📈futures-stocks-chat

[surreal dust]

yeah I am always on the 150k accounts on topstep

and 250k accounts on Apex

[fair socket]

still backtesting NQ and futures and mine are 100ks

[surreal dust]

so I have room

I dont trade accounts below that as it doesn't work for my style I have found

[surreal dust]

oh so 100k has some room too

i think 100k account is better value actually on topstep

than the 150k

cause it doesn't really matter once you get it into the XFA

and you built up profit

[agile jasper]

most i traded was 15 contracts x5 accounts

so 75 cons

[agile jasper]

nah 50k is the best

[surreal dust]

i can't do 50k

[agile jasper]

now with no daily DD

i only have 50s

[surreal dust]

I am cursed on 50k accounts

[agile jasper]

no point for more now you can't withdraw more than 5k /account weekly

[surreal dust]

I passed two 50ks on evals and lost both 50ks on funded accunt same day 😂

[surreal dust]

that is true

if i blow any xfx's now I will restart with a 100k... still not sold on 50k 😅

[fair socket]

haha ill be happy with my 5 once i get another 2k profit

[surreal dust]

consistency is king

entries are queen 😄

[sturdy wharf]

Just unlocked 4 contracts on my scaling program. Spooky leverage.

[surreal dust]

so funny watching this 10 contract long ..... the P/L is wild 😂

[surreal dust]

oh God I am not ready for 4 haha

[sturdy wharf]

Just testing out MFFU and I passed my first account. I love this model because they dont give you access to 5 at 50k and 10 at 100k

[agile jasper]

you don't need 4!!!

you don't need 1 either

[sturdy wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

[agile jasper]

😂😂😂

[surreal dust]

lol this looks like encouraging death to me tbh 😂

[sturdy wharf]

encouraging death?

[surreal dust]

6k profit for 6 contracts is nowehre near enough buffer imo 😅

[surreal dust]

oversizing contracts based on that level of profits

I am not that brave at that level

[sturdy wharf]

I mean its the slowest company to unlock contracts out there.

[surreal dust]

I mean if you can master it... fair play to you !

[sturdy wharf]

Idk how apex does it but I dont trust them as far as I can sail away rapidly from them.

[surreal dust]

it is based on account size

[sturdy wharf]

Topstep gives you 10 at 3k on 100k accounts lol

[surreal dust]

also crazy 😄

[sturdy wharf]

how so?

[surreal dust]

like 150k/250k/300k determine max contract size

think it is 17/27/35 max 😂 if I remember correctly

crazy numbers

[surreal dust]

I agree on the whole there are better options

[fair socket]

ooo ive never seen this

i wouldnt be using 4 contracts even with over 4k profit though

ill stick to my 5 micros till 2025 then go upto 1 contract

[sturdy wharf]

Gold does not have the volume in futures today.

[fair socket]

haha just enjoy your nye and come back fresh Thursday in 2025 😛

[sturdy wharf]

you forget me my friend.

I have no chill.

fullporting nq incoming

[fair socket]

ahahah goodluck! I was looking at a trade this morning but paper traded instead

[sturdy wharf]

thanks, paper trading is 100% smarter.

[surreal dust]

https://tenor.com/view/solaris-gif-25254973

50% to 20k profit

so funny

😂 can't we just trade evals all the time

... and get paid 😏

[sturdy wharf]

What do you think sim funded is lol

[surreal dust]

a good time 😎

[sturdy wharf]

lol

damn right

[nocturne sigil]

Snowing up there yet?

[sturdy wharf]

Its been quite snowy up here we had a nice white christmas!

[normal bison]

Where do you live? No snow here in Illinois really this year

[fair socket]

Id love to have a white christmas 😮

didnt even get no snow in Vienna near Christmas either

[sturdy wharf]

Maine so a little further north lol

[normal bison]

I don't know how you do it lol

[sturdy wharf]

Vienna is gorgeous.

[normal bison]

5ft of snow is normal for you guys up there

[sturdy wharf]

the 5 feet is more canada, we have gotten a foot or two but its definitely been warmer up here as of recent.

[normal bison]

It was almost 60 here a few days ago, I'm a little over an hour south of Chicago

[sturdy wharf]

Thats wild.

And im logged out lol

Ichi PAC goated

[granite parrot]

Looks like y’all got snow coming next week

[granite parrot]

It was 68 where I’m at yesterday, I live in Oklahoma

[normal bison]

I surely hope not... I know we're going to get a cold snap and I work in hvac so I don't like lol

[granite parrot]

Damn you’ll be busy next week man

[fair socket]

niceee!

[normal bison]

I hope not lol.. 12-13 hour days aren't fun. We do ac installs along with furnace so sometimes I'm outside all day, I'm an installer.

[granite parrot]

Where do you find the time to trade? Lol

[sturdy wharf]

thank you thank you

[normal bison]

I give no fucks lol I worked with the bosses son yesterday and still made 4 winning options trades 🤣

[violet hearth]

Where are you from?

[surreal dust]

wow bye index again

candles are crazy 😄

[granite parrot]

😅 Nice! I feel ya tho, I’m ready for the day when I can just make a good living off trading

[sturdy wharf]

Maine

Maybe should have held. Oh well. Im up nicely on the day.

[nocturne sigil]

Thats nice

I wanna go deep sea crabbing/lobster etc

Into a perfect storm

[sturdy wharf]

Lobster futures?

[nocturne sigil]

👀

Just checked, nada

🦞

[surreal dust]

haha

[sturdy wharf]

damn

[nocturne sigil]

When's CME closing doors today?

🤔

[sturdy wharf]

I think its regular trading hours because new years eve isnt really a holiday

[nocturne sigil]

True

[sturdy wharf]

guessing no stream today?

[granite parrot]

Bonds close early tho I think

Tomorrow and next Thursday in honor of Jimmy Carter will be closed

[nocturne sigil]

https://discord.com/channels/641770286638694402/1178430832151638077

[agile jasper]

stream on

NQ looks heavy

[surreal dust]

market open wll be interesting

otherwise we are going to be in this new range now all day

chopping around 🤢

[agile jasper]

yup

[agile jasper]

will probably look for shorts at open if i'll trade

good push, have a nice new year!

