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[ancient marsh]

Since it was flashing colors i waited until bar completed

Used bar low as stop

[arctic wolf]

#shit literally happens

[cursive cosmos]

long entry again here at the smart trail?

[random sage]

@arctic wolf

[ancient marsh]

Not for me but thats the setup

[arctic wolf]

needs to break that resistance line

@cursive cosmos ping me

[ancient marsh]

Whoever bought those highs for me, thank you

[random sage]

Og w

[arctic wolf]

where there's a winner

[ancient marsh]

Quite the reversal

Hmmm, do we take the trail?

[cursive cosmos]

next 30m demand zone appears to be around 14460

[ancient marsh]

You think we hit it today?

Thatd be a moster daily move wouldnt it?

[arctic wolf]

i cant even see 14460. would be quite a drop. can it go up first.

[ancient marsh]

Ill try 1 short if stays red bars at trail

[covert plaza]

Looks like bears have entered

[vast cargo]

GM Everyone: ES Charts with level: Trade safe

[warm coral]

Is this data from trading view? It seems it is wrong today. It is different from ninja trader data. Or maybe it is just me

I have a support case opened with trading view

[wraith wharf]

Try opening up the Contract ticker itself. TV needs time to fix the prices on some of the charts

After today youll want to switch to the next contract, TV should auto roll over and fix the prices by next week for sure

[cursive cosmos]

do you subscribe to realtime CME data?

[warm coral]

Thank you, it worked

[warm coral]

Yes, I did, Forseti's suggestion fixed it

[random sage]

Another w

[vast cargo]

Yes, from TV. I think I need to change the ES contract to June 2023. My believe was TV would do this auto change.

[covert plaza]

NJ has not rolled into September contract for indexes

FYI, daily volume for June and September contracts. June still has high volume.

[wraith wharf]

I would stay on ESM23 until next week the volume is more on June right now then September

Yeah what @covert plaza said

[warm coral]

I think you should try @wraith wharf 's suggestion

[wraith wharf]

Essentially it shouldn't matter to much as the price change should stay relatively the same. Its just different volume on contract which will eventually be merged

[vast cargo]

Yes, June contract aligns with today's figure. My ES chart with level worked. Although the level was off due to June Contract:

Alright this chart with June contract:

[warm coral]

Both updated charts are for downside movements

I believe the chart for upside was not updated

Thank you

[ancient marsh]

Can you see it now?

Impressive rollover so far

[arctic wolf]

not yet bud 😉

[ancient marsh]

Lol

[arctic wolf]

anyhow think ill call it a day. pretty fruitful except for a failing trail touch. good weekend all.

[ancient marsh]

I see it

[random sage]

Is there an alert for trail touch?

[wraith wharf]

Not that I know of

[random sage]

Another trail touch missed it :/

W too..

[wraith wharf]

I got in late still worth it

[random sage]

I shoulda too 😂

[wraith wharf]

Depends on the trend otherwise I wouldn't have fomo-ed in

[random sage]

Oh well always more to come

[wraith wharf]

Absolutely, patients is key and looking for the best setups possible

[hearty rivet]

had a sickk long

[wraith wharf]

That last trail touch to the upside was fire. Dont forget to leave a runner lol

[vast cargo]

Here you go for upside:

[warm coral]

Thank you

[zenith crown]

That one is nice! Did you do any backtesting on it? And how do you execute a trade is it on fixed contract size?

[wraith wharf]

You can also see the same thing here

Although Im just paper trading right now

I wouldnt live account trade this late in the day

[hearty rivet]

ive been doing this for months now

ICT has been doing this for 30 years

ive passed 7 accounts in like few days

[hearty rivet]

where is your liquidity?

[stable talon]

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lol

[vast cargo]

Blue box was important

Hope someone played/followed

my chart

[wraith wharf]

In the screenshot you can see a blue box on the far left, the sell side got swept. Price didnt make a new high then MSS happened with a displacement and FVG

[hearty rivet]

you are taking a short

so you looking for buyside liquidity which is by default orange colored on lux

[errant wave]

got rekt

[wraith wharf]

Yes, I also follow market structure, here on the 15min we got close to the FVG, so im my mind market structure down will continue on HTF

[hearty rivet]

very good friend

keep it up

[zenith crown]

Something I dont quite understand about ICT / the silver bullet entry is determining which liquidity being taken is the right liquidity grab to start the whole process of finding MSS, then FVG, then entry.
I've watched some videos from others some said using the session high/low as reference, some said using the swing high/low within the hour prior to the time where silver bullet entry is expected (10-11am).

Like for example for today, are these valid FVGs for looking for longs? they will turn out failed trades

[wraith wharf]

Sorry I dont know much on the Silver Bullet from ICT, I concocked my own strat using a little bit of ICT for reversals and Market Structure for trends, then using visuals from LUX with extra confluence.

Market is going to do what it wants. Its never %100, so you need to make your best judgement

[zenith crown]

@hearty rivet how do you normally determine which liquidity is the right liquidity grab to initiate the whole process finding MSS and FVG for an entry?

[zenith crown]

I can accept time based price delivery but if anyone would have ideas about how to rule-based determine the high/low for determining liquidity grab it'd be great?

[hearty rivet]

any liquidity followed by a strong displacement that forms an MSS and leaving a big imbalance behind

[copper nexus]

why dont you just use one of the levels scripts on TV? easier and cleaner then manually doing it

auto plots all the important levels for you

https://www.tradingview.com/script/d3i5kBmK-AIO-Key-Levels/

[wraith wharf]

Im not sure if this helps, did my best lol Im not good with screenshots

[vast cargo]

Thanks for the suggestion. If I compare my manual chart with AIO Key levels, what do you see the difference

[zenith crown]

@wraith wharf so you would be referring to HTF structures and find the significant liquidity level (to be grabbed )
@hearty rivet and you would be referring to the MSS/FVG effects following any liquidity being grabbed to determine
together I think I can combine into one so that once some significant liquidity being grabbed and once there are lengthy candles creating MSS and FVG would be considered the correct one to follow upon?

do you guys using ICT way enter with a fixed tick of SL and contract amount?

[vast cargo]

Look at my chart that I post earlier in the morning : #📈futures-stocks-chat message. I drew a blue box. Why do you think that box was important

#📈futures-stocks-chat message

Look at the price reaction around the blue box. These levels you can't get it from the indicator

[copper nexus]

colors and boxes dont really move markets though

sectors/bonds/t-notes/rates have more impact

[vast cargo]

Yes, those are market internal that you need to know, but my levels are psychological level which all depends on Price action, and ICT.

Why anyone draw support/Resistance levels. These are parts of PAC

[warm coral]

Thank you, did you change any of the settings?

[warm coral]

How did you get the FVG to show? I could not see it on mine, or did you draw it? Thank you

[wraith wharf]

I drew it in

[warm coral]

Thank you

[wraith wharf]

It would have shown up with the ICT Concept Indicator by LuxAlgo. The boxes will disappear though after its been filled or certain candles pass

[warm coral]

ok, I see. Thank you

[willow meadow]

are there funding prop firms for futures

[copper nexus]

you should check out tradervue, if you like journaling trades, its amazing

[zenith crown]

very nice! is right hand side table the smart trail entry? do you enter as soon as the candle closes after tapping into the trail or wait also for ADX and RSI to flash the same signals?

just wondering do you now do 20 mini contracts for 50k account size for OG strat and 30 mini contracts for smart trail strat?

[cursive prairie]

This is helpful for those Emini - ES traders

[nocturne sigil]

[random sage]

Just got touch it, green touches blue for long and red touches red for short

[zenith crown]

thanks! so it's gotta be entering on the new candle open after the candle that touches the trail (and need not to care about the ADX/RSI)?

