MCE2 Sneak Peek Discussion

[pastel atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-yo-tone-mf-tf2-medic-heavy-critical-hit-gif-16778990601171475468

Like TF2 critical hit

Does not need to write critical hit XD, just the red letter and increase the font size

[broken dew]

I actually like that idea a lot

would add more readability in hectic fights

[flint egret]

im not sure i understand?

there is no text?

thats just from the target dummy

[broken dew]

oh I misunderstood

I thought you added dmg numbers outright to combat

[flint egret]

oh no, i was just trying to showcase the difference in damage between a crit and not a crit lol

[broken dew]

fair enough

[runic harbor]

When the modpack releases will there be a shop that uses coins like in mce 1 and if there is will it be available on release or will it be add later?

I don't think I have seen much of the quest book so I don't know what will and what won't be in it

[pliant igloo]

Check out the recent posts on the #🐕-github-mods page. It looks like currencies and a stock market will be in the game.

[wary zodiac]

Isn't that for a different modpack?

either way judging from #🎨mce2-dev-sneak-peek, its the same FTB coins like MCE 1

oh wait

Discord never notified new messages so I didn't scroll down in the github channel

Sorry

[bold forge]

i'm pulling some ideas from FTB Money, but i'm making our own entire mod for it, since FTBM isn't available for versions beyond 1.16, last i checked. it has a webhook set up for the github in #🐕-github-mods

the core idea is to make a modpack-focused currency mod that can fill the same void as FTBM, with support for many unique currencies.

i've just been dealing with some shitty parts of Forge as of late, because they aren't explained well anywhere i've found.

[wary zodiac]

Ohh

well wish you best of luck then

[pastel atlas]

That would be cool

Damage indicators with critical hits

[flint egret]

Not really within the scope of the mod. And I do think it already exists

[pastel atlas]

fyi an idea for the modpack, if does not have yet

[mild basin]

Damage indicators for the player? Idk if that's necessary for minecraft

[pastel atlas]

For mobs and etc... good thing to test the weapons damage

[fallow plinth]

hello

[chrome sinew]

Question, (this could easily have been answered already so my apologies) is there going to be similar progression to mce1 where certain ores are locked behind the mining dimension which is locked behind a specific boss? I thought that was really cool and was wondering if it’s similar again

[upper lynx]

I’m fairly certain that will be the case, it was mentioned in passing that certain ores will only be able to be mined in the great below, but I can’t remember if it was Adam who said it or just someone suggesting the idea and Adam really liking the idea.

[runic harbor]

Will tinker be in this ?

And the power armour mod

Or something like it

[nimble sorrel]

Will the structures Howester built for the 1.16 version of MCE2 be making it into actual MCE2?

[fiery jackal]

There will be soft locks yes.

[fallow plinth]

I love soft locks, this is why conditioner is important

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/men-in-tights-dancing-tights-manly-men-gif-11190708

[mild basin]

nothing too OP will be in the pack

[runic harbor]

It wasn't really op it was good for the price and the stage in the game

[mild basin]

I didn't mention the power armor specifically but you'll just have to see when ww get the release

[digital yacht]

Mekanism is in so I bet that power armor is on the table?

[slim roost]

if so he probably made it a pain to get lol

[digital yacht]

We already got confirmation that the fission reactor will have a big boom if it fails so definitely some changes were made

[slim roost]

oh no...

[digital yacht]

re:

[bold forge]

i mean they can just do that normally

i wonder if i could use a mixin to make it a fancier kaboom...

[runic harbor]

Make the kaboom bigger then anything else in the game

[slim roost]

make it delete your world

[pliant igloo]

On a scale of 1 (creeper boom) to 10 (DE reactor boom), how big of a boom will the Mek reactor have?

[bold forge]

i mean i think it's usually 3-5

if i did mess with it, it would not be much bigger than that

[slim roost]

thats not too bad...

[mild basin]

it depends on how big you make the reactor

if you make a small one, the damage won't be THAT bad but you'll have to at most rebuild part of the reactor

a larger one will essentially delete itself entirely

[pastel atlas]

Daily check in

[broken dew]

This is smth I shoulda asked

Do we know if Enigmatic is in this, and if so if its been tweaked?

Enigmatic Legacy is my goat mod

[sonic sail]

i like the eye guy

[mild basin]

some of the trinkets are pretty strong, a couple are downright broken

[vale vault]

Unless it's in your base lmao

[wary zodiac]

I like Enigmatic Legacy just for the starter ring you get with a random modifier

other than that, I know nothing about the mod lmao

[pastel atlas]

Wake up

Is da first of the month

Daily check in

[mild basin]

we got 19 more days bois

[vale vault]

https://tenor.com/view/europe-the-final-countdown-80s-music-new-years-eve-hair-band-gif-19757498

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

just imagine final countdown meme of your choosing

use your imaginatiooon

[sterile patrol]

Any chance we can see a sneak peek of the quest shop?

[bold forge]

like, the ftb money-like shop?

or what

[sterile patrol]

Yeah! I also heard someone say there was a stock market?

[bold forge]

best i can do

public class ShopCategory {

    public static final Codec<ShopCategory> CODEC = RecordCodecBuilder.create(inst -> inst.group(
            ResourceLocation.CODEC.fieldOf("icon").forGetter(e -> e.icon),
            Codec.unboundedMap(Codec.STRING, ShopEntry.DISPATCH_CODEC).fieldOf("entries").forGetter(e -> e.entries),
            Codec.list(PurchaseRequirement.DISPATCH_CODEC).optionalFieldOf("requirements", List.of()).forGetter(e -> e.requirements)
    ).apply(inst, ShopCategory::new));

    public final ResourceLocation icon;
    private final Map<String, ShopEntry> entries;
    private final List<PurchaseRequirement> requirements;

    public ShopCategory(ResourceLocation icon, Map<String, ShopEntry> entries, List<PurchaseRequirement> requirements) {
        this.icon = icon;
        this.entries = entries;
        this.requirements = requirements;
    }

    public List<PurchaseRequirement> getRequirements() {
        return requirements;
    }

    public Map<String, ShopEntry> getEntries() {
        return entries;
    }

    public ShopEntry getEntry(String entryName) {
        return entries.get(entryName);
    }
}```

||the menu isn't functional enough yet so the best you get is a class related to it||

enjoy reading code

[sterile patrol]

Thanks for what you can give. :p

[smoky plank]

Hey Adam, I am the PR manager for a modded mc network, we wanted to talk to you about hosting MCE2 at launch, could you please DM me since your DMs are closed?

[broken dew]

so likely not in ?

[mild basin]

i mean not every pack needs a hundred different trinkets but enigmatic would fit in mce2

[broken dew]

fair enoughskies

[mild basin]

would just have to remove a few trinkets i guess

[digital yacht]

Every pack needs a thousand so I can be a loot gremlin

[chrome sinew]

On Adam’s soul we are all hyped for mce2

[flint bolt]

will there be a variety of decorating mods 👉 👈

[sonic sail]

i would assume so

[digital yacht]

I usually build a box to live in but I think Imma try building an actual building

[pastel atlas]

Daily check in

[heady inlet]

Daily countdown: 18 days to go

[summer igloo]

Do we know what launcher MCE2 is going to be available on like etc?

[flint egret]

Curseforge and any launcher that grabs from curse

[summer igloo]

great that makes life easy

[broken dew]

I really am excited to equip the ring of 7 curses while trying to avoid imploding my server

[flint egret]

Enigmatic legacy is not in

[broken dew]

crying in the club

but also I just rewatched the trailer and I think I saw a custom arena for the wroughtnaught boss so thats dope

[pastel atlas]

The amount of content we are going to share in this discord

Sadly the mod essentials is not in the modpack, i use this mod to play with friends, my modem does not allow me to portfowarding, so i kinda use the mod to just make a world and invite my friends, just like the win 10 version

[digital yacht]

You can add essentials yourself

No one is stopping you

[pastel atlas]

Of course

Is there any problem that makes the mod unavailable on the oficial modpack?

[digital yacht]

Adam answered about it before:
Closed source
Black box operation
Shady monetization

[pastel atlas]

What is Black box operation

[digital yacht]

You could also use something like hamachi or any tunneling service, it's essentially the same thing

[pastel atlas]

i am searching on google but i cant find the answer

[fiery jackal]

Yea don't use essentials. There is easier ways to give your computer cancer

[digital yacht]

Black box like you can't see what's it doing while it's running

[pastel atlas]

Fr?