@urban flint you trading today?

vwap slowly leaving the range

[surreal dust]

2300 here we come

[agile jasper]

yup

i am locked out but enjoying the show

[surreal dust]

on my last apex now

[agile jasper]

tempting to load up 20 apex and do the $200 a day for 6 payouts then take everything out

[nocturne sigil]

The promo is pulling you in

[agile jasper]

it is indeed

good recovery

[surreal dust]

https://tenor.com/view/temptation-is-very-hard-to-resist-father-julius-wonka-movie-so-tempting-hard-to-resist-gif-8233968579605244931

this chop haha

dont watching the day too 🙂 see you all next year 😄

[agile jasper]

cya next year

450 too strong

[wise vortex]

If I want to open an account in Apex Trading then will I have to create a separate Tradovate account first???

[agile jasper]

no

[nocturne sigil]

NYSE Market closes early in about an hour I think

POWER HOUR

[agile jasper]

yup

[nocturne sigil]

actually no

we still going

one more!

[spare bloom]

happy new year folks

[agile jasper]

Happy new year!

[topaz violet]

Last one

[queen sage]

Wow..this is great! congratulations!!

What position size you normally use for this kind of profit?

[topaz violet]

5 cons scalping

[nocturne sigil]

Not yet for you

[agile jasper]

yup, 4.5 more hours for me

[topaz violet]

Ok now it’s the last one 😮‍💨🤣

[topaz violet]

This was a beautiful P03 setup , accumulation after 2pm , manipulation low and bang , took from 1m ifvg , we were in a 1hr ifvg from December 20 , which why I took this long

[sand lodge]

What indicator or indicators do you use and do you only scalp trade on 1 min? The zones on your chart from the indicator or manually?

[topaz violet]

I draw my zones manually, i don’t use indicators , just 1 that only displays a candle from HTF

[nocturne sigil]

https://discord.com/channels/641770286638694402/1178430832151638077

[verbal yarrow]

This is my first watch on your live stream - nice job Micky! Appreciate the simple insight.

[nocturne sigil]

GIVE me some then

[nocturne sigil]

Your welcome
Appreciate your feedback

Recording posted

[verbal yarrow]

@nocturne sigil It's our natural tendency to overcomplicate things. This reminds me of the following: the question was asked to adults sitting in a room: how do you get an elephant into a refrigerator? The adults started pondering..can't come up with a solution. The same question was asked to pre-schoolers - they say take the elephant doll and just put it in the fridge.

[nocturne sigil]

Thats it

🐘

[sturdy wharf]

Happy newyear yall

[nocturne sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-fireworks-motivation-gif-16504032955894611537

[nocturne sigil]

Power Hour soon?

[agile jasper]

tomorrow

[granite parrot]

Happy New Years! My resolution is to finally become a profitable trader. I started back in 2021 and let’s just say I put myself in a pretty deep hole my first two years lol. Last year treated me good tho.

[topaz violet]

Market opens at 5pm today?

My tv shows it opens today so idk

[agile jasper]

yeah

[verbal yarrow]

Look back at Micky's video that was posted this morning. He removes all the technical clutter and focuses on fixed "rules", things that are not subjective. You will either take action based on the rule or not - can't be half pregnant..It's black and white - no gray areas---> if the S&O candles are green - go long; if they are red - go short.

Obviously, with each position, you have stop losses and profit taking in place. Rinse and repeat over ANY timeline.

[topaz violet]

Thanks

[maiden robin]

Where are the videos posted?

[maiden robin]

Why does it say I have no access?

[agile jasper]

because it's finished

[maiden robin]

How do i get access to the video to watch it

[agile jasper]

#1199356285813006367

[granite parrot]

Will do, thank you!

[surreal dust]

Happy New Year guys... hope you all had a great time

[nocturne sigil]

Markets open less than 4 hours from now
YOU ready?

🫵🏻

[gloomy quail]

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE LUX FAMILY!!!!!!

LET'S DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

[nocturne sigil]

[normal bison]

Anyone else see a head and shoulder on the 4hr SPY? Im looking at reg trading hours not extended on TV
@nocturne sigil

[granite parrot]

Great video this morning @nocturne sigil

[nocturne sigil]

cool, thanks for the feedback

[quiet turret]

Happy New Year everyone!

Let's make some big money in 2025.

[quiet turret]

Which video. Sorry new to LuxAlgo.

[agile jasper]

latest in #1199356285813006367

[quiet turret]

Thank you

[verbal yarrow]

I'm currently at Coinbase and their transcational fees are quite high. Binance does not support my state - any other suggestions?

[agile jasper]

ask in #🚀crypto-chat maybe

[urban flint]

What’s up with NQ?

[quiet turret]

Liquidity grab

1st trade of 2025 NQ took 8K profit.

[surreal dust]

broke my own rule first day 2025

8 contracts

all in 😅

[gloomy quail]

Sorry we don't entertain marketing scammers here. Please block this @nocturne sigil

[quiet turret]

Waiting to re enter long

scalped GC for 4 points

[surreal dust]

very nice

Silver moved beautifully too

[surreal dust]

holding out for 20k

then I am going to sleep

its nearly 2am for me

will probably just move my SL in 10k profit and then call it a night and hopefully 2025 gives me a nice start while I sleep 😄

[quiet turret]

Maybe good idea to take the profit and go to sleep.

I tried trading on TradingView but my stoploss order never worked. It was not triggering.

