Sony PlayStation

[hot marsh]

It was like $3 for a broken one with a dualshock

That was sold with a rare but shitty controller. Couldnt resist

[ivory verge]

I once wanted to use a broken ps and make myself a snac , but overall I preferred a smaller size solution.

[hot marsh]

I was just too cheap to buy a snac with memslots

Was supposed to customize it for proper 7.5 v but got lazy

[hot marsh]

I may have complained about the jogcon bastard but it has an amazing dpad

[iron nova]

Anybody else play the romhack of the resident evil ? The true directors cut ? I use to be able to play it but now when I try on the recent build and unstable, it just stays on the bios boot up

[ivory verge]

i will check

[iron nova]

Thank ye

[abstract drift]

which version are you using?

[iron nova]

The psx build ?

[abstract drift]

no the true directors cut

0.4? dualshock or original ost?

[iron nova]

Oh right, original ost

[abstract drift]

cool, just checking it myself

ultimate directors cut is still fine

[iron nova]

Any idea on what could be different ?

I’ve tried rebooting. Turning fast boot on and off, all unsafe options off.

[abstract drift]

not sure, there were some cd related changes i think

have you got the plain dualshock version handy? the one this patch is based on

would be good to see if it still works

[iron nova]

No just original ost but I can try and see

[abstract drift]

its the worst version, even i don't keep it around 😄

i bet kuba has it tho

true directors cut seems fine here

[cinder aspen]

I run into a issue with the latest core with the game Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat (USA). The game displays a black screen after the second mission "Escort To Holst"

All default settings, I've tried two different redump's, one CHD and other BIN/CUE

Turbo and other common workarounds don't seem to work

[ivory verge]

Please share savestate

[ivory verge]

Thanks

[ivory verge]

yeah , confirmed

I can't find any workaround for the problem

@cinder aspen please create issue on github

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues

[cinder aspen]

thanks for confirming!

will do

[ivory verge]

crashes after reading data , maybe CD issue

[abstract drift]

did resident evil work for you kuba?

(true directors cut)

[ivory verge]

one sec.

yes, works fine v.04

Resident Evil - True Director's Cut (Original OST) v0.4

everything works ok in this game

dualsdram 20230330 and latest stable core 0503

[abstract drift]

cool

@iron nova maybe try replacing your image?

[iron nova]

Okay I’ll try that now and see

[iron nova]

Nope. Still black. I dunno what it is. I didn’t alter the file and had played it many times before just fine. Game is also running fine in duckstation

[ivory verge]

strange

Where did you get the game image from ? ( no links )

[iron nova]

I honestly can’t remember. But it is the right slus- 00747

I think the atract redump

[ivory verge]

check from another source

[rancid anchor]

I'm having some similar problems, with unverified good dumps that used to boot and now don't (castlevania single bin and tales of destiny 2 single bin were the ones I know offhand)

both were from dumped from personal copies, likely using imgburn or dvd decryptor, can't really remember

single bin/single track stuff that I dumped seems to work fine

[abstract drift]

there were some changes to single-merged-bin lately

[rancid anchor]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/commit/e1e4ff5c67519b70fc0831ccb9d38ade06b88822

looks like there is a fix?

[manic citrus]

there was a fix for pregap that got merged last week. previously there was some changes to single bin/multi track that fixed some things, but the pregap issue snuck in with that

[iron nova]

@ivory verge @abstract drift I FINALLY FIXED IT! Thank you for helping. Sorry to waste your time over dumb stuff but I was in confusion

[abstract drift]

no worries

what was the issue in the end?

[iron nova]

My cue file was off by 1 space

[abstract drift]

ah

[final plaza]

@iron nova CHD is the way

[hot marsh]

Are there any non chd titles?

[weary patio]

Have six of those PSone consoles and all lasers died. ☹️

[final plaza]

@hot marsh CHD is just a format that is a compressed bin/cue into a single CHD file. Think like a ZIP or RAR file.

for more info: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/CHD-files/

[hot marsh]

yup, just wondering if for some reason there's an incompatibility

[hot marsh]

I mean, I had 2 ps1s and they both died of different causes on normal use, probably the only reason why I haven't bought one and setup xstation (if I didn't know MiSTer existed)

[weary patio]

I'm very thankful for the core, wonder sometime what I should do with my 400+ physical PSX Games.

[ivory verge]

I'll take all 😛

[weary patio]

I bet you do. 😂

[ivory verge]

no problem, you don't have to worry about anything anymore haha

nah

keep the games 🙂

[weary patio]

Hahaha, yeah it's just to nostalgic. Love to check them out from time to time, but it's a lot less then before MiSTer.

[ivory verge]

even for sentiment if not their value

[weary patio]

Never started collecting for the money, I only buy games that gave sentimental value. 😊

[wanton crown]

tbh I've sold every PS1 title I owned just a few weeks ago thanks to mister. Not looking back

I should be thankful to people who'd still buy some of my games for a high price somehow

for it makes your realize the average person doesn't even know about ODEs, and even less about FPGAs and mister project. And even when they know, they don't make the jump. By experience that's what I always see, even among retro enthousiasts

[ivory verge]

I do not collect games, I have some , but only games that have special sentimental value for me

[wanton crown]

I'm mostly only keeping pokemon games now

[ivory verge]

I like more "all in one" solution, so MiSTer is perfect 🙂

[serene nebula]

I collect games, MiSTer kinda killed that for me lol

[ivory verge]

well, kill the mister 😛

[serene nebula]

I’ve got close to 450 PS1 games

I’m basically tapped out, outside of a few expensive games

[tulip moat]

It's kind of insane that 450 PS1 games isn't even close to the amount of PS1 games that were officially released.

[hot marsh]

@serene nebula, name 5 games you wish you could get

[oblique frost]

it's... it's just five copies of bubsy 3d

[serene nebula]

Sure

• Remote Control Dandy
• Valkyrie Profile
• Vanark
• Silent Bomber
• Speed Power Gunbike (to get signed by my friend who’s owner of IntiCreates)

[ivory verge]

your collection is complete

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-almighty-jim-carrey-red-sea-weird-face-gif-16559596

[oblique frost]

4 more copies to go

[serene nebula]

It doesn’t get much better than this:

[serene nebula]

the game is pricey for being horrible lol

[oblique frost]

that's why you should wata grade it

preserve that investment

[serene nebula]

Here’s, I think the only PS1 game with a purple label

[foggy quiver]

It would be cool if you could connect a usb cd writer and boot real cds on MiSTer 🙂

[ivory verge]

it's not that easy 🙂

[bright yacht]

Oh man, I love Remote Control Dandy, and most games from Sandlot too. EDF! EDF! EDF!

[storm barn]

Do you have Chicken Run?

[serene nebula]

Nah, should I?

[storm barn]

Not really, it is just a game that I like. Also there is a Dreamcast version.

Ray Tracers is great too.

[serene nebula]

Yeah I’ve got that one, real fun!

Like a modern chase hq

[hot marsh]

@serene nebula, when are you getting the tambourine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5AeGGEMuvk

[serene nebula]

When I can just get the tambourine for cheap

[hot marsh]

probably japan

it's hella expensive on ebay

I just hope it's not just a box

I literally bought this variant " - The machine is empty, no game disk provided."

I'm assuming it's missing the game only since the price diff was like $4 only

do you have any of the fishing controllers? Worth it?

[serene nebula]

they’re ok, they work surprisingly well

[hot marsh]

would you recommend them?
Thinking of just buying 4 more controllers and calling it quits

[serene nebula]

I have some third party one that’s a little wonky with the modes but once you figure out what mode to put it in, works great

I mean if you like fishing games. There’s a couple of decent ones.

[hot marsh]

mostly because no other stores are selling new controllers lately

I mean, I liked the one in breath of fire 3 lol

the sega dreamcast ones were okay

despite the wonky analog mine had (it's not physically centereD)

[serene nebula]

I’d say go for it if you can get it for cheap and you should be able to, nobody clamoring for fishing on PS1 lol. There’s quite a few fishing games though, surprisingly.

[hot marsh]

Yeah, I think I'll end up getting that stupid conductor tact controller

since there's like 4 games for it

at least I won't feel bad for it unlike the tambourine that only works with 1 game

[hot marsh]

aww store that sold the tambourine cancelled the order, it was apparently out of stock
sadly had to buy the more expensive, unused, but complete one from ebay

it will probably take 3 months for me to get it

[forest trench]

There was a full boxed tambourine + game set at my local hard off a month or 2 ago, for about $5
Problem is I don't have a lot of space for limited use peripherals

[hot marsh]

Wow. Wish i saw it i stead of the $6 controller with $60 shipping

[forest trench]

There's also a boxed Saturn twin stick for $30 I've been ignoring for the last few months

[oblique frost]

yeah I've seen one of those at a hard off nearish to me, though the box looks a little rough

[forest trench]

I actually prefer when they don't keep stuff shrink-wrapped in its box
I'd prefer to see the condition
At least with consoles they'll put the box lid underneath before wrapping

[oblique frost]

yeah I prefer buying loose, mostly just because boxes are wasted on me.

[random gust]

You would probably want a twin stick boxed though.

Unless you are Really Really Big Man.

[bright yacht]

I'm looking into alternative ways to make a Samba de Amigo controller. Love the game but my maracas are dead. If I can make another one, it might be possible to convert it into this ps1 device too.

[forest trench]

A Samba set is actually one thing I do want eventually, my kids would get a kick out of it (using Wiimotes just doesn't seem the same)

[buoyant plinth]

Geez. I was expecting nonsense but uk eBay sellers are asking near £400. Japan stays stable at £130 free postage.

[bright yacht]

I did a proof of concept version of Samba de Amigo VR. It feels great to play using vr controllers. Need to finish this project.

The original maracas (and probably the ps1 tambourines) are interesting. It uses ultrasound to know it's position. On the dreamcast each maraca reports X and Y just like an analog stick.

