📈futures-stocks-chat

[jaunty dragon]

Im in the short also

[nocturne sigil]

got me another 30 short

ok thats it

shut it down micky

[spare bloom]

nice pa today

i dont see much chop

now i am waiting

lets see if we break yday lows

[agile jasper]

dont see why not

NQ wants yesterday's lows

heavy selling

[nocturne sigil]

What is wants is 17
before 16
after 18

[spare bloom]

we bounced

30 points bounce from yday lows

good pa

not boring 5-10 points chop

atleast you can scalp both ways with this

[agile jasper]

big bounce

[spare bloom]

retesting

[agile jasper]

volume leaving the range now

[agile jasper]

aka vwap

[spare bloom]

we are way below vwap

[agile jasper]

we are, but i was referring to NY's vwap

[spare bloom]

anyways this zone is kinda big

like 150 points

needs to go more than 150 points to break it

[agile jasper]

yesterday's low now

[spare bloom]

new lows

[agile jasper]

yep

220 next stop

[spare bloom]

i already longed

235

[agile jasper]

or we gonna chop and play here until the next break

[spare bloom]

lets goo

[agile jasper]

we going back to vwap?

NY's vwap at 288

[spare bloom]

could be

we are way overextended

[jaunty dragon]

I would expect a reveral today, no?

[spare bloom]

tbh

[jaunty dragon]

Broke the overnight highs

[spare bloom]

20 points

ok ima BE here

not bad day so far

way better than yday

[agile jasper]

early action

[spare bloom]

scalping around is better than just crying no entry for a long time

yday market either dumped or pumped hard

no room to scalp

[agile jasper]

about to test the lows

[spare bloom]

yeah it is fine

this zone is huge like i said

we are swimming inside it

we need 100+ points to break it

[agile jasper]

here it is

[spare bloom]

another bounce?

mm

nice

scalping in this zone is fun

[agile jasper]

good bounce

[spare bloom]

longed 227

gonna get 10 points and see

[agile jasper]

if we go above 45 we might test 275's NY's vwap

[spare bloom]

we need 40ish points to break upside of this zone

so we are stuck here for now

clean red candle in 1 hour

2 more minutes

lets see if we get any wicks

[nocturne sigil]

no longs yet?

[spare bloom]

it is still looking bearish

only saving grace we are in a demand

could go up anytime

[nocturne sigil]

I did grab another 30

[jaunty dragon]

Im just waiting for a bullish FVG now

[spare bloom]

we almost touched the middle of the zone now

10 more points

we wicked very close to it xD

lets go

[nocturne sigil]

choppy now

(when is it not choppy on nq?)

[agile jasper]

my TP was at 206 and the lows was 206.25

[spare bloom]

and that how I catch bottoms

i see a reaction like this i just take it

🔥

we cooking today

[agile jasper]

3 bar reversal on the 3 minutes

ES popped

[jaunty dragon]

I am in long now

[spare bloom]

we prolly had more action today than last two weeks combined

i like it like this than boring train one side

ok thats 45 points

[agile jasper]

NY's vwap here

[spare bloom]

we testing upper edge of the zone now

strong momentum

[agile jasper]

buyers back in

look at ES's reversal

[spare bloom]

HOOOOLY

ok thats 70 points

[agile jasper]

next stop 300s

[spare bloom]

can i get 100

[jaunty dragon]

FVG on 5 minute

[spare bloom]

i will leave here

i think it is pushed too fast

70 is 70

i am done for the day

[nocturne sigil]

sucker went long about 250 ticks already

[spare bloom]

50% retracement

gonna watch out now

they might short here

[agile jasper]

what a push

vwap 310

[jaunty dragon]

About to hit a bear FVG

im hopping out my long for now

[spare bloom]

we are currently outside the zone

it can comeback to retst then go up

[frank locust]

share an example on a chart? thx!

[spare bloom]

clean reactions if you look closely

the top we rejected the middle many times then broke down

[agile jasper]

that's the vwap push

[spare bloom]

printing V soon

[agile jasper]

we're back inside the 3 mins opening range

[spare bloom]

if it rejects the upper zone it will sell again

[frank locust]

entry would be taking out high of bullish bar? thx just really interested in how you execute, you are spot on quite a bit....

or do you look to get in on the wick...which is very difficult for me

[spare bloom]

13 points for the retest

if i see a reaction from my zones i enter

there is a reason why it reacted so i take it

[agile jasper]

strong momentum

[spare bloom]

ok retested now

pushed through

[urban flint]

morning

[jaunty dragon]

An insane one at that

[urban flint]

🙂

[spare bloom]

best trading day in a long time

[urban flint]

Yes for sure

[spare bloom]

it takes experience to draw these zones thats the thing that takes the most work

then it is just methodical executions

i have draw enough zones to cover a whole year i just fish for reactions now

i only draw new zones if we see new numbers

[jaunty dragon]

Back into the NQ long

[agile jasper]

NQ at the vwap here

[jaunty dragon]

Damn ate my SL

[spare bloom]

and you could guess wht we dumped

cuz we rejected the upper zone xD

back to lower zone now

[agile jasper]

closing the shop now, overtraded today

[spare bloom]

great fun

i am sticking to only morning sessions

you guys take care

[jaunty dragon]

Back in

[agile jasper]

vwap at 307.50 lets see if we flip it again

great entry BTW

[jaunty dragon]

ty, I longed at that 5 minute fvg

[agile jasper]

oh just noticed this is US100 cash, vwap won't be there for you. let me check on US100

[jaunty dragon]

Yah, my prop firm only does NAS100

[agile jasper]

your vwap is at 20169.50

[agile jasper]

are you on forex prop firm?

[jaunty dragon]

5%ers, yes

[agile jasper]

switch to futures prop firm!

[jaunty dragon]

Who do you reccomend?

[agile jasper]

i am with topstep

[jaunty dragon]

I'll see if they do US

[agile jasper]

they do in the US

they're chicago based

[reef sluice]

I'm with topstep in the US

been great so far

[agile jasper]

no metatrader drama

[jaunty dragon]

What platform does topstep use for US clients?

[agile jasper]

fully regulated and prices coming from the CME so you can't get rug pulled

[jaunty dragon]

I need a prop firm that uses CME...

