#MCE2 Sneak Peek Discussion

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compact spruce
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just found a sequence break lol

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

pliant igloo
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Daily chicken

nimble sorrel
pastel atlas
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Almost forgor

still lagoonBOT
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You seem to have misspelled forgot. It is spelled forgot, not forgor

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

pliant igloo
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Daily chicken

untold bough
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im starting to think i will graduate before mce2 releases

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damn

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time goes fast

vale vault
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๐Ÿ”

teal pebble
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chicken...

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

pliant igloo
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Twice in one day, shame on you. ratgun

true coral
nimble sorrel
fallow plinth
vale vault
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wonder how vivecraft would run with mce2 actually o.O

sonic sail
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you turn on a generator and you face melts off

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

pliant igloo
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Daily chicken

silent imp
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What in the world is that sneak peak ?? Did adam change the channel name because he is not posting just mce2 stuff there anymore or will there be pokemon in mce2 ?

prisma light
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We got baited, mce2 was a mirage

flint egret
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there will still be mce2 posts, i have not worked on mce2 in a little bit but after i get my pc fixed i will continue development and teasers

pastel atlas
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WE WANT MCE 2 SNEAK PEEK

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Or no daily check in

river heron
silent imp
tawdry rapids
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we got cobblemon eternal before mce2

flint egret
tawdry rapids
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that sounds awesome

elfin moat
sonic sail
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nice

viscid fable
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when is mce 3 coming out?

pastel atlas
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daily check in

pliant igloo
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Daily chicken

digital yacht
digital yacht
teal pebble
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chicken

vale vault
# flint egret that's the aim! we want to make it kitchen sink experience with extras like ques...

no idea if pixelmon... or cobblemon allows this or if it would be too diffcult but having the ability to capture different mobs (modded and vinilla) would be epiiic imo... tbf i used to do that back when morbs and soul vails worked in mce1 and just had other mobs fight the difficult mobs on mass. (i will always remeber having the 4 star wither fighting a bunch of other bosses i captured above the nether ceiling), but doing it within the pokemon context would be uniqueeeeeeee

bold forge
vale vault
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oooooooooooo yippeeee, thank you for the info, i havent followed anything pixelmon since like. probably playing it back in 1.7.10 or 1.8 if i remeber right looool

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but yea until its like already an option in the mod itself yea better to wait for their mod to hit that poiiint

potent solar
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It would be quite funny if you could jump cobblemon with a sword, I remember a really old pokemon mod that allowed for that and I always thought it was funny

fallow plinth
sonic sail
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its all fun in games till you come across a fear rat

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

nimble sorrel
abstract imp
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Why are there so many chickens

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

pliant igloo
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Daily chicken

nimble sorrel
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๐Ÿ”

desert lintel
tawdry rapids
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surely the announcement for the beta will come in november 2024 and not any later!

prisma light
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Mce2 beta 2027 trust

glass kernel
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never coming out daily check in

elfin moat
glass kernel
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mce 1 or most skyblocks

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

pliant igloo
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Daily chicken

sonic sail
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if only there was a way to gif

pliant igloo
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Be a higher rank.

shrewd pivot
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to gif or not to gif that's the question

cobalt monolith
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I must say if mce2 includes cobblemon I'm not playing

compact spruce
fallow plinth
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I mean Adam already stated that it's going to be a separate project some messages above

uncut chasm
flint egret
tawdry rapids
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mce2 will provide basic education to society

elfin moat
tawdry rapids
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do not include me in we

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i will live

elfin moat
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no u wont

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in 3021 u wont

flint egret
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multigenerational project

uncut chasm
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Adams children (or clone) will continue his work when he's finally given up due to burnout or just tired of people in general. But adam if you decide to go the clone rout, please be sure to make a clone of a younger version of yourself. One who's still naive and thinks the best of people. That'll ensure he works on the project for at least a couple of months of his own free will.

sand lake
elfin moat
flint egret
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possibly

elfin moat
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like by next week !

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if u let me play it i will give u a cookie

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and its a good cookie

flint egret
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sorry i was just being polite

elfin moat
sonic sail
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will there be full dive support for mce2?

uncut chasm
tawdry rapids
worthy cargo
sonic sail
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wow

vale vault
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omg the deathloops are gonna be amazing, be roasted alive by a fire dragon 20x in a row in vr would be so immersiveeeeee scream

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

pliant igloo
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Daily chicken

heady inlet
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Daily frog fact: frogs absorb water through their skin instead of drinking it. They have a special patch of skin on their belly and thighs, called the "drinking patch," that allows them to take in water directly from their environment.

sand lake
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thank you, green one ๐Ÿ™

boreal grail
true coral
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Bi weekly lurk in

I am full of mirth at recent developments 10/10

pastel atlas
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Daily Check in

dawn swan
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what version is MCE2 going to be and will there be tinkers...

pliant igloo
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1.16.5, and I think so. IIRC some of the preview shots had Tinker's stuff in them.

cobalt monolith
vast ibex
elfin moat
vast ibex
heady inlet
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woah, how do you write so smol

vast ibex
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-# helo!!!!ratlaugh

heady inlet
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-# crazy

vast ibex
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no gatekeeping knowledge ๐Ÿ™

compact spruce
wide jacinth
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I do believe

pastel atlas
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-# daily check in

naive peak
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I like toast but prefer it not be fluffy

teal pebble
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I like my toast drippy

distant smelt
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how does one have drippy toast...

fiery jackal
pliant igloo
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Could also be French toast with generous amounts of syrup.

distant smelt
fiery jackal
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What is toast if not fire with a side of bread?

distant smelt
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true, but I prefer my fire with a side of marshmallow

heady inlet
sonic sail
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I like toast sandwich where i stick toast between tow slices of bread

digital yacht
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British detected

sonic sail
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wrong im from florida

fluid dock
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hey there, are there any news regarding a potential release quarter?

deft sluice
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Birthday check in

fluid dock
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okappy, thank you

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

glass kernel
bitter willow
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actually crazy its been almost 5 years

digital yacht
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release quarter? Is this a corporation lmao

tiny raft
fiery jackal
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It will be done when it I'd ready

flint egret
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because i have not been working on mce2 for 5 years. not even close to that.

bitter willow
# flint egret since what? mce1 coming out?

Oh....I had looked back at the announcements channel and saw a post by you on 9/4/2020 regarding "suggestions on how to name the new mc eternal modpack on 1.16 that is actively being worked on"....and assumed if it was actively being worked on then.....it was likely being worked on for a handful of months prior to that.....which would have put it between 4 1/2 to 5 years ago....correct?

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#๐Ÿ“Œ-announcements message

flint egret
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On and off.

vale vault
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That is like, actually crazy to think about how long ive been playing mce1 on and off then o.O

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daily bunny

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OMG i keeeep FORGETTING about the gify gif perms eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

fiery jackal
livid dirge
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Just checked, I'm only lvl 6. Feelsbadman

bitter willow
vale vault
fiery jackal
wide jacinth
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How do you check level

static anvil
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when is cobblemon coming out

inland ore
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mce2 delayed so long feels like the highest wastedpotential pack ever tbh, not because of the delay thats fine, its what the delays brings with itself
people will have super high expectation on release because ur taking 4+ years to make a modpack, "it better be perfect" kinda feeling
and also, 1.16 feels so old rn, other packs are more snappy, faster to load and with all the newstuff and mods that are 1.18+ exclusive it will feel anachronistic

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idk, i feel a bit sad tho ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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all this, not just to say i wanted it earlier (hehe, so many people want many things, id want a ferrari too ๐Ÿ˜ ) ... I'm a supporter cus i belived in the project and still do

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I'm just sayin that each day passing inherently makes a good project lose bits of value.

teal pebble
steel glacier
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it aint that deep, everyone can state their own opinions

inland ore
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yeah, i'd like honest feedback on my work from people that dont care, supporters and haters

steel glacier
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should be without judgement as well

inland ore
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i'd like any type of feedback i can get, it's on me to filter it and find what i find constructive and useful and what not

