📈futures-stocks-chat

[night flicker]

I mean.. seems to work

since its kinda small profits in comparison to a normal ICT strat, it makes sense

[low yoke]

Yea i think price has to enter the FVG to enter

his stop below the middle fvg candle

[low yoke]

70-80% as well . not shabby lol

[night flicker]

wr?

yeah, but I wonder what timezone he is in lol

[azure shell]

im pretty sure it would be in EST

i think you just set a limit order at the top of the FVG and wait for it to come down to fill you

then just set whatever you comfortable P/L

more like this technically

[low yoke]

Which indicator was this again, the first silver bullet sent in yesterday?

[azure shell]

yeah

[random sage]

When the smart trail lines up with the golden pocket

but doesnt get filled 😦

[low yoke]

I was a bit naughty then and had my order just above the trail lol

[random sage]

[low yoke]

nice scalp

[arctic wolf]

ive got an indicator that pings an alert 4 ticks above trail

[low yoke]

Oh aye, how did you do that?

[arctic wolf]

well its configurable x ticks above trail. can be a little annoying

[low yoke]

Interesting

[random sage]

ur def getting a christmas card @arctic wolf

[arctic wolf]

i still miss em all buddy 🙂

[random sage]

i just been setting limit orders and moving it with the trail

[arctic wolf]

one sec

[random sage]

SL is at 25 then move it accordingly

girls went to swimming lessons so now its just me and the charts

[random sage]

usually its like 3.5-4

target is 100 ticks but the smart trail stop loss will vary depending on the size of the shaded area

[wraith wharf]

I like to use the indices together NQ+ES+RTY+YM
they are pretty correlated. After RTY had its pull back and shot up the rest wanted to go even higher. Beautiful day!

[night flicker]

look at this beautiful trade

I missed this one but saw it later on, thats 93 ticks on CL (930$ per contract)

[wraith wharf]

So proud of you 🥹

[night flicker]

thats a AAA trade right? FVG under MSS, good liquidity, 1 FVG at the bottom

oh and I exited at the first "top" instead of riding it to the top, it hit the top at 103 ticks on CL

1 trade a day

[wraith wharf]

Yup, I believe youve got the basics of it down. There are other things in there like Volume imbalances and Inverse FVG but thats all other mumbo jumbo. If you can get these setups all you need is 1 trade a day

[night flicker]

whats volume imbalances?

[wraith wharf]

candle gaps

[night flicker]

ohh

yeah but its kinda useless on the 1/2 minute candles and on futures

you won't see much of it

[wraith wharf]

Yeah I dont worry about all the other stuff, but youve got it down.

You know what to look for now

[night flicker]

tomorrow last day of paper trading this

Monday we rich

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-cash-money-counting-money-gif-17544086

I would start with 10 micros (1 mini) and then scale out at internal liquidity, then set your break even and let the runners run

[random sage]

lets go short here commonnn

[wraith wharf]

Still waiting on MSS

[random sage]

like a choch?

[wraith wharf]

Yup. Higher TF look bullish still

[night flicker]

NQ?

if NQ would've gave us the MSS instead of equal low and re-tested that FVG I would've taken a short

but thats a lot of would've

[wraith wharf]

Its a pretty bullish day tbh, unless you got the long from open Im not touching this

[night flicker]

lmao yeah NQ and ES are meh with ICT today

I think you should re-visit CL lol

@wraith wharf you think its a good trade?

entry on FVG re-touch

if so thats a 130 ticks on CL if I am not wrong

[wraith wharf]

I wouldnt until I see more structure but you could go in small size and tight stop to give it a shot

[night flicker]

yep exactly my thought

ty

[wraith wharf]

🙂

CL has had good support and is breaking its downtrend, could see it go pretty high

NQ Looking to create that MSS with displacement and we can see a nice short possibly

[night flicker]

looking for 71.4 on CL lol

[random sage]

omf that smart trail bounce misssed my limit by 1 tick

twice

[arctic wolf]

what trail bounce lol

[arctic wolf]

whats that on?

[random sage]

mnq

[night flicker]

whats the RR?

[arctic wolf]

wtf am i looking at

[night flicker]

blue = green

[night flicker]

green candles (lux coloring) and green smart trail touch = entry

[random sage]

on that one is was 1.58 trail is huge

[night flicker]

lmao

[random sage]

hit tp1

[night flicker]

you should enter 2 ticks above

so you won't miss

[random sage]

yea im gonna do that from now on lol

missed out on 2k 😦

[arctic wolf]

what a twat. i was on NQU2023. no idea what happened there

[random sage]

ive been setting limit orders and moving it, will need to set them a teeny bit higher

[clear cedar]

nq AND mnq are showing diff smart trails today ... weird

[random sage]

mnq is 2/2

missed them both

[ancient marsh]

NQU flipped to red trail

Either way, chop

[random sage]

chop chop

[night flicker]

@wraith wharf 56 ticks on that CL already

[wraith wharf]

Yoo its poppin!

CL next draw on Liquitdy is 72

[random sage]

og W

[wraith wharf]

Gold (GC) pumped today too

[night flicker]

TP at 71.6

should I take it closer to 72? I did notice that the next target is around 71.7 I think

[wraith wharf]

on the 15m or 1h TF next level would be 71.96, it can reach there for sure but not without its pull backs

[night flicker]

yeah, I am letting it ride all the way

I will close it in an hour though

[wraith wharf]

Very bullish today, good idea

[night flicker]

[zenith crown]

OG win again👀

1:2 RR

pretttty nice

[night flicker]

we had this ICT trade on NQ

didn't enter it, wasn't near the pc but its an obvious entry

especially with that liquidity before the FVG

[random sage]

Another og

[night flicker]

that 145 ticks trade on NQ is enough lol

even though its a bit closer to the end of the day, with the trend we had today its an easy entry

[wraith wharf]

@night flicker How did you change your FVG candle to a different color? Thats kind of cool

[night flicker]

I am using that silver bullet indicator someone shared yesterday

[wraith wharf]

Ahh

[zenith crown]

damnnn didnt take that

i was doing other stuff lol

[night flicker]

and changed the setting and made it so that its always and not in certain hours

[random sage]

I didnt either was shopping lol

[zenith crown]

setting up my metatrader for forex prop firm challenges

[zenith crown]

yeah lol damn

[night flicker]

the nice thing that I noticed is that when you don't get both indicators agreeing on the FVG I just ignore it

[zenith crown]

did you pass challenges from the big FOMC short yesterday? @random sage

should be 1 trade pass lol

that was huggggge

[night flicker]

closed that CL trade, 57 ticks (570$) which is nice, it was at 77 ticks at the top, not worth holding anymore even though I believe it will hit the target

[warm coral]

what 2 indicators are you using please?

[random sage]

Did i pass any evals ?

[night flicker]

this for the candles with the colors

[wraith wharf]

Look at you, your going to be rich in no time!

[night flicker]

this one for MSS + liquidity areas (nice confirmation but not necessary)

[zenith crown]

yeah didn't you rebuy evals?

[night flicker]

for FVG, Liq grabs, ChoCh, BOS and FVG

[night flicker]

[warm coral]

I did not take it cos I did not see a CHoCH before it. want to know what I could have done better

[random sage]

Oh ya up 2000$ on one and 500 on another

Both 50k

[night flicker]

why is that ILS and not $ lmaoooo

[warm coral]

Thank you, would the liquidity grab represent the liquidity before the FVG?

