MCE2 Sneak Peek Discussion

[mild basin]

Next thing is to figure out how to add changes for new quests...

[digital yacht]

is this the log from the server?

[steel glacier]

does the map not update in caves?

[digital yacht]

oh huh, I'm not sure what I am looking at lol

[digital yacht]

you can change the Y level that the mini map is looking at

[steel glacier]

but it doesnt auto update as i go down

[digital yacht]

might need to tweak the settings. There is a lot of stuff in this mini map mod

[mild basin]

Go into the Block Overlay settings in xaero's

[pastel atlas]

from my game

[mild basin]

Don't remember exactly but it's like Cave Layering or something like that

[digital yacht]

nothing in there specifically says why the server rejected you. The error message doesn't look normal, are you using Essentials or something similar?

[mild basin]

Yea, just mc being dumb

[pastel atlas]

Nothing

I haven't modified anything

But the server owner already told me is the server crashing

Something is crashing the server

[mild basin]

Well, doesn't seem to be you

[digital yacht]

just never seen this before in a log

[mild basin]

That's the normal log, not a crash log

[digital yacht]

it's the one they sent. Probably server issues then

[mild basin]

It's common to have ingame text chat in there

Yea

[gritty badger]

so cool

this is awsome some tests

[mild basin]

It's worse than it looks

Wonder if anyone's tried cheesing it in any way

CIAB with jump boost 2 could probably do it

[gritty badger]

yea double jump helps

[pastel atlas]

The problem in multiplayer is we need feedback from server owners and they need to report directly here on discord to help the devs undestand what's going on, if is a problem for every server or just a singular problem.

[mild basin]

the only problem the server i'm on is getting is random lag spikes

[digital yacht]

My server runs perfectly smooth, only time I restart it is for pack updates. 7GB RAM, 3-5 players online typically. Pregenned 4k blocks in each direction

[tight pawn]

Hey can someone take a look at this log for me, weird stuff going on here

[flint egret]

You got me

[mild basin]

that log looks very suspicious to me.....

[digital yacht]

anyone know good ways to get netherite/ancient debris early in the nether journey? The unique mobs kinda kick my butt in full diamond so I am just mining for now

at some point I assume I need to make armor with higher toughness values

[mild basin]

Find a pyromancer tower and throw the ancient knight at the top in a drygmy farm

[digital yacht]

that's where they are! I was looing for that mob lol

can I find it with the explorer compass?

[mild basin]

I'm here with prot 5 dreadsteel and dying to random mobs

No

You can only search for major structures like bosses with explorer's compass

[digital yacht]

ah gotcha

[digital yacht]

yea but the fire zombies eat my booty 24/7

[mild basin]

You can also find knights in the nether in ancient battlegrounds

[small flare]

Just curious, is there a way to reset the skill tree?

[digital yacht]

anything you can do with these? Pressing U doesn't show anything in JEI

[rose fern]

thats also how I did it but it seems to farm so slow. Way slower than the other mobs Im farming with drygmy

[digital yacht]

25% drop rate to get 1

going to be slow

[rose fern]

I know its 25% but even compared to other mobs Im farming it seems way less than 1 4th the drops

[mild basin]

i'm not familiar with that mod

it's for iron spell's though

[digital yacht]

they're drops from the ancient knight though

I think?

[mild basin]

yea

it can be dropped from a few different mobs iirc

[mild basin]

the more mobs you have in your drygmy farm, the faster they'll produce items

you need a variety though, so it's recommended to not have more than 1 of the same mob because it's more RNG than anything which mobs the drygmys will pull from

my current drygmy farm has about 8 jars, 2 or 3 of them are bosses

[digital yacht]

Me with my 15+ jars of random things because I was interested in what would happen lol

[mild basin]

i mean, the more the merrier....i wouldn't add THAT many though

[digital yacht]

I haven't seen any diminishing returns. I am getting a ton of drops from all the jars

[mild basin]

even 8 is a lot for a drygmy farm, but i also have like 10 actual drygmy

[digital yacht]

plague doctor wondered in too

this is with 4 drygmy and a 2 tier melon farm only

[mild basin]

in reality, i'd only need like, 3 or 4

i recently swapped from pumpkins to a full create setup for infinite lava

[digital yacht]

seems pretty op even if it's "suboptimal"

[mild basin]

agronomic sourcelink is considered the worst but throw a bunch of pumpkins/melons and it's pretty good imo

[digital yacht]

I was setting up a create tree farm to make infinite charcoal for my endoflame botania farm. Although I have enough gun powder to do the TnT based one

It's honestly not bad. I have been making T3 enchants and it only takes about 5-10 minutes of source generation, maybe less, to fill up the jar

[mild basin]

i'd say volcanic is the best, a single coal block fills up a source jar over half

[digital yacht]

hmmmm, maybe I will do that then with create charcoal farm

bulk blasting seems easy

[mild basin]

charcoal blocks might be the same, never tried it though

[digital yacht]

they burn the same, yea

[mild basin]

well right, but a lava bucket burns more than a coal block, doesn't it?

[digital yacht]

by about 20 items iirc, yep

[mild basin]

yea, but a lava bucket fills up a source jar by about 20%

[digital yacht]

I just already have the tree farm setup

[mild basin]

i'd assume charcoal block = coal block for a source jar though

[digital yacht]

maybe Ars uses a different calc. A charcoal/coal block burns 80 items and a lava bucket burns 100

[mild basin]

probably

alchemic is also pretty good if you have a good potion system for complex potions

[digital yacht]

I need to make a precision mechanism setup so that I can make some of the servos for thermal series stuff

[mild basin]

what are you thinking of making?

i had to make servos for something, i don't remember

[digital yacht]

A vacuumulator with a filter to grab the charcoal off of the bulk blasting setup

aqeuos accumulator for something else I was working on but forgot what

[mild basin]

ah, could just use a hopper chest and use mekanisms's cable to transport

[digital yacht]

I don't have osmium yet

[mild basin]

you don't need osmium for cables

[digital yacht]

haven't gone to deepdark yet

[mild basin]

not the basic ones at least

[digital yacht]

osmium needed

[mild basin]

oh right

i forget about the circuits lmfao

[digital yacht]

I've been using logistic cables from integrated dynamics

they kinda OP

[silent trail]

I'm using mycelical - i automated mana rolls with Create

[digital yacht]

like this for auto smeltery stuff

[gleaming torrent]

Nerfing the problematic mekanisms is one thing, nerfing everyting including pipes is too much.

You can use Ender Io Conduits for moveing stuff around .

[digital yacht]

Conduit and logic cables are probably pretty similar

[mild basin]

i just used vanilla hoppers for those...

[digital yacht]

I just already had the infrastructure for integrated dynamics

[digital yacht]

I built the house and stuff before setting up the smeltery, I can't really dig into the floor

[mild basin]

fair

[digital yacht]

My house is a bit of a maze that ever expands

[mild basin]

mine looks jank but it's fine 🙂

[digital yacht]

so the floors and ceilings have to be untouched

[rose fern]

Anyone else having/had trouble with the new update?