[surreal dust]

that really sucks

[reef lion]

Where are the videos

[quiet turret]

Here is the link

[fair socket]

Todays news

[surreal dust]

all locked out so all done for today

probably going to be chop again for the main session

😂

[nocturne sigil]

Unlock and re join the fun

[surreal dust]

bought another apex eval

can't resist 16

[fair socket]

Mickys streaming LIVE! https://discord.com/channels/641770286638694402/1178430832151638077

[surreal dust]

thank you Tesla

😂

now back up please 😄

[nocturne sigil]

Nice

[surreal dust]

Ty ty Tesla

now die today please for tomorrow 😄

alot of gaps on m7

so looks like they are getting filled soon

hopefully apex dont go bust before I cash out these 5 250k accounts 😅

[sturdy wharf]

Was down huge today wanted NQ to break back up since it was up 1% after dropping for a couple of days and buying the dip on NQ = money but apparently its not done LOL. Ended up getting a nice NQ short and am now about break even (50$ up) shutting it down for the day though. New year, new me, no overtrading.

[spare bloom]

Meanwhile i am chilling 😎 will be back next week for fun nfp week

[sturdy wharf]

13 indicators is impressive

I can barely handle 2

[quiet turret]

Had couple of good trades in the night and nice scalp today on NQ. Will wait for the next opportunity.

+20K on real account. Good way to start 2025.

RTY is holding good

Will wait for the entry

[agile jasper]

happy new year!

[nocturne sigil]

Look who woke up

[agile jasper]

just got back from hunting the Loch ness monster

[quiet turret]

Happy New Year!

[long crater]

im no far from there myself ha

[nocturne sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/girraffe-loch-ness-gif-5526931

[zinc ferry]

Its a new year and the BULLS are still getting thier #$$ handed to them!

[agile jasper]

you found it?

[long crater]

nope 😂 , i live not far away

[agile jasper]

same haha

[sturdy wharf]

brits

or is it britts

[lavish niche]

I have definitely seen the Loch Ness monster 👀

[long crater]

brilliant ha

[agile jasper]

none

scots 😉

NQ going for the lows

[sturdy wharf]

I thought those were fairy tail creatures

[agile jasper]

all real!!!

[sturdy wharf]

does this work?

[agile jasper]

yup

[sturdy wharf]

lets see the break

[agile jasper]

quite the pump from the lows there

[sturdy wharf]

yeah its trying to move back up

[agile jasper]

we have NY's vwap at 292, asia vwap at 321 and OR low at 320 so quite a resistance there

[sturdy wharf]

when go down

[agile jasper]

fake pump, short covering i would say

[sturdy wharf]

lets see

[agile jasper]

i am locked out so i'll be watching

[sturdy wharf]

no bullish strong momentum just yet

[queen sage]

Hi @agile jasper How do u see if something is fake or not, just for learning purpose want to understand..

[agile jasper]

not a financial advice, for me the daily bias is to the short side, we failed to make a new overnight high but we made a new low. selling is too strong

2 terror attacks last night and the stocks were going up

[queen sage]

great...this helps..thanks!

[zinc ferry]

Bulls getting beat again! BEARS are WAAAAYY to strong for them!

[agile jasper]

yup

[sturdy wharf]

bulls

[agile jasper]

NY's vwap here

[zinc ferry]

They just cant keep it going! LOL. Bulls are s weak! They could short squeeze if they had any b33lls

[long crater]

Dxy strong the day, didn’t expect to see it up that much with how precious metals are up

[fervent vector]

DXY is heavily EUR weighted... the gas news overnight painted a bearish picture

[long crater]

Ah that makes sense

[zinc ferry]

Look at that BEARS taking it to the BULLS...so easy!

BEARS are in control at the moment. Its theirs to lose/. Lets see if the BULLS are anywhere to be found!

There they go! Bears smacking BULLS! Its just too easy fopr them! BULLS have nothing in the tank! Time for some shorts!

BEARS are like a brick wall at ES 5960

[surreal dust]

doesn't mean they are all on haha 😂

[zinc ferry]

And there they go! BULLS playing dead!

[surreal dust]

Glad I locked out again... yesterday and todays US session is 🤢

better to trade in Asia and UK sessions 😄

[surreal dust]

are you a bear or a bull I can't decide 😂

[zinc ferry]

I think you are right! Unless you want to short the market because there is no real strength

[surreal dust]

its just constant chop atm.. the move is pre market or end of day right now

Hopefully it will get back to normal next week

[zinc ferry]

BULLs are like Boise St. Tried really hard but just dont have the stamina or strength to win.

[quiet turret]

I totally agree

[surreal dust]

I guess there are short term scalps looking at the LTF.... but those aren't scalps I would go far tbh... really not clean at all 😂

[zinc ferry]

They roll over at any bit of strnegth from the BEARS

[surreal dust]

If we lose 21200 at the end of this session I will probably look to short in Asia... we will see 😄

[zinc ferry]

Good idea

[surreal dust]

Sure tomorrow will be just as choppy as today tbh

[zinc ferry]

And looking like it will happen

Setting up to be another bloodbath if this continues

[surreal dust]

I do fancy another dump tomorrow tbh and we move start moving up again next week

[quiet turret]

Today made all the money trading upside only. Mostly overnight.

Not sure ehat to expect next. Just waching and waiting.

[surreal dust]

I got 2 up and 2 down.... I am neutral and fortunately locked out after the 4th trade 😄

I think it literally turned to chop after that so I was lucky

[quiet turret]

How do you get locked out?

[surreal dust]

Topstep you can lock out

[zinc ferry]

Im going to go yeall at my fund managers and tell them to get their S##T together. Cant take losses because they suck

[surreal dust]

APEX is either max 30% profit (so lockout) or 20K profit which I am not giving back so I have logged out of my platforms haha

[quiet turret]

Is that a broker?

[surreal dust]

haha please do

[agile jasper]

getting close to @sturdy wharf 's entry

[surreal dust]

Prop

[quiet turret]

ok I never trader in Prop.

[surreal dust]

m7 is getting butchered

[quiet turret]

traded

[surreal dust]

me too until Oct... but it is pretty good experience so far

[quiet turret]

How does it work?

