Sony PlayStation

[ivory verge]

It has absolutely no effect on this error, just like slowing down the GPU or use turbo for cpu

I suspect this has to do with the display of a moving background, specifically clouds. The skull displays correctly in the normal castle, where there’s a different effect (fog)

[abstract drift]

i dont think the gpu toggle in the core actually toggles the speed behavior

just the color depth thing?

[ivory verge]

yes

[abstract drift]

(which is fine by me do not confuse that for a feature request) but it means we cant really check for behavioral differences like that

you still need two real consoles, one the rarer/older variety

[ivory verge]

The GPU slowdown option is enough

You might even trigger some bugs, like in Jet Moto 3

when gpu slowdown is off it;s act like Rev A/B

For Castlevania I also tried various options in the emulator to see what triggers this bug, but it's just part of the game and no option will change that

i have PS1 scph-1000 and 1002

[ivory verge]

It's just a fun fact, but I like things like that 🙂

https://problemkaputt.de/psxspx-gpu-versions.htm

[upper forge]

https://problemkaputt.de/psxspx-gpu-versions.htm < "I am homeless in Hamburg, please help me out!" 😭

[ivory verge]

I'm embarrassed to admit it, but this is my first time playing this game

Looks great

[proven seal]

i wonder if the undub hack for this game works on the core? i recall it crashing on xstation

[tacit fox]

Wondering if he’s still around? Last update is really from 2022? Couldn’t find his Patreon account

Found it

[timber flint]

What game is this?

[proven seal]

valkyrie profile

[timber flint]

Ah nice. Never played it either but heard it was a great game

[clear rock]

You're telling me if I enable GPU slowdown I can play Jet Moto 33 on my MiSTer?

[upper forge]

is there a 30fps patch for Jet Rider 1 and 2?

I know they released a Jet Moto 2 Championship Edition which ran at 30fps with less opponents on track, it was also a mistaken beta version apparently.

[ivory verge]

Yesterday when I was playing jet moto 3 and turned on the turbo I couldn't drive the jet, it was too fast🤣

20 fps is better haha

[silk gust]

When setting on high, the dialogues get skipped, which is not so important, but wanted to report XD XD

[mortal oracle]

Great game

[ivory verge]

Well... maybe it's better that those dialogues are skipped .... 🤣

[silk gust]

100%. These talks about outfits and who you wanne kiss at the summer party are sooo 2000er tv show, it's insane XD XD

[ivory verge]

https://youtu.be/71idVBY7HDQ?is=zqYxj74UxyR3nmbD

[silk gust]

I believe he just not got the message of the game ^^

[dense wharf]

MEET THE BOYS! MEET THE BOYS!!!

[upper forge]

Wasn't Jet Moto 3 always 30fps, It wasn't made by SingleTrac like the first two

[ivory verge]

I don't know, but I saw the FPS counter. It definitely wasn't 30fps

20fps most time

19-25fps

[upper forge]

Play time attack.

[ivory verge]

There are places where it runs at 30 fps for a while

nah , with turbo high is 30fps rock solid

I don't mind frame rate drops; they used to be the norm in games

[upper forge]

https://cdn2.steamgriddb.com/logo/159fc828e19e4254678e7827f5a310fe.png

[silk gust]

How about link cable function with 2 Misters ^^.

I was just curious about the 4Player Mode in Ridge Racer Type4 and yes, it's there when you have 2 PS1, 2 Games, 4 Controllers, 2 screens (34"+ recommended) and the cable

Sorry for the bad quality aas in a hurry

[ivory verge]

First, someone has to implement it in core

A few people have asked about this, but so far no one has stepped up to learn how to do it and then actually do it. The matter is still open.

[silk gust]

At least there is a reason to keep the consoles.
I rarely use them anymore.
The benefits of the psx core are just too good.

[ivory verge]

yes, I only use the console to compare with the core when necessary

[upper forge]

I think the best option is probably going to be a low latency wireless connection.

maybe @manic citrus looked into this in the past or am I thinking about someone else?

[manic citrus]

not me. that feature requires people have friends and I know that's a lie

[silent bridge]

Nevahmynd just saw it below

[red lodge]

Amazing. Thank you for taking the time to confirm this.

[tacit fox]

MiSTer wins again!

[serene nebula]

I don’t think I can handle this level of winning, it’s too much!

[clear rock]

Well, if you want to start losing try playing NES Battletoads in co-op

[tacit fox]

Or maybe getting an Analogue Pocket and try playing some Saturn on it

[rose ermine]

What happens in battletoads when you play co-op?

[clear rock]

You can't beat level 11 because of a bug, that is, if you even can make it to level 11 in co-op since the game had friendly fire and if one person gets a game over you both get a game over, and continuing only causes the person who died to get their lives/life refreshed, the other keeps the amount they had... which likely means you are going to game over again soon when that person dies.

At least in the NTSC version, I think that level 11 bug might have been fixed in the PAL version

[rose ermine]

Oh right, thought you meant a core bug. Does that still count as winning for mister?

[clear rock]

I guess? I mean, it's not like that was some rare hard to do thing like the pacman single pixel bug that emulators did not do correctly for years

[tacit fox]

MiSTer wins again

[sinful bloom]

what is this wacky video mode?

I don't think I've seen a PS1 game with vertically stretched pixels like that

[tulip moat]

I know the Crash and Spyro games do something similar, though not to that extent.

Someone on the dev team must of really hated aliasing.

[mortal oracle]

You might say they were anti- aliasing

[sinful bloom]

also the game (Clock Tower (2)) seems to work pretty okay with 16:9 hack

gonna play further and see if it breaks anything

[knotty dune]

Hi all! Is this controller working with the core?

https://www.ebay.it/itm/317656479466?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=724-128315-5854-1&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=317656479466&targetid=2313342993766&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9218558&poi=&campaignid=23214840700&mkgroupid=190935671674&rlsatarget=pla-2313342993766&abcId=10498171&merchantid=6772416&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23214840700&gbraid=0AAAABBwAPiZu7jKHrAStbQ5vJe-cbKGpp&gclid=CjwKCAjwvqjOBhAGEiwAngeQnQi3XBBt_aDcNIDWvRWS9yhh9N4OWma9DcBI5u_fd5uMZJU1txKAaRoCWaEQAvD_BwE

[chilly kraken]

it's always trains

[dawn axle]

train perverts stay winning

[somber steppe]

Train perverts win again!

[proven seal]

always the trains with this guy

[spark ermine]

Does Robby have one of those controllers?

[somber steppe]

I doubt it, that's probably the reason he is too ashamed to answer the question.

[deft sphinx]

I am pretty sure it does and @serene nebula has one

[serene nebula]

It does through SNAC, works perfectly.

However the Reflex Adapt will be getting an update soon that’ll enable that work with that converter,

[desert otter]

If it's an official peripheral and you connect it with SNAC it will work.
Trying to use a peripheral with some generic USB adapter though may yeild less that satisfactory results especially when it comes to peripherals like these that are not common/standard style controllers. (For example, a DDR pad won't work properly unless using SNAC)

SNAC is just a means to connect a perihperal to the system and have it directly connect to and interface with the core itself no differently than connecting said peripheral directly to the real original hardware. When using SNAC connectivity you cannot control the MiSTer menus since it's not interfacing with that part of the MiSTer and is only being direct connected to the core.

[abstract drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfZ-XHiDBow

sounds pretty amazing? export unity games to psx

[empty yacht]

Finally my stocks will rise

[clear rock]

Is that going to be a sequel to that PSX game where you play as a shoe?

... I just realize I mis-read stocks as socks....

🤦‍♂️

Oh comon, don't be like that.

We will be lucky if they run at Net Yaroze speeds

https://tenor.com/view/trololo-edvard-khil-hello-smile-gif-14140145

[ivory verge]

fun game 👍

[knotty dune]

Hi guys! I'm trying to read my complete PSX collection from NAS but, unlike other cores like Saturn, the connection/latency seems to be too slow because I've aleays CD slow orverlay. Sure, MiSTer is connected to NAS by ethernet on powerline but, like I've said, other cores are good. I'm using RETRONAS on VM on MacM1.

Here some data

ps: zaparoo and remote script are running in background, no wifi hardware and no set in linux, bluetooth dongle connected

[dawn axle]

If the research here is to be believed, the PSX core starts to have issues beyond 3ms of storage induced latency, and yours is averaging around 6ms https://github.com/retronas/retronas/wiki/MiSTer-FPGA#psx-core---latency-performance

Almost definitely because of powerline. Always heard it’s pretty susceptible to interference so if possible a direct Ethernet connection from mister to your router is preferred

[manic citrus]

I'm a bit dubious of those numbers, but getting spikes of 18ms isn't going to help things

[knotty dune]

Unfortunately is not currently feasible for me to wire that room..

[undone path]

Do you have coaxial cable between those rooms? MoCA adapters are cheap and far more performant than powerline.

[dawn axle]

Unfortunately there’s probably not much you can do about it. Might just need to keep ps1 games on the SD card

[knotty dune]

unfortunately not

[knotty dune]

is this problem present only for PS1 core?

[dawn axle]

Seems like it. I think the PS1 was just more sensitive to disc access latency than other CD based consoles

[clear rock]

Been considering moving my cd-based games, especially psx, to a usb drive. Just didn't want yet another dongle sticking out the mister. Wish some models of the usb board had some internal ports or something

[mortal oracle]

You can get some pretty slim USB thumb drives

[clear rock]

Yeah, but they will still not be flush, that would require me to mess with the case I store it in

Also really, it's not like I would ever want to remove my wifi dongle do I wish I could keep that one internal

(Also not financially feasable atm, my CD games would require a 512gb usb drive)

... I think

[mortal oracle]

You can get a 512GB sandisk slim thumb drive for £60 🙂

[dawn axle]

Sandisk Fit drives are about the size of a wireless usb receiver

https://a.co/d/0atFcCrm

[clear rock]

Would there be any easy way I can find the disk space all my cd games take? only way I know of is to use "ls -lh" on each folder and add them up

[dawn axle]

Ha! Beat me to it

[clear rock]

I prefer the samsung ones

[mortal oracle]

I left your link cos it was smaller 🙂

[mortal oracle]

du -hs

(on the PSX directory)

[clear rock]

du? not ls?

