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[hearty rivet]

unless it reaches top fvg

[west berry]

Let’s go nq die

[hearty rivet]

then small risk huuuuggeee play

[night flicker]

186

yeah I skip NQ

not worth risking this

especially with the small volatility atm

[west berry]

Quick scalp

[night flicker]

it will TP not sure when though

[hearty rivet]

rn the algos

are building a move

you see how its small and single directional

[night flicker]

its still on the 50 line fib

we broke the pattern of hiher wicks

[hearty rivet]

exactly

rejecting 0.5 very good

i smell a squeeze

cant tell which direction

[hearty rivet]

yah

[west berry]

It better be a down side move lol

[hearty rivet]

yes baby

[night flicker]

GREEN!!!!!!

[west berry]

Yaaaaaaaaaas nq squezzzer

[hearty rivet]

lets go

[night flicker]

[hearty rivet]

god is great

lets go

[night flicker]

25$ lfg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we rich bitch!

[hearty rivet]

$50!!

paid for my shsiha

XD

[night flicker]

FREE SMOKE

[hearty rivet]

at least our bias was correct

[night flicker]

[hearty rivet]

we break this trendline we mooning down

come on

or it can bounce here

yes we below it thank god

[night flicker]

the hype on the 75$ profit goal lmaooo

its funny to me

[night flicker]

2 NQ?

[hearty rivet]

take a partial

[hearty rivet]

lmaoo

[cunning gull]

Fancy with the 2 contracts

I see you're not trading the micros 😉

[hearty rivet]

NQ

made 150 ticks rfrom the fvg

ES is so slow

told you either bounce or drop hard from this trendline

[night flicker]

entered short on NQ

[cloud cipher]

still in my original ES

lol

[night flicker]

damn lol

[hearty rivet]

we jinxed it

[night flicker]

ok fuck it

[hearty rivet]

was gonna close as soon as it went above trendline

[night flicker]

I think I let it run

be back soon

[hearty rivet]

but i thought i waitd over an hour

[west berry]

Yooooo lol from 1000 to 500 damn

[hearty rivet]

im not gonna let it go to waist

[hearty rivet]

told you close a partial bro

[cloud cipher]

if we dont get stopped out here....im going to get out if i get a hundred or so green again

just to be done lol

[hearty rivet]

$1k should be max tp for you

[west berry]

Yeah

[cloud cipher]

this should be a red candle

[hearty rivet]

BE again

3rd time charm

[cloud cipher]

if this candle ends up green we will likely be going back to the FVG

[hearty rivet]

god is big

may god bless us all

[night flicker]

lmaoo

I entered 1 contra on NQ

[hearty rivet]

a close below this trendline

[night flicker]

so I added 4 more higher up

[cloud cipher]

2 OBS on ES 1 min to break before we get to 4402

but at least down trend showing on 1 min ES now

[night flicker]

yellow like is where I was supposed to enter

[cloud cipher]

dont feel bad

i enterd 4409 on ES

lol

ive been red forever

[night flicker]

damn

mine was good for me

[west berry]

Lol 😂

[night flicker]

I am green and I am supposed to be red lol

[cloud cipher]

oh true lol

if we are still riding this at 3pm something big will happen

always moves hard at 3

trend breaking

we had a previous wick and pull back...but ideally if we can close under that trend line its the first time

thats nq 5

[hearty rivet]

strong trendline

if broken im addin more cons

[cloud cipher]

next candle is make or break

at least if we are going down or goiing back to FVG

[night flicker]

just kill me

[west berry]

Or let me know we’re it breaks

[hearty rivet]

so much liq below trendline

must be dumb to pump without taking them

[cunning gull]

Bearish candled loading...

[cloud cipher]

cant be more indecisive thn that

little for you, little for you

if this closes red long term trend is broken. if this closes green short term is broken and maybe back to fvg

i think we will see what happens right at 3pm

like always

closed right at the junction and now riding trend line up

dump baby dump

[night flicker]

I think e rip now

but it can say fuck you just as much lmao

[tawny pulsar]

Hello everyone

I was wondering if someone like to trade together sometimes

a friend of mine is trading with another friend, and they keep swapping ideas to get in a trade
they talk with each via discord during market hours

i tried with them
it is good to trade together but they trade forex,
i trade futures

if someone would like to try sometimes let me know

[night flicker]

we trade here freely friend

[cloud cipher]

not now clay we busy lol

[night flicker]

yeah fuck off clay

[cloud cipher]

LOL

[night flicker]

joking lol

[cloud cipher]

yeah

just not a good time

lol

LFG

[cunning gull]

MSS - bearish

[night flicker]

don't jinx this

PLEASE

[west berry]

Lol 😂 clay

[night flicker]

CLOSED NQ!!!

[cunning gull]

Congrats

[west berry]

Yoooo mehn I’m hurt 😞

[night flicker]

took a little sooner

[west berry]

Got 500 bucks off this

[night flicker]

120 ticks

[hearty rivet]

congrats boys

up $80

$800

[cloud cipher]

get to 4402 now ES!

[night flicker]

[west berry]

Fuck mish fuck that money is mine

[cunning gull]

That's dope...all for just today?