[night flicker]

nope, its just something I like to see

don't have a strategy to implement it yet but when you see it you'll know what to do

as long as you understand ICT

(I've been doing it for 2 days so probably not too complicated)

[zenith crown]

niceeee one you're now back on track hahaha like nothing have happened

[night flicker]

taking into consideration all the trades today (even the ones that I missed) it was a 2.2k day

[warm coral]

Thank you, will study ICT more 🙂

[night flicker]

per contract

[warm coral]

great combination. The ICT concepts messes up my charts though :}

[night flicker]

remove these 2

[wraith wharf]

You can share your template I think Mish

[night flicker]

btw Forseti what do these mean?

[wraith wharf]

Those are New Week Opening Gap and New Day Opening Gap

ICT uses those for like support and resistant zones

[night flicker]

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/sfNByvtL/

[night flicker]

oh.. useless in futures

[warm coral]

Thank you, will try it

[wraith wharf]

I mean I wouldnt say useless but I dont use them lol

[random sage]

Yup lol

[night flicker]

yeah not entirely useless but yk..

[zenith crown]

I just passed one eval today, my first 25k. 2 more 50k coming 👀

[random sage]

Congrats

[zenith crown]

Planning to get them all to payout stage then I'll buy the rest lol

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/woot-woot-minions-woot-happy-cheering-gif-12083357

[zenith crown]

20 50k incoming hahahaha😂

[random sage]

Yessir

If u use a trade copier make sure all ur positions are closed before u go to bed…

[zenith crown]

yeah.... everyone uses trade copier should have this habit:

1. after your position is closed, make sure you also manually right click on the panel and "cancel all orders" and "flatten everything"
2. open up your "Accounts" tab, "Positions" tab and "Orders" tab to do a final check before closing anything

[random sage]

Yup did not know that 😂 great advice

[night flicker]

I just look in the NT main panel to see that nothing changes in profit / loss

[zenith crown]

just better be safe

[random sage]

I guess it would still show up in unrealized if u had it open

[arctic wolf]

you take that trail @random sage

[random sage]

I did

But for tracking purposes i stop at 3et

[copper tulip]

I have found that those levels work with ES

[night flicker]

are you using RTH?

[copper tulip]

Yes, I toggle the RTH to get the New Day Opening Gap

[copper tulip]

I recently started using the trade copier and have experienced issues with the Leader Account not closing. NT allows for Global Hot Keys to cancel and flatten orders.

[night flicker]

damn

thats nice

[random sage]

Right on man i like that

I use my sim account for my leader lol

[copper tulip]

I have not tried the Order Entry Hot keys, as I am just learning more about NT since Tradovate does not allow limits with their group trading.

[night flicker]

oh so just on open you switch draw the zone and go back to ETH

[night flicker]

oh.. so better but the NT trade copier

[copper tulip]

I am using an APEX Trade Copier on NT8

and NT8 uses the selected ATM Strategy for limit and stop loss

[low yoke]

Bit of a noob question but can i use the trade copier on different prop firms or will it get flagged!

[copper tulip]

I am not sure about simultaneously, but it seems like it should work on whichever account NT8 is connected to. It will trade evals along with performance accounts.

[low yoke]

Ok cool. Thanks. Just got a couple of accounts and wanted to link them

[random sage]

good week so far, smart trail winning

[wraith wharf]

Imagin if that was a bot, we'd all be rich

[random sage]

Need to quit our jobs

[wraith wharf]

We need to get @severe charm to make a NT bot using these. Heres to praying for passive income!

[random sage]

Wife wouldnt let me 😞

🤖 😍

[copper nexus]

you'd get wrecked, market bots do well on individual stocks but get stomped on big time on big boy stuff like futures/spx/etc

hard to compete against literal AI algos that self program and back test millions of data points a second and have had billions poured into them since the 70s

theres services like signalstack for that stuff too, lux doesnt need to make it, it already exists

[copper tulip]

Can I use this on multiple broker accounts.
Yes as long as you have the ability to login to the multiple accounts at one time either through a rithmic login which includes every account. Or a MultiBroker Key then you can use this on mutliple brokerage accounts. apexinvesting trade copier

[night flicker]

@copper nexus this backtest has been running I think for like 2 months now

market changes so the wr will change but for now it looks nice, around 60% wr, average of 1.7 RR

[copper nexus]

yeah 60% is pretty good, is it automated or manual i dont really follow in here much

[night flicker]

its kinda automated I think around 80%.. I think if you'll automate it the wr will drop a bit but you can cancel it out with automation (if we got the ability)

the main concept is simple, look for RSI moving down / up and under / above 50, ADX moving up, smart trail green / red and Lux candles changing according to the trade

the only thing that I dislike about this strat is that it is a set SL / TP so many times you'll get wicked out because the SL isn't adjusted to volatility

[past jungle]

What happened tuesday? No opportunities?

[random sage]

Correct

[past jungle]

Gotcha

[autumn thistle]

the lux also swing volume profile tool is incredible.

[outer maple]

Is that using June contract? Looks like September has been high volume for a couple days now. But whatever works. And wins lol.

[random sage]

I think I switched Tuesday

Whenever ninja trader let me

[past jungle]

After hours trail scalp 😎

It ripped right after my small TP whew..

[noble oak]

Entered a short at 4472.25 after looking at the matrix on the 1hr, along with other confluences.

you do have news today at 9am cdt as well, something to keep an eye on

[zenith crown]

Any idea to cater that? Like if swing low/high as SL, should TP based on candlestick formation/indicator/key levels etc?

[cloud cipher]

Are y’all entering with 30 cons on that smart trail?

I see 10 at to 1 and 20 at tp2?

Nevermind - i did the math based on a full loss. 30 cons

[night flicker]

based on what math?

[night flicker]

not sure, it is something we need to check

what I noticed sometimes is that volatility is low so the price will go up a few points not hitting TP1 and the going down

[zenith crown]

I'm thinking if I should try simply RR based and trail at any new swing low/high on the trend

mnq seems uncertain for now

[night flicker]

you can test it, let us know how it goes if you can

but don't enter on real money

[zenith crown]

definitely just backtesting

[random sage]

beautiful smart trail

[ancient marsh]

Little early for me but yes it worked nicely

[toxic widget]

not bad for a Friday, considering it's automation lol

[night flicker]

NICE

I am thinking of copying it on futures

[toxic widget]

still working on it, Mish

[night flicker]

Brent = CL
Gold - GC
US100 = NQ
US500 = ES

yeah but to test the idea of it

not on real money until it is ready

[toxic widget]

best guess is that you need to combine with key levels

system picks any potential deal, while a confluence with key levels will give you more peace of mind and confidence

it's what we aim to add next

[night flicker]

why not do SL at small support and resistance?

[toxic widget]

in days of madness it's not picking the right deals

[night flicker]

Seal once showed that it went down and then went for BE and you got out

[toxic widget]

it needs a human touch now and then for those days

[toxic widget]

it's an idea

[night flicker]

yeah but trailing SL with small swing low / high

wish I had the time to help you with it lol

[toxic widget]

currently, it uses ATR

[night flicker]

too busy on the futures side, hoping to finish the strategy building soon

[toxic widget]

yeap, any help would be great lol

[night flicker]

then I will join you guys

[toxic widget]

especially ideas

[night flicker]

did you see what Micky shared in stocks?

