Sony PlayStation

[scenic ledge]

What color?

[dark mountain]

Blue.

#fpga-platforms message

[dull wedge]

@tropic stratus How's it going with the cop0 update implementation on the debug functions? Always willing to help debug or test things whenever I can. Once it's implemented, I'll finally feel confident in buying a super station one to replace my failing PS1. Ill send them an invoice for helping contribute to the core 🤣

[ivory verge]

This is a hardware limitation. What fix would you like to make in this case?

[dull wedge]

I couldn't tell ya, since I've never tested it for myself

I don't own an MiSTer FPGA system yet, but I do know a whole lot about reverse engineering games, emulators and the OG PS1. So, just by people reporting back to me, I can usually figure out what is going on, and help devs

I don't recall, I'm not around there as much. I mostly contribute to the Duckstation code database. But any find like that is really cool! Sadly some games really don't play well with higher framerates. So I've been really enjoying using lossless scaling. It's some form of AI interpolated frame generation, actually looks really good

[tropic stratus]

sorry, didn't found the time yet to work on it. I will do it, just cannot promise yet when exactly. Hopefully still in january. Sorry 🙁

[chilly kraken]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/commit/52ebfefd1aabbc1931ecfe8c9bd101c1fab4dafc

kuba can rest

[ivory verge]

maybe one day...

[serene nebula]

thank you, also updated da P

[manic citrus]

DA P

[mortal oracle]

U da P

No u da P

[manic citrus]

Robby is DA BIG P

[serene nebula]

who lives in DA BIG D

[chilly kraken]

Delaware, baybeeeeee

[serene nebula]

No!!!

DALLAS

[dark mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-im-in-delaware-gif-14757439

[clear rock]

https://tenor.com/view/fea-giant-rat-gif-25069354

[serene nebula]

very cool rat tbh

[sand minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNtefWOnWWk Ah! Have some cheese, rat!

[glass isle]

It's an adapter bought on AliExpress. I don't like having the memory in slot 1 because it forces me to use the controller as a SNAC as well, and I can't access the menu to make save states or speed up the game.

[languid geyser]

I may or may not have identified an issue with analog control in Mega Man Legends 2. Maybe someone else can confirm.

In Legends 2 (and the Legends 2 demo) the analog control for the left stick seems to be misreading inputs constantly. Very noticeable if you just run around in circles; Mega Man will stop and turn around constantly Sometimes the character will walk instead of running for a second as well.

I’ve tested two controller so far, neither of which have demonstrated drift in the past, and one of which is Hall Effect.

My original PS1 controller connected via snac does not have this issue.

I don’t know if there is a way to calibrate analog stick control on MiSTer, if that would solve the problem, or if it’s a way the core is interpreting inputs for this game.

[languid geyser]

Update!

The issue IS there on Snac as well, but for some reason didn’t show up at first. Eventually it developed the same problem, in the same directions: North-west and South-West. Disabling snac and re-enabling snac made it work normally again for now.

[shut escarp]

Now test it on real hardware

Also, likely worth checking that control in the advanced input test core to double check that the analog sticks arent doing anything funky

[languid geyser]

Is that a core I would have to download, or does it come installed on regular builds/update_all?

[shut escarp]

Come with the update_all cores.

Go to cores-> utility->input test

Then hold select to get to the advanced screen

[languid geyser]

Okay. Will do that soon then. Testing on original hardware now (well, PS2, since my Ps1 isn’t hooked up).

I’d assume that ps2 is close enough since it isn’t software emulation, and I’m using the actual official disc for the game.

[shut escarp]

fwiw, im not having any analog issues

[languid geyser]

Legends 2, not Tron Bonne.

[shut escarp]

Oops. Same result though

[languid geyser]

Interesting, thanks.

[chilly kraken]

Nice D (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[languid geyser]

Hard to see over video but doesn’t look like there’s any problems.

I think I see what the problem is.

I saw you were using a dualshock 4, so I plugged mine in. It indeed works WAY better with that controller, though still not absolutely perfect (i have a memory of the game having analog issue even on ps3, which I also need to confirm, but could easily be explained by stick drift)

Because the problem is diagonals. i think the game is expecting inputs at closer to the edges of the circumference than the range many analog sticks actually support.

GiliKit

Dualshock 4

The lit up square in each pic is how far to the north-east the stick can reach.

Oh… you can also read the coordinates at the bottom. That’s probably easier than finding the slightly brighter dot lol.

When the analog stick is only pushed partway in Legends 2, it activates the walking animation which is tied to 8-directions-digital. That’s why spinning the stick will result in Mega Man abruptly stopping, because he is tranitioning into a walk cycle and digital direction.

[shut escarp]

the game doesnt have analog movement, its just translating the analog into 8 way

and spoofing holding the walk button until you pass a threshold on the stick

[languid geyser]

No, it definitely feels like actual analog control.

At non-walking speeds you can make very precise changes in direction.

The game does tend to snap to 8 directions but it doesn’t HAVE to, unless you are walking.

[shut escarp]

oh weird you're right, walking is definitely 8 way only

i still tries to snap to the 45s a lot but you can do proper curves

[clear rock]

So running is analog but walking is 8-way?

[languid geyser]

Yep

Probably a weird consequence of being on the same engine as the first game, which ONLY had digital input control.

[dusk berry]

Gran Turismo 2 PAL freezes in GT mode —>gran turismo league —> selecting a race. On stable version no problem

[dusk berry]

Freeze here

[dark mountain]

Confirmed on my side, but on a previous screen.

That's a regression.

[dusk berry]

Ok, thanks

[dark mountain]

20260113/20260118 seem okay, I'm checking the other recent unstable versions.

The regression appeared when a fix on DMA empty sector read was introduced on build 20260123. @ivory verge

Gran Turismo 2 (Europe) (Disc 2) (Gran Turismo Mode)
Choose you language - Start Game - Try to go on the menu and navigate to Go Race.
It should crash after 2-3 attempts.

[shut escarp]

https://vxtwitter.com/mitocap_1216/status/2016100337401405902?s=20

三戸キャップ (@mitocap_1216)

プレステのメモリーカードを整理する時
#PlayStation

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 27, 2026, 10:45 AM

[ivory verge]

@dark mountain @dusk berry thanks ! I'll check it out in the next few days. Worst case scenario, we'll have to live without mirumiru 😅

[ivory verge]

for now version without change for MiruMiru

[rose ermine]

If that's a gulikit elves 2 pro (I say pro because of the colour scheme), I suspect that the issue might be related to the circularity being too good - one of its selling points is the drift free sticks. So, I'm not sure what it's like with ps1 or ps2 controllers, but ps3 controllers have very "square" circularity, ie diagonals go way past the edge of the circle to basically a corner of a square. Some games even expect these excessive values, including some big ones like Ratchet and Clank. Anyway, you could test if this is the issue by using the 150% stick sensitivity setting that your controller has. According to the manual, you hold the little gear button and press the l3 or r3 button depending on what stick you want to change. One vibration indicates 50% sensitivity mode, two vibrations is 100% and three vibrations is 150%

[ivory verge]

@dark mountain @dusk berry please try this

[dusk berry]

ok, 5 minutes please

No problem

Its fine now

[ivory verge]

thanks for testing !

[dark mountain]

Fine for me too on the SS1.

[ivory verge]

thanks!

please try MiruMiru too 😄

To be honest, it's costing me too much of my health. These fixes are causing too much stress.

I need a break

please test more this core

with other games

[dark mountain]

I know, only too well, that's already so much from you to fix these games.

OKay, I will take some time later tonight, thanks you so much for what you have done.

[ivory verge]

Thank you all for your support and help

[dusk berry]

where I can get it?

@dark mountain where is the iso?

[proven seal]

[dark mountain]

I can't help for providing any ISO, as it violates all rules here, and I will test the MiruMiru demos later today.
There are also installed on my machines.

[dusk berry]

ok

[dusk berry]

Sorry

[proven seal]

lol, no worries

[dusk berry]

i found the game

5 minutes please

[ivory verge]

mirumiru vol 1 , disc 2

[dusk berry]

yes

Other test?

[ivory verge]

thank You!

[dusk berry]

But is this demo only vids it
Has demo games?

I only see demo vídeos

[ivory verge]

yes correct, only vids

[dusk berry]

Ok. At first, not problems with the vídeos

[dark mountain]

I will check the other MiruMiru discs too.

[dusk berry]

Ok

[abstract drift]

please dont feel bad, remember rama is still working on xstation after 5+ years, PSX is the wild west 😛

[somber steppe]

There haven't been updates on the github for almost 3 years, is it really being worked on? 🤯

[abstract drift]

xstation? yeah there was a beta late last year

[dark mountain]

I need to test that immediately on the core! Just for fun.

[dusk berry]

10 minutes

[dark mountain]

It's a simulation game, like Theme Park.
Fully in Japanese.
I just like the name of the game and for joking around.

[dusk berry]

with psx_gt2 test core?

The game doesnt load

On stable core, it loads

on 26th inestable, it doesnt load

[dark mountain]

The MiruMiru demo discs are working on psx_gt2 test core.
I will check BurgerBurger too.

[dusk berry]

burger doesnt load

[dark mountain]

I can confirm, I'm checking all the previous builds.

[ivory verge]

it's broken with 20260113 , fix for Parodius

works with turbo low

must be very sensitive

[dark mountain]

So, we have a workaround.

[tropic stratus]

It always seemed that 90% of the open github issues came from the CD subsystem and now this seems to be kind of proven.

[ivory verge]

Yes, it's very complex, and there are many games that do strange things.

[languid geyser]

Seems to be working perfectly now with it set to 150%! Thanks!