[mortal oracle]

yep, du

[clear rock]

but psx isn't the only disk system

[mortal oracle]

https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/du.1.html

Fine, du on each of the directories then 😅

[dawn axle]

du is what you’re looking for

[mortal oracle]

du -hsc PSX SegaCD ...

[clear rock]

Hmm, did Samsung stop making theirs? 🙁

I had had nothing but bad expirences with sandisk usb drives

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D7Q41PM

[dawn axle]

I’ve had one of those sandisk ones (an older model) as the boot drive for my server for about 7 years now and it’s ever had issues

[clear rock]

Ok, my PSX folder alone is 199GB according to DU, so I can't make do witha 256GB one

[mortal oracle]

(As long as you have a backup somewhere, it's no big deal really- aside from the inconvenience/cost of needing to replace it)

[mortal oracle]

CHD?

[clear rock]

Yup

Using the optimized settings in the pin

I keep the original bin/cue on mypc

Saturn is 61, so yeah, that's already too much for those two alone

Though my Sd card would then be too big if I switch to USB for my disk images XD

[mortal oracle]

too big
It's a sunk cost

[clear rock]

I miss when 512gb microsd cards were $40

[mortal oracle]

I probably have a 256GB that has about 4GB used, or whatever the minimum from just the rbfs is 😅

[knotty dune]

is it possible to use external usb drive with NAS (and sd of course)?

[dawn axle]

You can still get them for $40 there’s just no guarantee they’ll actually have 512gb on them

[clear rock]

😛

I was looking for a 512gb ssd the other day, they are over $100 now, they were $40 a few months ago

also really bad time for my raid to have a bad drive >.<

I had to rush to a microcenter that had the last WD Red Plus for miles

[mortal oracle]

Yep, afaik (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). MiSTer will check each of the different mount points in order as far as I know (as long as a directory is empty), so you could have your PSX ones on a USB and leave everything else on your NAS

[clear rock]

Tell me this storage nightmare will end, I've been meaning to upgrade my mister for a whiole

Originally was just going to get a 1TB card but...

[mortal oracle]

(Badly written, what I meant was to make sure there's no PSX directory on the NAS storage mounted, if you're planning on moving that to the USB drive)

[knotty dune]

ok what kind of external USB 2.0 drive it's fast enough for the core?

[mortal oracle]

For sure. MiSTer is USB 2.0 only. Spinning discs might be a bit slow, so you're better with flash or something solid state

(Just due to seek time and spinning discs going to sleep)

[knotty dune]

ok so an external sd drive it's enough?

[clear rock]

Would it have enough power for spinning disks over usb?

[digital zinc]

mechanical drives are not recommended for the PSX core

[clear rock]

I'ave had my consoles fail to power solid state usb drives before

[mortal oracle]

Probably not

I use an external SSD. It works fine, but I've heard people have power concerns about those too

[clear rock]

Damn, so I should not use my external MO disk drive for my PSX games?

[mortal oracle]

I would imagine that's fine. If you've got one lying around, give it a try 🙂

[clear rock]

Any idea if the usb adapter you use for a mister pi effects how much power cna be delieved to usb devices?

[mortal oracle]

You mean power supply?

[clear rock]

I've had brown outs from using a mt-32 pi with a recommended usb power supply, but not when I broke the reocmmendations to use one with PD

[mortal oracle]

I think you can only get something like 500mA from a USB port

which is I think why some were concerned about USB SSDs wanting more than that

[clear rock]

I think that's only with 2.0?

[mortal oracle]

MiSTer is only USB 2.0?

(That's the draw from the ports - not the power supply)

[clear rock]

I mean, the snac port isn't usb and the mt-32 pi was clearly drawing more

[mortal oracle]

Oh, sorry – yeah, can't comment about the MT-32 pi, my bad

[clear rock]

But you're right in that the usb ports would be limited to 500Ma each

Though that's still several usb ports

[mortal oracle]

Depends how much power your PSU outputs 😅

[clear rock]

The Pi's usb board has 7 usb ports and 2 power-only ports

[mortal oracle]

9*500 mA, then.. ~1.1A for the DE10?

[clear rock]

And then any other components like the analog i/o board, snac....

Though that's assuming every component draws max power, a lot of usb components I assume are lower draw, like a keyboard

... assuming it's not some insane rgb keyboard XD

[mortal oracle]

For the standard MiSTer, the recommended PSU that a lot of people use is 20W iirc

(5V 4A)

[clear rock]

(The usb ports on my keyboard are unusable, any device I plug causes them both to disconnect because too little power, it has a freaking ac adapter for if I want the already bright leds even brighter)

Isn't 3.1A generally the max for usb? Without PD at least

[mortal oracle]

[clear rock]

As in many cases, it's an issue of

https://tenor.com/view/more-power-home-improvement-tim-gif-22738460

Oh, speaking of power. Do I need to supply external power to the SNAC or something to use vibration on dualshock controllers?

[digital zinc]

no, but without an external supply the voltage will be only 5v to the rumble motors which is too low compared to the 7.5-8v they normally use, so the rumble will not be very strong.

also depends on the specific adapter and whether they've jumped the rumble power line to the 5v power from the SNAC port, or left it open to require external power.

[clear rock]

5v power from snac? I thought you needed a level shifter to use 5v hardware, which was anything not PSX or N64 controllers?

[digital zinc]

Yes the SNAC port provides 5v power on USB3 pin 1. The data pins are 3.3v. SNES specifically requires 5v on all lines I believe, hence the need for the level shifter. Whereas the PSX and N64 controllers use 3.3v on the data lines so no need for the level shifter.

[clear rock]

I see, I didn't know it still provided 5v of power.

[digital zinc]

It's how the MT32-pi can be powered only from SNAC

[clear rock]

PSX and N64 are the only SNAC devices to not need a level shifter right? IIRC the only systems the mister supports that were 3.3v were the N64, PSX and GBA, but there are no SNAC adapters for the GBA AFAIK

[mint bolt]

That's really funny because every single Samsung USB drive I've bought failed immediately

My ancient SanDisk is still trucking

[spark ermine]

I had a samsung flash drive die just last week. Flashed it with rufus for something and decided it had enough

[clear rock]

I've been using them in a system 24/7 for years and they work fine

[mint bolt]

My decades of being a computer nerd have shown that there's no such thing as a reliable brand. I swear by Western Digital drives and my brother in law would never touch one ever again

[clear rock]

Yeah, that's been my experience with hard drives. Just say for me personally I've had bad luck with SanDisk, and PNY

[mint bolt]

All my SanDisk micro SD cards have been rock solid. Of course my Samsungs have been as well

[clear rock]

Sd cards I haven't had much issues, it's USB drives that give me problems

[red lodge]

I know I'm asking a massive question, that I don't fully understand, but what would implementing something like this involve?

[north oracle]

about 80% of the time on the latest unstable, worms still freezes after a match. i was playing a bunch over the weekend with a group of buddies and id have to reset pretty much every time.

[ivory verge]

try this , and let me know

[north oracle]

ill give it a go shortly!

[north oracle]

it was successful this time! ill have to play more to get a better sample size, but this is a start. thanks for the quick fix!

[void marten]

sorry if this is a known issue, but having save issues with Brigandine Grand Edition. Seems like there's not enough space detected for the system settings and I can't save to the other save slot at all. Luckily it seems slot 1 can handle the actual gameplay save, so far.

[chilly kraken]

are you on the unstable or stable core?

oh wait, this is psx, not saturn - don't mind me

[void marten]

no worries, should be the one in update all though

[chilly kraken]

can you share your save file. should be in /media/fat/saves/psx in your SD card

[void marten]

sure let me power it up and get the ftp going, will be a few

[chilly kraken]

take your time - I won't have time to look right away, but maybe someone else will

[manic citrus]

are all your games in the top level PSX folder, or are they all in separate directories?

[void marten]

checking

/media/fat/games/PSX

[abstract drift]

it sounds like your memory card might just be full

the core gives a unique memory card per-directory so its recommended to have all your games in a folder each so they get a memory card each

[void marten]

oh really, that could be it

somehow I've never heard that

[abstract drift]

its the same for all cd-based cores on mister

yeah the fact your sav is called PSX is a dead giveaway\

[void marten]

cool, at least I know the problem. is there a workaround after the fact?

[abstract drift]

er yeah no worries, just like, sort your games into subdirs (think there's a script for it in the pins) then let it create a fresh card for the game your playing (boot it once)

then reset core, manually mount both the PSX.sav and the new .sav for your game, and in the psx bios copy over the save

[void marten]

awesome thanks, I dunno how I missed the folder deal

[abstract drift]

can't actually find the script, its a pretty easy ask for claude or whatever though

for multidisc games, put them in one folder, you want those to share a memorycard generally

[void marten]

nice will do

[chilly kraken]

isn’t that a @tacit fox script?

[tacit fox]

https://gist.github.com/bootsector/6f60d2227243e57628a7f3f76b523404 but someone already beat me to it with one oneliner lol

This one: #1046941029296779344 message

(haven't tested that oneliner though haha)

[void marten]

I had some bin/cue and this seemed to work, use at own risk lol. I put the modified .py in the scripts folder

ssh -t root@miSTerIP "sed -i 's/endswith(".chd")/endswith((".chd", ".bin", ".cue"))/g' /media/fat/Scripts/chd2folders.py && python3 /media/fat/Scripts/chd2folders.py /media/fat/games/PSX"

[river otter]

This does it too https://github.com/Natrox/MiSTer_Utils_Natrox/blob/main/scripts/psx_chd_organize.sh

[void marten]

cool ty

[river otter]

Oh actually that only moves chd files sorry

I'm actually working on updating it so that it does bin/cue and also other cores and locations besides /media/fat

[void marten]

any way to force always saving without the OSD? I keep opening the osd and it doesn't save somehow. That or I am just thinking I do. I don't care if it destroys the card quicker

[mortal oracle]

Without the OSD, no. On OSD open you’ll need to set autosave to on (and then save your settings)

[void marten]

I hope that's changed, that's actually really annoying

would be better to have redundant saves and let it slowly destroy the sd card imo

[chilly kraken]

Once you get used to it, it's fine. Honestly, every core should have autosave on by default

[void marten]

can't agree there, I'm prob gonna setup my ps2 with ps1 games so I don't have to worry about forgetting to save in some key moment to be honest

but I absolutely hate having to redo progress, prob because I don't have free time

[desert otter]

By that same effort you could just get a snac adapter and use a PS1 memory card with the core.