[mild basin]

like.....what

gotta be specific

[digital yacht]

server and client updated fine, no issues here

[rose fern]

I get invalid player data

[mild basin]

that's your own game 😭 not the modpack

or the server if you're on one

[rose fern]

both trouble on server and single player

after update

[mild basin]

close out of your game and whatever mod loader you're using

and then open it all back up

usually fixes the issue

[rose fern]

lets try

but I heard other friends also had trouble when I was away

[digital yacht]

Could try making a new profile/redownloading the pack

[mild basin]

if it's not the same issue, then be specific about "having trouble"

[sharp crystal]

Hey Traylon how was the process for creating the Ars questline? I’m not programming savvy or anything so not sure how technical it is but would love to give it a try 🤔

[rose fern]

server keeps crashing, idk the reason

on single player I get invalid player data

[digital yacht]

the server has a crash logs folder and latest.log and debug.log in the logs folder

[mild basin]

uhhh well, i spent about 6-7 hours making the quests and then most of that next day fixing issues and adding in other quests like optionals or explanations for things

[rose fern]

server owner is away rn and sicne I also have trouble in single player I thougth I come for that first

[mild basin]

honestly if you're still having issues even AFTER restarting everything, it might be the auth servers?

that'd be my best guess

especially in singleplayer

[rose fern]

wdym the auth servers?\

[mild basin]

it's basically a check for the servers themselves to tell if a client is premium

in other words, buying the game instead of trying to pirate it

[digital yacht]

possible

[sharp crystal]

Do you have a screenshot of your full quest line? Not at my pc rn but would like an example 🙂

[mild basin]

you shouldn't pirate games

[mild basin]

there's more stuff to be added but this is what's there currently

[flint egret]

the ui is 0% programming and all visual

[mild basin]

i uploaded a bunch of fixes to the github

thanks to emper and a bit of help from garlicbread, i was able to get it finished 😭 github is awful tbh but i get how good it is for sharing files and other coding stuff

[rose fern]

it takes some getting used to

[mild basin]

i was getting no where with github's own FAQ's

[rose fern]

I can understand that

[mild basin]

but yea, i spent multiple hours going through each quest and making sure everything was consistent.....i'll be upset if there's still something missing or wrong

[rose fern]

well my singleplayer atleast loads so I will check it 😝

[mild basin]

my OCD and anxiety won't allow for it

the fixes i uploaded aren't in the pack yet

waiting for adam to check it over and confirm the merge

[rose fern]

which part did ytou change?

[mild basin]

a couple quests were missing entire descriptions which was my biggest mistake. other than that was a lot of inconsistencies with grammar, like "Spell Book" and "Spellbook"....

i may or may not be 1% dyslexic, i've never been diagnosed with it though 😭

[sharp crystal]

I get what you mean 😂 I look over my work over and over and constantly make little tweaks and revisions until I’m happy with it

[mild basin]

it should all be good once all of those changes are pushed to the main pack but uh....if anyone manages to catch something i still missed, please tell me 😭

[digital yacht]

that feeling when I had an entire college course where the professor taught us git from scratch lol

[mild basin]

lmao

[digital yacht]

even with knowledge, it is not really simple to use. It is a good implementation for actual code projects though but this isn't exactly like that

[mild basin]

yea i can see that

[rose fern]

Good questline

some small things I would change only

[mild basin]

finally getting into AE2 and have flawless certus blocks but the annihilation plane isn't working, and i've used it so many times...

[gleaming torrent]

@bold forge this is exactly why I think the image is useful.

[gleaming torrent]

Show/Tell me when ur doing

[mild basin]

oh now it works when i remove the filter from the storage bus....

[gleaming torrent]

what filter did you have?

[mild basin]

well, not a filter but

[gleaming torrent]

Yeah thats fine

[mild basin]

right

[gleaming torrent]

it not working with the bus like that?

[mild basin]

nope

[gleaming torrent]

huh

[mild basin]

that's where i'm confused

i've used it so many times

[bold forge]

it was a fully grown cluster?

[gleaming torrent]

^

[mild basin]

been sitting here for a while

[gleaming torrent]

Yeah that grown

You cant even blacklist toggle without an upgrade so idk why its being cringe

[mild basin]

maybe putting a fuzzy card would do something?

[gleaming torrent]

Try inverter card + Quartz dust

[digital yacht]

how do you use these?

[mild basin]

combine with other accessories

[mild basin]

nada

[digital yacht]

ahh I see

[mild basin]

@gleaming torrent it'll collect the dust just fine

[gleaming torrent]

is its nbt bad maybe, Try pulling an Quartz Crystal from JEI into the filter

[mild basin]

i also tried doing drawers instead of the chest

[gleaming torrent]

i haven o clue

[digital yacht]

I made that setup before on a TNP pack. I think I used a formatted cell instead of a chest

[mild basin]

the plane collected it when i broke the cluster manually 🤔

[digital yacht]

I would need to spin up that server and pack rq, I can do it

[gleaming torrent]

im loading up an world to check it out

[digital yacht]

nvm my TNP server is gone

[mild basin]

i've used drawers and chests and all have worked when i did it but nothing here

[digital yacht]

does it need power?

[gleaming torrent]

its reciving it from the accelerator,

[mild basin]

you can power the plane by connecting to the accelerators with resonance generators underneath

the fluix cables transfer power themselves

[rose fern]

Wouldnt it be better to have the spawner quest after the wilden quest?

[mild basin]

nah, the apparatus unlocks most of the features that the imbuement chamber doesn't

i think it's fine there

[rose fern]

but if someone new sees it and wants to make it they wouldnt even know what rituals are at that point

[mild basin]

hm, fair point 🤔 i DID make the spawner quest optional though

like, it's not necessary at all but nice to have

same with the trinkets pouch and the shady wizard

[rose fern]

I agree its nice to have in the questbook so people learn about it

but maybe in the questline when youre able to make it

[mild basin]

i get what you're saying though, i'll think about it

[rose fern]

optional conntected to the wilden would be nice. New players can work towards it

[gleaming torrent]

It's working fine for me @mild basin, dunno whats going on in ur side

[mild basin]

hrr

AE2 hates me

[gleaming torrent]

filthy magic user is not allowed near tech

[mild basin]

yea, it's collecting dust just fine

[gleaming torrent]

Mabye cuz it's enchanted?

[digital yacht]

it should work while enchanted

[gleaming torrent]

yeah

[mild basin]

yea

[bold forge]

does it require more power while enchanted

or something

[mild basin]

not that i know of? garlic would probably know that

[bold forge]

actually if it boosts the drops, the quantity of items gathered would be higher

[gleaming torrent]

it should us emore power yeah

[gleaming torrent]

maybe it produces dust when fortuned?

but like that makes noe sense

[bold forge]

the loot tables in the source imply it does not

but if it yields more items, then it surely requires more power to draw them in?

[mild basin]

you right

i just need extra power going into it

swapped it for a normal plane

[gleaming torrent]

So the problem was that it needed more power or that fortune was bugging it?

[mild basin]

more power

[bold forge]

the code does seem to imply that more items dropped will draw more power
https://github.com/AppliedEnergistics/Applied-Energistics-2/blob/8bbd8a6bd2aa983d1e91180547eebd1f6ad2aa25/src/main/java/appeng/parts/automation/ItemPickupStrategy.java#L105

so fortune was making the item count high enough to bring the required power over the maximum network energy capacity

[gleaming torrent]

ahhh

[digital yacht]

good thing for me to keep in mind when I make my setup

I almost am to cardboard boxes and found a flawless cluster

[mild basin]

how do i make it to where one mines the dust, and one mines the crystals themselves? i've done it before by doing 2 separate cable lines....

2 energy acceptors connected to 1 flux point....

maybe it's working actually..

yea, it took a moment to start

just doesn't break immediately everytime?

[gleaming torrent]

If you immediately break an bud instantly it wont even drop dust

It needs some level of maturity

[mild basin]

i meant the full cluster

it's collecting dust just fine

[gleaming torrent]

Oh yeah, AE2 does this thing were if your devices aren't being used frequently they slow down, so dw too much about it.

