MCE2 Sneak Peek Discussion

[flint egret]

Its mostly for jokes too

I do wish it said something funny like 'player ate uranium'

[fiery jackal]

Say something like. The player will never be hungry again

[flint egret]

Well magic is just science we don't understand yet

And I certainly don't know how radiation works

So in a way it checks out

[uncut chasm]

I know this isn't worth doing for the amount of work it might be. But I'm curious, is it possible to create new damage types? that you can then embed your own death messages in?

[bold forge]

it is possible with dark magic™️

also known as KubeJS Java invocation

you can make a new DamageSource() using such, provide it a string of the source's type, and then call it where you want to utilize said type

[slender yew]

every time I see a racoon
I am reminded of that one vid with them trying to wash cotton candy

[sand lake]

Bee Keepers log #3,418 - after hours of pixel analyzation, I did not see any bee hives in the recent sneak peaks, the future of the earth is looking dim, stay strong my dear friends, we haven't fully lost our massive alveary fields quite yet, the bees will save us

[uncut chasm]

Oh neat. Now I just need someone to incorporate a way to register when someone says something dumb and everyone around them takes psychic damage.

[rose bronze]

Okay Dr. Foster

[cunning marsh]

#1143760162478370836 message if this mod is in the pack it could also have Create in there since the mod description states the mod dev made a lot of create contraptions inside the dungeons

[arctic mirage]

well create's a hard dependency of that mod, so it's most likely in there

[compact spruce]

create being in the pack is one of the only hard confirmed things

[delicate mulch]

THAT'S NOT THE OVERWORLD

GOD YES

FAERIE DIMENSIONS

[boreal grail]

you can even see a fairy circle in the pic, tho im not sure if thats actually from the dim or if its a mega vein thing like in mce1

[cinder rain]

i think the new overworld like dimentions is eyther a mining dimention or lost citys and he is just super far away

[pale bolt]

ok these mce2 sneak peeks are really edging me now

@flint egret

[atomic lance]

What kind of auditory mods are being added/are there any being added?

Feel like thats one easy way of upping immersion which i've found to be a good addition in most packs

[novel willow]

Anyone have seen anything related to tinkers or some other modular tool mod?

[midnight rose]

I can’t remember but i think tetra was mentioned at one point

[novel willow]

cool

[sand lake]

me and the boys lookin for mystical hives in MCE2 fairy dimension

[flint egret]

what the hell

[sand lake]

We're just your usual group of "Bee Keeping Astronaut Wizards of Magic and Automation"

[fiery jackal]

that is a crime against minecraft

[sand lake]

psychological warfare for the bees

[midnight rose]

This makes me upset

[deep frost]

I crave the bees

[sand lake]

my disappointment is immeasurable and my day, ruined.

[sand lake]

We Bee Keepers have no home without our buzzy hard working little friends, they’ve been with us since the beast was first fed… if that image ruins your day I can only imagine what the usual box of bees in the mail is gonna do, I hope you’ve been saving, you’re gonna need all sorts of supplies to care for that colony, forever

[polar dome]

Drbamf what is your pfp

[silk lance]

when is it coming out...

[fiery jackal]

There is no release date

[vast ibex]

god damn, we will be able to play as rigby from regular show

[raven notch]

takes longer than GTA6

[fallow plinth]

a woman that stubbed her toe, obviously

[hidden bear]

Have MCE2 play tests start yet?

And not for devs. For the select few of people they pick

[white willow]

1 day later than it would have before you asked

[fiery jackal]

No, closed betas havent started yet

?unmute @fiery jackal

[still lagoon]

Successfully unmuted persius12

[silk lance]

what if i ask again

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-do-that-brandon-james-the-ms-pat-show-stop-that-thats-not-cool-gif-25239552

youre going to give people fasle hope

[narrow light]

I hope I’m not the only regular lurker checking back to this channel to see when we might see a release …

[fiery jackal]

That won't show up here. It will be a server wide announcement

[white willow]

i just check this channel so I can analyse every video slowly to find mods

[brave hound]

I enjoy people-watching folk that are either very funny or freaking out over block game

[heady inlet]

@unreal belfry ?

[unreal belfry]

🦀

[pale sage]

glad i can be the most interesting part of your day occasionally

[sand lake]

I have no idea its years old ive never changed it

[errant onyx]

You are not

[wicked plover]

If only jujutsu craft was a polished enough mod to consider in conventional packs, Sukuna would've made a great boss here

But it's kind of janky

[undone forge]

CRAB!!! 🦀🦀🦀

[unreal belfry]

[wary zodiac]

Nah I’d win

[iron crescent]

Sukuna Crazy Thursday

[sand lake]

At least 3 times a week 🙏

[grizzled scaffold]

Mce2

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[grizzled scaffold]

D:

[midnight rose]

😭

[undone forge]

😭

[uncut chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-never-happening-maurice-sistas-not-gonna-happen-no-way-jose-gif-22761716

[unreal belfry]

Crab

🦀

[grizzled scaffold]

It would be really cool if crab could spin or something.. just saying..

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/crabs-rave-crab-crab-rave-monstercat-gif-12505997

Crab rave is best

[twin jasper]

[grizzled scaffold]

Holy moly

[heady inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

[craggy socket]

I can practically hear the music

[heady inlet]

Important question: when how is McE2?

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/dramatic-cry-will-ferrell-gif-19823586

[mental ether]

People keep asking when MCE2 will be here, but they're not thinking about how it feels being rushed all the time

[still lagoon]

There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.

[mental ether]

the bot misunderstood me 😦

[flint egret]

Bad bot!

[fiery jackal]

?unmute @fiery jackal

[still lagoon]

Successfully unmuted persius12

[digital yacht]

I agree

[lethal rivet]

i just hope that one day i wake up and have announcement on discord

[uncut chasm]

One day, but not today.

Feel free to prove me wrong Adam I won't complain

[sterile quarry]

where is mr crab

[heady inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/leobylaw-gif-1468060797190473579

[undone forge]

CRAB

[ancient schooner]

[unreal belfry]

Crab

🦀

[sterile quarry]

CRAB

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-fellas-butters-stotch-south-park-s22e2-a-priest-and-a-boy-gif-20405240

[stark osprey]

I feel like this image should go on a list of reasons why MCE 2 will be delayed

[pale sage]

Can't be delayed they never announced a date apparently

Although my money is on starcitizen releasing first or at least the single player version

[stark osprey]

Ahh yeah, though I bet if MCE2 had a massive budget and spent as many years in development then it would be out in no time 😅

[grizzled scaffold]

would it?

[novel willow]

Sometimes games just need more time. Take KSP2. It sounded awesome. The trailers were awesome. What we got was a tech demo, years from being ready.

[pastel atlas]

There will be create on mce?

[compact spruce]

In mce2, yes. It's one of the only confirmed things

[pastel atlas]

yay

[tranquil prawn]

Do you guys recommend refined storage or ae2?

[uncut chasm]

Ae2, but that might just be personal taste

[digital yacht]

Both have their strengths but ae2 auto crafting is better since it has an innate knowledge of recipes that return a reusable material like buckets

Among other things

[wary zodiac]

AE2 is my endgame before I lose motivation to build some insane autocrafting thing with the mod

[digital yacht]

In MCE1 I had an AE2 autocrafting system that could craft probably 1/4 of the blocks in the modpack, maybe 1/3rd even. Took a long time and I made it a fully public system

was really fun

[wicked plover]

How is mce2 doing in the magic department? Astral Sorcery is my favorite and should be quite balanced now, and Ars Nouveau is the premier mod to try out in 1.16.5, so I wanted to ask about those two

[heady inlet]

I think Ars Nouveau is confirmed...but can be mistaken about that

[silent imp]

There is a thread for all the confirmed mods (through sneak peeks and Adam's messages) that you can check out

[mental ether]

yea i think Astral was confirmed in the confirmed mod thread.

[compact spruce]

Something to note: the thread is soft confirms, the mod list could still change before release

[tranquil prawn]

I believe botania was soft confirmed as well. I just finished it for the first time recently and it seems very strong

[spark swallow]

Will we be getting a new dodge mod added to MCE2? Like the ones i see with a blue > to indicate its charge/readiness? Instead of the current one in MCE (which i rarely use bc of armor)

Mod is called Combat Roll, but unfortunately its only available from 1.18.2 onwards... which iirc isnt MCE2 set on the 1.16 version?

[spark swallow]

Also will we be getting any actual skill trees? Like we have a meh version in MCE, and considering we are getting combat animations in MCE2, i wonder if we will be getting something similar to the trees from PoE but maybe less overwhelming/op?

[green harbor]

id say very strong is a understatement

[tranquil prawn]

you mean that

[topaz ingot]

On newer versions refined storage, much more optimized

[white willow]

botania isn't that strong tbh

[heady inlet]

But there isn't infinite range on the wireless crafting grid for RS right?

