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pulsar lodge Jul 23, 2025, 4:15 AM

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no

carmine fractal Jul 23, 2025, 4:16 AM

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You dont? Was that changed?

pulsar lodge Jul 23, 2025, 4:16 AM

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that was only necessary when the seared tanks could not accept higher temp fuels

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which is no longer the case in more recent version

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the alloyer is still useful for automation however

upbeat garden Jul 23, 2025, 4:21 AM

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The alloyer did work at least. Thanks!

wind flower Jul 23, 2025, 6:22 AM

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pulsar lodge the alloyer is still useful for automation however

ive had smeltery not work for cinderslime and a few others and thats when alloyer was needed

thorn dome Jul 23, 2025, 2:42 PM

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How do I extract Liquid metals from my Scorched Foundry, into a bucket or whatever, so I can put it into an Alloyer?

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A Duct dosent seem to work for me, cant but the Bucket in there :O or im missing something lol

Update; Nvm figured it out

stone summit Jul 23, 2025, 2:56 PM

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thorn dome How do I extract Liquid metals from my Scorched Foundry, into a bucket or whatev...

Basic mekanism tank

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Only costs 4 iron and 4 redstone to make, and functions just like a bucket but with more capacity

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 3:47 PM

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wind flower ive had smeltery not work for cinderslime and a few others and thats when alloy...

can't you make cinderslime in the induction smelter?

thorn dome Jul 23, 2025, 4:35 PM

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Whats a good Cleaver I could make? I saw Invar seems good for a blade I think? what else are some good parts

vital crypt Jul 23, 2025, 4:36 PM

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what are good weapons and armors pre end?

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 4:59 PM

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thorn dome Whats a good Cleaver I could make? I saw Invar seems good for a blade I think? w...

silver helps if you're having trouble with undead

thorn dome Jul 23, 2025, 5:06 PM

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chilly ibex silver helps if you're having trouble with undead

got something already, but now im at a different problem.

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why cant I put the Tank Upgrade on here

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just trying to get some blazing blood so I can melt my Ichor stuff

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 5:09 PM

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yea, idk about melting and tank modifiers.....

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 5:59 PM

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Just got to The End and also got Osgloglas and our weapons are feeling a bit lacking
Haven't figured a decent ranged alternative yet either, still been testing stuff out

What's the best combo for melee and a ranged weapon around this point

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 6:03 PM

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osgloglas is pretty good though

carmine fractal Jul 23, 2025, 6:15 PM

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ranged weapons arent really any good from what i can tell

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 6:20 PM

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i just use my ACS daggers for range...

past drift Jul 23, 2025, 7:34 PM

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so what modifiers do y'all put on your cleavers?

carmine fractal Jul 23, 2025, 7:47 PM

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sharpness, swiftstrike, diamond, and netherite for me. primordial strength is meh

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better dps with higher level swiftstrike

past drift Jul 23, 2025, 7:53 PM

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that's probably roughly what I would have picked as well, wanted to make sure that I'm not missing something like "pick xy, it's stronger than you think against most enemies"

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2 things I'm mostly wondering about that one: sharpness has 5 levels, do we even get enough slots for that and: no reinforced/unreaking, aren't repairs annoying?

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though for the second point I feel like cleaver has such a high durability, mabye it's not that bad

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 7:58 PM

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past drift 2 things I'm mostly wondering about that one: sharpness has 5 levels, do we even...

how do you not know tinker's at this point 😭

just get more slots with other modifiers and durability is pointless if you have chromatic steel with good wireless charging

past drift Jul 23, 2025, 7:58 PM

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ah right, the charging

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and I know we can get more slots, but there is a max

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like we start with what, 2? and can get... 5 more?

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so valid question to ask how to distribute stuff, if 5 of those 7 are sharpness, not much room left

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 8:00 PM

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you can throw a golden apple in to exchange an ability slot for 2 upgrades

past drift Jul 23, 2025, 8:01 PM

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but my abilities 😭 (actually don't know if there is a relevant one besides maybe luck)

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 8:02 PM

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not really

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most ability modifiers aren't worth for weapons

past drift Jul 23, 2025, 8:03 PM

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(in general I feel like most abilities aren't that worthwhile)

rocky stump Jul 23, 2025, 9:07 PM

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Speaking of ranged weapons, I do honestly like the ion cannon

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With ACS it shoots at an acceptable speed

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Infinite ammo with lava gen, innate fiery with lava, huge single hit sonic damage

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:21 PM

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ion cannon i think is getting buffed?

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that or it already is buffed in the current version?

rocky stump Jul 23, 2025, 9:22 PM

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not yet buffed

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but even now, it's pretty strong i'd say

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you just need to make the weapon well

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:29 PM

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but when you have very specific materials to make it even usable

rocky stump Jul 23, 2025, 9:31 PM

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fair, and I wouldn't complain if it gets buffed

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but it's gated behind ancient city, by which time you probably already have access to TGB+osgloglas, and ideally ACS

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:33 PM

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how's it gated behind ancient city?

carmine fractal Jul 23, 2025, 9:33 PM

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past drift 2 things I'm mostly wondering about that one: sharpness has 5 levels, do we even...

Activated chromatic steel comsumes power instead of durability so its easy to not get it damaged

rocky stump Jul 23, 2025, 9:33 PM

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you need an echo shard, no?

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:34 PM

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oh, echo shard

carmine fractal Jul 23, 2025, 9:34 PM

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Also, osgloglas isnt too difficult to make if you stock up on osmium and glowstone

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:34 PM

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ACS just adds an RF bar but it doesn't replace the durability outright afaik

rocky stump Jul 23, 2025, 9:37 PM

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it's doing very respectable DPS is what I'll say

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it notably is one of the only weapons that can take advantage of ACS empowered ASPD

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metamorphium is only at 5%, so it has the potential to get higher

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only osgloglas, with end materials it can probably hit quite hard

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DPS wise it's already comparable to my cleaver

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:39 PM

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not bad

rocky stump Jul 23, 2025, 9:39 PM

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but I'd attribute that to the ability to crit consistently, which you can't quite do jumping up and down with the cleaver

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:40 PM

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just time it lol

rocky stump Jul 23, 2025, 9:46 PM

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hitting a bit too fast to time it consistently, but you're right, and hitting most crits makes cleaver dps about 1.5x higher on the dummy

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bridge will be closed a little once metamorphium is maxed, so I'm still quite convinced ion cannot is a strong ranged option

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 9:51 PM

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rocky stump it notably is one of the only weapons that can take advantage of ACS empowered A...

Apologies for newb questions but whats the abbreviations here?
Need to build a cannon and havent tried that weapon before, first time ive seen it in a mod i think

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:52 PM

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ACS = Activated Chromatic Steel
ASPD = attack speed?

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ion cannon is a tinker's only thing

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 9:53 PM

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Yeah I've used tinkers a bunch, been one of my favourite mods for a long time but I haven't seen it before

rocky stump Jul 23, 2025, 9:53 PM

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it's an addon to the mod

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 9:53 PM

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ty for explaining the abbreviations as well

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:53 PM

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ACS has 2 modes btw

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and it's different between armor and tools/weapons

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 9:54 PM

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will be my first time using that as well to be fair
we're not quite steady on power yet though
Only just got to the end, dont know if we're supposed to have big power yet

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:55 PM

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i'm still using a gas-burning generator with ethylene

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 9:56 PM

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oh ill have to check it out
So you can just charge the ACS then?

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 9:56 PM

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wireless charging, yea

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 9:57 PM

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build the whole cannon out of it or should I be mixing parts

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 10:00 PM

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tinker's is all about mixing parts

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check pinned for a spreadsheet me and 2 others put together

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 10:03 PM

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ahh have been looking for an updated one
Is that one based around MCE2?

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 10:04 PM

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yea?

exotic portal Jul 23, 2025, 10:04 PM

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perfect, thanks

misty drift Jul 23, 2025, 10:10 PM

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past drift so what modifiers do y'all put on your cleavers?

piercing 3 is very worth it. each level adds 0.5 attack damage(vs 0.75 for sharp) but also makes some damage go through armor

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i went straight for piercing 3 and then added lvls of sharp after

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i dont think swiftstrike is that good for the cleaver but i could be wrong. Im getting a lot of attack speed from vamp hunter anyways so i dont really need more

chilly ibex Jul 23, 2025, 10:15 PM

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piercing sucks for daggers though 😭

past drift Jul 23, 2025, 10:20 PM

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misty drift i dont think swiftstrike is that good for the cleaver but i could be wrong. Im g...

good point, probably diminishing returns

past drift Jul 23, 2025, 10:24 PM

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misty drift piercing 3 is very worth it. each level adds 0.5 attack damage(vs 0.75 for sharp...

I don't remember reading piercing in the book and I also can't find it in JEI right now, I'm confused

wind flower Jul 23, 2025, 10:29 PM

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past drift I don't remember reading piercing in the book and I also can't find it in JEI ri...

called pierce

past drift Jul 23, 2025, 10:45 PM

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wind flower called pierce

ah, found it, thanks!

misty drift Jul 23, 2025, 10:54 PM

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wind flower called pierce

oops sorry i didnt have the game open so i was going off of memory

lapis thorn Jul 24, 2025, 1:55 AM

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i do not think densium still spawns in the neth

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i looted at least 10 fortresses and nothing

chilly ibex Jul 24, 2025, 2:39 AM

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lapis thorn i do not think densium still spawns in the neth

what makes you think you can FIND densium.....?

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usejei

lapis thorn Jul 24, 2025, 2:39 AM

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chilly ibex what makes you think you can FIND densium.....?

someone said we could find densium armor in neth fortresses

chilly ibex Jul 24, 2025, 2:40 AM

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yea, idk about that

lapis thorn Jul 24, 2025, 2:48 AM

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yeah idk i searched and searched

cursive scaffold Jul 24, 2025, 3:55 AM

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I'm a totally new to tinkers, if i want to make a sledge, should i make the whole thing out of the best material i can access, or would it be better to have each part be a different material? If i put the head and handle as the same material do the bonus's stack?

pulsar lodge Jul 24, 2025, 4:01 AM

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cursive scaffold I'm a totally new to tinkers, if i want to make a sledge, should i make the whol...

duplicate materials will stack up the effects in ticon3 (1.16+), but generally i wouldn't advise stacking the same thing for every slot for stat reasons. getting more variety can also make the tool more widely effective.

patent viper Jul 24, 2025, 8:14 AM

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exotic portal Just got to The End and also got Osgloglas and our weapons are feeling a bit lac...

I can recommend the Minigun with all Upgrades from Create

rocky stump Jul 24, 2025, 8:16 AM

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how much damage does it do?

patent viper Jul 24, 2025, 8:18 AM

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20 Damage Per shot and has a ton of Bullets in Mag

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Unenchanted

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Didn't check out the Enchantments yet

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 8:37 AM

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patent viper I can recommend the Minigun with all Upgrades from Create

Ohhh, when you say upgrades from create, what sort of things?
I'm still fairly new to Pneumaticraft and I haven't got a compressor that does more than 5 bar

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 9:26 AM

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maybe with piercing rings and other flat bonuses but it's hard to say due to how boss DMG capping works

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the game likes it when you do a lot of damage in one hit

rocky stump Jul 24, 2025, 9:38 AM

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remind me how boss dmg capping works

patent viper Jul 24, 2025, 9:42 AM

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exotic portal Ohhh, when you say upgrades from create, what sort of things? I'm still fairly ...