[cloud cipher]

ES OB right now

[west berry]

I sold to mish

[hearty rivet]

holding 3 cons

[cloud cipher]

there it goes.. first broke

[night flicker]

I stole some of his money

[cloud cipher]

now the second

[west berry]

Kudos to you guys for holding this long

[night flicker]

closed at 200$

not holding

too late for me to trade now fuck this lol

[cunning gull]

CLOSED.

[west berry]

I’m so hurt right now

[hearty rivet]

$1.2k!!

holding 2

[west berry]

Im green for the day

[cunning gull]

Reversing up.....bullish DIVERGENCE showing now

[night flicker]

am I dreaming?

no like Quant but good enough lmao

and it was kind of a slow day

[hearty rivet]

FULLY OUT

TP HIT

4402

[cloud cipher]

YES SIR SAME

[night flicker]

yep we hit the target

LFGGGGGG

[hearty rivet]

LETS GOOO BOYS

[west berry]

I called that entry to the . For you guys

[hearty rivet]

PATIENCE TOLD YOU

SPAM GG

gg

[night flicker]

and its riping still

[cloud cipher]

debated keeping runners ....but im tired of waiting LOL

[cunning gull]

nice trades

[west berry]

Nq fvg then we dump

[cunning gull]

I've been swinging all day....

[night flicker]

NOW SPAM LUKE!!!!

he said he will record a short

he will record now

get those free ads

[hearty rivet]

up $1.4k on the day

[hearty rivet]

LMAOOOO

was damn worth the 1 hour

[night flicker]

Love you Luke

[hearty rivet]

i told you guys trust the algos

[night flicker]

sexc

[hearty rivet]

love you more bro

[night flicker]

[night flicker]

I am heading out

gn everyone!!!

[hearty rivet]

beautiful tp look it bounced rejection straight from that to the micro millimeter

gn boi!

post your wins

[night flicker]

[hearty rivet]

so i can record a video

i added 2 cons at the break of trendline

[night flicker]

you have it already babes

[hearty rivet]

CRAZY

[west berry]

Gn

[night flicker]

thats sammary

almost 6.6k in total

[hearty rivet]

holy shit

epic!!

[night flicker]

LFG!!!!!!!!!!

[hearty rivet]

LFGGG

[west berry]

No group chat like the futures group

[jagged saffron]

@hearty rivet HELP., In the ICT SIMPLE CONCEPT., If the liquidity is not taken (HIGH / LOW), but if we get the Market Structure Shift (MSS), next FVG., then can we take the trade

[west berry]

If only the vip peeps knows what’s going on here

Lol I like it this way not too much noise

[west berry]

Nope

[hearty rivet]

no, only if liquidity is taken

think of it like this. you got a lambo and few hot goldiggers are about 100 meters away from you

you cant drive to them unless your lambo has fuel

[jagged saffron]

NOTED, Thank you

[hearty rivet]

fuel in trading terms is liquidity

[jagged saffron]

Example

[past jungle]

lol

[hearty rivet]

[west berry]

Join us everyday here

[hearty rivet]

post your profits bois so i can record

tife wheres yours

[hearty rivet]

post this again

[west berry]

Let me get my rithimic

[hearty rivet]

beautiful

[cunning gull]

So, technically, I can assume all internal order blocks are LIQUIDITY ZONES?

[west berry]

Using Tradovate and ritmic

[hearty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-confused-look-gif-24835232

no bro

then watch todays videos they are 3-4 min long

[cunning gull]

Ok..thanks

[hearty rivet]

np bro

[cinder pulsar]

what a day... mixed on the reversal from 1254 from 4404 to 4414.. then overall a green day! Yeah! $813 on one, $132 on another and £991 on another (after $2k down).. happy days 🙂

all on the ES

[hearty rivet]

very good bro

actual question is why were you $2k down

[cinder pulsar]

off for a couple of weeks again after today so wish everyone the best on trading while i am not.. thanks to Micky for sharing setup details

[hearty rivet]

depending on your acc, your sl shouldnt be more than 40-50 ticks aka 250-400$ max sl

take care homeboy

FVG still holding like lion

new video of today

[neat raft]

G'day

[hearty rivet]

Gday

[cloud cipher]

is the smart trail strat now a fixed 25 ticks

or are we still taking it to the ST flip?

my one loss today was pretty big because the ST was big lol

i know it was said that was just the average

but is there a rule of thumb on what we should or shouldnt push?

this L was a 55 tick cloud

[past jungle]

Don't enter it if the cloud is too big for your risk parameters

[random sage]

if u wanna risk 250$ per trade that stop loss is the size of the trail

so if trail is 10 ticks depth, gonna go with 50 contracts to risk 250$

if u wanna risk same contract same amount just place a limit order like half way thru the trail or whatever

like for example if u wanna stay at 25 ticks

may not get filled

[north marlin]

Quant strat got murdered today on NQ 1m

[cloud cipher]

That is actually brilliant.

Because then you were doing the same risk every single time

I assume the math still works out with the proper win rate

[random sage]

Do one limit at the touch then another half way thru or something

[cloud cipher]

Do you need to then maintain a WR more than 50% if varying your contract size

I guess not, because your small Trail/bigwins is where make your money.

[random sage]

Or u could just go same contract variable stop loss lol risk it for the biscuit

[cloud cipher]

Is there a reason for the different target?