[errant onyx]

It isn’t inherently infinite, you need to craft something for it

[lyric cypress]

Ring of Odin

[ornate swallow]

that's like the one item that really stands out from the rest in terms of botania power scaling, the rest is pretty relative to vanilla tier gear unlike something like astral sorcery and its perk tree or kekanism and its tools

I generally don't take any botania armor/weapons to endgame since other stuff ends up better unless the pack is changing a lot of stats around at least

[pliant igloo]

Enchanting apparatus

[lyric cypress]

Flugel Tiara

[compact spruce]

that's kinda just another creative flight item though

sure it has the dashes but it also takes up your head bauble slot and requires you to keep a source of mana

[white willow]

i thought that was in ars nouveau, not botania

[compact spruce]

enchanting apparatus sounds like something from ars (i've never actually played with ars before), but botania has the mana enchanter, which is probably what they meant

[pliant igloo]

Yeah, that.

[undone forge]

Crab

[lethal rivet]

do you think that it will have create mod?

[compact spruce]

yes

[errant onyx]

Ars nouveau does have a magical enchanter but I remember it being good but not crazy, especially because (unless the recipe is changed) it’s only able to get vanilla and ars enchantments.

But it’s been awhile

[white willow]

OH ok that makes more sense lol

[silk lance]

i want to play it

[vast ibex]

MCE2 is such a strange name, i know that E means "Eternal" but what does MC mean? 😨 (i think it means minecraft???)

[lament viper]

secret lore : people think it means Minecraft but since Adam like Rats its actually More Cheese ( Not real lore just stupid funny Headcanon )

another hidden fake lore is that since it takes so long to release it also can read as : Massive Copium :p

[vast ibex]

if the dev is good he makes it canon 🙏

[stark loom]

Yo Guts chiefin that shit

[ancient schooner]

(If you name the seed More Cheese it just makes every block a cheese block obviously)

[grizzled scaffold]

what does eternal mean though? whats so eternal about mine craft (or more cheese) eternal?

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/never-ending-story-gif-24792258

[quartz zinc]

eternal wait to mce2

[fiery jackal]

also more like a never ending world of torture that comes to Emps brain

[vast ibex]

a question i have remains, would you want more cheese (a amount of cheese that will last for all of your lifetime) or eternal cheese (it just regenerates after taking a bite)

however, the right answer goes back to the beginning, eternal more cheese means you will have a abnormal amount of self-regenerating cheese

although, if to take it literally, it is "more cheese eternal" and not "eternal more cheese", does that mean that eternal is more cheese? so many questions not responded 😢

[grizzled scaffold]

it would be cool if i had infinite cheese tbh. i think i would make nachos

[boreal grail]

if you slice the regenerating cheese, does it still regenerate? because if it does you can always just stock up on sliced chunks

that way if you make nachos it doesnt burn your chance at infinite cheese forever

[grizzled scaffold]

I like to imagine that only one half regenerates, whichever one has more particles or something

[craggy socket]

regenerating cheese would be horrifying. imagine eating a grilled cheese sandwich and afterwards your stomach just keeps getting fuller and fuller at the cheese within grows. more cheese could be bad too - trying to find enough space to store it all

[compact spruce]

But would you rather have infinite games but no cheese or infinite cheese but no cheese?

[ancient schooner]

It would take a lot for me to give up cheese

[digital yacht]

quality reference

[vast ibex]

i think i learned something about cheese today, not sure though

[grizzled scaffold]

i think we all did

[ancient swallow]

Is there a list of confirmed mods for mce2?

[craggy socket]

the closest you'll get is the other discussion thread that's talking about probable mods that have been spotted in screenshots and stuff (though any of those could be removed before release)

[ancient swallow]

okay, does anyone know if it has advanced rocketry?

(Or something similar)

[bold forge]

AR on 1.16 was horribly buggy last i knew, so as of now it's likely not in the cards

other space mods aren't out of the question however

[ancient swallow]

okay, it was one of my favourite integrations in mce1 so hopefully y'all find something that is comparable

[undone forge]

🦀🦀 Crab 🦀🦀

[undone forge]

Eternal Copium, double dosage

[white willow]

More Crabs Eternal

[vast ibex]

a abnormal amount of self-regenerating crabs would be arguably worse than a abnormal amount of self-regenerating cheese, i mean, cheese is not a living being (or is it?) meanwhile crabs do crab stuff

[boreal grail]

the real question is, does the self-regenerating cheese expire?

bc if it does, the ability to just slice it to get more wouldnt be useful for very long

[boreal grail]

and yeah, thats how itd function in my mind - the smaller piece just acts like regular cheese from then on

[white willow]

what if you somehow cut it exactly in half

[sand lake]

2 regenerative cheeses?!?!?

[boreal grail]

itd be insanely difficult, but ig two infinite cheeses is a worthy reward for that!

[pliant igloo]

You know, this could be possible to put in the game. A big cheese wheel could be placed like a cake and you'd get slices of cheese by using a sword, knife or similar on it. It could regenerate in a way similar to a Thaumic Cake.
https://ftbwiki.org/Thaumic_Cake

[boreal grail]

i think were onto something here 👀

[sand lake]

ill pay good money 🙏 (im poor)

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-burning-money-heath-ledger-gif-5265867

[heady inlet]

Joker voice: "It's about the Lopunny, Batman...THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST THE POKEMON, BATMAN!"

[uncut chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/im-gonna-do-it-batman-lopunny-theres-no-laws-against-the-pokemon-pokemon-joker-gif-314226898576851043

[grizzled scaffold]

I have a feeling we will get a new sneak peek tomorrow

[fiery jackal]

if you are lying, im going to hit goat with cheese

[midnight rose]

How would you prove he is lying

[fiery jackal]

because if there is no sneakpeak tomorrow, that means he lied

[fallow plinth]

I'll get you @fiery jackal

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/seuss-cat-cat-in-the-hat-ill-get-you-murder-gif-17584779

[compact spruce]

not really, he just said he has a feeling that it'll happen, not that it will happen for sure

[bold forge]

what if i make the prophecy come true

[fiery jackal]

Then goat still gets cheesed

[fiery jackal]

T-5 hours till goat gets the cheese

[vast ibex]

infinite cheese after beating the entire modpack? now that would make "More Cheese Eternal" be a actual good modpack

[compact spruce]

"Lifetime Supply of Cheese", a repeatable checkmark quest that can only be done once all other quests are done, gives you a stack of cheese

[sterile quarry]

could be a buyable reward after beating a rats chapter or somthing too

[vast ibex]

🗣️ 🔥

[sterile quarry]

is that a good reaction or?

[vast ibex]

good reaction

[sterile quarry]

like and it wouldnt be op because atleast in mce1 everlasting food isnt too hard to get with a basic farm
and even without that you can just make a bread farm and get the same if not better value

[vast ibex]

question is, why would you only be able to buy cheese after beating the entire rat questline, after which you would have no real reason to keep taming rats in a progression context

[sterile quarry]

its a food

and it would be to buy an infinite supply

[vast ibex]

but there would probably be other better buyable food unlocked

[sterile quarry]

like buy a pre req quest and have a repeatable quest with a stack of cheese

and it would cost alot of coins

[vast ibex]

hm

cool

[bold forge]

funny

[midnight rose]

Call me Tom cause I’m always trying to sneak a peek

[vast ibex]

my entire argument (idk if i can even call it a argument lmao) after seeing this: 😨

[grizzled scaffold]

We are but a moments away from that mce2 sneak peek

I can feel it in my bones

[fiery jackal]

you are a hour late and goat has been cheesed

[midnight rose]

Nah there is still 6 hours left in the best time zone

[wise fern]

Where is mce2 😞

[atomic lance]

You have to realize that alot of the charm with MCE questing wasnt necessarily from the «why» but more from the «why not»

Atleast for me

Its those small extra things that make it special

Although the outlook for MCE2 seems to be a new level of polish

[white willow]

Personally I like the MCE questing because it gives me clear goals to work towards. The rewards don't matter to me

[vast ibex]

questing modpacks made me unable to play modpacks without quests because i dont know what to do, then i quit after 3 hours of gameplay and never touch it again

[heady inlet]

I am only able to enjoy questing modpacks with random rewards since McE

[compact spruce]

Yeah. Last time I made a homebrewed pack I put a bunch of quests in it just for that. I never added any rewards and they're in a weird, incomplete state overall, but it still helped me feel less directionless

[unreal belfry]

Crab

🦀

[boreal grail]

exactly!!! mce1 quests are like the cave johnson clip abt safe science
https://youtu.be/VPpIjhtgGj0?si=dwxW6jk9h5RCoAr8

for better or for worse in some cases, lol (lookin at you, moms spaghetti)

i say that but the haphazard variety in mce1 does have the merit of making you explore a ton of the mods in the pack, which is always a good thing

[vast ibex]

More Cheese Eternal 2 has to have a lemon quest where you have to make a pack of lemonade

and the reward is just more lemons

[boreal grail]

the followup quest is to craft lemon grenades

[royal token]

what about a RAT GRENADE

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1018900818029727774/1081364860312502372/ratBoomDoom.gif

[heady inlet]

what about cheese turret?

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-fountain치즈분수테이스티훈테스터훈-gif-19085017

[vast ibex]

cheese turret could be a way to both defend your base and if you are in range of it, get auto feed aswell

not a bad idea tbh, could be useful until you get another method of auto feed

[lyric cypress]

while not the sole thing left to be finished before release, a very large custom structure for the pack is still being built and polished. I have a feeling once that's done we'll see the private alpha being handed out to adams close friends and contributors

just an educated guess tho

[viral swan]

MCE2 Will come out when it does, best thing you can do is not worry about when it will. The team has been working on the project for years, there’s a lot more that goes into making a modpack than just finishing a custom structure.