I mean the Minigun from Create

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:43 AM

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patent viper I mean the Minigun from Create

Ohhhhh! Thanks for that! Will have to give it a look as well

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 9:55 AM

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rocky stump remind me how boss dmg capping works

instead of scaling up to a % of the bosses HP per hit or adaptive resistance(e.g. raising when hit for a large amount) it is a flat % that doesn't move spare difficulty scaling. where this becomes an issue is damage that is lower than 10 does literally 1-2. there may be some form of adaptive resistance too since echoing strikes will null out if you do too many

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this is only relevant to cata bosses as wardens aren't affected at all and instadie

rocky stump Jul 24, 2025, 9:56 AM

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Flat %, as in effectively resistance?

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 9:56 AM

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yeah

rocky stump Jul 24, 2025, 9:57 AM

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neat cedar the game likes it when you do a lot of damage in one hit

How does that benefit higher DPH? 100 reduced to 10 damage once, is the same as 10 reduced to 1 damage 10 times, no?

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 9:58 AM

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it may just straight up be flat number resist too but not sure on that but the point is that stuff like ACS empowered slashes go from 7 to 0-1 DMG axe phys damage is somewhere in the realm of 60-80 and that reduces down to 15-30

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it's sort of strange since a LOT of damage gets nullified when it shouldn't

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 10:00 AM

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rocky stump How does that benefit higher DPH? 100 reduced to 10 damage once, is the same as ...

this is mostly because there is a million % damage buffs and only one or two flat damage buffs

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like a sword that does 20 damage will cap around 30-50 on hit while an axe that does 50 will hit double that number with these being before multipliers

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percentage boosts favor higher numbers so this translates to beating resistance by a marginal amount

rocky stump Jul 24, 2025, 10:02 AM

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Bosses probably have some form of Armor I'd assume

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Since that heavily benefits high damage per hit with how Armor+toughness calcs work

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 10:03 AM

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like Alex cave bosses are also strange but it's difficult to get near them. hullbreaker has around 250 armor that shows but the dino doesn't afaik

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 3:49 PM

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i return lolol. looking to make some tanky armour using tinkers still in early expert what should i use

marble zenith Jul 24, 2025, 4:03 PM

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chromatic mailles and cobalt is good armor

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 4:09 PM

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would it be worth swapping the cobalt for blaze netherite?

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looking at this blaze netherite has slightly higher stats

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plus with flame adaptive it gives fire resistance and it mends while im on fire

marble zenith Jul 24, 2025, 4:12 PM

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probs, idk, i just know people have mentioned chromatic and cobalt. chromatic uses RF for a second durability bar so it sbasically inf durability if you have a good source of power

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and it gives fire prot and more bonuses

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 4:12 PM

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that makes sense

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so far ive not actually held a chromatic steel bar lol so idk what its like

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if it is like that then its probably way better for the cobalt because of the melee protection

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my power grid atm isnt the best but i can make it work

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thank you

past drift Jul 24, 2025, 4:16 PM

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so something about the crocodile modifier is broken. you can get the armor bonus permanently without wearing it

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described the bug here: https://github.com/wendall911/TCIntegrations/issues/97#issuecomment-3114058033

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considering that thread was orignally opened 3 weeks ago already (with a different issue) and hasn't gotten any response so far, I don't think there will be any quick fix soon

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considering the armor bonus is implemented weirdly anyway, I'm wondering what else from that mod is broken as well

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and now my character has a permanent bonus I can't get rid off

thick nacelle Jul 24, 2025, 4:19 PM

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If you die does it remove it?

past drift Jul 24, 2025, 4:20 PM

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well relog doesn't fix it, death maybe, but I don't really wanna die, have to finish that quest at some point

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but even if that is the solution, that's still broken

thick nacelle Jul 24, 2025, 4:20 PM

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yea I was just offering a way to remove it if you really wanted

past drift Jul 24, 2025, 4:21 PM

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I wonder if Emper should disable that modifier for now

past drift Jul 24, 2025, 4:21 PM

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thick nacelle yea I was just offering a way to remove it if you really wanted

thanks, I died recently anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter now for the quest, will try this

thick nacelle Jul 24, 2025, 4:22 PM

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I'm nearly at 7.5 days without a death

past drift Jul 24, 2025, 4:22 PM

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I think mimics are currently 100% of my deaths. they are such a ... "fun" and fair enemy
(but that's now offtopic)

thick nacelle Jul 24, 2025, 4:23 PM

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I have died to one yeah

marble zenith Jul 24, 2025, 4:24 PM

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For those who know tinkers, Does an Osglo blade, enderium plate, osglo handle and a chromatic steel handle sound good for a cleaver? any suggestions on changes or what modifiers to put on it?

wicked rock Jul 24, 2025, 4:32 PM

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For those who have built a Foundry...Is Nether Grout the most efficient way to build it? I was told there is another way with melting magma and pouring it onto another block but I can't find it in JEI

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 4:35 PM

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you can pour magma on flint to get a scorched brick which i think can be done in a smelter

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i personally just ended up crafting nether grout tho bacasue i was lazy

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if you have a small create iron from setup then you should have enough flint to do so

wicked rock Jul 24, 2025, 4:37 PM

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lethal birch i personally just ended up crafting nether grout tho bacasue i was lazy

Ahh, I see the flint recipe now. Thank you. I might try and do a bit of both if I can. I was hoping there might have been something even more efficient but I guess once it's done it's done.

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 4:37 PM

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fair

wicked rock Jul 24, 2025, 4:37 PM

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lethal birch if you have a small create iron from setup then you should have enough flint to ...

I actually don't think I have too much Flint but I have a decent amount of Magma, so I can make use of the Flint I have at least, thanks again

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 4:38 PM

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alright

past drift Jul 24, 2025, 5:09 PM

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thick nacelle If you die does it remove it?

oh lol I think I just found the error in the code on the github, wow

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(from tinker's integration, not from MCE2)

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let's see if they react when I make a PR for that...

mighty lintel Jul 24, 2025, 5:59 PM

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Is Chromatic Steel the best expert "endgame" equipment you can get? Armor and weapon? Currently working towards it

marble zenith Jul 24, 2025, 6:07 PM

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i dint think its "the best" cause of antimatter and irradium but its definitely a contender. It adds a lot of benefits, the best one being RF. You are able to charge it with power and it acts as durability so if you have infinite power you can have infinite durability on items with Chromatic Steel

chilly ibex Jul 24, 2025, 6:37 PM

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mighty lintel Is Chromatic Steel the best expert "endgame" equipment you can get? Armor and we...

it's technically not the best but theoretically it also...kinda is

mighty lintel Jul 24, 2025, 6:39 PM

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aah, okay.
So without a consistent energy source its not really good?
I should then probably first get a infinite power source ratlaugh

marble zenith Jul 24, 2025, 6:47 PM

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For those who know tinkers, Does an Osglo blade, enderium plate, osglo handle and a chromatic steel handle sound good for a cleaver? any suggestions on changes or what modifiers to put on it?

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@chilly ibex ^

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 7:00 PM

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marble zenith For those who know tinkers, Does an Osglo blade, enderium plate, osglo handle an...

9 modifiers towards 5 sharp, 3 swift, 1 fiery

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make sure to hit a dummy in activated/quelled mode to increase metamorphium

marble zenith Jul 24, 2025, 7:00 PM

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thank you

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do the parts sound good? any suggestions on any switches?

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 7:02 PM

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all good cat_tu not much better there

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hidden option is to make a broad axe instead

marble zenith Jul 24, 2025, 7:04 PM

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inhave been lookin at that too

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its pretty similar no?

neat cedar Jul 24, 2025, 7:55 PM

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it's just. better imo

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cleavers tend to still be too fast maxed out and you get higher dph/functional tool

deep wharf Jul 24, 2025, 8:00 PM

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What's a good master cleaver set up?

vivid thunder Jul 24, 2025, 8:23 PM

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mighty lintel aah, okay. So without a consistent energy source its not really good? I should...

As someone using 2 Stirling dynamos and a create charcoal farm, it's really easy to power the armor

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 8:35 PM

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I've just got osgloglas and activated chromatic steel, anyone got suggestions for an ion cannon/bow tinkers build?

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:37 PM

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chromium steel

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am i doing something wrong

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why when melting blitz lumium does it give me normal lumium

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i put 24 ingots in and got 8 lumium out

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:38 PM

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I had the same problem, do it in the foundry instead of smeltery

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:39 PM

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bruhhhhhhhhhhhh

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:39 PM

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yeah, I was racking my brain when i was trying earlier

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:39 PM

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aight thank you, guess i need to go get more blitz materials ig

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:40 PM

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learn ars and get Drygmys, learned about them today as well and got a farm running
Now our blocker is netherite 😆

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:40 PM

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ik the ars way i just havent set it up yet too lazy lol

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:41 PM

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aha i get you, i feel the same about other mods 😆

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:42 PM

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tbh ive spent most my time doing complicated bees

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:43 PM

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meh, i skip bees whenever i can, let the other two work on that
I had enough of animals when I did stoneblock and hyper focused chickens 😆
I had a living dex of max stat chickens by the end

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:44 PM

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lol i never really dabbled with genetics mods outside of chickens in insane craft and even then it was limited sooooooo

mighty lintel Jul 24, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Still havent fount a Blizz or a Blitz yet, I think my chromatic steel will habe to wait

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:47 PM

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from what i've heard its top tier so ive made a push for it

vivid thunder Jul 24, 2025, 9:51 PM

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lethal birch i put 24 ingots in and got 8 lumium out

Literally same thing happened to me. I was a tad pissed

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:57 PM

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...i did it twice because i thought i was seeing things wrong

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so i now need to do it a third time

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also before i fail a 3rd time i smelt the blitz lumium in the foundry then take it out and put it in the seared alloyer yes

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:58 PM

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lethal birch ...i did it twice because i thought i was seeing things wrong

Also fell in to this trap
you were doing just enough for a couple ingots to test it right?

vivid thunder Jul 24, 2025, 9:58 PM

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Sounds right. JEI has the exact instructions

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:58 PM

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exotic portal Also fell in to this trap you were doing just enough for a couple ingots to test...

24 ingots

exotic portal Jul 24, 2025, 9:59 PM

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vivid thunder Sounds right. JEI has the exact instructions

ye, not saying it doesn't, just not blatantly clear

vivid thunder Jul 24, 2025, 9:59 PM

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I use the smeltery to alloy but a seared alloyer will do it too. You can move liquid by the bucket or with a tank

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 9:59 PM

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enough for the 8 chromatic alloy ingots for the 4 mailles for my armour

vivid thunder Jul 24, 2025, 9:59 PM

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I was making 24 chromatic alloys lol even though you only need 16 for enough plates for armor. I have a few leftover I suppose

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 10:01 PM

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i made cobalt armour and gonna make the chromatic maile

vivid thunder Jul 24, 2025, 10:03 PM

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It's pretty neat. As long as you keep it charged, you kinda survive everything

lethal birch Jul 24, 2025, 11:26 PM

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FINALLY got it, how do you charge it lol

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also what mode should i have it in activated or empowered

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oh yeah tinkers workbech exists lol

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and energetic infuser

vivid thunder Jul 24, 2025, 11:56 PM

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Empowered I'm pretty sure. I used a charger from ender io

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 12:02 AM

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I was thinking empowered, it seems a bit better overall

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 12:03 AM

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empowered is better

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 12:03 AM

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Either way i have it now, just need to consider what abilities/modifiers i wanna put on it

vivid thunder Jul 25, 2025, 12:03 AM

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I still haven't added anything to mine lol

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 12:03 AM

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a bit of melee prot on top of what's already there, and a bunch of revitalized

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anything else is up to player preference

vivid thunder Jul 25, 2025, 12:04 AM

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The passive from densium makes you so strong it's crazy

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 12:04 AM

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densium bad, dragonsteel good 🙂

vivid thunder Jul 25, 2025, 12:05 AM

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Dragon steel can eat my feet

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 12:05 AM

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Given I’m still early expert i wanted to get a halfway decent weapon squared away and some armour so i can look at killing stronger things lol

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Like dragons

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 12:05 AM

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there's modifiers specifically for increased damage against fire OR ice dragons

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well, zapped increases damage against both

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 12:07 AM

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Yea, i might look at those, not sure atm still feel like general bulk and damage is better then specific for the wider use cases

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Either way its a tomorrow me problem lol

worn roost Jul 25, 2025, 1:42 AM

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uhhhh hi. may have just discovered something. you cant usually enchant tinkers tools right?

