#Suggestion to Channels descriptions

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tight phoenix
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Moved from #server-support to here, more appropriate

tight phoenix
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I think this idea could be very good, like what you do in #creations-discussions but for all channels

fresh wigeon
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will bring it up (i might forget)

tight phoenix
tight phoenix
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I removed my pins of the channels as I thought it was a bit intrusive considering I'm not staff nor announcer anymore, sorry guys

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But proper staff can make them again

tight phoenix
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For example, for #pvz-chinese-games i was thinking

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#pvz-chinese-games Guidelines:

  • #1164920420617703424 is where you can download Chinese PvZ games and other content related to them.
  • https://discord.com/channels/638039933457793025/1121484252454846484 is a thread where you can upload your Creative Courtyard levels!
  • #pvz-cn-announcements is where you can receive news about the current official games!
  • #pvz-datamining-discussions is where you can discuss datamined content, leaks and the like.
  • #pvz-mods-discussion is for Chinese PvZ mods discussions.
  • #pvz-misc-fangames is for Chinese PvZ miscellaneous content (check the channel) discussions.
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and so with every channel where they would have their own guidelines

tight phoenix
tight phoenix
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(Flag don't kill me please)

hazy jacinth
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That sounds like a good idea to me. I think people often ignore channel descriptions AND pins about equally, so choosing the option that's more clear (pins) seems great.

tight phoenix
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They ignore everything indeed but my idea is mostly so channel descriptions doesn't get saturated

hazy jacinth
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We can already do it for the chinese channel to try. That channel's description is already short.

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The only problem I can see with this is that, if we pin another message, then the guidelines will be further down the list of pins.

tight phoenix
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Oh, right

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I mean is that much of a problem?

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People will have to ohhhhhh scroll

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(scary)

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Unless you maintain that guideline always at the top

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Pinning anything and then the guideline

hazy jacinth
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I could do that. For the chinese channel, it's mainly just the weekly gacha and happy vasebreaker that are pinned regularly.

tight phoenix
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If it's not much a problem, ofc

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:>

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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About the other channels, they can follow a similar thing

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But that's up to the rest of the staff willing to do this

hazy jacinth
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aaannnnddd of course I do not have perms to modify the chinese channel, but I can do some of the others for some reason?? I don't get it.

tight phoenix
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brahhhh

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Tell them to recheck your perms

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You're an owner ffs

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😭

hazy jacinth
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Legit, the gear icon to modify the channel does not appear for #pvz-chinese-games, but for most of them it does.

tight phoenix
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Could you ask to give yourself the Admin role and try with that

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If that doesn't help yeah you should ask them to recheck that

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Lazy ass staff...

hazy jacinth
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I just checked to see and giving myself Admin does allow me to modify the other channels, but I don't know if I'm allowed to, I'll ask the others.

tight phoenix
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I mean, you're supposed to have that role

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But still

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This server perms are a nightmare

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It's like 2C mlem

hazy jacinth
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I asked, we'll see if anyone responds to me

fresh wigeon
hazy jacinth
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Well there's clearly something preventing me from modifing some specific channels.

tight phoenix
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The messy perms

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But yeah gofinda is right

hazy jacinth
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But then why did giving myself Admin work??

fresh wigeon
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only general is off limits for obvious reasons

tight phoenix
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🤷‍♂️

tight phoenix
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When I was staff

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No one listened

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Anyways

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You could always give yourself the role, make the change and remove the role

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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What is the general consensus of this suggestion first

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Do others approve this

hazy jacinth
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I don't know it got ignored

tight phoenix
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Ah...

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It's not an urgent suggestion

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It can be done little by little

hazy jacinth
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I changed the description for #pvz-chinese-games

tight phoenix
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I started with pvz chinese chat and pinged you because you're active here the most

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and I know you

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and you're an Owner

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hehe you're an Owner Flag

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!!?

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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Anything to change?

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I mean since you will pin it you can adjust it to the circumstances in the future

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:>

hazy jacinth
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I think "share" is better than "upload" for the Creative Yard levels

tight phoenix
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Oh ok!