[mild basin]

hm, weird

[frozen dome]

the mining XP you get for the skill level mod thingy is extremely low

I assume because I think it was changed recently (.4 maybe) that not all blocks give xp anymore, only things like coal - which is a fine change imo

but xp gain should probably be increased now

I have not done a lot of fighting and already 2 points, while I have been mining quite a bit and don't even have 1 point

[flint egret]

I made it so only ore instead of stone and reduced the numbers but I think as you said the numbers can increase now

That it's only ore

[rose fern]

Im back at getting the invalid player data in singleplayer

I have an error log but not sure its related

[frozen dome]

yeah exactly what I mean Adam, the change that only "special" blocks give XP is fine, but the overall gain as a result of that change is now extremely low

[flint egret]

I agree

I'll make a change

[mild basin]

most people have already completely maxed out mining and have like 100 extra points :/

[frozen dome]

especially considering IMO that players will be fighting all the time through the whole pack but probably mostly stop mining manually at some point

[mild basin]

no, not with spectral hammer

[frozen dome]

most of that probably from before the update :p

[mild basin]

yea

[frozen dome]

in general the mining tree probably could also be a bit more interesting though I'm actually not sure what would be viable stat changes besides speed and fortune

[mild basin]

block reach

[frozen dome]

but of course that's a thing that could be changed in a much later update, not that important right now

[gleaming torrent]

You can not give out block reach for free, way too strong of an verb.

[mild basin]

give the player like 0.2 or even 0.5 extra block reach for each point and max it out at like +2

[gleaming torrent]

+2 is so much

[mild basin]

block reach is fine

not like you're giving them ENTITY reach

[gleaming torrent]

They are one in the same?

otherwise yeah who cares

[mild basin]

not that i know of

[gleaming torrent]

entity reach is what im talking about; specfically block reach is w/e

[mild basin]

in one pack i played a long time ago, i had 50 block reach but had normal reach for mobs and other entities

[gleaming torrent]

but from experiance they are same same

[rose fern]

So after my last error it seems to have deleted my single player world

[mild basin]

ouch

[gleaming torrent]

impressive

[flint egret]

im not fully sure how it could delete your world

check make sure its the correct profile

[rose fern]

Im not sure either

[flint egret]

restart because sometimes it can not detect the saves folder after a crash

check the saves folder by hand

[rose fern]

checking the folder it should still exist atleast

ok world is detected

[flint egret]

yeah

its just not detecting it

[rose fern]

on restart

[flint egret]

normal enough after a crash

[rose fern]

idk why I keep getting invalid player data

in single player

might be the reason the server keeps crashing

[bold forge]

they used to be, but vanilla split them somewhat recently

[mild basin]

it was 1.19 wasn't it? that or 1.20

[bold forge]

it was probably one of those two

idr which

[mild basin]

yea

[bold forge]

smaller things in recent updates are a bit blurry for me

[mild basin]

i don't follow vanilla anymore, haven't for years

[bold forge]

even camels i had to double check what version they officially integrated them into the base game

[mild basin]

i hear of talk about the major changes but nothing outside of that

minecraft finally added camels?

i wonder if we'll see a different skill tree in the future, going back to that topic for a moment

[frozen dome]

oh and sorry @flint egret once more regarding mining XP: from I can see in the file non-modded ores currently don't give any XP? like tin etc. maybe adding all the modded stuff would be almost enough to fix the current issue

[mild basin]

you already get so much xp though for mining vanilla ores, adding more wouldn't fix it

i'd be getting an extra point every 2 seconds mining full veins

an overhaul to the skill trees in the future would be nice.....maybe a swap to Passive Skill Tree with a more custom skill tree designed specifically for MCE2

[digital yacht]

Pretty sure mce1 had the block reach enchant that let you reach 15 blocks but entity was still the normal 3

[mild basin]

yea

i can't remember if normal entity reach was 3 or 4, but 3 sounds more correct

[digital yacht]

Some swords bump you up to 3.5. Some mobs still out range me though

Darn fire zombies

[mild basin]

ancient knights have insane reach

they'll hit you down from 3 blocks high if they wanted to

i think they can hit you down from 4 blocks as well

they can do a leaping stab

[rose fern]

yeah very annoying if you dont have ranged

[gritty badger]

Adam i saw the announcement that you will remove bags of holding will there be a replacement for it ? i mean i use it to store the tools or extra storage when i use the backpack for looting

[bold forge]

there's uncountable other portable storage options, tinkers' pocket modifier, a second backpack, probably even a portable enderchest item (botania's hand of ender comes to mind)

needless to say you won't be starving for options, you'll just have to find one you're comfortable with for that purpose

[digital yacht]

Backpack with upgrades are pretty spicy

[livid prawn]

where's the announcment

[digital yacht]

#📌-announcements

[gritty badger]

i could use a second backpack

i like backpack because i use the key B

duno if there is a conflict to open them both or witch one is the priority

[digital yacht]

I have 3 lol one I keep on my back for random loot, one that stores blocks with stack upgrades and pickup upgrade, one for storing ores and mineables

Only the one in your back curio slot will open with B. Otherwise you just put them in your hand and right click

[gritty badger]

ok then that is ok

i hear a growling sound aroundd me of a beast but there is none

[digital yacht]

I get that too sometimes

[median stone]

have you looked into a dank for blocks pickup? it auto picks up whatever you put in its inventory and can stores thousands upon thousands in a single slot in the dank

[tiny field]

Do we get Bounty board back?

[bold forge]

wdym?

[tiny field]

Well my bounty board havnt worked for 2 updates now xD

[bold forge]

like at all?

[tiny field]

i dont get any bounty to do. ive tried picking it up and putting it down again

[digital yacht]

Yea I'm familiar. Already had spare backpacks though from looting

[rose fern]

what would be a good way to find dragon nests?

[mild basin]

adam removed most of the modded bounties

if not all

unless it was unintentional

[bold forge]

no that was intentional

cause the values on them were absolutley screwed and let you get some things much earlier than you really should have been able to

[mild basin]

yea i agree 😭

[tiny field]

i just saw a bounty pop up, and disapered

and i agree on that part 😛

[mild basin]

on our server, we had a full wall of bounty boards...

i think some of them were fine to keep

it was mostly the artifacts and ice & fire stuff

[tiny field]

i think i need new decree for it to work maybe

[gritty badger]

i think this mob is like waves of monster comming to you ?

[mild basin]

the pack doesn't have gateways by default but it'd be nice for custom gates

[digital yacht]

I thought I saw a few different gates

[bold forge]

i think we added it in 1.04.5

unless it was already there

[mild basin]

eh?

[gritty badger]

it here

[bold forge]

but we only have 1 custom one so far

[mild basin]

didn't know it was added

[bold forge]

and you need to use it to get to nether

[digital yacht]

Yea, it was somewhat difficult to do in the time allowed lol the first time I tried it, it summoned an undead army at the same time and I got pinched

[mild basin]

rip

[gritty badger]

it seems it works

wel...

[digital yacht]

Whatever patch switched away from the night lich

[gritty badger]

yea...

i was kinda close...

[mild basin]

if a mob walks too far, it actually just gets teleported back to the portal from my experience

[digital yacht]

I made a walled pit for doing my fights

[gritty badger]

yea it needs to be done at night

its not working in the middle of the day...

[mild basin]

it shouldn't need a specific time of day?

[gritty badger]

and it failed after it tryed to spawn a big slime

[flint egret]

all of them bar the custom one are broken currently due to how the expert and master system works

its hard to explain

[gritty badger]

aaa ok

[flint egret]

but it tries summoning an expert zombie because of how mob replacement works

but ofc it cannot do that because its not expert mode

so the gateway closes

[gritty badger]

ok so later in the game when expert you can use them

[flint egret]

currently yes

but not an intended limitations

[gritty badger]

but now the question why there is a growling sounds coming around me ?

cuz is super scarry

:))

[median stone]

@flint egret have you started work on AE2 quests yet? I've written a few so far but will stop if you already have made some since I don't want to do the same work that you've already done.

[gleaming torrent]

I've already submitted one

[median stone]

i see now

thats mbad

[gleaming torrent]

No worries, when it comes out lmk what you would change/add.

[median stone]

i suppose i could do create or thermal series

[gleaming torrent]

An thermal one would be nice, it's documentation feels weak comapred to Create.

[wary zodiac]

Is anyone doing Iron’s Spell quest 👀

[gleaming torrent]

Not that I know of

[median stone]

most of my knowledge of thermal comes from 1.12.2 thermal so im gonna have to spend some time making sure that everything is relatively the same

[mild basin]

afaik, it is

i think the only change therm series did is slightly changing upgrades for machines?