[agile jasper]

idk last night's sell was aggressive, we need to take that wick

done boom

[surreal dust]

So you pay a fee Around $100 for a 150/250k account. You need to pass an evaluation phase where you need to make xxxxx amount of money over 1-3 days..... and then you given a funded account.... once you get that... every 5-8 days you can request a payout

of 3-5k

assuming you have made money

M7 is in a nose dive atm....... apple. ... tesla... Google especially

[quiet turret]

Intreating

[surreal dust]

oh and Microsoft too

[quiet turret]

Maybe I can let my bots trade these accounts

[surreal dust]

once you reach 30 days on (successful) on topstep and 6 payouts on Apex... you get unlimited profit

and are no longer capped at 3-5k payouts each time

[surreal dust]

honestly its worth it for the 100 usd you initially put in

[quiet turret]

Send me a link for both. I would like to do more reserch.

[surreal dust]

I will get told off for links haha... but

apex trader funding and topstepx

if you google

[zinc ferry]

Yep...another day and more value wiped out of the market!

[surreal dust]

or add me as a friend

[quiet turret]

ok

[surreal dust]

you have around 5 hours left

for the Apex sale

50-300k accounts are all on sale

for $16

which is a massive discount

worth just buying one even if you dont use it later

[sturdy wharf]

Apex kind of like a casino tho, they don't try and bump you up to live as much as there is no true path to a live account with them so they will always be paying out of pocket when you cash out. This means that they do a lot of things include mess around with rules to deny payouts. This has happened to many people before. Be warned, there is a reason they have such a bad reputation.

Intraday trailing drawdown + cheap accounts with huge leverage that nobody on our level should have honestly made me a worse trader.

[quiet turret]

Waiting on a sideline. No trade for me right now. May be overnight.

[surreal dust]

really needs to hold here

[quiet turret]

Your Bears are winning..

[surreal dust]

20k incoming 😏

would really love to see that tomorrow

and then long the crap out of it next week

20.5k area would be ok 😄

[fervent vector]

That was a midday liquidation break at 21167 on NQ.

[surreal dust]

can you squeeze more blood out of a stone

😅

[fervent vector]

We are 300 points below VWAP

[surreal dust]

and probably going lower looking at m7

[fervent vector]

looking to setup to the long side if we start seeing the charts firm up

[nocturne sigil]

17

[surreal dust]

bought another eval

just in case

😄

[spare bloom]

thats some insane selling

[surreal dust]

NOT TODAY MICKY

😂

tomorrow is ok

I am locked out

lol

[spare bloom]

was there news?

[surreal dust]

i haven't been following since US opened

i dont think so

not high impact anyway

unless you count Tesla on fire and dissappointing numbers 😄

[fervent vector]

programs run the most when there is liquidity from the other side

so when a big stop gets hit midday there wont be volume to the opposite side until 3ish or so

[spare bloom]

nvda is green tho

[surreal dust]

Got to be some panic selling now surely too

[surreal dust]

for now

lol

not too far away from red 😄

[agile jasper]

bloodbath

[surreal dust]

well 1% still pretty strong on nvidia... but it looks like it might following soon

end of day close is going to be fun

[spare bloom]

wow sub 21k

tempted to trade tbh

would long on paper

[urban flint]

17k

[spare bloom]

i longed 21k 😂

[nocturne sigil]

Hahahahaha

[urban flint]

Perfect timing then.

[spare bloom]

instant 60 points

[urban flint]

I did my trades earlier

[spare bloom]

niiiice

k that was fun trade quick in and out

[surreal dust]

they wont give me

another Eval

😂

come on man

[urban flint]

Good sign!

[surreal dust]

hahaaha I love how you can't resist a setup 😄

straight in and out like a boss 😄

[urban flint]

That sure was a flush 🙂

[fervent vector]

big wick incoming \

[spare bloom]

it was obvious it was gunning for 21k today

[surreal dust]

i want to trade a new eval :/

I have passed 5 - 250k accounts on Apex this week 😏

[spare bloom]

you should be a millionare then

[surreal dust]

shame I can't actually keep any of the money

[surreal dust]

that is what I think too

😂

Apex dont agree

[spare bloom]

what do you do with those then

[surreal dust]

well they do.... on paper 😏

[surreal dust]

it is to get funded accounts

so now they are passed I can start collecting money on them

from tomorrow

[spare bloom]

are you not funded yet?

[surreal dust]

those are all new

[spare bloom]

ok

[surreal dust]

funded i locked out premarket in Asia / London

[spare bloom]

so you got like 10 accs now ?

[surreal dust]

I was up to 2am trading Asia session with @quiet turret last night😅

[surreal dust]

5 on Topstep

8 on Apex

[spare bloom]

you making 20k a day with those?

[surreal dust]

I haven't had them long enough to do that

I can only do that on the two Topstep XFX's

only one of my Apex account is unlocked for max profit

need to unlock the rest (6 payouts)

[spare bloom]

well would be interesting if they actually pay that much

[surreal dust]

I took 15k last month just off Apex

[spare bloom]

15k is alright but do they pay 200k?

[surreal dust]

topstep I am building it up but will request 10k next week i hope

[surreal dust]

ahh I see what you are thinking

I will let you know

😂

[spare bloom]

cuz someone making that much will be stealing all their money

[surreal dust]

well I believe the idea is they switch you live accounts

once you start doing that

so you are forced to close all the funded accounts

and only have 1 at that stage

I believe all the props will do that to you if you are lucky enough to keep being consistent

I know on Topstep I will lose all 5 accounts to be replaced with 1 account if i ever get a live account

[spare bloom]

same value tho ?

[surreal dust]

I guess in theory... no

because 1 can't compete with 5

[spare bloom]

these people are not rich they give you demo money afterall

[surreal dust]

live account is more in their interest

[spare bloom]

no way they give you reall 1 million usd to play with

[surreal dust]

as you actually make them real money too

funded accounts they just pay out of pocket

[spare bloom]

makes sense but how would the split be

[surreal dust]

I mean the top traders at topstep are using real funds of 500k+

[spare bloom]

you will be earning less than funded

[quiet turret]

Quick short scalped for 500

[surreal dust]

100% but there are some other perks but... yes once you are too profitable you will be sent to live

[surreal dust]

90/10 or 80/20

in favour of trader

depending which prop

[spare bloom]

90% is really good

[surreal dust]

It is very attractive

and it isn't your money

that is what drew me into this space

I thought it was all BS... but my trader friend kept pestering me about so in Oct I started trying it out

[agile jasper]

10k per account or in total?