Why is not taken down yet, the mod is running fine on the curseforge app

[fiery jackal]

Yes. It does auto updates. On top of closed source so no one really knows what it's doing. So it could be installing anything on your computer

[digital yacht]

No proof that it's malicious but also no proof that it isn't

Puts it in limbo for modpack makers

[pastel atlas]

Is really a shame, it's a really nice feature, because some people just want to play without installing third party software

[digital yacht]

There are other similar mods to essentials that are more open but I don't know them off the top of my head

[pastel atlas]

This is something that should be on the official version a long time ago

They already made a lot of people migrate to microsoft account

[digital yacht]

The official way is to host a server

[fiery jackal]

I mean. If you want to run a server. Just use the server pack and host your own.

[digital yacht]

No port forwarding they said

Seen it on ISP modems all the time

[pastel atlas]

Yeah i know, but what i mean is the invite option should be in the official game without mods, just using the xbox system

[digital yacht]

That would require Microsoft to make their own tunneling software. They'd rather push you to rent an azure server or realms

[pastel atlas]

[digital yacht]

I don't think realms supports modded though

[pastel atlas]

Nop, it doesn't

[digital yacht]

Maybe a community server would have slots. I plan to run a couple, not sure how many others are

[ornate swallow]

yeah my isp does that it's annoying 💀

since mce2 is 1.20.1 though you can try using e4mc

its like essential without the bloat and being a sus download wrapper

[pastel atlas]

i'm gonna look about it, thx

[mental ether]

Anyone know if MC/MCE1 ran on linux? know its likely not a great gauge if mce2 will work but any idea would be nice

[digital yacht]

Any modpack runs on Linux to my knowledge. It's just running java, which is supported

As long as you can run Minecraft, you should be about to run modpacks

[fiery jackal]

its possible, but its a pain

[mental ether]

Well hopefully mce2 works better :/

[ornate swallow]

idr any specific issues with linux and mce besides I think questbook assets being named funny so it wouldn't show up properly ingame

[mild basin]

it'll definitely be more optimized for performance.....embeddium and sodium are really good optimization mods

[mental ether]

yea i just swapped over to linux recently and didnt think of how MC would run cause i dont play very often. So was kinda hoping someone knew if it was at least playable. Really hoping it works alright

[mild basin]

no one can really answer that except for adam and anyone that's privately testing the pack

[flint egret]

a group of my friends have been testing the pack on multiplayer for the last week

but to my knowledge no one uses linux

[true coral]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-3851471549750385303

[pastel atlas]

[steel furnace]

I have never heard of a ISP router not supporting port forwarding, that is wild

[steel furnace]

There are dozens of us!

[flint egret]

https://tenor.com/view/dozens-majority-tobias-funke-arrested-development-david-cross-gif-9235697

[steel furnace]

Only issue that I have had so far is that one particular sound related mod causes modpacks to crash once they try playing a sound once you reach the main menu.

The workaround is to make sure you have the OpenAL package installed, use prism launcher and make sure you have "Use system installation of OpenAL" enabled in prism's settings.

[digital yacht]

CG-NAT would lock you out of port forwarding because you don't have a public IP

[digital yacht]

Ah gotcha. I have more experience running servers via Linux. Would've thought the client would have been just as easy

[heady inlet]

how can I become your friend? The people say I make good brownies

sry for ping on reply

[fiery jackal]

You had me at brownies

[heady inlet]

I see, a fellow brownie connoisseur

[fiery jackal]

Wait. Important question. With or without nuts?

[heady inlet]

Depends on the occasion

[fiery jackal]

Nope. Only acceptable answer is none with extra chocolate chips

[heady inlet]

factualy wrong

[fiery jackal]

Name one time it's acceptable

[heady inlet]

when you make brownies for someone you dont like

[fiery jackal]

God dammit. You got me there. You are back in my good graces

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[heady inlet]

was that the entry test to become adams friend or are we just brownie buddys now?

[fiery jackal]

Sorry just brownie buddy. But you will be accept by me if you do. I even made it on Adam's friend list

[heady inlet]

I see, you made it far in life

[fiery jackal]

Eh mainly because I was helping him with some pc troubleshooting

[mild basin]

you got BROWNIES? or brownies?

[fiery jackal]

Triple chocolate chip. Yes

[heady inlet]

All types of brownies

[mild basin]

hmmmmm

[hybrid path]

To jump back up to the server and multiplayer questions is there any one hosting company people recomend more then others? Everytime I make a server for my friends we usually use bisect hosting ever since I saw they had a deal with MCE years ago but last I checked they make you pay to update a pack and I want to keep this one going for a long time with MCE2 growing and changing

[mild basin]

bisect doesn't charge you for updating a pack??

they never have and no host i've seen has done that

server hosts wouldn't be popular if they charged people 5 bucks every time a server owner needed to push an update with very few changes honestly..people wouldn't buy them

[steel furnace]

Personally I would rather just buy an extra 16GB of ram than rent a sever

[fiery jackal]

Cpu makes a big difference too

Cpu probably the most important thing for the server

[steel furnace]

Well I guess that’s true, it depends on how many people are playing on the server

I only host for myself or one other so my 5600x is plenty

[fiery jackal]

At most I have 5 or 6. But I have a 12th gen i9

[steel furnace]

Roughly similar single thread performance if memory serves

[fiery jackal]

Just gotta remember to fo a pregen

[mental ether]

sadge but thank you for the insight ❤️

Ill try to remember to give an update on release

[leaden kiln]

I7-14700k my beloved

[digital yacht]

recently went from a 5600x to a box with a 13700k, nice little boost. 5600x ran servers like a champ with pregen, rarely any lag unless people were flying at mach 100

[wary zodiac]

[potent solar]

E4mc might work, its more like local hosting

It usually runs better and isn't super intrusive, it only appears whenever you open to LAN

[steel furnace]

I hate open to LAN and any software or mod that uses it because of how it murders cpu performance for the host compared to just running a dedicated server on the same machine.

although with lighter packs like skyblock ones the performance deficit might not be too bad, could also just be an issue with my specific hardware config as well.

[ornate swallow]

some people probably just want the simplicity of clicking a button in the game itself to play with friends which I get

or ISP doesn't allow port forwarding so you can't host yourself and don't want to pay for a dedicated host

[steel furnace]

absolutely, some modpacks in general can also just be a pain in the ass to setup in general. but for me I will go from like 300fps -> 150fps when using open to lan on a large modpack which wouldnt be too bad if minecraft had decent fps lows

[ornate swallow]

personally haven't used open to LAN for modded ever so idk if it just tanks performance in general

wish there were an easy way around cgnat in my case though 💀

[steel furnace]

pretty sure it runs the server on the same thread that the client uses as the main thread but I could be mistaken

[spark swallow]

I might have missed it, but was it said if the modpack is Forge, or Fabric?

[fiery jackal]

forge

[vale vault]

yea what does opening to lan like, actually do? I remeber using it a few times when i died like suuuper far from my body and the only real thing I would be wasting is my time walking all the way back lol, but i did notice the game played a bit differently loading stuff and sometimes mining would lag and would have to restart after a while

also that open to lan thingy on singleplayer worlds is a cognitohazard ngl, like I only use it for getting back to stuff early on when i didnt have extra pearls but eeeee, always in the back of my mind when I need 1000 (x material) and i could just lan it lmao

[digital yacht]

Open to LAN just makes the single player world into a local server so that people in your network can play without needing a dedicated server

[vale vault]

oOooOooOo, and why would it tank preformance so much even if its just you? (sorry if its a stupid question i know likie next to nothing of servers >.< )

[digital yacht]

It wouldn't really. If it's just you, all it does is open the port for other players. Maybe a bit of overhead to have things processing different in case another player joins but it shouldn't be machine lagging unless you were already maxxing out your system beforehand

It does essentially run a local server though which is slightly more resource intensive

[vale vault]

oOooOoooo, couldve been at the time the yea, my cpu was def throttling back on my old pc

thx tho, il keep in mind for whenever i play lan with my imaginary friends

:c

[digital yacht]

Could also be a RAM issue. If you allocated 8gb for the modpack and it's using 7gb, then you open to LAN, it needs some of that RAM to run the new local server, introducing another resource bottleneck

It's usually easier just to spin up a server on the local machine manually and have everyone connect to it rather than use Open to LAN. Then it has its own resource pool and CPU threads.
And nowadays is not very difficult to do at all

[fiery jackal]

Open to lan is fine if its only like 1 or 2 poeple, but they would need to be physically connected to the same router as the host. Without using sketchy software.

