🔨│crafting-help

[haughty siren]

oh sorry

[naive jetty]

No need to feel sorry my friend .just share with us ,so we can help you

[haughty siren]

deadeye elememtal hit of the spectrum

i'm basically following this guide
https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/elemental-hit-of-the-spectrum-deadeye-league-starter#gearing-header

[wraith prawn]

ok the bow listed in their "aspirational" is a relatively easy craft

though the base you'd want to work on is 7 div, and getting that high of tiers is expensive (but you can settle obviously)

if you're not comfortable spending 7 div on the base, it's probably basically free to get +1 arrow

yeah 1 div

[haughty siren]

is the dps difference big enough?

[naive jetty]

Big when you trying to pushing to max

[haughty siren]

hahahaha true

[wraith prawn]

i'm not super familiar with the skill - but generally the dps increase is [new # of arrows] / [old # of arrows]

[naive jetty]

You can still use +1 arrow to push to end game no issue

The difference here to be honest is quality of life

[haughty siren]

ok ok

[naive jetty]

Like your damage area have better wide space something like that

[plush storm]

THESE OIL CHANGE FOR VOIDFORGE SWORD OR CATALYST AND ELDIRTCH CHANGE FOR VOID FORGE SWORD

VOID FORGE CHANGE THESE ELDITDCH

[naive jetty]

???

[wraith prawn]

if u wanna get a relatively cheap bow on to settle now, a +1 will be perfectly fine

[haughty siren]

i think i can splurge a little and get a +2 arrow bow

[wraith prawn]

u can also get +1 on a quiver so you're not losing too much

[naive jetty]

Since you are new ,I would suggest start with +1 arrow .so you can upgrading other gear

[wraith prawn]

id have to look at the tree but iirc bow builds get 2 extra proj on the tree anyways

[naive jetty]

Survibality is important too

[wraith prawn]

yeah, +1 arrow is fine since u said u have 20 divs

[haughty siren]

tru

ok ok i'll settle for one

[wraith prawn]

sec lemme check smth for u rq

[haughty siren]

yeah, the skill tree gives a bunch of extra arrows

[wraith prawn]

ok, you actually don't need an ilvl 86 bow

[naive jetty]

I81 for T1 flat ele?

[wraith prawn]

generally ilvl86 items are used in crafting (because no modifier requires ilvl86). actually no modifier requires any item level at all but that's extremely forbidden tech i'm going to gatekeep because it makes me money

[wraith prawn]

82

[naive jetty]

Not crafting bow for many league
Forget already

Then would be cheaper

[wraith prawn]

86 = +2 arrow, %WED
85 = accuracy
83 = phys mods
82 = ele flat, proj speed

so really anything above ilvl82, u can get a fractured +1 arrow ilvl85 for 10c

[haughty siren]

uhh nice nice

[wraith prawn]

if you're using the in-game browser, this is how you search for your base

[naive jetty]

Btw according to the guide you trying to follow.meta craft is 2 divine per times

Don't spent much of divine to get the base only

If you lucky enough you still need at least 4 divine to do the meta craft

[haughty siren]

lol i didn't even know there was an in-game browser

[wraith prawn]

/ on an english keyboard

[naive jetty]

Press the /

[haughty siren]

dayuuum

you learn something new everyday

[wraith prawn]

i'm gonna use this craftofexile emulator project to show what i'm talking about as i say it, by the way - since you said you're new to crafting

there's really only 2 things you can do to get 3x ele flat prefixes on a bow. either you just essence spam, or you essence spam for 1 mod, then prefix lock (costs a good bit), reforge [element type], and hope you get a good enough tier to settle

each time you apply (prefixes cannot be changed) the cost of that is... well it's 2 divines unless you wanna beastcraft metamods, but that's also kinda annoying for prefix locks with an open prefix

[naive jetty]

The second bow is good .if you want spent minimum currency

[wraith prawn]

wtf why is that bow so cheap

[naive jetty]

4D = twice meta craft . basically free

[naive jetty]

Recombinator tech

NNN

He new that's why I never told him

[haughty siren]

yeah, that's a really nice bow

[naive jetty]

Is super complicated

[wraith prawn]

ah right

[naive jetty]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Mirage/aLk5Bpa3Se

[wraith prawn]

im so used to going for perfect items i forget u can settle for way easier on recomb LOL

[haughty siren]

im gonna buy it

[naive jetty]

Like he still new .so I prefer he spent his currency for more gear instead lock down for 1 weapon

And when have only extra currency then feel the crafter experience

[wraith prawn]

(btw if you were gonna craft this way, that would be way more expensive than literally just spamming essences, unless you were going for a super good bow. so you woulda just had to have sat there spamming essences which is unfun)

[wraith prawn]

yea for sure, especially because bows can be extremely annoying to craft

are the suffixes easy to finish on that bow? yes. are the prefixes fun? no. not at all.

[haughty siren]

hahahaha dayum

[wraith prawn]

oh believe me bows at this level are 1000x better than mirrow bows

mirror bows are basically the worst thing in the game to craft

[naive jetty]

I'm glad I still have loath thunder in std lol

[wraith prawn]

bow builds r fun but the crafting is not

[haughty siren]

i'll take that into consideration for the next leagues lol

[wraith prawn]

eh u wont end up doing those big of crafts

[naive jetty]

Use old tech ,doom fletch then stack all physical damage with bow abyss jewel

[wraith prawn]

do what u enjoy, crafting will (normally) save u money but also ur playing a game to have fun, so if u like a build a lot and enjoy playing it then play that build

[haughty siren]

yeah yeah

i think for now i'll stay on the buying side of the game, 200 hours in and it's my first time getting into maps lmao

i still have a lot of learning to do

[wraith prawn]

it's not a bad idea to experiment in craftofexile (especially the emulator) to get a good feel for crafting things without actually spending currency

though as the game goes on, we have more and more ways to craft things, so it can become more overwhelming

[haughty siren]

yeah...😅

[wraith prawn]

sometimes i forget that newer players are trying to learn something like 40 leagues' worth of mechanics at once

[haughty siren]

although this league i have learned a lot, now i just gotta keep it in my head for when the next league i play

[haughty siren]

exactly

(btw is there a channel here where i can text the bots to give you guys some rep?)

[wraith prawn]

literally any channel

[haughty siren]

oh ok

ty

[wraith prawn]

vouches r specific, help isnt

[somber crow]

Did someone help you out? Show your appreciation!
Use !giverep @user to give them a rep point.
It only takes a second and means a lot.

[haughty siren]

!giverep @wraith prawn

!giverep @naive jetty

tysm both of you! have a good night! (or day idk)

[naive jetty]

Come back here if you hit any difficulty

[light bobcat]

yeah I fucked up didnt know those clashed, realized later... thanks tho

!giverep @hardy pumice

[narrow pollen]

What should i block so i either get ms or max life (or have a higher chance to)

[soft tinsel]

mana

mana is 11% weight

or you mean veiled?

still mana if veiled too

[narrow pollen]

I hit somthing nice w veiled but i need the endurance back

Im losing my mind w this craft i feel like im taking 1 step forward 1 backwards all the time

[cursive violet]

You have 7 exclusive affixes total here. Almost all crafted mods are exclusive now, with only a few exceptions

On top of that, the fractured mod can’t leave the base it is fractured on

So if the double-anoint base is chosen, your effective pool is something like P2 / S4, and the chance to hit all the mods you want is 0%. Even the chance to hit a useful partial result is heavily diluted and lowered because you have so many extra exclusive mods clashing with each other

[cursive violet]

@light bobcat

[near sun]

who made this?

[light bobcat]

thanks for the response. what I dont get is the fractured mod part. I thought double fractured was possible, and as long as both bases are fractured they could be pooled. was it always like this?

[cursive violet]

@cursive violet

[near sun]

wow

[cursive violet]

Yeah, multiple fractured mods used to be possible

But recombs got globally nerfed twice: once when they returned as the settlers bench craft, and again in 3.26. Current fracture logic is different: fractured mods are locked to their original base and can’t transfer

So if both bases are fractured, only the fractured mod on the chosen output base can stay. The other one doesn’t get pooled like a normal mod

[cold cedar]

update: spent another 9 div on bases and now im left with 4 identical two mod rares XD

[wet lynx]

Hi guys, can u help me how can i craft axe like this as cheap as possible?

[open otter]

pretty sure that is flat phys essence spam till prefix bleed mod, open up a prefix and lock prefixes veiled orb hope for prefix into unveiled % phys. for suffixes if i had to guess the weapon range was just luck while reforging for the cull/% phys mod

[wet lynx]

so i need elder base and just spam essence, when i get DOT for bleeding then i lock prefixes, veiled chaos orb for % phys and what next to get culling strike :D?

block prefix and just elder ex orb for culling :D?

[open otter]

you are already on a influenced base the bleed mod is elder

[wet lynx]

so whats next steps if i get flat phys, %phys and %DOT phys, what can i do next to get culling strike?

[open otter]

you can reforge phys for a 1/8 for the mod but you can fill the item if you double exalt lock prefixes scour you have a 1/72 if you block attack speed and a bit better for the second slam

[wet lynx]

block pref and reforge phys in harvest on craft of exile gave me maybe 1/10 chance for culling, i will try :D

okay thanks mate :D

[wet lynx]

done :D

[young goblet]

Bruhh

@covert star

Nvm

Ty

Sorry for the ping, it was a scam acc

[rigid perch]

how to craft this

came over a few div, so i think i can afford to craft one

isnt that mirrored? i wonder why it isnt saying that,

[wraith prawn]

yes, it is. that's just behaviour of whichever website you're looking at.

