Poprox weird thingy channel

[sharp dew]

cr touch isntead of z limit switch

glass instead of pc steel buildplate

[dawn lily]

if it doesn't work even when I rebuild

I will absolutely return this

and buy the neo

then I will rebuild the neo of course

because as you said factory assebly is

[sharp dew]

its funny, cuz i buy amazon returned enders

[dawn lily]

💩

[sharp dew]

yours might be on my bench one day

[dawn lily]

ah, I didn't buy on amazon

[sharp dew]

ok

[dawn lily]

I think the best way to explain is if you just look on this site

https://www.alza.cz/

it's just an online shop with everything

gotta walk only a few km to get the stuff

[sharp dew]

ok

[dawn lily]

they are also very very lenient on returns

I kinda returned a bricked e scooter

and they accepted it

somehow

flash bricked

okay so

the print ended up even worse

my sanity is getting to a bad level

[sharp dew]

yea fuck that printer

you really tried

[dawn lily]

trying for a week now

I have time till tuesday to be able to just return it

not even warranty

just return it without reason

(love my country for that, it's a law)

[sharp dew]

great

yeet it

[dawn lily]

and they wil just return you all the money in 2 or 3 days

hey actually

we didn't try one thing

[sharp dew]

yea?

[dawn lily]

before full rebuild

original firmware

[sharp dew]

oh sure

cr touch 4.2.2 gd chipset?

[sharp dew]

sure

wait

is your chip ST32 or GD32

and that doesn't ahve cr touch

[dawn lily]

GD

[sharp dew]

do NOT use that firmware

[dawn lily]

I don't have bl touch

[sharp dew]

ok

[dawn lily]

or cr touch

[sharp dew]

ok

you need the one with GD in the name

[dawn lily]

ah yeah forgot

got it

[sharp dew]

its a bricked printer error

ok

[dawn lily]

this fw looks so innocent lol

so empty

actually I have started the printer once with that firmware before when I was reinstalling today

it did look broken but it did look like the original one lol

now it looks normal

wait

is it possible I had the wrong firmware then?

are those made for GD?

[sharp dew]

nah but gd32 can be screwy sometimes

thats the right one

[dawn lily]

oaky

print number who knows

testing

hey

I just hear the fan go off

the height is currently

0.8

I just thought to check when the fan turned off, just out of curiosity

it wasn't 0.4

it was 0.8

gonna do it manually then

at the second layer

oh you have it set to gradually speed up I see

fuck itt

I'm rebuilding this shit

but I really need to find a guide

and I don't mean build guide

I mean complete super detail guide that goes deeper than just build guids

but factory rebuild guide basically

[sharp dew]

yea

https://youtu.be/me8Qrwh907Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABpGXcy-cuI

these two

watch both

they're the best

[dawn lily]

done

already senyt me this a while ago haha

well

gonna go dismantle everything

to factory defaults basically

I just found something

1

it's rotated like hell as we can see

2

the fan duct is literally not aiming at it

[sharp dew]

well i don't know if that is normal or not

the rotation, sure

the hotend in that printer isn't the best

but the pointing

not sure

[dawn lily]

I pressed on it real hard and heard a click and it moved it a little closer

but I don't think it's still close enough

I will look into it before instlaling it

[dawn lily]

wait this should be aligned?

@sharp dew

I do have the z axis rod to a side

so I just pushed it in

thought it was normal

[sharp dew]

what aligned?

[dawn lily]

the z axis rod

so it's just centered

I just managed to the whole x axis rod together

to find out I put the extruder the other way around

[sharp dew]

oh thats a fun way of doing it

better fix it tho

[dawn lily]

yep

[dawn lily]

I'm returning this shit :)

@sharp dew

[sharp dew]

YEET IT

[dawn lily]

I have no idea how the fuck did they manage to get me a printer this bad

like

this was bad from factory

no way it wasn't

[sharp dew]

yea their QC doesn't exist

[dawn lily]

hope they accept it, I kinda scratched the bed

a lot

[sharp dew]

ah just don't return that part

they won't notice

[dawn lily]

lol

that actually is true

[sharp dew]

the ones i buy are often missing the bed

probably for that reason

[dawn lily]

but that ain't amazon

they probs will check

[sharp dew]

oh yea

ok

its a glass bed, right?

how the f did you scratch it?

just cosmetically?