[lyric cypress]

me when i speculate in a channel for speculation

[undone forge]

🦀🦀🦀 Crab 🦀🦀🦀

[white willow]

🐸

[vast ibex]

cant believe that Penguin with a Hammer put a 🐸 instead of 🐧 🔨

[midnight rose]

I can feel it it’s dropping in 5 minutes

[grizzled scaffold]

Can't believe dog said all that instead of 🐶

[heady inlet]

Can't believe Pop said all that instead of

[ancient schooner]

[flint egret]

getting back in the swing of things

mini quest teaser

and for anyone who was curious about random quest loot

||over 1k possible rewards ||

[sand lake]

[cobalt monolith]

Will there be other quest loot chests such as the black market crate in MCE?

[left scarab]

[rose bronze]

Perpetual motion machine

[grizzled scaffold]

Perceptual motion machine 🤔

[covert copper]

The only thing in perpetual motion is the release date.

[midnight rose]

And me 🤑💵💷💶💴💵💵

[flint egret]

special quest reward

[gentle moat]

Can't wait for the sequel to my favorite pack. Everything looks great ;D

[steady wraith]

Anyone find a good substitute while we wait for MCE2? I’ve been trying to find on similar to MCE but on 1.16.5

[gentle moat]

Only other pack I've played and really enjoyed was Dungeons, Dragons, and Space Shuttles but that's a whoooooooole journey lmao

[digital yacht]

that's an expert pack start to finish.

[digital yacht]

RagnaMod was pretty good. Engimatica6 was fun too. But the quests aren't as fun as MCE

[grizzled scaffold]

also try terraria!

[vast ibex]

"I am a dwarf and I'm digging a hole"
"Diggy, diggy hole, diggy, diggy hole"

if there is a TNT mod in MCE2 that adds a TNT that explodes into a hole all the way into bedrock level, i think this quest reward would be related to that hmmmm

[novel willow]

Wouldn´t that time they cheated in red matter explosives and blew up their base be a more fitting reference?

[novel willow]

Also tinkers construct confirmed

[raw ridge]

Do we know have any idea of what the mod list is like?

Will we get Malum to replace thaumcraft?

[uncut chasm]

There is a discussion for that with the list of all known/what we can tell of mods in the pack that have either been shown or we were told will be in the pack.

https://discord.com/channels/640591918752858122/1143760162478370836

[sand lake]

adam, will there be a lot of cool interactions between mods in this modpack? for example, since upgrade aquatic is being added, a lot of their corals are not compatible with many things, including ars nouveau crushing for dye, etc..

another example is ice and fire: there's an entity_type tag scares_cockatrices.json, which should include any ferret or weasel mobs.

great opportunity to add immersion!

[vast ibex]

the cockatrice watching as i make a army of ferrets around my savanna base (she cant bully me with wither beam anymore):

[raven notch]

The only thing i love is i now have a saying with a friend of mine... whenever i see him i say "When" and he answeres with "WhenPLS". And i think thats beautiful

If responding directly to me please @me

[atomic lance]

[vast ibex]

if responding directly to you is to DM you, then what pinging is?

responding indirectly?

[raven notch]

Bruh i meant ping

Im at work and cant keep up chat haha

[sand lake]

cockatrice:

[dreamy plover]

so excited for the modpack

[midnight rose]

MCEtra2

[brazen mortar]

Adam should totally make the pack a $2-$10 purchase for early access to reward him for the time and effort that went into making the pack. I’m sure most of us would like to give back in some way

[digital yacht]

There is a page where you can send support in the form of money if you want

[atomic lance]

Where??

[sand lake]

click on adams profile, im pretty sure theres a link to buymeacoffee

[vast ibex]

i dont have money 😭

[undone forge]

Crab

[wise fern]

cant really wait to see a great modpack with create

[unreal belfry]

Crab

🦀

[vast ibex]

what if, MCE doesn't mean More Cheese Eternal
what if MCE actually means More Crab Eternal 😨

[sonic sail]

I know everyone wants to know how the pack is doing but I want to know how the Adam is doing

[lament viper]

Need Blue Cheese sauce and its full circle orrr .. full Cheese Wheel , both are round

[novel willow]

Can´t the create waterwheels take wood textures? The moon could have cheesewood

[lament viper]

think it only works with Vanilla plank textures and thats also only in 0.5.1

[novel willow]

I could swear I did it with archwood

but not sure

[rose bronze]

mind blowing theory, what if it means More c'Rats Eternal

[sterile quarry]

what if it means mega crabs eternal

[grizzled scaffold]

what if it meant like, minecraft eternal

[lyric cypress]

I'd like to not have to sign my soul away to play this next pack

[pliant igloo]

I guess you never managed to buy your soul back.

[lyric cypress]

I did, and I got this cool yoyo

[pliant igloo]

Sadly, I'm fairly sure that there will not be yoyos in MCE2.

[lilac reef]

It's always when is it releasing? What mods are going to be in it? Can you add this or that?
But never how are you doing? Are you enjoying the development? 😔

[vast ibex]

nah, i think you're wrong idk

[craggy socket]

maybe it's actually short for MiCkEy 2 - and the whole pack is a tribute to Toni Basil's 'Hey, Mickey!"

[boreal grail]

unrealistic, blocked /j

[raw ridge]

1.14.4??? Who gives up on development in 1.14.4?

[vast ibex]

context?

[raw ridge]

oh sorry, yoyos mod

[vast ibex]

no yoyos in Mega crabs eternal 2 😭

[grizzled scaffold]

Bridget guilty gear:

(she uses yoyos)

[compact spruce]

Maybe someone who likes the pre-nerf villagers where librarian bookshelf rates are stupid high and restocks aren't limited

[lyric cypress]

Modders when they have to rewrite their entire code bc Mojang decided to add ears to bats and change chest data to be stored in letters instead of numbers (it's for optimization purposes)

[raw ridge]

Oh yeah... They did that in 1.15 didn't they

[lyric cypress]

They change some dumb shit literally in 2-5 subsections per major update

for example modding in 1.19 has differences to modding in 1.19.3

and there is no standard besides the somewhat agreed upon major 5-6 versions

luckily 1.20.1 looks to be the new standard bc we have stuff like the Sinytra connector which always fabric mods to run on forge

so give it a few years and the modding scene will be dramatically improved

[ancient schooner]

Thats.. painful

[compact spruce]

meanwhile there's the forge/neoforge split

[lyric cypress]

at least forge and neoforge mods are usually compatible

[flint egret]

~~bonus sneak peek ~~

[lyric cypress]

The Gays have conquered Everest!!!

and the tilted ruined portal looks sick

[sand lake]

I cant wait to run a 4 player MCE2 server on a dedicated 14900k box

We're on high alert fellas, butterflies spotted

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-25837101

[digital yacht]

my performance server is also itching to run 24/7 again

[novel willow]

There seem to be shaders in some of the sneak peaks. Do we know if these will be included in the pack? Never got them to work in MCE1:D

[sterile quarry]

only issue with 14th gen is that 15th gen will have a new socket so it probaly could of been better to wait a bit before building a new pc unless this was an upgrade to an existing mb

[flint egret]

yeah most shaders will work in MCE2 + the one used in sneakpeeks is included in the manifest so it'll auto-download from curseforge and be click and play essentially

[novel willow]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[sterile quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[novel willow]

cmon that was uncalled for

[sterile quarry]

im sorry but ive never been able to do it before

others were too fast

[novel willow]

Are you a dad?

[sterile quarry]

iirc you get perms at level 10

[sterile quarry]

no im a teenager

[novel willow]

No dad joke then

[sterile quarry]

honestly adam i cant wait for mce2 and i bet it will be great with all the time your putting into it

[sterile quarry]

oh btw please disable pings on reply

[twilit bane]

Ayo, is that second sneak peek picture got the Archimedes ship mod in it?

[twilit bane]

Hmm...now I am even further curious

[grizzled scaffold]

I really really like the tree in the left side of the sneak peak

[vast ibex]

the second just looks to be more detailed

or smth idk

shadow stuff

[vast ibex]

level 10?

[twilit bane]

I've always loved the waystone mod, so the 2nd picture was a winner for me as well

[sand lake]

I haven’t bought it yet 🙂 waiting for the release before I get back into mc

[sterile quarry]

then do wait for 15th gen intel do do an amd build

also do mind pings on reply

[prisma atlas]

Any updates on a potential beta?

[bold forge]

eventually™️

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-many-months-later-three-weeks-later-waiting-so-much-later-gif-16351997

[flint egret]

this is a very pretty world - seed is -3215334513298138596 for anyone that wants it when MCE2 is on curseforge

[still lagoon]

There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.

[bold forge]

i mean don't you think we might add or remove some things that affect worldgen

[flint egret]

true that's a good point, in that case this seed might work for me and me only

[brave hound]

Every world is a pretty world if you look hard enough

Look especially hard if half of the pretty stuff is deleted

[raw ridge]

Quick, someone use this screenshot to reverse engineer the modlist so we can build MCEternal 2 ourselves

[bold forge]

well you'd get at most a fifth of the modlist

[pliant igloo]

I want to build a base up there.

