New tank balance not balancing the right tanks....

[summer current]

The alpha changes on the ax, chisel, british mediums and French 120mm guns are definitely a good start, having a mix of 400 and 440 alpha is better than every tank having 440 alpha.

but where are the buffs for tanks that desperately need it? Obj 907, T 22, Obj 140, 121B, amx 30 B and the list goes on. Im honestly shocked the Fv4202 got hit with a alpha and overall dpm nerf when its already worse than the AX. These changes are a step in the right direction, but there needs to be some better balance.

Unironically the alpha nerfs on the Ax and fv4202, M60 and m48 make the Leopard even stronger and the british heavies being changed make the e5 stronger aswell.

[glass wolf]

yea the FV 42 having a worse reload than the AX is a head scratcher

[static sinew]

I think the Leopard 1 needs a nerf in reload over alpha. Personally, I wouldn't have an issue with the FV4202 keeping 420

Also this is just funny cause we're on the 5th buff of this tank

[indigo abyss]

No buffs to udez15/16 and nerfs to bmp-3 that wasn't the worst offender in cw.

[summer current]

No obj 268/4 buffs or any italian buffs either

[indigo abyss]

I know this patch sucks.

[summer current]

China bz 75/bz 72-1 could use some love aswell

[glass wolf]

BMP-3 is more a buff due to the damage increase and thus DPS.

[indigo abyss]

Very slow firing chain gun don't think it needed an overheat mechanic to begin with. And not even changes to the one TD they released last season that suffers massive in era 3.

Especially when no complaints were said about bmp-3s throughout this entire feedback section that it was over performing.

[glass wolf]

they added overheat based on damage and interclip and i guess 0.15 is the cut off for being added.

[frosty wind]

Chisel is kinda mid and I wish they would revert all of its stats.Back in the Mercenaries update.

[covert panther]

While I appreciate the reversion of the alpha buff on most of these vehicles, I am really confused why some of the DPM monsters are getting even more dpm, after many of them got a dpm increase with the arrival of the alpha buffs. It's unnecessary. So we have now 2 more 3000 dpm tanks and 5 tanks that were above 3000 dpm got even more dpm, as opposed to only 2 tanks above 3000 dpm losing some.

Why on Earth is the T95E6 being given 3150 dpm?!

[autumn python]

I would not call cutting the magazine from 200 to effectively 60 a buff but that's me

[autumn python]

Oddball of the group

It's fine

Stop using it to compare to other vehicles

[glass wolf]

the new auto cannons are closer to auto reloaders in how they perform. As for the performance in game, how often are you able to fire more than 60 shots in teh fast past nature of Era 3? i think many would prefer the DPS gains in doing damage in the short time they have to be able to even pen things.

[autumn python]

60 shots only takes nine seconds

That is very short time

There are a lot of instances when you'll be firing that or more

Circling an MBT

Shooting a stationary MBT in the side/back while distracted

Engaging another Light

Chasing down a pesky Wiesel

It's fine though

We'll let the Marder just continue to be blatantly better

85 shots in 5.1 seconds for 2125 damage vs the BMP-3's 60 shots in 9 seconds for 1500 damage

[indigo abyss]

Poor bmp....sigh

[frosty wind]

No buff to the STB-1 turret armor to be like pc

[glass wolf]

Same as PC? No. Like PC? Yes in update 9.5

[frosty wind]

The pc stb-1 has better armor

[glass wolf]

And?

[frosty wind]

I think you don't get my point do you?

[glass wolf]

PC is a different enough game with balancing that yea we can get ideas, but I wouldnt desire to just be a copy.
We have advantages that PC does such as better accuracy

[frosty wind]

I mean the stb-1 turret is not that op on pc the gun mallet can be penned i just want it to block 300 ap rounds on console

i have said it best in here https://discord.com/channels/630895439520202783/1502613672768438333

[frosty wind]

Nah, it needs a gun handling nerf and a buff to the HE penetration to 100mm so it can be like on PC.

[static sinew]

Debatable. Several tanks have better accuracy than their PC counterparts

[rugged jewel]

A weight buff for ramming lol

[rugged jewel]

And armour on console contributes to ramming too

[static sinew]

No

[rugged jewel]

Why not?

[viscid birch]

Rino needs a 4th shell and udes 8-10 need pen buffs among other things

[static sinew]

More weight = less hp/t

And being able to ram for 50 more damage doesn't make a tank that goes 30 base more fun

I'd rather they actually get meaningful buffs so that they are playable competitively, and not some noob ram slop