Sony PlayStation

[stuck smelt]

Polygon Man was Sony of Americas original mascot first shown at the first E3 in 1995 for the US console launch. Apparently when Ken Kutaragi, the founder of PS1, saw it he criticised it because of the lack of textures. So it was scrapped from all promotions

[mortal oracle]

TIL. Thank you 🙂

[spring elk]

Nobody would want to rip off Knack...

[solid seal]

[tawny palm]

Oh god...

[somber steppe]

When someone calls you a Knack just remember that there is a reason why it's called trash can and not trash can't.

[cold sparrow]

thank you mark cerny for inventing eyebrows 🙇‍♂️

[serene nebula]

Are you a Gorillaz???

[tawny palm]

Yes

[mortal oracle]

He ain’t happy, he’s feeling glad

[stray narwhal]

Does he have sunshine in a bag?

[serene nebula]

No that’s on GameCube, this is PSX

[cosmic tulip]

Technically Resident Evil 1, 2 and 3 is on both gamecube and psx

So... Through the application of transitive property...

https://tenor.com/kW7SwvNvYPl.gif

[somber steppe]

Just finished silent hill for the first time. What a great game. Got the ||bad|| ending and I can definitely see the replay value and how it spawned such a longstanding franchise.

Also, the graphics are ridiculously good and almost look like a modern recreation of psx style graphics imo.

[abstract drift]

now you've finished it 1x there's a new menu in the options where you can enable an ammo multiplier for your second playthrough

you can also access the chainsaw/rockdrill now, so you can kind of race through it to see the other endings at this point

[somber steppe]

Sounds cool.

[dark mountain]

Launching Tales of Eternia (Destiny II) once more, after all these years.

[somber steppe]

I never finished a tales game but I bought at least 4 of them. So I still support the franchise.

[timber veldt]

Highly recommend Vesperia

[somber steppe]

Bought it. Played 1/3 of it. Somehow the tales games never keep me focused on them.

[tawny palm]

This was my first Tales game!

[proper girder]

Hi, I have just played to Gran Turismo 1 for ~3 hours. I have found a weird behavior twice during that time.

I had no memory of this when I played that game on PS1 ~30 years ago.

It is not bothering at all, but I was wondering if there's something to improve and may impact some other games.

The problem appears when a race starts. Righ after the countdown finishes the game starts playing a music from the soundtrack. 95% of the time the music starts normally i.e. its beginning.

But rarely, the music starts at a random moment. It's pretty surprising when this happens.

I am using Taki's clone and the game is a PAL version of GT1 (Europe).

[soft granite]

Taki's clone...😬

[ivory verge]

This has never happened to me

[proper girder]

I have recorded my gameplay. I'll try to post a video of it. But yeah, might come from the fact I'm using a clone. Still, I'm curious, this is just the game reading the track from the CD (microSD) during races.

[ivory verge]

We have done a lot of racing here in Gran Tursimo over the last two years. Nobody has reported this problem yet

Nor am I saying that the problem may not exist, but it is strange that no one has experienced it so far

[proper girder]

Or that track starts like that, I would have to check the soundtrack. But it doesn't sound like it's a way to start at track to me.

Anyway, it is not bothering. But I felt like I should report it, just in case 🙂

Found the track ( https://youtu.be/rQ8ug91-loQ ) and I am not crazy, this is not how it is supposed to begin.

[proper girder]

Yep, I guess lots of people are using Taki's clone too.

[abstract drift]

could it be a bad bin/cue? specifically if the cue was wrong it could do that i think

[ivory verge]

no cdda audio tracks for GT

http://redump.org/disc/7699/

[proper girder]

I have found another time in my recording where this happens and... well it is the same track starting exactly at the same position. So yeah that could be a rom issue.

Let's say it is the rom. I'll come back if the problem happens again with another rom.

[chilly kraken]

I can take a look when I get home

Looks like the FR version?

[proper girder]

Yes it is.

[chilly kraken]

Oh you mentioned that in your post I missed it

I think that’s how those tracks start

There is a music section of the options. It’s either “shade” or “tangerine” by “feeder” and both sound like they start there

[cold sparrow]

That seems pretty normal to me, growing up with the PAL version

[glacial orbit]

Has anyone encountered this issue with the PSX core? The video signal appears to freak out sometimes

Sometimes, the entire video signal looks like it'll start tearing itself apart

[ivory verge]

never 🙂

[glacial orbit]

I've used my setup on multiple monitors and only getting it on my 1440p/240Hz OLED

[tulip moat]

Resolution change causing dropped signals.

[glacial orbit]

Interesting, any way to mitigate this?

[tulip moat]

There is sync options in the ini file that gives you three different buffer options. This is useful if you are experiencing sync drops.

The PS1 core also has the option to insert a black frame to disguise the distortion caused by a sync drop.

[runic edge]

This core is incredible. I managed to play some Ridge Racer 4 with the g29 wheel and it's just beautiful.

Still can't believe it exists

[opaque turret]

Wait your g29 works? Can I hook up my Fanatec setup 🤔

[shut escarp]

https://www.cathoderayblog.com/racing-wheels-on-mister-fpga-setup-guide-dec-2022/ maybe

[runic edge]

I do remember that there was a fanatic driver added at some point

https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=5982

This discussion also helped me get setup

Most importantly the bit about very quickly tapping the accelerator and brake during mapping solved a problem I had

[opaque turret]

Ahh doesn’t look like anything for a modern Fanatec direct drive setup :/

[waxen forum]

Is it just me or does dino crisis have like

litttle bits of the screen going black

seems a bit frequent

[chilly kraken]

Might be resolution switching

[waxen forum]

yeah usually happens when I switch cores

but dino crisis in particular seems to have it like micro black screen alot

[chilly kraken]

Psx games sometimes swap resolutions often. Load up symphony of the night and see if you see it there when swapping menus

[waxen forum]

Ah right

ill check back later on if not tomorrow

oh right isnt there

sync 480i to hdmi

yeah that seems to have solved it, forgot about that weird thing in particular

[abstract drift]

dino crisis is the best game to torture test resolution transitions in, it switches to 480i whenever you open the menu and you can open and close the menu basically as fast as you can mash the button

[frail storm]

That's crazy and cool at the same time 😄

[somber steppe]

Should put the rt4k through it's paces at some point. I noticed in silent hill the transition taking longer than usual.

[marsh star]

Hey all, I'm trying to use a guncon 1 to play elemental gearbolt through a snax 64. I have the core set to use Snac port 1, but it's not picking the guncon up. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I am playing on a CRT

[still palm]

need the jumper on io board set to io6 it you have say analog io 6.1. and you have to plug the yellow plug into snax or your video chain.

[marsh star]

ah, it's probably the jumper cuz I've got everything else plugged in correctly

Is there a jumper diagram I can use?

I have the io analog pro

[still palm]

I believe the pro removed the jumper. it would have been near the user port

do regular ps1 controllers work for you? maybe you could try to plug the yellow plug in to the video chain instead of snax if possible. Do you know the guncon works?

[marsh star]

Regular ps1 controllers work perfectly. Thats what is confusing me. I have it connected through component so I’m not sure I can do the video thing

The light gun might just be broken

It’s also weird cuz the buttons on the side aren’t working at all, which makes me think it might just be a dud

[junior compass]

Can someone help me with a specific test just so I can rule out a problem with my SD card read speeds?

Galaxian 3 (E) - For some reason, intro movie is very jumpy and stuttery. While playing the game is repeatedly jumping forwards at regular intervals and I get CD Slow overlay popping up from time to time.

For some reason it's not so bad if I enable PAL 60Hz Hack but it still happens

[timber veldt]

What SD card are you using?

[junior compass]

sandisk ultra 64gb sdxc a1 if that means anything

I tried the (J) iso and it's much smoother so it might just be a PAL FMV quirk with the psx core? I still get the odd moment where it 'jolts' forwards though and seems to lag then catch up on itself

[abstract drift]

you can always turn off pause on slow cd

just be aware that might cause it to outright crash instead

[bright girder]

I’ve been really having fun playing through the Japanese version of elemental gearbolt. What an incredible game.

The difficulty in the Japanese version is actually balanced. Working Designs really messed up the balance in the NA version to the point where it’s masochistic. Technically completable, but not fun in the slightest to me. You do miss out on the story in the jp version but it’s non consequential anyway lol.

[bitter lintel]

can you even navigate the menus. i not speak japonese.

The US version is much, much harder, to the extent that its lowest difficulty is probably harder than the Japanese version's highest one.

[spring elk]

I wish I knew why Working Designs had such a bad habit of doing that.
Think there's an 'Un-worked Designs' version of that one?

[tulip moat]

Rental market.

Publishers did not like the idea of their games being rented out instead of bought, so they would deliberately jack up the difficulty in order to prevent people from beating the game in a single afternoon.

This phenomenon was most prevalent in North America, which is why games developed in North America or were localized in North America often enforced really cheap difficulty in games, sometimes to game breaking levels.

[bright girder]

Unfortunately no unworked version that I’m aware of, and the menus are all very basic. It’s really import friendly.

If you could swap out the cutscenes on the disc for the na versions then it’d be close to perfect. The only text that’s in Japanese are the level names and some stuff on the level clear screen, but it’s all easy to understand.

[bright girder]

Random question. I’m loading a bunch of GameShark discs trying to find a specific one I had that let you sift through the cutscene files on the discs, but I’m finding so far that like 6 different GameShark discs are loading but not showing any video…? Is this a known problem?

[eager sage]

No reckoning here?

[serene nebula]

Nah, there isn’t close to 1000 people in here

[lilac scaffold]

Do not underestimate the power of N64

[bright girder]

Is there anyone in here experienced with modifying or developing ps1 game files?

[somber steppe]

@manic citrus I tested the audio skipping in ff7 again and turns out it was the hdmi switch I used that made the audio pop. When connected directly it works fine. Sorry bout that.

[manic citrus]

like after the change I made?

so was weird before -> ok after?

[somber steppe]

It's fine with the normal main even. Couldn't reproduce it in like 5 minutes of opening and closing the menu in ff7 when connected directly but as soon as I put the switch inbetween it popped again. I'm on v240920

[mortal oracle]

PSX core is best core

[tawny palm]

PS1 confirmed least popular console of the generation!

[serene nebula]

[somber steppe]

To a true mister disciple there is no psx, n64 or saturn. There aren't console wars. There isn't even a pc vs console debate.

There is only mister! ❤️

[rapid garden]

mister is all, mister is life

[somber steppe]

Our lord and savior. 🙏

[rapid garden]

praise be to the mister

[somber steppe]

#notacult

[mortal oracle]

Or the library is good that people are playing games rather than discussing other things 😉

[somber steppe]

Cdi channel must be one hell of a party then

[spring elk]

The MiSTer must flow.

