budget is somewhat flexible but hoping to stay in the (300-500$ range.) favorite cosplayer recommended the anycubic kobra max, is that a good choice?
#looking for a large printer for cosplay items/masks (preferably in one piece) complete beginner
sand token
sand token
looks affordable, thank you for the recommendation :)
does the quality matter if I can sand the print down afterwards?
will the print be paintable afterwards as well? if so, what paint works for 3d models? not sure where to start
grand glacier
will the print be paintable afterwards as well? if so, what paint works for 3d m...
Wdym
patent flame
you need to prime all 3d prints
you need either canned primer or airbrush primer
and things like vallejo model color paints or vallejo air brush paints or the army painter 2.0 speed paints
and then a clearcoat
if you're not printing in resin you will probably have visible layer lines
sand token
if you're not printing in resin you will probably have visible layer lines
yeah, resin just seems too complicated for me right now. also seems to only work with smaller prints. would sanding the print down a little afterwards help with the layer lines?
well not really complicated, more high matinence compared to fdm
sand token
Wdym
as in manually painting onto the model afterwards instead of printing in different colors
if the resin printer is likely to work better with what I'm looking for I'm willing to look into one of those instead. just worried a larger area will cost more
i'm hoping to be able to make something similar to this; image credits: https://willowcreativ.com/portfolio/costumes/
mechanics aside, mostly referring to size
she's the one who reccommended the anycubic kobra max on her story
patent flame
Normal fdm prints don’t sand down very well
It’s rigid plastic with only a few surface top layers
sand token
hmmm I see. that's tough
from what I've learned the cosplayer I linked uses very similar methods
here's a better reference
I'd probably be fine with the quality shown in the image. anything worse would be hard to ignore tho. does primer help with layer lines at all?
grand glacier
as in manually painting onto the model afterwards instead of printing in differe...
Ah, if you print it right and you sand it a bit you can do that
sand token
oh ok that might work. I’m actually looking into this as well since @patent flame mentioned resin https://www.anycubic.com/products/photon-mono-m5s?gclid=CjwKCAjw-b-kBhB-EiwA4fvKrIPWLPLIJwhUvCsXFpQXiVF1jeAFOIybBXYlNL2jNt5K2EcPwicLqhoCW1MQAvD_BwE
roughly 10 inches so it looks like it would print a full mask in one piece
grand glacier
How many printers have you had or is this your first one?
patent flame
oh ok that might work. I’m actually looking into this as well since <@555231251...
this is fast, but compromises on detail
layer lines are visible with this specific printer
because it is what it says it is, fast
and has some weird opaque fep film that causes a loss of detail
sand token
first, complete beginner 
patent flame
that shouldnt be your first resin machine
sand token
ah man I thought resin focused on detail
grand glacier
first, complete beginner <:SCherbertCRY:742959847523221574>
I would go with a LONGER 5 pro if it's your first printer
patent flame
go with elegoo
grand glacier
Resin is not a beginner thing
patent flame
what is longer?
sand token
I’m completely fine with it taking a while
patent flame
so with resin
grand glacier
what is longer?
It's a brand
patent flame
you're going to need more than the printer and resin
sand token
air purifiers?
patent flame
you'll want a silicon matt, UV flashlight for cleaning spills, lots of paper towels, lots of gloves, respirator
and a wash and cure station
because once resin prints are done they need to be washed in either water or IPA
and then cured with UV
sand token
oh jeez so the price of the machine won’t be the final cost?
patent flame
far from it
grand glacier
Alot more then a fdm printer
patent flame
that's just the first part of the process
all in for a beginner printer you'll be around 500
sand token
yeah fdm seems like the best option by far, worried about detail tho
patent flame
this is the printer and the wash and cure station for 332
sand token
hoping to build a portfolio for college
patent flame
then you'd need resin and cleaup stuff
grand glacier
If your print settings are right and you have a good printer your quality will be good
patent flame
layer lines for painting are not optimal on fdm machines
even with the limited amount of sanding that can be done
patent flame
it's also harder to print stuff like masks on fdm
with the crazy amount of supports needed for overhangs
grand glacier
I just think since you're a first time printer get a fdm printer
patent flame
it just depends on how much work you want to put in
sand token
this might sound weird but what if I torched the lines or something and flattened them down with my hands? too crazy?
grand glacier
this might sound weird but what if I torched the lines or something and flattene...
No
Don't
patent flame
you -could- do acetone fume bath
for smoothing it out
but that's a lot of acetone and needs a well ventilated place much like resin needs
sand token
I have an uhhh garage
patent flame
in some ways resin will be easier for printing stuff like this that focuses on detail
because FDM will need a rediuclous amount of supports
grand glacier
What is your price range
patent flame
and depending on the printer you get for this budget will be slower than resin
sand token
in total id say like 600 max? maybe more?
patent flame
if you want to go fdm, go bambu p1p
699
nothing else is worth it IMO
p1p is painless 15 min setup, super fast, and will save you a LOT of troubleshooting
grand glacier
if you want to go fdm, go bambu p1p
Oh hell yea, I forgot about the Bambu
patent flame
i have their x1 carbon
the p1p is basically just a stripped down version of it
and by far the best printer for the budget
grand glacier
Yea, but since you are a first time printer, go with fdm to get a basic understanding of how a 3d printer works, it helps a lot down the road in your 3d printing journey
patent flame
p1p will be good because you won't spend 12 hours of your time troubleshooting issues with cheap unreliable fdm printers
grand glacier
Yea that's good
patent flame
p1p is an extremely solid choice if you want to fork out the 699
grand glacier
Is the Bambu direct drive?
