Probably difficult to find older ram at this point but still worth considering

[brisk tiger]

Yeah, I have a 2.5 board at the moment which is how this all got started

Tried to use the Saturn core for the first time and had loads of issues

[shadow merlin]

I had a 4 chip and upgraded to a newer 2 chip model and the difference is night and day

[brisk tiger]

Are there still benefits to having dual SDRAM? I keep getting conflicting information on that; some people insist there's absolutely no purpose to having dual cards whatsoever and others insist that it helps a number of games run better.

[mortal mist]

Currently, there is no difference single/sdram

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BpCRjALSAAe4lQGfaJgoiDZu6aLFrVOLdSEJqN4EgIg/

[frank crater]

Lol that red 1 on the server icon was getting me all day yesterday. Genius

[burnt matrix]

There is no purpose to having dual SDRAM. Whoever is telling you otherwise is incorrect,

[lusty rapids]

the purpose is to have a token of your superiority by showing how much money you can waste

like a watch

[celest ingot]

Dual Ram has no (significant) impact on any core available on MiSTer at this time

[burnt matrix]

Ok this is true.

I have dual SDRAM and I like to lord it over single rammers

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/randy-savage-crown-nods-wwe-yeah-gif-16707535

[naive whale]

Stop being dirty

[rich violet]

Finally came first in Sega Rally 😄

Unlocked the 4th track

[acoustic sable]

Sounds like a euphemism

[burnt matrix]

Nice, welcome to the dunking on Aktane club

[rich violet]

Got to practice Lakeside track now, to unlock the Stratos

[cursive turtle]

hmm weird, it is a save from the fan translation. I should try dumping it again this weekend and follow the steps more closely this time

[gusty quest]

Roberto sells the 4chip ram for Ironclad due to being based in Spain and has links with Antonio Villena hence the SNAC8 support too

[soft valley]

Ironclad, haven’t heard that name in awhile

I know a ton of people here have it but I’m guessing it doesn’t get pushed as much with retro castle and porkchop new io boards coming, just like MMS

I understand the reasons for not implementing PWM in main but I feel for people that don’t have affordable upgrade options in their setup

[mortal mist]

ok , same for me

[tidal marsh]

i have now almost beaten 3d blast on the core. a few glitches but i think they may be present in the original game. unfortunately the game still sucks

[mortal mist]

It crashes randomly

Now here

[pearl harbor]

I can do it in the Saturn version, but I swear the arcade version is impossible to beat the checkpoint timer!

I've been trying to beat the arcade version for days, and I can always get to right in front of the finish line of the third leg of the race.

[mortal mist]

to be sure, I will check the game image from another source 🙂

[serene thunder]

Are there games which simply won't boot and you get dumped back to the Saturn UI?

[mortal mist]

sometimes you have to do a reset , but I haven't seen a game that doesn't start at all

[serene thunder]

OK, I thought maybe that was the situation

[rich violet]

I practiced the tracks on time trial a lot. I got good high scores on the first and second and 4th or something on the third track before I started trying to win in arcade mode. And in arcade mode I was 9th after the first track, 3rd after the second and 1st after the third track, and I tried the fourth track for the first time and got overtaken. But the fourth track is unlocked now so I can practice it in time trial 😄

[ancient surge]

Yeah if a game sometimes fails to boot, it's just the core acting wonky. Restarting should fix the issue.

[drifting frigate]

Lemme know how it turns out!

[leaden dagger]

There is a US version of Deep Fear that was never released but completed that can be... uh well, discovered that I want to test as soon as I build my mister

[drifting frigate]

It's gooooood

And I don't like tank controls. But it's very entertaining.

[open swan]

It's like having a PC with 64 GB of DDR5. Robby's bragging about that one game where it makes a difference.

[drifting frigate]

I'm just gonna sneak out the back.

(Mommas, don't let your babies grow up to be editors)

[open swan]

our ERP server at work has 3x that i think, can't remember

a little overkill

[drifting frigate]

It's nice for 8k editing, but 1) my processor still hates me and 2) NOBODY wants 8K and nobody wants to DO 8k.

[open swan]

yet

[drifting frigate]

We'll see... I'm actually getting more 1080p deliveries than I was 4 years ago. Everyone wanted 4K 4 years ago. Now, only a handful of people do.