cos brass is softer than that glass

[dawn lily]

the top

uhhh

the coating

idk what it is

the black stuff on it

[sharp dew]

silicon carbide

as hard as steel

[dawn lily]

that probably

oh

guess it's just REALLY dirty

[sharp dew]

ye

fuck it

take it into the shower with you tonight

[dawn lily]

lol

[sharp dew]

and a scrubbing brush

[dawn lily]

nah

it's their job now

[sharp dew]

ya

free pronter

load firmware on with the name "this printer never worked right so i returned it"

[dawn lily]

oof

when this company sells back

they sell at a reduced price

depending on use

they will probs well this 40% off

or smth

I'll just rebuy for spare parts lol

(jk)

[sharp dew]

hah

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363848262441 i buy this

[dawn lily]

ohkk

[dawn lily]

in 4 days I will have a new printer then

do you think if I buy the same one

Ender 3 V2 I will still have the problems

[sharp dew]

buy the neo anyway

[dawn lily]

40 more dollars

[sharp dew]

its got the cr touch and metal extruder

metal extruder is better

[dawn lily]

cr touch really good yes

[sharp dew]

and remember to take the mod out of the extruder

[dawn lily]

what mod

[sharp dew]

the shim you made

[dawn lily]

oh you mean the z shunt

[sharp dew]

yea the parts you added

[dawn lily]

especially my auto power off

that's the most important thing ever

lol

idk if I get neo

it's near christmas

my wallet is empty

[sharp dew]

ok

i'd send you my cr touch but... you have no mount for it on a normal ender v2

and shipping is expensive

half the price of a unrepair ender3

[dawn lily]

eeh

I'll ask my mom to borrow then

I'll find a way

it's just 40 dollars

repaid in no time

after christmas

okay made a request to return it

I will get it there tomorrow

new one in 3 days

hopefully

(2 days to get the money and 1 day they will be checking it n shit)

(they usually just check if everything is in the box I think)

wait

I just realized

they are not gonna be fucking building the printer

they are gonna be like

okay it no work

let's just believe

@sharp dew

[sharp dew]

yes

[dawn lily]

exactly 40 dollars more, I will get the neo then yes

[dawn lily]

@sharp dew like never opened before haha

[sharp dew]

yea it looks new enough

the new owner is gonna be sooo happy with it

[dawn lily]

so I've returned the printer

should have the money on wednesday at most

so should have the v2 neo at wednesday

already ordered it and I set it to pay at pickup

oh also, you said something that it comes prebuilt or something?

badly prebuilt, but prebuilt either way

[sharp dew]

yea its meant to be just 4 bolts, plus the spool holder plus the screen

yea you remembered right

[dawn lily]

ohk, I'll reasemble it

[sharp dew]

okies :)

check all the eccentric nuts at least

[dawn lily]

factory bad you said right

[sharp dew]

1 finger nearly impossible 2 fingers easy

[dawn lily]

kk

[dawn lily]

Jesus they just said that it's gonna take some time

And they apologize for the delay

They actually gonna take the time to try that shit

[dawn lily]

Anyway @sharp dew I got hands on some money so I'll have the printer today

I won't actually fully rebuild it

But I still make sure everything is setup right

So I'll tightenall screws setup eccentric nuts, etc

I'm not feeling like rebuilding it completely when I don't need to

Just making sure it's setup right is enough

Will it be a 4.2.7 board or no? Or is it just luck to get over that has it

[sharp dew]

its gonna be 4.2.2 i think

and the firmware will be needed

cos it makes it good

[dawn lily]

Yes I'll put on the v2s1

[sharp dew]

here ahve a video

[dawn lily]

I'll need a guide on how to especially use the Blu touch

[sharp dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2U-C7-CiYE

[dawn lily]

That's the only thing I don't know about

[sharp dew]

its fine

[dawn lily]

Thanks

The v2 neo sure looks cooler

A little bit

[sharp dew]

i hate the closed extrusions

i'd rather it looked worse

[dawn lily]

Oh

[sharp dew]

you'll need hairspray for the build plate

are you europe or usa?

or asia?

africa?

[sharp dew]

he puts the spool holder on wrong. the screws are hidden from view when you do it right

you can change the side the roller screws into

and where he fastens the zip tie, move the printhead to the far right and up first

and where he plugs in teh z axis motor, undo the top grub screw and make sure the z-rod isn't toughing the stepper shaft

for the belt, push the bed back and make it say DUM DUM DUM

and you've got a z offset wizard and a tramming wizard so you can ignore all the probe stuff

print this first after you install Ender3V2S1

[dawn lily]

Europe

[dawn lily]

Like a high dum or low dum?