[surreal dust]

there are so really pandanic rules which you would probably find fustrating since you are used to using your own funds..... but honestly once you understand them it is not hard to stay without the guildlines

[quiet turret]

How much money you recevied from them so far?

[surreal dust]

10k total over 2 accounts (max 5k each account) - after 30 days successful trading you can withdraw the whole balance (topstep) - Apex is 6 payouts which is 8 days x 6

[agile jasper]

they pay out and they're well worth it compared to risking your own capital

[surreal dust]

around 45kish since October

[quiet turret]

Nnice

[agile jasper]

ok i thought you had legacy accounts. get 5 XFA's and max payouts on each a week

[surreal dust]

no I am new to topstep

I was only using Apex

but Apex always gets bad mouthed so decided to spread out my risk

[agile jasper]

tempted to jump on apex train but probably not going to do it for this sale event

[surreal dust]

I missed the window of that 😦 I joined after the rules changed

[agile jasper]

it's okay, 5k x5 accounts = 25k a week potentially so the new rule doesn't affect

that's 100k a month - their cut = 90k your money if you max them

[surreal dust]

that is my plan... although I am only trading 2 accounts to start with.. will ramp it up later

[surreal dust]

I mean that would beyond my dreams if it is possible

[agile jasper]

achievable

[surreal dust]

Realistically for me my goal has just been 2-3 payouts a month but I am on a good run atm

[surreal dust]

hope so ... life changing money... just taking it slowly trying to keep discipline

But I see alot of people are managing so well

especially in this group

so I am really encouraged that it might be possible one day

[agile jasper]

everyone can do it

[surreal dust]

until I do it

I wont believe it

😂

[surreal dust]

you have a better chance because you seem to have a really good system and you are experienced with copy trading

[agile jasper]

copy trading or single account is the same

you still manage 1 account (the main account

[surreal dust]

I am trying to ease myself into copy trading... cause I do have bad days like everyone and losing like 2-3k across 5 or 10 accounts would make me feel sick

[agile jasper]

been there done that

[surreal dust]

I do have one of those days within every 14 days

I am still doing it

😅

that is why I like the locked on topstep as I have limited the loss and trade number... as I only get to that 3k number if I am chasing losses

so that feature really helps me

create better discipline

[spare bloom]

gc is flying

[surreal dust]

really bounced this week

that is the other crap thing about props

no swing trades

I think you can negotiate with topstep tho if you have a live account

to be able to swing

[spare bloom]

good thing i just got my personal acc and i can do w/e i want with it

it is my money

[agile jasper]

if you are live and you show them consistency they are open to let you swing

but realistically you lose 50 minutes of trading if you close at market close and reopen when the markets open

[surreal dust]

yeah 100% man.... one of my goals

[surreal dust]

true but you lose the safety of the entry and the ability to compound the trade

[agile jasper]

do better and get moved to live or open your own live account 😂

[zinc ferry]

what a crappy market....yet again!

Safe bet seems to be shorting the market every day

[surreal dust]

tough taskmaster 🫠

[surreal dust]

you better get on those fund managers haha

[zinc ferry]

you know it!

[agile jasper]

so we're holding 21k

[surreal dust]

famous last words

https://tenor.com/view/o-captain-captain-my-captain-o-captain-my-captain-dead-poets-dead-poets-society-gif-17610151

[surreal dust]

so pretty

at least have have a 5 min range coming 😄

[nocturne sigil]

Break down from this level?

👀

[surreal dust]

its right on the edge

😅

[nocturne sigil]

push it over

nudge it a little

[surreal dust]

I will with all my paper

you need a whale like @spare bloom

[nocturne sigil]

LOLLL

[surreal dust]

does that class as insider trading 😄

[spare bloom]

it is at the edge

[surreal dust]

God she really is flirting with this

[spare bloom]

i could long with tight sl

niiice

[surreal dust]

nice range to long

until it breaks 😄

[spare bloom]

and out just like that

instant 40 points

[surreal dust]

no Cartia

did you not read the msgs :/

we need you to tank it

not pump it

😂

we got counter traded @nocturne sigil surely that is ban worthy

[spare bloom]

but qaction is not longing

[surreal dust]

haha we better call in reinforcements and take this bull down @urban flint

[spare bloom]

ok i will dump it

[surreal dust]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-rubbing-hands-smile-happy-plan-mischief-gif-11789692

[spare bloom]

21k is a strong level tho

psychologically

[surreal dust]

it is right now

[nocturne sigil]

17?

[surreal dust]

getting really challenged atm tho

[spare bloom]

when you go long

[surreal dust]

really looks like it wants to go down

[agile jasper]

snap 21k lets go

[spare bloom]

i dumped it 50 points that good enough

[surreal dust]

you didn't say WHEN

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-walk-away-not-happy-michael-scott-gif-11889797

[spare bloom]

it was a good reaction from those highs

building a ressitence atm

it bounced off same level like 5 times now

could be just consolidating for the next big move up

lets see if we break higher now

[surreal dust]

probably will just range and take everyone's xmas money 😄

going to chill out and wait for Asia / UK 🙂 set an alert in case it breaks up or down then will be more interested

[spare bloom]

tomorrow is open ?

[quiet turret]

Yes

[spare bloom]

so many bank holidays

[agile jasper]

40 points ATR on a 3 minutes NQ

[surreal dust]

looks weak to me can't help it

😄

maybe down to 901 and a bounce

shame you can't hedge on props

oh here we go

[agile jasper]

are we extending the range?

[surreal dust]

looks like it

but I am done watching today... keep fresh for UK session...

see you guy s:)

[plain jetty]

we closing this gap to end the session?

