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[hearty rivet]

So

No stress

I also got blue verified tick on ig

Yesterday

So today I’m pimping some chicks

[west berry]

Breaker holding for dear life on 5min Nq

[cloud cipher]

@hearty rivet trying to follow - are you basically saying after we swept the London high and started back down you played the 11.55 MSS

Looks like that was the first bearish one since London high was taken

50% fib pulled based on the MSS candle is the white line (best entry?)
50% fib pulled top of session to bottom of session is bright green line (TP?)

[plain dove]

Remember that FOMC Meeting minutes is <t:1688580000:R>

[west berry]

Breaker held again turn into an order block

[barren lintel]

howd you set that timer?

[night flicker]

Damn

Fucking left the trade open

Didn’t take profit at 500$ and missed the exit

Got out at BE

but my trailing SL is up by 500$

[covert plaza]

Is apex PA a/c only for day trading?

[night flicker]

Yes

[night flicker]

this was the setup that I took

as you can see my TP was too greedy, I will now send the 1m to show you the extra confirmation on that TP

thats the 1m and that consolidation basically created and OB so it would've been a good target

usually you want to take the upper line of the OB but with Fib Golden zone lining up perfectly with the lower part its a good TP

as of ES I didn't see any good setup to take

but this would've been fine as well

(ES 5m)

and CL

that upper zone is a 1m OB from the first high

[low yoke]

Has anyone used the Lux silver bullet indicator today?

[night flicker]

In conclusion when following these setups strictly (keep in mind that I fucked up the NQ TP and didn't want to enter other trades):

ES: 40 ticks (10 points AKA 500$ per contract) 3 RR
NQ: 200 ticks (50 points AKA 1,000$ per contract) 1.5 RR
CL: 40 ticks (0.4 points AKA 400$ per contract) 2.4 RR

hope tomorrow I won't fuck it up like today lol

[wraith wharf]

It looked good, you just need to set tps at PD arrays. That swing was definitely greedy lol

[night flicker]

oh also before Forseti shits on me lol (he won't dw) the CL MSS isn't 100% because it wasn't a real displacement but CL was bullish today so ride it

[night flicker]

aka me changing my name to Pride

I know its greed but I was too proud to let it go lol

[wraith wharf]

Ill start keeping an eye on CL, it does look pretty good to start trading.

[night flicker]

yeah and risking 1 contract isn't a big deal

its 10$ per tick but the trades are kinda small

but my friend says that ICT doesn't work as much on CL even though all the setups I see on it are typically a win lol

(he doesn't really get ICT atm)

[wraith wharf]

It looks like its working out pretty well to me. The only thing Id say is that news would affect it differently.

[cloud cipher]

im still trying to figure out what your initial setup is @night flicker

is it a MSS after an OB?

or any MSS?

or an MSS towards an OB?

[night flicker]

yeah CL is more affected by news

I mean.. common news

[night flicker]

oh nice didn't notice that lol

[night flicker]

I mean.. it is kinda combined

what I always look for a good liquidity sweep, it can sweep a small low like CL did today but since CL was bullish and was a bit slow it was worth taking

but once I get a good setup I ALWAYS need MSS + FVG

[cloud cipher]

cool

[covert plaza]

I am not sure if it is a right question to ask! Are there folks using apex PA accounts to consistently trade and profit? Today I reached target for my 9 50k account, I have done it many times but I screw up PA accounts later.

[wraith wharf]

Just assuming here but your over leveraging on your PAs, just because its a "funded" account doesnt mean you should yolo.
Otherwise the psychology shouldnt change much

[covert plaza]

Totally

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[night flicker]

adding up to what Forseti said, maybe it would be best for you to when you move to PA to buy another eval account and trade on that and use copier for others.. it may make you think the same as you did with the eval accounts

[summer trout]

You're using the ICT strat? I'm still learning.

[night flicker]

there is no ICT strat actually, ICT basically created many concepts that you can use

one of the concept combos is liq sweep + MSS + FVG

[night flicker]

my target was hit lmaoo

[plain dove]

Google discord timestamp

[west egret]

https://github.com/thbr21ab/webhook-tradingview

Here is how to Webhook and auto smart trail and OG works

ran it yesterday it did a great start, fresh 25k account went up 1000 USD profit, then an error with my pine script occurred so it entered a double contract, the profit so went up to around 1800 USD but did not hit tp, a reversal happened and it hit SL. Then sadly hit two new SL, and my acc auto-liquidated. Trying to implement a good and fast way for it to always adjust to the correct SL as this would have not killed the account. But fun to see that it works, just need to build a better ATM strategy and do some small fixes. Use at your own risk ofc try it out with a Sim account and see if it works. Just DM me if any support is needed or if anyone has any good ideas or feedback.

Here is a short video just to show how it works. Quite simple stuff here but let's see how far and good we can make this 😉

It's not perfect yet, still working and will update as I go forward with it. Many have asked for help and how it works so thought I would share even though am not done.

[young pelican]

Thanks @west egret. Will take a look at it.

[cloud cipher]

The best way to run it, in my opinion, would be to have it set to only trigger your entry webhook once (in the TV alert settings) and your exit (either TP or SL) only if an active position is found.

That way it requires you to “reset it” and turn the entry alert back on after each entry

So not fully auto - but the key advantage is entering immediately on the tap

[west egret]

Thats a good idea, will make the entries fast, and then just can adjust and so on yourself. Thanks for feedback! 🙂

[cloud cipher]

Also, you could make it only enter if there is no other position open

So if you get back to back taps a few min apart you won’t enter multiple times or worse yet get your trades out of sync in NT

So on your entry criteria add:
strategy.position_size = 0

That will make sure you only enter if no other position is already open

And then add to your exit criteria:

strategy.position_size != 0

Which means it only sends the exit alert if a position is found to be open

[plain dove]

Maybe add the pinescript to the repo as well

[clear cedar]

would anyone be willing to share the line of code needed to access the Smart Trail data from the data window. in pine script? I appreciate in advance 🙂

[toxic widget]

you access data by using one of the two options below:
"{{plot_n}}", where n is the corresponsing index of Smart Trail
or
"{{plot("Smart Trail")}}"

if you want to address it by variable name

bear in mind only plots 0 to 19 are available, that's just first 20 plots of the indicator

good luck

[barren lintel]

Damn. Alerts going off because session lows getting taken. But news. 😕

[plain dove]

Use input.source and then select the trail in the settings of the indicator

[hearty rivet]

High taken

Low+

[stable talon]

ANYBODY KNOW HOT TO SET UP?

