Tinkers Post - Please put your favorite combos here

[chilly ibex]

also have you double checked to make sure you're using the right multi-block?

[cloud horizon]

Ive tried them in both the foundrey and smeltery

[chilly ibex]

have you checked the fuel source?

[cloud horizon]

my fuel source is blazing blood. it did melt all the materials down and they are sitting in the foundry unmixed atm

[chilly ibex]

i have no idea why it's not mixing then

[cloud horizon]

do I need a hotter fuel source for them to "mix"

[chilly ibex]

if it says you need blazing blood, then that's the minimum

send a screenshot of osgloglas alloying

and what you have rn

[cloud horizon]

In the foundry is 6 ingots of molten refined obsidian, 6 ingots of molten refined glowstone, and 6 ingots of osmium

[chilly ibex]

looks like a bit less for refined obsidian

[cloud horizon]

shows 6 ingots when i hover over

[chilly ibex]

yea idk

recheck JEI is all i can say

@cloud horizon show the whole alloying recipe page for osgloglas

[cloud horizon]

1x molten osmium, 2x molten refined obsidian, 4x molten refined glowstone

[chilly ibex]

that is the smeltery good sir

[cloud horizon]

oh noooo, I m a dummy

[chilly ibex]

yea, all alloying recipes are used in the smeltery

[cloud horizon]

thank you firend ill try it in smeltery again

it worked!

I also had to replace the blazing blood in smelthery with a hotter fuel source

[polar pewter]

sorry ik its for sure in the guide books but I cant find it, how do i add the multi item abilities like double jump to my tinkers stuff

nvm....

[grim mirage]

TiCon 3 has a lot of intended decisions I don't agree with... probably a byproduct of it not really being the same people who made the mod in the first place.

[digital saffron]

(that's an addon, not base ticon)

[grim mirage]

I stand by what I said for base

[grim mirage]

What armor combos do you like for pre end? I got a blaze netherite plate/protocite maile chest piece but no other tinkers armor

[river crown]

Blaze netherite for other plating , one each of thermal's elemental alloys as maille for budget ACS

[torn coyote]

does metamorphium only goto 25%

[grim mirage]

pretty sure it goes to 100

[torn coyote]

mine wont go past 25

hmmm

[rocky stump]

Because it only goes to 25%

[torn coyote]

ty

[mellow obsidian]

how do i transfer blazing blood from my foundry to my magmatic dynamo, ive tried the drain and duct with with both fluidducts and fluid condiuts i cant seem to get it to work

[rocky stump]

Drain should be able to pull blazing blood out

But I'd like to ask, what are you trying to achieve

Power?

[mellow obsidian]

Yeah im not at a stage where i can get power easily and this is probably the quickest way to start of mekanism for me without having to rely on hundreds of heat gens

Its not working and idk why

[rocky stump]

Try a pressurised fluid conduit

Fluid conduits don't pull last I checked

But anyways, on a tangential note, I wouldn't use blazing blood for power

You'll produce pennies for power

[mellow obsidian]

wdym

also it was only gunna be a temporary solution till i can get into reactors

but i cant even make steel without having to wait hours for my metallurgic

[rocky stump]

Do whatever you want, not stopping you

[rocky stump]

^

And as for Mek stuff, just max out on the energy upgrades

With 0 speed upgrades

Shouldn't take much energy to get started that way

[chilly ibex]

take the tank and manually remove the fluids from the controller :/

[rocky stump]

Highly likely he wants to automate it

Conduit will work fine

[chilly ibex]

fluiducts work as well

[mellow obsidian]

fluidducts werent working

the conduits are tho

turns out theyre set to using redstone as default

thats why it wasnt working T_T

im dumb basically

[shy fjord]

I dont have access to Osmium yet, What material will give me the most damgage before I have access to osmium? And Will ultimately Help me kill the wither.

[river crown]

just spawn them in a box of hardened glass and poke them until they die. If you use the spear from bumblezone you complete a quest

to actually answer the question I think Manyullyn or blaze netherite?

[chilly ibex]

osgloglas..

wait nvm i'm dumb

silver will help against the wither

[shy fjord]

So should I just make a silver katana or something just for the wither so I can get access to osmium?

Cause Right now I have a Manyullyn Broad Sword that pretty Decent, In my opinion

[crystal karma]

you have manyullyn but havent killed a wither yet? what do you have for ranged weapons/

[grim mirage]

is it even worth using ranged tinkers weapons in this pack?

[shy fjord]

Spells, and a power 4 bow. Havent really done much in the nether except for mining, Cause I gotta wait for the others before I explore the nether

[distant tiger]

is there any way to make the daggers viable in expert mode?

feels like they do basically nothing damage wise, even with their increased speed

[chilly ibex]

fighting bosses?

[distant tiger]

yeah

[chilly ibex]

yea that's the problem

if you're fighting specifically cataclysm bosses, they have way too much armor to be using literally any weapon that doesn't do 40 damage with one hit

[distant tiger]

i guess unless i put some armor pierce on them

[chilly ibex]

no chance

i used daggers a lot and armor pierce did jack shit because of the insane amount of armor bosses have

the only way i could kill them was to just use rage glove but it's been nerfed into the ground since then

[distant tiger]

also it doesnt help that daggers are a pain to upgrade if youve used them xP

[chilly ibex]

how are they a pain to upgrade exactly?

[distant tiger]

theyre made in a stack of two

[chilly ibex]

and?

[distant tiger]

and using one in your offhand doesnt make it take durability damage

so they dont stack after

[chilly ibex]

they're meant to be dual wielded

[distant tiger]

yes, but the issue is the recipe makes two, then unless you repair them fully, you need to upgrade them both separately

[chilly ibex]

i mean that's a little annoying but would i say that makes them "a pain to upgrade"? not really

i didn't really have any issues upgrading at all

[steel ermine]

Can someone explain to me, why i cant get the things out of my foundry? New to the mod.

Its working and already smelted things, i have build the corners etc... i found the problem when someone else asked. You need golden mold already in it.

[golden echo]

I mean, first thing I notice is that you only have a table there with no mold or anything on it. So basically nothing will be able to be poured on it.
What do you have in your foundry and what do you want to make?

[steel ermine]

okay thank you, i thougt it works like the smelltery, without anything like casting blocks or sheets. So i need molds right ?

[steel ermine]

just iron and steel in it. I just wanne get rid of it and thought, i could cast it like before.

[grim mirage]

me and my brother were trying to figure out WTF we were doing wrong fighting Scylla(?) and just decided it wasn't worth it

[chilly ibex]

you kinda need casts to make anything :/ if you're wanting to use basins, you need to add "platforms" to them...it's really stupid and i don't understand but that's how it works

[keen umbra]

I do want to know the design thought behind needing to use the platforms in the basin when the normal basin doesn't need them, just seems annoying

[chilly ibex]

yea, i'm not sure

[pulsar lodge]

it's to give it a different niche in automation

nothing stops you from using seared casters with the foundry

[chilly ibex]

yea but it looks nicer to have the foundry stuff with the foundry lol

[pulsar lodge]

that is fair

[chilly ibex]

if i want automation, i'll slap a bunch of wireless redstone links, no joke

it's what i did when i played

[keen umbra]

Oh cool, I didn't realize you could mismatch, still won't for looks, but good to know if I ever need to

[golden echo]

You have 4 cosmetic slots for the armor. So if it's just for looks, use those and go for utility for the armor ^^

[chilly ibex]

eh? what are you talking about..we're not talking about cosmetic armor slots

[grim mirage]

the foundry me an the boys have set up doesn't cast or pour out. even if you're trying to do something as simple as pour blocks

[chilly ibex]

you need a platform in it

or like emp said, use the seared basin

[grim mirage]

we are... I'd take a picture but we're currently waiting on server roll back because the world decided that radiation was cool (we're the only 3 on and run the server and the guy with admin powers is at work) like everything about it should be fine

[golden echo]

I would need to see more of it in order to find any problems with it...so far it looks fine to me from that one screenshot

[chilly ibex]

that one screenshot...what screenshot

[grim mirage]

I am a different person than the initial picture

[chilly ibex]

the one above?

[golden echo]

ffs... it's clearly to late for me -.-

[grim mirage]

hold on let me see if I can fight through the radiation to take a screen shot

it might be green though...