Then you can avoid the oddities that come with running some PS1 games on that single chip in the PS2 assuming you care about that, while also getting the bonus features of the Mister core

[void marten]

I can def try that. I don't know how I watch so much info on mister and have never heard of that either

[desert otter]

You mean SNAC? Or just never coming across someone mentioning hooking up a memory card directly?

[void marten]

never heard of someone using a real memory card with the core

I guess I should hang out in here instead of youtube

[desert otter]

Oh lol. There's a few people in here who do it. Someone even went so far as to get a modded BIOS running with the core to be able to use memcard pro

[void marten]

I'll have to look into that now, I have a memcard pro 2

[river otter]

Some of us have (or will have) PS1 shaped MiSTers with real PS1 controller and memory card ports just for this purpose 😄

[void marten]

nice

[desert otter]

Oh yeah, I'm waiting for mine

Then I'm most likely gonna sell my existing stack

I've been sitting on my Midnight/Ocean Blue PS2 controllers since forever now

[void marten]

I just have some regular black ones. None are really in perfect shape

[desert otter]

I also have regular black ones. Those are currently with my PS2. But I bought the ocean blue controllers specifically to pair with my superstition

[dark aspen]

Would it be possible to display text when a game saves? If autosave is off the text could say "Press OSD to save" and if it's on it could say "Autosaved". It would be useful in the event the game doesn't tell you when it's saving

[mortal oracle]

What PS1 game doesn’t tell you it’s saving?

[somber steppe]

The one where you forgot to save!

[manic citrus]

it turns on one of the mister leds when there is a save pending

[abstract drift]

thats such a good feature and nobody knows about it lol

[empty yacht]

Well, most have moved on to proper cases from those 6 acrylic pieces abominations

[mortal oracle]

6 piece acrylic case gang rise up!!

[abstract drift]

you can still see the LEDs on most cases cant you?

[acoustic quiver]

I wrote that. Some context, if it helps: The figures there were given to me by the PSX MiSTer core author, so I have no reason to doubt them. Not so much "research" as "taking the word of the person who wrote the thing", I guess. However...

[acoustic quiver]

These numbers are bad. I mention in the wiki there you want a maximum of 3.6ms, and these are 6+, so that's no good. Whatever network stuff is going on, it's not good enough from a latency (not bandwidth) point of view.

[serene nebula]

I would honestly get into the habit of always opening the OSD and quitting to the MiSTer main menu whenever you are done gaming for the night

[mortal oracle]

This. Just treat it like a “shutdown” process

[chilly kraken]

I’m not saying it’s a great process. I’m not saying it’s the right process. But, truly, once you get used to it, it’s fine.

just make a habit of always rebooting the menu core

[serene nebula]

It’s the great and right process because there’s no other alternative lol

So uhhh, you either do that or continue to lose your saves.

[chilly kraken]

it's neither great or right, but you can get used to doing it

[austere otter]

Obviously its the right process if its the only process, lol

[empty yacht]

But right process can be not optimal

[mortal oracle]

It’s honestly not that big a deal imo

I lost my save precisely once - the first time I ever played, because I didn’t know about the saving behaviour. I’ll never really understand the complaints

[somber steppe]

I lost about 3h of breath of fire on the first day I got my mister. But honestly it's not a big deal, I have the habit of going to the main menu before turning the mister off and if I'm uncertain that I did that I just hit the osd button on the mister before turning it off.

[chilly kraken]

You know it's the right process when folks talk about it like they are in an abusive relationship

[serene nebula]

Yeah but you’re not optimal and we still keep you around!

gottem.ini

[empty yacht]

daring words from the mod equivalent of a participation trophy

[serene nebula]

Trophy is real to me! 🏆

[desert otter]

6 pieces? ya'll are living way to luxurious

I've only got 2

[somber steppe]

Aluminum!

[dark aspen]

It has a sneezeguard, like a cafeteria

[desert otter]

I opted for this because of a couple reasons.
#1: it was cheaper than buying misteraddons USB board to then not be able to buy his metal case cuz it's never in stock (cuz I have his analog pro board).
#2: I like the see through blue aesthetic.

only way to get any kind of other case would be 3D printing and that requires having a 3D printer and the time and patience to model something with the necessary cutouts for my stack

But I think it looks pretty neat at the end of the day being a semi naked stack with a touch of transparent blue acrylic on it.

[cloud vault]

Odd I cannot get it to work via snac. Arcade Stick and Pad work just fine. The Densha controller works on OG hardware and on Mister via a PSX 2 Usb adapter. Am I doing something wrong on the snac end?

[prisma skiff]

Oh! Will this hit update all soon? I can play Worms Armageddon on an old version of the core, but not the latest one. Worms World Party works fine, but I can’t even start Armageddon.

[chilly kraken]

Will probably be a little bit. Kuba likes to be thorough

[dark aspen]

Is there a way to make the controllers "stick"?

Minor annoyance, but I hate switching the input every time I launch a game

[lilac scaffold]

the 'pad1/pad2' setting?

if you press right and 'save settings' they'll persist between core reloads

[serene nebula]

da peens

[chilly kraken]

I need an audiophile to test this core and make sure there is no audio weirdness when using vga_mode=ybpr and vga_mode=rgb

[slim trout]

Hi. I'm having freezes playing symphony of the night. Mainly but not exclusively when leaving the loading narrows. It freezes with the yellow led light up and I have to reboot the mister. I think it happens when using save states. And when it happens, I think, some save states are like lost. Is anyone else having similar issues?

[ivory verge]

I tested SotN a few days ago and didn't have any problems

[slim trout]

It's happening to me since lotta time. Did u use save states?

[ivory verge]

yes, I also use SS for testing

[slim trout]

It also happened me in, for example, rage racer... So it's not about the game 🙁

[ivory verge]

After using save state ?

Or general ?

Maybe problem with sd card ?

[slim trout]

Yes. Using save states. But maybe it also happens when not using it. Haven't tested deep without them. I'll try to test further and with other cores. Didn't remember it happening with arcade cores for example or mega drive

None of them use SD once they are loaded, so maybe it's related with the use of the SD

I think with SNES + save states it neither happened

[ivory verge]

You wrote that this has been happening for a long time, have you tried a different card and a clean install?

[slim trout]

I have another mister pi. I'll try moving the SD over there and then with a fresh install with the other SD

[ivory verge]

Are you using bin/cue or chd? And do you have good game images? (redump)

[slim trout]

I was asking to check if it is a known problem happening to more people or just me

Chd. It happened with SoN, rage racer and SoN, rondo of the night (a hack)

It's not always happening in the same point. It happens randomly

[manic citrus]

are you using faster cdrom speed setting?

[slim trout]

Normal speed. First I checked

I think it always happened when changing screen or section, so probably when loading something. Ah, one thing important. The images of the games are in a usb pend driver, not in the SD

[ivory verge]

Try load games from sd card and bin/cue

[slim trout]

The 3 chd images check with chdman and are ok. I'm gonna extract the son hack to bin/cue, copy to the SD and try

[manic citrus]

well dont' do two debugging steps at once

but I will say given that plenty of people use chd on sd card fine, it's probably the usb pen drive sucking

[slim trout]

It's a pen with an usbc at the other side. When using that port the speed is X3 faster...

I'll start with the chd on the SD and then the bin/cue if it fails

Question: can a read error freeze the whole system?

If a core crashes, does it make crash the whole system?

[ivory verge]

no

even if the core has trouble loading data and freezes, the system continues to run ok

[slim trout]

In my case the whole system is frozen. Didn't try to access via ssh when it's frozen, but the button on the mister itself (osd one) stops responding. Only reset button (for obvious reasons) is working

[shrewd pasture]

power issue?

[ivory verge]

Yeah, that's not normal behavior, even if there's a problem with one of the cores.

[slim trout]

I'm using a 5v 4a power brick

It even runned a screen powered via usb through the mister

[shrewd pasture]

yeah if it actually delivers what it says then it should be plenty

Try to run the MEMTEST in util for 15min and see what it lands on

or see if you can run the 94MHz+ N64 core with Banjo-Kazooie in attract mode for 15 min

[slim trout]

In the past it was ok for 150mhz. I'll try again. I'll try to get that core and that game (N64 stuff)

[shrewd pasture]

ok so not memory then...

[ivory verge]

Download the new version of the game (Redump), use an SD card for testing, connect the power supply directly to the de10, disconnect all USB devices that are not needed

If anything causes the system to stop responding, it's the hardware.

[feral swift]

Any specific games or sections you want to have tested? I won't be able to check on it until later in the week or the next weekend unfortunately.

[slim trout]

I've been a while playing from the SD and seems ok. Now I've left for a while in test mem. In a while I'll come back and check again running the game again but from the usb

It's a pi, no de10, but shouldn't mark a difference

[slim trout]

Ok, news... Playing from usb happened again. Ssh was possible. The the game unfrized and the music stood making noise... Then normal, then noise again. Looks related to the readings on the usb

[slim trout]

It's really strange... I'll go on testing. I'll give more time to other cores to see if it happens again and I'll try also from SD. If I discover something I'll tell 🙁

[serene nebula]

Seems like an issue with your USB stick

Try to play from sd card is possible

[ivory verge]

#1046940919607345272 message

[serene nebula]

I cannot read!!!!!

[chilly kraken]

I think the parasite eve intro, and the mgs title screen were usually the giveaways

I might have time today to test

[ivory verge]

It's case for io 9.2 ?

[chilly kraken]

yeah, stock 9.2 io over analog

I am going to try to test today

[chilly kraken]

it sounds good to me. I will PR it

[serene nebula]

Yeah, Puerto Rico it!!

[chilly kraken]

https://tenor.com/eYfo3mZRJcH.gif

[serene nebula]

I still haven’t watched that lol

[ivory verge]

The new core should now be available via update all. Worms Armageddon is working correctly again.

[scenic ledge]

Are there any improvements in comparison to the last stable core?