Oh - needs that for profit to be above the SL

[random sage]

There all supposed to be 100 just forget to switch it lol

When the smart trails that big id prob go bigger contract but set a limit within the shaded area

[cloud cipher]

It’s rarely that big i think

[north marlin]

Can someone tell me rules for smart trail strat?

[cloud cipher]

I like your idea. I’ve wrote a helper indicator for early alerts as i think you saw earlier -
Im going to update it with this math. All you do is enter your risk per trade in the settings and it will have a label on your chart showing both the current size of the smart trail cloud plus how many cons to use based on the current trail size and your defined risk.

@random sage ^^

It will be live updating and do all the math on the fly

So enter your risk and it will update in real time how many cons to enter with

[random sage]

I was thinking of something like that but im no coder lol

[cloud cipher]

I got ya covered lol

Will have it done tonight or tomorrow

[past jungle]

That sounds cool

[tired plume]

@hearty rivet hey man, so sorry if you've answered this before but is there any particular reason why you use two different instances of the ICT concepts indicator? i can see that one is for an expected bullish move and the other a bearish move, but curious why you couldn't use one instance for that? just to help keep you focused on the move you're looking for? super appreciate the videos and insights.

[cloud cipher]

Yes - if you have a sweep up of the high you are only looking for bearish setups then. And opposite of course.
Just helps keep chart cleaner by only showing you what you need to see based on the play you are expecting

Click on click off depending on the setup you are waiting on

I did a similar setup with sessions track in between then. The call version are on top of the sessions tracker and the put versions are below it

Makes it easy to remember which ones to activate

[hearty rivet]

Hey bro, @cloud cipher answered you good. It’s just cleaner thank having both bullish and bearish MSS and fvgs everywhere. Toggle on off which direction you want. Just a preference and optional

[cloud cipher]

Coming tomorrow! @hearty rivet @random sage @west berry

Can generate an alert when price is within your defined tick distance form smart trail extremity. Will also calculate in real time the current smart trail ribbon width and tell you the suggested number of cons based on that width and your desired risk

[west berry]

this is sweet nice

[cloud cipher]

Example from that loss earlier today

At entry it was 55 wide, so for a 300 risk it was 11 cons

[west berry]

wow you good with this

good job can we code to know if its a green candel touching the smart trail or not

[cloud cipher]

Not yet

[west berry]

oh that would be a game changer

[cloud cipher]

I’ve reached out to Lux to have this added

Yeah it will

I need to think through though how to adjust the math so you can enter your con price

Like .50 is micros and 5.00 is mini

That would affect the number of cons

[west berry]

but its already calculated in there

the stop loss lets you know how much you are risking based off 10 con which in the width case its 300 bucks

or what do you want to adjust actually

[cloud cipher]

But if those cons each are 50 cents per tick (MNQ) it’s different con number needed if you were playing NQ (5.00 per tick)

I think i got it

Fixed it

[west berry]

oh okay i guess you would have to indicate or maybe toggle between mnq es and nq

[cloud cipher]

Now you can use it on other things besides just MNQ. Just set the settings appropriately

[west berry]

sweet

[cloud cipher]

Like MES is what, 1.25 per tick

[west berry]

this is lovley

[cloud cipher]

And 12.50 per full ES

So you would just set tick price in there

@west berry add me as a friend please

[west berry]

okay

[past jungle]

Looks clean

[tired plume]

awesome, thank you! and are you using PAC on there as well? more confluence?

[tired plume]

rad thank you!

[random sage]

👏

[cloud cipher]

I use PAC for fvg as well because the other one doesn’t always pick them up

[tired plume]

yes, awesome. interestingly, i use LUX ICT for FVGs on my regular strat chart, because they follow price action (as opposed to only being a specified length) so i'm pretty used to using both. thanks for all the help!

[west berry]

backtesting as we speak

[cloud cipher]

Yep - nothing special/unique about PAC on there. Either/both is fine

[hearty rivet]

good job brother. I dont use indicators but for those who use that system they will be very excited

good mornig bois

we havent took any session high or low since 2-3 sessions ago

[fair stag]

gud morning

which one should be target?
latest liq or nearest liq?

[hearty rivet]

previous session liuqudity

so NY PM

but since we took NY AM aswell thats really good

ohhh man

that was a beautiful trade look at the MSS forming FVG, oricce went straight into fvg and dropped hardcore till downside liqudiity

[fair stag]

yes, just waiting for smart trial confirmation

[hearty rivet]

this doesnt use smart trail

[fair stag]

you use smart trial?

[hearty rivet]

no

[fair stag]

okay

[hearty rivet]

last time i used an indicator was in 2019

[fair stag]

can you do one detailed video about FVG?

[hearty rivet]

ofc indicators like the sessions isnt considered a indicator, it just auto-drawing high low

[fair stag]

yeah, it saves time

[hearty rivet]

not necessary, ill explain it in a way youll like

imagine you go to starbucks with ur gf

she buys a latte for $2

so does everyone

next day you come and price of one latte is $50

would you buy? no who buys a coffe for $50

so does everyone else, nobody buys, so starbucks is forced to decrease the price back to 2-10$

to fill this imbalance

same thing with market, if price moves too aggressively, it leaves an imbalance/fvg, which at some point market must go back and fill this imbalance

[fair stag]

so, is this reversal after MSS?

