#📈futures-stocks-chat
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You will need to explain me in dm. I don't understand these rules. So more explanation please.
will do
will message you in a bit.. just managing some crypto trades atm
Thank you Sir!
would you reccomend TopStep as a prop firm then?
Topstep / Trradeify /Take Profit Trader and Apex
seem the most popular ones
depending who you speak to ofc
Is there TopStepX platform decent?
Fed minuts are out
well this wont help
haha
i know they are old
but still 😄
i like it
depends what you are used to
Beautiful
Like to see some move down going into close so we can take long entry
si patron
topstep on topstepx clean ass executions
and believe they are the cheapest
okay will look into topstep then 🙂
they all have different price points
AND rules too
so just be aware
ah okay, so like different rules per account size?
Can't find a good move...
i am out will look at asian open
Different prop firms. Type of Drawdown etc
Memocoin NQ 😂
whats the news ha
Pause 90 days
sup qaction
different profit targets to pass each account size
different rules each prop firm for accounts and payouts
@surreal dust yo u trade on props or gotta broker?
both
but 90% of my focus is on props
probably 95% tbh
19K round number
I am do spread betting in the UK tho as it is tax free
which is basically the same as futures trading
damn
what was ur entry?
why 521?
That is where demand is and we go long
hmm i dont want to enter a short goin into power hour will wait a few mins once 1hr closes
did NQ halt today?
nah
why a pic of a concentration camp?
guten tag
that's what i've done today and I was MIA
Sehr geehrter Herr groovy, wie geht es Ihnen heute?
you missed a thing
what
You're in Germany?
that's not in germany...
lol
oops
poland
arent you german
damn misssed the scalp
Beautiful last trade
nice dumpsky
New record
what is that word
lmao... my life rn
sell/buy signals
hahahaa
this mf just talking about race cars rn
and he gonna make the market go crazy with one word
what do you mean?
Congrats man trying to get there!!!
Thank you very much! Best of luck to you!
lmao just got stoppped so quick thoght we were headed back down.. had bearish divergence
lmaooo
Anyone still trading today?
does anyone use this volume on topstep? if so can explain?
trying lol
nope
Nope
never even seen it before honestly
Nope
have you ever used the lux algo cash flow?
Yea this a new market
volume profile shows where trades happened
yellow is high volume, blue is low
poc is longest bar most trades there
price bounces in yellow moves fast in blue
anytime man let’s keep cookin 
i am gettin cooked lol
NikoQuant, is your username hinting at your approach to the market?
wall poster wisdom
What's your score today?
Both of course😃
haha i wont say the total
but traded 7 funded accounts
biggest single win was 16.2k
on one account
others were much smaller
And here I thought for once I finally got close. Still a hundred miles ahead
man
you bank 15k
you are already miles ahead of me
3 months in brother
Absolute madness! Was that on the Trump news?
Not quite yet. Let's see how long it'll take to catch up😁
here i cant even pass evals
lol
i was up 800 today
just to keep getting wicked
yes was in that trade about 1 minute 
you will get it man
A 3 months salary in a minute🤣
i can't claim that it wasn't lucky
:/
lol
We in a bearish fvg on the daily on es i wonder are we gonna reject here
just happened my TP was hig hlol
You were expecting the price to go there?
ive tried shorting twice andhave lost 1k lol
yes it was an upper target
obviously didn't think we would get there like that
I often set targets where I want it to go initial and the work down to more realistic levels for tp's
turns out i was realistic with it 
Then I wouldn't give luck too much credit. You assessed price would continue to go there. Just got an acceleration
I'm still in spy puts even after that big move 🤷🏿♂️
Just my opinion😅
Balls of Steel
how long have you been in Options?
crazy day, early morning moves, dead during lunch, then Trump pausing tariffs for the markets riding the elon rockt !!!!!!
at least they didnt lock everyone out for some lame excuse
LOL
which firm has these rules for trending pump/dump days?
did you trade today?