[toxic widget]

great, looking forward

[night flicker]

maybe use the idea as well

[toxic widget]

nope, have not been following the stocks chat lately

hint me

[night flicker]

he looks at the 1H chart to see whether the matrix oscillator is green / red, then he looks for trades accordingly on the 5m

[toxic widget]

oh, using the new matrix

[night flicker]

#📈stocks-futures-chat message

[toxic widget]

have not been using it yet, but it is a magic addition to strats

looking now, thanks

[night flicker]

and probably adding your concept of money flow slowing down and the idea from the new lux video with money flow far / close to the line you can get maybe better entries / exits

[toxic widget]

entries are not an issue, yet. exit strategy is 🙂

[night flicker]

so use it for exits😉

[toxic widget]

liked Micky's idea

will pick his brain up as soon as I can and find him available 🙂

lately, the NY session is nothing but a turmoil of illogical moves 🙂 especially when there is no established trend

[night flicker]

on small TF yeah.. seems that way

btw, lmk when you get access for options data

[toxic widget]

will sure do

[night flicker]

btw, he seems very good

he also shared tons of stuff on the stocks channel

[toxic widget]

Micky's one of the best there is

[fierce hatch]

I keep falling behind on the chats. I will take some time and read all of them..

[toxic widget]

also a veteran around here

[night flicker]

and and him is ak iller combo lol

[toxic widget]

still keeping the 100% intact, Mish:

[night flicker]

UK timezone?

[wraith wharf]

I just woke up and missed two good trades, one short and one long, heres the long that I saw.

We broke internal sell side liq - had ChoCh/MSS - FVG was given and here was a 1:1.5 RR back to discount on the big drop

[toxic widget]

yes, you have the time of opening in Seal's channel

they all there

pretty sure you have access to it

[night flicker]

yeah I forgot lol

damn a good day for the strat, when did you wtart with the pilot?

[toxic widget]

yesterday and Wednesaday was a mess, but today it's 100% lol

and running deal also green

sorry, blue 🙂

[night flicker]

gm Forseti, just a question wouldn't it be better to waith for the 3rd / 2nd touch, taking into consideration that the price had a FVG basically with the candle of the MSS and the next candle retouched the FVG I think you are supposed to wait for a re-touch

[toxic widget]

well, no longer :))) a nice sharp fall

[night flicker]

10 winning streak I think thats good enough lol

[toxic widget]

I guess lol

[wraith wharf]

You can wait for the reenter for it if you wanted that is up to you

[night flicker]

but since you used the 15m as well so maybe just enter, it is different than the basic strat

[wraith wharf]

You should be entering on the 1 min. I use the 15 min for stronger market structure confirmation

I didnt get entry on this short either

[night flicker]

why entry there?

also, didn't we get a re-entry then now?

[wraith wharf]

Because I usually enter on FVGs, yes we did come back for re entry but it now looks like were chopping around. Im going to wait for more structure because looking for 1 more trade. If not Ill start my weekend early 🙂

[night flicker]

not sure I get how you trade, for a FVG to happen you need the candle that you entered on to close first

[wraith wharf]

Yes, the FVG needs to be formed first, then price goes back to fill in the FVG, thats how FVGs work. Price goes back to those spots

FVG, breaker blocks, and some Order blocks would be entries

[night flicker]

yeah I saw that one as well, the only problem with it is that it grabbed to much liquidity to the upside so noot worth entering (?)

[wraith wharf]

It could have been a good scalp if you wanted to take a few points, but correct.

[night flicker]

yep, maybe the good trade there was SL at the top of the FVG and TP at the liquidity

[wraith wharf]

I know overall NQ is extremely bullish the last week, if you look at the daily chart its nothing but going up. So my bias is been knowing we have better longs

[wraith wharf]

if you draw a fib on that as well it hits the 50% discount as well. thats a good short. But I think we still head back to buy side

[night flicker]

do you draw your fib from top to bottom or from FVG top to FVG bottom?

[wraith wharf]

the swing

[night flicker]

can you screenshot what you mean, I think it would be simplier than me trying to explain what I meant lol

[wraith wharf]

1 & 2. from the top to the bottom with the FIB
3. We retraced to 50% discount area
4. FVG was there and so that would have been a great entry

[night flicker]

ohh I see

yeah I wanted to short there, especially with that candle at the latest top

[wraith wharf]

Market is chopping around now, I want to see if we break out of this range either back to the up side which I believe we will or lower

[night flicker]

seems like that since the fib 50 is really close to that FVG from the open drop, it is worth still entering on that FVG especially with the day still beein bearish

[wraith wharf]

Its proven its worth lol.

[night flicker]

and instead of riding it all the way to that liq grab you can ride until the latest small swing

OR take a few ticks before that liquidity

like this

250 ticks each one

[wraith wharf]

Absolutely, some good scalping if your willing

[night flicker]

yeah, and the RR on these 2 is crazy

4.8 RR

taking SL at the upper line of the golden zone

so a fib on a big move + an FVG inside that move seems to be a good combination

something that I will look out for in the future

also, it got rejected before the TP but might go back down for the TP lol

[wraith wharf]

Yeah thats called the discount area, or if you use LUX is called equilibrium

[night flicker]

yeah but you want and FVG inside that as well

[wraith wharf]

Yeah market seems to draw toward for sellside today

[night flicker]

yep, broke it

will it return for another hit? lol

[wraith wharf]

Waiting to see if it rejects this FVG or creates another MSS

[night flicker]

don't like this FVG much

even though it is better to draw the FVG by yourself, the silver bullet indicator doesn't see it as an FVG

but you get the FVG at 362.5

[wraith wharf]

Yeah, I like to draw them in myself, the indicator takes them away after a while

[night flicker]

not the silver bullet one, lux does remove them if they are eaten too soon, thats why I like when both confirm it

[night flicker]

yep, one thing that I noticed is that the FVG 0.5 line is also a bit strong

so when the FIB + FVG 0.5 agree, it would most likely reject there

[wraith wharf]

To me thats a better setup, but it looks like its rejecting from the FVG below

We'll see, I may not trade since this looks choppy to me

[night flicker]

yeah it isn't a AAA trade, but since the price is a bit choppy we take small trades (considering the volatility the usual ICT trades)

[wraith wharf]

Yeah only looking for 1 - 2 trades a day, since I woke up late I missed them

Looking at the 15m, looks like we swept SSL again

[night flicker]

@wraith wharf

[wraith wharf]

Beautiful scalp!

I wouldnt look to short now we are breaking structure to the upside again. and we didnt make a new low

To choppy for me. I might start my weekend early

[night flicker]

yeah I noticed that too, it rejected too soon for another short,

removed the entry there and now waiting for a long entry

needs to re-test that middle FVG

on ES

on NQ waiting for entry on the the big FVG, want to see it fly to that first FVG with the two 250 ticks trade

and CL I think its a clear short but it is holding the price

[wraith wharf]

Is is trending up for me, this is what Im seeing as a possible scalp for CL

[night flicker]

yeah forget about this one, even though it was clear when I placed the order, it isn't now lol

[night flicker]

looking for the same entry lol

[wraith wharf]

NQ is rejecting the bearish FVG so its looking choppy to me

[night flicker]

@wraith wharf with today, it seems that a entry on the top FVG is the best

it doesn't pull back much against the stracture

[wraith wharf]

You talking about NQ?

[night flicker]

thats ES

[wraith wharf]

Oh, I havent looked at ES

[night flicker]

thats NQ

if it pulls back to the lower ones, another entry, but don't think it will

[wraith wharf]

Nope, thats a good entry

[night flicker]

thanks, the best thing is that it grabbed liq before rejecting

gtg cya later

have a good weekend

[wraith wharf]

Take care!

[night flicker]

❤️

[barren lintel]

lol been watching CL all day bounce off this 15m FVG. Got in on the last touch and got out at 25 ticks. and its still moving up. rip

[wraith wharf]

Seems to me everyone here is trading well! Good job!

[barren lintel]

Yeah I personally think I need to stick to higher tf's

[night flicker]

another trade lol

didn't enter, wasn't home but a clear trade

that upper area is the same FVG that I took 2, 250 ticks trade before..

this one was 178 ticks since we created another low above 250 ticks profit

didn't enter on the first touch, price broke and went down to confirm liq grab + downside momentum = entry on FVG

[copper nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-where-green-gif-24563968

[wraith wharf]

Hell yeah! Today was an amazing day of bread making 🤣

I just got back from some appointments, so I couldnt take it.