[raw ridge]

Just copy all the mods from the ATM 1.16 pack to fill up the other 4/5th of the pack

It'll probably be at least 90% correct

[flint egret]

me too

[wary zodiac]

[pliant igloo]

Nothing like hanging out at the edge of your mountaintop homestead and looking down at the clouds.

[twilit bane]

Oh no, those Lizards with wings are back

[lilac reef]

Out of curiosity is the yellow circle next to the moon in space or much closer? I can't tell since no depth

[raw ridge]

Will MCE2 have good quests or will it have quests like MCE1?

[flint egret]

firefly - very close to the camera

[lilac reef]

🤨

[flint egret]

well that's a tad bit rude, but i get your point lol.

good? hopefully?

i put a lot of effort into them :>

[naive peak]

Pretty sure the quests in MC1 were top notch 😉

[raw ridge]

Wait, will MCE2 have a challenge mode?

[compact spruce]

#🎨mce2-dev-sneak-peek message
perhaps not in the same sense as mce1, but there'll be something harder than default

[flint egret]

eventually but its not currently being worked on

[compact spruce]

fair. better to get everything working smoothly first

[raw ridge]

Is it using kubejs or still crafttweaker?

[bold forge]

we're using kubejs so far

[raw ridge]

I've contributed to a pack using kubejs, don't be afraid to borrow some code from create above and beyond if you need to

[lilac reef]

absolutely beautiful

oops sorry for ping

[midnight rose]

I can feel it

Its just hop skip and a jump away

[ancient schooner]

I NEED TO BE THERE.

[lyric cypress]

Holy christ thank god better end is in mce2

[lyric cypress]

Hey adam is this pack that youve poured half a decade of blood sweat and tears into gonna be worth playing or is it just a pile of ass?

[vale vault]

literally impossible for mce2 to be subjectively bad, only objectively good

[heady inlet]

At some point those sneak peeks aren't considered a sneak peek anymore, it's just plain torture to see this and not being able to play it

[vast ibex]

name a minecraft instance as "MC 2" then use a eternal stella on it, then you will get MC Eternal 2

[uncut chasm]

You all talk about building a base on the mountain. I'm looking to build a base next to the moon in space

https://tenor.com/view/space-dance-nasa-artemis-dance-floss-gif-15935992

[midnight rose]

Yeah I’m pretty sure he just spent the past 2 years taking a shit on his computer

[pliant igloo]

Pretty sure sWz was being sarcastic.

[midnight rose]

i was too

[vast ibex]

🔥

[heady inlet]

I wasn't

[flint egret]

readable? thoughts?

[pliant igloo]

It makes sense, and now I'm curious about "The Land Deeds".

[craggy socket]

reads fine. i also like unlocking more as an activity to do 😄

[digital yacht]

I wish the ftb team would've completed the GUI for the party maker in 1.16.5 since there are no mods quite like it

[silent imp]

Big agreed with this

[vast ibex]

land deeds is either a questline with multiple milestones, or a coin sink

[flint egret]

It works fine pretty much

I haven't seen anything wrong with it except for the message saying it's unfinished

[digital yacht]

Ah nice. Guess it's been a bit since I played a 1.16 pack, glad to hear it works

[uncut chasm]

Adam you've been spoiling us lately. So many sneak peaks these past few days (compared to usual anyways) we love it, please continue.

[sterile quarry]

honestly adam is one of the best pack devs and this is one of the best pack servers because the staff are so active helping everyone

[ancient schooner]

We love Adam. And everyone else

[midnight rose]

what if you sneak peaked the download files in my dms 😊

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/downvoted-navixsport-navchat-gif-18871398

[vast ibex]

I do not love Adam. (just kidding)

[stark osprey]

I also love Adam, he is my crush 😳

[nimble sorrel]

👉👈

[vale vault]

MCE2 factions server o.O

[vale vault]

yea absolutely

[raw ridge]

prism launcher moment

[heady inlet]

Bigger Nether

[pliant igloo]

Well we know Rats is in the modpack, and pizza is highly likely to be present.

[unreal belfry]

Crab

🦀

[cinder rain]

skyrim nice

[vast ibex]

😨

[silent imp]

Can I ask how many quests will there be approximately? Like more or less than 500 ?

[bold forge]

quantity of quests is a stupid factor you shouldn't be judging anything based on

however, they will be of good quality, i can assure that

[naive peak]

10 quests of amazing quality is better than 100 of questionable quality. E.G: Kill 10 pickle monsters is worse than ..something cool.

[midnight rose]

I would like to kill 10 pickle monsters 😪

[lyric cypress]

hey adam can u give us any sneak peek relating to the methods of obtaining creative flight? is it gonna be similar to the changed recipe of the angel ring?

[vast ibex]

kill 10 pickle monsters and kill the pickle god, now that is a amazing quality quest

[silent imp]

I already know the quality is going to be great that's why I'm wondering about the quantity

[craggy socket]

don't make fun of the pickle monster 😦 it's a big dill 😦

[fiery jackal]

I should put you in line out for that one

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-reynolds-goddammit-damn-hitmans-bodyguard-hitmans-bodyguard-gifs-gif-8352668

[uncut chasm]

The times has come. It's time for picolas cage to join mce2

[craggy socket]

love to see the face/off sequel doing well like that

[sly spindle]

didn't pickle ur fancy?

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-gif-9137551

[midnight rose]

🤕🤕

[wicked plover]

Yeah I agree with this, getting creative flight was hard in mce, I wonder how it is in mce2

[fiery jackal]

i mean creative flight is super busted. So of course it was and is going to be hard to get

also

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-pandorica-river-song-doctor-who-gif-18293417

[flint egret]

complementary shaders are so beautiful

[cobalt monolith]

T̸̽̕h̷͐͌e̸͌̚ ̶͒̐f̸̾̐ō̵͆g̶̀ is coming̷̾͂

T̸̽̕h̷͐e fog͘ ̸̉̇i̶͐̍s̷̒̔ ̸̐coming

Th͐͌e̸͌̚ ̶͒̐f̸̾̐ō̵͆g̶̀͘ ̸̉̇is coming

[heady inlet]

sry I have the "I can only see the shaders while playing McE2" disease...would need access to see it

[midnight rose]

it must be contagious because i think I have that too

[vast ibex]

mfw playing on render distance 2

[heavy steeple]

My favorite part of MCE was the quests and associated systems like the shop, so I'm excited to see @flint egret continuing to build on that same formula. Definitely liking what I see!!!

[flint egret]

did somebody say bigger nether?

[heady inlet]

Yes I did

[bold forge]

big nether

[heady inlet]

see

[compact spruce]

bigger netherer

[raw ridge]

Is that the mod that makes the nether 256 blocks high... I'm really not sure if that's a great idea, that mod turns the nether into a lagfest that's too big for its own good

You need a high render distance to even see the ceiling

[uncut chasm]

Honey trees?

[flint egret]

it works pretty fine for me. entity culling helps a lot with the lag.

[ancient schooner]

Skill issue

[flint egret]

nether fly-through

[flint egret]

this is with shaders and high render distance on my pc. avg nearly 60fps and all my settings are high. so its not really a problem, at least for me. but i guess we will discover if its a problem for others.

[raw ridge]

This mod alone was enough to make my computer struggle back when it had only 8 gb of ram. And I wasn't happy with how empty the nether was

[flint egret]

well 8gb of ram really isn't very much

and its empty if you don't add biome mods and configure their sizes to your liking

new fancy skybox I've been playing around with

with shaders

[rose bronze]

8gb isn't alot of ram for modded mc these days. Most packs I've messed with are wanting 10-12, some 16, one wanted 30.

Also, which version of complimentary shaders are you using/shipping with the pack? I prefer the unbound version

[ornate swallow]

I mean it's literally the same thing but with a different button pressed in the settings, but that looks like reimagined considering the clouds

[uncut chasm]

That looks insanely good, more of that pls.

[flint egret]

Bonus quest teaser before I head to sleep.

[pliant igloo]

Hmmm, is there a way to tell that ||the approaching trader is actually the thief? A lack of llamas, perhaps?||

[flint egret]

||the clue is their llamas ||

[lilac reef]

||Different carpet colors or eye color 👀||

[compact spruce]

||i think it might be that they're just normal llamas or perhaps even llamas with carpets rather than the authentic trader llamas
...which are an entirely separate entity to handle their despawning rules||

[pliant igloo]

If we're lucky, ||the thief's llamas won't be as loyal to them as the real trader's llamas are||.

[bold lagoon]

\

[nimble sorrel]

I'm the Highwayman

[lilac reef]

||ok this would be sick||

[sand lake]

everything about this looks great, it just seemed to be struggling with chunk generation at the end.

[silent imp]

Considering there are sneak peaks that go back almost 3 years ago has stuff been scraped since/changed by a lot ?

[flint egret]

Absolutely. It is a large modpack and it struggles with chunk gen sometimes. But usually not so bad it's a problem.