[lean fiber]

Why you think it's helpful?

[random sage]

No just enter as it touches

[zenith crown]

I'll try backtesting them on this condition

are you also trading 60/90 TP now, 20 cons now (OG strat), 80/100TP, 30 cons (smart trail)?

[random sage]

Yes

[outer maple]

Thanks for continuing to track and adding the trail touches as well.

I've always had a little more difficult time backtesting thinking that some entries are subjective but they really aren't if all rules are met
The only iffy times come on the OG when color changes back and forth in chop from candle to candle

[ancient marsh]

That R though...impressive

[random sage]

Mainly its likes

5 rr

The average trail i found was like 25 ticks

[zenith crown]

and this is where the 25 tick SL is made? and if ideal the entry should be taken at a stoploss level placed at the bottom of the trail right?

[random sage]

yeap

[zenith crown]

thanks!! will test on those!

[zenith crown]

I always like higher RR system more and if this way we also get high winrate then that'd be crazy lol

[random sage]

Especially if u can buy like half way thru the smart trail rr gets huge, all of the wins this week were 100 ticks plus

[cursive prairie]

Hard to answer ur question.
But maybe this can add some primer

https://twitter.com/mkthelegacy/status/1667551882787672065?s=46&t=i9RoR16Cg544ImolEddTaw

HigherOddsSniper (@MKTheLegacy)

The journey to improve my algo never stops! I convinced wifey to take my daughter to Trampoline park and found my way to sneak in those extra 2 hours of weekend to work on my algo for July release of $NQ_F back tested product:)

Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 3:18 PM

[zenith crown]

This would be absolutely gorgeous man!

do you add any more confluence to it? like if candles remain green/red along the way and don’t break through MA50 some rule like that?

[lean fiber]

thank you

[random sage]

I’ll make up a thing here give like a lil bit swimming with the young one

[night flicker]

Yooo sean, sorry to ask this, but is it possible for you to make a chart for the smart trail strat with info on the side like you did with the OG? Much appreciated ❤️

[random sage]

Already made just cant share it on my phone lol

Or i havent figured it out be home soon 😂

[fallen cape]

With ICT - I hhave watched a lot of his mentorship content but live in NZ...does it really only work on the killzones or has anyone found a way around timings?

[random sage]

Smart trail Chart https://www.tradingview.com/chart/Rb8RSMQC/

[plain dove]

so prev candle color needs to be blue/red same as trail, and then if next candle touches smart trail enter?

[random sage]

As soon as it touches the trail enter

Or u can chance it and let it go into the shaded area more for a tighter stop loss

[plain dove]

yes but the prev closed candle must have same color as trail, else how would i know what color the candle is?

[night flicker]

Legend

[random sage]

Ah yes i see what your saying good point

Im still gonna do it when it enters before it closes but you can do it that way, let me know how it goes man maybe that is the better option

[cloud cipher]

Is this yours?

[cloud cipher]

@random sage add stoch and you will have slim to no losses . Once the PA hits the trail, wait for the stoch to flip back to matching color and enter on flip. You will give up a few candles profit at times, but avoid almost all fakeouts/moves through cloud

Then again, if you are using matching candle color you are already pretty darn safe

[misty sundial]

it isnt for everyone but this does actually seem quite effective on a 15s chart

[young pelican]

Could you please share a screenshot or layout of a sample?

[cloud cipher]

@young pelican

These are where it touched but you wait for the green stoch to confirm it’s bouncing

Otherwise you could enter and get this.

But in all fairness….the “extra” ticks you get on the wins when entering as soon as it touches probably offsets your occasional 25-30 tick stoploss

So really either way works

[young pelican]

Thanks @cloud cipher Great tip.

[desert hinge]

Thanks for sharing, if the white point of a red or blue candle touches do you enter or only when the colored body does?

[random sage]

Soon as the price enters

[zenith crown]

Thanks for sharing! I’ll test that I love how simple it’s and I think it’s overall the expected value will show how good a strategy is. Even if there’d be false breakouts the overall profitability is to be proven from results.

[random sage]

Definitely gonna look into this when im home for sure 🤝

[cloud cipher]

@random sage actually a Buddy of mine has been playing these rejections with options for months. I just confirmed he uses the 11 ema for confirmation of rejection before entering

[clear cedar]

Just seeing this from the week. Not in the docs specifically- create an alert with S&O, use the ticker rather than the indicator as the condition to set a price alert.
Select crossing, then in the next drop-down select the indicator - smart trail will appear as both ST and ST extremity, you want the ST.

[night flicker]

might as well start trading CL

[cloud cipher]

Not sure this is accurate. I think extremity is the cloud. Smart trail is the line itself. The strategy being discussed would use as soon as price crosses extremity as he is entering as soon as it touches the cloud

This would alert you as soon as price touches the cloud

[hearty rivet]

Yoooo

[clear cedar]

maybe i am missing the point but you can set up stral and extremeity

[cloud cipher]

The actual “smart trail” is the thick red or blue line. It’s the actual smart trail line.

The smart trail extremity is the cloud…technically the edge of the cloud

For smart trail rejection strategy being discussed, they say they are entering as soon as the price is in the smart trail….but based on what I’ve seen in the examples they actually mean in the “smart trail cloud” or “extremity”.

In order to set an alert related to that strategy, you would set price crossing the extremity, as that means you will get an alert the moment it’s in the cloud

If you set price crossing “smart trail”, that is actually how you setup an alert for a smart trail flip.

——
If you set an alert for just “smart trail” you will be notified right here:

As the alert is crossing the smart trail line - which is the definition of what makes smart trail flip

So i think what @random sage is actually looking for is crossing the smart trail extremity because he wants to know the moment it’s in the “smart trail shading” because he is looking for a reject. Smart trail by itself (not extremity) would not alert him until the smart trail was doing a full flip of direction from red to blue or blue to red

This is what you would use for an alert for your rejection play

[arctic wolf]

It's crossing smart trail extremity.

[clear cedar]

got you you could do this

[desert hinge]

Is anyone thinking on automating this strategy?

[young pelican]

Good to know, will test it out tomorrow. Just reversing would technically be Bullish vs Bearish right incase we want two separate alerts ?

[desert hinge]

Could it be botified?

[copper nexus]

yeah you can automated trading strats

https://signalstack.com/

[clear cedar]

do you use them?

[desert hinge]

Ok I'll act as a flesh bit for some days and if it works I'll try to do this

[copper nexus]

yeah ive used them for awhile

[young pelican]

I use others traderspost which only supports to Tradestation futures but no limit on webhooks

[young pelican]

Futures? brokers? ? Tradovate?

[desert hinge]

Looks like it works nice on crypto too

[desert hinge]

Scalped 14 dollars in an hour

Happy with that

Thank you my online friends for this

Looks like I'll keep luxalgo if it keeps working

[frosty oracle]

What strat did you use?

[desert hinge]

I'm checking the one Sean Clarke shared

Copied his chart

I had to adjust my stop losses near the trail

Because I lost a lot before setting the sl

1m timeframe

I think that with stop losses saving you from price destroying the trail it will work

Time will tell

[cloud cipher]

I wish someone could figure out a way to make an automated entry with tradovate from tradingview (without api access)

[rose basin]

what is best settings??

[night flicker]

@toxic widget

[rose basin]

@toxic widget please help me for 15 min timeframe whar is best settings??