[agile jasper]

all futures prop firms have their prices from CME (might not be the same for the new ones that are being born every day)

[jaunty dragon]

ty, I would love to get on Ninja

[agile jasper]

but the reputable ones use CME

one thing for topstep however

the mini to micro conversion is working properly for topstepx (their own platform) and it's web based

normally, 10 micros = 1 mini

their system is legacy and for ninja tradovate and quantower the conversion is 1-1 instead

on a 50k account your max size is 5 lots. topstepx you can have 50 micros (or 5 minis), on ninja you can have 5 micros (or 5 minis)

from what i heard they're upgrading their backend to have the correct conversion for legacy platforms but no ETA

their own platform (topstepx) is solid and it didn't disappoint me so far

[spare bloom]

i like us100 chart tbh

but my broker uses cme prices

if i dont wanna pay for data on both it is a good altrenative

[agile jasper]

also with topstepx they give you tradingview ultimate package for free(integrated in their trading platform, they won't upgrade your own tradingview package)

[jaunty dragon]

So I dont have to pay for tv anymore, that would be nice

Also I never seen a prop firm do only monthly payment instead of buying the initial

[agile jasper]

you will need to pay, because lux won't work on their platform

[jaunty dragon]

Oh

[agile jasper]

monthly subscriptions on futures prop firms until you pass

once you pass, you no longer pay monthly. you need to pay the activation fee that's it

built in trade copier so you can copy trade multiple accounts

[spare bloom]

thats pretty good tbh

[agile jasper]

so i play 5 accounts. $200 a day keeps the doctor away (x5)

[spare bloom]

how much for 5 accounts

[agile jasper]

Mickys streaming LIVE right now! https://discord.com/channels/641770286638694402/1178430832151638077

[agile jasper]

assuming that you pass in the first try and you pay the activation fees, $1k all in

[jaunty dragon]

Im looking for topstep's payout criteria/risk requiremetns now.

[agile jasper]

but if you have $200 x5 each day, that's 5k on day 5. you withdraw 50% and that's you banked 2.5k

[spare bloom]

can you hedge with topstep ?

[agile jasper]

illegal to hedge on futures

or illegal to hedge on prop firms. unsure if you can do this in the cash account

[agile jasper]

5 days of $200+ minimum

[spare bloom]

well nobody is gonna stop me...it is my own cash

[jaunty dragon]

They have a consistency target https://help.topstep.com/en/articles/8284208-what-is-the-consistency-target

[agile jasper]

bot blocked my message 😂

[spare bloom]

the 200 bucks is the 10 points you get everydaY?

[agile jasper]

yeah

hard TP 22 ticks per trade

[spare bloom]

thats pretty easy

[agile jasper]

2 trades = my $200

the 4 ticks are to cover the fees and potential 1 tick slippage

[spare bloom]

you just cherry pick the best 10 point trade and win

[agile jasper]

the execution is not the same across the accounts all the time

[spare bloom]

ah i see

[agile jasper]

that's it. 1k a day

no need any more right?

why be greedy when you can take it easy

of course you can scale in and 22 ticks on 5 contracts is $550

[spare bloom]

yeah thats how I did it when i started out

but no reason to limit myself now to just 10 when ik i can do more

[agile jasper]

also true

[spare bloom]

first two years i wrapped up the day in first half hour

[agile jasper]

today i did more and did a @grand galleon move for 1.5k each account

[spare bloom]

thats great

[agile jasper]

so fat payout coming next week

[spare bloom]

tbh it can be a good mind trick to see x5 than one account

lesser DD so less stress

effectively it is the same

just your mind thinks different

[agile jasper]

exactly

there is around 50 trading days left in the year

$200 (x5 accounts) a day and keep the maths on your side

[neon ether]

i was watching Micky video about scalping MNQ1 Futures and really like it, i guess top step is what you guyz refering to, right? never used futures before a new world for me, did only crypto and forex

[agile jasper]

yes, we're talking about topstep

[jaunty dragon]

What is your leverage prost?

[agile jasper]

i go 1 contract only

no need more

you can make good money with 1 contract not gonna lie

[neon ether]

is it only for US ppl or even for europe liek germany alos allwoed?

[agile jasper]

i think germany is allowed let me see

[neon ether]

thank you

[agile jasper]

these are the banned countries, germany is not here

green light for you

[jaunty dragon]

Has my bounce finally begun!

[neon ether]

🙂

for futures can you give me few hints or few words i can google for? i see micro and mini is new for me

i will watch few youtube vids abouts

anyway interestid what we learn here fron eachother

[reef sluice]

micro and mini is the replacement term for lots

[neon ether]

ok thank you

the knowledge everyone here is sharing is really gold

[agile jasper]

exactly what @reef sluice said. in forex you can trade USDJPY 1 lot or 0.5 lot

[reef sluice]

i switched from forex to futures this year myself

[agile jasper]

in futures you need to move to nasdaq micro instead of nasdaq mini. 1 mini = 10 micros

[neon ether]

i heard a lot of ppl jumping from forex to futures escpeailly scalping ppl 🙂

[agile jasper]

you can make money really fast on futures

[grand galleon]

Damn u dwarfed me 👍

[agile jasper]

NQ moves in ticks. 4 ticks = 1 point move on NQ.

1 tick = $5 profit/loss

on 10 points move on NQ you make or lose $200, NQ moves on average about 300 points a day

on 3 minutes chart, NQ's ATR is about 22 points right now

[agile jasper]

the day is still young, you can still fade me

[grand galleon]

Actually I m buying the new house…. So probably day is over 😁

[jaunty dragon]

congrats

[agile jasper]

thought you bought the house already with all the topstep profits 😂

[neon ether]

@agile jasper you use metatrader5 or is there another plattform? am asking cuz i started algo trading and practising with webhook -->flask and terminal server regards automation

[neon ether]

woww damnn 🙂

[agile jasper]

metatrader is just for forex. futures are a totally different platform linked to CME

#📈futures-stocks-chat message

[jaunty dragon]

Wow

[agile jasper]

that's a 20 points dump on NQ just now in 1 minute

[neon ether]

i see gotta do my study today regards futures, its a pleasure to learn new stuff

[agile jasper]

100 ticks x $5 per tick, do the maths

moved to futures last year when MFF rug pulled

my forex funds

https://tenor.com/view/no-regrets-no-ragrets-same-yolo-we-are-the-millers-gif-4961595

[neon ether]

i feel you bro, hopefully FTMO gonna stay but futures and TopStep sound like a company with standards

[jaunty dragon]

I'll move to TopStep after I get done with my current challenges haha

[agile jasper]

don't see why FTMO won't stay unless they're forced out by the regulations

they're OG's in the forex prop space

[neon ether]

since October this year a new law came in for private Trader accounts on FTMO to change it to a company accounts which means in germany to pay 50% TAX on it 😭

but yeah they are OGs

with TopStep and futures let see what i have to handle with

[neon ether]

i was reading the chat above and if I understood what you saying, its better to have a subscription for TV Futures CME to use with LuxAlgo? I found this https://www.tradingview.com/cme/

[agile jasper]

I have my own TV package with data feed, separately from what topstep gives me.