[digital yacht]

Well, modpack recipe changes. Servos require precision mechanisms from create

Could be relevant

[mild basin]

i think jelliot meant other than recipe changes?

[median stone]

yes, but still helpful

[mild basin]

yea

i think it's all still the same for the most part

integral components are still there

[median stone]

looks like it. for that, i am happy

[frozen dome]

wait, how does Thermal (upgrades) work now? their website is completely outdated

[mild basin]

they don't inherently upgrade the machines, rather than function as energy and efficiency enhancers

[frozen dome]

no more upgrade for more secondary ores and stuff?

[mild basin]

yea there's all that still

[digital yacht]

Those still exist in some capacity

[mild basin]

i remember in 1.12.2, the integral components change the physical machine, similarly to mekanism

is that it? i'm pretty sure

[flint egret]

@gleaming torrent the ae2 chapter looks very good, well done 🙏

whats your in game name so i can give you the cape

dm me if you prefer

[gleaming torrent]

sent

[sharp crystal]

Oh wow, what is that 2 quest lines now community made??

[flint egret]

yep! its amazing tbh! many hands make light work 🫶

[silent trail]

Rats questline when? 👀

[mild basin]

need that sneak peak 👀

[gleaming torrent]

Does this still count? I don't have it on standby rn.

[mild basin]

ah, sure

i was hoping to get a view of the whole quest line 😂

i see some mistakes in there lmao

repsective lol

[gleaming torrent]

Hopefully they were all caught before I released, I did an run through to catch as many as I could see.

[mild basin]

don't do what i did

[tight pawn]

Maybe the real Questmaster was the friends we made along the way

[digital yacht]

non-vamp vs vamp with no armor. Seems like there is some base armor stuff at play. Some armors apply their values and some don't. Strange

dreadsteel is the only chestplate I have found that actually adds its armor value properly. All the others are the vamp base armor OR the armor piece, whichever is higher

Is this something big enough to put as a ticket or is it intended? Nothing in the vamp wiki says this will happen

[gleaming torrent]

File a ticket, its not intended.

[digital yacht]

https://github.com/adam9899/MC-Eternal-2/issues/210
Might already be one, guess I will add onto it

[gleaming torrent]

Yeah I like vouching for stuff, helps it get noticed.

[mild basin]

dude, no wonder most armor feels almost nonexistent

[digital yacht]

it ends up being somewhat the same amount actually. I should be getting 18 from my armor (and I am) but without my armor I have like 14 (vamp base is 10, I am level 4 vamp so +4 armor). Seems like it only starts adding your armor values as you get over the base value so that you don't become a tank god

else I would have like 32 armor with diamond

maybe it is intended lol

[mild basin]

yea but you still get 1 shot by mobs like the wither and most dragons

my armor doesn't help me at all because of constant poison bringing me down to half heart

[digital yacht]

would recommend

[mild basin]

i already have 2 cooldown rings + spectral hammer

[digital yacht]

true this though. I get 3 tapped by a lot when I am just exploring

you get 3 ring slots, yea?

[mild basin]

yea

2 cooldown rings plus another to boost spectral hammer

[digital yacht]

this one is kinda troll btw. It lets you see invisible entities and that is all

[mild basin]

lmao yea

[digital yacht]

oh gotcha. Probably worth to have multiple sets tbh

[mild basin]

i already have 3 diff armor sets 😭

ars, iron spell's, and dreadsteel

[digital yacht]

are there any mobs that drygmy can farm for gold? If you know

I was gonna capture a zombie piglin

[mild basin]

I think I get gold from ignis?

He drops a LOT of different stuff

If not, archwood forests have more gold than mesa biomes

[flint egret]

#🐈-github-modpacks message

heheh

[digital yacht]

hard to cap? I find it hard to capture anything with projectiles. Skeletons kept throwing arrows into my jars

and/or hard to cap before he one shots my butt

[mild basin]

I set up the ritual away from him and then lure him into it

Got him first try

[digital yacht]

captured for all eternity

[mild basin]

@digital yacht someone on the server I play on capped gaia

[digital yacht]

I wish there was a way to see drygmy loot drops from mobs in game

it really is a guessing game

[mild basin]

Yea

Mostly looking at JEI tells you the items to expect

[bold forge]

:|

[mild basin]

But there's a lot more than that...

Yea, emper....someone put gaia in a containment jar

[digital yacht]

A lot of mobs say they drop iron but I have yet to get a jar that drops it consistently

[mild basin]

I get most ores from mining

So

[digital yacht]

I was trying to find a way to not need to go searching for iron and gold all the time

just find it weird that some mobs (tha thave drops) don't when drygmy farmed

iron golems come to mind

[mild basin]

cave creepers

not really consistent though

i have a fortune 4 pickaxe and combined with the lucky scarf, i can get like....a stack of iron per vein

actually, i have a vein hammer that has built in fortune 3, as well as the lucky modifier......

it's like 1.5x better than a regular fortune 4

@digital yacht if you're that desperate for iron, you can use a scrying ritual if you've gone through ars..adding a manipulation essence will increase the duration of the effect to 15mins

[cinder plume]

Vampire armor doesn't stack with armor by design. I think i saw it in the in game vampirism book

https://wiki.vampirism.dev/blog/changelog - 1.8

Wearing armor also makes you slower

[cinder plume]

For iron, at least, you can make a slow iron generator with create using a mechanical drill, millstone, encased fan, chute, and a sophisticated storage barrel with a pickup upgrade

Could scale it up to make it go much faster

[mild basin]

Sand is gold

[vale vault]

Iron golem genocide is also a valid option if you got the vinnila route… more I think about it the more brutal the vinila farms are than modded… well most of the time

[digital yacht]

in case anyone is interested. You give Arcane Essence to the familiars you see running around and then you can give them these little things to boost their armor after they tame

They randomly stopped using source? I doubt my 2 tier melon farm is out producing their usage

[mild basin]

2 tier melon farms are pretty good still, how many drygmy?

looks like..5?

[digital yacht]

they were running the jar empty yesterday. Randomly today they are not

4

[mild basin]

hmm

[digital yacht]

although when I dispelled one, its token randomly disappeared so maybe 5 is the break point

I only have 4 now after losing one

[mild basin]

no, you can have as many as you want

[digital yacht]

Yea but each one you add takes more source

[mild basin]

i've had 10 at once

right

[digital yacht]

so having 5 was using more than the farm produced but 4 is not

[mild basin]

so there's your answer

[digital yacht]

just needed to talk it through I suppose

[mild basin]

yep

like i said, there's no limit to the amount of drygmy for 1 hedge

i've seen 20 in one farm before

[hybrid path]

I see that 1.0.4.6 is already out, is it safe for servers? and also was there a exploit with the book of recycling or is the whole thing getting disabled?

[bold forge]

book of recycling is just universal uncrafting last i knew, which is fundamentally a broken concept

[mild basin]

i'd love to see all the changes but the link that's supposedly for the changelog just leads to the general page of the MCE2 github...?

[bold forge]

[mild basin]

😭

also, were my changes not accepted yet for ars nouveau quests? i don't see myself as a contributor right now

[hybrid path]

but am I right thinking that for server players we currently should stay on .5?

[bold forge]

i figured adam should give it a double check before merging

i looked over it tho and seems pretty good

[mild basin]

right, i saw the message you left on my page

[gleaming torrent]

he introduced 2 new chapters, that pbly took up his time today

but im sure ur doing well

[digital yacht]

why wouldnt it be safe?

[vale vault]

hey does anyone have any ideas on how to light a fire long enough for a dragon egg to hatch without using netherack?

I got two fire dragon eggs before unlocking nether and I wanna raise em up before thennnn anyone know a good alt or way to keep fire lit for that long?

[mild basin]

you can make netherrack with ars i think...