[night flicker]

thats not why I tagged him

you can delete the message

[toxic widget]

yes, Mish. how can I help? 🙂

[night flicker]

look at the message I replied lol, you know how to reply to these people

[toxic widget]

lol

[night flicker]

hope it wont ruin your night

[toxic widget]

this question still remains number one 😛

have found a better answer now: no matter how "best" are the settings, the only guaranteed results are the ... loses :)))

[night flicker]

not much actually

[night flicker]

then reverse the start

[desert hinge]

Would it be possible to make the alerts activate when the candle is the same color as the trail it touches?

[cloud cipher]

I don’t think that is possible

@severe charm ^^

We can’t have candle color be variable of an alert can we? They want to make an alert when price action crosses smart trail extremity but candle color also matches

[unreal vault]

are we suppose to trade on june contract or september contract on NQ?

[clear cedar]

Follow the volume

[random sage]

Would be deadly but these happen so quick to get a deadly entry just gotta be on the charts lol

[night flicker]

@random sage about @ancient marsh strat, by taking 100 ticks, did it have a good wr?

[low yoke]

I use 50 and 100 on the OG strat

Done 4 weeks of back testing. around 52% W/R

[cursive cosmos]

anyone using the new oscillator matrix yet?

[low yoke]

Literally just had the notification on twitter

[fierce hatch]

Not yet but added to charts to start getting used to it..

I am already checking out the video...

[low yoke]

Interesting that theyve got rid of the other oscillators and it's just this one now 👀

[clear cedar]

i will do some backtesting before i use it maybe next week

[fierce hatch]

I was just noticing the same thing.. I wanted to use it in conjuction with the ones I have been using for a long time.. I will have a crowded chart until I figure it out.

[low yoke]

Probably bring them out in the legacy section

[fierce hatch]

Yeap they did...

[random sage]

A i posted last week’s performance

[fierce hatch]

I just added them back by searching LuxAlgo Legacy Oscillators v5

[night flicker]

this one?

[random sage]

yea!

[cursive cosmos]

wow choppy open

[low yoke]

Very choppy

[fierce hatch]

Too choppy.. After 10 there may be a decent change..

[cursive cosmos]

market prob waiting for cpi tomorrow

[fierce hatch]

Agreed.. We shold finially see what is going on.. I think it will come down to Core CPI..

[plain dove]

Do you guys usually wait a certain amount of minutes before starting to trade after open? i always waited like 15-30

[cursive cosmos]

not necessarily

[random sage]

🤢

[azure shell]

getting rocked

[wind rock]

Sep contract officially from today as per CME

[warm coral]

The prices are different, do you know why June is still available if sep is also available?

I've been using June today, I'm confused

[ancient marsh]

Chop until news likely

[wind rock]

Jun contracts expires on 6/16. Futures prices always different to spot/index based on no days to expiry, interest rates,future expected volatility etc. There will be more than one future contracts available not just one. Even Dec contracts are available with much higher price as ES/NQ are 3 month cycle

[warm coral]

Thank you!

[arctic wolf]

volume on sep was higher when i checked before

[wind rock]

Yes because professionals trade Sep from today

[arctic wolf]

yeah thats what im saying. anyhow im on sep now

[azure shell]

what a brutal day

[ancient marsh]

Havent made a trade today

[ancient marsh]

Reversal zone short was good, but i got out for only 3 points

[wraith wharf]

London closed, hopefully we can see more trends

[ancient marsh]

👀

Took +10 on that touch

Since chop fest today

[wraith wharf]

Its going to be a crazy week. Lots of news and FOMC

[zenith crown]

anyone took that long?

[wraith wharf]

This price action is poo. I took an accidental trade for 10 points but I dont think Im going to trade this, or much at all this week

Its good for small scalps which I might do but nothing crazy for me

[zenith crown]

yeah it was meh lol i ended up just breakeven with some points out

[wraith wharf]

Id take a break even day over forcing trades which end up losing

Weeks like this are always a struggle. Market structure isnt as good because everyone is waiting for these red folder moves. Not only that but its going into next week with a bank Holiday.

[desert hinge]

Hello and thanks for sharing that chart yesterday, where you able to check how the new oscillator works with that strategy?

[ancient marsh]

ES and NQ hit 15min premium zones

We gonna break out?

[wraith wharf]

I haven't looked since this morning, but damn it broke out nicely

There a ChoCh on the one min maybe a small short opportunity to the trail then back up?

Trend is strong though

I don't see any good trades for my edge so I don't think I'm going to trade still

[wraith wharf]

Anyone get any good longs today?

[zenith crown]

my og longs, could've turned out great but price actions too unclean lol

wicking up and downs lol

[cursive cosmos]

just waiting for cpi tomorrow morning

[icy mountain]

luxalgo signal + price action concepts = get rich quick

best setting signal overlays " default " is good

[toxic widget]

when you trade the trends, all good, mate

but when we move to ranges, you will need more data

[icy mountain]

yes it is for long term

[toxic widget]

plenty, mate. we got US100, US500, DE40, OIL_BRENT and GOLD. all great entries. tickers are Capital.com

well, oil was a short, not a long

[icy mountain]

I'm talking about crypto futures

heheheheh

[toxic widget]

you picked the only market where no rules apply 🙂

[icy mountain]

hahahah

[toxic widget]

with crypto market, only one rule works: follow the money

and the new oscillator is an amazing addition to the toolkit

PAC just for higher TF

and that's not really guaranteed 😛

signals will never work with crypto because of the stop losses hunt

example today

also, check all ChoCh and BoS

the moment you decide to start a trade on the next candle, price reverses

all of them invalidated

that's because algos counter each and every classical trading market structure change

do the opposite, however, and you would've had 100% wins lol

[unique hatch]

Need help guys. We got a scalping strat for Nq/mes futures. Trying to pass the prop firm evaluation and struggling

[hearty rivet]

if you got a scalping sstrat why the struggle?

[wraith wharf]

Heres a smart trail strat. I also know that theres Quant Strat too. Youll have to search for that one, its somewhere in here #📈futures-stocks-chat message

[wraith wharf]

I think hes asking for a strat

[wraith wharf]

Here is the one for quant strat #📈futures-stocks-chat message

[wind rock]

Today is last day for Apex trader funding 80% off sale (code LZJTWELD)

[plain dove]

Bulenox still has until 16th these ones:

[stable talon]

how@much is the performance account

[ornate raven]

Until tomorrow when they extend it

[vast cargo]

Discount is great, but their activation fee is very high:

[zenith crown]

Higher than apex

[nocturne sigil]

[ancient marsh]

👀

Tempted

[nocturne sigil]

[ancient marsh]

[nocturne sigil]

thats not V7 Matrix

[ancient marsh]

33k member, seems legit

Gotta be some traders in there

[nocturne sigil]

33k profiles hacked, LOL

[ancient marsh]

Hahahaha

[nocturne sigil]

I wouldnt click on it....

[ancient marsh]

No way

[nocturne sigil]

I dare you, maybe some good templates with Matrix

[ancient marsh]

I will if you will

[nocturne sigil]

you go first

[wraith wharf]

They about to get liquidated

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/im-scared-terrified-fearful-frightened-nervous-gif-13531883

[cloud cipher]

Were there even any smart trail Strat entries today?

[wraith wharf]

I believe there were like 2 or 3 after market open

[stable talon]

why i cant see the account after i purchase the 50k

[random sage]

it went 1/5 for -100$

Og did good was like plus 1000$

[random sage]

Not yet

[zenith crown]

yeah same for me but the price delivery was so shit lol wicks up and down and only slowly going up...

[wild gyro]

When is ES going to pull back? Hitting 4400

[plain dove]

What is the difference between rithmic and tradovate on apex

[past jungle]

Rithmic connections require a standalone program that you download on your computer. Tradovate you can trade right from trading view

[low yoke]

What ninja trader version is everyone using?