[flint egret]

Yes lots

[pastel atlas]

is this a plannet?

[pastel atlas]

Oh damn

[flint egret]

It's the overworld but you can see planets from the surface

[pastel atlas]

Oh that's really beautiful

About mc performance i think 8gb is enough on newest versions

[flint egret]

Definitely depends on the modpack

[sonic snow]

Any idea on recommended for MCE2? Eyeing a server for me and my friends like a new game about to release.

[digital yacht]

It's going to be similar in performance to other large 1.16.5 packs would be my assumption. Find a huge kitchen sink pack and load it up to see what happens

Typically packs in the 300-400 mod range require 9-12gb (9 with graphics settings tweaks like chunk distance down) and at least some semi recent hardware depending on how high you want the graphics set and fps to reach

I've played a ton of huge mod packs and there's usually only so much difference in performance due to them all having access to the same performance mods

[digital yacht]

I also have a massive amount of server hosting experience. Typically you are going to need 4gb base for the server and then about 150-250mb of ram per player depending on how much they like to explore. If you plan on running regular backups, a good amount if disk space is needed, around 100gb to be safe. CPU needs to be relatively modern and have strong single core performance. Chunk pre-loading will save you a massive amount of performance here and only takes anywhere from a couple hours to a couple days depending on the chunk range you put out

If I do about 1k chunks in diameter, around 16k blocks wide so a lot of distance, my ryzen 5600x takes about half a day to a day to get that loaded up on larger packs. Then when your friends start running around, they're not generating chunks, they're just being served generated data

[heady inlet]

Adam might I ask what your pc specs are?

[vale vault]

what the bee doing at :26

[bold forge]

minding its beesness

[vale vault]

fair

just wondering why its rapidly descending into the depths of a lava pit in the nether

the true boss of MCE2 reveals itself

[grizzled scaffold]

Those wings look freaking fire 🔥

[dull maple]

Will there be a Official Server ?

[bold forge]

probably not, but you never know

[ancient schooner]

accidently sets render distance to max
pc catches fire

[undone forge]

crab crab crab

[uncut chasm]

The closest thing to an official server will probably be quacks server.

You still doing a server for mce2 right? @peak thicket

[peak thicket]

Most likely

[steady wraith]

I can't wait for MCE2 to give the boost the modded community needs. Mod devs need a spark of inspiration to keep giving it their all. 😄

[digital yacht]

If I feel like doing a massive pregen, I might be willing to do a public server as well

[digital yacht]

I usually only host for small-medium groups where I know everyone and only use the modpack built-in grief-protection features. Are there more you would recommend to add before opening to the public?

[flint egret]

We could make a guide for prospective server hosts

[digital yacht]

I would be willing to host a 24/7 community server if I have some help securing it from exploiters and griefers. I own all my own hardware and have a solid fiber connection

[flint egret]

I'll publish some sort of guide

its beneficial to the community

[heady inlet]

@digital yacht how does one preload/gen chunks on a hosted server?

[uncut chasm]

https://legacy.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/chunkpregenerator

[heady inlet]

thanks

[vast ibex]

when i was younger, i always misread this mod as "Chunk-Pregnator"

[uncut chasm]

Lmao, I don't even want to imagine what that would look like.

[sly spindle]

Or do you..

[uncut chasm]

[wary zodiac]

[vast ibex]

😨

[pastel atlas]

Ftb utilities have the most essentials mods to create permissions and protect base with claim system

Idk if is updated to 1.16

[digital yacht]

I'm pretty familiar with those mods but know there are things people can still do. I don't want to go all out with like spongeforge and nucleus/luckperms though. Utilities is probably enough

[flint egret]

👀

[rose bronze]

Potion of some kind of flight‽

[fiery jackal]

probably changes the visual on wings, if i had to guess

[rose bronze]

Hopefully everything in jei is craftable/obtainable. I didn't like that in mce1 there was a bunch of stuff most remembered tc stuff not being obtainable.

[pliant igloo]

This makes me wonder if there's a "moon gravity" potion, likely with a chunk of moon cheese as the catalyst. Who knows, maybe the potions in the screenshot are the potion I'm thinking of.

[unreal belfry]

🦀

[craggy socket]

permanent redbull potion maybe 😄

[silent imp]

It obviously makes your potion fly around like a fairy

[brave hound]

It says it right in the screenshot, the wings let you take 4 extra steps that's massive

[fallow plinth]

That just means that 4 steps are needed in order to create that potion

[rose bronze]

Nono, it means you can take 4 extra steps before your free trial of mce2 ends.

[ancient schooner]

New mce challenge mode: block/step limit.

The potion unlocks more, obviously

[fiery jackal]

You get 0 steps. Because reasons

[brave hound]

that's what The Man WANTS you to think

[fallow plinth]

@flint egret next event for MCE2 me versius Persius when?

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/boulder-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-26220277

[fallow plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/charizard-flamethrower-gif-19370768

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-the-last-airbender-avatar-atla-tloa-gif-14828041

[sand lake]

Or maybe a configuration where you can turn off uncraftables? (ex. Glass Sword (Twilight Forest))

:(

[vast ibex]

i wonder if you can get MC Eternal 2 on that Infinite Craft website

[stray galleon]

THE CONCH HAS SPOKEN

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-conch-gif-4612648

[tiny field]

why do you people keep asking for a release date ?? Why dont you ask like "how far along are you adam?" or "Adam could you tell us what you feel like is missing for a release to come". My mind is blowing here..

[sonic sail]

Can we get a snuggie addon ask instead of a release date addon?

[tawdry rapids]

i wonder how done is mce2

i guess like 80%

[viral swan]

i’d guess somewhere between 1% to 99.9%

that’s just my educated guess

[naive peak]

ROFLMAO

Love

❤️

You are funny lohkii

[pastel atlas]

Are you hurt?

[uncut chasm]

Alright I know it's been mentioned multiple times.. But I forget, what is the lighting pack that Adam is using again?

[ornate swallow]

if you mean the shaders, it should be oculus with complementary reimagined iirc

[uncut chasm]

Thank you

[vast ibex]

eh, unrealistic, i think it is between 0.01% to 0.99%

[silent imp]

I think its 100% done. Adam just doesnt want to release it yet

[fiery jackal]

we are making a list of people who dont get it, since they keep asking when is it coming out

[long finch]

The man runs on coffee, perhaps he needs more? If only there was an easy way to provide Adam with this... unless?

[brave hound]

What a stellar idea that is, a website where you can send the developers coffee money! Maybe in a world they could even have linked directly to their Discord accounts

[boreal grail]

nah that wont be enough, we gotta hook adam up with some cocaine

[fiery jackal]

if you want him to work faster, he needs speed

https://tenor.com/view/cars-lightning-mcqueen-speed-im-speed-i-am-speed-gif-25593042

[boreal grail]

put them both in a blender

[grizzled scaffold]

i hope mce2 has various illegal substances for players to consume recreationally

[fiery jackal]

I will call the MC police and sell you out

[grizzled scaffold]

snitches get stitches

[uncut chasm]

It's people like you that keep giving Adam ideas. Stop it.

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-to-stop-stop-clock-time-gif-5001372

[fervent cobalt]

sees latest image on the sneak peek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4kxlY2_nqo

[rose bronze]

There's a whole mod about this. Though probably won't happen for the age rating sadly. Though we did convince him to add in gambling 🤣

[white willow]

the gambling debate was fun

[rose bronze]

Just add in the psycadellics mod behind like 20 checkmarks and college level algebra quest

[digital yacht]

Verification of age and location since some substances are legal in different parts of the world. Then sell that info on the dark web to fund mce3

[rose bronze]

Big brain plays right there. He can buy so much speed off of stolen identies🤣 mce 3 and 4 gonna come out in the same year

[fiery jackal]

I say we bring the conversation away from drugs and talk about happier stuff. Like dogs and cats

[pliant igloo]

And dragons, since Ice and Fire will apparently be in MCE2.

[rose bronze]

Do we get the new lightning dragons?

[compact spruce]

yes, those were a 1.16 addition

[rose bronze]

That's good. Hopefully the spawnrate of them is turned down from mce1 by default.

[pliant igloo]

Maybe lightning dragonsteel ingots will be used to make lightning rods.

[digital yacht]

I remember dragons shreading my house in mce1 because they were right over the hill I didn't see lmao

[fiery jackal]

it builds character. There were multiple instances where i happened to build my house above a dragon nest

[digital yacht]

just for the lolz

[fiery jackal]

nope, wasnt on purpose. Just super unlucky

[wicked plover]

I built my base right on top of a dragon cave without knowing, one day it just went right through my base

That is also when I learned they can easily break blocks

[digital yacht]

my friend started hatching dragons under our base and didn't realize they just snap through the growth phases. I had an AE2 system that could auto craft almost 1/3rd of the items in the game and it got destroyed

ripped up almost 3 months worth of base work

[wicked plover]

Hahah I did not read this while writing, same thing happened to both of us

[wicked plover]

Yikes that is terrible yeah

[digital yacht]

the only time I have ever rolled back a server for someone making a dumb mistake

[wicked plover]

Still I am excited to have a functioning tamed dragon ai so that I can spend time with them

[wicked plover]

That is very much acceptable, it's a lot of progress

[wicked plover]

Hopefully it won't be as hard to kill dragons in mce2, it was a nightmare in mce

[digital yacht]

I ended up cheesing by getting the Evoker wand, hiding in a wall where they can't aggro on me, and just spamming it til they died

[wicked plover]

Even the level 4/5 ones?