[runic edge]

All hail our golden named brethren!

[somber steppe]

Protect us from the orange ones!

[runic edge]

Our MiSTer
Who art under the television
Hallowed be thy games

[somber steppe]

Long run thy update_all

[runic edge]

And deliver us from emulators

Amen.

[somber steppe]

I hope when I retire there will be a mister compound with believers I can join.

[chrome kindle]

Brethren, we must update_all ourselves

[tawny palm]

Did I just join a cult?

[chrome kindle]

No no no haha. Have some lemonade.

[somber steppe]

Flavour aide. Grape flavour.

[chrome kindle]

If you're going to poison yourself at least have some self respect and make it classy

[somber steppe]

That's what they used.

In j-town.

No cool aide, just the cheap stuff. Look it up.

[chrome kindle]

Pathetic!

I believe you though.

[final salmon]

Forgive me MiSTer, for I have sinned. It's been like 3 months since my last update all.

[somber steppe]

There probably was someone who isn't on this discord and updated and found a psx and n64 core on his mister.

[chrome kindle]

And did a double take with googly eyes and jaw drop etc

[tawny palm]

Drop your head in shame!

[bright girder]

I just put together an "unworked" edition of Elemental Gearbolt if anyone is interested. I just took all the english fmvs and other assets i could insert into the jp iso of the game. It will have the english presentation but retain the original intended non working designs difficulty.

However I cant upload to archive as it seems broken atm, so if anyone is interested for a link to it just dm me.

[wild sinew]

Are the JP and US ones the same size?

[bright girder]

Off hand I’m not 100 percent, but the way file swapping works in ps1 discs it should be the same file size

[silent bridge]

That would be perhaps one of the greatest moments of their life.

[bright girder]

These kids all grown up

[rapid garden]

you think they still play Nintendo 64? or the MiSTer core?

[bright girder]

Doesn’t everybody?

[somber steppe]

Can only speak for psx but I haven't touched my xstation modded, memcard pro equipped psx since I've got mister.

[unreal sequoia]

Most of my retro consoles are currently in storage at the moment. I've only got so much space to spare for gaming hardware, so my DE-10 Nano has effectively taken the place of all my old retro consoles all the way up to the 5th gen of consoles and some later low-powered handhelds because of how small my particular MiSTer setup is. While the MiSTER does offer a pretty solid alternative to modded original hardware that I'm more than happy to use, I am the sort of person who'd still play on my original hardware just as long as I still had a reliable means to get some good video output from them that doesn't look like ass on my 4K TV.

[somber steppe]

The ass part can be majorly improved by a 4k scaler

[chrome kindle]

It cannot be done. You either play pretty pretty modern games or grill your retinas with an electron gun

[somber steppe]

One of the very few modern games that thoroughly and completely eclipsed my expectations is signalis. It's like sci fi silent hill.

[viral inlet]

Signalis is really cool

[abstract drift]

i found it kind of annoying until they patched it to give you more inventory spaces but then it was awesome

anyone who fell off it at launch should check it out again they've patched it a ton

[somber steppe]

I played with the revised inventory, the regular 6 spaces and flashlight and the eye not taking a space.

[abstract drift]

yeah that made a huge difference

i'm not really sure what they were thinking at launch, even OG resident evil wasn't so stingy with inventory space

[shut escarp]

I never even managed to get my Xstation installed before the core made it obsolete. It’s just in a box

[bright girder]

My psio fell into disuse after they didn’t update it for 3 years, and then the core put nails into it’s coffin

[weak widget]

I have it still unpacked, and with the PSX core it feels redundant indeed

[bright girder]

The final straw for me with the psio was the memcard pro came out for ps1, I bought it right away anticipated it’d get supported. Xstation came out right around then and supported it from day one… to my knowledge psio STILL doesn’t?

That and the owner (Matt I think it was) was very hostile to criticism and anti consumer

[somber steppe]

Best thing about memcard pro is ||that I could easily convert my save games for mister||

[bright girder]

I do really want that memcard for ps2 tho

[somber steppe]

Oh it's neat, works great with opl.

Memcard pro gc is also great.

I'll gift you mine when the ps2 and gc core is out.

[cold sparrow]

psio does support gameid now but my psio is long gone

[bright girder]

Well it’s coming on mars next quarter so I’ll hold you to that!

[somber steppe]

Mars is vaporware

The fpga platform and the planet both, naturally.

[bright girder]

Also my super sega is going to play Dreamcast and all the sega arcade games

I threw 10 preorders down just so I wouldn’t miss my chance. On an unrelated note I sure hope my bank account is okay.

[somber steppe]

Are there even any good games on dc?

[lusty coral]

The Resident Evil titles, well the Japanese ones titled Biohazard are interesting. As they had demos for other Biohazard games.

For example, my copy of Biohazard 2 Value Plus has a demo/preview build of Biohazard Code Veronica.

[mortal oracle]

Two: Shenmue and Shenmue 2

[somber steppe]

They've all been ported to better consoles and don't count

[final salmon]

Can it be better, if it doesn't have a 70 man VMU countdown?

[cold sparrow]

i recently got a dc again and a gdemu for it and i'm not sure either

[mortal oracle]

Of games that remain locked on the Dreamcast… umm… crazy taxi 2? 😅

I think D2 is still exclusive. I’ve never played it, but that’s meant to be good, I think

[cold sparrow]

cannon spike?

[somber steppe]

GC is a better DC than a DC. Change my mind.

[abstract drift]

there's no jet set radio on GC

[mortal oracle]

GC lacks those two games

[abstract drift]

xbox is the superior dreamcast

[mortal oracle]

Or JSR

[mortal oracle]

This

[abstract drift]

i think it even has crazy taxi 2? unlockable in CT3

[mortal oracle]

Childhood me bought an Xbox specifically because I saw it as the Dreamcast 2

And also because I blamed Sony for killing the DC. Console war loyalties clouding my vision 😂

[serene nebula]

Wii U is basically the 2010s version of the Dreamcast. Bunch of cool tech that was too early for it's time, lasted only a handful of years, and all the best games got ported to other systems.

[serene nebula]

Go Go Hypergrind? 😂

[cosmic tulip]

Dreamcast will never be dead so long as D2 and Illbleed remain unported

[chrome kindle]

Brave words! I'm not sure I can name a single Wii U game offhand

Maybe some zelda

And for the DC on the other hand, there are many legendary games like sonic adventure... sonic adventure 2... Chu Chu rocket

And ikaruga

[final salmon]

Star Fox Zero! I am aware of one other human (not counting Shigeru Miyamoto I guess) that really likes that game.
It would be nice if it had more of the PSX spirit in it, kinda does with some of the oddball games, but that library just isn't even a fraction big enough to compare. Some fun games though

[empty yacht]

nintendo hardware is never too early.
The hardware which should have been used is just not old enough to be within nintendos range of cheapness.

[tawny palm]

If we ever get a Yoshi's Wooly World port to Switch, I can finally unhook my Wii U! The 3DS version just isn't good enough! I need muh HD visuals.

[mortal oracle]

I really hope we do. Yoshi needs more love

[solid seal]

Devil's Third switch port wen

[silent bridge]

TP n WW say hi.

[serene nebula]

lol I bought that game, the intro alone was worth it

[void scroll]

I was playing Tekken 3 and the movie theater allows for inserting Tekken 1 and Tekken 2 discs to play the fmvs. Is there a way to do it in the core? I tried loading Tekken 1 & 2 and it would reboot and load those games instead.

[manic citrus]

there is but it is kind of annoying. if the directory the current image in has a file named 'noreset.txt' it will not reset the core when a new disc is swapped in

[void scroll]

Thanks for the heads up, is that documented somewhere? I don't remember ever seeing it posted before.

[tropic stratus]

you can also put all tekken games into the same folder, then you can also just change the disc

that is the normal multi cd solution. noreset.txt is more a special solution for e.g. switching to a music cd

[silent bridge]

So we could (somehow) prepare a music CD for Ridge Racer 1 and use a noreset.txt to play music? 😳

[tropic stratus]

yes, put a noreset.txt file into the rdige racer directory and change the disc in OSD when the main menu is loaded i think should work already

[silent bridge]

Very cool. I gotta figure out how to make the music cd work next 😅

[solid seal]

Definitely need to try this with Vib Ribbon

[silent bridge]

can't read 😦 🙂

[scenic reef]

also useful for monster rancher

[serene nebula]

and vib ribbon

[manic citrus]

I kinda wish there was a way to control this on the fly instead of having users drop files. sometimes you just want to do it as a one off.

but I don't think a separate menu item for it is justifiable, so I dunno

[tropic stratus]

you can open the lid, load a new cd and then close the lid in OSD

[serene nebula]

Just like the real thing, haha

[manic citrus]

that'll still process and cd_bios.rom files the user has. although if you are putting those in audio cd directories you get what you deserve

what I do notice is that there's basically no way to stop main from swapping the save file out in those cases. so that might be a bit surprising

[cosmic tulip]

is there a way to set open lid and bring up the menu to load a disk to hotkeys on a keyboard perhaps?

[storm barn]

Select a game image with the lid opened will never reset? This is brilliant.

[manic citrus]

it will change the memory card unless you also turn off the automount memory card option

so if you're doing it to swap discs for audio, you just have to know about that behavior

[cosmic tulip]

Does there have to be anything in the text file or is it just blank and the name of the file enough?

[manic citrus]

blank

it just uses the existence of the file

[desert otter]

It only swaps memory cards for game images in their own folders since by default the memory cards take the name of the folder so that you can have multi disc games in the same folder as each other and they all use the same card

[manic citrus]

yeah, just saying if people are doing it to swap in audio cds or whatever they're gonna get confused when their save is 'missing'

[mystic flare]

is their an up-to date psx_dualram build around here or is it the 2022 one from test build channel the last one?

[ivory verge]

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[thorny herald]

whch games would you recommend for the PSX2X core?

e.g. something that can hit 60fps

[tropic stratus]

Revolt 🙂

[oblique glade]

Ghost in the Shell plays really well with the PSX2X core. Fun game.

[twin wigeon]

Hi all, getting on much better with my playstation Mister set up since the last time I posted!! I've got my SNAC adapter and pad situation all set up and saving with my memory card.

I was wondering if theres an easy way to back up my real memory card to a virtual one?

Thanks

[chilly kraken]

If you can dump the memory card, it should be doable with https://github.com/ShendoXT/memcardrex

[still palm]

This is an easy one. with a real MC using snac as port1 and set a virtual one as port 2 just go the bios MC manager screen and transfer them across.