I've also mapped the vr controllers to output as a dual analog stick and been able to play on dreamcast emulator. This is another thing that I might explore in the future. Might be also possible to use ps3 move controllers and camera for this. So many options 🙂

[forest trench]

Pretty cool
Could you get that to work with a real DC?

[tulip moat]

https://twitter.com/keke_094/status/1656287503639519233?t=GNHKUHRTun0spM1BRtCA1Q&s=19

Poros Neustein (Commission OPEN) (@keke_094)

Ginga Ojousama Densetsu Yuna 3: Final Edition (PS1) English Patch is out today by Supper & Mafoo343 again!

this game is a sequel & Enhanced Port from the Sega Saturn and developed by Red Company same team behind of Tengai Makyou & Sakura Wars series.

https://t.co/YBYjPkNit8

Twitter · May 10, 2023, 1:18 PM

[bronze pulsar]

Oooh

[bright yacht]

It might be possible with the ps3 move controller. The vr controller (I use the Quest2) requires the headset too. I's tracked by the position of the headset.

[bronze pulsar]

@deft sphinx you got this in your updater script yet?

[opaque vector]

Anyone else having trouble with analog input? My f310 won't use the sticks anymore in xinput mode. Think it's on the linux/backend side.

I will say the digital buttons are working way better though. There was some button issue before that made tony hawk tricks not hit right.

[deft sphinx]

Sorry, what have I missed?

[bronze pulsar]

Wrong channel sorry

Saturn cores are dropping

[manic valley]

Weebs

https://youtu.be/a3egbaw-VK4

[pearl shell]

Lol Taco

[hot marsh]

Is there a chance we can have guitar freaks as a controller?

It's kind of a mess using other guitar controllers with it

Due to them lacking buttons and conflicting button assignments

Although only 1 game will benefit (technically 2)

[serene nebula]

You mean as a controller option in the core? The Guitar Freaks controller works perfectly though SNAX.

[bright yacht]

I was looking into how the densha de go controller works on ps1. It's a puzzle mess!
https://marcriera.github.io/ddgo-controller-docs/controllers/classic/tech/

[hot marsh]

It does but how about for other people that have only guitar hero controllers. It is a horrible experience due to keymapping problems

[hot marsh]

Strangely it can be used on switch via adapter

[bright yacht]

any ps1 to switch adapter? or custom one?

as I see, the adapter must understand how the ps1 device encodes the info

the official switch controller (ZKNS-001) outputs the power and brake handles as analog stick.

[lost coyote]

On Composite through Direct Video, is resolution switching (psx games) seamless using this Rankie HDMI to VGA adapter https://www.amazon.com/Rankie-HDMI-Adapter-3-5mm-Audio/dp/B00ZMV7RL2 connected to the Mister Addons YC Active board?
Also, how is the quality of the audio out from this?

[serene nebula]

lol you have the opposite problem I do. I want a Guitar Hero controller but only have Guitar Freaks. 😢

[rigid lintel]

gotta find my ipad power cable so i can run update all lol

[hot marsh]

Aren't they common?

[serene nebula]

Maybe I dunno, I should really check

[hot marsh]

the only harder to find ones are the live ones (at a good prince) since iOS version is trash and most people have lost the dongles

but not as bad as wavebird gc controllers

[bright yacht]

Even without the dongle, it can be modded using ardwiino. Actually, most of the GH and RB devices can be directly wired to an ardwiino device.

[hot marsh]

yeah that's the probable best option for low lag

at least dtxmania has lag adjustment

albeit manual.

if I didn't get my guitars relatively cheap, I probably would have done that wired mod

at least I get to use it on Wii U's revived guitar hero servers

[meager parrot]

Full playthrough of Korokoro Post Nin on the PS1 core, using a JogCon for control:
https://youtu.be/cBvUfjvNgQg

The game doesnt support JogCon natively- I'm testing out a work-in-progress USB adapter board from MiSTer Addons & sonik called "Reflex Adapt" that gives the game perfect controls when using a JogCon.

[hard laurel]

Same for me. Its so good with how the cores work, I have stopped buying games.

I have got a few hundred PS1 games and also a lot of Demo Discs including some of the less common ones.

[hot marsh]

I just collect controllers for ps1

[serene nebula]

I do both 😭

[hot marsh]

Maestromusic any good?

[serene nebula]

I never even heard of that game until now LOL. You’re on another level than me.

https://youtu.be/O6AenVAOQuw

Wild

[hot marsh]

Yes. I'm poor lol

[shut escarp]

this looks horrificly unfun

[hot marsh]

Yeah up and down waggle

Might as well do wii music

Surprisingly there's like 4 games

[bright yacht]

The Mad Maestro controller uses the negcon protocol. Should be usable with most usb adapters :p

[bitter lintel]

good GOD my brain couldn't take those character noises for more than thirty sec.... twenty five seconds.

[meager parrot]

Simbaaaaaa

I got through it imagining she was just a massive Lion King fan 😅

[bitter lintel]

jesus. lål.

[pearl shell]

25 seconds or 25 years??

[hot marsh]

Wonder if it works with a wiimote's waggle

[bitter lintel]

25 seconds

[pearl shell]

Hahaha, how ya doin BasketSnake?

[tacit fox]

Trolling 🙃

[bitter lintel]

no i'm not. that's an insanely annoying noise coming from the character in the game

[bronze pulsar]

Couldnt be any worse than the insanely annoying noise coming out of your mouth. Begone, long one

[bitter lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-seagal-eating-carrot-healthy-living-gif-9753152

[bronze pulsar]

Yeah, stuff something long and hard in there

[serene nebula]

Yeah can confirm, they squeak like birds every two seconds

It’s an alright game when you mute it. The music and sound effects are both uniquely terrible in their own ways.

[bitter lintel]

can you mute the bathead too?

it squeaks like a squirrel

[austere otter]

Chill dude, wtf!

[bronze pulsar]

😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5MQJvtwuXI

[bitter lintel]

where have you been for the past two months? we've all turned savages now. please update and educate yourself.

maybe try.....

https://tenor.com/view/michaelscott-wink-yes-you-know-it-gif-13342379

[austere otter]

google? 😆

[bitter lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/google-gif-25414271

[austere otter]

Just seeing a noob crapping on Basket, we cant have that 🙂

[bitter lintel]

while some snakes shed their skin, i don't. mine just hardens over time to the point where i can't slither no more. i just kind of crawl along the ground and all weebs, harsh comments and toxicity just bounce off.

[tacit fox]

Why is this boy featured here? https://twitter.com/triedwrong/status/1657385857593245696?s=46&t=kFgqKaZfad7RP45XrRNgGg

They tried but it went wrong 😆 (@TriedWrong)

Rip in advance 😂

Likes

79446

Retweets

9209

▶ Play video

Twitter · May 13, 2023, 2:02 PM

[bitter lintel]

well

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-umm-what-what-gif-14694719

[tacit fox]

You’re just a cane now

[bitter lintel]

gonna have to give the PLAYSTATION channel a breather

see you in #spicy-off-topic (plebs) or #general-banter (noobs)

[bronze pulsar]

"noob"

[austere otter]

look at the icon next to your name

[bronze pulsar]

I see it. It's of an ancient wallachian

Oh, the other icon

I am the forever not noob

[bronze pulsar]

I had the original longcase on PSX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNSLlhITnZA

Neato

[hot marsh]

Japanese one had a different OST from the Saturn and western releases. The Japanese version had voices for some reason on some tracks and it was not as good. Weirdly, the first game is english only for the ending

I fucking hated how cheap the 2nd to the last boss was. Meanwhile the last boss is a joke

[meager parrot]

a look at the Quantum 3D "brick" gpu cluster with 8 Voodoo 2's linked

https://youtu.be/D24ueW8G0-w

[hot marsh]

I forgot about how they tried to localize Gunbird for PS1

as Mobile Light Force with an unrelated cover

then they did it again with Castle of Shikigami as Mobile Light Force 2 for PS2

with literally the same cover with a 2 slapped on

[shut escarp]

Lol interesting, didn’t know that

I have castle of Shikigami 2 but didn’t know about 1

[lost coyote]

Just found about the Namco System 12 version of Un Jammer Lammy
https://youtu.be/60Yint14Hs0

It has content not found in the PS1 release.

Hope someone soon makes a core for the System 11 and 12, for Tekken Tag and Soul Calibur.

[manic valley]

NHL 2000

https://tenor.com/view/ea-sports-game-gaming-gif-17138016

[wanton crown]

I just got two brand new 128 mb sd ram (rev 3.0 but that shouldnt matter)

and no glitches in game 🙂

[tacit fox]

How are they going with saturn core?

[wanton crown]

Nice I guess, I've done a full one-credit playthrough of time gal on saturn core

But not sure what "edge case" games are on saturn core

[tacit fox]

I only get white screen on Sega Rally 😔

[ivory verge]

It will probably start working with the next core, then stop again 🙂

[lost coyote]

If i can read japanese, which version of Grandia should I play: PS1 or Saturn?

[serene nebula]

PS1 just to make the Saturn fans angry

“Bu bu bu bu it’s better! The graphics look 3% more accurate!”

It’s the same game. PS1 core works now and you can save progress.

[oblique frost]

if you can read Japanese then don't play games and just sit here lording it over everyone that you don't need translation patches

[tulip moat]

I might be misremembering, but isn't the PS1 version more prone to slowdown?

[lost coyote]

Well you know, versions of console games localized to my native language hardly exist.
For better or worse, we get on by playing games only in English or Japanese.