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Can be 100%, can be 0% who knows

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it's just how i feel about it.

teal pebble
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nah bro thats bs. im not white knigthing for the devs or anything but that shit would def demoralize me if I was a dev. "wasted potential" and " each day passing inherently makes a good project lose bits of value"

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thats not even true

inland ore
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then it shouldnt demoralize them if it's just an invention of a crazy latenight brain

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to me it's fair to say that taking this long is making the pack lose value day by day, it's gonna feel old and every imperfection will weigh so much more on people's impression of it

teal pebble
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if that was true why do people make/play packs on old versions (meatball craft on 1.12.2, GTNH 1.7.10, Divine Journey 2 1.12.2, etc...)

inland ore
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or are you saying that people love those packs for the fact that they are either:

  • missing features
  • loading slower
  • missing newer packs
    etc??
teal pebble
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yeah but there are also mods on 1.16.5 that you can't get on new versions

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so its just a tradeoff

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and it will be even better because it will be a bunch of 1.16 mods that you havent played in a while

inland ore
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in my experience things being good because of memories are only good for a little while

teal pebble
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nah E2Expert and sevtech IE:Evolved expert

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i replayed all of them after modern versions they still valid

inland ore
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thats not what i said btw

teal pebble
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well they arent just good because of memories

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they stand on their own

steel glacier
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I wanna chime in and say with confidence i haven't played a single modpack that's made me enjoy anything since MCE, every other modpack just feels like a carbon copy of MCE

inland ore
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i agree

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I'm just saying mce2 its losing so much value by being delayed for so long for the above reasons, not saying it wont be good or it wont be playable

teal pebble
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I really dont think its that big of a deal

inland ore
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im just sayin if same pack came out 2 years ago it would be better

teal pebble
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i mean yeah obv

inland ore
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oke thats it

steel glacier
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I can also say I am sad that there's a new pack being made when MCE2 should just be completed, or just realease it as is and let people do the beta stuff

still lagoonBOT
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There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.

teal pebble
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but it is what it is, and sending a doomer message like that is only gonna make stuff worse

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theres nothing they can gain from that feedback

steel glacier
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I wouldn't say that

teal pebble
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like what

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make a time machine

steel glacier
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It's not a doomer message, I kinda agree with their message personally

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There's been so much hype going on, even one of my fav streamers played MCE so i wanna play it soon. I respect the time it takes to make it along with the stress from people. But there has to be people helping and stuff to the point where a beta could potentially be released or something

inland ore
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stop striving for "perfection"

teal pebble
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sounds pretty entitled

steel glacier
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Me and a friend of mine actually talked about this earlier, people would probably prefer a beta with occasional patches compared to waiting a long time then watching another pack be made, BUT i support absolutely anything made by Adam and will continue to support anything made

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kinda excited for a Pixelmonesk MCE lol

frail acorn
steel glacier
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sorry for filling the chat with random rants Adam

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uno reverse

inland ore
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Four years is the time between Minecraft's release and 2015, bro. In that period, the game transformed massively. It went from being riddled with bugsโ€”like frequent crashes and world corruption issuesโ€”to new biomes like the Mesa and Savanna, mobs like horses and guardians, the entire enchanting and brewing systems, and even new dimensions like The End with the Ender Dragon fight.

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from the game not even existing to basically what we know as minecraft

teal pebble
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Bro ur not fr, minecraft is the best selling game

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this is a fan made modpack made in freetime for free

steel glacier
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to be fair the new actual MC updates have been complete garbage lol

inland ore
steel glacier
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Respectfully can yall stop arguing about this lol

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it ain't that deep

inland ore
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idk why he is angry ahahah

steel glacier
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Smano you said your piece and nmcb1 disagrees

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that should be the end of it

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take the debate to the DMs

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no need to be so rude

frail acorn
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bro ur being rude

teal pebble
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ok im done

inland ore
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thats the kind of people that support these ideas and that think the modpack being late is not affecting its value

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self depicting tbh

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no need to add much more

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reality comes out by itself

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goodnight fellas ๐Ÿ™‚

steel glacier
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it's never that deep, Smano I suggest just trying some new modpacks. Just till things get more active, things like these conversations are the reason it could be delayed. just a lot of grief, but your opinion is valid nonetheless ๐Ÿ™‚

inland ore
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yeah

steel glacier
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I hope yall have a good night and can look past this

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we all support this community together

sonic sail
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well it seems the silence is over..... for now....

midnight rose
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YA HOO

pastel atlas
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.

deft sluice
deft sluice
pliant igloo
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They think they're clever for trying to do it this way.

pastel atlas
sinful laurel
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Just know you're on thin ice.
Trying to get away with stuff, walking the line so to say is not a smart way of going on about staying on the good side of staff.

Not just on my good side.

clever meteor
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is it out yet

dreamy plover
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lol

pastel atlas
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I'm not getting away with anything, i'm just check in

sinful laurel
pastel atlas
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Dammit

sinful laurel
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Whilst do I don't visit all the channels all the time, the staff notifies the rest of staff in the staff channel, and there's people on my hypothetical payroll

pliant spoke
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I sent a message in the MCE2 sneak peek discussion channel on 11/27/24

livid dirge
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I vote all people who ask about it being out or when get an instaban

pastel atlas
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Daily vote in

wanton wolf
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daily look-in

true coral
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Bi weekly lurk in

naive peak
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You guys really wanna get in trouble don't you

true coral
inland ore
true coral
inland ore
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"causally hang in here" my boy I played mce1 for 15 months, when MCE2 was announced I sent him money to support the project

still lagoonBOT
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There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.

inland ore
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My boy you are not well

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Also, that thread is days old and was peacefully ended in a disagreement

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But everybody is entitled to his own opinion

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Isn't he?

true coral
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This consistently has been happening in here for half a year

inland ore
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Bro

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U can relax now

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Uve been a good boy, mods know it

true coral
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You aren't the first to say this stuff tough guy

inland ore
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Here take a treat

true coral
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L m a o

inland ore
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If they wanna ban me, they'll do I don't think "thekillingjay" re opening a weeks old thread will influence their opinion

true coral
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Be good to people man.

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You are taking this to an extreme

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Also immature and childishly

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Go off though king

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Show us what you are made of

inland ore
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I literally gave it up a week ago? The other guy called me "an idiot" for my opinion I didn't even answer back

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I'm just saying, you re opening the topic saying " you are disappointed in people" is useless

true coral
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You didn't have to say anything

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Or pop off

inland ore
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Stop brown nosing, keep going with ur life. You'll be fine

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Peace

inland ore
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Behave!

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Or maybe one day somebody will ask a ban for people "bi weekly lurking in" , that's how censorship works... one day you are asking for other people to get banned, the next day you are the one getting the boot

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I personally feel you should be able to lurk in every 2 weeks, and I feel I should be able to say the project is losing value, others should say they love it and they pref to wait

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Peace and love boys and girls

ornate swallow
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yall really don't have to have a meltdown over this ๐Ÿ’€

true coral
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I don't think I was. 1000% understanding of why Adam never launched that Patreon and is prioritizing life over this. Too much of this happens unchecked. I could never have the patience to keep channels like this open for this kind of dialogue to keep cycling

ornate swallow
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you don't have to try and minimod people who are being annoying or call them out though, that kind of thing should be left to staff to handle

true coral
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The value in the "project" comes in the joy had when it's released, today, tomorrow, or 5 years from now. It's not crowd funded. It's not equity funded. It's not Patreon funded. It's not stakeholder funded. It's just a guy spending his free time to make something cool

ornate swallow
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otherwise you just look like an aggressor which isn't great for anyone

true coral
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Yea usually I don't reply, this time I did and forgot about it, that's on me

pastel atlas
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if we just check in instead of arguing

true coral
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I usually just post sad or happy based on stuff

true coral
pastel atlas
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This channel was peaceful when check in was a thing

sonic sail
fallow plinth
sinful laurel
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From this message and onwards I don't want any more toxicity, blaming, or anything like that.
This forum was made to discuss the sneak peeks, not to "check in"

I understand that people are getting annoyed that it's not out, but it is just a pet project that Adam and Co. are making, it's not a AAA release from a well funded and well known game development company.