[arctic wolf]

Following the og strat to the letter you'd have lost five times in the first hour

[zenith crown]

I probably wouldn't take the open though coz those bearish prices are not in line with my bullish bias

[arctic wolf]

which is fine but saying the strat had a good day if you followed it to the letter isn't true. not saying you're saying that, just it was a shit show til half 11

[arctic wolf]

8

[arctic wolf]

ha ignore me. i can't even use the indicator i put together myself. it was a couple of fails. 10:05 10:24

[low yoke]

Anyone played around with the matric oscillator yet? Wonder if it has something that can be implemented to the OG 👀

[zenith crown]

ya sometimes it would be like that I guess it's about filtering bad context that can be done via higher timeframe. and just my personal opinion any strat requires some form of context interpretation.

[zenith crown]

sorry i was reading about tradovate and thinking if i can buy a tradovate account, have it connected on ninjatrader 8 with all of my other rithmic accounts, then I can (through Apex trade copier) execute trade on tradingview and have them copied through my other accounts 👀

[zenith crown]

I did ... not seeing any significant benefits atm imo (perhaps if anyone can shed some lights...)

[low yoke]

I'll have it open while backtesting this week and see if anything pops out. Need to read the manual etc as well. Never know, might be something in there for extra conluence

confluence*

[zenith crown]

sure thing, something that caught my attention is the money flow, overflow and threshold. They seem to suggest whether the market is ready to move (in the form of hindsight for example once I've entered a trade, whether I should close it earlier to protect my account from unnecessary drawdown. Say if the money flow keeps going up and overflow follows with price also moving decently before my TP level then I might consider keeping the position open for a while)

If otherwise, then perhaps the market is still not giving enough momentum to push price and I should exit earlier

[low yoke]

ok, thsat sounds interesting

either exit earlier or move that stop up to break even possibly

[zenith crown]

yeah sometimes when I enter and price is not ready to move, price action wise would be wicks up and down without real movement to either side. In this case I might want to check the oscillator for additional confirms

[cloud cipher]

2 questions on Quant Strat -

1. once you enter, do you just let it ride? Like even if candles change or smart trail flip….you either hit target or SL. You don’t cut early?
2. if at candle change all the conditions are not met do you just wait until they are met or is the whole section dead? For instance, if candles go green and you are below the 50…do you enter first candle above the 50 or do you not enter at all that entire section of green (wait for purple or red to reset it)?

[random sage]

1. yes I let it ride

2. not all conditions are met no trade, but there could be a tiny value in hoping late

[cloud cipher]

Thanks @random sage - last question - is your 45 a trailing SL or hard?

Would suck to get to +55 ticks and go all the way back to -45 😂

[random sage]

Yea it starts to trail after first tp which is 60 ticks

[cloud cipher]

You know i knew that already and had forgot - duh

And full out at 90

[wind rock]

NT8

[cloud cipher]

Is there a reason why these are run on MNQ and not NQ? 10 cons on MNQ is 1 NQ con. Wouldn’t you just do 2 cons on NQ?

[random sage]

Thats just for tracking purposes, on my actual trades i have like 3 mnq per tp and theres 4 tp’s

[cursive cosmos]

market about to jump up or down in 7 minutes

[low yoke]

This Wick 🤮

[cursive cosmos]

that was the cpi report

[low yoke]

aaahhhhh

CPI report good or bad?

[cursive cosmos]

"good"

[toxic widget]

can;t trade daily without the calendar opened, mate 🙂

[cursive cosmos]

https://tradingeconomics.com/calendar

[toxic widget]

in a day like today you can wipe out your account on futures

hence the advice of not trading the macro news days

or at least wait a few hours before entering any trade, on any market

[cursive cosmos]

seems like a small move for cpi report, no?

[ancient marsh]

Wait til market opens, but the print 1min candle 100pts

JPMorgan matrix, lets see if it holds true

[random sage]

fml, went short at like 10 yesterday closed my postitions then it left two mnq contracts and and left me 900$ short lol

super close to failing this PA now lol

damn trade copier

[zenith crown]

gotta flatten everything when a trade is closed lol

[random sage]

lesson learned

to save this PA i need a smar trail win lol

[cursive cosmos]

had an issue with the apex copier
their reply was "the trade copier should not be used in volatile markets"

[cursive cosmos]

to the yup side or to the frown side?

[zenith crown]

what issue was that?

[cursive cosmos]

the p/l was 100% off in either direction from one trade
order was placed as a market order in a relatively slow market

[zenith crown]

that's weird but I think I read something in the past people explaining it

so in a fast market when some account didn't have trades copied through, they left some open orders

[cursive cosmos]

according to apex the copier only places orders on the auxiliary accounts once the lead account is filled

imo the orders should be placed simultaneously without waiting for confirmation of the first fill

[random sage]

i have the repilkanto one and was using a ratio one for my 50k at 1.5 so idk ithat had anything to do with it

[zenith crown]

when you close in your main account, that instructions get sent to these left out accounts as an opposite entry order

[random sage]

i thought i checked too ffs if there was still an open one

[misty sundial]

I long straight into those on news plays every time i see one, its honestly one of my highest percentage plays

thankfully bulenox has no cares if i send it on news plays

it has a deep wick down, im long, every time

[zenith crown]

did you take the trail long 😛

oh it's breaking down

[plain dove]

if you long now after the news and before market opening, you need jesus

[zenith crown]

why is that

[plain dove]

Big ass gamble imo

[ancient marsh]

Opening balance breakdown , NQ

Back to the scene of the crime

Had a small long at 025 nq, nice little scalp

Greatly reducing size in this volatility

And taking profits , not holding for any huge moves

Reversal trail scalps for now

[desert hinge]

Do any of you use forex.com?

I always traded crypto

[copper tiger]

Its this crypto or forex ?

[desert hinge]

But want to start with forex

I need a broker with good tradingview integration

[copper tiger]

Hankotrade

[desert hinge]

And that can be funded from my credit card

[copper tiger]

Is good i use it

[desert hinge]

Can I find with credit card?

[copper tiger]

Its only crypto

Its a good broker 4,8 star

[zenith crown]

failed the first og entry... looking if a second one is coming up

[cloud cipher]

second one? @zenith crown

what time was your entry?

[zenith crown]

yep

entered

took like 34 points TP

about 11:10

coz I kinda missed the reentry

[cloud cipher]

oh gotcha

i wasn confused what you mean by reentry

when would you reenter?

[zenith crown]

but i should've passed..... my first one was a 3.6x losses coz my trade copier fucked up (my fault coz I wasn't aware 2 apex trade copiers were opened in the background, one with 2x set yesterday and one iwth 1.6x set today as I tried to reduce losses)

[cloud cipher]

9.45 was a win.

10.55 was a loss

[zenith crown]

so my winning trade scored me like 1.2k netting the (3.6x losses i incurred) i ended up just up $100 lol

[zenith crown]

i didnt take that coz it wasn't in line with my context

[zenith crown]

i reentered at these areas

coz I'm pretty sure it will break out

[barren lintel]

Someone turn the A/C on outside.. Bring a cold front or something.. damn its hot

[wind rock]

😂 I am at Boca Raton, FL

[zenith crown]

@random sage sorry to ping you mate, can I quickly ask, do you connect your tradovate account via ninjatrader 8.1 with all of your rithimic accounts and with trade copier any execution on tradovate (via tradingview) will be copied to all of your rithimic accounts?

I asked support the same question they sort of confirm me with a yes.... just thinking if I should ask you instead about your user journey

[barren lintel]

oof then you know its hella hot outside

[barren lintel]

@hearty rivet Are you just watching the chart all day waiting for an ICT setup or you using some alerts?