[hearty rivet]

ye

[fair stag]

tq bro

I am confused about this 5th and 6th point
Identify the MSS candle body + DISPLACEMENT with FVG on 5m.
6Look for 5m FVG to show support for next candles

Could you please explain this?

here I draw support

[hearty rivet]

an MSS is only valid if a strong aggressive move with body closing in it not just a wick

[hearty rivet]

like in this huge red candle forming MSS

[hearty rivet]

step 6 is optional, just make sure the price doesnt close above the FVG in a short, a wick is fine

[fair stag]

Alright

[hearty rivet]

Reached 500 subs! Thanks bois!

session high has been taken

@night flicker @west berry @cloud cipher wake up

[fair stag]

SL hit 😂

@hearty rivet

my setup is correct right?

[hearty rivet]

first of all

use ICT concepts not PAC

or turn that off and send full chart screenshot

[zenith crown]

How do we get access to that👀

[hearty rivet]

why are you longing

no liqudity taken yet

[hearty rivet]

suppose we did indeed sweep liquidity, there is a fvg below you sl should cover that because price as you can see went to fill it

[fair stag]

this green line turns red when liq is taken?

[night flicker]

nice!

lets get MSS

and FVG lol

this will take a while

[night flicker]

you made me think that I missed an entry in london session

[fair stag]

😂

[hearty rivet]

this is a continuation move

[neat raft]

you know if there’s any way to set an alert on the mss?

i’m in class rn and professor’s gon hit me again if i keep looking on my phone

[cloud cipher]

“Again” - LOL

Back below nypm High

Need the bearish MSS now

I have silver bullet added - though not 100% sure how to use it - but i think that’s an entry based on that

Blue for bullish candles and yellow for bearish

Fvg pullback

(Though personally I’m waiting for MSS)

Just pointing out what i noticed

[arctic wolf]

Can someone post when they enter pls. At work today

[barren lintel]

There. MSS on NQ

[neat raft]

opened short on nq

[cloud cipher]

Gotta wait for this candle to complete

Then the pullback

@hearty rivet @night flicker @west berry we have a setup in process. Mss and fvg

[spice parcel]

@hearty rivet

[night flicker]

yep

[hearty rivet]

beautifullllll

@cloud cipher thanks friend

[neat raft]

thx luke for the strategy

[hearty rivet]

yw

[hearty rivet]

killing it

[west berry]

Did I miss anything guys

[cloud cipher]

Target 15167 for profit? Looks like recent swing area

Or going all the way?

[hearty rivet]

first tp would be 15156

second 15147

max 15114

but wait for entry

setup not valid yet

[fair stag]

@hearty rivet your TF for entry?

[cloud cipher]

@hearty rivet i gotta get ready so i was setting things up

[fair stag]

5M?

[cloud cipher]

This look valid above image @hearty rivet ?

[hearty rivet]

5m

[fair stag]

okay

[hearty rivet]

price didnt enter FVG yet

we got a order block that holds the FVG good

[cloud cipher]

I have limit buy set at edge

[hearty rivet]

sl small, not a bad trade to take once price in fvg

[hearty rivet]

sweet

[cloud cipher]

Ready for the tap

I’m in

[hearty rivet]

same

[cloud cipher]

Now we ride - either SL or TP from here

[neat raft]

price entered fvg

[cloud cipher]

Although i may raise my SL to recent swing high - but it shouldn’t get up there

[hearty rivet]

lets see how the fvg holds

[hearty rivet]

start like that yat

the green big candle few candles before

is an order block

price shouldnt breaj through it

[night flicker]

lets goo

we are running

[hearty rivet]

algos start running in 10 minutes at 8 am

[night flicker]

they might push for the FVG again then

we will have another trade like yesterday?

[hearty rivet]

if god allows yeah

[night flicker]

from negative to BE to negative to BE to positive to BE to positive to negative to TP

[hearty rivet]

lolol

remember yesterday

[night flicker]

[hearty rivet]

+100$ -$100 - breakeven + 100$ - 100$

sl and risk is small thank god

[neat raft]

first tp at ob 2nd one at session low for me

[hearty rivet]

draw fib from high to low of session

that should be a nice first tp

[neat raft]

alr

[hearty rivet]

make sure your RR is 2:1

optimal trading entry is actually 15184 inside the fvg

cuz premium is there

so we should be able to wether that

[neat raft]

what premium?

[cloud cipher]

Ah - your 156 TP was based on 50 fib

I’m catching on now lol

[fair stag]

yes

[hearty rivet]

we also got inverse FVG in our setup too

the more the merrier,

may god bless us all amin

[fair stag]

how to find this premium?

can you show fib there please?

[hearty rivet]

Algos are alive

[west berry]

Ny am

[hearty rivet]

draw from London high to lowest candle after MSS

[night flicker]

I think first tp should be 152

[night flicker]

and then second tp should be 120

[hearty rivet]

price respecting 0.5 optimal trading entry

oh oh

[night flicker]

are we going for sl?

193.25

[hearty rivet]

strong OB

shouldnt break

but bullish candle breaking FVG isnt a good sign

[night flicker]

where did you place sl?