[dawn lily]

Ok great

As for the hair spray, can I use glue stick if I know how, cause I don't have any sticky hair spray rn

I do know how, I have used it before

[dawn lily]

Okok

[sharp dew]

low as possible is 90Hz, that is fine. 110Hz is ideal

[dawn lily]

Okok

[sharp dew]

bed too bumpy it will eat the whole glue stick

[dawn lily]

I don't mean the whole bed of course

Just the print area

[sharp dew]

you can make a gluestick water mix and dab it onto a hot bed with a sponge

[dawn lily]

Ok, I will do that

[sharp dew]

and you glue the whole bed ideally

[dawn lily]

So I just mix glue stick with water

[sharp dew]

well get a can of 3DLac from bezos

400ml can

[dawn lily]

It's so painful to remove

I'd rather not

[sharp dew]

it lasts all your life

[dawn lily]

Yeah I'll get something specific for it

[sharp dew]

ok

well 3dlac or hairspray

removing is easy

you bend the plate

pop

it releases

so simple

[dawn lily]

Wait it's bendable plate?

That would be great if it is

The ender 3 v2 is a glass plate so you cannot really bend that one

[sharp dew]

yea its powder coated steel

and nothing really sticks to it UNTIL you use glue

then its better than PEI

and yea use the spray :)

[dawn lily]

I'll get 3dlac it's basically free

[sharp dew]

just trust

yea

8 euros

same as hairspray

thats all it is

unscented hairspray

PVP

instead of PVA

[dawn lily]

So the glue also does pop from the bed?

[sharp dew]

thats lasts 10-15 prints

whatever

something liek that

when first layer doesn't go down properly its time for more glue

[dawn lily]

Okok, I'll look if I have hairspray, any sticky hair spray should work right

[sharp dew]

you always watch your first layer, right?

yea

[dawn lily]

Yeah ok

Ik*

[sharp dew]

hairspray is hairspray

you only need a 1 second spray

smallest amount is fine

[dawn lily]

So just any sticky hairspray

[sharp dew]

i made a cool box to spray in

[dawn lily]

I maybe have one

Do you think dry shampoo hairspray is okay

It does stick lol

[sharp dew]

no

hairspray

PVP or PVA or PVAc

its glue in a can

not shampoo

[dawn lily]

Idk if I can find player vs player hairspray

Where do I find this written

[sharp dew]

its jsut any hairspray

its fine

nothing fancy

3dlac is the best formulation

[dawn lily]

Are you American, because you have no brand stuff there

[sharp dew]

im english

[dawn lily]

We don't have any hairspray that's just "hairspray"

[sharp dew]

this is the spray box

you either put the build plate in it like that to spray it without making a mess

or you turn it over and put it on the pritner and spray into the space it makes

[dawn lily]

I'll just go to the balcony if I want to spray it

[sharp dew]

so you don't ahve to take the buildplate off

maximum lazy

just any box will do

[dawn lily]

Or that

Brb

[sharp dew]

see the little supports?

ok

[dawn lily]

Yeah

Ill figure it out lol

I don't mind making a mess in the room

I clean my room every other day so it's fine

[sharp dew]

haha don't spray glue on the pritner

cos it will get dirty and never cleanable

and dirt on the extrusion is 💀

bad prints forever

cos the roller

[dawn lily]

Oof

[sharp dew]

don't glue dirt to the extrusions

[dawn lily]

But what if I do

[sharp dew]

then you wash it off

[dawn lily]

Ill take the strongest glue in the house

Unwashable

What then

[sharp dew]

2 part epoxy resin

well luckily nothing much stick to ali

[dawn lily]

I'll buy the 3dlac tomorrow

[sharp dew]

well not sterong enough to make it unremovable

[dawn lily]

Until then glue water thingy

[sharp dew]

yea sure

i ahve a tupperware with a new sponge

a couple teaspoons of water in the box

the lid stops the glue slurry getting dirty

not lots of water

[dawn lily]

But won't water make it fluidy

[sharp dew]

the sponge is heavy, but the box is pretty dry

[dawn lily]

Making the glue not glur

Gtg sorry

[sharp dew]

yea

but then the bed dries it out

bye

when the bed dries it out its glue again

[dawn lily]

unlucky

4.2.2 GD board

[sharp dew]

whats unlucky

thats always the case with neo v2

[dawn lily]

oh especially the GD chip

you said those are worse

[sharp dew]

yea people have GD phobia

[dawn lily]

I love the magnetic plate so much

[sharp dew]

they're a bit different

well the mag plate is shit

things no stick

its the worst

until you add glue

then it becomes the best

[dawn lily]

yeah but it look cool

okay

time for firmware change

[sharp dew]

sure thing

sec

[sharp dew]

ah whatever go with that yea

i was gonna suggest one with liunear advance

but you prob don't know know that that is right?

print this after you upgrade

after you print it go to configuration / reboot printer

[dawn lily]

don't know

first I need to level the bed no?

