#PUG PLAYERS PLEASE READ - About recent Games

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ashen swan
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if i ever get around to making my own map its gonna be meat themed

keen storm
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Sausage fingers in 5

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@ashen swan

icy goblet
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lmao

boreal halo
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-Big chungus in 3!
-Dude, that was a testicular prolapse...
-Fuck. My bad, im still getting used to the new calls.

icy goblet
lyric shuttle
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So what are pugs like for players who aren't very good but willing to learn? CTF was never my jam but I'd rather learn to play CTF well then not play Tribes at all.

icy goblet
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Pugs can be rough to start at first. Unless you're really pretty good at a specialized role, like; running fast and consistent routes for the flag, using the sentinel class to spot and snipe cappers and offense, ridiculously good at chasing cappers with thrust/nitrons... Unless you're one of those roles, there's a good chance you'll play an offense role.

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But, we're always happy to get more people involved, and it's pretty straightforward to get better.

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Moreover, we're pretty desperate just to get a game started a lot of times, so it's great to have new players show interest and jump in.

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@lyric shuttle I recommend you read Dodge's guide on playing pugs.

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And if it seems a little much, keep in mind we play Mixers every weekend Fridays and Saturdays. And it's the same game of CTF, but a lot more relaxed in many ways

brittle willow
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@lyric shuttle mixers are a great starting point to get into some more organized play too, and more laid back. IDK if you've participated before, but mixer games are on Friday and Saturday evenings (NA time). But most PUG players are pretty welcoming especially if you're willing to learn.

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ok so I typed that up and by the time I finished, @icy goblet had said everything, but I just posted it anyways so whatever

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welcome to the server lol

lyric shuttle
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Ideal. Appreciate it!

jaunty jackal
next oasis
# lyric shuttle So what are pugs like for players who aren't very good but willing to learn? CTF...

To put it, its semi-competitive. Everyone wants to win and tries their hardest too (most of the time) I think for the most part, if your open to listening and learning you will have a really good time. Mixers are definatly more chillax however, (to my demise) they remove a lot of the arsenal the game offers like chain and hitscan which makes it a more "honorable" style of play where midairs and splash damage is they way you damage peopel

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Up to you how you want to play. Try both, see where you fit in

lyric shuttle
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@jaunty jackal for myself it means I haven't gotten a grasp of how to go very fast yet, so routing, capping or chasing are out of the question atm. When I have played ctf I did my best to med defend or hof.

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@next oasis is limited arsenal why for some of the classes I've made, the third weapon doesn't work?

next oasis
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Yeah we play in the Game of the Year edition which was like 2012 tribes

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2 weapons, and 9 classes

jaunty jackal
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And more limited weapon choices

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Not available in Roam Map

next oasis
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yeah it brings classes back

jaunty jackal
# lyric shuttle <@726235308722618399> for myself it means I haven't gotten a grasp of how to go ...

👍 makes sense. As said above, Dodge's Guide to PUGs(on his website) is a good starting point, but if you've watched any streamed PUGs that's useful too.

The TribesLauncherSharp has downloadable route files, if you want to try running routes you can follow those routes(they're shown in dots with self-impulse markers). That's a solid start.

And then, if you're good at communicating(simply by being good at talking), that's a really good start because learning what is worth communicating isn't too hard.

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Have you played any PUGs in the past?

lyric shuttle
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I played one in legions overdrive, did one BEML season on a team (not a pug but still competitive CTF exp.) & nothing competitive in Ascend.

fluid mountain
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I'd recommend adding if you want to try out the game, just try to dodge the negativity and people complaining about stacked games

viscid atlas
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People will say it's stacked even if we are 6-6 in overtime

jaunty jackal
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You could add right now

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And then we could PUG

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👍

jaunty jackal
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🤔 do we call everything relative to the map center?

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maybe we should

uneven fable
next oasis
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No shot

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xD

jaunty jackal
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ThinkGier how do you call Raindance routes?

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I'd argue that that Raindance is one of the only maps Dodge's style of route-calling is correct on

icy goblet
jaunty jackal
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hmm

icy goblet
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oh yeah, Raindance has a flat top. well whatever

jaunty jackal
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I'd call a Front slightly more left

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and say there is no back left

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because stand to stand

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front right is at the corner of front and right

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fair

icy goblet
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not sure what you mean by stand-to-stand !back-left

jaunty jackal
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I think back-left is just left, and front is the path from the common spawn to the flagstand

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that is, I'd say the front is the center of the average O crash route

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and I think that's how we should call fronts

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often, that is the same as the line between 2 stands

icy goblet
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Not happening if I HOF

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over the big hill is left

jaunty jackal
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ThinkGier Over the big hill is left, yes

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but along the inner outer corridoors, that's a front

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or a front left

viscid atlas
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It's always according to the cardinal directions of the stand and how they relate to the enemy's stand.

next oasis
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except

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blueshit

viscid atlas
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How is it there?

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I have never played an organized game there, but I am pretty sure I already know what front is

next oasis
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wait

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i meant bella

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not blue shift

icy goblet
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the majority of any enemy offense skiis across map, and they approach at the gentle slope that meets the flagstand. this is the front.

icy goblet
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I'm willing to change my view on this. I've done my research.

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And the main route with rock bounce that comes at the rear barrier effectively acts as a back-to-front as much or more as the one coming in from the rear turret hill.

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@fluid mountain @viscid atlas

fluid mountain
fluid mountain
jaunty jackal
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fair

icy goblet
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map in Q is Bella

fluid mountain
# icy goblet map in Q is Bella

The problem is more so that people struggle to agree which is back or side on those maps rather than if it's leaning towards X orientation.

icy goblet
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For Bella, I'm basing the large part of my opinion on a wiki page that said "The front of the base has an entrance and vehicle pad."

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It's easier that way since it's written somewhere already, even if it's disagreeable.

jaunty jackal
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front of the base, not front of the stand

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the stand is on top of the base

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despite the excessively tall tower ceiling, I think base and stand need a distinction on some maps

frank axle
viscid atlas
tulip onyx
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Yeah I think Moth hit the bottle making the BE ones

frank axle
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huh

celest stone
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This is some seriously cursed shit

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Thank god I only ever sniped for moth on DX, even she can't fuck those directions up

celest stone
grizzled beacon
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if someone tells me an arch route is a left im gonna stop hoffing

jaunty jackal
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I do that everygame xd

next oasis
jaunty jackal
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I fully agree on BE

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it's by the stand orientation

grizzled beacon
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routes should be called according to the hofs default orientation

jaunty jackal
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which direction do you look on default

grizzled beacon
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assuming perfect spotting, the angle im most likely to get approached from by offense

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which is towards the gen entrance on be therefore making the old calls optimal

jaunty jackal
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fair