[wraith prawn]

you need an average of 45 attempts to hit 3x positive mists - so 45 mists + 45 crafts of this focused amulet, or 45 locks + 1 craft of this focused amulet. the former is probably cheaper, but it's still not cheap!

[rigid perch]

thanks ! 🙂

[wraith prawn]

this may honestly be a recombinator situation, unless i'm missing something. my first thoughts are to do the prefixes, annul suffix, prefix lock, reforge crit 1 in 12. that means you're putting those prefixes on 36 times on average. +1 all is a super low weighted mod (50) so no matter how you do it, it takes a while to put on. you could theoretically spam scorn (multi) essences but that seems ridiculous to try and hit those prefixes like that

do you happen to know what the catalyst on that amulet is? (such as if you open it in pob), cause i could reverse-engineer the original values and see if they used scorn or not. probably not though

actually nevermind i can tell from that alone - they used scorn essences. weird.

[cursive violet]

https://youtu.be/gx8rmW-miyU?si=D-eSd5hzXWAAgtMA

[wraith prawn]

is that not an entirely different amulet*

[cursive violet]

It works the same way for a focused amulet. The only difference is that you don’t need an astrolabe donor base — recomb principle is otherwise identical

same 45% chance to win

[wraith prawn]

gotcha, you can carry scorn essence through recomb?

in my mind you can't bring essences through, but i guess that's "essences and something" through i'm confusing it with

also an interesting side note about that amulet in particular, it looks like it woulda been +4 with a prefix catalyst, if i'm understanding it correctly

unless catalyst doesn't also scale those mods' effect

[hardy pumice]

essence is fine, long as its the only exclusive mod

but also you dont need it to be essenced if you dont want to risk it, there's regular crit multi on amulets too

its just a couple percent points lower

[cursive violet]

No, that’s not how it works. The reflecting mist multiplier and its rounding happen first. After that, the combined multiplier from the catalysts and the base is applied, followed by another rounding step

That is why it's +2 and not +4 or +3

[wraith prawn]

gotcha - so it's different to have [1.2x effect (catalyst), 1.9x effect (mist), 2x effect (base)] than it is when a helical gets +3 charges from [2x effect (mist), 1.5x effect (base)]

i admit i'm lacking in my knowledge of new(ish) crafting mechanics, ty for education

!giverep @cursive violet

[somber crow]

@cursive violet, you have been promoted to Exalted Service Provider!

[wraith prawn]

that is Not how it works bot

[cursive violet]

[hardy pumice]

holy rep laundering

[shrewd oyster]

hello! i see channel title but do i ask question direclty in here? what is best source of info i can share? (i have a craft of exile ready if that is needed when asking for help)

[naive jetty]

just post the picture

[shrewd oyster]

i have this shield and want to increases my chances to get "#% increased chance to block" or "+# to maximum life".how do i find out which is the best mod to craft temporarily to block other options it can roll?

block chance?

[boreal rover]

flat armour has the biggest weight

block that and u have a higher chance to get life

[shrewd oyster]

now that you mention it wouldnt it be % armour since its on 5.447% and 4.398%?

which is higher than the flat armour of 7.035% and 2.382%?

like barely more likely

[boreal rover]

flat arm has biggest weight% after lifw

life

[shrewd oyster]

got it 🙂 thank you bloom!

!giverep @boreal rover

[boreal rover]

even so if u dont get life or chance to block since all u do is exaltslammaxxing u can craft the other

u can try foulbourn exalt wich removes some of the lower tiers in case u get smth good

[wraith prawn]

so - take a look at the rightmost column, the numbers in pink

that column shows a "group" of mods which are mutually exclusive

you'll notice that those hybrid mods are in different groups

[boreal rover]

and craft chance to block and accept the fact u gonna have only 50 ish wtvr it is as crafted

[wraith prawn]

so just because ytou have % armour, doesnt mean you can't also get %armour hybrid

that's why you care only about the weight of the specific mod (%armour on its own)

if we look at a different example - you can see there are some mods with the same number in the rightmost column (this is veiled mods on a bow). if i had %phys on this bow, it would block all of the first 4 mods, since those are all mutually exclusive with that mod

[shrewd oyster]

understood

thank you so much chloe! thought they blocked both

[wary furnace]

Guys what would be 1st steps to craft ring like this?

[open otter]

Get the fracture. Spam essence till you Hit any ele res. Annul it down to open prefix open suffix. Craft 3 crafted mods and suffix cant be changed. Harvest reforge life and hope for decent life and bench craft your hybrid res and swap your ele res as needed

[austere flint]

Was bored and randomly went to Rog... best move here, do i remove those two mods or take them as is?
If i remove mods and take boots with 2 x Open Pref. then what is the best options to finish them?
Can i guarantee any good slams from a Influence Exalted Orb?
Been looking at Redeemer which seems most appealing on prefixes - does bench mod "100% chance to avoid being frozen" ex. block the "Unaffected by Chilled Ground, Redeemer pref." ? and is it even worth slamming from here?

[open otter]

I dont think slamming influence is good there since you lose the eldrich implicits. The play is probably to remove those mods and bench life to finish

[austere flint]

What i feared.. if i go with ur play ill have to slam once for last mod and pray for a good outcome i guess...

[coral urchin]

Hey guys, how can I go about crafting this?

[hardy pumice]

block essence spam with some exalts, it seems

then lock prefix veil chaos for more resist

[muted juniper]

how would i go about crafting this? i imagine ive gotta get lucky with warlord exalt for the thrid mod but not sure about the other two

[wraith prawn]

https://youtu.be/gx8rmW-miyU

[muted juniper]

awesome thank you!

[rigid perch]

how to craft these :O?

[near sun]

so we know that recombs can only keep 1 exclusive mod pool in the final result, but if you craft 2 exclusive mods on both bases, will it both count towards the mod pool ?

like say you have 4 prefix mod pool, you craft exclusive prefix mod on both, will it count as a 5 mod pool or a 6 mod pool?

[plain vine]

It might be a mirror craft. r u sure u want to craft it?

[rigid perch]

it doesnt have to be perfect

[open otter]

you get elevated tailwind on a magic pair of boots on another pair you get elevated onslaught. You beast hinekoras the blue pair and awakenerorb the onslaught on the tailwind till you hit dex and open prefix. double ex slam suffix cant be changed scour for t1 life lock suffix veiled ex for movespeed the last mod is hinekora exalting till you hit what you want but thats for mirror items. If you search for onslaught tailwind boots on youtube you should find a lot of guides

[rigid perch]

alright thanks

[compact phoenix]

They both count towards the modpool but if they are both selected, the end result will only have 1

A maximum of one that is

[near sun]

yeah, this is "mod doubling" right "they are both selected, the end result will only have 1"

so for my example

[compact phoenix]

That's why u often see actual tragedies where an a recomb with 2 different exclusives end up in a total burning heap of garbage with like 1 mod

This is not mod doubling

[near sun]

4 prefix mod pool, craft 1 exclusive prefix on both, count as 5 mod pool or 6 mod pool?

[compact phoenix]

Is the 1 exclusive prefix the same on both items?

[near sun]

yes

woops

wrong reply

[near sun]

yes

[compact phoenix]

It counts as a 6 mod pool

[near sun]

oh

fucking nice

[compact phoenix]

Mod doubling doubles the chance

[near sun]

uh

!giverep @compact phoenix

[somber crow]

@compact phoenix, you have been promoted to TFT Friends!

[compact phoenix]

Thanks casper

Whatever that is

[near sun]

it's mainly becuase this post by butsicles changed how i approach recombing 3p mods

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1ldc3lz/comment/myia9ph/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[compact phoenix]

This is old

Oh

I see the recomb change being addressed in the post

[near sun]

the tldr is that if both items are rare, you can craft the same prefix on a 1p + 1p scenario and turn it into a 4 mod pool of 30% to get 3 mods and 60% for the 2 mod pool.

assume non-exclusive same crafted, i found out this is the result for recombing phys if it chooses 2 mod pool

slightly worse than just flat 1p+1p being 33.33% contrary to 31.8%

oh wait nevermind, even if it still counts as a 4 mod pool if you craft the same exclusive prefixes, the chance to pick the exclusive mod is still a 4k weight

[cerulean plinth]

what are you trying to recomb?

[near sun]

trying to get to 3p

[compact phoenix]

It's a 30% vs a 31.8

[near sun]

though, crafting the same prefix mod is significantly better for ordinary weighted mods

[compact phoenix]

It's an improvement overall but there are still limitation

[cerulean plinth]

3 prefix?