[hearty rivet]

Another low taken

[barren lintel]

lol damn. i think im just gonna go make some breakfast and wait it out

more news in a hour

[cunning gull]

LEGGO!!!

What’s the news?

[west egret]

Its both there

[west egret]

Tried to explain simple, dm me if you need help on any of the steps

[night flicker]

er are going for Friday low

[fair stag]

@hearty rivet bro please make one video about ICT order block

[night flicker]

silver bullet?

[fierce hatch]

Thx I am going to look at the code now..

[hearty rivet]

Sure

[night flicker]

@wraith wharf you watching CL?

[cloud cipher]

so - exploring the silver bullet idea

it says at 10am mark two recent lines of liquidity....which iever done...though looking at my screenshot the bottom might should have been a bit lower as it dropped more after that line was made....either way...it sweeps downward

it makes a MSS upwards

but no FVG

so i know that is not an entry

at this point do i wait for a BOS with a FVG, or just a FVG itself or is the whole play shot ?

sorry - im an idiot

i was on 30 second chart LOL

but for future reference - the question and logic is still valid

[fair stag]

NQ looks promising

1M

[night flicker]

not yet lol

that FVG is iffy

[fair stag]

its seems big one

[night flicker]

but price never left it

it might be a winner

but I don't like it

oh nvm

its a good trade

[fair stag]

you want bifg green candle?

[night flicker]

if entry on the .5 of the FVG

[fair stag]

piercing through fvg

[night flicker]

nope

the problem with this FVG is that it was created and all the candles touched it

[fair stag]

yes, all candle body

[night flicker]

yeah night skip this one

[fallow cedar]

this is looking nice! would it be possible to add the alert conditions if we want to send separate messages? would really love that!!!

[night flicker]

nvm took it lol

a small traade though

damn I FOMO into that ffs

gonna give it sometime to move

[cloud cipher]

ok is this Silver bullet setup correct?

10am hit, i identified a high and low liquidity. it swept the low

it reversed, got the MSS, and a FVG

entered on the FVG with SL being just a tick past the low on the sweep and the TP being the other side of liquidity

with the half way mark set to cut some possibly since its a big SL

[night flicker]

usually silver bullet is used on the 5m

keep that in mind

[cloud cipher]

thanks

[night flicker]

from what I've seen at least

[cloud cipher]

ive been watching a dude on youtube who seems really good and he says he usually does it on the 1min.
im not saying hes right by any means...just why i was using the 1 min instead of the 5 here . (Ethan Garland, "Garland Trader" on youtube is who i am referring to)

but timeframe aside

is the concepts i stated correct?

honestly looking at the 5min chart i dont knoiw that there would be enough "movement' in the 1 hr timeframe to allow something to sweep and then come back all within the hour required - which may be why he does the 1 min

[night flicker]

I think so

[west berry]

My thoughts as well

Maybe 3 min

[cloud cipher]

https://youtu.be/jo3JxN4hvzM

Video i was watching - NOT endorsing it - just showing my reference.

[night flicker]

I think this should be the best trade here

I took it higher and placed a tight SL because I still don't like it

[cloud cipher]

yeah, i enterd 15163

basically the pullback to the FVG

[night flicker]

damn

too high imo

but let it run

[cloud cipher]

i am just testing it though, trying to follow his suggestions. im not a fan of the size of the SL though, so i adjusted my contracts to match my risk.

2 micros puts me right at -200 if it goes all the way to the bottom of the low and taps out

ive become more and more into forward testing, and just adjusting my cons based on how much im willing to risk on the test

[night flicker]

ohh nice

[cloud cipher]

i agree this whole CHoCH was really high in relation to where the bottom is...so only a few cons

[stable talon]

dont know hot to set up the signal in TV becuase i open it as nothing shows

[cloud cipher]

he also does something almost identical to luke too....he takes the midnight to 830 am times though instead of session times and markes the high and lows and then from there basically does what luke does. but again on the 1 min

[night flicker]

not only that, it created a lower high and the higher low before giving us a good MSS

but that bottom seems like a good sweep

THOUGH we might just see it retest it

[cloud cipher]

yeah that why my stop is just a bit past

in case it retests and has a random wick

i mean only one way to find out, right?

let er ride 🙂

[night flicker]

the microecnomic atm is trash

stocks should go down

even though it already did it should go even lower

[cloud cipher]

thats the beauty of these eval/funded accounts. i can enter a trade, go down 200 bucks....but not be out a true 200 bucks LOL

so much more willing to forward test things instead of just sitting on the sidelines

the psychology is much more accurate compared to just watching.

even if the "evals" are just sim accounts

[night flicker]

CL gave a great small liq sweep trade

I took it partially and got out because I don't like the charts atm

but it was a valid trade

the zone at the bottom is the sweep

[cloud cipher]

yeah the setup i was describing earlier based on the 00:00-830 high and low got trashed on the opening ranging

it was working nicely

had a good sweep of the low, gave a nice clean MSS and FVG post 830

and then 930 hit...BAM

all the way down lol

which i will say is why the silver bullet timeframe is interesting and i think useful...because it lets the market figure out what its doing

so you can figure out the high and lows that are established during that 930-10a timeframe

and the market has started to settle

and then once you hit one of these extremes you are playing the return back the other way

[night flicker]

oh..

also something you need to notice

ICT was basically built for forex

not ICT.. more like Silver Bullet

so for f utures we need to adjust it

if you want you can trade forex futures

[fair stag]

yes, bro I have good success in fx than futures

[night flicker]

look at forex chart and enter on a future contract

[fair stag]

which prop firm has fx futures instrument?

[night flicker]

everyone

I mean..

al futures prop firms

[fair stag]

tq. I will take a look

[night flicker]

https://apextraderfunding.com

scroll to the bottom of the page

[fair stag]

Top step?

