#Skills, Equipment & Consumables Update - Now Live!
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Its the SSD Mod
Thats almost funny....why is your game the only one i own that suffers from this out of the 200+ games I own🙄
Because all your games are either Xbox One games, designed around the HDD and have no ability to shorten the wait for SSD users, or actually do this and are less noticeable about it for various reasons. I know CoD absolutely has this in Warzone.
HDDs for gaming have been widely considered obsolete for over half a decade, arguably longer.
Im going to doubt that you are currently playing 200 other games to know what your experience is on them right now.
SSDs are faster to load than HDDs. This is a hardware fact. Its performance is not game related, its hardware.
So the hardware that the game was meant to run on it doesn't run on?🙃
Its like how a jet powered plane can fly faster that a prop propelled plane.
No, that is not what it means.
I understand read write speed. You don't understand why this is bad. What % of players is on "old gen"? Heat said it was a lot. Now when all those players try and play game they load in 15 secs to a whole minute late or they load in on time who knows. Its like you quietly quitting Xbox one while saying out loud we aren't dropping "old gen"
The game runs the same on it as its meant to. Your hardware is slower so its slower to load. Just as your GPU is worse and have 30 FPS with 1080p graphics where current Gen is 60 FPS with 4k graphics.
Casually side steps the point classic @agile forge
Most players are current Gen consoles.
There is no issue to sidestep. Your complaint is about your console being slower than current gen console. That's not a game issue.
Then what's the % of players on new and old gen consoles? Cause I've heard conflicting information if what you said is true
The game absolutely does run on a Hard Drive Disc, but due to the nature of the technology the read/write speeds are slower than a Solid State Drive.
A HDD is likely sitting at 30MB/S whereas a PS5 is running at 8000MB/S.
There is a technological deficit here that WG simply cannot overcome. The technology is simply outdated, like CD's and Floppy discs of yesteryear. They are just the latest casualty of progress
There is no need for me to share that information with you as it has no relevance to your console's performance.
The number of current and last gen are constantly in flux, as more people buy current gen and some last gen cease to work due to their age.
We can tell that current gen is more common these days because of how infrequently we have to wait for last gen. It was always based on how much of the game lobby is running on a SSD. It's just taken so long because there were so many PS4s sold
How informative of you🤨
He said "most players" yet didn't provide an average %. I understand read write speed and Moores law. Im saying if this is the case why pretend the game can run on Xbox one. Like i see players in lobby not loaded in just be sitting ducks.
We're not pretending. The game does run on a standard Xbox One from 2013.
It just takes longer to load in.
It feels you may be trolling at this point as its been answered and explained several times now. As none of this is related to the thread of skills, consumable, and equipment feedback, lets move on from this.
Dingus kinda lives up to his name.
You are the one that replied with a snide comment to a joke I made regarding a user who claims all us Xbox players are using mods and cheating. Now do you actually want to move on to stay on topic or want to move on cause I asked a relevant question and asked for data?
Im very ok with being disliked. I have very controversial opinions like "I want fair games"
Max's comment wasn't snide, it's a relatively common modification to retrofit a SSD onto a Last-Gen console. You will get the improved loading speeds without as big of a hit to the bank.
That being said, this conversation should cease. It's been answered, and the topic is regarding the recent changes
Yes the guy who called me a troll and doubted how many games I own totally didn't see his opportunity to make snide comment which he knew he could get away with under the guise of "common mod" then when asked about % of player base numbers and the legitimacy of his statement wanted to get back "on topic". I wonder how that belka player i seen a week ago felt with his greyed out icon and popped tank when he loaded in🤔 wonder if he thought the new skills, equipment, and consumables were fair?🙄
SSD is indeed faster performance
As I said several times im aware of this. Man its weird seeing you with a green name. Im sorry my man
Also check this out
The changes are objectively fair as they were applied to every tank.
Dw about it, I’m not ginger orange so that’s a W 😂
He is generating a force field. Quickly. Stop him
Somebody has the mods! 😆
Or forgot to use dryer sheets. 🤔
Day 30 of wanting my accuracy back and rng Jesus stealing my xp
If your winrate was high before they implemented the equitable matchmaking update then winning will be very difficult. I only win now if I carry the team and I am in the top three. If I don’t carry the team then we lose. The game is no longer fun.