patent flame
yes
sand token
does it connect using Wi-Fi or Bluetooth?
grand glacier
Or octoprint
grand glacier
octoprint is useless for bambu machines
Damn that sucks
patent flame
it sucks because bambu already does it better than octoprint
sand token
only programs I have are zbrush and blender, still getting used to those too lol
sand token
ohh I see. does it come with the product?
patent flame
here's the only thing you need to do to get it printing
you slice up the model and press send
yes, it's free
sand token
okay that seems doable
grand glacier
Yea get the Bambu then later when you have the money and experience get the resin printer
sand token
do I have to make the supports myself or does the program put them in automatically?
grand glacier
It does it itself
patent flame
program will make them automatically
sand token
oh good I was worried about that
grand glacier
All slicers have automatic supports
But
You can turn them off
For like printing wings
And other stuff
sand token
are printers a fire hazard at all?
grand glacier
If you don't get a cheap Chinese printer you will be fine
sand token
lol okay good to know
patent flame
modern printers aren't a fire risk
grand glacier
But you should be able to start a print and leave your house
patent flame
here's an example of auto generated tree supports
grand glacier
With our risk
patent flame
bambu even has AI monitoring for prints and will pause it when it detects a problem
and uses AI detection and LiDAR to analyze the first layer
grand glacier
Look up videos and learn to use the slicer, it will help a lot
sand token
do the supports use up a lot of the material?
grand glacier
Nope
patent flame
depends on how big the model is
grand glacier
Tree supports are the best
patent flame
but they are a lot less dense than the print
sand token
oh that’s a releif
how much material would I have to buy every month would you guys say?
in the case I use it every day for large masks
patent flame
depends on how much you'd be printing
if you had it cranking 24/7 maybe a few kg a month?
and PLA is about 20-25 bucks per KG
grand glacier
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Buy this
It will last you a long time
sand token
perfect thank you. :) are there different textures one can buy? like squishy or flexible?
sand token
For example animal noses
patent flame
you'd want to do bambu filament if you want to go full speed
about the same price
if you order the printer, add the filament in a SEPERATE order
otherwise the printer shipment could be delayed
sand token
ohhh I see. yeah that’s what I mean
grand glacier
The list goes on
patent flame
only thing you'll need is PLA
especially if you're painting
talking about painting
do you have primer and nice acrylic paints?
and clearcoats?
grand glacier
only thing you'll need is PLA
Abs is a whole different thing
patent flame
ABS is archaic and hardly anyone uses it anymore
stinky nasty stuff
also, if you buy bambu filaments, it'll tell you how much is on every roll and how much is left
grand glacier
I kinda think the smell of hot pla is nice lmao🤣🤣🤣
grand glacier
have you ever printed ABS elon?
Yea, it's sucks
sand token
do you have primer and nice acrylic paints?
I can get those free from my school if we are talking acrylics
patent flame
we are talking like Vallejo model color paints
not everyday cheap arcylic tube paints
all model hobby shops will have a large selection
sand token
yeah, I could probably get those with my school
grand glacier
at 0.08mm layer height
Jesus Christ lmao
sand token
yeah that’s cool I can barely see the lines
patent flame
if you want to print at crazy low layer heights like that you will want the p1p
took like 4 hours on my machine, but would probably take around 12 hours on any other printer
sand token
I’m in no rush so time is fine with me
mostly focused on quality so I’d say a wait is expected
sand token
lol I can put it on overnight right?
patent flame
a 10 hour difference
you could, but depending on where it is it could be a bit noisey
if you want to save money and have other drawbacks you can get something other than the p1p
grand glacier
lol I can put it on overnight right?
Yup
patent flame
you'll get what you pay for
grand glacier
Guess how long this god damn thing took to print
patent flame
why did you not print that in vase mode
patent flame
how long was it
grand glacier
13 hours and 56 minutes, idk my printer likes to be autistic sometimes
sand token
how long is it supposed to take
patent flame
vil do you have a file for one of the masks you want to print?
sand token
no I’m still sketching the concepts ahhh
patent flame
im assuming you're proficient in blender
you'll just need to export models as .stl
and printer slicer software will handle it from there
sand token
yeah zbrush exports in stl I assume?
patent flame
never used zbrush, not sure
sand token
all good I’ll check
ok yes it’s got all the good stuff
also thanks so much for the help so far guys! I really appreciate it :)
looking into the p1p now
grand glacier
also thanks so much for the help so far guys! I really appreciate it :)
Np
sand token
I’m definitely gonna do more research but this review says the UI is really difficult to work with https://youtu.be/2RNt_BKGwjE
this guy makes it sound like problems come up very often which concerns me
sand token
again im not too worried about speed, so I’m willing to sacrifice time for better quality
sand token
oh I see my bad
patent flame
sand token
yeah other than that one video I mentioned before everyone seems to love it. you have a Bambu yourself right?
yupyup seeing the video is recent and very positive makes me feel wayyyyy better. thanks so much. might get that
patent flame
I do have a bambu x1 carbon yes