[chilly ibex]

there's a command to clear radiation but idk what it is

[grim mirage]

yeah I don't have the admin powers and the server is going to get restored to an old backup

[golden echo]

Then again you did answer to my answer regarding thsat screenshot, so that's why I assumed you're the same person -.-

[grim mirage]

hey I totally get it

[chilly ibex]

i wouldn't restore a backup just to clear radiation

[grim mirage]

we're restoring to backup because the radiation killed all the rats and pets

[chilly ibex]

rats maybe, idk what pets you had

also who didn't think to have the reactor far from your base

[grim mirage]

it's just a bee... the guy with admin powers is obsessed with his bee

the guy with the bee

[chilly ibex]

yea, that checks out

[grim mirage]

XD

the reactor has been fine for hours of running it. but all of a sudden when we ran it last night it decided that nothing was right even though we did nothing to it

[chilly ibex]

maybe ran out of fissile fuel or barrel got filled, idk

[grim mirage]

maybe

[pulsar lodge]

i think running out of fuel would cause the opposite problem

[grim mirage]

NVM I see now that they made it with a scorched tank... will try replacing that before complaining again

no wait that's the right tank

sorry for the shit picture

[pulsar lodge]

so what things are just not casting?

in the current state of the basin and table

[chilly ibex]

running out of anything would cause overheat and then boom boom, yea?

[grim mirage]

anything and everything. I've been using a tank to just move stuff to the smelter but... like that's not fun. currently it has has seared stone and bismunth in there

[pulsar lodge]

out of water, it'd heat up a lot

out of fuel, it would just, stop running

like you don't have any fuel to burn if you have no fuel to burn

it's very simple

[grim mirage]

I'll take a picture of the terrible reactor and post it in the other chat

[pulsar lodge]

if the basin is the sole thing you've been trying to use, then that would explain it

scorched casters require a specific "empty" cast in order to do casting that usually does not require any cast

their tooltips have some info

[grim mirage]

even for pouring blocks?

[pulsar lodge]

yes

[grim mirage]

well FML I guess I'm just an idiot

[grim mirage]

I see... thanks this was also built by bee guy 😹. thats on me for trusting he wouldn't fuck it up

[cloud horizon]

Im making an Osgloglas cleaver. I have an osgloglas blade, and a blizz enderium handle. for the other handle and the plate should I make them all osgloglas ir blizz endesrium or what would be most beneficial?

[keen umbra]

blaze netherite makes for a pretty good secondary handle, gives the netherite upgrade for free

[cloud horizon]

thanks, any idea for the plate?

[polar pewter]

does ichor only melt in a foundry? I have blazing blood as my fuel and when I put ichor in it just dissapears after melting fully

[river crown]

In smeltery it melts into only blazing blood, in foundry it melts into ichor and blazing blood

[polar pewter]

ahh okay yea I need the actual ichor

time to build a foundry then ty

[digital saffron]

Cataclysm bosses get temporary damage reduction (separate from armour) for a time whenever they take any damage, so fast-hitting weapons suffer a lot

[grim mirage]

RIP create guns

[distant tiger]

I'm starting to realize cataclysm isn't all that balanced

[grim mirage]

it's not a mod I particularly enjoy TBH

[distant tiger]

Maybe it's just this pack tho, other packs with it wasn't quite this hard

[cloud horizon]

is there a faster way to repair blaze netherite armor besides standiong in lava (besdies obviously using material to repair)

[grim mirage]

probably with abilities if I had to guess but then you're using ability slots

[chilly ibex]

replace cataclysm with damn mariam's

[grim mirage]

This one?
https://modrinth.com/mod/mariums-soulslike-weaponry

[digital saffron]

Honestly I'm kinda enjoying the fights with the iframe roll mod. Except I soon start getting laggy and dying anyways

Sadly the weapons don't really keep up with all the crazy tinkers addons

[polar pewter]

Whats the liquid used for the ion cannon

[grim mirage]

Yes

[keen umbra]

The soul mender from Goety works pretty well

[cloud horizon]

anyone have a good hammer build for pre end? Currently using a osgloglas hammer head and blizz enderium handle but not sure what to put for the two plates

[golden echo]

Wait, does it work with Tinkers Armor? Because it doesn't work with Tinkers Tools or Tinkers Weapons, I have tried that and they wouldn't go into the soul mender.

[digital saffron]

Whitestone peak :3 infinite durability

[chilly ibex]

answered your own question

[mellow obsidian]

Can someone help? Im used warped fungus in a build and it keeps growing vines, ive had similar issues with my island growing trees when theres no saplings, what can i do

[chilly ibex]

wrong chat bro

[mellow obsidian]

Shit

XD

nvm

[fickle barn]

lava/blazing blood

[grim mirage]

Those are certainly some of the easier ones to get

[torn coyote]

does ignis drop the demonic eye

[drifting axle]

what is a good tier 2 combo?

[digital saffron]

Yes, but at a 10% rate due to dev error until next update

[digital saffron]

What for?

[silent terrace]

How do you put fortune on your weapons now? I know it used to be lapis but I can't find what does it now

Ah nvm, found it

[drifting axle]

Tools

[storm heart]

Anyone have suggestions for the advancement one shot base damage of 21 or more?

[chilly ibex]

this is..very easy to do with almost anything tinker's

[queen bone]

Can I gently point out that's less helping her, and more suggesting she should already know the mod better? I'd give an actual suggestion but I don't know the mod well enough either

[river crown]

I haven't done it yet but i'd try playing around in tinker's planner, sort each part by melee damage and look for the highest you have to spare and see if that gets you there. if it doesn't try adding diamond, netherite and/or sharp upgrades

oh probably cleaver is the weapon type to use

I think?

[keen umbra]

Cleaver is the slowest swing but highest damage so definitely the way to go for that

[mellow obsidian]

is there anyone willing to teach a noob tinkerers T_T, i tried youtube tutorials but alot of them due to the version difference doesnt actually help T_T and ive got no clue what im doing

[past drift]

read the books?

[queen bone]

I can try to help, but I'm not very good at it either. Where are you so far?

[clear jewel]

tinker's is a bit of an iterative process.

which works out fine because you can swap out parts as you get more comfortable

your first things you make should be good materials, but nothing you're going to sweat losing

personally, i like slimewood for low to medium usage tools... shovele, axes and weapons... maybe not pick axes tho

manasteel isn't a bad component -- fairly cheap if you're using botania, and still pretty effective

it doesn't require a smeltery or any of the big multiblock structures either

[river crown]

couldn't come up with a way to do it without great below access (unless you somehow have access to end materials but not great below) but here's as beginner friendly as I could get , Osgloglas blade, Many plate, Nahutal handles, added modifiers, gilded (golden apple) sharpx3 (108 quartz (or 27 quartz blocks)

osgloglas for both blade and plate also works and only needs one stack of sharp

many doesn't work for blade and plate unless you have gotten far enough to have other slotless upgrade sources

[queen bone]

Up at the top, it suggest chromatic steel for expert mode, but that doesn't seem to be an expert mode thing anymore. Is blaze netherite at or near the top of the expert mode list?

[river crown]

definetly reccomended for armor plating in expert

[queen bone]

Thanks!

[mellow obsidian]

I have a foundry and a smeltery thats about it, The reason i dont use books is cuz im autistic as fuck so i need someone to actively teach me hence me searching youtube but most videos are outdated

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel was moved to master a while ago

mainly because of how strong it is

[keen umbra]

I wonder how balance will change, because right now blizz enderium seems like a must-have on all weapons, I hope there's more room for variety as the pack develops

[queen bone]

That's about where I am too I'm afraid. I'm pretty lost when it comes to what materials for what parts are actually any good for what items
Here's a few tips that you likely already know but I learned by messing around or got told in Discord:
You need a Tool Forge to make a lot of the items, like the Cleaver.
There's a little blueprint button in the Tool Forge and Tool Station, that brings up the Planner. That lets you get an idea about what an item will be like without actually having the materials.
You can get Blaze Blood by making the Fel Pumpkin golem inside your smelter, and melting the resulting blaze.
You can mine the fuel tank out of your smelter and swap in one that you put Blaze Blood in, for stuff that lava won't melt.

[chilly ibex]

yea, early game is basically steel and manasteel, midgame is blaze netherite with blizz enderium and then osgloglas, and lategame is chromatic steel...

not a lot of variety...