[hearty rivet]

i forgot check news

[night flicker]

im out

[hearty rivet]

we got red folder?

rip

oh

[night flicker]

we will sweep this London now lol

[hearty rivet]

we didjnt follow protocol

[barren lintel]

ahh yeah at 830

[night flicker]

huh?

[hearty rivet]

POWERL SPEAKING

[night flicker]

[west berry]

Red folder

[hearty rivet]

4 damn red boxes

4

[west berry]

Oh shit

I didn’t check

[west berry]

Sorry guys I should have informed as well

[cunning gull]

I thought you wait until NY AM sweeps the LONDON Highs or Lows anyway.

[hearty rivet]

if we got a red folder in morning we do not trade the morning, we wait for afternoon

damn

[night flicker]

Luke I am suing you for making me lose a few bucks

[hearty rivet]

lmao

[night flicker]

SL should've been the high swing lol

I think we will still fall

[hearty rivet]

order block is being respected

considering rentry

[neat raft]

mine is

[hearty rivet]

body closed inside FVG

[night flicker]

lol nice

[cloud cipher]

Ya i got stoped out

Oh well

Will wait till NY AM closes i suppose

[hearty rivet]

im still in xd

risky trade,

[night flicker]

damn I want to enter again lol

[cloud cipher]

Ya lol i thought same thing

This is better entry than i had before

[hearty rivet]

super tight sl

[night flicker]

not sure if worth it though

nah I will skip

I think it will be a small move

[west berry]

Careful guys lol 😂

[hearty rivet]

dont trade the AM

wait for pm

but news in PM too ffs

[cloud cipher]

Even if we don’t enter we get a learning session

Just by watching

[vast yoke]

guys quick question, you all trade NQ1! ? My broker has NASDAQ (15035 price), logic is not any different right?

[cloud cipher]

I may just play smart trail taps today lol

You are delayed

You don’t have live data

[neat raft]

price crossing under my entry again

[vast yoke]

oh okay, do you recommend opening a tradovate account?

[neat raft]

just get an apex account

they include live data

[hearty rivet]

NQU3

[west berry]

Those news fucked us over not sure will trade the setup today probably just look for smart trail we’ve got news all over today becareful guys

[neat raft]

whats smart trail

[hearty rivet]

news

managed to make 400

minus first loss of 250

no trade till PM session

Powel speaking in a little bit

3rd step of protocol is never trade red box news especially power, CPI PPI etc. this was on us

[barren lintel]

Powell was 6 hours ago

[cloud cipher]

He speaks again at 8:30

[barren lintel]

oh damn. i dont see that on forexfactory

[cloud cipher]

Oh, you were right. That was yesterday.

[hearty rivet]

no its today at 9:30 am so in 30-1hr

[cloud cipher]

How did you make 400? Did you have mid fvg entry?

So on the pullback it went profitable?

[west berry]

It’s lux algo indicator Strat the signal overlay

Powell speaks all day today

[hearty rivet]

i renterd after getting sl

[cloud cipher]

He’s in Spain, so the times may be weird

[hearty rivet]

because candle body closed inside the fvg, wick was just algos grabbing liq

i entered 3 cons though

[neat raft]

dont have access to that

[hearty rivet]

this is a great trade tbh, just newsmight fuck it up

london high taken

[west berry]

If you are in here you do

[hearty rivet]

why does powel speak let him go sleep

[fair stag]

then you shorted?

[neat raft]

idk why i’m here

[west berry]

Gimme a few driving will explain.

[hearty rivet]

yep

[fair stag]

👍🏻

[hearty rivet]

LETS FUKING GO

[barren lintel]

You looking at wrong timezone. Pwell was hours ago. The 930 slot is greyed out as well so its already passed. Right now its Unemployment claims

[hearty rivet]

LETS FUCKNIG GO

im out

[barren lintel]

damn i didn't get back in

[hearty rivet]

damn

[spice parcel]

can you show the trade? i dont have live data yet

[night flicker]

do we take this sweep?

damn no FVG lol

[hearty rivet]

no mss either just a wick with body above mss

50% fib 1st tp hit and 2nd tp hit

but this was on news, so i dont count this as a trade

[cloud cipher]

yeah idk what you are trading lol

[hearty rivet]

same setup

after we all got stopped out

[neat raft]

my sl got hit by the wick

[hearty rivet]

i rentered once body of candle closed inside fvg

[neat raft]

i will wait for mss on es

[hearty rivet]

setup worked very well just algos and news started the manipulation taking us out

There is news i wouldnt tradethe AM

trust me do not be in a trade till NY PM

[neat raft]

alr

[hearty rivet]

market will go up take sl go down take sl till PM session

if you want to trade the morning session during news, take 1-2 micros or even better, PAPER trading

[cloud cipher]

yeah i did micros both times

SL take out both times LOL

all good though

im still playing very small positions as i learn the strategy and its quirks

[hearty rivet]

follow the protocol boys, dont rush. We saw a nice opportunity and we got excited and took it but missing the most important step of checking news. There is a reason why its step 3

in news, there is no fomo or that bs. News is driven 100% by algos. they will take both side liquidity until everyone is dried out

[west berry]

What the hell

[hearty rivet]

its impossible to beat that and impossible for any strategy to win it

[fair stag]

algos means whale?