[ivory verge]

No , just fix for Worms Armageddon

[jovial swallow]

anybody else getting audio skips at the game select screen of symphony of the night?

[digital zinc]

Triple check your game disc image is a valid redump image, check the hash of the file against the redump data, a bad dump can cause this issue.

If you have compressed it to CHD make sure you don't use crazy compression settings, or if you're streaming the game disc over your network share make sure you're not on wifi - The PSX core is VERY sensitive to latency in reading from the disc .

Ensure you don't have fast seek enabled, it can cause this issue.
Higher CD read speeds may also cause this issue.

Also, when I say "this issue" I mean general audio delays or skipping, not something specific to symphony of the night. This is a very common issue that can occur for any of the above reasons, none of which are the cores fault.

[jovial swallow]

weird i seem to have a crc32 for the bin file extracted from the chd that matches what a QoL patch expects (different from redump's value) of acf987e8

but the md5 and md1 sums are different

i got it from a myrient chd collection

[chilly kraken]

lemme look

[digital zinc]

I would be wary of using premade chd files

[chilly kraken]

We are talking about the screen that has file select namechange file copy etc

[jovial swallow]

yes that screen

[chilly kraken]

no skipping here

[jovial swallow]

thanks for checking ill have to get new files then

my apologies for not verifying the checksums first. i trusted my set too much

[jovial swallow]

oh weird! duckstation verifies the chd as valid

[desert otter]

It is not recommended to download pre-made CHD files. Especially since more often than not they end up not being correct and have issues. Just get the bin/cue files and make your own CHD.

I can share you my chd.bat file for compression settings that work with the core if you like

[jovial swallow]

sure i'd like to try that thanks!

[jovial swallow]

hmm im still getting the audio ticks in the menu using a bin/cue i downloaded (not derived from a chd) that verifies correctly in duckstation...i guess i have to rule out sd card corruption at this point? the ticks happen in analog audio as well and with/without 96kHZ hdmi audio and with/without LPF

using default settings (i tried deleting PSX.CFG)

[chilly kraken]

which stack do you have?

and this is yesterday's core?

[jovial swallow]

DE-10 nano one with an analog I/O board from legacy pixels

[chilly kraken]

the 2 piece one?

[jovial swallow]

this is the core from update_all today. it happened in the version before too

it's the analog i/o 6.1 board from legacy pixels

[chilly kraken]

ahh ok

[jovial swallow]

im using the usb 2.1 hub on the bottom

[chilly kraken]

I was worried it was a bug with the 9.2 board (which is a known issue)

but it doesn't affect the 6.1 board

[abstract drift]

try turning on the overlay so you can see the slow-CD warning

that'll tell you if your getting slow cd accesses or if its something else entirely

[jovial swallow]

that's what i'm getting! thanks for the suggestion
I was asking claude.ai about it and it's saying my sdcard could be fragmented which makes sense as i've deleted and uploaded to the psx folder at different times. i'll just run mr fusion on it and start anew

thanks for all the troubleshooting help everyone!

[clear rock]

Also check the pins, while not necessary there are recommended settings to use when converting to CHD to make the image better work if you use fast read speeds

[jovial swallow]

just for fun i tried running the known good bin/cue of sotn over CIFS and I still get the same audio stutter and disc overlay warnings. i'll install mr fusion within the next few days and report back that it's not a software issue somewhere

[jovial swallow]

thanks i'll note that if i decide to mass convert a bunch of psx images

[ivory verge]

Works fine , no sound issues

[prisma skiff]

Just tried it at my end! Seems to work!

[manic dirge]

I've played them both recently, and the Megadrive version is extremely solid, minus the color reductions. Maybe we could eventually get a 32X port for more colors, and it could run better with less limitations. But the PSX port of Cave Story is by-far my favorite.

[serene nebula]

Get a high quality A2 rated micro sd card and you’ll not have those issues

[jovial swallow]

im using a sandisk extreme A2 512gb i got last summer

[serene nebula]

Damn nevermind

[jovial swallow]

i have a good feeling a mr fusion install fixes it. i went back to earlier builds which worked before to no avail either it's that or a very idiosyncratic issue with my setup i guess (down to the i/o board i or something strange). i should maybe try cleaning the stack and rebuilding it

[ivory verge]

If the device and the microSD card are working properly, there shouldn't be any problem reading the data (slow CD warning )

[serene nebula]

Maybe sd card is bad?

[ivory verge]

I would start by checking another card without any addons for de10

[jovial swallow]

more likely i guess? i should go with a smaller card and try some type of NAS setup for the larger libraries im thinking

if thats the issue

[serene nebula]

If it’s any help I use a micro sd with CHD and it’s been rock solid for me for several years

[jovial swallow]

although using CIFS didnt seem to cure the audio blips either

[abstract drift]

how long are the audio skips? roughly i guess

[jovial swallow]

variable and sometimes pretty slight but definitely there

with the cd speed overlay triggering

[abstract drift]

is it just like, a pop, or is there dead-air for an appreciable length of time?

[jovial swallow]

i was getting pops and blips and i think more of them on the hdmi side but ive caught them on the TV as well

shit i forgot to try removing my DAC...it's powered by USB (using the powered port)

[abstract drift]

do they happen all the time even if you're just idling in game or does it correspond with actions

[jovial swallow]

i dunno if that could affect anything

[jovial swallow]

it's consistently at the beginning and then it smoothens out

[ivory verge]

Yes, try it without any accessories, just the sd card and the DE10.

[jovial swallow]

the intro cinematic may or may not have the blip

the konami logo i mean

[abstract drift]

outside of sdcard issues, psx also changes resolutions an insane amount

the whole boot sequence, intros etc are not a good test for that reason

[jovial swallow]

the analog side should be smooth still i thought tho?

[abstract drift]

analog video and audio yes, digital audio no

[jovial swallow]

same results without the DAC plugged i see

nothing but my controller plugged in

[abstract drift]

test just standing around in game and see if thats stable

if it still happens then it rules out a bunch of stuff

[jovial swallow]

seems to loop the music fine (at the beginning part where you're richter) and the intro cinematic sounds seamless too

i got past death and let the music loop 3 times. everything is good so far. i had a save file a few weeks ago and it was playing fine (although i may have skipped ahead through the menu and failed to hear the blips then). i had about 3 or 4 hours of play with no issues

[abstract drift]

if its solid when you're not doing anything then the problem could be related to videomode changes

your mister.ini isn't unusually long or complicated for some reason is it?

[desert otter]

@jovial swallow here's my bat file. Please note that this one is set up for batch conversions where you put all your bin+cue files into a folder called "cue" and also have a folder called "chd" next to it that it will then output everything into.
It's also recursive, so if you are downloading bin+cue via rar archives or something and they all extract to their own folders it will find them regardless and create a new folder in the chd folder titled after each file. unfortunately it will also make individual folders for each bin+cue of games that have multiple discs so you will need to manually go through and consolidate those but that shouldn't take more than a minute since there's not many games out there that are multi disc.

Just edit the path for where your chdman exe is in the bat file and you should be good to go. can change what the folders are called too if you care.

[dark aspen]

The script I use (assumes CHD is in the current directory. You can just manually delete your bins and cues afterwards)

@echo off
for /r %%i in (*.cue) do chdman createcd -c cdzs,cdfl -hs 9792 -i "%%i" -o "%%~ni.chd"
pause

[ivory verge]

I played SotN (US) for almost 4 hours today and didn't have any issues with the music, crashes, or save states. Everything works perfectly.

[clear rock]

If you can move the data somewhere else temporarely, I would partition and reformat the card as a single large partition then use a tool like h2testw to make sure it's not a bootleg and storing all data properly

[clear rock]

If It helps I made a bat file that goes through every subfolder of the folder it's in converting bin/cue to chd with the pinned settings, putting the chd in the subfolder, and then deletes the original bin/cue

Or is that not what they're trying to do?

[dark aspen]

It's always worth submitting multiple CHD scripts. Someone might find one that does the closest to what they like

[clear rock]

Ok, though I did use some AI to help write it if that matters to anyone here. This checks every subfolder, converts any cue file it finds to chd in that same subfolder, deletes the bin/cue (one small bug, if your images as in some other format like iso/wav it will fail to delete the originals) and even report if it encountered any errors. I actually found a few cue files with typos in them whebn using this script to mass-convert.

[manic dirge]

Does anyone have any kind of BIN/CUE builder for playback of .STR files? I have the .STR file I need, but am running into issues trying to make a BIN/CUE file that will play the .STR file. I tried a program called "pimp", but the version of BUILDCD it comes with is 16-bit and won't work on 64-bit Windows. It seemed like the only promising lead. I found a .ISO file with a short clip from "F.R.I.E.N.D.S." on it, which plays just fine.

But when I replaced the FRIENDS.STR with my own .STR file, it won't play, even when the same name is kept, so I don't know what's going on there.

[jovial swallow]

im still getting those cursed audio blips on a fresh install 🤔 i skipped checking the card with h2testw. ill try it soon when i get a chance

i'll try running the DE-10 nano bare too at some point

[ivory verge]

I'm curious what your problem is. I played for 4 hours yesterday, and also spent an hour listening to menu music on a second DE10 with headphones. I had no problems. I also checked the PAL version.

[cosmic tulip]

@ivory verge I'm not sure if I should ask you but have you noticed rumble not working on non x input pads (tenegaria lite, dual sense) Anything xinpit like my xbox controllers or retro fighters work

[ivory verge]

I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about it

[cosmic tulip]

I am so annoyed lol

[ivory verge]

I use 8bitdo ultimate and I don't know if I ever changed anything but rumble works

Xinput for sure

I think it's on mister main side ?

