Sega Saturn

[quaint dove]

Heh

[serene thunder]

The port of SF Zero 3 also has a lot of good stuff added

Purikura Daisakusen
Astal

Power Slave

Policenauts (english translation) (though this is more a visual novel)

Herc's Adventure

Shinobi X plays nice, but looks fugg

NIGHTS (Christmas NIGHTS)

Cotton Boomerang
Guardian Force
Keio Flying Squadron 2

[light magnet]

Check out the GameSack episode that just came out. There's a lot of gems in there I hadn't heard of prior, and haven't been mentioned here.

[strong zephyr]

If you use x/twitter search on st1ka, he had a thread of great saturn games per genre. Very extensive!

[balmy prawn]

that's kind of the opposite of what I want

If I just wanted some list made by some rando I could've just googled it. I am asking people here what they recommend which will be based entirely off their own personal experiences with said games.

[strong zephyr]

And thanks for checking sfa everyone. Guess it must be something on my end and well maybe just the core/memory lottery.

[strong zephyr]

I get what you are saying. And i myself often feel top 10 and 20 usually lack some very obvious choices. This one stood out because again it is the major games per genre. And yeah bias i do like his content in general. Anyways i think you already have ‘a few’ 😉 games to try. Enjoy!

[balmy prawn]

There are a few so far yes. Enough to keep me busy for a while even if only like 4 of them are games that keep my interest when I play them.

[strong zephyr]

I currently play mostly shmups myself. Battle Garegga is my fave on saturn i think and not mentioned! (Does have an arcade core as well)

Oh and same goes for outun, but the Saturn version has a 60fps mode, making it arguably better than arcade.

[untold zephyr]

Hyper Duel is the best version of this fantastic hori shmup. A must play if you don't know it

[upper dust]

good thread here too:
https://forums.insertcredit.com/d/251-exploring-the-sega-saturn-library-in-2020

[compact marlin]

Christmas knights into dreams is such a weird game especially the intro cinematic

[vernal sun]

3ds 3d version is my favorite. 60fps there but with the 3d mode. It works super well on the platform!

[strong zephyr]

That one of the few I haven’t tried yet! Played it on c64 in late 80/early 90 but well wasn’t to hyped. Then 5-6 years ago or so got hooked on md version. Then saturn and then back to arcade vanilla and also canonball mod. Recently got it on switch for less than 2 euro!

[vernal sun]

I think you'd like it. If you get a chance definitely try it out.

[winter phoenix]

hi hello, my top five favorite Saturn games in no particular order are:

• Sakura Wars
• Bulk Slash
• Fighting Vipers
• Vampire Savior
• Cotton 2

I hope you check them out!

[plush pelican]

I have a high tolerance for jank so read my list at your discretion

USA Games

• Amok
  It's a third person mech game where you shoot shit with a bipedal mech.

• Burning Rangers
  A cute third person action game with some platforming and shooting. I'd consier it a jankier Mega Man Legends.

• Darius Gaiden
  It's Darius pushing the 2D capabilities of the Taito F3 and it does it REALLY well. This is the Saturn port.

• Daytona USA
  The legendary meme ROLLINGSTART! racer.

• Die Hard Arcade
  Probably the greatest 5th gen 3D brawler.

• Last Bronx
  One of the greater 3D fighters on the Saturn. It's probably my favorite fighting game on the Saturn actually.

• Mortal Kombat II
  I think it's the best port of this game, and I also think it's the best game in the 2D series.

• Virtua Fighter 2
  You might as well. It's a pivotal game that influenced the entire 3D fighting game genre as you know it.

Japan Games

• Aquazone - Desktop Life
  It's an aquarium, nothing more to it but I love loading it up when I want to leave my MiSTer on idle, althought it will require some fiddling with the menu to get anything going. There are 5 expansions for it if you end up liking it too.

• Arcade Gears Vol. 4 - ImageFight & XMultiply
  ImageFight is a great SHMUP I think everyone should try once.

• Assault Suit Leynos 2
  It's a side-scroller mech shooter. While it reads in Japanese, the core gameplay is playable.

• Final Fight Revenge
  For a lot of people, this fighting game is mostly a curiosity. For me, it's one of the funnest jank fighters you could play on any console.

• Fire Pro Gaiden Blazing Tornado
  It's a slightly simplified version of a highly technical wrestling game series.

• Metal Black
  OMG, one of the best 2D YOKO shooters in existance. I think I like it more than Darius.

• ||Playboy - Karaoke Collection Volume 1||
  ||Full Motion Video collection of softcore porn under the guise of being a karaoke game. No male genetals, just boobs and smoot girl butt.||

• ||Steam-Heart's||
  ||It's a lewd SHMUP with a hidden premise. The boss at the end of each level is under mind control and you have to snap her out of it. The PC Engine version shows a little bit more bits, but the Saturn version plays better and shows less.||

• Thunder Force Gold Pack 2
  It has the two good Thunder Force games you should play before playing Thunder Force V on PS1.

• Zen Nihon Pro Wres featuring Virtua
  It's not the best wrestling game but still worth looking at if you're sifting through the Saturn library.

[gloomy hedge]

bulk slash baby (it has an english translation patch complete with VO!)

oh also how about Three Dirty Dwarves

[mortal mist]

Guardian Heroes , Gungriffon , Steep Slope Sliders, Wing Arms , Virtual On, Dead or Alive, Keio Flying Squadron 2, Thunder Force V, Sega Rally

[mighty zephyr]

Some good choices here

[fallen terrace]

Anyone tried the SOTN demo?

[pearl harbor]

You mean the Genesis demo?

[fallen terrace]

Yeah, the new one.

[pearl harbor]

I've seen it, but haven't tested it myself.

[balmy prawn]

big oof. video no longer available

explains why no embed

[stone sky]

Any news on srg320?

I hope he is well

[mortal mist]

No ,any news

[stone sky]

Thank you, Hoping he's okay.

[pearl harbor]

Hope he had a good holiday.

[sharp mauve]

i like how its just a riot of polygons and weird crap

[drifting frigate]

It's pretty neat. There are some bugs (Pigsy released two versions, one with almost no enemies, to solve it). It looks great and sounds great. I hope he can figure out the VDP lock - I'm guessing he's using SGDK and is probably hitting a conflict on DMA calls. Overall, it feels pretty good and I'm excited to see where it keeps going!

[lavish wadi]

Decathalete could pass for a Dreamcast game… so good

[unkempt oar]

Just got 3.0 RAM. Looking forward to finally playing the core without issue

[pearl harbor]

One of us! One of us!

[unkempt oar]

Lol. I've been putting it off. Figured it was about time.

[pearl harbor]

Now get out there and play some Bug! and Bug Too!

[burnt matrix]

Doing great work while I’m out, thank you.

[pearl harbor]

Gotta fill that Robby shaped hole left in our Saturns.

[light magnet]

Is it just me, or is Pac Man World just a better version of these games?

[pearl harbor]

Madness! ||But yeah, basically.||

[tulip urchin]

I jut got 3.0 ram as well, and looks like sound is working properly now compared to V2.5, but Radiant Silvergun is glitching, was it like that before or is my new ram, can’t remember.

[lusty rapids]

radiant silvergun has some sound glitching still

[edgy hatch]

Oh, I missed those news! When was that memory released? I regret getting two 2̶.̶5̶ edit: 2.9, I have not yet used the second one

[balmy prawn]

I don't even know what RAM I have lol. It's probably 2.9 or something like that

[edgy hatch]

ah thanks! I see people report audio in Saturn is better, is that just comparing to 2.5, and no differences from 2.9?

[mortal mist]

In 2.9/3.0 audio works well

There are problems with 2.4/2.5

The most common problem with audio in older sdram versions is that the music stops at some point

Core is not finished, in the end it may work ok with 2.5 🙂

[edgy hatch]

Thanks a lot for the reply!

[waxen vortex]

So is the RAM the reason why you get scratchy sound on the BIOS and sometimes missing sounds (like in SEGA Rally the title screen is missing sound when you press start).

What I mean by scratchy sound is instead of the Zoom sound effect the Saturn Plays when the BIOS screen appears, I get a static sound effect instead.

[mortal mist]

There is a problem with the sound in the EU version of the bios

[mortal mist]

In Sega Rally, I always have sound when pressing start (engine sound)

And my JAP bios works fine (sound)

[waxen vortex]

I will have to record it, it doesn't play correctly (SEGA Rally Plus) on the core for me.

I am using the Hi Saturn Region Free BIOS and when it should play the Zoom sound effect I get Static.

[mortal mist]

In Sega Rally, the sound when pressing start ( the sound of the engine starting ) is not quite right , if that's what you mean

[waxen vortex]

No that is fine for me too. That isn't the sound I was referring to.

When you go into the CD Player screen it makes a "Zoom" Sound.

[mortal mist]

When it comes to Sega Rally type sound bugs this is not the fault of the sdram, rather the core has a problem with it. Srg320 pointed out that there are many problems with audio

[burnt matrix]

I love Pac Man World, I’m friends with one of the original designers. I need him to sign my game but he lives in Japan lol

[mortal mist]

yes , this issue is in all versions of the bios

hissing

[burnt matrix]

That’s just the core deeming you unfit to be a fan

[mortal mist]

I thought , that the sound was missing at all 🙂

[drowsy hull]

says the guy responsible for saturn not selling!

[waxen vortex]

Hahaha I am a fan of multiple systems 🙂 I just have SEGA as my avatar because it looks cool.

[mortal mist]

a lot is still to be done in the core, not long ago we had no sound at all in some bios 🙂 better with hissing for now

but I'm still having a great time with Saturn's core

[waxen vortex]

I love the core 🙂 its a miracle we even have one.

[acoustic sable]

To add to Kuba's note about the audio not being ram related: don't use the Saturn core as a diagnostic of anything else to do with your MiSTer 😄 It's the core being unadapted and edgy in places, not a fault on the MiSTer side.

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/sega-sega-logo-gif-15009619

[plush pelican]

I hope they never get rid of this logo/sizzle whatever the industry calls it.

[mortal mist]

I hope so too !

[unkempt oar]

I've disliked Bug since I was bought it the day it came out. I was starved for Saturn games so I just grabbed it. I've been depressed ever since.