i'll take it
haaha elon rocket
is true tho crazy day
NQ breaching into +12% territory
lol i saw this too..... and then ignored it when i saw Wealthcharts... have you tried it on there?? SO BAD.... they are crazy if they think anyone wants to use that platform
none but alot combat that through consistency rules on max profit for the day
What's so bad about wealthcharts?
awful interface, awful trading options, awful design, awful to use
Anybody here have good experience with Options?
imagine someone who doesn't trade coming up with everything they think you need to trade with and then designs it
options are amazing
Sounds like a product designed to fail
everyone should do them
it was 90% off with an influencer code I saw on twitter but it was too late
Apex is one big designer fail
i have it on email
i can send you the code if you want it
Actually? Would you choose them instead of Futures?
i would do both
i do both
You mean Patrick Wieland's stream?
Is selling options actually worth it? Considering that downside is basically endless
they are both usefull
especially if you own the actual stock
it is very effective
@agile jasper if you want it
Which platform do you trade options on? Thinkorswim?
Because of that pattern day trader thing, right?
think you can do options on city index too
or you can use Interactive Brokers as well
but I hate their interface haha
it is just their account requirements
i actually initially got an account because Schwab bought out the company I was with and then i got transferred over 😄
Do you actually look at the Greeks once you sold the Option or do you just look at how the stock itself performs?
So you were in Finance before Trading?
this was a long time ago
just the strike prices / stock price
you already know the premium / p/l on either side
no I found them when I first start trading
as I joined a side called "motley fool"
which was full of info on stock trading / options trading
ah, I understood it as in that you worked for the company that got bought out haha
really great website I recommend for newbies actually
matt trades or something like that
haha
not keen on that shit platform
i still haven't activated those free accounts they gave me
i passed them
and have been billed 2 or 3 times
i want rithmic so i can do quantower
now for them
alreayd have my MFF on rithmic
because I didn't cancel them
even tho they are passed ... Apex still charge you
assholes
tradeify the same
😂 need to cancel
What's the research process like before buying or selling options? Do you look at the financials or just stuff like volatility, PA, etc?
Also, when trading Options is it just like Futures where you usually close positions quickly or are these positions held for a longer time?
Or give them to me 🙂
you can choose the timeframe and the timeframe effects how much you can make from them
similar to day trading... but again depends on your timeframe... you can write options for a 1 year+ away or just for the day
BT trades options
very frequently
and I believe he does them for the day too (which I dont)
so good to ask him
if that is what you are interested in
no worries
open an ig account
its free
i think you can demo trade options
but can't remember exactly if they still allow options trading on demo these days
whos going cash?
actually

ooops
what does ig stand for?
ummm
pass
just google ig . com
tho
it is that one
i'll login and check for you actually
some good gaps in the wake of today's "reprieve". the indexes might give a bit back, tonight.
no doesn't do demo options trading
but if you create an account
you can get access to the options chain on there
and play with it and get a feel for P/L and how it works
there are other sites for this tho
someone mentioned one to me the other day that requires less margin for positions
will see if I can dig out the name
I have traded options very extensively. mostly on the sell side. Let me know if you need any help.
It was after the big jump I think
Yup
nope
Was too busy pressing buy lmao
Market manipulation?
didnt just yesterday he say he wasnt gonna remove tariffs early
Do they eat it all up tonight tho?
Well, he didn't remove them. He "paused" them
I mean
did he just cut them to 10%
still goldman has recession chances at 45%
I might open up shorts
This structure is so sexy
White line is the channel. Let’s see here what happens. Trump just threatened Iran lol
Market took this as coast is clear, it’s not (read yet)
45% recession chance lmao
Perfect. Just got some basic questions atm.
- What are they like in comparison to Futures like NQ? What's better about them and what's worse?
- What's the research process for these things or rather what do you look at before you pull the trigger?
- How do you find good Options Trade ideas?
