#📈futures-stocks-chat

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errant wave
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I just want to give a shoutout to this community and this lux algo coders man, we had a buy signal and a green candle but the very next candle went purple, it knew that was no good. then we get a buy signal and green candle and lux knew that was a good setup, I rode that B up to the chooch and got out, big thanks to everyone here and to the lux people

warm coral
errant wave
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as for the price action indi, I didn't change anything I just added FVG, breaker blocks, trend lines, liquidity grabs, things like that

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I personally don't have the premium/discount or accum/dist zones shown, but that's just me

errant wave
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my pleasure

warm coral
barren lintel
errant wave
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so Xclusive is right, that would be 12:47 EST

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and don't be afraid to bother me, trading is extremely difficult, I've blown just as many funded accounts as the next guy, I'm happy to help where I can

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I've only been here for 2 weeks or less, but I'm already dialing this thing in and getting it purring like a common rail Cummins

warm coral
errant wave
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what I have found as useful is having the 1m, 5m and 15m in the same layout if you can

warm coral
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I still have a big issue with picking a timeframe

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I'm relatively new here too

errant wave
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personally I tried lux on the 1hr and it didn't fit my trading style, I trade micro futures and will hold for a move and exit, I don't swing trade personally

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so the 1m, 5m and 15m I found work best, they each have important things to tell, all 3 time frames have the same sma's on them, 20, 50 and 200, and I keep track of fib pivot levels which are the dashed horizontal lines

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that's my current layout

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imporant areas on the 5m and 15m are the FVG's and orderblocks

warm coral
errant wave
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I'm glad to hear it's helpful

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ninja is my order entry platform, this is my other screen here

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ETH is the blue VP with MP, RTH is the purple VP with MP, then I keep track of RTH VP on the 5m and pay attention to FVG's on the 1m and actuallly enter on the MNQ chart in the bottom corner

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again, same SMA's through out, 20, 50 and 200

warm coral
errant wave
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I really enjoy ninja, but the thing about ninja is the base basic is not the best

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it's a platform that is catered to the after market coder/developer

wraith wharf
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NVDA taking NQ downtown lol

nimble vale
errant wave
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you don't show comission included?

nimble vale
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Is there a way to do that on ninja?? I guess I could post from rhythmic

errant wave
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yes absolutely

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1 sec, it's very easy

wraith wharf
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You can right click on each account -> edit account -> commissions settings

nimble vale
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Nice! Thank you

errant wave
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jeez

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I was getting screenshots and circling

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but you could just type it lmao

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gg

wraith wharf
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You can leave it

errant wave
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you win this round Forseti

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lol

wraith wharf
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Some people are visual learners :p

errant wave
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hehe

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Quant is a smart guy

blissful token
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is it best to use auto sensitvity for a 5min timeframe or keep it to what it says on the dash

misty sundial
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ko'd over half a 100k eval in under a minute on the open 💀

cobalt wave
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When LEAF Falls from the tree it becomes TOY for the wind and eventually falls to the ground and dies out !

hearty rivet
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yoyoyo

grim maple
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What is LUC PA?

barren lintel
hollow dawn
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Are most in here trading in funded accounts or personal accounts?

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Sorry, just joined here today.

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I'm in an Apex account and a personal cash account.

low yoke
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Just wondering guys, the people who are using the OG strat on NinjaTrader, do you ready the charts in TV then soon as you get the entry, enter on NJ?

barren lintel
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Anyone here run the Quant Start on ES successfully? Whats the optimal tp/sl?

chilly pelican
low yoke
low yoke
# nimble vale

Hey Quant! How do you manage multiple funded accounts on Ninja and use the strat on TV? Or have you linked them up

nimble vale
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It’s all through a trade copier I bought from apex

proven rain
random sage
warm coral
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Hi, please what strategy/timeframe do you use for ES? Thank you

low yoke
low yoke
low yoke
# proven rain what is tradeing group if i may ask

You can set up trading groups on tradovate but i cant seem to trade that group in trading view. So you can join multiple apex accounts and when you trade one account, it puts the same traded on all accounts

proven rain
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oki

random sage
nimble vale
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Yeah pretty much same price for the apex one you get two licenses for lifetime

low yoke
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Thanks both

low yoke
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OG off to a great start

random sage
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og pays the bills

ancient marsh
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OG will pass the test over the long run, its been proven many times

low yoke
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Took profits at 1:3, went up to 1:7 🍩

random sage
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this is what im rocking with

night flicker
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Sean you always wait for Smart Trail to support direction right?

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I want to trade without thinking much tiday might follow the strat

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@random sage

misty sundial
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100k eval completed ✅

low yoke
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Congrats

misty sundial
night flicker
random sage
desert hinge
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Hello I want to try scalping BTC usdt using lixakgo premium, for those of you with good results Wich setup and timeframe do you recommend?

forest canopy
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Every time I want to load the amazing quant strat it leaves things off so I have to look it up in the discord every time

night flicker
# random sage

also, what did you put in the stop strategy if you don't mind

forest canopy
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I want to be strict with myself and trade the quant strat only till I get my funded account back

random sage
long tapir
random sage
night flicker
random sage
grim maple
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Could you share the parameters for the first one as well?