[keen umbra]

I wish there were better late game options especially for magic, atleast Goety has a lot of it's cloaks and hats able to fit into bauble slots

[chilly ibex]

magic has a lot of great late game options, but depends what you want it for

this is the tinker's chat though

[keen umbra]

I wish it had better tinker integration, early game it's not bad with manasteel, Arcanium, magic cloth, and a couple other materials, but past that I think there's terrasteel (or whatever the endgame material for botania is called) that's probably not bad midgame

I should check out the iron's spells tinker staffs though, those seem really interesting and potentially good

[crystal karma]

There's a magebloom upgrade you can add to tinkers, idk about irons mana options though

[mellow obsidian]

I already have a blaze blood farm with a powered spawner tbh and i have my blaze blood farm automatically providing liquid to my smeltry, its more i just have no clue what to do in terms of armor

i was following a tutorial where it said make cobalt plating to start with but that version had u making it in a crafting table, and something to do with golden apples which i couldnt do due to their being no slots or smth like that

Basically i have no clue what im doing

and im too autistic to be able to understand the books

[queen bone]

Yeah, you're probably ahead of me, so I can't help much. I'm going to try Blaze Netherite for both the plating and maille components, then add Cobalt for melee resistance

[river crown]

blaze netherite isnt' great for maille since it's inante ability doesn't stack AFAIK

Some other reccomended posibilties for maille are the thermal elemental alloys Basalz Signalum,Blitz Lumium and especially Blizz Enderium for budget ACS, either antimony or Fluix for poison and wither immunity (also fluix lets you repair in ae charger) or if you don't have access to any of those rose gold to get an extra upgrade slot

[river crown]

golden apples let you trade an ability slot for a upgrade slot

[mellow obsidian]

I do not know the difference haha

[queen bone]

Thanks!

[mellow obsidian]

So currently I have mellyum plating with mellyum cores, what should I use to upgrade them or am I already messing up

[grim mirage]

Upgrades are basically stat buffs and abilities are like enchantments and special things. The planet can help you understand the differences

[cloud horizon]

what are the best abilities for a tinkers cleaver?

[clear jewel]

I'm personally a big fan of sharpness

[digital saffron]

Abilities? Gilded so you can stack more upgrades

[silent terrace]

Alrighty folks. I have two bosses left before The End and they're giving me trouble. What's the strongest sword blade I can make in Tinker's

[chilly ibex]

what do you have right now? kinda important to know

[silent terrace]

At the moment, Manylynn, Hepatazion, that level of stuff. To be clear, I can kill the remaining bosses. But I want to be prepared for what comes next

[chilly ibex]

no osgloglas?

[tulip stag]

should i make a full set of just osgoglas armor or what should i combine it with? i think im mid expert mode i have access to deep dark dimension materials but i havent really gone after the bosses

[tulip stag]

nvm i dont think u can make armor with osglo

[river crown]

Usually the recommendation for armor at that level is blaze netherite plating and the thermal elemental allows fluix or if you're really far in mek protocite on chest plate. If you want to make something with osglo make a matter manipulator with disintegration crystal tough collar and osglo or many for the rest of the parts

[chilly ibex]

Blizz enderium. Disintegration is end

[river crown]

it's not only thing that takes more than nether access is echo shard which is either beating warden or chest in ancient city , you're probably thinking of voltaic wich is disintegration+endslime and endslime crystals (though even that can be done pre end if you get lucky and get a enderbark propagule from loot)

[errant forge]

is there a way to summon a lightning storm?

[serene moth]

sorry to hijack that conversation like this, but i dont think i quite understand the recommendation. assuming i have access to blaze netherite and fluix, how would one make that armor? what do i use a maille and what do i use as plating, and on which part of the armor? also do you think that set would be stronger than fully enchanted terrasteel armor?

[river crown]

Not sure how it compares to terrasteel but you want Blaze netherite as the plating and Fluix as one of the mailles. for the others Blizz Enderium,Basalz Signalum, and Blitz Lumium give good elemental damage protection and utility and are needed for the best late game tinker armor material Activated Chromatic Steel.

[serene moth]

ah, i see, thank you very much. i'll try that.

[chilly ibex]

ars nouveau ritual of cloudshaping with gunpowder iirc

either gunpowder or lapis block, just read it and it'll tell you

[errant forge]

Thanks gang

[chilly ibex]

Ask in the right channel next time though

[tulip stag]

alr thanks for letting me know its been a long while since ive played

[shy fjord]

How do you get max Melee Protection on tinkers plate armor? I made Blaze netherite plate armor with blizz enderium mallie and I cant get enough defense slots to get max melee prot. Cause every recipe is a one time use recipe for defense slots unless anti matter nugget is not a one use? Or dragon head. Ive done magnetic, Curiosity+ Rebalanced for extra defense slots but thats only 2 and im only up to Melee Prot 5

[river crown]

Iirc you only need 8 or maybe 10 levels total to max so 2-3 levels per piece

[shy fjord]

5 is 40%, 80% is max so its 10. But iI started with 3 defense slots. Then added 2. Is rebalanced infinite if you have a way to add an upgrade slot to replace it with?

[river crown]

What I'm saying is I think you only need 2 or 3 levels of melee protection on each piece so the total level is 10 you don't need 10 on each piece

[steel ermine]

whats your favorite Pickaxe + shovel and axe from tinkers? 🙂 also i need a hammer. I am pre End

[shy fjord]

Oh. I see. So 5 on each piece maybe overkill?

[river crown]

yeah

[river crown]

Matter manipulator

[chilly ibex]

80% melee protection is the sweet spot

each level of melee prot gives i think 8% so you can reach that by putting melee prot 5 on 2 pieces and then revitalized on every other defense upgrade

[frigid terrace]

Whats your guys current normal mod recommondation?

[chilly ibex]

depends what you want..it's a little different for weapons and armor..

[mellow obsidian]

I have 24 blaze netherite…where do I go from here, the books make no sense to me cuz of the tism so any help would be appreciated

[frigid terrace]

well Id appreciate a reco. for both honestly

[steel ermine]

idk why but you wont get a really good answer here ^^..

[river crown]

in terms of making armor? melt the blaze netherite then poor it into casts for the plating and maille (though really you should be using something else for maille)

then combine them in the tinker's anvil

[mellow obsidian]

I have the blaze netherite plating alr, and yeah I was gunna make blizz enderium maille but if there’s something better please let me know

[river crown]

Blizz enderium is good, though you can mix it up s bit if you want the other thermal alloys blitz luminum and basalz signalum and maybe fluix

[mellow obsidian]

I have no clue what any of that means 😭😂 I’m just trying to make armor that can defend me when against bosses since fully enchanted netherite isn’t good enough

Actually is blaze netherite even any good for plating or should I have just focused on something else

[river crown]

Blaze netherite is good for plating at that stage yes

[mellow obsidian]

Alr alr

So what maille would u recommend, I have no clue about any tinkers stuff so idk what modifiers do or anything

[river crown]

2x blizz enderium, 1x blitz luminum, 1x basalz signalum for mailles. If you know boss does a lot of damage of a particular element you can put more of the one that gives resistance to that element. For modifiers most useful ones are melee protection, combine armor with patterns that have had molten cobalt poured over them until you have 10 levels total across the pieces and revitalizing, pour molten diamonds over apples then combine with armor to get extra hearts

[mellow obsidian]

Does it matter which mailles go over which plates

[river crown]

no, though if you ever do protocite maille in the future put it in chest slot

[mellow obsidian]

Okay I’ll remember that ty

Wait are the fluix mailles or are they just modifiers I can add to them

Cuz they can heal with RF right

Not heal but mend

[river crown]

yes fluix can be a maille, it give wither and poison immunity and lets you repair in an AE2 charger. though on the other hand since you have blaze netherite plating you can already repair by sitting in lava

[mellow obsidian]

Ahhh cool that works with my lava walkers and fire immunity then

[chilly ibex]

blaze netherite is the best plating for mid game

[mellow obsidian]

can someone explain to me how to make cinderslime so i can make over heated lava

i tried putting an ichor ball in foundry with the foundry bricks and gold, but its just making them seperate and turning into blazing blood

im so confused

[river crown]

has to be in smeltery or alloyer not foundry

[pulsar lodge]

yeah the Foundry explicitly doesn't make alloys

that's half of its sidegrade nature

[mellow obsidian]

I tried in the smeltry too

but it keeps turning the ichor into blazing blood

[river crown]

you take liquid ichor out of the foundry and put it into the smeltery

in a bucket or a basic fluid tank from mekanism would be how i'd do it

[pulsar lodge]

you could also set up a channel that pours from your foundry to your smeltery

[mellow obsidian]

Okay i figured it out ty

new issue tho

im trying to make a blitz lumium maille, but whenever i put it in my smeltry its just giving me molten lumium, is it chance based? or am i doing smething wrong

nvm

im dumb

[river crown]

yeah that ones a little weird

I made that mistake myself

[mellow obsidian]

Yeah i didnt realise it was the foundry haha

is melee protection 3 the highest it can go

and are there any other modifiers i should add other than the hearts and melee protection

[chilly ibex]

can go to 5, also no

melee prot and revitalized

[mellow obsidian]

Okay so it says i have 2 upgrades on them right. On each of the plate armor, To go past melee protection 3 i need to add a defece slot, meaning protection 5 would be another defence slot no? if thats the case i wont have any slots left for revitalized

[chilly ibex]

i don't remember how to get melee prot 5 on one piece

but there's traits that give defence

[chilly ibex]

according to our spreadsheet

[mellow obsidian]

That confuses the hell outta me XD

i know nothing about tinkers

im suprised i got as far as i have rn

[chilly ibex]

what stage are you even at

nether? great below?