[twin wigeon]

Thanks, I treid this, and picked a random game memory card, but I transfered them all, selected the Mister menu to "commit" the changes, but they didnt seem to persist when I tried to load that memory card again. Can you have non game specific memory cards?

Actually im talking non sense, I checked again after you said it and it did work!! Thanks so much appreciated!!

[still palm]

could have probably mounted a blank one from github, you use to be able to name them a certain way but I didn't see that in the readme https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer?tab=readme-ov-file#memory-card

[twin wigeon]

oh brilliant, pro tip re blank one, thanks again

[tropic stratus]

maybe easiest is to copy from snac slot 1 to virtual slot 2, then switch to non-snac slot 1 virtual memcard and copy it back there

that way you could load up the virtual memcard of the chosen game directly?

[twin wigeon]

Thanks all, great ideas, very much appreciated. LOVING the PS1 core - not even tried the n64 yet - got the SNAC adapter for that as well! See yall around.

[tacit fox]

There goes another happy MiSTer customer

[polar horizon]

Hi, I need some help with an issue. I just did a fresh install of my MisterFPGA, I am trying to play Tekken 1, but there's this flickering line of pixels on the top corner of the screen. Any ideas how to fix this?

Here's my current INI setup for reference

The TV I'm using is a LG C3

[serene nebula]

Is that the only game that does that?

[polar horizon]

I'm not sure, it's the only game I have on my MisterFPGA at the moment

If you give me a few minutes I could add more

[serene nebula]

It’s possible that’s actually part of the game and due to CRT overscan you’d never see it when it came out.

[polar horizon]

If that's the case, then I would need to enable vertical cropping right?

[serene nebula]

Yeah if it bothers you. But definitely check a few other games first to make sure it’s not some external issue to your setup.

[polar horizon]

Another question. When enabling vertical cropping, what does 216/256 & 224/270 mean

[polar horizon]

I'm most concerned about burn in, because I'm using an OLED 😅

Now that I think about it, I believe I noticed this aswell on my Retrotink 5x when I didn't crop out the overscan. I was playing tekken mostly on my ps1 but the laser is starting to give out

[serene nebula]

The Vertical crop options, which are made available when Fixed VBlank is turned on, is similar to the 5x scaling in other cores, but due to the nature of many PSX games using either 224p or 216p, then there have been two options made available for your convenience.

Link to more PSX core option explanations - https://mister-devel.github.io/MkDocs_MiSTer/cores/highlights/psx/#fixed-blanks

[polar horizon]

Cool, I'll check this out soon. Currently trying to figure out another issue, my controls in Crash team racing isn't working

But the controls do work in the bios, and in tekken

I'm using Snax64. Everything worked last I used my MisterFPGA, not really sure what's wrong

[serene nebula]

Check your controller input in the core menu.

If you change your controls you’ll need to save your settings for it to persist.

[polar horizon]

Just did, it's set to Snac port 1

[serene nebula]

Plugged into the SNAC port?

Analog button light on/off?

controller plugged into SNAC port 1?

[polar horizon]

Yup, Snap plugged into snac port, psx snac adapter plugged into port 1, and ps1 controller plugged into port 1

[polar horizon]

Light is supposed to be on, it's off

[serene nebula]

Ok cool

Uhhh then I dunno, sorry lol

[polar horizon]

Where can I find the PSX2X core?

Gonna try another build out of curiosity

[serene nebula]

It’s in the pins

[polar horizon]

I don't have access to pins

Wait, I think it's placed in settings now 😭

[serene nebula]

Yeah it’s dumb

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[polar horizon]

Well, apparently my MisterFPGA doesn't like the 2x core now...

[manic citrus]

obligatory: did you use filezilla?

[polar horizon]

No, I download it via chrome

[manic citrus]

how did you put it on the mister?

[polar horizon]

Drag and drop into console core folder

[manic citrus]

oh wait, direct link to github. did you right click -> save as or something?

[polar horizon]

Right click save as

[manic citrus]

yeah, I bet you downloaded html

click on the filename, and the on the next page, click on 'View Raw'

[polar horizon]

Weird, it says rbf as the file type

[manic citrus]

do not right-click save as, just normal click and it will download the right thing

[polar horizon]

Ok, that fixed that problem

But unfortunately my controls still don't work for CTR

I think this may be a bug with the newest build, I just tested another analog compatible game and it works. Game tested is ape escape @serene nebula

[serene nebula]

Snax64 + PS1 dual shock?

I’ll get my stuff to test

[polar horizon]

Yup

[serene nebula]

No issues using the controller with Crash Team Racing

[polar horizon]

What multitap are you using, also NTSC-U version?

Here's my setup

[serene nebula]

I can try with multi tap

[polar horizon]

Please do, I was hoping to use my oem cards

[serene nebula]

No issue with multi tap either

[polar horizon]

Hmm, I'm not sure what the issue is then. Other games are working fine, only this one

I'm re downloading the game, and I'll add it back to my SD card again, that's the only thing I can think of

[serene nebula]

It’s either your game, your multitap, or your controller. No issues with the core.

Maybe the PSX adapter or SNAX adapter but it would either work or not work.

@polar horizon What power supply you running?

[polar horizon]

The upgraded one, can't remember the name right now.

Ok, this is very odd. My multitap works on my ps2, works on tekken, and analog games like ape escape, but refused to work in CTR.

My controller works without the multitap

CTR works on my ps2 aswell

With the multitap

[serene nebula]

Maybe something funky going on with your multitap

Try pulling out the PSX adapter cable out slightly from your multitap and see if that does anything

[polar horizon]

It all worked before, I just used this a week ago :/

[serene nebula]

do you have another multitap to test with?

[polar horizon]

No

[serene nebula]

You can do a virtual memory card with SNAC, it should be the default option.

[polar horizon]

I really struggle to believe this is a multitap issue, why would ape escape work but not ctr?

[polar horizon]

Yeah, I've considered but I really wanted to use my memory cards

[serene nebula]

Because it would’ve been a reported issue by now and no one has ever brought that up or reported it.

This is a hobbyist project that’s bleeding edge. There could be a myriad of electrical reasons for failure.

[polar horizon]

Would you happen to have a build from sometime in april-june

[serene nebula]

it’s extremely odd you’re right

[polar horizon]

That's the last psx build i used before updating

[serene nebula]

If its a core issue then why does it work for me

But to answer your question I don’t have one, sorry

[polar horizon]

I'm not sure, but it's my last option before I put my MisterFPGA back in the closet LOL

Everything works on everything else, it's so odd

[serene nebula]

I recommend not bothering with your real memory card for that game

[abstract drift]

you can grab old releases here:
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/tree/main/releases

[serene nebula]

Or try to find a different multitap to test

If an old build works for you then great, I hope it’s as simple as that

[abstract drift]

whats the issue? CTR + snac + multitap + real memcard?

[polar horizon]

yes, CTR isn't responding to any inputs

[serene nebula]

Yeah can you test that too?

[abstract drift]

is the memory card part important?

[serene nebula]

I put away all my stuff already lol

[abstract drift]

maybe but i think i may of sold all my real memory cards at this point 😄

[serene nebula]

@polar horizon do you still have problems without the memory card inserted into the multitap?

In your image above you didn’t have it inserted

[polar horizon]

Yes

[serene nebula]

Damn

[abstract drift]

idk if its relevant but CTR is a game that actually supports the multitap wheras ape escape isn't

[polar horizon]

Hmm, what's another multitap game then. I could test it out

[abstract drift]

micro machines v3?

quake2

almost any sports title (nfl, nhl, soccer etc)

[serene nebula]

I didn’t have any issues with the game. Even used the same exact PSOne controller and multitap as he did.

Used the same MisterAddons SNAX accessories too.

[abstract drift]

are you on snax64 too?

[serene nebula]

Replicated his setup almost one to one

[polar horizon]

Yeah, it's so odd. Then I tested with the same setup on my ps2 and it worked perfectly

Let me try another multitap enabled game

[serene nebula]

yeah that’s a good idea @abstract drift

[polar horizon]

If this doesn't work, my last option would be to check the fuses in my multitap

Game is downloading rn

[abstract drift]

also maybe try setting the second controller port in the core to none

idk if ctr could be seeing a fifth controller there and not liking that

[serene nebula]

Ohhhhh

Damn good call

Pretty sure my second player input is set to disabled by default

[polar horizon]

Welp, it seems like a fuse may be blown in my multitap, damn.

[serene nebula]

Oh wow, how did you find that out?

[polar horizon]

Rampage 2 doesn't work, tried connecting 3 controllers and it refuses to acknowledge its inserted

[serene nebula]

Even on your PS2?

[polar horizon]

Gonna test now, I have a disc burning

@serene nebula it works on my ps2 😭

Tested all 3 controllers in rampage 2, worked fine

[serene nebula]

Haha crazy

[polar horizon]

I even took apart my snax64 adapter to physically examine it, and everything looks perfect in there

Really not sure what's going on

I hope the USB port of my Mister or the Snax adapter isn't messed up. But if it was, I feel like it wouldn't work at all...

[polar horizon]

Tried disabling it, didn't work

[serene nebula]

Sorry dude

[polar horizon]

Also testing 4p in the n64 core, just to rule out a potential issue with the adapter. And it worked

[serene nebula]

Oh good thinking

Did you end up trying an earlier build?

[polar horizon]

It's all good, I'll revisit this another day. Been very frustrated with MisterFPGA, gonna put it back away for now and use my ps2

[polar horizon]

Yup, didn't work which was surprising

[serene nebula]

Damn sorry to hear that. Anything else I can help out with to eliminate those frustrations?

[polar horizon]

For some reason my LG C3 has been unhappy with my MisterFPGA too, especially after the firmware update so it definitely isn't a MisterFPGA issue 😅

Just a few too many no signal screens

[polar horizon]

No, youve done more than enough I really appreciate it. I'll probably buy another multitap, just not happy with the fact that I gotta use money to potentially solve this issue lmao

[serene nebula]

Yeah, the PSX core performs exactly like a PS1 so it’s going to spit out a bunch of different resolutions.

Some TVS hate it

[polar horizon]

Yeah, that's kinda why I wanna run my mister into my RT5X

[serene nebula]

If CTR is the only game with the issue, don’t worry about the physical mem card. You can probably convert and copy that save over later if you need to

[polar horizon]

Yeah, I could. I guess what's frustrating is I use MisterFPGA for it's ease of use, but lately it feels anything but that. Kinda regret doing a fresh install now lmao, I don't even have the desire to play anymore 😅

[serene nebula]

Also try setting ** vsync_adjust** to 0 in your mister.ini if you haven’t already

[serene nebula]

Yeah friend, I totally get you. I’d be feeling the same.