Also Monday is a Bank holiday so there will hardly be any volume, maybe a setup but Tuesday will be back to normal.

[night flicker]

am not rich on Monday????

fuck me

thanks btw, I like the way yo u look at the chart

[night flicker]

no green fuck them

[wraith wharf]

Nice and easy to see right? Your welcome!

Looks like CL would have hit TP too now that Im looking at it

After overnights pull back. CL hit 71.94 after talking about it yesterday.

[night flicker]

this one was worth 300 ticks at the end of it

from top to bottom, this time it had a lower low after the previous push so it was bigger than 250 ticks

was a bit afraid to ride it for 300 ticks

only NQ did 1.13k ticks today

and ES 150 ticks
CL 30 ticks

have a great weekend everyone ❤️

[warm coral]

great! what was your stop loss?

Can you also post the trade with the time you took it and timezone? thank you!

[wraith wharf]

You too!

[night flicker]

Not near the pc, will share tomorrow

[nimble vale]

Nice Friday! Have a good weekend

[frosty oracle]

HOW

Quant strat for me this week

[autumn thistle]

Wow, very nice, well done.

[frosty oracle]

@night flicker Did you made the yellow one by your own or is it all from an indicator?

[azure shell]

i feel like your rules are a bit off at least from what i know of the OG strat

Price above or below the 50 is fine
ADX rising is the only variable the number is irrelevant
RSI rule is slanting up and already above or below the 50 not passing it
Lux candle change to red or green not purple
Also you can use smart trail and the ADX-RSI indicator to get more confluences like move matches trail color and ADX-RSI show matching green or red dot

All these rules only apply to the first candle that changes. If all the rules get hit further in to the move its not applicable to the system and you will have to wait till the next applicable signal.

Ill show the qualified trades from today at least what i can find gimme a sec

first signal of the day and you could take it if you want but i didnt as there was a missing confluence with no dot at the bottom

if you did take it it would have been a loss at the 80/80 SL/TP

second signal follows all confluences and hits full profit on 80/80

all these are trash due to the smart trail being red and no rising adx

next signal that meets all but one confluence is up to judgement whether you take or not but it goes full profit

up to you on this one due to wrong trail color

no adx

first actual loss following all confluences

no adx

and to end there were 3 entries all fine to take

first one is judgement on higher risk due to less confluence

[random sage]

I just have the circles no more lines for me 😂

[azure shell]

5-1 if you only trade on full confluence

[azure shell]

yeah i just mouse over and line it all up if everything is there i pop the trade

i actually took that first trade of the day and it worked out because i got in late half way up the next candle which happened to be green and gave some more room

i was still waking up

[random sage]

What bracket order were u using

[random sage]

40 sl was just tooo tight 😂

These weeks results with the OG coming out victorious

[azure shell]

80/80

[copper tiger]

Is there a document for this strat

[random sage]

Yes i shared the link the to trading view for them

[zenith crown]

Have you thought about using nearest swing point as SL? But then it comes variable SL distance means variable size of contracts to fix the size of risk🤔 execution will be less convenient

[clear cedar]

Check out the high of NQ for the week of 1/31/22 3/28/22 and 6/12 .... within $0.75

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[random sage]

https://tenor.com/view/shenmue-shenmue-double-whammy-double-whammy-double-shenmue-double-gif-26119772

[random sage]

Could be worth looking into

[night flicker]

NQ

[night flicker]

its the silver bullet indicator

I think I shared my chart before

[random sage]

Seems to be pretty money

[night flicker]

I mean.. yeah but it takes a while to master this shit.. not sure I matered it lol

[wraith wharf]

Even with 2-3 micros I still make decent money on it because it's good RR. I switch between my live and my evals. Trying to get that big account for more leverage 🙂
Also OG strat and Smart Trail strat are good money too so this channel has it going on!

[night flicker]

yeah, the smart trail and OG strat are nice strategies to use, personally I don't like it much

[wraith wharf]

It's whatever works for you. I know there are plenty more strategies that work for others too like breakouts and support and resistance.
I don't use the other strats either but I know if there are new people coming in there are options

[night flicker]

yep, everyone has different trading mindsets and look at the chart, its the main reason I had a lot of losses.. didn't trade the way I like

also, the nice thing about these strat is, since they are simple you can use them when you are still changing your strategy

imo with the wr that the strats have they are more of a side strategy to when you improving your own strat / finding your way around everything

[night flicker]

about the last trade, I entered since I saw price getting rejected on those previous highs so that FVG is still holding like before. Now I am also seeing that we had a bullish FVG almost on the same size so that adds another confirmation

if you are looking only at the high, its a good trade at the top with lower SL.. you get liquidty grabs there and a strong resistance + its the 50% fib line on the big down move we had on the open

[gritty crane]

Nice

[zenith crown]

To those trading the OG strat and would wanna try out the new v6 oscillator matrix, and improvements based on @nocturne sigil's trading ideas and the original OG strat's trading ideas @random sage @nimble vale
I should also be adding these:

1. any HTF as context filter (previously I'm mostly MAs to determine trend), personally I'd like for example 15m

• so I'd want to see at least 15m showing some OG signals (colour candles, smart trail and RSI+ADX)
• since my higher timeframe (1h, 4h etc) has been bullish, any red would be considered short term pullback and I won't take any short trades to take risk
• I'd wait for 15m to show blue candle, blue RSI+increasing ADX, blue smart trail, (v6 oscillator matrix: money flow blue curving up, hyper wave blue curving up)

2. 1m TF as execution TF (to find any OG signals)

• with filtering from v6 oscillator matrix: only with money flow blue curving up, hyper wave blue curving up (if things are in red but curving up I'd skip because red means the momentum is still within the bearish zone and bearish momentum is reducing (hence the curving up) doesn't mean bullish to me)

As an illstration:
1st entry would be filtered because HTF hasn't closed with bullishness
2nd entry would be filtered because HTF just flipped slightly interruption of bullish momentum (hyper wave red, RSI red, ADX down = can be choppy) and 1m TF money flow still in red curving up + hyper wave moving up but below 50 = still within bearish zone showing some potential but risky (confluent with HTF that might see some choppiness that resulted in 1.5 hour chop)
3rd entry would be a winning one because HTF is clean, 1m is also clean (money flow red to blue, hyper wave been blue and above 50, same as RSI, ADx moving up

[nimble vale]

I like that!

[frosty oracle]

Can you share it on TradingView?

[night flicker]

Nice! looks good, how long back did you back test it?

[zenith crown]

More like 2 weeks of 15m on top of the 1 month backtested data for OG strat as I was trying to figure out a systematic way to add filtering.

My idea is to identify "order flows" (not meant to refer to any smc/ict version but more like to identify where money comes in in a general sense). And seeing money flow and hyper wave flipping/curving up/down seems to show me order flow.

[zenith crown]

sure let me do the markups to illustrate it more properly

[golden gale]

hello, who doesn't trade on signals on 3commas? tell me in bone how to filter the signals correctly?

[night flicker]

What was your wr for those 2 weeks?

[somber furnace]

4

[north marlin]

any idea why MNQ Sep23 on ninja trader is diffrent from MNQU23 on trade view?

[barren lintel]

Different how? screenshot?

[north marlin]

the prices are diffrent. I have payed data feed. they should be the same

[barren lintel]

not sure man. they are the same for me.

