#Butch Cassidy's treasure
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Annie Oakley is a basic and makes cost -2 energy to all old west
The Alamo is a limited, and just makes cost -1 energy to all old west
both are epic, and the basic's effect is better than the limited one
did they fix the card btw ?
not sure
looks like they didn't https://discord.com/channels/646709318904840197/1236879147813306429
oh no they did
im talking about the condition that needs to be next to Butch Cassidy
not sure if it's my skill issue, but that's the thing im talking about
they fixed the eergy thing
now if you played with exact amount before the cost adding calculation, your energy becomes a negative value, like -3 for example
and then the -3 gets summed with the energy you gain next turn
if your ept is 15 and you have -3 energy
you will have 12 energy for next turn
and no crashes anymore
so they didn't fix it, it shouldn't go to negative energy
they fixed it, it won't ruin the game
yeah they fixed the crash but there still is a problem, if going negative energy (playing my cards) isn't a problem, I should always be able to play 3 cards whenever I want
hmm
I' not sure if youre understanding
just play again with old west and you'll see it's okay
it doesn't affect gameplay
you will have the same result if they fixed on other ways, but i think this way is more benefficent for the players
wdym, can you still get negative energy or not ?
imnot sure what youre talking about man, but there's no problem in gameplay
I am talking about the fact that it increases your cards energy during the play phase, and the game energy verification (making sure you don't exceed your current energy level) doesn't take that into account so you can sometimes play more energy than you should (therefore going into negative energy)
oh yes
so you want that to change?
why?
is not that unfair for the opponent
is something good fot the person who is playing old west
Put this idea in #1168356463601782914
oh, i will then
idk maybe because it breaks the rules of the game
that's not a bad thing
is not hurting anyone
if oldwest were meta, people will claim for a change
rules are meant to order things
and the card is not generating any chaos
exceptions exist because that brings peace or a simpler solution
is just that
it obviously is. If someone is facing old west, knows the cards and the rule that you cannot exceed your energy level, but don't know about butch's cassidy breaking the rule, they can misjudge some situations and play poorly as a result and that's just one card, but if you can't trust the rules and any card can basically do anything and you can't know unless you already got bamboozled in the past, that's just not pleasant
hmm
so you have a bad memory about that card?
because it happen to you?
well, everything can't go how you want it, sometimes we get bamboozeld for not knowing a cards effect or the rulings
but that happens in every other games, in EVERY other games
not just card games
but it's okay, i lost to many decks, and sometimes feels unfair
sometimes the trades feel unfair
but sometimes is the reverse, and feels good
if something does not go as planned or good for you it doesn't mean it has to change
sometimes that thing that affects you beneficts the others, and more people
and sometimes that's just a problema that happens once, and it doesn't happen again because now you knwo how to deal with it
it's not about not knowing the cards rule of effect, it's about the game telling you something as a fact and then contradicting itself
but just because it caused you problem once, it doesn't mean it needs to change
if the problem affects you in other things or many people or it just breaks the harmony, then it should change
but some things are just tolerance, and it's part of growing
because of the lack of tolerance many women are now "Karens" or "twitter critics"
is not contradicting
is playind according to the rules
is just an exception
it takes the enrgy, after it has been played
you know that card from japanese soemthing that costs 9 and takes from you 3 energy on return?
it's kinda the same thing on practicity
is balanced because it keeps taking you the energy
it could be like very beneficious to you if you play it on the last round
but if it's not the case, then it's going to be the same for the palyer
because it will have less energy to play after
The game could say there is an exception and then, there is no problem with the rule but it doesn't, nothing reading the card tells you that this card is able to break the rule
sometimes to not break the rulings or because coding is too much work, the devs and leaders take shortcuts to not break the game in the process of fixing one error
instead of coding and breaking a lot, they d a simple fix to not complicate more things
it doesn't need to tell you
you learn
that's how it works
not just here
anywhere
literally anywhere
then you ask someone
I am not talking about me, I never faced that card, it's an hypothetical scenario that can happen to anyone
and then someone tells you why
you learn
and then you get more prepared next time
becasue you know
and it's a very little issue
it does nothing, almost
why?
bc almost no one plays it
is not meta
people will nerf it if they want
or change it
but if mostly doesn't say anything, that's because most of the people can get over it
then why do you take it as a problem?
even if i faced it soemtime
and i dont know about its effect
i wouldn't care that much
i will say
wow, that's a cool card
you're not a hero for compelling about this
there is a difference between not knowing anything and learning, and the game telling me something and contradicting itself, if the game is telling me a pack costs 20 gems, then after buying it took me 100 gems, it's not a "you just have to learn" situation
that'll be a problem
but that pack cost problem and this ruling thing
are different scenarios
with different consequences
one is lying to you
one is just not telling you before it happens, and does not affect your currency or something permanently
because a game
is
just
a
game
you can play more
for free
ill tell you
if this were a problem, then it have were a thing a long time ago
literally
it doesn't affect
in a bad way
both of the players
if the chest is played on the last round, on the last turn
then well, advantage
but most of the times, it doesn't happen
and even if they can play the chest
they won't
why?
cause it is, I get it like 80% of cards, no one plays that but the fact that it is rule breaking and therefore it should be changed doesn't depend on how popular the card is
well, if they have an old west card (that has the buffs on it) they will play it instead of the trasure
man
you're not a hero
for talking about this thing
just
accept it
get over it
if something bad happens
and people notices it
they will say it
and chenge it
they don't need your help
people can do it for themselves
you look like a new player
you are right?
and
you can lose a shield, we can count that as a currency or you can not gain coins you would have gained if it didn't break the rule, that's also "permanent" (you can get a shield back as you can get some gems back). And it's also lying, it's telling you that the card shouldn't be able to do that, but the card still does
is this your fisrt card game?
i can lose a shield for frambles internet bad connection
or for server issues
that's unfair
but if you lose to a card, that's becasue your cards are weaker
if you complain about tresure being unfair
why don't you complain for cards that are better?
like marsupials
or mammals
or frogs
or sharks
or birds
literally a lot of decks can beat old west
just get over it
i don't understand why you can't accept a "no" for an answer
that's very childish
you're not making a difference for saying that
we done talkng ok, just tell me what youre about to say
but ask and discuss this with other person
I have accepted it since the day I found out about it, I am not particularly mad, sad or angry about it, I know the devs won't fix it unless as you said, people complain about it, that's not the question
yes
is not a preoblem
you just dislike is not very "rule friendly"
you can't accept something being ambivalent
I have been away for so long, people forgot about me
No I am not new
lol
i never saw you write
sorry, im not trying to just being mean to you
is just, is not a problem ok?
is like amm
i cant think an example now
but, please, for your own good, forget it
or talk with someone
maybe various opinions
will give you a better answer
ok?
maybe you can find another that complains about that
except if you are impersonating a dude who I know was named at some point "fruxto" pretty sure we already talked before
and he/ she will tell you her/him opinion
lol
yeah funny story
i and some other guys decided to do this
is fun
lol
the fruxto virus got me
AAAAH
XD
im dotstyle on this server
that's why i changed it for fruXstyle
but i will become "normal" again
maybe a few days later
oh you really were impersonating fruxto
but I know dotstyle
is just for fun
ooh you know mee
that's sooo cool
thank you 
but yeah