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i got efficiency 7 on my #normal pick by crafting it with sand to make suspicious sand and then brushing it. i feel like thats not supposed to happen lol

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anyone have any other tricks like this?

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 2:06 AM

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it's not a "trick", it's a bug that should not even exist and i think it's already fixed for next patch

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 2:32 AM

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what upgrades would be good to apply to the blaze-netherite armor?

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also, struggling to figure out how to best set up a cleaver for melee damage

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right now i have manyullin, but other than that, i dont really get what else to use for this

worn roost Jul 25, 2025, 2:36 AM

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chilly ibex it's not a "trick", it's a bug that should not even exist and i think it's alrea...

Yeah that’s fair, know of any other bugs for pre nether 😏?

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Also tray, I copied your pre nether cleaver build from the top of this thread but couldn’t see the modifiers you used. If you still have it can you please screenshot what I need. Thanks.

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Pretty sure it was bismuthinite rose gold cleaver

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I skimmed the above messages best I could but could only find some armour modifiers. Any tinkers help is appreciated

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 2:42 AM

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worn roost Also tray, I copied your pre nether cleaver build from the top of this thread bu...

yea it was nothing special, i literally used it JUST to get blaze heads but i did use it against the wither and it did decent with just sharp

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ngl, didn't have a traditional early game weapon since bounties were BUSTED and we could get dreadsteel stuff with hardly any effort

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 2:44 AM

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just realized my cleaver is still using a wooden handle

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should probably replace that

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 3:00 AM

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would the protection modifier just be an overall good one to throw on armor?

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 3:04 AM

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it'd help but melee is really the only one you need, plus revitalized

vivid thunder Jul 25, 2025, 3:07 AM

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Plus eating every food you find on the floor

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 3:08 AM

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oh, revitalized isnt that difficult to get

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 3:08 AM

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what i did was add melee prot up to 80% and then everything else was revitalized.....

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upgrade modifiers are personal preference

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 3:10 AM

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ok so just making sure here: each "melee protection 1" costs one defense slot, right?

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so applying it twice eats two slots?

pulsar lodge Jul 25, 2025, 3:16 AM

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stone summit so applying it twice eats two slots?

two separate levels would be two slots yes

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 3:16 AM

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ah ok

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and you know, i keep forgetting about the rings

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not used to those existing at all

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how can i tell what my total melee resistance is at?

pulsar lodge Jul 25, 2025, 3:20 AM

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stone summit how can i tell what my total melee resistance is at?

not from the puffish attributes that's for sure

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the tconstruct protection effects are 8% per level

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 3:21 AM

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ah ok

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 3:26 AM

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i'd just gauge it off if you can survive bosses

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 3:27 AM

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ah. probably though just applying it twice on each armor should be fine?

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 3:28 AM

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you can do 2 pieces for 40% each

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you need quite a bit

stone summit Jul 25, 2025, 3:28 AM

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oh

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i already put 1 level on everything lol

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annoyingly enough the part i am lacking in is apples

rocky stump Jul 25, 2025, 4:30 AM

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Any worthwhile abilities on any equipment/tool? Or do we just convert to upgrades

hard delta Jul 25, 2025, 4:37 AM

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Hello there, i want to build my first ionized cannon because it seems quite interesting. what parts/upgrades would you guys recommend? (Expert Mode, The Great Below)

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and also, is there a recommended fluid for damage? or do all fluids do the same dmg for that one?

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 4:41 AM

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rocky stump Any worthwhile abilities on any equipment/tool? Or do we just convert to upgrade...

more than likely using gapples for more modifiers.....not a lot of abilities aside from luck and unbreakable that are REALLY worth using

rocky stump Jul 25, 2025, 4:43 AM

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hard delta and also, is there a recommended fluid for damage? or do all fluids do the same ...

fluids do not modify the sonic damage component, which is the main bulk of your damage

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however, they do have bonus effects that you can check

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the more expensive fluids do more bonus damage, and apply better negative effects, but imo it's not worth it

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I just use lava so that I can spam shots without caring

rocky stump Jul 25, 2025, 4:47 AM

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hard delta Hello there, i want to build my first ionized cannon because it seems quite inte...

Osgloglas Broad Blade x2
Activated Chromatic Ion Chamber
Blizz Enderium Tough Handle

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I'm quite confident that this is the strongest possible ion cannon with pre-end materials, ion chamber and handle are probably BiS regardless, and only the broad blades would be replaced with end materials

rocky stump Jul 25, 2025, 4:49 AM

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rocky stump

showcase

hard delta Jul 25, 2025, 4:50 AM

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ok, thanks!
im just abit overwhelmed with Activated Chromatic Steel in itself

rocky stump Jul 25, 2025, 4:50 AM

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yeah, it's a huge hassle, but it's worth the trouble

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It boosts your attack speed by a significant margin, and it's one of the best % stat modifier on tinkers equipment

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that wants attack speed, at least

neat cedar Jul 25, 2025, 1:15 PM

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I mean it's one of the best handle mats in the game either way

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not having to deal with durability is a +++

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some weapons hate the empowered state especially for bossing / general use because you can end up sniping your own guys from ten miles away because the projectiles go through blocks. and some bosses stop taking real damage if you hit them too much too fast

rocky stump Jul 25, 2025, 1:20 PM

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yeah, power durability, boosted ASPD, +Looting, double damage on burning enemies

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it's a 1-of in almost every tinkers weapon

neat cedar Jul 25, 2025, 1:23 PM

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I'm really not sure if I even move off of osloglas, the extra dense passive is too strong

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unironically irradium and protocite don't seem worth going for when they lack the passive

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 2:29 PM

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densium is better than osgloglas

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technically

vivid thunder Jul 25, 2025, 2:51 PM

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Mmm densium

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 3:44 PM

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chilly ibex a bit of melee prot on top of what's already there, and a bunch of revitalized

how do i add these to my armor

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nvm found it lol

upbeat garden Jul 25, 2025, 5:13 PM

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Why do people reccomend Activated Chromatic Steel for the maile instead of the main armor pieces? The effects are the same for either right? So wouldn't using it as the main pieces give better defensive stats overall than the other options in expert? e.g. cobalt maile w/ ACS armor is higher stats than ACS maile with cobalt armor right?

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 5:22 PM

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its cheaper to have it as maile costing only 8 ingots for the full maile set instead of the 16 for the full armour set

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just means less grinding, i do think if you wanted to grind the other ingots out for the acs armor set by all means go ahead but for most just having it as maile is fine as its not much armour dropped overall

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plus just looking at the spreadsheet you only pick up 4 armour for the extra 8 bars so its just not seen as very worth overall

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 5:58 PM

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upbeat garden Why do people reccomend Activated Chromatic Steel for the maile instead of the m...

ACS is cheaper for maille, and imo there's better plating options ~~like dragonsteel~~

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it's not hard to make ACS plating though, just a bit of extra farming

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 6:19 PM

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what dragon steel do you use tray??

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or does it not matter

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it looks like it doesnt matter

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so dealers choice ig lol

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 6:33 PM

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lethal birch what dragon steel do you use tray??

fire is easiest

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lightning isn't bad but ice is downright impossible

merry turtle Jul 25, 2025, 6:35 PM

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Tinker's Setups?
Y'all using multiple alloyer, loop tank systems, filtered pipes(what mod), or AE2 automation?
|| I totally am not running a semi defunct Hodgepodge of all the above 😅||

Sorry if this is a problem. I get it's "combos". This thread is long and has a lot of attention figure it could help. 🤷

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 6:37 PM

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i just have a smelter and foundry plus a couple alloyers for ACS and pyrotheum

merry turtle Jul 25, 2025, 6:39 PM

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chilly ibex i just have a smelter and foundry plus a couple alloyers for ACS and pyrotheum

Using channels, running to tanks, or just keeping things clean and measured?

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 6:40 PM

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separated

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i just kinda manually inputted fluids into the alloyer tanks

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BUT i do have mekanism tanks inputting into those so i can just mass produce what i need to make ACS or pyrotheum in mass

merry turtle Jul 25, 2025, 6:42 PM

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I was doing that for a while but the tedium got to be too much for me.

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 6:42 PM

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i rarely had to make more pyrotheum, and ACS was easy...blaze netherite was the tedious part for me funnily enough

merry turtle Jul 25, 2025, 6:45 PM

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Okay yeah, that's what I do for the most part, was working on ae2 rebuild though. Just unsure if the time is worth. I assume most of the others on my server aren't about it. Just run it out to tanks and those tanks lead back to alloyer via levers and Mek pipes or ID 🤷

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Or thermal I guess

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 7:43 PM

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chilly ibex lightning isn't bad but ice is downright impossible

so about that ice dragon

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i got an ice dragon egg

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granted neptunium blocks is kinda annoying but not the worst

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all i wanted was a heart of the sea

chilly ibex Jul 25, 2025, 7:47 PM

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lethal birch so about that ice dragon

i was talking about the dragonsteel ingots, not the dragons....but ok

lethal birch Jul 25, 2025, 7:47 PM

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ik lol

opaque dagger Jul 25, 2025, 10:19 PM

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For the people making chromatic alloy, How are you farming the different mobs? I cant seem to find blizz, or blitz

solar marlin Jul 25, 2025, 10:22 PM

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Should I make a regular hammer or a vein hammer to clear away a cave?

exotic portal Jul 25, 2025, 10:27 PM

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opaque dagger For the people making chromatic alloy, How are you farming the different mobs? I...

I set this all up yesterday, I went with a Drygmy farm
Happy to help out if you haven't done it before, i had to learn how as well xD

opaque dagger Jul 25, 2025, 10:29 PM

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exotic portal I set this all up yesterday, I went with a Drygmy farm Happy to help out if you ...

That makes so much sense! Thank you! I forgot that was a thing.
The only thing im unsure about is where the mobs spawn JEI says the 4 of them spawn anywhere, But ive only seen basalz in the nether and blaze in the nether

exotic portal Jul 25, 2025, 10:30 PM

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opaque dagger That makes so much sense! Thank you! I forgot that was a thing. The only thing i...

nah, they have specific biomes, took us about half hour each mob with 2 of us looking 😭
I think the wiki said where their biomes are
If you give me a min i could probably find it

I think one is savannah, might be Blitz

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Blizz i think was just a snowy biome

opaque dagger Jul 25, 2025, 10:32 PM

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even just knowing that is a life saver, Thank you! I was getting tilted just wandering till I found something

exotic portal Jul 25, 2025, 10:34 PM

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its all good man, i spent the full day before trying to figure everything out, finding Drygmys stopped me from giving up on the Chromatic Steel 😆

safe plinth Jul 25, 2025, 10:34 PM

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Should i only use one solar generator, or will it be better to use multiple connected with wires?

exotic portal Jul 25, 2025, 10:35 PM

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as someone who hasn't even got solar generators yet, surely the more the merrier?

exotic portal Jul 25, 2025, 10:49 PM

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rocky stump Osgloglas Broad Blade x2 Activated Chromatic Ion Chamber Blizz Enderium Tough Ha...