Grab a screenshot showing the differences

[azure shell]

It looks like TV is a few minutes behind

Are you sure you're logged in and everything

[north marlin]

yes

[azure shell]

i would ,ouse over the orange D

see why youre on delay

[barren lintel]

It says delayed at the top. You did sign up for CME data on TV?

If you just signed up for data, you may need to close TV and reopen

[north marlin]

thanks, i didnt notice that

[frosty oracle]

What does that mean?
The Account type is correct ...

[north marlin]

maybe you didnt pay for data feed?

[azure shell]

i forgot market was closed today

[frosty oracle]

Why? Maybe this is the reason it is not working for me today?

[frosty oracle]

It worked fine on Friday and the whole last week 🙂

[night flicker]

I wonder if this trade will work

not entering today on live, only paper or just placing trades on the chart

[azure shell]

i would be careful getting in to any large moves since liquidity will be super low

[night flicker]

yeah thats why I won't really enter

just interested to see if the market will move at days like these

[analog matrix]

little bit of a snipe here

sorry @night flicker

[night flicker]

what for?

[analog matrix]

being on opposite side of market.

My b idk if thats weird me and my trading buddies do that when were in opposing trades and one of us hits TP

[night flicker]

lmao in the end of the day thats the game

and again, its not real money hope it was real money for you

[night flicker]

yep, didn't work

[analog matrix]

❤️ much love, I trade apex. Funded a few 50k accounts

[night flicker]

ES been crazy on ICT today though

I think NQ is for 1m and ES is for 2m in general

[night flicker]

btw, the last trade there wouldn't be this big of a TP in a day like this, maybe if market was open then the target would be valid but not when market is closed

but we will see

[random sage]

Have u been tracking these silver bullet trades?

[night flicker]

I am using them differently than what the guy who shared it is using

I use them basically to validate Lux FVG, if both see the same FVG thats the real strong FVG that I am looking at

the rest is pretty simple

Fib, trend and liquidity

I am testing a strat that my friend shared with me on Friday, you basically look for equal high / lows or a high / low that breaks a little above / under the previous one and creates a nice liquidity

then we are looking for a small ChoCh / MSS to enter with SL at the low / highhigh and TP at the previous high / low

so like this one

I am not sure about that short that we got instantly after the long, it seems valid I think

so like this

but if you were too scared to take this short look at this 100% valid short

oh wait sorry not 100% but still looks nice

the only reason I see to skip this one is that the FVG isn't yellow (silver bullet) + it was hit 2 candles after being created so it doesn't creat enough down movement

damnn didn't work

[analog matrix]

@night flicker what indicator do you use for your fvg?

i usually just draw them myself ngl

[night flicker]

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/sfNByvtL/

I changed it a bit though

I no longer use MTF I use just 1m / 2m

[north marlin]

MNQ snipe

[acoustic mist]

Hai mish
Use FVG BY NEPHEW SAM
IN trading view which is help full for you
Try that..

[cloud cipher]

@night flicker stupid question - would you be willing to give just a brief rundown of how you trade the fvg? I know fibs, trend, etc but I’ve never actually understood what I’m looking to do when a fvg appears.

[night flicker]

I will take a look at it, thanks!

[night flicker]

at the basics, you are looking for a market stracture to either directions with an FVG, when price comes back to the FVG you enter

BUT, to make it better, you'll want to look for liquidity grabs as well

so for example, on the last trade that I sent, you can see the the FVG was created after almost a double top, thats where the liquidity was eaten, then we get the FVG and price comes back to it and dumps

oh and you can also see the line that says "ChoCh+ / MSS" and even if you don't like that one since it's a small MSS, you can see that it broke the other small bottom before going back to the FVG so no reason not to take this trade

now, keep in mind that yesterday was a closed market day so the trades were a bit different but thats the idea in general

[night flicker]

ES 2m

about the last one, the proper TP would be the lower swing but not worth risking

but it was hit with any resistance lol

[golden crown]

@night flicker Hello, I'd like to ask if my short position is placed correctly? Should I wait for the CHoCH+ to appear? Thank you in advance. I just want to try the strategy you explained above.

[night flicker]

an entry there would be risky, personally I place my SL at the latest swing, in this trade it can also wick you out and if you place at the top it would be less than 1:1 RR which I never support

[golden crown]

Okay, thank you for the explanation. So, I should wait for all the new price action to confirm the short position with the emerging FVG.

[night flicker]

it depends on many things, sometimes I look for a swing even if it was yesterday and place TP there, but you want to see a good stracture to that direction

if the market isn't moving much to your wanted direction and you gave a small move with FVG and all the rest looks good, take a small trade

and if you missed some of the profit.. not a big deal

market opens lets see what it gives us

so the market open candle gave a good trade which I NEVER ENCOURAGE TO TAKE ON MARKET OPEN but the stracture itself looks nice

[azure shell]

OG win

[night flicker]

nice

damn I think that was NQ short of the day

ok I took it

lets see

5m explains why

[night flicker]

then same rules here, only ChoCh needs to be a bit stronger hence the entry being a few candles down

120 ticks profit now

took profit early

[ancient marsh]

I took profit at trail

All good we wait til next setup

[night flicker]

1 contract lol

[night flicker]

220 ticks target hit

damn missed 100 ticks ffs

ES and NQ showing reversal signs

[random sage]

Og 2/2

[night flicker]

and we in the green finally

BE

[low yoke]

OG makes that bread like you say

[worthy badge]

1009

[zenith crown]

markets moving crazy

[fierce hatch]

Probally waiting for the fed speakers this week..

[zenith crown]

passed another 2 evals

[fierce hatch]

I meant to say there are 2 fed speakers today..

[low yoke]

Good work! You using a trade copier? ive got 3 passed evals and need to look at something

[zenith crown]

yeah i do!

im using Apex trade copier

no issue at all so far just remember, for ANY trade copier (if you're planning to use one), manually flatten everything + cancel all orders + check positions and orders so that nothing is left

[modest jacinth]

what is Apex trade copier?

[zenith crown]

it's from apex (the prop firm)

i think you can use any but im using apex

's version

[modest jacinth]

thx

[plain dove]

Is it worth waiting for another discount for apex?

i want to try with the og strat but feel like 150$ is a lot for 25k + the fee when done

[low yoke]

Ok that makes sense. Best to be safe as well. You using ninja trader?

[low yoke]

You can still get 50% off pal. Sure if you use the original SAVE80
That gives half price. Try it 👍🏻

Save80 being the code

I think SAVE50 is a code as well

[ancient marsh]

No fill at the trail

[zenith crown]

yeah ninjatrader is the best imo lol

[zenith crown]

just wait for 80% to come out lol

these things drop very often

[nocturne sigil]

Nice ES move earlier

[ancient marsh]

Trail touch continuation winner

[random sage]

I’ll only buy 80% haha

[zenith crown]

yeah same XD

i just wonder coz i always see their 80% in the past

i thought it's like semi permanent lol

now i gotta wait when i need to buy more evals

why cant they just put up for 1 day and grab my money

[zenith crown]

i gotta say, i need to give credit to you mate
i analysed the market today using your techniques (money flow, hyper wave, 15m and 1m) to determine point of reentry and whether the environment remains good for OG strat trades

coz I recognize OG strat stems from the idea of momentum (kinda like trading with trend + momentum)
an uptrend overall can have downside momentum and we definitely dont want to trade those downs because we dont know how far down it will go

coupling with v6 oscillator matrix it helps a lot

[modest jacinth]

What is OG?