[vale vault]

OOooOOooO yea I also might just be unlucky but havent found any vinillia broken portals yet either

[hybrid path]

If its a .5 server then if things are not all the same mod wise it wouldnt let you join

[vale vault]

il have to prog in ars then

[mild basin]

you don't need to progress far, just making an imbuement chamber to make essences

i don't remember all the blocks you can convert off the top of my head

[vale vault]

never used ars before so guess il see what happennnnsssss, im trying to do as much overworld prog before event touching the nether

[mild basin]

you won't get too far gear wise

[vale vault]

ofc ofc but still a little challenge to keep the early game rolling and figuring ouit how to get around nether mats lol

[digital yacht]

update your client and server at the same time though

[hybrid path]

I hadnt seen an announcement for .6 so I didnt know server files were out too oops

[mild basin]

i was wrong, can't convert anything to netherrack using ars essences...just learn to start checking JEI

[vale vault]

yea probably not a bad idea lol, il see if I can do that, I kinda just had it in my mind I needed an alternative to netherrack not thinging there might've been a way to craft it before nether o.O

thank youuuuuuu

[mild basin]

other than that, finding a ruined portal is your only bet

you can use fire essence from ars nouveau to convert stone variants to magma

[digital yacht]

you can find a roguelike dungeon and go to the bottom floor for a ton of nether stuff

the vanilla recipe for chests was removed?

[bold forge]

i just made it so you can turn any chest vanilla

[digital yacht]

I see. It broke some of my auto crafting lol gotta add an extra step now

[coral gust]

In the current version it seems a lot of woodtypes were forgotten to have a chest crafting recipe

[thick sky]

I played normally in my singleplayer world and suddenly i got kicked out with an error something similar like "Server Closed". Now i can't re-join my word or close the game with the Quit button bc i'm stucked on this screen for 10 minutes now.

Should i force close the game?

It's not frozen, just stucked in this state

@mild basin @flint egret

[thick sky]

nwm, i'm closing it

[bleak lance]

So palm and archwood can no longer craft chests

[white willow]

archwood can

[bleak lance]

Guess I’m blind, knowing me there’s one with palm to

[viscid basin]

why i cant summon captain cornelia (eye boss). it just says "nothing happens" in the chat

and im in an ice maze

[mild basin]

Be close to water

[viscid basin]

the is water around it, still doesnt work

i can read

[mild basin]

well, keep trying

[misty ingot]

I’ve have tinkers armor that’s equivalent to netherite armor but it feels like I am just wearing paper with how fast I still die,, should I get into one of the magic mods for ways to survive?

Or is the pack just designed so that no matter the armor you’ll die fast

[small flare]

Do you have a way to heal?

[misty ingot]

No I just attack pretty fast but I’ll look into that

[small flare]

Since enchanting my armor (using the pyromancer armor from Iron's Spell book) and obtaining the vampire glove its been a lot easier to survive when being swarmed. My melee weapon is usually the amethyst rapier and I haven't been using the Echo strikes most of the time. Ive also invested into the resistance portions of the skill tree

That being said I still can be killed by some of the harder hitting enemies, I have not tested my survivability against dragons or the soul forge boss

[small flare]

A little bit of magic im sure wouldn't hurt though, I usually have a staff in my off hand and there are a few good healing options there in Iron spells and Ars i also know there is a %resistance spell in Iron's as well

[misty ingot]

How’s hex casting look if you’ve tried it?

[small flare]

I haven't yet but a few people on my server have been having fun with it from what I have heard

[gleaming torrent]

@flint egret, Noticed you closed the mod suggestion issue on github, is there an alternative or are you no longer taking suggestions?

[gritty badger]

is it inteded when yo start the game to make a backup ?

because from what i see it creates a tiny lag spike

[flint egret]

i am taking suggestions i just found that method to be not super useful :> a lot of the suggestions were not even possible, like a couple mods weren't even on 1.20

so i need a better format and some sort of template

otherwise its more effort than its worth just to go through it

[frozen dome]

Github allows for templates for issues, you can differentiate between suggestions and bug reports

or maybe a Google form, would put all results in a nice table (advantage would be that it doesn't require a Github account for submitters)

[sharp crystal]

I think you’d have more luck just having a channel on this discord here. More players would be likely to report bugs. Plus, they do anyway right now in general 😂

[cinder plume]

I've never made quests before but got inspired to make a chapter. Learning how it works and made a gag reward.

[flint egret]

thats amazing

[sonic sail]

build-a-barry

official barry merch when?

[flint egret]

i want to do mce merch at some point for reals

but i gotta do it right so i can feel good about it

[sonic sail]

makes sense

[flint egret]

there is a lot of low effort merch out there :>

[sonic sail]

true

[gleaming torrent]

Logo on a T shirt, $40, take it or leave it.

[sonic sail]

not even a t-shirt it is a tanktop and the size comes a size smaller than what you ordered

[bold forge]

marketable barry

[flint egret]

always made in china for like 1$, sold for 40 :>

[sonic sail]

lead added in for sweetness

[cinder plume]

Also looking at the quests in edit mode I realize that some of the quests got broken for me somehow but not others on my server. Like the letter from Mom where you get Dads old Shoes never fired for me (and I've gotten the message for the other mom letter multiple times)

[flint egret]

i would make merch that was sustainable with solid materials and hire an artist who was good :> which would make it expensive but it would be good

[sonic sail]

wish i could art

[gleaming torrent]

You can, everyone can, you just gotta set your expectations properly. Just because we're older doesn't mean we lose the right to scribble around to express ourselves.

[sonic sail]

no its the fact that i physically cant pull myself to work on a long project

[gleaming torrent]

Bits and pieces, but im saying that asif I dont abadon my projects constantly 😭.

[sonic sail]

unless something is pressuring me to do so

maybe i can learn how to mod instead

[flint egret]

french barry

we love u

🇫🇷

[mild basin]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-gif-18573380

[vale vault]

In a pinch using the daily jaffas give you like effectively 5 seconds on invincibility with instant health 5 or something crazy

[median stone]

@flint egret this is my current progress on the Thermal questline. I'm waiting on doing the pull request until im further along unless you want to me make it sooner than later. Most of them have detailed descriptions but i still need to add some. Im currently 50/50 on if i should add all the niche machines/dynamos into the questline. On one hand it feels like it may add unnecessary quest bloat, but it could also be nice to have all of them with detailed descriptions for info and for the fun of completing quests.

it could also definitely look better so i might need help with design ideas/stuff to remove or change

[flint egret]

looking good :> feel free to take your time with it there is no pressure

im happy to arrange it and make it look better

[median stone]

perfect

[mild basin]

anyone know if my fixes for ars nouveau quests were implemented? unable to update yet myself🙃

[flint egret]

not yet! sorry! i will check it now

[gleaming torrent]

good work man

[rose fern]

@flint egret does Oratchalcum not spawn in ratlantis?

after mining for a long time I suspect it doesnt

[mild basin]

i think going in-depth on major features are important, but touching on niche things can be added

i did the same thing almost, but still missing quests for spell turrets.....i'm debating if i should add them or not

[tidal escarp]

it does, super damn rare tho

[gleaming torrent]

Adam, could you check dms when you have an moment?

[mild basin]

hey @gleaming torrent have you tried using the annihilation plane to farm ichor for blazing blood?

[gleaming torrent]

Nope, is the setup notable?

[rose fern]

Best to just farm the rat baron it seems

[tidal escarp]

oh crap really, is there a way to summon him or just keep finding his summon thing

[rose fern]

alright it took me forever to make this automated

do you have some capture device like a soul gem?

[tidal escarp]

yessir

[rose fern]

good

you summon him and immediately soul gem the plane, not the baron

Then you set up ars containment ritual and place the plane

it will likely not capture because the plane will die right away

but there is a chance

it took me like 5 tries

so when the plane dies he leaves enough oratchalcum to make another air raid

[mild basin]

same as the certus....but the annihilation plane is breaking it every time even with a filter for ichor crystals

[rose fern]

so you can try plenty

[gleaming torrent]

Send me an photo to replicate, and make sure your filtering your storage bus properly.