[arctic mirage]

one thing i wanted to ask; how long has MCE2 been in devlopment?

having 2 week minecraft urges, but i'm trying to put them off so i can dump that into MCE2

[ornate swallow]

if you mean the 1.20.1 version that work started at around the beginning of this year tmk

but if you mean in general that goes back actual years atp

[flint egret]

There was many variations of the pack over the last 4y. But the core pack that we're getting this month was started in January.

[forest sail]

im soo excited I even have holiday planned so I can play all day

and looking forward to dying to the warden a zillion times it looks so scary must get rockets stockpiled ….

[atomic lance]

Warden is changed?

[ornate swallow]

we gave it an orbital laser cannon and its also an immortal cultivator at the peak realm with strength you could only dream of /s

[atomic lance]

"worlds most expensive nosebleed" type laser cannon

[steel furnace]

just 6 days after MCE2 release we will be getting GTNH 2.8 as well, this is going to be a great summer for modpack players

[slim roost]

oh no

gtnh...

i quit after 1 day

[broken dew]

Pardon?

[steel furnace]

Most certainly not for everyone, but it can be a good time sink for those that enjoy it

[slim roost]

yeah i had a horrible time lol maybe ill try again

[leaden kiln]

Gtnh?

[ornate swallow]

greg tech new horizons

[vale vault]

aka your other fulltime job if you want to complete it lmao

(thoise kinds of packs horrify me, like cool in theory but too much automation and min maxing and optimising for my mind to take)

props to anyone that actually have the pateince to do it o.O

il stick with the kitchen sinks like mce my beloved

[digital yacht]

the adhd addled among us agree

[fiery birch]

Do you like organizing cables? Do you like finding that one mekanism pipe with some random gas...? just become an industrial engineer! Optimization and Automation! (we will ignore the 10 times the base has been completely rebuilt...annoying the group i play with...)

[flint egret]

Immersive in-game tutorial

[digital yacht]

The return of clippy

A really friendly interface that introduces people to quests and mods would be nice. Some of my players get intimidated if the quest book is more than one page

[flint egret]

that was my attempt at that, its very difficult to make any changes to FTBQ though. I tried making it as approachable as possible.

[steel furnace]

you could also make multiple versions of the in game tutorial which there are a few ways that could be implemented.

one way that I think is interesting is that you will get a new book or tutorial once you reach a new stage of the game or reach new dimensions that shows the player with all the relevant changes or differences. that way new players wont get bombarded with a bunch of information at once.

maybe using the book opens up a menu that has several different options/tutorials with some of them greyed out, hovering over one of them will tell the player the prerequisites to unlock the tutorial to give more of that gated feel that you do with progression. I just think that it would be cool if the tutorial was also tied in with progression with how the further you progress the more you unlock.

although now that I think about it you could instead do that for a logbook which would help implement lore with the modpack, But I do admit that doing all that wouldnt be an easy task 🗿

[flint egret]

I like the ideas but its far too much work for for foreseeable future

That could take weeks to do

[digital yacht]

I'm pretty sure FTBQ lets you hide chapters until you finish certain quests. Getting a new book per region sounds like an inventory clog

[flint egret]

but something for later perhaps

[flint egret]

No I've done that, I mostly meant outside of the tools provided I can't do anything else to make it easier to digest

[digital yacht]

An AI NPC who follows you around and helps you play the game. Just an easy 5 years development time

System requirements: dual 5090 and 128 GB RAM

[broken dew]

Omg I love him

[mild basin]

I love the little rat in the corner, it feels a lot more interactive like that

What's that other item though that's on cooldown......gateway??

[craggy socket]

Great start for the tutorial 🙂 The potential future hardmode version of the pack should have opening the book for the first time set the health of the user to 1 heart and set the time to night.

[bold forge]

that's just immoral

[flint bolt]

spawned with no clothes 😔

[pastel atlas]

crab

[mild basin]

rat

[compact spruce]

isn't it perfect for chaos mode though?

[pliant igloo]

Less evil but still funny would be an age 5 dragon flying overhead when the tutorial book is opened. It doesn't actually do anything, just flies overhead, roars and despawns when it is out of the player's render distance.

[vale vault]

best quest book ever

or. well so far, havent played a pack that has THAT in it yet omg

[vale vault]

brutal and i love it, its like the modded equivilant of a creeper hiss soundboard

[mild basin]

it's not the QUEST book but more like a short tutorial to teach new players about the pack and certain features

[runic harbor]

Is electrobob wizardry going to be in this ?

It is my favorite magic mod and it's troll potential is unfathomable

[compact spruce]

i don't think it'll be in the initial release, but it's entirely possible to be added later

[pliant igloo]

Iron's Spells will be in however.

[digital yacht]

Electrobob is still in it's port phase. Progress is on their discord

[steel glacier]

is ice and fire gonna be in the pack?

if so is there a chance the dragon caves could have slightly better loot? especially for higher tier if its possible

[atomic lance]

Oh yeah how is loot going to work in the pack? Is it with the usual lootr mod and customized or do you guys have your own system

[pastel atlas]

hmmm i am exited to have my inventory full of items of mods that i don't know yet

[naive panther]

Ice and Fire is one of those mods I just can't stand personally, I tend to edit the config to turn their spawn rate to zero until I've explored the map for X days, then turn them back to default once that time passes so I can go dragon hunting without getting harrassed in home zones

[compact spruce]

You can set the safe radius pretty high if you're worried about running into stuff early on

[hybrid path]

speaking of loot, do we know if it will all be normal chests or Ive seen some packs that have client side loot to where everyone can get stuff

[fiery jackal]

That is lootr and I think it's I the pack. So it's instanced loot per person

[digital yacht]

Instanced loot op on servers

[digital yacht]

Good to know. I hate dragons showing up right at spawn

[mild basin]

EBW has a 1.20.1 port in the works, no one knows when it'll be released

[mild basin]

Instanced loot is necessary on servers

[digital yacht]

Especially for my loot goblin friends

[runic harbor]

Ohhhh that sucks hopefully it will release soon

[latent crag]

Not sure if this is the right chat to ask, but will mce2 server pack be available on release day?

If anyone knows

[digital yacht]

Iirc, yes. Curseforge will have it so any mod launchers that use curseforge as the backend too

[latent crag]

Swag thanks!

[pliant igloo]

Satisfactory players can at least be distracted by 1.1 starting in a couple of days.

[lean helm]

is mce2 still on track to release on the 20th

[summer igloo]

No word of otherwise

[white willow]

i think it should be delayed

[sterile patrol]

That's THIS timer.

[sharp crystal]

Has it been stated if we’ll have a modest prior to the 20th or is list still subject to change prior to release?

[white willow]

I could be wrong but I think Adam said we aren't getting the mod list early in a previous stage

[fiery jackal]

penguin is correct. No early anything

[mild basin]

but we got an early release date

[flint egret]

what a great idea

🤔

[broken dew]

!release

!when

I forgot what it was

Icl

[fiery jackal]

that is not a command and if it was, you wouldnt be able to do it in this channel

[broken dew]

Wasnt what I was trying to do

Its the copypasta about delaying mce2

[flint egret]

release date

Oh i thought that triggered it

[bold forge]

if we're talking about the thing ivan says the trigger keywords are when mce2

[still lagoon]

There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.

[ornate swallow]

?ismce2out

[still lagoon]

No

[slim roost]

great now there's another 5 day delay

[unreal belfry]

Crab

🦀

[leaden kiln]

I need this modpack now bruh im bouta lose it

[vale vault]

same

the hype is unreal

been waiting YEAAAARS for this

this is going to be my next 'forever' 'eternal' mc world

[leaden kiln]

Yeah mce has been my favorite for over 5 years now, I cannot stress how excited I am for the 2nd

[mild basin]

i love mceternal and play whenever i have the motivation to do so even though it's not for long but i've been waiting as well for mce2

i just hope we get a unique modpack in modern 1.20.1 that brings stuff no others have been able to do

[digital yacht]

anime pig

[mild basin]

give all mobs anime eyes and we'll be good

[broken dew]

Porkus

[flint egret]

porkus is a powerful ally

one must not underestimate porkus

[broken dew]

I loved the part in Porkus where Porkus said "It's porkin time" and porked all over everyone

[pliant igloo]

Um, phrasing?

[slim roost]

Add a chicken named honk but no bonk

[digital yacht]

summoner/pet build when

[abstract imp]

I want to pet him

Can we have a peting animation?