[mellow obsidian]

Great below would be accurate

[chilly ibex]

so late nether then

[mellow obsidian]

I havnt got to the end cuz the bosses pretty much instakill me T_T

thats why im forcing myself to do this since tinkers is like the only way apprantly

[chilly ibex]

yea, i really don't remember how go get 5 defence slots on one piece of armor

[river crown]

You don't really need to

[chilly ibex]

i know my endgame tinker's armor had 40% on 2 pieces

[river crown]

Gilded is pretty easy to do since it's just a golden apple

[chilly ibex]

that doesn't help get defence slots

[mellow obsidian]

Im still confused tho, If i need to get melle protec 5, but to do that i need 5 defence slots how do i do that since i cant add revitalising on since i wont have any more defence slots left

[mellow obsidian]

isnt it using the rebalanced with sky slime?

[river crown]

you don't need melee protec 5, you need melee protec 10 total across your 4 pieces

[chilly ibex]

i did fine with 2 melee prot 5 pieces

[mellow obsidian]

wait so if all 4 pieces are protec 3

then im sorted

T_T

[chilly ibex]

that doesn't leave any room for revitalized

[river crown]

that would be over kill, it maxes out at 80% which is 10 total

[mellow obsidian]

I mean i didnt know that

but i can add revitalized with extra defence slots

right

XD

[river crown]

well you can remove some with modifier table and a wet sponge

of the extra protec levels I mean

[mellow obsidian]

So what. 3 of the plates as protec 3, then the last one at protec 1, then add revitalised to the protec 1 armor

[chilly ibex]

again, you can add defence slots with some traits

i think you can search the slots in JEi and it'll tell you which traits to use

[mellow obsidian]

i can add defence slots with something called rebalanced

but i need earthslime crystals and i have no clue where to find them XD

[chilly ibex]

you can only do 2 different upgrades of rebalanced, so you can't just do multiple

[mellow obsidian]

Thats fine i only want it for revitalised so i can get it on each piece of armor

other than melle protec then and revitalised each armor has 2 upgrade slots available

should i use them? just like add more durability or smth

[chilly ibex]

regular upgrades don't use defence slots so use them for whatever

[mellow obsidian]

What would you reccomend for a weapon against bosses

I noticed blaze netherite even with protec 10 all round and revitalising isnt the best against some bosses, they can still 1 hit me, so i dont really know where to go from here

[mellow obsidian]

Does anyone know why it wont let me make the diamond cut gem even tho its in JEI

[clear jewel]

i've found that if the bosses (excluding ice/fire dragons) can 1hit you with a certain attack, then it's intended that you avoid the attack. Took me a while to figure out with the sunbird that I needed to hide when he flipped his crown

[mellow obsidian]

Tbh the main bosses that can 1hit me are the cataclysm bosses, the mowzies bosses i killed easily before i even started tinkers, specifically maledictus tho, i hate him

[clear jewel]

if memory serves, maledictus has color signals to telegraph his upcoming attacks

that might be a better conversation for another channel tho

[gray schooner]

what would be a solid pre-end matter manipulator build?

[river crown]

this is mine, Disintegration crystal tough collar is really the only important part, I used osglogas for other parts but you could use something else like many or heptazion instead

[queen bone]

Anyone know a way to extract the data for the materials, attributes, etc? My intention is to make some spreadsheets from it. I can't find the relevant book.json files.

[clear jewel]

is this what you're looking for?

perhaps this?

oh sorry, you're looking for the source code so you don't gotta copy it by hand... i misread

[queen bone]

No, definitely not. I am looking for the out-of-game data. I don't want to take a billion screenshots and OCR it to make a spreadsheet.

[clear jewel]

yeah, sorry, i got nuthin

[queen bone]

Thanks anyway!

[clear jewel]

I would be interested in a link if you publish the spreadsheet though

i cannot type today... i swear, i am college educated

[queen bone]

If I find a way to do it I'll share it

My first thought was the book.json files used to make those Patchouli in-game books but I can't find those in my installation.

[pulsar lodge]

all of it would be in here https://github.com/SlimeKnights/TinkersConstruct/tree/1.20.1/src/generated/resources/data/tconstruct/tinkering/materials/stats
for addons, you'll need to look at their source code, or peek into the jar.

though there is already an MCE2-specific spreadsheet (see pins here)

[queen bone]

Thanks a lot!

[median wadi]

hi peeps, got a small question for matter manipulator, does any liquid work for that thing? spend a good 1 hr just treating it like a hammer lol

[river crown]

not sure if it's literally any but I know lava and molten quartz work

[swift scaffold]

i saw cleaver as is .8 is there a way for it to be faster or no? Like accessories… and the extra add ons

[river crown]

if you have modifier slots open put a bunch of redstone on it

[thin owl]

I believe it's amethyst for weapons

[swift scaffold]

is a matter maniuplator just u8ised for normal pickaxe mining?

oh shoot

sorry for piung

[river crown]

No, if you put a hot liquid in it you can right click to shoot mining laser

[swift scaffold]

ahh

is it expensive to make that? Like i just got to deep dark and ive been running around kinda im still working on blaze netherite + tink weapon

[river crown]

Not horrendously especially if you use many or heptazion instead of osglogas. Hardest part is getting echo shards from either killing normal Warden or chests in ancient city (I think you need three total iirc if you're using disintegration crystal tough collar) and alloying the various slimes you need can be slightly annoying

[swift scaffold]

okay

right now i think i am going to try making an osglogas weapon, since currently im still using an iron sword

is there like a best weapon or is it all pref? since i thought cleaver but it also looks kinda slow

[thin owl]

Cleaver and katana are widely regarded as the best iirc

[swift scaffold]

yeah

yay*

i like big sword

[thin owl]

CLANG

[steel ermine]

isnt the death synthe one of the best ?

Scythe*

[thin owl]

Well yes, but we're in the tinker's thread

[steel ermine]

oh my bad sorry !

[torn robin]

is there a list somewhere to get all the modifiers too?

[river crown]

you can look up the name in JEI to see what items it needs

[austere oar]

yeah what they said. Tho if you mean fluid modifiers, there's a bug atm where they wont show in the all-in-one book. Might still be in the ultra dense book tho? Just make sure to right click not left lol

[torn robin]

Appreciated, do you guys have armor sets you’d recommend?

[austere oar]

I haven't worked on my armour for a second since I haven't been boss fighting. So I made more "around the house" type of armour which is blazing netherite plates then like a different maille for each pieces. I use blitz luminium, basaltz signalium, blizz enderium, and the name of the last one slips my mind since it's newer... but you make it from melting down the explody green crystals in the nether in a foundry I think it might have been called like antimony or something? It makes you immune to withering and poison. Then I slapped on the croc scutes and the snapping turtle scutes so I'm immune to pretty much everything except fall damage (which I negate with bunny slippers)

[swift scaffold]

yooo wehat upgrades do i slap on this hoe

[queen bone]

What's the maximum effective level of Protection that can go on an armor set? How should it be distributed among the pieces? If it matters, the armor set is blazing netherite plates on all four and the maile pieces are antimony, blizz enderium, blitz lumium, and basalz signalum.

[queen bone]

Maybe Melee Protection? That's what I'm going for first

[swift scaffold]

i put 10 levels of cobalt reinforcement in

now i have 2 slots left on the boots and i might do speed idrk yet and then i still have abilities which i have no clue for

you got any ideas on those bro ?

[queen bone]

Not really, that's what I'm currently trying to figure out

[river crown]

if nothing else you can use gilded (golden apples) to turn them into defense slots

[chilly ibex]

gilded adds normal upgrade slots, i thought

[patent solar]

hi ! For a Blaze Netherite armor with Blizz Enderium maille , i saw that Melee protection is a thing , i suppose i'm going to indestructible first and adding modifier to put those Melee prot on it after ?

[chilly ibex]

melee prot takes defence slots, i don't think the armor needs indestructible because blaze netherite allows the armor to repair in lava, on top of the ars nouveau modifiers that use magebloom fibers to repair the armor as well

[patent solar]

oh what's the modifier for that ?