[hearty rivet]

Hey bro

Simple alert

And alarm

You can put alert on MSS

Then check ur chart once u get alerted of an Mss

Then see if preceding it was a liquidity grab and fvg formed

[barren lintel]

@hearty rivet Alright thanks. And are you only watching 1m?

[wraith wharf]

ES had a BSL sweep into a MSS created a FVG, but I dont trust it, weve been strong to the upside and I think we can to keep taking buy side liquidity.

[hearty rivet]

You can use 5 min

5 min if you gonna be away from charts or busy irl

1 min if you have time or if you are online during market open sessions and stuff

[hearty rivet]

Of course, if you want to do this right then look at 1 hour for liquidity sweeps once we take a side liquidity then you can go on your 1 min or 5 min and wait for a sweep MSs and fvg on there

That should help you set the intraday bias

Check my first YouTube video

[wraith wharf]

Swept it twice so far, MSS on the 1 min, pulled back into the 1m bear FVG. Weve been grinding up for a long time now, If I miss this trade Ill be okay with it

[hearty rivet]

On ict concepts

That should show you how to probably do this

To get those 100-500 ticks moves

[hearty rivet]

This is a beautiful setup

Stop loss should be higher. It’s inside an fvg

Take a partial at the intermediate swing low

[wraith wharf]

Oh im not in it, but thats the trade 🙂

[hearty rivet]

Paper trade it

[wraith wharf]

Im done for the day but good luck! Looks good

[hearty rivet]

Thanks bro you too

[sweet spade]

Nice. I was able to get in on that move on es

[wraith wharf]

I'm on a walk with my dog right now but damn that was a good trade back to sell side

[random sage]

glad i went to bed this morning lol... also no smartrail entries today..

[wraith wharf]

Wait? You went to bed? Damn you stay up all night?

[random sage]

Nightshift lol

[hearty rivet]

there we go

[wraith wharf]

Looking to go back to the upside?

[hearty rivet]

@wraith wharf @barren lintel

[hearty rivet]

your setup

[wraith wharf]

Congrats!

[hearty rivet]

that wouldve been a nice $2k trade

[hearty rivet]

i took it at 500$., using your own setup you sent here

ty bud 🙂

[wraith wharf]

👏 🙌

[hearty rivet]

using 2 cons, risking 200$ making $500 tp1 $1000 tp 2 $2000 tp 3

i wouldve let one run but im in a zoom lesson rn so closed full pos

[wraith wharf]

Green is green!

[hearty rivet]

indeed

[wraith wharf]

I do also like to combine what the trail does, the trail Id say would have had a better entry, lines up well with the FVG as well on that short.

[hearty rivet]

in my experience instead of trail and those indicators

use supply and demand zones

for example you are near a supply then prepare for a short, you are near a demand then prepare for a long

[wraith wharf]

That works too.

[hearty rivet]

sometimes we have a very nice supply and demand zone but the price doesnt touch them exactly just little away then blasts a move and you be like damn i was right but it didnt reach my entry?

well thats where ict concepts, most likely if you pay attention you will see that price took the liquidity already, formed a mss and filled an imbalance just slightly away from your zone

so it doesnt have to move into your zone. its already ready to make the move

in those cases look for an FVG near the supply and demand, and make your entry ther einstead of at the s/d zone

this is why we choose supply and demand zones or order blocks that have Fvg/imbalances near them

[wraith wharf]

Agreed its makes for better indication of entry

[hearty rivet]

if i waited for that nice supply zone then i wouldve missed the beautifuk move

[wraith wharf]

🧐

[hearty rivet]

if i waited for the demand i wouldve missed this 100 ticks on es aka 400 ticks on NQ

[wraith wharf]

Yeah I see. I dont really use Supply and Demand, because ICT doesnt revolve around that. I would be more patient to see how the move will react then make my bias and decision for entry. Although it does seem interesting

[night flicker]

that big green candle hit the FVG right?

that big green candle FVG

[hearty rivet]

yes that green wick

so you can put like %50 of your position on the fvg and another 50% position on the demand zone

[night flicker]

the only problem though is that you want to see a reaction for that FVG so you would probably miss it

[hearty rivet]

but this works just as good. i recommend this at market open, powerhour and near market close

[hearty rivet]

if price swept liquidity, formed a strong shift in market structure and consequently forming the fvg then you dont really have to see a reaction, waiting for such reaction can make you miss the move. Also if you have a demand just below it then all the better

[night flicker]

so just place a limit order at around the middle of the FVG?

[hearty rivet]

never at middle

always at top/end of it

[night flicker]

I used to do that on crypto once, place FVG on the 1H and then put fib on the FVG and enter / sl / tp at the 0.5 line

worked pretty well though

[hearty rivet]

but remember in my yt videos i always say use the prem/discount fib if your sl is gonna be wide

for example

[night flicker]

can you link it? I think I missed that one

I like that your videos are usually quick and to the point btw

[hearty rivet]

thanks bro appreciate it

i watched 3000 hours of ict so you dont have to xd

[night flicker]

lol yeah its painful

[hearty rivet]

let me find the vid

[night flicker]

but I need to get into it more.. I know how to do FVG and stuff but never actually used it for some reason

[hearty rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjs2x-_-gAw&t=51s

at 3 min i explain

[night flicker]

just got to it lmao

thats genius ngl

[hearty rivet]

yeah exactly

[night flicker]

do you do that only when SL is too big or when there's too many FVG next to each other?

[hearty rivet]

only if my sl is too big

or both really

the hft and algos

they dont work randomly they work based on a marker hence the name algorithim. one of the strong markers they use is fvg and prem/dis

[night flicker]

damn

[hearty rivet]

if you tried entering on every fvg you would fail because algos know you will do that

[night flicker]

also, those FVG the lux ICT drew by itself right?

[hearty rivet]

the secret is liquidity

[night flicker]

so adding bookmap makes it a killer

[hearty rivet]

after grabbing liquidity they start recongizing fvgs as valid, ofc the MSS is the necessary confirmation

exactly

every video i made on yt is solely made using lux ICT concepts

[night flicker]

yeah, you can also just wait to see a weakness candle

[night flicker]

so here it would be that fat doji-ish candle after the green hammer

[night flicker]

but the only problem is that you would miss the trade if the market moves too quick like this one

[hearty rivet]

this setup @wraith wharf sent, was used by ict concepts lux, liq and mss and fvg drawn by it. i took the trade ended up 500$ thank god, actual target was sellside liq and it reached there but i was busy and wanted to get out early

[hearty rivet]

no you wouldnt, if you notice, that chart is an 1 hour chart

we dont enter on an hour chart :).

on the 5m or 1m you will have the actualy setup

also to ease your mind, the beauty of this is that its not a all-in or miss-all kind of trade

if you miss the first fvg then you can enter on the next fvg, multiple setups following each other

let me show

[night flicker]

oh damn I thought it was a 1m candle

[night flicker]

yep, and 1 trade is enough for the day

[night flicker]

I will probably start with NQ and slowly move to ES + NQ + CL to not get tired at waiting for the chart to do something

[hearty rivet]

i got it at the start of the move

but suppose you missed it, you enter on the next mss and fvg formed, and if you miss that, then on the next mss and fvg

[night flicker]

can you draw a fib from the top to the candle of the FVG?