My winrate went down from about 70 percent in the last 90 to 30 days to about 64 percent which is my over all win rate as well...i just loose more often and i really feel what you feel about carrying the team all the time. I will do a post about that on this server anytime soon
You've already been warned to keep things on topic, you are still posting more or less the same copy pasta in multiple unrelated threads. The MM change was a previous season and has a still active feedback thread, please stick to that or mods will have to take action 🙂
I dislike every change you have implemented over the past 2 months to skills, equipment, and consumables. You reduced skills available. Made skills weaker. Made equipment weaker. Forced people to spend their credits on a 4th equipment slot. Terrible update with no thought on customer feedback.
Due to the terrible changes I will continue not to purchase anything. I usually purchase multiple chests every week. I have purchased none sine the season started. What started as a one off has now become a habit. No more money going your way.
Bruh this guy trollin
Its the same spam every time he send a message. He also seems to really like the same set of emoji
No original thoughts of your own. You just insult people that have different point of views. This is why the game is going down hill. Instead of debating a person on specific points you insult or criticize the person. Weak. @mortal lark
Where were the surveys before all these changes occured asking the customer what they want? Or do they just make changes in a bubble only listening to discord, YouTube, and a couple streamers? If you don’t get feedback from all stakeholders before implementing change then you will fail. Business 101.
https://discord.com/channels/630895439520202783/1405997556168917065
https://discord.com/channels/630895439520202783/1395844685867651072
The articles were on the Website where all official game news is posted. It had the information and a link to where to put any feedback that players had on the subject which we took into consideration and made changes based on the feedback before rolling it out.
@agile forge @shrewd compass where is the cool down perk or equipment for the rotaries that overheat extremely easy that was part of the discussion on the roll out?
Thoses would be these items in the update notes: (Still under exploration)
https://modernarmor.worldoftanks.com/en/cms/news/update-notes-october-7/
Honestly, just wish every tank could roll back to the old days with the fire power and armor and people just learn to play and gain skill and no more buffs or nerfs, only nerf that has ever been needed is being able to cap a base to quick if you get a “slow” team that lemon trains one direction. Make it so they can’t cap in the first 5 minutes and if there is 5 tanks or less left the cap option goes away.
**yes I used the term “slow” in place of many other optional words as not offend anyone that is “slow”
I hate to break it to you but the issue with caps primarily isn't losing to them
I don’t know what world your living in but when a base can be capped in the first two minutes of a game, it is an issue. That’s all people want to do is run to a base right away and cap. By limiting that aspect and taking it away with 5 or less left will make the game play a thousand times better.
His complaint is winning by cap too much.
It’s the same either way, it needs to be changed
Have the reduced change fees already gone?
Yup
Wwell that's great. I've been away for about 10 days and I still have tanks and crews to do. The time frame was unbelievable short.
sad part is i think equipment costs have gone up more.
Day 34 of wanting my accuracy back and rng Jesus stealing my xp. Playing French tanks and big guns is just praying that rng let's me hit
It aint coming back get over it move on it was removed for a reason
Bring back accuracy skill that increases it when full stopped and aimed in.
Also add equipment that decreases changing from siege mode. Also fix the siege mode reticle.
I barely play much now but I still wiped all my crew skills and perks so I don't have to deal with the hassle of changing them and missing out on the deadline
Day 37 of rng Jesus stealing my xp
The size of these reticles is ridiculous
And @pastel pawn is right on the money fix siege mode

#skillissue
Its painful doing everything right and rng just telling you "no"🥴
These eastern tanks are riding the struggle bus in CW
yep
saying someone who got 3 marks on artys…
im not sayin dat
Wish independent tree got updated as well as eastern...
If type 90 line got siege mode fixed it'd be nice.
I finished merkava line and it was quite manageable 2b is 👌
Has something changed in the merkava line after the update?
I think the armor should be a bit better than it is, since deflection of missiles is very low. Which is why I don't run mine everything pens it.
Oh my god thats so true.
I've missed so many. Like im fine with all reloads being slower i guess but the rng accuracy is punishing and straight up not fun. Another thing is atgm's are better now cause of their perfect accuracy an unintentional buff
Anyone miss traction systems old speed increase, some of my lights and mediums really feel the difference
I haven't been having as much fun since this update came out. Trust me its there but it isn't frequent like last time. Might end up focusing cold war again for the naturally increased accuracy there. I don't like my shots being based on luck.
Day 41 of rng Jesus still my xp and forcing me to miss
Fair warning eastern tanks in CW have suffer in the update at range and on the move its exceptionally noticeable
Ok I don't know if this question has been answered yet.
But are there any plans to rebalance tanks after this change? Some tanks that already weren't the best have been made abysmal after these changes.