[chilly ibex]

use JEI to look at what recipes use magebloom fibers

[patent solar]

that thing ? doesnt look like repearable with fiber ? :/

I mean , maybe its a hidden thing ?

[chilly ibex]

that's the modifier...it repairs with mana once you put it on the armor :/

[patent solar]

ohhh ok ok 😄 Merci 😄

[swift scaffold]

hey i have been looking in JEI to find thisa ars magebloom fiber modiifer but i cant seem to see it i looked everywhere

am i missing something or no

[chilly ibex]

have you tried typing just "magebloom"??

[swift scaffold]

yeah like im really confused

[chilly ibex]

now look for the fiber

[swift scaffold]

i spent a good 10ish minutes making sure i didnt see it before pinging u so i dont look like an idiot

[chilly ibex]

i don't remember if it's spelled fibre

[swift scaffold]

omg

i found it

[chilly ibex]

at least you tried looking, others "look" for like 5 seconds before giving up

[swift scaffold]

Yeah... sorry about that, I thouight it was going to show like its own actual item / like i click it and it would show the modifer, not that it would have its own tab

[chilly ibex]

wdym

tinker modifiers DO have their own tab

[swift scaffold]

well i searched through the tinkers mod like @tinkers' Integrations and tweaks and found nothing of it

so i was sooo lost

no no sorry im making this sound much more complicated

[chilly ibex]

if an item is used in a tinker's modifier and you go to that specific item, you can look at those certain modifers that use the item you're looking at

[swift scaffold]

okay. also this is an upgrade slot or ability slot?

[chilly ibex]

upgrade

it'll tell you if you look

idk what keybinds you have setup for JEI but if you hit the one for recipe uses, there's a tinker modifier tab

and it'll tell you if it uses whatever slot

[swift scaffold]

now im kinda confused by all the upgraade slots, if im putitng the auto repair do i really need the dimaond and emerald upgrades?

[pulsar lodge]

potentially not, though both of those do have other lesser effects, diamond bumps all the stats a bit for one

[chilly ibex]

diamond, netherite, and emerald all increase armor and toughness

[swift scaffold]

ig i dont need magebloom then if my armor heals while its in lava then

i onlky have 4 upgrades rn so im js trying so hard to think it out

[swift scaffold]

what does metamorhpium stack uip to?

[chilly ibex]

you can't have multiple pieces because it won't do anything, the positive side is that it increases stats on that tool or armor piece by 25%

[swift scaffold]

wait I cannot have multiple pieces of metamoprhium? Cause i have 1 metamorphium on each piece or armor

because i made each piece have a enderblizz maille

[chilly ibex]

you can have blizz enderium on multiple pieces, what i meant was you can't have more than one material AS blizz on one tool or armor piece, my fault

[swift scaffold]

ohhh okay

you scared the shit out of me, i was like aint no way i did all this work for that

[chilly ibex]

no, it was my terrible wording

my bad

[austere oar]

til if you click both the right and left mouse button while shift clicking items that are multiple stacks (like stack upgraded backpacks) then you pull 2 stacks of the item out instead of one

[pulsar lodge]

that is two clicks so yes this makes sense

[swift scaffold]

why cannot i add the magebloom fibers?

am i using the wrong station ?

[pulsar lodge]

if the items are shown spread out in the recipe, they need to be spread out in the station/anvil too

[swift scaffold]

you right, i alsoi used the wrong anvil lol

[swift scaffold]

anything i can change to improve this baddie?>

[chilly ibex]

look for a different plate with a good trait

osgloglas handle isn't bad

chromatic steel would be the best to replace the osgloglas handle, or even plate

[swift scaffold]

i thought about using a blaze netherite plate im looking at it rn, and then ACS is something i js dont have rn and itlltake a minute tio chanvge

i was only getting the extra osgloglgas for all that bigger dmg

I'd imagine id have to et the blitz and all those other mobs in containers to make it easier

[river crown]

Or powered spawners but yes you'll want some way to farm them reliably, iirc it took about a full stack of each of their drops to make a full set of ACS armor

[swift scaffold]

im not sure if i can find the spawner for them

[river crown]

You don't need to, catch one in a soul vial and put it and a powered spawner for different mob in soul binder

[swift scaffold]

wait what?

[swift scaffold]

this is the weapon i ended up making

i didnt have ACS or voltaic crystsal so i js went with this idrk what i coudlve rdone too differently w what i have

[hasty valve]

Wouldn't you also wanna have Fiery on the sword to make use of Frost Plating?

[swift scaffold]

how can i get fiery

@hasty valve

[hasty valve]

Blaze powder

[swift scaffold]

and it’s an upgrade slot?

[hasty valve]

Yep

Sets target on fire so you do 2x damage thanks to Frost Plating

[torn robin]

what would yall recommend for modifiers for armors?

[swift scaffold]

cobalt

[balmy veldt]

Hey guys i've just finished making my Netherite Blaze + Enderium blizz maille armors and Im wondering about some things. I've only made it to the Nether for now and use a Blade of Blahaj to kill stuff..

Could I make a stronger weapon with what's available?
Should I have put different material mailles per piece instead of full Enderium Blizz?
Which upgrades should I throw on em? I saw Cobalt getting recommended..

[chilly ibex]

blizz enderium is the best maille for mid-game

you can easily get a few levels of melee prot on each piece and be fine

[hasty valve]

I put 10 Cobalt upgrades and then rest Jeweled apples for mine

[swift scaffold]

hey im making a matter maniuplator right now and im kinda confused

should i just go all out on the osgloglas or continue changing it for smth elsee?

[chilly ibex]

never use the same material for every piece unless it's like chromatic steel

[swift scaffold]

oh okay

matter manipualtor js seems a bit confusing icl

[chilly ibex]

just mess around in the planner

[swift scaffold]

do they count as normal tools?

like will i need a pickaxe and shovel still if i have a matter manip?

[chilly ibex]

pretty sure manip is all in one

[swift scaffold]

ohhh okay ive never amde one so idrk what it does

one more quick question not really tinkers relatied BUT what baout bows?

are the tinker bows good ?

good / fun

[chilly ibex]

fun? eh. good? definitely not

[patent solar]

Hi ! What can i use for a good katana Expert mode ?

[eager mantle]

Is there an updated spreadsheet with community recomendations? The current one only has 1 item listed for normal mode and the rest seem to be for master mode.

[swift scaffold]

hows this so far? I cant really tell if there is a btter container or not

[lapis sundial]

@chilly ibex hey tray I have a quick question if u don’t mind

[chilly ibex]

sure

[chilly ibex]

not sure what the lustrous is, but i wouldn't use vein mining as the manip always mines in a 3x3

[lapis sundial]

Okay so you told me blaze netherite plating . And enderium blizz mail thingy

[chilly ibex]

yup

[lapis sundial]

But how do I make the plating itself

Is it just the mold

For armor piece

[chilly ibex]

yea, you have to make a basic plating out of leather first in the tool builder i think in order to make a plating cast

[lapis sundial]

Alright thanks ! And once I get the plating cast I can just put it on table and pour the blaze netherite

[chilly ibex]

basically yea

i don't remember exactly how to get the plating cast but i'm 90% sure you make a leather armor piece first (not vanilla) and then slap some gold over it

[balmy veldt]

i used sand casts cuz im not really making those often

[torn robin]

what end game armors/tools should i be making

[lapis sundial]

nice i got it, thank you! now for blizz.. is there spawners i can find?

[chilly ibex]

no, just go to cold/snowy biomes and they'll spawn

[lapis sundial]

night time only i assume?

[chilly ibex]

well, yea..