[vague abyss]

glad to see mce2 will have no shortage of weird little freaks

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-good-morning-blow-kiss-kisses-gif-16076571

[mild basin]

that pig is not a freak, stop being mean to him

[vale vault]

I thought that’s the final boss o.o

Oh noooo oh gods I committed it again did I just ping reply oh gods

I’m so sorry I’m on mobile ._. Please mercy

[flint egret]

i dont mind pings

all good

[vale vault]

yippeeeeeeeee

[broken dew]

did you guys see the porkus sequel was announced?
its called porkus the squeakuel

[tawdry rapids]

I'm in a situation now where more than one of my friends will make an mce2 server cuz I recommended it to them and I'll have to choose one to spend more time on

[digital yacht]

Convince them to merge?

Is the Discord event or the tickcounter timer the actual release time?

[mild basin]

yes

i'd assume so

but with curseforge's system, it'll probably be later? idk

[compact spruce]

Adam can just get it approved in advance and then only make it public when the timer hits 0

[digital yacht]

yes to which lmao. The tickcounter website is a good margin ahead of the Discord Event

[vale vault]

I hope mce2 has a way to trap mobs easier like the soul vials before they were nerfed in mce so I can make my mob zoo againnnn

Omg wait I wonder if I can get dragons or maybe a Medusa on a create seat and use a train to drag them there lmao

If it works Adam plz don’t fix it’s funny, imagine a cyclops’s as a train conductor

[untold pilot]

I think by default create's conductor mobs are on a whitelist of sorts, as I tried to get a Shiba as a conductor once and it wouldn't accept the hat

[vale vault]

Oooo but you could still get the shiba on the seat by default right?

[untold pilot]

Yeah, it sat like the good dog it was

[vale vault]

I remember getting Alex mobs… mobs on there in another mod pack

Yippeee

Rats haveeee to be on the whitelist it’s not even a question

[flint egret]

[sonic sail]

apple smoked bacon anyone?

[fiery jackal]

anyone smell ham?

[broken dew]

Porkus Tree: Applewood Smoked Ham

[digital yacht]

mce1, summoning pendulum is op

Find em in dungeons and stuff iirc

[sonic stone]

Do we know if we will have Thaumcraft or Bewitchment?

Or generally any of the other magic mods for this MC edition? I know Astral Sorcery and Vampirism, as well as Botania, but no others

[boreal grail]

iirc no thaum at launch for sure, but it may (or may not) be added in an update

unless thaum7 is 1.21 in which case nah lol

[ornate swallow]

astral isn’t on 1.20 afaik

[sonic stone]

I thought MCE2 was 1.16.5?

[boreal grail]

it was until it wasnt

[sonic stone]

I kind of checked out for a while when waiting so I didnt know it changed

[boreal grail]

ye it was a huge plot twist actually

[sonic stone]

Any clue what other big magic mods are going to be on it then?

I played a lot of 1.7 and 1.12.2, but nothing for 1.20 so I dont know whats good for that version lol

[boreal grail]

irons is in for sure

[sonic stone]

Irons?

[pliant igloo]

https://legacy.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/irons-spells-n-spellbooks

[boreal grail]

i can never remember the exact full name but its a newer magic mod

that ^

more combat focused afaik but i havent played much with it

[pliant igloo]

There are a few decent utility spells like the Spectral Hammer. The Recall spell is quite useful as well.

[sonic stone]

Huh, looks kind of cool! Doesnt seem to be as advanced as something like Electroblobs, Bewitchment, or Thaumcraft though

I really enjoy the huge magic mods that take days/weeks to finish, anything like that?

[boreal grail]

ooo, elder scrolls style mark and recall in mc would be awesome

occultism might be in? that would definitely fit the bill

[ornate swallow]

ars probably but idr

ik there was some advocation for occultism as well but again idk for sure what’s in

personally not well versed in modern mods tbh

[pliant igloo]

One of those advocates is me. I think Goat is as well..

[ornate swallow]

I recall it being neat but I never went too deep into it

[pliant igloo]

It's not that cool, unfortunately. It just ports you back to your spawn point. At least it doesn't care what dimension you're in.

[boreal grail]

eh, thats still pretty good

[pliant igloo]

There was one time I got the bees angry in the Bumblezone. Recall was very useful at that moment.

[topaz yew]

is the world of mce2 gonna 'come to you' like you'll need to defend your base from X mob or smth

anything that isnt that dude from mce1 that kidnapped you is aight

[digital yacht]

will be pretty good in a modpack without /home

[mild basin]

ars has a teleportation method 🙂 it can be used to also teleport mobs to let's say the end dimension over the void

it has scrolls for one-usage as well as an actual teleportation portal similar to a nether portal that you make out of sourcestone and can put a scroll in it to permanently mark that location to teleport between 2 portals if you have multiple bases

[pliant igloo]

Or have a friend on a server that set up a base far away from yours.

[mild basin]

that too

if you include ars additions, it has a better teleportation method but i've never used it myself

[pliant igloo]

Another really useful ars spell is putting a rune on the ground that can launch whoever steps on it dozens of blocks into the air. Very nice if you have a glider or an Elytra.

[mild basin]

you can also just have a personal spell for that since the spellbook has 10 slots for whatever you want

i've always loved ars for utility and automation but never get to use it because i get access to better methods sooner

i really hope mce2 changes this....ars is super underrated for automation, it's just....mekanism and create exist

[primal heart]

Do we know anything about the quest features? I liked how in the first one we had currency we could spend in a shop.

[broken dew]

seems theres ging to be a stock market of sorts

[fiery jackal]

there will be currency and shop, but some of those features are still being worked on

[primal heart]

awesome, thanks!

[flint egret]

unlikely to be there at launch though as emper is making it all from scratch

as ftbmoney does not exist on 1.20!

but coins are present as quest rewards so when you play you can collect coins and spend them when the shop is out!

[primal heart]

ohh, I didn't realize that about ftbmoney

[digital yacht]

time to stuff chests with coins

[flint egret]

i have also given the goblin trader hundreds of modded and custom items for sale

so it can act as a sort of shop for now

[mild basin]

hundreds?

[flint egret]

yep

[mild basin]

oh boy

[flint egret]

it has three tiers of trades, common, uncommon and rare so between all three i populated them with items i think suit a goblin trader

[digital yacht]

time to kidnap persuade the goblins to stay near my base

[mild basin]

goblin trader gonna be rollin in coins

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/spanky-throwing-money-cash-money-our-gang-little-rascals-gif-7602783295867595867

[sharp crystal]

Is Mr Goblino accepting these coins as trade or will it be other items? 🤔

[flint egret]

the coins are tied to the player like old ftb money coins

they are not items

gobby just accepts emeralds currently

[sharp crystal]

Honestly I struggle to find use for my emerald sometimes so a welcome addition

[flint egret]

an example

he also trades common vanilla resources for modded ores

[mild basin]

i see loot crates and..apotheosis

[flint egret]

no apotheosis

we're using the same free texture library if i were to guess

[mild basin]

no apotheosis? ah, what's the item that looks like endersurge then

above the raw iron

[flint egret]

custom item

[mild basin]

gotcha

i also see the gliders mod i think in the second screenshot?

sounds fun all in all, can't wait to make a spawning area for goblin traders

[broken dew]

does it make me a gazillionare ?

[vague abyss]

hey lead and nickel from thermal!

[flint egret]

if someone can find an appropriate texture to use i will make an el gato balatro pet like porkus

[cobalt monolith]

are the lootboxes otherwise obtainable other than the quest rewards and the shop/goblin trader?

[flint egret]

-> quest rewards
-> goblin trader
-> champions

[vague abyss]

always liked the lootboxes

[sharp crystal]

Speaking of, when are loot boxes going to be 99 cents a pop Adam?

[flint egret]

when inflation stops

[broken dew]

inflation never ceases

[sonic stone]

Anyone know if there is word about us getting a mod list prior to release? I've never once played 1.20 so Id like to have a bit of time to learn the mods before launching a server with my friends

[flint egret]

no modlist yet i'm afraid

but i might drop it a day or two before the release.

[mild basin]

Oh?

Would be interesting to see

[cobalt monolith]

what are champions?

sorry im not up to date on the mce lore

[upper lynx]

Standard mobs with crazy effects, they also can effect bosses. So just imagine a dragon that can regen, reflect damage, adapt to your damage, etc.

[cobalt monolith]

still wouldn't stand a chance against my nuke from [insert not balanced/overpowered mod here]

[upper lynx]

I’m curious how the damage on a nuke works, it’s it just deleting everything or is it doing actual damage

[digital yacht]

Depends on the mod. Some deal flat damage and apply radiation, some just deal max damage and call it a day

[upper lynx]

I’m thinking of the one from Alex caves

[steel furnace]

Will there be repeatable quests you can do for coins? I can’t remember if this was a thing you can do in ftb quests or not.