[unkempt oar]

Not sure when it released but @unkempt kelp had it and as usual it arrived quickly and works perfectly.

[unkempt kelp]

The difference between v2.9 and v3.0 is one component moved from the backside to the frontside of the PCB

[red tangle]

I love the opportunity of playing Shinrei Jusatsushi Tarōmaru (psycho killer Taromaru) . Crt trinitron RGB 29" + Mister Fpga saturn core is all you need. I won't play Bug even if it would be perfectly recreated. I think this is the only game besides hippodrome and snes game jurassic Park that I wouldn't play even if they paid me 1000 dollars. No offense, just my opinion

[serene thunder]

BUG! is misunderstood
is all

[red tangle]

surely, but it was just a technical demonstration of what the saturn could do (to me) as it was that dragon ball z game with sprites + 3d scenarios. And I stop right now, this is a dev channel.

[burnt matrix]

Nah this is a general channel.

Feel free to keep going if you want

🍻

[red tangle]

I have looked into the vhdl thing. I'd better become a patreon rather than start something like a fpga core as I think my IQ only keeps me from pooping my pants. I mean that is REALLY difficult. It is not like learn stuff by heart. Kudos to all devs.

[pearl harbor]

GIFs for one and all!

[high bramble]

Agreed.
People misunderstand just how bad that game actually is. 😏

[burnt matrix]

That was my first experience with the Saturn

[tall radish]

nights into dreams is an excellent Superman 64 clone

[burnt matrix]

I am so mad right now that I didn’t think of that first

This is so good

[tall radish]

hahaha it’s a small but distinctive genre

[burnt matrix]

GOD, imagine your console’s most acclaimed game is basically “Superman 64 but good”

[tall radish]

maybe this is the secret reason sega never made a sequel. nobody can know they made the good Superman 64

[hearty carbon]

I remember buying it and going, "so, you just kind of loop around, huh?"

Wondering what else I could use the controller for

Duke 3d used it maybe? Don't remember

[tall radish]

man, can’t wait for that 3D sonic game to come out on Saturn

[high bramble]

It's a Supermanlike

[pearl harbor]

But they did make a sequel!

[tall radish]

is it the nights holiday special

[pearl harbor]

No, they made one on the Wii!

[burnt matrix]

I was at the Tokyo Game Show where they announced that one, I picked it up eventually but never played it lol

So basically all I played was the TGS demo

[pearl harbor]

It gets a lot of hate, but I honestly didn't think it was bad.

[drifting crown]

Nah, it’s dreadful. Deserves to be forgotten from history.

[red tangle]

pandemonium 2 was the downgraded psx sequel of nights into dreams

[ancient surge]

NiGHTS Journey of Dreams always felt like a misstep because of how it expanded on the original game. I get they wanted to make a more meaty experience compared to the arcade-like approach of the original SEGA Saturn game, but it does suffer from that "jack-of-all-trades" problem of being too unfocused and bloated.

[burnt matrix]

It strayed from its roots being a Supermanlike

[compact marlin]

Supermanlike now that's a genre I can get behind

[granite bear]

Can't find any info about this online: there a way to convert action replay Saturn saves (from the cart with the port to upload to a PC) to mister? I find a general save converter page for a lot of system, but not Saturn.

[trim nimbus]

Yeah, get behind some dumpster outside a fast food place.

[tall radish]

you’re saying I can get a copy of nights into dreams from the same place I got Sneak King?

[compact marlin]

hey don't knock the flying stages in spyro the dragon

[vast trout]

does it take a really long time to load a bin? or am i doing something wrong

trying to load sonic jam and its taking about 15 min

[stiff patrol]

15 mins is way too long

should be under a minute

[vast trout]

yeah im going to reset and try again, or look for another image

[stiff patrol]

best to use redump images

[vast trout]

my OG disc is rotting 😦

[stiff patrol]

not home made ones

and also CHD is supported now too

[vast trout]

Ty Mr. Enchanter

i just ordered a RetroPad32, lol excited to play with my saturn controller

[strong hull]

Took the boys to the park and found this

Now I’m sure 2024 is going to be another great year for Sega Saturn

[silk mauve]

We're about to mark Sega Saturn's first birthday according to the estimated length of a Saturn year.

[rich violet]

Does anyone know how to convert iso/wav/cue to bin/cue on Linux? I want to try the IRRÉEL (UNREAL for Sega Saturn) demo

[tall radish]

first off, what flavor of linux? How ever i think bin2iso and such tools are rather standard across any platform these days. If you don't like that you could always run a small vm with windows and use any of those tools as well.

[sick python]

Seems to work as-is if your just wanting try it out.

[balmy prawn]

if you already have an ISO and/or cue file, you can use CHDMAN to convert to CHD and should be able to use that (pretty sure Saturn core has CHD support now if I'm not mistaken)

will also save space on your microsd

for linux, go to this link, and if you scroll down just a little bit to the instructions part, click over to the linux tab for instructions.
https://wiki.recalbox.com/en/tutorials/utilities/rom-conversion/chdman

[burnt matrix]

Yeah Saturn supports CHD

[pearl harbor]

I also lend my support to CHD.

[twilit forum]

wouldn't it be more fair to say superman 64 is a shitty nights clone? i mean nights came out first

[winter phoenix]

A Nights-em-up

[ancient surge]

https://youtu.be/DyQ9Fcajy7k?si=8uMsps4jsexs4k

New patch just drop that improves Castlevania Symphony of the Night even more.

[hearty carbon]

Compounding additional sins onto that haunted cartridge seems cruel but I can't argue with the logic. I only fear it will create an Object of Power

Grants the director the ability to fly slowly but it's nearly uncontrollable, creates an oppressive fog and blurs the vision.

[gloomy hedge]

man control is great

anyways carry on

[frail token]

is it ever going to reach the PS1 game

[pearl harbor]

So this patch finished the full translation? I thought the previous versions only included a partial translation.

[vernal sun]

Looks like maybe they have fixed some of the art scaling issues? Def need to give this version a go

[trim nimbus]

From the description it feels like the combination patch- the old English patch had some performance and graphics fixes but not all from the original 4mb hack.

So this seems to give you the full English plus the fast loading and all the graphics fixes.

[high bramble]

Symphony of the Nights into Dreams

...it's a Nightsoidvania

[scarlet goblet]

Wasn't tge art scaling pretty much the only unfixable part?

[pearl harbor]

Anyone know how to patch the game using a Mac? Google is not being my friend on that front...

[hearty carbon]

I'll miss the miserable pile of secrets but it's cool as hell people did a translation fix.

[balmy prawn]

Use a virtual machine. Not sure if you can boot a live USB on Apple silicon but I think you can on older Mac that uses Intel

I think VMware has a free option on Mac

[unique coyote]

https://vxtwitter.com/Manic_Socratic/status/1742032656471351702

[naive whale]

Gonna work on a video for 4

[kindred peak]

The great struggle. I haven't found anything for this format for macOS. VMWare Fusion Player is free for personal use. Need to register with an email address. If you're on an M chip, you'll be able to install Win10 or 11 for ARM, and then that will use its own x86 translation layer to run programs. Emulation in your emulation! 😄

[rich violet]

Thanks! I tried that and it worked 🙂

There's a new English translation of Bomberman Fight too: https://segaxtreme.net/resources/saturn-bomberman-fight.277/

[balmy prawn]

anybody got any recommendations for a third party saturn controller that's decent to use but also not some expensive ass 8bitdo style thing?

like how Cipon is recommended for cheap reproduction GC controllers

the saturn controller can be USB as well, doesn't need to be the original connector. I am fine with hooking up to USB on the MiSTer

[ancient surge]

I personally use the Retrobit USB SEGA Saturn controller for both SEGA Saturn and SEGA Genesis stuff, and I have had no issues with it.

[balmy prawn]

👀

they have a wireless with analog sticks for doubling as a 3D controller most likely.

but it costs $35 whole doll hairs

[balmy prawn]

not sure where you get one of these lol.
All I can see is that they sell an officially licensed controller that connects using an orignial Saturn port connector

which means I would further need an adapter at which point I could just buy a used SuperPad controller for less on eBay then get an adapter

[short shore]

They sell both saturn port and usb

[balmy prawn]

I don't see that

not on Amazon or their official site

[short shore]

For their wired sega saturn controller?

[balmy prawn]

I see now, I have to look under PC

and I had to check under a different sub link on their amazon page

[short shore]

The Amazon page isnt all that intuitive to search

But its there

[balmy prawn]

$20 though.... feels a bit steep ngl

I'll have to bookmark and keep it in mind

[short shore]

It'll go on sale throughout the year im sure

But if you want an authentic saturn controller experience this is probably as cheap as it gets

I also have an original JP style saturn controller and a wired USB retrobit one, they're pretty similar except for the bumpers, but the difference isn't all that important imo

And the difference is just that the original model uses a "mouse click" for its bumpers, the retrobit one uses a more SNES style click

[balmy prawn]

Ok, so this is weird, I can see them essentially advertising a Saturn Pro controller, but when you click on it, it just shows you the normal saturn controllers

They have thumb sticks but I can't actually find them anywhere lol

ope, found links buried

have to buy it from either Rondo or Castlemania

it's $50

a couple other sites, one of which is canadian. but those two are the primary ones I see for US

[rich violet]

I don't think it was well reviewed

Maybe they're improving it

[light magnet]

Just a heads up, I tried the official Retro-Bit Saturn controller with USB. The buttons and dpad were inferior to the authentic Sega ones. Ended up returning it. Not great.

[balmy prawn]

I mean, for $50 you gotta bring your A game with the build quality, the feel of buttons and sticks, along with wireless latency

I wouldn't know cuz I don't have any Sega controllers @light magnet

[light magnet]

The 8bitdo M30 is better for MiSTer IMO. The dpad still has slight issues with inconsistent diagonals, but the buttons are all great.

[rich violet]

Yeah, I'm really happy with the M30 for Saturn and Mega Drive cores

[naive whale]

So it boots on MiSTer?