[mild basin]

like i said, same as certus quartz..i just added it onto the same cable

[fiery birch]

this is blowing my mind... i think im good at modded minecraft and then i spend some time looking through this server and i realize im but a novice

[gleaming torrent]

Yeah it'd doing the same thing with me,

[mild basin]

strange

[gleaming torrent]

Dunno, I'll try and look into it at somepoint

[mild basin]

i figured it'd work but i guess not

[digital yacht]

there's like 600 mods in this bad boy, hard to be good at all of them

[bleak lance]

Is anyone working on the vampirsm quests? if so i think im going to give it a go

[flint egret]

not currently so feel free!

[fossil pewter]

create big cannons has been fixed for 1.20 do you think we will see that in the pack? I remember it being mentioned somewhere

[steel glacier]

what i wanna see is the rest of the EnderIO stuff, that would be peak

[small flare]

Once they back port the rest of it we probably will

[cinder plume]

I'm actually doing quests for vampire's delight but not the main vamprism stuff

[fiery birch]

can you not make blaze farms? water, create crushing wheels are only producing soot

[bold forge]

blazes only usually drop rods when killed by a player or something directly related to them, like a pet

[fiery birch]

darn okay thank you

[bold forge]

fakeplayers might work though

like a deployer

alternatively, turn them into infernal soup

[fiery birch]

OHHH smart

[bleak lance]

sweet i know next to nothing about that mod

[cinder plume]

It's nice to be able to make other things to fill your blood bar instead of just having to drink blood.

[mild basin]

someone on the server i play on just speedran vampirism and stopped playing

max level vamp too

[bleak lance]

didnt even know that ive been lazy and have one cow in a boat

[digital yacht]

drygmy farm, ez rods

[fiery birch]

you need to use silk touch on the fully grown crystal

figured this out

[mild basin]

i had silk touch on the plane

you don't need silk otherwise afaik

[fiery birch]

i just did it but i had it for the fully grown ichor crystal not the shard

[mild basin]

AE2 hates me i guess

[fiery birch]

I just found out that you can move the reinforced deepslate with a cardboard box despite it being "unbreakable". So people can move them if they desire to their base

[gleaming torrent]

Cardboard Boxes can move anything unless the modpack specifically blacklists it.

[teal cedar]

The Dreadbow with the Burrowing arrows can destroy blocks in players claimed chunks

[vale vault]

I’ve been playing modded mc for like probably almost 8 years now and there is still a stupid amount of things I’ve never done and crazy stuff I see people do here… then again I’m adhd af and almost never complete projects and job from mod to mod like a rat jumping between flavors of cheese in a cheese importation center.

[tiny field]

Hi guys. Dunno if this is a stupid question... But like in sneak peak there is added more to the pack, and since i created my world adam added i think it was 17 % more Struckture spawns. Do i need to restart to get all this new stuff since i created my world on the first day it was added to Curse ?

[gleaming torrent]

All you need to do to experience the new rates is explore and generate new chunks.

[tiny field]

ahh very nice. Thanks :-D!

[polar dome]

Hey, maybe this is some sort of mandela effect but wasnt a dragon dimension planned for mce2 as well?

[thick sky]

idk, i rarely found any dragon so i configured the mod for myself to spawn them a bit more

[lime lake]

I hope the blacklist on drygmys is only for loot extraction. I sometimes put goblins in jars just so I can buy stuff from them later

[mild basin]

If you use a source spawner, you can get multiple goblin traders at once

[desert seal]

I hope we get one lol, they are hard to find as is, even more so on a server

[thick sky]

||A small mistake i found in the End Progression questline. The quest for the wither eye says "Nether Progression" but the structure itself can only be found in the Overworld. Maybe you meant nether progression bc it needs a nether start to awaken the boss, but for other player it can be confusing if they start searching for the boss arena in the nether.||

@flint egret

[polar dome]

Same

[thick sky]

Explosions keep happening after i killed the dragon, not sure what causing this but i also crashed the sencond time now in the main end island. The crashed mod: Perception (not first time i got a crashed bc of this mod)

[fiery birch]

Right i just didnt know if this was an oversight and if Adam wants the ability for the portal to be moved to ones base. As the size needed for the portal is still the default nether portal size.

like if you want to go the great below you MUST go through the city portal

[tiny field]

I dont have a githup account. But i found out that if you do minecolonies the Fortress build doesnt activate the "House" quest.

[compact spruce]

Nope. You might be thinking of a scrapped idea from 1.16 where the dragons would appear in different dimensions instead of different biomes. There was a teaser of a lightning dragon in the undergarden

[polar dome]

yeah thats probably it

[bleak lance]

When creating the quests, should i be putting rewards or no?

[bold forge]

you can, or you can not, and we'll fill them in

if you have any particular special rewards in mind, like extra copies of something you just made, it might be worth adding those in, adam will probably just stick to adding generic rewards for the most part.

[vale vault]

Oooo also for these boss rooms you can make eyes specifically for those bosses( I think it’s cataclysm) to locate them and maybe include that in the quest description?

[fiery birch]

Question about the upcoming Sakura dimension, will the ore generation be the same as the overworld? Basically if i have people who dislike the combat aspect and mobs of normal and just want to play basically on peaceful, can they live in this dimension without any major issues?

[flint egret]

pretty much

its not true peaceful though

because mobs still spawn, its just never night time

so the surface is mostly safe

that was the idea around it though, to make a "chill" dimension when most of them are not very chill

[fiery birch]

perfect! thank you!

[broken dew]

sakura makes the like 5th custom dimension then...?

idk if im counting right

[vale vault]

Too many numbers

[broken dew]

real

[vale vault]

Max is like 64 and even then my brain cannot comprehend anything more than that or it will melt

4 is a comfortable amount of numbers

[fiery birch]

i like the custom dimensions gives a lot of uniqueness to MCE2, even if im getting absolutely obliterated in the great below on repeat.

[vale vault]

Gotta push through the lows to get rewarded with the highs

[fiery birch]

true, gotta struggle to make the mineshaft that is "safe"

[cinder plume]

Cleaned up the quests

[bleak lance]

looking good! how do you add images?

[bold forge]

holy shit, barry is going you drink you

[silent trail]

Vampire barry isnt real he cant hurt you

[cinder plume]

what about french chef vampire barry

[cinder plume]

Right click on the background of the quest page and there's an option to add an image. You have to put an image into the modpack directory somewhere

[median stone]

Every quest here now has a detailed description! im taking a break now and will think about adding all the rest of the machines/dynamos

[flint egret]

holy crap! well done : o

[gleaming torrent]

Having the Vien Mining Enchant & Tree Chop mod use the same stop x key means that vien mining on an axe doesn't actually help with cutting trees.

[frozen dome]

that's pretty funny

[bold forge]

atleast you can turn off treechop more permanently from its ingame config menu

[gleaming torrent]

:0

[bold forge]

it has a bind, press it and you can change some personal settings for it

[gleaming torrent]

Ohh its so much better

[mild basin]

cardboard box is mekanism, not thermal?

[median stone]

correct

[mild basin]

i'm pretty sure i see it in your quests

[median stone]

but you can get sawdust from thermal for the cardboard box, and there is no other cardboard box quest in the quests

[mild basin]

well right

[median stone]

its important enough that i added it but it can be moved or removed if adam decides

[gleaming torrent]

Metioning it is solid imo, super useful and thermal gets you it early af.

[vale vault]

I really think that opening the quest dev to the players was a really good call, seeing how much prog is being made by everyone is epicccccccccccc

[tight pawn]

Yeah, it's awesome seeing what people can put together :> rlly makes it feel like a community driven pack

[mild basin]

can't imagine how happy adam is seeing people who are into making the modpack better like he is

couldn't have asked for a more dedicated community ❤️

[frozen dome]

Generally I agree, but I'm slightly worried that the tone/style might not quite fit or the rewards or something. But I assume that over time Adam or Emperdog will take a closer look and maybe fine tune things. For now it's certainly very cool, so we don't have to wait for more content!