[compact spruce]

Yes

That's what the player shop in mce1 was

So I'd be surprised if mce2 didn't have more of that

[slim roost]

I pray for dinosaur

[tawdry rapids]

separate friend groups

[digital yacht]

combine them into the giga group

ezpz

[vale vault]

NO LONGER IS IT DAYS AWAY

IT IS LESS THAN A YEAR

... omg i just, muscle memories year rather than week

what, have you done to us eternal, WHY

[vale vault]

time to permanently make them a funny named goblin companion i kidnapped yoinked from the wild... just like D&D

[vale vault]

also usually has like % more health, so aka with mce scaling imagine a wither with 50000 health if your unlucky

[mild basin]

bro, a dragon with ADAPTABLE would be absolutely terrifying

[upper lynx]

Imagine if a wolf/other tameable mob could be a champion, the eternal pupper

[upper lynx]

The ice and fire ones, yeah that would be awful

[mild basin]

Warden with hasty

They're already so fast so imagine them at even 50% increased speed

[leaden kiln]

Fuck it ill just make myself adaptable

[quartz trout]

is this still confirmed to be in mce2 ?

[compact spruce]

that was before the move to 1.20.1 so it's entirely uncertain

[quartz trout]

damn </3

[flint bolt]

could you believe it guys

just a week away

im so excited

[digital yacht]

Ready to blast my server with pregen for a whole day before releasing my friends on it

[timid otter]

Cant believe im excited for a minecraft modpack

Thats like the most unemployed thing ever

[mild basin]

it's not just any modpack though, that's the thing

[digital yacht]

Nothing wrong with being excited to play a classic game

[mild basin]

i'm saying mce2 isn't just "a minecraft modpack"

[viral swan]

we get MCE2 before GTA6

[abstract imp]

Give it to meeeeeeeeeee I can't wait anymore

This and biohazard are my most Anticipated modpacks ever

[sonic sail]

[topaz yew]

im hyped

fuck

i have to work adam, can you postpone launch

6 months from now would be great

[true coral]

Lmao fr. I accepted a 90 day travel contract that starts the 23rd. 0% chance I can play until October now 😭

[fiery jackal]

Just think about it this way. It will cook and be even better when you can play it

[true coral]

Yeeeaa, I do! Just gotta pray my buds don't get too impatient and start before I get home

But after the contract? 1mo unemployment MCE2 phase

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-3851471549750385303

[broken dew]

im waiting til october anyways to let it cook a little

pack only made the switch to 1.20.1 a few months ago

would like to give it some time for adam and the team to polish and add more quests bc I quest hunt

[fiery jackal]

That is when you heard about it...

[broken dew]

ah maybe I misunderstood

it read in the announcement the change olnly happened earlier thbis year

i mean still

let em cook

[flint egret]

I think that's a pretty good way to look at it

[pastel atlas]

7 days left

les gooooo

Daily check in

[sharp crystal]

Would it be too much to ask for a 7 days of MCE2? 👀 a little sneak peak each day till release?

[flint bolt]

to run a dedicated server on my pc i just need a good amount of RAM and some cpu power yea?

[digital yacht]

Strong single core performance and for RAM, I recommend 4gb base for the server and then add about 300-500mb per player depending on pack size.

[fiery jackal]

Yes, and decent internet if you are having people outside your immediate network join you

[flint bolt]

thank you ❤️

[digital yacht]

Been a bit since I looked into internet requirements for servers. Looks like the concensus is about 1mbps upload per player that will be connected at a time. Keep in mind that your upload would be shared by the rest of the network too

[vale vault]

more the better always ofcccc, especially once players start to hit lightspeed travel

[mild basin]

would it be too late to ask for a port of the tinker's planner mod from 1.16.5 and 1.18.2?

[ornate swallow]

for the release version yeah it's way too late unless the mod is like 2 lines of code

but if people on the team like the mod enough that we want it ported there's always at least a slight chance

[digital yacht]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[craggy socket]

That looks like a neat mod

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/rainn-wilson-shh-secret-prank-gif-17131726

[deep rain]

oh man 1 week. Will other launchers that snag from curseforge take longer? I've never downloaded a modpack on launch ngl.

[fiery jackal]

If they can pull from the Curseforge API, they should have it available. Most of the staff use Prism, so that is the most recommended one.

[dull pasture]

will there be a heap of tech quests?

[fiery jackal]

there are tech mods, as for quests, you will need to wait for that

[dull pasture]

hoping its similar tech level to mc 1

[digital yacht]

There are not any infinite resource gens from what we have been told so end game tech is different

[viral swan]

question for the support team

will there be a server download file when MCE2 release?

[still lagoon]

There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.

[viral swan]

or will i need to install a forge server manually with FTBessentials

[bold forge]

the plan is to have a server pack available asap

[flint egret]

I already have one ready and have been testing on it with most changes I make to the pack

so it should be fairly stable

[mild basin]

use e4mc instead, it's better and doesn't try to sell you cosmetics for 10 bucks each lmao

[flint egret]

essentials is different from ftbessentials

ftbessentials is the mod that adds some useful commands like /rtp , /home , /tpa etc

[mild basin]

there's the essential mod, i think that's what they were talking about, i know what essentials is

[flint egret]

but i fail to see how it was relevant, they were asking about ftbessentials not essentials

[sharp crystal]

Do you mean there won’t be any tech related quests on release? Or we have to wait and see what tech quests there are? 🤔

[flint egret]

there are a few chapters relating to tech and more will come with time

quests are one of the most time consuming types of content to produce when you want to make them high quality

and one of the easiest content to produce when you don't care about quality

[fiery jackal]

I was more referring to. I can't talk about what concent is available

[broken dew]

so real (certain modpacks which wont be named)

[mild basin]

they were asking about opening a server

[flint egret]

yeah but most people are going to make a server the proper way

porkus responds to music now 🐷 🎵

[slim roost]

what is the purpose of thy porkus

im gonna put him over a fire and cook him

[flint egret]

too existential of a question for porkus

[flint egret]

banned

[fiery jackal]

Double ban

[slim roost]

no porkus for you

im not sharing

[buoyant zodiac]

😂

[slim roost]

if i eat him do i get his wisdom

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/illgetyou-accident-gif-9654841

[mild basin]

now i can jam to the MCE2 theme with my portable jukebox in my backpack

we..will have sophisticated backpacks, right?

[chilly lily]

It's been asked before but the answers have been pretty vague. Will quests be available on day one?

[midnight rose]

what about all the quests that were made pre 1.20 switch? or do they not really apply anymore?

[broken dew]

have that banger kickoff as you try and kill a cataclysm boss

[flint egret]

vague? i have said there are quests and posted quests like a hundred times

[flint egret]

anything that could be ported was ported

[chilly lily]

Someone asked earlier today and they said quests wouldn't be available for a while.

[flint egret]

and more will be ported later

[flint egret]

no one said that

point me to where someone said that

[broken dew]

no he assumed that based off his own question

[chilly lily]

Sorry yesterday

And no I didn't assume anything.

[broken dew]

maybe im just weird but that reads to me like youre going to have to wait for loads of quests

[flint egret]

the only devs who can or cannot confirm anything are myself and emperdog

[chilly lily]

Ok good to know.

[flint egret]

other staff are not involved with the project

[chilly lily]

Appreciate the clarity Adam!

[broken dew]

adam can you confirm that the overworld is in mce2

[flint egret]

but yeah there are a good amount of quests on day1

[slim roost]

banish persius to porkus

[mild basin]

death by rats

[broken dew]

okay but wouldnt it be funny if porkus became like an eldritch horror if you didnt keep it fed

like dont mention in anywhere

[slim roost]

porkus is the final boss

[flint egret]

||if you feed porkus golden food he gets stronger ||

[broken dew]

||based||

[slim roost]

||that means even more ham and bacon||

[flint egret]

if porkus dies he just returns to his phylactery i mean his summoning item

[slim roost]

im gonna automate the process of feeding him

and then eating him

[midnight rose]

https://tenor.com/view/cranimal-gif-12556222204789108720

[fiery jackal]

Sorry, I shouldve been more specific. As adam said above, Only him and Emp can confirm things. When i said "you will need to wait for that". I means, you will need to wait for release and check that out for yourself.