[night flicker]

those are the tickes

JESUSSSS

[fair stag]

Topstep has weekly payout

[night flicker]

WTF just happened to CL

thats the 1s chart lmao

so now I think I would look for a long on NQ

[fair stag]

may be it miss the fvg

[cloud cipher]

yeah it came back down and grabbed stuff and now going back up

[night flicker]

took a small trade

playing it safe still

ffs

I looked too much on NQ

we had a beautiful play on CL

and NQ is interesting

it did another sweep

this is boring ngl

I want to take a short here so bad lmao

[cyan scaffold]

Hi I am just setting up an alert using this indicator but I have 2 options for SME Alert Line, how do I know which one to select?

[fallow cedar]

@cloud cipher STH is working nicely with my settings and some automation, just wanted to say thanks and great work! 👍

[wraith wharf]

Had a long night with my dog being sick. I just woke up so probably no trades for me today. I'll hop on the charts soon. Did you catch something good!?

[night flicker]

nothing good

red day for me

was a bit aggressive

didn't actually follow the rules as I should

I am done for the day

[wraith wharf]

Naughty for not following the rules. Hopefully it's not to bad.

[west berry]

Me too red day down 300 bucks

[wraith wharf]

The nightly sell off means choppy mornings. Usually until after London closes and see some sort of structure is what it looks like will happen

Looks like we're seeing some sort of retracenent back up now

[west berry]

Mss here fvg as well

[wraith wharf]

I wanna see NQ retrace back to the 200s and see what happens from there. I want to see a cleaner market before I make my trades

[exotic copper]

@wraith wharf has earned the Lux Level 2 role!

.forseti just levelled up! 🤗📈

At this point you’re considered family here at LuxAlgo. We are so glad to have you engaging with other members 🤗❤️ Keep it up & you might just earn something special ;)

[zenith crown]

hey bro im trying to replicate the steps, do you have a video for step 2 to step 6 perhaps?

[west egret]

can make a video tomorrow

[zenith crown]

thanks!!

[cloud cipher]

@night flicker

[west berry]

Luke Strat working out fine

[cloud cipher]

this is the wrong type of alert

click the "..." beside the STH indicator and choose "Add Alert on STH"

@cyan scaffold

[night flicker]

NICE

told you it would retest that low

we also had this trade

that was the last trade I took and I was all over the place so closed with a small profit

this is an A+ trade for example

we had a few sweeps at the low

then a good MSS + displacement

FVG created on MSS si it's ok (we also had a small OB on my sl)

here is the better entry

one thing I need to follow more strictly is, if the price didn't actually leave the FVG I don't enter

so what happens many times is, we get an FVG and the next candle enteres it and you go for a loss

with a strong FVG the price should move away from it kinda quickly

[wraith wharf]

We slipped past the 1D FVG and now in a 15m bearish FVG. I want to see if we reject this 15m and we continue lower or we continue our bullish run back to the highs

[cunning gull]

are we taking this FVG back down?

on the 15m

[wraith wharf]

No. Im seeing how its reacting then going to decide if its worth it. Otherwise it looks like we keep retracing back up

Besides after all that news price is going to move slow till after lunch

[wraith wharf]

This was the only best trade so far.
We have a bunch of bearish PD arrays above us that price might want to continue to go through. Ya know that slow grind up

[cloud cipher]

so one thing im pondering here.....and im not saying its right...but hear me out....on my 1min silver bullet i was taking the swep of recent liquidity prior to 10am (which we know that implies basically that opening 30min).
then once it was swept im looking for the reversal.
His instructions when the entry came up was to set the SL at the low of the sweep and the tp the opposite side of liquidity

now...lets expand this to our 5min luke play

(again im not saying he is wrong)

just talking ideas out

instead of just the 1 hour, we are looking to play based on entire sessions, right?

i used the lux liquidity swings indicator

it nailes the high and low of london

but it also shows us grabbing that bottom liqudiity on the reversal

(this is all 5min)

we have our nice setup here

shouldnt the actual SL be before the recent liquidity for the safest entry

instead of merely below the FVG

?

pulling fibs from the sweep to our low still puts us under 50 which is a good entry

[wraith wharf]

The trade happens with in a specific time slot the time your looking for in with in the 10 - 11 am NY time, look for a sweep of liquidity, MSS, and the next FVG targeting the opposite side liquidity

[cloud cipher]

my point is.....i feel like maybe for our expected TP lvels we are trying to hit, our Stop losses are too tight if we just base them on the recent FVG

[cloud cipher]

yes for the silver bullet

im taking those same ideas and applying them to luke

which uses entire sessions

not just an hour like the silver bullet

my point is...if you follow the silver bullet strategy and apply it to lukes session strategy (which is basically the same idea on a much larger time frame) the proper SL should be the low point when it starts coming back...not just the low of the FVG or a candle past that

technically it shouldnt come back past that....and i guess if you wanted a tight SL that is fine

[wraith wharf]

Yes the silver bullet is the scalp of ICT Concepts

[night flicker]

the only worthy trade today lmao

[cloud cipher]

right and all im saying is...using those same principals, and applying them to the strat we are playing with luke that is basing it on entire sessions as our liquidity sweeps and targets...our SL should be at spot 1, not spot 2.

[wraith wharf]

Correct, that gives you more wiggle room for the market to move. But to me I would have to size way down for that risk or have a tighter stop.
👍🏼

[cloud cipher]

yeah - again - im not trying to diss luke or what he has been teaching.
i am honestly new to ICT but have been deep diving on it the last week or so

but i realized today as i played the silver bullet that my SL on lukes has, technically, been waaay to tight for the actual principals of ICT

BUT....he is 100% right that technically it should work out

[wraith wharf]

Yeah, youll learn not every uses ICTs information the same, its all tweaked to make it for what works for them

[cloud cipher]

his ends up being super low risk for massive reward

so i totally get why he does it

but i didnt realize until recently that it was kind of a twist on the original ict stuff

[wraith wharf]

Correct, plenty of other people do it a little differently too.

[cloud cipher]

yeah 🙂 just sharing what i learned

[wraith wharf]

Your doing great!