[tawny palm]

Never give up! Fight fight fight!

[serene nebula]

Well if you feel like taking another look later hit us up. We want you to have fun with it and not have issues.

Sorry again for the issues you’re having

[polar horizon]

Yeah, it sucks at times. I also think I'm generally just losing love for the hobby, tinkering specifically. I realized I'm doing more testing than I am gaming, and I hate that. My first post was at 8:18pm and now it's 10:24pm I feel like I'm going crazy LMAO. Then between financial costs of maintaining these old electronics, or mods, and the time needed, I am so burnt out. I even left my electronics repair job too, I'm just burnt out from it all tbh

[polar horizon]

I appreciate it! I'll definitely drop a message again if I decide to tinker with it, I'm probably gonna watch anime in the meantime and call it a day

[serene nebula]

for what it’s worth, I agree with you 200% and I’m the exact same

[polar horizon]

I'm glad that I'm not alone, it's been feeling that way for awhile in this hobby. I've been in this hobby for a decade now, and while it's understandable things changed, especially after the pandemic, I'm left totally burnt out 😅

It's why I'm such a big fan of retrotink products, the 5x has worked without issues, 100% of the time. All my consoles are connected, it just works right away

@serene nebula Kinda offtopic but I'm feeling the same way with PC's too. Between optimization issues, bugs, and having to upgrade every Tuesday, I've caught myself just gravitating to my ps5 more often, just to get into a game quickly

[serene nebula]

Sometimes you just want to sit down and play a game, I respect that.

[mystic flare]

thx man

[feral swift]

the saves on mister can be used on original hardware or viceversa?

i'm buying one of those memory cards that backup the saves on a sd card and I was wondering if I can extract them and continue on mister

[somber steppe]

Yeah you just have to change the file extension. I did this with a memcard pro.

[weak widget]

Have a problem with getting a DS4 controller to work in PSX core. Only down on dpad works. Setting controls in core doesn't change anything. Can I reset it to default somehow? Reset settings does nothing

[broken pelican]

does it work fine in other cores? You might want to re-do the Mister-wide setup to make sure that it is correctly recognized: https://mister-devel.github.io/MkDocs_MiSTer/setup/controller/

[feral swift]

lovely, thanks!

[shut escarp]

@polar horizon if the multi tap is working in everything but ape escape you should still be able to copy your CTR saves over in the raw bios by manually mounting the virtual memory card in the CTR folder and setting SNAC for p1 so it sees your physical card

[polar horizon]

Ok, I'll keep that info in mind. Ended up playing the game on my ps2 instead for now

[polar horizon]

@serene nebula I found the issue, it is a blown fuse on the ps1's multitap. Port's 1-3 work, but not 4. CTR started giving me issues aswell on PS2, all the controllers would drop their connection when a 4th controller was plugged in

[serene nebula]

Oh wow that’s wild! I’m sorry to hear about that.

Is that fixable?

[polar horizon]

Yes? I think so, I'd just need to find a diagram and figure out where the issue is. Unfortunately there's no much info available on multitaps, my best bet for my mental health and time is to just buy another 😅

[abstract drift]

that diagram exists somewhere if your ever interested i'm pretty sure

[polar horizon]

How do I mount virtual memory cards? Moreso, where do I get the file from

[solid seal]

When lanched and with auto save on in the OSD, Psx games in their respective folders will automatically generate a memory card just for the game in "Saves/PSX" directory on the SD card. You can duplicate one of the memory cards and name it something else, then manually mount it in the OSD, by navigating to the same "Saves/PSX"

[polar horizon]

I can't just generate 1 card for all my games?

[somber steppe]

You can but psx memory cards are limited to 15 blocks, so you'll run out of space extremely fast. The core creates memory cards based on folder. So if you put all your games just into the games/psx folder they'll all share the same memory card. If you put them all into their own folder they'll each create a memory card with the name of that folder. This is meant for multi disc games, so the save is shared between all discs of ff7 for example.

[polar horizon]

I know, I just wanted the traditional experience where I had shared memory cards. It's for the nostalgia

Was going to use real memory cards but my multitap died

[somber steppe]

Then don't use subfolders and you can do just that.

[polar horizon]

Ok, that's perfect then

[loud tendon]

Turn off auto mount or mount your full memory card to slot 2

[serene nebula]

Alternatively you can just manually load a memory card in the core whenever you play a game. Here’s a blank memory card - https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/raw/main/memcard/empty.mcd

[devout kiln]

Hey all - having trouble with my sound. Its crackling and also will not go up or down. It stays at a constant volume no matter what. Not sure what to do here.... was working at one point and now its not.

[chilly kraken]

Analog audio? Or via hdmi?

[devout kiln]

Analog audio

Connecting to my dac/amp with headphones

[chilly kraken]

Which analog board? 9.2?

[devout kiln]

works fine if i go directly to my speakers though which is interesting

Yes 9.2

but also still getting crackling no matter what

[chilly kraken]

So there is an issue with boards based on the 9.2 io board design. Crackling in some PSX and megacd games. I dunno if it’s been reported to sorg or not.

Is it only in PSX and megacd games?

[devout kiln]

seems accurate but not confirmed. Thats a bummer, so no fix as of right now?

[chilly kraken]

If you can do digital to your dac, you shouldn’t have issues

[devout kiln]

what cable? 3.5mm to toslink?

[solid seal]

use a mini toslink adapter, and plug it into the MiSTer's 3.5mm jack

most optical cables come with one

any cheap DAC will do - I use something like this:

[devout kiln]

i have a fiio k7 that im using and can use a mini-toslink to toslink cable if that will work

[solid seal]

Anyone able to get Disney Goofy's Fun House to get past the first loading screen? I tried the 2X core and increased the CD speed and nothing.
I was able to get it load in duck station, so the disc image should be good.

[ivory verge]

usa or pal ?

[solid seal]

usa

also I tried a bin/cue and a chd and same result

[chilly kraken]

that is where I am sitting too. That disk just keeps spinning....

[solid seal]

I saw a retro achievements board where other people where complaining about constant crashes on loading screens, but they were able to increase the CPU to mitigate it in RetroArch

[tulip moat]

Probably related to the disc reading. Some games do not like the faster loading.

[solid seal]

yeah - I tried all the fast and regular options

[chilly kraken]

we need a half speed load :p

we need to simulate a disk drive with 3-5 years of dust on the lens

[solid seal]

I'll try turning the MiSTer on it's top

[ivory verge]

Works with psx2xcpu + turbo high

Crap game 😂

Stable 15fps

[solid seal]

Guess I wasn't giving it enough power - lol
Yeah I'm cruisin through stuff finding games for kids

[chilly kraken]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder, kuba

[solid seal]

102 Dalmatians isn't bad - like an easier Spyro made by Crystal Dynamics (surprisingly)

[ivory verge]

Hercules is the best

[solid seal]

yeah - Toy Story 2 is also pretty good

[solid seal]

Also surprised there is no Pole Position core, but thankfully Namco Museum exists

[chilly kraken]

Prepare to qualify

[tulip moat]

https://youtu.be/jSbb2XMuxAA?si=A2Qu80Vqa9yaOfKy

[feral swift]

Can someone help me out? I want to apply the Alundra Un-Worked patch to the German PAL version, but I'm unable to find the game with the correct MD5 hash: http://stargood.org/unworked/alundra.php

[serene nebula]

Sorry, we can’t discuss where to find copyrighted material on this Discord. Thank you for understanding.

[weak widget]

Thanks, have been busy will try it

[final salmon]

As a typical CRT user, please forgive some perhaps obvious HDMI questions.
Does using the widescreen hack typically alter aspect ratio? Is there some work around for that?
https://mister-devel.github.io/MkDocs_MiSTer/cores/highlights/psx/#widescreen-hack
I guess the aspect ratio change is standard as in the example video. Suppose I could add custom INI aspect ratio values

I've got some flicker at the top of the screen in PAL Aquanaut's Holiday (same result in Duckstation). Are the crop filters intended to get around this? They don't seem to remove it.

[frail storm]

Hello, is this a known issue or non-issue with the PSX core? The game is Parasite Eve 1:

[ivory verge]

I'm ashamed to admit it but I've never played PE1 🤯

[frail storm]

I like that game a lot, came after FF7 and it's very.. experimental and ambiental.

Good game IMHO

[ivory verge]

I have finished PE2 several times

[serene nebula]

Is it the square? Do you mind describing the issue?

[frail storm]

Yes, of course: It's that back square sometimes appearing when the pterodactyl does it's magic. That enemy (and the apparent glitch) happens on the museum area.

[full nimbus]

Are you using the core that fixed RE2 ?

it was never released through update all. Has to be manual

[frail storm]

Do you mean the core that fixed Resident Evil 2 background showing squares?

[full nimbus]

yes

[frail storm]

No, I'm using latest core available on update_all, but looking at this:https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/commits/main/
...I see there was a release after the RE2 fix.

[ivory verge]

Yes , it was released

[frail storm]

The black rectangle appears when the magic is run, it's NOT part of the background

[full nimbus]

but it may be the same issue

some sort of blending issue

[ivory verge]

Before was mdec issue

[frail storm]

That's it. RE2 was fixed in https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/commit/e08ee19632c8e7355693e7de0d9f5dd9857adfb8

[ivory verge]

Now it's full 3d (no background)

So no mdec related

[frail storm]

What puzzles me is that Parasite Eve is a popular game, so this issue being unnoticed (it it's an issue at all) would be strange

I tried all the GPU-related settings, nothing seems to have an effect on it

[full nimbus]

are you running with no options turned on with cd at 1 x speed

no cheats

no turbo core

[frail storm]

Nothing that would alter the PSX vanilla working is activated, of course

[full nimbus]

well it has to be asked

because people run trubo with cheats and other unsafe options

[serene nebula]

My first experience with the MiSTer was turning on turbo in the Genesis core and then playing Sonic the Hedgehog seeing everything broken lmao

not a good experience after spending all that money

[abstract drift]

share a save state nearby maybe someone can repro

[chilly kraken]

I am ready to test

[fluid raft]

Is this fix in the last released buid or in the latest unstable build?

[hallow quartz]

Noticed the same bug in mednafen a few years back whe playing the game.

[ivory verge]

All fixes are in the latest official build

[frail storm]

Of course! 🙂

[pseudo plinth]

I completed PE a year ago with the core and had no problems and no sign of this bug you mentioned.

[frail storm]

@chilly kraken @abstract drift : This is a savefile on the museum area. Go must go up to the upper floor to find the pterodactyl enemy.
Sometimes he makes a "pink" magic attack: when you are on the lower part of the screen, the black rectangle appears sometimes.