[near sun]

yes

[compact phoenix]

You can just do pure gambles for 3 mods tbh

What are u trying to make though

[near sun]

1p+1p for 2p of my sources have it be 33% at the very least though

[near sun]

nothing really, it's just this changes things for when i want to recomb 3p or 3s

[compact phoenix]

I thought u were talking about a 3p

[near sun]

oh

mb

lol

like, trying to get to 3p and you're in the 1p+1p step

[cerulean plinth]

its easy to get 3 mod outcome , but getting 3 prefixes that you want is just RNG , you cant guarantee

[compact phoenix]

If u want t1 flat phys there is a little trick u can use to source bases using a div card

[near sun]

before i suggested people to not craft prefixes and just raw dog 1p + 1p to get 2p

[compact phoenix]

Then u can go 2p into 1p+2NN prefixes for like a 50%*57% chance for a 3p

[compact phoenix]

This is probably what u should do

Because u end up with reusable bases

Cos sometimes u end up with 1p and that 1p is the crafted mod

[near sun]

pls refer to this. feel free to correct if my math is wrong though. i will however refer to the recombinator odds listed in that picture

whiel you cant get rare 1p mod cheaply, sometimes recombinator gives you that on failed recombs

[compact phoenix]

I believe there is some sort of hidden weighting to mod selections as well

[near sun]

there is

it has been figured out taht its the sqrt of the original weight

add it together and then there's your odds

and crafted mods have been found to have 2k weight

[compact phoenix]

Some guy did a decently large sample on level 18 vs level 20 influenced mods and apparently he had more success with 18 recombs vs 20

[compact phoenix]

Found by whom?

Is there reference in that reddit post

Because this might be approaching tinfoil hat territory

[near sun]

honestly, sorry. yeah probably tinfoil hat territory

jsut something i saw constantly getting said in prohibited library

ill try to look at the source

but assuming crafted mods are 2k weight, then this is the way to go when you get the opportunity to get 1p rares

[compact phoenix]

Afaik those weights only come into consideration when using the poe2 recomb

[near sun]

for now, just think of it as ramblings of a madman (me)

[compact phoenix]

Because poe2 base selection takes mod weights in consideration but the poe1 recomb is a pure 50/50

I'm guessing those assigned weights were obtained by comparing the poe2 mod recombs against a reference point of some sort

[near sun]

while i can't guarantee you that crafted mods are 2k weight, mod selection should be weighted

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JRsYYNr9-MZ7nL6_9sJkStN1R3jSEy3nlKnKQr-MZm4/edit?gid=447931917#gid=447931917

[compact phoenix]

🤔

[cerulean plinth]

there is no recomb mod weight in poe1

[compact phoenix]

Read the doc bruh

He might be on to something

[near sun]

holy

kmelholy

[cursive violet]

It's 3-mod pool if you doubling with exclusive prefixes

[near sun]

ah okay. thanks

so the way to go is crafted same non-exclusive

!giverep @cursive violet

[near sun]

made some calculations in prohibited library recomb channel. mind taking a look there if it's right? thanks!

[strong dirge]

what do i do from here to get es roll ?

[boreal rover]

if gems lvl are both suffixes u apply eldritch influence and spam eldritch chaos/exalt/annuls till u get desirable es

[strong dirge]

ty

[wicked latch]

guys how to craft this

[open otter]

phys as extra fire essence spam till you hit your prefixes. Your odds on reforging life if you hit area arent great. When your prefixes are done you lock prefix reforge crit for crit multi

[unreal egret]

You can’t really do lock prefix reforge crit if you want to craft a prefix - it might fill the prefixes
Bit of luck involved in this step

[open otter]

area phys as fire and life are prefixes

[unreal egret]

increased damage too

[open otter]

ah yeah

then its just 3 crafted craft prefix prefixes cant be changed

[unreal egret]

Doesn’t work

Both are suffixes

You just need to get lucky

To not fill

[open otter]

probably to make the prefixes it could also be cheaper to recombine with essence mod + either life or area

[wicked latch]

what is the best choose ?

[wicked latch]

i can buy one with mod fractured too

[inner steeple]

If you buy fracture base you cannot get influence mods

[wicked latch]

i ned to hit what preffix with essence? phy fire, life, and area of effect?

[narrow pollen]

First time trying to craft a simplex amulet, my objective is:

• T1 crit mult
• T1 max life or + 1 lvl to gems or t1 ms
• T1 rarity of items or T1 fire res

Not sure how to get there tho

Not sure if i should influence and what influence i should do, not sure if i should recomb or use awakeners

I hope someone can guide me a little bit

[covert star]

if u want t1 crit mult, t1 life and t1 rarity/res, none of thoes come from influence

for getting that it would be pretty much crit essence spam till u get your other suffix, then craft suffix lock and reforge life for example

or exalt if u want it to be cheaper but with less chances

[unkempt saddle]

Guys, there's any way i can reforge my t2 mods to t1?

[young goblet]

Not really, could with the memory orbs

But you prob dont have that memory stuff on your piece of gear i think

[stark ruin]

how to craft this

[inner venture]

need to pass that "increased attributes" to other base, which is the best way using recombination to do this?

[broken ether]

if i wanna try crafting this can i use a mirrored+split base cuz they are cheaper or no

[young goblet]

Mirrored is not changable anymore

Can only be split

Split doesnt matter

[broken ether]

i see

[open otter]

Isolate it on the suffix use an essence on the other item that cant appear naturally and does not have the essence tag. Make Sure that the essence nn mod and the attributes are the only mods on the suffixes. There is a spreadsheet out there for the nn mods from essences

[inner venture]

tyy

!giverep @open otter

[somber crow]

@open otter, you have been promoted to TFT Friends!

[open otter]

Make Sure the essence mod cant naturally appear on either item

[inner venture]

that can be work?

[open otter]

Should work

[inner venture]

the mod i want are in base "Spidersilk Robe" and i want pass that mod to base "Sacred Chainmail", u know the odds to do this?

[open otter]

If you do it with dex you cant lose the mod and its 50/50 for the base

[inner venture]

gotcha, in 5 tries

ty

[rigid perch]

possible to get

from this

if so how?

pref lock and what craft method?

[stark ruin]

crafted this

how much is it worth?

[inner venture]

is 50/50 if i wanna pass a base with quality?

[open otter]

It chooses the Base at random so its 50/50

[wraith prawn]

i dont think any spell block ones exist, but a +4 amulet is pretty cheap this league, like 70ish div if the 3rd mod is ignored. looks like crit multi and especially fire res are the big 3rd mods this league

if you wanna sell as-is, you can try starting around 150ish div and lowering the price over time

*150ish div is where the good 3rd mods are, so yours probably isn't any more than those, unless there's some build that REALLY wants spell block on their +4 amulet

[stark ruin]

hmm

ill start at 150

how many days should i wait before lowering price

[wraith prawn]

can't say, i honestly don't know how actively they're traded this league

[stark ruin]

hmm

[wraith prawn]

it's totally possible you'll end up having to lower it to the same price as any random mod on a +4 amulet, so i wouldn't wait tooo long or else it may take you a long time to sell, but also give it time for someone to actually find it

[somber crow]

Did someone help you out? Show your appreciation!
Use !giverep @user to give them a rep point.
It only takes a second and means a lot.

[stark ruin]

true true

!giverep @wraith prawn

[wraith prawn]

i will say that spell block at least sounds like a good 3rd mod, especially considering a lot of +4 amulets have testudo (attack block) anointed on them

but it's just up to if there's any build that thinks they want spell block more than, say, crit multi

[stark ruin]

i was thinking about using the amulet for myself lol thats why i put spell block instead of crit multi but ye i agree

ill probably sell it at 120-130 divs

[open otter]

For the same sword youd need to prefix lock and 50/50 annul the life on kill and then veiled ex with prefixlock for another 50/50 to not remove your attackspeed and a bit of luck for the right unveil.

[dapper veldt]

Playing in SSF on a banner stacking champion, looking for advice to finish crafting this item outside of just multi-modding it.

[open otter]

There isnt a great way of crafting with prefixes and suffixes at the same time. You could lock suffixes and reforge chaos and hope for a decent tier. Most likely it will fill your suffixes tho and you will lose the prefix. Flat and % armour are the highest weight besides life so getting some decent mods on prefixes later shouldnt be too difficult

[dapper veldt]

rip

[kind herald]

Do I have any option other than craft to block and slam? have all the mods needed, just wanna fill the last slot with something useful before crafting spell suppression

[open otter]

Only multimod prefix cant be changed veiled ex for a 2/3 to not remove your life on Block but thats an expensive gamble

[kind herald]

hmm...will consider it, thanks

technically i can slam it before to see what i get, right?

[open otter]

Then you could fill your suffixes if it removes the meta mod so no benchcraft

[kind herald]

yeah true

thank you

!giverep @open otter

[ornate kelp]

guys how can i make that

[wraith prawn]

ur cheapest option by far is to just mirror it

thats triple elevated with a corrupt essence mod

[worldly scaffold]

What method do I use to obtain these "to level" prefixes and complete them with these suffixes?

[hardy pumice]

sometimes theres a fossil combo, sometimes you alt spam for +1 and augment phys the other +1

im not sure about rune daggers, look it up on coe

[leaden radish]

how can i craft channelling skills have -10 to toal mana cost in here

[hardy pumice]

thats not a thing

its non-channeling -10

[leaden radish]

actually i've seen a lot of rings have it just simmilar to that one

there is even one in the market

[hardy pumice]

show one

far as im aware you have channeling -3 and non-channeling -10, there is no channeling -10

[leaden radish]

wait i will show you

[hardy pumice]

it could be reflected to double up the prefix i guess, you could get it that high this way

[leaden radish]

it's actually reflected i think

because it's mirrored

[hardy pumice]

well then you probably just need to apply the catalyst for mana and reflect

[wraith prawn]

you can get -7 chanelling on a non-misted ring (non-crafted mod on a manifold with catalyst)

[hardy pumice]

after a bunch of tries it'd happen

[wraith prawn]

but yeah -10 has to be misted

[hardy pumice]

oh yea and the actual veiled mod too

could transfer it with recomb, fracture and craft around it

[wraith prawn]

yea thats misted

if the minus 400 life didnt give it away

[hardy pumice]

those are all basically failed, they just resell

but if you keep trying that same reflect it will eventually land on the 3 mods you want to go up

[leaden radish]

oh sadge

do you think my chances are too low?