I’m gonna use Mednafen today just so I can tell people it’s readily available w/o hardware

But I can mention MiSTer in the vid / maybe show a little footage

[rich violet]

Yeah, the Unreal demo. I think it's a bit glitchy on MiSTer. At first I had a load of rubbish across the screen and but the level was visible behind. Then I walked around a bit and the glitchiness cleared and it looked pretty good. There was maybe some texture flickering that I didn't see when I watched a YouTube recording of it (from real hardware I assume)

[thorny lion]

Woooah! the dialogue font is so cool looking

[rich violet]

But it might have been my CHDing?

[mortal mist]

Yeah , There are bugs on core

There is definitely a problem with lighting

In Unreal demo on mister

[pearl harbor]

Just ended up grabbing it from the romantic place.

[pearl harbor]

I have one of these. It's...okay.

[vast trout]

i wish 8Bitdo made the 3D Saturn Controller, that shit was so comfortable in my hands

i can't play NiGHTS without it

holy shit https://www.retrorgb.com/saturns-3d-control-pad-has-gone-wireless.html because you can pop off the wire, someone made it wireless

[rich violet]

Nice! I got some additional glitching

[trim nimbus]

Yeah, I am really close to ordering a Hyperkin duke even with the bad reviews to get a decent Saturn pad replacement.

[naive whale]

Has anyone tested the new Saturn SotN translation on MiSTer yet?

[balmy prawn]

yes

[pearl harbor]

I shall test it in a bit.

[balmy prawn]

it's why I'm looking to buy a cheap USB gamepad from Ali just to get a proper button layout

[trim nimbus]

Duke is on the expensive side. I love the original Xbox controller and would have ordered it in a heartbeat if the reviews didn’t talk about how poor of quality it was.

[balmy prawn]

I have a Duke, and it sucks

S controllers are better

[mortal mist]

I love m30 ❤️

[balmy prawn]

I have three S controllers, with one duke. If I ever have up to 4 people playing on my Xbox at once, fourth player gets the controller nobody wants lol

[pearl harbor]

That's only a concern for popular people...

[silk mauve]

I love the Duke, but my hands are pretty dang large.

[balmy prawn]

it's not even it's size that makes it bad.
It's the weird slanted angle of the buttons, and the location of the black and white buttons that makes it suck for me

[silk mauve]

I remember having a hard time adjusting to the S model's black and white button placement when it released.

[pearl harbor]

Just tried it out, and it definitely works on MiSTer! I did notice that the music only seems to come out of the left speaker in a stereo setup though, but I think the original Saturn version already has that issue to begin with.

Sound effects are fine, it's just the music that does that.

Honestly not a fan of Richter's updated sprite. I get that it's more accurate to his key art for the game, but it doesn't look as well made as the original sprite work for the character.

[burnt matrix]

why would they update his sprite lol

[pearl harbor]

Sounds like you can still use the original sprite for him if you play as him for the main game, but I think you're stuck with the new art for the prologue in Alucard's campaign.

[rich violet]

I've never played SotN

[native dagger]

If you've played one post-SotN castlevania then you've played them all

[rich violet]

I've never played any castlevania 😅

[balmy prawn]

Then you should start with Castlevania for N64

Despite what all the haters say it's pretty good

[ancient surge]

Play Haunted Castle.

[balmy prawn]

Then you never actually played it

[mortal mist]

Yeah ok 🙂

[naive whale]

Perfect. Just finishing capturing in Mednafen. Onto editing

I’ll mention you in the vid as confirming for me

[mortal mist]

For every game you don't like, I'll say you haven't played it

[pearl harbor]

I don't like Superman 64!

[mortal mist]

You didn't play it ! And it is great

[pearl harbor]

Ironically, I actually haven't played Superman 64! Ploooot twiiiiist!

[pearl harbor]

[mortal mist]

I just definitely have more fun with Castlevania in 2d

[silk mauve]

Don't hold it to any echelon that you would hold a traditional side-scrolling Castlevania game. Relieve yourself of any expectations and you'll have a ton of fun with C64.

It's up there with Quest 64 in my opinion

[pearl harbor]

I do genuinely like Castlevania 64. It's nowhere near the 2D games for me, but I still have always liked it.

[pastel basalt]

hey where can we grab the dual sdram version of the core? the workflow artifacts on github are expired

[mortal mist]

#unstable-nightlies message

[pastel basalt]

tyvm

[tall agate]

anyone have the pinout for the saturn SNAC?

[mortal mist]

maybe @inner token could help

[hardy lodge]

I read something about a new english patch for the saturn version of symphony of the night?

[mortal mist]

yes 🙂

The main features of this version of the game are:

Full English translation;
Restoration of translucency of many objects;
Direct access to the global map;
Finalization of the global map;
Restoration of original proportions of some sprites;
Removal of horizontal blacks;
Skipping video clips and dialog;
Access to an alternate Richter costume;
Reduced load times;
Support for a 4MB expansion card;
Bug fixes;
Advanced difficulty mode;

[hardy lodge]

Sounds awesome, anyone try it on the core yet?

[mortal mist]

yeah, @pearl harbor #1046941029296779344 message

[inner token]

yeah, can I ask what you're going to try to do first?

[halcyon mica]

I just tried it, and the music is stereo and from both speakers. I used a premade image someone on twitter posted

is it left-only also in the sound check for you?

My system: single SDRAM v2.5, tried both latest stable and unstable core

[upper dust]

Haven't played much, but outside of garbled music during the initial conversation with Death it seems to work well. I think I have 2.5 RAM - single stick. Just remember that Up+Start opens the map!

[mortal mist]

as I recall in the org jap version there is also a problem with the sound when meeting death

The core does not work quite correctly, and as we know there are many problems with sound

[upper dust]

Ah didn't know about the original having that bug. I've got no problem with the sound/other issues - thankful we have this WIP core to play with!

[green swift]

Up+start is my MiSTer menu button combo. 😦

[balmy prawn]

swap it for Up+Select instead then, or make it Select+Start

Personally, after having played this DC Ultimate version for a bit, sound is lacking severely. It's quiet and missing the flair of PSX. It just sounds like crap to me.
Perhaps it's just something to do with the core? Because otherwise it's just crap music by comparison.

Voice acting is.... different. Taken from the PSP release I think?

Not sure how I feel about it.

[mortal mist]

yes, voice acting is from PSP

I definitely prefer the original from PSX

I remember the first time I played SotN on the PSP and didn't know what was going on ( what did they do to the dialogues ??!!) 😄

[balmy prawn]

The custom font is... OK. It's thematically appropriate because it's Castelvania font, but at the same time, I feel like it's a bit much and forces you to have to focus a bit more to read the words.
I play on a CRT though, so it's probably a bit more cleaner to read using an emulator or something at higher res on an LCD

I can't continue playing it for now however because I just can't handle button config on my PS5 controller. Going to just wait until I get a cheapo Saturn USB controller from Aliexpress to then do a full playthrough of it using MiSTer

[quaint dove]

I got a PS5 controller just to play ps1 on my mister and those select/start buttons… I can’t. I bought a DualShock 1 and snac adapter

[balmy prawn]

buttons don't bother me for that.
the layout is appropriate for playing PSX games though which is nice. In fact, it works for pretty much everything but six button Sega

[burnt matrix]

Yeah it’s a bit wacky

[quaint dove]

Mine dies or glitches out a lot and I can’t tell if it’s just not a good controller or because I bought it used

Wait this is Saturn not rambleaboutdualshocks

[green swift]

My Saturn controller only has a start button. 😉 I should probably start using Start+Down as a lot of things seem to use Start+up like some flash carts.

[balmy prawn]

oh, and some N64. I have found that some N64 games I can play just fine using the DualSense, and some I just cannot.
Especially when it comes to trying to map the other stick to C Buttons.
Pain in the ass, so I have to wait to get myself an N64 controller

[jagged quartz]

General audio quality in this version is a real sore spot for me, as well. It's somewhat bothersome to get past sometimes.

I just bolstered my Saturn library last night, and brought in a few multiplats. The audio quality in most of them are just... Barf.

Exclusives are good, though.

I have to say, though. I think I felt physical pain when I played Tomb Raider 🤣

The Saturn is trying so hard.

[mortal mist]

I especially recommend the sections in which you swim , there's a sound bug in core that can destroy the brain

#1046941029296779344 message

[jagged quartz]

Is it as bad as the ear rape when you first meet Death in SOTN?

[mortal mist]

Worse

Haha

[jagged quartz]

OH MY GAWD! HAHA

Just watched that!

[mortal mist]

Haha yeah

[jagged quartz]

I need to connect my phone to my loud ass Bluetooth speaker while that's going... Toss it in my room mates room while he's sleeping.

[mortal mist]

He will get a heart attack , I don't know if it's safe 🙂

[jagged quartz]

I was also sad to find that Salamander 2 doesn't work 😞

[mortal mist]

this sound is.... shrill

[jagged quartz]

So I just played it on PlayStation...

[lunar pelican]

random question, the sound on this core is a lot quieter for me than other cores, like inaudible at a volume that is totally fine on others, is there anything I can look into settings-wise to adjust that?

[jagged quartz]

Yeah... I don't think that's correct. 🤣

[jagged quartz]

Have you checked your core volume in OSD?

[mortal mist]

in most cases you won't do anything , many games have too quiet music and you can't change it

[lunar pelican]

i dont see an option for core volume

[jagged quartz]

Yeah... I can't tell you how many times I've played the Saturn core, then moved to the PlayStation core and was nearly blown away by the bios.

[lunar pelican]

oh i see it now, it is at max

well it's not a big deal just have to remember to adjust the tv volume, thanks

[mortal mist]

In general, there is a problem with the sound in the core, this needs improvement

[lunar pelican]

at first i thought there was no sound at all, but it was just quieter than my air conditioning lol

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/loud-music-speakers-explode-loud-rock-and-roll-gif-16482155

I know what you mean haha

[jagged quartz]

It shouldn't be THAT quiet. Which game?

[lunar pelican]

all games, but i dont have the TV up very loud, its fine with the other cores but for this one i just turn it up and its totally fine

[jagged quartz]

I was going to ask about your RAM, but it seems you're playing games without issues...

Other than low volume, I mean.

[mortal mist]

if the sound is set to hear" something " ,then from saturn core you will hear almost nothing 😛

[jagged quartz]

I once had a 128 MB stick from Antonio Villena that caused me so many issues with Saturn.

