#Tinkers Post - Please put your favorite combos here

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twin shard
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rocky stump
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punji spikes are what you're probably looking for

silent terrace
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Negative. It also provides piercing, increasing base damage slightly and adds armor negation

twin shard
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Densium doesnt seem too bad to make....

rocky stump
silent terrace
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Since when? Did we just get an update?

rocky stump
twin shard
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im guessing all 3 levels of piercing on both daggers though

silent terrace
rocky stump
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getting to fission is one thing

twin shard
twin shard
silent terrace
twin shard
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never really used daggers, dont know upgrade wise what to do

twin shard
rocky stump
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sourcing a bajillion uranium and setting up a large enough fission reactor to produce plutonium at a sufficient speed that you're not waiting for days to get antimatter pellets is another

rocky stump
twin shard
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now to go find iridium in the end

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any tips or

rocky stump
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ars scry for it

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or digimine it

silent terrace
rocky stump
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yeah, you're on the old version

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silent terrace
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WHEN DID THAT DROP

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Oh I'm so mad XD Thank you for letting me know tho

twin shard
rocky stump
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I mean, it's not too bad to just get one

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they're rare but not that rare, not as bad as enderium

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just dig around on any end island that isn't the main one

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you're bound to chance upon one

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I dug straight through a couple while tunnelling around for my first enderium shard

twin shard
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I just realized I can just do digi mod ID filter "tinkers_advanced" and that works

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oh lol, 105 here (between iridium and enderium)

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thanks for the help

twin shard
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Should I upgrade each dagger individually? Or should I go for max piece and sharpness and just say nah on extra speed

chilly ibex
twin shard
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urban drift
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How can I make it attack faster?

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wind flower
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acs for ion chamber? or what

wind flower
misty drift
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its a +20% boost and a +40% boost iirc

mellow mason
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also, iron's buff stacking

rocky stump
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Does a larger smeltery consume fuel at a faster rate

whole elm
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no

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just allows you to smelt more

rocky stump
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what happens if I have 2 fuel tanks attached to a single smeltery, one containing say, lava, and the other, blazing blood

whole elm
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nothing, it only uses the first one you attach, the other one is ignored

pulsar lodge
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fuel is spent quicker by a larger smeltery

whole elm
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oh well rip me

stuck wadi
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whats the best way to find a slime island?

whole elm
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explore

stuck wadi
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-_-

uneven plume
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Anyone have any decent Ionized Cannon builds for pre-nether or early-nether?

wind flower
silk anchor
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im a little confused on how global traveler works i just gota matter maniuplator and im trying to mine for osmium redstone and urainium and everythingi mine is just getting voided as far as i can tell i am binding it to a chest

chilly ibex
stuck wadi
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i just got into the nether. what should i be making armor out of at this point?

uneven plume
whole elm
silk anchor
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Oh ok how do I add fluid do I use it like a bucket?

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Is there a book in the game to guide me on them

whole elm
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yes it acts like a bucket - you can right click any compatible liquid (recommend lava)

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there isn't a book for them unfortunately, its a bit confusing

silk anchor
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Ok I’ll give it try tomorrow thank you

stuck wadi
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anybody got cool ideas for a foundry setup?

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im upgrading from the smeltery and want some examples

urban drift
rocky stump
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foundry gives side products you need, smeltery gives more of the original product, and allows for alloying

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as for the setup it should be near identical to a smeltery

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just have auto casting into basins setup, pipe the excess from basins into an ingot table so you don't have to do math out the ore you want to process

stuck wadi
stuck wadi
rocky stump
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I can show you my setup but it won't be helpful

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because all the wiring is hidden

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the right smeltery is an auto blazing blood generator that is pumping blazing blood into the fuel tank on the right

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right floor chest inputs ore into the smeltery
right lever pumps liquid in the smeltery into the basins and the table
all basins configured to pump their liquids to the ingot table to process the leftover liquid that can't form blocks
left lever turns on the drain for the table only for manual processing (tool making)
all processed metals in the basin and the table auto pipe to the floor chest on the left

stuck wadi
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You’re right that wasn’t helpful

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But it is cool

rocky stump
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exactly

stuck wadi
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And it’s something to work toward lol

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I’ll figure this shit out

rocky stump
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what do you need help with with regards to making your smeltery

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you don't need to automate everything

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your first setup can be simple and manual

stuck wadi
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It’s gonna be. But later I plan on making rad shit like yours and I like to learn how to set stuff like that up way before I get to it so I can kinda plan out my builds

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Honestly at this point I still need to figure out what good materials are for armor and weapons

rocky stump
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where are you in the modpack

stuck wadi
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Just got into the nether and really struggling with keeping up armor wise

rocky stump
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blaze netherite is the default recommendation

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blaze netherite plating + blizz enderium maille, max out melee prot

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you should be able to tank all non bosses with that

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as for weapons, manyullyn blade and blizz enderium handle/binding and some other random good materials will work fine for your weapon of choice

stuck wadi
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Gotcha. What about weapons? I’ve got a steel/rose gold cleaver atm but since I’m doing vampirism at the same time I’m curious if the vampire swords are better to get into

rocky stump
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osgloglas is the next upgrade for blades that's really good, but you need to reach the great below for that

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more of a mid-expert thing

stuck wadi
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Great below is my next stop. I really wanna get into mekanism for power generation cause right now I’ve got basically nothing

rocky stump
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don't bother with mek for early power generation

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the beefier power gens from mek are gated way later

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and the mek machines themselves suck up power like a bitch, so you'll want a good early power gen going to fuel mek machines before going down the mek rabbit hole

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for example, the gas burning generator requires ore from space

stuck wadi
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What should I do for early power then? I was considering the lava generators from thermal but pumping through a portal seems annoying

rocky stump
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infinite lava source in the overworld

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pump 10k block of lava into a hole in the overworld, and create will treat it as an infinite source

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pump lava to fuel thermal dynamos

stuck wadi
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Is create the easiest way to get it pumped through?

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That sounds awful

dreamy ore
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putting 100 buckets on the highest layer of a deep 10x10x100 hole was enough for me, i don't think you need to pump all the source blocks yourself

stuck wadi
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Okay that’s way easier

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Scared me lol

rocky stump
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otherwise the lava pump should theoretically start evaporating those source blocks

dreamy ore
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if it doesn't work my pump hasn't realised yet because it's been pumping lava for almost 3 weeks straight now

rocky stump
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fascinating

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all you did was have source blocks up top?

dreamy ore
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yup

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it's been fueling 8 maxed dynamos and 8 normals ones for at least 2 weeks plus a blast chiller for obsidian, so i'm pretty sure it's done well over 10k buckets by now

past drift
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doesn't have to be source blocks, yes

runic nexus
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Does the dual wield modifier even work on cleavers?

tall oriole
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what is the best pre end armor?

wind flower
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as the combat mod perma defines it as two hander

wicked rock
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I just went to put Harmonious on my Matter Manipulator and looking at the preview it looks like the Fluid Drain moves from 100% x 1mB to 50% x 1mB with that upgrade and the Attack Range changes as well (18-42)

Isn't it just supposed to add an upgrade slot?

(After applying the upgrade, it seems like the fluid drain doesn't actually change, so maybe a visual glitch?)

pulsar lodge
paper pagoda
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Hey guys, any ideas on what to do with unused Swashers?

tulip bear
# tall oriole what is the best pre end armor?