[cloud cipher]

and i would think if we had got our MSS about half way lower, the Low of the day would be the ideal SL

but at this point, we are almost 50% mark out the gate...so the low is really far away

so a tighter SL (like how luke plays) might be better

and instead of going all the way over to the other side maybe set a half way there TP

[night flicker]

yeah but you do need to remember that ICT are concepts, like SMC, there are many strategies and many ways to play the SL / TP

it depends on your strategy and risk tolerence

[cloud cipher]

yeah 100%

you saw what i did today for the silver bullet

i felt it was a really big SL

[wraith wharf]

Shorts kind of looking good right now

[cloud cipher]

so i adjusted my cons to = my risk

[night flicker]

yep

[cloud cipher]

because i wanted to give it that room

which would work out as a banger if it had occured a lot lower, more cons, same risk, greater reward

it basically lets you play any setup with the same risk

[wraith wharf]

@night flicker Im looking for this on the 2m

[night flicker]

might join this trade

[wraith wharf]

Im going in 5 micros. Low size, because I still think the draw might be higher and we could have just been faked out. Well see

[night flicker]

hmm

[wraith wharf]

Bounced off 15m FVG

[night flicker]

the problem is that I don't like entering at these hours

[wraith wharf]

Me either

[night flicker]

yep

thats a problem

meh

I will skip this actually

[wraith wharf]

Yeah I havent entered yet, its ripping

Yeah, thats good risk management technicals lol

[cloud cipher]

check this out

if you played 130-230 as a "silver bullet afternoon" and you used a recent liquidity from 1-130

it swept down and made the mss down as it swept down

there was a very small level generated of a lower low and then a higher high that made your choch mark to break when coming back up

it actually had a very small FVG at the same time as it came back up to it

so that would have been your entry

and bang

to the other side

[wraith wharf]

Friday should be slightly better. Same amount of news just at the same time. Well see this week is probably going to be breakeven for me

[hearty rivet]

Yo guys

finally on my laptop

did anyone take todays long

[wraith wharf]

Missed it, all good though

[hearty rivet]

we took 3 Session LOWS

grabbed it but instead of holding i got out at the MSS lmao

took my own micro MSS as beautiful discplaments

we also had inverse FVG

[cloud cipher]

if we are in a play....lets say bullish....and there is then a bearish CHoCH after we are in

do we get out

or just ride it out?

[hearty rivet]

and a reversal this aggressive after 3 lows taken i went in

[cloud cipher]

like i am IN profit (a little)....but then an opposite CHoCH

[hearty rivet]

i wish i didnt set TP limit order

[cloud cipher]

is it best to cut it short and take the profit

[hearty rivet]

Nope

[cloud cipher]

or do we hold for the original order

[hearty rivet]

only if opposite liquidity H/L is taken

[cloud cipher]

which at that point would be our SL anyways most likely

[hearty rivet]

Choch/MSS without liquidity is just a continuation of a move

[cloud cipher]

oh actually....it would not mean a sl

[hearty rivet]

you see

[cloud cipher]

if our SL was way lower than liquidity

[hearty rivet]

the beauty of these setups is you can catch the whole move

not just a few ticks

never move your stop loss before partial

i once was 100 ticks in profit, but i didnt move my sl or take partial, the price went so close to my stop loss then dropped 400 ticks more

the price has no reason to come back to that area

[cloud cipher]

so here is my setup

i had a liqudiity drawn

it swept above

came back...got the CHoCH bearish with the FVG

i entered...it went down...but now has a green CHoCH

im concerned that the blue circle should have been my lower liquidiy instead of the way down low

[hearty rivet]

idk what you used for liquidity

but you ignore the green choch

in fact hence why i have 2 ICT concepts indicator open

[cloud cipher]

afternoon Silver Bullet session

[hearty rivet]

when bearish i turn off the bullish one

[cloud cipher]

silver bullet afternoon is 2p-3p

so i based liquidity off of afternoon NY Session H L between 1p-2p

[hearty rivet]

only liq i trust is Sessions high low because its easiest way for Algos to be coded as

second liq i trust is equal highs or equal lows

i dont see either in that pic

[cloud cipher]

which i actually had in that blue circle

[hearty rivet]

really?

oh nice

[hearty rivet]

those are sellside liq

[cloud cipher]

so that should have been my target then i guess

[hearty rivet]

so you should be longing not shorting

[cloud cipher]

i entered on the top sweep though

yeah i missed my exit is what im saying lol

but i see what you are saying too

[hearty rivet]

oh

[cloud cipher]

i technically swetp up, but came down

[hearty rivet]

you entered a short

[cloud cipher]

swept bottom

[hearty rivet]

and price reached sellside liq but you didnt exit?

stick to liq formed by Sesssion high and low only

those equal lows and highs require alot of experience

[cloud cipher]

i established my liquidity based on the high and low of the timeframe 1p-2p

that is the yellow lines

silver bullet afternoon is 2p-3p

so i swept the top

[hearty rivet]

they require you to look at overall intraday bias or higher tf bias

aka sessions high or low or daily fvg or daily power of 3

[night flicker]

If you want to use ICT not on sessions but in-between sessions it is the same concept but different highs / lows, when you sweep the high you look for a short and when you sweep the low you look for a long

Also, it isn’t an actual sweep if it doesn’t break the high / low

[cloud cipher]

correct

that is what i did

[hearty rivet]

exactly, on my youtube i show how to use lux algo buyside sellside liq as a sweep for trades

[night flicker]

You can basically use my trades for examples

[night flicker]

Or Lukes videos

[hearty rivet]

heheh

[night flicker]

Thats where I started basically and then Like and Forseti explained more here

[night flicker]

Yeah but you went for a short

[hearty rivet]

reason why we use session high or low and it works most of the time

[cloud cipher]

i was uppose to

[night flicker]

But that high wasn’t swept

[hearty rivet]

is because 90% of retails put their stop losses there

[cloud cipher]

how was it not swept

my H and L is the yellow lines

it moved way past the high

[night flicker]

Sessions sweeps are stronger and are runners way more

[cloud cipher]

came back

[wraith wharf]

Good ol fake outs lol. Those internal sell sides liquidity

[hearty rivet]

exactly

[wraith wharf]

Almost got fake out earlier

[hearty rivet]

using equal lows and highs like in the pic air sent is good way to scalp but requires 1m and the setup must be on point to the dot

i wouldnt use such lows or highs

you can use

[cloud cipher]

i am on 1 min

Liquidity established first hour of afternoon session

then from 2-3p is entry timeframe

[hearty rivet]

use this in the indicator

it shows you which equal or relatively equal highs and lows you can use

we swept the orange buyside liq

formed mss and went down 100 ticks in 4-5 min

[hearty rivet]

this is the strongest most consistent indicator on TV

[cloud cipher]

so my sellside is way the heck down there

[hearty rivet]

yep

you see sellside liq got swept

we formed bullish mss and fvg which got filled and price rushed up (mss and fvg isnt shown)