The savegame is as near as I can to the problem.

Shouldn't take more than a minute or two to fight the pterodactyl enemy

[chilly kraken]

I’m unable to find the fight. The stairs are locked in the lobby, but I found other stairs deeper into the museum. I fought a rapier, but no pterodactyl.

I need to run errands but I’ll futz with it when I’m back

[manic citrus]

save state would probably be better

[digital zinc]

probably, I spent 15 minutes trying to find this fight and I couldn't figure out where it is on the 2nd or 3rd floors

[tropic stratus]

at least that explains why noone else has found the issue so far 😅

[frail storm]

This is a savestate in a pterodactyl fight, but now I can't reproduce it...
The person who reported it to me (my girlfriend who was playing on the upper floor of the house...) and made the screenshot was playing an spanish translated version, so probably caused by the translation altered font and no core bug, sorry guys if that's the case.

[digital zinc]

I found the fight (playing the US version), and I do not get the visual glitch on any of his attacks

[frail storm]

Probably we can forget about the matter. NEVER EVER should I report a possible bug on a translated game. Sorry, really.

[ivory verge]

In my opinion, any report of a potential error is good

[chilly kraken]

Agreed.

[frail storm]

Yes, but I made you guys travel the museum scenario back and forth to look for the right right 😄 Sorry about the time wasted on that

[chilly kraken]

It’s Saturday

[digital zinc]

I also tried a US copy patched to spanish, and I didn't encounter this visual glitch while loading your save state, everything looks properly blended. I ensured all my core options were on the defaults, no direct video, over HDMI.

[frail storm]

Then I don't know. I thought it was the translation patch since it alters the font...

[chilly kraken]

Are you doing direct video? I missed if you said

[frail storm]

No, I only use HDMI around here 🙂

[chilly kraken]

Ahh ok. Then yeah, who knows. Ghosts.

[frail storm]

Oh no! I had these four guys beam'n trap the ghotst around my house last year.. no cheap thing! 😦

[chilly kraken]

*3 in the pan and scan version

[frail storm]

"I see what you did there"

[random bridge]

I have a question concerning the video options of the PSX core. I play on a OLED screen with video mode 13, which is 4/3 aspect ratio. When I use fixed hblank and vblank without crop it seems to me that the image is squashed horizontally. What would be the best setting to help with screen shaking and still keep the 4/3 aspect ratio?

[desert otter]

From my personal experience, if you want to get a slightly more wide screen view in your PSX games with the widescreen mode, use 3:2 mode.
When graphics are rendered on PS games, they are rendered only slightly out of view so that as you move a camera around in 3D, you don't see any pop in/loading of textures resulting in black/missing textures.
3:2 aspect ratio lets you see the extra bit off screen without the black textures. anything wider will start showing black textures usually.

this of course isn't necessary on a 4:3 display (like an SD CRT).

but it doesn't cause stretching or cropping if that's what you were ultimately asking.

(at least not as far as I'm aware)

[final salmon]

A little stretching though I think. You can check the video I linked from the help page. Watch the car stretch horizontally. Seems perhaps the same for all settings of extra screen, all changing aspect ratio far as I can tell

[desert otter]

tbh the only game I've bothered to mess around with in widescreen and actually play was TR

different games might respond differently then to the hack.
that one it seems ever so slightly stretches with every aspect ratio on the 3D real time rendered stuff, and the static 2D HUD stuff just gets stretched (which makes sense)

so there is ultimately "stretching" but only on HUD elements in games that use a very simplistic type of HUD setup where it's a static 4:3 image that gets updated with transparency applied to see through, and it's programmed to simply "fill" the viewport. so when the viewport changes from 4:3 to something wider, it's just "filling" the space which causes it to be stretched

other games that have a more dynamic HUD might work more correctly.
and games with a type of HUD that looks fine when stretched will also be less noticeable, like in TR for example, where typically the only static HUD element is the health and breath bar in the top left, and it being elongated doesn't feel off at all.

2D fighting games also look pretty ok too when stretched

[final salmon]

For future reference of anyone looking at this PAL Aquanaut's Holiday does indeed have a flicker at the top of the screen on original hardware.
I guess it is inboard of the typical crop filter values, it is visible well inside the viewable area on a CRT, so I can imagine the crops probably don't tend to go so far

Interesting to see how quickly I forgot the flicker was there on CRT, but found it far more distracting over HDMI. +1 CRT's

[desert otter]

maybe on CRT it wasn't there back in the day because of overscan

and maybe the green values on your CRT were lesser coupled with low resolution and CRT mask and blending, it just literally wasn't as noticeable

[bright girder]

I’m putting together a list does anybody have any good suggestions for things that run significantly better or comically fast on the ps1 turbo core?

[cosmic tulip]

I run PSX2XCPU for a fully modded out (widescreen, no dithering) silent hill playthrough with no frame dips. Mostly for fun

[somber steppe]

Blasphemy. I always enjoyed psx dithering and think it's a rather charming graphics style.

[bright girder]

For Silent Hill on an lcd it’s a bridge too far for me, on a crt it still looks good… still better without though lol.

… with the 24 bit enabled I should clarify

[desert otter]

I don't know about comically fast, but games like Symphony of the Night run considerably faster

I don't think there's any game on the PS1 that will run like it's being put into hyper speed fast forward where the sound speeds up with it making it all high pitched in frequency.

You'll need an emulator to do that.

I would think a lot of 2D side scrollers where the game speed is tied to FPS and CPU clocks are going to be what gets the biggest "speed up" effect

[bright girder]

I have run into a few now that will run at almost double speed. Mega man battle and chase is so fast that you can barely drive lol

Luckily you can adjust the amount of turbo you want

[silent bridge]

My mindset on the 2XCPU core is that if I never had an issue with the original game, I’ll stick to the main core.
If I know the framerate is less than stable and it bothered me before, I’ll try turbo out.

[abstract drift]

quake2 gets a good boost

[mortal oracle]

Pretty sure I read someone call it the “Pro” core the other day. Can that be the name now, please? 😅

PSX Pro 😎

[tulip moat]

Makes me think of an alternative timeline, where Sony did make an upgraded PS1 model late in like 1999 or something. Like a stop gap because the PS2 got delayed and they made it in response to the Dreamcast launch.

[final salmon]

They did. This portable PS One

[devout kiln]

Any reason my fiio k7 will not control my volume with ONLY the PSX core? It works fine with all the other cores I have been using but with playstation it just stays at one volume no matter what. Analog out to RCA in

[serene nebula]

Pins updated. Please let me know if I need to add something. Thank you.

[desert otter]

What exactly is it that you updated?

[manic citrus]

I think it's a bot now. said the same thing in multiple channels

mods plz take care of this

[serene nebula]

Incorporated links to the fixed MDEC test core (dual and single) into the "official" pins

[tawny palm]

So Robby's new user name should be ROBby?

[bright girder]

That’s almost a Sonic Adventure pose

[frail storm]

MDEC fixes are already present on the latest release, if I'm not mistaken...

[ivory verge]

yes, correct

[mortal oracle]

Strip away his mod privileges!

[lusty coral]

When dumping my psx games. Should i save them as .chd? Is there any downside to using .chd?

[serene nebula]

You got this one @chilly kraken ?

[chilly kraken]

no.

there is a more complicated "chd may cause problems with the saturn core due to index 02 shenanigans, but the psx core isn't aware of index 02 so don't worry about it" answer, but the short answer is is "no, there is no downside on PSX"

[lusty coral]

Sweet, thank you

[serene nebula]

He got this one

[somber steppe]

So what's the downside on saturn then?

[chilly kraken]

let me massacre the information from Zakk's comments on the topic:

Basically, CHD doesn't take anything on the cuesheet beyond index 01, so if a cd has tracks at index 02 and beyond, they won't be indexed in the CHD. This doesn't matter on the PSX core because it doesn't know anything about index 02 anyway - but the saturn core does. I believe it just means that music tracks won't work properly - but there may be other implications

here is the mame bug: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/issues/10308

[somber steppe]

Aight, so is there any way to fix this?

[serene nebula]

I saw Zakk mention the mame devs have no interest in fixing it

And he also proposed a solution

So yes there’s a way, would likely require forking the chdman code base to do it

[manic citrus]

it's also only a handful of games that are impacted

I could do it without forking chdman, but you'd have to convert the game to an uncompressed chd, run a utility that parsed the cue and added mister-specific index metadata to the chd, and then recompress it

scriptable, but annoying

[serene nebula]

Could it be handled through a single batch file?

[manic citrus]

I mean, probably. but only needs to be done for the games it is an issue for. no sense in recompressing your entire library for this

and I need to look at exactly how the indices get used, it may be that I can generate subchannel data and do it the way mame will do it "one day"

[somber steppe]

One day is good enough. Thanks zakk!

[serene nebula]

I appreciate you dude.

🤜💥🤛

[abstract drift]

isn't the easiest workaround just to use bin/cue for these few games?

[dark mountain]

That's what I do.

[somber steppe]

It's certainly a minor issue but you still have to be aware of which ones have to be bin/cue and which ones are ok to have in chd. Kinda like the n64 patches before auto patching, the issue is of having to be aware of it imo.

[chilly kraken]

just uncompress everything and set yourself free

[serene nebula]

Yeah, I have all my games uncompressed on my external ssd

When transferring to MiSTer, I CHD compress them and move them over there. I don’t keep CHDs locally.

[manic citrus]

weirdo

[somber steppe]

All chd, all the way.

[final salmon]

Odd use case, between the various cores, can CHD's be read for music data? Like if I want to play Vib-Ribbon with PCE Ys 1+2 music

[manic citrus]

yeah

[golden fiber]

Anyone have a link to the latest dualRAM build?

[ivory verge]

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[serene nebula]

pins updated with the right links

[simple heath]

hi do you know how to make the vibration work on an 8bitdo sn30 pro wired? thanks

[solid seal]

@simple heath Is dualshock mode turned on?
If not try pressing L3+R3+Dpad Up

It should vibrate when you turn the MiSTer on too.
If it doesn't you may not have enough power. A 5v 3a PSU is the recommended minimum

[simple heath]

Vibrates but in PlayStation core it doesn't work

[solid seal]

ok - it's a per game basis too. I know Gran Turismo is a good test for controller vibration. What games have you tried? FYI I have a SN30 Pro wired too.

[serene nebula]

Grab Turismo then do rally mode and you’re golden for rumble

There’s also a controller test exe you run in the core that will vibrate if you push in both sticks I think

https://github.com/ShendoXT/padtest/releases

I’ll update the pins with that link

[simple heath]

Thanks everyone, I will also try to update the firmware

[trim compass]

Anyone know what this redline is in the PSX core

[silent bridge]

Unsafe option artifact?