I used ignis armor, was pretty good tbh
Before that the promethium stuff or the two reptile pieces + some random tinkers armor (think I used manyllium or something)
If you have ars progressed, you can also do that and use a reactive -> touch -> heal combination to be at max life all the time unless 1-shotted Okay

twin shard
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keep in mind, if you do the last one with ars, heal doesnt work if you are a lich

whole elm
tulip bear
scenic tiger
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are tier 3 materials in general better than diamond gear? I'm looking at slimesteel and the armor stats are slightly worse. Am I missing something? Is it the addons?

pulsar lodge
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the tier doesn't have much bearing on the stats

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it's more about the acessibility of the material, or what tier of setup/progression you need to make it

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tier 1 is basically stuff that can be found just by exploring, and doesn't require any processing

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tier 2 is usually where early metals and other things that require melting are at

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tier 3 is where more alloys get introduced

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and tier 4 is generally everything beyond, that requires nether materials and the like

scenic tiger
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oh ok

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I guess I can just try to experiment with it and see what I can make and compare it to diamond stuff

mighty lintel
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Can I search for a specific enchantment in the ME terminal? When I type in Mending, I dont find anything

past drift
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but you shouldn't put enchantments or enchanted items in the ME system anyway (well at least not on cells)

mighty lintel
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Why should I not doo that?

past drift
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because it's horribly inefficient

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disenchant the items and store the enchantments in the enchantment library

mighty lintel
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Noted

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#mending worked though! thank you (and thanks for the tip)

past drift
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# is for searching tooltips, good to know it works for enchantments, wasn't sure

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you can also do like #eaten for food you haven't tasted yet (because the tooltips reads like "not yet eaten" or something)

dreamy ore
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the same markers that work in JEI will work in most modern storage mods
# to search tooltip text, @ for mod names and i believe there's a couple others like one for tags but i don't remember the syntax

past drift
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$tag (like for example $food might show all foods or something. I basically never use the tag search)

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I think the backpack search explains all them

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note that the chest search doesn't work like that sadly which is annoying

mighty lintel
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Thats very good to know :D

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Thank you :)
And another question: Can you remove abilities from tinkers construct tools?

past drift
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modifiers? yes, usejei , but basically you have to... use a sponge and a specific slime crystal

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it's a bit weird, but should be possible

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the book(s) might explain it too

mighty lintel
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Couldnt find it, but maybe ill just need to look better :D

mighty lintel
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Is there a way to find the ancient city? all the dep darks I have found were tiny

twin shard
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you just gotta keep trying

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once cave mode is back, itll be easier

past drift
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and to add to that (though no idea why this is all in a tinkers post) is there an easier way for deep darks than to sneak around? it's pretty annoying

twin shard
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isnt there a tinkers modifier for swift sneak? Still would have to swift though

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or just dont care about wardens

past drift
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from what I've seen that darkness effect is pretty hindering

dreamy ore
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only had to do it once, but using something like the levitation belt from ars will let you float around undetected, you can then get rid of the shriekers and be fine

short olive
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does unbreaking lower the amount of power the mm uses for acs tool rod

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?

dreamy ore
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mm doesn't use durability anyway so i don't imagine it would make a difference

short olive
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so only use the left click and not the right click then

dreamy ore
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other way around, only use the right click so it uses the fluid inside to mine

short olive
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right click for me uses power, im guessing i need it to be quelled

dreamy ore
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interesting, i've not used acs on mine so i don't know why it does that for you

short olive
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I haven't updated so i'm able to use acs pre end

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i have azure neodymium particle container ancient hide (im swapping to disintigration once i figure it out) acs handle and osgloglas head

dreamy ore
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acs should only ever use power if durability is meant to go down, so in theory it shouldn't affect mm, might be a weird interaction there
maybe try swapping between modes and see what changes?

past drift
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how do I take tinkers stuff apart? I couldn't figure it out

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there are so many tables and shit

dreamy ore
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the same table that you use to make parts from patterns, but you put the tool where you would usually have the material

past drift
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battle signs aren't craftable? so I can't disassemble them because I can't craft their parts?

dreamy ore
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correct, you might be able to melt them down tho

past drift
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same with the pans actually

whole elm
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just make sure you have enough space in your smeltery otherwise it might not pan out

past drift
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something like that I would expect

dreamy ore
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i usually have blank patterns instead of the gold one but i don't know if that changes anything

past drift
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ah, blanks work

dreamy ore
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wait, as in you can break down pans and signs?

whole elm
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yeah, you can get good early drops if you get lucky too

past drift
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ah finally everything works

dreamy ore
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huge AeHypers
i was under the impression those were smeltery only because you can't craft them

past drift
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densium & blitz lumium

whole elm
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makes you wish there was cursed earth in the pack

past drift
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also I can get aluminum

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and I see no way to get that any normal way in the pack

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which is weird

tulip bear
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What are the current best armor options we have? (excluding meka armor)
I was using dragonsteel + acs but even with protection 1 and revita V on it I got obliterated by enemies for some reason
thinking of doing acs for plate and maille

But which upgrades should I look into? just revita or rather melee reinforcement?

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There sadly isn't too much on the sheet for this

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and the recommended katana is kinda bad in endgame vs like enderium guardian

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(but that's the same for basically all tinkers weapons it seems like, no matter what parts)

runic nexus
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What does the mosquito effect do?

chilly ibex
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don't bother with regular prot modifier

tulip bear
runic nexus
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It costs an upgrade slot for armor

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so maybe it's like life steal?

tulip bear
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what would you use an upgrade slot for then?

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I feel wayyyyy more limited by defence and ability slots

runic nexus
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Oh no, sorry I was talking about the mosquito thingy, defense and ability slots are indeed very low and I am currently not sure what to put in the upgrade slots since there's too many :)

tulip bear
runic nexus
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Is health good for the defense slots or just melee prot?

tulip bear
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I feel like just melee protection

short olive
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how do i get the densium off this ;-;

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runic nexus
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what mail is good? I am currently at ice dragonsteel and I feel like the 10% resistance from pweter is pretty decent

tulip bear
tulip bear
runic nexus
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what's acs?

tulip bear
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activated chromatic steel

runic nexus
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Oh, I'm pre nether still

tulip bear
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then honestly just anything steel

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steel is pretty good even post-nether

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or mana steel from chest loot

short olive
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it seems to work up here why is it not working for me

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sad times

runic nexus
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and then only for the maille or full steel?

last lintel
last lintel
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uhh

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dunno

short olive
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i am playing on a past version so acs isnt end gated

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maybe tinkers update allowed it?

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idk

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cause tool recycling seems to work for my matter manipulator

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just not this pan

runic nexus
pulsar lodge
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ancient tools are only scrappable more recently

tulip bear
runic nexus
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But the melee prot only stacks to 80% so at 10 upgrades

tulip bear
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oh true mb, yeah you can go revita then

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or magic protection against some annyoing stuff

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potentially even projectile defence

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but revita will prbly give better defence at that point if you have leech somewhere

runic nexus
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Thanks

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What about ability slot? Because I think protection doesn't stack with the other types

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Does anyone know how the protection works?
Because it says it's capped at 80% and so I was wondering what protections I need when I have the following:
Vital Protection on all parts (40% resistance total)
Protection on all parts (20% resistance total)
Can I now only have 20% melee protection or does the stuff from Vital Protection not count?

chilly ibex
whole elm
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Revitalized is a defense slot

chilly ibex
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but you can exchange ability slots for upgrade slots which are...equally as useless

whole elm
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there's one that increases the max protection by 5% but yeah I dont think its super worth it

zinc osprey
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Just made this after gettin to the nether, needed something to farm Blaze/Wither heads.

Not VERY good at tinkers but im pretty proud of it, any tips/pointers would do me wonders honestly.