[mild basin]

i mean, quest rewards aren't gonna be perfect for a while

they're pretty rough but it'll get better over time

[frozen dome]

well most rewards are coins which are currently useless lol

[mild basin]

well right, that was the main reward from quests, like with MCE1

[soft nova]

lol yea whens that shop gonna be added i got so many coins rn

[mild basin]

who knows

[hybrid path]

Is anyone else wearing the Fireward ring for fire immunity but still being instantly roasted by fire dragons?

[mild basin]

yea, dragon fire is different from normal fire for the most part

[vale vault]

think theres a bug with dragons giving you multiple certificates of taming, like very randomly when right clicking try to get a teir one dragon on my shoulder it game me a 'certifdicate of taming' and then it got a few more after clicking more times, seems random chance but I have like 8 different certificates of taming from one smol green dragon

and dont question all the backpacks im moving bases rn lmao

[bold forge]

there is very much known, we have no idea why tf it happens at all, partly because majrusz's code is a bit fucked to read

[vale vault]

o.O

[fiery birch]

the tunnel digger does not make any noise when running, this means that unless it is breaking blocks (skulk or stone) it does not trigger the warden and goes undetected by the great below mobs. (i tested this in creative to check if any noise was generated).

[tight pawn]

We do vet the tone/style and rewards and make adjustments if required before implementing them :>

[compact spruce]

if i had to guess it's say it's a bad interaction with ice and fire's janky multipart entities

[unkempt ore]

Is anyone currently making quests for Iron’s spells? I got really into the mod during my playthrough so far and could maybe cook smth up.

[flint egret]

Not currently I don't think

[undone heath]

hello, I tried using an enderman gateway and right before it started I got this message: "The Gateway imploded because an entity was removed without being killed" and the gateway dissapeared, any way to fix this ?

[mild basin]

There's issues with gateways due to the different difficulties

It might've tried spawning a high level mob but couldn't because you hadn't unlocked master mode or something

[undone heath]

oh, okay

[thick sky]

how can i find enderium shards?

[mild basin]

Use ritual of scrying in the end. Throw an enderium ore to the brazier using the compass you get from the dragon's lootbag and throw a manipulation essence as well

[thick sky]

and where can i find the enderium ores?

[mild basin]

In the end..

[thick sky]

just randomly in the end?

[mild basin]

Yea

[thick sky]

cause i almost mined out an entire island and no luck

[mild basin]

You need the compass at first

Kill the dragon and open the lootbag, hope you get the compass to locate the ores

Then through ars nouveau, you can get so much more

[mild basin]

Yep

[thick sky]

so this item does nothing by itself?

[mild basin]

Basically

[pastel atlas]

What the heck is that resolution my friend

[thick sky]

okay, thanks

[mild basin]

All it does is locate enderium ore

It's a hot and cold kinda thing

Bars light up the closer you are and flash when you're within a few blocks

[thick sky]

so no clicking needed?

just hold it

?

[mild basin]

Yea

[thick sky]

oh, nice

got it

thank you

[mild basin]

If you don't know ars nouveau, I'd recommend going through it

[thick sky]

i know it pretty well (i played too many all the mods lol)

[mild basin]

K

[thick sky]

btw @mild basin Explosions keep happening around the main portal in the end after the dragon kot killed and if i wait there for like 3 explosions to happen the game crashes

Crashed bc of this yesterday 2 times

and now too

btw i tried to summon the black death with this book. The Plague doctor just disappeared...

[mild basin]

yea i can't help with that, don't ping me with crash issues

just remove it if it's client side...only thing adam can do is either change perception or remove it from the main pack

[thick sky]

Okay, sorry for the ping.

[small flare]

PLEASE DO! So far it's an amazing replacement for Electroblobs so thank you for having it here Adam v.v

[snow beacon]

i have an AE2 question is there a way to make it cross dimension i used since now ars storage system and it started to lag sa i switched to AE2 but there is no infinty booster cxard or smething like that

[bold forge]

are you wanting specifically crossdim wireless terminal access? because if so, there's nothing for that current in MCE2

[gleaming torrent]

Look into singularities and their uses, there is something there you can use but Idk if it's what ur after.

[vale vault]

Invidia highlights was weird with it, but it worked so I could post it on discord lmao

[mild basin]

Quantum rings are really just for connecting different systems to the main AE2 system wirelessly. The range of current wireless terminals is decent but nothing cross dimensional and uses a LOT of power depending on the amount of range upgrades

You'd need a specific addon for true wireless and cross-dimensional terminals

[small flare]

Could I suggest moving the charger and compass in the AE 2 questline to the start?

Sure you can stumble onto a meteor pretty easily but I feel if you're going to be starting AE2 from scratch before finding one your baseline is going to be a compass, a charge, and the hand crank for the charger

[frozen dome]

@gleaming torrent ^

[polar dome]

What about Biomancy? looks so interesting but i cant wrap my Head around it

[flint egret]

None currently in the works

[gleaming torrent]

I'm trying to learn it, but no eta.

[gleaming torrent]

Heard

[gleaming torrent]

ty for the mention

[polar dome]

ill keep on waiting then

[upper lynx]

Hex casting definitely need something, amazing mod but dang is it hard to rap your head around until you realize it’s just cryptograms + programming

[mild basin]

i think occultism is worse

most packs i've seen with occultism mods do a very poor job of explaining things

it's a reason i've stayed away from the mod is because no one knows how to explain what to do for certain rituals

[bold forge]

i was considering a hexcasting questline, but it would probably not be particularly long, since a lot of what you can do with hex is spells, which are difficult to track with quests or anything

best idea i have for it so far is to like give out cyphers with simple sequences

[vale vault]

Oh yea I had to figure out how to get a hand crank to power it lmao, I am that person who didn’t know/remeber

[cinder plume]

For Hex, can you give out the patterns for the grand spells or whatever they're called? Could maybe have them in the shop too.

[bold forge]

potentially

i could see them being a bit difficult to collect

though this is also completely assuming i can actually get the world specific pattern onto the scroll, might require some workarounds

nothing i haven't experimented with in a different project though, assuming i can make it work that way

[steel glacier]

I love getting oneshot by a pillager

[south junco]

yea until those pillagers get nerfed i don't think i can play, only thing that is beyond annoying to me

[misty ingot]

Somehow gets their hands on the god crossbow

[south junco]

lmao those crossbows are insane haha

[steel glacier]

i lost my stuff because theres like 9 just on my grave

the second i get near them i get oneshot

[south junco]

i built minecolonies right by a tower and discovered that later, very bad luck i suppose

[mild basin]

what about the ars warp index is being nerfed but the mekasuit is being buffed?

[bold forge]

recipe, and stats

[mild basin]

i assumed a recipe change...but stats?

the mekasuit is already insane

[bold forge]

no in that order

[flint egret]

i had weakened it previously

[bold forge]

the mekasuit stats were nerfed a lot in 1.16 and that carried over

[flint egret]

and now i have made it stronger

[mild basin]

ah

[flint egret]

its still less strong than vanilla meksuit

just as a base line

[mild basin]

i didn't know they made it weaker in base mekanism before

[flint egret]

we make it weaker

[mild basin]

oh gotcha

i get what you're saying now

but with the warp indexes, idk if anyone else has had this issue but there's been times where i'd try to access my lectern but it'd say no access because no loaded chunks despite the chunks being loaded?

it seems REALLY random

[sleek widget]

Any suggestions as I am new to the mod and can’t keep filling bottles this fast 😅

[sleek widget]

It let me put iron golem in it and they’re black listed you just don’t get loot

[sleek widget]

There’s the sky dimension above build hight but we removed for rework so just keep and eye out for update it was remove on the .5 update I believe

[mild basin]

yea you can still PUT mobs in containment jars but if they're blacklisted, then they're just sitting collecting dust on your shelf to look good

[sleek widget]

Yeah

[misty ingot]

Where can we check the blacklist?

