I just want to give a shoutout to this community and this lux algo coders man, we had a buy signal and a green candle but the very next candle went purple, it knew that was no good. then we get a buy signal and green candle and lux knew that was a good setup, I rode that B up to the chooch and got out, big thanks to everyone here and to the lux people
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Thank you, what settings do you use for price action concepts indicator and oscillators
the oscilators are stock, I just combined the RSI and the stoch into one frame, then the advanced in it's own on the bottom
as for the price action indi, I didn't change anything I just added FVG, breaker blocks, trend lines, liquidity grabs, things like that
I personally don't have the premium/discount or accum/dist zones shown, but that's just me
Thank you!
my pleasure
Sorry to bother you, Are you in EST or CST? I'm trying to locate the CHOCH where you took an exit and I can't find it
Its at 12:47 EST. Also looks like he may be default settings, no auto pilot
I'm PST, and default settings
so Xclusive is right, that would be 12:47 EST
and don't be afraid to bother me, trading is extremely difficult, I've blown just as many funded accounts as the next guy, I'm happy to help where I can
I've only been here for 2 weeks or less, but I'm already dialing this thing in and getting it purring like a common rail Cummins
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your help. I was watching NQ as well so trying to review the opportunities I missed.
what I have found as useful is having the 1m, 5m and 15m in the same layout if you can
yeah, I've heard that a lot so which of the timeframes do you base your entry on? Heard to use the longer ones to confirm the trend
I still have a big issue with picking a timeframe
I'm relatively new here too
personally I tried lux on the 1hr and it didn't fit my trading style, I trade micro futures and will hold for a move and exit, I don't swing trade personally
so the 1m, 5m and 15m I found work best, they each have important things to tell, all 3 time frames have the same sma's on them, 20, 50 and 200, and I keep track of fib pivot levels which are the dashed horizontal lines
that's my current layout
imporant areas on the 5m and 15m are the FVG's and orderblocks
I like to hold for a move and exit as well so this is very helpful!
I'm glad to hear it's helpful
ninja is my order entry platform, this is my other screen here
ETH is the blue VP with MP, RTH is the purple VP with MP, then I keep track of RTH VP on the 5m and pay attention to FVG's on the 1m and actuallly enter on the MNQ chart in the bottom corner
again, same SMA's through out, 20, 50 and 200
Thank you, I use ninjatrader too though I have never done any analysis there
I really enjoy ninja, but the thing about ninja is the base basic is not the best
it's a platform that is catered to the after market coder/developer
NVDA taking NQ downtown lol
Is there a way to do that on ninja?? I guess I could post from rhythmic
You can right click on each account -> edit account -> commissions settings
Nice! Thank you
You can leave it
Some people are visual learners :p
is it best to use auto sensitvity for a 5min timeframe or keep it to what it says on the dash
ko'd over half a 100k eval in under a minute on the open 💀
When LEAF Falls from the tree it becomes TOY for the wind and eventually falls to the ground and dies out !
yoyoyo
What is LUC PA?
Think he meant LUX PA, which is the Lux Price Action Concepts
Are most in here trading in funded accounts or personal accounts?
Sorry, just joined here today.
I'm in an Apex account and a personal cash account.
Just wondering guys, the people who are using the OG strat on NinjaTrader, do you ready the charts in TV then soon as you get the entry, enter on NJ?
Anyone here run the Quant Start on ES successfully? Whats the optimal tp/sl?
im trading funded
Funded with apex
I'm literally 3 trading days away from a 100k funded. 1 micro contract a day, open and close asap 😂
Hey Quant! How do you manage multiple funded accounts on Ninja and use the strat on TV? Or have you linked them up
It’s all through a trade copier I bought from apex
always my favorite to get one into punt mode lol
what is tradeing group if i may ask
Run the clock mode 😂
Hi, please what strategy/timeframe do you use for ES? Thank you
100% run the clock 😂😂 I do have $20 over target for a punt mind lol
Is this expensive?
You can set up trading groups on tradovate but i cant seem to trade that group in trading view. So you can join multiple apex accounts and when you trade one account, it puts the same traded on all accounts
oki
I bought replinkanto trade copier for like lifetime for like 150$
Yeah pretty much same price for the apex one you get two licenses for lifetime
Thanks both
OG off to a great start
og pays the bills
OG will pass the test over the long run, its been proven many times
Took profits at 1:3, went up to 1:7 🍩
Sean you always wait for Smart Trail to support direction right?
I want to trade without thinking much tiday might follow the strat
@random sage
100k eval completed ✅
Congrats
you betcha
Sean's unite.
also, is your ADX length 14?
7
Hello I want to try scalping BTC usdt using lixakgo premium, for those of you with good results Wich setup and timeframe do you recommend?