[jagged quartz]

I dunno... This and Tomb Raider are kinda close.

I had a funny bug while testing Resident Evil. In the cutscene toward the beginning, when Jill and Barry are heading back to the dining room, and Wesker says "Stay Alert." Both characters are supposed to stop, and turn to Wesker to nod. They did the nod, but when they ran toward the door the camera never switched and they just ran in circles.

I've never seen that happen before 🤣

[mortal mist]

On Saturn it sounds like this

[mortal mist]

there is another bug, Jill is standing and just shaking her head

[jagged quartz]

Oh, wow! It's almost like it's missing some kind of low pass filter or something.

[mortal mist]

on core it sounds much worse

[jagged quartz]

That's what I meant. Missing in the core.

[pearl harbor]

Interesting. Must be a core bug then. It only ocurrs with Castlevania SotN for me. And only the music (all other audio like sound effects is stereo in the game).

[burnt matrix]

it's actually called Dracula X - Nocturne in the Moonlight

[pearl harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[jagged quartz]

So, I was confused by the change log. It said that the title screen is changed to the English version. I understand that title is IN English, but where is it called Nocturne in the Moonlight?

I plead ignorance here.

[burnt matrix]

in the title

[balmy prawn]

Nocturne in the Moonlight is the English translation of the Japanese name for the game

[jagged quartz]

I JUST read that.

Derp on me.

[burnt matrix]

it's ok, the title is also derp

[jagged quartz]

I mean, it can grow on me.. I can get used to it, but...

[balmy prawn]

SotN ~vs~ NitM

[jagged quartz]

About like Richter's new look. At least, as far as I understand, that's only in the prologue.

[balmy prawn]

I think Nocturne in the Moonlight is more poetic

That's his alternate outfit

[pearl harbor]

I really don't like the new Richter sprite.

Thankfully if you play as him for the main campaign, you can still use the old look by holding up when selecting him.

[jagged quartz]

There is the tidbit I was looking for. thank you, Mario.

[balmy prawn]

it's only like that when you play as Alucard, I think it uses original when you play as Ricther.
Also, if you pay enough attention, his sprite flips back and forth during the conversation with Dracula at the beginning of the game whenever his sprite moves around to do hand gestures

[jagged quartz]

I'm so used to seeing Richter in his usual outfit, I didn't even notice the Sprite flickering...

Now I have to play it again, just to see it.

[balmy prawn]

not sure if it happens when you play as him, but it happens when you play as Alucard

[jagged quartz]

It was a lot less noticeable than those wonky Saturn level tiles... That aspect ratio, what the heck even is that? I know that's just a thing the Saturn version does but still.

[stiff patrol]

still dont trust that patch renaming a dll to an exe then deleting it all looks shifty

[jagged quartz]

Come on, Tim. Live a little..

[balmy prawn]

it probably does it so that Windows doesn't potentially throw up an error saying some stupid shit about how it's a DLL file that may be used by other programs and they can stop working if it gets deleted

[pearl harbor]

I just downloaded the prepatched game.

[balmy prawn]

Windows does that sometimes and it's annoying

[stiff patrol]

Trust No One !

[balmy prawn]

Nothing is true, everything is permitted

https://tenor.com/view/ezio-revelations-gif-23237996

[jagged quartz]

Windows defender has kept me safe so far.

[stiff patrol]

I would rather not rely on it

[burnt matrix]

you're a prepatched game

[jagged quartz]

I began using avast antivirus all the way back when it looked like a glorified media player. Nowadays it has changed so much, and has added so much nag ware I just couldn't stand it. I've been running raw ever since, for about two years now.

[stiff patrol]

yes but your webcam is so boring.

[jagged quartz]

Hey, "don't give 'em a reason"

[balmy prawn]

Cool thing about Defender is, it's better than people give it credit for, is low resource, and integrated.
it works perfectly as a general purpose anti virus that just simply helps a little in the background in combination with safe internet usage

[burnt matrix]

we found bill gates

[balmy prawn]

if you like, feel free to check out any number of videos putting it through it's paces and ranking it on The PC Security Channel

[jagged quartz]

Said Linus Torvalds.

Oh, hey @naive whale! We were just talking about you.

[naive whale]

What did I do? If it was good I take credit. If it wasn’t I deny it all

[jagged quartz]

Atta boy.

[naive whale]

Ahh Castlevania talk eh?

[stiff patrol]

Not sure but lets just listen for 45 seconds

[naive whale]

You are lucky I don’t up it to 69 seconds for the laughs

[stiff patrol]

you wouldnt last 69 seconds !

[jagged quartz]

Do it on April first. See if anyone catches it.

[jagged quartz]

Quite a bit! Great coverage, by the way!

[naive whale]

Thanks. I figured why not do a vid. Ended up doing super well

Which still goes to prove when I plan things do poorly. When I just throw something into the ether it does well 🤣

[stiff patrol]

you need to do a State of the Channel video

complaining about ad sense money

and how you are burnt out

or dying of something

[jagged quartz]

Speaking of, how did your "F--- Nintendo" video do?

I was with you there.

[pearl harbor]

Robby was talking about your mom!

[jagged quartz]

That precision F-bomb at the end will stick with me for a long time 🤣

[naive whale]

Haha let me see

Super strong start, zero tail

Diff kinda vid but this is what you hope for

It’s January now. So views will dip. Revenue will plummet. Small children will cry and the skies will rain fire 🤣

[serene thunder]

That's gonna be status quo for 2024

[sudden tusk]

Please don’t say such things

[serene thunder]

OK, but we are T-minus 10 months and counting

[trim nimbus]

waiting for the video titled “It’s time….” where you start in a somber tone talking about how after a “few years of videos talking about emulation and fpgas” and launch into “it is time you all update all your emulators, look at all the great accomplishments in 2023”

[serene thunder]

"Taking a break" ... from playing games for today. My hands are crampy!

[trim nimbus]

hah

[hardy lodge]

Damn that vge vid really sold me on the new symphony patch.

[drifting frigate]

It's quite good. A ton of fun for sure, and the minor pixel aspect issue is made a way bigger deal than it needs to be. It's going to annoy you if you're looking for it, but it's barely noticeable if you're into the game.

The transparencies were much more of a visual shock so having transparencies restored is excellent. It's a really good port (though I do wish they'd gone with the PSX audio instead of the PSP 'fixed' audio...it's less cheesy but that's part of the charm IMO)

[hearty carbon]

Transparencies were such a sticking point for the Saturn

So many games that came out on multiple platforms just looked rough on the Saturn

[drifting frigate]

Yep, absolutely.

[hearty carbon]

Exclusives were designed around the limitations but it sure seemed like ports couldn't be bothered.

[drifting frigate]

But then you get the Capcom games as a feather in the cap. It was truly a time of awesome differentiation.

Yeah, exactly.

[trim nimbus]

can you run it through a good scaler with nearest neighbor to obscure the shimmer?

[pearl harbor]

I remember when I was playing through Bayonetta 3 on my Switch, I was like, is this a secret Sega Saturn game!?

I've never seen so many Saturn style dithered transparencies in a modern game.

[drifting frigate]

I think the issue is that the actual viewport is incorrectly scaled slightly. So I don't know that there's a scaler fix for it. Someone else may know more. But because it's not every pixel, I feel like it's part of the actual presentation layer at hardware. Might be an interesting romhack to look at. Force internal integer scaling for a smaller window, but better image cohesiveness.

[serene thunder]

So how did they fix the dithers

[kindred sundial]

Has anyone heard from Srg320 recently? I know things have escalated over there

[hushed zodiac]

He just posted on x that he's fine

[kindred sundial]

Awesome news! Very happy to hear that

[hushed zodiac]

Hi, I'm fine. I'm out of the occupation. I've ordered Mister hardware and I'm waiting for it. I'll continue to work on the cores when I receive the hardware.

13hrs ago on his x replies

[subtle tusk]

Sounds like he relocated somewhere safer, but without his equipment. That doesn't sound great but at least he's safe.

[ancient surge]

https://vxtwitter.com/srg320_/status/1742464385363116157?t=5fC6RjCQHeh2ANrKTcem_g&s=19

Okay so that's why things have been stalling. I assumed he was maybe just busy.

[lavish wadi]

If Sergiy needed a MiSTer I would have overnighted it to them 🤣. I’m just happy for their health.

[hearty carbon]

Yeah, I deleted my rant there but the whole situation irritates me. I'm glad they're okay.

[lavish wadi]

That shows pride if it was the case. (Don’t want to ask for anything) I can respect it and have to remember they don’t have to do it at all. Wish I could help everyone in this world, but it’s just not possible. All we can do is care for each other.

[frail token]

I'm out of the loop what happened? I never heard about occupation

And I would have contributed money toward a MiSTer setup as well!

Or anything really

[quaint dove]

Russian Occupation of Ukraine

[pearl harbor]

I'm pretty sure he had been in an occupied area of Ukraine for a pretty long time.

[frail token]

Ahh damn I didn't realize his area was

I'm glad he's out

[analog totem]

Very glad to see that srg made it out of there too!

[scenic snow]

I think not, think he is in Luhansk that was not under occupation pre-2022

That's how I remember it from twitter when this all happened at least

Ah the news is he is out. Good for him!

[ripe valley]

Great news.

[tall agate]

just want to make an adapter

[naive whale]

That’s what I’m here for

[gloomy hedge]

Yoooo fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhh

[green swift]

He was in Bilokurakyne which is pretty damn close to the border and is behind the combat line now.

[light magnet]

Wow had no idea people in the community were caught up in this.

[mortal mist]

very good news in the morning ! thank you for the info 🙂

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/sega-saturn-sega-saturn-startup-gif-25561037

[tall agate]

o, is it same as genesis?

does this make sense @inner token

[naive perch]

can we run the SOTN patch now with single ram

[mortal mist]

Saturn core works fine with single ram

[naive perch]

ah

just asked cuz they mentioned it runs well with the 4mb ram pack for saturn

[mortal mist]

Yes , there is an option to select 4M in core, works with one sdram

[naive perch]

perfect

[inner token]

yep looks right, same as genesis so both saturn and genesis pads can work with the core.