[manic citrus]

dualsense rumble works fine for me

[cosmic tulip]

Now it works for me

I am so confused\

[digital zinc]

controller's haunted

[cosmic tulip]

turned out to have been a controller setting fluke. BUT this may have revealed a control issue in dual sense controllers that may or may not happen for others
In which, and this is super weird
If you hold down square, left analog doesnt work
Edit: just a fucked ini file

[abstract drift]

in any core?

in any case i'd probably nuke your controller mappings before doing anything else

[cosmic tulip]

seems I needed to do a deep nuke

like I deleted fucking everything lol

seems to have fixed it but the real test is gonna be silent hill

[still palm]

https://github.com/Newbilius/PS1VideoCDCreator you can try this, and third link from the bottom leads to psxdev.net which is down but if you look at that page with waybackmachine you can see it, it's another example of a .str player. but I think you'd need the psx sdk installed for the second thing to work. https://www.mediafire.com/download/s61u86sxd1djncy/strplay.7z there's the link from WM

[cosmic tulip]

God it is incredibly cracked out that I learned Resident Evil games treat R3 as an alternate start/pause button in analogue mode

[manic dirge]

For me, audio CD playback skipping was because my power supply was too weak and I had too many USB things plugged in at once. Now I just have the Wi-Fi dongle and nothing else and upgraded to a 9v supply and the skipping went away.

So maybe you just need more power.

[desert otter]

I didn't know you could feed a de10 (or it's clones) more than 5v safely

[manic citrus]

you can't

or maybe this was a misterpi?

[desert otter]

Does Takis board allow for more than 5v? That's interesting if it does

Most anything USB-C is 5V unless it's built for PD spec

Like a laptop

[manic citrus]

it is built for pd

it uses a buck converter so there's some heat involved

[chilly kraken]

fukkin ken

[cosmic tulip]

Does anyone know how to set up your mouse as a lightgun

I got a hankering for time crisis

[cosmic tulip]

It works on snes

I am confused

[little frost]

I thought it was just toggling the setting and then plugging in a mouse

[strong hill]

Question . Is there a possibility that in the future they will implement in the PSX core, the link cable function, to be able to connect 2 misters via network port or via SNAC ports, to be able to play in 2 with 2 different monitors or TVs?

[digital zinc]

Someone else will have to step up to implement that, there are no plans to do so.

[strong hill]

OK. I hope that sooner or later someone will implement it

[cosmic tulip]

I don't know what to tell you

I literally got a mouse

hooked up

Switched to guncon

nothin

Works as a mouse

works on SNES

[little frost]

oh I don't know anything about Guncon, I just thought you meant literally the "Mouse" setting

I just tried it with Time Crisis for the hell of it and I notice that I have a reticle on the title screen but once I'm in game the reticle disappears?

[cosmic tulip]

At this point the mouse works like you said

but no aiming reticle in game (what the fuck were they thinking)

Is it possible to have a reticule show up when mouse is selected

like with guncon

I feel like that is the easiest answer lol

[abstract drift]

i think they're trying to preserve the difficulty or something

by having no crosshair for mouse

[sleek bone]

I would also love that (same for Saturn)

[ivory verge]

So I encourage more people to learn and have fun, maybe it’s not always worth waiting for others, but rather trying something new.

[ivory verge]

remember that for saturn there is not even room for the current code

[little frost]

yeah it’s interesting because I thought it was possible for MiSTer to overlay the reticle independent of the game, but maybe not for the PSX core

[sharp glen]

why does the core repo provide a blank .mcd but all the save are .sav?

[cosmic tulip]

You can do that
For guncon

[little frost]

ahhh ok…yeah, I should have actually tried that last night to confirm whether I saw the same behavior as you did

[ivory verge]

@chilly kraken do you have the latest 2xCPU core maybe ?

[chilly kraken]

should be in alt-cores

[cosmic tulip]

From what I can glean from discussions
Sorg only enabled guncon for wiimotes and later guncon3/gun4ir

[ivory verge]

Thank You! too much to remember😅

[charred smelt]

A virtual link cable over the network would be amazing! I'm not wrong in thinking this has been done elsewhere in MiSTer-land, am I?

[cosmic tulip]

not a bad idea but I do wonder what the advantages of this versus using lan is

[clear rock]

Taki "officially" recommends not using a PD-compatible adapter though since that causes increased heat due to said buck converter, but I noticed that it fails to power some accessories like my MT-32 Pi properly if I don't use a PD AC adapter

[chilly kraken]

fukkin ken

[manic citrus]

puts capability in, "hey dont' use that"

[clear rock]

looks at the IR port on his PSP

looks at the parallel port on his PSX

[jovial swallow]

I have the meanwell PSU they recommend. i'll upload a screen capture or cell phone video of the audio blipping soon

[clear rock]

I tried like five different AC adapters with and without two switches, one of which is PD compatible and one that is not, the results were pretty conclusive. Any situation where I was using a non-PD adapter, or a PD adapter with the non-PD comaptible switch (why does a switch need to be PD?) the Mt-32 at best would reset my mister when I turned it on, if not cause it to keep resetting

Any PD adapter straight or through the PD-compatible switch it didn't reset when I toggled the Mt-32 Pi on or off

Though all the AC adapters I used were intended for a Rapberry Pi

[ivory verge]

Have you tried unplugging everything and trying a different USB hub?

I saw in another thread that you reported an issue with the USB LED flashing after connecting the 8bitdo controller, which indicates a problem with either the USB hub or the power supply.

unless you've already solved that problem and it was something else

[river otter]

No he doesn't, the power supply recommendations on this page talks extensively about pd supplies https://retroremake.co/pages/firmware-setup

[outer elm]

Trying out this core for the first time - when using HDMI is it normal for there to be slight audio hitches/stutters in Final Fantasy VII when switching from the menu to the field? I assume it's to do with the game switching resolution between screens, I've tried the "Fixed Vblank" and "Sync 480i for HDMI" options and different vsync_adjust settings but nothing seemed to change

[sleek bone]

Have you tried the 480p hack? Forgot how the option is called exactly

[ivory verge]

yes, there is always a small lag in the audio after exiting the menu

it's been like this for as long as I can remember

[abstract drift]

it should go away if you turn off pause on slow cd

[outer elm]

That worked, though I'm guessing it might cause other problems! Thanks everyone, just glad I can stop trying to fix it 😅

[jovial swallow]

i didnt think of that! now i just realized i gave away my one usb a to micro dongle 😆

ill report back in a couple days when i can test the DE-10 on its own

[jovial swallow]

assuming the issue turns out to be the USB hub what board should i look into getting? mister addons has one but it isn't compatible with the "L" connector it looks like which means i'd need to get a micro usb micro male-male connector i guess? legacy pixels is advertising a USB hub with updated PMIC as well i see

i noticed that hot plugging a controller during the menu music also disturbs the audio

i tried a few of em

[jovial swallow]

including the 8bitdo one that causes the blinking

[ivory verge]

yes, that's normal

but if there is a problem with the power supply or with the USB hub, you may experience something similar

[tropic stratus]

hot plugging a controller will make the HPS/Linux busy, so it cannot reliably provide CD data anymore. The core will notice that CD data is late and pause until data is provided.
The pause will lead to stuttering audio.

If we would do Memcard Saving without opening the OSD, the same would happen there.

[abstract drift]

someone was looking into reducing the duration of those busy periods for controller changes

not all cores can pause like psx while its happening so its kind of a hazard

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[visual oyster]

Oh hey, did anyone ever figure out what was going on with differences between the audio output from MiSTer and PS1 hardware? I took the audio from a VGE comparison of a SOTN cut scene from both, and the audio was running at 2 different speeds and didn't stay in sync.

[chilly kraken]

how old is the video?

[visual oyster]

June 9, 2022. It’s been a while 😇

Longer than I realized, TBH

[chilly kraken]

I wonder if it's still the case. it might be, the core isn't 100% cycle accurate or whatever

[visual oyster]

The MisTer audio was more distorted too, but that’s harder to measure exactly.

I know as of a year-ish ago the verdict was, “Graphics are identical, and differences in audio are so minute that they have to be measured” or something like that.

Which is mostly the case here. I can hear the distortion but I only know about the speed difference because I lined them up by sample in Reaper.

This one is the one I originally ripped from to compare, btw: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ZEAY60ogg

[green oracle]

Looks like just a few SPU and CD changes have gone in since 2022 🙃 https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/commits/main/?since=2022-07-01&until=2026-04-16 so may be good to re-test just to see what the status is. The comparisons vs. real hardware are gold imho

[serene nebula]

Yes but also what hardware revision, there’s a ton of them.

Actually the GPU got a big upgrade mid cycle too. Games noticeably run and look better on the newer revisions.

[frail storm]

That's specially interesting because I see the same on native Linux games on my desktop PC (ie: stuttering on controller hot plugging, even if it means powering on a bluetooth controller!).
This phenomena with Linux and controller hot plug stuttering... what is causing it? systemd? udev? the kernel?
Is there a theoretical way to avoid it, no matter how impractical it would be?

[abstract drift]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/issues/1140

[serene nebula]

So basically don’t hot swap controllers

[misty marsh]

But hotswaping is ok on real hardware !

[somber steppe]

Real hardware? Can you even imagine?

[serene nebula]

But real hardware doesn’t use USB

Hot swapping is fine on SNAC

[chilly kraken]

Case closed

[serene nebula]

[lost coyote]

This is what I do.
I understand that it can potentially lead to some bugs, but it's fine so far in the games I play

[manic citrus]

they aren't related. Mister does it for a very mister specific reason.

[jovial swallow]

hmm the DE-10 on its own still causes the blips using both PSUs (meanwell and stock DE-10 one). i guess this is likely a weird edge case related to natural variations of the DE-10? i've noticed on a fresh boot i can sometimes get it "perfect" on my analog TV or monitor's speakers but it may be that worse speakers mask slight underruns?

i can't find issues in other games ive been trying yet also...any game i should try testing with?

the timing of the blips is also not consistent

[cosmic tulip]

Has there been a new 2xCPU core lately

The one I got is like... back from february

[ivory verge]

Yes https://github.com/TheJesusFish/alt-cores/tree/main/_Other

[cosmic tulip]

Thank you!

[cosmic tulip]

cool this core seems to work much better

[serene notch]

Has anyone ever experienced this before? Using a superstation One and latest unstable and official psx cores with time crisis.

[ivory verge]

Nope , never

Psx bios or open bios ?

is there a problem with the controller? the gun? The game ?

I'm currently at a retro party, we played TC with friends, calibration and the game works fine

De10 nano

[serene notch]

I just swapped guns does it on both but time crisis titan does not

Might be my copy of the game, I'll swap it ty

Hmm point blank also does it, interesting.