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Good point

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To highlight the thread I copy the thread link

hazy jacinth
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Message has been pinned

tight phoenix
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yey

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Thank you Flag

hazy jacinth
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You're welcome duckstare

tight phoenix
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Take care of it please

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If there are changes that concern those rules change them and such

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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#pvz-3 Guidelines:

  • #1164920420617703424 is where you can download the game.
  • #pvz-announcements is where you can receive news about the game!
  • #pvz-datamining-discussions is where you can discuss datamined content, leaks and the like.
  • #pvz-misc-fangames is for PvZ miscellaneous content (check the channel) discussions.
    EA Links:
  • Feedback, support, report, discussions in general about the game: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Plants-vs-Zombies-3/ct-p/plants-vs-zombies-3
  • Require support about the game: https://help.ea.com/
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Made one for #pvz-3

hazy jacinth
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Added thumb

clear cragBOT
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I love u flag ducklove

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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Oh the Answer link is wrong

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There, if you can replace it

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It's missing the "-en" at the end xd

hazy jacinth
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Fixed

tight phoenix
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Thank you!

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I will make one for #pvz1-pvz2 later today or tomorrow

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btw Flag I think I expressed myself badly but the channels can have a minimum description like "Chat for PvZ3, check pins for guidelines"

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Let's say what the channel is for it goes in the description, everything else can go in pins

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Sorry if I wasn't clear

hazy jacinth
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Oh I see

tight phoenix
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You understand?

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It would be weird if the description was just "check pins for guidelines"

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😅

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Same with #pvz-chinese-games, it could be something like "Chat for Chinese Plants vs Zombies games, check pins for guidelines"

hazy jacinth
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I'm one step ahead of you

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also I fixed the permissions for that channel so now I have access to it

tight phoenix
hazy jacinth
hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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Oh actually #pvz-heroes one could be similar

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#pvz-heroes Guidelines:

  • #1164920420617703424 is where you can download the game.
  • #pvz-announcements is where you can receive news about the game!
  • #pvz-datamining-discussions is where you can discuss datamined content, leaks and the like.
  • #pvz-misc-fangames is for PvZ miscellaneous content (check the channel) discussions.
    EA Links:
  • Feedback, support, report, discussions in general about the game: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Other-Plants-vs-Zombies-Games/bd-p/PvZ
  • Require support about the game: https://help.ea.com/
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There, I only had to change the answer link

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and ofc the channel which the guideline is for

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PvZ Heroes, Shooters and PvZ 1 don't have a separated category for them, it's just "Other Plants vs Zombies Games" lol

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Only PvZ2 and 3 have one

hazy jacinth
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Done as well

tight phoenix
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The season thing in the channel description idk if it It has to go, Healena used to update it with the seasons of the game but she doesn't do it anymore

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So it's outdated

hazy jacinth
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I don't know when the seasons resets and I don't think it's really necessary.

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Actually, I can just copy the dates from the Heroes server zombiethonk

tight phoenix
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I mean you will have to update every time tho

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I don't know how seasons work on Heroes

hazy jacinth
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They just end every few months

tight phoenix
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#pvz1-pvz2 Guidelines:

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The channel desc could be "Chat for Plants vs Zombies 1 and 2, check pins for guidelines"

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Since that chat only cover PvZ1 and 2

hazy jacinth
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Done duckstare

tight phoenix
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I didn't put the Chinese chat in those guidelines because the name of the channel is self explanatory

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or at least that's how I see it

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#pvz-chinese-games is the Chinese counterpart of #pvz1-pvz2 and #pvz-3

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and thank you Flag, again!

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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Right?