[sharp dew]

no

first you need to either do the physical configuration steps

or print the file i just gave you and reobot

THEN you can do the tramming wizard

[dawn lily]

ok

I did that and saved settings

restarting

[sharp dew]

great

now you can tramming wizard

did you do the eccentric nuts?

and tighten the terminal blocks

[dawn lily]

yes I did

[sharp dew]

and all that stuff

[dawn lily]

tramming wizard

hmm

ah found it

[sharp dew]

well how compressed are the springs already

[dawn lily]

completely

[sharp dew]

5mm poking out the bottom of the wheels?

[dawn lily]

nah they were completely compressed

[sharp dew]

well back it off until there is 5-7mm poking out the bottom

do 2 wheels together

to avoid tacoing the bed

[dawn lily]

if I unscrew that much, the wheel just starts spinning freely

as the spring is not that long

[sharp dew]

oh fuck that

ok

do what feels right

[dawn lily]

I'll unscrew halfway

then I'll do the wizard magic

[sharp dew]

jsut don't 100% close the spring cos then it overlaps itself and loses all ability to spring

90% is fine

close the springs don't smash em

you know

yea do magic

then z offset magic

then load filament and poop a little

then MPC magic and bed magic

oh i brought the author of this firmware here eysterday

so he's on the discord now

[dawn lily]

oh cool

how much should paper scrape on z offset

little or a lot

[sharp dew]

you got the glue?

if so a little is cool

[dawn lily]

ok

[sharp dew]

you babystep it to get teh first layer good nayway

does the right hand side of the x-axis wobble up and down when you wiggle it?

does it wiggle when u wobble?

cos if it wiggles when u wobble then u in trubble

[dawn lily]

it no

it fine

I set it up properly

[sharp dew]

gucci

[dawn lily]

jesus I hate cooling to ambient

right after loading filmanet so from 190 degrees

[sharp dew]

it hates you too

[dawn lily]

good to know

[sharp dew]

which spray or glue did you get

[dawn lily]

3dlac, the seller had it in stock on the place

[sharp dew]

lets GOOOOO

[dawn lily]

yeah

[sharp dew]

400ml?

[dawn lily]

yeah

[sharp dew]

[dawn lily]

well

what do I print first

hmmm

that's the hard question

[dawn lily]

got about 3 hours until I go sleep

[sharp dew]

benchy then

[dawn lily]

just gonna tell prusa that I am on the neo instead of just v2

configuration wizard

more magic

[sharp dew]

start code might be wrong

you dont' want G29

you want M420 S1

[dawn lily]

G90 ; use absolute coordinates
M83 ; extruder relative mode
M140 S{first_layer_bed_temperature[0]} ; set final bed temp
M104 S{first_layer_temperature[0]} ; set final nozzle temp
G28 ; home all axis
G1 Z50 F240
G1 X2.0 Y10 F3000
M190 S{first_layer_bed_temperature[0]} ; wait for bed temp to stabilize
M109 S{first_layer_temperature[0]} ; wait for nozzle temp to stabilize
G1 Z0.28 F240
G92 E0
G1 X2.0 Y140 E10 F1500 ; prime the nozzle
G1 X2.3 Y140 F5000
G92 E0
G1 X2.3 Y10 E10 F1200 ; prime the nozzle
G92 E0

don't have G29 anywhere

[sharp dew]

M83 ; extruder relative mode
M140 S{first_layer_bed_temperature[0]} ; set final bed temp
M104 S{first_layer_temperature[0]} ; set final nozzle temp
G28 ; home all axis
M420 S1 Z10 ; Enable UBL with 10mm z-fade
G1 Z50 F240
G1 X2.0 Y10 F3000
M190 S{first_layer_bed_temperature[0]} ; wait for bed temp to stabilize
M109 S{first_layer_temperature[0]} ; wait for nozzle temp to stabilize
G1 Z0.28 F240
G92 E0
G1 X2.0 Y140 E10 F1500 ; prime the nozzle
G1 X2.3 Y140 F5000
G92 E0
G1 X2.3 Y10 E10 F1200 ; prime the nozzle
G92 E0```

[dawn lily]

thanks

doing the auto build mesh

just curious about it

It's in tolerance

Sorry that it's a screenshot, brother took my phone and forced me to send it this way lol

so hey

I tried it without the glue/3dlac

it holds perfectly

like absolute perfect

im not goot at reading this

is my z offset right

@sharp dew

[sharp dew]

maybe lift up 0.05

[dawn lily]

but that leads to 1.61, so I will set it to 1.60 because good number

[sharp dew]

so it was 1.66 before?

ok

try it

[dawn lily]

oh also I tried popping it

but it probably won't work when the bed is hot right

[sharp dew]

popping?