[ivory verge]

Are you using the Sony BIOS or the Open BIOS that comes with SS1?

[serene notch]

Sony

[ivory verge]

Guncon 1?

[serene notch]

Yup

All real hardware

[ivory verge]

unfortunately I have no idea

[serene notch]

Just tried on my real psx both work fine

Yeah it's weird it's like the guns are triggering something bc in point blank the menu flashes

When you try to play time crisis it's like the side button is constantly being pressed in a turbo mode

[ivory verge]

Yeah i use gc1 too with standard snac , works fine

[serene notch]

You don't have to calibrate them or setup them up with snac correct?

Plug in and go?

Outside of flipping to snac port in psx menu

[ivory verge]

Unfortunately, I have no idea what could be wrong, I don't have SS1 and I have no way to check

[ivory verge]

Yes , plug and go

[serene notch]

I got an idea, going to swap back in the og memory card that comes with the superstarion

I cloned my old one and moved configs over might be a conflict setting somewhere

I did try deleting all the files under config

And it works. I am using the same .ini files from the superstation One just on a memory card with different mister nightly and more games. What would cause that?

[cosmic tulip]

Very strange. I uploaded a bunch of games to my mister via ftp and gave it like like a good 30-40 minutes/overnight between uploads (no more than 2-4 gigs) and now if I leave the Mister on too long, I get weird image and audio issues

and I wonder if I damaged my mister or my sd card

I think its my card damn

[serene notch]

I left mine on for two days while it cloned my SD card

Was it hot?

[cosmic tulip]

Yes

It was fine until I did the transfer

[serene notch]

Try a fresh install?

[cosmic tulip]

Same card?

cause I really cant afford a new micro sd card

a basic 512 up in canada is like 250 dollars

no wait

[serene notch]

No smaller one just to test?

Just need like 32gb and the game that's doing the graphical issues

[cosmic tulip]

mm

I think I can find one

[serene notch]

@ivory verge mystery solved, it's this memory card causing it.

Unplugged it, immediately works

[ivory verge]

Great 🙂

[serene notch]

Oh wow doesn't do it with official one

Just like the old days folks, don't use shit memory cards 😂

[ivory verge]

Easy fix 🙂

[serene notch]

Yup

[abstract drift]

its because memory cards and controllers all share one bus on PSX

anything off electrically with either can interfere with everything

[manic dirge]

Which PSX revision is the PSX core based on? 5501?

[ivory verge]

Yes , new revision 208pin

[shut escarp]

I've run into it before but not sure what triggers it

retrocastle SNAC, real GC1s, virtual MC

[serene notch]

It was 100% the old 3rd party memory card. Played all day with the memcardpro, worked fine after I swapped.

[desert otter]

I also have a third party PS1 memory card I use on my PSOne back in the day. Imma see if it works or causes issues when plugged in to my SS1 when it gets here

[topaz crow]

are you telling me your mem card pro actually worked

and didnt just freeze

tell me your set up please and what revision of ss one you have

psu, revision of fw on mcp too helps

and whether or not youre using wifi and/or game ID

[chilly kraken]

I thought the MCP working was a matter of superstation revision?

[topaz crow]

you thought wrong!

im trying to find the right combination of factors, because we have tested every known revision and whether or not it works is completely up to chance

sometimes itll even work fine for a bit and then stop later on

@serene notch rancid, can you please put this in your games/psx and run it via the "exe" load option of the psc core

if you get data when the mcp is plugged in, then it should be working fine

this means its working and read data

[chilly kraken]

britney_spears_bikini.jpg.exe

[topaz crow]

if it stays blank then that means it hasnt properly read anything yet

in the meantime, i actually came here to report another bug

these are the versions of the psx core and mister main im running at the moment

this is a chd of parappa US version. theres a slight audio skip of the jet baby song that plays when the game loads up after the initial title screen

this isnt expected behavior

so i decided to test the jp version since i also have it on my external drive as a bin/cue

and its even worse here, just has a blank screen

not sure if this is a regression in the core, but im fairly sure it worked before as expected

i only noticed this because some one else in takis discord posted a parappa clip and i heard that weird little skip on their video recording

both are ss one units, if it matters

[chilly kraken]

pretty sure kuba tried to fix this? Here is an issue for the JP version: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/142

[topaz crow]

ok, so its known, good to know

[chilly kraken]

checking the US one now

#1046940919607345272 message

But i dunno if this intro bug is new. Do know if it happens on real hardware?

[topaz crow]

the audio skip absolutely does not

on one hand, i guess its good that it loads and can play but i noticed the weirdness of the jet baby sound playing past the point it was supposed to

well, good that it plays on US iso

also claiming that parappa isnt that important to the playstation is absolute clown behavior lol

its the FIRST rhythm game, the face that set off a thousand ships

[chilly kraken]

who said that?

[manic citrus]

let's blame Robby

[topaz crow]

👊

[chilly kraken]

We really need to have a discussion about words and how they work

"It’s hardly the most important game in the library 😅" != "claiming that parappa isnt that important to the playstation"

[topaz crow]

https://tenor.com/view/mjpersonal-gif-12910757661639197726

[chilly kraken]

those sentiments don't even live in the same town

[topaz crow]

for context, ive been in the rhythm game community for like 25 years

im a mod on sows and a few other places, iykyk

[shut escarp]

Give me some free ratio plz

[topaz crow]

well you know me irl, if you really wanted it, you should have asked

[shut escarp]

I’m over here clicking web ring buttons while a gif of a dong flaps at me tauntingly for my ratio

IYKYK

[serene notch]

Yes not home ATM will do when I get a chance

[topaz crow]

Thanks appreciate it greatly

[tacit fox]

Did Taki put this under a scope? The controller should not ack and release the SPI bus if the PSX is not talking to it (i.e., the first byte != 0x01)

[topaz crow]

Taki has no real reason to make the mcp work particularly because he has his own mem card coming and other cards seem to work for the most part consistently

I've been trying to encourage him to send Thanos his unit a little early

So he can scope it, and thanos and I have tried a few things to try and make it work but no dice yet

[tacit fox]

It’s probably related to some missing pull-up resistor somewhere

[topaz crow]

That was our working theory, the 7.5 v line

We measure voltages and it's slightly under volted on the SS1

[tacit fox]

Someone was about to test powering the MCP externally

Not sure if that happened

[topaz crow]

I worked with incognito man, yeah

And a few other people

Thanos just needs to get his hands on a unit, and the only question... Is... Well you know....

Wen?

[serene nebula]

When he snaps half of us out of existence?

[ivory verge]

It's always like that in the core ( usa and jp ver.), nothing new, but thanks for the report

[ivory verge]

There is no easy fix

I tried to fix it, but without an accurate model of some of the behaviors it is impossible.

[ivory verge]

it's was about Virtual Pool 3 not Parappa, let's not mix things up

[cosmic tulip]

From my tests so far, it was my microSD that ate shit.

I tend to use Sandisk is there any other brands people could suggest that are more rugged

shame though

it was a 1tb

microsd

some people suggest lexar

[forest trench]

This might help:
https://amiga.vision/sd

[river otter]

I'm quite partial to WD Purple SD cards for rugged use cases although they'd probably be overkill for the MiSTer

[cosmic tulip]

Kinda yeah. I transfered a large number of games over FTP

And now when the mister's been left on too long

its too slow to load PS1 or other disc based games properly

Gonna get a 256 gig rugged card from Sandisk

I do wish to build an arcade cabinet at some point so this is good information overall

Most likely

I have samba

Enabled

But what annoys me is how all these dev boards and tinker boards just go
micro sd
Micro sd
Micro sd
When all we really need is just a sata connector

Like it's a standard that's been around for over 20 years now bro cmon

I like having a 1tb because I deal with severe burnout and tend to jump around games a lot because I cant concentrate on them for long lol

[trim gull]

When you transfer lots of games over, you should use a good microSD to USB 3 converter

I use one from ANKER I got for $15 a couple years ago, it’s very reliable

[spark ermine]

When it comes to disc images I throw them on a 1tb sata ssd and just connect it with usb

[visual oyster]

I long for the day when those were cheaper

I haven't checked recently but I think one that I paid $50 for a year ago was somewhere between 150 and 200 right now

[cosmic tulip]

Every human on earth owns that anker microsd card interface

[trim gull]

yea it’s good that’s why 🙂

[cosmic tulip]

I should at some point figure out how to do a CIFs network share

[dawn axle]

https://github.com/retronas/retronas/wiki/MiSTer-FPGA

Great guide that can apply whether or not you use retronas

If you don’t you’ll just need to configure the SMB share manually beforehand

[little frost]

OMG the 4TB drive I bought in 2023 for $180 is now $800 on Amazon

[visual oyster]

Sounds about right

[little frost]

I knew it’d be more expensive, but that is insanity

[cosmic tulip]

This is why I'm so pissed off. MicroSDs have the same fuckin price problem

fucking AI

[digital zinc]

yea, I was going to buy some larger SSDs and SD cards earlier this year, and then I saw that all the prices were pretty much double what I would pay.... hopefully shit goes back to what might count as normal at some point

[serene nebula]

But why, I thought it was just ram prices going through the roof.

[manic citrus]

AI also needs storage, so they also gobbled up nand chips

[serene nebula]

damn that sucks

[visual oyster]

Yeah, I've heard that either prices don't go down and this is the new normal because the manufacturers like money, even if the bubble bursts.

Or, a new manufacturer shows up, ends the shortage, and charges less and the prices have to come down to compete.

I'm not holding my breath on the bubble bursting just because of how hard the AI companies are going to get it integrated into everything, and the way the corporations are gobbling it up.

My wife just found out that the platform she works on finally has a dedicated AI agent that's supposed to solve the majority of problems that humans deal with running it manually, and the fear is that the company will decide they need fewer humans doing that job (rather than just making easier for the humans that already work there to do their jobs and solve problems faster)

[proven seal]

set sam altman on fire

[serene notch]

@topaz crow Sorry for the delay my friend, been a busy couple days. Here is the output you requested.

[cosmic tulip]

Different person asked you for that unfortunately

We were talking about my sd card issues

[serene notch]

Ah 😂

[serene notch]

Fixed 😄

[chilly kraken]

@topaz crow

he won't see it if you edited the post I don't think

[topaz crow]

you have the 002 version, i assume @serene notch (the second revision of the mem card, the non-fpga version)

also thats incredible, its working

whats your power supply look like?