[hardy pumice]

1/10

[wraith prawn]

1 in 8 *

[hardy pumice]

u think?

1/10 far as i remember

[wraith prawn]

1 in 10 is for exactly 3 positive

[hardy pumice]

i take it they're deliberately adding the phys damage to reflect it negatively so you keep proccing divine shield

[wraith prawn]

ah that could be

[hardy pumice]

you really think the 4 and 5 positive outcomes are so high chance, they bring it from 1/10 to 1/8

[hardy pumice]

i would figure its more like 1/9.5 at the very maximum

[wraith prawn]

yes

[leaden radish]

okay wait can u please tell me what to do to get it positive

[covert star]

!bonk 321169647988637696

[somber crow]

you've hit the limit (3 per hour). contact a lead CM if you need more

[covert star]

@daring jungle

[leaden radish]

like what is the craft method for this ring

[hardy pumice]

lmfao no shot yall have a limit on how many bots can be killed

[daring jungle]

!bonk @torn prism

[covert star]

Its not usual to be so many in one hour hahahaha, must be to evade multi banning people if someone wants to troll

[daring jungle]

this is incredibly unusual

[wraith prawn]

data taken from here

fuck

wrong way around

ok fixed lol

[hardy pumice]

nice datasheet

ill bookmark that one

[wraith prawn]

yeah nw u didnt find it, i honestly dont remember where i even found it myself

very helpful for mists cause generally ppl dont document it

[near sun]

lots of juicy docs in the prohibited library

[obtuse badge]

waht would you guys do to fill prefix slots

foulbourn exalt slam n pray? not lookijg for anything in particular, armor evasion would be nice

[stark ruin]

how do i get pierce 2 additional targets on my boots

[stark ruin]

craft and exalt im pretty sure

[wraith prawn]

hunter elevated prefix

[stark ruin]

ah i see it now

[swift orchid]

hello guys! how i can up quality of weapon(bow) 28%-30%?

[open otter]

isnt possible anymore you need to buy a high qual base

[swift orchid]

ty

[broken ether]

this discipline suffix should be NN for the focus amulet right

[broken ether]

this should be good to recomb rn right , trying to transfer crit multi ,after i remove the metacraft

[cursive violet]

Yeah, looks right

[broken ether]

gg lost the base

[thick dust]

somebody help me pls. how to craft this shield?

[unreal egret]

Buy frenzy base
Reforge life for light dam + life or just reforge light for t1 life
Get open prefix
lock prefix until you get +1 light (might be 1 try might hit a suffix)
Then lock prefix and Aug crit for t1 spellcrit
Then lock prefix and gamble on Aug chaos

Needs to be an es base to be able to hit the prefixes

[thick dust]

tysm

let me try

[unreal egret]

^

[unreal egret]

Sure thing

[thick dust]

!giverep @unreal egret

[unreal egret]

@thick dust if you fill the suffixes with "3 crafted, prefix cannot be changed 1 random suffix" it should be +1 light gems

since there is only 2 light prefixes

and the harvest augment adds a mod first and then removes a mod

you can also use reforge crit if you want to gamble on filling the item, but id assume crafting the prefixes might be more expensive than lock prefix + scour + augment crit

[worldly scaffold]

Can someone help me? I need these two 'TO LEVEL' prefixes and I don't know which method to use to obtain them.

[young goblet]

Recomb prob

Aug spam and pray to recomb gods

[open otter]

You can make it with a crit multi fracture and alt/aug spamming for +1 all. depending on what you get from the regal you craft multimod and cannot roll attack mods and harvest augment phys. its Really annoying to roll that many alts/augs tho and on the augment step you can lose your +1 all.

[spring nimbus]

So im still classed as a noob and i have no idea how crafting something that is even somewhat close to this. How would I best go about crafting this? Would also love for someone to tell me the basics on how all this works or if you know a contentcreator that is real good with explaning all this

[plain vine]

It's a mirror item. So the best way is to prepare a mirror and divine orb, then find players who offer mirror services.

[spring nimbus]

Ah i see, that makes me wonder if the other items will be needing this aswell

shit

[compact phoenix]

i think theres a small curated list of crafting tutorials for new players on craftofexile

if you're familiar with basic crafting lingo, u can just google a craft before you begin

[spring nimbus]

Aight Thx, yeah I´m somewhat familiar with the basics so might give that a try

Problem now is farming for all the currency i need to buy shit so guess its harvest strat time or recomend something else?

[wraith prawn]

generally speaking if you see a triple synth item in a pob you are Not going to make it yourself and its a mirror item, triple synth items are generally more expensive to make than the mirror you spend mirroring it

[spring nimbus]

So what would you recomend me trying instead? Like getting as close to that as i can without mirroring the item or?

[hardy pumice]

its doable to craft a single synth explody wand with essence and veiled phys

that probably as close to it as you would be able to get

[spring nimbus]

Hmm aight ill see what i can end up with just gotta get some currency to fund this, thx!

[hardy pumice]

and the power level im not sure, i guess maybe like 70% of the way there

check in pob

[spring nimbus]

weill do

!giverep @hardy pumice

!giverep @compact phoenix

[small notch]

Hey i am fairly knowledgeable with crafting but a bit stumped at these suffixes, craft of exile resonator crafting estimate is giving 400+ divines to hit any resist or chaos as a third suffix yet they are very cheap on trade, any tips appreciated

my craft of exile template

[wraith prawn]

generally speaking if you want to put str/dex/int gems on equipment you pair it with corroded, which removes the ability to get ele res. i wouldnt be surprised if this a slam (or reforge fire) situation

i got this which admittedly is super lucky, but i think your best odds would be comparing getting those 2 fossil suffixes and then separately adding the res you want

though before i say that i'll re-check your resonator price cause that seems a bit high

[wraith prawn]

ok nvm faceted prices are way higher than usual; it's possible those were made when faceted fossils were cheaper, it's possible those were made by putting on the 2 gem mods then slamming/reforging the res

[wraith prawn]

(also yes i realize these are the wrong 2 gems but it's crafted the exact same way lol)

[small notch]

no you are right with the faceted prices its advantageous to hit the gem suffixes first and craft/pray from there I am just very inexperienced with gem crafting in particular thanks a bunch o/

!giverep @wraith prawn

[wraith prawn]

btw i checked, dense|corroded|faceted is best this league for those specific gloves*

we like corroded because ele res mods are weighted super high and it's way easier to get the cool gem mods if u cant get ele res mods

[small notch]

just curious but CoE is giving me aethric corroded faceted as best combo instead how did you get that

[wraith prawn]

you don't have minion fractured

[small notch]

aight back to reso jail

[small notch]

5th reso into 1 reforge chaos

[wraith prawn]

ggnoobs

if u want the same prefixes im not gonna bother to check but im pretty sure its just block mana -> slam -> uncraft -> funny annul -> repeat 48 times for t1 life

[small notch]

almost its just block armour instead haha thanks again o/

[wraith prawn]

ah armour is higher weight?

[small notch]

cant roll mana on str gloves

[wraith prawn]

oh shit ur right LOL

im so used to paladin gloves

[small notch]

thats how I got the fracture in the first place with that nnn recomb magic

misery gives a mana prefix that isnt essence named

[wraith prawn]

o i just noticed ur working on 30% overqual, make sure u remember to sacred it

[small notch]

already done chief

[wraith prawn]

good, easy to forget sometimes and u lose like 10% defences bc u never checked sacred lol

[austere flint]

Question regarding crafting on bases with or w/o memory stands(MS)

If you were about to craft an item and went to by a base with X mod(s)

1. Do you look for items with MS
2. If yes to question 1. - Is there specific up or downsides to MS in certain situations to look out for

[wraith prawn]

my experience with strands is that, generally, the best use-case scenario for them is to imprint a good base with a lot of strands, use fossils to get a set of Good Enough™ mods, and up-tier them. this is how you see really cheap overqual items with t1/t1/t1 defence* prefixes get made, since strands are relatively cheap now.

if you're buying a base that already has a mod (i assume you mean a drop-restricted mod or a low-weight mod fractured on it), strands won't really do too much there, you'd only get one chance at using them, and unless it's something like 100 strands uptiering from t2 to t1, or you just want a yolo foulborn ex slam to be ever so slightly better, it won't really affect the crafting process much, since if you miss whatever is related to the strands, you don't have the option to go back

i guess you can have a drop-restricted mod moved to a magic base with strands on it? i haven't personally done any craft like that but that would allow you to keep the strands, though you couldn't reforge rarity without deleting the mod so you'd have to lose some strands to regal

[hardy pumice]

recombs always produce a rare item

[wraith prawn]

ah gotcha

[hardy pumice]

so i guess you would have to scour with a lock first, then imprint, then lose a bit of strands to regal and try your thing

[somber crow]

Did someone help you out? Show your appreciation!
Use !giverep @user to give them a rep point.
It only takes a second and means a lot.

[austere flint]

!giverep @wraith prawn Thanks for a very thorough reply

[halcyon jasper]

How do I craft these but p1

buy fracture then roll wrath into fire cold then what?

[halcyon jasper]

anyone?