[ivory verge]

burger burger is very timing sensitive , works with limit max cd speed or cd fast seek, cd speed x1, turbo low option. Unfortunately, I don't think I can fix it in this situation 🙁

[dark mountain]

No problem.

As long as we could have these workarounds.

[ivory verge]

It's not that I've given up. I'll check a few more things. In a few days, I'll make a pull request to fix the regression in GT2. Please continue testing. Thanks!

[tender tartan]

I suppose the endgame would be to implement low level CD-ROM controller. Have any emulator or ODE taken that step?

[stable perch]

To a certain degree; PC Engine implements the SCSI processor in FPGA, but the way it's implemented in reality (i.e. real hardware) is a bit non-SCSI ish, so it's not a 100% match

A couple of weird edge cases don't behave as you might expect, and may not be implemented 100% identically

[rose ermine]

Glad it helped. Good to know my controller hyperfixation autism is kicking in too 😅

[serene nebula]

You mean “deep worldly knowledge”

[forest trench]

This is what Rama has been working on for the past few years with MStation; a drop-in PSX cd-drive replacement

[wild sinew]

How does that work? I thought that the way the PSX is set up, any ODE would require soldering but apparently this doesn't.

[ivory verge]

@dark mountain @dusk berry please try this (Burger Burger)

Crime Crackers , Jikkyo 95, Parodius , Burger Burger , GT2, mirumiru works fine for me

thanks!

[dusk berry]

5 minutes, master chief

[dusk berry]

I tested: crackers, jikkyo 95 (rev 1), burger, gt2 and mirumiru. I did a fast play and i dont see problems

[ivory verge]

Many thanks!

[dusk berry]

Is This last build has the mgs codec fix?

[ivory verge]

No sorry

[dusk berry]

Ok

[dark mountain]

Fine for me too.

I can't take for today more than 2-3 mins for testing each title.
But I didn't see anything out of order here.

[ivory verge]

thanks Z ❤️

[deft sphinx]

Would emulating the CD drive at a low level be feasible? Would there be space for that if it was?

[dark mountain]

We need the dumps of the chips on the CD controller in order to RE them.
When I helped Stenzek on beta testing during the beginning of Duckstation years ago, these dumps weren't done at all.
I don't know if the situation changed since then.

Even before talking about space.

[deft sphinx]

Oh, interesting. I am going to assume that dumping these is a lot more complex than older chips

[serene nebula]

Thanks dude

[runic edge]

Playstation is really, really, really cool.

[ruby ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[surreal fable]

I am having an issue with the settings for this core. I can view and play games and such when using VGA...but when i try to use hdmi i get no signal. is there a fix for this?

edit: and hdmi works fine on other cores like nes snes n64 and such

[forest trench]

Presumably, it would entail unplugging the power and ribbon cables, replacing the CD drive with the ODE, then reattaching the cables.

[wild sinew]

Yes, but there was some reason why previous odes couldn't do that.

Googling this up apparently the drive controller is built in to the motherboard. I guess emulating low level means you can use the existing drive controller?

[tropic stratus]

@dull wedge works now, should behave as the documentation states

[dull wedge]

Amazing

Have you tried with the Spyro mod as well, that's how you know a 100%

I have the normal exception handler re-arm the breakpoints, it cycles 2 of em in a row

I could ask someone to test I suppose if the update is online

[tropic stratus]

No, didn't test that. Maybe someone else wants to do that. To be honest, i'm not familiar enough with the game to even understand what is supposed to happen.

[austere otter]

How do I test this?

With Spyro I mean

[austere otter]

I get no video with that rbf. Only audio and a white screeen

[tropic stratus]

strange, would guess either upload broke, download broke or your mister needs a new boot

[ivory verge]

works fine for me

[ivory verge]

But I can't check Spyro because I have no idea what it's about 😄

[abstract drift]

i'm not 100% sure myself i think its this thing?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/i-tricked-the-ps1-hardware-to-ignore-spyro-3s-uncrackable-security.678736/

i dont see like, an actual patch file just a really long code so idk

[tropic stratus]

one could make a cheat file with it, but i think it's better if @dull wedge provides a patch file, checksum of the base .bin and instructions on what to do.
This will make sure we are not debugging something completly different, because the patched .bin can be verified with Duckstation.

[dull wedge]

Whomever I need to provide a link for, I can

If one knows how to do the double jump in Spyro 2, my Spyro 3 patch adds that back in, by leveraging the cop0 debug options to stay undetectable

[dull wedge]

It's a ppf

I'll ask try to ask someone that has direct access to it as well to test it. If anyone else is willing, I don't mind sharing in dm's either to save some hassle. But for strict legal reasons here, I provide a ppf only

[light ravine]

The low-effort test looks good! Now to check Spyro 3

[light ravine]

Can confirm the Spyro 3 double-jump exploit works on this

[light ravine]

Good work, Robert 🤝

[dull wedge]

That's great! Now people should be able to double jump without the game pestering the player, and the method can even be used to bypass other things as well.

It's cool having contributed to this by providing the testing material, the core passing the test is not insignificant, most emulators absolutely fail it by either not understanding memory mirrors and ending on a black screen, or landing on a red one by failing the cop0 execution watchpoint/breakpoint

[rare gyro]

This is what I love about MiSTer cores, even when they seem complete, people keep finding ways to make it just a little more accurate

[tacit fox]

MiSTer wins again!

[lyric pagoda]

Thanks, I used it on PS1 with xstation works very well.

[tropic stratus]

Thank you very much, it's now in the main branch and will be in all upcoming builds.

[dull wedge]

I'll send you the invoice later for the Super Station One 😜

[austere otter]

Dude, Robert gave us the PSX core for free. He ain’t paying for no one’s Super Station One. I know you’re joking but this one doesn’t sit right.

[chilly kraken]

Unicorn is fine. They have been working with Robert on this latest fix. Appreciate you looking out for the devs.

[ivory verge]

Hi, I would be very grateful for your help in testing this core #test-builds message I would like to close this topic. I no longer feel up to working on further improvements to the PSX core.I feel too much pressure. I have tested over 100 games, including boot, intro, and gameplay, including sensitive games such as Parodius, Crime Crackers, Jikkyō 95, Burger Burger, Ogre Battle, and others. Unfortunately, the days when every change was tested by about 200 people are long gone (which is not surprising), and I am unable to detect all the bugs on my own. If more regressions appear, I will revert to the original working code without these changes. Please test your favorite games and let me know. Thank you for your help.

[dark mountain]

I could check more these changes too, but I'm not at home until several days.

[little frost]

I presume the latest unstable doesn't have kuba's fixes yet?

[dark mountain]

Nope.
Only the recent changes from Robert.

[dull wedge]

For clarity: I contributed by creating the testing program used during development.

I do not own a MiSTer FPGA yet, this contribution was made for the community.

The invoice comment was clearly a joke.

[slender junco]

Thank you for the contribution’s. I appreciate it and know many others do as well.

[dull wedge]

You're most welcome ^^

[dusk berry]

Im playing resident evil 3 usa to complete and i dont see problems

[ivory verge]

Thanks ❤️

[dusk berry]

I have completed the game, all ok

[ivory verge]

Merci 🙏

[austere otter]

I usually have my MiSTer connected to my CRT, but now I´m running it on my LCD TV and I think the aspect ratio with fixed blanks are to narrow horizontally. Shouldnt the aspect ratio be corrected with fixed blanks?

The Sony logo in bios boot is squished

[hallow quartz]

The bios diamond should be a little squished iirc, vertical crop on 224/270 will push the image back out to 4:3. PS1 is such an awkward console as each resolution will look different depending on the settings used, fixed blacks on with 224 vertical crop is the best middle ground imho.

[austere otter]

thanks but I´m comparing the image to a real CRT and the logo is not squished on a CRT. Also button icons are not round in MotorHead

[hallow quartz]

I've seen pictures of CRT's with square diamond and squished diamond. A setting that will give round icons in motorhead could give non round assets in other games, it all depends on the resolution.

Mednafen and Duckstation have squished diamond at default settings last time I checked too.

[austere otter]

The aspect ration should be corrected to how it should look on a CRT. If you are comparing how mednafen and duchstation look on a pc monitor is not representative of how it should look. Unless those emulators have corrected for the aspect ratio.
It could be though that some games were corrected to a CRT when they developed the game and then today on flat screens it looks squizhed.
But I thought the fixed Blanks corrected the aspect ratio to how it should look.
By disabling fixed HBlanks it looks more correct but slightly to wide

[hallow quartz]

https://static0.howtogeekimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/wm/2025/08/img_1474.jpg?q=70&fit=crop&w=1568&h=1078&dpr=1

[obtuse dune]

the Bios screen should't look squished. It's 640x480i, which is exact 4:3.

[hallow quartz]

My guess is that there is horizontal padding on some resolutions and if you don't account for it then you get an image that is slightly too wide on others, happy to be corrected on that.

[hallow quartz]

So what is the reasoning for all these emulation options adding horizontal padding? Genuinely curious.

[austere otter]

That picture is not representative of how the logo looks on a CRT, since the geometry is not correctly setup. It has black bars both left and right. And still it looks wider than on my MiSTer

[austere otter]

I checked my LCD TV if maybe I had the wrong setting, but its on Gaming mode so shouldnt scale anything wrong

[chilly kraken]

Just a friendly reminder that if you suspect there is an issue with the core, please make sure an issue is on GitHub for it (and create an issue if one does not exist)

Discord is ephemeral

[austere otter]

yes, I just wanted to get people that also are used to CRTs to chime in if they also noticed it

[somber steppe]

What does that word mean?

[chilly kraken]

Like “temporary” or “not lasting”

Easy for stuff to get lost in a channel

[somber steppe]

Thank you. Today I learned something.