If I had to guess, it's because VFX in 4K basically quadruple your render time and nobody wants to wait 3 days for the final cut to output... but I haven't done for-disc mastering in a while. Web analytics for our (narrative) channel show that >60% watch on phones at default res. Even today. So there might be a 'why even bother' mentality.

[leaden dagger]

Note if you have a 3d controller enabled in options the analog stick is directional rather than tank

[drifting frigate]

Is 3D pad working? I thought Blue or someone akin to Blue had mentioned the latest build killed everything in the options menu.

I haven't actualy tried it.

[leaden dagger]

No
But is there 3d pad emulation with USB controller?

[drifting frigate]

No, I know. But I thought it wasn't working currently.

[leaden dagger]

huh

[drifting frigate]

Searching threads sucks or I'd find the post.

I'll just test it really quick.

Yeah, 3D stick is dead for me with 3D Pad selected in Input

Damn

[leaden dagger]

well fuck

welp guess we're waiting for the next big update to restore it I suppose

[drifting frigate]

I'll try SNAC in SRG's core. I know for sure it works in Blue1's core from a bit ago. I am pretty sure it's going to be the same though, based on his github comments.

Hah! I've never let Deep Fear sit idle. The character just sneezes constantly.

Works perfectly with Blue1's SNAC core and with the previous build + analog stick, but yeah, latest is digital only no matter how you're connected it seems.

[pearl harbor]

Yeah, Blue1's most recently SNAC build works fine with the 3D controller, but SRG's first SNAC build definitely does not work with it.

[drifting crown]

Someone should send SRG a snac adapter so he can debug it.

[gusty quest]

Roberto is stll producing them in batches and has made a Lite version now at a cheaper price point

The MMS is being produced by UltimateMiSTer now

[mortal mist]

Yeah great update is coming

[analog totem]

niiiice!

[mortal mist]

yeah!! polygon tearing fixed

croc and all games looks nice now 🙂

❤️

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Saturn_MiSTer/issues/158

fixed 🙂

Andretti Racing fixed (speedometr )

great update

so far I haven't found any regressions

[ancient surge]

Oh thank God that blank line is being fixed. That was really pissing me off for a while.

[bleak escarp]

Soon™

I should get a Saturn SNAX cable sooner than later huh

[ripe valley]

No regression found also on my side, solid release.

[primal osprey]

Now I shall play this core

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/segata-sanshiro-nod-yes-gif-5612081

[ancient surge]

Oh yeah, now 4:3 looks a lot better.

[wooden dew]

I haven't been following updates very much, is the compatibility tracker a good resource to see what's working or not?

[mortal mist]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BpCRjALSAAe4lQGfaJgoiDZu6aLFrVOLdSEJqN4EgIg/

[analog totem]

it’s a good resource yes

speaking of testing…I need to get back to JP game testing, but I’ve been obsessed with ao486 as of late

[hearty marten]

Does anyone know if Time Gal is still unhappy on the core?

[serene thunder]

What have you been doing with ao486

[analog totem]

@serene thunder just playing around and trying to help with the 0MHz collection stuff. fixed a couple games that had issues, added some new titles and trying to play some games

[serene thunder]

Nice, so is the idea to release more games and we simply copy them into place on the SD card?

[analog totem]

yep!

[serene thunder]

I got the main pack from a certain archive site

[analog totem]

it’s getting updated frequently

I still have a few titles I submitted I’m waiting for them to add like Tyrian and Skyroads

[serene thunder]

The menu shortcuts to each game really make it quick to play stuff

[analog totem]

yep, it’s excellent. Especially with how the MGLs let you have specific configs per game

[serene thunder]

Are there visualizer programs for DOS we can run
I'm trying to remember the trippy screensaver I used to watch

I love the Amiga core with the premade image and all those demos

[analog totem]

not sure but probably

[green swift]

That 0MHz collection is a seriously nice quality of life option for playing DOS games.

[serene thunder]

Wait - Does ao486 support data only from CDs, or will it also play redbook audio

I remember this was an issue at some point

[analog totem]

hmmm I think it supports redbook? I can’t quite remember

yes it has it

added back in august of last year

[serene thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shocked-by-hair-gif-26090313

@twin canyon

This could be the best one
Better than slap sword

[ripe valley]

Some problems remain. The game doesn't like to be launched after a previous one and the game freezes after 3 or 4 successful game sequences.
Same for Ninja Hayate.

[sudden tusk]

Sega cd version works just fine lol

[hardy lodge]

So how far along is the Saturn core by now?