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🙏🏻

random sage
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i took it off it didnt really need to be there lol

grim maple
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Thank you

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ES right?

random sage
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mnq

grim maple
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Thank you

forest canopy
# random sage mnq

Do you know if the trading view automatically updates the scrips for people using the quant strat

random sage
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if they come out with a new version u gotta remove the one u have(or keep it) and then add the new one

forest canopy
random sage
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see id probably take this trade because there is room before it hits the smart trail

forest canopy
night flicker
random sage
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idk thats what im thinking

random sage
night flicker
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I am slowly learning that VIX might be better for my VOLI strat

forest canopy
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Thank gou*

grim maple
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Yeah, thank you

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😅

forest canopy
night flicker
random sage
forest canopy
forest canopy
misty sundial
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i like doin minis on evals then mikes on the PA's at least til the padding builds up

night flicker
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so close to a trade lol

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VIX and VOLI correlation to SPY is -0.8

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I will go with VIX signals and use VOLI for coonfirmation

forest canopy
random sage
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i have set numbers that i take it at or u can let it ride but make sure to lock in profits or trailing stop while be closer to knocking u out

ancient marsh
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I like to figure my daily average gain if every trade is taken. Then if i have a trade and im above the avg daily gain of every trade taken, i quit for the day

forest canopy
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I appreciate the help and tips. Losing two funded accounts is been a mental battle rn. So I’m really tryna just dial in and be strict till I have my funded account and have some cushion In there

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Lux Algo community rocks can’t wait to share some success stories now

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And I’m assuming you just trade MNQ? Or es too?

night flicker
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well.. thats a bad day for the strat so far

random sage
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yep :/

night flicker
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maybe 40 ticks is not enough..

random sage
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come on bsby

arctic wolf
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oh yeh i see... other way round

random sage
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yea

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W

zenith crown
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@random sage I missed the market open entry and only took a small win

random sage
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i jumped in right after at like 9:32

arctic wolf
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if you want to do win or bust on an eval, all in at open is the way to go 🙂

zenith crown
random sage
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yeap

zenith crown
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I often feel that market open is scam can go up and down within mins

random sage
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oh ya super risky

zenith crown
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ya unless you have setup like today

night flicker
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damn missed this trake

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@random sage if you would've taken the trades according to the rules wouldn't it be 2L 1W?

arctic wolf
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@night flicker 2:2 score draw

night flicker
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can you show me your chart? maybe I udnerstand the strat differently

random sage
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yea that sounds about right if u woulda of entered at 7;30

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9;30**

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2/4

night flicker
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ohhhh

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sorry didn't look properly at the hours

arctic wolf
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i got lucky at 11:09 at when i took the trade

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didnt get stopped out luckily

somber flame
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@arctic wolf please check pm

night flicker
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the big red candle moved so fast it went out a few points under instead of BE

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did you guys take the reverse?

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when it exited we had a short signal

random sage
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im in a short

night flicker
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did it exit properly for you

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in that long?

random sage
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i didnt take the one it was too choppy

night flicker
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yeah.. thought the same, thought also taking all the profit at the first target but wanted to see where it goes

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instead of being in a small profit, I got a loss on that trade

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I guess when colors go from purple to green to purple back and fourth, just skip the trade

random sage
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need this trade to go then i can call it a day

night flicker
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yeah I think so too

random sage
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🙂

night flicker
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good trade

random sage
night flicker
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moved all the SL to the same price

random sage
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aaand im done

night flicker
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yead got out too, don't like the movement

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got 3 new accounts only for the strat

random sage
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for the og?

night flicker
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bought it before that chop trade

night flicker
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lets see how it goes tomorrow

random sage
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right on

night flicker
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after they become PA, I'll get another 7 and run it on 10 different accounts

zenith crown
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what account sizes are you guys doing @random sage @night flicker ?

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I'm starting with just one 25k might add a few later on

random sage
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25k PA

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50kPA

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2 50k evals

night flicker
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use code SAVE90 for 90% discount

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if you go for the 25k, just play a little with the TP and SL

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I think go for 6 and then keep the first tp at 3, then 1, 1, 1

zenith crown
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thanks for the advice! I'm pretty much doing the same as Sean 12 mnqs and 3,3,3,3

night flicker
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for a 25k account it might be risky

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btw @random sage you know why only 1 order is havign a trail sl and not all of them

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after the first tp, it moves 2 SL to BE and 1 is following slowly

zenith crown
stable talon
zenith crown
zenith crown
stable talon
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lol

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80% is expensive

night flicker
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oh nvm it gave 80%

zenith crown
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I think then I should buy 2 more 50k lol

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just a few bucks

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more

stable talon
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still 80%

zenith crown
stable talon
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40tick is 10 points ?

zenith crown
stable talon
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ok

zenith crown
# random sage 25k PA

thanks Sean are you all acc sizes doing same 12 mnqs and same SL/TP settings? or do you half the 25k ones?

vast cargo
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@night flicker Are you using Bulenox ? I see they have 80% off. Is it similar to Topstep.

misty sundial
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i grabbed like 11 bulenox's for $14.25 each

vast cargo
misty sundial
vast cargo
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what are those EOD/SCALING OPTION.

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150k ACCOUNT for $55

vast cargo
misty sundial
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correct

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i just run intraday trailing 50k's, the big discount is off right now but i just send these evals hard on the opening range break and get them done quick

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they're cheap and reset if for $14.25 if i have a snafu

random sage
nimble vale
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What a day boys… passed another 7 300k accounts up to 9 total! Few more are within 500 dollars

nimble vale
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I’m up to 9 funded accounts 2.7 million in funding from apex

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You can have up to 20 going at once per household

proven rain
autumn thistle
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Yea, what strategy are you using?

nimble vale
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1 min but following the trend so

  1. Establish trend
  2. Take reversals out of the reversal zone using a divergence of some sort I’m using a rsi with the setting set to 8 take profit is back into the smart trail
  3. Taking continuations off the smart trail with the trend ( even stronger if with a hidden divergence )

What I’ve worked out so far

autumn thistle
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Very nice, sounds pretty straightforward

nimble vale
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I like simple lol