[tall agate]

thanks 🙂 I'm gonna order some boards

[thorn pagoda]

srg320s out of the russian occupied area now? thats the best news ever

[jagged quartz]

What actually is the difference with dual sdram?

More games work?

[mortal mist]

nope

[inner token]

here's what mine looks like.

[mortal mist]

I haven't noticed any differences between dual and single at the moment, maybe it used to matter

i tested a lot of games , when something didn't work I checked on dualsdram to see if there was a difference

Of course, these are just my results, with the games I have

[balmy prawn]

I think it only matters when using older version SDRAM

like v2.4/2.5

[mortal mist]

I think so , some time ago I tested sdram 2.4 (duslasdram ) and the sound was ok for example in Sega Rally

maybe I'll find time to check it out more

[naive whale]

Bad new everyone. MiSTer is a scam. We’ve all been had! 🤣

[mortal mist]

I like my scam

[naive whale]

Do they think MiSTer isn’t even running Saturn? I’m so confused

[mortal mist]

And i love my worthless MiSTer

They are so worthless that I already have three

[green swift]

It’s coming from someone that hasn’t used it, clearly. Armchair expert. One less person to fight over a DE-10 with. 🙂

[mortal mist]

Nothing to take in , not everyone needs to understand what a MiSTer is

https://tenor.com/view/code-purpose-of-life-matrix-gif-5601363

[naive whale]

Classic reaction any time I do a vid that says “you NEED this”…weirdos come out just to try and fight

[burnt matrix]

People sometimes get defensive over things they don’t have or they aren’t a part of. It’s ignorance fueled by jealousy and frustration.

[mortal mist]

Or someone who couldn't handle MiSTer 🤪

[burnt matrix]

A lot of people have trouble accepting that other choices or solutions can be considered better by others. Sometimes that manifests into feelings of inadequacy, which is something @naive whale knows a lot about.

[mortal mist]

Nothing will surprise me anymore after the Amiga vs Atari wars

[burnt matrix]

||I’m very proud of that one, don’t hate me lol||

[burnt matrix]

lol really, what platforms?

[naive whale]

It’s true. I used to go four rounds with your mom. Now I can only get three in. Old age

[burnt matrix]

lmaaaao

[mortal mist]

It was about Atari computers

But that was Poland of the 1990s

Haha

[burnt matrix]

That’s cool

[mortal mist]

Amiga 500 vs Atari ST 🙂

There are still quite a few Amiga and Atari events in Poland

By the way, MiSTer has become my main platform for fun for several years now

I'm having a good time here and have met a lot of cool people

[upper dust]

yeah no one cares about retro (or most modern gaming) in my small circle of IRL people, so knowing there is a group that's as into this stuff as I am is confidence boost

[green swift]

I sort of understand where they’re coming from. We’re inundated with videos that are titled “you NEED this!” these days. For MiSTer it’s indeed true though. 🙂

[ancient surge]

Really my main complaint with MiSTer is just that support for Japanese computers is really limited. Otherwise it's a solid all-in-one solution for a lot of platforms.

[naive whale]

I’m just gonna do a video on my crotch. “You need this”…send it to @burnt matrix s mother and sisters (if they exist)

[green swift]

Don’t let them see this, they’ll beg!

[upper dust]

I think it's a matter of natural progression if you're into old stuff too. Sure you can emulate in lots of places, but when you notice the hitching, dig into settings per emulator, can't get the shaders to look quite right, feel the input lag, consider buying and modding real consoles, you inevitably run into the MiSTer. Especially with N64 and Saturn on the platform.

[naive whale]

The odd part is I think dude was implying MiSTer isn’t even real? Or we’re faking it 😂

CGI. AI smoke and mirrors.

lol so many complaints today just saying “you should buy a MiSTer”. Fine. More for us!

[mortal mist]

Maybe he was in a coma for 10 years? Maybe he doesn't know that this is the new reality with MiSTer

You never know

[tall radish]

clearly the fpga is snake oil, we’re actually just playing all these games on the ARM cores

[mortal mist]

I once tried to explain to one person what an fpga is

[upper dust]

It's a price thing too. Scoffing at the higher price of the MiSTer when they think a RetroPie or other small hobby board and do the same. Clearly they have not put in the effort to know the difference. Those cheaper boards are fine for an entry level device so people can be like "Oh cool - I can play NES games with this tiny thing!" and barely touch it, but not for a person who knows something with them is off.

[stiff patrol]

DE10 is a lie its really jsut a rebadged Pi 2 !

[mortal mist]

I don't mind the nomenclature, whether it's emulation , simulation or recreation , but it's hard to explain to some people

[tall radish]

shit I’ve known people who’ve paid mister money for a raspberry pi

[upper dust]

And I say that as a person who has built many RetroPies for other people - lol

yeah it was crazy for a few years. I can get Pis at MSRP at my local Micro Center, but people still gouge online

[mortal mist]

I know a lot of people who prefer to buy pi , because it is cheaper and I understand that

Sometimes someone has a few games they want to play twice a year

Or take it to some retro event

[tall radish]

plus branded recreation consoles tend to be at or just under the mister’s price point and 9 out of 10 of those are a waste of money (I’m bitter cause outside of I think the new spectrum? nobody has had the courage to just ship a high quality fpga box with a high quality default core as their branded clone console)

[naive whale]

I mean I have a Pi 5 on my desk now. Nothing wrong with options

[upper dust]

I think the Saturn and N64 are the real breaking point that seperates the MiSTer from the rest though. Nothing else can do it properly (or at all) other than a high end PC with LLE emulation cores

[naive whale]

But the whole “this does it for less”…sure. You can get a base model Kia or a fancy BMW…they both DRIVE. But its a totally diff deal

[upper dust]

right - it's a matter of proper representation. I think inaccurate emulation or improper display can do a disservice to the games to the general person, but it just depends on how much they care

[mortal mist]

But mister can't Deamcast and Gamecube !!!

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[burnt matrix]

What does it say about me if I have both? Lol

[tall radish]

god whoever owns the Atari name now could eat analogue’s lunch if they shipped an fpga board in a nice looking case

[burnt matrix]

They better act quick, they don’t have a lot of years left before people who care about Atari die of old age

[subtle tusk]

Anyone calling MiSTer a "cheap little hack solution" hasn't been looking at De-10 nano prices recently

[mortal mist]

That you are a celeb

[upper dust]

I think it's good to be well versed in emulation with a variety of devices for different use cases too. I can load up my Steam Deck with emulators for portability, use a RetroPie on a trip for casual gaming on a HDTV, use the MiSTer at home on a CRT. Also just fun to explore what people have made for emulating these old consoles in general. As usual when you start to dismiss something, it'll ruffle some feathers - lol

[naive whale]

I agree. That SotN video I ran I did on Mednafen. Because I wanted everyone to know they could enjoy it. No real Saturn or FPGA needed

[frail token]

Is that... Canadian whatever his name was that made that video

[naive whale]

No it’s my vid. He was responding to it

[frail token]

The user I mean

Remember Canadian gamer or whatever his name made a video about how mister is a scam

[jagged quartz]

Its kind of a good thing you did, There are a few... ear-rapey moments in the game on MiSTer right now.

[naive whale]

I always warn people on Saturn videos…start volume low and increase from there. Before you make your ears bleed accidentally

I need to do a new Saturn testing video. It’s been too long

[vernal sun]

My grandma got taken in by the mister scam...she lost everything and now lives on the streets. Thanks mister!

[naive whale]

MiSTer Nigerian Prince!

[vernal sun]

First MiSTer stole her heart. Then it stole her retirement

[willow siren]

But I got an IOU Board in the post, the money will come I'm sure. Can't be a scam. CANT BE!

[upper dust]

ordered a MiSTer Saturn off of amazon, and it felt a little light...

[serene thunder]

wat

[light magnet]

They don't know what an FPGA is.

[naive whale]

Lol well they were angry enough to report me to Reddit as suicidal and report my posts as hate speech so 🤗 someone doesn’t like FPGA

THANKS @burnt matrix

[light magnet]

You sure use a lot of different names

[naive whale]

Who me?

[pearl harbor]

Did I miss MiSTer gate? Am I in a cult!? What is happening!?!?!?

[naive whale]

I started as chicagogamecollector when I just posted shit on IG for my collection. Then I started VGE. But on this server @pearl harbor yelled at me when I changed my name so I’m only awbacon here

[naive whale]

Suicide cult apparently!

[pearl harbor]

Yur dang right I yelled at ya!

[light magnet]

I legit worry about the mental health of people who start wars on the internet over essentially nothing.

[naive whale]

Yeah this video brought the spice out of some people 🤣

[light magnet]

Like FPGA hobbyists being part of some cult.

[pearl harbor]

With the spice comes the views and engagement! 🤑

[naive whale]

Haha I don’t care. But wow people get worked up. These aren’t “hot takes” saying MiSTer is good 🤣

[pearl harbor]

In your next video, you should say that anyone without a MiSTer isn't a true gamer, and see the ensue.

[naive whale]

Lol wait til I do my twin CRT videos soon

“Why you NEED a CRT in 2024” and “Why You DONT Need a CRT in 2024”…gonna argue both sides against myself

[light magnet]

There are people for whom nothing but the original hardware works. Discs, carts, and controllers included.

I'm looking for a CRT. That video time out you get on a monitor whenever the res changes is unbearable.

I did help preserve a 34XBR960 last year though. Epic curbside find which I unfortunately couldn't keep.

[burnt matrix]

Wait what the hell?

That’s fucked up

[naive whale]

then stop doing it! lolol

[burnt matrix]

as much as I want to laugh, that shit ain’t funny. It’s not cool that happened to you.

I’m really sorry

[naive whale]

Haha it’s fine. It’s been happening for years. I genuinely just laugh. Idiots with too much time on their hands

[hearty carbon]

Yeah, that suicidal reporting button is arguably too easy to use.

I said, "maybe Portland cops shouldn't be bulldozing homeless camps and throwing all the few things they own in the garbage" and someone reported me as suicidal

A million false reports for one person that actually gets help is maybe a win?