@opaque dagger - Highly recommend this build of the Ion cannon if you're making a weapon with your first taste of ACS

Massive damage and I haven't even added all my upgrades yet
Was a great shout from Whyis, much appreciated

exotic portal Jul 25, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Does anyone know if different fluids react with the Ionized Cannon differently?

pearl lion Jul 26, 2025, 12:46 AM

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What's everyone's recommendation for armor going into the end, plus a good weapon? Gotta be something sustainable for like 3-4 people because im playing with friends

ember vine Jul 26, 2025, 1:43 AM

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anybody have a good recommendation for a normal mode armor set, planning on doing the eternal invasion soon

plush lava Jul 26, 2025, 2:55 AM

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silver gear makes the invasion free since there undead i made a smite 10 hammer did 60 damage crits

carmine fractal Jul 26, 2025, 3:40 AM

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pearl lion What's everyone's recommendation for armor going into the end, plus a good weapo...

Dragonsteel plating with chromatic steel maille is your best option pre end

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 4:34 AM

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it's the best combination in general unless you wanna farm a shit ton of antimatter

vocal sandal Jul 26, 2025, 6:51 AM

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anyone have suggestions on a pre-nether weapon / combination for tinkers?

past drift Jul 26, 2025, 12:07 PM

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vocal sandal anyone have suggestions on a pre-nether weapon / combination for tinkers?

currently using an invar cleaver

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 1:06 PM

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chilly ibex densium is better than osgloglas

just unsure how like. reasonable this is. the stat boost is negligible

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at this point putting your efforts into grinding mekanism seems more reasonable

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 1:07 PM

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past drift currently using an invar cleaver

this is the best pre nether weapon, esp w/ an emerald.

past drift Jul 26, 2025, 1:23 PM

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neat cedar this is the best pre nether weapon, esp w/ an emerald.

because emerald buffes the invar trait of dmg in "neutral" temperatures?

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 1:29 PM

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yeah

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you're getting upwards of 20+ bonus damage w/ melee modifiers

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 1:47 PM

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What's the raw stat buff of invar's trait?

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Percentage damage boost? Flat?

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 1:48 PM

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flat damage boost but it's before the % from pufferfish

wicked rock Jul 26, 2025, 2:17 PM

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I made a set of Blaze Netherite armor with Cobalt Maille. When they were made I was only able to put Melee Prot up to tier 4 even though I thought I'd seen people saying you could max it out.

When I'm looking at enchant potential, it seems like there is a lot less options than previous armor, why is that? I see I can put Unbreaking on, Blessing, Curse of Bones, Spectal Bite, but not much else.

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:21 PM

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wicked rock I made a set of Blaze Netherite armor with Cobalt Maille. When they were made I ...

here are the defensive modifiers you can add on they are in the encyclopaedia for tinkers

wicked rock Jul 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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lethal birch here are the defensive modifiers you can add on they are in the encyclopaedia fo...

That makes sense and I capped each piece on Melee Prot. It started with Melee Prot 1 and then I added 3 more tiers which used up the defensive slots seemingly.

Do these reduce enchanting options too?

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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normally tinkers shouldn't be able to be enchanted

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some special modded enchants don't have specific nbt

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hi corails you're a different can of worms

wicked rock Jul 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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Ahh, I see

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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anyway it's 4 prot on each PIECE

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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I have no idea about enchants tbh lol like cy is saying tinkers normally cant be enchanted

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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so you want 10 levels of melee rpot across your armor

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so 2/3/2/3 is totally valid

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:26 PM

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Yea i went
2/2/3/3 then with whatever was spare put revitalising on

wicked rock Jul 26, 2025, 2:26 PM

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Oh damn, so I have wasted my potential with 4 on all 4 pieces NotLikeThis

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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Modification table

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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use a modifier table and wet sponge to get rid of it

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you can use certain slime crystals to get BACK the modifier too

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it says in JEI since earth/sky/nether(?) all take off different attributes

wicked rock Jul 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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Oh that's awesome, I kept seeing that table in JEI and wasn't completely sure how it worked.

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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end slime takes off all of them

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point is, soul vial a elder guardian and put him into indentured servitude

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:28 PM

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Its such a blessing to be able to remove modifiers

wicked rock Jul 26, 2025, 2:29 PM

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Saves me a lot of hassle starting over, that is for sure, appreciate the knowledge

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:30 PM

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why am I a rat now

wicked rock Jul 26, 2025, 2:31 PM

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2/2/3/3, Revitalizing the rest, Diamond and Netherite upgrades I would guess come next. Would you even bother putting Unbreaking on?

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:31 PM

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n you're getting like 1k cobalt from mining and that will last actually forever

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:32 PM

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Given im using chromatic steel im not gonna bother

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:32 PM

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cobalt is a fantastic econ material especially since the armor it makes is 1k a piece

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the upgrade you're making is chromatic steel which won't need durability

past drift Jul 26, 2025, 2:32 PM

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neat cedar why am I a rat now

because you talked so much you leveled up: #🤖-bot-commands message

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:32 PM

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rattan

wicked rock Jul 26, 2025, 2:33 PM

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I kept seeing people talking about chromatic steel next but I'm not there yet, soon hopefully. Thanks again both of you

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:33 PM

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Chromatic steel can be a bother

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:33 PM

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it really is just setting up drygmys

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ars nouveau is critical to your success

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:34 PM

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Know this tho
Blitz spawn in savana/desert
Blizz spawn in snow/tundra
basalz spawn in the basalt delta (nether)

past drift Jul 26, 2025, 2:34 PM

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(and beach counts as desert)

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:34 PM

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Yea which i still find weird lol

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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for blaze you can grow ichor or put a spawner in a foundry by virtue of pulverizers tier skipping the great below for mek cardboard boxes

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:36 PM

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Also you will needs a foundry and foundry alloyer set up to get the blizz lumium

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That is actually the most important bit of info lol

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:36 PM

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this is true I forget since I made like

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4 blocks more than I needed of ACS

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:37 PM

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It doesnt have to be large you just need it

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 2:37 PM

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create, thermal foundation and ars nouveau are the best mods to progress nether to end

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create is only up to the point you look up 'precision mechanism machine'

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 2:40 PM

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the thing that makes drygms a bit more balanced is the fact they still need source, so you need a decent enough production of it to capitalise on drygmys

merry turtle Jul 26, 2025, 3:04 PM

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neat cedar for blaze you can grow ichor or put a spawner in a foundry by virtue of pulveriz...

Foundry? I thought when I tried the foundry for blaze it didn't work and I had to move them to a smeltery.

neat cedar Jul 26, 2025, 3:05 PM

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merry turtle Foundry? I thought when I tried the foundry for blaze it didn't work and I had t...

it takes fuel ticks for things to die in a foundry/smeltery

merry turtle Jul 26, 2025, 3:08 PM

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neat cedar it takes fuel ticks for things to die in a foundry/smeltery

Aware. Pretty certain it had fuel. Maybe not. Either way I just gave it it's own smeltery but Ichor is probably the way to go 🤦

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Iirc I usejei and double checked 🤷

quiet quest Jul 26, 2025, 3:43 PM

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What will you guys consider the highest damaging weapon in game

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 3:45 PM

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cleaver probably

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 4:13 PM

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quiet quest What will you guys consider the highest damaging weapon in game

Depends on what you define as "damaging", but yeah, cleaver is the generic go-to

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 4:16 PM

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i saw someone with a 30 damage cleaver a while ago

quiet quest Jul 26, 2025, 4:16 PM

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chilly ibex i saw someone with a 30 damage cleaver a while ago

dang

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 4:17 PM

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my daggers have 14 damage i think?

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 4:26 PM

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^

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And it's built for more attack speed, swapping for an additional osgloglas piece nets you 36 I believe

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 4:28 PM

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damn

mighty lintel Jul 26, 2025, 4:52 PM

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since I nearly got chromatic steel(finally got my hands on a blizz), what would be the setup for armor? both parts(maile and the plating) chromatic steel or one cs and one something else?

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 4:53 PM

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mighty lintel since I nearly got chromatic steel(finally got my hands on a blizz), what would ...

ACS maille with whatever plating...blizz enderium is nice, cobalt maybe if you're still early nether

mighty lintel Jul 26, 2025, 4:54 PM

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ACS is what? activated chromatic steel?

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I will manage blizz enderium🤔

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 4:55 PM

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check pinned for mostly finished spreadsheet

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the dude that did the info stuff has been lackin

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 5:14 PM

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mighty lintel since I nearly got chromatic steel(finally got my hands on a blizz), what would ...

ACS plating, blizz enderium maille

mighty lintel Jul 26, 2025, 5:14 PM

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now I got two conflicting messages lel lel

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 5:15 PM

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look for yourself

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blizz enderium stats are not good

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you only ever use it because of the metamorphium trait

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 5:26 PM

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I atm am using cobalt plate acs maile

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It works pretty well

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Gonna look at dragon steel when i can tho

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For the plate

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 5:28 PM

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lethal birch I atm am using cobalt plate acs maile

I mean, acs is a straight upgrade statwise to cobalt, so reversing that into acs plate + cobalt maille is a straight upgrade as well

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the only reason you would go acs maille is that you want to eventually swap to dragonsteel plating

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 5:28 PM

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Ik i just went the cheaper option at the time because i dont have drygmy setup yet

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 5:28 PM

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or that it needs less acs metal, which eh, you're already 90% of the way there, just make a bit more

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 5:29 PM

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lethal birch Ik i just went the cheaper option at the time because i dont have drygmy setup y...

fair

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 5:30 PM

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When i get drygmys set up by al means im more willing to use more for the plates, but if i can just bridge the gap to something like fire dragonsteel then im not bothered

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I could consider ice dragonsteel, 16 neptunium blocks isnt the worst thing ive done in gaming lol

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 5:33 PM

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just go fire imo, netherite is pretty easy, especially with megaveins

twin marten Jul 26, 2025, 5:33 PM

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Aren't megaveins p rare?

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Do you mind sharing ur railgun build or do I just have to scroll up

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 5:34 PM

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relatively, but you can just fly around with ars scrying activated

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if you see a huge mass of lights, voila

rocky stump Jul 26, 2025, 5:34 PM

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rocky stump Osgloglas Broad Blade x2 Activated Chromatic Ion Chamber Blizz Enderium Tough Ha...

^

twin marten Jul 26, 2025, 5:35 PM

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Thank you

lethal birch Jul 26, 2025, 5:35 PM

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Ive been using a create tunnelbore for all my mining atm

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I REALLLYY need to branch into other mods but i want to build places for them specifically lolol

drifting pumice Jul 26, 2025, 6:27 PM

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Does overslime reduce armor or is this a visual bug?

pulsar lodge Jul 26, 2025, 6:30 PM

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drifting pumice Does overslime reduce armor or is this a visual bug?

yep, overslime reduces the stats of equipment that doesn't have a modifier considered an "overslime friend", which is for the most part, overforced or any slimy material's trait effect.

drifting pumice Jul 26, 2025, 6:31 PM

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Thank you for the explanation. Now I'm wondering how noticeable that reduction in stats would be. At a glance it doesn't look too bad

pulsar lodge Jul 26, 2025, 6:31 PM

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it's for the most part like 10%

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but armor gets with a flat debuff

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not huge but usually not favorable

drifting pumice Jul 26, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Thanks, I think I'm going to end up using it so I can also use overmending and not have to worry much about repairing

Edit: Learned overslime and overmending is not useful at all for blaze netherite armor lol

woeful relic Jul 26, 2025, 6:39 PM

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Hi! Any guides for best weapons / armor from just Overworld?

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 6:46 PM

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woeful relic Hi! Any guides for best weapons / armor from just Overworld?