[wraith wharf]

Im not sure how CL would work with ICT concepts. I know its NQ + ES + RTY + YM are the indices

[night flicker]

so the 3 big red candles

[hearty rivet]

if you missed it you enter like that. if you caught the first move then you can add more cons every nexy mss and fvg

[night flicker]

CL seems to work nice on S&R in general

[hearty rivet]

i use this on NQ 99%

very rarely on ES, if im busy i go on ES

[hearty rivet]

all those pink rectangles are fvgs

preceeded by a market structure break

[night flicker]

yeah, but I will be on it the whole day so waiting for the perfect trade and not do anything for a hour / 2 will kill me

[hearty rivet]

let me see

to draw the fib

follow these steps. liq grabbed, mss formed with strong displacement forming fvg. we are gonna short. so we start the fib from the highest candle wick that just before the mss and end the fib at the lowest point formed after the mss

[night flicker]

mss = market stracture?

[wraith wharf]

MSS = Market Structure Shift

[night flicker]

oh thanks

[wraith wharf]

Means market is shifting to reverse

[night flicker]

aka market weakness..?

[hearty rivet]

as such

MSS is another word for market structure break another word for choch

[night flicker]

not like this, from the top to the bottom of the 3rd red candle after

[hearty rivet]

its our confirmation that the current trend is reversing

[night flicker]

wait I'll just do it lol

[hearty rivet]

so we grabbed liquidity then saw a mss, it confirms that we reversing. if we grabed liquidity and not formed mss, it means this isnt a grab of liquidity it means its a continuation of current trend

[hearty rivet]

show me xd

[night flicker]

nvm, nothing special lol

[hearty rivet]

if you are talking about fib from start to end of a FVG then thats a different concept. called a word i cant pronunce but i will make a video about it later, called encourshment or something, you make the fib 25% 50% 75% and 100%

and best used on daily tf, price loves to hit the %50 encourshment of a daily fvg before reversing

dont worry about that for now, ofc if thats what you were asking

[wraith wharf]

Heres an example on the 5m

[hearty rivet]

i will soon make a video about inverse fvg and something so cool, volume imbalance

[hearty rivet]

awesome

[night flicker]

so here you had 2 trades on the same FVG right?

one instantly after the FVg formed and then the current one

[wraith wharf]

I dont trade this late I was just showing an example of how ICT works. The MSS is a indication we are switching directions, as long as we have a FVG and displacement it can be a valid trade. Among other smaller details

[hearty rivet]

its best for the price to move away from the fvg and return to it, if fvg forms and next candle is close to the fvg and touches it then i wouldnt enter tbh

or what i usually do is

5 min liq, mss and fvg

i go on 4/3/2/1 min

find an fvg

[night flicker]

do you stay on the same TF to enter the trade or do you go for lower TF as well?

so for example if you get a FVG on the 4 minutes, will you wait on the 4m or go for the 1m and look for a trade there as well

[hearty rivet]

you got over 10 one min candles

giving you enough time to enter a trade

[hearty rivet]

if i get a liq, mss and fvg on 4m ill enter on 4 min

sometimes you get a liq grab, and an mss but no fvg lets say on 5 min

then go on 4m, or 3 or 2 or 1 you will 100% find an fvg there you can enter on

[night flicker]

so you jump between the 4 TF until you find the combination for the trade?

ohhh

[hearty rivet]

yes

[night flicker]

so you need a combination of the 3 on those TF, so you can get MSS on 5m, liq grab on 3m and FVG on 1m and you'll enter?

[hearty rivet]

if liq grabbed and mss formed on any tf, i look for an fvg either on same tf if i dont find then i drop a tf until i find one and enter on that

nah, liq grab and MSS and fvg on same tf, only if fvg is not present you move to a lower tf to find only the fvg, not a new mss or liq grab

[wraith wharf]

Lol yup, it may seem complicated but once it clicks its almost EZ money in the market, I combine ICT with a little bit of other strategies to get more confident trades

But I love that LUX has provided all this, once you know how to use it, its powerful

[cobalt wave]

Hi 👋 All

How is your futures trading going on

[night flicker]

#🚀crypto-chat

[cobalt wave]

Is this generic futures chat ?

Or specific to some category ?

[night flicker]

ohh I see, so liq grab and MSS need to basically be on the same TF

[hearty rivet]

look

liq grabbed, mss formed on 5 min but no FVG

[night flicker]

I mean.. you can talk crypto futures here but it is mostly talked over on crypto chat

here is more CME futures (traditional market)

[wraith wharf]

This is techniqually Futures but more along of Indecies

[cobalt wave]

Do you guys trade crypto ?

[night flicker]

so now you look for FVG on another TF?

[cobalt wave]

Oh I see 🙌

[night flicker]

regardless.. good trade

[cobalt wave]

Do you use free indicators from Lux as well ?

[hearty rivet]

i drop to lower tf and found one on 3m i enterd on it

[hearty rivet]

yeah exactly

[night flicker]

I see, thanks!

[hearty rivet]

90% of time liq mss and fvg form on same tf

[wraith wharf]

Yes, the ones that compliment my strategy.

[night flicker]

I'll market replay this tomorrow when I get more time, its probably way simpler than it seems at first lol

[cobalt wave]

Would you mind sharing your strategy ?

[night flicker]

especially for someone like me that has experience with the market and doesn't need to learn most of it.. just the strategy itself

[wraith wharf]

I use a little from a couple but from a couple strategies, I use ICT, Market Structure and I compliment those two with LUX indicators

[hearty rivet]

yeah mish you would bank with the knowledge you got

[cobalt wave]

Are you all lifetime members ?

[cobalt wave]

Good good 😊

[hearty rivet]

if you ask me, i never had to drop a tf to find a fvg, always on same tf

just put an alert on MSS formation then check if it was preceeded with a nice liq grab and if this mss was formed by a strong aggressive movement not just a little wick.

these setups allow 100-200 ticks

if you watch my first video on ict concepts its 15 min but those setups there allow 100-600 tick moves with such a small risk

they require liq, time and price with time (time of day) being most important

[ancient marsh]

@wraith wharf

Does this meet your criteria?

[night flicker]

@hearty rivet this would be valid right?

[ancient marsh]

Im thinking yes , but just my guess

See my post above

[night flicker]

even though.. not seeing a liq grab

[ancient marsh]

4 strong green candles to cause the mss

Maybe thats not a liquidity grab

[night flicker]

yeah I think you'll take a trade on the top of the FVG

[ancient marsh]

Never came back to touch it

[night flicker]

damn

[night flicker]

that played out btw

[night flicker]

14.75 points on ES

[night flicker]

is it live?

[ancient marsh]

No

Always interested in new stuff so just looking back

[night flicker]

yeah this one seems more stable and consistant than just indicators lol

I mean.. ICT is used for years now by good traders so makes sense

[ancient marsh]

Depends on the indicator

And how its made. The smart trail is a function of the ATR so it makes sense to me

[night flicker]

I mean, you use the smart trail but you also do some quick PA analysis

[ancient marsh]

Many people think ict guy is fake, i have no opinion , but if the concept works, it works

Probably just haters

[wraith wharf]

I'm not at my computer right now but those longs would be valid because we taken internal liq, had a mss, left no FVG because it's late in the day but it did follow market structure

[ancient marsh]

So no fvg when retesting the fvg in the direction you want to trade?

[wraith wharf]

I can't see the charts right now but that's what I'm guessing

[night flicker]

the only liq grab I can see here is the top of the FVG being at the top of the MSS so it re-took the high and rejected so probably some SL there were taken

[ancient marsh]

So if long scenario, then no fvg on the way down?