We are not asking people to stop checking in, in a link to censorship, we're doing it, because it feels spammy, when it's the same person who does it.

I have lately been in this channel more than I like, and I'm starting to question whether it should've been unlocked again in the first place

inland ore
inland ore
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As I said some hours ago, peace and love. I don't mean to be toxic, last time a guy even flat out called me an idiot and I didn't respond. Luv ya

unreal belfry
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๐Ÿฆ€

fiery jackal
compact spruce
boreal grail
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it doesnt rlly matter to me just wondering if all server staff are on the same page here

fallow plinth
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The way I understood it, the check-ins were for this thread only, not for other forums. So when this thread closed there was probably some confusion going on and for Condizion, he didn't know he wasn't supposed to check-in into threads other than this one. But that's in the past now so happy daily check-in, everyone!! ๐ŸŽŠ

next flame
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mmmmmmm cheese

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i love me some cheese

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can't wait to eat some cheese while i play mce2 :)

true coral
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Check ins have always been a fun memey way of just idk, posting in a place where you bounce every now and then for funsies. There's 0 pressure and just like a "hey what's up" every time

Adam seemed ok with it the other times this year where other times crap hit the fan. The issues have always come when someone comes in and posts genuinely asking when MCE2 Is coming out, why hasn't it already, where's my update, why didn't the beta come, etc

That's where it's just asinine, rude, and expectently demanding as if they're owed something

I "bi weekly lurk in" which means I catch up every couple weeks and post my little thuing.

If there's bs going on and shade being throw at Adam I've posted disappointment and discontent with that.

The only thing I did different this time is I forgot not to @ the guy I replied to so he got a ping and the resulting pop off ensued

I was really happy this chat stayed the last time something big happened but after months of seeing the same devolvement by different people every other month I also don't think it should be open anymore

I'm sure seeing any discontent period is very disheartening and doesn't help reignite Adam's passion or desire to work on things

If this were my show I'd be muting people who said stuff like that as if they're owed anything, cause they're not and it's just plain hurtful at times

still lagoonBOT
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There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.

true coral
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I broke the no pinging rule 100% and for that I'm sorry, he wouldn't have even noticed I bet. Ready and accepting for a mute for that

flint egret
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your all good

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i dont mind check-ins as long as they stay here

unreal belfry
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๐Ÿฆ€

flint egret
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crab ๐Ÿฆ€

hasty crater
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I was shocked to see this channel locked a few days ago, glad to see it's still alive. Means that people do care what happens with future projects even if people argue and bicker.

Much love to all. Thanks for all the sneak peaks Adam. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

vast ibex
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i don't have time to read all of the discord drama "friendly discussion", but i am glad that this is back

midnight rose
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Im thankful for mce2

upper merlin
pastel atlas
fallow plinth
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ya sure, if there's one thread to do it, it'd be this one

sinful laurel
# pastel atlas ca... can.. can i check in? ๐Ÿฅบ

You can mentally check in every day. But it wouldn't be advised to check in with a message every day.
But we can find an agreement.

It would be possible to convince me to allow a weekly check in, on the day of your choosing, if you let it stay at that day.

trail heron
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sorry if i step on anyones toes, but there was a poll about beta version a while back, is it only for content creators?

pastel atlas
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no beta

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just sneak peeks for a while

deft sluice
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Check ins allowed?

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๐Ÿฅณ

fiery jackal
deft sluice
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Not spammy ones got it XD

boreal grail
boreal grail
arctic mirage
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okay i haven't checked in here for quite a while, were there any speak peaks here posted that weren't shown in #๐ŸŽจmce2-dev-sneak-peek?

pliant spoke
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I have posted a message in the MCE2 Sneak Peek Discussion Thread on Discord on 11/29/24 at 3:08 PM EST

pastel atlas
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๐Ÿฅบ

boreal grail
arctic mirage
pliant spoke
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I have posted a message in the MCE2 Sneak Peek Discussion Thread on Discord on 11/30/24 at 8:25 AM EST

twin mason
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So we can't say "Daily check in" ?

tawdry rapids
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there really is nothing else to do in this channel

boreal grail
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gotta be ctrl+F since the in: search thingy doesnt display forum threads as options

tawdry rapids
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i think it was the pokemon one

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2 weeks ago

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but that is not mce2

boreal grail
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ye, i think thats the one he saw last

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

heady inlet
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Feels like I missed out on a canon event...

iron quest
pastel atlas
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No sadness

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Just daily check in

pastel atlas
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That was actually funny

midnight rose
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๐Ÿ˜

pastel atlas
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Daily Sea Temperature check in

inland ore
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bi yearly log on

mossy totem
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Been almost 4 years ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ™

fiery jackal
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do not start that argument again

pastel atlas
mossy totem
boreal grail
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yeah sometimes people will come in here and complain the packs not out yet, so its a sore subject

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the thread even got locked for a couple days pretty recently bc the resulting argument got especially heated

mossy totem
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Oh jeez my b, didn't realize it was getting to that point, I'm honestly glad in part it's taken this long cause it means (hopefully) there will finally be another peak modpack like MCE1 was, I do hope it comes soon but I def understand why it's taken so long so my bad on that lol ๐Ÿคฃ

boreal grail
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honest mistake, happens to the best of us

fiery jackal
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It's fine. I'm just trying to keep the peace at this point

sand lake
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someone removed my "these nuts" jokes๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

dreamy plover
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shocker

flint egret
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It's generous calling them jokes

fiery jackal
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I thought about removing them myself too

sand lake
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What's wrong with them? A joke is still a joke

fiery jackal
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Jokes are meant to be funny. Not cringy

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It technically didn't break any rules which is why I didn't remove it. But it was painfully unfunny

sand lake
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Fair enough. I personally find "these nuts" jokes kinda funny even if they are incredibly cringy.

heady inlet
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at some point this channel got way too out of hand and following that, way too serious...I feel like this channel needs a hard reset and be about sneak peek discussions again

fiery jackal
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I agree

pastel atlas
sand lake
autumn siren
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Prickly prickly

tawdry rapids
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cringe is love

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

true coral
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actually lol'd at the nuts joke commentary

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thanks crew

pliant spoke
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in check daily

deft sluice
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Ohh mannn I missed the nuts comments sadge

silver oriole
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Do you think butter is a appropriate tool or is it a weapon?

pastel atlas
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daily check in

vale vault
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just one is blunt damage another is damage over time

compact spruce
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butter can't really be used as a tool but it can be used as a bioweapon

sand lake
pastel atlas
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Daily check in

boreal grail
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if theres one thing that icarly taught me, its that putting a ton of room temp butter in a longish sock creates a rudimentary ball and chain, and also to keep an eye out for unfortunate elements of beloved childhood tv shows

hasty crater
static anvil
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how is cobblemon gonna be different than pixelmon

bold forge
# static anvil how is cobblemon gonna be different than pixelmon

the most important part is that it's more minecrafty, both in how it's integrated with the game, and of course the models.
it also uses Pokemon Showdown to run battles, which means battles done in the mod are highly accurate to how they would play out in the actual pokemon games.
more finer details, but that's the most notable things

compact spruce
bold forge
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it communicates with a showdown server run inside the game

compact spruce
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...interesting

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i wonder how they manage that

bold forge
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the battles happening ingame are basically just a projection of what showdown resolves

distant smelt
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also cobblemon, at least from what I've seen, is easier to make add-ons for ranging from compatibility with other mods to implementing fakemon

bold forge
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i'm even trying (and kind of failing thanks to dumb annoying stuff) to make my own addon for it that i think could end up being widely used :)