For weapons you want to prioritize silver and invar, anything else is personal preference. For armor, manasteel is best..i hardly did tinker's in the early versions though

woeful relic Jul 26, 2025, 6:47 PM

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THank you, I thought I saw someone with like Smite 12 on a hammer

reef solstice Jul 26, 2025, 8:13 PM

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Steel seems really good for armor and weapons pre-nether too. But its a bit luck reliant on finding a single nether quartz in chest loot

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From there you can make an early foundry from Magma blocks and melt iron ore (with silk touch) for steel

vivid thunder Jul 26, 2025, 8:17 PM

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roguelike dungeon, floor 3 or 4 has quartz blocks guaranteed

reef solstice Jul 26, 2025, 8:18 PM

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vivid thunder roguelike dungeon, floor 3 or 4 has quartz blocks guaranteed

Nice, didn't know that

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The early foundry also gives you access to some other early materials for alloys that are really good

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this has been working really well for me pre-nether @~ 20dps without really making an attempt to optimize it

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 8:32 PM

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vivid thunder roguelike dungeon, floor 3 or 4 has quartz blocks guaranteed

It's 3 and 4 iirc with the crypt rooms

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 8:33 PM

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reef solstice this has been working really well for me pre-nether @~ 20dps without really maki...

You could put silver somewhere for extra undead damage

reef solstice Jul 26, 2025, 8:37 PM

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chilly ibex You could put silver somewhere for extra undead damage

potentially

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I think I tested it during construction for the blades at least and the steel just does better damage overall to the point where the silver bonus didnt seem as worthwhile in either blade slot.

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Not sure about the rose gold but I dont think it came close to Exilite's benefits on the handle either

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 8:50 PM

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reef solstice Not sure about the rose gold but I dont think it came close to Exilite's benefit...

rose gold isn't worth using for the stats

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i usually only use it for binding or large plate

reef solstice Jul 26, 2025, 9:07 PM

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Im thinking more along the lines that the extra upgrade will outweigh the silver benefit but I havnt done the math. Isn't the undead bonus like 2 damage?

chilly ibex Jul 26, 2025, 9:49 PM

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It's quite a bit actually despite the numbers

silk anchor Jul 27, 2025, 1:18 AM

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how do i make chromatic steel im looking at the enderium lumian and signalum recipes and i cant see how to make it. i saw someone say something about an induction smelter but i dont have that tab on my jei

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craggy fox Jul 27, 2025, 1:19 AM

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induction smelter makes the ingots, not the molten form

silk anchor Jul 27, 2025, 1:20 AM

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I cant believe that i didnt process that thank you

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 1:22 AM

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silk anchor

try actually searching for 'activated chromatic steel'

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 1:39 AM

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silk anchor

don't put the blitz lumium in the smeltery when you get it unless you wanna have a bad time

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 1:39 AM

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kekw

silk anchor Jul 27, 2025, 1:44 AM

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ok wont do that

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what happens

frozen dragon Jul 27, 2025, 1:44 AM

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U get normal lumium instead of blitz

silk anchor Jul 27, 2025, 1:45 AM

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is that becuase of a temp problem

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 1:46 AM

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it's the recipe. You have to melt it in the foundry first and then bucket it over or use the scorched alloyer

silk anchor Jul 27, 2025, 1:46 AM

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oh ok

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thanks for the tip i wouldve done just that lmao

craggy fox Jul 27, 2025, 1:49 AM

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i just did that earlier today but i already got bored and didn't wanna make the good fuels anyway so the lumium of shame has just been sitting in my smeltery

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 1:59 AM

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frozen dragon U get normal lumium instead of blitz

you get blitz lumium AND a bit of regular lumium

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 2:03 AM

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chilly ibex you get blitz lumium AND a bit of regular lumium

He's saying that you get regular lumium only if you melt it in the smeltery instead of the foundry

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mistake I did as well

dreamy ore Jul 27, 2025, 3:40 AM

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I've made my first matter manipulator and i have a couple questions about it, i added expanded because i thought i could get 3x3 laser, but it seems to only apply to the melee part which was already 3x3, how do i make the laser cover a wider range?
also do other buffs like haste and efficiency apply to the laser?
should i be using any particular fluid? i'm currently using lava because it's free and easy

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 3:50 AM

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@whole elm

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answer question

whole elm Jul 27, 2025, 3:54 AM

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wat

whole elm Jul 27, 2025, 3:55 AM

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dreamy ore I've made my first matter manipulator and i have a couple questions about it, i ...

use any fluid that's easy for you to access - it doesnt give you any buffs, its only there to charge the weapon and let you use the laser portion of it

sterile flint Jul 27, 2025, 4:07 AM

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It lists different effects for them in the book. Is it bugged or something?

whole elm Jul 27, 2025, 4:08 AM

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no there's other weapons that do that

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also I think a shield modifier that dumps liquid when hit

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 5:34 AM

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dreamy ore I've made my first matter manipulator and i have a couple questions about it, i ...

matter manipulator by default already has a 3x3 mining mode

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right click it

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I believe expanded buffs 3x3 further to 3x5 and then to 5x5, but once again, it's buffing the AoE mode

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you're very likely using the laser on single target mode

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 5:35 AM

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sterile flint It lists different effects for them in the book. Is it bugged or something?

the effects in the book are for the ion cannon

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as far as I know there is nothing to buff in the matter manipulator, it does no damage, it just mines

neat cedar Jul 27, 2025, 5:44 AM

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its for anything that uses spilling too iirc

dreamy ore Jul 27, 2025, 8:12 AM

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rocky stump matter manipulator by default already has a 3x3 mining mode

the book does say it's 3x3 by default which is why i was confused, this is what right click does for me

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 8:12 AM

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rocky stump right click it

^

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 8:12 AM

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rocky stump you're very likely using the laser on single target mode

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Open inventory, hover over it, you should see "single target mode"

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Right click it

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It should now say "AoE mode"

dreamy ore Jul 27, 2025, 8:13 AM

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oooohhh!! i missed the part where you can right click it with just empty hand AePointLaugh
thank you AeHypers

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 8:14 AM

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What's your matter manipulator build

dreamy ore Jul 27, 2025, 8:16 AM

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osgloglas for head/handle and fancy core thingy and cobalt for band

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abilities/upgrades i've not put much yet other than silky, i'll take a screenshot when i load back in

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hazy hearth Jul 27, 2025, 9:31 AM

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just made this thing i have no idea what to do with the last 5 upgrade slots but also i realize it may be too fast aswell as seeing this matter manipulator might just be the best thing ever so i mightve just done this for nothing

neat cedar Jul 27, 2025, 10:13 AM

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add an ability slot and make it unbreakable w/ ur last five upgrade

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for now, 5 reinforcement is fine

silent terrace Jul 27, 2025, 4:23 PM

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Just continuing the discussion here. So with that in mind, why make a katana at all? It seems like way more resources to do something you can accomplish just as well if not better with a diamond sword

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This isn't criticism, to be clear. I've not touched tcon since you could make arrows, so a lot of this is very new to me

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 4:29 PM

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hazy hearth just made this *thing* i have no idea what to do with the last 5 upgrade slots b...

you get it from a quest i'm pretty sure

silent terrace Jul 27, 2025, 4:29 PM

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Like. Right now I've got 3 weapons that do around 10 or so damage each per hit, 1400 durability, and medium swing speed. All accessible and obtained pre-nether with minimal crafting. So I guess where I'm confused is, why is the product that takes considerably more effort, also considerably worse

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I should mention, I'm doing all this without modifiers right now. I am aware that they will help in multiple fronts

thick nacelle Jul 27, 2025, 4:38 PM

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short answer modifiers make things broken good

hazy hearth Jul 27, 2025, 4:43 PM

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chilly ibex you get it from a quest i'm pretty sure

Huh?

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 4:46 PM

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you finish the mining quests and get a pickaxe like the one you showed

neat cedar Jul 27, 2025, 4:46 PM

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silent terrace Just continuing the discussion here. So with that in mind, why make a katana at ...

at it's most basic, it is just material modifiers. handles are also something you should note before I go into the modifiers. all of them boost or reduce stats by a %. in the case of the katana it has a tough rod(main handle) and tool rod(halved due to not being main handle).

You can think of material modifiers as something that only caps to as many parts a certain tool has. A sword only has THREE material modifiers slots while a katana has four. Early this is nice for things like invariant(in moderate temperatures increase damage dealt) scaling upwards with say three parts made of invar or four for an additional tier of invariant.

I believe katanas are nerfed across the board for some reason so they're really not worth using even though they give you four mat modifiers.

but as you go into ticon, if you make a cleaver from something like osloglas it'll base damage around 15-17

with it's material modifiers(extra dense) one part will increase all stats by 20% / two parts 40% / so on so forth.

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it's why the best ticon weapons are made from tool types that are 4+ parts

silent terrace Jul 27, 2025, 4:47 PM

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What would you recommend for fast attacks, i.e. the rapier from older versions

neat cedar Jul 27, 2025, 4:47 PM

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nothing

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fast attacks are not great in this pack

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you want to balance your attack speed around 1-1.5

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daggers are a good showcase of a bad weapon by virtue of it's material modifiers slots(discounting rage gloves cheese)

silent terrace Jul 27, 2025, 4:50 PM

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Gotcha and UNFORTUNATE

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I vastly prefer speed over damage XD

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Looks like dripstone will do what I'm looking for though

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 5:51 PM

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how does the metamorphium effect exactly work with its damage scaling?

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as far as i understood the damage% increases as the durability is used?

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but alot of the time youd pair it with something like activated chrome which pretty much nullifies durability use due to the electric charge

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yet I still see ppl have it at like 25%+ while the tool is at full durability

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 5:55 PM

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silent terrace I vastly prefer speed over damage XD

daggers are fun if u add desolate dagger, and max the 2 additional augments. Its amazing dps against targets with no armor, but as soon as they have even somewhat worthy of mention armor, their dps drop to near 0

silent terrace Jul 27, 2025, 5:56 PM

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fickle barn daggers are fun if u add desolate dagger, and max the 2 additional augments. Its...

That may be a smidge tricky. Can't get it without going to the nether, and my server ain't ready for that yet

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 5:56 PM

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theres a night and day difference in performance between something like a barako-bama sun chief and a tier 4 dragon when it comes to daggers

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they r one of the funnier weapons to use when its not just trolling, but it is very good idea to have a more consisted option alongside it

silent terrace Jul 27, 2025, 5:57 PM

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Suggestion for making a bow?

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 5:57 PM

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tbh i have no idea about the ticon bows

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i made a shitty one with 2 parts manasteel 1 part bismuth just so i can tag a monster with it once for the tetanus curse to then gain temporary 20% damage boost

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i think u can make decent ones with it

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but not sure if they are able to outdps a power VI ratlantean bow

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there is some ion rifles also from ticon, i think there was some talks that they might get a small damage buff (would be kinda cool, can never say no to having more competitive variance)

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 6:16 PM

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fickle barn daggers are fun if u add desolate dagger, and max the 2 additional augments. Its...

i use daggers and i'm forced to use rage glove against bosses

past drift Jul 27, 2025, 6:47 PM

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what does it mean? (better? worse?)
#🐈-github-modpacks message

pulsar lodge Jul 27, 2025, 6:53 PM

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past drift what does it mean? (better? worse?) https://discord.com/channels/640591918752858...

depends on your interpretation

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(or if you look at the commit changes)

past drift Jul 27, 2025, 6:54 PM

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well that commit isn't helpful because it only adds something new

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else I wouldn't have asked

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I don't have chromatic steel yet, so I have no idea how it compares, that's why I wanted to ask the experts in this thread ratlaugh

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 7:00 PM

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rocky stump Osgloglas Broad Blade x2 Activated Chromatic Ion Chamber Blizz Enderium Tough Ha...

how did you get the attack speed to 2.31?

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:00 PM

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It requires iridium now, way harder to get lol

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instead of nether level, it is End level now

regal eagle Jul 27, 2025, 7:02 PM

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Stockpiling- but not like it’s easy stuff to get anyway

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:25 PM

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why would adam do this to us 😭

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~~but it's not like iridium is hard to get~~

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:26 PM

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knew a nerf was coming lol just pushing it back one dimension

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 7:26 PM

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im a bit curious actually how one finds majzr enderium and the tadvanced uridium ore

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i have yet to find a single piece of either

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:26 PM

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scrying ritual after manually searching for an ore of each

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 7:26 PM

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is there some trick to finding them?