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Just gotta be patient

autumn thistle
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Yes, simple is definitely best

lone sable
forest canopy
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Anyone trade globex session?

wraith wharf
rose basin
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please help me how to get Take Profit price on alert

nimble vale
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  1. Defines trend = down
  2. Price hits zone rsi giving divergence signals can take long ( if you don’t like counter trend then don’t take it )
  3. Price nails trail take profit on long if taken… see rsi making hidden bearish ( could be known as complex divergence ) while price makes equal higher low on the trail enter short
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The short to the right or shortly after the first red arrow would also be a very valid entry and turns out amazing also

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Pretty sure others are using this set up i think one of our friends from the stock channel posted it first I just like divergences for confirmation

tired plume
nimble vale
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Years and years of tinkering… haha know every indicator inside and out test every variable see what you like or most importantly what you can make work into your system

gloomy pewter
nimble vale
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That one is a paid one from years ago but just the Tv one works

gloomy pewter
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ok

tired plume
forest canopy
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RSI and the reversal zones?

zenith crown
gritty crane
delicate yew
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Hello Guys, what is the best app to trade stocks?

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I mostly trade crypto, but thinking to get some hang of stocks too.

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Appreciate the support

forest canopy
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Do you ever trade ETH?

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Or mainly RTH

random sage
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I have an eth chart but only trade 9:30-3

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Combine is like 20 mnq

random sage
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And i gave a profit goal that if i hit i stop for the day

zenith crown
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@random sage I'm not very familiar with NT8's ATM especially the stop strategy settings. I'll take a look on their support documents. Meanwhile can I clarify if your stop strategy as shared yesterday is meant to:

  1. TP1 (60 tick) for 3 contracts and rest are auto BE;
  2. before TP2 the remaining contracts will auto trail (so if price moves 1 tick to 61 tick, the SL moves up 1 tick to 1 tick and so on) until all contracts get unloaded at TP2, TP3 and TP4?
random sage
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Yea pretty much

night flicker
delicate yew
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Hey Mish, I don't know anyone. How's we bull?

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I saw few ads coming on YT.

night flicker
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I know they also give great data, let me give a look at the fees

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what are yo u intending on trading

night flicker
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oh, so since the trend is down, you take that red arrow anyways

zenith crown
nimble vale
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Haha you are correct @night flicker my bad. Still would’ve and probably did take the short for the trail touch.

That’s why you get a cheat sheet 🙂

random sage
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and the other tp's activate when the previous tp is hit

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and auto break even at 60

night flicker
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and will let you know how it foes

night flicker
night flicker
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but I think it is better to just watch the price and decide

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I remember when I traded crypto I used RSI, Macd and another indicator divergences and waited for the small trend break

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even when I got a "bullish" divergence I could've taken a short if the trend that broke was an up trend.. divergences many times just indicate a move so you can use the trend to decide.. breaks the trend? take a reversal, doesn't break the trend, take the continuation

zenith crown
zenith crown
random sage
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it will start to trail by 60 ticks at the specific number

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so when it hits 90 ticks the trail will be at 30 ticks and move up with the price

zenith crown
random sage
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i always leave frequency to 1

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fyi

night flicker
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the VOLI strat lol

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lol the dump ate all the profit

cursive cosmos
zenith crown
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anyone caught the opening? I'm still waiting on it switching to green

random sage
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yawn

forest canopy
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Really trying to be strict af till im funded and have a cushion built. the combine i am doing has scaling plan so i can only trade 3 micros rn but slow and steady wins the race!

zenith crown
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what do you mean combine?

forest canopy
zenith crown
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right are you using also the quant strat?

forest canopy
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i know it says 9:30 but the confluence for the short was A+ imo

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going to just sim trade rest of today to get better familarized with it

night flicker
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did you guys take this long?

zenith crown
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i did

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lets see how it goes baby

night flicker
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I take every trade just to be consistent about the strat

random sage
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bu buy buyy

zenith crown
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yep

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buy!!!

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it's just probability playing out

night flicker
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teasing target 1 lol

zenith crown
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yepppp

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lets go baby

night flicker
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lol

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bro...

zenith crown
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yeah wth lol it needs to go up

ancient marsh
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RTY screaming today

zenith crown
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going up👀 ?

grim maple
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Back to 550 I think

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5 ticks away from TP 1

night flicker
random sage
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pain

night flicker
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but, it may keep going up anyways

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while it fell, SPY kept going up..

grim maple
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😯

night flicker
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see the divergence at the end..

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BUT its NQ against SPY.. so not much speical

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theoratically, SPY does needd to go bach to the yellow line, but it did break the orange line already (not much) so I really want it to break the orange one

grim maple
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These lines are important price points to you or Discount/Premium zones by Lux?

zenith crown
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that's painful to watch

random sage
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why couldnt this happen tomorrow when i gotta work

zenith crown
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lets have some faith lol

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see

grim maple
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Hit TP but I closed 😂

zenith crown
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that's what i said XD

grim maple
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Fml 😂

zenith crown
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gotta have faith

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yeah

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the composite man knows you

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seeeeee

grim maple
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Hit TP 2 didn’t it

night flicker
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closed all

grim maple
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Didn’t do the math

night flicker
zenith crown
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yep

grim maple
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But looks like it

zenith crown
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TP 3 coming

grim maple
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Wait, what’s TP 3?

night flicker
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it took 3 profits for me

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closed before 4th.. not the best idea but meh

zenith crown
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TP3 hit

grim maple
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I only have 2 tick TPS

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60-90?

zenith crown
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I follow @random sage 60 90 120 220

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my man

grim maple
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Woah, can someone share their para tetera? 😯

barren lintel
grim maple
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Parameters* had a seizure

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Lol

zenith crown
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search @random sage he posted the parameters yesterday

grim maple
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Will do

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SL is 40 no?

barren lintel
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He posted 3 of them though.