[mild basin]

probably configs?

[sleek widget]

Most say on the jar

[bleak lance]

Any good ways to move villagers

[mild basin]

soul vials, or containment jars

[bleak lance]

I’ll try the soul vials, the jars keep eating them

[median stone]

boat :D

[hybrid path]

The dragons still one shot me in full iron spells netherite battle mage armor, and since the fire immunity doesnt work with dragon fire its just a respawn until I win figtht

[flint egret]

im nerfing their breath

[mild basin]

dragons in general are way too strong, and armor is awful

even with prot 5 dreadsteel, it feels like i'm wearing paper

[cinder plume]

If you go to the vampire dimension, you can get the orchids there, cut them on a cutting board to get petals and seeds, and grow them on hoed cursed dirt (don't right click to harvest them, they're bugged with that mod, just break them)

The foods you can cook with the petals fill your bar and don't require any blood

You can also do a blood grinder and blood sieve like this and grind raw meats into blood

If you have meat, onions, and wheat/rice it's also easy to make blood hot dogs, which fill up more than a blood bottle itself does

I make those and the bagel sandwiches the most

[bleak lance]

Thank you I’ve been lazy and just been eating on one cow for over 50 days

[digital yacht]

vamp hunter in a containment jar > drygmy henge > unlimited human hearts

[broken dew]

is that a trans branded rat sword omg

[mild basin]

stop giving them things with ars to nerf lol

[digital yacht]

I doubt that would warrant a nerf. Most of the vampire stuff seems relatively unchanged aside from bat mode nerf

[sleek widget]

How do I get to the dimension?

[digital yacht]

#🏮-mce-general message

[fiery birch]

question, should the recipe of the key + ender pear instead of soul stone intended?

[steel glacier]

EnderIO armor was how I used to deal with them

[unreal belfry]

Crab 🦀 boss when?

and "Crab" menu screen tip when?

[vale vault]

4th of july hypeeeee

[desert seal]

Can we get ice and fire structures added to the structure compass please? they are a pain in the ass to find

[vale vault]

alsooo sortta on theme of BIG EXPLOSION DAY here in america (fireworks, its fireworks) , buuuuuuuut thoughts about create big cannons addition to mce2? (i like the mod and am biased af), not sure if its supported properly for new create buuuuuuut once it does think its on theme, especially with the guns already in the pack (also autocannons of some kind I remeber seeing the crafting recipe of somewhere)

[undone heath]

is there another way to get soul star besides loot crates ?

[desert seal]

undead mob drops

[teal cedar]

how can i kill mobs automatically and get player drops

[fiery birch]

YO @bold forge what the hell you doing here? Hope you enjoy our server! its chaotic

[south shell]

There needs to be more spawns for the cave tablets for alex's caves in just random chests cause I can't find the green one for the toxic caves at all

[desert seal]

Best bet is to change the minimap to cave mode, and look for the caves that way

[south shell]

That's basically what I been doing I found every cave tablet but the toxic cave one lmao

The caves spawned 10000 blocks away from my spawn area 💀

I'll find it tho

I NEED that metallurgic infuser

[dense totem]

I think jungle temples have a 50-50 chance of having one which you can locate with Ars

[south shell]

Wait you might be on to somthing

How do u locate the temples?

Is it a spell

[dense totem]

craft a wayfinder, craft it into a tablet of locate structure, and then use it on a ritual brazier and then add a mossy cobblestone to the ritual, and finalize it

[small flare]

Im not sure who's working on the Iron's Spells questline but if they could include a little bit of information about the familiars and accessories from Alshanex's Familiars Mod so that people wanting to lean into Iron's know that they exist, that would be awesome

[mild basin]

yea that's not real

[mild basin]

anyone else using electrolytic separators to fuel gas-burning gens for power? power usage may need to be reduced...i have a setup of 50 heat generators and it's barely able to power 4 electrolytic separators...

[misty ingot]

pulverizer wont get power is there a reason or just a bug? my induction smelter works fine

[compact spruce]

Can you show the setup?

[red oar]

Will the new cataclysm update be in the next patch?

[flint egret]

what changed?

[fiery birch]

no i know, i just thought it was funny

[misty ingot]

so i originally had it with the mechanism energy pipes but that wasnt working either.

[compact spruce]

ID won't give it power unless you tell it to

[desert seal]

You have to set the pipe to output at the sourse

[misty ingot]

okay i got it now thank you

[cobalt monolith]

is end goal progression planned/something like the atm star/ crafting creative items?

[bold forge]

no

[flint egret]

never ever

[bold forge]

at heart it's still minecraft

[flint egret]

goes against what minecraft should be imo

its a sandbox game

[misty ingot]

atm star might be my biggest enemy it was my least favorite part about atm

[cobalt monolith]

so creative items will stay creative

[flint egret]

correct.

[mild basin]

good

they ruin the game imo

[gleaming torrent]

@flint egret, Can I not add to my fork untill my current PR is resolved? Since any changes I make effect the open PR I was wonder if there was an work around.

[bold forge]

you can make a branch

though you may need to make the branch off an earlier commit

not sure how to do that in github web

[alpine current]

Would adding some creative items as quest rewards for absurdly difficult or challenging quests ever be considered?

[bold forge]

unlikely

[gleaming torrent]

I'll look into it.

[torpid trail]

wachu guys using for item pipes? all I see if fluid pipes

[desert seal]

Enderio and mekanism have item pipes

[torpid trail]

oo logistical, ty

[red oar]

It's the geoty cataclysm addon mod. They added more summons, spells etc

I think you can summon ancient remnant now

[lime lake]

Enderio pipes are kinda poopoo

Btw just noticed occultism was added into capture blacklist, I assume it's not the mobs?

[bold forge]

no it's all the mobs

partly for drygmy/other farming reasons

and partly so you don't accidentally contain joe from accounting in a jar

[lime lake]

Can we keep possessed mobs available for drygmy please?

[bold forge]

no

especially not the ones that make netherite and echo.

[mild basin]

sooo is the ars ocultas addon useless?

[bold forge]

what

i have no idea what it does

[mild basin]

the thing that allows you to put occultism spirits and demons in containment jars

[bold forge]

is that all it does

[mild basin]

uhhhh pretty much the whole point of it

[bold forge]

oh i see

it turns the processing spirits into block fellas

[mild basin]

ye

[bold forge]

ok i'll make the regex less strict later

i was mostly concerned about the possesed mobs being a way to generate some shit you should not be able to

[mild basin]

ah

fair

[lime lake]

This is an alternative way of progressing the pack which Adam promised is a good thing

[mild basin]

idk if not allowing any QoL is a good thing though

[lime lake]

No I mean the possessed mobs shouldn't be blacklisted either because I don't see a huge problem with it if people prefer to play pack this way

[mild basin]

hmm

[bold forge]

free netherite generator for summoning one guy is topic of contention i see :V

[mild basin]

most of my netherite has come from using scrying rituals tbh

[lime lake]

I'm being slightly petty here but let's remove bullet pepper from bumble zone and ways of getting quartz before going to nether

[mild basin]

sky villages have quartz blocks in the part that has the fountain and other areas

gonna remove those?

[lime lake]

But seriously change the recipe for the rituals that do have blocks from overworld so people have an option but so it's not that easy to get it first time

[mild basin]

create has a way to get quartz

[lime lake]

Yeah, and it's easy as shit. Should it be removed? I'm not sure

[mild basin]

not everyone's gonna do create though

gotta look at the mods that people will and won't use generally

yea a lot will but at the same time a lot won't as well

[lime lake]

A lot of people hate ars because it's magic mod

[mild basin]

yea

[lime lake]

Tbh whatever floats people boat it's okay

But like ars is 3 tech mods in a coat