Nerf to Going Underground

[round bone]

I’ve had enough of seeing that archetype. These are the cards I think need a nerf:
-Fennec Fox (lower energy cost by 1 instead of 2)
-Golden Hamster (In hand, not wherever they are)
-Dwarf Hotot (Lower the point buff)
-Lemmings (Make it 3 turns, not 5!)
Any others?

[inner carbon]

one card should be nerfed at most

I'll never understand these nerfs where it's like "Let's completely obliterate an entire archetype and ruin it completely"

[thin urchin]

Why don't we nerf flyers

[round bone]

Not many people I encounter play it anymore. I’m one of the only ones who still does. On the other hand, I’ve come across 5 GU decks IN A ROW! Four losses, one win.

[round bone]

I’m only making a list of suggestions. I only expect one to be taken into action, if any at all…

[thin urchin]

Yeah that's just a joke
Personally I just want to nerf mono paleo and goji
I met 4 mono paleo in a row lol

And nerf lemmings because I hate it

[round bone]

I just added Lemmings to the list. Make it less turns, like maybe 3

[steady totem]

Then it'd just be useless

Lemmings is a worse Tower anyways

[round bone]

5 is too much still. Maybe 4?

[weary trail]

Y'all just want to nerf stuff cuz you lose to them😭
GU isn't even close to the hardest deck to beat this week

"nerf nebulae","nerf GU", nerf nerf nerf
Why not complain for the decks you're using to be buffed instead??

[thin urchin]

When will they buff mine

The problem is they always make broken card like cogito
Why don't they make something playable and not broken

[weary trail]

Obviously they can't buff everything lol

Some decks still need to be beginner decks

Some decks still need to have lower rarity cards that are easy to get for beginners to play

[thin urchin]

I'll add that stupid monkey to this list

[weary trail]

Ok buddy
They nerf everything that's good and that gets played till the only thing left is the deck you play(which is probably weak)

Then everyone starts playing your deck and then your deck needs a nerf too
That's what you want isn't it😃

Nerf all the monkeys

Nerf GU and everything

Nerf nebulae cuz why not

[thin urchin]

Np I want to try a mountain meta
Idc if they got nerfed after that

[weary trail]

Definitely not selfish at all
The game most definitely revolves around your desires

I apologize for the initial confusion

Good day

Show me one message I sent that indicates anger

Doesn't make sense to nerf decks to the ground
Idk why you can't see that

?

There's no anger anywhere lmao

Why do you keep saying I'm angry
Someone disagrees with your opinion and it's "anger" and they should delete the game

That's your problem isn't it?
Also that's a different matter
Shinigami is a card that directly affects the opponent

If it was broken like that then it needed a nerf lol
I'm talking about power decks that deal with scaling and cycling and all that getting nerfed for no reason
I disagree with this
It shouldn't happen

Simple
I mean simple if you can read

Who said I don't like the game what???

And I complained in like 2 posts so what are you talking about

[thin urchin]

There's only 2 post about nerfing

[weary trail]

I forgot 2 was such a grand number mb

[thin urchin]

Talking about the nerf
I just hate seeing them over and over in league
I've play against 7 vitcon
in a row before cogito nerf 5 marsupials before wts is a good deck and a lot of mono paleo deck
I want a nerf mostly just because I hate them or ofc they are truly broken

[weary trail]

Aren't you seeing it???

[thin urchin]

Sorry about telling you're angry tho

[weary trail]

Aren't you figuring it out by yourself now

[weary trail]

Anytime a deck gets nerfed

Another one replaces it as meta

Nerfing decks won't force people to be creative

That's just the sad truth

[thin urchin]

If they do a balance update every 2 weeks like marvel snap I think the meta will change a lot

But they do once a month

[weary trail]

Mono Paleo,flyers,write stuff,GU

They're not even the best decks you can play

But people play them because they aren't creative

Or maybe they were

And they lost a few games to mono paleo

[thin urchin]

I made more than 100 different deck in my youtube and a half of them lose against meta
That's another reason when I want to see a nerf😅

[weary trail]

And then they decided to go build it
And after trading for the cards

They'd rather just repeatedly play this "strong" deck that they have than think of any other creative ideas

[thin urchin]

But we can't nerf meta spammers

[weary trail]

I'm playing a weird ppt deck with borthrio and Sol

I'm also playing mono arts which I've only seen once this week and it was a weaker version of mine lol

I'm also playing Arthurian and some Paleo deck I made thats different from Normal meta paleo

And all these decks can't be considered "meta"
Because they don't get spammed right???

[thin urchin]

Yeah you're right

[weary trail]

Well they all beat all the meta decks

Write stuff,GU, Paleo
They all beat them
And I'm second RN in league

I rarely ever lose to these "meta"

[thin urchin]

Mostly just because of cycling

[weary trail]

So they're definitely not unbeatable lol

Nerfing them won't do much

If you nerf them
People will just copy some new deck

Maybe mono arts

[weary trail]

I face a lot of players that can cycle well with meta decks
And they still lose

[thin urchin]

Well
I think your deck is good
Meta spammers just don't know how good it is

[weary trail]

I lose a few games here and there but

I'm not playing meta
And I'm not complaining about meta

I can see clearly that these decks aren't the problem
I get your point

You want them nerfed so you can stop seeing the repetition
But nerfing them won't stop that

[thin urchin]

Oh I played mono art a lot
It is good but not really sure after cogito nerf

[weary trail]

The "meta" decks aren't the problem

It's the players

[weary trail]

I don't have cogito In my deck

All the mono arts decks I face all make the same mistake

They just pack their best arts cards in and add Jan van eyck
Fit cogito and fatalism and go to play

[thin urchin]

I played this before the nerf or in event I can't remember but it works pretty well

[weary trail]

And then they lose because that has no strategy
And so very few support cards

[weary trail]

You don't even need koschei

Arch isn't the best option either

But yours is even better

At least it has Renaissance

[thin urchin]

I know
I just want high power

[weary trail]

Lol

[thin urchin]

I hold heh and hel

[weary trail]

Have you ever thought of holding Agatha Christie instead

And cycling hel instead of holding it

So your cycle is more balanced

Ditching koschei and adding something like Hans is also good

Also you need mummy
You always need mummy

Literally no one I see
Uses mummy

[thin urchin]

Nice idea ig
I have an older version when they realease crown

[thin urchin]

But no heh because I forgot

[weary trail]

Why play mono arts if you won't add arts buffers???

