#Ore distribution (like JER)

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sage rose
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the nice @mild cloud recently ran the JER data for MCE2 1.1.0.2 but because of some bugs it can't yet be added to the pack. Because I like data I went through the results and made some nice graphs for you to look at.
(post is probably getting expanded, stay tuned for more data) done ✅

Note: the y-axis in the graphs is the relative frequency of each ore. For example: diamond ore in overworld occurs most often at around height 3 (=100% on the y-axis). The absolute frequency from ores is thus not directly comparable.

  1. vanilla ores in overworld
    takeaway: go mine between 0 and 20 for everything
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  1. modded ores in overworld
    takeaway: almost everything is everywhere, doesn't really matter
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  1. the important ores in the great below
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  1. the ones in nether you care about
subtle dagger
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Is it possible the nether ancient debris is off? I mined a bunch at y107 and got 14 ancient debris and when I mined at y14 I got 88 debris. I might have mined a bit more on y14 since I was finding way more than y107 in general.

Here's the areas I mined to give an idea of the amount I mined.

swift dagger
subtle dagger
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since there's mega veins sometimes of ancient debris I wonder if there was one at a high y level in their sample. I'll mine more at 107 tho too

sage rose
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The data sample is a 1000 block radius circle or something I think

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Overworld is 5000 I think

subtle dagger
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hmm ya I think there might be a mega vein in your sample. I just mined an extremely sizeable amount at 107 to only get 1 ore, then I hit a mega vein

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This amount netted me 1 debris before I hit the mega vein

sage rose
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Mega veins aren't that rare, wouldn't be surprised if there were many within 1000 block radius

subtle dagger
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ye, I think they can happen at any y level since one guy got a netherite one at y20 in general chat

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it's very very consistent at y14 and extremely rare at 107

stark needle
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mega veins were part of why JER was unreliable in mce1, it would skew results of where to mine with the large ore veins messing up the distribution

sage rose
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Y'all severely underestimate how big 1000 block radius is. That sample looked at like 628 million blocks, you can't just mine a few hundred and claim the data is wrong.
That said mega veins obviously impact rare blocks more than common blocks, it's not unlikely that it has some impact on the data.
Btw for the vanilla ores in overworld I compared them to the ore distribution in the Minecraft wiki and it roughly matches that, so I generally trust that data.

iron halo
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Unless generation has changed of course

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Data above is only looking at ~1200 chunks compared to this graph of 127000

sage rose
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Would probably be interesting to run the JER thingy a few times and see if there a big differences in those results. Debris is so rare that different (modded) biomes and mega veins and all the stuff that can change might have bigger impact on it compared to more common blocks.

iron halo
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100%. Only real way to get a decent sample might be to run a profile over 50 or so radius of regions using region scanner, but that would take a really long time

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Even still might be crazily skewed results

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The mega veins should only occur 1/4000ish chunks but with the quantity they have it will ruin the results

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Given a regular chunk has 2 debris

subtle dagger
sage rose
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No one prevents you from running the JER thingy (however that works) and give me better data to make a better graph :p

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also it does show that if you look closely, don't look at a single y level but a few above and below and you'll see that the high one is an outlier while at the bottom it's more even

cold skiff
sage rose
cold skiff
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I'll do one better is there one for the end ore

dapper orchid
sage rose
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afaik it's a different uranium

dapper orchid
subtle sentinel
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Great data... specially for overworld

idle verge
summer brook
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im mining at y6 and havnt found a single bit of ancient debri yet

grizzled otter
paper sedge
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sick

merry inlet
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where does jade spawn?

gusty fossil
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just a tag for people looking for this with discord search: world_gen.json, world_gen

short ingot
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do super viens exist for all ores? uranium included?

sage rose
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they should exist, yeah, just checked the code
(but only in the great below of course)

short ingot
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hell yea. is there a good way to find them or is it just get lucky

sage rose
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considering it would be hard to find the indicating flower circles in the great below it's just luck I guess

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but of course ritual of scrying can always help

short ingot
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gotcha thank you

opal leaf
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even enderium ;-;

woven chasm
rugged lava
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should i do the fission reactor?

sage rose
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wrong thread for questions like that

rugged lava
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ops

rose yoke
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anyone know where i can get desh dust / desh ingot and ostrum ingot?

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i saw that more mekanism has it but do i have to use ad astera to get it?

sterile sail
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yup, those are other planet ores

rose yoke
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aaa okay. are they on the moon? never used ad astera before so not sure which planet

sterile sail
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yeah, desh is the moon and ostrum is from Mars

rose yoke
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thank you so much

covert vale
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i think the distribution might be skewed for fluorite in the great below

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the graph seems off

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-14 is mostly air and ive yet to find any fluorite after digging for a while