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/no-stop-pleading-begging-please-gif-17517986

[lean roost]

Wait this is a minecraft modpack?

[midnight rose]

how have you been in this server for two years and not know that

[mild basin]

what did bro think this was

[true coral]

Me Crying Eternal

[flint egret]

cursed new pet unlocked

[slim roost]

😥

that thing is creepy

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-friend-shaped-mane-if-not-gif-17210396802398569483

[midnight rose]

he gonna slime you out twin 💔

[slim roost]

he might pull a kirby

he freaky

[mild basin]

https://tenor.com/view/steamed-hams-aurora-borealis-what-is-happening-fagetti-wtf-gif-16514726

[true coral]

Freaky nugget

[true coral]

So there aarrreee inventory pets in MCE2

I'm telling everyone

[broken dew]

thats something out of my fever dreams adam

[fiery jackal]

Are you referring to inventory pets?

[flint egret]

they are in a sense... inventory* pets*

they sit in your inventory and can be summoned

[broken dew]

you should make them curios

and they just spawn when you have them equipped

that way there is a cost to having them

:D

[true coral]

Yea forgot the name lol

[flint egret]

i'd have to rewrite how they work :> but i could make curios that have a chance to summon it when you get attacked or something

[broken dew]

ahh I see

[true coral]

Inventory pets confirmed

[broken dew]

that could be neat

the reason I say is bc like in terraria you have pets

[true coral]

/s

[broken dew]

mind you in that game they are

functionally different

but I always thought smth similar in mc would be cool

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-copium-cope-harder-meme-coping-gif-9886515052600137009

[true coral]

[true coral]

Smells so good

[vale vault]

mce2 official soundtrack vinyl music disk irl when?

[pliant igloo]

Or possibly when the players health is reduced to a certain amount.

[abstract imp]

Peak incoming in 5 days

[digital yacht]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[vague abyss]

heard chat of infinite resource gen not rly being a thing in the pack, i assume that means the easy iron and quartz gen from create might be gone which i do fw a bit honestly

mainly bcz i already have ideas for cooler ways to gen stuff (those fuckass tOREtosies from quark)

[mossy totem]

I CAN'T WAIT RAAHHH

My birthday is literally June 20th and I'm far more excited for MCE 2 greatest birthday gift ever seen fr 🙏

[mild basin]

it feels so good to have like something you've been waiting for to happen on your birthday, i've had that happen a couple times

[heady inlet]

so when does Porkus learn how to do gangnam style or shuffle?

[flint bolt]

can porkus cook for me like those cats in monster hunter

[slim roost]

cook porkus

[small flare]

This may have been answered already but will something similar to the Doggy Talents and the special food be coming back? This is sounding similar but I am curious

[vale vault]

i meannnnnnn you could always go the accursed vanilla farms for that stuff

still even if like, standalone generators dont hazave infinite gen I like the idea of setting up mining areas with create and getting all the ores you will ever need once you set up the automated machines and train infrastructure

[mossy totem]

Yk??? Was waiting for MCE 2 for like 5 years and it drops on my birthday I couldn’t be more ecstatic lol

[mild basin]

i mean, we may have crude automation, won't know til we play the pack in a few days

[ocean kettle]

Is this gonna be a complete version or like a public beta

[fiery jackal]

Kinda both. It's not 100% conplete and there is content to come

[flint egret]

It'll probably never be 100% complete hahah

I have many ideas for updates

[mild basin]

ah don't say that adam, you'll finish it in about 100 years or so

good luck though, you deserve a huge break for this ❤️

[heady inlet]

what will be completed first? One Piece Manga or McE2

[mild basin]

probably one piece

[broken dew]

like the enigmatic chaos update

i will sacrifice my first born for enigmatic I love the cursed ring

[vale vault]

The eternal mod pack

[vale vault]

Heat death of the universe irl update before mce3

[naive panther]

Couldn't find a concrete answer searching in the server so figured here was best to ask, will MCE2 feature the 1.20 port of tinkers?

[bold forge]

#1143742498808799232 message

[naive panther]

I apparently didn't search hard enough, thanks bud

[vague abyss]

ive never set up a vanilla iron golem farm im not that evil… yet

[uncut chasm]

Everyone's time will come when they turn to the dark side

[boreal grail]

were so close... it really is Soon™️

5 days in tho im gonna have to start juggling playing persona 5X too...

[small flare]

5 more days and I will no longer be scrambling for a new game to fill my time

[mild basin]

technically 4

[boreal grail]

soon well get to bust out the majoras mask dawn of the (x) day screens

in 7.5 hours actually, i just checked

[mild basin]

7.5 hours? where'd you get that number...

[digital yacht]

Check the timer link Adam posted. It's 3 days and some change til release since it releases midnight Dublin time

https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/7370431/mce2-release-date

[white willow]

draconic evolution update when?

[mild basin]

3 days? wait, it'll be the 19th for US? i AM reading that correctly aren't i? 😭

[flint egret]

the time is unreleated

i cant say for certain what time it will drop on friday

[hollow dagger]

Not sure if this has been asked before but. Will there be launch day support on any server hosting service for the mod pack ? I dont think my usual toaster will be able to do this pack justice. My friends and I are taking a whole week off to play C:

[boreal grail]

eh, still close enough to warrant majoras mask day cards

[bold talon]

Delayed till summer of 2222 August 22nd

[digital yacht]

ah I see. I was hoping to get it Thursday in the US lol

[digital yacht]

#1143742498808799232 message

[hollow dagger]

Thank you !

[timid otter]

is the hatman gonna be included in the pack?

[boreal grail]

depends on whether or not you take 40 benadryls before playing, and/or your warp level if thaum gets added later /j

[midnight rose]

will the mace be in it

[timid otter]

Theres a mod that causes him to appear when you go to sleep by your bedside lol

But idk what mod this feature is a part of

[pliant igloo]

It's okay, Adam. We'll blame any delays on Curseforge.

[vale vault]

breaking news curseforge mysteriously firebomed after recent modpack release on platform was delayed by 30 seconds

[steel glacier]

By chance is Ender IO gonna be in the pack? That would be amazing

[maiden edge]

How long do you think will it be to 100% all the quest time wise

[mild basin]

depends on the player, not everyone plays the same amount of time or speedruns quests

[bold forge]

it'll probably also change quite a bit after a few updates

we're definitely gonna be adding new stuff over time

quests most obviously

[mild basin]

bro did dawn at night 😭

[digital yacht]

bro forgot about timezones

[gleaming torrent]

EST supremecy 😤

[boreal grail]

nyeh, i was going off the total hour count

[timid otter]

Good thing Im unemployed

I will be able to indulge in this modpack to the fullest extent

[sand lake]

couldn't be happier 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[true coral]

[boreal grail]

fr, ive been looking for work but thank god the job market sucks lmao

[sharp crystal]

3 DAYS LETS GOOOOO

Holding out hope for that mod list prior to launch 👀

[topaz geyser]

do we know if modular powersuits is going to be in 2

[mild basin]

doubt it, adam has said he won't be adding anything too powerful, but idk how strong the powersuits actually are so

idk if they're more on the level of the mekasuit or AE2's quantum armor

[leaden kiln]

This pack got me wishing i was unemployed LMAO

[vale vault]

play at work, trust me you cant get fired for playing this amazingness

[boreal grail]

bit late, but

[digital yacht]

just work from home, never know what's going on

[mild basin]

i think this was done like, a day early..yea?

[boreal grail]

nah, when i posted that the countdown said ~1:21:00:00, or 45 hours

im aware the countdown isnt exact, i just really like majoras mask

[mild basin]

no, yea, majora's mask is great

[dull pasture]

Can we get a sneak peak of the quest chapters 😉

[topaz yew]

will mce2 run with 8gb ?

i may or may not have bought a laptop for it

[digital yacht]

8gb dedicated or the entire machine has 8gb?

You can definitely get larger packs to run on 8gb dedicated if you turn down your render distance and visuals.
If the machine only has 8gb max, oof

[topaz yew]

max

imma upgrade but not by the 20th lmao

my day-to-day machine is 16 so its fine but unfortunately thats what i have for launch lmao

[cobalt monolith]

Is a lite version planned? Wouldn't apply to me but just curious

[topaz yew]

not even the full version is fully planned xd

[leaden kiln]

Yeah im gonna buy 32gb ddr5 just to allocate the whole of it to mce2

That way I have 32 for my pc and 32 for mce2

[topaz yew]

it doesnt work well

8gb is prolly all you should allocate

allocating 12gb with 16gb gives worse performance than 8, i've found

idk about 32/32

but 8g is fine

[leaden kiln]

64 gb

64 for pc

64 for mce2

[plush mortar]

I’m curious how many mods are in the pack at launch. That would be a good way to determine the amount of RAM you will need to allocate to run.