[hallow quartz]

It's something I have seen been discussesd for many, many years when it comes to emulation of the PS1. I think it's so that all resolutions fit within a fixed 4:3 aspect ratio, the bios has horizontal padding that normally would be pushed into in overscan but is now visible in that fixed resolution space. It's ether that or you have the aspect ratio for other resolutions potentially be outside of 4:3 as you noticed.

[austere otter]

For reference here is how the logo looks on my LCD-TV, with fixed Blanks ON

[lusty coral]

Want me to check mine? Although I use integer scaling so I have no black bars either side. (If I don’t use the fixed blank modes)

[austere otter]

yes, since a CRT is not a pixel display what ever resolution you send it will stretch to the 4:3 aspect ratio of the display (as long as the signal is compatible). So if you want to have the true experience the emulated result must stretch/shrink to a 4:3 container.

[hallow quartz]

What would be ideal is if the fixed blanks setting and vertical crop settings could be separately applied for 240p and 480i instead of the settings working on both.

[austere otter]

If you could just to rule out I have something wrong with my TV or mister settings

[lusty coral]

Sure il need a few mins. Il do it without the fixed blank modes enabled

[austere otter]

analogue output bypasses the scaler so it doesnt matter the scaling settings in the core. Never mind I misunderstood first.

[lusty coral]

I always used to have the vblank modes enabled thinking it would stop the internal resolution changing.

But the other day I tested without the blank modes enabled and got a full screen picture. And I hardly had any internal resolution changes

But that’s probably down to the integer scaling I have enabled. I’m not sure. I’m an absolute noob when it comes to all this resolution stuff

[austere otter]

yes to my eye the aspect ratio is better without fixed Blanks

[austere otter]

use with fixed blanks because thats what I used in my pic

[lusty coral]

Okay dokey. Il enable both when I boot up my mister soon

[austere otter]

this is according to the readme:

Fixed Hblank as well as Fixed Vblank can help delivering correct aspect rations and keeping the screen in sync with e.g. shaking animations. Both also offer crop options for games that depend on CRT viewports to hide artifacts at the edge of the image.

so it is recommended to have them on on an LCD TV

[lusty coral]

So my tv is a 4k 65inch qled + mini led. I have 1440p video mode on mister with hdr,vrr and integer scaling

Just loading up psx core now

Resolution is 1952x1430p for the psx core. Just taking photo now

[obtuse dune]

Fixed horizontal Vblank gives you a 704x480i though.

[lusty coral]

Unsure if that helps xD

[austere otter]

I enable both V and H Blanks

[lusty coral]

It does seem slightly wider/stretched if I disable fixed blank

[austere otter]

oh, lol! Thats not 4:3 aspect ratio 😂

[obtuse dune]

Vblank fixed only gives you a 640x480i.

[austere otter]

so are you saying you shouldnt use both H & V Blanks at once?

[lusty coral]

That’s it without the v and h blank enabled

But from my eyes. It seems like when I have fixed h blank disabled. The text is ever so slightly wider

[austere otter]

please take a shot with the Aspect ratio set to "Original" in the Video settings

[lusty coral]

Maybe stretched?

[austere otter]

also if you can take a picture on the Sony logo

[lusty coral]

Aspect ratio is original

I’m guessing you want me to disable integer scaling?

[austere otter]

how is it original if you have 16:9 aspect ratio?

[lusty coral]

With integer scaling?

[austere otter]

No, I want you to have integer scaling and fixed H & V Blanks

[obtuse dune]

This emulates a physical 4:3 screen (Fixed VBlank on, Fixed HBlack off)

[lusty coral]

Then yeah

[obtuse dune]

looks good to me

[austere otter]

that looks correct to my eye and wider than on my pic

[obtuse dune]

The Mister doesn't allow free form scaling, it's much easier to set this with an external scaler like the Tink.

[austere otter]

yeah, maybe this is not solvable with current scaling options in MiSTer.

[austere otter]

why is your image stretched?

[lusty coral]

Both blanks enabled, aspect ratio normal

Only thing I can think of is integer scaling

The psx core for me is outputting 1952p x 1440p

If it isn’t the video scaling mode I use, then I dont know sorry

[austere otter]

Its just it doesnt look correct in your pictures. It looks like the image is stretched wide

[lusty coral]

If I use the full screen mode. I get a resolution of 2560x1440p

[obtuse dune]

The PSX core doesn't do a 4:3 auto correction

[lusty coral]

Just noticed if I use the widescreen hack 3:2 mode, it looks nice

[austere otter]

Well, I will go back to my CRT in a week so will not have to deal with it. But not sure if I should raise an issue on github

I just booted Street Fighter Alpha 2 and it looks correct with the same settings.

[obtuse dune]

For an integer scale i have to enabel 1:1 Square Pixel via Tink for the aspect ratio correction, then it looks fine too.

[austere otter]

Hopefully woozle will have a morph board for the MiSTer soon and it would fix this as well as deinterlacing

[hallow quartz]

If you don't raise a ticket I might, think a seperate blanks option for both 480i and 240p would be a potential solution, no harm in asking.

[obtuse dune]

Again, Fixed VBlank only

Fixed HBlank works now too, with 1:1 Square Pixels enabled.

Of course for this Bios screen it just adds a litte black border left/right, no squishing.

[lusty coral]

Does my image really look stretched?

[lusty coral]

. This one

[obtuse dune]

It's horizontally stretched. 1920x1440 would be 4:3

[lusty coral]

Oh right

Reckon if I drop my video mode to 1080p. Would that solve it?

(Absolute noob with scaling and resolutions I am)

[austere otter]

it shouldnt matter if you have integer scaleing on

[obtuse dune]

No, not really. Try video mode 12 in the mister.ini =1920x1440@60

But i don't know how the internal mister scaler will scale it on your TV.

Might look different

[lusty coral]

Video mode 12? Ok il try that now

Whatever now solves this stretching mode il be happy. I can’t unsee it now

[austere otter]

anyways, thanks guys for checking! Not sure I will raise an issue since not sure how to articulate this and if its even an "issue" or just the way PSX resolutions work on modern fixed pixel displays

[lusty coral]

Right set it to 12

[obtuse dune]

1080p =1440x1080p, 2160p = 2880x2160p. This is what you need to mimic a physical 4:3 screen from back then. 1920x1440 work fine on displays that support this.

[lusty coral]

And with integer scaling enabled. It’s 1304x960

[austere otter]

Still too wide

[lusty coral]

[obtuse dune]

Try vscale_mode=5 (or maybe 1 or 4)

[dull wedge]

You trying the double jump patch?

[lusty coral]

No. It just got pointed out to me earlier I have a stretched image

My v scale mode was on 4

Il try 5

(I picked 4 before as it said good for 4k displays)

[dull wedge]

Playing stretched is a crime in some places

[lusty coral]

I didn’t mean too 🙁

[dull wedge]

No worries

I speak from experience, I had a guy harras me and my entire family because of it

Long and strange story, in short, a weirdo was stalking me

[lusty coral]

I can’t tell the difference anymore. That’s with video mode 12 and v scale 5

[austere otter]

I wonder if your tv does some zooming or something. Can you confirm you have these settings

[lusty coral]

Ahhhh

I give up

[lusty coral]

I didn’t have v integer

[austere otter]

Do it

[lusty coral]

That’s with the scale set to v integer

[austere otter]

Lol

[lusty coral]

https://tenor.com/view/given-up-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-9650246926252591669

[austere otter]

Still too wide. Can you post your video settings

[lusty coral]

I have video mode 12, v scale 5

[austere otter]

Let me check what I have in my ini file

[lusty coral]

I’ve checked my tvs display settings. It’s been set to 16:9.

[austere otter]

Yes so is mine

[lusty coral]

I’m guessing that’s correct?

[austere otter]

These are my settings

[austere otter]

That looks ”correct” but squished compared to a CRT. But that’s how it looks on my LCD TV

[lusty coral]

That’s if I set my tv to manually display it as 4:3

[austere otter]

Huh, maybe that’s the trick on your TV. It’s weird because on mine I have it on 16:9

[lusty coral]

I honestly do not know. Just going to try v scale 0

Woah

Hold the phone

That’s with v scale mode 0

[chilly kraken]

You want 1

[lusty coral]

That finally looks somewhat not stretched

[chilly kraken]

For accuracy

[lusty coral]

1? I thought integer scaling would be better overall

As video mode 4 has a little text saying (good for 4k displays)

Il have to take a break for a bit, but il be back soon and try video scale 1

[obtuse dune]

As long as your TV OSD shows 1920x1440 it should be ok (which is exactly 4:3), but the vscale settings influences the output of course.

[tender tartan]

You can’t force both vertical and horizontal integer scaling and have correct PAR, except when the original image has 1:1, 2:1 or similar PAR. Only forcing vertical can work nicely.

[lusty coral]

Was just testing video mode 14 again. But with v scale set to 1

I’m guessing the thumbs up means it looks correct?

[ivory verge]

Looks good for me 🙂

[lusty coral]

(I think all of this is just proving how bad my eyesight is and my brain. And there’s me attempting to build a server to backup all my 4k blu rays)

I’m better off sticking to dvds

[chilly kraken]

1 is integer scaling. 0 is scaled to screen height

[lusty coral]

Right, ok

[obtuse dune]

Now load up the 240p test suite - test pattern -> linearity. 😈

[lusty coral]

(I cant tell if this is a joke or you want me to actually do it xD)

[obtuse dune]

We want to see your perfect circle!

320x240 NTSC

[lusty coral]

Does update all include that script?

(Im guessing its a script)

[obtuse dune]

No, it's a CD Image for the PSX. A suite for screen calibration

https://github.com/filipalac/240pTestSuite-PS1

[lusty coral]

I hope it’s a perfect circle

Or passes the test

Uh oh

I’m guessing that’s fine?