[west berry]

Hedge funds

[neat raft]

stophunt

[night flicker]

wanted to take this but I don't like trading the 1m in pre-market

[west berry]

That was our move

We took London high

[hearty rivet]

man

if we didnt get stopped out

[west berry]

Then had an mss

[hearty rivet]

the trade was max tp rn

mistakes happen, moving onto next trade

[night flicker]

yeah shit happens lol

[west berry]

The setup is fire and we trusted it too much that we forget the key important part

[hearty rivet]

yeah

look its hitting London Low max tp 🙂

next time its all our job to check the steps. If we forget one of us remind

[west berry]

Yeah I was suppose to check for everything but @cloud cipher spammed me from my nap and looking at the chart all I saw was mss

Lol I just waited for pull back into fvg and got in

[cunning gull]

[hearty rivet]

low taken

short max tp hit

now we look for a long

but POWELL

why do they speak alot

[west berry]

Took London lows

[cunning gull]

RSI is crazy oversold on 5m

[night flicker]

Lol

[hearty rivet]

that was a 300 tick move no left no right straight down

pyschology is a bish

[west berry]

Would have being a 16k day for me off that on 4 nq con

[neat raft]

i’m away for a few minutes and this happens

[west berry]

Down 500 bucks for the day we had a blast yesterday so not complaining

[main sable]

hello friends, im a starting trader i was taking nice shorts yesterday on nq any good advise for a starting futures trader?

[cloud cipher]

im not done that much - but same sentiment

not played since our first 8a wicks screwed us lol

[tired plume]

so, there was no fvg entry on ES this AM after it swept london sellside liquidity, right? just making sure i'm seeing the setup correctly.

[hearty rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093362541347995698/1123078841628377138/image.png

Powel spoke already?

im confused lol

[west berry]

On forexcactory it say Powell speaks all day lol 😂

But yes I think he spoke already

[cunning gull]

Grabbed those STOPs QUICK on the opening candle 😅

[hearty rivet]

i think we are dclear for the morning

news is pm

once we get an MSS and fvg we going in

[west berry]

Yes we got unemployment claim done

No more red folders we are in the clear

[night flicker]

we have powell today I think

[hearty rivet]

thats what i thought

but it says 2:30 am

[cunning gull]

So many rejections at 15145

[hearty rivet]

and on other place 9:30 am

if we didnt get stopped out by that wick man we would be hitting 500 ticks rn

trust the setup, careful of the environment

[west berry]

How

[west berry]

What news is this

[barren lintel]

Weird.. I see that for yesterday. Not today

[night flicker]

I am not seeing a live lmao

wtf is going on

29 June

[barren lintel]

lol we got screwed by news this morning, now we overly paranoid and

seeing news that isn't there

[barren lintel]

what site?

[night flicker]

https://tradingeconomics.com/calendar

lol

[hearty rivet]

nah

put it at utc -4 aka NY time

Fed spoke today at 2:30 am

[night flicker]

ohhh

it's 9:30 my time

lmaoooo

[west berry]

Yo guys @cloud cipher is genius we working on smart trail it’s fire 🔥

[hearty rivet]

lmao

[night flicker]

we are in the clear

lol

[night flicker]

you trading smart trail touches?

[hearty rivet]

yep

[night flicker]

Luke look at this

thats 1m NQ

[west berry]

Building an indicator to optimize it

[night flicker]

I'm not trading pre-market

but god damn

[hearty rivet]

exactly

after entry on 5m

you can seek rentry on 1m or 5m

[night flicker]

yeah

[hearty rivet]

thats what i did to gap that 400

[night flicker]

those mfs

[west berry]

Guys a tip London session the best most times for smart trail

[night flicker]

thats the 5m

[night flicker]

damn

I will trade all of london session everyday if thats the case

whats the wr? in london session?

[low yoke]

Trading what instrument? Im in the Uk and always wait for NY to open

[fair stag]

Where is smart trial here?

[west berry]

Nq 1m using smart trail if that red candle touches that smart trail or green in London session you have 9/10 guarantee it’s going the other way

[night flicker]

thats not ST

[west egret]

smart trail 1/1

[fair stag]

What is the strategy bro for ST?

[west berry]

But I will let @random sage give more insight I just figured it works in London session from my backtest

[west berry]

Yes

[fair stag]

What is the strategy for ST?

Enter when ST red and exit when blue ?

[west berry]

Smart trail 1/1 for the day

[west berry]

No

[low yoke]

How many ticks you using for s/l and TP? Not much movement in london for nq from what i see

[fair stag]

Could you please explain about 1/1 ?

[west berry]

Smart trail is used in the 1m if we are red or green you wait for pull backs into the smart trail ribbon on the pull back the touch as to be a red candle for shorting possibilities and if we are bullish and we pull back to the ribbon the candle that touches the ribbing most be a green candle for long possibilities

[west berry]

80 to 100 ticks

[fair stag]

What about exit or TP?

[west berry]

For stop loss as to be the break of the ribbon and your tp is 80 to 100 ticks depends how you want to play it but most of us go for 80 100 ticks but we are working on a indicator that will tell you how many cons to buy if you are risking a certain amount for the trade

[fair stag]

This is live data in TV?