You doing that one?

zenith crown
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yes 40 ticks SL

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yep i'm all out now

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all evals though

night flicker
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will you enter if we get a signal here?

night flicker
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oh.. you entered the trade before the open right?

zenith crown
night flicker
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bro..

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lol

zenith crown
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after candle is confirmed

night flicker
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are they already PA accounts?

zenith crown
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just MNQs

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nah evals lol

night flicker
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wait... 1 loss on 24 contracts will be only 200$?

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am I calculating it correctly?

night flicker
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nono

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it's 480$

zenith crown
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not

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wait

night flicker
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on MNQ every tick is 0.5$.. so SL at 40 ticks is 20$

zenith crown
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24 x 40 x $0.5

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yes

night flicker
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multiply by 24 its 480$

zenith crown
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$480

random sage
night flicker
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migh as well go for 24 contracts tomorrow as well

night flicker
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how is the RR on the second TP is 0.5?

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ohh

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its risk / reward

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sorry, had too much coffe today

random sage
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Not enough;)

zenith crown
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too lazy to press calculator lol

random sage
zenith crown
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oh man thank you

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i was typing up my spreadsheet hahah

random sage
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hahaha

zenith crown
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Have you gathered enough and stopped journaling?

night flicker
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did anyone take this one?

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I wanted to take it but skipped lol

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I random short on a simulated because wanted to show to someone how the SL moves lol

ancient marsh
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Not to late

night flicker
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nah im done for the day.. got things to do lol

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have a good day everyone, hope we have more Ws and thanks again to @random sage and @nimble vale

zenith crown
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anyone took this one?

random sage
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I did

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Trading off trading view is a pain in my arse missed the last move in the car lol

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Now im at swimming lessons for my daughter

zenith crown
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niceeee me too

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TP1 hit

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oh lolll

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how did you trade via tradingview? aren't you using ninjatrader?

random sage
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W

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I have a tradovate acct with apex

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Also

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For times like these

zenith crown
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ohhhh right

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yeah

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just wondering since you have both which one you think is better NT or tradovate?

random sage
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Ninja trader 100%

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But trading view is so simple and when u have complicated orders like myself its a pain

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And to do it on multiple accts is hard

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Ninja trader is one click and bam copied to all my accts

zenith crown
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righttttt yeah i think i feel the same

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I came across apex like months ago. At that time apex didnt have tradovate.

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So I started with NT.

random sage
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Im just gonna have 2 tradovate and 18 rithmic is my plan lol

zenith crown
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lol awesome man

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are you gonna have 18 50k accounts or like quant lol 300k?

grim maple
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That's insane, I can't pass my 100k eval yet lol y'all are insane

random sage
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50k is enough to pay the bills and quit ur job so ya

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10 contracts is massive all i need lol

grim maple
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I was like 600 away last week and may 31st will forever be engraved in my soul

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choppiest market i've seen since my days trading options

zenith crown
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i think the same lol

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i think 50k acc is in the sweet spot

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not very expensive and drawdown:profit ratio is quite nice

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and 50k *20 is 1mil is more than enough

random sage
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Even having one 25k can change ur life financially

cobalt wave
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True

zenith crown
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even if I trade forex a 1mil acc is already enough but of course I'd be trading higher TF like 5m or 15m

zenith crown
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call it a day lol

random sage
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Hit the profit goal and walk away best feeling ever

grim maple
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anyone tried quant strat in higher tf?

random sage
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But then u have no excuse to not clean the house only downside lol

zenith crown
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good sleep tonight for me for sure

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would be better if they were PAs lol

random sage
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Its gets the blood pumping for sure having a pa

zenith crown
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But if it's high enough like the hourly may be 4 hour then these probably dont matter

zenith crown
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I think they recently lower it to $500 threshold

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but you still need 10 trading days

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and request for withdrawal within specific time period to get the payout sooner or otherwise you fall into second batch

random sage
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Ya so no rush just keep building it up, thats my plan then slowly increase my size of contracts

zenith crown
random sage
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🫡

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I personally think 50k is the perfect acct size

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25 is great but 50 is money

zenith crown
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ya

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25k and 50k dont differ too much in terms of costs

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but you get a double out of the increment of the costs coz you can place twice the contract size

random sage
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But having that extra 6 contracts is huge depending how far u wanna go with this

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I just got a 25k cuz i wanted to pass one 😂

zenith crown
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you bought 25k first and then 50k?

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yeah just imagine when you accrue like 10k already you probably wanna scale up lol

random sage
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Yea exactly which can happen relatively quickly, I was thinking of getting one of each, then use my trade copier to ratio the traded and scale up, so each stop loss is like 1/10 of the amounts im aloud to lose

zenith crown
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right yeah you managed to pass almost all right by now?

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I remember you said having 2 50k evals and after today they are about to pass?

random sage
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Both half way there

zenith crown
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then we're the same hahah

random sage
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Another W

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Woo

low yoke
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Just caught that last one for a quick quick scalp

zenith crown
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gj guys

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didnt take that one though

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my bias is bullish

low yoke
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That's me done for the day lol

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Ive got a 100k account hit target and one day left to trade (tomorrow)

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It's a static account though so need to be cautious with it

zenith crown
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very nice

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the apex one?

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so how many contract you per trade just wondering?