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/were-really-close-now-john-finch-smite-almost-there-nearly-there-gif-18574150

[wise brook]

0.9.1

‰

[green swift]

The benchmark is when the experience might not be accurate but convenience of MiSTer outweighs the accuracy of real hardware. For those of you with 2.9/3.0 RAM, are we at that point? Has the Saturn core replaced real hardware for you yet?

[mortal mist]

for me , yes 🙂

Mister is my new saturn

[green swift]

Sweet 🙂

I’m still on 2.5 RAM

[mortal mist]

all the games I cared about work well

[green swift]

Some 3.0 is in the mail

90% of Saturn is Outrun and Space Harrier for me

[soft valley]

The recent fix for audio did it for me, yes. The Saturn was one of the consoles I was most upset about losing in the fire, even over my minty shelled N64 with an everdrive that I had a modded with a TW board, and now I feel like I’m pretty much good and don’t need to pursue getting another

I probably won’t get another N64 either tbh, and will just sell my conker cart that survived and be done with it. I know people say this and that about FPGA just being a more expensive alternative to PC-driven emulation blah blah blah, but honestly it makes me feel secure having a mister again, like I don’t need to pursue re-obtaining any original hardware

[pearl harbor]

For many games, yes. But not for all. For me personally, big games like Shining Force III still don't play properly (random crashes).

[mortal mist]

have you checked the ogre perhaps ? https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Saturn_MiSTer/issues/150

[pearl harbor]

Oh yeah, I need to test that one on today's build. As of the previous build, it still wasn't fixed yet.

Dang, still not fixed.

[mortal mist]

thanks for checking !

[pearl harbor]

X-Men vs Street Fighter still crashes as well.

Posted this image on the Github of the issue in Ogre Battle:

You can see that unit is completely off the map. But her actual location is on the castle on the lower part of the image.

[sterile roost]

Yeeted off the map

[astral crane]

It's a DS game?

[hearty marten]

Thanks for letting me know 🙂

[tribal valley]

Is it normal to get a "CD BIOS not found message" whenever you load a game?

[mortal mist]

No , rename boot.bin to boot.rom

[tribal valley]

Ah okay!

[sudden tusk]

@pearl harbor is shinning force 3 still crashing ?

[burnt matrix]

How is today’s Saturn build?

[pearl harbor]

I didn't test it yet with today's build.

[sudden tusk]

I’m about to

Shinning force III still crashing

[sudden tusk]

😦

[pearl harbor]

[open swan]

single or dual sdram?

[sudden tusk]

Single

2.9

Damn shame

[open swan]

it'll get fixed eventually

SFIII is kind of a notorious game for emulators, takes awhile to get it right

i remember almost a decade long period when you would have crashes in it randomly on emulators from the time saturn emulators first started showing up

[sterile roost]

Oh really, even with SSF back in the day?

[open swan]

off the top of my head, wasn't SSF kinda a decade after the first working saturn emulators? i might be misremembering... what was the first one...

[pearl harbor]

The crashing is actually a regression that was introduced pretty recently. It wasn't crashing for a while there, but a few builds ago reintroduced the random crashes again. So I'm sure it'll get resolved.

[sterile roost]

GiriGiri would’ve been one of the first

Satourne too

[open swan]

yeah i am looking at zophar.net right now lol

trying to see which one it was that i used to mess with

i remember when they ran like no games

[sterile roost]

Cassini too

Man I’m old lol

[open swan]

yeah ssf was like early 2010's

[open swan]

same lol, i remember using no$gmb in dos when it was fresh and using the DOS version of MasterGear lol

[sterile roost]

SSF = first version in 2003

[sterile roost]

I remember when no SNES emulator could show the fog in Chrono Trigger 2600AD lol

[open swan]

yup, and they all messed up the layers in ffv

[open swan]

wow that was earlier than i remember

[sterile roost]

I didn’t start using it til 2006 i think

It would’ve been ultra obscure the first few years

[open swan]

i stopped using saturn emulators for years and years because they werne't accurate enough and i was patient hehe

[sterile roost]

Since it was a random Japanese website

[open swan]

came back and mednafen was king

[sterile roost]

Also required a decent PC for the longest time

[burnt matrix]

wow all the poly seams are fixed in Croc

[pearl harbor]

What a Croc.

[burnt matrix]

Anyone playing the Dark Hunter games?

