#layer shifting

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unkempt marsh
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i have a ender 3 plus, only 2 months old.

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im pretty sure the belts arent meant to look this worn either

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ignore the print, but this is the settings im using for the helm sunlu pla+

fresh plover
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no the belts should not be like that

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check if one of your rollers got loose or is miss alinged

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about the layer shift ... can you mark it? i have to lie i dont see one

unkempt marsh
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this should be a straight vertical print

fresh plover
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ah

unkempt marsh
fresh plover
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you sure its not z binding? or the heatbed temp going up and down

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i would try moving that gear up 1 or 2 mm

unkempt marsh
fresh plover
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the one in the video you just posted the silver part where your belt is on

unkempt marsh
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heat bed goes to 59 60 59 ...etc

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oh u can move it

fresh plover
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its screwd onto the shaft yes with two inset grub screws

unkempt marsh
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ill try n find a vid

unkempt marsh
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ef me this is causing more probs than its worth

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3d printing ugh

fresh plover
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ehh the problem is rather the creality printer believe me. without creality printers shite we would have way less people XD

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about the wooble ... can you send me the gcode you used? i want to check something

unkempt marsh
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u from the uk? can i just pay u to come here n fix it lmao ive been having this prob for a while

fresh plover
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no im from germany i would be more expensive then the printer

unkempt marsh
fresh plover
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i would need the gcode not the stl

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gcode is what you put on your printer

unkempt marsh
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oh the sd is still in the printer and its printing atm

fresh plover
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you can reslice it?

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anyway since your layershift is with an significant change in colour i think you had rapid speed changes causing the extrusion to have trouble extruding at a stable temperature

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whats your print temp?

unkempt marsh
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210/60

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print speed is 60 also

fresh plover
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hmm

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thats not much but it is a crealty ...s1?

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(not the pro edition)

unkempt marsh
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s1 plus

fresh plover
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so allmetal hotend?

unkempt marsh
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i believe so

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doesnt let me send the file cos its too big

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for gcode

fresh plover
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okay so thats one possible explanation. the allmetalhotend needs at least +10 more temp due lower thermal transfer rate

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you can upload it to a google drive or so

unkempt marsh
fresh plover
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should look similar to this

unkempt marsh
fresh plover
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at least something under the cover of the first image

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that with the gcode will take a while because due its size and software limitation ... it has loding times as heck

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i hate it that the slicers are sometimes signle core

unkempt marsh
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ngl am scared to touch them screws u said about haha

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i cant find a vid on it

fresh plover
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i mean you only slight ly move the gear on the motors shaft and tighten the srews down again

unkempt marsh
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lool cura seems to take ages with everything for me

fresh plover
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in that case its very large file and cura is using multicore but not always

unkempt marsh
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when i tightened the screws on the x axis it made it a lil better but still not right

fresh plover
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unkempt marsh
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this is a new print of the same file btw

fresh plover
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what do you say does the wobble alling roughly with the orange lines

unkempt marsh
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sorry i dont understand the question,

fresh plover
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the orange lines are the travel path of your print head

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its possible with a mode call combing that it causes ood movement resulting in the wobble / shifts you see

unkempt marsh
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is that related to why that line of fillament is there inside the helm

fresh plover
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possible yes

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im currently trying to find out if you use combing ๐Ÿ™‚

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because it has several versions resulting in different tool paths

unkempt marsh
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this problem hasnt just happened either ive had this prob with alot of my prints but not as bad as this

fresh plover
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that means either hardware or a slicer issue

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in your slicer there is a searchbar

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you can type combing in there and tell me if its on or off

unkempt marsh
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that vid u sent didnt have any info of adjusting the back motor thing u were talking about?

fresh plover
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jep its about ruling out an ohter hardware issue

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but my suggestion is combing

unkempt marsh
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ah ok

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change my combing mode?

fresh plover
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you can do 2 things

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turning combing off

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and or print a 10 cm high cylinder

unkempt marsh
fresh plover
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sure just scale it up in your slicer ๐Ÿ™‚