55% chance it will be because of trump
oh nvm its 35% now because he removed tariffs
98%
wild
Mate
I fucked up
forgot to trade lean hog today
Absolutely
Options are a lot harder than futures. There’s a ton of variables that go into the contract price. You can technically be right and still lose.
iron condor jade butterfly straddle unicorn dinosaur reverse donkey vietnam flashback double teabag strategy never lost before
I guess I should rephrase that lol. Stay away from naked options plays 😛
he really did
Delta, Gamma, Theta, Vega and Rho, I assume?
wild
I was actually contemplating, but didn't...
lol
Yeah. I remember in the GameStop days they were adding more to the chain when it was going wild, I was completely wrong direction wise and caught a huge win overnight anyway.
damn
well, I'm basically being forced to learn it. But at least, it's very interesting
someone gets it
he will get there eventually
is this 10% bump problem solved
I need another 26% outta amazon to get back to those juicy good numbers
well now i wish i bought stocks on monday
there was literally no way to know
he even said yesterday he wouldnt remove the tariffs
then did today
so
Bought some Tesla and META luckily
he posted in his X thats its Aprils fool
ding ding ding
At list 120
Bringing down the profits to match the 1st day profits for the Top Step worked. They passed my accounts. Thanks for the advice.
Stock broker is going to make so much money right now on the puts and calls. It's got to be crazy for every move in the market. Someone's making a dollar
Options trading is very vast and interesting subject. We should discuss this and learn.
It is not just buy calls and puts but has limitless possibilities.
Always. From one hand to another
Es back where it left off nq not 🤔
Asia still sleeping
they didn't sleep last night that's for sure
caca
perfect. Was just thinking about you
Can you trade on a different platform with TopStep or do they force you to use theirs?
Nice hourly close
Caca, is there a limit for how much profit you can make with Top Step Express per day?
Consistency rule?
no
Do you use their platform? Is it good?
Nice move
i use topstepx and i love it
Beautiful
still bullish?
Yes
Anybody got a Topstep promo code?
We are at VWAP

there is no such thing
So many highs and lows I can use my toothpicks/chopsticks on
15s?
I’m trying to stay on 1m please
Don’t speak evil 😈
Easy
Hahaha
What’s next?
I’m hungry 😋
Not much food there today. May be after 8pm. Till then you fast.
Like to see a drop and take liquidity.
Yup
I’ll just be a spectator until late London
The toothpick break down was good for 5-6 pts so far
Delete
Delete
Delete
same whats ur TP?
we ripped up today i was so zoomed in did realize it
TP = Moon 🌙
im still in 3095 .
damng GC
missed that whole move down...
guhhh 😄
3120 danger up there. I thing we might see a bit of correction in this inflated price
choppyy market
I was wrong. Seems to be strong as always 😉
Took a cl short
you can have the risk management team increase your dll once you get a live account. i had 2 100k XFAs and when i went live someone contacted me asking if i wanted to change my dll and i had them increase it.
nice!
wow what a start
yes was a good trade
we going all the way back down
nothing surprises me anymore
🤦♂️
haha as long as i finish the week in green i dont mind 😂 currently backtesting different stop losses for ES atm
Getting no reaction
movements so lackluster... Seriously considering a 15s timeframe now
im patiently waiting till after NY open now but wont be on for long after open so my trading days prob done
second that
LFG
big contracts these days aha ill stick to me 3-5 micros 
and one NQ micro 😄
TP locked
lovely stuff
random diddy candle again
was lot of retracement on the M7
trading ES?
NQ not going past 1 contract or 10 micros
mag 7
ah
I have one screen for those for day
I need more screens...
helps to give an indication of what is happening
4 min in my opinion haha
i know some people trade with 1
but I can't do it
I like my info
and I need it for how I like to trade too
nah, you at least need two these days. One for trading, one for news
Have one too little then haha
have to break out the laptop sometimes
damn, so keep a fifth just in case
Was actually thinking about a 5 vertical screen setup tbh
welp this has been my worst day this week all within in 10 minutes 😂
sorry to hear that
yeah I would like a 5th
just need to figure out logistics cause my current system is a bit mismatched lol
My condolences. What happened?
As in?