A+ hidden gem, shouldn’t be missed

In the top 5 games for the Saturn for sure

[sturdy loom]

I'm checking out a longplay of it and it looks incredible, instant download for me

(I say that only half in jest, love weird games like this)

[burnt matrix]

Probably the best Saturn game of all time

[lavish wadi]

What order are these played in? I searched the web, but get conflicting info

[burnt matrix]

I have no idea, I’m utterly lost either way LOL

[hardy lodge]

So it's part of the english dreams series with the goal to teach english? Apparently there is a prequel called emit.

Is there a translation for it to teach me japanese? 🙃

[burnt matrix]

yeah the voice acting is 80s anime quality lolol

I have no idea when it becomes a game though

[pearl harbor]

Sigh...I tested the japanese version of Ogre Battle on the core, and that issue I mentioned earlier isn't present in that version. So I'm positive that the problem is actually with the fan translation, and not the core itself. I closed the issue on github! Gotta always make sure to test the original version of fan translated games! Lesson learned. You may punish me now.

[rich violet]

If it's supposed to work on real hardware, then the issue should probably be kept open, just say that it's the translation

[pearl harbor]

I have no means of testing it on real hardware though. I also suspect that the fan translators knew about the issue, because they changed the default view in that version to the 2D map, and the issue only occurs on the 3D map. When I just tested the original japanese version, the default view was the 3D map (like the SNES version).

[wise brook]

have you asked the hack makers?

[pearl harbor]

I have no idea who they are or how to contact them.

[drifting frigate]

paul_met

You can send messages on RomHacking dot net, or post it as a review comment

It's how I got the pal jump fix to the Shredder's Revenge team.

(Obviously, you'd have no control over them checking their inbox so it may still not get seen, but maybe worth a shot?)

[tough star]

World Series Baseball 98 < went up-to team select before now crashes on black screen

[mortal mist]

I'll check on my side to see how it looks

[mortal mist]

yeah , i see "loading" and then black screen

maybe it's worth reporting it on github 🙂

[drifting frigate]

Even with the fixes, Monster Slider's intro animations are utterly out of sync in hilarious ways.

*level intro animations

Oh, starting a game just plays all the sound files for characters in a row.

Aaand it crashes to launcher after you complete a level. Guess that one was a WIP update.

[tall agate]

if anyone wants to build a saturn SNAC adapter, you should be able to get them from jlcpcb for under $5 shipped with this link https://cart.jlcpcb.com/quote?fileId=b832dc9125194d43844c5b8e2b3a6c11&uuid=775069f539b94f0697f47dad27338d60&achieveDate=72&eadLink=2&electropolishingOnlyNo=no

or if that link expires, via https://oshwlab.com/patrick_3134/snac-saturn (click "open in editor" --> open the PCB, click file -> export -> gerber -> order PCB)

[zinc vine]

no github

[pearl harbor]

Tried posting it as a review comment, and it was rejected. womp womp

[drifting frigate]

Ugh.

I hate the mods on that site. I tried to upload a hack and credited all of the original people in THEIR hosted credit list and it got rejected for not crediting.

So I just stopped and let Batty post it on Zeldix rather than mess with it at all.

[sudden tusk]

OMG this joker says you can’t “emulate” burning rangers https://youtu.be/bh5ayAiokus?si=2wKT3Ojh-PODa-Qb

Guess he never heard of SRG or the MISTer project

OMG he says the gba version of guardians heroes is a port of the Saturn game …

[pearl harbor]

What really made it annoying is that I gave it a genuine review and commented that the translation is really well done and that the hack works perfectly in every other regard. The question about the bug was just one part of it. But they told me that all bug reports should not be included in reviews. Which...makes no sense? If there's something wrong with a rom hack, you're not supposed to mention it in a review? How does that work?

[pearl harbor]

I miss Batty!

[naive whale]

Ogre Battle is what I call it when I meet up with your mom

[serene thunder]

Latest core seems pretty solid, no?

[mortal mist]

yes 🙂

[serene thunder]

Snow day here, but I'm gonna go see if the local theater is open and watch Monkey Man

I doubt B.Snake has that dedication to monkeys

[native dagger]

Interesting, your mom and I call it Primal Rage

[serene thunder]

More like Survival Arts

[naive whale]

I’ll give you a solid point for that. Two points if you could get her out of the hospice bed! 🤣

[serene thunder]

Anyway, B.Snake own3d

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shocked-by-hair-gif-26090313

[naive whale]

SaturnDay vid in 60 seconds

couldnt let N64 steal all the thunder

[drifting crown]

There’s no logic in the snac wiring is there? Theoretically I could use a Saturn extension cable and wire it directly to a usb3 plug?