[nocturne sigil]

That’s awesome to hear. Even more awesome is that your finding a few things in other strats and putting them together to make your own template

[zenith crown]

i think it's "original" and is a strat from @nimble vale and other users made variants for their personal preferences and adaptations like @random sage you can search their names for the strat info

[zenith crown]

yeah like integrating knowledge into different things

with more filtering it's more confidence but also less trades and i like that (my personal preferences)

[nocturne sigil]

Keep the losses smaller

[zenith crown]

yep exactly

and i've come to realize that, if i filter out bad contexts (so that more losses will be incurred), then what are left are good context trades (more wins), and eventually scale up my winrate more like 10% more

so if i took a month of OG strat entries without filtering, I would've gotten around 55% wins but if I filter them it's around 65% something

[nocturne sigil]

nice

[zenith crown]

but absolute gain is also less (which is interesting)

but it's ok i like a more steady equity curve

and since im trading on a prop firm with trailing drawdown it's better to keep equity stable and increase overtime without huge dump

[night flicker]

0 volatility ffs

[ancient marsh]

Dip bought

[night flicker]

seems like this one was a valid one

didn't take it since it hit the FVG too quick and we had many FVG under

but in trending days it seems to be worth entering on the top FVG regardless

thats a 40 ticks trade on ES

I took a wrong trade.. wasn't focused enough, small day since I wanted to start with 1 contract and take it slow with ICT

migh finish here unless I see something interesting

took this small trade on CL lol

nice 21 ticks

recovered my losses lol

[wraith wharf]

@night flicker The two best setups that I saw today were

For a reminder, the best setups have displacement. You need price to have big moves when making MSS, I often see price inch its way with shifts then continues

[night flicker]

Nice! personally I didn't like that long, I saw it but decided to skip it

didn't feel like a real reversal yet

[night flicker]

ohh that makes sense

so when its small candles going slowly and creating an MSS you'd skip it?

[wraith wharf]

Yeah displacement is needed for the better setups. Otherwise I dont trust it. Having displacements is a show of stronger reversal, buyers/sellers are stepping up

[night flicker]

I see, thanks! I will use it for tomorrow

[wraith wharf]

So far so good though.

[night flicker]

I need to mix between scalps and these runners

I like these small scalps when there is no play in the market

grabbing 200$ - 500$ here and there and then a big move of 1k - 2k

[wraith wharf]

$200/day is still over $50k a year, Ill take small scalps anyday 🙂
Ive done it before

[ancient marsh]

Long trail touch try here

[night flicker]

I like the runners as well though lol

these big trades will let me leave it running and go do something else

[wraith wharf]

Its been nice the last week with these big moves. I know its not going to be like this all the time though.

[ancient marsh]

Google volatility in 2017

So bad

[wraith wharf]

I didnt start trading till this last year 😅

[night flicker]

yeah the volatility has been nice

[warm coral]

Thank you for posting this. can you please show the time as well and your timezone?

[night flicker]

btw, these trade are almost 700 ticks... DAMN

12:42

NY time

[warm coral]

Also, what was your stop loss to have weathered it all the way:}

[wraith wharf]

My live account is over $10k and I only use between 3-10 micros.
Im looking for best setups most of the time

So the idea is having oversized account and under leveraged trades. Even if I take a couple losses my winners are bigger

"To trade another day"

[warm coral]

I don't see the same set up on my 1 min chart though around the same time. Not sure why . Also, another question, how do you confirm that enough liquidity has been swept? equal lows? discount zone?Thank you

[wraith wharf]

That was on the MNQ chart, but it should look the same on the normal NQ chart.
Liquidity sits at highs/lows. After seeing a Market Structure Shift and displacement it means you have a good chance of price reversing.

[warm coral]

Thank you, I see it now , the price action order blocks blocked me :} good to know I don't have to wait for a sell-side liquidity signal. Thank you for clarifying!

[ancient marsh]

Winner

Here we go again, usually only take 1 touch

Scalped it for +12

[random sage]

Boys are eating today!

Og 3/3

[random sage]

4/4 😜😜

[ancient marsh]

Steaks tonight!

[past jungle]

Smart trail was decent too

[random sage]

I need to quit my job

[plain dove]

Wasn't there an SL hit at 12? Or am i doing something wrong?

[random sage]

No trades into the smart trail

[copper nexus]

exactly, people forget to break it down, consistency is key and small gains really do add up quick

[random sage]

Especially compound interest

If ur account grew by 3% each week

I think i put that in right idk lol

[wraith wharf]

Yup a millionaire in a couple years. But you still have red days and taxes suck

[night flicker]

yep, I think most are sitting at 2% a day

keep in mind that its only for the "small" amounts

[random sage]

My profit goal for a day is 1500 then i stop and loss limit is 750 which is 3 trades lost

[night flicker]

at some point you slowly need to adjust your risk and it slowly goes down from 2% a day to 20% a year which is also good

[night flicker]

yep, now if you sit on a 500k would you risk 7.5k a day?

[random sage]

Id risk like 1/10 of what i can lose

[night flicker]

and how much can you lose when its your own money?

[random sage]

So on my 50k account risk 250 per trade

If i got it to 70k id risk like 2 k… actually thats a lot idk

[night flicker]

usually people risk around 1 - 2 %

[wraith wharf]

If your talking Eval drawdown. You need to realize that the drawdown would be the size of the actual account.

[random sage]

Cross that bridge when i get there lol

[random sage]

Exactly

[night flicker]

yep

thats what I said to other people, Apex doesn't really need al the 50k for the account, they need only the 2.5k that is your drawdown

and when you pass it and reach drawdown to 50k they don't need to put any money with you

its you trading on your own account at that point

[wraith wharf]

Yeah no prop firm will ever risk that size of the account. They make plenty of money from peoples resets.

[night flicker]

resets and initials

also, to activate it you have to pay more

so for a 50k account at 80% discount they make like 200$ for it to be PA

and imagine all the people who failed.. I had to fail a few times

[wraith wharf]

Yeah, apex making bank lol

Ive seen other people in other discords doing 2-5 micros and making $500-$1000 a day. Thats low risk and high reward.

[night flicker]

and APEX still banking 10%

[wraith wharf]

Lol true. CEO probably like. Alright another discount more

He takes 2, Six month vacations a year

[night flicker]

lmaoo

idk if I ever could

[random sage]

Frigging darrell

[night flicker]

I think if I would take a vaca for more than a month I will fucking lose it

[wraith wharf]

Honestly this 3 day weekend, I got bored yesterday ready to look at the charts again

[night flicker]

lmao I backtested and learned some of the charts

[wraith wharf]

There you go, I should probably do that same next time

[night flicker]

yeah but I need to learn to rest lmao

atleast saturday and then learn / backtest on sunday

[tawny pulsar]

hello everyone

i am new here

would someone help me how to use the luxalgo premium indicator for scalps, please?

I tried to use today, and i lost everything 😦

what are the best settiings ?

[copper nexus]

where funded accounts get you is taxes, they consider you an independent contractor, you'll be taxed at a much much higher rate vs trading with your own $$

[night flicker]

yep..

for me its 47% instead of fucking 25%

[wraith wharf]

True

[copper nexus]

yeah its a big difference

[night flicker]

I don't intend of staying with them for too long

[wraith wharf]

Please Search Quant Strat and Smart Trail Strat in search, there are Trading View Charts linked in here somewhere

[copper nexus]

some countries only tax you on 50% of your gains too, like here in canada, you wouldnt get that same tax benefit with a funded unfortunately

[night flicker]

only till I get comfortable enough around futures and enough to start my own account

[copper nexus]

yeah exactly thats smart

[night flicker]

its between paper and live trading for me

[wraith wharf]

I do live mostly. I do have a 50k eval open with TakeProfitTrader but I havent been really into it

[night flicker]

try reading some of the chat first

I opened TickTick

they let uou withdraw instantly and pass in 1 day

[wraith wharf]

Oh? Cause the firm Im using is 10 day min trading and widthdraws from day 1

[night flicker]

took the 25k account, min withdrawal is 1.5k

the problem is that for the early withdrawal they take 50%

[tawny pulsar]

which chats?