Yall are making me go down a rabbit hole

[obtuse dune]

Looks good

[lusty coral]

Yeah. Thank you for all your help. Seems like the plan is to leave it on v scale 1

[obtuse dune]

For the PSX, maybe. But integer resolution scaling has some advantages too. Especially when you want to achieve nearly a fullscreen for some TATE mode Arcade games.

[scenic ledge]

The Japan stuff arrived in preparation of the Superstation

Let's see if I can get that baby to work

The TV is waiting

[ivory verge]

Nice!

[obtuse dune]

One thing though: This video mode 14 is just horizontal pixel repetition, because a real 2560x1440p resolution exceeds the Mister HDMI bandwith limit. It's actually a 1280x1440p resolution where 1280 is doubled. Fine if you don't use CRT masks. They look very coarsed in that resolution.

[pale sigil]

hi all - is there a known issue with the psx core and Parasite Eve 2? after the boss in ||Dryfield|| i get stuck on a white screen

[chilly kraken]

there are some issues with parasite eve 2, but I can’t remember if that is one. Do you have a save state that others can test with?

[pale sigil]

i did make a save state at the beginning of the cutscene, yes. where is it on the SD card? i've never shared a save state

[chilly kraken]

should be in /media/fat/savestates

(/media/fat may be the root of your SD card depending on what OS your mounting it on)

[pale sigil]

I'll also give the latest psx nightly a shot

[chilly kraken]

try [this one](#test-builds message) if you don’t mind

[serene nebula]

Y’all got busy in here

[pale sigil]

no dice unfortunately, but thanks for the tip

[clear rock]

All I know is that Spyro looked wrong when not set to wide Integer Scaling based on the image on earth at boot only looking round on that setting

... Over HDMI

[pale sigil]

for posterity: was able to get past the freeze using duck station

[dull wedge]

Parasite Eve 2 is like the end boss of testing compatibillity. Emulators often can't fully emulate it properly, crashes happening even on a real console with a chip. Savegame corruption (actually made a patch/cheat for that so it doesn't happen anymore)

[digital zinc]

I finished parasite eve 2 on the core last year without issues except that I had to suffer through parasite eve 2

[rancid anchor]

on the topic of parasite eve, I'm playing 1 right now, and can't seem to get through the disc swap

I have both discs in a single folder, all I should have to do is load the second disc from the menu when on the "insert disc 2" screen?

I've also tried toggling open/close the tray in the menu, doesn't seem to trigger anything

nevermind -- was the cue file

[abstract drift]

hm... i completed PE2 a while back but i can't remember if it was on the core or real hardware

[somber steppe]

I think @sinful bloom played pe1 recently for Christmas and should know if there were any issues. Sorry if I remember the wrong guy.

[ivory verge]

#1046940919607345272 message it's resolved

[sinful bloom]

sorry, I dropped the game and didn't make to disc2

[somber steppe]

Sorry I'm still learning how to read. 😅

[sinful bloom]

I need to do another playthrough and NOT do automatics

that class of weapons is a trap

[somber steppe]

You should!

I like pistols best.

[sinful bloom]

I was literally stuck beating bosses with the police baton

[somber steppe]

There was something when you gather like 200 junk from crows in central park you can get the best weapon in the game.

There is also a dungeon that's exclusive to ng+ and it's really fun to make the ultimate weapon with all of the best abilities.

[serene nebula]

So everyone who had a PS1 in the 90s, how did it feel to be on the winning team?

[sinful bloom]

I had no idea there was a winning team

I didn't even know N64 and Saturn were a thing

[serene nebula]

When you’re so far ahead of everyone, it can sometimes feel lonely

[mortal oracle]

The only time I was ever on the winning team, until PS4 gen

[serene nebula]

I was always on the winning team because what I like is winning

[mortal oracle]

Master system, Mega Drive, PS1, Dreamcast, Xbox, PS3, PS4, XSX… my primary consoles during each gen

I consistently picked badly

[chilly kraken]

mega drive was the winning team - don’t let anyone else tell you it wasn’t

[somber steppe]

I remember playing ff7 and ff8 on the psx and believing this series could never go bad.

[rancid anchor]

around the time the n64/psx came out I really got into pc gaming, especially the backlog of games I had missed out on

spent a lot of time in #oldwarez, lol

[lusty coral]

Cheers mate, il probably set it back to 1280x1440p then. Much appreciated

[tulip moat]

All I thought of was "Wow video games!"

[somber steppe]

One of the very first psx games I ever played was hogs of war or Frontschweine, as we call it. Didn't play it since then and been meaning to ever since.

[somber steppe]

I was poor.

||I am poor. 😭 ||

Iirc the gameplay was basically valkyria chronicles before valkyria chronicles.

[mortal oracle]

It’s a good game

With Rik Mayall!

[somber steppe]

My favorite character was ligma.

[mortal oracle]

Ur my favourite character

[ivory verge]

please try this core

[somber steppe]

Ligma balls!! 🤣

[mortal oracle]

Kuba’s back, baby!

[ivory verge]

Two worlds

Some games use the CD pause command in different ways. Parasite Eve II pauses the CD very early, while the disc is still getting ready, and expects the pause to be accepted so loading can stop cleanly. Duke Nukem and the MiruMiru demo pause slightly later and expect the CD to refuse the pause until at least a small piece of data has been read, otherwise music or data breaks.

I remembered today that Robert fixed it three years ago. https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/commit/6eb4bc7f087d138842a1e92479401ba86003fefa

I also made a change in the pause, which is a prerequisite for the proper functioning of Duke Nukem TM (music) and MiruMiru. There is no other workaround for this problem. This broke the only game, Parasite Eve II.

Now these two cases are covered and it should be fine.

[pale sigil]

Interesting, thank you for looking into it. I was able to get past the screen on duckstation then transfer back to mister, but I actually encountered another freeze after the prompt to insert disc 2

So I can try both those cases in a few hours

[clear rock]

I got one after I got a N64 actually...

[ivory verge]

Disc 2 , works fine

[languid geyser]

Games were so cheap, I got weird shit just to try it out.

“Yo, this red robot with long blonde hair looks hot! Let me try this out.” And then I became a lifelong fan of the Mega Man franchise.

I had Tomba, Gex 1-3, Crash 1-3, Crash Team Racing, Spyro 1-3, Armored Core, Spider-Man 1&2, Wing Commander 3, Colony Wars, Final Fantasy VII and VIII (borrowed IX), Rock em Sock em Robots, Gundam Battle Assault 1-2, Mega Man 8, Mega Man Legends 1-2, Mega Man X4-6, Guardian’s Crusade, Toy Story 2, Tekken 3, Medieval, Bubsy 3D, a ton of demo discs, and more that I can’t remember at the moment.

[dull wedge]

[Parasite Eve 2][NTSC-U]

#Disable memory card corruption checksum
D0032B3E 1062
80032B3E 1000

So, usually when you save the game with cheats on, there is a chance it will corrupt your save for the next boot. Either due to an overflow that the memory reads as a corruption, or as some kind of anti-tamper measurement. However, this code will completely disable it

[clear rock]

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-fighting-for-zero-iris-mega-man-mega-man-x4-gif-11050507854088787617

[clear rock]

I am not clear on how the chat system works (I only tried it once and it just... didn't work for me) but could this itself be added as a cheat?

[dull wedge]

It depends, this is basic gameshark format. Might need to be formated a little different for different cheat systems.

01 00 00 00 3E 2B 03 80 62 10 00 00 00 10 00 00

Is what it should look like for the PSX core according to chatgpt

[serene nebula]

lol those games aren’t good

[manic citrus]

this is going to be a meme where you try to put as much time as you can before the THEY'RE GREAT! follow up

Groo the Wanderer did this gag decades ago, Robby!

[languid geyser]

THEY’RE GREAT

[serene nebula]

Hell yeah!

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gif-17172043193563962893

[pale sigil]

this didn't work for me on the stock core or the one you linked. at the end of Disc 1 i get the insert disc 2 screen. after loading disc 2, I get the intro text crawl, and then a black screen

[pale sigil]

oh, interesting. disc 2 just doesn't load at all for me 🤔

ok, disc 2 was a bad rom so that was just on my end. your fix worked for that boss fight. thank you 🙂 🍻

[forest trench]

Now_There's_A_Name_I've_Not_Heard_In_A_Long_Time.gif

[manic citrus]

what did she mean, slow of mind?

[ivory verge]

Thanks for checking!

[abstract drift]

shouldn't kuba really be yellow at this point

unless you just prefer the technomancer tag

[mortal oracle]

Kuba yellow wen

[runic edge]

All hail our golden brethren!!!

https://tenor.com/view/cult-the-craft-ritual-gif-11800002

[mortal oracle]

Maybe we need a colour to distinguish between the single sdram peasants and the dual sdram elites

[runic edge]

I think you got them wrong way round

[somber steppe]

No it's correct. I double checked it twice

[runic edge]

You dual rammers have been brainwashed by "the man" brosef

You think you always need more and more

Just stop

Close your eyes

Breathe

And accept

https://tenor.com/view/spiritual-meditate-meditation-peace-zen-gif-11176079

[serene nebula]

Oh yeah, this Saturn game? Totally runs one frame faster with dual ram so instead of 12 fps it’s 13. Wow, can you imagine not having dual ram?

Wow, this Saturn game, that totally looks and plays better on the PS1, doesn’t have a flickering pixel with dual ram. Good investment am I right?

[somber steppe]

Close both our eyes? How about you install both your ram sticks instead.

[somber steppe]

Yes you are right. It is a good investment. Happy you finally see the light, brother. 🫂

[charred smelt]

Can we have a third colour for those who got dual sdram "not to have an empty slot"? 😄

[somber steppe]

No. Don't be ashamed of your dual ram superiority.