[oblique frost]

Well dang good on you for being (at least) trilingual. I was just trolling with that comment haha 🍻

[lost coyote]

Quad. National language is different from regional language.
I guess these are third world things 💅

[oblique frost]

🙇‍♂️

I'm still struggling with the bilingual thing and it makes my head spin. Respect

[serene nebula]

Im trilingual too and I can’t force myself to forget French

Sure glad I learned that language, it’s been absolutely useless for me lol

[mystic violet]

English / Dutch / German and probably my dialect can be seen as a another language since part of the Netherlands might not be able to understand me if I use it 😄

[wanton crown]

I know 5 languages among which French and English but the only one worth mentioning is Japanese

[bright yacht]

Anyone know if duckstation have a official discord server?

I want to collaborate on the project but there's no way to contact it's author. The github repo does not accept issue report. Only way is to send a PR.

[lost coyote]

Yes it has
But i think it's not easy to enter at this time?

[bright yacht]

I've found a link on a tweet but it does not work anymore

[lost coyote]

There's been some drama, but a lot of it are harrasers and Android users that are against him.

Ask Robert though as he has contacted him the past months. I'm just merely a discord kid.

[oblique frost]

I managed to forget my French, was pretty good with it in highschool and never used it since, so I leave that off my language list

[mystic violet]

https://tenor.com/view/seagall-closeup-meanlook-gif-20975873

[hot marsh]

@serene nebula , martial beat controller worth it?

oh nevermind the controller is missing the action parts.

[manic valley]

Yes it is .. but I wonder how it runs on the psx2x core ..

[hot marsh]

so is it possible to have a 3x core?

I kind of hope some games would bug out like tales of symphonia on 60fps

for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QPBSeIvJt8

[mystic violet]

@hot marsh use duckstation

[random gust]

Woah, now with 2000 percent more bowing.

[tropic stratus]

Stenzek is in the psx.dev discord: https://discord.com/invite/psx-dev-642647820683444236

i only ever contact him once to talk about some issues in duckstation i could resolve, but i think he fixed all of them in a different way in the end 🙂

[hot marsh]

With regards to SNAC, no controller really requires true 7.5V right?

[bright yacht]

JogCon can be weak with low voltage. But "does not requires" 7.5v.

[bright yacht]

Got in touch. Thanks!

[lilac scaffold]

Early model memcard pros need it, but we have virtual memcards with snac now.
Also not a controller 🙂

[lost coyote]

https://youtu.be/uE50msGhvyY

[ivory verge]

try cropp option

ah ok 🙂

I just looked at the video 🙂

[tropic stratus]

what exactly do you mean? the level of detail effect or the sawtooth?

[ivory verge]

yes, it's visible

sure , I can check it

[tropic stratus]

would be great if you have some static situation with savestate, then i can check how those lines are even drawn

it looks like polygons, because psx lines cannot have thickness

it's also in the youtube video, but seems more hidden. It this the same camera perspective?

[abstract drift]

almost looks like they're the wrong color in the distance

[serene nebula]

Let’s all remember the day that PlayStation was born. It came screaming in, victorious in battle from the moment of conception.

https://youtu.be/ClvEzZoYb1Y

[iron nova]

The best button scheme to date

[iron abyss]

Finally the PS1 + LSD combo you’ve been waiting for

[slow tusk]

That's trippy

[serene nebula]

$125 for both is a good deal in today’s market

[bronze pulsar]

I remember playing Megaman X5 on that

[serene nebula]

I’m sorry for your loss

[bronze pulsar]

It was fine. I always recommend playing X5 and X6 with the improvement patch overhauls these days

[serene nebula]

Im sorry for your Stockholm syndrome

[bronze pulsar]

They were definitely lower budget than X4

No anime opening or cutscenes

Im guessing Rockman 8 wasnt the big seller Capcom was hoping for since 9 didnt happen for a long time after

[serene nebula]

I’m kidding I never played

I only played X

[bronze pulsar]

Ahh

Well the best titles in that series are

X1/2/4

[serene nebula]

Oh I own X4, X5, and X6 lol

I have trolled myself

[bronze pulsar]

X3 has a PSX/Saturn/PC port with arranged music and anime cutscenes

[serene nebula]

That’s cool. Is it in Japanese?

[bronze pulsar]

Yes, though oddly Europe got an English release. I believe it is NTSC/60hz patchable though so nbd

Of course the PC version is not 50hz so it doesnt matter there

Personally I prefer the MSU-1 version with MET's arrangements

[strong hatch]

7 and 8 really stand out as the odd ones in the franchise. Although I like them more as time goes on.

[bronze pulsar]

Im pretty fond of them

I like the Saturn version of 8

It has extra boss battles with Cutman and Woodman (Rock/Paper/Scissors), and a better stage theme for Tengu Man

[strong hatch]

Saturn Tengu Man is definitely better than PS1

Also okay I feel stupid for not getting the joke there with cutman and woodman lol that's pretty good

[bronze pulsar]

hehe

[hot marsh]

I do wish x5 didnt have those slow forced scrolling stages

It has my fave flying armor

[bronze pulsar]

The extent that you can patch/improve X5 and X6 is really down to ridiculously fine details now. They have their own gui with multiple tabs to customize every aspect

[hot marsh]

Yeah havent tried v2 at least alia is muted and no need for 2 replays

[odd glen]

Is there a way to map a button to enable/disable cheats???

[tropic stratus]

no, you have to go to OSD (or compile yourself a special version)

[lapis tide]

I played Castlevania SOTN Yesterday and at the first boss when Dracula transform my character Richter was not responding anymore. I did a savestate and reboot and when i reload the character was not responding to any command. Does someone already experiment this?

[ivory verge]

Deafult settings?

It never happened to me, I finished sotn several times

[serene nebula]

Was your controller wired or wireless?

[lapis tide]

wired ps5.

[odd glen]

Very cool. Ive never done FPGA dev but may have to try that out

[bitter lintel]

@serene nebula hm. run it again.

[serene nebula]

Yes sir, doing another five speed runs right now!

[ivory verge]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-sassy-ugh-duh-eye-roll-gif-15963614

I am already finishing my tenth speedrun

[harsh shale]

which one if you can I get to just do a video chat with me while I play the game and be like "hey go over there"

I could stream it and you could yell at me

[serene nebula]

I can do that, but I won’t remember what to do, I’ll just be yelling random directions and sound cocksure about it

[bronze pulsar]

I could do that.. but Im far too busy

Banging Robby's Mom

[bronze pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRcYnXmnMAI

[tropic stratus]

it's actually very easy, you only need to modify 2 lines. There is a line that switches on cheats on with status[6] from OSD. If you don't need the pause button, you could use that and exchange the status[6] with button_paused and remove the button pause from the pause condition

or for a full solution add a new button to button mapping and copy the pause button toggle behavior

[hot marsh]

I got the maestromusic controller... Both the game and controller are awful as expected.

Boring gameplay, controller is inconsistent in detection

Surprised it has 4 games

[hot marsh]

Ascii fishing, i need to grease the thing. Game is not great

[serene nebula]

Play the Reel Fishing games by Natsume.

[bronze pulsar]

Feeling conflicted..

Natsume is amazing.

But fishing games...

[serene nebula]

I mean, it won’t win you over in the slightest. But if you have a fishing controller it’s entertaining for 5 minutes.

[oblique frost]

which natsume tho

there's like at least two

[oblique frost]

that have been different entities since 1995

[bronze pulsar]

Oh, did not know

[oblique frost]

it led to the whole harvest moon mess we're in now

but it it started in the 90s

[bronze pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q81ptFSA4mk

[oblique frost]

the Japanese and American companies split and retained the names for a while until finally not doing that, sorta. I'm not sure who made the fishing games

[serene nebula]

Japan Natsume, same ones who did Harvest Moon

Wait no

Published

Victor Interactive Software

[oblique frost]

Harvest Moon is a mess that doesn't help

[serene nebula]

Developed

[oblique frost]

Today's Harvest Moon is Story of Seasons

and Harvest Moon is Harvest Moon: now garbage edition

[serene nebula]

lol

[oblique frost]

I think the American one does Reel Fishing?

but they also do Harvest Moon which is no longer Harvest Moon because Harvest Moon was Story of Seasons but now therawoiroiewroijw8u3@o8u328uo3i2

[serene nebula]

It’s just safe to assume everything Natsume is bad

[oblique frost]

Story of Seasons is supposedly still good if you like old Harvest Moon

[serene nebula]

No sorry, can’t take chances

Is bad

[oblique frost]

because Story Seasons is old Harvest Moon

[bronze pulsar]

Sounds good Robby, send all your Natsume NES carts over

[oblique frost]

Harvest Moon was the dumb localized name to begin with

I think the moral of the story is don't trust Amercian video game development houses @serene nebula

_>

[serene nebula]

sorry, that’s countrycist

[oblique frost]

should I say the moral of the Story of Seasons

[serene nebula]

Better be corporatecist

[oblique frost]

I only trust Nihon Falcom 🗾

[serene nebula]

I also like Knee Horn Falcon

[bronze pulsar]

https://media.giphy.com/media/XWJ4onsTrreLMQI18n/giphy.gif

[tulip moat]

https://youtu.be/WZLg1ARnaxE

[bronze pulsar]

Right on queue

[pallid quartz]

Hey guys. Requesting some unusual cheats help .
I'm ultra-excited to try PSX 2x core I found on github.
Gran Turismo 2 can run at 60 FPS when CPU is overclocked, but you have to enable a certain cheat. And I discover just now that Mister's not compatible with Gameshark codes and uses its own format, .gg.

I have this code, it does work on Duckstations.
Does someone know how to convert that code to a .gg file?..

E01D5864 0002
301D5864 0001
A401F888 AEB40008

The original cheats package is SCUS-94488.zip.

[lapis tide]

I find the reason. I pressed the button to Switch to analog mode so that's why the character was not responding anymore

[bitter lintel]

@serene nebula i say RUN IT AGAIN

[serene nebula]

Sir yes sir

[pseudo plinth]

At gamehacking.org you can select and convert the code to the mister, see if there isn't already that code there that you can use, usually the RAW format works best

[pallid quartz]

Thanks, but I didn't find any working converter. One form I saw didn't spit out anything. Would be awesome if you guided me somewhere.