[inner steeple]

try use google bro

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/16mot4b/how_to_craft_an_ele_ts_bow_for_omni_that_has_2/

watch it

[hardy pumice]

3 year old post

not much changed though so yea just do that

only thing that did change since then is they removed resistances from bows so you don't have to worry about hitting a resist when you reforge fire etc.

and you can always switch the damage types with harvest these days, so you can use the cheapest lifeforce available if you wish to augment

[warm zealot]

When I google synthesised implicits theirs a lot of nonsense about the affixes on the equipment can effect what sythesized things roll, is that true? Or is it all from back when their was something called a synthesizer which doesnt exist anymore? Would adding memory strands to the item help the vulture roll rarer things?

[hardy pumice]

its just old data from synth league, from like 4 years ago

no longer true

beasts as a whole dont interact with the strands, they dont consume any

even simple crafts like "exalt a modifier" from beasts don't use any strands

so no, i dont think even with the wild assumption that strands could potentially affect synth implicits, which i don't think is true at all, it still wouldn't work

[wraith prawn]

yeah strands dont affect synth at all iirc, or at least theyre not consumed

and there is no publically accessible data on synth modifier weights in this game, it does exist out there by some big time mirror crafters, but it's gatekept really hard, and nobody has put in the currency/effort to test for the public

[hardy pumice]

i wonder whats even the point to hide that data, isnt it basically public knowledge that the implicits people actually want are just really rare, like charges, t1 crit multi etc

does it really matter if people think its a 1/500 or 1/1000, nobody would do it anyway

[wraith prawn]

yeah i'm not sure. i assume probably it has Something to do with blocking implicits?? but either way i think it doesnt change much since extremely few ppl even have the currency to make perfect 3synth items

[noble eagle]

Does anyone know if my idea is good? I want to craft a ring with the synthesized implicits, my idea is to craft two rings equivalent with the prints, a ring I want the prefixes added cold damage per frenzy and maximum life using the horror essence, and the other ring I want the suffixes Mana regeneration rate and cast speed. And so I can combine the two in the recombinator, with the enormous luck of getting the two suffixes and prefixes that I want. After this I will go in the menagerie to change my synthesized implicits until one of them comes with maximum power charges. Does anyone know if this dream could be possible?

[hardy pumice]

not possible this way

because recombinator will not preserve two essence modifiers

one will be discarded, exclusivity rules

if the mana regen rate exists outside of essences, you can use that instead

[noble eagle]

Oh okay

[hardy pumice]

but if you can overcome that hurdle, sure, the rest is possible

very unlikely of course, nobody really ever crafts items that way

you'd probably have a way easier time buying a power charge ring, then spamming essences with harvest augments on that for the mods you need

than crafting the ring first, then rolling thousands of vultures

its not a good plan

[noble eagle]

300+d for a maximum power charge ring

[hardy pumice]

3000+d to roll it yourself

[noble eagle]

Make sense

[hardy pumice]

its 5div per vulture

which means you'd have to roll it within 60 tries to break even compared to buying

and lemme tell you that is not happening

you'd have to be the luckiest crafter alive

[noble eagle]

Okay, ty

[hardy pumice]

also remember, try not to buy a bone ring or unset ring base if you do go for buying it

those have a bunch of other random modifiers in the pool that you don't want

[noble eagle]

I'll test it, buy synthesized bases with 3 implicits and reroll in the menagerie until I get what I want, otherwise I'll go back to farming.

[noble eagle]

Okay, I will remember that

[hardy pumice]

good luck then, they say its like a 1/1000 to roll the charge implicit

who knows maybe you can really hit it

[noble eagle]

If it works, how much do you think it could be worth? About 5 mirrors?

[hardy pumice]

what, the triple implicit ring with power charge?

[noble eagle]

No, just one

[hardy pumice]

i dont get it then

if its just 1 implicit power charge then it will be worth the same amount as they already do on trade, 300d as you said

[noble eagle]

Okay, thanks, that was really helpful.

[woven rapids]

Hello all, Wanting to craft something like this. Ideally i keep all 4 mods but i could drop the multi potentially. Im struggling to think of an idea other than just kind of essence spamming and hitting a shaper exalt for the prefix and pray?

Looking to get relfect immune on my build and feel this might be an option

[wraith prawn]

are you specifically looking for a shaper influenced ring

[woven rapids]

Nope, Ijust want the reflect mod

[wraith prawn]

sec let me Do Battle with my computer to let me open craftofexile then

can do it like this

fracture insanity mod -> spam scorn for t1 dex (i put on all attributes too for Fun) -> suffix lock reforge life for t1 life, u can then craft like -mana cost on ur open prefix

on average ud fill prefixes at about the same time as u hit t1 life so if u wanna settle for t2 for budget reasons thats fine

^^ also, for budget reasons make sure u lock suffixes with beastcraft instead of paying 2 div, they were like 50c for a matron earlier today its way cheaper

[woven rapids]

Thankyou goat!! I completley forgot about insanity essence

Appreciate it 🫡

[wraith prawn]

corrupt essence mods are Weird, no worries

[woven rapids]

Thanks! Happy with this one 🙂

[wraith prawn]

ggnoobs

[rancid hinge]

How to add bench mods in craftofexile emulator. Cant seem to find it

[soft canopy]

after 2weeks...completed.

[open cedar]

trying to gather upgrades on ssf.. what would be the best way to "finish" this item? got 1 open suffix still and limited divs/annuls

[plain vine]

Do u mean adding these gray mods?

[gentle stone]

I would either regular exalt slam or slam an influenced exalt like shaper exalt for max endurance etc since ur ssf u might want to check what exalts u have and what influenced mods would fit best

[open cedar]

i got some of all. i may try the shaper exalt then 😄

[open cedar]

ill take that 😄 thanks for the suggestion

[neon cape]

need some advice here

i was crafting this for an int stack ward loop looking for 8% and got a 15%

is there any build that can equip this with such high str and dex and also stacking int

[plain vine]

Not available. It's best to roll 8% or 12%.

[jolly parrot]

How was the recombs and awakener orb

I plan to do the same craft on a spirt blade

[soft canopy]

i using awakener orb and hinekora for last suffix affix

there say recomb and higher odd

[jolly parrot]

A lock ???? Nahhh i can’t do that

[soft canopy]

i not sure 2p/2s + 2p/2s how big is the success rate for 3p/3s

yea..hinekora..i spend around 12 hinekora for last suffix

[jolly parrot]

I’ll watch a guide on it or something

Can’t wait

[soft canopy]

yea..u should try.

[jolly parrot]

It’ll probably be used for whatever giga melee i decide to play

[unique wadi]

Does anyone know if the legacy Crusader mod and the Infamous fortify mod are exclusive?

[open otter]

I know infamy mods are exklusive non elevated influence mods shouldnt be

[cursive violet]

9%

it's trivial math: 0.3^2

[soft canopy]

so..30% literally have to see your luck still. ppl do tell me "usually" i have to use 60 locks to successful last suffix..

[cursive violet]

Sounds like they don’t know how to craft this type of weapon but are giving advice anyway. With recombs, this is way cheaper than locking last affix, order of magnitude cheaper

[soft canopy]

yes..i know recombs will be cheaper

but just too much work

[dull maple]

why 20% qual

bruh

gz tho ig

idk why so many ppl just dont do 24+ qual it costs like 0

[wraith prawn]

is recombing not less work than farming 60 locks' worth of currency

[soft canopy]

idk..i just complete tis claw like 12-15 locks of price..if not mistaken.

maybe u guys can go and try the recomb way.

probably will be cheaper...if u have good rng.

[dull maple]

i lowkey get him not wanting to use recombs its mega cancer

i also only recommed till 3p and just crafted 5 mod with harvest

but 6 mod crafting without recombing seems way way more cancer than recomming ngl

[soft canopy]

using recomb..probably need 40-60 bases... awakened orb / tons of beast locks

[boreal rover]

6 mod items are literally mirror tier items

[soft canopy]

alteration spam is quite annoying tho

[boreal rover]

so unless u go for giga crafts there is no point

[cursive violet]

Good regex + mass alt spam + a full tab of prepared bases, and you can make basically any 6-mod weapon in few days

Also, big chunk of mods combo after the woke orb step can be isolated with cannot roll attacks + annul

[copper quiver]

Is there any reason to buy an UNsplit Simplex If I know im not going to be splitting it? Or do I need to? IM trying to make the Crit Multi/Rarity one

[dull maple]

i mean the only rly annoying thing is just rolling ruthless if u dont wanna settle on 18

probably rolled 50k+ for it in total

[wraith prawn]

the only thing that the split tag does is prevent you from splitting it again

so just buy a split one for crafting

[dull maple]

idk how it is in ur case but if u want a +4 amulet its always just best to buy unsplit

[vale talon]

How do we get Increased maximum mana % on a ring ?

[dull maple]

since u can get the +2 all skills as single mod easier and if it fails u can just sell both for same price as unsplit

[hardy pumice]

special prefix, delve or incursion dont remember

recomb it onto the base you want

[vale talon]

Oh... So i just gotta go delving to get it ? 😮 sorry didn't really dive into delving ever in poe

[hardy pumice]

you just buy it on trade

if ur in ssf, tough luck

[vale talon]

gotcha... Thank you so much!

[copper quiver]

Nah Just 100+Multi 150+Rarity

[cinder bough]

just found out u cant scour to make this magic any way to make this magic?