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no more details until it gets farther along

distant smelt
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I wanna make one that allows pokemon to work the create assembly lines

vale vault
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palworld intensifies

distant smelt
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look, if nintedo wants to kill it, it's up to use to keep it safe & revive it

steel furnace
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highly doubt nintendo will be able to actually do anything against palworld

fiery jackal
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You would be surprised. Nintendo will sue anyone that infringes on their brand

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And they got a patient for the throwing a ball and catching monsters mechanic and are going to use that to go after palworld

compact spruce
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^ palworld has already been forced to remove the ability to throw pal spheres to summon captured pals

steel furnace
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I havent played the game in probably 8 months but isnt that one of the core mechanics of palworld?

fiery jackal
steel furnace
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I didnt hear anything about it either

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you still use the pal spheres to summon captured pals, they just removed the ability to choose where your pal gets summoned. pals can only be summoned next to you now.

it is most likely to get around a patent, I would like to think its a temporary workaround while they implement something better

sonic sail
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"okay we turn it into a brick"

wary zodiac
fiery jackal
distant smelt
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not only that, but pocketpairs previous game , craftopia, released in like 2020 and had similar mechanics

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but, this is in the japanese courts, so unless we have any japanese legal scholars in here, who knows what will happen

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either way its mind boggling that game play mechanics can be patented. I can slightly see legal protections for the exact code to make their version work, but not the whole ass mechanic

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

hybrid path
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If you could patent one gaming mechanic, what one do you think would do the most damage? Who was the first one to make a major building block of modern gaming?

compact spruce
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My first thought was an HP system but tabletop games did that first

distant smelt
digital yacht
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Mario: Jumping

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jk I know that wasn't the earliest instance but it is the funniest to think about

compact spruce
flint egret
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Movement by pressing keys

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Point and click games make a surprise resurgence

pliant igloo
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A screen that displays the name of the game when it first loads, where you have to press a button to continue.

compact spruce
dense niche
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You guys think we'll be getting a new sneak peek soon? Looks like about a month gap between posts and today marks 1 month since the last

hasty crater
distant smelt
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Transferring the required data to play the game over the internet

vale vault
vale vault
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omg adam actually copied me in the past thats crazy, (like movement key comment i didnt read ._. )

boreal grail
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theres a couple of examples of games not by namco that had them anyways, but ig namco didnt care either by then bc they didnt bother enforcing the patent ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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imagine going thru all that trouble just to make things less fun for everyone else and just. stopping there

compact spruce
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i mean, patenting things just so competitors can't use them is a real strategy that companies use

boreal grail
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yeah but loading screen minigames arent exactly a killer feature

distant smelt
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but patent law is the one section of law that I honestly thing should be kept to 5 years MAX, and that is being insanely generous

boreal grail
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if that new engine port of sonic 06 didnt completely obliterate the loading times that would have been a perfect opportunity

boreal grail
distant smelt
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which is still too long...

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I could see DotA +20 being a reasonable cap

boreal grail
pastel atlas
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daily check in

hybrid path
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Just imagine if the nemesis system was able to be used by other games, a souls game with that would be awesome

pastel atlas
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daily check in

vale vault
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Also I'm so sorry if I @ed you on accident I was mid typing it on my phone and fat fingered the send >.<

vale vault
boreal grail
pastel atlas
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Daily future in

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

pliant spoke
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not daily support in

ancient cave
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This place got pretty deserted huh

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2+ish month check in I guess

pastel atlas
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daily check in

proud iris
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I gets to a point

livid dirge
flint egret
pliant igloo
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I'll never say no to watching a pillager band get their collective asses kicked.

compact spruce
teal pebble
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in a good way

compact spruce
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The wither has a laser beam attack and a dash now.
The witch appeared to get knocked down by the dash, but then got back up.
Blocks hit by explosions turned into red outlines, then reappeared once the wither lost aggro

distant smelt
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there is a strange fire on the rock in the distance

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and the house has some create stuff inside (& outside as deco)

compact spruce
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Also that house is almost certainly a custom structure since it has the mce hat on it

pliant igloo
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Would be neat if that house was guaranteed to generate at spawn.

hasty crater
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The blocks reappearing is so cool

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Never liked places being mob griefed, but always felt like it was cheaty to turn it off. If there's a way to have those red blocks stay until the user "repairs" the area in an AoE that be very nice. Costing some sort of material or something

pliant spoke
# flint egret

Very cool/interesting anims for like explosions n beam attack , ooga booga

boreal grail
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adam rlly cast spell of un-kill discord thread with that one lmao

noble kiln
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mc eternal 2 before new year?

livid dirge
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The terrain regen is siiick,

tawdry rapids
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terrain regen is really cool

pastel atlas
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Daily Regen in

hybrid path
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seems the wither is learning some new moves

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I wonder if the block regen is an item you can set to save an area or one of those dungeons that doesnt let you break things till you complete it

livid dirge
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it would be cool if it was just a feature of the wither itself honestly, would add a cool element to making an area to farm withers

compact spruce
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the wither still contact breaks blocks, and the contact breaking is the main problem with containing it anyway

livid dirge
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oh, originally watched it on my mobile, just watched again and now seeing that

ancient cave
# flint egret

Great, I barely beat the wither with a shovel in mce1 and now it has lasers ๐Ÿ˜“

true coral
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That's really cool but I'm definitely gonna shove him in a box and farm him and his bloodline for eternity cause screw that noise ๐Ÿ’€

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It ain't much but it's dishonest work

vale vault
# flint egret

Wow that issss a lot to discuss, so claimed areas have anti grieifng since certain areas that were hit didn't drop blocks, either the or it's just explosions and not the contact breaking, also might be looking too into it and not sure if it was already confirmed but inventory pets chest tree? There is a dropped chest in the pile of wood and tree drops sorta like on of those those that spwn with the pets inside o.O

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Also small little dropped coins?

pastel atlas
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Daily check in

ancient cave
tawdry rapids
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no need for containment if theres nothing

pastel atlas
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โœ…

balmy thicket
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You missed a day

pastel atlas
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โœ…

pastel atlas
#

โœ…

undone forge
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โœ…

sonic sail
pastel atlas
hybrid path
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The dreaded check OUT

pastel atlas
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tajoia โœ…

distant smelt
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โธ๏ธ

undone forge
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๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆโœ…

sage lantern
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where

cinder rain
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soo uhhh what is about the checkmarks ?

cobalt monolith
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โœ…

white willow
pastel atlas
long finch
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Wishing you all a happy holidays! Apologies for off topic.

pastel atlas
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EvilToby โœ…

true coral
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Happy holidays check/lurk in fam ratlaugh

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Last nivht., My buddy asked me if there was a Christmas miracle and MCE2 was coming out todayMCE2

I then went to my backlog of Adam sneak peaks I hadn't showed him yet and sent him the Worldgen video and proceeded to act all surprised and amazed

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I got enough previews to hold him off for months ๐Ÿ˜Ž he only remembers to ask every 2 weeks or so RWkek

deft sluice
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Merry Christmas everyone!

pastel atlas
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peepo_think โœ…

undone forge
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EvilToby๐Ÿธ โœ…

pastel atlas
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almost forgor

still lagoonBOT
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You seem to have misspelled forgot. It is spelled forgot, not forgor

pastel atlas
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goatslist โœ…

deft sluice
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I forgor

still lagoonBOT
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You seem to have misspelled forgot. It is spelled forgot, not forgor

deft sluice
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Bad bot

sonic sail
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what about frogor?