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the first ore^

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:27 PM

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i literally just gave the answer 😭

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:27 PM

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they're in the end. Iridium looks kinda whiteish so it can be hard to spot amongst the end stone. The Enderium wasn't too hard if you get the enderium finder from killing the dragon

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 7:27 PM

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ik that enderium has a compass, but idk how to get it

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:27 PM

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I found enderium inside of the islands, never on an outer face

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I got mine from killing the ender dragon, probably % drop

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:28 PM

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i've found enderium right under the surface a few times, like a single block below

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you get the locator from the dragon loot bag

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 7:28 PM

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i assume i should get silk touch?

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guess i could also try resurrect the dragon

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:28 PM

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i mean yea, to do the scrying ritual

stiff vessel Jul 27, 2025, 7:29 PM

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Or Scannables

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:29 PM

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fortune doesn't work on enderium which is kinda stupid

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speaking of enderium.....i wonder if adam would be willing to make the ingot a bit cheaper

stiff vessel Jul 27, 2025, 7:29 PM

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That would be nice

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I'm not going after dreadsteel because I don't want that smoke

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would require a needless about of lightning steel

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:31 PM

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Agree lol I feel plenty strong with my current armor so I'm not gonna go any higher probs

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:32 PM

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what are you using rn anyway

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:33 PM

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stiff vessel would require a needless about of lightning steel

adam said he had plans for dreadsteel tinker's material so have fun

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:33 PM

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ACS plate with densium maille. Rare that I take damage. Scylla got through one full health bar before I got out of line of site

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 7:33 PM

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i can't imagine making that much densium

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:34 PM

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I didn't. I found a premade densium leggins in a nether fortress, twice. Then used a part builder to break it down. 10 ingots for free

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had to up my melting setup to get something hot enough to melt it though lol

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Wonder what I should do with my 2 extra ingots lol

stiff vessel Jul 27, 2025, 7:44 PM

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vivid thunder I didn't. I found a premade densium leggins in a nether fortress, twice. Then us...

How do you use the part builder to break it down?

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:45 PM

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put a blank pattern in the far left slot, put the item in the second slot. Keep in mind that it will destroy all the other components other than the one you choose

stiff vessel Jul 27, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Doesn't work on the mob-only drops :/

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:54 PM

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stiff vessel Doesn't work on the mob-only drops :/

got this bow from a skellie and can break it down

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 7:57 PM

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vivid thunder they're in the end. Iridium looks kinda whiteish so it can be hard to spot among...

0 irdum ore 😦

stiff vessel Jul 27, 2025, 7:57 PM

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vivid thunder got this bow from a skellie and can break it down

I mean like the war pick, battle sign, etc

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 7:57 PM

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ah, yea. Some of them cannot be broken down

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 8:00 PM

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vivid thunder ah, yea. Some of them cannot be broken down

is the iridium on surfaces or do i need to clear out areas for it?

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 8:01 PM

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I found it on the surface but I bet it spawns anywhere

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 8:19 PM

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fickle barn 0 irdum ore 😦

it generates more in the lower Y levels

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 8:19 PM

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chilly ibex why would adam do this to us 😭

honestly, I fuck with it

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best trait + one of the best stats for handles = end level

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right now, imo, expert level is probably the main bulk of the content with all the bosses

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making it such that tinkers doesn't have 'easy' access to infinite durability without sacrificing a bunch looks fine

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Does this mean ACS is losing flame adaptive

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 8:26 PM

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oh hm

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 8:27 PM

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doesn't mean anything when you have infinite durability via power already, but it does sound a bit annoying

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like you forget to charge your equipment once and suddenly your armor has a green bar now lol

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but hey, iridium traits are probably in

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 8:34 PM

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what tough handle should i put on a matter manip?

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voltaic?

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hmm

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yeah i think maybe voltaic container, osglo handle, disintegrate collar, maybe a hepatizon pick axe head?

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thoughts? @chilly ibex

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oh and molten quartz as fluid

plush lava Jul 27, 2025, 9:37 PM

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has anyone tried making neutronite tools

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i tried making sword out of it and i got like 2k damage

pulsar lodge Jul 27, 2025, 9:44 PM

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plush lava has anyone tried making neutronite tools

i don't think that's a material in the base pack

plush lava Jul 27, 2025, 9:44 PM

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it is

pulsar lodge Jul 27, 2025, 9:44 PM

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tf is it from

plush lava Jul 27, 2025, 9:44 PM

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its from tinkers advance

pulsar lodge Jul 27, 2025, 9:44 PM

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oh ofc it would be tadv

plush lava Jul 27, 2025, 9:45 PM

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it might be diabled in new version of the pack i havent updated in a while

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you make it with iron in the fusion reactor

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most people dont know about it cause jei doesn't list the recipe

pulsar lodge Jul 27, 2025, 9:46 PM

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wtf

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this trait it has seems dumb

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it fires like every modifier hook level extra times when it gets fired

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oh and it fuckin makes it unbreakable effectively

plush lava Jul 27, 2025, 9:47 PM

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it did insane dps on cross bow

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and the draw speed is so slow you cant use it on bows and that laser weapon from tinkers advance

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i didnt check if the crafing procces works with the alternate reactor from better reactors so it might not even be obtainable

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 10:05 PM

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what fluid should I use with the laser gun?

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currently just using lava,

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 10:09 PM

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antimatter

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 10:24 PM

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!!!! finally

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only 2 ores Floshed

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hopefully i can find another deposit in 30 minutes ig

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:38 PM

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fickle barn thoughts? <@201151251939983361>

Osgloglas would be better for pick head right? Idk how the matter manip works exactly

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 10:38 PM

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ended up going with voltaic for head aswell

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probs not an optimal build but seems good enough for what i needed xd

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:41 PM

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You can just use lava

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 10:42 PM

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rocky stump You can just use lava

for the gun?

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:43 PM

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For the matter manipulator

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 10:44 PM

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hmm

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book says it just places fire

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:45 PM

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Where

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 10:47 PM

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quartz does say a mining level on the other hand

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:47 PM

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That's not about the matter manipulator

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 10:48 PM

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ahhh i c

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:48 PM

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unless it is, and MCE2 is just bugged

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but the matter manipulator has its own mining tier

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 10:49 PM

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damn that a rather fast mining device you got xdd

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:50 PM

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It can get way faster, probably

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I'm still pre-end

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But at some point it's too fast

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:52 PM

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i made one with similar materials and it wasn't near as fast

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i don't remember if i put haste on it though

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:53 PM

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haste is a world of difference

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:53 PM

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YOO WE GOT TINKER'S PLANNER

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emper is the goat

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 10:54 PM

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what's it do?

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:54 PM

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it basically lets you plan tools and weapons before you even make them

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 10:54 PM

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oh nice

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:54 PM

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hell yeah

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that makes optimisation wayyyyy easier

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:54 PM

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it's a blueprint button in the tinker's anvil

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it doesn't have armor planning sadly

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:55 PM

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does it let you theorycraft without having the materials on hand?

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:55 PM

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yea obviously

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that's what it's for

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:55 PM

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like, fantasy conjure antimatter out of your ass to see what its for, and add max modifiers as well

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:55 PM

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it also lets you save plans as well

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:55 PM

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or is it purely just the base weapon

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:56 PM

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wdym

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 10:56 PM

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rocky stump like, fantasy conjure antimatter out of your ass to see what its for, and add ma...

doubt you get to physically interact with it

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:56 PM

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yea, no

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 10:56 PM

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so, just the base weapon

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no modifiers

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 10:56 PM

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it's literally a UI that you can pick parts and modifiers too

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install it into your client rn and check it out @rocky stump

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if you do, it'll be a blueprint button in the tinker's anvil

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oh, it also reads custom modifiers so it's fine 🙂

dark yew Jul 27, 2025, 11:22 PM

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Are there any mining tools equally/faster mining wise, with more fortune than Maxed out mining gadget with infinite power?
Wondering if i should try to make a better tool or just stay with the laser

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 11:23 PM

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i mean, tinker's tools are better.....

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:24 PM

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rocky stump

fortune 7, infinite durability, all i'm sayin

dark yew Jul 27, 2025, 11:25 PM

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How so? I haven't used tinkers much and just pressing RMB with void/blacklist + fortune 3 + efficieny 3 and clearing out 7x7x20 hallways in 5 seconds is nice 😛
Looking for alternatives

frozen dragon Jul 27, 2025, 11:25 PM

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Whats a good cleaver design after getting into nether? I have access to manyulln and acs but not the great below ores yet

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:25 PM

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ACS handles, blizz enderium plate, manyullyn broad blade works

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replace manyullyn with osgloglas as soon as you get it

dark yew Jul 27, 2025, 11:26 PM

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rocky stump fortune 7, infinite durability, all i'm sayin

Can you point me in the direction of fortune 7 & able to lay waste to a metric fuckton of blocks in no time? 😄

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:26 PM

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matter manipulator is the tool in the vid

frozen dragon Jul 27, 2025, 11:26 PM

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rocky stump ACS handles, blizz enderium plate, manyullyn broad blade works

Okay ty

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:27 PM

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you can buff it up to 5x5, but I'm keeping mine at 3x3

frozen dragon Jul 27, 2025, 11:27 PM

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And also what modifiers would i want

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Sharpness?

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:27 PM

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depends on your build, but sharpness maxed is standard

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one fiery to double damage on enemies that aren't immune to fire

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netherite is a must

frozen dragon Jul 27, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Im prob gonna be using dragonsteel plating and acs mallie for armor

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:28 PM

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go ahead

dark yew Jul 27, 2025, 11:29 PM

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rocky stump you can buff it up to 5x5, but I'm keeping mine at 3x3

Noice, thanks! So it is the lazer, but from tinkers, cool af

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time to explore that shit 😄

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:29 PM

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dark yew Jul 27, 2025, 11:30 PM

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any idea what the tinkers client side mod is that gives you the ingame planner thing

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 11:31 PM

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chilly ibex YOO WE GOT TINKER'S PLANNER

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next update

dark yew Jul 27, 2025, 11:32 PM

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Thanks!

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forgot the 's after tinker and it didn't find it KEKW

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 11:32 PM

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i've realized there's like no master mode materials.....

vivid thunder Jul 27, 2025, 11:32 PM

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sadge

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 11:32 PM

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still pretty shitty tbh

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:33 PM

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get rid of primordial, it's eh

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 11:33 PM

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tbh i have no idea what id even put in its place xd

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:34 PM

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attack speed

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 11:34 PM

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ig 1 level of AS wouldnt be bad

rocky stump Jul 27, 2025, 11:34 PM

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what parts are you using?

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 11:35 PM

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can now get the better blade material since i found the 2 uridium ores tho

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was it also correct that u should only have 2 armor pieces with level 5 of one type of protection for maximum effect?

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i have some wet sponges so could take off 10 melees to replace w some other reinforcement

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 11:38 PM

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yea pretty much

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 11:38 PM

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probs gonna do it on hat and boots

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which reinforcement i should put?

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 11:39 PM

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80% melee prot over your whole armor set and then everything else will be revitalized for extra hp

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 11:41 PM

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so i should just replace hat and boots 5 levels of melee prot with 5 revis each?

chilly ibex Jul 27, 2025, 11:43 PM

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doesn't matter what pieces have or don't have melee prot

fickle barn Jul 27, 2025, 11:43 PM

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oh, the diamond apples are this cheap

worthy monolith Jul 28, 2025, 2:45 AM

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My current pre hard mode Weapon is there anything elses im able to do before fighting the eternal invasion gateway

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 2:49 AM

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cobalt is technically expert mode

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but looks fine....should put more sharp

worthy monolith Jul 28, 2025, 2:51 AM

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i would but i ran out of upgrade slots and nothing seems too easy to get

turbid palm Jul 28, 2025, 2:52 AM

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Can someone tell me what i should put on this (blizz enderium maile)? Im a complete noob.