[digital yacht]

yep

then used a vamp sword with 25% execute to finish them

[wicked plover]

Wow, pretty cool

[digital yacht]

there were definitely better ways but having nothing but the wand and vamp sword made those harder to achieve

[wicked plover]

Yeah probably, but there is just so much in the modpack

[fiery jackal]

i never rolled back. Show the dragon whos the boss

[wicked plover]

Minecolonies + ice and fire are the mods that I'm very excited about in mce2 due to their improved ai's, couldn't play them in mce1

[digital yacht]

I mean, I killed it but no way I was rebuilding that monstrosity again

[compact spruce]

something to note about dragons: as per the config, there's a certain radius around worldspawn where they cannot generate. it's a good idea to build a base close to worldspawn if you don't want to risk building near a dragon

[wicked plover]

That is good to know, though around the spawn isn't always desirable for a base, I can also take some time to scout the area

[fervent cobalt]

/gamemode 1

or 0, forgot which was witch atm

[fiery jackal]

but that can also make mob spawns and wither spawns not work, if you are too close to world spawn. So plan accordingly

[heady inlet]

Are there non Ice and Fire blocks that are dragon proof?

[flint egret]

Yeah I tagged a bunch of blocks to be dragon proof in mce2

Mostly things with 'blast proof' or 'reinforced' in the name

[heady inlet]

Praised be your work

[prisma atlas]

So uhh

ETA when?

🥺

👉👈

[compact spruce]

Never

[prisma atlas]

I’m like 92% sure it’s Opposite Day so you must mean soon

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[paper vessel]

What if MCE2 isnt a modpack but the time we spend together asking about eta

[digital yacht]

it's kept me entertained so mission accomplished

[upper merlin]

Some people fr have nothing to do but be impatient 😭

[prisma atlas]

Maybe the real modpack is the friends we made along the way

[heady inlet]

Nah, we just loved McE so much, that we all are way to hyped about getting a sequel

[slender yew]

I actually already played mce2

it was crazy

custom recipes customs mods
custom everything

mce is not even on minecraft anymore
its actaully in fortnite now

[fallow plinth]

I want to add that I would like for MCE2 something like an anything goes mode where stuff doesn't get nerfed or disabled over time. I feel like a lot of stuff has been disabled/tweaked over the years in MCE and it's a shame I didn't get to play around with the tomfoolery that some mods add. This way people can still choose whether they want to play the edited version or the original versions

[digital yacht]

there are kitchen sink packs out there that don't nerf pretty much anything

[sand lake]

it its that big a deal just remove the mod specific configs or play old versions before certain tweaks?

[pastel atlas]

Do you mean, if we give him more coffe, mce2 will be released sooner?

https://tenor.com/view/oop-take-my-money-gif-23438077

[paper vessel]

More coffee equals more energy, more energy equals more work done, more work done equals MCE2 sooner!!!!

[vast ibex]

but who can be sure that our donations will be used to buy coffee?

[sand lake]

the funds are immediately sent to Adam's many coffee distributers and the coffees are shipped within minutes

[tawdry rapids]

mce2 is hidden somewhere in this server.. first one to finds it keeps it..

[peak thicket]

I found it already :3

[tawdry rapids]

aw man

[paper vessel]

i found it before

[peak thicket]

I will have to send our elite Army of rats to chew up your computer

[paper vessel]

I already printed it out

[rose bronze]

All hail the birb overlord

[fallow plinth]

that honestly is a lot of work which is why I'm only giving a suggestion, I've seen people expressing their negative feelings for the latest MCE update and how many mobs became blacklisted for certain capturing tools. And I know you can never please everybody but some changes that were added in recent updates are questionable to me

[peak thicket]

More things to chew :3

[fallow plinth]

.

[paper vessel]

.

[sonic sail]

Better question. What kind of coffee does Adam enjoy

[rose bronze]

The kind with nose candy in it

[grizzled scaffold]

i hope theres sparkling water in mce2

[pliant igloo]

If Pam's Harvestcraft 2 is in the pack, there might be.

[digital yacht]

tv static water

[pale bolt]

Bru ive been waiting since the 9th grade for mce2… im abt to graduate soon… 😭😭😭

[white willow]

sparkling water tastes awful

[hard night]

Ur scared of the bubbels lol

[lethal rivet]

i would love some sneak peek of quests

[silent imp]

Do you mean more sneak peaks ? Cause Adam shared a bunch of them here in this thread if you want to check them out

[pastel atlas]

The only thing i complain is the lack of mob spawning, idk what caused this

[raven notch]

is there create in the mce2 ? did not look at the pack this far

[white willow]

*bubbles

minor spelling mistake. i win

[silent imp]

Yes

[raven notch]

Damn nice 🤩

Now 2027 can come !

[sand lake]

His coffee is just a little extra strong so it needs to go through.... importing.. processes

[fiery jackal]

@sinful laurel come see me suffer

[still lagoon]

Goat does not like to get pinged. Please do not ping him.

[sinful laurel]

don't ping me in this channel

[heady inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/he-needs-milk-he-needs-some-milk-stumble-gif-12383181

jk jk

wouldn't want to get on Goats bad side

[midnight rose]

Imagine you reply to his message with pings and call him bro in this channel will the sever implode?

[heady inlet]

I mean...who is stoping you?

[sterile quarry]

respect is stopping you

[pliant igloo]

Also self-preservation

[cunning marsh]

life's gonna be very rough if you're gonna try and respect everyone and their feelings etc, gonna have a long road ahead of you

[lethal rivet]

i can find only one with "challenges" 😄

[silent imp]

you can search on discord for messages from adam to see them

[teal pebble]

is that why you have "pronouns are f****** cringe" in your profile?

[flint egret]

It's actually incredibly easy to respect everyone

[flint egret]

You know what's more cringe? Verbs! /S

[sand lake]

adverbs....

[wide jacinth]

Idk man I think that past tense is scary

[ancient schooner]

Ah yes, past tents are scary

[grizzled scaffold]

I hope mce2 will have a welcoming atmosphere for people of all genders and sexuality

[sonic sail]

so just minecraft?

[sterile quarry]

i respect everyone and its not rough at all

[heady inlet]

You ever heard of ablative in latin? That keeps me up at night..actualy right now

[ancient schooner]

What

[heady inlet]

ablative case...a grammatical case for nouns, pronouns and adjectives...trying my best to use google translate here, cause I have no clue what this means in english, only in german

[rose bronze]

Not everyone deserves respect though. Some people need not nice things done to them.

[prisma atlas]

Remember to respect the rats because they sacrifice more than we’ll ever know 🐀 🧀

[novel willow]

It is a dirty grammar joke. You need to have studied latin to get it.

[teal pebble]

kind of a bad attitude to have. who are you to judge who does and doesn’t deserve respect?

[paper vessel]

By your own opinion I guess, do you respect everyone? I personally don't and I have reasons for that

[fiery jackal]

I mean. It's pretty normal to respect everyone till they give you a reason not to...

[silent imp]

I would say you should treat someone with respect regardless whether you respect them or not unless they give you a reason not to. I dont respect most people tbh but I still believe in treating them respectfully

[sterile quarry]

I hope mce2 also has the creative terminal as an unlockable

[chrome sinew]

I hope mce2 has Minecraft

[vast ibex]

i hope MCE2 is Eternal 🙏

[midnight rose]

I heard mce2 is finished 🤥

[vast ibex]

the modpack description has to clarify that the modpack is not eternal in order to avoid false advertisement lawsuits 👍

unless Adam adds a AI that self-generates content everytime you reach end-game

[boreal grail]

cant believe todds porting radiant quests to other games lmao

[digital yacht]

Insert Viva La Dirt League sketch about randomly generated quests

[sonic sail]

I heard that you die when death comes

[pliant igloo]

Not if you can beat him in a round of poker.

[boreal grail]

people die when they are killed...

[sonic sail]

Ah yes. The ultimate boss fight- BEAT DEATH AT A GAME OF POKER!

[unreal belfry]

🦀

[lethal rivet]

I'll stalk him a bit 😂

[tawdry rapids]

they should make a really big rat

[fiery birch]

If the vault hunter mod could be implemented that would be so amazing

[sterile quarry]

Isn’t that mod specifically made for one pack

And tailord mostly for it and it locked a lot of progression

[vast ibex]

me when i have to hunt a vault (i never played that modpack)

[sterile quarry]

It’s pretty good but the community wasn’t the nicest and thier official servers cost money to play on when they already make a lot from patron and could probaly do it for free on a lesser scale and let people in slowly and kick inactive people

I played on a server and got laughed at for dying

[vast ibex]

did you die to what?

[silent imp]

Yes was it a funny death ?

[sterile quarry]

I died because I ran out of time in a vault because I got lost

[silent imp]

Ah

[sterile quarry]

And they were pretty mean ngl

[digital yacht]

they were a bit harsh to me when I asked if I could raise the time limit on the vaults on my own personal server that I hosted for my friends only lol

[sterile quarry]

Yeah a good pack but a not nice community

[pastel atlas]

These vaults are fun?