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Every time I want to load the amazing quant strat it leaves things off so I have to look it up in the discord every time
also, what did you put in the stop strategy if you don't mind
I want to be strict with myself and trade the quant strat only till I get my funded account back
the target for each is the previous tp, break even at 60 then 60 trailing stop
What is this ?
my ninja trader atm
like this for the second one?
i took it off it didnt really need to be there lol
mnq
Thank you
Do you know if the trading view automatically updates the scrips for people using the quant strat
if they come out with a new version u gotta remove the one u have(or keep it) and then add the new one
Is there somewhere we can constantly find the updated quant strat? Sorry for all the questions just getting locked it tired of getting to a funded account then blowing it smh
see id probably take this trade because there is room before it hits the smart trail
just ask
May I have link to new one please 😅
so if its far from the smart trail you'll take it anyway?
idk thats what im thinking
I am slowly learning that VIX might be better for my VOLI strat
Thank gou*
When you did the combines? You trades micros?
I thought you said fuck you
yup always trade micros now easier to get a number i like
Yeah I saw what I had typed and was like well that doesn’t look nice so let me switch it real fast I guess I fat fingered my keys 😂
Hell yeah I guess this is where my struggle is. I have been only trading full contracts because I pass the combine quicker. But it obviously hasn’t been doing me good since I’ve blown two funded accounts now
i like doin minis on evals then mikes on the PA's at least til the padding builds up
so close to a trade lol
VIX and VOLI correlation to SPY is -0.8
I will go with VIX signals and use VOLI for coonfirmation
slow and steady wins the race
When doing the combine any tips for when to just take my profit and walk? I have a 50k and a 150k I’m working on them I’m on step 2 in both rn
i have set numbers that i take it at or u can let it ride but make sure to lock in profits or trailing stop while be closer to knocking u out
I like to figure my daily average gain if every trade is taken. Then if i have a trade and im above the avg daily gain of every trade taken, i quit for the day
I appreciate the help and tips. Losing two funded accounts is been a mental battle rn. So I’m really tryna just dial in and be strict till I have my funded account and have some cushion In there
Lux Algo community rocks can’t wait to share some success stories now
And I’m assuming you just trade MNQ? Or es too?
well.. thats a bad day for the strat so far
yep :/
maybe 40 ticks is not enough..
come on bsby
how so? 2 wins 1 loss?
oh yeh i see... other way round
@random sage I missed the market open entry and only took a small win
i jumped in right after at like 9:32
if you want to do win or bust on an eval, all in at open is the way to go 🙂
wouldn't it be a bit riskier?
yeap
I often feel that market open is scam can go up and down within mins
oh ya super risky
ya unless you have setup like today
damn missed this trake
@random sage if you would've taken the trades according to the rules wouldn't it be 2L 1W?
@night flicker 2:2 score draw
can you show me your chart? maybe I udnerstand the strat differently
@arctic wolf please check pm
the big red candle moved so fast it went out a few points under instead of BE
did you guys take the reverse?
when it exited we had a short signal
im in a short
i didnt take the one it was too choppy
yeah.. thought the same, thought also taking all the profit at the first target but wanted to see where it goes
instead of being in a small profit, I got a loss on that trade
I guess when colors go from purple to green to purple back and fourth, just skip the trade
need this trade to go then i can call it a day
yeah I think so too
🙂
good trade
moved all the SL to the same price
aaand im done
for the og?
bought it before that chop trade
yeah, I take 12 contracts like you
lets see how it goes tomorrow
right on
after they become PA, I'll get another 7 and run it on 10 different accounts
what account sizes are you guys doing @random sage @night flicker ?
I'm starting with just one 25k might add a few later on
doing 50k
use code SAVE90 for 90% discount
if you go for the 25k, just play a little with the TP and SL
I think go for 6 and then keep the first tp at 3, then 1, 1, 1
thanks for the advice! I'm pretty much doing the same as Sean 12 mnqs and 3,3,3,3
for a 25k account it might be risky
btw @random sage you know why only 1 order is havign a trail sl and not all of them
after the first tp, it moves 2 SL to BE and 1 is following slowly
right is it 6 mnqs, same 40 tick SL and then 60, 90, 120 and 220?
how you have 90% apex discount
would like to know that as well
when you apply it it gives 80% though
I think it gave me 90%
oh nvm it gave 80%
but was a good one thanks!
I think then I should buy 2 more 50k lol
just a few bucks
more
still 80%
if I go for 50k it would make sense doing 12mnqs 3,3,3,3 @40tick SL?
40tick is 10 points ?
yup
ok
thanks Sean are you all acc sizes doing same 12 mnqs and same SL/TP settings? or do you half the 25k ones?