[dawn lily]

or is it because it's small

you know, bending the bed

so it pops out

[sharp dew]

yea it will be nearly impossible to get off

cos its a single layer

[dawn lily]

okok

so do I do benchy

or do I print this again

[sharp dew]

yea i would

benchy

[dawn lily]

okok

benchy at 1.60 z offset

I have seen that I don't need to 3dlac yet, so I won't use it yet unless I need to

[sharp dew]

set yoour acceleration to 1000 / 1000 on x and y

and

[dawn lily]

too late

I already started

[sharp dew]

retraction tower

ok

[dawn lily]

like 2 mins ago

[sharp dew]

gl

[dawn lily]

I will do those tomorrow

it's at 6mm for now just in case

[sharp dew]

that will work

[dawn lily]

yo

you did something at your start code

after it draws the start line

it moves up and to side a little and then wipes

I would like that

;TIME:5607
;Filament used: 4.46023m
;Layer height: 0.2
;MINX:80.627
;MINY:98.415
;MINZ:0.2
;MAXX:147.298
;MAXY:136.589
;MAXZ:48
;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 5.2.1
M140 S60
M105
M190 S60
M104 S210
M105
M109 S210
M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
; Ender 3 Custom Start G-code
G21 ; Set units to mm

;G91 ; Relative positioning
;G0 Z2 ; Raise Z 2mm

G90 ; Absolute positioning

G92 E0 ; Reset Extruder
G28 ; Move to home position
M420 S1 Z2 ; Bilear or UBL previous grid
;M420 S1 L0 Z2 ; Bileanear or UBL grid 0
;G29 L0 T1 V4  ; load slot 0 and display
;G29 A V4   ; activate
;G29 F2 V4  ; fade height 2mm
;G29 J2 V4  ; measure tilt
;G29 D ; DEACTIVATE leveling


G1 Z10.0 F3000 ; Move Z Axis up little to prevent scratching of Heat Bed
G1 X10.1 Y20 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move to start position
G1 X10.1 Y200.0 Z0.3 F1500.0 E15 ; Draw the first line
G1 X10.4 Y200.0 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move to side a little
G1 X10.4 Y20 Z0.3 F1500.0 E30 ; Draw the second line
G92 E0 ; Reset Extruder
G1 Z2.0 F3000 ; Move Z Axis up little to prevent scratching of Heat Bed
G1 X15 Y20 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move over to prevent blob squish
G92 E0
G92 E0
G1 F2700 E-6```

I cannot find it in your start code

can you tell me which code does that

is it this

G1 X15 Y20 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move over to prevent blob squish```

[sharp dew]

ye

but thats relative to the stuff before it

[dawn lily]

yeah I'll steal the whole line code you got

[sharp dew]

you you pulled that out of a sliced gcode

[dawn lily]

and replace mine with it

[dawn lily]

yes

out of the boat code you sent me

[sharp dew]

this is mine ```
; Ender 3 Custom Start G-code
G21 ; Set units to mm
M413 S0 ; Disable power-loss recovery mode

; if Z-axis drops when printer is idle use this
;G91 ; Relative positioning
;G0 Z2 ; Raise Z 2mm

G90 ; Absolute positioning

G92 E0 ; Reset Extruder
G28 ; Move to home position
M420 S1 Z2 ; Bilear or UBL previous grid
;M420 S1 L0 Z2 ; Bileanear or UBL grid 0
;G29 L0 T1 V4 ; load slot 0 and display
;G29 A V4 ; activate
;G29 F2 V4 ; fade height 2mm
;G29 J2 V4 ; measure tilt
;G29 D ; DEACTIVATE leveling