[void scroll]

Widescreen option enabled?

[trim compass]

Some on my games say unsafe option enabled, but I believe this one loaded in the correct bios

[trim compass]

I don’t have it enabled I’m on all default settings and direct video

[desert otter]

Why are you on direct video if connected to what looks like an LCD? Unless that's an old LCD monitor and you are trying to use direct video with VGA

[trim compass]

Using morph 4K

[serene nebula]

yeah thats what the upscalies tell me, use direct video

[desert otter]

Might be an artifact of the converter you are using

[spring elk]

So pretty. 🥰

[tawny palm]

It's not a Pro. Fake fan!

[spring elk]

I wasn't able to obtain that $1K serialized bundle when it went up for pre-order... and believe me, I tried. I had to settle for plain vanilla. 😉

[chilly kraken]

I also tried. There are two on offer up in my area for 3k. If I can snag one for like 1200, I’d probably do it. But that won’t happen so I won’t worry about it

[serene nebula]

omg, model train Densha de Go - https://youtu.be/zGkPEjU447E

[waxen elk]

Woah

[tender tartan]

It’s pretty cool, being based on video capture like the Train Simulator Real series on PS2, and RailFan series on PS3.. A touch more choppy, though!

(Also, PSA to whom it may concern: Do check out RailFan on PS3, it’s awesome)

[lilac scaffold]

Something something n-gauge on MiSTer

[chilly kraken]

Only if it’s compatible with snac

[stable perch]

N-Gage is 104MHz ARM. Not likely

[rare gyro]

might as well use the HPS, its an ARM right? 😆

[lilac scaffold]

Just a dumb reference to the gauge of model train track in robby's link 🙂

[silent bridge]

Taco talkie

[weary patio]

Best phone I ever had. Still have it together with all the games. 🥳

[chilly kraken]

I'm calling the police

[cosmic tulip]

You ever hear the story/urban legend about why the button layout on the ngage is that way?

[spring elk]

Oh yes...

[desert otter]

bruh.

[cosmic tulip]

Heheheh

[lusty coral]

Don't suppose anyone has a link or can point me to the latest 2xpsx/turbo core please

[ivory verge]

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[lusty coral]

Thank you kindly. I'm finally looking forward to giving the core a go. (I just booted the standard core up with the game 40 Winks. Huge nostalgia hit)

[somber steppe]

Are there any downsides to 24bit render? Combined with turning off dithering it looks insanely good in silent hill.

[willow sundial]

Only down side I can think of is it breaks the underwater effect in metal gear solids intro when the sub passes. But that’s a minor thing

[nimble pond]

really? the horrible color banding on the streets didn't bother you?

[somber steppe]

24bit on vs off. Both without dithering. Sorry I don't see the banding with 24bit render enabled.

[hallow quartz]

you wont see banding with 24bit, thats why its such a nice option for those that dont like to see dithering

[serene nebula]

One downside is that you’re a heathen for disabling dithering, aka the greatest visual effect of all time.

[somber steppe]

I'm not against dithering per se, I think it's rather charming. I was just suprised that the fog actually looks like fog.

[serene nebula]

I wish I could dither real life

[mortal oracle]

I prefer to smear Vaseline on my glasses for the N64 look

(Or just removing them would do the same thing, I guess 😅)

[nimble pond]

Ok so its not enough to use HDMI, you actually have to activate 24bit rendering, as in, its not native to the console?

I guess I will give the psx library a try with this option on

[somber steppe]

Yeah you activate it in the psx core under audio and video. Where you also disable dithering.

[cosmic tulip]

There's a filter for that

[nimble pond]

I don't how I could have missed it 😂

has anyone else experienced hiccups in Elemental Gearbolt? I had to turn on 4x speed and other stuff to mitigate it

[serene nebula]

I have two PSX options. With the normal core I do 100% original and then I go buck wild with the turbo core.

[heady cypress]

Is there a separate core for the dual ram version of psx?

[ivory verge]

Yes

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[mortal oracle]

It’s basically pointless though 😅

[somber steppe]

I thought so as well until I installed a second ram stick for the saturn core. Now I think single ram cores are for plebs and amateur gamers.

[mortal oracle]

I mean, if you’ve got dual, why not? But at the same time, have fun manually scouring for builds whenever there’s an update

Saturn core is a different beast though

[manic citrus]

I think everyone should just ignore the dual sdram psx build

[somber steppe]

Grandia wouldn't stop flickering without it so there was no other choice. And I was already on a digital io board

[manic citrus]

like not even mention it exists when people ask about dual sdram cores

[somber steppe]

That would only increase it's allure when it's the secret and forbidden fruit.

[mortal oracle]

Just quote this:

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But I agree with you. It’s just increasing the maintenance burden and wasting CPU cycles building the rbf at this stage

[heady cypress]

I added a second ram stick for the new Saturn and Jag builds so just thought I’d ask after the psx core

[serene nebula]

be careful asking about that, Zakk will get you!

[heady cypress]

Sounds like the timing improvements aren’t even noticeable? Lol I’d rather keep the standard core just for the convenience of update all grabbing it

[manic citrus]

yeah, that's the thing. it's like zero practical advantage

and for that you trade the annoyance if never having it auto update, and getting to play the 'hey where can I get the new dual sdram build' anytime it is updated

[abstract drift]

It raises the black level in silent hill so areas that should be pitch black are dark grey instead

[mortal oracle]

I don’t remember the precise details (I’d have to look it up), but I’m pretty sure that the “problem” with the single ram core is that occasionally some sound samples are delayed by like… nanoseconds.

I think people are well intentioned when they say “you’d have to be a machine to tell the difference”, but I think that almost encourages people to go for it because people tend to think that maybe they’ll be the one to feel the difference. By using the numbers it really puts into context how small a difference it is. It’s really not worth the loss of auto updating, the additional CPU cycles to build the core etc imo.

[somber steppe]

Beep boop.

[mortal oracle]

@somber steppe Can tell the difference. Confirmed!

[desert otter]

@somber steppe You should turn on texture filling all and set it to 100% and see how it looks

[somber steppe]

A bit blurry!

[desert otter]

Lol.

[somber steppe]

Tried that and didn't like it too much tbh.

[desert otter]

I like 50% for most all games

It's just enough to smooth out the pixelated textures while not getting so blurry

[somber steppe]

I'm using mister with an rt4k, so if I want a blurry picture or crt style aesthetic I just use a profile on that.

[desert otter]

I don't use it for CRT aesthetic cuz I use it on a CRT lolol

I don't even know how it would even lend itself to an CRT look anyways

I use it because a lot of games textures are detailed in a way where it's just pure blocky and chunky pixels at a low resolution making them look messy and the texture filter helps soften those details to look more clean

But it doesn't work for every game

[somber steppe]

This is from when I played around with it in final fantasy

[eager sage]

Yeah, 24bit with dithering off is the only way I can play SH1. That game is so heavily dithered it’s distracting imo. It was really meant to be played with composite video blending the dithering.

I will say, it was pretty funny, though, playing with dithering off not in 24bit. Looked like a hellish fever dream.

[nimble pond]

So what happens if you apply anti dithering codes in silent hill on a real ps1?

Do you still get 24bit color?

I remember the first scph-1001 consoles had color banding on some games

[eager sage]

Nah, I remember My Life in Gaming covering it, you get that ugly color banding.

[desert otter]

you don't get 24bit to begin with on real hardware. forcing 24bit in the core is a hack basically. typically only video files (cutscene stuff) was 24bit on the PS1.

games themselves were outputting 16bit

which is why a composite signal helped a little coupled with the dithering

[tropic stratus]

ps1 cannot store 24bit from GPU to VRAM, only mdec(movie/still image) or CPU can draw 24bit.
24bit mode in the core will store the additional bits generated by the GPU somewhere else in DDR3.

And yes, some games(e.g. FF8) show flickering in the usually "hidden" lower 3 color bits that can be distracting, but most should be fine

[lusty coral]

I'm having so much fun with the PSX core.

I have only came across a few games that do not have a stable frame rate.

It makes me realise how the PS1 would run these games on actual hardware.

[tropic stratus]

try shadowman 😛

[lusty coral]

Oh, ok il have a look.

What also surprised me that Duke Nukem Time to Kill has a built in "game speed" setting.

[tropic stratus]

it's the worst performing game i came across, running sometimes as low as 6fps on the real console. With 2x cpu and turbo it gets kind of playable at 15fps+

[lusty coral]

Yeah I currently use the 2x CPU with a medium turbo I believe. Just to help with games like Harry Potter and Duke Nukem.

I'm also shocked how my TV supports these weird resolutions. Because of the video scaling mode I have set with the mister.

1624x1040 for Duke Nukem Total Meltdown.

[nimble pond]

Ah in that case maybe I tried de-dithering on a real console and thats why I saw the horrible banding on silent hill 2. The checkerboarding suddenly wasn't so bad 😅

[lusty coral]

Oh Both Land of the Babes and Time to Kill (Duke Nukem) have a built in Game speed slider. I wonder if it actually does anything

Seems like it just makes the game slightly faster (the gun firing speed has definitely changed)

Did some more testing. Land of the Babes seems to run amazing with turbo on High.

Time to kill, also has no more slowdown, however the framerate isn't capped so it will go up to 40 in some areas hahaha.

[desert otter]

another unplayable game that becomes playable when the CPU is overclocked to actually be somewhat decent is Re-Volt @lusty coral
it's a somewhat crappy RC car style racing game

[bitter lintel]

crappy but playable

[shut escarp]

I’ve got just the controller for it

[red lodge]

First time setting foot in this chat, sorry to bother you all.

Is there a compatibility list for this core? I don't see one in the pins (not referring to the GitHub issue list).

I ask because, this week, I've been playing the game Linda³ Again, and I'm at the end (of the first scenario).

Every time I try, the second half of the ending cutscene does not load on MiSTer, preventing me from clearing the game.

(Yes, the game files I have are Redump. No, I won't say anything about that beyond that.)

[abstract drift]

hi! everythings assumed compatabile at this point except the issues documented here:
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues

sounds like you may of found a new bug - you're playing the original jpn version ? no translation patches or anything? can you post a savestate nearby? someone can try to reproduce

[red lodge]

I'm playing the English fan translation patch.

There's been a couple of instances where I've encountered an enemy, then the battle wouldn't load, but like this, I don't know if that's a bug with the game, the patch, or the MiSTer.

I'm going to check it out in DuckStation. If it happens there, we can at least assume it's not the MiSTer's doing.

[abstract drift]

thats always a good idea

[serene nebula]

@red lodge It would be helpful in knowing if it’s a bug introduced by the patch by testing an unpatched version of the game.