[acoustic sable]

No logic, just voltage buffers/adapters to protect the GPIOs more than anything else. I don't know the electrical details for Saturn kit though

[pearl harbor]

She told me that you must be really good at threading needles!

[naive whale]

more like poking them into my eyes the first time I saw her face

not enough New Glarus in the state of Wisconsin to make that workable

[pearl harbor]

That's just you missing the target!

[naive whale]

nobody could miss that target...woman is wider than the livestock barn and smells about the same

[hearty marten]

Get him to the burn unit!

…or her

[pearl harbor]

She wasn't in the room though! The target was just south of where it landed!

Explains your frequent chiropractor appointments!

[thick oriole]

Is it just toggling between map views where it shows up? I just started it up on real hardware and didn't see that issue. (Using Fenrir, loading through Fenrir Loader Kai.)

Wait a minute, my bad. I see it. Not as bad as that screenshot (the 3D map stayed stable), but the unit's position was definitely jumping around. Sounds like a patch issue indeed.

Contact information is in the readme with the patch. You'd probably want to ask paul_met, his email is listed as [email protected].

[pearl harbor]

The 3D map is stable on my end as well. It's only the units that jump up and down the map. But yeah, that confirms that it's a patch issue.

[sudden tusk]

Time to patch the patch

[tall agate]

ya, you just need a snac adapter https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DnsYQEV

[ripe valley]

I've seen a response from srg320 on one of my suggestions concerning a bug on 'TokiMemo'.
'To accurately emulate the VRAM read slowdown when drawing I need to research this feature on real hardware. When I have a logic analyzer, I will be able to fix it. It will take time.'

Tokimeki Memorial, Whizz, Grandia (beginning), NBA JAM Tournament Edition (team selection screen) have the same problem.

[trim nimbus]

oh no, that means he must not have been able to bring much of his equipment with him….that is also pretty crazy how much he is getting done without his frankensaturn

[sacred goblet]

I dont have problem with NBA Jam team sélection screen

[ripe valley]

The value is approximated, NBA Jam works but not the others.

[safe trail]

It's true. Apparently when he left his home, he didn't even take a DE10-Nano

And I heard he was using a DE10-Nano with some special/custom software and probes as a logic analyzer (very few commercial products can deal with high frequencies or more than 16 lines, or complex triggers)

[ripe valley]

He showed the system last year on Patreon.

[random shard]

somebody get that man a logic analyzer

😜

I wanted to update but it looks like Srg320 is releasing practically every day. Robert's soul possessed him. I will wait until its been a while between updates to test single and dual builds

[dense hill]

has anyone managed to get deep into shining force 3 yet?

I see someone says crashing is resolved

not sure if ture

true

[drifting frigate]

It worked pretty well a few updates ago but it's been crashing again for many. Not sure of the exact build date, but it seems to be up and down with latest releases.

[dense hill]

alright I will wait a bit longer then before I go for rpgs on saturn

[pearl harbor]

It was the build that added gouraud shading that broke it.

I should probably reopen that one.

[safe trail]

I remember seeing a mess of wires (which is basically how logic analyzer setups look. And my desk.)

[sterile parcel]

Albert Odyssey has been solid through most of the releases. I'm pretty far in and haven't ran into any issues yet.

[wet hull]

There are some VDP 2 issues in Cotton 2

Noticeable in cotton 2 stage 2 background

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Saturn_MiSTer/issues/94

This issue is back unfortunately

[ripe valley]

Let me check and report later.

@wet hull I can't seem to reproduce the issue at the moment on one of my system (dual RAM) with the 2024-04-03 core version.
EDIT : I can see the bug with the instructions from kuba, thanks.

[wet hull]

I’m using single ram

[mortal mist]

i see it too

@ripe valley appears on the right side of the screen

unless that's how it's supposed to look, I don't know this game very well 🙂

without filters

same for single and dualsdram

[ripe valley]

Okay, I need a retest without filters.

For Castlevania/Akumajou X, I can reproduce the issue the first time I launch the game from the core.
If I reset the game or if I launch another game before, the bug doesn't occur.

With the same config as yours on the issue tracker.