G1 Z10.0 F3000 ; Move Z Axis up little to prevent scratching of Heat Bed
G1 X10.1 Y20 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move to start position
G1 X10.1 Y200.0 Z0.3 F1500.0 E15 ; Draw the first line
G1 X10.4 Y200.0 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move to side a little
G1 X10.4 Y20 Z0.3 F1500.0 E30 ; Draw the second line
G92 E0 ; Reset Extruder
G1 Z2.0 F3000 ; Move Z Axis up little to prevent scratching of Heat Bed
G1 X15 Y20 Z0.3 F5000.0 ; Move over to prevent blob squish```

[dawn lily]

thanks

I will steal that a little

I will just steal the whole start code, except for the temperature stuff

I like it to start heating both at once and home at the same time

[sharp dew]

yea there no temperature stuff in my start code

leaving it out is the best tactic, in cura

yea thats not as good

cos nozzle heat time lets the heat spread to the corners

and its gentler on the power supply

[dawn lily]

I will have it wait like 10 seconds after that then or smth

I will figure it out

[sharp dew]

k

in cura just leave out temperature commands cuz cura knows how to do it nicely

[dawn lily]

yeah, but I'm speed

cura 🐌
me

[sharp dew]

yours is shit though, it hoems the printer before the bed is heated up

the bed moves as it gets hot

thermal expansion

[dawn lily]

if you want me to I can calculate how much it moves

cause it is not a lot

[sharp dew]

okie dokie

first layer is the most important

don't spoil the ship for a thruppence of tar

[dawn lily]

yeah ik

I can see that the 40 dolllars was worth it

just for the blu touch

like just for that it's worth it

the other stuff is nice to have

but the blu touch is game changer

[dawn lily]

got the stringy haha

I will do the whole calibration tomorrow

like speed, acceleration, retraction, etc..

[sharp dew]

ok

[dawn lily]

it's only a little bit though, I may be overretracting

I heard that can also cause stringing

[sharp dew]

enable "firmware retraction" in slicer

and then adjust retraction on lcd mid print

[dawn lily]

kk

[sharp dew]

and toohot makes strings too

[dawn lily]

?

oh too hot

[sharp dew]

hotend too hot makes strings too

if it oozes before you print its more liable to string

[dawn lily]

200 degrees

[sharp dew]

sounds good

[dawn lily]

but yeah looks quite good for first print

[sharp dew]

k

[dawn lily]

still printing so I'll send pic later

what is enable runout?

is that for when you have filament detector

[sharp dew]

yea

its fine leave it

[dawn lily]

ahh

my auto power off can't work, the sizes are a little different

[sharp dew]

ok

[dawn lily]

Not perfect, but it is a first print

[dawn lily]

but good for first print

[sharp dew]

its ok

[dawn lily]

why is discord so sloow

[sharp dew]

looks like the priontheads wobbly

[dawn lily]

okay I can fix that easily

just more work with the eccentric nuts

[sharp dew]

i had to spray over it because it blocked the image too

the AI overlords do not like criticism

[sharp dew]

what's that

[dawn lily]

reports for bad discord

[sharp dew]

AI has gone mad with power

[dawn lily]

yeah

[sharp dew]

where is taht chart

[dawn lily]

https://downdetector.com/status/discord/

[sharp dew]

ahhh ok

[dawn lily]

it stopped countring

it got lazy

Still got no idea what you meant that it doesn't stick

I have tried 3 beds basically including this one

[sharp dew]

ok

[dawn lily]

The ender 3 v2 original bed, the flipped ender 3 v2 bed(glass) and this one

[sharp dew]

well good luck

[dawn lily]

It sticks the best of them all

[sharp dew]

and this one is working with no glue?

[dawn lily]

Yeah

[sharp dew]

i hope it lasts forever

[dawn lily]

I just cleaned it with 99.9% isopropyl

[dawn lily]

Sure do too, thanks

[sharp dew]

you know i've been solving tickets for a year

[dawn lily]

Oh cool

[sharp dew]

and dozens of them ahve been for that buildplate

of which i've woined 3 myself

and you've had it for 5 minutes :)

[dawn lily]

Oh

Well I did have it only for two prints now

[sharp dew]

yea

i hope it sticks forever but doubt it will

[dawn lily]

But I'm just saying it works now

So no glue needed yet

Anyway I need to run from discord, it's getting annoying

[sharp dew]

and IPA is ok, but it doesn't remove grease, only spreads it aroundf

waters it down and dries out to give an even grease coat

ok!