If you don’t have the time or desire that’s understandable so no worries.

[red lodge]

I'm still slamming my head against trying to get DuckStation to read my save file from the MiSTer first.

[serene nebula]

Maybe this site can be of help?

https://savefileconverter.com/#/mister

[heady cypress]

Can’t mister mount a virtual memory card?

Or are you just messing with .sav

[serene nebula]

Yeah it can mount one

[heady cypress]

I think duckstation can take those .vmc files but not 100%

[red lodge]

That took far too long.

The converter you linked saved this endeavour, @serene nebula . Thank you.

[heady cypress]

How did you convert it?

Gotcha

[red lodge]

DuckStation reproduces the error.

The MiSTer isn't at fault. False alarm.

So, the plot thickens. Testing the JP version on DuckStation with the same save file.

[red lodge]

Works fine on the Japanese version. That settles it, it's a fault with the patch.

[serene nebula]

Thanks for going the extra mile and testing it all. You’re awesome!

[red lodge]

I'm an idiot. I was on an earlier version of the patch this entire time. Updating to the most recent version fixes this.

[serene nebula]

Not an idiot at all! That’s good to know, friend. If anyone ever runs into the same issue I’ll be sure to point them towards getting the latest version. Cheers! 🍻

[red lodge]

I have no idea how I downloaded such an outdated patch (it's nine versions behind), considering I only discovered the game last week.

[heady cypress]

Oh yeah that game got patched a ton the first few months after release

It’s on my list!!

[dark mountain]

I wasn't available before.
Yes, another user had the same error in the recent past.

Patch at fault.

[weak widget]

Just finished Final Fantasy VIII on PSX 2CPU core. Amazing experience, imo just as good as when I played it about 25 years ago. Thanks Robert for making that possible 🙏 Up next will be FF IX when I find the time and FF VII when the Beacause translation hits r07

[somber steppe]

Never played a ff7 retranslation. Is it that different?

[weak widget]

Yeah pretty much, its a very thorough retranslation. More info on https://thereunion.live/

[tropic stratus]

what is the advantage of the 2x cpu for FF8? I wasn't aware it has slowdown.

[desert otter]

does it not make the game run faster?

if so then it would be beneficial to not spending so much time slowly running around the world, and would make battles quicker

[weak widget]

I think I've experienced some slow down in very few battles when lots of animation was going on. I think in some battles this was intended (some boss fights). Then I switched to the 2CPU core and haven't experienced it since. Two things, it might have been just my perception and perhaps it's identical to real hardware.
Only problems I had were save states that froze sometimes when reloaded. And an issue that was already issued here https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/271. Squalls limit break in the ||final fight with Ultimecia|| is a little glitched. Haven't noticed that in other battles and I have used his limit break throughout the whole game a lot.

[desert otter]

I think save states work fine if you first turn off turbo mode, load the state, then enable turbo to high to get the 2x OC again

[random bridge]

I did a full run of Final Fantasy VII Beacause r06g (the current one) and there was a freeze just before that Aerith scene. I had to go back to the original to get past it and I could finish the game on the patched version afterward. I didn't know a r07 was planned?

[frail storm]

I read many horror tales about r06g, like increased minigame difficulty (bug), hangs after +40 hours into the game, etc...
There's an Steam PC Retranslation patch for the PSX version (available at a certain site that is romantic about cd-roms) which is supposed to be way better.

[weak widget]

So, the Reunion and its Because translation focuses on the PC version of FFVII. Beacause and some bug fixes were already ported by GreenGoblin over to the PSX version, with the latest version being R06g. This is a beta release with lots of changes but still far from the major/stable release R07.
Reunions R07 is set to be released somewhere next year, first for PC. After its release the creator will help GreenGoblin port R07 to PSX.

[somber steppe]

So the "good" release is still some way off and the current one freezes on mister? I'll wait then.

[weak widget]

That's what I do too, I will wait for R07. Really excited to play it but just have to be patient. It's mainly one person (atm) who works on it and it's a huge undertaking. Even though the translation is more or less considered final at this point. It's been underway for a very long time and I think it will be very worth it.

[somber steppe]

I have a modded psx in case the r07 version still freezes in the core, to verify whether it's a core thing or psx thing.

[desert otter]

as far as I'm aware, due to the nature of FPGA, if you have a game breaking issue in a modded version of the game, said issue should be present on original hardware as well.

[somber steppe]

Should, but always good to verify that it works on real hardware before hounding the core devs if it doesn't work on the core.

[random bridge]

Yes the parade mini-game was broken.

[random bridge]

OK, good to know! Except for the freeze and the parade mini-game I really liked this new translation.

[frail storm]

Well, the Steam Retranslation PSX version is supposed to be bugless...

[serene nebula]

General reminder that if you run into any perceived bugs in this core, always assume it's identical to real hardware or if running a patched game, it's a bug with the patch.

Not saying there can't be issues, but you absolutely need that mindset to make sure you're first testing it against real hardware or software emulators to corroborate your findings before reporting it!

[serene nebula]

But people reaching out and being proactive about improving the core is always welcome. Y’all are awesome for doing that. I’m just trying to set expectations and inform on how fantastic this core is.

[mortal oracle]

Did you just feel bad about your previous message? 😂

[serene nebula]

A little lol

[mortal oracle]

After you killed all conversation!

I have those moments too 😄

That said, I think oftentimes people will post in here to first verify if there’s an issue before they put it on GitHub. I suspect many want to rule out hardware/config variation, or just don’t have access to original hardware

(At least, that’s what I do)

[serene nebula]

I realized I came across as not valuing previous reports or had concern that I gave that appearance. I really do value them, I just think about people who don’t post and lurk and wanted to help guide them.

And to your point, I might’ve sounded like people shouldn’t be doing what you just said. I think that’s awesome, I would do that too.

[mortal oracle]

Nah, you’re good, dude. Plus people can just choose to ignore you

[serene nebula]

TRUE

[somber steppe]

So I shouldn't be playing romhacks on mister?

[mortal oracle]

Robby has decreed that you must not. Only play as Miyamoto intended!

[somber steppe]

So no sony or sega consoles!

Delete all your cores!

[tawny palm]

You guys need to learn the fine art of no forgiveness!

[gentle stump]

Is there a way to force 240p in the PSX core? I've got that option on an emulator in my GameCube and really like it.

[tulip moat]

Majority of games already run at 240p.

Unless you mean forcing 480i content to run at 240p?

[gentle stump]

Yep, that

[tulip moat]

There is a hack that can convert 480i to 480p, though your mileage may vary since some games glitch out when forced into 480p.

[tropic stratus]

you can use deinterlace bob for 240p

but the image will flicker around as expected

[desert otter]

Yeah, an emulator can do it because it can just take the frame buffer and then generate out at 240p, but this core isn't a software emulator, it's a a recreation of real hardware inside programmable hardware so it functions as real hardware would albeit with a few additions such as texture filtering and 24 bit output.

A software emulator has the flexibility of doing whatever it wants willy nilly because it's not really that beholden to the constraints of the original physical hardware, whereas FPGA is pretty much just that.

[mortal oracle]

I assumed that the 480p hack did essentially the same thing (just dumped out the frame buffer)?

[solid seal]

I tried and the 480p hack with Bob still makes a vibrating picture. Weave is stable, but you can't use fake scanlines to simulate 240p with weave.

[silent bridge]

Same here, hdmi user.

[solid seal]

Maybe 'deinterlacing: off' option if forcing 480p in the future?

[desert otter]

nope

cuz if you did that it would mess with games that don't play nice with said option, and maybe would affect analog users

[mortal oracle]

Bob and weave are deinterlacing methods (bob “vibration” is normal) - if you’re using the 480p hack, then the output is progressive, therefore you shouldn’t need deinterlacing in that case (since there’s nothing to deinterlace…)

(I know nothing about video output though, so I could be wrong, but that was my understanding)

But if you’re not using the 480p hack, and the (original) output is 480i, then you absolutely want to use bob or weave 😄

[desert otter]

I interpreted the message as saying that the option for deinterlacing or not should just be tied to the 480p option exclusively

[mortal oracle]

Ah, my bad 😄

[desert otter]

but also not sure if deinterlacing is necessary if you're outputting to HDMI with scaling cuz I think it's just using the frame buffer and scaling at that point isn't it?

and then if you do choose to use deinterlacing over an analog output, I would only have to assume it's because you are connecting to some really old LCD that has terrible deinterlacing tech, or really bad latency from letting the display do it itself (like a TV) cuz modern displays have really good and fast deinterlacing, and any of the three modern options for a scaler are also really good and fast

[sharp geyser]

Is this a known issue for ff tactics?

Sprites are in the wrong positions

[chilly kraken]

Can you make a save for that so others can test?

Save state is best

[viral inlet]

Yeah, that will happen if you have the widescreen hack on iirc

[somber steppe]

This is the intro scene iirc? When I tried it a few months ago I didn't notice any issues.

[sharp geyser]

Ahhh, I might have that turned on from when I was playing on an Oled

[viral inlet]

The last I encountered it was months ago so I have no idea if it's still doing it or not

When games are a mix of 2d sprites and 3d graphics you will sometimes get issues like that.

or at least I have previously. Haven't tested it in a while.

[sharp geyser]

Yup, turning the widescreen hack off fixed it. Thanks @viral inlet

[viral inlet]

No problem. I ran into the same issue.

[serene nebula]

PSX core continues its win streak!

[hot marsh]

So weird question, do you think it's possible to add buttons to a guitarfreaks controller? Like I want to add 2 more buttons and somehow let them be used in other unassigned buttons?

The later games need 5 guitar buttons and they're expensive in ebay like $850

[abstract drift]

any chance you could use like a rockband guitar on an adapter?

[bright yacht]

Might be able to with Santroller.

[abstract drift]

oh or since we're talking about mister, just use a rockband guitar? (no adapter required)

[somber steppe]

Is there a loss in information when converting a bin/cue with several bins to chd and later back to bin/cue? Since it's only one bin after converting back.

[chilly kraken]

that's a Zakk question

[manic citrus]

no, the data should be the same. ignoring any stuff like multi-index that chd doesn't support. but just split bin -> chd -> single bin should not lose information

[somber steppe]

Thank you. 🙏 I noticed koudelka freeze on me, but could not replicate. I've been using chd but I'll go with bin/cue for the rest of the game. If it happens again I'll try harder to replicate it and report.

[vestal thicket]

How’s the Arc the Lad series? Are the Working Designs PSX versions the one to play?

[spring elk]

Not amazing, but not terrible. I'd consider them decent.