[neon ether]

yeah i put the link for TV and this i guess the package you mean with data feed?

[agile jasper]

that's the one, yes!

[neon ether]

hopeflly am not breaking any rules to shwo the pic

[neon ether]

perfect thanks

[agile jasper]

no rules are broken from that photo

[spare bloom]

Rusell is just mooning

doesnt care about es or nq

[agile jasper]

classic

DOW also

[vivid yew]

WHO CAUGHT THE NICE $NKE MOVE

[nocturne sigil]

Another 30 long

[jaunty dragon]

I am also long

[nocturne sigil]

whats target?

[jaunty dragon]

I am already at my PT off of that spike

[grand galleon]

Yeah now I need more 😂

[agile jasper]

when are you dropping to 1s?

[nocturne sigil]

Maybe soon

The fills are tough on the lower timeframe 1s

Sticking with a HIGHER timeframe 5s is safer

https://tenor.com/view/ray-liotta-laughing-happy-lol-gif-15802525

[nocturne sigil]

30

Ill be honest, LOLLLL
This was on DEMO

LOLLLLL

[agile jasper]

still a great trade

[nocturne sigil]

Not doing 1s with my real account

nope

❌

[zinc ferry]

Do the Bulls have any balls? Or do the play dead again. Bears are pushing the bid hard right now. Lets see if anyone is home or if they just blow the house down again.

[agile jasper]

lunchtime break they might be eating their sandwiches

[jaunty dragon]

Riles, do that again.

You said it and the acted.

[nocturne sigil]

chicken sandwich?

[agile jasper]

BLT

[nocturne sigil]

need more bacon

[agile jasper]

is that a thing in the US?

[nocturne sigil]

YUP

https://tenor.com/view/sandwich-blt-bacon-blt-sandwich-gif-9231453824199536309

[agile jasper]

yes boi

[nocturne sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-blt-sandwich-blt-turkey-sandwich-food-gif-8654087410867015292

[agile jasper]

strong push lets take the highs from earlier on and do a new session high

[nocturne sigil]

ok ser

sir

[jaunty dragon]

WOW

[neon ether]

How can you handle the spreads and fees? Can I ask what broker you are using for futures or you use top step too?

[agile jasper]

rejected at the wick from earlier on, no bueno

[jaunty dragon]

I am still in

[nocturne sigil]

Spreads on the futures CME is mostly 1 tick always during regular hours, normal flow, doesnt matter what timeframe or broker (except new releases).
And for forex, i use raw pricing with Forex.com that gives me 0 spreads for EUR/USD

[trail geode]

lean hogs are bullish right now

[jaunty dragon]

All PTs met, im done for the day!

[fair socket]

@sturdy wharf how's your lean hogs

[urban flint]

Russel is in full bull

[zinc ferry]

Bulls gave up again. Guess they only work 1 day per week

[neon ether]

Thanks a lot for the information

[zinc ferry]

Bears hitting the bid again. Bulls? Buehler?

[grand galleon]

Today @agile jasper wins 🥇
Secured only 6K among my 5 accounts. Will be more aggressive tomorrow 👍

[zinc ferry]

Bulls have no conviction

[agile jasper]

i win today, you win everyday 😂 good job

[grand galleon]

i believe you win everyday too.... btw what strategy do you use? i know @nocturne sigil has his 30 ticks on double neo cloud. and you?

[agile jasper]

vwaps and 3 minutes opening range breakout. hard TP 22 ticks for a few trades

[grand galleon]

vwaps is interesting although i don t know how to trade it... i did sometimes 15 min range brake out .... but i feel like i have better using my multitime freme strategy. why change...

@agile jasper

[agile jasper]

if it aint broke don't fix it

[grand galleon]

yeah... but somehow i like learning new stuff

[agile jasper]

15 mins also works, any opening range you want it works

vwap is where the volume is so you can look at buying above the vwap or selling when the price is below the vwap. it's the balance between buyers and sellers

white line is NY's vwap, and the fibs is the 3 minutes opening range. notice how the price and vwap leave the opening range and we dump. then during lunchtime it flattens out so it's ranging

[nocturne sigil]

flush this

flush THIS

FLUSH THIS

NOW

Got it by a tick

30 on a short mnq

painful

stupid of me at closing

dumb!

[agile jasper]

and it pushed it pushed it pushed

and it's still pushing

[nocturne sigil]

Today was micro moves of 15-30 ticks
up down up down

[zinc ferry]

What are the two neo clouds telling you?

[nocturne sigil]

Tells me the trend direction

[neon ether]

I really like it and trying to test your strategy with 30 tick TP but found out on topstep there is no demo account?
You know any broker for futures who gives Demo accounts? cuz am still new with micro and mini etc. before i jump into real accounts

[agile jasper]

you need to get an account first then you can activate the demo

[neon ether]

you mean topstep account?

no need to pay the 50$ monthly?

[agile jasper]

you need to get the monthly first

then you can activate a practice account

[neon ether]

got the point am reading about it, thank you

am new to these plattforms, does anyone of them have an API or do automate stuff or is there a way to communicate with them like with python or any other scipt?

TOPSTEPX seems for me like a blackbox webbased plattform but ninjatrader do have some API: https://ninjatrader.com/support/helpGuides/nt8/NT HelpGuide English.html?automated_trading_interface_at.htm

am not doing any advertisment guyz just reading and trying to give the infos I found, maybe someone have same interests 🙂

[agile jasper]

not sure to be fair

[neon ether]

I found out someone info that TV can be connectd with Ninja Trader with help of software called crosstrader: #🧬ai-chat message
Even he done it for futures, sounds great but i wanna see if can be fully automated without using external software

each plattform has own advantages and disadvantages like tradovate can be used thru tradingview, this is new for me never did trading in TV, if anyone have experience, would be glad to hear about it

@agile jasper which plattform are you using if you dont mine to ask you?

[agile jasper]

topstepx for me

0 comissions, i just need to pay the clearing fees which is $2.80 round trip

i did automation on both quantower and topstepx, different platforms therefore different ways to automate trade. but for me it was a simple python script that grabbed the webhook and pressed hotkeys based on the json message

[agile jasper]

for TV you need to go tradovate and link the account with tradingview. i am not a fan of it, i personally believe it has delays but some people might prove me wrong

quantower has excellent executions

[neon ether]

damnn really appreciate the knowledge you are giving that sounds great, i guess you worked with flask --> grabbing webhook --> hotkey
which library did you use for python like https://pypi.org/project/PyHotKey/ or https://pyautogui.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ ?