[lapis sundial]

@chilly ibex

boom

thank u so much!

i wouldnt have been able to figure it out

[chilly ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-ok-great-good-thumbs-up-gif-16351183

[lapis sundial]

what other upgrades can i add to it

or is that it

[chilly ibex]

add melee prot and revitalized, that's all you need

[lapis sundial]

what ores are those? if u know off top of ur head

[chilly ibex]

add as much melee prot as you can while leaving some defence slots for revitalized

[lapis sundial]

also does mending work on tinkers

[chilly ibex]

melee prot you need to pour cobalt onto obsidian plates

revitalized is jeweled apples which is just diamond poured onto apples

[lapis sundial]

bro u are so clutch

u are the goat

[chilly ibex]

the armor itself repairs by itself if you're in lava/on fire, you can also do the Novice trait which uses magebloom fiber, and it'll use ars nouveau mana to repair a bit more

feel free to add a couple reinforcement upgrades to further increase durability (it really just prevents losing some durability)

[lapis sundial]

so i only get 2 upgrade slots per piece

okay i kinda get it

[chilly ibex]

throw regular golden apples at the armor pieces (a single gold apple) and it'll trade an ability slot for 2 normal upgrade slots

[lapis sundial]

ooo is that worth it

i can do that rn

[chilly ibex]

yes, armor doesn't have a LOT of ability upgrades that are really worth iirc

you can look yourself if there's any that you REALLY want but from what i remember, not many are worth having

it's better to just fortify the armor and toughness values

[lapis sundial]

yeah thats what im gonna do , i dont think ill add the ars thing

[chilly ibex]

diamond, emerald, and netherite upgrades do that

[lapis sundial]

unless it repairs really slow

[chilly ibex]

i'd recommend the ars thing, it repairs over time using ars nouveau mana

[lapis sundial]

even if i havent used the ars at all

i have base 100 mana

[chilly ibex]

yea

that's fine

[lapis sundial]

so do i need to put that on every piece , or just one

[chilly ibex]

it doesn't matter how much mana you have, it'll still repair the armor

all

[lapis sundial]

ight bet thanks , i really appreicate it

hope its not a hassle

[chilly ibex]

no, it's really not

[lapis sundial]

uh oh did i mess up

[chilly ibex]

you're not using the anvil

[lapis sundial]

didnt even know there was an anvikl, let me make that rq

[chilly ibex]

how'd you make the armor without the anvil 😭

[lapis sundial]

tinker station

[chilly ibex]

it does that? bruh

[lapis sundial]

yeah , unless i messed up

[chilly ibex]

no you didn't

[chilly ibex]

wait, the station says your armor doesn't have ability slots?

[lapis sundial]

yes

[chilly ibex]

i don't remember armor not having ability slots from the moment you make it

uh....

[lapis sundial]

uh yes

[chilly ibex]

well then

[lapis sundial]

i thought u were ab to say i messed up somwehre

hmmm

so that leabves me with 2 upgrade per

so the ars will take up one

will the obsidian plate with cobalt take up a slot?

or is that a defesne slot

[chilly ibex]

melee prot is defence

you should have 3 defence slots on each armor piece

[lapis sundial]

yes

3 and 2 upgrades

[chilly ibex]

so if you do 2 upgrades on each armor piece, you'll be able to have a few revitalized levels

[lapis sundial]

2 of the obsidian plates correct ? then a revilazited

is what im getting

i dont remmeber tinkers being this confusing

[chilly ibex]

so, you first pour obsidian into an empty cast table right?

[lapis sundial]

to get a pane

yes

[chilly ibex]

ye, then you pour cobalt onto that

[lapis sundial]

doing it rn

[chilly ibex]

that makes 1 level of melee prot

[lapis sundial]

was it supposed to be a plate or a pane

[chilly ibex]

obsidian pane

[lapis sundial]

odd, its not working

[chilly ibex]

unless i'm remembering wrong

[lapis sundial]

let me try plate

[chilly ibex]

just use JEI to look up the melee protection recipe

could've sworn it was just a pane with cobalt

[lapis sundial]

what would i search up in jei for htat, i have been trying to find it

[chilly ibex]

just...melee protection iirc

[lapis sundial]

yeah i searched that upm just a bunch of cobalt stuff

[chilly ibex]

screenshot

[chilly ibex]

ok yea uhhh

[lapis sundial]

i see it

...

last one

huh

[chilly ibex]

oh yea, modifiers show up in JEI

i completely forgot about that

need to get back into this pack once the next update drops.....

[lapis sundial]

oh its a pattern with cobalt poured

[chilly ibex]

a pattern?

[lapis sundial]

that seems,,, too easy

[chilly ibex]

because it is

[chilly ibex]

ahhh

[lapis sundial]

so that is right?...

[chilly ibex]

i remember there being a regular protection upgrade like non-tinker's armor

i wouldn't be able to tell you unless i pulled my launcher out of dusty storage

but i just remember there being specific protection upgrades and then one that's similar to the protection enchant

[lapis sundial]

teh revitalizing is right

maybe refined obsidian?

[chilly ibex]

i don't remember what refined obsidian was

for a moment i thought of obsidian tool parts

[lapis sundial]

yeah i just looked up every #protection

enchant

or tinker modi

this easy one is only melee protection

can i take it off if its wrong

[chilly ibex]

screenshot

it should take multiple for one level

[chilly ibex]

yea ok

[chilly ibex]

this is correct, i was picturing i think the reinforcement upgrade

[lapis sundial]

so can i stack 2 of those

like defense slots

so 10 total upgrades

[pulsar lodge]

plate armor comes with no abilities, that's part of its tradeoff for having more defense slots

[lapis sundial]

then last 5 on revit

[chilly ibex]

well, like i said, you need multiple for one level of melee prot...

so you need quite a few

[lapis sundial]

oh wait so each piece can take more the 5

[chilly ibex]

i think you're confusing me more than yourself

[lapis sundial]

haha

ive never had this much troubkle with a mod

bro im like pro with ae2

this makes ae2 seem hard

easy

i mean

[chilly ibex]

so, in order to get a SINGLE level of melee protection, you need 5 of the pattern

does that make sense?

[lapis sundial]

yes so after 5, i get one level

[chilly ibex]

and i agree, tinker's is VERY confusing

[lapis sundial]

so will it tell me when its capped?

like right now i have 12 total cobalt reinforcenmnets

[pulsar lodge]

it won't say X / 5 when it's a full level

that only appears when you have a partial level, and it shows you the progress in that level

[lapis sundial]

i see now

[pulsar lodge]

tmk the whole "incremental modifier" system is mostly a thing that lets you apply half of a modifier now if you don't have everything for it

but it also has the sideeffect of letting you tune the strength of certain modifiers to your liking

[chilly ibex]

yep

better get to work increasing that metamorphium percentage

[lapis sundial]

can i just walk into xp farm . and then walk into lava

im assuming it caps at 100%

[chilly ibex]

it caps at 25% actually, it increases the base armor stats

as long as the armor loses durability, it doesn't matter how

that's what you do to increase metamorphium

[lapis sundial]

damn tahts lowkey OP, so it incerases armor stat?

[chilly ibex]

i don't remember EXACTLY what it does but it's really strong for mid game

it doesn't trivialize boss fights or anything but it helps immensely

[lapis sundial]

wait so this armor becomes fodder in end

[chilly ibex]

wdym

why would it be fodder

[lapis sundial]

like becomes bad

or can i conutnie to upgrade it

so is this better then cursium , all people on my server got taht . looks solid

[chilly ibex]

it's still good passed nether but it drops off a bit

tinker's armor is always better

people use the cursium chest just for the free totem pop

[river crown]

Once you get to end start working on replacing the parts with activated chromatic steel

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel is the best tinker's material imo

[river crown]

Also protocite maille for chest piece

[lapis sundial]

wait so i can add that to this current armor once i get there

[chilly ibex]

that's why it got nerfed to be end access only

you can replace the blizz enderium but you'll lose the boost it gives

[river crown]

Yes you can replace parts on current arnot

Replace the blaze netherite first

[lapis sundial]

this mod is crazy

[chilly ibex]

yea, tinker's is good

[lapis sundial]

can u remove upgrades? or defense slots

[river crown]

Yeah put it and a wet sponge in a modifier table

[lapis sundial]

thank u

accidenlty added 3 levels of reinforncemnt

meant to do one reniforcment

one melee

and one of teh heart ones

[fading barn]

any recommendations? i only have nether activated so far

[chilly ibex]

that's really low damage for early-mid

[fading barn]

what can i do?

[chilly ibex]

i'd say 20 base damage is minimum for early nether

use the tinker planning button

[fading barn]

what planning button?

[chilly ibex]

the blue button above the output slot

it looks like a blueprint kinda thing

you can use that in combination with the spreadsheet to see what materials are in which mode

[fading barn]

ill test it in a minute

[chilly ibex]

why are you going for overslime in the first place?

[fading barn]

idk

highest dmg i have rn

idk early nether this is like the highest i can get

[fading barn]

and what are like good abilities for a sword?

[swift scaffold]

does netherite come on these by default adn takes an upgrade slot or am i stupid since i feel like im missing one for ref these are thje modifers on it

[pulsar lodge]

it does come as default with blaze netherite yeah

you can check a part of it in JEI, or check other info on the tool

[chilly ibex]

Thought this was obvious as you make the material with netherite, as well as the material name

[swift scaffold]

yeah i thought so too, but when i was counting the upgrades i had i felt like i was missing one slot?

it comes with 3, i have diamond emerald and novice but i added harmonious and resurrected

• crystalline but i haven’t used that upgrade slot yet

[hasty valve]

What would be the suggested upgrades for the ion cannon? I've got a 2x Osg Blade 1x Blizz Chamber 1x Blazing Bone handle and got 5 upgrade slots

Already put in Swift Strike Ex 5, Resonance Amplifier and Fiery on it

[swift scaffold]

yeah when i looked in the anvil thing w sponge i had a netherite upgrade that was removeable but still kept netherite on it

[chilly ibex]

because it's an innate trait with blaze netherite..