[serene nebula]

I know a new poll

[somber steppe]

Chad dual ram vs virgin single ram?

[runic edge]

Hmmm... your comments have shaken my belief in single ram superiority to its very core!!!

I find myself once again on the precipice

Of a purchase

[somber steppe]

This should help you: #general-banter message

[runic edge]

Luckily though I have a self imposed protection method that triggers whenever I consider altering the MiSTer in any way

I call it...

Extreme lazyness!

[somber steppe]

I got my mister prebuild since I'm so lazy. But it was with very cheap parts, so the fan of course died after a few months.

Just wait until yours dies to "beef it up" as my favorite dev keeps saying.

[runic edge]

Seriously tho, the actual reason I dont have dual ram is some vague recollection that somebody somewhere at some time said something about the digital io board not playing nice with some analogue signals sync wise or something.

[somber steppe]

I use an external scaler and an oled tv anyway. No space for an extra crt.

Also crts are tiny.

[runic edge]

This comment might have enraged me were it not for the fact that I happen to own a pvm-4300, the largest, rarest crt ever manufactured. With a 43 inch viewable screen bringing any 4:3 content beyond the horizon of even a 65 inch oled.

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[somber steppe]

I did the math, my 16:9 tv has 63" used when displaying 4:3 content.

43" is just pathetically small.

[runic edge]

I cant keep up this charade

My crt is only 21 inches

Im sorry

Anywhoo I also have a big oled

But the MiSTer is stuck in an arcade cab thing

I think I need...

ANOTHER MiSTer!!

[somber steppe]

This is true. And do you know what this second mister needs? Dual ram.

[runic edge]

Of course!!

The solution to every problem

More misters and more ram!!

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[mortal oracle]

You can never have too many sticks of ram

||Unless you have more than two, at which point you need to buy more MiSTers||

[ivory verge]

I have two sdrams in every Mister 😅

[somber steppe]

They don't even need to be plugged in, just rattle around in the case.

[lusty coral]

Right me again

Just confirming

Those are not stretched right?

[ivory verge]

Well...

[lusty coral]

Oh don’t give me the dots. I haven’t changed anything apart from going with video mode 12

[lusty coral]

That’s video mode 12, integer scaling 1. With both blank modes enabled

🙁

[lusty coral]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-ahhh-scared-nervous-shouts-gif-16852865

I’m going back to building Lego

All I changed from the other day was trying out video mode 12 instead of 14

[somber steppe]

Do you wish to see my space ships?

[lusty coral]

I wish to cry (but for sure!)

[somber steppe]

I hope this brings you pleasure. Legos are so much fun.

[manic citrus]

yes, you changed from a 16:9 AR to a 4:3. your TV is probably deciding it needs to stretch 4:3

[obtuse dune]

Probably. A lot of TVs are that stupid when you run a 4:3 resolution on it.

[lusty coral]

Right. I’ve gone back to video mode 14. This worked fine the other day

[obtuse dune]

Video Mode 14 will work better in that regard. But as i mentioned earlier this is horizontal pixel repepition.

It's actually 1280x1440p then.

[lusty coral]

Right we are back. It’s not stretched anymore

[lusty coral]

They look amazing. I’m waiting for my alternative brick Orthanc tower to be delivered

[somber steppe]

Hope it's better than the lego baradur tower. 🙏 that one is very underwhelming for 500$

[lusty coral]

Beautiful

[obtuse dune]

With CRT masks probably not so much.

[lusty coral]

Yeah that’s what I wanted to try 12 like you suggested. But for some reason my tv does not like it

[obtuse dune]

Which brand?

[lusty coral]

TCL qm8b

[obtuse dune]

Does it have various options for the aspect ratio? Like 16:9, 4:3 or "Original" or something?

[lusty coral]

See I checked this the other day when I was talking to WickaWacka about it.

I have 16:9 and 4:3 options. (Aswell as various other sort of zooms)

But nothing original

[obtuse dune]

And 4:3 didn't work? It just stretches the 1920x1440p resolution?

[lusty coral]

If I set it to 4:3 manually it works. But wouldn’t I have to change it for every core?

[obtuse dune]

Well since it's a 16:9 TV you have to do it manually. Only an external scaler like the Tink would output it correctly, 4:3 centered within the 16:9 resolution. Well some PC monitors can do it automatically.

[lusty coral]

Right I see, interesting

I’m just unsure if it would be worth it buying a retro tink just for my mister. But thank you for explaining

[obtuse dune]

It's a dream combo for many reasons, but very expensive.

[lusty coral]

Retro tink 4k ce

£475 in the UK I can get one for

[obtuse dune]

Well that the top one

[lusty coral]

A 5x is £395

That is some serious money

[obtuse dune]

The CE version doesn't cost that much, right.

[lusty coral]

Oh I’m checking a franchise in the UK called CeX

As I’d probably have to trade in my Atari jaguar and mega sg for credit.

[obtuse dune]

If you don't need full CRT filters it's ok, just use the Mister directly.

[lusty coral]

Ok mate. I appreciate your advice. I do recall there was some mention in this discord of some sort of mister board for scaling stuff. If that ends up being a thing, I might wait for that

But until now il just keep with scanline medium filter

[lusty coral]

(I’m trying to keep this option in case my gpu dies)

[manic citrus]

just put the TV in 4:3 and run every core with video mode 12. they'll all output the same 1920x1440

[obtuse dune]

Some cores might act different though iirc, when they have "fullscreen" or "original" options for the aspect.

[manic citrus]

sure, but it won't require fiddling with the TV too much. guy has been playing cores stretched to 16:9 forever, it's probably ok to just put the TV in the right mode and move on

[mortal oracle]

Now I’m starting to wonder if I have the right settings

[manic citrus]

or just use 14, who cares if it is pixel repeat

[lusty coral]

Yeah, I’m slightly disappointed in that

Can’t believe I did that

[manic citrus]

it certainly doesn't necessitate going out and buying a tink to fix this

[obtuse dune]

As i said. CRT mask fans. But yes, if you don't need it the pixel repetition is just fine.

[lusty coral]

Il just leave it on 14 for now. Cheers you 2 for your tips and whatnot. I appreciate all advice

Good news is. It means I’ve got to replay the Resident Evil games without scaling

[obtuse dune]

The Tink has other perks for Mister. Proper HDR with correct colors, auto-crop, auto decimate, proper VRR options, MPRT BFI etc.

[mortal oracle]

You’re gonna be shocked at Jill before she was a sandwich

[somber steppe]

She's still a snack.

[spark ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/jill-valentine-re3-resident-evil-ps1-what-gif-16776102

[ruby tapir]

Was curious if anyone has been able to get Biohazard Gun Survivor working with a guncon over SNAC? I know only the Japanese version has guncon support and everything works except i can't fire the pistol. Apparently you're supposed to be able to shoot at the screen to fire the gun and then you shoot away from the screen to move forward, but no matter where i point the guncon my character just moves

the gun works fine when calibrating it in the menu so I'm not really sure what I'm missing 😔

[still palm]

does it work for other GC games? if yes maybe you could try tweaking brightness.that game was really dark

[ruby tapir]

every other gc game works flawless as far as i can tell

and like i said it doesn't seem like the calibration is off. I know there's a guncon patch for the US version so ig i could try that

[serene nebula]

yes try that, that should work

[clear rock]

I have 8 ||in an old workstation desktop that runs in quad-channel mode||

[lyric pagoda]

PAL version does as well

[serene nebula]

Hello thank you, we are pal? I am please. Hold hands?

[ruby tapir]

I did figure it out lol, had to max the contrast in my CRT's menu

[bright girder]

On the topic of guncon 1 and snac I’m having trouble getting time crisis 1 to work right.

Time crisis will get to certain points where there is flashing or the screen is dark and all the sudden I can’t hit anything no matter how hard I try, unless I just spam bullets and pray. CRT brightness is max, and my guncon sync line is hooked into the green component input in the back of my crt.

Other games seem to have no issue

[dense wharf]

have you tried plugging the guncon sync line into the snac adapter?

[serene nebula]

Gun bad, use bow arrow?

[sinful bloom]

alright, gimme some of the worst performing PS1 games

[hallow quartz]

Hanabi Fantast

[sinful bloom]

I can already happily say that 2XCPU core gives really good performance boost to Descent and Duke Nukem - Total Meltdown

[runic edge]

I suspect the photo diodes are starting to go bad in these guns.

[languid geyser]

Not familiar with a 2XCPU core. Is it similar to the 80hz and Turbo cores for N64?

[sinful bloom]

kind of

maybe not as drastic as that one

[languid geyser]

Hmm. I can see it in the pinned messages, so I’ll download and try it out today.

I doubt it will make the load times any faster in Xenogears, unfortunately.

[sinful bloom]

it won't

in fact I think it will make it worse

I had characters getting stuck in level geometry on duckstation

[languid geyser]

what does duckstation have to do with MiSTer?

[sinful bloom]

I had a few enhancements turned on which messed up the game, ages before I had MiSTer and I imagine boosting CPU is gonna wreck it

-# not that I am going to commit to incremental 1.5 hour binge sessions of Xenogears on MiSTer's 2XCPU core spread between 4 hours of blackout to find out

[languid geyser]

Well, guess it will be up to me then, because I have a xenogears playthrough in progress

[ivory verge]

nice game 🔥

[abstract drift]

quake2 runs well to start but runs incredible on 2x core

[ivory verge]

i'm trying now Rakugaki Showtime

I like these odd Japanese games

[clear rock]

You can already boost the CD read speeds in the standard PSX core

[shrewd pasture]

Certainly tempting.... I played need for speed III for the first time in 25 years and the PSX X2 core made it so much enjoyable (almost as I remember it with PC + Voodo graphics)

[languid geyser]

Game can crash randomly if you set it to 6x speed, which is the first speed at which you can notice any change at all in load times. Crashes immediately if you set it to x8 and load anything.