[wraith prawn]

afaik you can't make focused/simplexes magic *with a mod

it was very intentionally removed from the game

[cinder bough]

fk alt spam be it then

[wraith prawn]

what is alt spam gonna do for you, if you can't get a mod on a magic amulet

a random amount of mods between 0 and 0 will be 0 mods

[hardy pumice]

there is literally just no way to do it

the imprint craft method for these is dead, people use other methods these days

[cinder bough]

k nwm ill just buy it

[copper quiver]

Wait so yea to craft the simplex with >100CritMulti and >100rarity, What spam Crit Multi Ess, hit both rarity mods, then Mist it?

Is that it?

[wraith prawn]

if you hit t1 rarity suffix you can annul a prefix 1 in 3, lock suffix reforge drop 1 in 4

[copper quiver]

Yea I already got T2 rarity prefix

Im just thinking about end-goal

[wraith prawn]

you can also get 90 mult, 118 rarity without a mist, the odds of 3 positive on a simplex are 1 in 45, so i'd settle unmisted* unless u want to spend 45 locks, which atm is ~9 mirr; or recraft the amulet 45 times, which is probably cheaper but way more annoying

[copper quiver]

I dont think I really want to go for T1 Right now with the currecy I have, when I make more Ill prob go for t1 then mist i guess

90multi from where? isnt it just dextral?

[wraith prawn]

essence multi * simplex multiplier * catalyst multiplier

[copper quiver]

Yea

Right now im settling with 82multi 86rarity

before catalyst

[wraith prawn]

thats 90 with catalyst yea, unless craftofexile is a liar

[copper quiver]

actually dextral are 2 for 320c not bad. Ill check right now

[wraith prawn]

if u do want >100 multi + rarity, your best option would be to put on 1 mod u dont care about and then mist 1 in 3 to be happy

instead of double rarity ^

[copper quiver]

All or nothing

We ball

[copper quiver]

yea, 90/90 now

Imma hit it with 1 div

wow 83/99

[wraith prawn]

ok so im stupid and its Mod * (simplex + catalyst) multiplier

idk why i thought they were multiplicative oops

either way number is still 90

[copper quiver]

Yup

Now, back to farming

A 99% increased rarity, I better see a mirror

[wraith prawn]

i hope this is a joke and you realize rarity does nothing to currency drops

[copper quiver]

Yes i am joking

[wraith prawn]

good bc there are ppl who dont realize

and its always hard to tell them LOL

[brisk mesa]

hi guys i need dat ring but i dont need +maximum life, chaos res and +to strengh and dext
i need redused mana cost of skills, fire resist and accuracy , what can i do for dat?

[hardy pumice]

realistically - nothing

it is never going to be feasible to craft a mirror ring from scratch to match the implicits but with different stats, unless you're an actual mirror crafter looking to service it

[naive jetty]

What is the purpose of accuracy that you need ? basically for atk build accuracy masteries +500 accuracy and precision is good enough

Unless you are accuracy stacking buildd

[brisk mesa]

im just bought base ring and try to craft with essense

[wraith prawn]

so - the exact ring you said isn't reasonably possible to make. replacing the mods 1:1 leaves you with -mana cost and multi on shatter. these mods both cannot roll from veiled orbs, and therefore can only exist on an item in either a crafted state or if they're recombed on. while you could recomb on one of these mods and then craft the other, doing that on a +charge synth base is an absurd waste of money

[hardy pumice]

reduced manacost does come from regular veils though

[wraith prawn]

does it? it has a weight of n/a

[hardy pumice]

-manacost doesnt

[wraith prawn]

o right

[hardy pumice]

reduced is just a part of the mana mod

[wraith prawn]

yea i forget theyre different mods oops

[hardy pumice]

ring still sucks to craft

[wraith prawn]

ig essence spam for t1 wed + open prefix, prefix lock veiled chaos unveil reudced* mana cost, and then suffixes are... ig u either prefix lock aug fire then slam or u craftge but either way it feels awful

[brisk mesa]

what i need to do after?

for accuracy and fire res

[naive jetty]

Most burn divine part

[brisk mesa]

alright

i have this

so how i can add fire res? 🙂

[hardy pumice]

lock prefix augment fire and pray

and its like a 1/22 to add t1 fire

gonna have to repeat that quite a few times

[brisk mesa]

but i have t1 accuracy, i need this to 😄

[hardy pumice]

hinekora

its a 1/7 to hit t3 or higher resist with foulborn exalt, then you can swap it to fire later

which isnt really much better than just doing the augment

1/7 actually, thats i guess better

[wraith prawn]

just going block -> slam slam -> scour or aug fire -> slam -> scour might be cheaper but it's honestly probably pretty close to just using locks if you're willing to settle below t1 and its way less annoying

[hardy pumice]

so if you craft dexterity+intelligence and slam foulborn ex, its 1/7, and if you do lock prefix augment fire, its a 1/8. So it seems foulborn ex wins

to hit t3 or higher resist, that is

t1 would be the same just a lot worse

3 times worse, well

[wraith prawn]

unless ur in standard ig, if ur in standard locks r too expensive to justify but im assuming ur in league

[hardy pumice]

you wouldnt be wasting locks on that no way

at that point just mirror a ring

surely you can find something that is close enough to being good

[brisk mesa]

sorry im newbie in poe, so i block preffix, bought 1 hinekora, use it for ring, after i check foulborn exalt and 1) get t1 fire (or any) res and t1 accuracy i will stop 2) get trash,> use blessed orb for new hinekora and repeat?

[hardy pumice]

classic newbie in poe using locks for crafts

[wraith prawn]

blocking prefixes would do nothing for lock-slam

u block a suffix (dex+int) so that u cant get either dex or int on ur slam

meaning ur odds of getting what u want r better

[hardy pumice]

you'd want to check both foulborn and regular exalt, and you want to craft dex+int

and then yeah you just keep trying

i guess with two exalt types, it should be doable in like 10-15 locks?

which is still a ridiculous amount of money

[wraith prawn]

anything over 5 locks its more worth to mirror, but i looked at mirr shops for what u wanted and it didnt exist so ig ur becoming the mirror crafter for that ring

[brisk mesa]

its not like beast hinekora? i mean 1 hinekora for all craft 😄

[hardy pumice]

i dont understand the question

[wraith prawn]

get your ring to this state, use a hinekora's lock on it, hover over it with a foulborn exalt and a normal exalt, if neither of them are [t3+, or whatever tier you want] of any elemental resistance, then bless (or catalyst if you cant bless it) the ring to remove the lock, use another lock, and repeat until you get the mod you want

you're using multiple locks unless u get lucky, it Will be expensive

15% for foulborn, (t3+)
11.1% for non-foulborn, (t3+)
so 24.4% to hit t3+ ele res each lock, if you want t1 it'll be 1/3rd as often so ~8% which is ~12 locks (about 2.5 mirrors), ~4 locks if you settle on t3 (~0.8 mirr)

[hardy pumice]

nice math

i gotta wonder at that point isnt it cheaper to get the 4 mods with cant roll attack, then do a yolo lock prefix veil exalt for manacost

its gonna take a lot of tries to get that manacost that way but 2.5 mirrors in locks sounds like it'd easily be more expensive

[wraith prawn]

unveil is rly awful though bc theres a lot of mana mods

so ud probably have to redo it a few times

[hardy pumice]

actually you'd probably rather multimod lock suffix

so then its a 1/15 unveil

plus however many divs to keep rolling the item back when it bricks

but it still could be cheaper than 2.5 mirrors of locks

[wraith prawn]

id have to check the odds on doing suffixes by just block scour slam jail

cause at 2.5 mirrs thats like 1k+ tries

ig that method itd be best to slam acc then lock prefix aug*** fire but thats also just awful

wait im stupid

[brisk mesa]

alright, t5 fire res, anyway its good

just use that

and 50/50 to remove accuracy or preffixt cannot be chang

and i win, but t5 fire

but its ok

[naive jetty]

Most burn divine part is prefix lock ,spam R/A fire and R/A attack to get both T1

[wraith prawn]

yeah thats what i said at the end (slam acc -> lock prefix -> aug fire), its a 5% chance to get t1 fire (15% for t3) so u'd have to redo the slamming accuracy part over and over if u wanted a high tier

[naive jetty]

You can change ur fire resistance to other resistance too ,if you want to re-slam R/A fire

[wraith prawn]

i mean reforge attack has a lot of options + u run a 1 in 12 chance of filling unless u aug attack -> aug fire

[hardy pumice]

dont think that would help

lock prefix would be the last suffix

[naive jetty]

Harvest bench tho

Resistance change to similar tier

[hardy pumice]

augment needs open space

[wraith prawn]

^

[naive jetty]

Oh my bad

[wraith prawn]

if u wanted to uptier it ud just have to lock prefix annul 50/50, lock prefix aug** fire and pray

i keep typing reforge instead of aug

[naive jetty]

Is add before remove

[wraith prawn]

yes

[hardy pumice]

aug is just worse than yolo foulborn slam

which is how we got to that in the first place

[naive jetty]

Wait ,he playing with what build actually

[wraith prawn]

9% into 5% to aug -> aug

[naive jetty]

Do this affix is really necessary

I'm asking at very first

[hardy pumice]

idk we didnt ask questions

really fishy person anyway, new to poe yet is out there spending thousands of divs

[wraith prawn]

i mean u asked at the start and they just never answered

[hardy pumice]

just give them whatever they wanna know and wash our hands of the situation

[naive jetty]

Yep ,I dont want to said anything out of games .just to ask what was his build so can just excluding the simple affix that can settle with basic jewel

[wraith prawn]

my general assumption when i see someone crafting a really weirdly specific ring is that it somehow is perfect for whatever build theyre on

cause rings tend to look weird

[hardy pumice]

my problem with it was that after you hit the t1 accuracy its just straight up easier to foul slam then augment

and you dont have to waste locks to preview it of course, because its cheaper to just get the accuracy back than spend a lock

[naive jetty]

Highest chance to get it right

[hardy pumice]

when i looked at it yeah

[naive jetty]

Any T1 ele can be change it with harvest bench

[hardy pumice]

it was 1/7 with foulborn and 1/4 with aug fire but also 1/2 to keep the accuracy

so basically foulborn is better

but oh well, they got their ring in the end

[wraith prawn]

am i missing something

thats 3.69% for any t1 ele res

[hardy pumice]

it was for the t3 or higher

[wraith prawn]

ah ok

t1 better aug, t3 better slam then

actually no t3 is 15% which is higher than 1 in 7

[hardy pumice]

i didnt actually look at the %

just the estimate it gives, close enough for me anyway

but even for t1 foulborn ex is better it seems

1/20 for augment and 1/19 for the foulborn

[wraith prawn]

?

why is urs different wtf

[hardy pumice]

because you didnt specify foulborn i guess

[wraith prawn]

i did

[hardy pumice]

with accuracy and dex/int blocked?