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tulip bear
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Okay, so from my testing, this is what I'm using right now & wanted to share my findings (also so it can be searched as I see so many questions here on repeat without any (conclusive) answer):

For Armor (Tinker's)

  • Activated Chromatic Steel (both parts, you may change the plate but it's a lot worse feeling imo; ACS is the best maille part)

  • pre-End, you may just use Dragonsteel for both, if that's too hard, use Hepatizon, Refined Obsidian, Osmium, Manyllium, Blaze Netherite or Bismuth depending on your taste - they are all kind of equally good as bosses just hit so hard, so just craft what you can repair and produce the best and feels good

  • As for Upgrades: I used Protection 1 for the ability slot (not really needed tbh), then a total of 10 Melee protection upgrades (caps out at 80%); you may use less if you already have some melee protection somewhere; then fill remaining defence slots with Revitalizing

  • Other Armor options would be Promethium from Nether as a drop or craft Ignis armor; other cataclysm armor is fine as well tho

As for Tinkers weapons

  • Katanas are decent, as are Cleavers - mostly depends on your playstyle; Katanas offer a bit more defence, where Cleavers will ive you more heads and often better bossing dps because of how armor works against big hits

  • pre-nether just use full invar + 1 emerald; that should kill mostly anything

  • post-nether tools should be made out of hepatizon and/or Manyllium for weapons (Osgloglas or Blaze Netherite are also options here)

  • Again: it doesn't really matter too much here if you use like bronze/copper/brass handles or whatever for the most part, just slap a diamond and emerald on most things and you should be good for the most part. On weapons focus on whatever you can upgrade

  • Weapons usually want Piercing (Punji Sticks) against bosses or Sharpness (Quartz) against most monsters. Swiftstrike however is really quite good tbh and mostly yields the best non-boss dps (again bc of armor higher hits are far better for those); diamonds are nice, but not better than piercing/swift

  • once you are in the end swap to the katana in the sheet, it's honestly pretty good - still sucks against bosses tho

__As for Electron Tuners: __ They are just bad/buggy for the most part.

HOWEVER: Their damage against anything that's not a boss however is completely off the charts.

  • I used Densium blade + activated chromatic steel flux core + volatic crystal handles; set to empower, use desolate dagger upgrade and/or necklace and watch everything melt like crazy; it's better than anything I tried - except for bosses yet again where it really doesn't shine much as most weapons
  • it has no BC animations if that puts you off
  • try to focus on a good core, it carries most of the dmg; the blade and other part are mostly used for traits or % increased to dmg/speed
  • the energy cost is quite los to non-existant, so don't be bothered too much by it
  • I set mine to cleaver thanks to the voltaic handles, it just deals the best dps; cannot really say much more to parts7materials pre-end tho
  • The slots in the weapon to the right ( in the shift right-click menu) are mostly irrelevant as of now, they are fuel slots

Notable Mentions:

  • Ars Magic is busted tbh and should not be ignored/underestimated, this mod is nutty all over the place
  • Botania offers easy and quick 20 to 40% dr + regen effects, mod can be annoying but is great power
  • Create Shotgun or the imo op Gatling Gun are pretty pog and not too expensive; you can trivialize most bosses with those, especially low-armor targets just melt away to the gatling, it's crazy (killed the void plant in like 3 seconds omegalul )
    -> enchant gatling with Trigger Fire, Accelerator & Reclaimed; enchant shotgun with Accelerator, Over Capacity and Reclaimed

I'll append this post with more stuff if I have corrections or additions; I will not keep it updated 24/7 tho Okay

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You can pin this if you want to Okay

zinc osprey
dreamy ore
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with a bit of work you can make a tool to carve out big areas of the nether, whether that is an ars crossbow, fancy pick from botania or matter manipulator from tinkers, then you just go down to 15 and start deleting the nether

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make sure you check JEI for the best way to process ancient debris accessible to you

tulip bear
past drift
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or just link #1392264625940332738 directly

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with ancient debris the data is not that precise, because it's so rare

tulip bear
past drift
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the trick for ancient debris is the Ars scrying ritual

dreamy ore
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in my experience all layers feel about the same, it's just a difference of being out in the open and how much lava is around

past drift
zinc osprey
zinc osprey
tulip bear
dreamy ore
chilly ibex
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that's the basic idea

past drift
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everyone telling me ichor is the solution when an ichor crystal costs more blazing blood to melt than it actually produces 🙄

pulsar lodge
past drift
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does the smeltery use less fuel to melt more at the same time?

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because I always thought it calculates per item

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ah I think I see how it works

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wild, never noticed that, but of course lava was always cheap

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man I should have automated my smeltery in some way, the looping of blaze blood and such is getting on my nerves

whole elm
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time to curse past you

past drift
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well I didn't think it would become so complicated

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past tinkers was different

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for ichor I need silk touch on the annihilation plane like for amethyst, right?

whole elm
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yup

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cause you specifically want the largest one

past drift
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I think it's actually a bit easier than with amethyst

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because you can just melt the crystal instead of the smaller ones you would get with pickaxe or similar

wind flower
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super easy to make automatic

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(ignore soul in my smeltery)

whole elm
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I'm more interested in the random flux plug hooked up to nothing

wind flower
whole elm
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never

rocky stump
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I just have an entirely separate small smeltery dedicated to melting ichor

rocky stump
wind flower
rocky stump
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A bit annoying if your ichor supplies run dry/your reservoir fills up with blazing blood, and you end up in a permanent loop of consuming more blazing blood to melt one ichor

wind flower
rocky stump
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But once you have like, 3000 buckets of blazing blood stocked up you don't really need to make more

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Yeah, I just let it do whatever the hell it's doing rn

wind flower
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i had that as my power source for awhile but they nerfed it

rocky stump
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My ichor is automatic as well, it's just slow as shit because by automatic I mean a single budding crystal surface with growth accels lol

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All for the sake of fitting it nice and neatly in a small hidden corner

wind flower
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mines just 3 accels+budding

rocky stump
wind flower
# rocky stump

i cant be bothered to auto fill my smeltery considering i constantly have to change fuels around lol

rocky stump
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I just swap out the tank with pyrotheum whenever I need it

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Mek pipe lets you quick swap without fucking up the config, unlike enderio conduits

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Also the pipe is basically an autofiller tank lol, stores like 128 buckets or something

wind flower
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didnt know they buffed travelers armor

chilly ibex
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did they?

wind flower
chilly ibex
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hrrr

abstract crow
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Do I need to put melee protection on my 4 armor pieces?

chilly ibex
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not all of your armor, just up to 40% in total

abstract crow
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So if right now I have 5% on each piece, it’s 20% total

mighty lintel
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I thought 80% in total?

chilly ibex
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i meant 80%

abstract crow
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ahh that makes more sense, thanks!

formal pier
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antimatter main sword, irradium secondary sword, voltaic rod and blizz enderium tough rod. Kachow

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frigid forge
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I’ve just barely made it into the nether and found an osloglas swasher with an iridium handle. Is that pretty good?

whole elm
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I know you listed them but it also helps to know what each one does separately

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because people like to take inspiration but still deviate

formal pier
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If people want to get into tinkers, I think they ought to pick up the books and get reading ;p

whole elm
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yes I agree but at the same time we can still be helpful

chilly ibex
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i've never read the books

formal pier
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gigachad

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I'll just summarize my incentives and thought process for those who want to know if this will be best for them:

formal pier
# formal pier antimatter main sword, irradium secondary sword, voltaic rod and blizz enderium ...

I have a rage glove with incredible stats from before it was nerfed, so I valued attack speed very highly. A katanas two main sword pieces impact the overall stats unevenly (75-25?), so I used the antimatter piece first as it give the highest base melee damage out of any material. Irradium had the second highest base damage out of the four materials I chose, so that went on as the second blade. Irradium inflicts 1sv of radiation per hit, which correlates to a 5% attack bonus, capping out at 75%. The rods of tinkers weapons impact the weapon differently by scaling their melee damage or speed by a flat percentage. I chose voltaic since it gives, by far, the most attack speed% out of any material. Finally, I settled on blizz enderium due to metamorphosis giving a base 25% attack damage and attack speed bonus when maxed, as well as doubling damage to targets who are on fire.. TLDR read the books (fantastic foundry and encyclopedia of tinkering) and make your own decisions on what you find to be best. Some other contenders were densium oractivated chromatic steel.