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always thought static account is hard to manage

random sage
#

nuts day today for the og strat

errant wave
#

chop city the past hour for lux man, absolute shit show

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I keep forgetting the 20sma rule on the og strat

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that's a good rule

random sage
#

50

errant wave
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50sma?

random sage
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yee

errant wave
#

oh damn, that explains a lot

grim maple
#

Anyone know why the shared strategy (TV link) would go green before my candle if it's the same setup only thing is that I've saved it

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mine show purple when the strat is already green

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even the dashboard data isn't the same

barren lintel
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Screenshots?

grim maple
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second one is my setup

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first one is the strat shared, at 4:33pm it wasn't the same. one is purple the other is green

arctic wolf
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candles mate innit

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HA candles on the right

grim maple
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lmao

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thanks

nimble vale
fathom trench
low yoke
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Calling all OG Strat traders... Just wondering do you wait for the candle to turn red/green to take the trade or take it as it happens? As long as it follows the confluences

random sage
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Wait till it closes that colour u can get screwed

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Or do whatever u want tbh but I personally wait till closes

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Ive just seen it go to a colour i get in then it turns purple and sails away lol

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Like today that happened to me i thought it turned red and went in the trade with like 1 sec left then it turned purple@and went the other waaay :/

misty sundial
#

nothin beats having an eval in punt mode lol

stable talon
nimble vale
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I use the 1 min for entries and just watch the 30-60 min for bigger levels @stable talon

stable talon
#

and just pre set for the signal indicator?

zenith crown
#

@random sage wondering how would you take into account the trailing stop in the spreadsheet shared yesterday for profit/loss r:r calculation?

stable talon
zenith crown
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Also you might want to add higher TF like 15m and 1H/4H for confluence

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When people say confluence, they mean price is delivering in a fractal manner.
At 1m TF the strat might give buy and sell entries BUT if you align with higher TF those might serve to filter out buys or sells (depending on higher TF bias)

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For example 15m and hourly can be showing bullishness, if you enter on the 1m TF sell entry it is more likely some pullback before going up

stable talon
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i see

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thank you i can save this chart for myself ?

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misty sundial
zenith crown
low yoke
#

Appreciate everyones help in here and the creators of the OG start 👑

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Ive had lux algo for nearly three months and only now properly using it and sticking to a strat. 100% worth it. Could be looking at 225k funding by the end of this week. After blowing 20 accounts. What ive learned with OG, dont interfere with the trade. It usually always plays out and hits target

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😂

zenith crown
low yoke
#

Anyone have an A++ setup on the OG when they want to go safe? Ive been using the trend tracer for extra confluence. Works well. Saved me some bad trades when i back tested for 3 weeks

night flicker
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@low yoke did you copy @random sage chart?

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he wrote the rules on the side, it says to use smart trail

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oh, you said trend tracer, trend tracer is only good to know when the trend starts to move and consolidate

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if its flat... its consolidation, if it moves then the price will start / is moving

low yoke
barren lintel
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@random sage @zenith crown
When using this stop strat, what are you setting as the custom strat parameters for SL and Profit? Or it doesn't matter?

random sage
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Just the auto trail I havent even seen that other stuff before 😂

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I sent them here the other day, im not home so i cant send me again

zenith crown
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It's kinda like mmorpg where some might min-max some just dont, and I just dont XD

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it probably takes a few more winning trades to get there compared to where if I spent time optimizing it even more but I wouldn't bother

barren lintel
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oh my bad. i meant what to set for target 1 , 2, and 3. But i found a previous screenshot he posted.
Think ive got it now.

cursive cosmos
random sage
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Target one really doessnt need a stop loss cuz it activates as u sell it 😂

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Idk why i put that

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But that looks great man

stable talon
cursive cosmos
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awesome ty lol

night flicker
#

welp... I took that

zenith crown
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seems too violent

barren lintel
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well thats 1 win so far

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time to get some breakfast

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lol

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ill take it

night flicker
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FUCK!!!!

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it was on simulated

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I tested the SL and TP before and didn't change to the apex acccount

zenith crown
#

lollll

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oh man

night flicker
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kill me lol

random sage
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Quick w

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Woo

low yoke
#

I caught that open as qwll

grim maple
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Still holding

random sage
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HOLDD

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😂

low yoke
#

$29 short of my target to pass eval 😂

grim maple
#

Nah I’m out now 😂

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I’m too chicken

low yoke
#

Savage open again lol

nimble vale
#

up to 11 now! lol

night flicker
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another W

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nice

barren lintel
#

damn missed that one

low yoke
#

Great work 😂 Animal like

zenith crown
nimble vale
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just 1

barren lintel
#

hard to work and watch the chart

zenith crown
nimble vale
#

thats on the og strat... this one i havnt dedicated a hard tp or sl as the trail moves... but the idea is to take profit on the trail touches or the reversal zone touches

zenith crown
nimble vale
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nope sorry this i posted yesterday... still working on it a bit but its a variation of the smart trail strat

zenith crown
nimble vale
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yes

zenith crown
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thanks! I'll study it

random sage
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Yea wonder what a good exit strat would be, interesting to look into this, like maybe sell half at a certain number then sell the other half at the smart trail touch or when it turns to purple or hit’s the reversal zones

ancient marsh
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NQ bounced at Thursdays npoc, good location

arctic wolf
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magically lines up with reversal zone and trail touches

night flicker
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@random sage didn't enter, do you think it would've been worth entering since we got a red dot 1 candle after it changed colors|?