[agile jasper]

ngrok into flask -> pyautoguy and pygetwindow

pyautogui to press the keys and pygetwindow to focus the window (quantower when i did it, and then chrome because tsx is web based)

[neon ether]

thank you

[neon ether]

i guess my last question for tonight 🙂 are you running ngrok on WIN terminal server or linux or MAC?
Why am asking i had running ngrok on WIN TS but sometimes did updates and restart automatically, i tried to shotdown all auto updates but didnt work, maybe i need to do more research about it.
And the other problem WIN is very slow (was running only 3Metatrader) comparing to a normal ubuntu server

[zinc ferry]

Do you have the neos set on 1 and 3?

[nocturne sigil]

Yes 1 and 3

[spare bloom]

Nq pumping

I didnt even know the reson i just longed

It looked so strong

Maybe some earning i didnt know about

we got companies having earnings these days

Tsm beat earnings

Taiwan semiconductors

[fair socket]

Todays news

[mental sky]

Just closed a nice crude short using the multi TF OB strat for entry and exit

[trail geode]

lionheart is going to make another 200k today trading nq

[grand galleon]

Yeah my friend you know the way now 👍
I m up 2500$ for the day 💰💰💰

474$x 5 accounts

[mental sky]

Nice. I made about 800 on that trade. Going to try one soon on HK50 if it comes a little lower 🤞

[mental sky]

Look at gold. I didn’t take the long though. Trapped in the short still.

[grand galleon]

I m doing only Nq but appreciate it works on all assets

[grand galleon]

I believe you should have reached tp according to my exit strategy

With the short I mean

[mental sky]

Yeah I should have taken it. Was too biased in my thoughts about direction. Oh well. Seems to be going back down.

[grand galleon]

For what I see you should have taken 1 short win, 1 long win, 1 short almost loss…. Since hasn’t taken your sl yet

Hopefully will go down again

[mental sky]

Yeah absolutely. My trouble is that I believe gold tops for the cycle around here which makes it hard for me to exit shorts. Which is dumb. I should try to ignore beliefs.

[grand galleon]

Yeah ….. trade what markets tells you to trade, not what we believe it will do. When I believe a trade most of the time I loss…. Pushing hard to stop trading my beliefs

[mental sky]

It’s probably my biggest problem at the moment. Thanks for the tips.

[grand galleon]

It is not only your problem ….. trust me.

Let’s add 3.000$ secured 💰

[neon ether]

which strategy are you refering to, i mean the Multi TF OB, any hints or info i can get for?

[mental sky]

https://discord.com/channels/641770286638694402/1133544764868919406

Using 1min and 15min OBs

[neon ether]

ok thanks, you mean 15 min OB for like bias and Entry on 1 min, right?

you have one example for me, or just a screenshot?

[mental sky]

The grey box is a 15min OB. The blue boxes are 1min OBs. When a 1min OB overlaps a 15min OB, use it as a long or short entry. SL not far on the other side. TP is the same double OB in the direction of the trade. So you need two sets of the PAC indicator.

Here’s some for NQ

So you’d short 20500-20510, SL maybe 20520. TP 20428 or 20410.

Or vice versa for a long.

[rare eagle]

Thanks Doc I will look into it

[neon ether]

thanks for advice,

1. For your NQ short you wait for choch on 1min TF to be sure or take it as soon hit 20500-20510?
2. If it hit SL and go over OB and make retest of OB of make choch for long, you take longf for NQ?
3. You have a period of time to trade NQ like 9 - 11 EST or only london session or NY session?

[agile jasper]

my own pc. if restarts happen oh well 😂

[agile jasper]

i just hate when NQ moves 200 points overnight. simply hate it

we're at 524 and vwap is all the way down to 403

[spare bloom]

earnings

thats why it is best not to trade close to market close now

you will see alot of manipulations

[agile jasper]

yeah waiting for NY to open. we got numbers as well

[spare bloom]

gold is mooning too

[jaunty dragon]

Im in a gold short

Out

[nocturne sigil]

Nice gamble here for 30

[agile jasper]

we got numbers in 5

[nocturne sigil]

30 more

[jaunty dragon]

In Gold long

SL hit

[nocturne sigil]

futures?

tough now since we have news release

[jaunty dragon]

Yep, news got me

[nocturne sigil]

30 long

Lost the next one, reversed it for a win.

Ok im done for now
Need to rest my head

[neon ether]

i was follwoing you to understand the startegy, now i get it, thank you

[nocturne sigil]

Dont follow, its a mindless scalp strat

LOLLLLLL

[vestal arch]

I'm new here what should we buy? I bught luxalgo 5 minutes ago

[nocturne sigil]

Welcome aboard 👋🏻
Please browse around...
Here are some channels to help you get started #🧠core-lessons #📈must-watch

• I also hold daily Discord Community Live Streams, and the recordings are posted here #1199356285813006367 where I go through settings and tips/tricks for a simple template to start.
• Members have been posting their personal strategies here as well #1128499789437354106 Browse around here to see if you find something that may fit your style with some settings and timeframe adjustments. Remember, any of these strategies can be traded with any symbol, you would just need to optimize them.
  Welcome aboard again

[neon ether]

but it works 🙂

[nocturne sigil]

for me, yeah, i just set a hard TP at 30 ticks, and scalp using 5s, 15s, 30s or 1m depending on the day and how I feel

just want a small piece a few times, then scale up

nothing fancy

[neon ether]

is your sl when Neo switch or you look into PAC?

[nocturne sigil]

For this scalp, depends on the news day or what is going on, I either use Neo switch or candle color for my SL
I am just counting on the high win rates for 30 ticks to overcome my stops once in awhile.
I may change 30 ticks down a bit to 20 or 25, not sure, because today, it was hbarely hitting 30 a few times

STops are typically 20-40 ticks

[neon ether]

ok thank you and i did little backtest i think MAT. osc is very helpful to know the direction or just a retracment before closing the trade

[nocturne sigil]

YES on Matrix, for sure.

This is what I need to work on

[spare bloom]

i longed gold

very nice move

[nocturne sigil]

At times, i dont focus on Matrix and try to jump in early, I try to be smart, but NQ and Matrix is smarter, and slaps me
@neon ether

[jaunty dragon]

I also did a couple of gold scalps this morning

[nocturne sigil]

Nice one!

[nocturne sigil]

Yes

[neon ether]

this weekend gonna study more and do some Backtest, appreciate the information you guyz giving such a lovley community

[nocturne sigil]

Look at this loss and the Matrix
I was dumb

[agile jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-math-school-asia-study-gif-18879119

[vestal arch]

what broker do you guys recommend

[nocturne sigil]

For futures, I LOVE to trade direct on my TradingView charts, so I use Tradestation or Tradovate which are integrated brokers for TradingView

[neon ether]

perfect example could wait for hyperwave above 50% and then take only the buy. Today like within 15 min 5 trades, i know not everyday is a winning day but on long term with big lots or in future languange big micros or mini with small target gonna be a wiinign week or a month.
You guyz change my mind how to think.