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the frog

pastel atlas
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lel โœ…

undone forge
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๐Ÿธโœ…๐Ÿ‘ˆ

left steppe
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Ribbit

pastel atlas
pliant spoke
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๐Ÿ‘‰โœ…๐Ÿ‘ˆ

pliant spoke
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Not a regular

heady inlet
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Play McE more, you will most likely have more than enough questions to ask in order to become a regular (I speak from my own experience lol)

pliant spoke
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Iโ€™m holding out for 2 cuz I played mce 1 a lot already , havenโ€™t played other Mc mod packs either way

heady inlet
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Other mod packs just don't feel right after having played McE :/ but there is a dope advanture rpg modpack I've been wanting to try, but I got no time to play :(

pliant spoke
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True

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Iโ€™ll make time for 2 ๐Ÿฅธ

dreamy plover
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mce1 made us spoiled

livid dirge
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as much as I don't want to give FTB more credit, FTB Evolution is actually a prety fun pack

fiery jackal
livid dirge
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was more in reference to the conversation right before about adventure/rpg packs similar to mce but I get it

fiery jackal
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Ahhh I understand. My bad

livid dirge
pastel atlas
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decepcao ๐Ÿ‘‰โœ…

vale vault
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omg thank you for the cobblemon eternal O.O like, love your style of packs so cant wait to try it out before mce2

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best holiday/new years presenttttt

fallow plinth
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@pale bolt please dont post stuff like this

pastel atlas
craggy socket
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Looking forward to joining the turtle shell club โค๏ธ maybe finding a rat who can train me in the martial arts

pastel atlas
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First daily check in

true coral
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ayyyeee beat me to it

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first bi weekly check in

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๐ŸŽ‰ happy new years MCE fam

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Thanks again to Adam for all the fruits he has provided us โค๏ธ you are da bomb

sonic sail
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Truly a person of quality gifting the people with entertainment no one knew they needed

undone forge
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๐Ÿธ

midnight rose
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2025 is mce2 a year I can feel it

distant smelt
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mce2, more like mce2025

pastel atlas
#

When mce2077

still lagoonBOT
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There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.

pastel atlas
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damn

naive panther
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Plot twist, MCE has been ready to release "tomorrow" for months now but daily check ins get counted as a release delay on the backend

pastel atlas
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Daily count down in

livid dirge
pastel atlas
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362 days until Mce 2

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Or les....goatslist

kindred wyvern
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MCE is my favorite pack. I joined this a few years ago. I recently "checked in" to see what's up with the new game. I spent the evening reading through this whole thread.

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I feel like this dumbass thread could be made into a movie or a c**k porn.,lol ( context ) we are literally sitting in the corner waiting for adam to finish our new game.)

bold forge
kindred wyvern
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checks in guy is definitely my favorite character. The big reveal mid-way through is it's a 1.16 mod pack and everyone freaks out. It was a great read.

flint egret
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Everyone knew it was on 1.16 since the very beginning

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Anyone who was surprised by that wasn't fully in the loop

kindred wyvern
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I know. That's what made reading this thread so funny.

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it was just a couple years ago in the thread random antagonists started bringing it up.

kindred wyvern
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This 5 year long thread could be made into a hilarious youtube video

kindred wyvern
bold forge
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the latter, seems like a questionable word

kindred wyvern
naive panther
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Might be an idea to edit it out of the original message, that way your main sentiments remain but that specific phrase doesn't

kindred wyvern
naive panther
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I'm not an admin and I'm not having a go bud, I was just saying it might be the right idea, sorry if I gave the wrong impression

kindred wyvern
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Making a joke in 2025 is hardโ€ฆ

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Unless you own a cyber truck

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lol

fallow plinth
kindred wyvern
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Do something about it! Be like Luigi

fallow plinth
naive panther
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This just feels like a strange community and place to make those kinds of comments

kindred wyvern
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Stand up. Say no. Protest

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Jesus

fallow plinth
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no but I am

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and yeah they are right lol

kindred wyvern
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Are you actually fbi

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You are fine with your brothers dying on the street homeless

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Sorry

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Is this Minecraft

fallow plinth
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?mute @kindred wyvern 1h alright please stop clogging up this chat thank you

still lagoonBOT
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heathersand muted stonerkan for 1 hour. Reason: alright please stop clogging up this chat thank you

kindred wyvern
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Fine

fallow plinth
fallow plinth
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well since muting doesn't work here (as of yet).. I'm not the one to blame others for shite talking here since I am familiar with doing it, but please keep it in #โœจ-off-topic next time. We are all open for open discussions lol

pastel atlas
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Maaan shut yo mouth and check in

small flare
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Check up?

ember vale
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Hello guys

prisma atlas
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So now that this Cobblemon Modpack is out is MCE2 getting some love?

naive panther
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Mce2 never stopped getting love but these types of pack take time

small flare
livid dirge
pastel atlas
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361 days until Mce 2

vale vault
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I dont think i cant wait another 8,664 hours o.O

vale vault
elfin shuttle
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Hm

kindred wyvern
lofty flame
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Me when they are a the goat

kindred wyvern
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just checking inhiding_pain

pliant spoke
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Biweekly check in

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Man where daily check inโ€™s

pale bolt
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mce2 is not coming to 2025 ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fiery jackal
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Man not like we haven't heard that before...

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At least be creative

livid dirge
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I am starting to jump on the lock this channel team. It would make sense if it was only open for a few days or a week after a new sneak peak drops

livid dirge
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I mean I am not even on staff but the posts about a release date are just getting so old

white willow
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where cobblemon eternal 2?

wide jacinth
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Yeah I donโ€™t disagree with locking the channel except for a few days after new sneak peaks

proud iris
midnight rose
flint egret
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The modpack has existed for 4y in some capacity but its like the ship of Theseus, it has changed so much as I've redone previous work it basically shares nothing with the older iterations except it's name

small flare
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And we love it all the same Q_Q

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I frequently get new friend groups to play MCE and I then end up talking about MCE2 and showing them the sneak peaks, they end up just as hyped as I am

bleak lance
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I canโ€™t wait to dress up like a turtle

midnight rose
prisma atlas
# flint egret The modpack has existed for 4y in some capacity but its like the ship of Theseus...

Looking forward to this modpack when it comes out. With respect, I just wish there was more transparency when it comes to development. I like when you make a post/statement like this because it gives us some understanding of whatโ€™s going on behind the scenes. It has been a while, though, since weโ€™ve received a proper update, and to be honest, the whole Cobblemon announcement was so out of the blue especially after everyone was expecting MCE2 to be the next beta pack to come out.

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That being said, hope youโ€™re doing well and thank you for your hard work and dedication.

flint egret
flint egret
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I'm kinda sick of talking about it I feel like a broken record

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Cobblemon project was/is fun. That's why it got made

lucid forum
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I donโ€™t really talk a lot in here but I mean I think you making Cobblemon was a well deserved/needed break from just working on MCE2. Working on something continuously and people begging for it basically is a hindrance and sometimes makes it even harder! Adam youโ€™re doing great!! Everyone might be ready to play the pack and might even complain but rushing and annoying you just simply isnโ€™t helping the progress

pastel atlas
tawdry rapids
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my minecraft.. is eternal

small flare
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MCE is.... inevitable ?

heady inlet
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Maybe we have looked at it the wrong way...maybe its not McE2 but rather E=mc2

true coral
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Bi weekly lurk in
Rollercoaster catch up but dubs were had

bitter willow
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Is MCE2 still being actively developed and/or taken a backseat with the recent release of the new cobblemon eternal pack?

fiery jackal
flint egret
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This question has been answered a lot

bitter willow
# flint egret This question has been answered a lot

Odd.....I searched and found no posts in this channel that referenced any correlation or causal effect between the development/release of Cobblemon and MCE2....which is why I was asking if one existed. I think this is a fair question and I believe that your community would love to hear your thoughts on it.

heady inlet
bitter willow
# heady inlet It HAS been asked a lot, cut Adam some slack

To cut Adam some slack I would first need to be acting harshly or judgmental, I simply asked a question....one that I could not find any history of being asked in the thread. Perhaps I missed it....but that said, so what if I had? Asking a question isn't illegal, especially when done so with no ill intent. If politely asking a genuine question about development is going to cause people to have a meltdown, it might be wise to have these bad no-no questions pinned while maybe including an answer/explanation/update along with them.

pastel atlas
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Honestly, people here are just asking a simple question, they are being answered rudely, it doesn't hurt to just answer, It's becoming impossible to come here and ask a question without being greeted with dry answers and a certain tone of ignorance, that's not cool, good night.

fallow plinth
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If the work on MCE2 stopped this thread would've been obviously closed by now, or at least an announcement would've been made.

fallow plinth
bitter willow
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I've read countless times in this thread that expectations should be tempered with regards to MCE2.... As it is just a pet project..... Now with Cobblemon Eternal being called just a side project.... I'm wondering what the actual difference is between a pet and side project.