[wraith wharf]

Ah, see I like the live cash account. The money I make right now I can widthdraw right now

[night flicker]

and with 0 fees

but with your trading style you can get big money quickly from Apex and stuff

[wraith wharf]

Quant Strat and Smart Trail Strat
@tawny pulsar
#📈futures-stocks-chat message

#📈futures-stocks-chat message

[wraith wharf]

I was thinking about doing like 20 50k accounts lol. Maybe Ill wait till the next 90% off sale for apex

[fierce hatch]

@tawny pulsar Many times I actually go back and take a little while to read all of the comments and questions. It have given me alot more knowledge of the system and operation as a whole.

[night flicker]

yeah lmao

maybe even take the 80%

[random sage]

I was gonna dump all my profits into my tfsa and max out rrsps lol

[wraith wharf]

Definately thinking about it, sounds like good money. I just dont like you have all these restictions just to widthdraw

[night flicker]

yeah thats BS

when they have 80% I'll probably jump in with 20 accounts as well

till then I'll be comfy with ICT and stuff

[wraith wharf]

Same 🙂

[random sage]

When I withdrawl,(lord plz be soon) definitely gonna put some away , and this will put me in the highest tax bracket lol

[wraith wharf]

That saving account better be looking good with that width draw.

CEOs would be like. Yeah we throwing a pizza party

Theres no way I can go back to a 9-5

[random sage]

U a full time trader?

[wraith wharf]

Yeah quit my job March of last year. Saved plenty of money to learn to do this full time

[night flicker]

gn peeps

[random sage]

Thats deadly man, so when u apply for something like a car or whatever what do u give as a paystub

[wraith wharf]

Everything is paid off for me while I was working but I'd assume you would show your monthly PnL statements

[wraith wharf]

Goodnight

[unique hatch]

can we get these pinned in the chat please.

or the links please?

[random sage]

That would be deadly if we could pin them, i usually resend them with updated trades to see what ones we took

Give examples and what not

Might just put it in my bio lol

Great day

[autumn thistle]

Very nice Sean, you're 100% using the Quant strategy?

[clear cedar]

every time i jump into trades at work i lose 😦

[random sage]

That and the smart trail one

[autumn thistle]

I'm going to try them on replay, see if I can make sense of them

10 micros, that what you're using, and you made over $2k today?

It's Tuesday BTW

[wraith wharf]

I think hes using 2 minis (20 micros)

Since hes got 2 targets

[random sage]

Oh shit it is Tuesday 😂😂😂 yea I didn’t count yesterday as it was a holiday

[autumn thistle]

I saw that, thanks.

hey @random sage looking at your PnL, seems more than there were trades today....

[random sage]

One sec i’ll share my chart almost home

I use the two strategies are u familiar with the og?

[autumn thistle]

No, this is a new thing to me. I developed my own strategy, whilst very impressive returns some days, others, there's no trades at all.

So, I'm super interested in those two, the Smart Trail & Quant

[random sage]

Yes same here

Quant = og

Different name lol

[autumn thistle]

This was my 1 trade today...

Got stopped out of the first one, which was the short

[wraith wharf]

Background is blinding lol

[autumn thistle]

lol, I'm on white, thinking on going back to black

I have come to rely quite heavily on the POC's in the Swing Volume Profiles indicator from LUX

it's like a treasure map

[random sage]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-shit-gif-10340128

[autumn thistle]

Alright, alright... I'll change it later

[random sage]

mnq

[autumn thistle]

Ooooohhhhhhh.....

Right

I suddenly get it.

[random sage]

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/Rb8RSMQC/

smart trail ^

[autumn thistle]

You enter when the candle turns blue after the touch

[random sage]

check that out

[autumn thistle]

I thought it was only when a blue candle touched the blue trail.

[random sage]

soon as blue touches blue buy

soon as red touches red short

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/dA5ugF73/

quant ^

its on jun i didnt wanna retype all of the rules lol

[autumn thistle]

Mmmm ...

I shall absort this awesomeness

[wraith wharf]

Back test some of it yourself. Also do it on Demo for a while. Compare results for a month or so then Id say go live. Ez money

[autumn thistle]

You are using 2 take profits?

[autumn thistle]

I'm seeing these TP's, they are not 100 points....

[north marlin]

@random sage what is the ADX RSI indicator you use?

[wraith wharf]

You can copy his strat by clicking the copy botton at the top right. Just copy down the text because this is on a different contract, so when you switch the text will be gone.
This way you have will it all. Then save the indicators as a template.

[wraith wharf]

The two TPs should be 60ticks and 90ticks

[autumn thistle]

I see that on the sheet, but looking at his chart they look smaller

[wraith wharf]

So I believe, dont quote me on this but I think they use a bracket order so soon as 60tick TP hits the second goes to break even and sometimes that gets hit second before continuing

[north marlin]

Thanks

[plain dove]

@random sage are you also risking 250 on the smart trail ones?

[low yoke]

100% steak night 😂

[night flicker]

ffs

missed on 1.1k right now

1 entry that I missed and the other it entered on a sim account.. forgot to change in NT

pain

[zenith crown]

didnt enter on OG

was trying to reenter but the setup wasnt too good

[night flicker]

@wraith wharf perfect setup 😄

I usually don't enter when the price doesn't leave the FVG but since it had a big wick I entered

[low yoke]

possible OG brewing

Maybe not lol

[wraith wharf]

Nice!
I just woke up lol

[night flicker]

lmaoo gm

[low yoke]

Some nice quick trail scalps

[wraith wharf]

That was the move 💯, did you leave a runner?
I'm going to have to wait for market structure before another trade.

[night flicker]

nope I took profit

but it was on a simulated account by mistake

didn't switch it in NT

migh not get another trade

[wraith wharf]

Ah man! But not bad doe. it's a good feeling catching those moves and seeing just green rake in lol

[night flicker]

yeah

at least my sim is up 700$ lol

I am up 1.3k with ICT atm

(taking into account those 700$)

[tawny pulsar]

is anyone here using ticktick fuding?

how works the drawdown after you have profit saved on your account?

does the drawdown is valid only for one day, or it cancel my account automatically if i reach it?

what i do not understand is for example:

my account is 100k
i in profit 20k,
so the total is 120k

but if i lost $3500 in a day, my account still positive with $116.500

am i allowed to trade again only in the next day?

or my account is lost, and I lost the profit of $16.500 left on the account?

[night flicker]

I think its capped at some point

keep in mind you have daily draw down, so on the 25k you can't lose more than 500$ in the same day but you can keep trading the next day

[tawny pulsar]

thank you

[night flicker]

didn't only because of Powell

not worth risking

[wraith wharf]

I don't really trade es much but that looks decent

With the current trend being super dumpy today and displacement was small I would have gone with a small scalp for that

[night flicker]

yep

the profit was "small"

[wraith wharf]

ES looking good for a long

Just need to get back to that FVG

Hmm or its just going to go without us lol

I guess this was the one. 😦
It had good displacement but something told me not to take it.

[acoustic mist]

can you share a TV link to your chart so i can copy those colours and indicators bro

[wraith wharf]

Im not using any lol. You can change the candle color in the settings

[acoustic mist]

Can u guide how to find msb/MSs and FVG

[warm coral]

@wraith wharf at some point you might build a strat on this🙂

[wraith wharf]

Its just ICT basic strategy, its not mine. I just learned from his YT videos

The strat is pretty simple.

1. Liquidity grab either from external or internal high/low
2. Look for Market Structure Shift with displacement causing a FVG
3. Enter on FVG and target a liquidity level.