Not only useful but it can look awesome
Was probably my bad judgement as ive just woken up, but was trying to get a short scalp and the diddy candle just wiped me out 
4 different monitors
gm
not as pleasing to the eye, is it haha
damn, ll on 1 minute NQ
On the topic of monitors, I currently trade off a macbook so am forced to only use 1 external screen
gross.
if only i put my stop a few ticks higher
Did opt for a 34 inch widescreen, so i can still fit quite a bit on it but am definitley starting to see limitations on the one screen
Another thing I'm noticing... Need to keep track of ES too. NQ made an LL, but ES made an HH so it went up
uhh was trying to copy trade my 9 apex accounts and trading 1 full min and so 9 total for some reason the order was rejected but insteady traded 9 full on just one account....
barely moved and was up...
haahhaha idk what haooend but that was scary
never had that issue before
stressful😂
yet another random diddy
GM
gm
at least no software error then haha
Happend to me and blow my account the other day.
There is something wrong with Tradovate copier.
during asia?
i was lucky that my trade played out.. but i'm doin top step and apex and didnt notice it unitl i saw one screen just up a bunch..and the rest of the accounts are zero
scary stuff
Not sure but all the contrafacts supposed to be executed evenly in all the accounts and instead was executed in only one account.
Yes
Whats the news today. I was hoping for market up when i wake up.
CPI-stuff in 1 1/2
ok
And 30y Bond in 6
shitty
@quiet turret did you have time to look at my questions about Options?
apparently there was an issue with euro futures
yo to my folks in here that trades apex and topstep
do yall manually enter you enteries on both platforms?
or do u have a masss copt trader
chop city
topstepx
has built in copy trader
Apex you need to use tradovate or ninja (never use ninja but presume they have that function)
yes i know i use it! But i trade both firms. so on tradeovate i copy trade and topstep.. im looking for an all in one buttton
lux shows upside break patter for NQ and down for ES... lovely 😄
so probably then yes?
if you can use tradovate on both?
Coin Toss and full port
BT or Caca probably know the exact answer
as they use both
and copytrade
ill wait till they are on cuz rn im entering both copy traders and im in and out quick
i do mine manual on apex
yeah for sure and apex is a pain if you use TV like I do
i rotate the accounts
I dont always use them all on the same day
i think market is waiting for news liquidity injection tbh
glad didnt take it.. woulda been stopped
i am in an ES long
from the lows of the 15m
but will probably get stopped out
been in and out 3 times now
in case we get another crazy pump 😄
doubt it will happen pre us market tho
Reaction to news was relatively weak recently
it is going to kick off today for sure
going to be a long day again
would really like to see ES and NQ break and hold above the 15m recent high candles pre news tbh
otherwise I might come out of positions if I am still in any before the news
we will see
was there news?
Some Hassett statements and EU stance on tariffs
for overnight do you mean?
news has been mixed during london session
slightly more bull than bear
overnight I dont think there was substanial news... but there was CPI or PPI i think in a few Asia countries
Man, this PA is just absolute dogwater
Yes. I will dm you.
Done, TP at 900 🙂
news in 15.. yall trading it?
was thinkin about it.. wil see tho.. we just choppin rn.. was able to get a few scalps off
smh tried to long right there didnt work out
i fancied shorting ES shame its news in 4 mins
for now. sorry it was 13:30 in poland but i forgot at 14:30 are the news here 😂
yeah.. kinda sketch will lay off.
and just watch
cuz i was thinking the same once i got stopped for long
was wondering where the rest of the move was for a second haha
20 points spread NQ AHAHAHAHHAHA
damn, CPI below forecast
Hello everyone, welcome to DAY 4 of 5. Try not to Long when you are to Short or Short when you are to Long, watch out. NUGGETS: On your trading desk, don't forget to have water ( THE SCREEN WILL NOT GIVE YOU UNLESS YOU GET IT YOURSELF) to cool you down, also, take some time out to go to the GYM, this helps to relax your bones and refresh the brain. Happy Trading. 
Glad i got this right. 😎
Passed 1 apex eval in 1 second. First time with this strategy.
Gimme some
It froze also but I set it up 2 min before it froze.
what's the new strat?
buy high sell higher
whats the last few numbers of your account ?