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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For #pvz-datamining-discussions I was thinking
"For datamining and leaks about official PvZ Games (betas, upcoming content, updates, etc). Check pins for guidelines." as the channel description and for the pins

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#pvz-datamining-discussions guidelines:

  • Datamining mods, fake content are forbidden.
  • Gameplay discussion belongs to the respective channels.
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and when you pin it Shero's message will appear under this so everything will be tidy hehe

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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#pvz-misc-fangames could be "Channel dedicated to PvZ offshoots (e.g. PvZ-Match), Fangames and related, PvZ Comics, PvZ Plushies and some other topics of community related stuff/videos. Check pins for download links and guidelines."
and the pins be
#pvz-misc-fangames Guidelines:

  • If you want more fangames check #1164920420617703424.
  • Mods discussion (such as PvZ1 Hybrid and PvZ2 Mods) goes to #pvz-mods-discussion.
  • Advertisement is not allowed, except fangames and plushies.
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Today I'm inspired

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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As always, this is subject to change if staff decides to change them or if a point gets added/deleted

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Oh yeah I forgot

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  • Discussions about official plants vs zombies games goes in their respective channel.
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idk if it's "in" or "on"

hazy jacinth
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Isn't it "go"

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Discussions about official plants vs zombies games go in their respective channel.

tight phoenix
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Ah, I'm kinda silly

tight phoenix
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Another point could be

  • PvZ1 Fusion is a Fangame, so it's correct to use this channel.
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As Hybrid and Fusion get confused a lot

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Fusion is a Fangame and Hybrid is a mod

hazy jacinth
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Aight

tight phoenix
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Sorry if I'm bothering you Flag you don't have to do it right away

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and thanks

hazy jacinth
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No no it's all good, this is pretty simple stuff YooHooHoo

tight phoenix
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#gw1-gw2-bfn is next and that should be all, for now

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#gw1-gw2-bfn Guidelines:

  • #1164920420617703424 is where you can download the games.
  • #pvz-announcements is where you can receive news about the games!
  • #pvz-datamining-discussions is where you can discuss datamined content, leaks and the like.
  • #pvz-misc-fangames is for PvZ miscellaneous content (check the channel) discussions.
    EA Links:
  • Feedback, support, report, discussions in general about the games: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Other-Plants-vs-Zombies-Games/bd-p/PvZ
  • Require support about the games: https://help.ea.com/
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The channel desc can be left like it is right now adding "Check pins for guidelines" at the end

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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We carried

tight phoenix
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@jagged trellis since you have pins in #pvz-mods-discussion maybe you can make one saying that Fusion is a fangame and should be discussed in #pvz-misc-fangames

tight phoenix
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Check this thread for context

tight phoenix
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You need to organize the pins there too lol the download links there with #1178308476297035888 existing and such

tight phoenix
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#ignored

tight phoenix
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Flag

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Could you add this note at the end of the pins in #pvz1-pvz2 and #pvz-3

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Note: this doesn't include Chinese games, fangames and mods!

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So people don't use EA links for that lol

hazy jacinth
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Done

tight phoenix
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Thanks u

hazy jacinth
tight phoenix
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Are there any other channels you think need guidelines, Flag?

tight phoenix
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in the #pvz-misc-fangames pins the "if you want more fangames check #1164920420617703424" replace "fangames" with just "games" to consider pvz match too

hazy jacinth
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Done

tight phoenix
tight phoenix
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Hmm

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Maybe the mods part can be more generalized and just say "If you want to talk about mods, PvZ2 modding, check PvZ-Modded category!"

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So it makes them aware of the other channels

tight phoenix
tight phoenix
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@hazy jacinth bigpoo

hazy jacinth
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Hum?

hazy jacinth
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So replacing "#pvz-mods-discussion is for mods discussion about the games." with "If you want to talk about mods/PvZ2 modding, check PvZ-Modded category!"

tight phoenix
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Yeah, what do you think, would make people see the other channels

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As the whole category is for pvz2 mods except #pvz-mods-discussion which is for any mods

hazy jacinth
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Sure

tight phoenix
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and I asked you if there's another channel that could use a guideline

hazy jacinth
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Hum, I don't think so

tight phoenix
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Aight

clear cragBOT
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I made one for #addendum-discussions
The desc could be "Chat for the PvZ2 mod: Addendum"
and the guidelines could be:

  • If you want to receive news about the mod, check #addendum-announcements
  • If you want to be pinged for news, check

React here if you would like to be pinged for future polls, which are exclusive to Addendum and its design decisions, small updates and potential teasers.