[nocturne sigil]

100%

For me, its about scaling up, increase position size

[neon ether]

yes yes 💯

[nocturne sigil]

if i have a good win rate on a set TP, then I wont go for a bigger TP, ill just scale up my positions

DOnt fix whats not broken

[neon ether]

is my settings regards NY session right?

or is it 9:30

[nocturne sigil]

-4 for NY timezone

UTC-4

This is mine

Meanwhile, I stopped trading, and then I see this FOMO stuff

WTH

😡

[jaunty dragon]

When is it going to stop going up!

I'd like to get some nice shorts in today.

[agile jasper]

yep, insane pump

we need a pullback when NY opens so I can get an entry

vwap at 20447 right now

[nocturne sigil]

U need to start trading early

Early bird gets the worm?

🪱

[agile jasper]

that is correct

but i will get chopped like an onion

been there done that

[nocturne sigil]

🧅

🔪

[nocturne sigil]

@vestal arch Hope this helps?

[spare bloom]

vwap is in africa

[nocturne sigil]

I forgot to set 30 TP, so manually closed during the dump for 60 short

👀

[agile jasper]

vwap 470

[neon ether]

aha i see, and i was asking myself before what if i want more then 30 ticks getting greeday haha ,its hard to know how to trail it 🙂

[agile jasper]

what is this dip

jesus

[spare bloom]

i am in

lets go

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

i am out

took some heat but was great buy

[agile jasper]

what a dump jesus

vwap here

[spare bloom]

i mean that was normal dump

market didnt pullback all day hahahah

[agile jasper]

there was some middle east news

[spare bloom]

link ?

i dont see anything

only ukraine russia stuff

[urban flint]

Have anyone experienced this? My broker closed my position in advance of hitting my SL.. hm.

[neon ether]

why is vwap important? i mean how you consider the value 470?

[spare bloom]

my broker is lagging just after i got my exit

idk either

[agile jasper]

a level to consider for me

[neon ether]

ok i guess i need to put research on it, never used it before or tbh just did little google about it right now

[spare bloom]

vwap is the first thing I used when i was a newbie

big hedgefunds use this as areas of accumulations of orders

usually good to also identify trends

if it is below vwap it is bearish and above is bullish

[neon ether]

aha ok thank you, you have a special indicator for it i mean where you get the info from?

ok i see its in the luxalgo session indicator

[spare bloom]

vwap is a free indicator on TV

[spare bloom]

you can just use the default version from TV

[neon ether]

ok thx

[spare bloom]

because you have to anchor it

it is either daily or by session

[urban flint]

When you have a perfect entry and your broker cancel it in advance before hitting SL. cool cool cool.

[agile jasper]

you can use the session's vwap, it does the job

[dusty grove]

Done with ES for the day 🫡
ssmt entry in the 1 min chart.

[nocturne sigil]

Wow, NICE !!!!!!!!!!

[neon ether]

yeap, now i know from where you have 470 🙂

[spare bloom]

i am already done for the day

clean short on open then buy at vwap

gold new ath

[jaunty dragon]

Shorting gold here

[spare bloom]

dont

it has to go 2700 now if it is that close

[agile jasper]

400 broken

[jaunty dragon]

Got out with a profit, moved to a NAS100 short.

[zinc ferry]

Wher oh where have the Bulls gone? Another day, another a$$ whooping by the Bears. Seriously considering changing sides! I think im done being a Bull trader! They seem to get destroyed everyday.

[spare bloom]

you are just trading the wrong times

market pumped hard all day

this is just a pullback now

and also it is earnings season

people could just sell the news

pumps hard then dumps

recovers after few days

all you need to know nvda is back at 138 like it was nothing

from 129 to 138 a day

this for sure wants new ath

[agile jasper]

classic nvda

[spare bloom]

almost 139 now

holy

yeah no way it is not touching ath at this rate

[jaunty dragon]

Added to my short

[spare bloom]

i personally wouldnt short

nvda is too bullish atm

LOL nvda already 141

damn

[agile jasper]

no ATH yet

[spare bloom]

techincally it is previous high was 140.75 this 140.88

[urban flint]

I'm in a long on NQ

[spare bloom]

i scalped a few longs

minor ones tho like 5-10 points cuz i am done xD

[agile jasper]

vwap here on NQ

no reason to short this yet

[spare bloom]

it is already above my vwap

[jaunty dragon]

SLs hit

[spare bloom]

nvda is on its way to 140 now

[agile jasper]

ooft

thank god i didn't long above the vwap 😂

[spare bloom]

volatillity is just high now

[agile jasper]

yeah i closed my shop

[spare bloom]

it is still bullish imo

[agile jasper]

had some weird fills on the leader account compared to the slave accounts

$500 difference between them lol

500 on the green side so can't complain 😂

[spare bloom]

i still find it weird my vwap is different than yours

[agile jasper]

that's a buy wick there on the 3 minutes

[spare bloom]

maybe cuz i am using us100 instead of NQ chart

[agile jasper]

no clue, my vwap is at 451

[agile jasper]

THAT'S WHY

LOL

go on NQ and see where the vwap is

[spare bloom]

but hey it seems the us100 one is more accurate

[open tide]

Yeah it is

[spare bloom]

to you it looked like it dumped hard below vwap but for me it just went slightly below it then bounced hard above it

[agile jasper]

are you trading NQ or US100?

[spare bloom]

my broker uses NQ prices from cme the exact ones but i use us100 for reading charts

on TV

it doesnt matter if us100 says 20267 and goes up 20 points ik it went up 20 points on the NQ one

it is just price is slightly different

[agile jasper]

holding at the vwap for now

[agile jasper]

correct. where is the vwap on NQ for you?