[warm coral]

Good enough, thank you!

[night flicker]

yep, same

[wraith wharf]

I guess Im staying out of the market. NQ come back for a re-entry. I guess its because Powell is testifing this week.

[night flicker]

lmao saw the retest as well but not worth it

we had an MSS to the downside

[wraith wharf]

Yeah, its choppy right now.

[night flicker]

yep not worth it

ES short was nice

[autumn thistle]

I'm getting cut up here today.

[wraith wharf]

Yeah today is one of those days Smart Trail is getting washed up. I havent checked OG yet

[wraith leaf]

Got beat up today on MES

[wraith wharf]

It happens 😦

Its a breakeven day for me. Good luck out there

[night flicker]

have a good one!

[north marlin]

Had good day on NQ

[tawny pulsar]

are you using the luxalgo signal?

what settings, please?

I was on NQ today and did not do very well

[north marlin]

I was using quant strat with a little bit of free style.

It is posted above

[civic hemlock]

Same problem here also

[night flicker]

got out at BE ffs

for you new people who are asking whats the best settings for Lux.. lux isn't intended to be used alone or as a blind entry, it depends on whats your trading style and much more

we have 2 trading styles posted here that you can look for.. one is the "OG" aka Quant strat and the other is Smart trail touch

also, (sorry that I can't forget your name) someone made a filter for the og strat using the matrix oscillator, you can look for it as well

also, please don't rely too much on blind indicators I don't believe it will make you a good trader, but money is money

[azure shell]

yeah you have to be able to recognize chop

OG will get annihilated in a choppy market

[night flicker]

yep

[wraith wharf]

We could see more downside

[low yoke]

How do you guys recognise chop then? Or any tips. I always struggle

[wraith wharf]

Being patient and not being in a trade until your setup comes or if you dont have enough confluence with other indications

[low yoke]

Heya bud. So ive been getting in to this. Where my brain gets frazzled is knowing whether its a long or a short opportunity?

Sometimes i will look at the chart and think take it as it goes in to fvg for a short say and then it flys through it and comes back in to it for a long

[low yoke]

Ok cheers. Suppose it comes with practise with the markets as well.

[zenith crown]

imo chop usually is when things dont align, for example candle turning green but upward momentum is decreasing, or candle just prints wicks up and down

[low yoke]

Foes everyone try to avoid lunchtime trading?

[zenith crown]

i do

[wraith wharf]

Ive gotta run and do some errands, once I come back Ill see about finding an example for you

[low yoke]

Seems choppy and less volume

[low yoke]

No dramas. Appreciate the help 🤝

[random sage]

Days like today its good to recognize choppy and have a daily loss limit, mine is 750$ per account and my profit goal would be 1500$

[zenith crown]

how's your day? did you take any trades?

I reckon some entry opportunites for the first hour but didnt enter coz i wasnt sure

[random sage]

0/1 for me was busy today so not able to look at charts… thank god lol

[zenith crown]

yeah quite a choppy day after the first hour

moving very slowly

[noble oak]

NQ about to launch

[wraith wharf]

Just got back. Looks like its back to the upside it goes

[noble oak]

15140

if it breaks it then probably yes its gonna rocket in power hour, if it can't then back down we go

[wraith wharf]

Yeah I can see that

[noble oak]

now lets see what happens

we are there

[nocturne sigil]

You locked and loaded for a long?

[noble oak]

in one already

from 15113

[autumn thistle]

holy....

[stable talon]

what is your setting

why my 15min is diff than you

[noble oak]

your not on HA candles

probably

[nocturne sigil]

Yeah, on my template, with your 15m 5m, its rocking and rolling with the 5m entry

perfect text book on my scalp

but your gunning for higher TP's, I think?

[stable talon]

oh yeap

HA candle-.-

[nocturne sigil]

[noble oak]

I was but figured i wouldn't be greedy

[nocturne sigil]

yeah, close to last power hour, which they can slap you sideways

[noble oak]

exit at 15140 way more than enough for the day

[nocturne sigil]

[noble oak]

been there done that holding too long and back to breakeven 😂

[wraith wharf]

Nice trade!

[noble oak]

ty, the movement on NQ might be a little too scary for me though

might just go back to ES lol

[wraith wharf]

Thats why I love NQ

[nocturne sigil]

true true

[noble oak]

so in reference the reason I decided to exit at 15140 is because its right at the top of the smart trail on the 15min timeframe, the higher of the two that i use.

[wraith wharf]

Here is an example for today market happened not to long ago. Hopefully this makes sense to you, if it does then its the same way to go long after Sell Side Liquidity is taken.

[cloud cipher]

@noble oak mind giving me a quick rundown on your strategy you are using? I looked back in a few of your posts and see you mentioning moneyflow and overflow. That is one aspect that i have noticed is FIRE on the new matrix. when that overflow stops....get ready....its reversing. have you figured out the details of this? Is this what you are doing?

[low yoke]

Right ok, that makes sense. Ill do plenty of backtesting to get used to it. Appreciate your help on this pal 🙌🏻

[night flicker]

well, thats why you determine the stracture first, which way does the chart go generally?

thats why we use MSS

[noble oak]

Don't expect a whole lot of movement with sydney but tomorrow morning will be juicy

[autumn thistle]

In your earlier trade, are you looking for the green candle, green money flow and green trend catcher for that long?

[noble oak]

just everything on the matrix both timeframes, the candle color of lux where the smart trail is on both charts are we in an uptrend a downtrend

etc etc

you just want as much confluence as possible

For example Lower Timeframe
Smart trail color +
Candle Color
Hyperflow
Moneyflow

Look at the higher timeframe for the bigger trend

lower timeframe for entries

you gotta know what your looking for and how your trading though, i might be in and out of a scalp in 2-5minutes you might want a longer trade

how long you wanna be in the position should determine somewhat what timeframes your looking at

[autumn thistle]

That's great, thanks Gemini, if it makes money, I'm happy with 1 min or 6 hrs.

[noble oak]

Like right now looking at this, there is no way i would just jump into a short here if i wasn't already in a position, i would wait for a pullback on the lower timeframe and LOOK for a short entry based off the 15min timeframe my higher timeframe

[autumn thistle]

Do you generally trade ES? I think I saw you do....

[noble oak]

ES NQ on my prop accounts SPX on my broker accounts

i mean if i see a really great setup just looking through the watchlist ill dabble in other things but mainly ES and NQ yes

ES, Spy, SPX - NQ , QQQ etc etc *

[autumn thistle]

I have been looking at some 'target' helpers. I have found a couple of good indicators.

[autumn thistle]

What would you be looking for on the 15m as a pullback point?

[noble oak]

im using the 15m as my overall trend so i'd be using the 5min for entry.

[autumn thistle]

You would just short any pullback on the 5m?

[thorny shale]

What's the name of indicator Robin?

[noble oak]

as long as i look at the higher timeframe and like what i see yes

timeframe/s

[thorny shale]

New to trading, but learning every day

[autumn thistle]

Thank you for that 🙏🏻

[thorny shale]

What setting you guys recommend for lux algo, oscillator for ES & NQ?

[autumn thistle]

They are the lux reversal indicator and the lux volume profile indicator.

[thorny shale]

Thank you Rubin👍

Any help will be highly appreciated 🙏

Lux indicator settings

[wraith wharf]

Here are a couple of strategies to look over. Heres Quant Strat aka OG, and Smart Trail Strat.
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You can also go back and read through this channel, tons of information tossed around.

[thorny shale]

Awesome 👌 Thanks Forseti

[lean fiber]

agreed. Those who chase breakdowns, get trapped 99% of the time

[lost lava]

when btc short?