[topaz crow]

Also have you had the chance to open it up and check the revision of the ss1 PCB and/or the firmware version you're using of the mcp?

[serene notch]

Power supply to superstation is just an Anker cell brick, nothing special I can snap a photo later. Have not opened the superstation yet but it's a founders edition that I got beginning of April

[topaz crow]

It would help to know the volts and amperage on the brick

They usually put it on there in fine print

For context, we've been trying to ascertain why the mem card pro series of cards haven't been able to work

And we had all sorts of theories as to why, but it seems like you actually have a SS one unit that doesn't have any issues

And the fact that the app actually returns data transfer when plugging in is the first time we've seen that confirmed on any mcp

So you have something of a unicorn in your hands

[abstract drift]

whats the test ? i've got a SS one and.... all the MCPs

[topaz crow]

namely, does it work?

run this app

#1046940919607345272 message

if it does work, please provide the fw of the cards, the model of the cards/when you ordered them, the revision of the ss one (on the pcb), the power rating of the psu block, and what all you had connected to the ss one

@abstract drift

if you want to go extra, and have an oscilloscope or a multi meter, check the voltage lines of the psx controller ports on the SS one. line 3 is the one we're most interested in

[dull ledge]

composite blend looks so much better on the psx core ... was too jaggedy on with 600tvl pvm rgb

[chilly kraken]

Is it possible to mix and match USB and snac? Like if I wanted to use a guncon in time crisis, but then maybe a controller for a pedal?

[fluid raft]

Agreed! Now try playing Silent Hill on the PSX core and Zelda: Ocarina of Time on the N64 core with CBlend on

[topaz crow]

on the ss one, no, and its likely the same on a regular mister stack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00LmJfTnXKI

you gotta go all in, at least how the system is currently designed

[chilly kraken]

that's what I thought

I figured it was "once you turn on snac, the core doesn't hear USB anymore"

[desert otter]

why wouldn't it work? If you have a SNAC contoller as player 1 and in the mister OSD you set a USB controller as player 2 (a virtual simulated controller) it should work just fine with multiple inputs like that.

🤔

it's why the core gives you the option to specify what each player input can be

on a regular mister stack that is

idk about how things are wired up internally with SS1 all that much. I do know that with the way Taki wired it up for those front controller ports, he added the SNAC port via the dock because there's a way he designed for it to essentially hijack/bypass what is wired up internally with the front ports using the dock and it's special underside connector thing allowing for you to still then be able to use other SNAC peripherals so there's some wonky hijinx going on there

referring to JesusFish question about setting up a guncon with a pedal

in regards to using Snac with memcards and stuff ye, you can't mix and match by having a real memcard for player 1 while using a USB/BT controller with virtual input on the same port.

all or nothing as you say

but you can use a SNAC controller with a virtaul memcard I believe

thankfully a large amount of PS1 games do allow you to use player 2 slot for memcard and loading saving games even though you're using slot one for inputs so you can still do that for all the games that support that if wanting to use a real memcard while using a USB/BT controller

[dull ledge]

Looks great. I tried on parasite eve as well 🙂

[tropic stratus]

you can set each port individually and you can use snac controller with virtual memcard.
Real memcard with USB controller would be possible, but so far no one requested it.
Easy workaround for that is to copy the memcard using bios into the virtual one

[abstract drift]

i play timecrisis with a snac guncon and a usb pedal all the time

[clear rock]

When using a real memcard does it write to it when the PSX would have normally written to it or do you still need to open the OSD like a virtual memcard?

[topaz crow]

the idea is that yes, it operates like real hardware and will write to the memory card

[topaz crow]

ohh share your set up? i wasnt able to get it to work

[abstract drift]

nothing complicated... just works

set port 1 to snac and port2 to digital

[shut escarp]

Can confirm.

SNAC p1, pedal is p2 set to digital and mapped to “X”

Virtual or real mem card can both work

[shut escarp]

Wouldn’t need to open OSD like you do with virtual

@chilly kraken @topaz crow see above

[chilly kraken]

Thanks friends

[ruby sleet]

Following this conversation. Thanks to everyone that has shown that a pedal does work with a usb controller. I haven't been able to get it to work wireless with either a 2.4ghz dongle or my DualSense via BT. Confirmed working and mapped, but the moment I try to use either as my 'pedal' with a GunCon on SNAC port 1: nothing.

Maybe it has to be a wired controller?

[shut escarp]

You need to make sure the pedal is player 2

Try reset player assignment and press a button on it, with SNAC already set to p1

Or, before setting p1 to SNAC map a random controller to p1, pedal to p2, THEN set p1 to SNAC

I think both of those order of operations should work

[ruby sleet]

I'll give it a shot tomorrow and see how it goes. Thanks, Kajoq! I figured it's something I'm just missing in my setup.

[shut escarp]

Good luck! It should work so it’s probably just order of operations.

Ie: if you boot core, then pressed a button on the pedal first, then set p1 to SNAC, you basically overwrote the pedal’s slot with SNAC as p1, and have to do reassign player assignment to push it to player 2

[ruby sleet]

Makes sense to me. If I get a chance tonight I'll try it out.

[ruby sleet]

Seems I've uncovered a larger issue for me: I can't get any game to see a P2 controller mixing SNAC and a digital controller. Been trying all the tricks Kajoq outlined, but nothing seems to work.

Two digital controllers works
SNAC for P1 or P2 works
No mix of SNAC and digital works
Weirder yet: P1 as SNAC, P2 as Digital. No P2 control. Change P1 to digital, and what should be the "P2" controller works as P1. Switch it back to SNAC P1, and now that works as P1.

Very possible it's something I'm missing or misconfigured ages ago. Maybe a fresh Mr. Fusion setup is in my future 😄

But this is across two different MiSTer setups, so that already casts doubt on that idea.

It's a MiSTer Addons 2 port SNAC adapter if that makes any difference.

[ruby sleet]

Alright: final plot thickening device I'll share. I CAN get Digital P1 and SNAC Port 2 working. But not the other way around. I guess I'm going to be troubleshooting this weekend. 😄

[tropic stratus]

you need a second pad, so the counter for the second one reaches two. First USb/Bluetooth will be p1, second will be p2.
Don't know if there is a method to have only one pad and assign to P2.

[manic citrus]

you can do some ini trickery to force specific usb ports or controller types to be whatever player you want

[ruby sleet]

Thank you! That makes sense. I'll look into the ini config. I appreciate everyone helping me out. I didn't mean to hijack the channel. 😅

[abstract drift]

i thought setting pad1 to snac automatically shifted digital pads to p2

i might be thinking of the n64 core

[ruby sleet]

I'm curious now how Kajoq's setup works. Clearly it is. Magic?

[desert otter]

No. His cabinet is multifunctional as you can see he has buttons and sticks attached as well. And those are going to be attached as USB. So his setup has something populated as a first connected device cuz he will use them to control the MiSTer menu.

[shut escarp]

There’s a chance there’s been a regression at some point, that video is like 2-3 years old, but I can test again when I get home tomorrow

[topaz crow]

thats why i was asking lol

it seems like it could be fixed though, which is good

[slim trout]

@ivory verge @shrewd pasture @serene nebula do you remember the other day that I exposed problems playing from an usb, that had freezes in the core? I've got news on that matter

I realized that the green light in the hub stack powered off. Then did a dmesg and got device descriptor read error -110 and -71. Searching about it found that it is an error related to disconnection by power consumption

Effectively, after the freezing, the pen gets disconnected and unmounted

The causes normally are a usb power consumption protection. So, not related with a poor power brick or with a faulty usb pen drive (initially)

[shrewd pasture]

how many amps does the power plug provide?

[slim trout]

The pen is fine. I've been searching about the model I have and it seems that for heat, sometimes those got disconnected

And it happened with cores using cd: sega Saturn and psx. Probably with neogeocd I would have the same problems

Due to the constant lectures on the pen

The model is identified as a SanDisk 3.2Gen1. Is not the flat model, but searching info it says that all that line used to have heat problems

So, here it is the reason. The curious thing is that the fact that the usb is having problems, it makes the core freeze. Not only the psx core, but also the underlaying mister core, because the osd is also not responsive

If that happens, a solution is: unplug the usb, plug again, open the osd load image, and load the same image. The game does not restart because is the current image loaded and it seems to solve the problem (till disconnection happens again)

End of repo 🙂

[slim trout]

It's a 4A plug. As I mentioned in the past this plug was able to power a usb powered display through the power ports of the usb hug (pi hub version)

It's a pure 5v adapter. No PD

I have another pen of the same model (bought 2); moved the chd file to the other pen and played from there yesterday. I had no issues. So it seems the pen in question must be in the limit (due to fabrication deviations?). Maybe it gets little hotter than normal and gets problems. Or have picks of consumption that triggers the usb power protection 🤷

[shrewd pasture]

yeah that was what I recalled but strange that the USB pulls so much power that it shuts down... still good that you found the core iisue I guess

[slim trout]

Last thing about the pen, maybe it depends on the fullness of the pen. The other I tested was half full whereas the other was almost full 🤷

The issue with the freezing... I've seen that the rbf file, when a core is running, is consuming 50% of the arm CPU. I thought it was running purely on the fpga side... Many times I've read loading and "collapsing" the arm CPU would not affect the fpga side, but watching this fact... I'm not so sure...

It's obvious that the core needs part of the arm side for interacting with the usb devices and other minor tasks (hdmi video output?)

Maybe the core it's not frozen but in pause waiting for the cd to respond and the mister underlaying core is not frozen but the input side processed by the Linux is, so no possibility of opening the osd

[slim trout]

Probably the usb pendrive is triggering some heat protection on itself

[shut escarp]

@ruby sleet @topaz crow can confirm it still works no issue.

MiSTercade v1, retrocastle SNAC, Virtual memory card

Launch game, wiggle p1 joystick, stomp on Pedal (or press X on controller 2)
Open OSD
Set P1 to SNAC, P2 is still on “duashock” by default

P1 is now gun P2 is pedal, and it just works

[sinful bloom]

okay, I just wanna make sure

and this is super specific but

is Dark Forces on PS1 having issues with demo playback on actual console?

watching the loops in the background and the demo player does nonsensical things while ramming walls and it's always something new every time

probably doesn't help that the enemies don't move on a fixed pattern like Doom's randomization table

[ivory verge]

Real HW

collides with a wall, aims next to the target, etc.