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Hopefully that question is allowed

bitter willow
pastel atlas
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For the release of mce2

flint egret
flint egret
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Chat is unlocked to allow discussion on todays poll

worthy cargo
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Does the dynamic version mean the bosses are not scaled at all if there is only 1 player nearby?

flint egret
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still scaled but much lower, say 50% - 80% harder than how they usually are in the mod

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compared to mce1 where bosses are like 10x harder

worthy cargo
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Ah alright then

fiery birch
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The dynamic option is amazing and i think will make bosses that are by default significantly more balanced as you cant just gang up on them. However, when i usually play on custom servers with friends there is usually that one player who can brute force the boss mobs. I dont know if this feasable, but maybe some hybrid approach which takes into account percentage of the quests completed as well as the number of players? I know that this sort of combined approach might be difficult to implement...

flint egret
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It will count the number of players in a 100 block radius and apply buffs to the boss based on that data

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That's the extent of what I can do I'm afraid

true coral
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Hmm, I've always wondered how other people feel about super healthed up mobs? I've always been a lil annoyed when a mf has an insane amount of health I have to work through, even with a mid tier weapon for it. Minecraft PvE combat is for the most part, flat, and super high hp stuff doesn't truly add layers of fun. It'd be cool if there was a way to make it so X weapon deals so little damage that it means you just leave and come back when you have Y weapon instead of sitting there cheesing a boss with a wood sword for 20 mins

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It sounds like dynamic will be more the vein I'd appreciate

vale vault
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I agree tha the normal approach of slowly whittling away at a super high health boss fight gets very boring, but one of the best parts I remember wad finding creative out of the box solutions to fighting bosses, like back with soul vials worked i would pir them against each other, or afterwards I would set up like a perimeter and use every bomb,lava bucket, random explosives and allies I could find to kill the boss

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Something I think would be really cool is that the bosses are extremely overpowered but they have specific weaknesses or ways to expose the weaknesses through different mods, like, idk a super powerful swordsman that is immune to magic, but if you can trap him in some kind of block formation trap or like, a specific nullifying spell you can remove his immunity and he is extremly vounreable to magic attacks, or like a ice giant that is vounerable to fire but only after you melt their ice armour with something superheated from a tech mod, like you can still brute force but finding little quirks that arent aleays obvious with a boss that makes it easier (and maybe secret that can be found via in game lore like a hidden book in a dungeon) would be awesomeeeee,

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Ooooo also just throwing it out there it could be like a spell that one player has to look at the boss to make it vounreable or freeze it in place but takes more damage if hit by a boss attack, so one player weakens it and the others can take it down, and for single-player you could sub it with a npc holding an item but ofc the npc would get hit easier, idk how hard that sort of stuff is to implement but like some of the chocoquest custom bosses (like using different spells and pattern attacks from other mods you learn to counter) I feel it could be really interesting to have those sorts of dynamics, sorry for wall of text >.<

craggy socket
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Just throwing in for folks with accessibility issues or who just struggle with the gameplay - being able to brute force encounters are sometimes the only way for these players to progress. Whatever you pick, it would be nice if there was an avenue for them to eventually be able to progress through the bosses

flint egret
# true coral Hmm, I've always wondered how other people feel about super healthed up mobs? I'...

we have a mod that heals bosses to full once you die three times, that will help a lot with the weak weapon spam because if you die you only have 2 more tries. many of the bosses also can break blocks and stuff so its very difficult to cheese it with a low tier weapon. i agree with your points about high health and minecraft combat. https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/deathbutthree

CurseForge

Players are not allowed to die for three times on one boss.
119.8K Downloads | Mods

flint egret
hybrid path
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The thing that has me debating the two the most is how if you are playing with friends there is usually one of us that rushes ahead a bit, with dynamic would be easier to solo a boss instead of having to advance yourself massively or work together like in MCE therefore letting them steam roll down the line?

flint egret
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could make it give more loot to offset the added challenge

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would that work do you think?

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maybe extra loot roll per player

hybrid path
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possibly, that would also give people more of a reason to do it together so they can grind items or gear with less fights. Especially if its any bosses that need specific harder to attain items to summon them

bold forge
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that seems pretty sound actually, just might be wise to allow it to filter out any loot that should only be single-drop ever

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i can see some situations that would be desirable, not too many though

hybrid path
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does the 3 deaths count per player or per boss fight?

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I could see big AOE attacks taking multiple people out and making a full heal almost every time if its like the dragon breath from ICE & FIRE. But that could also just mean you are punching up higher then your ability since we dont know how the leveling or bosses are structured in difficulty.

pliant igloo
compact spruce
compact spruce
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If boss stats are going to scale in multiplayer then that should probably be changed if possible

ornate swallow
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yeah getting squad wiped by an aoe attack and having to redo the entire fight since 3+ people got caught in an attack just sounds frustrating and would even encourage just solo fighting bosses instead of making use of working together in multiplayer settings

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you'd have to multiply the boss drops a ton based on the number of players to make it remotely enticing to take on a boss as a group since more people makes it increasingly difficult between scaling boss stats and more targets that could die and cause a boss reset

compact spruce
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Unless I'm reading the source wrong, it looks like they actually intended it to be per player and just screwed it up

hybrid path
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Maybe giving extra lives per player in the 100 block radius as well would balance it out? like 1-2 per player?

compact spruce
# compact spruce Unless I'm reading the source wrong, it looks like they actually intended it to ...

As I understand it, it works like this:
When a player dies to a mob that this mechanic is enabled for, it gets the mob's nbt and uuid, checks for a death count in the nbt, increments it if it's there, creates it if it's not, heals and removes it if it reaches the threshold.
Now here's the weird part: the death count is saved alongside the uuid, but since the uuid grabbed is the one of the mob that this data is being saved to, that part is entirely pointless. Obviously the mob's uuid is always going to be the same. The death count checker part also incorporates the uuid. By literally just changing 1 line of code (making the uuid variable in the function get the player's uuid instead of the mob's), it could be made to be per-player

silent imp
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from what im understanding it sounds like dynamic boss scaling will make the bosses more difficult for players playing in a party together but easier for single player compared to the first option. since im planning to play the pack mostly by myself (even if i join a server i like to beat bosses by myself) id like to have a challenge and have the difficulty of the pack be at least the same as it was for mce1 so maybe just do both options.

fiery birch
pastel atlas
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Dynamic damage and health based on player count is good, makes the game a fair challenge, and more players, and increased difficulty comes with great rewards

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Like in terraria

boreal grail
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if its the former it might scare newer players off, bc they dont wanna throw the fight for everyone else

flint egret
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i could change it so bosses just regen when everyone dies instead

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so as long as one person stays alive progress is saved

pliant igloo
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That would be pretty reasonable, and encourage having someone be a tank.

compact spruce
latent crag
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Regarding the type of boss scaling sneak peak. I think it would be cool to have both if that's even possible. I feel like the overtuned bosses have something to work for, at least for me. Mainly for the single player experience tbh

flint egret
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I mean I can have overpowered bosses by default and even more busted ones for multiplayer ratlaugh

hybrid path
flint egret
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many of the bosses will smash straight through your box

white willow
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What about hiding deep underground in a box?