[naive whale]

It is sad. It’s there for real help. But people on Reddit weaponize it to annoy people

And you know that means people slip through the cracks

[celest iris]

robby doesn't do reddit much i guess

[naive whale]

R/RobbyFans

@burnt matrix posts nudes shot at the Alamo

[celest iris]

bye the way

literally today

you can report those

which is even funnier

also i might get them a lot

[naive whale]

I do. They delete accounts and restart. All the same person. Or two. Who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️

[celest iris]

some are three day old accounts, but some are not because people who do that are not very bright

i shouldn't enjoy watching seven-year-old accounts disappear for being shitty humans, but i do

also "chicago game collector" is so literal

[naive whale]

I was uninspired that day lol

I stopped posting on IG forever ago but a giant chunk of my collection is on there under that name

[pearl harbor]

I should change my name to Wisconsin Cheese Collector.

[trim nimbus]

Can’t spell Wario without Wisconsin

[naive whale]

Wisconsin Cheddar Bro

[drifting crown]

Can I be English Tea Collector?

[drifting frigate]

English Tear. maybe.

[light magnet]

I could change my name to... What do Floridians collect?

[stiff patrol]

Pensions

[naive whale]

Florida Felony Drug Charge Collector

[stiff patrol]

Secret Nuclear Documents

[jagged quartz]

+607777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777.

[hearty carbon]

say hi to your cat for me

[jagged quartz]

Dammit... I looked through every channel of every server I'm a part of, hoping it didnt happen...

[sick python]

use this as a username and join the War Thunder Forums

[strong zephyr]

Oh god, as a dutchie i do have a lot of stuff to collect. Weed, clogs, prostitutes, windmills, wait stroopwafels might be a good one. Oh and who can forget the Dykes. Am I forgetting any stereotypes? 😂

[serene thunder]

bicycles

[sick python]

Isn't that amsterdam? More bicycles than people or something?

[strong zephyr]

Generally’we’ own a lot of bikes

1.4 for the country, 1.3 for amsterdam. I figured the number might indeed be higher in Amsterdam due to people owning a good bike and a crappy one for going to places with a high chance of it getting stolen or vandalised.

[hearty carbon]

Decoy Bicycle.

$20 bike with 10k dollar bike stickers on it that you lock up next to your actual 10k bicycle which is primer spraypaint black

[trim nimbus]

so you own one bike and “share .4” of one?

[strong zephyr]

Yes with 4 families in the street. 2.1 kids per family times four get us there!

[ancient narwhal]

https://www.ebay.com/p/16040200386

does anyone have expeirence with these Retro-Bit Wireless Sega Saturn controllers?

curious if the button / d+pad feel is authentic to the original first party controllers

https://retro-bit.com/sega-collaboration

the new versions with the dual analog sticks also seem interesting

[naive perch]

could someone tell me which revision is needed for the SOTN patch ? It didnt work for me

[light magnet]

I had one and returned it after a few days. Dpad felt a bit flatter in terms of tactility and response, and some of the buttons felt spongy. It's nowhere near the greatness of the original IMO.

[analog totem]

I have one and like it, but it definitely doesn’t feel 1:1 to an OEM pad

[next bronze]

Their Saturn BT pad felt like one of their better ones, until the dpad just stopped working (and Amazon reviews suggested it was a common issue).

The Genesis ones don't have the same issue, but have the pad raised too high.

[craggy scaffold]

I have one. 2.4ghz and labeled as v2. It is a little different but a very good dpad.

I prefer it to my retro-bit genesis 2.4 ghz controller.

The v2 saturn pads are stated by retro-bit to have improved latency but I don't think anyone has tested it.

[balmy prawn]

revision of what?

[ancient narwhal]

ugh ah man, yeah i was worried this would be the case

[naive perch]

i saw there were 2 revisions of the rom so im not sure

[tidal marsh]

having tried a few of the retrobit sega pads the 8 button wired megadrive ones feel best to me

wireless saturn one broke in like 5 minutes, wireless megadrive ones just feel weird

the wired saturn ones are good but feel cheap af

[balmy prawn]

I only know of just one revision which is the one by redump

I've never seen a different dump of the game before

[pearl harbor]

Outside of OEM controllers, the M30 is still the best option in my opinion.

[strong zephyr]

I want to get that retrobit pro saturn pad mostly for sf4. Two shoulder buttons (1 for punch and one for kick ultra’s) and 6 front buttons and a Saturn dpad was what I always wanted. Was gonna order via amazon france but still waiting as it will be released march? But saw another shop already seems to either already ship or during January…

[versed violet]

i remember very well that "16bits war" !
since i was quite confused by it, i decided to skip those 68000 computers coming directly from my 6502/Z80 8bits and assembled my very first own PC, one based on the 386SX16 and fully enjoyed Wolfenstein 3D super innovative game of those days !
i never looked back to the 68000s, only now testing the Amiga and X68000 cores on my Mister FPGA ....

[versed violet]

i remember , as a kid having some mail exchanges back in the days (early 80s) with someone in Poland regarding tapes games for my Vic20 in the South of France.
we were exchanging a game list by mail, selecting the one we wanted, and sending the tapes by mail to the other kid across the iron curtain

[brisk ice]

(AND NOT THE ATARI!!! Just kidding, the atari is shit)

[mortal mist]

Unfortunately at that time PC was rather out of reach , we were very backward technologically , new technologies always came to us later , that's why Amiga reigned supreme in our country for a long time. Of course small models , large Amiga was rather for TV studios (A3000, 4000).

my friend had a 486 , I could catch up a bit 🙂

[naive perch]

all good i figured it out !

[naive perch]

never had the real hardware but the m30 is so good, only need the right screwdriver to fix the R button T_T

[balmy prawn]

iFixIt Mako driver kit is your friend

https://www.ifixit.com/products/mako-driver-kit-64-precision-bits
@naive perch

[mortal mist]

https://github.com/XProger/OpenLara/releases/download/latest/OpenLara_32x.zip

Tomb Raider on 32x 🙂

[rancid adder]

Do you have the white or black version of the m30?

[rancid adder]

Guys. The hi-Saturn rom 1.01 or 1.02 is the way to go?

[mortal mist]

It's your choice , any bios from the list works ok , I use free region jap 1.01

[rancid adder]

Thanks. Did not see this list. Bubble symphony does have no sound with hi-Saturn 1.01

[mortal mist]

sdram 2.9/3.0

?

[rancid adder]

Oh it’s from Antonio. Good question. Let me check

[mortal mist]

If you have a ram with 4 chips it is not supported

[mortal mist]

yeah

sorry 😦

[rancid adder]

Fuck

[mortal mist]

This is a non-standard design and will not work well with the saturn

[rancid adder]

Damn it. Then I am fucked up with that mister setup.

Thanks for the information.

Will have to wait for mars fpga then I guess

[mortal mist]

it only matters with Saturn, at least at the moment

it's probably not so bad, you can always buy a new sdram , it will come out cheaper than MARS , which by the way is not there yet 😉

[burnt matrix]

@rancid adder unfortunately that ram was built out of spec

Try reaching out to the vendor to see what they can do for you

128mb of ram is cheap. I wouldn’t purchase a brand new setup or wait for one when it costs well over 11 times what you would pay for ram now to enjoy Saturn.

[rancid adder]

Thanks Guys. Don’t think other RAM will fit in his setups

Is it even possible to rum saturn with Single RAM or is this another dead end then.

[mortal mist]

Core works fine with single RAM

[jagged quartz]

I had the same issue as you with ram from Antonia vilenna. I have his mister plus USB kit, and the ram is designed specifically to fit. However, I ordered new 128 mb ram sticks from mister add-ons, and while it's a little concerning I was able to get it to fit. It sits slightly cock eyed, and I won't condone it, but there is still hope if you don't want to get a new kit. Saturn is INFINITELY more stable with this ram.

[versed violet]

I have also such Antonio stack, and ordered from him (his site) a new 2 ships version 2.9 RAM reversed to fit his specific stack (normal SDRAMs are facing the other way). Since then my Saturn core works perfectly !

[rancid adder]

Thank you. Perhaps this is the only way.

[rancid adder]

Really bad that the ram I have from him is already outdated. Sucks that he went not the official way.

[pearl harbor]

As long as you understand that only the L2 and R2 buttons are unique on top of the controller, it's a fine option. The L and R buttons are the same as the C and Z buttons.

[stiff patrol]

its not outdated. He went off and made his own design which is incompatible#

it held together until the saturn began pushing the ram hard

[trim nimbus]

interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4PmZSxvGRQ

I’ll need to try that after work

[indigo lotus]

Hey guys, Shining the Holy ark, does it work?

[stiff patrol]

#1046941029296779344 message

[burnt matrix]

Did you know that an anagram of Sega Saturn is “anus grates”??

( 👁‿👁 )

[trim nimbus]

Great Susan!

[mortal mist]

Unfortunately not ☹️

[pearl harbor]

If you think about it, Sega Saturn is an anagram of itself! Just swap the S's!

[stiff patrol]

its also Nuts ar Sega

[silk mauve]

I agree, Sega ar nuts.

[stiff patrol]

or Nuts are gas

[jolly reef]

confirmed working in core. p tight.

[unique coyote]

YEP, THEY SURE ARE!

[rancid adder]

This is really bad.

[naive perch]

black also thanks @balmy prawn

[hearty carbon]

sounds like a reddit group for people who have Sonic the Hedgehog on their AR-15's

[rancid adder]

I Wonder of the white Version has the same low input lag es the Black Version. Can anyone confirm?

[naive perch]

it should be the same hardware i dont see why the company would neglect the controllers best feature on a recolour

[light magnet]

If you're buying the same version of the controller besides color, there's no reason input lag should be different. I know 2.4g and Bluetooth controllers of the same type usually have different latency over wired though.

[rough magnet]

Hm, my black M30 is a bit older and it has micro-USB while my newish white one has USB-C. I assume the latency is still the same though.

[light magnet]

Those are the difference between 2.4Ghz and Bluetooth. Wired latency can vary extremely slightly if the PCB is different.