[mortal mist]

For me, even after the first launch this does not occur

[ripe valley]

Okay, I've updated the issue with my conclusions, I trust you also.
For Cotton 2, I'm reopening the issue right now.

[mortal mist]

I spent over an hour to reproduce this error , I was not successful. After turn on Mister , I start the core and the game and I don't get this error

Probably a sensitive case 🙂

[ripe valley]

I've clearly seen the bug on Cotton 2 without the filters.

[ripe valley]

Today it's Saturnday!
04/06 == Shi-ro in Japan
Sega Saturn Shiro!

[quartz berry]

I'm not having much luck with the Saturn core (pulling down with update_all) and wondered if it's just me? Most games will boot up, but will freeze early on during the logos (tried Tomb Raider, Sega Rally and Panzer Dragoon Saga). I think I have everything set up correctly, using the the HiSaturn 1.02 bios.
I do have the older 2.5 128mb ram which I've read causes problems, but they appear to be sound issues, whereas my case is games freezing up.
All other cores seem to work just fine (including the new N64 core). I've run the memory test and it seems to do fine (50mins at 144). Any ideas what I need to try next?

[shadow merlin]

Older ram can cause a lot of different issues, not just to do with sound IIRC. When I had 4 chip ram most games wouldn't work at all

[thorn pagoda]

maybe check your cd images hashes? 144 is a very respectable speed for any ram, especially 2.5

[quartz berry]

Thanks both. All the files look correct from what I can tell. The fact that the games freeze somewhat differently (Tomb Raider might freeze at the very start of the Core logo, sometimes nearer the end. Panzer Dragoon Saga freezes at the same spot at the start of the intro sequence, whereas disc 2 boots up fine). I've tried a few different files and even switched between Pal and NTSC versions (Pal Tomb Raider sometimes boots up). So although the ram checks out fine, I did wonder if the old 2.5 version could cause problems like this, rather than a silly setup mistake I've made.

[naive whale]

N64 chat is so dead now. This will have to be my new home 🤣

[burnt matrix]

new Saturn build

[sudden tusk]

I have a feeling this is gonna be a great update !!

[burnt matrix]

I have a feeling it will contain some fixes for some games

[naive whale]

ooh X Men vs SF

someone test and lmk if it works and Ill capture it if it does for next preview. 🙂

I am dead in the middle of capturing for some other stuff

[pearl harbor]

Gotta test this one! It's been one of our go–to games to test each build!

[burnt matrix]

I just like Bug and Bug like accessories

[naive whale]

exactly...is today the day?

I can cut it into the next saturn testing vid if it works

[burnt matrix]

Do a Saturn video but mention that Star Fox 64 is better than Panzer Dragoon

[pearl harbor]

To be fair, it is indeed better.

[naive whale]

The most hated man in Texas candidate right here

[pearl harbor]

It works! Just finished a full match without any issues!

[sudden tusk]

Hope this fixes shining force 3

[pearl harbor]

If we're talking about Zwei, then the comparison gets more difficult. I'd say those two are roughly tied. But compared to the original Panzer Dragoon? It's no contest. Star Fox 64 stomps it.

Four matches in, and still no issues with X-Men vs Street Fighter.

[burnt matrix]

Yeah the arcade core is pretty solid

[thorn pagoda]

yay new saturn build

[mortal mist]

well , i don;t like Star Fox 64 🙂

maybe thats why i like more Panzer Dragoon

But there are 8 billion people and everyone likes something different

duke nukem 3d fixed 🙂

[mortal mist]

fixed @stone sky

[burnt matrix]

What was fixed about it?

[mortal mist]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Saturn_MiSTer/issues/177

Worms fixed , controller works fine now

[burnt matrix]

Oh sorry, I should’ve thought to check the GitHub.

[sudden tusk]

Testing shining force IiI rn

And it just froze …

Looking good till I tried to cast a blaze spell

[mortal mist]

Rayman and Primal Rage works fine after today changes , all good

Rayman is sensitive to any kind of change

[sudden tusk]

And I’m getting no sound in Darius gaiden

[mortal mist]

works fine here

no issues

sound , music ok

[naive whale]

they were working before yeah?

I cant remember anymore lol

[mortal mist]

yes

But I was afraid , that the controller might have stopped working , or smth else 🙂

Dead or Alive no change , still some slowdowns

[serene thunder]

Welcome to an ADULT console

[sudden tusk]

Battle monsters working fine .. although I think some of the sound channels are clipping but the game does have crappy sound