[wraith wharf]

@cloud cipher looks like Lux fixed the Silver Bullet, maybe want to check out their changes 🙂

Also a lot of times on big news days you see retracenents either to 50% or it recovers all of the move.
Not everytime but seeing how market structure forms you can base a bias on that too after looking at higher time frames. I like to start with the Daily - 4hr - 1hr - 15m - 5m & 1m for entries

[cloud cipher]

thanks

[cloud cipher]

was it not working right?

i thought i just didnt know how to use it LOL

[wraith wharf]

It was acting funky for sure. I haven't checked out the fixes yet myself though

[copper nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-gross-disgusting-oh-no-yuck-gif-20454736

[earnest idol]

which indicator exactly is this one please? @hearty rivet

[wraith wharf]

That's ICT concepts by Lux

[earnest idol]

this one then @wraith wharf ?

thanks for the help

[wraith wharf]

That's the one

[hearty rivet]

yh

[night flicker]

Key randomly comes to tell us the market is fucked and dips

[lunar shell]

I can’t tell from the chat, which indicator are you finding is the strongest, most consistent?

[hearty rivet]

@lunar shell

[lunar shell]

I can’t see your response? Maybe I’m missing it somehow?

[wraith wharf]

ICT Concepts by Lux

[hearty rivet]

ICT CONCEPTS INDCIATOR. By Lux algo

It’s free

@lunar shell

[upbeat schooner]

[shell elk]

Does anybody know a copier that works with tradingview?

[west berry]

Non that I know of presently

[clear cedar]

Thanks team for all of the MSS/ICT help got a good one this am

[cloud cipher]

Stupid question - do we start looking for the London sweep at 8a or 930a?

[west berry]

In what Strat sliver bullet or just luke Strat

[cloud cipher]

Valid question based on my chat yesterday. I’m asking about Luke

[west berry]

I think it’s whenever it happens during ny am but you would want it to happen before algo sleeps around 12 or 1 my thoughts because volume slows down around that time

[cunning gull]

Crazy RIP

sub seconds

[cloud cipher]

Yep

I guess that is London high broken lol

[west berry]

Yeah and we took yesterday ny am as well

Heading into a buy side liquidity

This rip is crazy

[cunning gull]

Which means we should expect a downtorn?

[west berry]

Yes right now we looking for downside two session highs taking so downturn is what we are looking for per the Strat

But don’t forget news

[cunning gull]

What's the link for the news?

[night flicker]

Pump?

[west berry]

News

[night flicker]

Did it pump?

[west berry]

Forexfactory.com

[plain dove]

https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar

[cloud cipher]

Guess that explains it lol

[west berry]

Yeap news

[west berry]

Yeah

[cloud cipher]

Still counts though, right?

Even if it was broken due to news

[night flicker]

lmao

[cloud cipher]

Even the one second chart was impressively abrupt lol

[night flicker]

when I saw that we had fewer jopbsd added that expected a pump was the only option

a more jobs added was already priced in with the down move

since unemployment went down by 0.1

but it might die here

[cunning gull]

backd own we go

[west berry]

Buy side liquidity held

[cloud cipher]

Is my idea that the market is pumping to try and compensate for a failing market? Almost like a divergence to reality, and at some point the market will start actually reflecting realty and it will hit hard?

[night flicker]

I mean.. it is already known that we will have interest rates hike soon

I think the fear is if the economy will reflect bad numbers (lower unemployment more jobs added and more inflation) then the rate hike will be more than expected

[cunning gull]

MKT said HELL NO...back to the beginning

[night flicker]

so now we are just playing the numbers

[west berry]

Lol 😂

[cunning gull]

back at ZERO

[night flicker]

yep

[west berry]

Looks like it went for that liquidity lol 😂

[night flicker]

we sweeped the strong high with strong liquidity and went down

could've shorted it but n ot worth risking a trade here lmao

[west berry]

Yes not worth it

[night flicker]

but according to my liq sweep strat it was a valid entry for a short

[clear cedar]

🎢 morning

[night flicker]

gm

[clear cedar]

What a crazy 15 min

[exotic copper]

@clear cedar has earned the Lux Level 1 role!

chainzaws just levelled up! 🍪

Welcome to LuxAlgo Level 1! Here is a cookie for contributing into the LuxAlgo community. Keep it up & thank you for being with us! <3

[autumn thistle]

hit the overnight high to a T. Had a nice bearish candle.... gotta do it

[cunning gull]

FVG at 260

NQ

[west berry]

I just need a nice market structure to form and break for a nice move

[clear cedar]

Going to hold off till 10 to enter already had a great am at 345 entry

[west berry]

I think we have news at 10 also

[clear cedar]

We do

And 2pm also

[potent grail]

hello, can you please help me with indicator, its not working

[cloud cipher]

ok question on discount and premium. the videos i have seen show how there is a mss formed, and then price keeps going for awhile, and then eventually pulls back to your FVG.
they measure their discount and premium based on the edge of the swing all the way up until it starts coming back for the FVG.

but what happens if it doesnt go that far up before it pulls back. we see many plays where it makes the mss and then the very next candle makes the fvg and then the candle after that pulls back to it. those are super close to the mss...so they are usually no where near the discount zone

[night flicker]

price doesn't always go for the discount

[cloud cipher]

yeah a lot of times we see something like this

[night flicker]

we had many entries at an FVG WAY above the discount or even the 0.5 line

[cloud cipher]

yeah i agree

that is what confused me

[night flicker]

oh wait

draw a fib from 2 to 3

not from 0 to 3

[cloud cipher]

.

i just feel like every example i see shows the price going wayyyy above the fvg then coming back

like this

which is not what happens a lot of the time on our entries when a fvg occures right around the CHoCH/MSS

[night flicker]

yeah

I think this is for higher timeframes

and for longer trades

[cloud cipher]

i gotcha

[night flicker]

thats how it feels at least

because many times the discount and premium areas are drawn from day high to day low and such things

[west berry]

This likes to play out on the 15min seen it numerous times the fvg always works

[cloud cipher]

it would be nice if we break london high again

i know we already liquidated it

but if we can go back up we can be sure it was a true liquidation LOL

gonna go back for that FVG anyways

so if london low gets broken, do we then shift and start looking for bullish instead of bearish?