[digital yacht]

they're fine. Grindy imo and the combat isn't especially challenging after a certain level. It becomes: run in, do objective, hunt for chests for 15 minutes, get out

different experience than MCE that is for sure

I like the open world packs better

[heady inlet]

I liked McE2 more, quests were dope and the custom stuff was unbelievable...can't wait for McE3

[polar dome]

I just woke up from my coma that begun on the 25th february of 2024. How is Mce5?

[heady inlet]

Yes

[wide jacinth]

It was great 👍 been waiting ages for mce6 though

[rose bronze]

People haven't bought enough coffee.

[paper vessel]

Maybe coffee ain't enough. We gotta start cooking

Would 97% purity be enough Adam?

Oh one thing if Adam catches this. When I played with 1.16.5 FTB chunks Minecraft charges were able to destroy stuff such as doors or chests. Dunno if it was modpack fault, tho if it got patched/ is known then I'm happy af

[vast ibex]

coffee 2 (the sequel)

(contains 200% more coffee per drop!)

[fiery jackal]

No heisinberg. We had a drug talk already and it was getting out of hand so I had to put a stop to it. Stick to legal drugs like 8 shots of espresso

[delicate mulch]

Adam posted MCE2 sneak peek #2 in June of 22. I literally got married and divorced since that date. I had a whole ass marriage come and go while waiting for this modpack.

[fallow plinth]

yooo

[rose bronze]

Since mce2s announcement, I've driven approximately 340k miles.

[grizzled scaffold]

woah, thats the distance to the sun and back, 3 times over!

[rose bronze]

That doesn't sound right

I've driven to the moon, about halfway back now.

[craggy socket]

Congratulations and condolences

[vast ibex]

ever since then, i uh? i made my steam account!

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

God dammit

[pliant igloo]

tsk tsk tsk
https://wearedrum.com/themes/drum/assets/images/error.gif

[silent imp]

Do you think mce2 would have saved your marriage?

[topaz barn]

what if mce2 isn't about the modpack, but the friends we made on the way!

I love you all

[vast ibex]

[heady inlet]

What if this channel is McE2?

[fiery jackal]

What if mce2 is the friends we made along the way

[fallow plinth]

or the competitors...?

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/gotosleep-or-iwill-putyou-tosleep-happygilmore-gif-19955735

[fallow plinth]

can I get a goodnight kiss? 😏

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-face-gif-18202319

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-very-much-gif-7054867177513773657

[fallow plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/wilmarie-nikki-bgc-bad-girls-club-hit-gif-5271145

[fiery jackal]

too late you lost already

[heady inlet]

What if McE2 is the One Piece and Adam wants to start the next great pirate era?

[paper vessel]

What if

[heady inlet]

then I would need to gather a crew and get myself a boat

[fiery jackal]

If that's the case. I'm luffy and @fallow plinth will be buggy the clown

[heady inlet]

But that scenario would require Adams exeqution sooo maybe let's not do that

[fiery jackal]

Alleged execution. He can fake it and retire somewhere

[heady inlet]

Like the Black Cat Captain huh...hasn't worked to great for him

[fallow plinth]

both these roles would fit you like a glove tbh

[fiery jackal]

And who would you be? 🤔

I veto Nami and Robin

[sonic sail]

I claim pandaman

[fiery jackal]

i dont know you well enough to dispute you being Bartholomew Kuma.... Depending on how you answer this question will determine how i feel. Would you slap Heather Snad if you had the chance?

[fallow plinth]

honey you give both it and ronald mcdonald a run for their money

[sonic sail]

no no

the randomly appearing background pandaman

[fiery jackal]

him? https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Bepo

[sonic sail]

thats a polar bear

this guy

[fiery jackal]

i do not know that one...

whos that?

[sonic sail]

hes the panda guy that you can see every now and then in the background

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/voidstiles-void-jealous-gif-12696410

[sonic sail]

thats the best description i can give you

[fallow plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/tiffany-pollard-you-can-be-the-judge-of-it-turning-arguing-gif-16409413

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/fluffy-gabe-iglesias-gabriel-iglesias-i-dont-wanna-dont-wanna-gif-17563254

[heady inlet]

How does one not know about Panda Man??? @fiery jackal

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-thankyou-simple-gif-18234665

[heady inlet]

are you anime only?

[brazen mortar]

https://modrinth.com/mod/the-first-city how cool would this be for a boss fight quest

[sonic sail]

pandaman is in the anime

[fiery jackal]

Pandaman isn't real. He can't hurt you

[uncut chasm]

too bad that mod literally can't have any other mod with it.

[sonic sail]

https://tenor.com/view/vinci-art-panda-italie-vitruve-gif-16480289

[uncut chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-crying-comforting-watching-movie-gif-17333548

[sonic sail]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[uncut chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-commentary-lets-go-strategy-gif-13609518

[boreal grail]

mce2 is the holy grail, and we are all monty pythons funky lil knights

and if were lucky, we wont all get arrested at the end of the movie!

[vast ibex]

🙏

[undone forge]

Dodgeball reference always good xdd

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-knights-who-say-ni-ni-gif-12279570

[sonic sail]

will we killer rabbit natural spawns?

[fiery jackal]

just carry a holy hand grenade. You will be fine

[sonic sail]

true

[sand lake]

Buzz buzz

[fiery jackal]

sorry we do not promote AI art here

[brave hound]

Poor thing tried. Some bees have 3 wings, golden star to EEERNAL

[ancient schooner]

(Go draw it yourself to manifest mc beeternal 2)

[sonic sail]

MC Eternal 2: into the beeverse

[sinful laurel]

As Persius said - We don't like nor promote AI images.

[sand lake]

Why?

[silver oriole]

A rare W goat moment

[sand lake]

Well…. By definition, it is art. I thought it was pretty clear… that it was being posted as a meme… a very obviously computer generated meme type image, with the purpose of just putting bees out there, consistently, randomly, for fun, because I love my bees and forestry in general, and I have expressed that before. Responding to someone trying to pass algorithm generated media off as their own creation by completely disallowing any form of said media is very extreme… It’s an evolving technology that is only going to become more prevalent in our world… People steal art daily, should we just ban art? I feel like a more appropriate response would’ve been to ask users to include a disclaimer for any media generated by an algorithm.. No rule is going to stop someone from trying to make themselves look good by lying.

[brave hound]

Using 'people steal art daily' as an excuse to allow a computer to steal art is pretty dazing, I gotta be honest

Art is subjective, that we're all aware of and is important, but AI generation tends to take the, you know, people aspect out of expressing art? Blatant algorithmic theft aside there's little to be gained, internally (through self-reflection and expression) or externally (through honing a craft) in typing a bunch of keywords into a databank and ogling at the nigh-surrealist result.

I like bees too. It'd make my and maybe many of the rest of us's day if you drew one for us?

Even if I'm wrong about all the rest of that anyway, it's the server rule, not a ban on art. Just follow it 🤷

[white willow]

oh cool an AI "art" argument

[sand lake]

It wasn’t an excuse to allow a “ computer to steal art….” (Which is physically impossible by the way, they aren’t sentient, blame the humans that allowed the algorithm to be trained with other peoples creations without their permission) The point is that people that try and lie about those things are going to do it regardless, with someone else’s actual art or computer generated… Computer generated media is a technology, a very powerful and useful one, also a very fun one to play with, your opinion of it lacking a human touch is irrelevant. The point is that an entire field of technology should not be banned because someone used it to try and look cool. If you think a terribly generated image of Minecraft bees is an attempt at trying come off as a better artist than you, that’s your own interpersonal issue.

[brave hound]

Minecraft servers man, scrambles the brain

[sand lake]

I wish I could play Minecraft. It’s been over a year, after the last MCE1 nuclear ending I swore to my left foot I wouldn’t play until MCE2… I tried breaking that swear but got bored, my soul craves a new and exciting adventure… that involves… bees

And that special little combination of mods and quest making that is whoever is all behind the eternal stuff, hard to find mod packs that tick all the mod boxes so well

[sinful laurel]

You can't put in a prompt to an AI and afterwards say "I made this"
You didn't. You may have written the prompt or used Photoshop to "touch up" on what the AI have created.
don't get me wrong - there are images that are generated with AI that can look great / cool / amazing - but it's still AI, and we're of the preference of not sharing AI art / content on the server.
No it's not a written rule, no it will not be a written rule. It's a preference, not a written rule.
If you are wondering why the image isn't in this channel anymore, it's because I deleted it.
We have, as stated in the screenshit Persius provided, had incidents of people claiming it was their art.
As you stated yourself, it's algorithm that has been trained with other peoples content without their consent - that's the key factor here.
I don't personally give a shit if you've drawn inspiration from other creators (that's what everyone is doing anyway - draw inspiration) - But "AI art" is not art - it's a machine generated image.
You can argue for the fact that art comes in many forms, which I will agree on, but AI generated images is not art, and it's not something we want here. Neither is AI generated copy paste memes.
You're not in troubles, I'm just explaining why we don't want it around here.