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also you can use vase mode

unkempt marsh
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so combing being turned off wont knock into aready printed parts

fresh plover
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if everything works no

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thats why i want you to test for the mechanical issue

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that video is great about it

unkempt marsh
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yh thats the one i wated

fresh plover
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the problem is that there are mostly several reasons for each issue

unkempt marsh
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my bro in law has the same printer as me, hes the one that sent me the file for the helm. i literally copied his settings and his came out perfect

fresh plover
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yeah but i would never run a strangers gcode

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for the futere

unkempt marsh
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his combing is the same as mine

fresh plover
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even if its the same machine

unkempt marsh
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ah ok

fresh plover
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for example if your bro did a pid tune .. its already running differently

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or if he got lucky and the chinese slave child assembling the printer had 2 rice corns that day and did it correctly ๐Ÿ˜„

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id say 95% im fixing creality printers here :/

unkempt marsh
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ive emailed them about the belt btw but theyre terrible at replying

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i emailed them thursday

fresh plover
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i dont know if the video about the zbinding checks for that. you need to make sure that the leadscrew and the motor shaft dont touch each other inside the coupler. thats one thing thats often wrong

unkempt marsh
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the gold bit doesnt touch the silver cylider bit? is that what ur saying

fresh plover
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you can also check if the top part is at an nice 90ยฐ angle and brass part is tight

unkempt marsh
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ignore my 3d printing dumb language lmao

fresh plover
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sofar no harm done you did not ask what filament is.. and yes that happens more often then you think

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the part i talk about is the thing above the stepper motor

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it allows a little flex

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but only if the upper spindle is not all the way down

unkempt marsh
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googling stepper motor loool

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oh ok

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the silver cylinder

fresh plover
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coupler

unkempt marsh
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so the stepper motor hitting the coupler

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omg i annoy myself

fresh plover
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eh its a lot of stuff and nobody tells you so still fine

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also no

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the coupler transmits the movement from the motor to the leadscrew

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as its second function it can compensate minor misallingments

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but only if it can move

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and if the leadscrew is all the way down into the coupler so it sits on the stepper motors shaft that function is lost

unkempt marsh
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sorry which one is the leadscrew, the brass one

fresh plover
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no thats usally a t8 leadscrew nut

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the thing inside it is the lead screw

unkempt marsh
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i think it is in there

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this might be abit farfetched, but could it be that the pla roll isnt getting pulled enough? light the roll is too tight

fresh plover
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normaly the extruder is pretty tight

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and ithat would be a more visible issue

unkempt marsh
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so raise the leadscrew up so it isnt in the stepper

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might be abit of a silly question but whenever i lower the % of a build in cura this has happened

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i lowered this helm to 95%

fresh plover
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no that should not be an issue

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scaleing rarely causes that issue

unkempt marsh
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the worst of the problems is the face part of the helm the front of the printer seems to be alot worse than the back

fresh plover
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that can be a coincidence if only one of the issues we talked about is there

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anyway its late

unkempt marsh
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yeh man sorry about this

fresh plover
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no problem. try the fixes i told you and then let me know if one worked ๐Ÿ™‚

unkempt marsh
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ill try the things u said, if not then imma throw it accrss the roomo

fresh plover
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you are british you shank it or ship it to austrailia ๐Ÿ˜„

unkempt marsh
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or take it as a slave

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ohp

fresh plover
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i think with chinese stuff it was more opiod wars ๐Ÿ˜„

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anyway good night and good luck ๐Ÿ™‚

unkempt marsh
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haha

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goodnight

unkempt marsh
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Hey mate u there

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How loose is this meant to be @fresh plover

fresh plover
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the bras part?

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not an milimeter

unkempt marsh
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Not an millimetre?

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So super tight?

fresh plover
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you still havent told me wich part

unkempt marsh
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Oh the brass bit

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Ignore my disgusting hands, just got back from work

fresh plover
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id say that should not move

unkempt marsh
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so