[west berry]

For me I like to wait for ny pm if I see that we did not move so much during London session

Or if we take out previous session high and lows in a very short movement

[cloud cipher]

yeah that makes sense

and we actually made it all the way over to the other side

so at this point there is nowhere to go if we did get a bearish MSS

the play has already happened withhout it

so i guess at this point we either sweep london low or wait until PM

[west berry]

Yeah that would be the best thing to do

[cloud cipher]

interestingly enough - and maybe a complimentary strategy to Lukes....i was watching more of the ethan garland videos (the one who trades on the 1 min with a similar strategy) and he almost always uses 00.00-830 but happened to mention last night in a video that "this works on anything, but if you are using indicies look for the high or low of 00.00 to 930 instead of 830. 830 is fine on forex though (which is what he does his examples on)

so basically he pointed out london timeframe

but because of it being a 1 min strategy he is looking to include that opening 930 time

his strategy is basically identical. at 930 mark the high and low, when it sweeps that, look for the reversal just like we do on the 5min

but his TP a RR is a 1:2

which makes sense on the 1 min

his SL is the bottom of the sweep where it reverses, then his TP is the 1:2 of that based on entry

so its likely an earlier entry (which means SL is closer to the edge) and the TP is smaller than the 5min, which also makes sense

[west berry]

Would this work on futures

[cloud cipher]

yeah, sorry, that was my main point of all that text.
I have watched his strategies, they are really solid, but that was the first one where he mentioned if you are not using forex to use 930 instead of 830

i used 830 yesterday and lost because of the opening range at 930.
so last night when he said that i was like dang dude....that seems like an important thing to point out in EVERY video you do lol

[west berry]

Oh have you back tested it to see

I love Luke’s strat a lot as well my major problem with it is entry point sometimes we get a pull back into the fvg and sometimes prices just keeps going and never come back to fill the fvg

[cloud cipher]

yeah

im kind of setting myself up to run both

without even backtesting, knowing that the sweeps are very similar and the pullback is similar, his 1 min strategy with the much smaller distance of TP made a lot of sense

because if you swept, and then you have a true MSS reversal....you should easily be able to make 1:2 on the 1 min after the reversal happens

at least most days

because on the 5min sometimes we are back part way across the chart before the mss really happens

BOTH seem good

im actually looking at running both

like right now im either waiting for the current high to be broken (since it was set prior to 930) for ethans 1 min play
or the london low for both the 5min and the 1 min

[tired plume]

is it just me or does the smart trail on MES (and ES, i presume) look CRAZY this AM? like from around 9AM to now it swung super inverse to price?

[cloud cipher]

im assuming its because of that massive spike we had

in relation to the prior movement

flat flat big activity

its jacked the calcualtions up for the smart trail

but its coming back to reality now

but you are right, ive not really seen it that divergent before

[tired plume]

crazy right?

[barren lintel]

whats up with this pa

[west berry]

Lol 😂 chopzilla that’s what’s up

[potent grail]

my indicator is not working, please help

[toxic widget]

today was a day of hedging everywhere

they all exchanged assets for Gold

or money

hard to find good trades around with so much liquidity moving in and out

but the main idea is pretty clear now

euro and sterling taking over the almighty dollar

a good day for FX guys

[cloud cipher]

it came so close to sweeping the bottom

and then it would have been a great play up

like a few more ticks is all we needed

[west berry]

The sell side liquidity it took it and it won’t let it break the session so we ripped back up

[fair stag]

@hearty rivet there?

[hearty rivet]

Hey bro

[hearty rivet]

Yeah

[fair stag]

Please try to make video about ICT block and buy and sell side liqudity this weekend

also about placing SL

[cloud cipher]

so.....do we have to sweep again post 1pm

[west berry]

Yes if we close in between ny am

Generally we look for a sweep after each session

[cloud cipher]

yeah i know

i was kinda being sarcastic

[west berry]

Lol 😂

[cloud cipher]

as the last 30 min have destroyed the previous high

[west berry]

Would make more sense if we can sweep yesterday London session in ny pm would look for a short

[wraith wharf]

Sometimes sweeps and reversals dont happen, so follow market structure

[west berry]

Meant on es

Oh damn es swept another highs lol 😂

[warm coral]

Hi , please does anyone make use of the premium zones here? what do you do when you get a strong buy signal in the premium zone? both on say 5 and 15min timeframe. Thank you

[cloud cipher]

1min

that would be a pretty sweet setup for a smart trail tap lol

[west berry]

Because of the fvg

Nq and es both took ny am hopefully market setup for a nice short

Or we might just grind up till close

[cloud cipher]

i swear we have to drop back down

this is nuts

[wraith wharf]

Sometimes we don't lol. I still think the draw on liquidity is higher

[west berry]

lol 440 on nq lol 😂

[wraith wharf]

Sorry I was talking about ES haven't looked at NQ yet

Probably the same though

[west berry]

Oh okay

[wraith wharf]

Let me see if I can snipe @copper nexus correlation chart?

I also wouldn't buy at the top. Here's my TA on ES, no notes or anything but it looks like it wants that red box at the top

[west berry]

Nice I have my eyes there as well

[arctic wolf]

so the monday high?

[wraith wharf]

I threw my fib on the previous day. Then I boxed the OB on the daily TF from close to bottom of wick, which is that red box

On my phone right now this autocorrect is nuts

Market does what it wants but we'll see if my TA is right

[warm coral]

Thank you!

[hearty rivet]

I’m in boys

Wish me luck on NQ

OUT

Wanted to hold but I just passed this account thank god ahaha

[toxic widget]

Lukeeeee

good luck

[toxic widget]

fast in fast out, ninja style

[hearty rivet]

Thank you Akerrrr

Yeah I was 30$ away from passing made 125 instead

I don’t Ninja style anyone more haha but even if I get 10k passing is enough

[toxic widget]

no ninja? jokes aside, today was a good day for trading, if patient enough with the first 2-3 hrs on NY session

managed to miss all entries, when confluences aligned

I was either talking on the phone or writing reports

[hearty rivet]

Haha same !