[ivory verge]

Try with limit max cd speed

[lost summit]

https://hackaday.com/2026/02/06/why-playstation-graphics-wobble-flicker-and-twitch/

[bright girder]

Perhaps, I hope not. Do you know the replacement part for that?

In any case, I tried it on a different crt in a different room and it worked fine. So that’s a relief that it had something to do with my specific set up or just the tv even.

[still palm]

last person fixed Biohazard by tweaking contrast

[bright girder]

That one worked fine for me, in fact everything I tested but the first time crisis worked, even the semi sequel on ps1

[abstract drift]

its probably a bit of crts getting dimmer, a bit of lenses yellowing, a bit of photo diodes aging out

possibly a bit of those specific sections of time crisis not being a great idea in the first place

[bright girder]

Admittedly while it’s nothing I can see that crt I had trouble with is beginning to fade. Mild geometry issues are starting to crop up

I only really noticed going through the service menu

[abstract drift]

there are sometimes capacitors involved too , in the lightgun i mean

there's just a lot to go wrong and very little tolerance

i can report if you use like, a modern lightgun that uses IR tracking, that section plays much better

and you could technically do that whilst still using a crt if you wanted

[bright girder]

That’s interesting, I just have the three guncons. I can at least confirm that guncon3 has no issues at all on crt or lcd

[sinful bloom]

anyway, time to play more depressing games on 2XCPU

[bright girder]

I am Japanese apparently

[timber flint]

I'm fine with playing these depressing ass games. Better than the majority of slop that gets released today

[sinful bloom]

That was in context to Nintendo 64 not doing so hot in comparison, so would you say the same to that?

[bright girder]

I also like to feel bad, and feel things lol

[mystic flare]

would it be fair to say he was a vile man who hated games

Iwata was loved, Yamauchi was feared

[slender junco]

That's why they must have released the Switch 2. That thing has made me seriously depressed. 🤣

[somber steppe]

People actually feared how much they loved Iwata, so he kinda played both sides.

[north oracle]

There is a few softlocks that can occur due to the game loading things too fast. Like Deus larva fight shifting camera, some cutscenes with fast text patch etc. I don't know if these occur on MiSTer but they will occur on a PS2 with fast disk but never on a real PS1. (the deus fight)

Would be nice to confirm

[lusty coral]

Duke nukem time to kill and land of the babes. There is even a setting in game to increase the game speed

Even with turbo set to max aswell as 2xcpu. The framerate fluctuates so much it feels horrible

[sinful bloom]

oh yeah, I played those, it's heinous and you'd rather play Zero Hour on corncore instead

not related to boosting performance but I just wanna know

anyone here actually played and completed Alien Resurrection on MiSTer?

is it broken here too?

the game is not "impossibly hard", it gets broken when you emulate it

and also what happens if you switch discs and use a bootstrap cheat

[ivory verge]

There was only one bug reported a few years ago, concerning spu. It has been fixed. I spent several hours playing the game and there were no problems.

[misty snow]

The backgrounds in SpongeBob SuperSponge don't look right :(

[proven seal]

this is a known issue, it seems https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/310

[misty snow]

My apologies for missing that then

[bright girder]

I actually went back to that first crt and tried playing it through composite/svideo and it worked fine.

So it was something about the way either my tv or my ini file was handling the component output

[forest robin]

I have a dumb question, im on the psx core and my virtual memory card is down to its last slot, what do I do?

[little frost]

if you put every game disc image in it’s own folder, the core will generate virtual cards on a per-game basis

[forest robin]

oh, wish id known that

can i resort all my games and keep save files?

[little frost]

multi-disc games should have all the images in the same folder

[forest robin]

ill go correct this problem now

[little frost]

does the ps1 bios have memory card management? I forget

[forest robin]

yea it does i think

[little frost]

I’m sure you can copy save files from your main memory card somehow and transfer them to new cards for each game you need

does the core have an option in the osd to load specific memory cards for slot 1 and slot 2? I think it does

[spark ermine]

Yea it does

[forest robin]

for each game folder does it have to match the iso name or can it be w/e?

[little frost]

does not have to match the iso names

[spark ermine]

You can also use chatgpt to make a bat script to transfer all your files to their own folders with same name

That's easiest, that's all I did

[forest robin]

wow, thanks!

[little frost]

after you’ve added the folders, I think all you’d need to do is launch the games you have saves for to create a new memory card for it. Then just launch the core into the bios and load your main card in slot 1 and then the new game card in slot 2. Transfer your save from card 1 over to card 2 and then repeat for each game…a bit tedious but shouldn’t be too bad? Maybe there’s an easier way, but I’m not sure

[lusty coral]

I basically done the same, but I used save states

Made a savestate. Moved the game to the correct folder, then loaded the savestate

[little frost]

oh yeah that works too

[forest robin]

another question but im looking for oem psx controllers, is non dualshock acceptable or do a ton of games use it? All I remember from being a kid was the RE 2 dualshock edition..can't recall if MGS did

well i guess that's more suited for the controller channel but oh well

[sinful bloom]

there's only fringe cases like Ape Escape that requires it

and that's the only one I know

the rest of the library is playable with a dpad

[forest robin]

ok

[sinful bloom]

RE2 dualshock edition is played through either the dpad or left stick

MGS is fine with dpad and there's no precise stuff like in MGS2

okay, so there's RC Stunt Copter that requires dualshock

it's a very hardcore (and stupid, and spiteful) RC Copter sim that treats dualshock as an RC controller

and there's Tiger Woods PGA Tour for.. swings?

you can try playing Alien Resurrection on non-dualshock, sure

and you're going to suffer

TIL Ace Combat 2 and 3 require sticks, you can't pilot the planes without them

[hallow quartz]

They don't require sticks, I played through both using the DPAD.

[sinful bloom]

fine then

[dull wedge]

Maybe this interests anyone

https://retrorgb.com/tomb-raider-analog-patch.html

I sometimes have people commision me for adding analog support to d-pad only games, so this is one of those projects

[somber steppe]

That looks sick. Gotta try it later.

[sinful bloom]

I gotta say, this requires a very specific version of TR1 to patch that isn't listed as "v1.1" by Redump

Rev 1 didn't work

yup, works great, with a release that doesn't have 57 separate tracks and instead has everything combined into a single .bin

[dull wedge]

Yeah, it is V1.1

There were more revisions later I believe, but they just switched out demos I believe, no real fixes

Here's another QOL improvement. One of my favorites. I made multiple versions, but having the scph1001 bios and running one of the Kernel versions is safest

https://romhackplaza.org/romhacks/resident-evil-quick-turn-auto-aim-edition-playstation/

It fixed the flamethrower bug, + adds quick turn to the game, works with aiming too, just gotta press R2, optionally there is auto-aim that a friend of mine added ported from the later versions

I could probably add analog support too at a later point in time. Making that quick turn was brutal, I work in raw asm

[runic edge]

Awesome

[sinful bloom]

great stuff

[abstract drift]

oh i somehow didn't realize you were the same guy from the RE patch, did you have any luck with adding quickknife?

[clear rock]

The official one, yes. If you are using the open source one that comes with the SuperStation, no, but you can replace that with the official one

[clear rock]

Yes, you can manually load memory cards too, I have done that to manage saves from a singel card to copy them to multiple ones

[clear rock]

Personally, I can't go back the stanard PSX controller. Even back when the DualShock was new and I only had it for a few months, the original controller felt like a way too light bootleg knockoff after using that. Also while there are only like, two games that require it, it's optionally supported in many games and I find the use of analod over a d-pad much better to play 3D games with

[sinful bloom]

Medal of Honor and Underground, for example

[bright girder]

I’ve been play testing analog mods for re1-3 made by backxdash on YouTube. You should get in touch with him.

[dull wedge]

I know him, he often credits me

Cool guy

[bright girder]

Oh okay awesome, it’d be great to have all those improvement features in one single hack one day for re 1-3

[dull wedge]

Not te RE1, but I have with RE3. Wouldn't be too different I suppose. My best RE mods are for RE3, emergency backup knife, danger mode power that vibrates controller in a heartbeat pulse, backup knife, a custom knife that steals enemy HP

[abstract drift]

nice does that re3 patch work on real hardware too?

[dull wedge]

Yes

I broke that game open for other modders, adding more space to it and disabling checksums specifically so it'd work on the real deal with added space

It is still superior to the PC version in many ways, more stable

If you're interested in RE mods specifically, I moderate the classic re modding discord with a bunch of cool modders

Can send ya an invite

[lusty coral]

A dream would be to run Resident Evil Randomizers on the core.

But I reckon that wouldn’t be possible. I like running RE3 og on PC with Biorand for randomised fun

[abstract drift]

yeah sure, have you got a link for your re3 patch too?

[abstract drift]

there are so many RE1 mods lol, i'm pretty sure one of them is that

maybe ultimate directors cut

[lusty coral]

Yep, I believe so. Also includes the text of blood on one of the walls

I have it on my mister

[quartz thunder]

I can’t find any links that work for ultimate anymore but this does very similar https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5837/

[abstract drift]

that one changes some rooms around and other stuff too

sorry dont click that it looks like all the links are busted

[still palm]

that one had the orginal music with uncut fmvs, and blood on the wall. The 2nd disc is cool too, it had battle mode and maze mode with all special fmvs

[still palm]

did someone do that?

[sinful bloom]

I don't know how would anyone do that

[still palm]

both games use 2d backgrounds, and 3d models run around on top of that. They mask off areas that you can run behind to give depth.