@night flicker Are you using Bulenox ? I see they have 80% off. Is it similar to Topstep.
bulenox is super chill but you have to get your accounts over drawdown for them to release the next one up, opposed to apex where they just release them all at once.
i grabbed like 11 bulenox's for $14.25 each
Is it 50k account? You mean i need to sign up for one funded account, and pass the rule, and then will be eligible for more accounts at the same time
ya those are 50k's, you can take as many evals as you want at a time, but the PA's go into a queue as you get the previous one passed drawdown
I guess, i can use NT8 to trade with Bulenox. Correct?
correct
i just run intraday trailing 50k's, the big discount is off right now but i just send these evals hard on the opening range break and get them done quick
they're cheap and reset if for $14.25 if i have a snafu
i double the 50k based on the 25k acc
What a day boys… passed another 7 300k accounts up to 9 total! Few more are within 500 dollars
What do you mean by accounts?
I’m up to 9 funded accounts 2.7 million in funding from apex
You can have up to 20 going at once per household
bro,which strategy using?
where how??? me Want
Yea, what strategy are you using?
1 min but following the trend so
- Establish trend
- Take reversals out of the reversal zone using a divergence of some sort I’m using a rsi with the setting set to 8 take profit is back into the smart trail
- Taking continuations off the smart trail with the trend ( even stronger if with a hidden divergence )
What I’ve worked out so far
Very nice, sounds pretty straightforward
Yes, simple is definitely best
Think it's Bulenox
thanks man
Anyone trade globex session?
Do you have an example picture of this?
please help me how to get Take Profit price on alert
- Defines trend = down
- Price hits zone rsi giving divergence signals can take long ( if you don’t like counter trend then don’t take it )
- Price nails trail take profit on long if taken… see rsi making hidden bearish ( could be known as complex divergence ) while price makes equal higher low on the trail enter short
The short to the right or shortly after the first red arrow would also be a very valid entry and turns out amazing also
Pretty sure others are using this set up i think one of our friends from the stock channel posted it first I just like divergences for confirmation
interesting. how did you wind up with an RSI of 8? i've never budged off 14. 😉
Years and years of tinkering… haha know every indicator inside and out test every variable see what you like or most importantly what you can make work into your system
what rsi indicator do you use for divergence?
That one is a paid one from years ago but just the Tv one works
ok
it's interesting, the lower variable seems to exaggerate the moves, makes it easier to see those extremes/reversals. i trade a reversal strat on the 1m too, will have to test it out.
What indicators do you have on?
RSI and the reversal zones?
Oh right so it’s gotta be 24 mnqs on 50k account?
Thanks for all your knowledge Senesi (Master) Quant
Yessir
Hello Guys, what is the best app to trade stocks?
I mostly trade crypto, but thinking to get some hang of stocks too.
Appreciate the support
How many did you trade during your combine?
Do you ever trade ETH?
Or mainly RTH
And i gave a profit goal that if i hit i stop for the day
@random sage I'm not very familiar with NT8's ATM especially the stop strategy settings. I'll take a look on their support documents. Meanwhile can I clarify if your stop strategy as shared yesterday is meant to:
- TP1 (60 tick) for 3 contracts and rest are auto BE;
- before TP2 the remaining contracts will auto trail (so if price moves 1 tick to 61 tick, the SL moves up 1 tick to 1 tick and so on) until all contracts get unloaded at TP2, TP3 and TP4?
Yea pretty much
gm Roop, you need to see which one works in your country
I know they also give great data, let me give a look at the fees
what are yo u intending on trading
the first red arrow isn't a divergence but I see the 2 trades, 1 the green arrow and another on the next smart trail touch (not the red arrow)
oh, so since the trend is down, you take that red arrow anyways
In case you’re still wondering, after reading NT8’s support docs, it’s the Profit Trigger. Since the 3rd and the last one are set up 90 and 120 ticks, it means that the Auto Trail will only be triggered once price reaches 90 ticks (for 3rd to start trailing) and 120 ticks (for the last one to start trailing).
Haha you are correct @night flicker my bad. Still would’ve and probably did take the short for the trail touch.
That’s why you get a cheat sheet 🙂
I dont want the stop loss to change until i can lock in profits from tp1, so thats why tp1 doenst have a stop loss
and the other tp's activate when the previous tp is hit
and auto break even at 60
Ig I'll manually change it until I am sure, I will open a trade on a simulated one and will change it as you said
and will let you know how it foes
yeah, what we want to do is that the stop loss will "chase" the price, so after it moves to BE, make it move to profit so that way if it falls another 30 ticks but not TP 1, it will take 30 ticks profit instead of 0
the rule is pretty simple, highs are for bullish and lows are for bearish
but I think it is better to just watch the price and decide
I remember when I traded crypto I used RSI, Macd and another indicator divergences and waited for the small trend break
even when I got a "bullish" divergence I could've taken a short if the trend that broke was an up trend.. divergences many times just indicate a move so you can use the trend to decide.. breaks the trend? take a reversal, doesn't break the trend, take the continuation
Thanks for clarifying. Just wanna be more specific if I may, does your SL move up 60 ticks from the original -40 ticks (meaning +20 ticks from entry) after price reaches +60 ticks?