Actual entry I missed

[toxic widget]

mine were all longs lol

[hearty rivet]

But got in at second entry

We swept session high of NY AM then formed MSS and beautiful displacement with fat FVG

[toxic widget]

4pm my time was the best time to start the longs

for really good profits on Nasdaq, SP, DE

[hearty rivet]

Beauty

[toxic widget]

and a pretty nice short on Gold, around same time

4 guaranteed wins today

considering the mess almighty dollar is in

[hearty rivet]

I passed this account

[toxic widget]

well done

[hearty rivet]

With 3 trades on 50k account

1400$

1500$

And 125$ now

[hearty rivet]

Yeah what happened with gold lol

Thanks friend!

[toxic widget]

the logic of today was pretty simple

everybody hedged using Gold today

[hearty rivet]

So bought gold?

[toxic widget]

then returned to normal after a few hours

[hearty rivet]

Or short

[toxic widget]

just check charts and you will notice the pattern

[hearty rivet]

Makes sense though

It’s summer people exchanged their gold to fiat

[toxic widget]

macro data came at noon, they all messed up traders in both directions, while hedging on the gold

[hearty rivet]

Damn lol

[toxic widget]

indices went up and down liquidating everyone, dollar took a nasty fall and hedge was on Gold

[hearty rivet]

didn’t watch any macro

[toxic widget]

which spiked like crazy

[hearty rivet]

I set a alert once I get I check if we got red box news if not I take the entry

[toxic widget]

then normality came back, and indices continued to the upside, as expected

[hearty rivet]

so will go gold go down or it’s back normal

[hearty rivet]

Answered

Aha crazy

[toxic widget]

pretty sure there's nothing to hedge now, day is almost over 😛

[hearty rivet]

[toxic widget]

it was fun to watch, never seen this in front of my eyes

[hearty rivet]

Aker buy an apex account

[toxic widget]

the mechanics

[hearty rivet]

Discount ends today

90%

Cheaper than Starbucks

[toxic widget]

are they limited by time?

i.e. do this in 15 days?

[hearty rivet]

I withdrawn from my funded account so now I have to wait 15 days for next withdrawal and decided to open a second account while waiting

No limit

Do it as slow as you like

[toxic widget]

cause you know time is not my best skill lol

fire away a link

[hearty rivet]

If I can do it with my 12 hour work schedule you definitely can

https://apextraderfunding.com/member/aff/go/zainmahfoud2

Use my affiliate link

Discount code is: SAVE90

[toxic widget]

which one should I pick?

[hearty rivet]

If the sale ended use SAVE80

[toxic widget]

25k, 50k?

[hearty rivet]

Tradovate account NOT Rithmic

Their trading site is confusing

[young pelican]

its already ended yesterday..now its 80% even if we use SAVE90 code

[hearty rivet]

Tradovate allows you to trade on Tradingview

[hearty rivet]

Up to you, I suggest 50k

[toxic widget]

so scroll much lower, right?

[hearty rivet]

Yeah at very end

[toxic widget]

tradovate is below ninja

[hearty rivet]

Not a problem, instead of 16$ it will be like 19$

Yeah

You can always buy a couple

[west berry]

How many cons of nq Luke lol 😂

[hearty rivet]

And that’s how much you will ever lose in your trading life

[young pelican]

yep, i just loaded a few yesterday..

[hearty rivet]

1

[hearty rivet]

Good choice

Can keep the accounts as long as you want

[west berry]

I have 5 passing and just averaging 500 a week on the 5 is my goal

[hearty rivet]

@toxic widget watch my last videos, this is the only setup I have been using and will continue being using till my last breath god forbid

[hearty rivet]

My guy

[modest jacinth]

where is your last video Luke

[hearty rivet]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=huDzRgULMyc

[modest jacinth]

thx

[hearty rivet]

the strategy is 3rd last video. Anything after that is same strategy just a new trade taken live

[toxic widget]

now that I am just waiting for a confirmation email, what have I just done? 🙂

how do you win with this?

cause it's not trading real money, as far as I can understand

[hearty rivet]

Great job aker welcome aboard

Okay so you will get in. Few minutes if god allows a evaluation account

For 50k account you must get the balance up to 53,000$

Then they will give you real account and what you profit is yours

[toxic widget]

ok, that I understand

[hearty rivet]

Up to 12k$ profit it’s all yours

[toxic widget]

gotcha

[hearty rivet]

Then it’s 90% you 10% them

[toxic widget]

whose money I play with? 😛

[hearty rivet]

Right now simulated money

After you get funded account it’s real

[toxic widget]

seems OK, right?

[hearty rivet]

On my last video mich joined the trade live too with @west berry

I made 1k

Mich made 6.6k on 5 Accounts

[toxic widget]

you meant ... Pride 🙂

[hearty rivet]

Oh damn 33$

It was 16$ yesterday since a month aha

Still not bad

[toxic widget]

nope

[hearty rivet]

Okay pay attention to trailing limit

25k accounts have 1500$ trailing limit if reached account closes

50k has 2500$

[toxic widget]

job done

next step?

[hearty rivet]

1500$ is too small tbh but depending on your risk. In my videos I show how to restrict your limit

Great

Now check mail

They will tell you instructions and user and pass

[toxic widget]

fuuny guys saying 33.40 each month 😛

so I did not get the cheaper version lol

[hearty rivet]

Remember to follow the instructions at first time you gotta accept an Tradovate agreement which grants you live data etc

[hearty rivet]

It’s still good, usually accounts go for 25k are around 200$/montg

I’m smoking shisha rn and it costs like 20$ ish haha

Strategy is simple very consistent very good RR stress less and very low risk and repeats 2-4 a day everyday

[toxic widget]

it says username:
pass:

empty lol

[hearty rivet]

It should say account is being made

In the mail and you will get new mail in few mins max 30 min

[toxic widget]

so there's another mail

where those 2 are atually filled with real username and pass

gotcha

[hearty rivet]

Yeah

But account user and pass should show

[toxic widget]

got some emails. with account activated and shit

[hearty rivet]

Log in to apex site

You will see your login there even before account made mail arrives

Sweet

[toxic widget]

hope they don;t mind I used another name lmao

anyway, off we go

now where to?

trading?

[hearty rivet]

Yess sie

Just make sure when you get passed

On your funded account use real info

[toxic widget]

have no clue what get passed means 🙂

[hearty rivet]

So they can wire you the money

[toxic widget]

learning as we speak

[hearty rivet]

So you got a 25k

[past jungle]

💀

[hearty rivet]

Target is 26.500$

[toxic widget]

got it

[hearty rivet]

Once you reach 26500$ you pass

[toxic widget]

with no timeframe, right?