Yeah, I've checked, this code isn't there.

[pseudo plinth]

https://gamehacking.org/system/nes

Is a converter

https://mister-devel.github.io/MkDocs_MiSTer/cores/features/cheats/#making-your-own-codes

maybe help

[pallid quartz]

Yeah I've read that article

this is what happens afterwards

will appreciate any help

[manic valley]

https://youtu.be/GzCNXd3MKwI

[tropic stratus]

i once told how this could be done: #1052672192900501534 message

the only thing that makes it more difficult here is that it's 3 codes in a row, not a single one

also the last code looks strange, this is not a valid address in psx

but i'm not sure why it's even there. The cheats list linked only has the first 2 lines

but from what it looks, i see no reason why it doesn't only need line 2. I mean, it writes to the same address, what is even the use of that? the cpu will never see the first write

[lost coyote]

Great vid
lots of games to play on the Mister.

[lusty knot]

just a few

[manic valley]

Check out dudes channel, specially his “what happun?” Series

Ima be playing some Gamera tonight !

[ivory verge]

Gamera 2000 is great game!

The stage in the forest reminds me very much of Panzer Dragoon

[manic valley]

As soon as plant some tomatoes and onions im diving in to some space turtle action!

I wonder how it plays on the psx2x core !

[ivory verge]

https://youtu.be/VbB-Vse4qeQ?t=1110

[ivory verge]

@tropic stratus @upper forge I checked Stiker 96 and the line on the pitch draws the same on psx and on core

[tropic stratus]

Great, thank you!

[ivory verge]

https://youtu.be/PW84Ve_oRgo , real hw

https://youtu.be/1CIRPsucDus , core

I see no difference

or at least there are no drastic differences

[abstract drift]

yeah looks super similar, good test!

[strong hatch]

Definitely excited for that, I always liked TGM2 more.

[lost coyote]

https://youtu.be/cd9lfXwF9kw

Such a robust RPG library.
Not all consoles have that.

[lime grove]

Im hesitant on the TGM2 port right now because the main quirk of the game is it runs at 61.XX hz or some incredibly weird number

so I'd need to see how the port handles the refresh rate when porting it to mainstream consoles

[ornate walrus]

Likely to be 60fps locked.

[lime grove]

That would be not good unfortunately

Game becomes slower and thus easier to play than arcade

If it's 60 hz but runs at 61.XX fps internally

I could see it working

[shut escarp]

then you deal with tearing

[ornate walrus]

Up to the devs to have a VRR mode, but I doubt it. Most people hardly notice these kind of things. Unless the person is sensitive to it.
Makes me laugh at "the eye can't even perceive more than 60fps" by IGN Professionals, back then.

To have multiple options is always better, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

[manic citrus]

to have a vrr mode they'd have to make a ps5 specific version and I don't think they've ever done that

[ornate walrus]

Talking about ports, are the cave shooters any good on PS4/PS5? Heard the switch versions aren't great.

[manic citrus]

the M2 ones are good, I dunno about the DS/DS2 ps4 port as I never played it

and the livewire ones I dont' think got ported to anything but the switch?

[ornate walrus]

Missed these... will dig a bit to see how they perform, thanks.

[strong hatch]

TGM2 is probably gonna be locked at 60, Hamster doesn't do anything special with that sort of thing iirc

[shut escarp]

https://vxtwitter.com/kronkblats/status/1660724182684934167

[iron abyss]

Can’t be mad at the bass, that’s just bad parenting

[bronze pulsar]

Twin Fisher: Revenge Joe's Baby

[strong hatch]

technically that one isn't japan only, but that cutscene was removed from the US version. As well as some other light censorship. Pretty out there fishing game though

[bitter lintel]

nice

[cosmic tulip]

Yeah it's called monster bass in the us I believe

[lilac scaffold]

Dubya was wrong, the human being and fish can't coexist peacefully

[buoyant plinth]

Coexist peacefully in each other's bellies

[ivory verge]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-funny-scared-scared-fish-gif-12737839

[hot marsh]

anyone own the mini mono tambourines? Does it need 7.5v? the detection is pretty bad at the heights it's supposed to support

[bright yacht]

Oh I don't have one. I do have the Samba Maracas.

[hot marsh]

I will probably try to give it 7.5v

Although i hate the idea of an external adapter

I probably will just use a ps1 adapter and i guess chop off tge connected part and wire it to the ps1's controller port

[bright yacht]

It have any rumble motor? I can't imagine it using 7.5v if not having motors

[hot marsh]

It does albeit weak. The detection on the tambourine is pretty bad

Like it goes below shoulder level

While game supports up to 190cm height

Anyway, ordered the ps1 adapter, will solder the stuff and test using the vita adapter

Although its output is 5v only

[bright yacht]

So it might require more voltage then

[hot marsh]

Yeah my theory

Hopefully polarity isnt reversed on the ps1 adapter

[bright yacht]

Would be cool to see what the device reports but I don't know of any homebrew to query the device and show the report.

I did this on the Reflex/arduino. If you ever get one, let me know.

[hot marsh]

Sure.

[bright yacht]

Devices with rumble must report the amperage required

[hot marsh]

Hopefully i have scrapped all the sugru out

Maybe it will fix the stupid maestro music controller too

The detection on it is bad

I cant imagine the controller being bad since it has 4 games

[bright yacht]

Anyone else tested those devices besides you?

[hot marsh]

Probably not

[bright yacht]

I have one device that does not work at all on mister. But it's a third party cheap controller

[hot marsh]

Using generic chinese snac placed inside a psone

[bright yacht]

First party/licensed ones should work

[hot marsh]

Only iffy so far are maestromusic and tambourine

I just hope martial beat works

But all those are licensed

Have not tried unlicensed yet

[bright yacht]

No console to test? Real ps1 or fat ps2?

[hot marsh]

Ps2 has dead cd reader

[bright yacht]

Opl to the rescue!

[hot marsh]

No pops loader setup

I guess i can check maestro music

Since it has a ps2 game

[bright yacht]

It's a fat console?

[hot marsh]

Yup

[bright yacht]

Pops does not support special controllers

Must run in hardware compatibility mode

[hot marsh]

Yeah, reason why i got a mister

Because i thought guncons would work on ps1 there via opl

[bright yacht]

Even mister is not 100%... sadly 😦

[hot marsh]

Anyway, will do 7.5v mod first

[bright yacht]

I still need to pick up a real ps1

[hot marsh]

Too lazy to recap them and get xstation

Maybe if i do it on xbox, i will get the nerve fir it

[bright yacht]

XD

[hot marsh]

Since that's probably the first to go

At least the one i got was suspiciously pristine for a v1. Removed clock cap

Although i could replace whatever on ps2 to get burned cds to work

[bright yacht]

Nice

[hot marsh]

Could it be bad modchip or bad laser?

[bright yacht]

I have some xboxes. Removed the caps already

[hot marsh]

Dvds are hit or miss

Burnt cds are never read. Japanese ps1s dont load

[bright yacht]

Ps2 lasers are common to die. Probably due to burned media usage :/

[hot marsh]

Yeah purely burned dvds

As the norm here

[hot marsh]

I finished my stupid addition to ny psone mod. Added 7.5v adapter support.

Still waiting for my psone adapter. Tested it with vita tv adapter (5v 2a) and rumbled worked only when it is powered but still weak

Hope it fixes my tambourine problem

[bitter lintel]

unless you own xstation/ps1digital, you're a pleb

[visual depot]

I was about to until MiSTer

lol

had just purchased a SCART cable from Retro-Access with lightgun split-out too xD

[hot marsh]

This one is a hollowed out psone. It's literally a giant snac with better rumble and hopefully controller support

Bought a mister because pops loader didnt work with guncon 1

Too lazy to add 7.5v support on my other hollowed out ps1

[bitter lintel]

you're hollowed out

[hot marsh]

Yup dead on the inside

[bitter lintel]

[bronze pulsar]

SOTN run when

[bitter lintel]

today

[bronze pulsar]

More sword bros heart refresh glitch

More map %

Moar

[bronze pulsar]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ZgdUHdYhwNn0Lsp9UO6z2ylchFHJewk2tuYkCXU49YE/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/FxHOtO1akAATTrG.jpg?width=810&height=558

This is the Playstacean

[bitter lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-denzel-washington-get-out-shut-door-gif-16343973

[frail storm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-good-bye-bye-gif-5245718

[bronze pulsar]

Everybody gtfo

slams door

[iron nova]

This is so cool looking.

[mortal oracle]

I’m getting some weird behaviour on Parappa The Rapper where the game kind of loops around and doesn’t show a menu that I’m expecting to see…
When playing in easy mode, after the end of the third stage, there should be a menu that shows up saying it’s the end of easy mode (see: https://youtu.be/sCu-RKziP6U). When I play using the most recent version of the core, it plays the FMV at the end of the level, and then immediately starts playing the FMV at the beginning of the game - which, if you don’t know that easy mode ends at level 3 (like I didn’t), gives the impression that the game has restarted.
Pretty minor, but I wanted to flag it as it might be a bug.

[meager parrot]

parappa strikes again

[wooden hare]

Does this core support the feature of games like ridge racer where you can put a CD in the ps1 after the game has loaded into the ram so you can play any music you want?

[manic valley]

I do believe so but I haven’t tried it myself ..

[hard laurel]

Raise this as an issue on the GitHub. I am sure Robert will be happy to take a look if he can.

1 thing that would help is a Save State just before the issue usually happens.

[tropic stratus]

yes, just exchange the CD to a pure audio CD like with a real console. If the core does reset when you do it, your cue file is wrong and it's not a pure audio CD image

@mortal oracle the japanese Parappa also has some issues with FMVs i could never solve, but i thought US was ok? Maybe some regression or nobody tried the easy mode yet?