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guess not lol

ancient marsh
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Buy signal fail into the trail, then immediate sell signal is a great setup

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And opposite

arctic wolf
ancient marsh
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Yes sir

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It retested that 59-60, the nvpoc mentioned earlier

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Thats where i exited

wraith wharf
#

We left the reversal zone, Id be careful on the trail touch. We also took the previous daily candle low

ancient marsh
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I dont trade trail if opposing signal, so im not taking it

wraith wharf
#

Im not in any trade, but this is my thought on the process. We took Sell Side Liquidity from previous day low, Fair Value Gap showed on the 1 min, left Reversal Zone, could have entered in the FVG, setting SL to Lows and target reversal zone to the top. On the Oscillator showing buy momentum, it would be a 1:3 RR

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Not sure how this will play out. we'll see

ancient marsh
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I would at least scale at the trail, it has shown way to many times that there can be a reaction there

wraith wharf
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Agreed

ancient marsh
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Just my humble opinion

wraith wharf
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Its to much of a down trend day. Doesnt look like its gonna work. Maybe in another life lol

ancient marsh
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I think lows look good

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Good location

night flicker
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quick L

wraith wharf
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You didnt take my trade idea did you

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At least I hope not

ancient marsh
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Hard for me to be interested in OG strat after a big down move

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So far away from trail

night flicker
ancient marsh
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Never know, many times it still works

umbral junco
#

Hello everyone - my friends, what is the best broker platform for trading futuers, oil, gold and commodities - in terms of safety, low commissions, speed of transferring amounts, and so on - and linking it in Trading View or BookMap
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errant wave
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but I know a lot of pople use tradovate and link to TV

vast cargo
night flicker
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the OG strat becomes a problem when it is hitting support / resistance

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like today, 2 false trades

ancient marsh
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No fill on that trail touch

night flicker
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how many points you are taiking of trail touches?

ancient marsh
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20

zenith crown
ancient marsh
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To 30 depending on size of trail

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Wider trail means more volatility , so usually use smaller size and hold little longer

night flicker
night flicker
zenith crown
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right... i don't like the market today after it fell off

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seems unclear to me

night flicker
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yep

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I want to just follow the strat to see where it goes

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it usually works good, the only problem is that opening trade that wasn't on the apex account

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so those 2 trades ate all the profit

ancient marsh
night flicker
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and where do you set your sl?

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and in general how do you know when to exit?

zenith crown
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yeah and market tends to move more in the morning

ancient marsh
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Edge of trail

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5-7pt wide trail 20pt target, 7-12 or 13 25pt to 30pt target

night flicker
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5-7 is the sl?

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or just the first target?

vast cargo
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Done for the day

warm coral
# vast cargo

Thank you for posting this. How do you manage to keep holding while the price moves up and down on a day like this?

vast cargo
ancient marsh
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I did take this trail touch long

night flicker
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do you use other confluence other than trail touch?

ancient marsh
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I want to make sure we had buy signal

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Flat now

random sage
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Has the trail touch been absolutely money today or what…

night flicker
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damn so close to sl lol

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and the og not so much lol

ancient marsh
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I didnt get in until i saw the rejection

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See my price

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I usually have order waiting but not this time

ancient marsh
random sage
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Wheres your order right at the first shaded part?

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And second in the middle?

ancient marsh
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Close of the rejection bar that dipped into the trail

random sage
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I’l probably make the trail my side hustle 😉

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😂😂

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I like the rr of it

night flicker
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yeah thinking of doing it as well

ancient marsh
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Thats the beauty

night flicker
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think I will take 6 sl and 12 tp for small trail and 10 and 20 for wide trail

ancient marsh
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Barely missed this one

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Almost 70 point move down

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Full disclosure, trail touch lost me money yesterday

ancient marsh
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Made it back today though

night flicker
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whats your wr usually with it?

ancient marsh
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Last 14 days has 3 losing days

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I have other criteria i look for and am working on, but its a viable strat as well

night flicker
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and did you take that short on the white candles?

ancient marsh
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I do not go against signals

warm coral
night flicker
ancient marsh
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But a buy signal into a trail that fails and then offers an og signal i usually take

ancient marsh
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Not taking this one, usually just the 1st

night flicker
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yeah makes sense

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tanks, I will take a look at it tomorrow

vast cargo
torpid yacht
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3

random sage
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Maybe i should track the trail touch aswell…

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If this message gets one thumbs up i will

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Alright I will

fair stag
#

what does this volume mean?

low yoke
#

Hi all! Yesterday wasn't the best for OG, got stopped out a couple of times then it went where we needed to. Just curious how people managed yesterday? I seen @ancient marsh using the smart trail and that would have worked wonders with yesterdays market. Does anyone use any techniques to stay away from an OG entry? e.g if the entry confirmation is too far away from the smart trail?

random sage
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That was the worst recorded day by far, Thats why u have a mental daily loss limit, but the og’s a chillies heel is support and resistance especially getting a signal, sometimes it breaks it sometimes it gets rejected instantly

low yoke
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Ah ok so if the signal happens at a support level, it can get rejected like the trades yesterday

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So Tuesday was Choppy and OG really smashed it, Are choppy markets the best for the OG?

random sage
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Usually choppy is bad

low yoke
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Ah 🤦🏻‍♂️

random sage
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But from back tests just take em all and have a profit goal then stop

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And a daily loss limit

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U have a trailing drawdown of 2500 lets say I would max risk 250 per trade to make 500 or more

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10% risk

low yoke
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Just caught the open again, passed my 50k and another 100k. 5 days of trading 1 micro it is 😂

barren lintel
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anyone hopped in anything yet

low yoke
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Only the open, passed my acounts and now calling it a day before i fuck up my paid acc lol

vast cargo
#

GM Everyone: ES Charts with level:

ancient marsh
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👀

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+20 trail touch

tulip haven
vast cargo
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4290 Big level. Watch out

night flicker
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took this long even though its kinda risky

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that was nice, TP1 all and then trailing stop loss a few ticks aboce entry

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@ancient marsh will you enter a long if it touches smart trail?