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 2:54 AM

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bit of melee protection and a lot of revitalized

turbid palm Jul 28, 2025, 2:54 AM

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I see

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 4:16 AM

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Pewter, Stibnite, and Antimony are new right?

neat cedar Jul 28, 2025, 4:19 AM

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wait i thought metamorphium was tool exclusive

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this might be insane

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actually

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extra dense might be better i dont feel like sitting on a cactus for ten hours

mellow mason Jul 28, 2025, 4:42 AM

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austere oar Pewter, Stibnite, and Antimony are new right?

Yes

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at least in terms of tinkers, if that's what you're asking

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 4:55 AM

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Oh I meant in this update, I don't remember any of them

mellow mason Jul 28, 2025, 4:55 AM

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yeah they weren't tinker's materials before

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 4:55 AM

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I swear the bismuth art changed too

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Oh pewter is added by tcon update, others are tinkers advanced (I think?). idk why but I wasn't expecting a new material in base tinkers.

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(rip anyone with a bunch of lead and tin in their smelter btw)

pulsar lodge Jul 28, 2025, 5:05 AM

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pewter would already alloy in the smeltery ratlaugh

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now you can use it tho

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 5:05 AM

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oh okay that's why I never saw the part before

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Also dang rip on activated chromatic steel it's what's been saving my butt with these cataclysm bosses

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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new alloys?

pulsar lodge Jul 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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nah

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chromasteel got a new ingredient

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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what was mentioned above then...?

pulsar lodge Jul 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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oh

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yeah there are some new materials

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from mod updates

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 5:09 AM

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i assumed as much but how good are they though 🤔

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they sound early game

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 5:30 AM

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Damn, they gave the boss materials good uses now

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After I spent it all on the shitty ones

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lel

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Tinkers wise nothing new it seems

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For late game at least

marble zenith Jul 28, 2025, 5:59 AM

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What are good armor upgrades? crocodile? or just kinda whatever you want? crocodile seems good if it stacks

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 6:00 AM

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Crocodile is good

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Haste on pants, if your Armor doesn't have infinite durability/mending, get that

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Respiration/Water breathing on helmet is always nice

marble zenith Jul 28, 2025, 6:01 AM

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sounds good thanks

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 6:02 AM

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It didn't seem to stat increase on my armour but I already had diamond/netherite

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it did increase swim speed

marble zenith Jul 28, 2025, 6:02 AM

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i have inf dura since i have chromatic

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 6:04 AM

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Also does the update mean that best armour pre-master is dragonsteel plate + shadowsilk/blazing netherite/blitz luminum now that activated chrome is off the table?

marble zenith Jul 28, 2025, 6:04 AM

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why is activated chrom off?

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 6:04 AM

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needs iridium now

marble zenith Jul 28, 2025, 6:04 AM

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oh rip

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what about people who aalready have it?

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we safe???

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 6:05 AM

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yeah. I'm just weird in that I want to challenge myself to use what I'm supposed to

marble zenith Jul 28, 2025, 6:06 AM

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fair

neat cedar Jul 28, 2025, 6:23 AM

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they changed acs to need iridium???

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how much

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is it the 4 alloys + iri?

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 6:24 AM

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took out blazing netherite replaced with iridium

neat cedar Jul 28, 2025, 6:25 AM

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is it an ingot or same 3-3-3-3 ratio?

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 6:25 AM

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3-3-3-3

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still 2720 degrees too

eternal flame Jul 28, 2025, 6:34 AM

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i saw someone here say the best armor is all dragonsteel plate, 1 protocite, 1 ACS, 1 iridium, 1 whatever maille, is that still valid? Or is there a better combo of armor materials

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 6:36 AM

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hmm that's a good idea on mixing mailles

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I might do Antimony, Blitz lumium, Blizz enderium, and Basaltz Signalium mailles to be immune to all the thing + use blazing netherite plates

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budget activated chrome

eternal flame Jul 28, 2025, 6:37 AM

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im at endgame so i might use antimatter for my last maille piece

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just for the flex

last lintel Jul 28, 2025, 6:37 AM

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eternal flame just for the flex

so real

eternal flame Jul 28, 2025, 6:38 AM

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been making stuff for the SPS and realized i made excess pultonium so protocite could be a good use for it

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are there any effects of ACS that requires multiple pieces or do i receive the full benefits of it with just 1 piece

mellow mason Jul 28, 2025, 7:17 AM

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eternal flame i saw someone here say the best armor is all dragonsteel plate, 1 protocite, 1 A...

objectively best armor ignoring cost is probably all empowered acs (assuming you can afford the power), except one antimatter maille for the explosion and fire immunity

eternal flame Jul 28, 2025, 7:18 AM

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does the effect of acs stack? I personally think protocite could be useful since it makes you immune to debuffs

mellow mason Jul 28, 2025, 7:20 AM

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The 'negates 20% damage' thing likely does stack (at least, i'm assuming it does, because the antimatter 25% one stacks), and nothing comes even close to that in terms of strength
Only scenario i can imagine anything else being useful at far endgame is maybe that debuff thing if you're ever coming across brutal debuffs like ignis's armor deletion, but idk that doesn't seem too common

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 7:21 AM

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ACS should stack, yeah, and you also use it for power durability, which is on a per-piece basis

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that being said the fire/lightning/ice immunity probably works with 1 piece

eternal flame Jul 28, 2025, 7:22 AM

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hmm i dont think ive been using the ACS' damage negation ability. I have it on rainbow mode but i have not fed it power in a long time

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I've been surviving fine still

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im running a vampire build so i thought the protocite could be useful in negating the weakness during the day

past drift Jul 28, 2025, 12:03 PM

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well well, TC itself got updated by several version, so you have new and changed materials to account for in the sheet ratlaugh

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here are relevant changelogs:
0: [the old version we were on]
1: https://github.com/SlimeKnights/TinkersConstruct/releases/tag/v3.10.0.67
2: https://github.com/SlimeKnights/TinkersConstruct/releases/tag/v3.10.1.76
3: https://github.com/SlimeKnights/TinkersConstruct/releases/tag/v3.10.2.92 <- the version we're now on

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it's quite a lot

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:33 PM

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austere oar Also does the update mean that best armour pre-master is dragonsteel plate + sha...

wdym chromatic steel is off the table

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:37 PM

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chilly ibex wdym chromatic steel is off the table

ACS is gated behind end now, no?

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:38 PM

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that changes it HOW exactly though?

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why would it be off the table

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:38 PM

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"best armour pre-master"

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master is end

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pre master means pre end

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:38 PM

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oh, didn't fully read it

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i know it means damn pre-end

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 3:43 PM

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wait isnt' master technically after the dragon specifically?
you can still yeet yourself off the island until you find the rest of the end and get resources that way pre-master

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unless there's something that prevents you from doing that, haven't gone there myself yet

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:44 PM

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the end is TECHNICALLY counted as master

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like, even if you have the means to skip the dragon fight

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~~which you probably shouldn't either way~~

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 3:44 PM

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ye but skipping the dragon wouldn't advance your player difficulty right?

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:45 PM

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right but there's no reason TO skip the dragon fight

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 3:45 PM

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i know xD i'm just a rat and if i can get around the "intended way" i will

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:46 PM

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i know pewter is one of the new materials but i don't remember the others...

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:46 PM

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pre-master now I'd reckon we go dragonsteel + blizz enderium for pure stats, and get unbreakable/mending elsewhere

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as for tools, blizz enderium 100% to retain frost plating

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not sure how you're getting mending/unbreakable covered for this though

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:49 PM

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that'd be easy?

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 3:49 PM

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can parts be swapped after a piece of armor has been made?
like can i recover acs maile from a piece and slot in something else?

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:50 PM

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you can't "recover" a part, but you can scrap the whole thing for that one piece

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you CAN replace parts but you'll lose whatever you're replacing

carmine fractal Jul 28, 2025, 3:50 PM

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You can get both pieces if it has full durability

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:50 PM

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chilly ibex that'd be easy?

via what for tools? sucking up upgrade slots for reinforced and unbreaking?

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:50 PM

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what other upgrades would you realistically use?

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:51 PM

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tools have a premium on upgrades, no

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for weapon, sharpnest, attack speed, netherite, everything

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:51 PM

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melee prot and revitalized are defense

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:51 PM

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damn, you read wrongly again

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I'm talking tools

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not armor

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armor has novice mending anyways

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:51 PM

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i thought you were still talking armor

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:52 PM

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yeah, tools now

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do we just suck it up and make osgloglas repair kits

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matter manip is infinite durability at least

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:52 PM

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i mean, osgloglas isn't TOO hard to get a bunch of

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but needing it for multiple tools

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:52 PM

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yup

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:53 PM

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and the extra dense reduces repairability

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:53 PM

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with matter manip mining and a decent power gen you could probably just stock up on osgloglas repair kits

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at least weapons don't need that much repairing

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:53 PM

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yea

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:53 PM

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pickaxe with disintegrate binding is gonna kill itself though lel

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:53 PM

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what was the 3rd new material for tinker's? pewter, stibnite, and what

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 3:54 PM

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no clue, I did a quick glance and nothing looked special

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 3:54 PM

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stibnite looks shit

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pewter isn't BAD because it's basically more damage at low hp

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just looked up neutronite and uh....

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 4:30 PM

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chilly ibex just looked up neutronite and uh....

my laptop when i try to play with shaders on KEK

vital crypt Jul 28, 2025, 4:34 PM

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im wondering if dragonsteel tinkers armor is better than normal dragonsteel armor

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 4:38 PM

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depends what you combine the tinkers version with i think

mellow mason Jul 28, 2025, 4:38 PM

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Tinkers dragonsteel is generally better, at least if you max out the defense slots

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 4:40 PM

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vital crypt im wondering if dragonsteel tinkers armor is better than normal dragonsteel armo...

it really is

wind flower Jul 28, 2025, 5:29 PM

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chilly ibex just looked up neutronite and uh....

its impossible to get neutronite i think

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with the better fusion reactor mod

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(its also insanely broken if you get it)

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 5:31 PM

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why is it impossible? what's the requirement?

wind flower Jul 28, 2025, 5:31 PM

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throw iron into the heart of a fusion reactor

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which the better fusion reactor either completely breaks it or replaces the event needed in the fusion reactor

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 5:34 PM

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sounds like a fun process if it works AeHypers

austere oar Jul 28, 2025, 6:33 PM

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lol This update made me finally reassess the pre nether armor I made, then slapped activated chrome on and called it good.

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Thank god I brought all the alligator turtles home so I could easily re-add the water breating lol (and that I brought an extra crocodile home I found)

real knoll Jul 28, 2025, 7:18 PM

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wind flower its impossible to get neutronite i think

Heh, it shouldn't be impossible anymore with bfr, as I actually managed to get the dev for it to implement the tinker's advanced functionality and bfr got updated with the update
Tho I do actually have to test it still as the server I play on hasn't updated yet so I haven't confirmed it works to close the GitHub report

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 7:24 PM

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someone was able to earlier

worthy monolith Jul 28, 2025, 7:42 PM

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worthy monolith My current pre hard mode Weapon is there anything elses im able to do before fig...

ok now its prehardmode materials and its .75 better but slightly slower attack speed

mighty lintel Jul 28, 2025, 8:08 PM

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My server is still on the old version and I finally got enough Chromatic steel. Last time I asked, I got two conflicting answers, what part should be CS from the armor, the maille or the armor part? and what should be the other part? - still only nether, no the great below yet

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 8:09 PM

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depends what other materials you have, if you have a bunch of leftover blizz enderium, use ACS for plating

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if you have anything better (like dragonsteel), use it for maille

mighty lintel Jul 28, 2025, 8:10 PM

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I have blizz enderium left, but no dragonsteel or anything like that.
So its blizz enderium for maille and acs for plating then?