[spare bloom]

now

at 420

[agile jasper]

NQ not US100

NQ should be at 450.75 or around there

[spare bloom]

idk i didnt pay for data on TV for NQ

i am trading from broker end

[agile jasper]

AHAHAHAH

got it

[spare bloom]

NQ is at 415 now

[agile jasper]

if it works for you might aswell

[spare bloom]

hahaha yeah it is confusing at first trading different prices

but I got used to it

it is not like I cant afford data on both

but i just found us100 to be more accurate

i hope people listend and didnt short gold

new ath already

still holding strong for nq

nvda is still above 139

[agile jasper]

crazy rally for GC

NQ is just struggling at vwap

[spare bloom]

maybe it is coiling for the next move

[agile jasper]

30 points up, 30 points down

[spare bloom]

yes clearly some accumaltion going on

[agile jasper]

i have a limit buy at 380 on the paper account

and a limit sell at 490

looks like i'm in a buy soon

[spare bloom]

you usually close shop early

[agile jasper]

i closed the shop

[spare bloom]

ah right

[agile jasper]

but i still do paper to test things out

[spare bloom]

paper

i gtg now...got work until 9 pm in the office

[agile jasper]

👋

[spare bloom]

stay safe

[agile jasper]

long at 380 played up nice on paper

Mickys streaming LIVE right now! https://discord.com/channels/641770286638694402/1178430832151638077

interesting how robinhood joins the futures space

[agile jasper]

just a wee double bottom on the 3 minutes NQ

[grand galleon]

difficult day today ..... up 6k but has been hard

[agile jasper]

i'm not far behind so well done

[agile jasper]

looks like a nice reversal indeed

vwap is flat and it's lunchtime in 10 minutes

[jaunty dragon]

I got in a little too early 😦

But have recovered from the drawdown

[grand galleon]

you re will soon get the first place .... well done although i ve to step back on second 😡

[jaunty dragon]

Added more

[agile jasper]

great push well done

i had long from 380 on paper but closed 20 points higher

would have been a great run nonetheless

[jaunty dragon]

Its now hitting that MSS from 0845 to 0930

[agile jasper]

3 minutes opening range low rejection

[jaunty dragon]

Exactly

Thinking aobut getting out here

Close to my PTs anyway

[agile jasper]

needs more juice by the looks of it

[jaunty dragon]

I am so bad, I bought more right there..

[agile jasper]

50 points dump

vwap at 461

450 vwap sorry

[severe solar]

Bearish GAP Divergence on again on XAU! You know ill be trading those GC Futures doe!

[jaunty dragon]

Nice looking setup you have there.

[nocturne sigil]

30

[severe solar]

man with the 30 sec chart

legend @nocturne sigil

[jaunty dragon]

Im out

[nocturne sigil]

5s or 15s buddy

LOLLL

30 tick TP

[nocturne sigil]

Need to add your GAPPY Divergence into the mix

[nocturne sigil]

NY is coming out of lunch time

Lets get ready?

[agile jasper]

CL just dumped

nearly $1 in seconds

and back up lol

[severe solar]

Yesssir

@nocturne sigil

[nocturne sigil]

Stagnant now
1m, 30s or lower, just bouncing 10-20 ticks up and down

[spare bloom]

You guys still alive?

Seems market did rally

[agile jasper]

yep

so NQ nuked because there was unconfirmed news of one of hamas's leaders being killed, this is now confirmed apparently

[spare bloom]

Idk about nuked

nq hardly moved

I just see chop

Will see in few minutes

[agile jasper]

200 points off the open

that's not hardly moved

[spare bloom]

Yeah but it didnt break trend

It went up more than it went down

It is flushing now tho

[agile jasper]

so 380 slightly rejected again

[nocturne sigil]

Ok

[urban flint]

Man the market is slow

[agile jasper]

300 points power hour incoming

[urban flint]

Haha

More like dump incoming

[agile jasper]

down at 380 once again

[urban flint]

Power dump hour

20300 if not hold here

[hasty pilot]

Tonight , I submitted my payout request with TopStep. Looks like most traders going back with TopStep lol

[agile jasper]

well done, now you're playing with house money.

[nocturne sigil]

Boom

[hasty pilot]

Yes sir
I could’ve been a bit more patient, but $900 isn’t bad lol

[hasty pilot]

🔥🔥🔥 LuxAlgo signals bro

Heard FTT payouts is super dead 💀
I’m almost @ $15,000
I’m gonna request the $4k and dip lol

[nocturne sigil]

Wow, lets us know when this is processed, Im sure you are excited and anxious for this to hit your bank account
Awesome feeling

[bold mango]

hey let's say if there is Bearish OB but there is Bullish FVG like this, What you will likely do in such situation?

[cedar flicker]

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/NAS100/hWL1LVbK-NAS100-Eyeing-Long-Positions-at-Golden-Fibonacci-Level/

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/US30/I0iQwaj3-Bearish-Divergence-Signals-Potential-Reversal/

[fair socket]

Todays news

[rugged breach]

Does anyone trade NQ in here?

[agile jasper]

the majority of people in here trade nQ

just wait for the NY open this place will get loud 😂

[rugged breach]

I’m in the right place then

[nocturne sigil]

No one here.
NQ is EVIL

👿

[urban flint]

I am

Not trading NQ today however. Don't like the look

[agile jasper]

we're inside yesterday's action

[nocturne sigil]

whats does outside look like? so i can watch for it

[jaunty dragon]

I will be shorting today!

[rugged breach]

I want to see it around 20,560 so we can short it like yesterday

[nocturne sigil]

17

[rugged breach]

NQ is the mother of all 📊😅

[agile jasper]

17k means outside

[neon ether]

today am trying to learn by being a little active. i want to start with papertrading in TV, anyone use it here for learning by doing? Or it is not realistic comparing a real account e.g by topstep?

[agile jasper]

a very subjective question.
for me, paper trading never worked because it involves no emotions.

[jaunty dragon]

Webull has a decent paper trading account, not sure if they do futures/forex though.

[nocturne sigil]

Dam, BE

[neon ether]

yeah you are right, futures is a different world for me, i just used Forex before

[rugged breach]

You’re doing the right thing until you get some experience 👍

[supple lava]

Paper trading works only to learn and practice the “process” of trading. Entering, exiting, adding a stop, how to buy vs sell, how to select options from different timeframes etc… but I agree caca_prost that it doesn’t actually help with fine tuning any trading skills or strategies because there is zero emotional involvement.

[neon ether]

yeah i got the point

emotion is eveything when seeing dollars comming or going away

[rugged breach]

A little accumulation then comes manipulation you know the story 🤑

[nocturne sigil]

this time got my 30

[nocturne sigil]

I actually dont

[rugged breach]

📉 ⬇️🔥🐦‍🔥

[neon ether]

sry mybe am missing something i was calculating the ticks but got 20, right? i still need more ticks?

i want just to know how to calc it to know how the profit

like i said i come from forex world

[nocturne sigil]

your image says 80 ticks on your ruler

$0.50 per tick on micro NQ

so thats a $40 win if you get it on one contract

For full size emini NQ, thats $400

[neon ether]

🔥 🔥 ok ok, this sound cool

[nocturne sigil]

micro is 1/10 of full emini contract

10 micros NQ = 1 full emini NQ

Benefit of micros is, you can trade 10 micros and you can scale out, and have runners, if you have limited account size

like the poor folks like me.