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every single ability point was turned to upgrades, and the upgrades are pretty standard dps options. I have 2 leftover after getting every single slotless free upgrade/ability slots which I am debating using on quarky which can increase damage by 40% when optimized

chilly ibex
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do the stats not change if it was changed from the configs?

thin owl
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I know this isn't strictly what this channel is for, but I'm looking for some help leveling up my cleaver game. Ideally I'd keep at least one nahuatl part because a)it's such a cool material and b) it ties into the name of the sword but anything else is open to change

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I'm post ender dragon, so theoretically nothing is off limits

whole elm
chilly ibex
chilly ibex
thin owl
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I eventually plan to go for ACS but I need to hunt down a blizz to farm first

chilly ibex
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osgloglas is good for the blade part

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ACS is good for handle or something

thin owl
chilly ibex
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manyullyn is good for early nether but meh

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post-end it's pretty bad...

thin owl
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gotcha, oggy gloggy it is

muted coyote
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this has def been asked already, but what is a good pre-nether pick?

chilly ibex
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if you'd rather find it yourself, we got a spreadsheet with part stats for each difficulty mode in the pinned messages

muted coyote
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will def give it a look. mind pointing me in the right direction for now lol

chilly ibex
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look in pinned messages and if you still need help, just ask

zinc osprey
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Do the plates for a sledgehammer fall under "Misc" on the table. For example if I add a cobalt plate to my Sledgehammer it'll only add the "lightweight" effect and nothing else of note?

past drift
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no, they are part of the head

dreamy ore
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noob question: how is the repair material determined?
is it always the head? if so how does it work if the head has multiple components (like with the hammer) ?

past drift
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I never tested it but I wouldn't be surprised if you can use all the materials that are part of the head. it would make sense

dreamy ore
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huge, ty AeHypers
i keep forgetting to test it out when i'm in a world where i can afford wasting resources and it only comes to mind when making early tools xD

past drift
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I basically always make the whole head out of the same stuff. I don't see why mixing would make sense. like... when I have a fast material with high durability... why would I NOT make the whole head out of it. doesn't make sense. the only reason would be to have more different traits, but only if those are more worth it than the speed or the dura.
and with how some traits stack even having more traits but all lvl 1 instead of one good high level trait would not be worth it

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add to that that the % calc from different head parts is hidden and confusing it's even more annoying

dreamy ore
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the only real reason i care is super early i can't be bothered keeping a stock of things like bronze or other mats that need any amount of work just to repair my tools, so i like having stone in the head and just using modifiers to improve stats

past drift
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yeah that one I can see, I had to repair my bronze hammer all the time

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always like a whole block of bronze when it was broken again, that's pretty expensive for early game

dreamy ore
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i had a stone hammer i slowly upgraded for the first (ongoing) world, but if adding metal plates and or handles is possible without losing on stone as an option to repair that would add a lot more life to it

past drift
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if you put the mana trait from manasteel on tools you can repair them with mana (Botania) which is very useful
and manasteel is not bad for armor anyway pre nether

dreamy ore
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rather than try switch asap

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for that i'd need to stop being afraid of botania and actually get into the mod KEK
but ye will look into how it actually works later, ty again AeHypers

past drift
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it's very early Botania, pretty easy

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helps to have a tree farm for charcoal though for the endoflame automation

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then with a ring you can even carry the mana with you in a curio slot so stuff gets passively repaired

simple cedar
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what modifiers should i use for a early ion cannon?

rocky stump
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the usual

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swiftstrike, sharp, netherite

winged mango
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whats the BiS armor pre nether?

rocky stump
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Not tinkers

uneven plume
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Soo.. how do we make Blaze Netherite?? Neither JEI nor the tinkers books or quest book even show you how to make it.

past drift
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they do (JEI)

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pour blazing blood on netherite ingots

uneven plume
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thanks, must've missed it, even Google didn't really have info on it. lol

river crown
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I'm planning a matter manipulator, I'm thinking hepatazion except for disintegration crystal collar wjhat do you guys think?

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chilly ibex
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osgloglas would be better instead of hepatizon

river crown
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oh osgloglas is easier than I thought

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ty

stuck wadi
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how do i make blizz enderium?

vague shuttle
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Anyone got a good fortune vein mining pickaxe

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using protocite

chilly ibex
chilly ibex
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vein hammer is good as well

vague shuttle
chilly ibex
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use a tinker's anvil dude

abstract crow
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Would you mind saying what parts you used?

vague shuttle
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Surely making the entire hammer out of protocite sounds weird

mellow mason
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It all depends whether there's anything else at all that's worth losing fortune three on any part (there isn't, except maybe disintegration crystal + unbreakable idk)

stuck wadi
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i just made blaze netherite plating + blizz enderium maille armor, any suggestions for modifiers and upgrades?

chilly ibex
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80% melee protection in total
Reinforcement isn't a bad idea either
Revitalized is pretty required

neat cedar
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not even the strongest melee anyway

dreamy ore
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is there any reason to go for cleaver or katana when you can dual wield swords?
even with the dps being a bit lower wouldn't it still end up edging out the alternatives since you can have two?

fickle barn
dreamy ore
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no idea, haven't tried

abstract crow
neat cedar
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you'll actually make a stronger weapon since extra dense is broken

abstract crow
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im not sure I get what you mean

dreamy ore
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replace the part made with chromatic steel with osglo instead, you'll get an additional level of the modifier from osglo

chilly ibex
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osgloglas isn't worth stacking, and chromatic steel is always worth having

rocky stump
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Osgloglas is 100% worth stacking, and ACS is worth having but the whole point of this conversation is that he can't get ACS

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Since ACS is now, well, post end

chilly ibex
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ah, see i just got here so idk the whole conversation and i'm too lazy to read

neat cedar
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the main reason you want an ACS handle is due to its 20% stat modifier across the board and it's two passives. One allowing it to store and use RF as durability (repairing is terrible). The second giving it two modes(activated and empowered) which really don't matter aside from getting a decent ranged option. you lose a lot of dps from empowered and activated doesn't do anything iirc

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but as a replacement until you can access ACS, osloglas has good handle modifiers AND extra dense which turns a cleaver w/ 2 pieces to one with 3 boosting stats by 60% instead of 40%

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in total you can hit almost double stats w/ metamorphium thrown into the mix

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truthfully full osloglas is not terrible you are only missing 5% unless the math doesn't math and metamorphium applies after the 60% buffed tool stats which is a WHOLE nother can of worms

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base stat of 10 applying a 85% boost would be 18.5

and base stat of 10 applying a 60% boost would be 16 with an additional 25% would be 20 flat which is a considerable increase.

abstract crow
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So do I do 3 osgloglas handles/blade + blizz enderium tough plate?

rocky stump
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osgloglas max stacks is 2 last I checked

brisk flume
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is there a way to get molten diamond pre-nether? for revitalizing

whole elm
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pre nether? no possibly but you need blazing blood and pre nether thats super tedious

dreamy ore
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what does diamond need to melt again? blazing blood?

whole elm
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yea

dreamy ore
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you can use an occultism ritual to get a couple blazes and throw them into your smeltery

brisk flume
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alright, its a no then, all good

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mm

thick nacelle
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It's a maybe depending on how much time you got

brisk flume
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and what about a good pickaxe pre nether?

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blazing blood can come later

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i dont mind

thick nacelle
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put your resources into ars, it's way better than a pickaxe

rocky stump
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tinkers is still good for fortune

brisk flume
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yeah, i was mainly following the spreadsheet, just crafted steel armor with tinkers

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wanted a good pickaxe, or similar, with fortune

thick nacelle
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ars you can put luck on a spell and get fortune 4

brisk flume
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oh

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is that pre nether friendly?

thick nacelle
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ars is gated with overworld options first, then nether stuff, then end stuff. It's gated 3 times, but you can get fairly deep into it in the overworld only

brisk flume
vague shuttle
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welp why not

vague shuttle
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Got this, any tips on what i should put on?

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Getting draconic and curiosity as well

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Idk does luckiest work with this?

abstract crow
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There’s a tinkers book that explains all the materials, upgrade and abilities and on what piece they can go

chilly ibex
vague shuttle
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Ait

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I just did unbreakable and will put luckiest ig

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then for last idk actually

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mining speed or smth

chilly ibex
vague shuttle
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but I got tree maxed (if that does anything)

chilly ibex
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I mean it should

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If it didn't, we'd have an issue...

vague shuttle
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When I updated to newest version i couldnt instabreak blocks anymore

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intentional, or bug I have no idea 🤷‍♂️

stuck wadi
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what are the best rings to make?

chilly ibex
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rings suck

stuck wadi
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aw :(

chilly ibex
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just use iron spells rings like poison resist or somethin

whole elm
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the problem is they have poor durability and no good way to make it usable in any real sense

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they're ok early on for an extra source of fortune but even still

stuck wadi
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i see

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thats a shame its really cool you can amke em

chilly ibex
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they need more modifier slots or something....