[weary trail]

Looks closer to what mine is
But I have renaissance and mummy in

Also no arch

It's a mythic
And it's ability isn't that good to be added in

Doesn't get Jan van buff or sigil buff

[thin urchin]

Bels instead I guess

But I don't really like mono art now
Trying to make a good jinn deck

[weary trail]

Apart from the cards abilities themselves

The average card in your deck will probably have a +56 buff
And the non legendary cards will have just +10

That's not good enough
You don't need to pack in the strongest cards
Especially since the deck is made to win later rounds

Slow the deck down
Manage your cycle
And everything will be a powerhouse by r3

[weary trail]

Jinn needs a buff

[thin urchin]

Yes but this work fine

[weary trail]

Looks good
Never played a jinn deck though

[thin urchin]

Not a fan of jinn🤣
I just play anything can be good to post videos

[weary trail]

I see

[thin urchin]

Have a good day 🍻

[weary trail]

You too🍻

[round bone]

I know they won’t buff Flyers so I don’t tend to bother asking. That said, Amblydectyles might need a buff

[weary trail]

You're using flyers

And complaining about gu?

[round bone]

Oh, I’ve had a fair share of wins and losses against GU. I just hate seeing the same deck tons of times in a row, yknow. Also you can’t deny that lemmings needs a nerf.

[weary trail]

How does lemmings need a nerf
I don't even use it most of the time

It's just 100 to one random card for 5 turns

There's several cards that do an output of more than 100 easily

And it's until played or more

[round bone]

I’m thinking that it should be less turns. 3 would be too little though so maybe 4 would work

[weary trail]

5 is fine

It takes 6 turns for a card to cycle back

Lemmings definitely doesn't need a nerf lol

[round bone]

You do know that it’s actually only 5 turns to cycle back if the card is played in one of the left two slots, right? (That is assuming that the player plays three cards on every turn)

I also think Fennec Fox needs a nerf so it only lowers energy costs by 1 instead of 2, but make it cost only 6 energy instead of 8.

[weary trail]

Bruh

Leave gu alone

The -2 until played is the only energy reducer they have😭

There has to be small decks

And big decks

Does ise grand shrine also need a nerf???

As well as every epic card out there that does energy for their collection

[round bone]

Maybe they should make it like Zenjiangopterus so it lowers energy cost by 1 as default but an additional 1 if the player is LOSING the round.

[weary trail]

Well it's your opinion ig

[round bone]

You do know that Royal Chinchilla and Angora Rabbit are also energy reduction, right? Sure, it’s more limited than Fennec but I’m saying Fennec isn’t the ONLY option.

[weary trail]

Royal chinchilla is for mono and works for all LoL
And angora rabbit is only for in hand
I don't even use it

[weary trail]

How does this matter even????
Whats your point

You want to make GU less energy efficient for what reason

Like I said

There should be small decks

And big decks

There should be decks that can work every week

Why are you trying to nerf a card that doesn't need a nerf lol

You hate GU so you're just looking at some good cards in their collection and saying
Yh this needs a nerf so gu can be less playable and I can win more easily lmao

I'm done arguing though

It is your opinion after all

[round bone]

I disagree with that point. After all, seeing different types of decks used instead of JUST mono paleo, JUST GU, JUST flyers, JUST boxing, etc is a lot more fun.

[weary trail]

You can't force people to be creative

[round bone]

I know, I’m just saying it’s be nice

Itd*

[weary trail]

Hope I've been able to help you understand 🙏

[round bone]

Maybe I’ll put Orion in a flyers deck, so I can counter GU, Marsupials and Primates.

I have a few fillers like Pteranodon and Cryodrakon

[weary trail]

I've been using many creative decks this week
And even though the bot currently doesn't work I'm sure I'm on death incarnate

I have no problems winning...this just means people don't bother to make more decks

They simply aren't creative

And you can't force them to be

Nerfing can't do that either

Some people can make different decks and enjoy the game and test out multiple things

Although Because a lot of cards are weak
Your options are limited if you want to play competitively...you still have options aside from the meta decks

The vast majority just find it easier to copy what they lost to in league and play it over and over instead of being creative

And that's really just it
You can't help that by nerfing their deck

They'll lose to something else next game
And copy that

[round bone]

Yep. I’ve been using flyers for weeks though, I’ve even created one with Icarosaurus and the Sun for those weeks where we start with 14 energy and get 16 per turn.

[weary trail]

The only thing that can be done is to at least bring more cards to life
So we can use fun decks and at the same time be competitive in league

[weary trail]

That's nice ig

[round bone]

At least people using GU don’t tend to keep a card in their hand for the whole game… usually means that if I can last until round 5, I can usually pull off a win.

[weary trail]

My GU deck is pretty strong r5 still

People just can't cycle

If you can cycle well you should have a lot of strong cards in r5

Especially degu

Although flyers should beat GU r5 despite all this