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Or high in the sky

gritty badger
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add to have options for bosses ๐Ÿ™‚ easy mode or crazy mode :))

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prestige mode :))

mild basin
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anyone know if we'll have powah?

pastel atlas
flint egret
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Damage caps mean you only do x amount of damage to a boss. Example: You have a sword that does 30 damage, the boss has a damage cap of 15 so you will only do 15 damage.

High health is self explanatory

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Personally damage caps make the combat more intuitive compared to the boss shaped punching bags we are used to that require a million hits to kill. Or if you are too powerful, bosses that die in one hit. Balancing is hard. Simply increasing the numbers is a rather boring and dated approach to balancing

fiery jackal
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It would also make earlier bosses more barable, as hitting said sponge with a stick wouldnt be fun

ancient swallow
# flint egret Personally damage caps make the combat more intuitive compared to the boss shape...

But then what would be the point in trying to progress with better weapons if the really good ones get capped? I can see where the idea is coming from, but I personally don't like the idea of the cap. Sure, it will make the fights take longer for later-game players, but not neccessarily harder, just grindy-er. I'd rather be able to insta-kill a boss with a weapon I worked for than be forced to hit it multiple times due to a cap, when at that stage the boss probably isn't a huge threat to me anyway

flint egret
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it changes how you play in a sense and is generally better for the health of the game, instead of relying solely on what weapons have bigger numbers you might opt for a weapon that gives you a special ability or utility for that encounter. it also makes faster weapons more useful.

damage caps are only for bosses so it makes other weapons more useful due to certain weaknesses a boss might have. normal entities would have no caps so you are still rewarded for getting stronger weapons so you can one shot those.

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that's the main argument i would put forward

ancient swallow
flint egret
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each boss would have their own meta revolving around the weapons that work best, as opposed to there only being one or two viable weapons people use due to their high damage

flint egret
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i don't disagree with what you said, i actually agree, its important that players don't feel their progression is slowed or that they feel weaker but also need to allow for boss fights that feel interesting and challenging.

its a difficult balance to strike but there are a few tricks like damage caps, bosses having attacks that cut through armor and health etc that can make it seem like a proper boss encounter.

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the old ways of doing things is having bosses with a thousand health that do a thousand damage

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but i do feel that is dated

ornate swallow
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damage falloff instead of just a hard cap could be a decent middle ground if you balance the falloff right

hybrid path
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I think one thing that would help with keeping people from going "one meta, biggest numbers" is the versatility in options. I know with mods like tinkers there is technically a "best build" but what I loved about MCE was with so much variety of weapons, spells and items it didnt feel there was only one way of progression

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I think bosses having certain weaknesses or weapons attached to them is cool It would just feel bad to be limited if you made yourelf stronger then the current boss

ancient swallow
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So best of luck ๐Ÿ˜…

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One of the things for me that stands out in MCE1 is just how balanced the crafting recipes are, which allows for a much smoother progression, so I have faith you'll find a way

compact spruce
hybrid path
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what would it scale with, I know some mods make the game more difficult as you kill bosses vs others that count how many days you've been in the world

ancient swallow
ornate swallow
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idk about toastr's script but I was imagining damage falloff percents per boss, like instead of a 15 damage hard cap on one boss its 15 damage at 100% and then any extra damage you would have dealt only being like 20% of what it normally would be

ancient swallow
ornate swallow
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ig but it would just be math not something you can bypass

hybrid path
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So I assume in a server youd want to wait on people to all be of a certain level before making it harder by progressing, else they would find it difficult if still low tier

ornate swallow
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like in code form it would just intercept and modify the incoming values of a livingHurtEvent and return the tweaked value

cobalt monolith
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Will a mod such as progressive difficulty be in the modpack

ornate swallow
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idk man i'm just a cashier

steel glacier
pastel atlas
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We want a RuneScape 2 shader pack graphics

silent imp
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Yeah I agree with pheonix that grinding for strong weapons should be rewarded especially against tough bosses. Also Adam's point is good that pushing for versatility in combat would make the game more fun. I remember early mce1 I would change between several different weapons and magic to kill mobs and bosses which was a lot more fun than what happened by the end with me just using kikoku.

If there is a way to make you deal more damage because you are using better weapons but not so much more that some versatility still ends up being a viable and good choice in boss fights that would be great. I'm not sure how it would be coded in. But maybe some bosses can easily recieve x amount of dmg and past that there would be some damage fall off that means a 45 dmg sword ends up dealing the max (let's say 15) and the remaining 30 has to go through some resistance stat and ends up dealing another 15 instead for 30 full damage. That will still end up feeling like you upgraded when you upgrade from a sword with 30 damage that would deal 15 plus half of the remaining (just like last sword) for a total of 22.5 yet the difference isnt so huge that you might want to use that other sword or weapon if it's better suitable for the fight in other ways

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I just realised what I said is exactly what goathelix already said lol mb

hybrid path
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With this debate I do wonder what is more effective in giving a game progression, making things have more health and needing better weapons vs the enemy hitting harder or having special mechanics and you need more health or skills/items

pastel atlas
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Of course i agree the bosses needed to be buffed when there are more players on the world

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This is not RLCraft

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  • I hate rlcraft
fallow plinth
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what does RlCraft have do to with this...

ornate swallow
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in the spirit of doubling it and giving it to the next person, the recommended amount of ram has been doubled from 10-12gb to 20-24gb ||/s||

flint egret
# flint egret
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What do you like more for boss balancing

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Bosses have no damage caps and very high health

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RatonRat

wide jacinth
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wait will it actaully need that much ram

fiery jackal
wide jacinth
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oh good

wise fern
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Ok sneak peak from me , mce2 release will be on 22 march

fiery jackal
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no

wise fern
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Let me dream

fiery jackal
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You can dream all you want. But gotta keep people's expectation in check

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Don't need a run away hype train

true coral
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Damn the high health won, honestly understandable, there is a formula that always keeps people coming back for the 2 weeks phase, no need to change it up too much pensiveYEET

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I am certain the bosses will still be cool af based on the #๐ŸŽจmce2-dev-sneak-peek s

hybrid path
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Idk how seperate they are, but considering there are the normal and chaos modes maybe we could see caps return elsewhere. I wonder if its a per boss type of toggle or an all or nothing type of deal

dense totem
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Damage attenuation of a sort could be something

digital yacht
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reading

true coral
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Then it won in a diff form lol

hybrid path
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so its dynamic high health instead of dynamic with damage caps

mild basin
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high hp damage sponges aren't always the most fun to fight tbh, unless you have the damage to kill the boss within a reasonable amount of time

slender yew
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just do funny and become op

hollow gyro
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Hey idk if this info has been released yet or not but do we know if mce2 will be on forge or neoforge?

bold forge
hollow gyro
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Ah okay, didn't know that. Thanks!

compact spruce
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neo is only for versions past 1.20.1 (while it exists on 1.20.1, it's not significantly different from forge there)

viral swan
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I like how this chat has become an actual discussion room now, itโ€™s very nice

deft sluice
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Did the daily chicken guy get yeeted?

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Nvm he is still here! Woohoooo. Can't wait for this project to launch if ever ever does in any state mr. Adam gets it to ๐Ÿ˜„

true coral
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The chickens were never the problem BirbReally

pastel atlas
bleak lance
livid dirge
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So question for Adam if he sees this, I dont want to ping/bother him ๐Ÿ˜…

What has been the most fun mod or system to make so far for MCE2?

wanton wolf
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dead

flint egret
flint bolt
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crab

zealous lantern
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What is kubejs??

ornate swallow
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its a mod that lets you make scripts to do or make custom things

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a lot of the time its used for changing crafting recipes but it can do a lot of different things depending on how creative you are with it

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if you know what craft tweaker is it's similar to that sorta, I'm not well versed in either though so I couldn't tell you extensively what the different features are

digital yacht
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Modpacks with kubejs are goated. Lots of extra effort but it shows

bold forge
heady inlet
flint egret
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You are really only limited by your own skill and creativity

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Emper has made some truly insane stuff with kubejs alone

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There are limitations where a mod is better

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But it's a very strong tool

heady inlet
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Nice, gotta tell me after release what you guys have created with it :)

flint egret
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You can see some of it in the Cobblemon pack

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Legendary encounters, bottle caps and other cool stuff made with kubejs

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Where it really shines though is in the more technical side, you can easily change oregen, what ore spawns and such for example which makes it really powerful.