In fact, our pal Porkchop Express has tested them, and the 2.4GHz model is 1ms versus the Bluetooth model at 5ms.

https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency

Over wired

[naive perch]

should be the same, buuuuut thank you for letting me know the new one is USB-C now thats enough reason for me to buy that one too

[pearl harbor]

The black ones are also USB-C. I bought one a few years ago and it's USB-C. I then bought one of the newer white ones when it released last year, and just assumed they were always USB-C!

[strong zephyr]

Hmm that is a very interesting detail. I have a hori commander for ps4 and one for switch with similar layout and there you also have to choose how the 4 top buttons behave. But i can set it up as described in my post. Will do some extra checking.

[mortal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/sega-saturn-saturn-sega-saturn-logo-logo-saturn-logo-gif-10487423440833711949

[balmy prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/sega-saturn-sega-sega-saturn-commercial-commercial-gif-25594657

[rancid adder]

Well sad truth is that not all the same or basically same products there have the same Interieur. So you Never really know

[rancid adder]

I have three Black and none has usb c

[naive perch]

if you feels it;s gonna be an issue with you, just stick on the old ones

usb-c for most is big, but if u don't care it's fine as it is

[lucid needle]

I’m getting no sound on Sega Ages Afterburner. Is that as expected right now?

[stiff patrol]

depends on your ram

2 chip 2.9 and 3.0 give the best compatability and sound

[ancient surge]

SEGA AGES After Burner is pretty wonky at the moment.

One of the games sensitive to RAM timings, and even if it works there are obvious problems.

This applies to both the independent Japanese release and the SEGA AGES Vol. 1 bundle.

[pearl harbor]

They are now though, as of several years ago. I've had mine for like 3 years or so.

[pearl harbor]

Yes, the game currently does not have audio. Even with 2.9 ram.

[warm mica]

Saturn Reflex adapter back in stock

https://misteraddons.com/products/hdmi-controller-adapters?variant=39583021170821&utm_source=swym-Watchlist&utm_medium=email&utm_term=backinstock&utm_campaign=backinstock&smid=61b44aa2-e3bb-4792-9e65-0098af5cf0e0&variant=39583021170821&empi=6612372193413&epi=39583021170821

[pearl harbor]

Just checked my old orders on Amazon to see when I actually bought that old black M30 controller with the USB-C port, and yeah it was way back in 2021. So at least as of back then, they are USB-C.

[burnt matrix]

I got the Genesis Mini version

I am the real 8BitDo M30 fan

[rancid adder]

Bought the ones I have probably end of 2020. But tue usb is not my Problem. Just wonder if anyone has tested the white version for Real input lag.

[plush jetty]

If you check a site that’s into cd and romance, you can find it already patched

[mortal mist]

I think he has already dealt with it 🙂

[tall radish]

that stinks. Prolly did that so you had to buy adapters again from there. There should be an option in the core for each snac adapter then.

[sick python]

How do you mean?

[tall radish]

says you can't use your bliss adapters that you all ready own. have to use a new pin out and rebuy them if you want to use open source snac.

[sick python]

Bliss and Snac are different things

[tall radish]

so we should have an option in each core, Snac/bliss Snac/newpinout

[warm mica]

@tall radish fortunately I never had any Bliss adapters. I got the Reflex

[tall radish]

if your going to copy it, at least copy it properly. I really just wanted it for transfer pak on n64 I guess. Maybe I should build one for that. See how mars handles it. with those front side adapters.

I was going to get a snax64, but now I wonder if my n64 adapters would work with it either.

[stiff patrol]

bliss ist supported by Mister

Snac is

Mr Addons simply has a different style of Snac

the actual connection to the mister is the same

just a different adaptor is required for the SNAC

[tall radish]

yeah I think we all knew all ready. Thanks though.

[stiff patrol]

but you are making out He is doiung something evil

[tall radish]

I didn't say evil. All companies do it.

[stiff patrol]

its just his adaptor uses these HDMI connectors

[tall radish]

maybe you're not understanding..

[stiff patrol]

HDMI snac has been around since the start

[tall radish]

right as a copy of bliss

[stiff patrol]

no as HDMI snac

that just happened to be Bliss compatible

[tall radish]

then he makes SNAC work with a different pin out to get cable sales. I mean it's obvious.

[stiff patrol]

because he also uses the same cables for the Reflex

[thorn pagoda]

afaik the pinout is actually the same on everything except PSX

[stiff patrol]

you buy the cable once and get Snac and Reflex

[tall radish]

see this is more constructive. Do you know if the n64 ones are as well? If not I'll be asking for files or if anyone makes a huge PCB order and is selling parts.

[thorn pagoda]

not sure about n64

[tall radish]

I was going to get one. but that psx adapter thing has me worried.

[stiff patrol]

PSX SNAC ADAPTER REQUIRES SNAX. PSX BLISS ADAPTERS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH SNAX. is on his page

[thorn pagoda]

afaik psx had to be changed because what bliss supports is really ps2 pads that don't have the extra irq line for justifier lightguns

[tall radish]

you don't say, oh wait, no you did!

[stiff patrol]

You seem very combative with someone trying to help

[tall radish]

your not trying to help, freddo is.

no offence bro

[stiff patrol]

I am explaining that there cant be an option in the core to differentiate which Snac you have

[tall radish]

see that's what i wanted to know. That's awesome. There is a reason for it.

[thorn pagoda]

porkchops way too busy designing stuff he has to make to be making up extra things for no reason 😄

[tall radish]

well the reason would be for adapter sales.

If the original bliss adapters didn't map all 19 pins and he needed those. That would be logical. I guess I can open one and find out.

[stiff patrol]

https://misteraddons.com/products/copy-of-mister-fpga-serial-native-accessory-converter-snax64-coming-soon

is his snax64

for 4 player N64

[naive whale]

https://youtu.be/vgu0F4N_WqM

thanks for the heads up @pearl harbor

[mighty zephyr]

Thanks for the video I will watch this in 5 minutes

[naive whale]

thank @pearl harbor he dm'd me about it. I totally missed this one...but I do love me some Bomberman!

[mighty zephyr]

Cheers @pearl harbor I love Bomberman too, I think the first time I played one was Super Bomberman on the snes that was fun.

[sharp dove]

Really surprising to discover this, makes me wish we had something like this during Hidden Palace's New Years (they showed Sonic Heroes on PS2 instead)

[pearl harbor]

Watching it now! 🤘

[dim tulip]

This will probably seem like a silly question, I’m looking to update my 2.5 ram module to 3.0 to fix audio issues for the saturn. I have the IO board, if I move the 2.5 module to the second ram slot for a dual ram setup will that cause any issues? Or will I need to eventually get a second 3.0 ram module?

[tall radish]

Depends on how the core, and possibly even the game, handles talking to the memory. I would say try it. Unless you're worried about paying shipping a second time for another module if it doesn't work, just buy both now. you need it for total carnage and smash anyway.

[dim tulip]

Yeah I think I will go with just getting the 1 now. From what I’ve gathered it’s more about the bandwidth for when it is needed so buying 2 would be kinda superfluous as of now, but hopefully there aren’t any issues that I encounter

[tall radish]

plus many report using a 32mb module is enough for that bandwith. Those have to be old rev.

[lusty rapids]

I have the IO board
which one? Because if it's Analog I/O (with the VGA port on the back) then you don't have the "second ram slot"

If it is Digital then you're good there, but also dual ram isn't really necessary for much of anything. The regular build of this core is the single ram one anyway

[dim tulip]

Sorry, I was typing in autopilot and thought I wrote digital. I actually own both but I meant in reference to my digital board. And I know they aren’t necessarily needed, it was more me wondering if I use the extra 2.5 ram if it would create any issues with the 3.0 I was buying.

[lusty rapids]

the second ram has no real effect on the first ram, and doesn't do anything at all if using a core that isn't made to use the second ram (i.e. most cores)

so yeah, the 2.5 probably wouldn't do anything. Issues may only show up in cores that utilize the second slot but I don't think that'll happen as long as the 2.5 still tests well

[dim tulip]

Alright awesome. Thank you for the info! Was just worried that it would cause some damage/issues. If anything ever comes up in the future I can always get another.

[warm mica]

@naive whale That Bomberman SS looks great. I got the Reflex Saturn adapter on order so looking forward to playing that with my analog controller

[naive whale]

Enjoy it. It’s fun to see a Bomberman prototype appear

[warm mica]

@naive whale yea that and the Symphony of the Night Ultimate Edition

[quick sorrel]

What version of the game is supposed to be used for the patch for Bomberman SS?

[versed solar]

The Sotn ultimate edition on Mister was kind of stuttery when I tried it the other day. Anyone know if that is typical for the game on Saturn or the core still being a WIP?

[sick python]

Website says:Original file: Saturn Bomberman (Japan) (Track 01).bin

[quick sorrel]

So that's the original Saturn Bomberman release then?

(I thought it was based off that demo disc)

[sick python]

Latest Japanese release

[quick sorrel]

So that would be the SataKore one then?

[quick sorrel]

Could be. I've yet to try it though, you could compare it on Mednafen.

[pearl harbor]

That's normal for the Saturn version. The Ultimate patch fixes a lot of things, but performance isn't really one of them.

[quick sorrel]

I just tried the Meduza 1.0 version and it seems to run like the Saturn version does to me. No complaints here.

Maybe my bin/cue to chd method isn't good but the Bomberman SS did not like me making a CHD out of it... corrupt GFX everywhere

[balmy prawn]

Your bin+cue to chd method should be using chdman and a .bat file and nothing else

If you are using other tools I can't say what may be happening to your chds that would cause issues or not

[quick sorrel]

I used chdman with the bat as usual. My first rip of the game was a single bin/cue. I tried the patch on a multiple bin of the game and it worked.

[rancid adder]

Does anyone have a decent shop Adress in Europe which sells the ram that works fine with the Saturn core?

[stiff patrol]

https://ultimatemister.com/product/xs-d128/

[small gust]

What are the characteristics of incompatible RAM modules on the saturn core?, does it result in crashes?

I myself bought this back in november last year, when I build my MiSTer. Which I believe is the same module, but I haven't actually played the saturn core much at all so far.
https://misterfpga.co.uk/product/mister-sdram-128mb-module/

[mortal mist]

sdram v2.4/2.5 there are problems with audio , mostly music stops working

sdram 2.9/3.0 works fine

core is still a WIP

[small gust]

I see.