[dawn lily]

Ohk, see you tomorrow, slow sending of messages is really painful

Have a nice day and thanks so much for all the hell

Help

Did building a mesh make it also automatically move up and down depending on that mesh

Because display says it's moving between .38 and .41

[sharp dew]

yes

exactly that

[dawn lily]

Oh when I asked about it before you said it no do that, maybe I asked wrong

[sharp dew]

its sexy how it displays it live

um

well i love that feature

so uh

[dawn lily]

Same

[sharp dew]

miscommunication

[dawn lily]

Anyway really gonna go now

[sharp dew]

really night

[dawn lily]

I'm the B person

[sharp dew]

hi

[dawn lily]

Yo @sharp dew what line width do you think should use for details

Something like .12 line height

[sharp dew]

usually 0.4 but 0.48 is fine too

[dawn lily]

I always used .44, as thats the default

[sharp dew]

yea thats fine

[dawn lily]

Alrighty

Should I take it that less width = more time and more detail

Just like height

[sharp dew]

not always

[dawn lily]

But I shouldn't go too low, like .3 - .5 at .4 nozzle

[sharp dew]

smaller than nozzle width will give you a mess

[dawn lily]

Ohk

Good to know

Google lies

[sharp dew]

reddit lies and google trusts it

[dawn lily]

Yeah

[sharp dew]

theres info, youtube tomb of 3d printed horrors for mini printing

[dawn lily]

So if I really wanted good detail ushoukd go down to like .2 nozzle

[sharp dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWOiu5Nkg5A

[dawn lily]

And print at like .22

[sharp dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUVU3OFiXLs

[dawn lily]

I'll check out that series

[sharp dew]

yea

[dawn lily]

I especiaply have problem at angles like when you want something smooth but you have steps

[sharp dew]

tl;dw: 0.4 is fine

[dawn lily]

Kk, I'll watch the video when done with classes

We are closing in on 2000 messages lol

This deserves our own channel

[sharp dew]

this is our own chanel

[dawn lily]

Poprox weird thingy channel

[dawn lily]

@sharp dew is there a way to park the head after first layer and wait for confirmation or something

You know, so I can check if the first layer is good and stuff

It's quite hard to see on smaller prints

[sharp dew]

i guess you could tell it to do a filament change

and not change the filament

im not sure basically

[dawn lily]

I'll try looking into it once I'm back hom

E

[sharp dew]

we could try asking the master!
How does the user pause their printer to inspect the print, after the first layer is complete. @mental kettle?

he is using your firmware on ender3 v2 neo

maybe move to park and G4 Dwell for 20 seconds?

maybe M600?

[dawn lily]

you are summoning a big boss

I see

[sharp dew]

i think that NOBODY KNOWS

on klipper you jsut write PAUSE in the gcode

[dawn lily]

do you have the MP though to fight the boss?

[dawn lily]

interesting

I don't think MRisco has read the messages yet, that is also possible

[sharp dew]

yes he is very busy

[dawn lily]

they would probably at least say they don't know

[dawn lily]

ah I see

[mental kettle]

You can use the normal pause; the printer head will move to the parking position if you are printing via USB. But also, you can slowdown the printing speed.

[mental kettle]

No, M600 is for filament change, M25 is normal pause

[sharp dew]

so, wait for the end and press pause on LCD

M25 thanks

M25 only for SD card

we need a good Marlin pause command:
Works with SD and USB.
Parks print head
Bed and hotend stay hot
resume with LCD and/or timer

i think M600 is best?

[dawn lily]

guess so yeah

[sharp dew]

is filament automatically unloaded?

[dawn lily]

no idea, hope not

[sharp dew]

it probably is, one second

yea its bad

it unloads old and waits to load new

[dawn lily]

ah ok

[mental kettle]

Pause with Octoprint depends on the G-code pause script configured in Octoprint

[dawn lily]

no octoprint yet :(

[sharp dew]

does M25 keep hot?

if yes, m25 is perfect for you

[mental kettle]

With M600 yes, with M25 no

[dawn lily]

and does it retract a little to prevent drooping(? don't know if it's the right word)

or can I set that up in config file

[mental kettle]

I don't remember, but if not, you can add a G10 or G1 E-5....

[sharp dew]

pausing prints isn't something that we usually do

[dawn lily]

oh yeah

[dawn lily]

ik, I just want great first layers

[sharp dew]

remember I told you to turn on firmware retract?