Why 😎
yeah, did the same thing yesterday
good afternoon
ga
curiosity killed the cat madam
mine says 3 and i paid for 2 before and just paid another new one and it changed to 3
Ah i see. It goes up by 1 number.
9:00 open was a push yesterday be wary
Would love to go long here but this doesn't look too nice
more that wick on the candle before
so whats your number?
what's your view on it?
rejected higher prices atleast temperarily I have no idea where price will go ever. I just try and catch a ride
For my apex account or the eval number at the end
it was news candle so it might sweep those highs
ah, you meant that one
just wondering about the nubers at end, why go up
same.. looking for entry
she is trying to get your number @turbid musk 😏
did not give me what I wanted
hehe
crazy hehe
ok let me try to pass
if not i buy one more and then give up i think
i need help
@nocturne sigil
hey hey
Ah i think it's because same account but different eval account. The PA is starts at 001 i think.
Need some help here
Strategy worked backtesting from 2021 till now got 2 trade per day
reached tp but didn't trigger ffs
cool pp
hmmmm is this tradingview? doesnt look like it?
ahhh ok
how would I help? on a strat idea?
Fx replay
oh ok ok
I have problem in backtesting with premium indicators
If we can go through it next live
whats the problem?
I want to make more than exit scenario
Like if I have 2 SO if one of them candle coloring becomes violet exit breakeven point
You need help with passing apex?
so your just needing to improving your current backtest results? not sure if I can be of any help here, as you woul dned to make adjustments here and there, its just a process you need to go through. have you look here for areas that you could adjust? #🔥ai-resources
Let me check it thank you
yes
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I was thinking of joining you at 360
Is it same strategy. That was posted in #1128499789437354106 a while ago. s/o
very choppy
thought to go short on es but that last 1 min green candle scared me away
that'll do me for today
Just waiting on the sidelines
same es the last few mins is wild
man...
my scalps are not smooth this morning
Whatever retailers made yesterday, market will take it back today. Just be patient and wait for the good setup.
same. Not enough follow-through
my TP's for scalps today were 20 ticks, but had to move back to 10ticks, and even that was painful to get that tagged in
Ticks? What did you trade?
4 for 4
3 at 1o ticks
1 at 20
mES
futures is always ticks
any symbol, moves in ticks
4 ticks to a point ES and NQ
Aren't those scalps extremely quickly done then?
I currently go for about 50-100 points per scalp
sure
but my scalps lately are 10-20 ticks for es, and 30 for nq
im in and out
dont care about trying to grab the whole move
as i dont know when the whole move will end
ahh
me waiting for the entire move, plays mind games
id rather have my trade bracket close me out automatically
Do you do that on the 15s or 1m? Where do you usually put SL?
this is kinda shitty day so far lol i did better pre market
i keep waking up earlier and earlier
SCAMMERS
because london sesh and 5:30am-7:00am est has cleaner set ups
Still waiting
What's your usual Risk/Reward on those quick scalps, Micky?
hold and pray
LOL
naw
most of the time, most recent swing h/l
gonna test that
here are my toothpick trades so far
3 lines, all shorts
the last line I made 2 short trades back to back because it was still bearish
my trades now will not show up on TV because I am on Webull now
Give me courage to hold
My distraction
Words of Wisdom from the Master of Chopsticks👀
King Kohli
150 points rip
I am holding
Yes sir….
I'm a holder too
@tribal sapphire message me okay
what for
least obvious scammer
happens
uhh
Definitely. Red on the day too. Still waiting for some opportunity
Absolute. Dog. Water.
Avoiding unnecessary trades is also a win.
u said it
Still waiting on sidelines.
i just feel like as soon as i walk away then we get strucutre lol
Top step was lagging when i was entering. So my entry was bit late.
Then don't. Sit there and watch netflix or something
ohh can we short or about to break out
We will have to wait and watch
Imma go trade lean hog
lol what?
you heard me
hello @sturdy wharf
that was the short
done for the day ! Banked some good profit, but also blew 2 combimes and 1 xfa 😄 so .... lets call it break even lol 😄 taking a breather... gl and see you tomorrow 
damn
Took beautiful short scalp
i hesitated cuz price was lame movement but then that was the play
lowkey sad i didnt take that short smh
ORL is also there. We will wait for the hourly close.