yeah definitely just open up a sim and try it out
it will start to trail by 60 ticks at the specific number
so when it hits 90 ticks the trail will be at 30 ticks and move up with the price
oh yes my bad just mentally mixed up
60 ticks does seem solid
autotrail kept getting stopped out at 40 ticks during morning momentum
anyone caught the opening? I'm still waiting on it switching to green
yawn
shorted before open at 80 sitting back now. (for mnq)
Really trying to be strict af till im funded and have a cushion built. the combine i am doing has scaling plan so i can only trade 3 micros rn but slow and steady wins the race!
what strat do you use?
what do you mean combine?
funded account challenge
right are you using also the quant strat?
just using the quant strat
i know it says 9:30 but the confluence for the short was A+ imo
going to just sim trade rest of today to get better familarized with it
did you guys take this long?
I take every trade just to be consistent about the strat
bu buy buyy
teasing target 1 lol
yeah wth lol it needs to go up
RTY screaming today
going up👀 ?
yep, probably
pain
😯
see the divergence at the end..
BUT its NQ against SPY.. so not much speical
theoratically, SPY does needd to go bach to the yellow line, but it did break the orange line already (not much) so I really want it to break the orange one
These lines are important price points to you or Discount/Premium zones by Lux?
that's painful to watch
why couldnt this happen tomorrow when i gotta work
Hit TP but I closed 😂
that's what i said XD
Fml 😂
Hit TP 2 didn’t it
closed all
Didn’t do the math
and third
yep
But looks like it
TP 3 coming
Wait, what’s TP 3?
TP3 hit
Woah, can someone share their para tetera? 😯
wuttt how?
search @random sage he posted the parameters yesterday
He posted 3 of them though.
You doing that one?
will you enter if we get a signal here?
how many contracts?
oh.. you entered the trade before the open right?
12 for 25k account 24 for 50k
no really lol
after candle is confirmed
are they already PA accounts?
yep
on MNQ every tick is 0.5$.. so SL at 40 ticks is 20$
multiply by 24 its 480$
$480
migh as well go for 24 contracts tomorrow as well
something isn't adding up
how is the RR on the second TP is 0.5?
ohh
its risk / reward
sorry, had too much coffe today
Not enough;)
hahaha
Have you gathered enough and stopped journaling?
did anyone take this one?
I wanted to take it but skipped lol
I random short on a simulated because wanted to show to someone how the SL moves lol
Not to late
nah im done for the day.. got things to do lol
have a good day everyone, hope we have more Ws and thanks again to @random sage and @nimble vale
anyone took this one?
I did
Trading off trading view is a pain in my arse missed the last move in the car lol
Now im at swimming lessons for my daughter
niceeee me too
TP1 hit
oh lolll
how did you trade via tradingview? aren't you using ninjatrader?
ohhhh right
yeah
just wondering since you have both which one you think is better NT or tradovate?
Ninja trader 100%
But trading view is so simple and when u have complicated orders like myself its a pain
And to do it on multiple accts is hard
Ninja trader is one click and bam copied to all my accts
righttttt yeah i think i feel the same
I came across apex like months ago. At that time apex didnt have tradovate.
So I started with NT.
Im just gonna have 2 tradovate and 18 rithmic is my plan lol
That's insane, I can't pass my 100k eval yet lol y'all are insane
50k is enough to pay the bills and quit ur job so ya
10 contracts is massive all i need lol
I was like 600 away last week and may 31st will forever be engraved in my soul
choppiest market i've seen since my days trading options
honestly yeah
i think the same lol
i think 50k acc is in the sweet spot
not very expensive and drawdown:profit ratio is quite nice
and 50k *20 is 1mil is more than enough
Even having one 25k can change ur life financially
True
even if I trade forex a 1mil acc is already enough but of course I'd be trading higher TF like 5m or 15m
yep truly
call it a day lol
Hit the profit goal and walk away best feeling ever
anyone tried quant strat in higher tf?