[neon ether]

i was reading in Topstep FAQ:
1 mini contract = 10 micros
In a 50K account, you can trade up to 50 micros

or 5 minis

[neon ether]

thank you for explanation

[nocturne sigil]

and dont forget, futures you need to be aware of margin calls due to intraday and regular hours margins, and contract roolover every 3 months

need to pay attention to futures, more so than forex

[neon ether]

yeah for real

I was reading more for Topstep no advertisment, but maybe new ppl like me are interested to futures:
With larger trades come larger fees.
There are no commission fees in TopstepX, but clearing fees still apply.
Micros are normally higher than minis (for instance on NQ is $2.80 round turn where MNQ is $0.74) 10 micro NQs would be $7.40 round turn instead of $2.80.

[agile jasper]

correct, but with micros you can take partials, with minis you can't

you can't open a mini NQ long, and close half of it

[jaunty dragon]

I am so excited to trade, come on open!

[neon ether]

ok thx for hints

[nocturne sigil]

First things first, lets pass the combine

YOU GOT THIS !

@neon ether

[jaunty dragon]

Well thats a much earlier drop than I expected

[agile jasper]

yeah was watching this

[neon ether]

goota homework for weekend to do.

[agile jasper]

that's a big dump there

FED bostic speaks right when the market opens

[rugged breach]

What I tell you she’s doing it already

[agile jasper]

and now the pump

AHAHAH

right back up there

[jaunty dragon]

Thats hilarious

[frank locust]

"urgent liquidity"

[jaunty dragon]

May want to long some gold today also.

[agile jasper]

this is a trade @spare bloom took for sure

[spare bloom]

Nope didnt take it

I am at the beach

Market is in a range so kinda boring

[nocturne sigil]

Switched to mES for 8 ticks, 2 points

Crude is a slow grind

👀

[agile jasper]

slow grind to the downside on CL

[urban flint]

Sitting in this one.

[nocturne sigil]

dam again, BE +1 on mCL

[urban flint]

Sitting in this one too

[reef sluice]

great last trade of the week for me during asia/london session

[nocturne sigil]

2 more pts

[agile jasper]

500s dumped right down

vwap at 20444 now

[nocturne sigil]

17?

[agile jasper]

not yet

[nocturne sigil]

ok

[rugged breach]

Got in the retest here we go

[spare bloom]

I shorted 500 too

[rugged breach]

If I don’t get stop out in the next 2 minutes we hit TP FOR SURE

[neon ether]

you are trading directly in TV app with a real accounts, i mean the brokers are also integrated in the app, so need for PC?

[rugged breach]

There probably trying to sweep liquidity

[neon ether]

?

[nocturne sigil]

that was a painful 30 long on mnq

[jaunty dragon]

im long on NAS100

[neon ether]

you follw the rule when both neo cloud are in up, you get in and make the profit

[agile jasper]

push push

[nocturne sigil]

That is the theory, but every trade is different.
Part of it is the "feeling" with trade management.

👉🏽 Trade Management
If you can get this down, you will MAKE IT !

[neon ether]

yeap

[nocturne sigil]

8 ticks mES

rinse
repeat

[rugged breach]

If you look at the BE BLOCK they took out the relative EH at 20508.50 I was able to get a better position b

[jaunty dragon]

I am out, probably about to switch to shorts for the rest of the day.

[dusty grove]

2 short scalps on ES and I’m done ✅ 🫡

[jaunty dragon]

Shorting gold spot

[agile jasper]

markets stuck here going nowhere

[nocturne sigil]

nice!

[spare bloom]

Thats why I am at the beach

told you we are stuck in the range

[hasty pilot]

NQ ES YM
The opening range for today.

[urban flint]

Man, how solid is PAC. The more I've use the lux tools the more it's becoming my go to.

[agile jasper]

vwap here at 461

[agile jasper]

Mickys streaming LIVE right now! https://discord.com/channels/641770286638694402/1178430832151638077

[jaunty dragon]

Its just going to keep going up today.

[lunar grove]

Hey im getting started in this assest class in tips or where to start?

[nocturne sigil]

3rd times a charm?

🤷🏽‍♂️

[urban flint]

Maybe..

[ripe ravine]

Is there an explanation post to tel how this setting work?

[urban flint]

Looks like he has two neo with different setting, I think he goes over these in his streams.

I bet the S&O is Long term, the rest is standard from PAC.

[nocturne sigil]

Hey there, are you a subscribing member? if so your Discord is not connected here...

[urban flint]

NQ is really working on that breakthrough

[nocturne sigil]

Its trying, but its friday

[urban flint]

To many players are just going to play this back and forth.

[nocturne sigil]

3 bearish wicks

dang

[urban flint]

yup

[nocturne sigil]

im done for the day, they can play by themselves, im out

LOL

[urban flint]

Haha

Silver looks good for breakout

[agile jasper]

beer time?

[urban flint]

I was way to late on that one.

[nocturne sigil]

ice tea

[urban flint]

I got a marathon on Sunday, then beers lol

I'm done

This was my big one today

Did not touch NQ

And this one

[agile jasper]

you missed nothing

[urban flint]

It looked trashed pre market. I hate seeing mixed signals

just marked it do not touch lol

I had ES and YM marked out, but never took those either.

In hinesight, these would have both been awesome, but thats easy to say after the fact they play out

Just was not happy with NQ today, hence stayed away on both these.

[grand galleon]

thank God i was out with kids today.... what a crappy price action on ny. closing the day with 1500$. not that much but better then nothing

[nocturne sigil]

No beach?

[grand galleon]

no.... coming snow soon

[nocturne sigil]

Hahaha

Yes first day it’s not 100 deg F for me

[cerulean vine]

Hello, does Premium level allow access to the live trading steam

[agile jasper]

they are free for subscribers and non-subscribers, however to access previous recordings you need to be a subscribing member

[cerulean vine]

Thanks, I'm just using the luxalgo's macros and killzones atm, trades are going well, will give premium a test this Monday

Shorted NQ after open range high, macros as SR, then scaled in/out

Simple chart like Micky mentioned, will lyk how Premium does EOD Monday, take care everyone 🙂

[nocturne sigil]

How did power hour go for everyone here?

🧐

[urban flint]

It was a good nap

[nocturne sigil]

nice, im jealous

[urban flint]

This move was insane. I did not catch it. Gold just keeps going

[hasty pilot]

I’ve been saying this for months lol

[nocturne sigil]

17?

[hasty pilot]

😁
After going back to TS from FTTs failures - got a little $50k. And now waiting for my payout.

Honestly I HIGHLY recommend everyone stay with TopStep until these firms can truly deliver.

Shoutout to @Luxalgo for the tremendous indicators ! I used signals & overlays and Oscillator matrix the most along my own strategy 🫡🫡

[neon ether]

happy to hear that am learning step by step futures and want to start with TS too

[nocturne sigil]

Nice
What made you leave TS before?