[agile jasper]

quite a strong push

[quiet turret]

All ES NQ YM at 50 yard line. (Fib 50)

Do or Die

YM stronger out if 3

GC closing strong

SI as well

[zinc ferry]

And the BULLS come limping in ot the close...licking their wounds. from the trashing the BEARs gave them today....again!

[surreal dust]

lock me out baby

😅

[quiet turret]

Good evening

[surreal dust]

Evening

or morning now again for me

😄

come on sexy gimme my max 😄

a nice wick so I can go to bed would be fantastic

[quiet turret]

Are you in UK?

[surreal dust]

Yeah

What about you?

[quiet turret]

Chicago

[surreal dust]

Oh nice

[quiet turret]

While I was taking a evenng nap. My trading bot put me in NQ long.

[surreal dust]

lol my stupid copy trade didn't execute on apex... so only got 1 account that fired on this :/

[surreal dust]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-more-michael-scott-the-office-steve-carell-gif-5407074

[quiet turret]

Beautiful

do you alway strade 3 Min chart?

[surreal dust]

self made or bought ?

[quiet turret]

self made

[surreal dust]

no only when I am tracking weakness

and switching between LTF

[quiet turret]

ok

[surreal dust]

normally I am on 15m

[quiet turret]

I like 12 Min

[surreal dust]

ohh nice.. I am not so smart

12min? That is unusual?

or uncommon

[quiet turret]

most people enter exit at 5 or 15.

12 x 5 = 60

[surreal dust]

interesting thinking

very interesting!

[quiet turret]

I have traded at 3 min also in the past

[surreal dust]

Normally I prefer 15 and 5m as you pointed out

but yes do drop to 3 and 1 sometimes to have a look

I can't believe my apex's accounts didn't copy trade..... 😡

[quiet turret]

How do you copy trade?

[surreal dust]

Topsteps did copy trade.. tho so will take that I guess

[surreal dust]

using the tradovate or topstep platform

just executives across all accounts

or is meant to 😅

[quiet turret]

I use Tradovate as my broker

[surreal dust]

first time trying it on tradvoate tho... so maybe I messed up

Yeah its in the settings menu there.. you can assign groups

[quiet turret]

I have 2 accounts with them but not sure how to copy trade.

I will check it out

[surreal dust]

click on your account

at the top

and it will drop a menu down

and look for "manage groups"

[quiet turret]

I don't have that option.

Are you on the web platform?

[surreal dust]

Yeah I am

dont have the desktop installed so can't help with that i am afraid

[quiet turret]

I am using web platform also.

[surreal dust]

oh

umm

[quiet turret]

I dont see the group option maybe because one account is on my name anotherone on my LLC.

[surreal dust]

ahhhh

[quiet turret]

I will check with them

[surreal dust]

that might be why but yeah .. check

must be a way

no good asking me as mine didn't execute this time lol

[normal bison]

Where do you live around Chicago? I live a little over an hour south of Chicago

[quiet turret]

I am close to Aurora

Naperville area

Normally 7pm futures make a move. Closed my NQ longs for now.

[surreal dust]

I am being greedy want my max profit level on Apex lol

I can almost touch it

https://tenor.com/view/im-feeling-good-reaching-tries-very-hard-baby-yoda-the-mandalorian-gif-15744839

[quiet turret]

You are good at trailing the profits.

[surreal dust]

Trying to work on it and maxmise when I can

running out of steam... mopved SL closer to vwap.... off to bed

[pseudo crane]

Thx algo

[copper spindle]

whats the best vwap lux algo indicator

[native drum]

Have a look at the Lux library for options: https://www.luxalgo.com/library/

The Sessions indicator also includes an option for VWAP within the session range, if that will be of use to you.

[fair socket]

todays news

[north zinc]

Hello everyone, for futures, Is there any prop firm with no consistency Rule and profit split of 80:20 or 90:10. In Apex and TopStep there is consistency Rule and profit payout was very low.

[fair socket]

I personally use TopStep for my futures and i don't find it that bad compared to some other prop firms

[agile jasper]

did you reach $10k per payout cycle and because they have the $5k limit in place topstep wasn't for you?

[surreal dust]

I have made it guys

JC wants to be my friend

😎

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-birdman-adult-swim-bear-clapping-clap-gif-5573877

[surreal dust]

vwap is a trator

[fair socket]

im in a buy

id like to see 280-341

[surreal dust]

yup i flipped since vwap betrayed me

on the naughty list for next Xmas 😄

[fair socket]

hahaha!

told myself i wouldnt trade till next week but here we are

whats your target?

[surreal dust]

haha

260 / 269 / 288

watching these

[surreal dust]

its when the US market opens that everyone should stop trading haha

hope it stops chopping next week

I am out in 2 hours anyway so will miss the open and most of the trading day... for better or worse 🙂

probably my last trade of the day now

[spare bloom]

i am just chilling today.you guys have fun

[fair socket]

yeah this will be my only trade till next week

[surreal dust]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-news-team-will-ferrel-i-dont-believe-you-disagree-gif-16881689

[spare bloom]

well i like to sneak in trades i guess when nobody is watching quick in and out

[dapper pelican]

How’s it going today guys?

[surreal dust]

https://tenor.com/view/my-child-what-is-troubling-you-what-is-troubling-you-my-child-gif-13665778

[surreal dust]

good ... you ?

[fair socket]

Not bad, nearly 1% up on my NQ then may take profits and leave the day to be

[dapper pelican]

Chilled over here, been on my laptop since so I couldn’t text here

How’s trading going today?

[dapper pelican]

Ah nice 😅

[surreal dust]

Good

trying to escape both US opens and chops me up 😅

I bet today will be amazing now I have said that 🙂

i dont believe all those hedge funds are back at work today tho 🙂

[dapper pelican]

Well wild will just have to see how it goes today lol

[surreal dust]

How is it going for you?