[abstract drift]

it would be pretty cool to see

possibly it would all be too visually noisy with mdec encoding+240p

[sinful bloom]

and they have different camera angles and they've expanded the mansion layout so you have to contrive a brick wall on the second floor

[abstract drift]

yeah it would be like making a whole new game really

not impossible but a huge project

[ivory verge]

RE 0 Demake is well done, but I think only a demo was created? I remember playing it, but I don't know if anyone worked on it after that.

[dull wedge]

I have the standard modders edition patch, people just add to it. However, most of my mods I released as codes too. Not sure what I still have, I think quick knife with hp steal and zombies being able to inflict virus

Ill send you a dm for the RE link, unless it is cool to post here

[abstract drift]

you can post patches here just not entire isos or anything

[proven seal]

Burger Burger

[serene nebula]

peeeeeeeeens

[runic edge]

Burger Burger regression 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔

The most delicious of all regressions

[ivory verge]

No Burger no fun 🙂

[somber steppe]

@mortal oracle McDonalds today, we have to help out with the Burgers.

[ivory verge]

I must point out one thing. Vigilante 8: 2nd Offense has the old problem again. By accidentally breaking Parasite Eve 2 when changing for pause, I fixed V8. It turns out that the 2023 fix for PE2 is problematic for this game. Now that I know where the real problem lies, I hope I can fix it. This is not a new regression; I simply restored the original functionality for PE2, thereby returning to the old bug for V8.

The comment left here already gave a hint, but it was too general https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/296#issuecomment-2870197466

Of course, the old workaround works, CPU turbo or fast seek.

[chilly kraken]

I just got done testing this so complain to me if you have trouble :p

[serene nebula]

HAW HAW HAW

[chilly kraken]

fasted forward in the west

[serene nebula]

well you beat me most of the time lol

[ivory verge]

I hope I have resolved all critical issues. @chilly kraken thanks for testing!

[clear rock]

So does this mean with this latest unstable both Vigilante and Parasite Eve 2 work?

[chilly kraken]

with the one linked, yes

[ivory verge]

Yes, I always try to include the core with all previous fixes.

[sinful bloom]

Okay, lemme accidentally find another game you broke

Jokes aside, great, I can resume my Parasite Eve binge

[clear rock]

Nice. IIRC fixing one kept breaking the other so I was worried if it would not be possible to have both working at the same time

So are there any other known issues now other than some graphical corruption in Chrono Cross and Spongebob? I know there are 46 open issues on the github but it seems like most of them are not an actual issue with the core

[ivory verge]

Nuclear Strike , Parappa the Rapper Japan version

[mortal oracle]

Virtual Pool

[ivory verge]

I spent about 40 hours on Parappa the Rapper, and maybe someday I'll succeed, but for now I think it's beyond repair.

[ivory verge]

I tried here too, but without success.

I try to focus only on the CD; if I start looking in every direction, I won't do anything right.

[mortal oracle]

I wouldn’t waste your time on that one unless you’re really motivated to do it just for fun

It’s hardly the most important game in the library 😅

I’m probably the only person who’d play it 😂

Robert and Kuba both looked into it and it seems very tough to diagnose

[ivory verge]

It's amazing how many different games expect behaviors that sometimes seem illogical. There are many things where the real drive simply ignores them, and the game works even though it's doing something that's not quite right.

[clear rock]

I see it as more of a "fixing an issue with an inaccuracy in the core" rather than "getting a game nobody wolud play to work", but I also understand proritizing what you can realistically work on and what people would be more interested in getting working

Also so what's broken in the Japanese version of Parappa?

[ivory verge]

Intro

[clear rock]

Reminds me of a popular old story of a programmer who had basically manually written the binary code of his program, and because of this allowed a loop with no end condition to still function because he knew where the computer (a really REALLY old one) would be on it's storage drum during that operation to read the variable, or something like that

[ivory verge]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/142

[mortal oracle]

Sure, but I was just making clear that when I mentioned it, I wasn’t making a “demand” or request of Kuba

[clear rock]

Well yeah, I am not either in case it wasn't clear, just wondering what was left on the core

[mortal oracle]

Very little that most people would notice imo

[ivory verge]

I don't think anyone is going to rewrite the game code. Constructor is completely playable, and the fact that some parts of the menu flash occasionally doesn't make it unplayable.

[clear rock]

Also reminds me of when I was trying to apply a fan patch to this one PSX game, which game in three parts, and the more parts I added the glitchier it became until it stopped booting at all... but it worked in some emulators, others threw read errors

Apparently, the patch files only changed the data directly on the game's files in the image, and didn't fix the error correction data associated with those areas of the disk that were desperately trying and failing to revert the changes the patches did, thinking they were errors

Had to use an app to re-calculate the error correction data after patching to get it to work right

[lyric pagoda]

I finished putting 700+ PS1 chd's onto their own respective folders, was a pain, but per game Mem cards were worth it

[clear rock]

You remembered NOT to put each disk of a multi-disk game in it's own folder though, right?

[lyric pagoda]

don't worry they are in one forlder

[clear rock]

I normally keep my games in bin/cue format on my PC and just make them chd for my mister, so I have a script atht converts games to CHD, puts them in a folder, and deletes the bin/cue

Using the optimized CHD settings in the sticky here

[tulip moat]

Why does only the Japanese version of Parappa the Rapper break?

[ivory verge]

The Japanese version does a different unique sequence stop -> seek -> play

[ivory verge]

The good news is that we no longer need a workaround in the form of a backward seek hack for Dave Mirra/Thrasher games.
It's all thanks to @dark mountain and his game Burger Burger 🍔 , which stopped working and forced me to analyze the code and make changes for INT1. The issue wasn't caused by backward seek itself, but by interrupt ordering.. There was a race condition between int1 and int3. Please test Dave Mirra / Remix again with latest test core or unstable and let me know. I'll be happy to remove this hack 🙂

[dark mountain]

Happy to say a big,fat joke and it finishes as a fix on the core. 😂

[ivory verge]

thanks Zet! 🍻

[dark mountain]

I hope that one day we will find a suitable solution for MGS and the reverb problem during the Codec discussions.

[tacit fox]

In kuba-j we trust! 🙏

[ivory verge]

I will definitely come back to this topic.

[feral swift]

Thank you for the continued work you guys are all putting into the core. It's all very much appreciated!

[mortal oracle]

I thought you’d resolved it a while back? Or was it just a small improvement rather than fix?

Nice to see the blue team working together ❤️

[ivory verge]

I only made a test core. I need to come back to this topic and do it properly. I just focused on other things.

[mortal oracle]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying

[tulip moat]

There's also a Burger Burger 2. Does that work?

We need to make sure the burgers are cooked properly. 🍔

[forest trench]

Burger Burger 2 2

[sand minnow]

I should check to see if the Midway Collection 2 with Burgertime works.

[ivory verge]

Burgers work, we are good😅

[proven seal]

just put the burgers in the bag bro

[clear rock]

What about fries?

[shut escarp]

What about her?

[scenic ledge]

The MGS fix is not merged on main yet, isn't it? At least there was a fix already, I don't remember. Or was it just some talk about the transmitter sounds being off or something?

[ivory verge]

No, it was only test core

[acoustic lily]

I've noticed that with the last two unstable versions, Gradius Gaiden intro video is freezing again (during the explosion part)

[ivory verge]

Darius Gaiden

Yes, that's how it will be for now. For now, it has to be that way so as not to disrupt other games where timings matters.

[acoustic lily]

Fair enough 😉

[ivory verge]

There is a simple workaround: turbo low, or fast seek option, cd speed 1x

if (calcSeekTime = '1') then

           addSeekTime <= '1';
           
           -- todo: research more accurate values
           if (diffLBA < 3) then
              seekTimeMul <= 3;
           elsif (diffLBA < 5) then
              seekTimeMul <= diffLBA;
           elsif (diffLBA < 32) then
              seekTimeMul <= 5;
           elsif (diffLBA < 75) then
              seekTimeMul <= 5 + diffLBA / 8; -- 5 .. 14
           elsif (diffLBA < 4500) then
              seekTimeMul <= 14 + diffLBA / 256; -- 14 .. 31
           else
              seekTimeMul <= 31 + diffLBA / 8192; -- 31 .. 73
           end if;
              
        end if;

I tried a few changes here and Darius Gaiden works

[acoustic lily]

i'll fiddle with those then

[clear rock]

Sucks that something has to break to fix something else 🙁

[ivory verge]

This game has always had this problem; the fact that it worked for the last few weeks was just luck.

[clear rock]

🙁 Do we even have any idea what is causing it? Weird that more retail games are breaking as inaccuracies are fixed

[ivory verge]

Even changing the seek time value fixes this game.

-- todo: research more accurate values

[clear rock]

Man, with it being so picky it makes me wonder how no games had issues across all the PSX revisions

[ivory verge]

Darius Gaiden has been doing this with every stable core for as long as I can remember. It's not a new issue. We need to find the real cause.

Many games expect specific drive behavior. A thousand games may work, but one will be unhappy. We do not have a realistically modeled CD-ROM drive. Sometimes it's worth asking yourself whether fixing one niche title is worth breaking 10 other games and then patching things up again.

I don't even know if everything can be fixed (github issues)

It really isn't as easy as some people might think.

[mortal oracle]

If it were easy you’ve have done it already 😅

You’ve been doing great work ❤️

[ivory verge]

Thanks🍻

[tropic stratus]

We don't have correct seek times, correct pause/unpause, spin up/down or command times.
If you tweak one, another will break.
Only real solution would be to research ALL of them or live with best guess.
Keep in mind that it took Xstation years to get most things fine and it didn't even have to care about all timings, e.g. command timing is not handled by xstation but still taken from original CD controller

[mortal oracle]

Whatever both of you have done is amazing. The vast majority of games work perfectly. It’s a handful of niche titles (all of which are well known now) which need workarounds. It’s no big deal

[ivory verge]

try this please

[dark mountain]

Bob desinterlacing option is broken on that build (vibrating texts even on the Bios screen).
Maybe only test that test core with the Weave algorithm option.