Yeah im hoping so. Everything feels very wonky. I would even go as far as to increase all tanks accuracy by 25%ish on the move and even somewhere near 50%ish increase with fully closed reticles. One of my big issues with the game since playing is the rng accuracy it could really benefit from a big shift like that in my eyes. I know thats a lot but it would make the game feel like less of a lottery and less of chore to play if that makes sense
Doubt it somthing would've been said already by now but I'm optimistic.
Mostly the "majority" wanted to go back to RNG aim...
It is way better like this. Yes ofc there are some moments where you fully aim and don't hit, so? I don't have an issue with all of that and it is way nicer that the gunhandling is on most tanks so bad again that you can't autoaim hin across 500 meters whilst being on top speed
I dont care about coldwar so that is non of my business, but in ww2 this is so much better, this game should not be a just full yolo, lemming train autoaim noob simulator, it should be a tactical arcade tanks game as it has been 5 years ago before 6.0 and coldwar.
If you don't want to aim and try to play the game as it is intended then it is your mistake and not the right game for you. Play wot heat maybe when it is out. WG did a big step in the right direction with this update and they just have to pull it through now an keep on improving what they did wrong for the last 5 years
I'll never understand why someone prefers rng aiming. Especially when youre at a dead stop for 5 seconds and rng denies you xp🤷♂️
Some of what you said makes no sense to me
"It is way better like this. Yes ofc there are some moments where you fully aim and don't hit, so? I don't have an issue with all of that and it is way nicer that the gunhandling is on most tanks so bad again that you can't autoaim hin across 500 meters whilst being on top speed
I dont care about coldwar so that is non of my business, but in ww2 this is so much better, this game should not be a just full yolo, lemming train autoaim noob simulator, it should be a tactical arcade tanks game as it has been 5 years ago before 6.0 and coldwar."
How can it be tactical with more rng aiming? To me the arcade style means a heath bar not more rng influence.
And how is missing when fully aimed ok? Youre a good player you know thats cost you games, kills, and xp overall.
WWll just seems extra silly to me right now. Like I get the accuracy on the move shouldn't be up to par with CW but once you get to top tier in WWll some of those are high lvl fully stabilized machines. My reticle shouldn't be approaching the edge of the screen
So, tanks like the s conq, chieftain mk6 and all that stuff still have an insane gun Handling, or for example leopard 1. There are indeed still many tanks that have a very good gunhandling on tier 10. Yes there are less then before buf this is in my opinion not an issue. Why should every tank have a very good accuracy and sniping capabilities? That really makes no sense. Tanks like 60 tp or tds like fv4005 where never meant to have accurate guns in that game. And this just means that you need to close the distance more for these tanks to be effective. That would lead to a more active gameplay for example heavies playing in the city, but player do not really do that most of the time cause they are not use to an active but tactical brawling playstyle in heavy lanes for example, they don't know nothing about angles, they know nothing about trading. Many people just camp more after the update which in some cases yes you should. But players just have to learn where to really go, where the best spots for there tank on the map are and how to really play the game. We just need a middle ground between camping all day or yolo trains. With stuff like this it is more possible because with some thank you can't snipe anymore. And you have to really aim and are not safe for missing some shots due to rng, this makes trading way more important
And i don't have an issue with rng as said. Yes there are time where it is frustrating. But there are many times as well where you get insanely lucky all game and just hit everything, and that is the beauty about this. It is not consistent, yes you have to aim longer, can snapshot that easy in most tanks and autoaim is less efficient, this just mean everybody need a bit more skill. And if you make if right, it is just so much better because you have variable results of what is gonna happen, you have to think more about what you wanna do, if you wanna push or not. The only issue atm is the playerbase and the MM just throwing the worst of the worst in my team and just lowering my chances to win for good. Carry every round if possible is just annoying. Rng not that much
Its just seems really dumb to have guns capable of shooting 1000m plus and having to be within 200m to be effective🤷♂️. Right now im not seeing a lot of active gameplay in WWII
Am, I mean that is coldwar which as I said I don't care about, ww2 guns are only capable of shooting up to 720 meters with seeing enemies only up to 550 I believe. So yeah, that is not really and issue in ww2. And as I said the update is not the issue players are. The update is a great start. Ofc many bugs and stuff but the overall intention is really good. Players are just not able to play for some reason. I guess most of them just don't know how to play and what wot has been like 5 years ago before all the fails. They are just not used to really take part in a match
WWII not having true vision is a whole other problem to me. What im saying is even with WWII guns that distance is crazy close.