[timid otter]

I only have 16 so 8 will have to do it lol

I would buy some more but I have to feed my warhammer addiction which is quite expensive

[fiery jackal]

If you can run ATM10 you should be fine for the most part

[fiery jackal]

As long as you aren't doing things like OBS or a lot of steaming you can use up to 12gb out of 16 safely

[sonic sail]

good to know

[fiery jackal]

its not a exact 1/1 comparison, but its the closest we have

[sonic sail]

it is a fair amount to give before release though

[steel furnace]

giving yourself more swap space will give you more wiggle room as well

The thing you want to change is the paging file which setting to 16GB should be enough, once your ram starts to get full windows starts loading off low priority processes onto windows swap space or virtual memory (the paging file)

Extra swap space definitely makes more demanding modpacks more playable for me on my 16GB system

As long as you don’t have a hard drive or sata SSD swap space is a great crutch

[flint egret]

to all the people asking if 1.0 is a beta or the "full thing", its worth mentioning that MCE2 1.0 is the starting point, based on feedback and with all the updates i have planned the pack will take on a whole new form as time goes on! i just needed to get the project out so i can begin refining and improving. its a solid base to work from, just like MCE1 was when it released. although it already has infinitely more custom stuff than MCE1 ever did.

just leaving that there so people can point to it when asked

[desert lintel]

Dumb question, Sorry if this has already been asked, but for those making a server for mce2, how will it work with the easy, normal and chaos mode(coming soon from what i saw) how will this affect setting up servers? How do you make the server easy normal or chaos from that selection?

[bold forge]

most likely, it will be set in a config file in the modpack's root folder or something

though i can't really say for sure because there hasn't been much work towards the framework for that system, just the concepting

[desert lintel]

I gotcha, do we atleast know what the default will be? Im assuming normal?

[bold forge]

yes

[desert lintel]

Awesome, thank you! And just double checking, last question, chaos is still a coming soon thing?

[bold forge]

yes, it'll be more complex to implement than the easy one, most likely

[flint egret]

easy one is essentially just going to be pure kitchen sink with less difficulty scaling more than likely

chaos will be a whole new experience

[desert lintel]

Sounds like chaos, I love it.

[true coral]

I can't remember if we asked this during one of the streams 🤔 is there a challenge mode in the works by chance?

[flint egret]

that is/will be the chaos mode

[true coral]

:O

Epic

[median stone]

will chaos be client side or server side? it would be nice for each player to choose what mode they want on a server. I definitely want to play on chaos mode but others on my server would want to play normal or easy.

[flint egret]

it'll be server based

because it will include recipe changes and stuff

too hard to make it client based

if not outright impossible

[bold forge]

yeah no making it individual player or client based would be way too difficult

[median stone]

could it be implemented to work player to player still?

[bold forge]

not without the possibility for a lot of jank

recipes are based entirely on the server in modern versions

the only means to make them change per player would be to program something into the recipe that tells it to not work unless the player has chosen to be on that difficulty

it's not unreasonable to implement, but it would end up with jank

you'd also end up with double recipes in JEI at that point, so it could become confusing to know which recipe you're supposed to use for your mode

unless a truly gargantuan number of recipe IDs were synced to the client and it was told to hide them

but that feels like it would be far too much work

[flint egret]

too hard to maintain too

[arctic mirage]

genuinely so excited for this, just kind of vibrating in my seat waiting for it to release lol

[sonic sail]

thats exactly what atoms do when provided energy

[quartz zinc]

wich will be de terrain gen mod?

like, to search for nice biomes in the wiki

[vale vault]

cant wait for the irl rapture update .5 seconds before mce releases

[timid otter]

I would have to step in if that were to happen

the world is not ending before I play mce2

[vale vault]

cant wait to use all the broken items nowwwwww before they get disabled later ._.

(my precious soul viallllssss)

[mild basin]

i hope soul vials aren't nerfed to oblivion

[boreal grail]

bro has been in the three day time loop for a while now, hell yeah man ty for your service

[leaden kiln]

Theres the timer

Wheres the rimer

TIMER

[arctic mirage]

https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/7370431/mce2-release-date

[mild basin]

this implies the pack comes out tomorrow, not friday 😭

[gray vigil]

i think it needs another 12 hour added to the timer...

[gleaming torrent]

^

[gray vigil]

release shows 12pm on the 20th for me PST

[gleaming torrent]

Yeah 3pm EST for me

[gleaming torrent]

this is for release day

same same but different.

[gray vigil]

lol in 24 its not realse day though...

[lapis jungle]

I cant contain myself

[gleaming torrent]

Timezones

[gray vigil]

Timezones are hard

[lapis jungle]

I need it so bad

[gleaming torrent]

im so excited

[gray vigil]

❤️

[gleaming torrent]

real

[gray vigil]

god i play eve online the amount of Timezone shenanigans is nuts

[gleaming torrent]

any time you gotta organize any sort of group up with multiple timezones it's painful for no reason 😭

[torn plinth]

Is it gonna release like

Minute of the 20th

Or should I sleep that night lmao

[mild basin]

why are timezones so stupid 😭

[gray vigil]

id sleep.

[gleaming torrent]

<t:1750446000> , <t:1750446000:R>

I like using thease now days ^

they adapt to local time, very easy to use

[mild basin]

yea

[torn plinth]

[mild basin]

24hr for us in US east, that's basically tomorrow but the timer seems wrong 😭

[torn plinth]

Mayhaps I set alarms to wake up every 2-3 hours

[gray vigil]

whatever time garlic bread linked should be about the release

[mild basin]

whoever started the majora's mask day countdown is early

[gleaming torrent]

Whatever time it says right here "<t:1750446000>" is in your timezone, and that's the exact hour it launches.

[mild basin]

no it's not

adam doesn't control when the pack is officially posted on curseforge

[bold forge]

how many people in here are having an american moment

[gleaming torrent]

it should be out insantly, he said this a buncha times already but yeah it could deff be late

[mild basin]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-reaction-me-too-yes-acknowledge-me-gif-27117775

[bold forge]

i am very certain this is false

for multiple reasons

[mild basin]

yea, like i said, adam doesn't control the exact time

[gleaming torrent]

Mmm oki

[torn plinth]

But it should be around that time posted?

[mild basin]

curseforge does it whenever they feel like it

[gleaming torrent]

Mhm

[mild basin]

give or take

[bold forge]

ideally yes, but the exact hour or minute is gonna be a bit after that

[torn plinth]

Sick, so sleep should be fine, that's 2 pm for me

[mild basin]

sleeping at 2pm is crazy

[gleaming torrent]

Ah

[bold forge]

from shortly to much later, we'd all hope it's not the latter, but not much we can do about it

[torn plinth]

I work nights

I asked off for Friday, Monday, and Tuesday so I've got the whole weekend and some extra days

B)

[gray vigil]

my server pc is ready... 5600g with 80gbs of ram lol

[gleaming torrent]

Hahaha

[torn plinth]

I wish I had the money to set up a server PC, we're just renting a server

[gray vigil]

ive got a group of freinds that are all wanting to play

[torn plinth]

Same we've got like 10-15

I'm so excited

[gray vigil]

the 5600g was cheep to build i think im $600CAD into it

[boreal grail]

when the timer runs out, we go into MCE2 Standby Mode

[torn plinth]

[mild basin]

https://tenor.com/view/im-waiting-daffy-duck-impatient-gif-16985061

[boreal grail]

im just glad i dont have to camp outside a best buy in the winter for this

[heady inlet]

camp infront of your computer in the summer

[boreal grail]

thats my usual routine!

[mild basin]

i've seen more hype for a minecraft modpack than the switch 2, actually sad 😂

[boreal grail]

yeah the kinda money theyre asking for on that thing is Insane

i love wasting money but thats a little much 😭

[mild basin]

who wants to buy breath of the wild 3 separate times but this isn't time nor place for that discussion

[boreal grail]

fr, we got free peak right here

or yk. we will shortly

[mild basin]

don't gotta spend 80 bucks for a copy paste experience

MCE2 gonna be the best 1.20.1 modpack to ever exist

put everything else to shame

[boreal grail]

i just wanna dive into the eternal fun, or whatever that ad someone dreamed up said

[chilly lily]

Doubt. You are not an MCE2 dev.