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 8:10 PM

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yea

mighty lintel Jul 28, 2025, 8:13 PM

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tyty

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Should my cleaver be acs aswell?

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 8:19 PM

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either handle or plate, preferrably plate

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i wouldn't use ACS for the blade

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:27 PM

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is there any plating better than dragonsteel? pre-master preferably, or even after to know what to work towards

chilly ibex Jul 28, 2025, 8:29 PM

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dragonsteel is really the best, unless you want to go through mekanism to get antimatter

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:31 PM

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huge AeHypers
can hard commit then until endgame

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 8:38 PM

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whats everyones recommended weapons for expert for hunting dragons, armor would be appreciated too

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:39 PM

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i just upgraded the other day to two tcon swords with osgloglas blade, acs handle and manyulin handle on both weapons

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 8:40 PM

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with the dual attack upgrade thing?

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:40 PM

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haven't had the time to add a lot of upgrades yet but have 2 lvls of sharpness

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 8:40 PM

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or is that just useless

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:40 PM

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i don't know what the dual attack thing is

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 8:41 PM

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do you just use normal swords?

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:41 PM

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yup just the basic sword format that has one blad and two handle pieces

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 8:42 PM

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okay, thanks!

mighty lintel Jul 28, 2025, 8:43 PM

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How can I load the ACS Armor? Is there an Item I can add to my inventory to always fuel it with energy?

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 8:46 PM

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what mode should it be in?

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:46 PM

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i just use one of those batteries from thermal, i don't remember what it's called.
You can upgrade it with a component and flux upgrade to get like 18M fe capacity

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:46 PM

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pearl lion what mode should it be in?

i think i use activated? i always forget, it's the one that has the ranged slash anyway

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 8:47 PM

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thank you again!

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:48 PM

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mighty lintel How can I load the ACS Armor? Is there an Item I can add to my inventory to alwa...

flux capacitor from thermal, it's quite cheap and easy to upgrade

mighty lintel Jul 28, 2025, 8:48 PM

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nice, tyty

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 8:48 PM

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can also enchant it with holding to boost the capacity by a lot depending on the level

mighty lintel Jul 28, 2025, 9:05 PM

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Nice, thank you :) Now I probably need a better power source than stirling generators xD

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 9:09 PM

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Probably ye lol, a few magmatic are doing more than fine for me, don't have the armor yet but weapons and tools are easy to upkeep

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 9:10 PM

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im using magmatic dynamos with a lava farm

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and its not bad

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I made a create tank to store excess lava

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wanna get into ethynol but damn desh

dreamy ore Jul 28, 2025, 9:11 PM

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Wasn't the recipe for NASA workbench changed to be pre end?

pulsar lodge Jul 28, 2025, 9:11 PM

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yes

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 9:11 PM

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at least not in the update im doing

pulsar lodge Jul 28, 2025, 9:12 PM

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it was just changed in 1.1.1.0

pearl lion Jul 28, 2025, 9:12 PM

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guess I'll need to update both server and clients

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not a fan of doing that

mighty lintel Jul 28, 2025, 9:16 PM

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Okay last question for today: What should my cleaver look like? I do have ACS and all the stuff it contains, but was not yet in the great below or the end (still playing on the patch before the newest)

rocky stump Jul 28, 2025, 9:42 PM

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personal preference based on attack and attack speed, but ^

dreamy ore Jul 29, 2025, 1:29 AM

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the "dragon scales" tinker modifier just says increased protection from dragon breath attack, does that mean all types or only the one used for the armor?

chilly ibex Jul 29, 2025, 1:31 AM

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dreamy ore the "dragon scales" tinker modifier just says increased protection from dragon b...

for ice and fire dragons

dreamy ore Jul 29, 2025, 1:32 AM

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so increased protection from fire breath for fire armor and opposite for ice?

chilly ibex Jul 29, 2025, 1:34 AM

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it's universal

dreamy ore Jul 29, 2025, 1:34 AM

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huge, ty

pearl lion Jul 29, 2025, 4:05 AM

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any good hammers for just strip mining

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easy to repair, if possible

last lintel Jul 29, 2025, 4:06 AM

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pearl lion easy to repair, if possible

Stone Head rosegold parts, and spam redstone

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repair with stone

pearl lion Jul 29, 2025, 4:06 AM

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alright, all rose gold parts? besides the head

last lintel Jul 29, 2025, 4:06 AM

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yea

worn roost Jul 29, 2025, 4:07 AM

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Is this for normal? I just used slime steel because I had so much

pearl lion Jul 29, 2025, 4:09 AM

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I just want something fast and just brainless to repair

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im in expert, farming up for dragonsteel

worn roost Jul 29, 2025, 4:10 AM

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What’s everyone’s go armour and cleaver build for pre-end

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What are the mode namings again. I’m not on pc and can’t see the top post without scrolling. Normal, expert and what else?

pulsar lodge Jul 29, 2025, 4:11 AM

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Normal, Expert, Master

worn roost Jul 29, 2025, 4:11 AM

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Thanks

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Okay, I’m expert then. Currently have a full set of netherite armour with prot v unbrraking v, thorns 3 and mending. Want to move to something tinkers or ars if anyone has any recommendations please.

vivid thunder Jul 29, 2025, 4:15 AM

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any of the blaze-like mobs have good armors, blaze netherite is kinda GOATed for clearing nether mobs

worn roost Jul 29, 2025, 4:16 AM

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Okay cool. I pretty much have endless prot books. Should I just make a blaze netherite set and have a different set for overworld?

vivid thunder Jul 29, 2025, 4:18 AM

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honestly, aside from bosses, there aren't a lot of mobs in the overworld that require heavy protection. I went from Diamond to Blaze Netherite to Activated Chromatic Steel without any other special armors. Also, you cannot enchant Tinkers gear, you use ability modifiers instead

worn roost Jul 29, 2025, 4:23 AM

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Awesome thanks. Yeah, that’s why I just went for netherite, it’s what I already knew how to do lol. What else should I pair with my kit for combat? I have heard rage glove and healing spell thrown around but have no idea how to use them. Any help would be appreciated.

vivid thunder Jul 29, 2025, 4:25 AM

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Kinda tailored to your playstyle. Personally, I focused on high mobility and vamprism abilties. Iron's teleport spell mixed with Vamp regen and survivability abilities.
Rage glove is alright, it was rebalanced this patch so it is not multi billions of damage

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Iron's is pretty OP for combat with stuff like Heartstop and Oakskin

silent terrace Jul 29, 2025, 2:40 PM

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So how do you get steel in this? I've tried the methods in JEI but it just makes more iron. Even the chain set does

last lintel Jul 29, 2025, 2:41 PM

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silent terrace So how do you get steel in this? I've tried the methods in JEI but it just makes...

Smelting PNC steel (I think) and Smleting chainmail down in a foundry.

silent terrace Jul 29, 2025, 2:43 PM

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Oooooh I see the issue

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You straight up can't get it in a smeltery, it needs to be a foundry

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that. Is deeply inconvenient

past drift Jul 29, 2025, 2:44 PM

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compressed iron in vanilla blast furnace

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but from what I can see steel has the exact same values as manasteel, so to me it doesn't seem worth it at all atm

last lintel Jul 29, 2025, 2:51 PM

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#🐈-github-modpacks message

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Osmium buff

rocky stump Jul 29, 2025, 2:53 PM

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past drift but from what I can see steel has the exact same values as manasteel, so to me i...

not quite, manasteel has been nerfed to not have ductile, which is huge for weapons

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for armor, lower toughness as well

past drift Jul 29, 2025, 2:54 PM

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I know, but besides the trait difference the numbers are the exact same (at least according the JEI entries)

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but we now have the TC planner, which is pretty cool, except that for some reason it doesn't work with armor?

rocky stump Jul 29, 2025, 2:55 PM

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past drift I know, but besides the trait difference the numbers are the exact same (at leas...

trait impacts the resultant stats directly, ductile is a straight stat buff

rocky stump Jul 29, 2025, 3:39 PM

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has anyone tested how much extra damage irradium does with trait

silent terrace Jul 29, 2025, 3:42 PM

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Out of curiosity, how do you put liquid into a swasher

dreamy ore Jul 29, 2025, 4:54 PM

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If it's the same as other tools you can right click a tank onto it in your inventory or right click with it on a tank in world

quiet quest Jul 29, 2025, 8:54 PM

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What are some of the best armor mods? And materials to craft armor from? I am looking for durability/usefull effects/health I don’t really need armor as am currently a vampire and it’s kinda useless to me

chilly ibex Jul 29, 2025, 9:06 PM

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armor with ACS would still be useful...also revitalized gives a shit ton of health

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:06 PM

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i just realiced they nerved acs in the new patch 🙁

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:07 PM

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I wish they werent so nerf-heavy on armor considering how often youre in oneshot territory even with the best armor available

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:08 PM

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what do you guys use for long range pre end?

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:08 PM

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i dont bother with ranged

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its not any good outside of end tier materials

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the create guns might be decent early nether?

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:09 PM

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im killing the bosses for the end eyes and i just keep getting oneshotted so i thought range would help

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:09 PM

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nothing ranged does enough damage to be worth doing

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your best bet is stacking iron's spells to survive

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what armor are you using rn?

whole elm Jul 29, 2025, 10:10 PM

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I mean some of the items needed to be nerfed as they made fights incredibly trivial - rage glove and vampire glove come to mind

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:11 PM

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I mean yeah, thats fair. but i mean the constant nerfing of armor and defense when youre already very easily oneshot

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:11 PM

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carmine fractal what armor are you using rn?

i currently use dragon scale with prot 4
i dont have enought for the forge

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:11 PM

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you need to invest in tinkers armor to survive the nether. any other armor dosent have nearly enough protection to keep you alive

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:12 PM

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what armor should i go for?

whole elm Jul 29, 2025, 10:12 PM

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I think a large part of the issue is knowing what type of damage is being done.. like before I stopped playing I had a full set of acs with max melee res and even the warden in the overworld couldn't touch me

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:12 PM

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vital crypt what armor should i go for?

depends on your stage of progression

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are you pre nether? mid nether?

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:13 PM

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carmine fractal are you pre nether? mid nether?

i pretty much finished nether im collecting the eyes for the end atm

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:14 PM

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at that point, dragonsteel plating with blizz enderium maille(was ACS maille prior to it getting both nerfed and gated behind the end) is the best possible armor pre-end

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blaze netherite plating is a good stepping stone to that, however, as getting dragonsteel is time consuming

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it has high armor toughness and is self repairing

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:15 PM

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carmine fractal at that point, dragonsteel plating with blizz enderium maille(was ACS maille pri...

well i just dont have enough scales for the forge nor dragon blood
in my world there are like 0 dragons

whole elm Jul 29, 2025, 10:16 PM

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I wouldnt be surprised if one of the main reasons ACS got nerfed was because it could bypass darkness in the great below

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:16 PM

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yeah dragon spawns are insanely rare for how many dragons you gotta butcher to even start making dragonsteel

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:16 PM

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carmine fractal yeah dragon spawns are insanely rare for how many dragons you gotta butcher to e...

alot
i need alot of scales still

whole elm Jul 29, 2025, 10:16 PM

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I mean once you're at the point you need scales you should have no problem traveling around

vital crypt Jul 29, 2025, 10:16 PM

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i only got like 60 scales

carmine fractal Jul 29, 2025, 10:17 PM

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with caves disabled, theres no good way to hunt down dragons

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