@pulsar lodge could this be a potential buff to make tinker's rings decently usable?

pulsar lodge
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as it stands right now you can wear several

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i've also not personally tinkered with them

stuck wadi
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the lack of modifier slots is something i noticed

pulsar lodge
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but one idea adam has is for curio accessories to not be individually powerful

stuck wadi
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mostly because most modifier upgrades dont work on them

chilly ibex
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the ring stats are DECENT but the overall rings aren't usable because of the low durability

past drift
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increase durability by factor 10 and we're talking

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and even then I'm not sure they're worth it

chilly ibex
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how do you even repair them

whole elm
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you put the base material with the ring inside a tinkers anvil just like other gear

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I can't remember if you can use a repair kit on them

chilly ibex
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Hmm

real knoll
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has anyone else made a tinker's shield with two levels of boundless and extra acs?
As I was just testing my armor modes and it was dropping the melee damage from a braniac from like 20 hearts to nearly half a heart just by holding it in my offhand

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ok, actually closer to 1.5 hearts, but still

chilly ibex
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i've never seen anyone make a tinker's shield

real knoll
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huh, it even partially functions when you're holding a two handed weapon
drops the damage by like halfish still, to around 10ish hearts vs 20

past drift
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what does metamorphium trait (from blizz enderium) do exactly? I hate the unhelpful ingame descriptions

rocky stump
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It starts out doing nothing, but as the piece/tool takes damage (durability or power), the percentage ticks up, and buffs those stats

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Maxes out at 25% per level

past drift
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omg that seems pretty strong

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man, since my armor isn't manasteel anymore I notice how much durability damage it takes all the time, really annoying

rocky stump
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It is, which is why it's been on most of my reccs

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But the multiplier stacks additively with some other percentage buffs iirc

past drift
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can I set myself permanently on fire somehow so I don't have to wait afk until my armor is repaired all the time? ratlaugh

rocky stump
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The solution is to get mending elsewhere, probably

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Try the novice upgrade

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I haven't used it myself, but hearsay it naturally repairs over time with ars magic

past drift
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so sad that the reinforement/unbreaking isn't worth it

rocky stump
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Yeah, way too much investment

past drift
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the contents of the smeltery are technically saved in the controller, right? so I can rebuild parts of the smeltery and when it's back being a working smeltery the previous contents will still be there, right?

rocky stump
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yes

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well, yes and no

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the smeltery will retain the materials so long as you don't break the controller

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but as soon as you break it everything inside is lost

past drift
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yeah that was what I meant, I wasn't clear enough: don't touch the controller, but I can add drains, remove drains, make it bigger etc.

rocky stump
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yes then, so long as the physical controller block remains in the world

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it will save the contents, you can break and dismantle the smeltery around it

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the moment the smeltery reforms the melted stuff will reappear

chilly ibex
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you may be able to use a cardboard box to move it

neat cedar
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imo archmage armor is probably your best bet until post end, ars makes sure very few bosses can kill you in terms of mobility

simple cedar
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what should i make my first matter manipulator out of?

chilly ibex
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i wouldn't recommend matter manipulator til like, late expert

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but uh, osgloglas and cobalt are decent materials

simple cedar
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well damn, i already got the stuff needed for it so im just gonna go ahead with it

river crown
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for the collar make it out of disintegration crystal

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I did osgloglas for the other parts

simple cedar
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yea, im not to osgloglas yet so i just did heptizon

river crown
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that's also decent

chilly ibex
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hepatizon is good enough

woeful relic
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I have a question: How do you make Steel in Tinkers?

pulsar lodge
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but there's other ways to get it in this pack, usually making the Dust or Ingot

woeful relic
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Ohhh so I would need Cobalt

fickle barn
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Does take a decent bit of coal and time tho

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Takes like 40s for a compressed iron to smelt into steel

woeful relic
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Then you put the steel in the smeltery to make armor?>

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thanks guys! It smelted 🙂

rocky stump
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Is there anyone on a MCE2 server with a matter manipulator with a disintegrate collar

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Need you to test something

twin shard
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I could make one if needed

rocky stump
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on the server, try shooting the laser in 3x3 mode, then hold left click to break a decent number of blocks manually before shooting the laser again

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the intented outcome you should see, is that as you hold left click to break the blocks, your mining speed steadily increases

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and the next time you fire the laser it should be evaporating blocks at a much faster speed than before

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Tested and it works on single player, but not on the server I'm playing on

twin shard
rocky stump
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nothing specific needed other than the disintegrate collar

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if you want to make the identical MM as mine, it's an osgloglas pick head and protocite particle container + protocite handle

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but it's not needed

twin shard
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its gonna take me a second to make anything, so ill get back to you as soon as I can

rocky stump
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alright, thanks a lot for this

twin shard
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Nearly done... just caused another radiation leak in my base lol

twin shard
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it doesnt seem to be working....

rocky stump
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that explains a ton then

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if you want, you can do the exact same thing in single player, and it should work

simple cedar
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what modifiers should i put on my armor

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i have 80% melee reduction

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anything else?

last lintel
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revitalizing is always good

reef sapphire
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is the best-so-far melee weapon the katana in the tinker material spreadsheet? or is there something better to be spending this densium on?

last lintel
chilly ibex
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katana will definitely be number 1 after the buffs

wind flower
chilly ibex
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oh yea, those exist

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i've hardly seen anyone use the tuner, only a few for ion cannon

wind flower
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tuner broken af on the high end

reef sapphire
wind flower
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ice core looks cool tho

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real knoll
thin owl
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is dragonsteel plating/acs maille better, or vice versa

wind flower
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dragonsteel maille is near useless

chilly ibex
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i'd say dragonsteel plating/acs maille is best combo still

mellow mason
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again, it's just acs acs

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no reason to use anything else

river crown
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am I correct in assuming iridium is only from the end?

wind flower
wind flower
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vs dragonsteel plate

mellow mason
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when all empowered you should take nothing from anything

wind flower
chilly ibex
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only bosses would do any amount of damage

mellow mason
wind flower
proud osprey
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How do you get luckiest and unbreakable on it? Cant figure it out.

chilly ibex
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not that hard to figure out..

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i don't really have any other modifiers on my vein hammer except unbreakable and luckiest

proud osprey
chilly ibex
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i know you've been here long enough to know about our spreadsheet

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@whole elm yo is the matter manip setup in the spreadsheet yours that was added to the community tab?

whole elm
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if it was it wasn't me who put it there

chilly ibex
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i know you didn't put it there, was just wondering

dreamy ore
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any mod recommendations for armor going into the end?
just made a dragonsteel/acs set, will be putting melee prot and revitalized but not sure if there's anything else of note i should be adding

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also does melee prot give 8% or 10% per level? i know it caps at 80% but don't know if it's lvl 8 or 10 i should be going for

past drift
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pretty sure it's mentioned ingame. it's 8% afaik

fickle barn
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Blazing netherite plate + enderium mail any good?

chilly ibex
dreamy ore
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i am but i've been procrastinating for a LONG time AePointLaugh
i had the mailles made before the patch

chilly ibex
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makes sense

dreamy ore
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is crocodile only supported for certain items? i can't seem to be able to put it on my armor

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on the helmet specifically

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it seems to only go on the chestpiece

past drift
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same as with some other modifiers that only go on certain pieces, yes

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and fun fact: that modifier is bugged in the way that if you put it on, wear it once, and then stop wearing the piece you keep the armor bonus (but not the swimming bonus)