[ivory verge]

I finished easy mode some time ago , pal version

It was ok

I can check again

[mortal oracle]

US version for me, so that might be why

[tacit fox]

Have anyone tried Community Pom with the English translation patch on the core?

[lost coyote]

Oh, Parappa JP still has the bug?

[meager parrot]

even worse, still has the chicken 😅

[tropic stratus]

yes, it's on github. You must hear the music of the intro FMV (while watching a white screen), otherwise you cannot play. No idea if the game can be played otherwise later

i never found what the issue is. Rama had some hint, but that doesn't apply to CD emulation in the core. But it's very likely a CD bug anyway

[hot marsh]

It boots

[bronze pulsar]

Huh, I havent heard of this one. Looks good

[frail storm]

I read "Community Porn"

[hot marsh]

I mean... didnt we all?

[tulip moat]

I never played Community Pom despite liking the stuff developed by Fill-a-Cafe.

[tacit fox]

It’s a M! It’s a M!!!!

[serene nebula]

There’s a joke in there somewhere lol

[stable perch]

Oh, that's an "m", I thought it was " r n", and I was shocked

(Community Pom)

[tulip moat]

Meanwhile there's a PS1 game called Universal Nuts.

[frail storm]

Japanese-only, sadly

[serene nebula]

Woah cool, thanks for sharing!

[hot marsh]

use it with your dual analogs

[oblique frost]

Universal Nuts is a sci-fi visual novel featuring two protagonists, Yui and Ai, which get involved in an incident onboard a space station. As the story progresses, the mystery of events that have occurred start to unfold. The game plays in a typical visual novel style by reading through on-screen text and dialogues to progress the story. Character icons are present during dialogues beside the character art over the background image, and the game features both animated cut-scenes and voice-acting.

seems like it could be fun

[bronze pulsar]

[oblique frost]

I guess it came out for saturn as well

[serene nebula]

Saturn? Not even once.

[bronze pulsar]

2D is for plebs

3D with fog and vaseline

Thats where its at

[serene nebula]

2D is what I played as a kid, heh

3D is for adults

brain can’t handle 3dimensions? heh

[bronze pulsar]

Twisted Metal time

[hard laurel]

When I run the US Version in Beetle PSX HW RetroArch Core, it behaves the same as the MiSTer Core Does. Finish Stage 3, see FMV of the New Car and then it goes back to the intro FMV again. Is this not normal?

I can answer my own question but will need to get my Real Hardware back out of storage...

[hard laurel]

Real Hardware for me behaves the same as the Core does.

(with PSIO this is though)

[hard laurel]

Even with a Burned Disc on my SCPH-1000 Console, it behaves the same as the Core so not a bug.

[ivory verge]

nice! thanks for checking 🙂

I remember that everything is ok

[hard laurel]

I am still very happy to test reported "Bugs" to see if they are real or not.

However I think I may have found another bug.

In Die Hard Triloy Die Hard 2 (on rails shooter), Explosion effects make the screen turn Black!

For example if you pick up the Explosive Shotgun, everytime you fire a shot the screen turns Black!

Latest unstable version of the core tested. Will go back to the last Stable Release and try it there.

[tropic stratus]

you can turn off the black frame in the OSD

[hard laurel]

I didn't know that 🙂 that is cool

[tropic stratus]

it's a hack because the image will be messed up when the resolution changed when it goes through the scaler

[hard laurel]

Got you, didn't see that option "Black Transitions" got it now.

[tropic stratus]

some gun games used a resolution change to indicate that you shoot 😅

[hard laurel]

Oh good 🙂 hahaha that is a new one on me.

Change resolution when a shot is taken, I imagine some CRT's may have flickered when this happened.

[tropic stratus]

it's a trick, they store e.g. a full white image in the vram and when you shoot, switch to that image for 1 frame. Because it's fully white, the rsolution doesn't matter, so they store the white image in the lowest possible resolution, while the game runs at higher res

on a crt, this would be flawless (should be also with the core)

basically this issue: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/196

and thanks a lot for verifying with a real disc!

[hard laurel]

More than happy to keep testing and debunking bug reports 😉

[hot marsh]

Should 24 bit be on or not by default?

Read 24 bit solves timing issues but sometimes causes it

[frail storm]

Good question indeed

[serene nebula]

If you want to turn off dithering then I’d recommend it.

I forget, too bright or too dark?

bonus “cheat” lol

[gilded trellis]

Ofc this have no sense on lcd. Gun games on crt is based where gun sensor and pixel are matched on screen. For this, brighter images or white images instead helps to this detection

[little ledge]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/bcc53cca798c93ae45116c6dce13fac9/tumblr_oy3fwtUAVq1qlriuxo1_640.jpg

[tulip moat]

Imagine playing Ape Escape by rubbing on Lara's control stick nipples

[tropic stratus]

well, you could get up to about 3% more brightness that was otherwise cut off (bits lost). It is a difference in Silent Hill for sure

(personally i prefer the better contrast, but i don't play horror games)

[abstract drift]

you can correct it with gamma iirc

the problem is silent hill is it raises the black level, making sections that should be pitch black a grey instead, probably less noticeable in other genres

i think its gamma 120 to correct it

[cosmic tulip]

Turning off dithering in silent hill also makes the fog significantly worse

[tulip moat]

I'm an average dithering enjoyer so I actually prefer the imperfections.

[serene nebula]

Yeah same. I run the core with filters and the dithering looks nice.

[cosmic tulip]

One of the neat things about duckstation is that it has an option for "scaled dithering" to match your resolution

[cosmic tulip]

makes it look way better if youre running the game at highter resolutions

[meager parrot]

team dither here also. only game i've found i prefer shutting it off is Prism Land story

[bronze pulsar]

Probably going to get an active adapter to clean up the SVHS signal from my MiSTer, the straight cable method works but it's pretty bad looking on my capture device.

Im guessing the 24 bit dither for VGA helps with the FMVs looking worse over an Analog I/O?

I had dithering turned off by default for games like Harmful Park and Castlevania Chronicles, does the VGA option only affect the analog output?

Oh okay, Im RTFM-ing on this and it looks like it causes issues with HDMI if enabled

[lost coyote]

For a longest time, Dithering wasn't correct on EPSXE.

[hot marsh]

I still use epsxe lol mostly because low end portable device + PEC

[forest trench]

You’re too focused on digitizing video, MiSTer doesn’t support SVHS (but it can output S-Video) 😛

[bronze pulsar]

I think Im being trolled

Good

Have a commercial for your efforts

You PAL gents should know that SVHS/S-Video are interchangable terms since the format first appeared on SVHS decks

Y/C was used before this but not outside of computers

Why?

I have a Sony SVO-1500

has served me well for all this ripping

Yadif 2X

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3slJ9SEdWHaqibsd3Yt58NWu_2HzgEKr

[manic valley]

All you nerds ever rip are rancid Cheeto farts!

[bronze pulsar]

I prefer to call them VHS

or Laserdiscs

[eager fog]

Potential bug? Playing Klonoa when you save on memory card then overwrite a save, the overwritten save disappears when you reset the core. Has anyone experienced that?

[tropic stratus]

did you save the memory card in OSD?

[meager parrot]

https://twitter.com/HilltopWorks/status/1663799172317986817?t=4KENpdLIdhkoyE3ULjb75A&s=19

Hilltop 🌻 (@HilltopWorks)

My video is finally complete! It's over an hour and a half long and represents years of accrued knowledge in cracking and datamining these games. It will be public on YouTube in one week.

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Twitter · May 31, 2023, 6:46 AM

[hard laurel]

You have to activate the OSD, it will say "Saving" next to the Memory Card item. Wait until it saves it before you quit the game / load a different one or it will NOT write your Memory Card

[hot marsh]

@bright yacht, the tambourine really needs 7.5v. my modded snac with ps1 adapter makes the game playable now

I will try maestromagic if it fixes the wand

Tried it. Controller works much better

Still a boring game

[bright yacht]

Amazing!

[eager fog]

sorry - not sure how to do that. Interestig thing is that the original saves are on the mem card but the overwrites are not. So say I create a new save called SAVE A, then overwrite it with a new save (SAVE B). While the system is on I see SAVE B in the mem card, but when I turn it off and then on SAVE B has disappeared and I only see SAVE A

[tropic stratus]

in OSD, there is a option for save memcard

this can be either autosave or manual

when it's set to manual, you have to save using the "Save memory cards option", if it's autosave, you only have to open the OSD

the "Memcard Status" will tell you if the memcard is saved back to sdcard or not

usually you just set it to auto and open the OSD before turning mister off

if you have network connection you could take a look if the memcard on sdcard has changed after saving ingame

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but i currently still assume it's a user bug 🙂 maybe there is some issue with saves, but i would be surprised no one else reported that before in the last year or so since it was last changed. I also completed Klonoa in multiple session and didn't encounter it

[ivory verge]

Save works fine here too

[storm barn]

Is there a way to unmount a memory card slot, to make the slot empty?

[mystic violet]

only a monster needs this option

[eager fog]

I will check when I'm back home - my point was that the system saves to mem card, but doesn't overwrite saves.

[shut escarp]

It does. You need to open the OSD to trigger the mister to actually save the new data to the mem card

[eager fog]

I see. It's just weird that you don't have to open OSD for the first save but need to open OSD for the save overwrite?

[hot marsh]

Closest is via snac and actually not putting a memory card there. Although is there any real reason to do that other than speeding up memory card utilities like on Wild Arms

[abstract drift]

most likely you opened the OSD after your first save and just didn't think about it

this happens to basically every mister user

once

[storm barn]

Hi. I need this option. Not being able to return to a "no memory card inserted" state is not very good. It is like not having a unmount image button on Daemon tools. I once had to load the card that loads when the core boots without disc to transfer a game save, when a game was loaded. Now when I go to the memory card screen before loading a game, the same card loads on both slots.