[wraith wharf]

I'll be back at my computer in an hour or so I can review what your seeing then

[hearty rivet]

Yes but market closed

Also you must be able to wether the fvg below

To do so decrease ur position size

Or use the fib I taught you and enter below the 0.5 so in discount

[night flicker]

thats a replay

its 1h after market open

[hearty rivet]

Very nice oh

Always enter on first fvg closes to miss if multiple

Because price may never fill the rest and you will miss out

[night flicker]

yeah.. the only problem with the first FVG is that it didn't had MSS

[wraith wharf]

Or you can use a fib and see if the FVG meets the 50% discount

[night flicker]

so I skipped it

[hearty rivet]

You can enter on fvg like 1 con then if price goes down to fill other u don’t add anything once price goes bask up to your entry you can optionally add another con

[hearty rivet]

It doesn’t matter

Price may want to fill any fvg near the mss

Even if before it

[wraith wharf]

I've still had good trades that don't meet the 50% discount but that is something you'll have to choose to go in with lower size like @hearty rivet said

[hearty rivet]

Since my acc size is big I can wether the risk

By big I mean funded account

[night flicker]

so if that FVG wouldn't have formed the lower FVG would be good as well?

[hearty rivet]

No

The mss should be formed with strong energetic aggressive candles

Another word for these is displacement

[night flicker]

thats the lower FVG touch

[hearty rivet]

A consequence of such aggressive move is an fvg forming

[night flicker]

the candle itself shows a nice reaction the the FVG

[hearty rivet]

Yeah

[night flicker]

also, not sure if you see, thats a double FVG actually

[hearty rivet]

That’s a volume imbalance as well as a inverse fvg boosting the price up

[wraith wharf]

Yup nice rejection always feels good unless your confessing your love

[night flicker]

so more confluence(?)

[hearty rivet]

Lmao

[night flicker]

thats the forbidden gym booster

[hearty rivet]

Yeah

[night flicker]

I see, need to replay this

but now gtg to sleep

Luke are you in Turkey rn?

[hearty rivet]

Sleep well bro

Yeah bro I am

Come 😄

[night flicker]

bro.. its the same time for you

[hearty rivet]

Lmao

[night flicker]

go to sleep

[hearty rivet]

Smoking my shisha before I sleep

[wraith wharf]

Yo me too right now lol

[night flicker]

a good shisha before bed is always good lol

Forseti where you from brother?

[wraith wharf]

The US west coast, it's 2pm here

After market chill

[night flicker]

ohh nice

I wish lol

market opens at 16:30 for us lol

have a good one

[wraith wharf]

Goodnight

[night flicker]

gn

[hearty rivet]

Yooo my shisha bud

Good night mosh

[clear cedar]

Man I need to move to that timezone!

[random sage]

Moutain time is pretty deadly market opens at 7:30 here

[misty sundial]

Colorado here lol MST is the best ST

[rose basin]

please tall me how to alert this cross

[ancient marsh]

Anyone short the news?

Flat now

[cursive cosmos]

wow this whole time i was unaware autopilot is not optimal senstivity lol

[ancient marsh]

It may be optimal for some...

[cursive cosmos]

autopilot sacrifices accuracy 😢

[ancient marsh]

I personally use medium

[ripe verge]

Hey good morning all, I came across an ICT Silver Bullet indicator which looks to give a confirmation candle during the SB trading times based on a candle that holds a break of structure with its body and produces a FVG. You enter on the FVG and target 5-10pts on ES....back testing has a crazy win rate...
Wondering if there's a recommendation section for Lux to take a look at and try to replicate for this community?

[night flicker]

you can just share it here..

also, is it repainting?

[random sage]

i cannot belieeve i blew two accounts becuase my trade copier

stiiings

[night flicker]

damnn what happened?

[random sage]

i thought i closed out a short but it left it till end of day

what ever i.ll get em back

[desert hinge]

Please share!

[low yoke]

Oh no, thats shit man

[ripe verge]

https://www.tradingview.com/script/FtCqI1Dr-Silver-Bullet-Indicator-by-Zekkr/

[random sage]

two pa's two evals lol

[ripe verge]

If @severe charm could create something like this it would be amazing

[cursive cosmos]

looks neat
how does it work?

[severe charm]

will look into it

[ripe verge]

ICT Silver Bullet indicator which looks to give a confirmation candle during the SB trading times based on a candle that holds a break of structure with its body and produces a FVG. You enter on the FVG and target 5-10pts on ES....my back testing has a crazy win rate

[cursive cosmos]

basically enter when a candle paints?

or enter when a candle/wick closes in the FVG?

[ripe verge]

Same principles of the ICT entry... enter once the price retouches the FVG

[low yoke]

eeeessshhh. Like you said though, you will get them back. It's just a pain in the arse

[ripe verge]

My backtesting from May 22

75% win rate is pretty insane

[low yoke]

What timeframe you using pal?

[ripe verge]

Always 1min

It's not suggested on any other tf

[low yoke]

Ok cool, I will back test to have a look

Whats your kilzzone times or are you just taking trades when they print?

[low yoke]

A Lux Algo Silver Bullet Indicator would be face melting

[arctic wolf]

@random sage on replikanto if you've got fractions of contracts at close it seems to leave them lying around. if you do whole numbers it seems to work. so 12 on a 50k at 0.75 to a 25k closes them fine (or did for me)

[random sage]

Lesson learned the hard way

Im just gonna do all 50k accounts one tradovate and the rest rithmic

[low yoke]

why one tradovate and the rest rithmic?

I lkiterally only just downloaded ninja trader today so need ot get used to all this and get a trade copier

[night flicker]

@hearty rivet luke what I did on CL using ICT

took 2 entries, one at the first FVG and another at the 50% line

I TPd on that yekkiw kune but was supposed to ride until the white line

didn't want to risk it for nothing since I entered and had to go somewhere.. anyways if I was home I would've SL trailed that mf

[random sage]

Tradovate so i can trade at work on my phone

[ripe verge]

ICT killzones are based on NY time
London 3-4am
NY AM 10-11am
NY PM 2-3pm

[night flicker]

and another

[wraith wharf]

Nice! @night flicker

[night flicker]

thanks, credit to you too, you helped me quite a lot yesterday

[warm coral]

This looks really good, I tried it on 1 micro ES and it hit the target

[random sage]

Touch 🫡

First valid entry in two days 😂

[wraith wharf]

Its going into a 5m FVG and got some support from prev highs, seems legit, give yourself little more wiggle room and see it play out.

[night flicker]

a long or a short?

[night flicker]

damn lol

[wraith wharf]

Long

[night flicker]

yeah I am in already

don't like the RR so I will trail the sl as we go

still on a paper account with ICT so idc much

but acting as if its a real account

added nother contract at the 0.5 line

[lyric moss]

Halo all

[night flicker]

hey

welcome

btw @wraith wharf you should look at CL

I think it works better and easier for ICT

[wraith wharf]

Oh? Okay let me check it out

[night flicker]

look at these trades

[zenith crown]

Have anyone tried using OG strat on forex👀

[wraith wharf]

Yeah thats good market structure

[night flicker]

we in a down-trend and a strong one so I am taking the good FVG

(ignoring the small once that get filled instantly)

closed the last one, hit close enough to the previous small low

[wraith wharf]

Looks like CL wants to draw towards 68.06

[wraith wharf]

I dont do FX

[zenith crown]

do you do commodites?

[wraith wharf]

Ive done Oil (CL) & Gold (GC) but thats about it

[night flicker]

might do GC as well

[wraith wharf]

The only ones Id look at are NQ + ES + RTY + YM + CL + GC

[night flicker]

I want to do 4 at a time

[zenith crown]

right

I did some quick testings on forex pairs those common ones like EU, GU, AU, UJ, UCHF, UCAD, sometimes work sometimes don't....

havent tried on commodities though

perhaps I should try

[wraith wharf]

Yeah! Give it a try and let us know, always down to see other products and how well they work

[zenith crown]

sure are you doing also 1m OG strat?

[wraith wharf]

I havent in a good minute but I still have the template for it

[zenith crown]

i see sure will do some more testing on other paris

[night flicker]

@wraith wharf is my trade here wrong?