ancient marsh
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I already did

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Not now

night flicker
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yeah the previous one

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I entered paper, it exited at +20 as you said

ancient marsh
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Nice

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Was proper setup

night flicker
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took 10 sl and 20 tp since it was a wide one

ancient marsh
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I used 7pts

night flicker
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isn't this one worth it as well?

ancient marsh
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Im not going to long a short signal

night flicker
# ancient marsh I used 7pts

yeah the was the trail bottom, but I will make it auto enter 6 / 10 depending on the trail width and then change it, I am trading through NT

night flicker
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if its a sell into blue trail

ancient marsh
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As long as its not to far from trail

night flicker
#

yeah, you usually don't enter on OG if its far from trail right?

ancient marsh
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Yep

night flicker
#

did it increase your OG wr?

ancient marsh
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It just a variation of the OG really, i just wait on a pullback

night flicker
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makes sense

ancient marsh
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An i know where i am wrong

night flicker
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sounds nice, will give it a try

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the question is though how do you decide whether its far or not? is it just something I'll need to learn? lol

ancient marsh
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Now its to far for me

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But doesnt mean it wont work, just not my risk tolerance

tulip haven
#

@vast cargo TakeMyMoney

night flicker
vast cargo
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All my 3 upside target achieved. Good luck everyone. Trade safe

night flicker
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and on previous rejection lol

ancient marsh
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Reversal doesnt always hold but it hold enough to watch it

ancient marsh
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👀

random sage
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Just missed it …

ancient marsh
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Probably not the best but im takin it

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+14

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2R

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The ones i usually dont like pay the best

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Damn, theres the 20

random sage
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Keep missing em 😂

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Easy

ancient marsh
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This a calid short if it touches

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But im capped on profit for today

night flicker
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damn missed this entry

ancient marsh
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Color change negated it

night flicker
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wasn't at home, just got home and saw the trade

night flicker
ancient marsh
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Mid

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Just like OG

night flicker
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didn't change for me

ancient marsh
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Hmm

night flicker
#

is it the new version or the older one?

ancient marsh
ancient marsh
night flicker
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its a newer one

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ours i 6.0.1

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yeah this one is different

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I think they reversed some of algorithm to make it faster

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when they moved to 6 they made it way too slow for many things

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I had like 3 strats that were ruined by it.. lets see how they do with 6.0.2

ancient marsh
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This one seems to work good enough for me

night flicker
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oh nvm, its the same

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can you screenshot the chart that you have?

ancient marsh
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Buy signal into the trail i do not sell

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Yip

night flicker
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look at the entry here though

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before buy and color change

ancient marsh
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Mine was buy on the touch

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B4 actually

mental owl
#

Where is the best place to trade futures mini

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Platform

night flicker
#

ffs

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NQ and MNQ have small differences which makes the algo too different

ancient marsh
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Yes that can be a problem also

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But

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You can always trade the nq chart, but the mnq contract

night flicker
#

yeah exactly my thought process lol

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even though, since its a small sl, I think 1 NQ contract would be fine

barren lintel
#

MNQ prob going to be different as well because we just went into the June - Sep contract. This why I always use NQ1! for the TV chart

frosty oracle
#

someone else has problems with NinjaTrader? i get always Connection Lost

barren lintel
frosty oracle
#

Connection lost to the NinjaTrader Historical Data Server ...

night flicker
#

OG strat taking hits lately..

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think I will start filtering using @ancient marsh rule with the distance from the smart trail

ancient marsh
night flicker
#

had some distance

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supposed to take at least first TP

ancient marsh
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3 minute still has sell signal and at its trail

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Just something to watch, sometimes it reacts as well

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If 1 minute has buy and 3 minute has sell, to me its saying likely chop

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But today the news this morning made it a very strong day so we have to be cautious of trend continuing

night flicker
#

yeah.. I got wicked out and then it started moving

ancient marsh
#

Do you reenter?

night flicker
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nah too late

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welp I am done for today

ancient marsh
#

If still have buy signal and green bars , is reentry valid?

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Maybe something that needs to be studied

night flicker
#

yeah, maybe something can keep us away from these types of trades

hearty rivet
#

yo yo

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@night flicker sup bro

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just copped 1k while in hopsital

errant wave
stable talon
#

if follow algo today, it should have at least 200 point on 1 mnq as totaL

errant wave
#

wild

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beautiful

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whimsical

stable talon
#

Using author's rules to open order should like that

errant wave
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yup

stable talon
#

I AM USING 3 K BARs to open the order as under or uper the line

random sage
stable talon
#

i use light blue

copper nexus
hearty rivet
hearty rivet
random sage
random sage
# copper nexus

I agree price action and volume is the cream of the crop but what i do works so its not pointless, care to see the p/l?

random sage
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I plan on it 😇

night flicker
lunar shell
# stable talon

I trade US30, with NAS you’re initial TP is 60 points (eg 14,500 - 14,560), correct?
Do you find that’s attainable most trades?