[eager fog]

I checked and it was set to 'save upon opening OSD'. I changed it to Manual. I tried to overwrite the old save. Same issue. The save was not overwritten. Let me ask this differently - what should the set up be to use the mem cards as intended by the original HW?

[storm barn]

did you wait until the game finish saving to memory card before opening the menu?

[tropic stratus]

if you still encounter the issue, please: create a memcard with a save(you should have one) and create a savestate when the game asks for saving and upload both. Then we can try to replicate by loading the savestate and saving to memcard

[tropic stratus]

yes, disable automount and open the memcard select screen. Then either press "back" long or backspace on keyboard

i know, it's not very obvious, but it's the standard procedure to unmount any disk drive on mister

[serene nebula]

Get into the habit of once a game has finished saving to open the OSD to actually write it to the memory card.

[tropic stratus]

just a note why this tedious procedure of opening the OSD to really save the memcard is even required: when the memcard is saved to sdcard, the Host system (HPS/Linux) is busy with writing back the memcard and cannot supply CD data anymore. This can lead to game crashes for some games, so the game must pause. As i didn't want the game to pause out of a sudden, this is done when the OSD is opened, which should always pause, unless this OSD-Pause is deactivated, which the core tells you is not recommended.

to help with understanding it, i added a indicator if the memcard was already saved back in OSD that acts very much like the LED on mister that would also signal that a pending change has not been written to sdcard yet

[hot marsh]

Anyone else guilty of having the OSD pause off?

[lost coyote]

Can anyone tell what external storage file system format will eliminate stuttering?
I'm using and External HDD formatted as Exfat and I experience stuttering.

From backreading, someone had no stuttering when using an External SSD with NTFS.

[ivory verge]

For external drives you definitely need a good power supply too

[lost coyote]

I'm using a 2.5" one

[bronze pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N79yr7A2YKo

[tropic stratus]

biggest issue is the USB connection. I can only really recommend network drive or SDCard. Maybe someone has a good setup with external HDD, but so far i only heard of problems. But maybe the ones where it's working well just don't post

[storm barn]

Usually external HDDs are set to park its heads after a set time, it took several seconds for it to unpark the upon a read/write request. One that I used even had a tool that allowed to change this timer.

[serene nebula]

I love how many different storage solutions we have on MiSTer but since I curate my entire collection I can’t fathom needing more than 512GB. That’s using CHD in literally hundreds upon hundreds of disc games.

So an A2 rated SD card is perfect for me!

[vestal thicket]

Network FTW. I just wish the mister networking setup was a tad more dynamic. It works but I had to adjust a bunch of stuff on my NAS due to having complete verified sets setup for scanning/verifying. It didn't like my folder layout and structure so I just created more shares on the NAS and move over the games I want. Doubles my data footprint but it works super, super well. Way faster from network than SD card.

Highly recommend network loading to everyone.

[abstract drift]

i use a sandisk 512gb card too

[dawn wind]

I use a 4TB spinning disk in an sata -> usb adapter

[slow tusk]

It's an expensive loophole, but if you want you could get MisterAddons's SNAX with a PlayStation adapter, an original multitap, and an actual, physical memory card. You don't have to worry about opening the OSD to save there, but then you will have to worry about using controllers meant for an actual PS1. Otherwise, just get in the habit of opening the OSD to commit a save. This has to be done with other consoles, too, so not a bad habit contract.

[dawn wind]

I’ve noticed occasional hitches in ps1 core I assumed were loading related but never worried.

[lost coyote]

Is the "SPU RAM Select" Option supposed to be selectable if I have dual SDRAM on the latest stable release, or do I have to download a special DUAL SDRAM build?

[ivory verge]

You need dual sdram version

Official one is single

[lost coyote]

Thank you.

[lost coyote]

Will use an SD card then

Is an A1 rated Sandisk good enough?

[abstract drift]

if you turn on the cd-overlay you'll get a popup whenever the hitch is related to storage

the most noticable ones for me are if BT device that was connected falls asleep

[cosmic tulip]

No. A2. Always A2

[twin walrus]

has anyone put together a music disc and used it in the PSX Core bios?

[cosmic tulip]

I've seen a few folks do it on twitter

[twin walrus]

did they post the process? I figure it's straight forward if you use something like imgburn and create a cd audio file.

[cosmic tulip]

I think, if I recall correctly. You have to convert the CD to Bin/Cue

[twin walrus]

I see. Gonna look more into it when I get home.

[hard laurel]

Should be easy to rip an Audio CD using IMGBurn and select Bin/Cue as the format.

I imagine that will work.

[wraith quarry]

How do I use ulaunchelf on PS2 to transfer saves to MISTer?

[rare gyro]

One way is to transfer them onto a usb storage device

and from there it should be pretty self explanatory

[wraith quarry]

well it doesn't have an extension on the file

[rare gyro]

so are the saves on a ps1 memory card?

the latest version of ulaunchelf should be able to read ps1 memory cards

[wraith quarry]

ok, PSXGameEdit worked for me

[quick gyro]

Why would you need A2 on the Mister? Afaik A2 is just better if you need to access many files on the SD card at once, which is not done by the mister. I never had any performance problems with my A1 card.

[oblique frost]

the sdcard slot on the de10-nano is very slow as it is, I'd wager high speed rating on the cards don't matter too much

[forest trench]

If you are moving 512GB/1TB worth of games onto a card via PC (or backing up from card to PC), the faster speed is nice.

[cosmic tulip]

In my experience A1 corrupts way more easier than A2

[torn holly]

I was able to create an audio CD image and use it with Ridge Racer and in the BIOS.

[hot marsh]

What games stutter usually on USB so I can test if I need to move my stuff

[hot marsh]

With regards to this, you're still limited to havign it in the same folder right? Like for games that have change discs like Beat Mania and FF games

[lost coyote]

I get some stutters in Crash Team Racing

[lost coyote]

Okay, ordered an A2.

[torn holly]

According to this page: https://vampier.net/PSX/

"When switching to an audio disc image the PSX core will not reset itself. This is handy when there is a need to switch to your own audio CD like with Vib Ribbon or any other game/visualizer that can play audio CDs."

[tropic stratus]

yes, if the disc is detected as audio disc, which is basically a check if track 1 is a data track or a audio track, then it will not reset your game

easiest way to create yourself a audio disc and test it: take any game that uses CD DA (multi track) and replace track 1 in the cue with any of the other tracks. That's how i tested all these things 😅

Plus, you can create a yourself a audio disc with game music you like. Unfortunatly it doesn't work with CD XA or SPU based games, otherwise i could play ridge racer while hearing Balamb garden

[hot marsh]

Aww, I guess it can't be used with Battle Area Toshinden's CDDA tracks

Although I probably would never play the games that support audio cd

[serene nebula]

https://youtu.be/8cRmc3N2Kgk

Fun video. Does a good job covering a few esoteric 3D fighting games but there’s a whole lot more out there. Check out these additional recommendations if you enjoyed the video:

• Destrega
• Dynasty Warriors
• Ehrgeiz
• Genei Tougi: Shadow Struggle
• Goiken Muyou II
• Iron & Blood: Warriors of Ravenloft
• Kamen Rider V3
• Psychic Force 2
• Shaolin
• Vs.
• War Gods
• Wu Tang: Shaolin Style
• X-Men Mutant Academy 2

There’s more out there but I didn’t want to fill my list with the bottom of the barrel lol.

[hot marsh]

Konami was really lazy with Kensei sacred fist

like unoriginal characters, concepts, name

They also made so many clone characters

[shut escarp]

Mutant Academy 2 is really good

[timber veldt]

The combo system in that game is pretty nice

[serene nebula]

LOL so did I, damn

and I own it!

[pine heron]

Was the original Dynasty Warriors a fighter game? I know the series from the hack and slash games on PS2

[scenic reef]

yup

[pine heron]

TIL

Wu Tang Shaolin style has some awesome/hilarious fatalities

[scenic reef]

it vaguely reminds me of soul edge

[pine heron]

Only PS1 game I own a physical copy of

[quick gyro]

Afaik Wu Tang shaolin style is based on the canceled Thrill Kill game that was crazy brutal for its time. The leaked prototype runs well on the core.

[serene nebula]

Yeah, it’s a better game than Thrill Kill but it’s still pretty chaotic. It’s still a fun game though, and even supports the multi tap for four players.

[quick gyro]

So lets play Thrill Kill of thre thrill and Wu Tang Shaolin Style for the Gameplay and the Music 👌

[bitter lintel]

you're a prototype

https://tenor.com/view/hug-bro-gif-7651972

[hot marsh]

Scored a $12 jogcon

I guess that thai ebay seller fucking up my $50 order was good in the end

Yeah. Like that game i saw weeks ago

Bet my bastard controller works better

Literal mix of jogcon and negcon

[hot marsh]

Well better than the tambourine with only 1 game

[bright yacht]

Jogcon + arduino + mister = endless possibilities!

[hot marsh]

I mean paddle controller for atari?

[meager parrot]

yep

with proper stoppers on the edges from the jogcon's force feedback and everything 🙂

speaking of which..

haha thats exactly what im testing now 😁

not micro machines exactly, but that style of game

i dont think adding force feedback to games that did not have it originally is in the cards though

[bright yacht]

If a game have rumble, it might be possible to do some small movements on the jog, to have a kind of feedback...

If I remember correctly, VRAlly2 just auto centers the jog, no forcefeedback.