[random sage]

Did i miss the invitie to the indicator @cloud cipher 😉

[west berry]

Yes

[west berry]

lol still in works

[fair stag]

How do you get this data?

Any indicator?

[west berry]

Yes it’s an indicator still in the works not out yet

[fair stag]

Alright

Waiting

Is it work on forex too?

[low yoke]

Ok so just takes a little longer to fill right cause of volume? You must be hitting 1:3's and 1:4's then are you? 👏🏻

[hearty rivet]

NQ still going down

NY PM got swept

London got swept

holy shit imagine still holding

[west berry]

Yes but not every time @random sage is the best to explain everything about the Strat

[west berry]

This indicator alerts you if price is nearing your ribbing and if price is in the ribbon and also tell you how many cons you should buy for a certain amount of preset risk you’ve already done in the settings and also let’s you know we’re to put your tp

[low yoke]

I understand the strat 👍🏻 just curious with lack of volume on NQ in london compared to Ny and how the start would perform 😊

[west berry]

It works in ny as well super well @random sage trades it only during ny sessions

And he goes 5/6 or even 4/4 a day

[low yoke]

Top community in here ❤️

[cunning gull]

Damn...going for previous NY AM LOW

[hearty rivet]

holy damn

[random sage]

Im going golfing make some money fellas !!

[unique hatch]

sellside liquidity is comin

[hearty rivet]

we took 2 sessions liquidity already

third sessions liq soon too lmao

this is gonna be a nice long

[unique hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-doge-coin-to-the-moon-crypto-cryptocurrency-gif-14563637

[hearty rivet]

did anyone take London sweep

[fair stag]

You mean short?

[west berry]

We couldn’t the news messes everything up

[hearty rivet]

yeah

it didnt show MSS because that was a BOS xd

[fair stag]

Bro do you have any strategy for sweep?

When should we take sweep?

[west berry]

Yeah and we had unemployment news

[hearty rivet]

yeah

thing is we eneted 10 min before algos started working

usually if price is near an fvg and and algos about to start, they will push price to the fvg and then setup continues. but since price was already at the fvg, algo wanted to take out the swing high liq before dipping. i expected that but the news pushed this wick way too high

[unique hatch]

now just playing the wating game for another mss

if any

[hearty rivet]

yh

imma code an alert for MSS

[fair stag]

Yeah bro

Waiting

[west berry]

For bullish and bearish

[fair stag]

But you can set alert for CHOCH in PAC

CHOCH+

Both

[hearty rivet]

hm

how much are you guys down from first trade

[fair stag]

I think short ended

[west berry]

Just 500 bucks

[hearty rivet]

whats ur acc size

i lost 500 to but im down only 100 now, made 400 back

[cloud cipher]

want your minds blown?

[west berry]

Lol

Smart trail 2/2 for the day

[cloud cipher]

Mix FVG/ICT with Smart Trail taps.

1. big ol candle down generated a BOS - meaning continuation candle.
2. FVG generated though.
3. i didnt enter on the tap because we were pulling back into the FVG
4. we finally started to move back down, so i got in....
   4b) I got out when that new tiny FVG was generated because i figured it was about to pull back to that

[hearty rivet]

thats pretty

[cloud cipher]

which it did

and tap again right at the top of the mini FVG

and down more

[hearty rivet]

combinging liq fvg and mss with any indicator makes that indicator 1000x stronger

[cloud cipher]

and this was a BOS on the big candle, so you know it was still wanting to move in your same direction

just needed to fill the FVG

the first tap would be a loss if you entered on the tap and got out on the Smart trail as it wicked above it

[west berry]

Funny thing we got the alerts ‼️ for that entry and the cons to buy also stop loss and tp fire

[ancient marsh]

ST is simply and ATR based indicator, this is why it works

[cloud cipher]

ive never been able to figure out its exact settings though

ive tried lol

[ancient marsh]

I have found other indicators that i can get to metch it pretty closely

[west berry]

That’s were my stop was so it’s just wicked right through and I’ve being seating on hands

[hearty rivet]

mss will be at 15100

lol

[fair stag]

5m?

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[fair stag]

What is next level?

[cloud cipher]

so right now a tap may not be worth it.
for 250 risk it says only play 4 micro cons due to the size of the smart trail.
a 80 tick TP is only 160 profit
so your RR is inverse

[hearty rivet]

air

are you coding it?

help me add alert to the ict indicator 😄

[ancient marsh]

Ydays lows holding for now

Back above yday vpoc

[hearty rivet]

ping me at mss pls

we close to one

here we go

[west berry]

We need alert for mss

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[west egret]

the ICT is open source, quite easy to just add alert into it i think

[night flicker]

mother fuckers

2 points from entry

should've entered market at that wick

[ancient marsh]

I bought 052

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[ancient marsh]

Took +10points only

[cloud cipher]

why

no valid entry yet

need the pullback

[night flicker]

me?