[dawn lily]

ye

[sharp dew]

put G10 ; Firmware retract M25 ; Pause SD card print G11 ; Firmware unretract

[dawn lily]

I am gonna do the retract tower on this printer today

[dawn lily]

kk

[sharp dew]

that is so good

[dawn lily]

that looks cool

[mental kettle]

In Orca/Prusa/Super slicer you can add a conditional to execute that snipped only after the first layer

[sharp dew]

ah very nice

i am only using cura

[dawn lily]

oh that's great

I was thinking of adding a post processing python script to do it

if it's already built in that is much easier

[sharp dew]

that would work

or theres a cura plugin

unless that is what you mean

[mental kettle]

Cura

Retract and unretract

[dawn lily]

jesus, I hate cura but I love seeing what it can do sometime

[sharp dew]

lovely

[mental kettle]

😁

[sharp dew]

i wonder if standby temperature 0 is ignored

[mental kettle]

G10 and G11 only if Cura has the firmware retract enabled.

[sharp dew]

yes i told him to use this

he has enabled it, I hope

poprox24?

do you have this setting and is it enabled?

you might need "printer settings" plugin

[mental kettle]

What is the problem with the printing?

[sharp dew]

he is examining first layer, new printer

[dawn lily]

ah there is no problem anymore, more like setting up now

I ended up finding out that I am never buying ender 3 v2 again

the v2 neo is really cool so far

but just the v2 is bad

[sharp dew]

if you scroll up you will see 2000 messages of Ender-3 V2 problems

this is a new printer

[mental kettle]

V2? it is old, I have a V2 and I'm happy with it.

[sharp dew]

v2 is very good

v2 neo is better

[dawn lily]

I just got a bad one from what it seemed like

they have great QC

[sharp dew]

professional firmware makes v2 good

this was the old printer troubleshooting

100% rebuild

[dawn lily]

v2s1 firmware is really good yes, praise the god MRiscoC

[dawn lily]

twice

[mental kettle]

only if it has a STM32F1 RET6 SoC

[sharp dew]

200% rebuild

gd32 is good also!

i ahve 2 gd32 v2 neo both very good

[dawn lily]

I got GD haha

[sharp dew]

2208 and 2209 drivers

[dawn lily]

no idea for the drivers, didn't check

[mental kettle]

Some GD RET6 only has flash of size similar to RCT6.

[sharp dew]

nooooooo

i am using LA and UBL and MPC

[mental kettle]

So, for GD always compile with RC environment.

to be on the safe side.

[sharp dew]

ok

i did not know, and I bought 5 GD32 chips

[mental kettle]

If you have a programmer, try to fill the flash memory and do a binary comparison.

[sharp dew]

512

i do!

all size info here

RBT6 💀

[mental kettle]

I know the specs, but I read a while back that some GD32 RET6s came with a bad flash that rendered the top 256K unusable.

[sharp dew]

ahhhhhhh very good

I will perform the test

i am not sure what to binary compare with though

if it is not present it will be FF FF FF FF

[mental kettle]

but could be a bad batch used in some boards were it is not necessary to fill the entire flash.

[sharp dew]

yes i understand

and I believe 100% creality would use this cheaper product

it seems like printing error

GD-Link should report size

Ender3V2-422-BLTUBL-IS-LA-MPC-20230511 size: 216kb

😂

I will use RC :)

@mental kettle

https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/GigaDevice_GigaDevice-Semicon-Beijing-GD32F303RET6_C116152.html

[mental kettle]

Sorry, I can no longer find the original reference to this statement.

[mental kettle]

safe side

[sharp dew]

selling RET6 with 256KB

[mental kettle]

Maybe they know that they have a bad batch

[sharp dew]

exactly

and creality are buying

$1 saving :)

[mental kettle]

I must go for now, see you later.

[sharp dew]

adios

thanks jefe

[dawn lily]

Here, my first layers at two different places

Think they are quite good,but the second one looks a little broken on the further

Just a very little

[sharp dew]

looks like you're showing off

i've rarely seen top layers that good

[dawn lily]

Yeah it is good idk what am I blabbering

Really good

Without glue even

[dawn lily]

I'm bad at reading this, is this good, too high or too low?

[sharp dew]

lower it 0.07, and maybe a little more after

its too high

[dawn lily]

0.08

lower

[sharp dew]

great, lift it back up 0.04

if it goes up at the edges, its too low

[dawn lily]

how often should I build the mesh

like how often is it needed

I don't mean it as like psychiological needs because it looks cool

alsoo why can I save different meshes

[sharp dew]

UBL has 10 mesh slots, or something like that

you can always use slot 0 if you never specify

or else M420 defaults to the previously used mesh

i almost never rebuild it

[dawn lily]

so I got this

how do I implemment it

do I just set everything to 0(auto)

and then set this here

I know you aren't a prusa person, but like that would be right, setting everything to auto and then telling it what the values are