[swift scaffold]

NONO

like

hang on

here it is not showing netherite but the chestplate has netherite on it obviously. However when I checked it earlier, the way it is showing diamond with a pickaxe it did the same with a netherite ingot. I removed it and the chestplate still has netherite and I got an upgrade slot back

[chilly ibex]

wait, so what my brain is saying is that you just get more upgrade slots while keeping the trait? that's a bug....

you shouldn't be able to remoe netherite from blaze netherite in the first place

[swift scaffold]

well i thought i got scammed out of an upgrade slot because it had netherite on it

[chilly ibex]

no you didn't

[swift scaffold]

because originally when i first made this armor it allowed me to add the netherite so i thought it took a slot

[chilly ibex]

just like emper said before, the armor comes with netherite by default

so you added netherite on top of it being there already and then removed it...

[swift scaffold]

yeah but tbf it didnt let me for other armor pieces so i was very confused at first

[shy fjord]

Whats the next tier for mining materials after Hepatizon?

[eager mantle]

Alright looking for some suggestions for early to mid expert weapons. I have access to blazing nether and blizz, but not sure what to do for some other slots

[hasty valve]

Most people tend to prefer Clever/Katana with Osgloglas blades for weapons

[eager mantle]

I don't think I have found osgloglas yet, will keep that in mind. Double blade with blizz and blaze handles?

Or would it be similar to what man1ac did with his ion cannon

[river crown]

Osgloglas isn't found BTW, it's alloyed from Osmium, Refined Glowstone and Refined Obsidian

[eager mantle]

Using the same blizz handle and blazing bone handle like with your cannon?

[hasty valve]

For my cleaver I'm using 1x Osglo Blade 1x Osglo Handle 1x Blizz Handle and 1x Blaze Netherite Plate

[eager mantle]

Ah because the blaze is the repair material correct.

Or I guess with blaze it won't matter due to the fire self repair. Thanks for the tips

[swift scaffold]

omg bro how did you make your matter manipulators?

[river crown]

parts are disintegration crystal tough collar, Osglogas for the rest these are the other upgrades

[swift scaffold]

does lucky and fortune 3 stack?

[river crown]

I think so

[chilly ibex]

Yes

It basically goes to fortune 6

[swift scaffold]

oh woah

does anybody know how i can put molten quartz insidew the matter manipuialtor?

[swift scaffold]

also how does the matter manip work? i tried mining obsidian by js holding left click and it never dropped the obi

[pulsar lodge]

right-click

[river crown]

Right click on a tank with some molten quartz in it

[shy fjord]

How you put lucky and fortune on tinkers?

[river crown]

Lucky is a modifier you can add in tinker's anvil check jei for lucky, luckier and luckiest. for fortune I think it only comes from using specific materials in this case disintegrate crystals

[shy fjord]

Got it. Disintegrate crystals I assume are not expert mode?

[river crown]

they aren't really practical without nether access I don't think.

[swift scaffold]

does left click just remove the block permanently? Because when i left click stone it would drop it to me, i also am using an osgloglas one so it was moving to the chest

[shy fjord]

Im in the nether. Im just not aware of any material that isnt in the books

For example Osgloglas is not in the books for me

[swift scaffold]

for the tool tip I have to right click regularly? Or do i need to make an entire extra tool handle ?

basically is there a way to change the left click to make it a single block ?

[lament yew]

Hey does anyone know some good tinkers normal mode armor?

[shy fjord]

Imo tinkers armor isnt worth it till the nether. But I could be wrong. I didnt really look at it till the nether

[river crown]

I don' think the tool handle has to be any particular material so you could just make a wood one

[shy fjord]

Is osgloglas supposed to be in the encyclopedia?

[shy fjord]

I know people mentioned blizz enderium Mallie. With any plate. But thats as much as I remember

[lament yew]

In that normal mode? That sounds, end-y

[river crown]

that enderium is from thermal and made from ender pearls and diamonds, the other enderium is from Majrusz's Progressive Difficulty and the enderium shards it's crafted from are end only

[eager mantle]

We used steel armor for normal mode. Just take some iron ingots, blow them up with TNT for the compressed iron then blast furnace it. Pretty OP for normal.

[chilly ibex]

enderpearl and diamonds? where'd you get that from

[river crown]

what is it?

[chilly ibex]

blizz enderium isn't made from diamonds i'm pretty sure

[pulsar lodge]

standard enderium is

so blizz enderium indirectly is

[chilly ibex]

hm....

i guess i just haven't played longer than i thought, waiting for the new update to play again

[river crown]

yeah that's what I thought

[lament pilot]

can you make armor/weapons that are better than diamond pre nether with tinkers?

[hexed hazel]

yes

depends on the combination

[lament pilot]

sorry i couldve worded that better

i was wondering what kinda armor i should at least have when i aim to go to the nether

since theres so many different combinations of materials in tinkers

its kinda overwhelming

[bronze sky]

What combinations would you recommend ?

[chilly ibex]

It depends on what stage you're in

[steep hornet]

Does anyone know of a good armor setup pre-nether? I've put together some decent tools and a good sword but armor is completely baffling to me.

[hasty valve]

Steel armor is pretty decent

[steep hornet]

oke, any good modifiers?

[hasty valve]

Revitalizing perhaps? Gives some extra hearts

[bronze sky]

Just so i got a target really as im ngl i know i dont know anything bout tinkers

[chilly ibex]

Are you early game, mid game as in nether?

[bronze sky]

Not gone to nether yet, Once I load up minecraft ill send a picture of my loadout.

[chilly ibex]

Again, we have a spreadsheet that lists damn near every material for making anything if you need help finding materials

[bronze sky]

Yes please

[chilly ibex]

look in pinned

[bronze sky]

Message by gentleman?

[chilly ibex]

Yes, the only thing that's pinned

With a spreadsheet link

[bronze sky]

Aight cheers

[bronze sky]

This is my loadout

[chilly ibex]

I mean all I can guess is you haven't been to the nether....idfk

This doesn't tell me much

[bronze sky]

Ah aight ahah

[hexed hazel]

Early on I went for brass until I could unlock steel

[hexed hazel]

You should learn about it its really good

[thin temple]

Any good expert mode bow and dagger combination

[chilly ibex]

daggers are decent for trash mobs but not for bosses whatsoever

[thin temple]

OKi

What about ranged weapon

[chilly ibex]

your best bet is to just use some kinda magic, tinker's bows are decent

[thin temple]

Any recommend bow materials?

[chilly ibex]

pinned messages has our spreadsheet

you can also plan a bow by clicking the blueprint-looking button in the tinker anvil

[thin temple]

Oki thank you

[steep hornet]

for bows: what is better? is higher draw speed better (higher = faster) or is lower draw speed better (lower = less time)

[lament yew]

Is there a way to put mending on tinker’s tools? And is there a way to give them more abilities

[pulsar lodge]

there's the Overmending modifier added by Tinker Tantrum. and for more abilities, certain extra slot modifiers can grant more, Draconic, Quantum Technology, and the Ability variant of Rebalanced are the main ones

[lament yew]

Thank you

How does overmending work?

[pulsar lodge]

if you're familiar with 1.12 Tinkers' Mending Moss, its function is very similar to that, though the exact values are different, and it of course restores Overslime as opposed to Durability

[lament yew]

Gotcha, is overslime like an extra durability bar?

[pulsar lodge]

pretty much, it's a Durability Shield effect, that takes damage first instead of the main durability

[lapis sundial]

does magebloom fiber make my armor repair?

[lament yew]

Is overslime/mending worth it?

[pulsar lodge]

i mean i would hope so since i made overmending

but i haven't tested it super extensively

but with it being an overslime-oriented modifier, it will want your tool to atleast spec somewhat into overslime

[lament yew]

Haha, ok gotcha. Thank you

[lapis sundial]

Hey guys, what large plat do you guys recommend for my osgloglas cleaver

i have a blizz enderium handle and a blizz netehrite

[hasty valve]

Used blaze netherite for mine and I'm pretty happy w/ it

[chilly ibex]

Blizz enderium is a better plate imo

Just for the metamorphium, blizz itself doesn't have the best stats

[hasty valve]

I used Blizz for the handle instead. The 2x damage on burning targets comes in handy

[eager mantle]

Do you throw fiery on the weapon then?