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and another fun fact: I fixed that bug myself, but I feel like the mod devs don't look at their repo at all so it probably will never get fixed and that annoys me very much

dreamy ore
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tbf it's an addon mod no? i imagine most of the focus would be somewhere else first

past drift
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that's not related to the pack

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it's a mod, I was referring to the mod devs, not to Emper or Adam

dreamy ore
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ye i know, i also meant the mod, tinker's tweaks

fickle barn
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Making a laser rifle:

Enderium rod, fluix particle container.
what should i put for the blades? Thinking of atleast 1 w blaze netherite but dunno bout 2nd

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Bismuth for the 20% damage bonus after first shot?

wind flower
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isnt particle container for matter manip?

fickle barn
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Meant ion chamber ^

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But ye u r right particle box is the mining tool ye

wind flower
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i wouldnt do fluix tbh. pretty mid stats

fickle barn
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Dont have access to the other electric materials yet cos now both are end gsted

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So for now just using fluix to save on repair costs

wind flower
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i know you can get voltaic pre end if thats the one you talking bout

fickle barn
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Sounds like some questionable tech

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Atleast cant see any way thru jei

wind flower
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you can find ender propagule in dungeon chests in those giant multi layer dungeons

fickle barn
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Hmmmmm

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Gonna have to keep an eye out for one of those then

dreamy ore
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are mm the only tools that can get to fortune 6?

mellow mason
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but that's not really the most practical thing in the world

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disintegration crystal can go on vein hammers though

dreamy ore
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tbh i was just looking for high fortune to get the first 4 enderium shards xD

fickle barn
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Hmmm i think resonance amplifier is broken rn

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I put amplifier IV on my gun (should have 58 blocks of range) but doesnt seem to hit past the stock 18

whole elm
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enderium ignores fortune iirc

vital crypt
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What would be the best cleaver in the end game?

fickle barn
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I guess charge amplifies the laser gun damage. Charged and one-hit a sea snake for a 274 Floshed

stuck wadi
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what other materials work well with hepatizon for tools?

rocky stump
wind flower
brisk flume
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Need to get that one

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Any idea how to get lots of iron spells?

earnest jay
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What are good stats for a bow?
Do I want draw speed and velocity to be positive or negative?

wind flower
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drawspeed= drawspeed (pull back)
velocity = damage

earnest jay
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Thank you

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Any tips on a pre-End bow?

wind flower
night falcon
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whats the best cleaver and armour i can make now that ive entered master mode?

fickle barn
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Its like a really, REALLY ghetto dead king

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Doesnt give inks

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But does give ok amounts of essence and every now and then a random spell

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Have a squid in a jar too so can use those 2 to make inks myself, although the rate is kinda poor

brisk flume
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I see, seems it's just a bit shit to get the stuff from that mod

past drift
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blaze netherite with those thermal alloys as maille is the poor people's ACS ratlaugh (I am poor people and pretty happy with it for now)

plain drift
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whats some good early game combo for tools pre nether?

frozen parcel
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Throw a necromancer in a jar, and then you can use the cauldron method to try and get inks to upgrade them

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Another good choice is get as much luck as you can and chest hunt

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Distilled potion goes crazy +3 Luck

thin owl
plain drift
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oh okay thanks

timid ginkgo
#

is there a way to get the materials from a swasher? Ive gotten a lightning dragon steel one and i wanna melt it for part lol

past drift
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probably the same way you get parts from every tinkers tool

timid ginkgo
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Hmm maybe i dont have hot enough fuel

past drift
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sadly my comment is not pinned where it's explained in a simple image

timid ginkgo
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I cant build swashers right?

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Is was thinking maybe I can switch out a part

past drift
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this is how you take tinkers stuff apart:
#1391951018404876309 message

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(and I wish some mod would pin that comment)

odd crane
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what are the best modifiers to use for tools/armor? the new selection of them is overwhelming

fickle barn
fickle barn
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as for ranged weapon. honestly probs just magic arrow/harm spell/enchanters bow with infinity + power

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ticon bows r not very great afaik

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nether + warden city gets u access to the ion rifle which gets quite powerful even with just ghetto overworld/nether material combos

wind flower
fickle barn
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ig ye u might be able to get without nether

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not sure if worth the extra effort tho

jade light
#

What can I use to speed up crop growth other than red fertalizer and rats

muted coyote
#

are slime islands just super rare?

past drift
ripe oracle
fickle barn
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surely works again in next update sadge

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floral smelt
#

Wait the cactus modifier is gone? Noooo that one was so good

pulsar lodge
floral smelt
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Idk if it was modpack specific, but it was a modifier that was a retaliation. When I got attacked, it would smack the attacker with my held weapon for me.

pulsar lodge
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that doesn't sound like a thing that has existed

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there's maybe a thorns modifier

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but it definitely does not retaliate with other weapon effects

floral smelt
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Found it, it was called Spiky. Probably just outdated knowledge.

river crown
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I think I saw one for armor that hat a thorns like effect that used cactus as the material to add it

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took like 25 cactus iirc

candid wing
thin owl
fickle barn
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blaze netherite - enderium with ectoplasm polarity trim

past drift
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trims are just decorations, right?

fickle barn
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ye

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polarity just looks REALLY nice

past drift
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and those tinkers trims are basically just their version of vanilla Minecraft trims which are also just visual, right? (they didn't exist the last time I played)

fickle barn
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ye they are identical in function to vanilla trims, purely cosmetic

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(hat legs and boots are polarity, body is eye)

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body looks ok too but bit too much color IMO

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foggy spear
#

What is a good armour and gear setup for going into the end/master mode?

vital crypt
vital crypt
chilly ibex
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manyullyn for a cleaver? it's alright but ehh

brisk flume
#

So I unlocked expert, what would be a good combo for tools and weapons? Checked the spreadsheet but there are no expert community submissions

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I got cobalt

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First new ore I saw

fickle barn
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Blaze netherite-bismuth blades with enderium rod and fluix ion chamber is a pretty banger weapon for honestly pretty low cost

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Once u get to the end u wanna swap the ion chamber to enderium and enderium rod to ACS tho

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Dump the first upgrades into the improved attack speed (something lile swifterstrike ex)

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The range increase upgrade is broken right now and does not actually change the range on either ion gun or the matter manipulator (hopefully fixed soon)

past drift
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my fix for that is in the next (already released) update of tinkers integrations 🥳
also some fix for dragonsteel, I wonder what exactly that means 🤔 (traits not applying or something)

foggy spear
#

What about armour? Is tinker armour better or is there some other armour recommendations?

chilly ibex
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Tinker's is always better

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I'd say the only exception is ignitium with cursium chestplate but that's a lot of work and exploration

keen umbra
#

what makes ignitium better than cursium besides the chestplate, I'm assuming the chestplate just because of the built in once-a-day totem effect

rocky stump
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ignitium has +1 armor across the board per piece

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chestplate is stronger as well, but the chestpiece has an argument with the aforementioned totem

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though depending on your stage in the game, I'd say there's still 0 competition, tinkers armor is simply better

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  • Activated Chromatic Steel is protection on top of protection
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  • +20% Damage, +5 armor on tinkers chestpieces via mods
brisk flume
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thankfully there is armor transmog

keen umbra
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makes sense, although I realize I've been using the cursium mage armor instead of the normal armor since I'm focusing on Iron's a lot, and also mainly because it stacks with the vampire innate armor and doesn't interfere with the movespeed and other abilities that heavy armors normally mess with

rocky stump
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I mean the moment you get prot V on non tinkers armor it stops being bad

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go for it

chilly ibex
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don't do regular prot :/ melee prot + revitalized is more than enough

rocky stump
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read it again properly

chilly ibex
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oh NON tinker's.....prot 5 dreadsteel is meh

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but what is anyone doing wasting dragonsteel for dread

formal pier
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How can I provide fluids to my ionized cannon conveniently? I thought I could use a backpack upgrade somehow but now I'm not seeing it..

rocky stump
formal pier
rocky stump
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it doesn't