[ornate swallow]

real

[sand lake]

I’m not sure if it’s the way you’re communicating or the assumptions being made, but I said buzz buzz lol. Again, if I use that tool to express a vision in my mind, it is art by definition, so all of that is your opinion, and I understand where you are coming from. I am not an artist, never have been, I’m just having fun, this is a community for a Minecraft mod pack, didn’t think it was that damn serious.

[sterile quarry]

People who call them selves artists for using solely ai are the same people who call them selves chefs for using a microwave and only a microwave

[sinful laurel]

Let's not have nonstaff go into a debate here

[sterile quarry]

I was not responding to them I was responding to the clown image

I didn’t even read thier message until now lol

[sand lake]

I genuinely hope there aren’t people calling themselves AI artists… not only for the obvious but also using a marketing term in a professional title is hilarious, because it’s not AI or even close. Those poor parents.

I can’t draw anyone a bee but I can build a physical bee temple if it gets bees in the pack, if they aren’t already….

[sinful laurel]

And that's my queue to leave again, I don't want spoilers for mce2

[brave hound]

There are tons, though I do think it might be a 'loud minority' situation, at least from what I've seen it doesn't seem to be a super popular thought. And for what's it worth, I wasn't calling you one, it's a touchy subject

[sand lake]

I consider my rigging an art form… no computer is taking that from me

[tawdry rapids]

lol 💀

[small marsh]

I pop in here once a month to see how we are doing. No changes it seems in terms of when release

[compact spruce]

i mean, yeah, that won't change until it releases

[unreal belfry]

🦀

[silent imp]

🦀 ?

[sonic sail]

The release date is when it gets releases

[vast ibex]

i just pop here to say random stuff completely unrelated

just like now ^

just like now again ^

and again ^

[nimble sorrel]

I swear half of the new mods / packs I see on curseforge have just AI written descriptions for the copy, it gives me the ick

[viral swan]

what has happened to sneak peek discussion, i feel like there are debates every other day :(

i just like seeing the updates man D:

[silver oriole]

Shhhh 🦀

Enjoy crab

[fiery jackal]

shhhhh crab only

https://tenor.com/view/crab-dancing-crab-party-rave-cool-moves-gif-15701153

[viral swan]

at least i have crab

[unreal belfry]

🦀

[ancient schooner]

[flint egret]

mce2 is cancelled - we are blehg now

[silver oriole]

Blehg

🦀🦀🦀

[flint egret]

quest sneak peek :>

[silver oriole]

I heard quest

[midnight rose]

Im a day 1 luggage hater

[sterile quarry]

rename the server to that on april fools

[ancient schooner]

I love him so much

[craggy socket]

burn it with fire

[flint egret]

i had no idea people hated luggage lmao

[silent imp]

He can be annoying sometimes eating your items when you really dont want him to.

Like when you accidentally break something in your base he runs in and swipes it and then walks around and you have to chase him to get it then sometimes you accidentally pick him up instead then you place him down he runs around again you try and open him but fail cause you are holding something in your off hand then he runs around again and you gotta chase him

He can be a bit much

[vast ibex]

chest crab 🦀

i do not hate luggage because i didn't even use it anyway

(he reminds me of that chest dog from don't starve)

[pliant igloo]

Otto von Chesterfield, Esquire

[ancient schooner]

I just want him for massive excavation projects

[uncut chasm]

slap a Chester png onto it and people will love it, despite the headache it sometimes brings. But truthfully I normally just leave it at my base as a pet more than anything else.

[vast ibex]

"chester chesty chestor chestur" - me (2024-2024)

[fiery jackal]

can he have a little hat?

[grizzled scaffold]

i gotchu

[fiery jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-gif-9137551

[nimble sorrel]

Enhance!

[undone forge]

Fr fr. Luggage is the #2 good boi after Askeladdens pet rock.

[white willow]

he is going straight into the mob grinder

[novel willow]

Does Luggage still do that thing where he just vanishes when u tp or die?

I remember losing him several times

Or is it her?

[bold forge]

the silly box creature probably does not care what pronouns you use for it

[brazen mortar]

Always preferred the danknull or backpack to anything following me around. I like to build and thinks like that just get in the way and don’t have big enough inventory to justify it

[frosty scaffold]

The luggage is a fun reference and a novelty but not much else. There are far more useful, and reliable, items for portable storage.

GNU Terry Pratchett!

[tawdry rapids]

mce2

thats the game

[silver oriole]

Know what

No crab for you

[tawdry rapids]

i didnt even want it anyways....

[silver oriole]

[silent imp]

🦀

[vast ibex]

having crab is a human right, you cant just take it away!

[sand lake]

the mysterious block shaped figure in my dreams last night told me to create this, they said it was important

[heady inlet]

Luggage Item Dupe exploit incoming or are you guys aware of it and already prevented that?

[flint egret]

the mod is rewritten for modern versions, is it an old exploit? or from the modern mod?

[heady inlet]

i think it was a 1.12.2 exploit. Capture the luggage (with items you want to dupe in it) with a safari net or whatever it was called and put it in a mob duplicator form industrial foregoing IF I remember correctly

Haven't played any newer versions so I honestly don't know...always one of the first exploits I test and then disable on my servers

[bold forge]

that sounds like it only works when Exact Copy is available

so that will probably not work in 1.16+, and doesn't work by default on 1.12

[heady inlet]

good :))

[vast ibex]

no exploit is good for balance but bad because no 😞

[undone forge]

Crab

[grizzled scaffold]

barC

[pliant igloo]

https://makeagif.com/i/cHN3Eg
?

[silent imp]

🦀

[flint egret]

your feedback is kindly requested:

heavy spoilers below ⤵️
||in modded minecraft you rarely lose your position thanks to fancy maps like journey maps and xaeros with their waypoints and world map mechanics, there is a lot of qol features available instantly.

i had the idea to lock the minimap behind a few quests that require a little bit of effort but nothing that can't be done in the first 30 minutes of playing.
reason? encourages exploration, you might even get lost! which is fun :>

now there is reason early game to make a compass and lodestone (which now costs a block of raw iron instead of netherite) or build big dirt spires to remember where you are etc etc (or just look at coordinates if you are a massive nerd)

you need an item called the magic map to unlock both the world map and the mini map. it is all explained in detail in the quest book.

this is the current progression i have carved out, the image was made in mspaint because i am lazy.

note: the inkwell can be found in many structures including modded ones so you can find it by exploring, or simply purchase it from the quest shop. ||

thoughts?

[silver oriole]

Not a bad feature ngl

[pliant igloo]

Will the areas we've explored still be available once the maps are unlocked?

[flint egret]

yep

and deathpoints

the map is there, just not accessible so all the data is still being added to the map

[pliant igloo]

That's tolerable, though I'd absolutely avoid the Twilight Forest until they're unlocked. Way to easy to lose track of your portal home there.

[silent imp]

Minimap has always felt powerful I'd def like to feel like I deserved it through my own work so this is a nice idea

[flint egret]

yeah and its still an adventure to get it even if its not entirely difficult. you need to mine for iron, find a village and find the inkwell or buy it. hopefully it will give you a feeling of accomplishment when you unlock it

[silent imp]

Yea I like it I wouldnt mind if it took more than this to make it more of an event like beating a boss or something

[bold forge]

a more difficult packmode is in the plans, so it will probably be much more difficult to get in that

[cobalt monolith]

if there is a starting quest page like most modpacka have, add one quest with no rewards that explain that you're not crazy there is no map and you should see quest #xx for more info

Also I love the idea for one particular reason that when you spawn it you don't see 50 structures at once,, go there and get 5 stacks of iron and loot from the chests

[flint egret]

i have a fancier solution to let the player know why they don't have a map

not going to reveal that though

[chrome holly]

I like the effort required to unlock the map. Not too hard, but a satisfying accomplishment

[digital yacht]

As someone who is always looking for ways to stretch the early game and encourage real exploration, I like this feature. What always happens in my games is one player finds cheap flight, flies to every structure they find and get a mega boost to their resources and then jump start the industrial revolution

[fallow plinth]

loves it, they did something similar with sev tech where you'd unlock the antique atlas in the first chapter and journeymap much later. We are so used to implemented maps that it'd be a nice change to actually work for a feature that seems so basic nowadays

[undone forge]

🦀🦀🦀

[paper vessel]

More to that I'd even be interested in making satellite to make map work worldwide. Ad astra would make a huge play to that. Before Ad astra we would have map encoder which would demand us to store maps to unlock certain sections of the mini map

Dunno if this sounds like a pain but defo a new interesting way to play

Note: Satellite would work in all dimensions

[craggy socket]

not my favorite thing. I've always found lack of a map discouraging to exploration. Once you find a location you like, you're far more likely to lose it if you travel around without a map, which generally results in very tedious gameplay such as frequent pauses when traveling to build direction indicators, or restricting movement to a very strict single direction block line - needed both to find your way back home and to find your way to your body if you die while exploring. having that be a thing AND requiring travel for unlocking elements basically means it becomes the very first task and nothing else in the game can really begin until it's been unlocked.

[paper vessel]

Why pauses all you need is coordinates

Death messages would provide that as well I guess. If there's corail tombstone then it's even easier