More/Actual Weekly League and Arena Boost

[marble schooner]

Idk if it's just me, but I'm bored of playing when ppl are spamming the same decks in leagues every week. WtS there, Mono Paleo here and whatever. And what doesn't make sense is that, they gave incentives to some collections by giving arena boost(example: Dogs +80 this week) yet no one plays them because they know it won't make them win.

I think it's time for a weekly collection boost that gives them a fighting chance to another spam decks. This will encourage players to not spam the same decks every weeks, and get creative to build their own that suits their playstyle.

What I had in mind is that, cards played in the same arena should get incentives (maybe a perma boost). Like for example: if I played Shiba Inu in a Dog Arena, it gets +80 perm till the end of the game. (Maybe tone down the buff a little bit since it's a perm boost but I think this idea will give other decks a fighting chance too)

[devout gate]

Agree that the arena boosts should be given to collections that don't see play often and aren't meta decks

maybe instead of a perm boost, what if the game only had 3 collection boosts and 2 of them show up twice?
eg. Dogs, Battle!, Constellations each with a +80 boost and the rounds in game would look like: LoL, Space, History, LoL, History (each time being a different combination)

[primal totem]

I feel like whenever an arena bonus causes people to play a deck more, people complain

[half coral]

The issue I would have with Arena boosts becoming stronger is that it then makes it more difficult for newer players to win because they don't have a huge amount of cards to make decks with. It benefits those who have large card collections but makes it harder for those who dont

[marble schooner]

I remember that when they boosted mammals
But that was a bad move since they knew mammals is still in the grip of the meta yet they gave them +80 boost.

Also, it's better to have different type of decks every week than the same spam decks in a month right? That's what's CUE should be about, deckbuilding, not deck copying and spamming

[marble schooner]

I mean, newer players can still play newbie friendly decks and face other newbie friendly decks. I think that has always been the case since it's unfair for a newbie to play with someone with experience of deckbuilding.

Meanwhile, it may be unfair to those with higher leagues/elo with incomplete collection, but trading is an option to look for cards with arena boosts.

It would be much easier and better imo than to just nerf all the meta cards bcs there are too many to mention lol (also makes meta different every week)

[iron needle]

Maybe number of plays.

For example if played in this arena it gets the boost and on return it get thr same boost.

So it can carry a goodbye gift for participating

[half coral]

It's a wider issue I think which encompasses the elo. I keep saying I find it difficult to make a deck each week because I'm already at Slayer after 4 weeks.

I'm playing people who have a huge advantage with regards to card selection and if they can choose huge arena boosts it's going to make it even tougher

[iron needle]

Other ways it could work is playing 3 of a kind it trigger buff to the whole hand as until played.

Like play
1 turn buff
Play 2 round buff
Play 3 until played

This way the power can stack and be competitive

An example of how help this can be is identity theft before nerf.

[half coral]

Maybe just have different rules each week. Your deck must contain at least 2 cards from every album. Only 3 of your cards can have a base power of 50 or more... Things like that

[marble schooner]

Idk bout the at least 2 cards every album one (it'll lead to rainbow decks only league)

But maybe lesser power to those decks/cards that aren't in the arena?

Like for example,using wts and paleo this week would be weaker maybe with -40 penalty when played and those who use dogs will still enjoy the +80 arena buff

[fringe night]

I've said this before what's the point of having league arenas if it doesn't make them meta

[half coral]

I don't know. I think if the buff is so big it makes people use those cards, then that's all people will use. I think if there's deck composition rules it still allows for more diverse decks and some creativity 🤷🏼‍♀️

[half coral]

But then we'll all be playing against dogs all week, or whatever the weekly buffs are. It's tiresome playing against the same decks all week

Even the event they put on everyone ended up running the same ppt deck

And I don't really understand it because you can still make other decks work within that ruleset

[fringe night]

You have five decks to face rather than Same 1/2

[marble schooner]

Lmao, I thanked everyone who ran round ppt on that event since I demolished them with rulers...