I found average ranges to be anywhere between 300yds-800yds depending on location. I don't want hyper realism in game I just want believability. Not deal with a pool noodle for a barrel
A problem? Not having treu vision is so much better imo😂✌️ in am sorry but true vision is just so easy to play. When they tested it years ago in ww2 for a week I think it was just farming simulator 3000 for me😂
Well then that is your problem, this game is nothing close to realism and this update as I said is just very good for ww2, and players that have been around in the good old days before 6.0 know that, newer players just do not get it and do not understand all of it. Which is why the games goes downhill more and more.
I mean. Personally to me I just don't like my shots relying on luck.
Okay so I am just lucky hitting 80 percent of my shots on average no matter what?😅 I guess so
As a cw main i also like that accuracy has become more inconsistent less snapshots
"Yes ofc there are some moments where you fully aim and don't hit, so?" So you didn't say this?
Also gold spam does give you a lot of penned shots. 🤷♂️. You dont need the accuracy to hit weakspots when you can blow through turret face and upper front plates
Stabalized guns staring at us discussing this
"Am I a joke to you" 🤣
Oh yeah, the good old gold spam issue😂😂 why even care about it anymore? It is not sold for gold only anymore, ervybody can and should use it is the same with crew food and premium consumables. Just use them or not, if not don't complain. Everybody can use them so it is fair game
I care cause i want fair games.
Everybody can't though its a severe handicap to new players struggling to just afford new tanks. Its stagnating the growth of the game and discourages new players as soon as they grind to tier 8 they just get blown through
This whole update I can't consider healthy. It had good qualitys like proxy camo being deleted and better map border. But has created vast gaps in tank capability
It is fair. Because everyone can use it. Unfair would be if it was only available for gold. Anybody even new players can farm silver if they wanna use premium Ammo or consumables, it is always up to the player itself. Why would I have disadvantage now because plays don't wanna farm silver or are just at the beginning? I have very tier 10 grinded in ww2. Why would I now not have a small advantage in comparison to new players? Do you not think that playing that much should give you a bit of an advantage not only skill wise?
Your advantage is being in a 10.... having all the training wheels equipped and calling it fair is crazy
Especially if you play that way for thousands of games in a row
No, that's not the truth, first of all thank that have heat as gold Ammo can't be played full premium pretty much because of heat disadvantages. And for example in a leopard 1 using premium Ammo makes just the most sense to players that care for maximum performance and grind silver to use that. I dont see the issue with that
Not using it or farming silver to use it is just ur own fault and disadvantage which is not my problem or the problem of anybody else that farms silver or is good enough to maintain silver whilst using it
Realistically yeah cw tanks were stabilized but in this game they aren't
Wait are they suppose to “camp more [as] you should” or more active game play?
Day 49 of rng Jesus stealing my xp....
Day 54 of rng Jesus stealing my xp
While I agree with that sentiment. How is one supposed to get good when it comes to RNG? It's gambling. There is a blatant factor of pure luck involved in every shot. I can see why Dingus dislikes it.
Technically it is not suppose to be RNG but dispersion with the center more likely, but it sure does feel random. But that’s strategic right?
When I let the reticle fully close and and rng says "no". My skill is removed from the equation.... its fundamentally a flawed mechanic.
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Really dislike the HUD. Messes with my eyes way to much. Also NO WAY to change it for colorblind people.
Hello, you can turn it off in the options menu if you do not like it.
Does not work on the menu
You mentioned the HUD in your comment, which is a setting you can adjust in the options menu.
Look for "Enhanced outlines"
Does NOT help with hud OR menu. All that "enhanced" does is very very small on help. All that does is put a razor thin outline on tanks. Like at old eq did.
Any chance we are going to be able to see our marks of excellence progress besides going to profile tab now, can't do it after match.
You can view it after the match, the same as before.
Doesn't say the % I'm at
Sounds like you aren't playing Multiplayer then. MoE is Multiplayer only so you'll only see it when playing valid matches.
I am playing multiplayer.
Then its in the same spot as before. Click on your name and its the last item on the details.
I scrolled over the marks and it doesn't say my current % is what I'm saying.
MoE progress is displayed here
Prob should be an article I'm used to looking at the medal to see my %
Thats where it was displayed previously to today also.
Ty for showing me where it is.
If its not on the Medal details, we can write a ticket for that.
It should be displayed there also.
I wonder if that can be a small stat on your vehicle visible when you view it in the garage. Maybe it can be just above the commander or something.
Yha previously I've always looked at my marks of excellence medal to see my progress.