Jump

[Go to message!](#addendum-announcements message)

tight phoenix
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@stark hearth bigpoo

tight phoenix
stark hearth
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ok

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give me a bit i'm busy rn

tight phoenix
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I forgot the "Check pins for guidelines" at the end of the desc

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What do you think tho

tight phoenix
tight phoenix
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Hmm

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Flag

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I was thinking that #pvz1-pvz2, #pvz-chinese-games and #pvz-3 could use "Official" in their descriptions

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So people don't try to put mods and fangames there

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I don't know why I didn't think of it before bigpoo

hazy jacinth
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Where would the word go?

tight phoenix
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The way descriptions are I guess before the game/s tittle?

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Official Chinese Plants vs Zombies...
Official Plants vs Zombies...

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Fortunely shooters and heroes doesn't need this

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At least that's what I think

hazy jacinth
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Done

tight phoenix
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bigpoo 👍

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Do you think they need them

hazy jacinth
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I don't see why not

tight phoenix
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Aight

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I think that would make it clear that they are channels for official games without a doubt

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What is #1277790562812166246 supposed to be

hazy jacinth
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No idea

tight phoenix
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Ah

tight phoenix
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So

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I was thinking

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What if PvZ1 Fusion, even if it is a fangame, could be discussed in #pvz-mods-discussion

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To avoid fuss because I see people get so confused on which channel to use

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It would not be correct but it would be convenient for the organization

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🤷‍♂️

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Some don't know it's a fangame lol

tight phoenix
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@spare surge What do you think about this idea in particular, I'm sorry for pinging you again but you know best

tight phoenix
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This wouldn't be a problem if both channels were the ones merged together instead of misc

spare surge
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Just merge fangames with mods channel

tight phoenix
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They don't want to

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😦

modern summit
tight phoenix
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But it is a recurring problem lately

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People is not well informed about the situation

modern summit
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People still ask about shooters in Chinese games every now and then.

tight phoenix
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I didn't see that...

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Hybrid thank god is a mod and doesn't cause problems but Fusion oh god...

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Ban the discussion of it entirely

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(jk)

modern summit
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Even worse, we’re approaching a point where fangames look identical to vanilla games.

tight phoenix
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Luckily you can tell Gardendless is still a fangame with that UI

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😭

tight phoenix
hazy jacinth
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Done duckstare

tight phoenix
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Thanks duckstare 👍

tight phoenix
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😦

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Help bestie what are you cooking

jagged trellis
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While I understand the sentiment, I believe there not to be a need to specifically explain that fusion is a fangame for a channel description. There have been fan games in the past and there will be games in the future that replicate pvz1 to a T. Nor have I or the Modding Staff experienced constant misuse of the channel due to fusion release except for just tiny reminders ever so often for new people in the modding scene.

tight phoenix
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Alright!

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Thank you bestie

tight phoenix
modern summit
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I won’t say no way, but I can’t come up with one.

tight phoenix
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I don't know if it is a problem with the server or a problem with the fangame

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I mean I guess like Benny said, there's not much misusing of the channels to really care about it

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yet

tight phoenix
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@hazy jacinth

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Is it clear that it's related to self advertisement, because otherwise people wouldn't be able to post any sort of media there lol

hazy jacinth
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Well, self advertisement isn't allowed overall, so I don't see why we need to specify it for that particular channel

tight phoenix
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Remove it then

hazy jacinth
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Done

tight phoenix
hazy jacinth
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Yeah, I never check that channel

tight phoenix
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I don't know the advertising reach that channel has

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@stark hearth Shero do you maybe know

stark hearth
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Important posts can advertise anything except discord invites

tight phoenix
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#important-posts advertisement reaching

stark hearth
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What does that mean

tight phoenix
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How much and what you can advertise there

tight phoenix
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Alright

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Thank you

tight phoenix
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Since I suggested the guidelines on pins I have seen less confusion among people finesun

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There are always those who don't read anything but most do read lol

tight phoenix
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Hmm

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Flag, should we put a new item in #pvz-3 guidelines that discussion about 3C should be in #pvz-chinese-games ?

tight phoenix
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Well, it could be made just in case?

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For organization

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@hazy jacinth

tight phoenix
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nvm idk

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Indecisive right now