But then u have no excuse to not clean the house only downside lol
yeppppp cant say more
good sleep tonight for me for sure
would be better if they were PAs lol
Its gets the blood pumping for sure having a pa
I haven't but just consider indices move very differently outside its liquid sessions I would stick to using it only when market opens and major liquidity comes in
But if it's high enough like the hourly may be 4 hour then these probably dont matter
yeah and would be even crazier if it hits my first payout mark
I think they recently lower it to $500 threshold
but you still need 10 trading days
and request for withdrawal within specific time period to get the payout sooner or otherwise you fall into second batch
Ya so no rush just keep building it up, thats my plan then slowly increase my size of contracts
yeppppp just feel grateful to have you and @nimble vale on this
ya
25k and 50k dont differ too much in terms of costs
but you get a double out of the increment of the costs coz you can place twice the contract size
But having that extra 6 contracts is huge depending how far u wanna go with this
I just got a 25k cuz i wanted to pass one 😂
you bought 25k first and then 50k?
yeah just imagine when you accrue like 10k already you probably wanna scale up lol
Yea exactly which can happen relatively quickly, I was thinking of getting one of each, then use my trade copier to ratio the traded and scale up, so each stop loss is like 1/10 of the amounts im aloud to lose
right yeah you managed to pass almost all right by now?
I remember you said having 2 50k evals and after today they are about to pass?
Both half way there
then we're the same hahah
Just caught that last one for a quick quick scalp
That's me done for the day lol
Ive got a 100k account hit target and one day left to trade (tomorrow)
It's a static account though so need to be cautious with it
very nice
the apex one?
so how many contract you per trade just wondering?
always thought static account is hard to manage
nuts day today for the og strat
chop city the past hour for lux man, absolute shit show
I keep forgetting the 20sma rule on the og strat
that's a good rule
50
50sma?
yee
oh damn, that explains a lot
Anyone know why the shared strategy (TV link) would go green before my candle if it's the same setup only thing is that I've saved it
mine show purple when the strat is already green
even the dashboard data isn't the same
wut you talking about? Which strategy and wut do you mean the data isn't the same?
Screenshots?
second one is my setup
first one is the strat shared, at 4:33pm it wasn't the same. one is purple the other is green
divergence is life.
Yea. Apex acc. Just fancied trying it lol
Calling all OG Strat traders... Just wondering do you wait for the candle to turn red/green to take the trade or take it as it happens? As long as it follows the confluences
Wait till it closes that colour u can get screwed
Or do whatever u want tbh but I personally wait till closes
Ive just seen it go to a colour i get in then it turns purple and sails away lol
Like today that happened to me i thought it turned red and went in the trade with like 1 sec left then it turned purple@and went the other waaay :/
nothin beats having an eval in punt mode lol
What mins you use for chart
I use the 1 min for entries and just watch the 30-60 min for bigger levels @stable talon
and just pre set for the signal indicator?
check this one out
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@random sage wondering how would you take into account the trailing stop in the spreadsheet shared yesterday for profit/loss r:r calculation?
thank you! So you guys looking at this chart?
Yes for me, I use MNQ chart coz that's what I'm trading with with this strategy
Also you might want to add higher TF like 15m and 1H/4H for confluence
When people say confluence, they mean price is delivering in a fractal manner.
At 1m TF the strat might give buy and sell entries BUT if you align with higher TF those might serve to filter out buys or sells (depending on higher TF bias)
For example 15m and hourly can be showing bullishness, if you enter on the 1m TF sell entry it is more likely some pullback before going up
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I dont lol
i like your style lol
yes make a copy and it's all yours hahaha
Ah thats rough 🤦🏻♂️ ill wait until it closes. Thanks pal 😊
Appreciate everyones help in here and the creators of the OG start 👑
Ive had lux algo for nearly three months and only now properly using it and sticking to a strat. 100% worth it. Could be looking at 225k funding by the end of this week. After blowing 20 accounts. What ive learned with OG, dont interfere with the trade. It usually always plays out and hits target
😂
very nice happy to hear that lol are you doing 10 25k accs?
No, 50k, 75k and a 100k static. Still using tradingview as i have a mac. When i make the switch to Ninja, ill be getting multiple 50ks. Get these funded and paying then ill think of it
Anyone have an A++ setup on the OG when they want to go safe? Ive been using the trend tracer for extra confluence. Works well. Saved me some bad trades when i back tested for 3 weeks
@low yoke did you copy @random sage chart?
he wrote the rules on the side, it says to use smart trail
oh, you said trend tracer, trend tracer is only good to know when the trend starts to move and consolidate
if its flat... its consolidation, if it moves then the price will start / is moving
Ah ok. Makes sense
Always use the smart trail 👌🏻 thank you
@random sage @zenith crown
When using this stop strat, what are you setting as the custom strat parameters for SL and Profit? Or it doesn't matter?
Just the auto trail I havent even seen that other stuff before 😂
I sent them here the other day, im not home so i cant send me again
I didnt touch on those lol keep it simple XD
It's kinda like mmorpg where some might min-max some just dont, and I just dont XD
it probably takes a few more winning trades to get there compared to where if I spent time optimizing it even more but I wouldn't bother
oh my bad. i meant what to set for target 1 , 2, and 3. But i found a previous screenshot he posted.