[hot marsh]

Time to kick punch it's all in the mind time

Once i find 4 cr2032s

[hot marsh]

Tried it out. I could see why it was not popular. Also right arm has a defective power switch. Tracking is awful as expected

It's not long enough for exercise and it's not fun enough either

[lost coyote]

No more hitches on my part using an SD card

[bright yacht]

You should get a sega activator too

[main mantle]

Has anyone get the game "ark of time" (PAL exclusive) to work? It won't boot after the language select no matter which language I choose. Settet core settings to default as well als region manually to PAL. No 60h hack or anything activated

[hot marsh]

Man that sounded like a fun idea but not great in real life

like some of the camera games on ps2

At least I think I've gotten all the controllers I wanted to get for the PS1

[strong hatch]

Did you dump the game yourself or is it a verified dump? Is it a CHD or anything?

[shut escarp]

I still need to get a PS1 fishing controller and RC style controller, I think that’s about it

PopN I guess

[hot marsh]

reminds me I should oil/grease up the fishing controller. It's so noisy

that rc controller looked weird. Reminds me of one of the transformation items on power rangers

It's more like a jogcon in negcon mode right?

[lost coyote]

No more stuttering now that I've switched to an SD card.

[hot marsh]

I really should test if my ssd stutters

I keep forgetting to rip ctr

[lost coyote]

Yah, the comment above says SSD's using external under NTFS don't stutter if formatted as NTFS.

Are USB flash Drives good though or do they stutter too?

https://youtu.be/z36xyoMmLiY

This person's YT content, which is PS1 focused, is so good.

So many ps1 gems.

The PS1 has such a great diverse library. Not every console has that.

[hot marsh]

I think DS has the most diverse

albeit full of shovelware though

[ivory verge]

check your game image, works fine here

default settings

[main mantle]

Yes, CHD, not dumped myself, no redump, but issue is cleared due to dump, thanks

[main mantle]

Thanks for verifying, will try another dump 🙂

[tropic stratus]

thanks again for the fast support Kuba 🙂

[young sinew]

This might be what finally pushes me over the line and convinces me to set up a NAS. Any recommendations on what NAS to buy/setup?

[slow tusk]

I like Synology brand because of its simplistic and easy setup and SHR file system.

[vestal thicket]

I built my own years ago and it all still works. It uses freenas/zfs and works great. That said, it's way more complex than something like a Synology. Synology is probably your best bet if you just want to buy something off the shelf and keep it simple.

[slow tusk]

Their SHR file system allows you to just plop any set of SHR-raided drives into any Synology hardware and it just understands what it's looking at and integrates the drives without much extra on the user end. It's too convenient for a casual dabbler in the storage arts like myself.

[vestal thicket]

Yeah, if you're technical at all you can do your own setup with much more power, flexibility, etc. for cheaper. Synology you're paying a bit for the convenience but they tend to 'just work' which is awesome.

[tacit fox]

Considering building a 100TB NAS now that Google is enforcing limits on shared drives 😔

Wondering how much power a 5 bay Synology full of 22TB disks will consume though 🤔

[abstract drift]

i really like unraid. its like a metaraid system so its insanely flexible

mix and match disk sizes, chose your own parity, cache pools, vms, dockers, it does everything

https://unraid.net/

[ornate walrus]

Interesting proposition, will take a look into it.

[shut escarp]

Presumably that’s how it works. I haven’t used any of the PlayStation ones but I have an adapter to use my actual RC transmitter on my PC for VRC

It’s basically the same as an ultra racer, the wheel is just rotated 90*

[rose ermine]

Second this. It's really good and flexible, but also very simple. No need to deal with the complexities of other systems if all you want is set and forget.

[ivory verge]

Residdent Evil 0 (Demake) for PSX looks fantastic

[serene nebula]

Ohhhhh, can you link?

[ivory verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ytBE7YWsI

link for download is in description part

works fine on Mister 🙂

[empty yacht]

n64 was robbed I tell you

[ivory verge]

this game could have been released in this form on the PSX and it would have been great 🙂

[serene nebula]

Thank you, @ivory verge!

[bronze pulsar]

Ooh, thats cool

[serene nebula]

Sorry I was here first, go find another mod to compliment.

[bronze pulsar]

;_;

FINE

[serene nebula]

I’m kidding, no come back @bronze pulsar

You can have it 🍻

[bronze pulsar]

No!

PSX IS -RUINED FOREVER--

But yeah seriously that looks rad

[tropic stratus]

as it's some kind of homebrew, can i friendly ask if they have optional proper controls or is it tank only?

[ivory verge]

Tank only 🙂

[tropic stratus]

too bad. the first minutes of the youtube video looked promissing

[serene nebula]

but tank controls are proper controls?

[tropic stratus]

i guess if you grew up with them it's ok. On n64 i never had them and the only game i really played on ps1 was FF8, so i never learned it and i will not start it now 😅

[serene nebula]

nah I was trolling, I get the reason behind and logic implementation for tank but I think there’s been enough clever solutions to allow for screen oriented controls without losing the presentation of camera cuts to different perspectives.

Although the intent with tank controls in Alone in the Dark and Resident Evil was to make it easier for players to control their character, it ironically was more difficult to learn for most people.

[scenic reef]

I didn't like tank controls even back then. You get used to it, but it's like getting used to a bad tennis racket.

[summer sage]

bad tennis racket, that's a relateable metaphor

[scenic reef]

For me it is haha. My mom was on the champion high school team

Tank controls are unwieldy :p

[summer sage]

IKR, how do people even drive

[scenic reef]

I don't have much experience driving tanks, and when I drive it's not from the third person in a top down view :p

Pressing up to go south because you pressed left until you slowly spun around, confuzzles me

[hot marsh]

I feel tank is intuitive for changing camera angles while being chased

Otherwise, it's clunky af

[still palm]

not sure if calling them tank controls is really accurate since you do all the movement with one stick.

and as mentioned if the controls were different it would really be unintuitive during those angle changes.

[abstract drift]

every time i play a game with fixed camera angles but not tank controls i'm reminded why they're so good

like devil may cry, you switch screens, now you're running right even though you're holding left on the analog stick

this is intuitive ?

[tropic stratus]

are these games different to the FF games in that regard? i never had a problem in FF with the controls there. Sure sometimes, you run the wrong direction after a screen changes and you go back to the previous one, but it's rare

for me tank controls feel super slow to move around. I would probably blame all deaths to the controls

[strong hatch]

You move decently fast with the run button in classic Resident Evil. But basically every room is essentially a movement puzzle, how do you want to proceed. Do you want to spend some ammo to remove an enemy or do you want to chance dodging them. The more you play them, the more you get comfortable running past things or taking the occasional intentional hit.
It gets very fun on repeat playthroughs trying to do things fast and remember every little task you need to do. You realize how short the games actually are though. Only a few hours at most

[abstract drift]

its less of a big deal with FF games since they're not action titles

also since FF has a fade down/fade up on screen transitions, wheras in DMC they're instant

[still palm]

I was trying to remember how they did it in FF since like RE you run around with 3d models on 2d BGs

with RE up is forward regardless of screen angle

[abstract drift]

tank controls are super reliable once you get used to them

(also yeah why are they called tank controls, thats not how you drive a tank at all :D)

katamari demacy has literal tank controls

[still palm]

whoever came up with the name never drove a tank is my guess

[ivory verge]

In the version of Resident Evil HD , where you can choose the control, I always chose "tank", that's how I learned from the first Residents to play and it's hard for me to change.

[abstract drift]

yeah the RE0 remake has that too

[strong hatch]

You can do some funky stuff if you use the modern controls, the enemy AI is really not designed for it

[abstract drift]

yeah its funny how they use them in speedruns

[strong hatch]

REmake did such a good job of making the zombies feel scary again. Even when you learn how to bait them, it's still kind of hard to do it consistently. Makes each room a lot more tense lol
Also crimson heads are a fun addition

[ornate walrus]

Tank controls in RE are like the difficulty setting in Souls games: it's part of the experience. The gameplay is dependent on it for a reason. Dodging zombies/monsters attacks is supposed to be a challenge.

[abstract drift]

they're also inherited from its obvious inspiration, alone in the dark

[serene nebula]

Yeah, I’ve never had a problem with them. It’s just how you play the game and you either git gud or don’t.

[abstract drift]

when you first start out, you should just shoot every zombie as safely as possible, you never really need to dodge just act like a turret

[ornate walrus]

The AitD remake is looking promising. Funny how now it's drinking heavily from the modern REs.

[abstract drift]

play on easy and make sure you carefully search everywhere for ammo and its no real challenge

[ornate walrus]

Unless you're playing Code Veronica and people manage to not have enough bullets by the end of it.

[abstract drift]

ok yeah CV is actually hard

but there's 3 resident evils to play before it you should be getting good by then 🙂

[ornate walrus]

Happened to more than one of my friends back then "I don't have enough bullets to face this boss"
And once I checked their saves, it was indeed true. LOL

[abstract drift]

the boss at the very end of disc 1 is where i got stuck back in the day

[ornate walrus]

I play every RE like CV. By the end of them I have enough bullets for a second playthrough. But RE2R they choose to punish people like me.

[abstract drift]

i actually found that and RE3R a nice challenge

[ornate walrus]

The game adjusts itself to your play style. I felt robbed, but loved it anyways.

[abstract drift]

yeah its really tightly tuned to like, basically force you to use all your ammo sometimes

its smart, since thats basically every veteren RE players biggest fear at this point 😄

[ornate walrus]

Indeed. The original RE2 is one of my "relaxing games" or games to play while having a conversation.

RE7 was the first RE since the original one to actually make me scream at the TV "Why can't you just die!?"

[abstract drift]

i can't wait for the RE4VR thing to come out at this point

VR really puts the tension back into the series for me

its like the exact opposite of tank controls, now you have perfect 1:1 control as if you were standing there yourself, can you reload the shotgun before that werewolf gets up though?

[ornate walrus]

VR is something else for sure. For me who loves onrails shooter it's a dream.

But I finally got a guncon 3 for mister. Have a blast with the old Master System games that I used to play back then.