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are you asking for something to automatically refill items in your inventory

formal pier
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Also, is the expanded ability upgrade on the ionized cannon not working properly? I added it twice but my range hasn't increased at all

rocky stump
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it's the resonance amplifier that is bugged

formal pier
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Also, is it possible to auto-swing with the cannon? It seems to be more intended for range either way

rocky stump
rocky stump
formal pier
formal pier
rocky stump
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hold left click you mean

formal pier
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well yea

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oh

rocky stump
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that's from the better combat mod, ion cannons don't have better combat animations

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so no

formal pier
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yea lol

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man I mustve forgot how vanilla works. The katana has the auto swing but that's probably cuz it's classified as a sword

rocky stump
rocky stump
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your range does not increase

formal pier
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Gotcha. I imagine they'll get to fixing it so.. I'll just keep expanded on for now

rocky stump
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as in, better combat has special animations specifically for katana in the config, I believe

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they just didn't give it to the ion cannon because well, you're not swinging with it

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same with the bow

formal pier
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Oh you're probably right. The cleaver has different animations but it's also a two handed sword. Love the detail

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Well I have a 4.22as katana and a 4.33as cannon so I wanted to compare their swing speeds but it won't matter since I won't be using the cannon for melee anyways. Most of the time

formal pier
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Metamorphium isn't building on my electron tuner for some reason..

rocky stump
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don't give it power

loud fog
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since ACS isn't obtainable pre-end in the latest version, is the new best armor just a blaze netherite plate with cobalt maille? then full cobalt reinforcement

mighty coral
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What would be the best expert mode armor?

chilly ibex
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also "new best armor" also no

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dragonsteel/ACS is probably still the best unless you wanna stack ACS

river crown
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all blizz enderium not one of each?

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of the Thermal elementall alloys I mena

chilly ibex
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blaze netherite plating, blizz enderium maille

loud fog
chilly ibex
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yea

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blaze netherite is pretty good for armor too

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throw diamond and emerald into the armor plus some melee prot and it's good for a while

trim lily
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whats like a solid armor for expert? I have nether access, thats it rn. Cobalt?

past drift
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blaze netherite

trim lily
misty drift
past drift
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there are other ones that are also not bad

misty drift
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ig cobalt maille for now or bronze maille for 2+ armor toughness per piece

past drift
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for example a mix of all those thermal elemental alloys

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the poor man's ACS

trim lily
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i see lot of cleavers but i really dislike them

past drift
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next patch should have a slight buff to Katanas

trim lily
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whats the go to weapon rn?

chilly ibex
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Cleaver, katana is close 2nd

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Katana will be best next update

trim lily
chilly ibex
trim lily
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also blaze netherite ?

chilly ibex
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blizz enderium for handle, blaze netherite isn't that great for weapons

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just look at the spreadsheet or look at the tinker planner to blueprint it out

trim lily
chilly ibex
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BLIZZ mob

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look at JEI

river crown
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And it's been working reasonably well for taking down eye bosses alongside my dragon and battle god rat

steady crane
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recommended defense modifiers for armor is melee prot and revitalized?

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3 for both or does it go higher

chilly ibex
mellow trail
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hello, kinda new to this mod and i just reached the nether, what should i use for a good hammer

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general use

chilly ibex
brisk flume
fickle barn
steady ermine
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hey question here, what weapon and with what ores should i make in tinkers smelter before reaching the nether? or is it not worth without reaching the nether first. same goes for armor

past drift
meager terrace
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How do i overslime a Tool ?

orchid nimbus
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Is there any value in stacking blizz enderium or is one level of metamorphium good

orchid nimbus
chilly ibex
haughty ocean
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hey how do i extract materials from swashers

past drift
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that link I posted linked literally to the exact post (not just to this thread)

winter garnet
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any recommended expert level weapons with materials?

rocky stump
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Osgloglas
Blizz Enderium

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The surviving members of the former triumvirate

stuck wadi
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does tinkers have the best armor in the pack or is there something better?

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for endgame i mean

rocky stump
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tinkers is the best

trim lily
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Isnt like MekSuit insane due to the energy factor

rocky stump
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meksuit has less utility

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well, actually

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I'll need to see how high it can go

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but generically, nothing in this modpack hits hard enough that tinkers cannot just facetank

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I have yet to test meksuit so I can't say, but a common problem in previous modpacks was that certain attacks bypassed meksuit's weird invuln

short olive
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is it possible to have a diminishing returns like effect? the higher the damage the more the resistance to said damage?

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have like a softcap on damage meaning you can do more but it gets increasingly difficult or something

rocky stump
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you can, but you would have to modify the source code of the mod itself

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it's not just a simple value change in a config file

hollow delta
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mixin time ig 💀

short olive
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if thats possible then I suppose you could go a little further and have a config for it to adjust curves and falloff etc

pulsar lodge
polar pewter
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Is there a way to get more modifiers onto weapons?

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I remember in some other mod pack the more you used a weapon/tool you’d get better with it which made you able to add more modifiers to it. Not sure if it was the same case with this modpack

river crown
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nah that hasn't been a thing in a long time. There are some slotless modifiers that add slots but they're expensive

polar pewter
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So what’s the limit? No way to increase the amount of modifiers?

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Makes sense the modpack I remember it from was pretty old version

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Oh nvm you said spotless modifiers that add slots

fickle barn
# polar pewter Is there a way to get more modifiers onto weapons?

+1 upgrade: Amber (2x) + amber curiosity (3x) [primordial caves]
+1 upgrade: end crystal, music disc, rebalanced(upgrade)
+1 upgrade: thousand-metal ingot (having an anvil fall atleast 1 block above a dropped thousand-metal axe and/or wrought helm) [mowzies mobs]
+1 modifier: crystal fruit (drop from void blossom)
+1 ability: ender dragon head / ender dragon scales (latter is a drop from the dragon/craftable from the head)
+1 ability: 4x singularity + 1x 256k storage component (AE2)
+2 upgrade -1 ability: golden apple

There is an alternative for the AE2 component upgrade for an ability slot using mekanism components (lot more expensive, IDK if they stack together or if its a pick one.)
Mekanism antimatter pellet gives both an ability and upgrade slot too way later down the line.

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For armor pieces theres also a +1 defense slot: telecore + 2x scarlet neodymium block + 2x azure neodymium block [magnetic caves]

polar pewter
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I’m confused when you add a diamond to a tinkers tool for durability. Is that a modifier or an upgrade? I’m at work otherwise I’d be looking myself

fickle barn
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You can add up to 2 different types of rebalance to a tool, the upgrade slot one seems to be able to be freely added, but the ability one acts as a reverse golden apple so u need to have unused upgrade slots to add it

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Theres also a trait rebalane that doubles the effect of one of the traits (idk if theres some formula for which it chooses)

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So for example a tool witl Ductile 1 rebalanced with trait can become a tool with Ductile 2

pulsar lodge
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upgrades are modifiers, but modifiers are not upgrades

polar pewter
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Ugh this tinkers is so confusing I haven’t touched it in forever

pulsar lodge
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modifiers is the blanket term for upgrades, abilities, etc., any slots on a tool you can use to add effects to the tool

fickle barn
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Most tool augments are upgrades

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Things like fortune are abilities

pulsar lodge
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but there's a few different types, base mod uses upgrades, abilities, and defense slots

polar pewter
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Yea I saw armor can have defense slots

fickle barn
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Armor type specific reinforcements are defenses

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And some augments can be added freely

pulsar lodge
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upgrades are generally small boosts that can improve the tool in some way
abilities are more defining to a tool, and have more impactful or noticeable effects
defense slots are for armor for the most part, usually used for Protection type of modifiers

fickle barn
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For example if you add the desolate dagger ability to a weapon

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You can add all tiers of impending stab for free

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You can add all levels of multi-stab for free

polar pewter
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Oh okay that makes sense

fickle barn
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As they are kinda like sub-upgrades for the DD

polar pewter
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Yea

fickle barn
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The jei page for upgrades when u press "u" while hovering shows the upgrade type icon in the bottom right corner of the recipe

polar pewter
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I’ll just have to reread the guides in game and play around with it. My main problem currently is armor. Getting shredded by even common mobs

fickle barn
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Blue book icon means its a free addon

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Potential exclamation mark on its left tells which "root" upgrade it needs to be applicable

polar pewter
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Okay gotcha

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Thank you for the help

fickle barn
river crown
fickle barn
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Oh ye tru

polar pewter
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What would be good armor pre nether from tinkers?