[mortal mist]

Even having sdram 2.9/3.0 there are problems with too quiet music, sound effects are sometimes missing , there are some crackles

[small gust]

Yes, the core still being WIP is one of the main reason I haven't tested it as much yet. Just tested some Fighters Megamix or it might have been Fighting Vipers, which sometimes experienced immence slowdowns.
Booted up Grandia aswell, patched with the recent english translation. But, it still seemed to be running a little slow as well. So I thought I would wait until it is further developed.

So glad to hear about the recent news that the developer is safe.

[mortal mist]

there are a lot of games that work ok 🙂

I'm having a lot of fun already

[rancid adder]

Oh ok. Would this work better with dual ram?

[mortal mist]

no , works same

core is WIP

[rancid adder]

The newest version of the core basically made my ram useless. So that’s why I asked before jumping on buying new one.

Some games were ok. Like virtua racing. Sound good. Now even the grafics are fucked up

[mortal mist]

You cannot hold a grudge against the core author, he is using the official sdram.

for the core to work with a single sdram, certain conditions must be met. I have already pasted here the author's answer about the 4C memory

If I were to create a memory with, let say with 6 chips and the new core that is being created did not work with it, I could have no complaints.

[burnt matrix]

The core is incomplete, things will break as they get better. That’s normal part of development.

The four chip ram was only sold by one person and it was out of spec and not official.

[mortal mist]

it should be pinned 🙂

[burnt matrix]

Good call, just did

[mortal mist]

thanks

useful if someone asks about the 4C again 😄

[trim nimbus]

Should also pin something like:

If you experience consistent audio issues, such as audio drop outs, it is a sign of memory issues. If you do not know the type of memory your mister uses, you will need to disassemble the unit to verify your memory is within specification.

Since some of the questions were from people who just ordered the mister as a turnkey solution.

Granted, for some reason I can’t figure out how to view pins from the mobile client so maybe it already is

[burnt matrix]

lol neither can I, at least on these topic channels

[balmy prawn]

In the new UI, tap the top where the channel name is, then tap on the settings icon, then tap on pins

It's super intuitive and makes so much sense. How could you not know?

🙃

[frail token]

there's a pins tab in the channel menu

removes one step anyway lol

[balmy prawn]

Where

[silk mauve]

Upper right of the chat area

[balmy prawn]

Not for me

[silk mauve]

On mobile it's really dumb

Click on the name of the room at the top > then click on Settings > Then you can see pinned messages

[balmy prawn]

Mobile is what we're talking about in the first place

[silk mauve]

My fault!

[balmy prawn]

And I already have those instructions to the other guy 😂

[frail token]

oh I see

[silk mauve]

Hey, I just got here. Glad I could help! 💪

[frail token]

it's because this is a... forum? Thread? Whatever lol

[balmy prawn]

Lol

[frail token]

The normal channels show it in their tab

What is this a forum post

[silk mauve]

Yeah, a topic within a forum section

[frail token]

cause Discord is dumb those don't get treated the same

Normally there's that pins tab at the top

the best part is that it still supports pins but they don't have the tab lmao

[silk mauve]

I'm caught up. You only mentioned the new UI, not mobile 🤪

[frail token]

I'm starting to get why everyone hates the new version

it's infuriatingly slow

[loud plinth]

Swipe left for pins

[balmy prawn]

nope

swipe left is how you reply to a message

you can't swipe left to bring out the side menu anymore

[loud plinth]

Oh there's an update?

[balmy prawn]

now you have to tap on the top where the channel name is to get user list

[loud plinth]

I'm still swipe left

[balmy prawn]

yes. if you are still on mobile app version 109.xx I think you still have the previous UI

[loud plinth]

No wonder nobody reads the pins

[burnt matrix]

It's in Settings???

[balmy prawn]

my tablet is still running 209.xx lol

but my phone uses new 210.xx

I could downgrade it back (cuz I have Android so all I gotta do is get the APK) but I told myself I need to just get used to it sooner rather than later cuz it's not like it's gonna get changed back

[frail token]

For forum posts/comments/whatever yes lol

[trim nimbus]

It is funny how you can almost make a mathematical formula for any UI: Lim Time -> infinity Usability = 0

Some designer somewhere decided that seeing too many icons was confusing and unintuitive, so they decided they need to make groupings of icons to hold sub grouping of icons to hide those extra buttons that fill their users with so much existential dread

granted, these are also the brilliant designers who decided that a “chat room” can have unlimited users, but a “forum post” can only have 1000 contributors

[serene thunder]

🤔

[craggy chasm]

i have sdram xs v2.2 🙃

[mortal mist]

unfortunately 32mb is not enough for Saturn 😉

[craggy chasm]

It is v2.2 of 128mb

lol, forget it, I forgot that was the one I had before haha

is v2.5 sdram xs-d

[tall radish]

Maybe Pramod should try this trick on the Midway core.

[mortal mist]

I don't know much about it , but Midway y-unit already uses two sdram. Srg320 did it this way to make core work with one core. If core saturn was only to work with two sdram there would be no need to do it this way. I don't know if this is the solution for Y unit.

[tall radish]

It could as pramod said even with 2 sdram there is not enough bandwidth.

[kind bough]

You can avoid the awful new UI (for now: 210.10)
Settings | appearance | show new layout

[rancid adder]

No grudge. Just wondered if that happened. That’s all

[marble laurel]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Saturn_MiSTer/commits/main/

updates 🙂

[rancid adder]

Oh some fixes

[ripe valley]

Some really interesting fixes.

Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter
X-Men vs. Street Fighter
Shining the Holy Ark
Linkle Liver Story
Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus >> Salamander 2
Digital Pinball - Necronomicon

[hearty carbon]

I don't know what Digital Pinball - Necronomicon is but it sounds rad.

[ancient surge]

Oh does Shining The Holy Ark boot now?

[mighty zephyr]

@naive whale new video coming?

[burnt matrix]

Did he fix Linkle Liver Story’s biggest flaw

THE NAME

what’s a linkle liver? That’s like a dark ages era disease.

“Oi guv caught da linkle liver”

[ancient surge]

It's actually a game about the dangers of alcohol addiction, so the name is fitting.

[burnt matrix]

“Poor guy, he should’ve played Alundra”

I’m actually excited to play it lol

Don’t hate me

[undone oyster]

Is it in update_all or waiting for unstable nightlies to light up?

[naive whale]

oh new core?

[ancient surge]

There are changes to VDP1, so I want to test some games I know have graphical problems.

[burnt matrix]

No sleep for Veedeo Gaems Erotica

[naive whale]

is update_all grabbing it now?

[burnt matrix]

how bout you tell us tough guy

[naive whale]

I see the commit was 55 min ago so not sure if built yet

[kindred peak]

Is that a Patreon tier? How much?

"Let's just listen to me breathing heavily for 45 seconds and we'll be right back."

[naive whale]

someone @ me when the core is done being built 🙂

[light magnet]

Oh this is cool... Just added a bunch of Saturn games recently.

[burnt matrix]

I love Saturn

[light magnet]

I need to try those F3 ports.

[burnt matrix]

F3 ports?

[light magnet]

Galactic Attack, Bubble Symphony, Darius Gaiden, etc.

[burnt matrix]

Saturn can do no wrong!

[light magnet]

Nope, if we are talking 2D games, it's basically the successor to X68000.

I want to check how well these run on the core though.

[light magnet]

Made you look.

[ancient fractal]

The F3 ports I’ve tried all run great

[naive whale]

well I added some stuff to my MiSTer. Now just gotta wait for a core

[undone oyster]

both builds are in unstable nightlies now

[willow siren]

The note on "fix system date", that's not RTC in general is it?

[willow pawn]

I think it is

[naive whale]

gonna capture in a min

[pearl harbor]

Oh snaaaaaaap!! Is it really Sega Saturnday!?

And some seriously great updates if I'm reading some of the posts above correctly.

[naive whale]

ill be checking very soon

ill update as I go along

[undone oyster]

Shining The Holy Ark is booting

First time ever for me 🙂

[light magnet]

Can someone tell me why US bios versions have a different startup sound than physical US consoles btw?

[pearl harbor]

I remember it used to boot for me a long time ago on earlier builds, but at some point I think last year, newers builds broke it.

[naive whale]

Yes I have shown it before...long time ago

it did work at one ppint

point*

[undone oyster]

Yeah, for me back then when the RAM issue was a thing it would hang on now loading for me but now it goes in game just fine

[pearl harbor]

Can't wait to test it out in a bit. That game is 🔥 !

And apparently Salamander 2 is working now as well!?

[naive whale]

testing now

X Men vs SF first

Crashed in character select. Better graphics...retesting now

got past it...mash if you get stuck

lol and crashes at FIGHT

[balmy prawn]

perhaps true for 210 but I'm on 212 now, and even when I was back on 210 I'm pretty sure that option still was removed because the option to try the new layout should have been something that was in 209 but it was forced in 210 (at least for me)

[next bronze]

I was thinking HULK MASH!!!!!, but that's MSH vs SF.

[naive whale]

yeah it hangs when a match starts

if someone else gets further in X Men vs SF lmk. Shining the Holy Ark next

[ancient surge]

Does Super Tempo boot?

[naive whale]

color issues are all fixed though

[analog totem]

yay, Saturn core updated just as I’m almost done curating my roms and converting to CHD

[naive whale]

Shining working fine so far

[naive whale]

Nice. I will hit that up next

shining intro is so long

Salamander 2 now

when someone else tests X Men vs SF lmk if you get freezes too

please

[stiff patrol]

on mine it works flawlessly on my Tier 99 Patreon core

[balmy prawn]

which version?

cuz there's three

[naive whale]

trying Marvel vs SF now. Salamander 2 was great

forgot how hard Salamander 2 can be

[balmy prawn]

not sure if there even is a difference other than just the number on the disc, but still, making sure we are all testing the same dump probably helps

I'm gonna go with 3M personally to test right now

[naive whale]

I had 1M

Marvel vs SF is good so far. On to Round 2

[stiff patrol]

Broken on all 3 Japanese Versions on dual core Hi Hitachi 1.2 RF bios

[balmy prawn]

LOL