But point being, there are 6 league arena buff each week so you get to choose which one you are using

[fringe night]

Or try them all

[half coral]

Yeah but all that's doing is creating a short term meta each week. I'd rather they come up with a way to make people experiment more

[half coral]

I don't even know what I played that week it was my first week. I managed to get to max rewards before the meta set in

[marble schooner]

I mean, shouldn't that be the goal? Why do you think they're giving arena bonuses for these collections? They want us to try them. Ofc, they failed their purpose bcs everyone wants to win instead of building fun decks.

[half coral]

I think you're right. They would rather people used a collection like Dogs, Cephalopods, Trees etc. than create viable mish-mash deck. Which is a huge shame considering the variety of cards

[fringe night]

I think as collections have evolved it's better, there's probably 4plus ways of playing each collection from rainbow mono gd boxing 9/9 tiny etc mixtures of all

[marble schooner]

This is exactly what I'm thinking

They can still get creative and squeeze in 2 or more arena bonuses in 1 deck.

[fringe night]

It may be a ets arena but does that stop you doing a PX 9/9 with say a futurology arena

Or a sol with three arena boosts

Or a 50/50 flood deck

A chaos gd deck

[marble schooner]

New science/space
And maybe evolved other variations like

Paleo/science
History/LoL

And other ones

[fringe night]

So many ways to structure collections but at least arena buffs should make something viable

Its kind of why we like events destabilises market and shifts meta's

[devout gate]

so many ways to structure collections yet they continue to give us generic cards. I'd love to see more synergies for Autotune or for Wormhole, etc. agree thats why events are great

[fringe night]

Yeah they could release a little more help or options, I mean you need science for auto and tend to use the three cards so PSR means go space three, cosmic engine, means history and oceans, then it's do I go ac pr lol and paleo for gd buff the oceans too

Could use a couple more cosmic engine type cards

Example

If your deck contains exactly three science cards give 8 of your cards plus 20 or something

[pastel gyro]

game-metas last until new cards to break the meta come, stuck with same meta decks until then, arena boosted metas would last for a single week and encourage people to change up decks. I guess it comes down to, how oftern should people be looking to make a new deck?

Personally I'm a big fan of trying to make a good deck for the highest boosted arena, or top few if I don't have enough cards for 1.

(If I can make a good synergy between the 3 boosted ones I generally do that)

Even if I know ima loose to a meta deck in the top levels

[devout gate]

Personally I try and make a new deck for every week or even every few days. Typically trying to use some of the new cards they come out with to see how good they are and see what I can come up with for it. I think making the boosts better is another way to try and get people to be creative

[pastel gyro]

Yea, as long as the boosts don't do a whole lot long-term, there is no real incentive for people to be creative other than when new cards come out and a new meta forms.

[half coral]

The boosts would need to be more than one round. It's no use being competitive in one round but get smushed in the others

[half coral]

They could introduce a rule where you can only use cards a certain number of times per league week 🤷🏼‍♀️

[marble schooner]

Idk bout this, but this would just make them play the metas till they become dragon. Supposing the metas doesn't have the same cards (example Yanornis in both Paleo and Flyers would be void according to your statement). But they could avoid this by using diff metas. (Let's say limit is 7, They can play Paleo 7 times, Wts 7 times, Writers 7 times, GU 7 times, Trees 7 times and still get to dragon without using the league arena buff and evading the card limit)

[half coral]

Sure but the aim isn't to prevent people getting to dragon it's to make a more varied playing experience for people. Not everybody has all the meta decks either. Some people may only have one or two. They're then going to need to run something else which would hopefully mean more diversity in decks seen and encourage some creativity.

I'm not sure how many newer players this game has but it would help encourage those players to be more creative rather than following the cookie-cutter trend. As for the people who have all the metas and still choose to run them, they'll most likely do that regardless of what changes are made unless there's stricter rules to prevent that from happening

[fair juniper]

I had a similar thought but more along the lines of if the card matches the arena, give it +60 or whatever, but in all other arenas give it +30. It would mean those 'lesser' decks are competitive.

Obviously this would mean don't give arena boosts to stuff like watching the skies but they shouldn't be doing that anyway.