[dapper pelican]

I’ve got quite a few open trades that I’m closely watching

For now everything looks good 👍

[fair socket]

haha i usually only have 1 trade open at a time, usually trade maybe once or twice max a day

[surreal dust]

Stress free life 😄

[dapper pelican]

You a day trader?

[dapper pelican]

It’s a bit different when you’ve got a job

[surreal dust]

propbably have better discipline tho as entries need to be good as reduced time

[fair socket]

Yeah been full time since 2022 pretty much

[dapper pelican]

Ah nice, maybe you could show me some of your setups 🥲

[fair socket]

i primarily only trade AJ fx only recently within the last 1-2 months got into futures

[dapper pelican]

Amazing can I add you up pls bro

I’ll need some insights

[fair socket]

You got all the insight here at Lux. Simply posting your setups in here for example will get you feedback of other members. I don't share my set ups as I wouldn't want people to follow my trades blindly, as no two traders are the same.

[dapper pelican]

I dog bro but I’m no amateur

[surreal dust]

come on break it

tired of flipping today if we dont break this I am done 😄

[fair socket]

hahah im out for small loss

[surreal dust]

gimme dopen

[fair socket]

ah well come back next week

im tempted to do a sell if it breaks

[surreal dust]

yeah my thoughts

I am a short alrady but need to see this lose this level or I am out and really done for the day ... I promise lol

[zenith narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-sleep-dog-dawg-eeper-gif-5083970977419902566

[surreal dust]

i refuse to be chopped anymore

😭

meh

[zenith narwhal]

I'm passing on today. Don't see anything good.

🫡 tomorrow another day

[agile jasper]

NY didn't even open relax

[zenith narwhal]

Look. U got me on NQ, but I ain't touching NQ in NY session. Got clapped twice.

Or maybe I should just move to MNQ

I like my rollercoasters how i like my coffee. Not spiked with cocaine.

[agile jasper]

MNQ during NY doesn't sound bad at all

[zenith narwhal]

I also discovered today that Tradovate and Ninjatrader logins are interchangeable. 💀 Same company.

[fair socket]

Mickys streaming LIVE! https://discord.com/channels/641770286638694402/1178430832151638077

[sturdy wharf]

itty bitty baby scalp

12.5 points

[agile jasper]

come on NQ don't dump on me before NY opens

i want to join the ride

[sturdy wharf]

9:00 soft open coming up @agile jasper

[agile jasper]

yup, but i don't like it

[sturdy wharf]

big move probably after ISM

[agile jasper]

should be a big move yes

we're below vwap

[agile jasper]

big push before the open

[sturdy wharf]

A little sketchy due to it having a long bearish kumo and weak bullish kumo but it rejected lower prices pretty nicely so I longed until it hit that area of previous rejection. A nice 21 tick 3 contract win.

could probably short here but I wont because its against my rules.

[spare bloom]

Nice pump

[agile jasper]

nice dump

done

[spare bloom]

you made 10k?

[agile jasper]

good selling there

[spare bloom]

It dropped 100 points so fast

[agile jasper]

about 7.5

i'll take that

[spare bloom]

Nice man

[crimson flower]

Does anyone know about Brend oil, whether it is below 75.40?

[spare bloom]

I got a quick long scalp

good bounce

Exitied at 360

[agile jasper]

numbers in 4 minutes

@urban flint is MIA, still celebrating new year or hangover?

[spare bloom]

market got nice volatility today

[agile jasper]

yup

[spare bloom]

i did two more scalps a long and a short from 378

[agile jasper]

good

now 1 minute for the news so sit on your hands

[spare bloom]

there is news?

[agile jasper]

PMI

red folder

[spare bloom]

Ism

[agile jasper]

CL had a big pump

[spare bloom]

Gold dumped

[agile jasper]

yup

been looking at natgas for a few weeks now

every day it's +-5%

big mover

big pump NQ

[spare bloom]

Good sell

420 to 390

[agile jasper]

@sturdy wharf you might need to do some explanations here. @cedar flicker @mossy wharf

[mossy wharf]

wait nooo

bro

that's edited

[spare bloom]

I think thats me done for the day

[agile jasper]

does not look edited to me

[mossy wharf]

nahhh bro, fully edited

[agile jasper]

hmmm i'll monitor the situation closely

pullback to buy?

[spare bloom]

And it dumps again

[agile jasper]

vwap at 310

[spare bloom]

Idk might do deep pullback

High volatility

Spread is bit high

[agile jasper]

40 points ATR on 3 minutes

vwap here at 314

[sturdy wharf]

it wasnt me

if I had shorted from where I wasnt supposed to LOL

[agile jasper]

that's your name there!

[spare bloom]

Price is teleporting

[sturdy wharf]

These bots keep getting more and more advanced

[agile jasper]

#📈futures-stocks-chat message

[sturdy wharf]

lol

[agile jasper]

NQ is melting, took the NY lows

[sturdy wharf]

flush

[agile jasper]

i was in sells from 363 haha again I wish i held

[spare bloom]

dude i took few more scalps i am liking this volatility alot sinceit goes both up and down

It is boring if onesided but this goes both ways

[spare bloom]

great for scalping

Nice pump

[agile jasper]

new highs?

[spare bloom]

This is fun

Another short 380

it got rejected

Maybe if it breaks 389

Ima lock myself out now

[agile jasper]

turn it off

[spare bloom]

Yeah just did i am gonna go make dinner

Morning session is almost over

[remote relic]

here we go! NQ at the trend resistance

[urban flint]

Good morning

One tick at a time

[agile jasper]

looks like a very good morning 😂

[urban flint]

The 4H close above some ma and break of trend lines made me take 2 contracts 🙂

Took profit

[surreal dust]

Apex still paying out for the doubters 😅

[agile jasper]

[nocturne sigil]

looks like you whited out 3-4 digits

[surreal dust]

can't let the wife see or she will spend it 😓

[nocturne sigil]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

https://tenor.com/view/new-bag-shea-whitney-surprised-excited-omg-gif-17673630

[urban flint]

I’m back long

[agile jasper]

NQ had to rally today. we had 5 red days in a row

[urban flint]

For sure

[surreal dust]

cheeky long

[nocturne sigil]

If we get another LH, is the party over?