[cosmic tulip]

My opinion on tank controls is a bit weird. Imo because that era of survival horror was a direct evolution of non point and click adventure games and those were mostly tank controls. They just added guns and monsters with stuff like alone in the dark and bioforge etc

[strong hatch]

Code Veronica is an endurance test. It's the last of the classic ones I played and while I didn't run into issues with ammo, that game is so long and confusing. That final boss is such a pain too. It's the one RE I'm fine with only having played once lol

[ivory verge]

of course, it's not ideal

as far as I know the project will no longer be developed

[tulip moat]

https://twitter.com/ElCaminoOscuro/status/1667658023936901123?t=wPd-zxi7tj3P7-A8NJStcg&s=19

Garrett Greenwalt (@ElCaminoOscuro)

Today's translation out of left field is Ecsaform for the PS1. An obscure SRPG that's got a great story, music and art. The game is on the easy side and does indeed appear to be rushed and/or unfinished, but what a game.

https://t.co/JpyQuwca5A

Likes

359

Retweets

141

Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 10:20 PM

[serene nebula]

Oh wow, thanks for sharing!

[abstract drift]

is it just me or is there an uptick in the rate of PSX translations coming out

i can't believe its 2023 and these are still happening. its very cool

[tropic stratus]

maybe tools are better today?

[tulip moat]

SEGA Saturn also got more interest as of late.

Which is actually a big deal since a lot of the games were limited to a Japan only release.

[tender tartan]

It’s probably a combination of tooling, exhaustion of interesting 16-bit games left to translate, and a generational shift

[lost coyote]

The PS1 has like more than 3k games. Lots of it are Japan exclusive.
Saturn has 1k plus and same, lotsa Japan releases.

[lost coyote]

There's been a new generation of ps1/Saturn lovers who are doing these fanworks, right?

[serene nebula]

There definitely is. It’s likely a combination of emulation finally being fantastic, tools being widely available, and usually translations begat more translations. Hilltop works is definitely a big contributor there.

[broken pelican]

I would also consider the impact of AI translations, which got impressingly good with the recent advances in large language models

[harsh shale]

Yeah that would help a lot

[tender tartan]

Not a huge deal, really. The hacking part is the limiting factor for the amount of fan translations that get done.

[bronze pulsar]

The script still needs to be dumped from whatever game by someone capable

[tender tartan]

Yep that’s the first step. And then the most work is usually in getting the translated script into the game in a professional looking and bug free way. But that part is usually easier with 32-bit translations compared to earlier consoles actually.

[serene nebula]

Welcome House is an interesting fully AI localized script. Somehow the incoherent script makes it more enjoyable lol

https://github.com/nikita600/WelcomeHouseEnglishPatch

Work checking out if you’re interested in playing Resident Toon.

[jovial fjord]

Probably a daft question but where would I download the psx 2x core from>

[ivory verge]

https://github.com/RobertPeip/PSX_MiSTer/tree/main/releases

the latest is 20230304

[jovial fjord]

@ivory verge Thanks very much!

[strong hatch]

Tools have gotten a lot better, sharing of knowledge and helping is also up a lot. Ghidra with accompanying plugins is really really helpful.

But I would argue it's still just up to is the programmer motivated enough to get to the end and is there a translator that wants to work on the script. A lot of projects stall because of one or both of those.

[foggy quiver]

Should I be worried that the intro audio of Colony Wars 1 seems to be clipping, and HDMI audio output shows 0dB (max volume) a lot during the intro?

[serene nebula]

I’d compare to real hardware first on the same setup.

[foggy quiver]

Also in Colony Wars Red Sun USA version, the intro is very far down the screen. The PAL version intro is centered correctly.

[foggy quiver]

PAL:

NTSC:

I am pretty sure the game was designed with PAL in mind (designed in Leeds UK).

[tropic stratus]

wasn't this the FMV with very strange resolution, like only 128 pixels height? i think the aspect ratio calculation didn't cover resolutions so low. You can see if you open the OSD and go left

[scenic reef]

It's always been called tank controls because when you stand in place it's like a tank spinning in place and the only way to turn while moving is at the same continuous limited turn rate, just like a tank.

[still palm]

ok but who named them that? maybe we need to correct them. it was probably just something someone came up with to describe the controls and it stuck.

there's probably been a variety of controls for tanks. like two levelers to independently control tracks, steering wheels, etc

if one stick controlled one leg, and the other stick controlled the other leg in RE i'd say yes those are tank controls and hilarity would ensue

[ivory verge]

Origin of Tank Controls

Named so because it necessitates horizontal movement in a way similar to how an older tank would move.

[storm barn]

It wasn't because how an actual tank would be controlled.

[still palm]

what would you call controls that act like how an actual tank would be controlled?

[storm barn]

There is a tank game on Atari 2600 that was controlled like that, up down moved tank forward and backward, left and right turns the tank.

[serene nebula]

Survival horror controls

[storm barn]

Classic survival horror.

I remember how I used to hate them, but eventually got used to them.

[serene nebula]

it never bothered me, but I never have issues with controls in games so I shouldn’t comment lol

[storm barn]

I had some, when you play a game for a while, then go to play another with different controls.

[still palm]

i think it works for those games, also limiting controls can be effective in horror games.

[storm barn]

You could run on a straight line even with the camera angles changing.

[still palm]

yeah I have a feeling the controls came about because of those angle changes some being a 180 of the last one

[storm barn]

Newer 3D games created elegant solutions for this "problem". Like keeping the direction even if wrong until the player moved the analog stick.

[ornate walrus]

I wouldn't call it elegant at all if you are running from something and the perspective changes.

[serene nebula]

I wouldn’t call that elegant. The moment you stop pushing I. The dieuxndjdjxndj @ornate walrus beat me

[ornate walrus]

I think there is something to enjoy even on the most weird controls like Skeleton Crew or Sub-Terranea on the Genesis. For ST changing the thurst to a button is a must though.

I remember being friends with the rental store owner and in the late 90's when he was selling the 16bit games I asked "What about Sub-Terranea? Have you sold it yet?"
"Nah, that's goes to my collection. Only you and I actually had some enjoyment out of that one."
It requires a neurosurgeon precision to play it properly. Very easy to die on that one, so once I played the first RE I was right at home.

[serene nebula]

damn, you lucked out. Being friends with the kid I’d a rental store sounds like a dream come true lol

You make a good point. I grew up with PC and played isometric games on NES. You become used to weird controls so your tolerance is high.

[ornate walrus]

It was also a really big arcade too. Probably around 40 or so machines. I almost lived there during my teens early 20's. It had a D&D Shadow over Mystara 4 player machine, TMNT, Simpsons, all KOF, pretty much every big classic from the 90's he had it. geez I miss that place. We drifted apart after I moved states, wonder what he might be up to now.

[storm barn]

I was friends with the games rental store near my home back then, one night we played Twisted Metal 2 coop till late night on a 29" TV, after he closed the store. It was very nice. We got to the last stage but lost to the last boss.

[ornate walrus]

TM2/3 was something we used to play to a lot. Was Vigilante 8 better? Never got to play that.

[foggy quiver]

I get 352x240 using fixed hblank and fixed vblank.

The fmv is shifted down and touches the bottom of the screen.

But, Colony Wars 2 is a bad PAL to NTSC conversion anyways. PAL is way better.

[storm barn]

Vigilante 8 was better than TM3, but worse than TM2 IMO.

[foggy quiver]

It is worth finding the best version of each game. Since Psygnosis were based in UK, many of their games are optimized for PAL, and then converted to NTSC. The Colony Wars 2 intro looks way worse in the US version, it has ghosting artefacts because they did some bad 50 -> 60 Hz conversion on all the videos. Also, circles got stretched vertically to ellipses when they converted the game to NTSC.

I wonder how many other games are better on PAL. I am sure Wipeout 1-3 are better on PAL. The billboards look better (no Red Bull ads) and the physics are better on PAL. There's even a special edition of Wipeout 3 only released on PAL. That shows the dev's PAL priority.

[ivory verge]

then I have no problem with "worse" versions of games , I only play PAL versions

[quick gyro]

Colin McRae Rally 2 is better in PAL, like way better but it was mentioned here a lot already 😄

US Version runs like 16% slower

[ivory verge]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-master-race-gaming-the-feels-gtx1080-gif-7941212

PAL master race

[ivory verge]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-sassy-ugh-duh-eye-roll-gif-15963614

these are just the names of the games, it's the inside that counts 😉

haha nice 😄

[serene nebula]

Wait what

[ivory verge]

yeah! deal with it , PAL wins

https://tenor.com/view/fatality-mortal-kombat-finish-him-smile-gif-17727975

[quick gyro]

https://tcrf.net/Colin_McRae_Rally_2.0_(PlayStation)
Here is a comparison video and screenshots, the PAL Version even has the real co-pilot, tellin you how the next turn will be, that Colin Mcrae had

i really love the Game but after beating novice mode the advanced Mode got so hard on the Winter Levels that i never could win them

[serene nebula]

omg I had no idea!

@quick gyro is the framerate the same in both versions?

[quick gyro]

i think its 50hz in PAL

But the Speed difference in the PAL Version makes the PAL Version the best Version for me, it feels like the Game was ment to be played in that speed. No idea what they did wrong when porting the Game to NTSC

[ivory verge]

well finally for 5 min I feel good, everyone trampled me when I wrote that I play PAL versions of games, I experienced a trauma until now I can't get up 😛

[quick gyro]

i grew up with PAL and i cannot see or feel the difference between 50hz and 60hz, i get the difference between 60hz and 30hz but 50hz is good enough for me 😄

[ivory verge]

I just play the way I did in the 90s. It's a matter of nostalgia for me 🙂

[serene nebula]

I’m a professional race car driver and I’ve studied pixel movement differentials in both videos and have concluded that the NTSC version is more accurate to the actual speed of the vehicles.

[ivory verge]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-just-stop-please-stop-stop-it-meme-gif-26307878