Think ive got it now.
this is SeanClarke's screenshot?
Target one really doessnt need a stop loss cuz it activates as u sell it 😂
Idk why i put that
But that looks great man
thanks
awesome ty lol
welp... I took that
FUCK!!!!
it was on simulated
I tested the SL and TP before and didn't change to the apex acccount
I caught that open as qwll
Still holding
$29 short of my target to pass eval 😂
Savage open again lol
up to 11 now! lol
damn missed that one
Great work 😂 Animal like
How many contracts you've been trading lol
just 1
hard to work and watch the chart
and your TP and SL are 80 ticks?
thats on the og strat... this one i havnt dedicated a hard tp or sl as the trail moves... but the idea is to take profit on the trail touches or the reversal zone touches
right and the entry is also the same as the og strat?
nope sorry this i posted yesterday... still working on it a bit but its a variation of the smart trail strat
sorry my bad you meant this one?
yes
thanks! I'll study it
Yea wonder what a good exit strat would be, interesting to look into this, like maybe sell half at a certain number then sell the other half at the smart trail touch or when it turns to purple or hit’s the reversal zones
NQ bounced at Thursdays npoc, good location
To me the rsi going above/below (overbought/oversold) is quite consistent
magically lines up with reversal zone and trail touches
@random sage didn't enter, do you think it would've been worth entering since we got a red dot 1 candle after it changed colors|?
guess not lol
Buy signal fail into the trail, then immediate sell signal is a great setup
And opposite
Yes sir
It retested that 59-60, the nvpoc mentioned earlier
Thats where i exited
We left the reversal zone, Id be careful on the trail touch. We also took the previous daily candle low
I dont trade trail if opposing signal, so im not taking it
Im not in any trade, but this is my thought on the process. We took Sell Side Liquidity from previous day low, Fair Value Gap showed on the 1 min, left Reversal Zone, could have entered in the FVG, setting SL to Lows and target reversal zone to the top. On the Oscillator showing buy momentum, it would be a 1:3 RR
Not sure how this will play out. we'll see
I would at least scale at the trail, it has shown way to many times that there can be a reaction there
Agreed
Just my humble opinion
Its to much of a down trend day. Doesnt look like its gonna work. Maybe in another life lol
quick L
Hard for me to be interested in OG strat after a big down move
So far away from trail
yeah and it was at a bottom, wanted to enter anyways
Never know, many times it still works
Hello everyone - my friends, what is the best broker platform for trading futuers, oil, gold and commodities - in terms of safety, low commissions, speed of transferring amounts, and so on - and linking it in Trading View or BookMap
Please advise and thank you
I don't know about any of those requirements you are asking about, but I use ninja
but I know a lot of pople use tradovate and link to TV
the OG strat becomes a problem when it is hitting support / resistance
like today, 2 false trades
No fill on that trail touch
how many points you are taiking of trail touches?
20
which two?
To 30 depending on size of trail
Wider trail means more volatility , so usually use smaller size and hold little longer
the smaller it is the longer you hold?
yep
I want to just follow the strat to see where it goes
it usually works good, the only problem is that opening trade that wasn't on the apex account
so those 2 trades ate all the profit
Other way around
yeah and market tends to move more in the morning
Thank you for posting this. How do you manage to keep holding while the price moves up and down on a day like this?
You have to trust your system and level with a proper risk management
do you use other confluence other than trail touch?
Has the trail touch been absolutely money today or what…
I didnt get in until i saw the rejection
See my price
I usually have order waiting but not this time
My 1st trail touch trade
Close of the rejection bar that dipped into the trail
yeah thinking of doing it as well
Thats the beauty
think I will take 6 sl and 12 tp for small trail and 10 and 20 for wide trail
Barely missed this one
Almost 70 point move down
Full disclosure, trail touch lost me money yesterday
Thank you!
Made it back today though
whats your wr usually with it?
Last 14 days has 3 losing days
I have other criteria i look for and am working on, but its a viable strat as well
and did you take that short on the white candles?
I do not go against signals
Also, do you trade NQ and also use 15m TF as well
so its more of a trend continuation
But a buy signal into a trail that fails and then offers an og signal i usually take
Hence why it lost in ydays chop
Not taking this one, usually just the 1st
Yes, sometimes I do trade NQ, but NQ seems to be too volatile, ES is a safe bet. Use Higher Timer frame for confluence, and trade with lower time frame like 3m, 5m.
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Maybe i should track the trail touch aswell…
If this message gets one thumbs up i will
Alright I will
what does this volume mean?
Hi all! Yesterday wasn't the best for OG, got stopped out a couple of times then it went where we needed to. Just curious how people managed yesterday? I seen @ancient marsh using the smart trail and that would have worked wonders with yesterdays market. Does anyone use any techniques to stay away from an OG entry? e.g if the entry confirmation is too far away from the smart trail?