[hasty pilot]

Come thru bro. They are the #1 in terms of solid rules. Quick payouts.
Just get passed that evaluation stage and your money iso yours.

[hasty pilot]

They banned me on discord because of my luxalgo affiliate link.

And I haven’t even made a dollar off of the link but I “refused” to remove it lol 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne sigil]

Ahhhhh
But they let you back?

[hasty pilot]

No im still banned.
But anyways im a trader. I just need to trade. I’m alright with no access ⛔️

I’m banned from their discord. Yet they just sent me $900 for my payout 😂

[nocturne sigil]

Ahh, ok.....

crazy

[hasty pilot]

Crazy

[nocturne sigil]

Hey whatever works, as long as you get paid...

Whats you strat on TS? quick scalps? @hasty pilot

[hasty pilot]

Exactly how I think. Pay me my gains and I’m cool with whatever

[hasty pilot]

Yes quick Scalping in and around the opening tbh. Quick 1-2 Mini NQs
I use your signals around the open

[nocturne sigil]

how many ticks TP?

[neon ether]

The rule regards payout in TS, says 5 winning day with 200 Dollar, means everyday i have to win 200 dollar or within 5 day i need to win 200 Dollar?

[nocturne sigil]

I believe its any 5 days with at least $200 or more (but less that 50% goal)

[hasty pilot]

120 ticks Stop
120 profit target 🎯
Always and forever lol until NQ decides otherwise.

[nocturne sigil]

Not sure, though

[neon ether]

ok this sounds great

[nocturne sigil]

OH dang, thats nice

[hasty pilot]

They mean just have 5 days that you made more than $200.
So I traded 8 days.
I only have 6 winning days.
And that was enough for me to hit the request button

[nocturne sigil]

@hasty pilot can verify

[neon ether]

🔥

[agile jasper]

any 5 winning days of $200+ and you qualify for a payout 50% of your total balance

[nocturne sigil]

@hasty pilot What TF?

[agile jasper]

you can have 10k today and 4 days of $200, you withdraw 50% of the balance of 10800

no questions asked

[hasty pilot]

What happened?

Oh time frame 😂😂

[nocturne sigil]

what timeframe chart you use for TS?

[agile jasper]

😂 timeframe

[hasty pilot]

I thought you mean what the f**

[nocturne sigil]

hahaha

[hasty pilot]

Lmao 🤣

5m bro

[nocturne sigil]

cool

not 5seconds?

LOLLLL

[agile jasper]

FTT ever paid you?

[agile jasper]

not everyone is like you!!!!

[hasty pilot]

Haha

[hasty pilot]

No can I be honest?

[neon ether]

and if got it right 1 mini on NQ cost 2.8 dollar and rest is profit, which means i only need about 10 ticks to cover the fees, right?
1 tick is 0.5 * 10 ticks =3 dollar, am doint the math, right?

[hasty pilot]

I blew it today 😂
I was up +$12,000
I just said fuck you and yeah blew it

[agile jasper]

you need 1 tick to cover the fees. 1 tick = $5

[agile jasper]

LMAO

topstep is superior anyway

[neon ether]

micky is motivating me to start with 5 or 15 sec haha

[hasty pilot]

Bro they may never pay me so I said Fuck it

[agile jasper]

don't

[nocturne sigil]

what did you mean you blew it?

[hasty pilot]

I was at work and todays chop , so I kept going in and out with 5 Minis 😂

[nocturne sigil]

NO

[agile jasper]

become comfortable with higher timeframe first before dropping to 5s 😂

[neon ether]

ohh yes i made maths wrong 1 tick mini is 5 dollar and 1 tick micro is 0.5

[agile jasper]

i still need my heart pills when trading NQ on 3 minutes nevermind 5 seconds

[nocturne sigil]

You have any profits left over there to get paid?

[neon ether]

😂

[hasty pilot]

Think about it guys I just traded for eight good days and I’m already getting a payout with a $50,000 account. I did the eval in two days. With FTT there’s so much uncertainty don’t even wanna be with them right now. I’m 100% on top.

[agile jasper]

he ran it into the ground

aka pushed and pushed and pushed until 12k became 0

[hasty pilot]

I did manage it to $12,222.00
But then I just flipped and said I’d rather put my energy at work on TopStep then FTT.
However , I have $2,000 referrals tho.
I’ve requested that.
Waiting ….. 🫠

[hasty pilot]

Exactly that’s exactly what I did.
Ran it to the ground

FTT did teach me a great lesson …

[agile jasper]

quality vs quantity? 😂

[nocturne sigil]

But what made you decide to leave FTT and go back to TS?

You just dont trust them in paying out? shady?

[hasty pilot]

From my perspective, the payouts were just simply taking too long and individuals were becoming very hostile on aggressive and they’ve been waiting for more than 20 days. So who am I for them to pay me any sooner and the mental stress that you all know we go through it’s just not worth it with FTT.

[nocturne sigil]

20 days????? OMG!

I WANNA SPEAK TO A MANAGER NOW!

[hasty pilot]

Oh yes, and the discord you can see in the YouTube comment sections anyone that refers or discusses FTT, has been waiting for more than 10 days after requesting

[nocturne sigil]

LOLLLLL

[agile jasper]

ok Karen

[nocturne sigil]

[hasty pilot]

Yes, we can say FTT has only been around for less than one year, and top step has been here for more than 10 years but by the way, I just wanna get paid. I’ve taught myself. I’ve learned I’ve taken all the lessons from all the good traders I just wanna get paid for my hard work And that’s why I went with top step.

[neon ether]

FFT the name what is it?

[hasty pilot]

FTT. Fast track trading

[neon ether]

ok

am focusing on TS and step by stp learning the rules

but as i understood bots and EAs are not allowed, i think its fine for the beginning for me

[hasty pilot]

Exactly!

[hasty pilot]

Yeah, I’m not familiar with any of the EA or bot perspective. I just trade support and resistance.

[agile jasper]

where?

topstep?

[neon ether]

yes

[agile jasper]

automation is allowed

you understood wrong

[neon ether]

ehm wait id did read today

[nocturne sigil]

So we can honestly say, there has been no huge mass of traders complaining about TS and their payouts? all good and ontime I assume?

[agile jasper]

[nocturne sigil]

They are the top dog and legit one?

Asking for a friend?

[agile jasper]

you read wrong, I did automation on topstep with zero issues

[agile jasper]

top top top top top dog

TOPstep = TOPdog

[neon ether]

Is bot trading allowed in TopstepX?
Bots and algorithmic trading is not currently supported.

maybe they dont provide bots but if we build our owns is finde