[lapis sundial]

@chilly ibex any recommended upgrades for my cleaver

[lapis sundial]

ahh dang didnt see thjis

[chilly ibex]

not manyullyn

blizz enderium is the best

[lapis sundial]

Is it possible to take off the manyullyn plate

I have blizz enderium

As a handle

I just tried finding the best sounding stats

Mayullyn sounded alright

[chilly ibex]

what's your handle rn

@lapis sundial

[lapis sundial]

I have a blizz enderium and a blaze netherite handle

And ofc the Ogsoglas sword

And the manyullyn plate

[chilly ibex]

you already have blizz enderium?

oh i didn't see it cuz the text is too dark

[lapis sundial]

Yeah but I have some upgrade slots

[chilly ibex]

not a lot of good upgrades for weapons

imo

[balmy veldt]

Guys im just theorycrafting but I don't trust the DPS dummies

i've got 2 Katanas

they're both Osgloglas blades, the other one has Manyullyun though

rest is Blizz Enderium and Voltaic Crystal Handles

I was thinking because of the high attack speed of the Katana the Insatiable modifier just makes the most sense and should end up as more DPS even tho the Damage shown in the tooltip shows otherwise

am I on the right track there?

[chilly ibex]

what you can do is just make a test dummy

[balmy veldt]

I don't trust the DPS dummies

the stats it shows are fucked up and inconsistent

[chilly ibex]

they're accurate enough, but obviously not exact

[balmy veldt]

have you got any experience with the two urself?

[chilly ibex]

with a cleaver yea

katana not so much since cleaver is the strongest base

[balmy veldt]

I see

do you remember what you made your cleaver out of pre-End?

[chilly ibex]

osgloglas and blizz enderium obviously, everything else is up to you

[balmy veldt]

both on blade?

[chilly ibex]

blizz enderium preferably for the plate but cn also be used for handle

we use blizz for the trait, not the stats

i've seen others use blaze netherite

you can check the spreadsheet or use the planner button in the anvil

[balmy veldt]

fair enough, i was thinking it may be better on the handle because its Head stats seem so bad but as a handle it gives nice atk speed

[chilly ibex]

blizz is REALLY bad for everything but the trait lmao

4.5 mining speed is average

[balmy veldt]

mining speed doesnt impact the dmg n stuff tho right

[chilly ibex]

25% attack speed is below average

i'm looking at the other stats than just combat

[balmy veldt]

ah fair

[chilly ibex]

blizz really IS bad other than the trait, holy

-10% melee damage if used for handle 😭

i forgot how awful the stats are

[balmy veldt]

yah.. its rough

ig it makes sense to throw it on the head at the expense for like +2 base dmg

and use a better handle

Blazing Bone looks better

[chilly ibex]

honestly, yea

[lapis sundial]

@chilly ibex so can I like change my sword . Or since it’s crafted it’s over . I’m not happy with 16 base damage

[chilly ibex]

use sponge to remove the modifiers in one of the stations and you can change the part out in the anvil, something like that

[pulsar lodge]

you can also use different slime crystals to extract modifiers and preserve them as crystals for future reuse

[lapis sundial]

Thank you both

[lament yew]

Any way to increase a materials trait level? Like metamorphic?

[chilly ibex]

use more than 1 of the same material if it has something like "Ductile I" or something to indicate different levels

[lament yew]

Oh ok so like make armor with both plate and maile with the same material?

[chilly ibex]

basically but for armor it's not recommended

[wraith pebble]

made a pre nether Ion Cannon using a Blazing netherite and Pneumatic reinforced steel blade, Fluix core, and Blitz Enderium toolrod that does oneshots a friend in full prop 4 ars tier 3 armor if they are on fire

[toxic grove]

so i started the pack yestarday, havent use tinkers sincer 1.12 , any decent early weapons? (katana has very low dmg or i did something wrong)

[wraith pebble]

Several, if you make Compressed Iron using an explosion and then blast it un a furnace you get steel which can make some pretty good gear, other than that if you have a music disk you can get an extra upgrade slot

[toxic grove]

i got steel now what

any good use of it

[wraith pebble]

blades, plates for armor especially as steel amplifies the defensiveness, do you know anything about the botania mod?

[toxic grove]

not that much sadly

[wraith pebble]

well you can use mana steel to make it so your armor and gear repairs itself on its own, and its dirt cheap to make

[toxic grove]

i have 2 pieces ,cuz i found mana steel , i got pants and chestplate now what

what do i combine it with

[wraith pebble]

You can melt it down in a smeltery to make armor, of even tool rods for tinkers stuff. I personally reccomend steel armor with mana plates to make some decent armor

beyond that make a bunch of corails graves to start gathering spirits, the enchanting you can do with it make it worthwhile to start getting spirits accumulating early

[wraith pebble]

what mods would you say you are most familier with?

[toxic grove]

emojigg_hmm

none

i know pvp tho

[toxic grove]

steel plating?

and combine it with the manasteel large plate?

[wraith pebble]

yes, tinkers armor requires plates and armor bases, so you can combine materials when making them, you can find more info from the books in the mod itself

[wraith pebble]

yes, because if you have a way to make mana using a ring of aura, and a ring of mana it will fix itself over time

[wraith pebble]

then I reccomend looking into a variety of mods, but a big one would be ars nouvea. Especially drygmys as a drygmy farm can help with things like iron, redstone, and even irons spells ink farms

[toxic grove]

anyone has parts i can usee for a decent weapon with some attack speed early before nether
(i have only brass katana rn )

[wraith pebble]

Parts won't do much for that, amethist increases swing speed

[toxic grove]

yes but i still need to make a higher dmg one

mine has 5

[wraith pebble]

then replace the blade, Steel is a good upgrade, or if you have already cleared the wave to make the portal, things like blaze netherite is better

[manic turtle]

how do you get tyhe bizz stuff on here like im killing them is that not what im ment to do?

[hasty valve]

You have to pulverize their drop into dust and combine it with Enderium ingots in an alloy smelter to get Blizz enderium

A better way to collect their drops however is to set up a basic drygmy farm

[manic turtle]

Thank you

[meager fjord]

what does the modifer worktable do and how does it work

[wraith pebble]

I think it details your modifiers and what they do in an easy to see way

[chilly ibex]

no, it just lets you remove modifiers

[wraith pebble]

ah

[meager fjord]

just for removing?

uh some wiki where i can see what modifier i can put on my armor ?

[chilly ibex]

pretty sure

[chilly ibex]

also the tinker spreadsheet

[meager fjord]

huh

[meager fjord]

[chilly ibex]

stop pinging

use JEI

[meager fjord]

[manic turtle]

where can i find this?

[chilly ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/satox-check-pins-gif-15132658171494998908

[eager mantle]

do more levels of firey increase the chance of setting target on fire?

[toxic grove]

whats after steel armor?

[hasty valve]

I think it increases the damage and duration of the fire. The chance is always 100% unless immune

[hasty valve]

Nether access perhaps, then you can make blaze netherite armor

[toxic grove]

great that , ty

[blissful fog]

hi! for normal mode, is there a recommended armor, weapon n pickaxe that can be used til nether? thx

[hasty valve]

The link in the pinned message will take you to a spreadsheet which has a recommended build for armor and hammer pre nether, you could work towards that.

For weapon I think the blade of blahaj is pretty decent and takes minimal efforts

[blissful fog]

do u know where to get the blade of blahaj? i’ll look into the tinker’s document. ty!!

[hasty valve]

I dont remember the exact recipe but if you search it in jei it should show up. Just toss all the required ingredients on the ground and cause an explosion next to it

[lament yew]

Is dragonsteel a good armor material or is there better plate available?

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel is as far as most will go

[lament yew]

Gotcha

How is it better?

Oh and is blaze netherite sufficient to fight the ender dragon

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel is basically the best overall material in the game rn

[lament yew]

Because of the traits? I didn’t want to read them all. What is a good maile? Blizz enderium again?

[river crown]

Acs is also a good maille since it has the traits of all of its components including blizz enderium. For chest maille use protocite instead though since it gives complete debuff immunity in any slot and attack speed and something else I don't remember in the chest slot

[chilly ibex]

protocite is endgame

[river crown]

So is acs

And protocite isn't end locked

[chilly ibex]

lot more effort for protocite

[blissful fog]

hello guysss i made full steel armor, put 1 emerald n 1 diamond in it but how do i get revitalizing early game ?

i never messed w tinker before so i’m rlly confused

[wraith pebble]

you need jeweled apples and an open defense slot in your armor