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Recipe scripts are easy and quicker to load than datapacks

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Just numerous usecases

hybrid path
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for someone not knowledgeable about modding what so the datapacks do thats new compared to without them?

digital yacht
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Datapacks are the official Minecraft way to edit the game so you're limited a tiny bit by what the Minecraft devs implemented as editable

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You could run a vanilla game with a datapack and get a kinda modded experience using exclusively Minecraft vanilla items and such

flint egret
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They are also slow and can badly affect performance

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But still extremely useful to have

hushed hazel
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^reminds me how someone recreated thaumcraft solely with kubejs, insane mod for creators

viral swan
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special announcement ยฟ

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did i miss it

flint egret
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its not till march 22nd!

maiden edge
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โ˜๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฝ

heady inlet
flint egret
dreamy plover
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yippie

white willow
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poliwhirl_pray please be an announcement for a beta test

flint bolt
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ily adam

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also do big modpacks that are newer versions run better on low end pcs? cuz im too scared to blow up my laptop lol

maiden edge
fiery jackal
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which is still much better optimized than 1.12

digital yacht
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^^^

fiery jackal
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dont know how it will run on lower end pcs though

digital yacht
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Honestly, one of the strongest versions to make packs for still

digital yacht
pliant igloo
compact spruce
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really?

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1.21 is pretty messy due to a whole bunch of factors

fiery jackal
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from what ive seen, 1.20 is pretty popular

pliant igloo
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True, I just haven't seen much to indicate modders are going, "we're putting down stakes on this version now".

flint bolt
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but THATS ALSO AWESOME

digital yacht
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With neoforge, it's gonna be messy for a moment

digital yacht
flint egret
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Cobblemon is a light pack

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Should run well on most pc's

flint egret
digital yacht
pliant igloo
flint egret
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I don't think we'll ever have a 1.12 level of version stability again unless something major shifts in how Mojang updates the game.

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Modding has gotten really fractured unfortunately

digital yacht
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1.12.2 was truly a modding time. Much like 1.7.10

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I think we'll see breakout packs on fringe versions for a while. Some of the 1.20 packs are insane quality because of the mods included

pliant igloo
digital yacht
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I'm hoping that the neoforge group gets to do the things they said in their announcement letter and we see a massive jump in quality again

flint egret
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Because of how much is changing between versions under the hood

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And how frequently mods need to be majorly changed or even rewritten

pliant igloo
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Because of how little time there is between version updates?

flint egret
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Just a crazy amount of work for mod authors

flint egret
digital yacht
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And it's typically a hobby

small flare
vale vault
# flint egret I think it's mostly Mojang. I kinda feel like the those loaders existing is good...

I think mojang is also a big reason why 1.7.10 and 1.12.2 became so popular, if im not mistaken those versions lasted the longest before an update so there was plenty of time for mods to be made during that time, (also think there were like stability reasons but im also probably the last person to ask about the technical stuff, just what i remeber from nostalgia veiled... well, nostalgia)

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does make me sad though with all the newer packs not being as crazy as the old 1.7.10 stuff, nostalgia for the mods of that era goes crazyyyyyyy, 1.12.2 was also close in many ways but, a looot of newer packs feel very very very simmilar in one way or another idk why

compact spruce
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so it took until 1.16 for a substantial amount of ports to happen

digital yacht
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I think there was a bit of a wall for a while too where every pack was just kinda a kitchen sink with a generic quest line and randomized rewards but there's been some cool break out packs lately that feel almost like a story

compact spruce
livid dirge
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I think a big thing too with 1.7.10 was the birth of big game rewriting packs like Sprout or Blight fall or the birth of intricate questing packs like MCE that actually force you to learn mods

flint bolt
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is there gonna be electrobob mod in the new one

paper vessel
silent imp
flint bolt
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I really liked the mod, it was very simple to understand and helped me get used to other complicated mods. Sad to hear it aint gonna be in the new one.

digital yacht
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I'm in their discord and they said they're porting to 1.20+. So unless someone pulls mega overtime, ain't happening

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1.16 really only has Ars as the premiere magic mod. It's a really good one though at least

mild basin
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i could be wrong

digital yacht
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double checked, you are correct

livid dirge
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I haven't kept up at all and can't find their discord. But anyone know the state of the thaumcraft port?

livid dirge
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Oh, thanks

small flare
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I'm not the only one who's been counting the days till the event right? I think the last one was in August and after my friends and I watched the stream we sat in another discord for the next hour or 2 talking about it

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If I remember correctly we were doing our 5th playthrough with the modpack at the time

flint bolt
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ive been counting down with my friends in my other server

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they keep telling me its going to be a PlayStation port announcement or something silly like that ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fiery jackal
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For everyone that doesn't know what /s means. It means with great sarcasm

white willow
vale vault
fiery jackal
vale vault
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oooooooo, that makes sense

heady inlet
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At what time in which time zone will the announcement be?

flint egret
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as far as im aware when you click on it, it shows local time

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for me though, 8pm gmt

heady inlet
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Thanks :)

oak frost
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Is the announcement invalid for anyone else?

digital yacht
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It's in the discord events tab just fine for me

compact spruce
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The link in #๐Ÿ“Œ-announcements expired for some reason, but the event is still there

midnight rose
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I hope its an mce2 crypto

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$MCE2

flint bolt
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mobile port announcement

compact spruce
flint bolt
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XD

flint egret
wise fern
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I hope its mce3 beta test

silent imp
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Announcement predictions ? (Wrong answer only)

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Adam is having a kid and we are the father

pliant igloo
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Adam won the lottery and will be buying Mojang from Microsoft.

cobalt monolith
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Adam cancelled mce2 in order to have more time to work on mce3

heady inlet
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Adam gonna leak GTA6 gameplay

fiery jackal
heady inlet
plush mortar
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Adam is announcing release of MCE for the Wii

quiet mango
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Adam is announcing

sand lake
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Adam is

vale vault
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Adam

silent imp
flint bolt
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the special announcement will be a date for another special announcement

craggy socket
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Adam is announcing that he just saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to no car

pastel atlas
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Adam will announce that mce2 will be delayed until early 2026 so as not to overshadow GTA 6

leaden kiln
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Been playing mce since 2020, my favorite modpack, can't wait to see what's in store for mce2

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Maybe he's announcing mce3

livid dirge
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Adam will be announcing just how delayed MCE2 will be from everyone asking

tight pawn
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Hey you, you're finally awake... MCE 2? Are you sure you're feeling okay? We released that years ago, it served as the foundation of this great empire we now call home... Now come with me, I have some exciting news about something ending in Four

plush mortar
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Itโ€™ll be the announcement of the prequel to MCE, MCE 0

hybrid path
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It will be the announcement a hardcore modpack MC Terminal, it uninstalls if you die once

silent imp
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Adam is going to announce he is joining the dark side and this channel is the sole reason why

digital yacht
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Plausible

digital yacht
plush mortar
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Only playable on Peaceful mode. No mobs.

heady inlet
true coral
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Nah, announcement that if you don't daily check in you're b&

compact spruce
worthy cargo
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Quack just pulls up and stabs you

plush mortar
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Sword Art Online but MCE

leaden kiln
heady inlet
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McE trading card game announcement

small flare
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Yesss!

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Finally

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I hope i get the turtle booster pack

flint bolt
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MCE2 NFT