[wraith prawn]

oop LOL i forgot to block dex/int on this one

thats on me

yea 1 in 19 then

[hardy pumice]

augment gives the extra opportunity to do lock prefix aug attack, in the rare case where you hit t1 resist but remove the accuracy

[wraith prawn]

yeah true the old Slam It Back method

[hardy pumice]

basically idk whats better on average, both seem awful but very close, depends on lifeforce and foul ex prices

[wraith prawn]

sorry im being slow i had a bit to drink tonight

[hardy pumice]

wish i was this coherent when drunk

[wraith prawn]

im at the point where im a little slwo

but not yet violent

[untold anvil]

how i can remove this crafted mod

[wraith prawn]

cant

mirrored blocks all interactions unless it specifically is with something tahts meant to be used on mirrored items

like reflective(?) oil

[untold anvil]

oh damn

so i can't do any thing in this case

[wraith prawn]

yeah thats a bricked +8 attempt

i mean the min frenzy charges r on there specifically because u shouldnt care if theyre positive or negative

cause getting a +8 with 3 positives is super rare

[copper quiver]

Alright got my funds

Ancient Orb btw

Now we really craft

[silent horizon]

is -frenzy tech for flicker strike or other skills that consume frenzys?

[wraith prawn]

no not really afaik

[winter fulcrum]

It’s minus min, so it only does anything if you also have plus min

[wraith prawn]

you only care about those mods because the inverse of them is - min charge, and 0 - 2 is0 still

[winter fulcrum]

It’s just there to be a “if it hits alongside everything else cool, otherwise no harm”

[wraith prawn]

its really really hard to get all positive mods (1 in 45 on a simplex, 1 in 97 on a helical/manifold)

but it's relatively easy to get a select 2 (simplex/focused) or 3 (helical/manifold) positive

so u get mods that dont matter or cant be inversed alongside the mods u care about

[silent horizon]

i swear i read before if you get minus minimum charges then for things that consume charges u count as using that many more except u stay at 0. infinite discharge

[wraith prawn]

that may have been true at one point, i haven't heard of that personally but i also never play builds that care ab charges for anything other than endurance charge = tank | power charge = crit

[silent horizon]

yeah, maybe its been removed, i just see a lot of expensive rings with minus minimum frenzyz

ur reason make sense tho

[naive jetty]

Isn't discharge abuse already patched ?

[unique wadi]

This helmet has a legacy delve suffix that gives +3-5 extra maximum fortification and a Warlord suffix.

My goal is to recombinate the legacy delve suffix onto an item that has the Elder influence and the Infamous mod "Nearby enemies take 1% increased physical damage per 2 fortification on you". Ideally just those two suffixes.

What are the best steps to prepare? Should I craft mods on both?

[open otter]

Delve mods and infamous mods are both exclusive mods so you cant get both together

[unique wadi]

What if either is fractured?

[unreal egret]

doesnt matter

[unique wadi]

Okay. The only way to get max fort and the infamous mod at once would then be the legacy crusader mod?

[unreal egret]

idk what youre trying to make but not using a legacy penitent mask is for sure troll anyway

[unique wadi]

Suppose I get an item with crusader max fort on a legacy Atonement Mask together with Elder's nearby enemies take increased phys just like that. What would be the safest way to recomb in the Infamous mod without losing the Crusader mod?

I think I have 15 legacy masks left.

The build is pure phys fortify stacker. I'm up to 81 max fort on the non-Farruls version. 86 if this craft works.

[open otter]

Best odds are probably around 28% if you Set up the infamous mod with 2 other mods that cant go on the elder crusader base

50% right Base and 57 for 3 mod with a 5 mod recomb

[unique wadi]

Should I add a third suffix to the elder crusader helmet?

[open otter]

The third suffix on the elder crusader Base could be picked So pretty Sure the odds are worse

[unique wadi]

Alrighty! The best donor helmet would then most probably be an Int base with one different influence, because I can reforge a defense mod that can't be on STR+DEX.

Thank you, this has been very helpful. :)

[broken ether]

if i wanna craft this is it better to just essence spam annul exalt until all 3 or just aim for 2 and then awakener orb the last one from another amulet , or is awakener orb gonna reforge the crit of

[hollow plover]

how to craft this?

[somber crow]

Did someone help you out? Show your appreciation!
Use !giverep @user to give them a rep point.
It only takes a second and means a lot.

[hardy pumice]

recomb

2p+2s then cant roll attack annul-exalt spam for guaranteed decent enough prefix

[hollow plover]

For the 2p2s am i looking for attack mods?

[dull maple]

anyone has an ek miner pob?

[hardy pumice]

yes

[broken ether]

or does this have to be recombed , i tried recombing earlier for different one with aoe , crit multi and move speed and lost 3 bases

kinda done trying to recomb cuz -200div

[stable arch]

what do people craft on this cluster? it seems to be high value base

[solemn cave]

can anyone add lvl 30 spider aspect on these from menagerie ? ill pay for any cost plus fee (10div)

[wraith prawn]

uh sure if u want, @AbyssalChloe is my ign

[covert star]

Can i ask why u wanted someone else to do it?

Just curious

[solemn cave]

honestly copying a build this my first league

[wraith prawn]

ok i may pay u back in that case because u overpaid by a dramatic amount

[covert star]

More than understandable, was just in case u didnt know how to do it, to explain you for future cases hahahaha

[wraith prawn]

i usually just dont ask questions on crafts/payment but if ur new i feel bad

[solemn cave]

all good i just wanted it to be quick thats why i overpayed this my last upgrade

[boreal rover]

smells fishy

[cursive violet]

with Elder's nearby enemies take increased phys just like that

You can’t recomb Infamous with the inc dmg taken elder mod like that directly — elevated influence mods are exclusive. You’d have to elevate it after recomb with locks

What would be the safest way to recomb in the Infamous mod without losing the Crusader mod?

The real question is whether your legacy crusader suffix is exclusive

If it’s not, best setup is 2s + 3s:

– 2s = your 2 target influenced suffixes
– 3s = Infamous + 2 other influenced suffixes (non-elder/crusader)

That gives you a 5-mod suffix pool → 57% to hit all 3 suffixes after winning base

[cursive violet]

Do you happen to know if that legacy mod is considered exclusive for modern recombs?

[unique wadi]

Thank you for the detailed writeup. 🙂

Now, if the legacy Crusader mod was the only suffix on the recipient base, what'd be the optimal play for recombinators?

Awakener's Orb can be used to safely get influenced mods onto other items. Its results can also be predicted with beast locks, so if I roll only an Elder prefix on the recipient item (legacy Atonement Mask) I could technically just roll until I get that as the only suffix, right?

[cursive violet]

Yes, that approach works. You can prepare the legacy base with elder influence, roll the nearby phys damage suffix, then use imprint/beast lock to safely combine it with the legacy crusader suffix (donor base) and isolate both

But the more important question is: what’s your full crafting plan? You still need to complete the rest of the item afterward

It might be worth thinking ahead — for example, pre-rolling memory strands on the legacy base so they can assist later when finishing prefixes

I’d wait for Jix answer here tbh. He clearly has more expertise on this specific stuff, and I wouldn’t rush to poof legacy bases/mods

[unique wadi]

The idea, as expensive as it might be, is that according to CraftOfExile, "Nearby Enemies Take Increased Physical Damage" is the only physical tagged suffix in the Elder + Crusader helmet modpool. Therefore, I can keep clearing the prefixes and doing "Suffixes cannot be changed" and physical augment until I hit it.

Then clear prefixes, augment an influence mod and Hinekora's Lock for elevating, if I get that far.

[cursive violet]

This idea is fundamentally wrong for two reasons

First, “Nearby enemies take increased physical damage” may be the only physical-tagged suffix, but with reforge phys it still competes with all phys-tagged affixes, including phys-tagged prefixes. In your case, there will definitely be phys-tagged prefixes

Second, augment influence does not exist anymore — but that part is already irrelevant, because the your plan breaks at the first step

[unique wadi]

Memory strands is a great idea, though I'm not entirely sure how I would get the strands and then ensure an item with clean suffixes and one influenced prefix.