ORL and 1 Dev VWAP
Confluence
nice, 20 bucks lean hog long
what we thinkin BT
aaaand green again
Should have taken that wonderful setup
In a short again from 15m ORB
Hourly close done. Liquidity taken.
Lets see if we get another entry later in the day
staying out
Yeah not forcing trades
Passed my 5th 150k topstep
Hit max gain for the day on the second one
Can't trade no more. 9k today
Goodluck everyone
what time time do u use for ur trendlines
zoooey mama
did you short that too?
1 Min chart
Yes but got out too soon usual.
ah so did I I took profit shortly after that picture
should have brought stop to BE and rode it
I am learning to stay in the trade longer, that is why I am trading 2 microws
I have to write in my journal and explain to it why im stupid and should have held
same but i always get wicked out if i hold longer.. or get out early then it goes to full tp lmao
There are the 2 trades I entered but did not stay in long enough
I am a very quick scalper on big quantifies and now learning to hold the trades with very small quantities.
me too man me too
Hourly chart
I love LuxAlgo! You know why! 🐐
we're barcoding again
That will be beautiful since we have come all the way down might as well
divergence... scary
omg
the day i walked away
we hit another circuit breaker
insane
for props I mean
its okay.. the market has me shook to trade anything so i missed it
NQ down 5%
We can catch a bounce here
ahahahahahah
now its runnin up
it rejected so quick tho
Scalping is always quick entry and exit.
we arent done...
Indicators and technical is always there but mostly on the gut feeling.
my guts are messed up lately hahhaa
NQ back below 5
Hourly close
would be cool
How is the divergence looking?
headline isn't even so bad is it 😅
Dead at this point, still a higher low but hovering below the 50 for so long is always more bearish then a divergence.
what was the open?
honestly same
17971 I think is the 7
wow xau hit all time high
panic
Beautiful long scalp
Will take a break market is above 5% anyway
Circuit breaker getting closer
6.22%
not far off
😅🤲
Circuit breaker and open much higher and trap the shorts
I thought it was 971
holy shit
damn really close
omg
Lets get it
this is nuts
holy shit
Trap the shorts
imagine catching that dagger
was there more news or just volatile still
did it just bounced off 48.50?
yes it did
someone had orders there for sure
thats insane
damn, just 50
I don't like it
DAMN
hit
did i get the level wrong?
Done
trump said no halt?
I said i wasn't trading today, to much back and forth for me. Yet yesterday at the end of the day i got 2 more spy puts to go with the 2 i already was down in. They definitely putting today and I'm back in profit 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
no thats the level
Why is it still moving?
I dont know
this is my first time
oh it uses the s&p
instead of the NQ
so the S&P has to hit -7%
which makes no sense coming from the CME website
Does this mean we shouldn't trade if it hits the circuit breaker? For prop or live?
Oh I see. It pulls back over 100 ticks it's nuts.
Before you take any trades?
if there is market halt for 15 minutes and then we open up with a 200+ points gap, what you gonna do?
wow better to stick on prop, markets are too volatile and also trading software freezes
good point.
Turn pc off and stick to gaps in real-life for the day
went for my walk looks like it we got our bounce
aka a cliff
you jump I jump
not exactly. Idk if I'm allowed to spell it out
we all jumpo
jsut put ... i n it
In trading terms: Sweep liquidity and fill gaps
no sorry
Aka how to fuck your own economy
Proud of the EU for the first time when they showed strength against Trump, then this
i’m cheering for the EU rn
such wild times...
this is once in a lifetime type stuff
because?
The pieces are all aligned to shred the EU if this goes through
#1 heritage if you haven’t seen my name yet #2 this tariff play was delusional
Well, maybe it's good for you. Definitely not for me because I'm based in Germany😂
thats true
im not sure
btw, where are you based?