That was the worst recorded day by far, Thats why u have a mental daily loss limit, but the og’s a chillies heel is support and resistance especially getting a signal, sometimes it breaks it sometimes it gets rejected instantly
Ah ok so if the signal happens at a support level, it can get rejected like the trades yesterday
So Tuesday was Choppy and OG really smashed it, Are choppy markets the best for the OG?
Usually choppy is bad
Ah 🤦🏻♂️
But from back tests just take em all and have a profit goal then stop
And a daily loss limit
U have a trailing drawdown of 2500 lets say I would max risk 250 per trade to make 500 or more
10% risk
Just caught the open again, passed my 50k and another 100k. 5 days of trading 1 micro it is 😂
Makes sense. Thanks Sean
anyone hopped in anything yet
Only the open, passed my acounts and now calling it a day before i fuck up my paid acc lol
GM Everyone: ES Charts with level:
Played it!! Keep em coming
took this long even though its kinda risky
that was nice, TP1 all and then trailing stop loss a few ticks aboce entry
@ancient marsh will you enter a long if it touches smart trail?
took 10 sl and 20 tp since it was a wide one
I used 7pts
isn't this one worth it as well?
Im not going to long a short signal
yeah the was the trail bottom, but I will make it auto enter 6 / 10 depending on the trail width and then change it, I am trading through NT
oh so you only enter if the candles change colors and it gives OG signal
if its a sell into blue trail
As long as its not to far from trail
yeah, you usually don't enter on OG if its far from trail right?
Yep
did it increase your OG wr?
It just a variation of the OG really, i just wait on a pullback
makes sense
An i know where i am wrong
sounds nice, will give it a try
the question is though how do you decide whether its far or not? is it just something I'll need to learn? lol
@vast cargo 
yep, entered but closed early when I understood it, not worth staying so took smaller loss
All my 3 upside target achieved. Good luck everyone. Trade safe
Also close to reversal zone
and on previous rejection lol
Reversal doesnt always hold but it hold enough to watch it
👀
Just missed it …
Probably not the best but im takin it
+14
2R
The ones i usually dont like pay the best
Damn, theres the 20
damn missed this entry
Color change negated it
wasn't at home, just got home and saw the trade
short term auto pilot?
didn't change for me
Hmm
is it the new version or the older one?
Whichever this is
its a newer one
ours i 6.0.1
yeah this one is different
I think they reversed some of algorithm to make it faster
when they moved to 6 they made it way too slow for many things
I had like 3 strats that were ruined by it.. lets see how they do with 6.0.2
This one seems to work good enough for me
OH
ffs
NQ and MNQ have small differences which makes the algo too different
Yes that can be a problem also
But
You can always trade the nq chart, but the mnq contract
yeah exactly my thought process lol
even though, since its a small sl, I think 1 NQ contract would be fine
MNQ prob going to be different as well because we just went into the June - Sep contract. This why I always use NQ1! for the TV chart
someone else has problems with NinjaTrader? i get always Connection Lost
been fine for me so far today
Connection lost to the NinjaTrader Historical Data Server ...
OG strat taking hits lately..
think I will start filtering using @ancient marsh rule with the distance from the smart trail
You watch the reversal zones?
3 minute still has sell signal and at its trail
Just something to watch, sometimes it reacts as well
If 1 minute has buy and 3 minute has sell, to me its saying likely chop
But today the news this morning made it a very strong day so we have to be cautious of trend continuing
Do you reenter?
If still have buy signal and green bars , is reentry valid?
Maybe something that needs to be studied
yeah, maybe something can keep us away from these types of trades
same as me
I hate that
thank for your pic, the purple color is hard to see
if follow algo today, it should have at least 200 point on 1 mnq as totaL
yup
I AM USING 3 K BARs to open the order as under or uper the line
by the way, Thanks for your chart.
i use light blue
U do u brother money is still green
I agree price action and volume is the cream of the crop but what i do works so its not pointless, care to see the p/l?
Stick to your setups
I plan on it 😇
legend lol
I trade US30, with NAS you’re initial TP is 60 points (eg 14,500 - 14,560), correct?
Do you find that’s attainable most trades?
I ask because with US30 I trade 15 point profits , rarely 20. It seems when I’ve tried for more I’d get whipsawed far too often.
Further, with my 15 pt TP, I’ve got my SL at 50 which is way too inverse, but again, if the SL is 20-35 it stops out far too often.
Can you offer any guidance as I prefer Indices, too
gn guys
60 ticks not points
for NQ / ES a tick is 0.25 move, so 15 points that you take as TP thats the 60 ticks we take as profit
15 * 4
ok now gn
Thank u for that, so where’s y’all’s SL ?