[tawny palm]

The first game feels more like a prologue to the main event that is Arc the Lad 2. Arc the Lad 2 is legit awesome in my opinion. It does things in its narrative that few RPGs do. The third game is okay, but very much feels like a step down from the second game.

[lusty coral]

Is there a scanline toggle for the PSX core?

[solid seal]

For scandoubling? No, since you can't scandouble 480i and it's disabled for the core since there are many 480i games. You'll have to use a filter with scanlines

And if the video is 480i you'll have to use Bob deinterlace for the scanlines to show up (the video will vibrate though)

Scanlines are really a property of 240p only

[lusty coral]

Ok sweet. Thank you. Still learning with the Mister 🙂

Tell you what though. Spyro Year of the Dragon is running like a dream. I just use that 2x core with a medium turbo.

[desert otter]

I think instead of scanlines you should look at just using a CRT mask filter only with PS1 @lusty coral

Cuz you only get noticeable scanlines IRL if the TV is like 32" or a high quality PVM.
Otherwise the lines are squished together enough on smaller cheaper consumer sets that you don't really see scanlines

[lusty coral]

Ah I see.

I've never really bothered with scanlines before you see. It was only when I tried the SNES core with scanlines and it looked amazing.

[desert otter]

simpler pixel games like NES, SNES, Gameboy, etc. might look a bit better with scanlines, but 3D games like PS1 don't benefit much and it's the CRT mask that makes them look a little more "blended" together with the graphics.

@lusty coral check out some of these presets from Robby https://github.com/RGarciaLago/VIDEO_PRESETS_by_Robby

according to the github they are now a part of the main mister repo so if you happened to do update_all and are running the latest updates they should actually be in your MiSTer options already

otherwise you can manually add them by following instructions

some people here seem to like the JVC filter (already comes with MISTer)

robby's "Console - 5thGen" preset might also be good.

[lusty coral]

Thank you very much. Il give it a look the next time I'm on my mister 🙂

[noble topaz]

Has anyone experienced controller issues with the PSX core lately? I just booted up CTR and the X button don't work even if I remap the buttons. I'm updating the unit now but we'll see if this resolves the issue. I played on both the original core and the unstable core and the result is the same

[lusty coral]

Not recently, I was playing Spyro Year of the Dragon yesterday and the controller seemed fine.

[serene nebula]

It’s an issue on your end. Either bad mapping or controller problems. Delete your controller configs and try again.

Make sure to map your controller in the main menu and fully complete the process, hitting the user button to skip any inputs you don’t need, such as mouse inputs.

[noble topaz]

Yeah i just tested another controller after the update and you are right, its the controller

the xbox controller has LED lights, its probably the lights that disrupts the inputs

[serene nebula]

Interesting, what do you mean?

[noble topaz]

its a PDP xbox controller wired, it has LED lights that glow and shimmer with rhythm

Trying to find some solution to turn it off completely

[serene nebula]

Oh ok, I don’t think the LEDs will mess with the input process, which is good news. I think if you remap the controller in main and then map it again in the PSX core it should fix itself.

[noble topaz]

alright i remapped the controller in the menu and the core and the issue still remains, X button dont work at all

tried different remapps but still no results

[serene nebula]

That’s so weird

I’m sorry that usually fixes it

[solid seal]

The LEDs on the controller might be a power draw issue

[serene nebula]

Ohhhh! Didn’t even think of that.

[noble topaz]

Yeah I turned it off but it seems to still not work. I'm almost suspecting that the unit can't handle inputs from an Xbox controller. I've tried with other Xbox controllers and they don't work. The only controller that work is my arcade stick which has a brook chip and it automatically changes to preferred console on plugin

Just gonna buy a couple of 8bitdo controllers since they are recommended by the input delay guide I found while googling

[solid seal]

Just for the record, what's the voltage and amperage of your power supply?

[noble topaz]

I just bought a 5V adapter which I got recommended from the mister help thread

[desert otter]

All adapters have to be 5v. I think copy wants to know the amps

[noble topaz]

I used to have a weaker variant ( the one that comes in the box) which is 0.4a

Yeah sorry the Amp for the new one is 0.6a

[desert otter]

That's not enough

You need at least 2a

[solid seal]

3a is recommended

[noble topaz]

Welp, i just got the new adapter home...

After I got recommended to buy that specific one from the help thread

This has to be more standardized since now I've basicly wasted more money on a faulty adapter

[desert otter]

I use a 2A just fine honestly. Can support 4 PS4/5 controllers at once with vibration

But more never hurts to have

[buoyant plinth]

Yeah, I run an mt32pi off my 2A, as well as the MiSTer and accessories

But 0.6Aa is below the required power

[noble topaz]

Last time I'm asking advice from the help thread....

Ait do you guys have a link for the adapter?

[solid seal]

Is it a De10 or a MiSTer Pi?

[noble topaz]

I'll buy it the next payment

It's a De10

[solid seal]

De10 should have come with a 5v 2a one

[buoyant plinth]

That’s the same one I’m still using, from the DE10 box

[noble topaz]

Hmmm i think I'll just show a picture instead

[buoyant plinth]

5V 4A you’re fine 😉

The Mean Well is the 👑 of psus for MiSTer

[desert otter]

Lol. The .6a is input not output

Then if your controller isn't working it might be the controller

[solid seal]

Maybe try deleting your controller profiles? I haven't had any issues with Xbox 360 or One controllers myself

[buoyant plinth]

HOWEVER the USB ports are basic USB2 and limited to 0.5A each, so your flashylights controller may still be a problem

[desert otter]

If you have a PC can test your Xbox controllers on there

[noble topaz]

How do I remove controller profiles?

Yeah I turned the leds off completely so that's not the issue right now I think

Google doesn't give me good answers for deletion of controller profile

[solid seal]

/media/fat/config/inputs

[noble topaz]

So i presume to just delete the profiles and the unit will not give me any problems afterward? Haven't dabbled with the mister on this level before so just checking

[desert otter]

Deleting the profile just means that the mister will make a brand new one with defaults

[noble topaz]

Aah i see 👍

[solid seal]

Yeah you'll just have to remap them from the main boot menu first (a general mapping for MiSTer itself)

Then do it again after the core is launched

[noble topaz]

So it's remapping the controller in the psx core and then remapp in the game?

And also remapp in the mister menu of course

So it's a total of three remaps needed if I understand it correctly

Mister - psx core - CTR game

[desert otter]

I don't think you can map a controller per game unless the game itself has a controller remapping feature inside its settings

[noble topaz]

Ah gotcha

[desert otter]

Like wipe out for example I think lets you remap the controller

[solid seal]

Just 2 places

Here first

When you first turn on the MiSTer

[desert otter]

I see you are a man of culture. Gaming in a winter wonderland

[noble topaz]

Alright I'll try that, gonna go to bed now since work is tomorrow. Appricitate all the help guys 😊👍

[solid seal]

Then here

[noble topaz]

I'll let you know if I got it running, to be continued

[lusty coral]

Time to enjoy some Resident Evil Survivor.

It's a shame some PS1 games have an uncapped framerate.

[tulip moat]

A silver lining is that those games are a prime candidate for the turbo features and the 2x CPU core.

[lusty coral]

Yeah, that's what I normally use. Except it jumps from 30 to 45 and just keeps jumping

(looking at Duke Nukem Time to Kill and Rugrats).

[oblique glade]

Isn't that a good thing compared to like a locked 15 or 20 FPS?

[tulip moat]

Having a stable frame rate is better since it just makes everything more consistent.

If you are playing a game and the performance is incredibly unstable, it can cause a slew of problems, ranging from dropped inputs to actually causing motion sickness.

That's why there are people that are particularly fussy about having a high smooth framerate in their games.

[oblique glade]

Interesting. I'll have to try that Duke Nukem game to see if it affects me, I'm not sure it does though. I wonder if it's like how some people get headaches from the strobe effects of OLED while being perfectly fine with IPS (on phones screens).

[lusty coral]

Id rather a locked 30 than an uncapped framerate which constantly jumps from 30-45.

[mortal oracle]

I agree, but would you rather have 15-30 over 30-45? 😉

Because I think that’s often similar to what happens when using the turbo cores. You go from “low fps and unstable” to “moderately higher fps and still unstable” 😄

[abstract drift]

you could try using the regular core and selectively enabling some turbo options to try and get it to a solid 30

[oblique glade]

That's a thing? How the F did I not know about turbo functions in the normal core?

[abstract drift]

yeah, they've been there for ages

[oblique glade]

I need to peruse the settings more I suppose. Outside of CRT filters I don't touch them much

[abstract drift]

the 2x core also goes like, even faster with those on

[oblique glade]

LOL

You mean I can make Ghost in the Shell even faster? Hot damn.

[abstract drift]

just as with all unsafe options you may encounter crashes etc

[oblique glade]

For sure. Science!

[abstract drift]

Koudelka is my favorite game to turbo, totally smooths out the fps and speeds up battles to a bearable pace

we tried to implement a 30fps cap at one point in early development but it didn't work out unfortunately

since some games break really hard above that

[oblique glade]

Like for games that have a lower hard cap? i.e. GTA and Twisted Metal 2 being locked at 20?

[abstract drift]

no for games that run at 30 but with some drops

to let you smooth them out without them freaking out and hitting 60, depends how the games vsync was setup

resident evil is one of them, its very funny with turbo on, runs at like 40+ fps and all the gameplay logic goes insane

like your torso runs off and leaves your legs behind insane

[tulip moat]

There should be patches that caps the frame rate.

[lusty coral]

I use the turbo core anyway. Most of the games id want to play are locked at 30 with the 2x core and turbo. It's just a couple of games that are uncapped. But what I can do is follow the advice from Freedom and try the regular core with turbo.

[somber steppe]

"Enjoy" is a strong word for playing that game.

[mortal oracle]

Survive?

[somber steppe]

||it's really bad||

[mortal oracle]

Isn’t it better if you play the Japanese/European versions? Where they actually have light gun support

I do remember it being panned very heavily back in the day though

A shame, cos it sounded like a good idea

[somber steppe]

It's even worse with the gun!

[mortal oracle]

Oh 😂

[tulip moat]

Yeah it does have that budget Tose stank to it.

I don't hate that company necessarily, as they have made good games, but they do slip into that trapping of being that company publishers go to for a quick and cheap project pretty often.

[sinful thicket]

Playing Final Fantasy VIII (8) currently and noticing some weird horizontal black line(s) that momentarily pop up then disappear, especially when opening/closing the menu.

Not a huge bother but I figure someone else already knows which setting is responsible. I’m outputting over HDMI to my LG C1. 1920x1440 resolution

[void scroll]

Maybe try fixed vblanks, sync 480i to HDMI, and black transitions?