So yes, It act just as stupid on a real console.

[sinful bloom]

thanks!

the port dev team probably thought it would be cool to implement in a game that did not have demo playback on dos

[still lichen]

Getting occasional screen tearing on Spyro 1 on a CRT, im guessing thats expected/happens on normal hardware?

[ivory verge]

I've never seen screen tearing in Spyro

[still lichen]

I hadnt seen/noticed it til today, ive been playing for about a week or so

I noticed some other odd behavior right before i saw it too: the music took a really long time between restarts in a level, like minutes of silence

It was in the Dreamweavers stage with the fairies, forget the name

Well, the music was in that stage, the screen tearing was in Dreamweavers overworld

[ivory verge]

It's hard to say what could have caused it.

[still lichen]

Hm, ok. Ill keep an eye out and see if it happens again

If it does, what info would you need for debugging?

[ivory verge]

I'm playing Dream Weavers now and I don't see any problems with music or screen teraing

If it's repetitive, always in the same place, then the savestate before it happens. If it's random, it's hard to say why this problem occurs. Problems reading from the card? PSU? Game image?

are you using de10? default settings in core?

[still lichen]

de10, i believe its one of the Triad PSUs

Default settings afaik but im not 100% confident

I did mess with turning fastboot on and then off before i played today, but after i turned it back off i did a fresh boot of the core

And its loading the game from a NAS over eth, everything's healthy there

[ivory verge]

There could be a problem with reading data sometimes, if it was a common you would see this problem all the time. I use sd card no problem for me with Spyro

I'll leave such tests for someone who has a lot of free time. I'm not that curious.🙂

[still lichen]

Possible, ive just never seen it before in all my time using the core

Granted, ive also never played spyro on it til now

[abstract drift]

we spent ages testing gran turismo saved replays which is kind of the same problem

[still lichen]

the demo issue, or the screen tearing?

[ivory verge]

Replays in Gran Turismo

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/199

that's a different topic

[upper forge]

@sinful bloom did you try Dark Forces on the 2x core?

[sinful bloom]

yeah, it's the same

the perf boost is also pretty miniscule

[upper forge]

Yeah, I think Dark Forces needs more. I think people have clocked it higher in Duckstation

[abstract drift]

it might run better on ao486

[silent bridge]

Oh dang I had a fever dream that the 99MHz triple speed was real

[ivory verge]

I think 2xcpu + turbo high is ok for Dark Forces

I checked it some time ago and there was a significant improvement in performance

[ivory verge]

i tried to make 3xCPU

[silent bridge]

That’s probably what my wonky memory was recalling 😅💪

[sinful bloom]

Honestly? The best performing 3D shooter of mid 90's on that core

Probably because of multithreading

[upper forge]

Try again. 😥

[ivory verge]

I don't see any benefits having already 2x + turbo high

[upper forge]

https://youtu.be/d293Y_Uek3M?si=9JKMLllDWvw2oTna&t=66

[ivory verge]

have you tried 2x + turbo high ?

[upper forge]

No 😔

[lusty coral]

The only ‘improvement’ I could see with that is for games that do not have a framerate cap.

For example Duke Nukem Time to Kill. With the standard core it struggles to maintain 20fps. But when you start playing around with 2x core and turbo. You do hit 30fps, but it now fluctuates to like 40fps at times. Causing drops and stutters due to the game not having a framerate cap.

Maybe a theoretical 3x core might help games without framerate caps stutter less?

[serene nebula]

or maybe pull yourself up by your bootstraps and enjoy the 20fps

[somber steppe]

Was that the pitch for UE5 as well?

[upper forge]

By @ivory verge & @shrewd pasture 's powers combined I am Captain 3X Core!

[rare gyro]

sounds like that game could use a romhack to set an FPS cap

[lusty coral]

That is an option. There’s a few games like it.

[abstract drift]

quake2 could use one if someone going to start up doing fps cap patches 😛

rob tried to implement it in the core itself but it didn't go well

[mortal oracle]

Turbo cores and higher framerates

Next you’ll be talking about save states and cheevos

[cosmic tulip]

The biggest problem making a ps2 core is no one has figured out how the cd block works exactly if I recall. Though that might have changed.
Pcsx2 and play both use a work around last time I checked and the hdd mod means no one has worked on an ode

[dark mountain]

And we don't have the full knowledge of the Emotion Engine too.

Too much for a single person, and even a small team.

[spark ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-emotional-damage-emotional-damage-gif-25817245

[digital zinc]

PS2's and PS3's are also magnitudes cheaper for PS2 games than an FPGA that could possibly have it would be

[still lichen]

Replayed this today, and im pretty sure what i was actually seeing is the seams between polygons in the big castle in the Dreamweavers overworld as i swept the camera past it. I was close enough that it filled the whole screen, so it looked like a horizontal line

[ivory verge]

thanks for the info 🙂

[still lichen]

Thanks for the core! +1 for accuracy

[shut escarp]

https://youtu.be/0td_3Zk31UM

[topaz crow]

Tiny boolets

[mystic flare]

runs even better on turbo core

[rancid anchor]

seems the composer of the music has connections to Imagine, as does Kohei Tanaka the composer of Alundra, samples and composition sound very similar

I might have to check it out on that alone

[frail storm]

Are there games that have problems with the Turbo (2x CPU Speed) core?

I mean.. is it a good idea to have it as the default PSX core?

[topaz crow]

Leave it on, and if the game doesn't work the way you expect it, just disable it and reboot

[lusty coral]

Probably not hence why it isn’t the default psx core. As I have experienced issues and quirks either many games using the 2XPSX core

I recently experienced graphical issues with the turbo + 2xcpu for Silent hill. So installed Turbo and just ran it with 2xcpu

I believe the Harry Potter games might have an issue with saving? From what i remember. Tony hawks pro skater has an issue with saving and loading with both the 2xcpu and turbo enabled

Remember, Turbo and 2xcpu are different from one another. I normally enable turbo and if I’m having issues or quirks. I disable it, but still continue to use the 2xcpu core

But 99% of my time on the PSX core has been with the 2XPSX version. Although this might change with the RetroAchievements

[desert otter]

As far as I've been aware this whole time the 2xcpu core is exactly the same as the main core when you don't have turbo enabled. (Assuming updates haven't been made to main and 2X has yet to get updated as well)

The difference between them happens when you enable Turbo High mode, while high mode goes up to like 1.5x CPU on normal core, it's what enables 2x on the 2X core.

[feral swift]

Syphon Filter crashed on me consistently when starting a new game with the 2xcpu core. I haven't tried it with the latest version. I don't think I encountered any other issues with it otherwise.

[tropic stratus]

No, the 2x core runs the CPU at double speed all the time. Turbo is just additional speedup.

I wouldn't recommend using it as default core unless you experience FPS drops all the time, which isn't that common for most PSX games

Even then, the stock core with moderate turbo is likely more stable and compatible than 2x

[cosmic tulip]

can confirm. 2x kinda fucked up in the later half of my silent hill 1 playthrough but stock core with turbo worked great

[ivory verge]

I mainly use 2x for Gran Turismo, replays work ok, no additional settings for turbo needed

[harsh shale]

asked ChatGPT what the final design of the Nintendo Playstation would have looked like

[clear rock]

🤣

[mortal oracle]

That’s actually pretty nice

[harsh shale]

It's a'ight

[clear rock]

It's just a weird looking PSX

It's far more PSX than SNES, despite the Nintendo Play Station being just a CD addon for the SNES with no additional features or enhancements

[upper forge]

@clear rock be like, get that a.i. generated slop off ma lawn!

[clear rock]

Eh, I have my likes and dislikes with AI

The other way I had to fight Gemini to try to determine what PS2 game was being played in an old photo, it kept insisting the image was actually AI generated, even when told the photo is over a decade old

[serene nebula]

Honestly, that controller looks better than the PS1 controller

[mortal oracle]

It would fit better in your tiny hands

[harsh shale]

Kinda looks like the 8bitdo Pro

[zealous linden]

I’m running a super station one and its working well. I have noticed on FF VII the battle screen transition shows a screen tear due to the resolution change. Is this a known issue I should be at peace with?

I’m running on an LGC3 OLED

[ivory verge]

Yes , it's normal

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[ivory verge]

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[zealous linden]

Sweet. I’m now at peace 😂

[zealous linden]

Off topic. But ..

Do you use a NAS for ROM storage??

I do and it’s fantastic, but My CIFS Mount doesn’t work when I turn the SSOne back on. Have to run the scripts again. Not the end of the world. But surely there is a fix here?

[ivory verge]

No , sorry. I use only micro sd cards

[zealous linden]

No worries. Managed to sort ☺️

[zealous linden]

I’m finding running all games, and specifically PSX fine via my NAS drive.

I’ve seen the odd hitch or sound pop and curious if this would be a NAS issue. But it’s too infrequent to repeat

Any “must do” settings for a NAS user, specifically for CD based games ?

[patent junco]

I load all the games for CD-based cores from my NAS, I don’t think I needed any special settings though, worked flawlessly out of the box

[zealous linden]

I’m overthinking it then

I’m in the habit of scrutinising my set up in the search for perfection 😂

A bad habbit ….

[vestal thicket]

JFC, that power plug port! What kind of power did it thing it'd draw? 200w?!

[dawn axle]

That’s the power of PlayStation

[silent bridge]

Could be a motivational or a taunting message? 😛

[clear rock]

Someone developed a 99MHz kernel?

[serene nebula]

What’s that game above Tekken

[ivory verge]

Street Fighter ?

🤷‍♂️

[silent bridge]

It's really weird the product info label (?) is on the front of the PS1

[lilac scaffold]

Player 1 mem card slot says controller 🙂

[ivory verge]

It's a rare 99Mhz revision

[spark ermine]

The controller has an eject button instead of start

[lilac scaffold]

Every image is a spot the difference game in AI world

[scenic ledge]

Mady by Dino Jenkins?