Harvest reforge or fossil mana could do it, but the item would have to be Rare before that, which could take all the strands.

[unique wadi]

Great catch, I forgot you couldn't augment influenced items Probably because it majorly sucks.

I was prepared to soak the item in yellow juice completely, as the elder mod's weight is 400 out of a total 4600, but since augment is out of the window and normal reforge can fill the open suffix with garbage, I'd either have to get both the elder and crusader mods recombinated with the infamous mod simultaneously, or be prepared to use lots of locks.

[cursive violet]

I’m assuming you meant influenced suffix, otherwise

Memory strands is a great idea, though I'm not entirely sure how I would get the strands and then ensure an item with clean suffixes and one influenced prefix

doesn’t make much sense. I’ll answer it that way

On std you can use legacy alchemical resonators to go from normal → rare without consuming memory strands

Rolling the influenced mod itself doesn’t matter much — harvest reforge phys or fossils both work. Then isolate the suffix, downgrade to magic, and start your imprint/lock chain from there

I do get the impression that there are some gaps in the underlying crafting fundamentals here. With this level of uncertainty in the mechanics, it’s very easy to make expensive mistakes

[unique wadi]

Ah, those Alchemical Resonators were before I started playing, it seems. Never mentioned in the guides I saw.

I'd say there's moreso gaps in how well I communicate my ideas, sorry about that. To clarify, clean suffixes was with the idea in mind that I would have an Elder+Crusader Atonement Mask with only the legacy Crusader +5 maximum fortification as a suffix, then recombinate that with a donor helmet which I have already prepared with the Infamous suffix and two Shaper suffixes. However, this idea was conceived when I mistakenly thought you could harvest augment influenced items.

After all, it's been safer in my experience to get two desired mods from a recombinator. Also, because I thought getting the Elder suffix was a matter of persistence rather than possibly costing multiple mirrors, I viewed that one as the most disposable one. It still is, but kinda need to hit it during the recombination too.

[iron star]

any advice on hitting this cluster? Currently my thought is start with fractured inc effect, reforge fire (since purple juice is cheapest) until reforge fire+t1 aoe, wbm for suff lock into reforge life or just spam reforge fire and exalt/annul pray

[cursive violet]

The fact that you already have a double-influence base (elder + crusader) with a legacy crusader suffix changes everything

This is exactly why it’s important to mention all variables — in crafting, even small details can completely change what the optimal approach is

Given that, I’d recommend downgrading the legacy crusader base to magic, adding suffixes cannot be changed, and then building an imprint chain from that position (using reforge phys to set up the second influenced suffix)

After that, isolate the two suffixes and proceed with the 2s + 3s recombination we discussed

But again, before doing anything, you absolutely need to confirm that the legacy crusader suffix is not exclusive

[unique wadi]

I've been trying to figure out if it is exclusive. The information seems hard to find.

As a final clarification: At the moment, I have two legacy bases with just Elder influence, no mods. I'm waiting to sell enough stuff to afford another legacy Crusader donor.

Based on a previous attempt, I know that the legacy Crusader mod can be moved safely onto the legacy base with an Awakener's Orb, which is why I planned to do that again, but this time make sure there's no third suffix to damage the chances of getting a good result.

What might be the safest way to move the Crusader mod from this base onto a safe single solo Crusader influenced helmet? Just doubling the chaos resistance?

Or getting another elder mod there with locking suffixes and reforging crit?

[frosty dragon]

Any way where i can get a 30% area of effect modifier here and or remove the life regeneration for something else?

[noble eagle]

anyone know if its possible to get 3 prefixes and 1 suffix in the recombinator?

[cursive violet]

I’d just use crusader INT base

Roll low-tier sorrow for NNN dex + any tier chaos res, and use it as a donor for the woke orb slam

90%+ chance to keep legacy crusader suffix

[unique wadi]

Going to do this now, brb

[somber crow]

Did someone help you out? Show your appreciation!
Use !giverep @user to give them a rep point.
It only takes a second and means a lot.

[unique wadi]

Aww, failed twice. Deleted two Atonement Masks, second time lost the legacy mod.

Life's a bit sad some days

[cinder bough]

whats the chance to hit reflecting mist for +8?

[thorn ether]

I'd budget at least a mirror or two worth of locks

[unreal egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242314046443753482/1499081256304906420/image.png?ex=69f579f7&is=69f42877&hm=6fc047184ddf1913c7b3c0541ee87323a97734684698f20f62c4108d3149e98b&

16.5 locks average

[cinder bough]

ty

!giverep @unreal egret

[tiny tide]

Is there any way to safely add crit mult or attack speed ? Or is it just block mod - exalt and pray ?

[boreal rover]

block prefixes - gamble aug crit

pray it hits a t2+ tier and doesnt remove ur t1 crit

or aug speed wichever u want

[wraith prawn]

block - foulborn ex slam migjt be better

but im too lazy to check rn :D

[unborn mural]

Can anyone guide me on how to craft this? I know about the synthesis, but I don’t know how to craft the rest. Also, is the minion wand easier to craft than a normal base wand ?

[compact phoenix]

u want this exact wand?

u mirror it from echo

[unborn mural]

[compact phoenix]

or do u want mine

[unborn mural]

Yeah, I’d like to learn too.Yeah

[compact phoenix]

u genuinely will not be able to craft this

[plain vine]

@unborn mural First, prepare 15-20 mirrors or more.

[compact phoenix]

the suffixes are mad hard

[unborn mural]

How do you make the prefixes? Do you fossil first, then annul down to only +1, use Aug Phys, and finish with a Veil?

But for the suffixes, I can’t figure out how they made them.

[plain vine]

yeah

[compact phoenix]

fish for +1 then aug the phys and use a veiled chaos

[plain vine]

veiled exa

not chaos

[compact phoenix]

suffixes are probably fishing for phys dot and lock exalting the 2 stupid ass low weight mods

u can veiled chaos

veiled exalt isnt really worth it with current prices

[plain vine]

spell damage is prefix

[compact phoenix]

yes

[plain vine]

• 1 pre

[compact phoenix]

u can get +2 and then pref lock veiled chaos just fine

🤷‍♂️

[unborn mural]

What method do you use to try to hit the Phys DoT mod?

[plain vine]

how to veiled pre while u lock pre?

[compact phoenix]

u get the enchant for add crafted mod and craft 2 crafted mods

[plain vine]

chaos veild

[compact phoenix]

2 mods

prefix cannot be changed is a suffix

craft that and veiled chaos

[compact phoenix]

u aug phys with 2 crafted mods

alongside a rare ass enchant

good luck

[unborn mural]

After you hit the Phys DoT mod, you have to double exalt for the two remaining mods, right?

[compact phoenix]

with locks yes

[unborn mural]

That sounds insane.

[compact phoenix]

that's why u mirror it

the divine on that thing is perfect as well so its decent use of your mirror

and youll use it forever

[unborn mural]

Okay, thanks for answering my questions.

[plain vine]

need lock for 2 mod of suff

[compact phoenix]

...

english?

[unborn mural]

I forgot, why do we craft it on a minion wand base? Can we do it on a normal base instead?

[compact phoenix]

the wand originally had minion damage on it

but it was recrafted

[unborn mural]

Got it, thank you

[plain vine]

need to use Hinekora's lock for 2 mods of suffix.

[compact phoenix]

🤦‍♂️

[plain vine]

The crafting difficulty is the same for both the normal base wand and the minion wand.

[stark verge]

how i can craft this?

[white mango]

i need help on how to craft something similar but no need for both the mods to be elevated (Already got the base item and one of the mods

[random field]

can anyone help me when i awaken hineko boot both my tailwind when awaken give same mod does it not change ?

[compact phoenix]

It changes if u have a different mod permutation

[jagged shadow]

I mean this is just 2 elevated mods smashed together. The prefixes are nothing and the lighting resist was lucky off the woke orb

[white mango]

yeah i figured it out but became broke in the process of failing

[covert star]

Time to farm sirus

[white mango]

i cant xD

got to much spread out damage on my spark build

[covert star]

oh, u were playing spark, right

sadge

[white mango]

yep indeed

oh shit just realised its you xD

[covert star]

[sour fox]

Anyone got time to hope in a call with me and give me a 101 on crafting wanna learn it

[hardy pumice]

just watch some guides

craftofexile has one embedded on their main page

[silent horizon]

try using orbs

[serene meadow]

Currently crafting a triple synth large. Was wondering what would be the best way to get t1 life, int, all attributes and inc effect? Been using fundamental/sanctified/pristine, but is there a better way?

[wraith prawn]

if u just want it done fast and for a reasonable ish price then yeah thats the best way

u can take off sanctified and save a good bit of money

itll take like 2-3x as long but its cheaper

u can also slam (not worth foulborn) if u get 3/4

[halcyon jasper]

Anyone know a good website for a Delve/ Fossil Cheat Sheet Crafting?

Like what fossils to use to get the best results for X affix

[wraith prawn]

craftofexile is ur friend

[serene meadow]

I'm pretty stocked up on sanctified already from previous crafts so I'm good. I kinda forgot that without fracturing how long this actually is gonna be. I'm like 700 deep, 9 unlucky slams so far

[wraith prawn]

oh wait hold on im stupid

ok honestly

it may be a alt aug regal ex situation

sanctified is worth it in ur case

but its kind of an insane amount

[halcyon jasper]

I remember there is a website where you can weigh differnt fossil for different affix results is it craftofexile?