[ivory verge]

I don't touch that 🙂

Works fine for me

Good timings

[dark mountain]

I'm trying on a second MiSTer right now.

[ivory verge]

I only adjust seek times

Maybe bad seed build :))

[dark mountain]

Yep.

2 MiSTer systems are fine. One another + the SS1 don't like it.

Anyway, let's test some games.
As long I have some mobile phone connection since last hour & power supply at home is back.

[dark mountain]

I think about it too.

[abstract drift]

a fair few did

[acoustic lily]

This one works fine for me. No more freeze on Gradius Gaiden and i don't see any problem with any of my other games so far but i'll keep on checking with more titles 😉

[dark mountain]

Same for me, but I'm limited at the moment for more tests.

[ivory verge]

It's not a big change; I can implement it.

[tacit fox]

Core is now perfect!!

[dusk berry]

@ivory verge Based on your work on this core, what percentage of compatibility do we have with games? 95%?

[serene nebula]

Are there even any games that don't work?

[abstract drift]

It’s probably higher than 99.99%

[dusk berry]

Perhaps I asked the question wrong.

@ivory verge According to your work, what is the state of the core in percentage? 95%?

[spark ermine]

96.69%

[dusk berry]

all full set is around 10000 titles.

[serene nebula]

Are we counting disc drive emulation?

[abstract drift]

the answer depends why you care

[serene nebula]

@dusk berry You’ll have to comb through the GitHub issues to get a sense of how close to perfect the core is - https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues?page=1

A lot of them are already addressed or aren’t bugs in the first place so you’ll likely need to read each one to see if it’s still valid. I’d consider that the source of truth to how close to 100% it is.

[dusk berry]

I believe around 90-100%.

[serene nebula]

Much higher than 90%. It’s likely in the 99% range.

[abstract drift]

there's 10,000 titles and we know of like, < 20 legit bugs at this point

[dusk berry]

Because it's rare that we thoroughly test all 10,000: all the demos, press games, different print runs of the same game...

[serene nebula]

99.986%

Based on MobyGames saying there’s 3,169 PS1 games and even counting all the bugs.

we can’t assume incompatibility if we don’t know, we can only assume it works until proven otherwise

[ivory verge]

With 4100 games and 46 github issues is 98,88% 🙂

[abstract drift]

large parts of core behavior are basically nailed down by various testroms anyway

[serene nebula]

How do I do percentages

This was an honest question lol

[serene nebula]

That’s 99.9887%

So effectively 99.99%

@dusk berry

[abstract drift]

assuming all the current bugs are valid is wildly pessimistic too

[serene nebula]

Yeah we also know that’s not the case

But it’s tough to go higher than 99.99% lmao

for all intents and purposes, based purely on percentages. @dusk berry you can assume it’s 100%, unless you really care about that 0.011%

Then fine it’s 99.99% lolol

[languid geyser]

Is the 2001 PS1 port of Yeah Yeah Beebis running on MiSTer yet?

[serene nebula]

yes

[languid geyser]

100% confirmed, then. We can end development on the core, everyone. Good job.

[serene nebula]

It’s funny, that dude clearly had an agenda and through math we shot it down lol

[clear rock]

Yeah, a large chunk of them appear to be something wrong with the image, or the same as real hardware, or such and aren't actually a bug. There's a lot lf clutter in there

[languid geyser]

I see anti-mister sentiment online not infrequently and it’s always funny to me. No one is saying you have to buy a mister, if you are fine with software emulation then good for you.

[chilly kraken]

Fucking video games

[languid geyser]

The mister has three huge advantages over traditional emulation: easy analog output, no added system-level latency, and (basically) no fiddling with settings for games to run well.

[abstract drift]

if you're a speedrunner in a highly competitive game it might still not be good enough

for everyone else its basically flawless

[clear rock]

You think up of a number that goes "Eh, that feels about right" or "I really want this number to correct" and boom, you have a percentage!

... I was going to follow that up with a simpons gif but it does not appear to be in gipfy

[serene nebula]

Software emulation is amazing. Like DuckStation is the GOAT. I don’t know or care which is more accurate between the MiSTer core or DuckStation because it’s an irrelevant comparison.

pro tip: it’s my PS1, get flexed on emulation nerds

[abstract drift]

duckstation is awesome yeah

[languid geyser]

Duckstation is cool and for a retro handheld device you can’t expect any better.

[abstract drift]

i've been using duckstation for android lately and it rules having such good ps1 emulation on the go

[serene nebula]

I’m kidding I haven’t touched my real PS1 games since MiSTer core

[languid geyser]

But MiSTer will still win in terms of latency.

[serene nebula]

I am jealous of you Androids!!!

[abstract drift]

get one!

[serene nebula]

hellllll no, I have a social status I need to maintain

[languid geyser]

Retroid Pocket 6 is out now. Or you can get the previous Retroid Pocket G2 for a bit less.

I’m looking to upgrade from my Retroid Pocket 3+, since it came with a defective screen. Still deciding on which model I’m gonna get.

[abstract drift]

i like the odin2 portal, more of a steamdeck formfactor, 120hz oled screen etc

[languid geyser]

Yeah if you can afford Odin 2 definitely go for that, you’ll never need anything else.

Too expensive and too big for me though. I like the slightly-less-thab-Switch Lite size of the Retroids.

[abstract drift]

its amazing the variety you can buy now

have you seen the clamshell ones?

[languid geyser]

Yeah they are pretty cool.

Would be good for Dragon Quest and Sonic Rush, games that spread content vertically.

[abstract drift]

yeah and ds/3ds ofc

[languid geyser]

Dragon Quest and Sonic Rush are DS games, lol

[clear rock]

You love your Blackberry, I get it

[devout jolt]

I keep getting “unsafe option used” message when launching psx games but it doesn’t look like I have any of the unsafe options enabled. Anyone have any ideas?

[ivory verge]

yeah, it's my fault - "if (status[89] || status[80:79] > 0 || status[72] || status[15] || status[21] || status[77:75] > 0 || status[78] || status[85] || status[93]) begin"

When removing the hack for Dave Mirra, I forgot to remove bit [93] for the warning.

[devout jolt]

No worries, I’d been messing with the unsafe options so assumed it was something I’d missed somehow

Are there recommended video settings for CRT use or is it more of a whatever feels good kinda thing

[serene nebula]

Maybe you are the unsafe option???

[devout jolt]

Robby shoving a mirror in my face

[ivory verge]

corrected , thanks!

[mortal oracle]

Practice safe gaming: use the core defaults

[ivory verge]

@devout jolt You must have saved the settings with the backward seek hack option enabled. Return to the previous unstable core, disable this option, and save the settings. The warning will disappear.

[mortal oracle]

smh. Blue practicing unsafe gaming

[dark mountain]

Unsafe gaming > unsafe sax

[little frost]

Practice safe PSX

[dull ledge]

megaman 8 looks so nice

[sinful bloom]

It fares visually better by not having copious amounts of Resident Evil-grade CGI in the backgrounds

[spark ermine]

It also doesn't look like an nes game so even better

[serene nebula]

It would be nice if someone translated that FMV game for the PS2

[proven seal]

try the saturn version when you get the chance

[spark ermine]

Does the saturn version have any differences?

[proven seal]

quite a few. it has some nicer graphical effects in a few stages, different/higher-quality music, two exclusive bosses, more bolts to collect and an art gallery

[spark ermine]

Oh interesting I would have automatically assumed the ps1 would be superior

There must be some slowdown at least?

[proven seal]

not a hint of lag, as far as i remember. X4 is similarly superior, though to a lesser degree

[fading imp]

Saturn 8 has crummier FMV/voice samples/sound effects so it's not a straight upgrade.

[proven seal]

i mean, most saturn games are like that, so it's kind of to be expected

the extra content more than makes up for it

[clear rock]

There is slowdown when I played it, not sure if that was present on real hardware though or if it was single-ram shenanigans

But yeah, there are two extra optional sort of mini-boss/boss fights

Of ||Cutman|| and ||Woodman||

[proven seal]

there's no noticeable slowdown on real hardware, so i have to imagine it's just the single RAM core doing it's thing

[clear rock]

🙁

[mortal oracle]

Single RAM 😂

[dense wharf]

non canon mister...

[mortal oracle]

MiSTer Pro

[somber steppe]

Ololol single ram, can you imagine? 😂

[low otter]

sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, i just got an snac adapter and i can't get inputs to work with psx

the analog light on my dualshock lights up but that's it

[chilly kraken]

you mean in game, yeah?

not in the mister menu or anything like that - it's not working once a game loads

[low otter]

yeah in game, i know it doesn't work on the mister menu

[chilly kraken]

which stack and io board do you have?

[low otter]

🤦‍♂️and now all of a sudden it's working

[still palm]

certain games won't work in dualshock mode, usually if it's supported the game will turn the red light on after boot.

but if you hit the button and turn it on it may not work on all games.

[low otter]

ahh thank you

sorry i'm a ps2 kid so i never realized some games don't work like that

[proven seal]

ps2 kid

how were the dinosaurs unc

[forest robin]

im a sega genesis kid 😢

[proven seal]

prehistoric gamer

[still palm]

PS1 came out in 94 or 95, the dualshock didn't come out til 97 so all games before around there don't supprt DS

[low otter]

i still have the vcr i grew up watching Bob the Builder tapes on

[forest robin]

Bob the Builder
For me its Mr. Wizard and Wishbone.

[chilly kraken]

ancient gamer? time to walk into the sea

[forest robin]

return to the Devonian

[dull ledge]

Good time