[gleaming torrent]

Some people cannot be saved.

[modern sonnet]

How would I go about pre-generating land on a server, is there some sort of one click button? I plan to use Bisect Hosting, and this would be my first time pre-generating for a modpack.

[digital yacht]

There is a mod you use: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/chunkpregenerator
Has documentation and all that jazz

[modern sonnet]

Thank you.

[digital yacht]

It does take a while to run, fyi. I usually do like 3000 to 4000 block radius (so 6000-8000 blocks total) and it can take a couple days depending on hardware. You could always start smaller like 2000 block radius or smaller and then bump it up as needed

[modern sonnet]

It does look like procederally generating them seems better, instead of one massive pregen. I'll probably be able to do that when most of my friends are sleeping.

They're already impatient for the release, I don't want to reveal another 2 day wait for pregenerating suddenly, lol.

[modern sonnet]

Do you know if this is a mod everyone needs installed to join the server?

Sorry if it seems a rather dumb question, I realistically know very little about Minecraft modding.

[digital yacht]

server side only!

[modern sonnet]

Sounds good. Thanks again.

[digital yacht]

you can setup a big one and it will auto pause when people are online

but I am not sure how it does it so you might pregen one side more than the other or something

[modern sonnet]

Actually, I can probably try it out on a different modpack to see real quick. Thanks for the suggestion.

[digital yacht]

I would read the documentation a bit too, you can give it more cores in the config and more ram in the server start file to make it more stable and performant

When it pregens and there are tons of structures and dungeons, it will fill up the RAM stupid fast. One of the rare times it is recommended to go up to a lot more RAM for a java server

[flint bolt]

how much space does it end up taking for the pc?

[digital yacht]

uhhh depends on the amount of structures really. MCE2 is bound to have a ton of them so a 3000-4000 block radius would be north of 100GB

eh maybe more like 50-70GB

it's hard to estimate

[abstract imp]

Why is this picture So low quality

I just grabbed the first result of the internet that looked normal

[vale vault]

wait as a newbie to pregenning (outside of that one mod that lets u do it ingame before you create a world), i didnt know you could pregen chunks after you started the world? is it like a command or when you mean procedural do you mean like, normal walking into unmade parts of the world?

once it releases im fully intent on making a forever mc world and want to pregen as much as possible so like, whats the benifits of doing so long term?

[digital yacht]

The benefits of pre gen is that if players go to explore a section of the world, the server already made the chunks and everything in them so it doesn't lag. Chunk generation is the most taxing part of running a server.
If you keep the server side mod on the server, you can just queue up another chunk pregen that extends out from a previous pregen so you don't end up re generating chunks you did once before.

A downside is if there are updates that add new structures, biomes, etc, they won't show up in areas that have already been generated so you'll have to go really far to find them

When that user said procedurely generated, I think they meant batch generating. Doing sets of say 1000 blocks at a time for example instead of 8000 blocks

[vale vault]

ohhhhhhh, so is there any reason for pregen on a singleplayer world or is just main benefit for servers?

[sonic sail]

i feel kingpin with the pen right now

[vague abyss]

this wait got me going insane

i installed overwatch and am going on a walk

[summer igloo]

I am itching waiting not long to go

[twilit bane]

10ish hours to go lads!

[mild basin]

i'm pretty sure it's not today

[pale kayak]

iirc Adam mentioned that the timer was arbitrary and that he was aiming for a Friday release time; only he knows when "Friday" is for him as far as timezones go, but yeah, I'm not banking on it being released today either.

[mild basin]

yea, i'm aware of timezones but even i'm confused because adam set the timer too early compared to when he said the pack would actually be released 😭

[pale kayak]

Maybe Adam secretly lives in Dublin, which is where the timezone is set to!

[silent imp]

why are you guys still in this channel ? mce2 is not really gonna happen

its all been a ruse

anyway i claim the final chicken on this day

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-cluck-caw-heihei-gif-12652868522842709939

[digital yacht]

Not really. Unless you're playing on a mega potato PC that can't generate chunks well while you're playing. You'll see little benefit in single-player

[mild basin]

main benefit for a server really, players going in all directions, rtping, loading a hundred chunks at once without pregen takes a really bad toll on TPS

[pale kayak]

That's the big one. Pregen makes it really easy to not have the server lag badly during the first few hours when people are spreading out and searching for somewhere to build

[digital yacht]

Or you can have players like mine who just walk in a straight line forever for some reason. Literally had 3 people never settle down or advance their quest book. Just walked about 20k blocks in separate directions, got bored, logged off

Was wild to watch

[pale kayak]

that's wild work

[sharp crystal]

#1143742498808799232 message
👀?

[south ridge]

Ya know, technically it's Friday somewhere. 😄

[pale kayak]

Goat doesn't watch this channel but has stated before that Adam's mention that he "might" do it is likely a polite way of saying he'll consider it but most likely will forget about that. 😉

[mild basin]

he forgets about a lot of things, let's hope he remembers MCE2 exists

[compact spruce]

Adamnesia

[mild basin]

a special instance of amnesia located only in adams

[arctic mirage]

will MCE2 be available on modrinth, or only on curseforge?

[mild basin]

only curseforge, modrinth is weird

[digital yacht]

Curse and any mod launcher that uses curse as a backend

[arctic mirage]

yeah i use prism, so it wouldn't really make a difference, but it's nice to know

[mild basin]

modrinth isn't primarily mod a loader though...prism however is. but modrinth is completely different

[deep rain]

I'm surprised mce2 chat is still a thread instead of an official channel. Maybe we get one when it drops too.

[mild basin]

mce-general will probably include mce2

[deep rain]

I didn't think of that

[boreal grail]

im guessing itll get its own channel, just to avoid confusion from people asking abt stuff thats in both packs

[mild basin]

i remember someone else asking this and was told mce2 discussed would probably be kept in the general mce channel

[boreal grail]

by a dev/mod?

[mild basin]

goat iirc

i could be wrong but i'm like 90% sure

[boreal grail]

also late to this, but yeah im pretty sure adam is irish based on the accent i heard during the discord presentation a while back

[pale kayak]

That makes sense! I didn't want to assume. 🥳

[boreal grail]

maybe not irish exactly, but definitely not american

[mild basin]

where did you get uk from

ah

[open oxide]

Ireland is a country in its own right. Not part of the UK

[strong summit]

Very true. Same timezone though.

[mild basin]

i had to look this shit up just to verify and yea, dublin isn't part of the UK..

[compact spruce]

casually pisses off the entire country of Ireland

[boreal grail]

thats on me, turns out only northern ireland is

ok correction: idrk how timezones are split up in that general area

[sharp crystal]

Like 5-8 hours ahead depending where you are in the US 🤷‍♂️

[digital yacht]

man, who knew we would get a history and geography lesson with the release of mce2, y'all really doing some crazy work around here

[boreal grail]

genuinely no idea how i didnt know ireland was its own thing

[topaz geyser]

Everyone has their blind spots

[boreal grail]

but yeah lmao shows how much i know abt uk timezones if im adding whole new countries to the mix

either way, just a little more waiting left to go!!

[mild basin]

a day and some hours, give or take

[boreal grail]

now i gotta find something else to excitedly wait for... i think im picking the europa clipper arriving at jupiter in 2030

to see if it has life or could possibly support it

[tranquil prawn]

In regards to the new structures, was this an issue in MCE1? Was there any major updates that initial chunks missed out on?

[digital yacht]

No idea. It depends on if your server lasts multiple patches and if those patches include more content or not.

Since mce2 is already confirmed to get more mods overtime, it's more likely to miss out on stuff unless you do a Regen run

[pale kayak]

I know it was just said in #🏮-mce-general that Ice and Fire dragons won't spawn within 800 blocks of world spawn, but I was curious to see if there are any other restrictions being placed on their spawns? Historically my friends have not enjoyed Ice and Fire so I'm hoping to assuage some of their fears that Ice and Fire will punish exploration rather than reward it.

That said, I'm aware the pack comes out tomorrow and will gladly accept "wait and see" as an answer!

[flint egret]

its all subject to change based on feedback

[forest sail]

its almost time !!

[flint egret]

the first month is the most important time to get that feedback in because i will be tinkering away a lot

often and frequently

[pale kayak]

Sounds good! Thank you Adam

[digital yacht]

Will there be a dedicated feedback place? Cause I intend to play a metric load of MC this weekend and could jot down ideas/feedback

[flint egret]

the github repo

will have a feedback/suggestion tag

[forest sail]

ty ty ty Adam and dev team - much love for a work of love