40 ticks, so 10 points
we usually do 4 TPs (I intend on changing that to 3) so it starts at 60 and jumps 30 ticks each time
and then for the last one Sean likes to do 220 ticks
So 45 beings y’all’s SL is 10 points. With US30 that’s would stop out almost every trade as it oscillates
different ticker different rules, if you are using the same stup you'll need to find what works for that stock
for example if I would try that same setup on ES it would be impossible to catch 15 points each trade since it moves almost x2.5 less volatile
I intend on building a different strategy that works for less and more volatile tickes, so one that would work for ES and one that would work for NQ, with that you could use it as a reference for US30.. you can do the same here, if 10 points is too little, try giving it 15 sl or find out what causing the trade to not work
maybe those trades that stop you out aren't good to start with
Well, being at 50 points is far too inverse , but 20-35 points has decimated me. Heck a friend goes 100 points SL, which is even crazier risk
well.. what time frame is he using?
in futures you want to take quick profits but not sure how it is with US30
1 minutes
Tradovate is on U3 contracts, as is tradingview, and NT hasnt given the rollover from M3 yet lol pretty neat
Just trying to catch up. I found a chart with some entry rules. Looks like we are using MNQ.
Am i right in gathering it’s entering 20 cons, -45 auto trailing SL, closing 10 at 75 ticks and the other 10 at 105 ticks?
smart trail touch is sexy, great RR the 25 tick stop loss is the average of all the loses btw
majority around like 20-27 ticks, couple were 35,40
What news caused the gap up in indexes?
Contract switch. Trading View will fix it by next week. I recommend trading in the current contract till next week or some sort of volume shift
Oooooo thank you
Also truly asking @random sage - what’s the point of Rsi/adx? They can change red/green (the signals) minute by mjnute. How long are some of your runs? I would think after being in a few min the adx/Rsi wouldn’t even matter anymore? Isn’t the main thing the 50 and just entering on candle change and letting it ride?
Candle change - adx/Rsi all over the place though
Tradingview shifted to 3rd quarter chart, they're trading at different volume than the 2nd quarter chart
So would this be a valid entry but a loss? Enter at close of 10.05 candle. Purple to green, Rsi and adx both up. 50k acct so first TP 75 ticks, sl 45?
Im no expert, but i do not think you can expect the same results overnight as you would get during rth
But the entry is proper?
Just making sure i understand the rules
Using this as the tick guide
Seans strategy?
Looks like a legit entry to me
I am not sure how he trats the buy bar that breaks the red trail
To me thats a tricky scenario
Looks like 3 losses and two full wins today 10a-3pto me. (I don’t usually trade prior to 10a)
1350 down
1800 up
Total +450
Is it the left side the original OG and right side the smart trail variation?
I have a feeling that the smart trail version is somewhat like what people do with SMC/ICT style of trading (trading off of those snd zones - and rather than a fixed zone the trailing is somewhat like an adaptive snd)
I’m pretty sure it’s when smart trail is touched you enter
But yes to your question
Although i am a bit curious why so few entries as there are touches all the time…so i must be missing some entry requirement
Why does this say 60 and 90 but the excel says 75/105?
I'm not sure I don't see touches and bounce off happening too often...
Oh so it has to happen in one candle? Not just enter and exit
I get the OG instructions on the original shared chart. Would be nice to see instructions on these variations lol. So much chat in between - hard to follow 😂
I was running with 75/105 but it shoulda been 60/90
Ah ok
@random sage could you provide insight on this please? #📈futures-stocks-chat message
The adx is the strength of the momentum so u always want that to be increasing and rsi is the direction of the momentum but i dont even look at it anymore just the adx
So candle color flip, and adx increasing?
all the rules are there
thanks, its tough to follow everything and what versions of the quant strat are used when you joined few weeks ago lol
Are you taking 60 sl or 40?
40
#fire!
@random sage is it possible to share the souce of ADX-RSI Quantstrat script?
good morning
Look
As discussed yday, failed sell into the trail, buy sig pullback to trail
Are you entering on buy sig candle close?
I only asked because the last candle that left the pullback (and verified the fail) was huge.
I enter at trail
We need a sacrificial lamb to buy up here so we can get a pullback
Hell of a pump
Unless you bought the breakout at open I'm not even going to touch this until I see some sort of market structure. I might just start my long weekend
yeah expecting some pullback
Highly unlikely this will continue all day. We may get some good chop to trade when it finds a range
i haven't hopped in to anything yet either. I know the moment i do, shit will go sideways or reverse. lol
Are you the lamb Aggie is looking for? 😂
Would you smart trail trader buy if this hits this tests the trail?
Or wait for a OG signal first then the test of the trail?
Or is this too close to the reversal zone?
Nice!
Missed it for being on the crapper
Priorities my man