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Like obsidian and then bronze maille? im confused

fickle barn
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Manasteel-steel

fickle barn
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I have 2 ingots of densium, worth making a knife with it? (can make active chrome rod)

winged mango
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not long reached the nether, what should my next upgrade be?

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for my weapon/armor

summer ridge
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For what reason are people taking Densium over antimatter for blade heads in late game? am I missing something it seems antimatter does double the damage

trim lily
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Upgrade whatever suits you

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Atleast this is what I did, have a lot of symbiosis, cobalt maille give you instantly melee prot 1, upgrade this to melee prot 4 on every piece, then you have +20% use speed on tools(the dagger)

Manyllum dagger then does more and more dmg the more you hit the enemy

Since you now have alot of AS you do lot of dmg fast. If I have those Big Skeletons near me, I dodge their first attack, then insta Shred them not being able to attack again

trim lily
past drift
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no need to craft it, it's in the book you get that contains most books

wind flower
short olive
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how do you make the vein hammer not awful to mine with

chilly ibex
short olive
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The strange spike formation instead of just 3x3, it makes it difficult to just mine straight

chilly ibex
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it's fine to me

past drift
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well ore veins usually aren't straight

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if you want to mine straight why use a vein hammer instead of the normal hammer

chilly ibex
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that

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good question

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and the answer is disintegrate crystal

short olive
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Trueing

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If only there was an aoe downgrade for me to use :^(

chilly ibex
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hmm

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wonder if that would be possible in emper's tinker tantrum mod....

fickle barn
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Debating whether knives r still worth it

chilly ibex
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knives are cool but not worth for bossing

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BUFF KNIVES

fickle barn
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ight, guess ill keep them in ingot form for now

orchid nimbus
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Is there a way to get more defense slots past just the magnet core?

past drift
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atomic alloy

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seearch for "defense slot" in JEI

orchid nimbus
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Okay I see that now, so without cobalt maille can you only get to 7 or am I missing something?

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Oh wait rebalanced doesn’t say it has a max level

chilly ibex
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It does technically

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You can only have 2 rebalanced variants

orchid nimbus
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Oh okay, so one with guilted black stone and one with dragon scales. Is there a way to get it to 10 without cobalt then?

wind flower
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spread 3 on a couple ways

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like pieces

real knoll
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would it be considered a bug that the magnet core modifier (+1 defense slot) does not work on shields, even tho they have defense slots?

pulsar lodge
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there is a specific subcategory for that

real knoll
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Hmm, makes sense I guess, thankfully I think I can still fit all the modifiers I want on it if I wait for antimatter instead, as that's the final way to get a defence slot I can think of, other than the atomic alloy and the rebalance

summer ridge
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Anyone got some good tinkers armour builds? Currently pre end but only a couple eyes away - have access to fire/ice dragonsteel and antimatter and I made a bunch of ACS before it got changed

rocky stump
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If you have enough ACS just make the whole thing out of ACS

rocky stump
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  1. Densium has the extra dense trait that increases your damage by 20%. Antimatter has a much higher base attack value, yes, but that difference is proportionally lower after accounting for sharp modifiers, and that difference is further bridged with the extra dense trait
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A true endgame optimised tinkers weapon will probably have the primary blade be antimatter, and densium on the other

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But it's probably just marginally stronger than a non antimatter build

summer ridge
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Thank you for the explanation, in terms of the armour - i have enough for full ACS but what modifiers should I go for? My current armour i just went all out on revitalising

rocky stump
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Revitalising is nice to fill the extra slots with, but it's by no means a priority

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You should have a hundred extra health from other sources, 1 more heart per upgrade isn't all that fantastic

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Defence slots, max melee prot for sure

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Magic prot is a maybe, you can do that or replace with revitalising if you think it useless

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As for standard upgrade slots, speed on the pants is nice, respiration on helmet

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But otherwise nothing much on those, the only piece that calls for a premium on slots is the chestpiece

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Crocodile is +5 armor and extra swim speed
2 ability slots on strength for sure, that's a perma +20% damage

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If you have antimatter you can dump even more ability slots, get +reach on your chest plate as well

haughty ocean
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guys how does acs armor work? cuz theres like empowered and activated stuff

chilly ibex
real knoll
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To actually change modes, you have to hold the armor piece in your hand and hit the key you have keybound to cycle the mode

haughty ocean
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Thx

simple pond
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what is the strongest armor/weapon you can make with tinkers in Expert Mode

meager terrace
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Any good Mining laser builds for Expert Difficulty ?

chilly ibex
orchid nimbus
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So assuming I’m reading right the ionized cannon uses melee speed for the charge speed right?

fickle barn
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5x swift strike ex

winter garnet
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im not seeing the crystalline modifier in the book. can someone tell me how to do it?

orchid nimbus
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Did you check jei? Pretty sure it shows most if not all the modifiers

winter garnet
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yeah it doesnt pop up for some reason

orchid nimbus
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Gimmie a sec I’ll check

winter garnet
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thanks man

orchid nimbus
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Crystal fruit drop from the void blossom

winter garnet
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ah just killed him so thats perfect

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thank you

orchid nimbus
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Np

fickle barn
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whar does the electron tuner do

fickle barn
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thoughts?

tune.PNG
fickle barn
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think id go w voltaic rod rather than the signalum

chilly ibex
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doesn't look too bad but yea voltaic is alwas the better rod choice

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manyullyn could be swapped out as well

fickle barn
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oh its densium

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densium blade, ender core, acs small rod, voltaic big rod

chilly ibex
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yea

fickle barn
#

i should go for some other blade?

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acs blade densium rod?

chilly ibex
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uhh densium is technically one of the highest damage base materials

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ACS is alright for damage iirc

fickle barn
#

what are the side slots for?

chilly ibex
fickle barn
chilly ibex
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???

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what UI are you in?

fickle barn
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tuners shift click

chilly ibex
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oh, i've literally never used the tuner so i have no idea

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what's the apple though?

fickle barn
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hmmm i can put a flux capacitor in the blue slots

fickle barn
chilly ibex
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ah, botania....

fickle barn
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hmmm

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damn, shoulda looked at the older talks in this channel

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apparentally the enderium trait only levels w no power

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winning strat woulda been to temporarily go w a worse blade and only switch to the densium after 25% metamorph

chilly ibex
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yea, blizz enderium increases the stats as the tool loses durability

fickle barn
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guess i'll take the hit and switch to osgloglas for now

chilly ibex
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and RF is basically a 2nd durability bar but with power

fickle barn
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since that is still decent damage and pretty free to make as repair mat

golden echo
fickle barn
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Seems to have 3 modes, armor piercing rapier, normal sword with medium aoe and cleaver mode with big aoe

golden echo
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Ohhh, interesting

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Gonna have to take a look at that at some point then

north field
#

just started the modpack, anyone have any decent combos i can work towards? last time i played tinkers it was in 1.12 im pretty sure, so the general "road to manyullyn cleaver" seems outdated. Is the cleaver still the best weapon overall?

meager terrace
#

Anyone can Help me With an ion Cannon ? 😄 i just cant Figgure out whats good and whats not

golden echo
north field
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they have a sort of damage attenuation that makes it so the faster you hit the less damage you do or smth?

keen umbra
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Yeah, it's more that than high base armor, they activate a damage reduction, but if you time well you can hit right after that wears off, how to time that I don't know

wind flower
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damage caps

north field
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makes sense

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il stick with the cleaver then lol

thin owl
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Cataclysm armor is so cringe

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Boss armor, that is

chilly ibex
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how?

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ignitium with cursium chest isn't bad