🤷🏻‍♂️

[surreal dust]

depends which party you are going to 😄

[urban flint]

I’m done. Good start to the year 4500 yesterday

Later

[surreal dust]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-cool-stay-away-confident-feeling-it-gif-15762106

[agile jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/dogggotoken-dogggo-dogggo-cook-cook-money-gif-25325544

[sturdy wharf]

8600$ live must be living your best life

[agile jasper]

wait until i share mine 😂

[nocturne sigil]

👀

[sturdy wharf]

oh goodness what unholy amount of money did you make

[agile jasper]

double @urban flint's

[sturdy wharf]

God Damn

[granite parrot]

Wrapped up another green day for my portfolio ✅

Watching all these people on stocktwats fight the trend on SPY today has been amusing.

[glossy sonnet]

@grand galleon

[glossy tree]

u guys think market will drop further then continue up?

[jaunty dragon]

People still use that site?

[granite parrot]

Honestly I see gold coming down more this year.

[granite parrot]

Amazingly yes lol. It never fails to give you a good laugh

[urban flint]

You know I have my loosing day.

Note that I said day and not days lol

[urban flint]

I have been thinking for a long time to change the settings in TV from money to just percent or ticks. Just never taken the step, probably with your number I would.

[agile jasper]

nah i like to see the dollar amount

less maths to make while I am already doing alot when trading

[nocturne sigil]

having $ amounts play tricks in your head, fear/greed
having ticks, points makes me look at the bigger picture, key levels to aim for

thats just me

[quiet turret]

I like to look at points also. Points per day.

[gloomy quail]

I agree with you, Mickey

[quiet turret]

Anyone going long before close for quick scalp?

[urban flint]

The master 👀

[nocturne sigil]

not me

its that guy over there

👈🏻

👉🏻

[agile jasper]

nope

[urban flint]

I may try it now that you said you like it!

[nocturne sigil]

LOL

[gloomy quail]

I can smell greed there

[quiet turret]

Have a nice weekend everyone.

[gloomy quail]

You too man

[zinc ferry]

Bulls playing dead in to the close again?

[agile jasper]

yup

[zinc ferry]

yepp BULLS playing dead again!

BEARS taking it to the BULLS yet again!!!! ANother day...same outcome! BULLS have no muscle!

BULLS cant even more the needle! Funny to watch!

BULLS ONLY managed to move 9m ES point sin the last 10 minutes! LOL

[grand galleon]

Good job 👏

[urban flint]

Next week is interesting. Kind of looks like NQ could have turned today, but it feels like continuation down with some selling pressure coming into close.

[agile jasper]

need to see what 500 level brings us

[urban flint]

Exactly

[nocturne sigil]

It will bring health and good fortune 🔮

[copper tiger]

Any trades today fellas?

[wary solstice]

Went long on TQQQ and NVDA today. 💰

[copper tiger]

Ayyyyu that’s what’s up DMAX

[copper tiger]

Did you hit?

[sturdy wharf]

Anyone else backtesting?

[urban flint]

I’m just scanning the market, but yea, I did that earlier. Oil caught my eye. Looks very bullish

[agile jasper]

nope

[sturdy wharf]

Natural Gas looks more exciting to me.

[tribal sapphire]

Anybody have a settings screenshot for PAC Backtest i am just looking to optimize a strategy.

[agile jasper]

have a look at #📌pinned-strats-indicators and #1128499789437354106

[tribal sapphire]

Thanks

I will be looking

[gilded hinge]

Aesthetic color settings.

[nocturne sigil]

Gray’s and white’s

[urban flint]

It will be an interesting week. I’m excited to see everyone coming out hot into the new year start 🙂

[granite parrot]

Ready to keep my green streak going into the New Year tomorrow 👍🏼

[copper tiger]

Me having a dirty mind laughed too hard at that

Excited for what this week will bring us

[fair socket]

Todays news

[surreal dust]

GG nearly lockout time

[surreal dust]

And Apex done too ... closed ..nice start to the week!

[untold flint]

ur a gun

[surreal dust]

Gun is empty currently haha

Hope we all have a good week!

[untold flint]

refill and get more $ ha

[surreal dust]

Going for breakfast... will have a look again during US... got one more eval not passed on Apex still

this move is pretty extended...

[untold flint]

enjoy ur lobster breaky

[surreal dust]

Fancy 690ish tho and maybe a little pullback

[zenith narwhal]

Lmk if u maxed out. Got a couple IDs left.

[agile jasper]

alot of people in here do

idk why is NQ pumping but i took a few points there

[agile jasper]

another one passed?

for me Topstep is the best one out there

[surreal dust]

xfa following my Jan plan of taking profit ... will ramp it up next month

only one eval left and that is for Apex

I prefer topstep too... but FTMO is also meant to be good from what I hear

but we hit my 690 wall so will be interesting to see if we push through

[agile jasper]

topstep

[spare bloom]

i shorted 690

[agile jasper]

end of story for me 😂

[surreal dust]

yes I was thinking of switching short

nice level

[reef sluice]

great first trading day of the year for me

[spare bloom]

it is overall bullish but we havent had a single pullback and this seemed like a good level

[agile jasper]

i'll just do this while i'm in this chat so we don't do anything silly ok?

[reef sluice]

I just took my last trade of the day too

[surreal dust]

do it

[agile jasper]

might aswell lockout for the full day, i met the 5 days for payouts

[surreal dust]

100% no point risking them

time to get paid 😄

[spare bloom]

big news week overall and next week trump week

[surreal dust]

Lets go Jan 🥳

[agile jasper]

short week btw

[agile jasper]

just got paid last week

[surreal dust]

holiday this week?

[spare bloom]

we either moon and dump or dump then moon

[surreal dust]

they should pay us every half week 😄

[agile jasper]

CME early close on the 9th

[spare bloom]

i can pay myself everyday