[west berry]

Yes waiting for that pull back

[west berry]

Are you in

[cloud cipher]

no

i didnt enter because there was no valid pullback

just the candle that made the FVG

[cunning gull]

Just trying to break even from that LOSS

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[cunning gull]

My trade got soooo low....I deleted my STOP

[cloud cipher]

im up 3 dollars on the day after a smart tap win earlier that recovered that loss

😉

MCDonalds value menu and a water for dinner over here

[cunning gull]

Lol

I'm even at 15135

[cloud cipher]

although Luke would not say this is valid i dont think

[west berry]

Yeah

[cloud cipher]

as it was a PAC CHoCH and not a MSS

[west berry]

This as well so I was a bit skeptical since Luke preferred mss to choch

[cloud cipher]

ES MSS

needs FVG though

[hearty rivet]

has one

small

[cloud cipher]

that little ssucker lol

its 1 tick wide LOL

NOW we got one

pull back next candle if this holds

[cunning gull]

Took an $11 loss...that's how bad I wanted out of that TRADE - LOL

[cloud cipher]

so what do you do when the new cnadle OPENS inside the FVG the candle that just closed generates?

oh wait

not possible

as then a FVG isnt made

[hearty rivet]

its best for price to move away from the fvg before going back to it

[cloud cipher]

i mean i guess it could

it just would be small most likely

i still think we come back to that lower FVG mabe

looks like NQ trying to do that

[hearty rivet]

on NQ we got a minor MSS

not by lux

[cloud cipher]

lux had a CHoCH though

which is mostly the same

[hearty rivet]

screenshot the choch for me please

[cloud cipher]

white dash is the 50% line for the NYAM session

[autumn thistle]

ES having trouble with this POC

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[hearty rivet]

sweet

im taking entry on that nq fvg

tight sl

[cloud cipher]

me too

esepcially now that bear FVG just generated lol

SL will be the bottom of the bull FVG

and hope it comes back for the bear

[hearty rivet]

can you show me choch of es

[hearty rivet]

exactly

[cloud cipher]

ES has both BOS and MSS

no choch

[hearty rivet]

nice

[hearty rivet]

where is the choch of es? bos without choch? not possible

[barren lintel]

finally fvg on nq. but no mss? or am i just not seeing it?

nvm.. wrong tf

[night flicker]

We have MSS

[barren lintel]

where?

[cloud cipher]

im ready to go on NQ when it taps

[unique hatch]

we go long or short on this fvg?

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[hearty rivet]

long

algos asleep in 20 min

they are the ones who will bring us to the fvg

[cloud cipher]

play or no?

cancel play if not hit before noon?

[ancient marsh]

Winner winner chicken dinner

[night flicker]

Are you taking es or nq?

[night flicker]

Oh nq

[cloud cipher]

is the bottom edge + a tick off the FVG to tight of a SL ?

should i have it really the bottom of the candle that MADE the FVG?

[hearty rivet]

entry during lunch time is not advisable

it will consolidate till 1.30

[cloud cipher]

then it should hurry up lol

SL better at number 1 or number 2?

[hearty rivet]

pyschological stop loss at 1

hard stop at 2

the two red candles at the left are an order block

[cloud cipher]

i think im cancelling my entry

we are to close to noon now

it could wick down....but then what lol

out of time

[hearty rivet]

lets hope we fill it at 1.30

i have 1 con limit at the fvg

[west berry]

We are in a big chop zone 3 days back

[cunning gull]

bearish divergences on the 2m

7 to be exact.

[west berry]

Oh I wasn’t looking that far out

[hearty rivet]

oh oh

my order is filled

lets go god is great

[cunning gull]

L/S?

[hearty rivet]

l

algos asleep

nothing to back us yp

[cunning gull]

nice...

[night flicker]

fuck

missed the entry

[cunning gull]

I'm tracking a bearish BB at 15110

[west berry]

not strong

[cunning gull]

four rejections on 2m

[barren lintel]

where'd you get in?

[wraith wharf]

We are HTF bullish, not a bad entry but not the best time to enter lol. We also did break structure on the 1m on NQ

[hearty rivet]

at the fvg

[west berry]

st is on fire today

[hearty rivet]

ES is on a swing high

i hope it doesnt reject so nq can follow

[wraith wharf]

Its looking a little squeezy

[hearty rivet]

we might get another retest of the fvg

[wraith wharf]

gonna pop

[hearty rivet]

algos wanna get that fvg once they are online

rn its retail

[barren lintel]

ok. the fvg must've already cleared from the screen because i dont see it then.

[cunning gull]

shoutout to the macbook 😉

Long at 120

[hearty rivet]

lmao

up 500

might close

es is at a liq area

[west berry]

clsose now

[hearty rivet]

fk it im holding

[wraith wharf]

Always wait for a pull back. Remember to Buy low and Sell high

A good thing I like to remember is like keep the opposite in mind. When price drops and the candle is red or whatever it is for you when it goes down into a key area is better to buy. And selling when the candle is green and price goes up into your key area for max profits.

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[hearty rivet]

leaving 1 to run

[wraith wharf]

Hopefully that 1 min FVG holds for you

[hearty rivet]

520$ not bad

100 ticks

[wraith wharf]

You buying lunch? lol

[hearty rivet]

if price reaches fvg again ill renter

[hearty rivet]

i despise it but my limit order from am session got filled

[night flicker]

I am skipping

I want it to sweep lower for a good entry

won't happen today though