[wraith wharf]

At this point yes

[night flicker]

what are you waiting for as confirmation?

[wraith wharf]

Im looking to see if we hold 50s right now

I havent made any trades today

Let me draw up my chart

So for my analysis, we are in strong uptrend. I wouldnt be looking for shorts but you could have on the one min looking at this. But on the HTF the 5 and 15 min are holding strong upside movement

We touch order block and now we back up so thats why its good to have a wide stop on that

Its not a perfect setup because we still climbing upside so I havent taken any trades

let me see the 5 min

I still think longs are more valid then shorts

[night flicker]

is this a valid short here?

[wraith wharf]

We need to break past this 5m FVG to see more upside if not then shorts could be it

[night flicker]

on the 1m it seems like an entry

[wraith wharf]

Yes it does

[azure shell]

1/3/5 all line up at 15188

[night flicker]

I need to be more patient with this strat

not every FVG is an entry lol

[wraith wharf]

Its also FOMC market doesnt always act like normal

Let see if it hold or breaks through

[night flicker]

so losing this week doesn't mean that I don't understand the strat?

[wraith wharf]

most heavy news weeks makes ICT concepts or SMC a little different. But there were some great setups this week. Which to me is odd but Ill take it.

The Indicator looks like its lining up pretty good too, I just dont trust it today

OG strat is coming up

If it can continue

Trail touch for long lol

[night flicker]

@wraith wharf

[wraith wharf]

Dont forget to take some profits 🙂 make that bread

[night flicker]

yeah closed both

doesn't seem like it will continue falling as easy

but its on simulated still

still feels good

[wraith wharf]

Good job!

[night flicker]

and it keeps falling lol

wonder if my target will hit thought

[wraith wharf]

Yeah thats what it looks like it wants to draw to. It could also chop around till FOMC

Good scalp though!

[azure shell]

kinda want to take this but we are getting close to FOMC

[wraith wharf]

Id keep everything tight if you do that.

Trading FOMC day is like going to the gym for Gluts, always squeezing lol

Some people can do it, Im not experienced enough

[azure shell]

usually i avoid anything within 2 hours of news

[night flicker]

usually I lose money

jk lol

but yeah news usually give volatility even a few hours before, the thing is.. if liquidity is available liquidity will be grabbed

[azure shell]

decided against but seems like its working out though

[random sage]

og short in progress

[azure shell]

keep a close eye on it we are down here at resistance and a few OBs

if youre doing 100 ticks on TP

@night flicker spot on target

[night flicker]

and my NQ target got hit, 146 ticks + 28 ticks on ES.. total would've been almost 1.1k

per contract

[wraith wharf]

Great job!

[azure shell]

and theres the 100 on the og

[night flicker]

nice

[barren lintel]

bro, what you doing? lol

ICT?

[random sage]

the smart trail is not doing so hot this week lol

[night flicker]

thanks! I think the only FVG worth looking at are the once that have one on the 1m and on the 2m.. but for the really good trades it would be 1m + 5m

1 trade per day would be enough

[night flicker]

yeah basically

[wraith wharf]

Thats how it goes yes 🙂

[barren lintel]

Thanks, i'll keep that in mind. Today Ive really only been focused on ICT, try learn it. Basically have MSS alerts setup on 1m - 5m. I get stuck at times because I see the MSS, but dont see the buy/sell liquidity

[ancient marsh]

Smart trail in trend, reversal zones in chop is my way of using both

[random sage]

great call

[wraith wharf]

Ive gotta head out for a few appointments, good luck today guys

[night flicker]

you don't always need the liquidity but it does help

if you want to play it safe, get MSS and FVG and then wait for a reversal candle

basically a big wick to show you that price is rejecting there

I think it works good as well

[random sage]

u enter on the touych of the second reversal zone? or the first

[vast cargo]

Hello everyone , not trading today, busy with work, and FOMC is tricky to trade. Here is my ES charts with level: Trade safe:

[azure shell]

the robots read something bad

or something good i can never really tell

[barren lintel]

wth happened at 2?

[random sage]

i was in a trail touch short lol 🙂

[barren lintel]

ffs would help if i paid attention to the correct day of the week

[vast cargo]

Almost touched my downside target :

[random sage]

smart trail strikes again:D

[azure shell]

if youre trading in here youre just gamblin

[wraith wharf]

Sweep of SSL longs would have been good after a MSS and a FVG

Im not in any trades but that what it would look like

Pump already happened, no FOMO

[arctic wolf]

@ancient marsh if you're doing reversal zones during chop you going counter trend? green candle/red zone

[ancient marsh]

Not paying attention to candle colors in chop

Thats why i usually do not trade the 1st hour. Try to see what the market is wanting to do, then decide which strat i will focus.

[tired plume]

here's another pretty cool one: https://www.tradingview.com/script/WOFcFdAY-ICT-Session-Opening-FVG-Silver-Bullet-MK/

[wraith wharf]

You guys can use the ICT indicator from LUX and at the bottom theres a killzone setting, just set your setting to the timezone for you for doing the Silver Bullet, ez pz

[hearty rivet]

beautiful, thank god

[wraith wharf]

I didn't take any trades today but it was a beautiful day if you did like Luke said. My photos above were a great example of how ICT concepts would have worked.
I'm going to enjoy the rest of the day. See you all tomorrow!

[night flicker]

what is that indicator that gives you RTY / ES divergences

[wraith wharf]

SMT Divergences by LUX

[night flicker]

❤️

all you need is lux free indicators lol

[wraith wharf]

Honestly, yup lol

[ripe verge]

Yep that's why I was hoping @severe charm would be able to create their own version of it lol

[ripe verge]

Yeh I was messing around with this one too but the other one is definitely better

[clear cedar]

going to be an interesting am again ... what a week so far

[night flicker]

so you enter a short on the red candles and a long on the green ones?

I changed it to yellow and blue but in general

[barren lintel]

I just did the same. I didn't realize it was painting the candles before.

[night flicker]

yeah me too lol

until I removed the white background then I saw

[copper tiger]

I woke up at 4:00am today to trade because, The speed of your success is limited only by your dedication and what you’re willing to sacrifice. i made $7,000 in 2 hours Im 15 years old. and to everyone in here we all can do it. If your saying you can it's in your head LETS GO get up get ready if you want to be like the billionaires you got to think and act like one. 🙂

[night flicker]

you saw nothing

[night flicker]

Nice!

[wild quail]

Anyone here long on btc after yesterday ?

😅😅😅

[clear cedar]

lets see what happen in 3 min fyi btc is #crypto

[low yoke]

OG W

Lovely start

[barren lintel]

@night flicker You get in on the paint?
I missed it

[night flicker]

didn't show it to me

I think its with your timezone so its different for me

[low yoke]

Where would have you entered on this? I cant see it hitting the FVg

[barren lintel]

ahh makes sense then

[random sage]

give daddy a smart traillll

[low yoke]

Im still getting used to ICT 🤦🏻‍♂️

[low yoke]

What R;R you go with Sean bud on a smart trail?

[barren lintel]

Guess i cant really say. I was also waiting for another touch on the fvg and didn't get it.

[low yoke]

That nipped it and shot right out lol

[random sage]

so qucik

wasnt even looking lol

[low yoke]

I dont think that would have filled man

⚡️

[random sage]

ya true

[night flicker]

that indicator shows us which candles have a FVG not when it breaks / rejected

[low yoke]

ok, didnt know if i was missing something. Thanks bud

[night flicker]

not sure why he got such a big wr, seems purely coincidence..

oh.. I think he just enters when price re-touches the FVG and takes 5 - 10 points profit