[hearty rivet]

Yep

[past jungle]

Read through the whole FAQ for your own safety plz lmao

[toxic widget]

also, what do I need NOT to do?

I mean how do I fail the test? 🙂

forgot to read that part

[hearty rivet]

Do not reach your trailing limit

Which is 1500$ so don’t reach 23500$

KEEP in mind that it’s a trailing limit

[toxic widget]

thought you meant trailing orders lol

so don;t go to 23500, if you lose

[hearty rivet]

So if you are up 500$ so at 25500$ then your limit is no longer 23500$ it’s 24000$

[toxic widget]

and reach 26500

[hearty rivet]

Yes

Once you get funded account no longer trailing limit

[toxic widget]

considering the lower limit always moves up

[hearty rivet]

Trailing liquidation let’s say

Yes

It goes when you pass

[toxic widget]

how can I ever be liquidated if I do not trade all amount?

just asking

[hearty rivet]

If you keep losing till you hit your limit

Or if you profit and then los

So say you just entered a trade and are 100$ in profit

[toxic widget]

following

[hearty rivet]

Your new limit is now 23600$

Even if that 100$ is open position

So if you reached 100$ in profit then it went back down to 0$

Your new liquidation is still 23600$

[toxic widget]

where are these limits on the screen?

here?

[hearty rivet]

Yes

But keep in mind this updates at end of day

[toxic widget]

got it

[hearty rivet]

To see live you can go on Rithmic app

[toxic widget]

and where do I set up the amount I want to trade?

[hearty rivet]

Just link your account to Tradingview

And you can trade there same with paper trading

[toxic widget]

that's the amount?

[hearty rivet]

Or that yeah

Keep it 1

[toxic widget]

so I can't type a value myself

[hearty rivet]

Just click buy or sell mkt

Click again to add another contract etc

[toxic widget]

that I know, I use ATAS and TT to trade already

[hearty rivet]

For example you want 4 contracts

[cloud cipher]

where the heck is hte 5min CHoCH?

[hearty rivet]

Click buy mkt 4x

[toxic widget]

but I don;t see restrcitions

[hearty rivet]

Yeah

[cloud cipher]

like what level do we need

[hearty rivet]

Your max is 4 contract of NQ

And 40 of micro nq

Please start with micros

One NQ is 5$ per tick

[toxic widget]

not familair with tickers names

[hearty rivet]

We approaching one

[toxic widget]

on Capital.com they're more easy

[hearty rivet]

Few ticks away but let’s see if strong aggressive displacement forms an mss

NQU3 for NQ

MNQU3 for micro nq

[toxic widget]

what I just said 🙂

[hearty rivet]

ESU3 for ES

MESU3 for micro es

You like CL

I think it’s CLU3 for it

[toxic widget]

i like to trade Nasdaq, SP500 and DE40

[hearty rivet]

U stands for September contract which is current contract

[hearty rivet]

Yep

Tickers wrote above

[toxic widget]

made the note already

can I save them somewhere? don;t need the rest?

like a shortlist to access faster

[hearty rivet]

Yes

Above ASK price

Is a + button

Add any ticker you want

[toxic widget]

found it

[hearty rivet]

Remove all

Add the 4 above

You can click on which one you wanna trade easily

[toxic widget]

done

can;lt find my Germany index lol

[hearty rivet]

Close all goes unecessart stuff

Keep only PNL

[past jungle]

https://support.apextraderfunding.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404866639131-What-Instruments-can-I-trade-

[hearty rivet]

Like in my video

Link your account to TV

Easier to trade there at start

[toxic widget]

enough for today lol

[hearty rivet]

But fastest executions ever on tradovate

[toxic widget]

if I can link to TV, all good

[hearty rivet]

Yeah

[toxic widget]

not looking for some fast execution

I trade differently lol

[hearty rivet]

Make sure to allow it on Tradovate on SETTINGS’s I think ADDONS

[austere viper]

FYI, DAX trades in Eurex, which would be another data feed outside of what APEX would provide

[toxic widget]

so not good

[hearty rivet]

I mean even with limit order

[toxic widget]

stick to both indcies

[hearty rivet]

There is a millisecond of delay

[toxic widget]

thanks CBOT

[hearty rivet]

You can trade futures and options on apex

[toxic widget]

last question: where are the settings? 🙂

general settings I mean, cause I see settings in each window

[hearty rivet]

I’m not on laptop so I can’t help on that

Yeah close all

Keep accounts tab only and inside of it dollar open and dollar total PNL

one of the fellows can help ya I’m not near laptop and on phone it’s different AI’I

UI*

[toxic widget]

no rush, like I said

[hearty rivet]

We about to form MSS

Yeah

I’d not answered by time I’m on I’ll show you

[toxic widget]

I don;t trade end of day, despite what any MSS might say 🙂

nice interface, I must say that

[hearty rivet]

After taking session liquidity an MSs becomes valid in our strat if it forms fvg behind it aggressively

But yeah

Powe hour finished so Monday it is

[hearty rivet]

It’s beautiful trading station

Almost instant execution

[toxic widget]

nice

KYC in place for live account, right?

don;t trust software with no KYC lol

talk again on Monday

thanks for the help, guys

[hearty rivet]

Yeah to withdraw you enter your real details and sign an agreement

Only valid details will be able to get wired bank payment

[toxic widget]

good enough

[hearty rivet]

No problem bro, glad to be of help after all the blood tears and sweat of help you gave us over the years, oh and for the beautiful off-spring as well

[wraith wharf]

You guys had a kid together?

[toxic widget]

he's chasing mine now and then

[wraith wharf]

[toxic widget]

they seem to have the same age 🙂

[hearty rivet]

She is miss international though

Can’t get a hold of her

[toxic widget]

guess which one :)))

picture from today lol

now you know

enjoy your weekend people, see you again on Monday

[cloud cipher]

pushing through our next area of previous support

[cloud cipher]

that was awesome

[hearty rivet]

Oh my god. The ones on left look young, so she’s the one on right.

Wish I held the trade ahaha was gonna if it didn’t reach target but thank god for target hit

MSs is formed

You guys should learn how to draw your own MSS

[west berry]

No way I missed nq 5min short no no no

[hearty rivet]

We just took a low