I ask because with US30 I trade 15 point profits , rarely 20. It seems when I’ve tried for more I’d get whipsawed far too often.
Further, with my 15 pt TP, I’ve got my SL at 50 which is way too inverse, but again, if the SL is 20-35 it stops out far too often.
Can you offer any guidance as I prefer Indices, too

night flicker
#

gn guys

night flicker
#

for NQ / ES a tick is 0.25 move, so 15 points that you take as TP thats the 60 ticks we take as profit

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15 * 4

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ok now gn

lunar shell
#

Thank u for that, so where’s y’all’s SL ?

night flicker
#

40 ticks, so 10 points

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we usually do 4 TPs (I intend on changing that to 3) so it starts at 60 and jumps 30 ticks each time

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and then for the last one Sean likes to do 220 ticks

lunar shell
#

So 45 beings y’all’s SL is 10 points. With US30 that’s would stop out almost every trade as it oscillates

night flicker
#

different ticker different rules, if you are using the same stup you'll need to find what works for that stock

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for example if I would try that same setup on ES it would be impossible to catch 15 points each trade since it moves almost x2.5 less volatile

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I intend on building a different strategy that works for less and more volatile tickes, so one that would work for ES and one that would work for NQ, with that you could use it as a reference for US30.. you can do the same here, if 10 points is too little, try giving it 15 sl or find out what causing the trade to not work

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maybe those trades that stop you out aren't good to start with

lunar shell
#

Well, being at 50 points is far too inverse , but 20-35 points has decimated me. Heck a friend goes 100 points SL, which is even crazier risk

night flicker
#

well.. what time frame is he using?

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in futures you want to take quick profits but not sure how it is with US30

lunar shell
#

1 minutes

night flicker
#

anyways, I am sure others will help you here.. I gtg to sleep

#

gn

misty sundial
#

Tradovate is on U3 contracts, as is tradingview, and NT hasnt given the rollover from M3 yet lol pretty neat

cloud cipher
#

Just trying to catch up. I found a chart with some entry rules. Looks like we are using MNQ.
Am i right in gathering it’s entering 20 cons, -45 auto trailing SL, closing 10 at 75 ticks and the other 10 at 105 ticks?

random sage
#

smart trail touch is sexy, great RR the 25 tick stop loss is the average of all the loses btw

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majority around like 20-27 ticks, couple were 35,40

past jungle
#

What news caused the gap up in indexes?

ancient marsh
#

Not sure mate

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FOMO

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It closed it already i believe

past jungle
#

Are my charts just trippin?? lol

wraith wharf
#

Contract switch. Trading View will fix it by next week. I recommend trading in the current contract till next week or some sort of volume shift

past jungle
#

Oooooo thank you

cloud cipher
#

Also truly asking @random sage - what’s the point of Rsi/adx? They can change red/green (the signals) minute by mjnute. How long are some of your runs? I would think after being in a few min the adx/Rsi wouldn’t even matter anymore? Isn’t the main thing the 50 and just entering on candle change and letting it ride?

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Candle change - adx/Rsi all over the place though

misty sundial
cloud cipher
#

So would this be a valid entry but a loss? Enter at close of 10.05 candle. Purple to green, Rsi and adx both up. 50k acct so first TP 75 ticks, sl 45?

ancient marsh
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Im no expert, but i do not think you can expect the same results overnight as you would get during rth

cloud cipher
#

That was 10.05 am

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I’m looking at entries from today

ancient marsh
#

Ok let me look

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10.05 est?

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Yeah thats a loss

cloud cipher
#

But the entry is proper?

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Just making sure i understand the rules

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Using this as the tick guide

ancient marsh
#

Seans strategy?

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Looks like a legit entry to me

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I am not sure how he trats the buy bar that breaks the red trail

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To me thats a tricky scenario

cloud cipher
#

Looks like 3 losses and two full wins today 10a-3pto me. (I don’t usually trade prior to 10a)

1350 down
1800 up
Total +450

zenith crown
# random sage

Is it the left side the original OG and right side the smart trail variation?

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I have a feeling that the smart trail version is somewhat like what people do with SMC/ICT style of trading (trading off of those snd zones - and rather than a fixed zone the trailing is somewhat like an adaptive snd)

cloud cipher
#

But yes to your question

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Although i am a bit curious why so few entries as there are touches all the time…so i must be missing some entry requirement

cloud cipher
zenith crown
cloud cipher
#

Oh so it has to happen in one candle? Not just enter and exit

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I get the OG instructions on the original shared chart. Would be nice to see instructions on these variations lol. So much chat in between - hard to follow 😂

random sage
#

I was running with 75/105 but it shoulda been 60/90

cloud cipher
#

Ah ok

random sage
#

The adx is the strength of the momentum so u always want that to be increasing and rsi is the direction of the momentum but i dont even look at it anymore just the adx

cloud cipher
#

So candle color flip, and adx increasing?

random sage
#

And above the 50 Sma

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Or below

random sage
#

all the rules are there

plain dove
#

thanks, its tough to follow everything and what versions of the quant strat are used when you joined few weeks ago lol

night flicker
random sage
#

40

clear cedar
cursive cosmos
#

@random sage is it possible to share the souce of ADX-RSI Quantstrat script?

errant wave
#

good morning

ancient marsh
#

As discussed yday, failed sell into the trail, buy sig pullback to trail

cloud cipher
#

Are you entering on buy sig candle close?

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I only asked because the last candle that left the pullback (and verified the fail) was huge.

ancient marsh
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I enter at trail

ancient marsh
#

We need a sacrificial lamb to buy up here so we can get a pullback

low yoke
#

Hell of a pump

wraith wharf
#

Unless you bought the breakout at open I'm not even going to touch this until I see some sort of market structure. I might just start my long weekend

ancient marsh
#

Highly unlikely this will continue all day. We may get some good chop to trade when it finds a range

barren lintel
#

i haven't hopped in to anything yet either. I know the moment i do, shit will go sideways or reverse. lol

low yoke
#

Are you the lamb Aggie is looking for? 😂

barren lintel
#

probably

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lol

low yoke
#

Would you smart trail trader buy if this hits this tests the trail?

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Or wait for a OG signal first then the test of the trail?

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Or is this too close to the reversal zone?

ancient marsh
wraith wharf
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Nice!
Missed it for being on the crapper

ancient marsh
barren lintel
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damn i missed as well

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dealing with an outage at work

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rip