But since it's still in there I'm happy that I can see it ty @agile forge
This absolutely messed up camo circle on minimap. It is now bigger than my view range.
Think that was a goal. What type of tanks were you driving?
I dont think you understand my dude. Rng literally steals damage and xp from you at higher rate now. Yes I can hit shots still and put mastery games but its frustrating when I make no mistakes and get told "no" by rng
I swear the circles are messed up. My still concealment and view range im told in menu does not match in match displayed circles(yes I know there is adjusting/equalizing of those stats in a match) but ive tested it in coop as the solo player in a game and its definitely not right
#game-discussion message
It is not right. They use the most possible viewrange an enemy could Potential have and use that value against your Camouflage. That means that the value use against you will most of the time be higher by about 10 to 50 meters then anybody actually got in the lobby cause there is only a slim Chance that a player is using binos, vents, rations plus has them activated + has a full perked crew with view range + has the higher base viewrange out of the lobby. I can't imagine anybody using that setup on a 420 meters viewrange tank. And even not using crew food will make a hugh difference for these values, because of so many players for whatever reason using fire extinguisher not crew food this gap will be there like I guess 95 percent of the time
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I think what dingus is trying to say is. "Its not fun having RNG just whiff your shot entirely because...why not?"
I personally agree with his sentiment. Your shot should land where you placed it.
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I also think how the dmg system in this game works sucks
Tell me. Why does an ATGM that hits my rear fender, and should do. AT MOST. Cosmetic damage. Rip 1300 away from my tank? Cupolas shouldn't just be a magic weak point. I guess in a way it like the realism of warthunder over the HP system here. At least with how it works currently.
You should hit for more depending where your shell lands. Bad take I know but its how I thought it could work
Bruh when reticle is larger than a whole tank just a few hundred meters away its a problem. Im not saying im the best ever pull your head from your own rear my dude
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Its like you can't read 🤦♂️
I think he's just trolling ya at this point man. Just move on
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Do you only shoot people point blank? Have you never seen a vanguard? Im so confused how you dont understand this. Are you troling?
What happened to the match end screen it's terrible now?
That has no relation to this thread.
It wasn't like this when i played last week so i don't see anywhere else to ask
Day 64 of rng Jesus stealing my xp 😮💨
Only 64?
Where is that listed as a season feature
If you read the update notes, you'll see.
https://modernarmor.worldoftanks.com/en/cms/news/update-notes-december-2/
I don’t mind many of these changes, I just feel other changes are now needed because of it. Many tanks need accuracy buffs do be competitive again. Tanks like the Udes 15/16 have horrible accuracy, changed after 6.0, and should be changed back to pre 6.0.
As for light tanks and tanks that generally rely on camo mechanics to be competitive, I just think there should be more bushes on maps. Something more in line with PC. This way they can play their role, but not to the point where lights can drive out in the open and not get spotted as we had before.
I hope I’m making sense on what I’m suggesting.
This
I just want to thank WG for the 2025 year look back.
It's so nice to remember all the tanks I can't really play anymore because you screwed the playerbase on equipment, not just from playability but from a silver standpoint. At least you could have dropped some equipment vouchers or an op for equipment vouchers. Or done some sales. It's been 4 months and 75 percent of my tanks are still not fully equipped. Pulled everything off the low tiers even. Pulled the consumables as well to save on those per battle.
I enjoyed the variety of tanks I use to be able to switch around in and play. Can't do that so much, so I play less as the year in review shows.
How are we supposed to look through all these posts ? Over thousand !!!! Get real WG. PUT THE FORUM BACK ON YOUR WEBSITE
How would a forum post with 1000 comments be any different?
Yes 😎 because its a Forum interface.
Wait till they find out about the searchbar
The main difference i can see is you can scroll all 1000 here, rather than having pages. But the search ability (as pigeon mentions) is much faster to use on discord i find.
And i don't say this as a anti-forum way, i use to use the forums a lot. My now head of department and several colleagues knew me when i joined because of our interactions on the forums. I just don't see what the difference in this specific aspect is that causes a "one is better than the other" to it 😅
Lol. I definitely prefer a Forum layout and style. The best layout in Discord is a Forum one 😎. In any event we all know the Forums aren't coming back and the reasons why. Thanks for responding to this post/topic, much appreciated.
Because u can scrol right to the bottom in a second. And it had proper search and filter and view option tools. Like windows pc's
i can agree
i had like 90m credits like 3-4 months ago and simply going into my garage and equipping tanks i commonly play and acquiring some has got me down to 60m
